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Good morning, Jason!
and sending a big ROFL to Jack!
Posted by: Patsi
| July 16, 2008 6:08 AM
Hi everyone! Rise and shine! It's going to be a beautiful day. We're going to Kings Dominion later on to ride the coasters.
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| July 16, 2008 6:11 AM
The latest JIBJAB video...hilarious!!
http://sendables.jibjab.com/
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| July 16, 2008 6:23 AM
Hi LushisL ! I was just about to send that JobJab when my IP conked out. Great minds!
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| July 16, 2008 6:34 AM
Hi all---Just heard on Morning Joe a great discussion on why there is supposedly nothing funny about Obama according to the Daily Show writers --Did anyone else listen?
Posted by: jane | July 16, 2008 6:50 AM
How many Obamabots does it take to change a lightbulb?
That's NOT FUNNY!
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| July 16, 2008 7:00 AM
Craig, here's hoping you don't see this message until your return next Thursday. For the entire period of your absence, I take the 'Good Behavior' pledge.
Posted by: Flatus
| July 16, 2008 7:18 AM
"I take the 'Good Behavior' pledge."
Teachers pet, teachers pet
niener, niener niener
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 7:25 AM
Food fight!!!!!!
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 7:28 AM
Enjoy tour vacation, remember the TERRORISTS NEVER TAKE ONE. BTW if you are flying remember to take your shoes off.
VJ Machiavelli
http:/http://www.vjmachiavelli.blogspot.com
ps Obama = Neville Chamberlain = Appeasement = Terrorists wins , we DIE
Posted by: VJ Machiavelli
| July 16, 2008 7:31 AM
And, what would Judge Judy say? "Liar, liar, pants on fire!" :)
Posted by: Flatus
| July 16, 2008 7:33 AM
http://voanews.com/english/2008-07-16-voa6.cfm
funny how it's OK when the right changes its mind and decides to do this, while when Obama suggested something similar, he was accused of everything from high treason to puttin' on airs.
Posted by: Mary Kitt-Neel
| July 16, 2008 7:46 AM
"...when Obama suggested something similar, he was accused of everything from high treason to puttin' on airs"
Show me where this was said.
In fact, the "right" has consistently said the proper diplomacy was back-channel communications, proxy advocates, talks in third countries (what this appears to be), all culminating with talks at the secretarial level, and, ultimately, talks between the national leaders.
I think your comment was pejorative to the extreme, besides being in bad taste.
Posted by: Flatus
| July 16, 2008 7:54 AM
what?!!....
Craig leaves without telling us where he's going....... guess in a way I don't blame him.....
good morning gang....
and with all of us asking Nick to come back last night...... I'd like to say.....
CHLOE COME BACK.... you think Hillary would let some little mouse run her off of a blog..... com'on girl..... get your butt back here....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| July 16, 2008 7:56 AM
crap..... forgot to say....
Lushis...... thanks for the jibjab..... those guys are great!
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| July 16, 2008 7:56 AM
Mary
Sending an American presence to a meeting in Geneva Run by the EU is not on the same level as the president of the US going to Iran and meeting with government leaders there.
It is a good sign that the adults are in charge of our Iranian policy, not the cheney faction.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 7:57 AM
Patsi
Just catching up,from last thread "Manson chicks" so funny!!! I don't qualify for a lady in waiting but I bow at your alter........Ha!!
Posted by: tonyb39
| July 16, 2008 7:58 AM
Has MoJo even seen The Daily Show. They do have some conservative guests; Stewart has to tell the audience not to boo when you invite someone to your house. And, they have done a few BO jokes, but the reaction of the studio audience is not strong; a bit of a delayed reaction, confusion as to why someone is picking on their golden child.
Clearly, they didn’t have problems making fun of Hil’ry, Kerrey & other Dems. Nope, just BO. Maybe he doesn’t have a sense of humor & he’s not a funny subject…you know who else that describes? AQ. (And….go.)
(Good name for a BO docu-drama: On Golden Child…he’s a knight in shining armour & don’t you forget it.)
ps – The All-Stars should’ve all taken off their caps. Don’t just touch the bill or point to your head, fellas, take off the cap… it doesn’t take that much energy.
Posted by: blueINdallas | July 16, 2008 8:02 AM
Renee
Yes.I gave a shout out to Chloe a few days ago in a post.Chloe if your out there lurking I miss your thoughts and feelings about politics and your care for others.CHLOE come back soon........Think about it..
Posted by: tonyb39
| July 16, 2008 8:06 AM
Morning All,
Obama said today that the Newsweek cover is an affront
to Muslims. I think it would be best if Obama just let the
whole Cover-gate die away. Aren't there more important
issues?
Posted by: prof marcia
| July 16, 2008 8:07 AM
P.M.,
I've suspended my subscription to Newsweek because their editorial policy was so in-the-tank for Mr Obama at the expense of Mrs Clinton, whom they held-up to ridicule.
If you're talking about the cover, with his photograph, appearing on Newsweek.com, why is it offensive?
Posted by: Flatus
| July 16, 2008 8:13 AM
Typo:
I meant New Yorker cover. Sorry.
Posted by: prof marcia
| July 16, 2008 8:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRbeUnn-AUA&feature=related
Posted by: sturgeone | July 16, 2008 8:16 AM
Thanks, P.M., I should have put two and two together.
I suppose the next step is that Mr Obama encourage a fetwah condemning the New Yorker editorial board.
Salmon Rushdie, slide over.
Posted by: Flatus
| July 16, 2008 8:20 AM
Flatus,
My mom and I both stopped our subscription to Newsweek, too, for
the same reason as you.
I, know, Flatus, it just seems that Obama should be beyond all this outrage over
a stupid magazine cover if he is indeed such a "transformational" candidate.
Posted by: prof marcia
| July 16, 2008 8:30 AM
Flatus,
My mom and I both stopped our subscription to Newsweek, too, for
the same reason as you.
I, know, Flatus, it just seems that Obama should be beyond all this outrage over
a stupid magazine cover if he is indeed such a "transformational" candidate.
Posted by: prof marcia
| July 16, 2008 8:30 AM
" bow at your alter"
Ha! Tony -- I suppose I should be honored to be considered queen of anything, even the witches! I have, however, sat on the same stage as the REAL queen witch -- Phyllis Schaffley. Now that's freaky....
Posted by: Patsi
| July 16, 2008 8:40 AM
Unfinished business department:
Note to dog's eye view:
I noticed you were talking about me while I was away yesterday:
"Craig's blog is party central for genteel Hillary deadenders. . .
just read ProfMarcia greetings any morning. . ."
Thanks for the PR and for highlighting my early A.M commentary. It must
mean you care. Although, I have a feeling by the decidedly snarky undertone
of your post that wasn't your intention (to show me you care).
Posted by: prof marcia
| July 16, 2008 8:41 AM
Oops. One of my comments posted twice. I swear I only sent it once.
Posted by: prof marcia
| July 16, 2008 8:42 AM
comedy for the morning
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN1535315320080716
start joking
Posted by: amiss | July 16, 2008 8:45 AM
Patsi! My God girl, run home and take another shower for even talking about such an experience!!
Posted by: Flatus
| July 16, 2008 8:45 AM
Yes, Marcia -- for a transormational candidate, there sure has been a lot of outrage and divisivness. But we've already seen what one "leader" meant when he called himself a "uniter not a divider."
Posted by: Patsi
| July 16, 2008 8:45 AM
Morning gang! Some exciting news today!
Sturge is finally in da house at Lardo's Retreat with his long-awaited, G-rated sex story:
http://lardosretreat.wordpress.com/
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| July 16, 2008 8:47 AM
Patsi,
Good point!
I was just wondering if anyone is reading the daily serial in the Washington
Post about who killed Chandra Levy. I always love a mystery. The series
is bringing out a lot of, up to now, unknown facts about the case like all the
mistakes the police made.
Does anyone have any ideas about who did kill her? I'm just curious.
Posted by: prof marcia
| July 16, 2008 8:50 AM
G-rated sex story?
very weird people
Posted by: amiss | July 16, 2008 8:59 AM
"This is not a shrink's office that deals with negativity."
Posted by: tiptoe Author Profile Page | July 15, 2008 11:26 PM
What would you call it then?
Posted by: shrink's office | July 16, 2008 9:02 AM
amiss
It is a sad reality of life. Most sexual adventures end up G rated.
Sturge
Good story
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 9:03 AM
I think the campaign is over in California
Obama has a 24 point lead.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/15/MN2T11PHGD.DTL&tsp=1
Another interesting poll point -the Washington Post poll which showes Obama 8 points ahead even with people thinking McCain has an edge as commander in chief.
Until and unless McCain completely rejects the Shrubs
I think his numbers will continue to drop.....like all of Shrub's numbers.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| July 16, 2008 9:03 AM
Obama Releases List of Approved Jokes About Himself
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/obama-releases-list-of-ap_b_112837.html
Posted by: prof marcia
| July 16, 2008 9:05 AM
The REAL Queen -- of everything:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-pCxUmwh3s&feature=related
PS -- the old broad...not the skinny one who comes out and tries to keep up.....:)
Posted by: Patsi
| July 16, 2008 9:06 AM
SO,
"What would you call it then?"
A rough neck bar where , thankfully, we can't reach each other with our fists.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 9:07 AM
"Americans are sharply divided by race"
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/16/us/politics/16poll.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Are PUMAs closet racists?
Posted by: amiss | July 16, 2008 9:08 AM
Prof Marcia -- I have the pages of the Chandra Levey story saved to read for when I have a some time to concentrate. Sari Horwitz is a great investigative reporter who cut her teeth working the police blotter at the Washington Post. Sari has won not just one, but two Pulitzers for her work on DC's horrible foster care system and the DC "Sniper."
Right now I have a houseful of kids -- seven plus my own two -- most of whom are taller than I am -- who have huge appetites and full activity schedules with summer schools, swim teams, karate lessons, band camp, and scouts interspersed with sight-seeing and amusement park trips. These days, if I'm not in the kitchen, I'm either in the car, poolside, or riding a roller coaster. Secretly, I love it all, but I do feel like I go brain dead for 8 weeks of summer.
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| July 16, 2008 9:09 AM
"A rough neck bar "
no wonder drunks hang out here.
Posted by: amiss | July 16, 2008 9:13 AM
"Until and unless McCain completely rejects the Shrubs
I think his numbers will continue to drop.....like all of Shrub's numbers"
I think you are right, he needs to tell the Republicans if they want any hope of shaping policy in the next 12 years they need to shut up and quietly support him. Then ignore the publicity seeking wingnuts. He has major differences with the Bushies. He should be hammering on them everyday. As it is now I'm begining to wonder if he really wants the job
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 9:13 AM
"G-rated sex story? "
Of course, they are so much funnier than X rated....with X you always know how it's gonna end.
Lard -- the sturge story is great!
Posted by: Patsi
| July 16, 2008 9:16 AM
"A rough neck bar "
"no wonder drunks hang out here"
that is why you are here.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 9:16 AM
Alicia,
Bravo to you for being such a great summer mom. I doubt I could do it.
Thanks for the info about Sari Horwitz. The writing and research that
went into this murder mystery series is phenomenal. I can't stop reading it.
I hope some night when the children are in bed you can curl up and read
some of the Levy story.
Posted by: prof marcia
| July 16, 2008 9:17 AM
Patsi
We pretty much know how the G rated ones are going to end too. It is the twists and turns of the plot that are interesting
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 9:18 AM
Wise Jack, very wise
Obama doesn't really want the job.
Posted by: amiss | July 16, 2008 9:19 AM
http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/16/markets/stockswatch/index.htm?eref=rss_topstories
heads up!
Posted by: amiss | July 16, 2008 9:22 AM
"no wonder drunks hang out here."
Nobody's drunk yet, pal.
And regarding your other comment...if you believe all who don't vote for Obama are racists, then you are the one who is racist. Because you do not see him as a candidate, but simply a black candidate.
Posted by: Patsi
| July 16, 2008 9:22 AM
"Wise Jack, very wise"
Thankyou, Most people tend to put an a s s on the end of the wise but you are most polite. ;-0
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 9:22 AM
Katherine,
I continue to see polls shifting every week. According to some sources,
considering the margin of error, Obama and McCain are almost
tied. But, I admit I'm no expert in the area of data gathering. It just
seems that it's a tight race.
Considering it's the Democrats election to lose, I would have thought all polls would show Obama ahead by double digits. But, that hasn't been the case.
Posted by: prof marcia
| July 16, 2008 9:23 AM
Patsi person read the article
when do the drunks arrive?
Posted by: amiss | July 16, 2008 9:26 AM
Knowing how the Republicans operate, I have to believe they have something on McCain...actually, they probably have something on a lot of folks, Democrats as well. Photos -- politicians -- farm animals....
Posted by: Patsi
| July 16, 2008 9:26 AM
amiss
Some interesting stuff in that link.
"Delta Air Lines, Inc. (DAL, Fortune 500) beat estimates and overcame high fuel costs to earn 35 cents per share, nearly triple the 10 cents expected by analysts polled by Thomson"
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 9:26 AM
BTW, I think my wife maybe single handedly responsible for the airlines profit.
God, she and her team travel a lot.
lol
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 9:30 AM
amiss -- don't know what article you are talking about...
Posted by: Patsi
| July 16, 2008 9:30 AM
"Are PUMAs closet racists?"
PUMA does not equal "all "
tipping the gin early?
Posted by: amiss | July 16, 2008 9:30 AM
From Amiss' link
"Poll Finds Obama’s Run Isn’t Closing Divide on Race"
No sh*t Sherlock!
And I don't think Obama wanted it to close during the primaries. He needed all of those black votes to win.
Can we say South Carolina boys and girls?
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 9:35 AM
BTW
That is all I'm going to say about past history, because we all know there is a major disconnect for the Obama' folk and their candidates true tactics.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 9:38 AM
correction:
"For many of the Obama folk"
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 9:40 AM
Candidates Clash On Impact Of Offshore Drilling
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92570077&ft=1&f=1001
Posted by: amiss | July 16, 2008 9:40 AM
when do the drunks arrive?
Posted by: amiss
you're here
Posted by: R A Absurdum | July 16, 2008 9:48 AM
Marcia,
I Agree, by all measures it should be an election the democrats can not lose, but Obama has not yet been able to shake McCain.
Trying to read anything into the polls is like reading that fortuneteller's crystal ball, here's differing perspective of the same poll (CBS/NYT)
CBS News reports "Obama Leads, but race fluid"
Obama 45%; McCain 39%--6 point spread unchagned since June, but more than 1 - 10 now say they are undecided (twice as many as last month)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/15/opinion/polls/main4263422.shtml
While the NYT uses the same poll & accents its findings:
"Poll finds Obama candidacy isn't closing Divide on Race"
Americans are sharply divided by race....with blacks & whites holding vastly different views of Obama
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/16/us/politics/16poll.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Posted by: Coreen
| July 16, 2008 9:48 AM
Patsi
From the Democratic vote on fisa, I would say somebody has a lot of pictures.
Remember it is the KGB who control Russia. Spys are dangerous in a decadent society.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 9:51 AM
Aren't there more important issues?
Posted by: prof marcia
Prof Marcia, there are no more important issues. Do you know anything about politics? or just how to make ignorant comments?
Posted by: bitterbimbo | July 16, 2008 9:51 AM
bitterbimbo
nice to see selfawareness, if you add stupid it would be perfect
Posted by: R A Absurdum | July 16, 2008 9:57 AM
My God..
I am laughing here all the way
I like the comments...feels like I am on holidays..
keep on going gang. Am enjoying this
P.S.: KGC don´t talk too ssoon about Cal. Remember HRC was the inevitable and JmC was dead allready and rose form the grave exactly one year ago.....
Posted by: Jason | July 16, 2008 9:57 AM
“Obama said today that the Newsweek cover is an affront to Muslims. I think it would be best if Obama just let the whole Cover-gate die away. Aren't there more important issues?”
Unless there is something else out there, Obama was merely answering a question from Larry King last night, so it is not like he is putting it out there again and again. King asked him what he thought about it. Obama shrugged first, as if to say what to do about it, and then decided to answer.
Posted by: Karolenna | July 16, 2008 9:57 AM
Patsi.... YES!..... Aretha!..... Aretha!
Lardass..... you must be taking a summer break..... if you are.... enjoy!
I see someone from the back channel has shown up to cause upset.....
ROTFLMAO!
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| July 16, 2008 9:57 AM
The TheirBarackObama Begging Site
"How fitting that the Obama Campaign is on its way to regretting the decision made by their Arrogant Selected Ass to forgo public financing.
First, they didn’t meet their lofty goals for June. Surprise!
Do you think they have guessed why? Could it be that all those “downscale” Clinton supporters did more for the DNC and its candidates than they care to admit?
... if I were you DNC Stalinists, I would really start to worry that the DNC/RNC comparison chart below is a reflection of what November 4th’s voting tally will look like. You can bet that millions of us will do all we can to make your nightmare your reality."
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/16/the-theirbarackobama-begging-section/
Posted by: GORDO | July 16, 2008 9:58 AM
Jason/Prof Marcia
True things could change but a 24% lead in Cal will e tough to overcome.
My point about the Post Poll, is even with the credit to McCain on national security issues, Obama still has an 8% lead.
McCain's problem is Bush. As long as bad news is the center piece of the news, McCain cannot win unless he denounces Shrub.....and apparently not going to happen. I do not understand his loyality to Shrub at all
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| July 16, 2008 10:01 AM
Good morning peeps,
Today's thread on the BackChannel Blog
Reform * Prosperity * Peace, by Korelenna
http://clistersbackchannel.wordpress.com/
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| July 16, 2008 10:01 AM
Here are the internals on the NY Times Poll. One thing to consider: The Times offers a "neutral" choice as well as a favorable/unfavorable. The story did not report this third option which slanted the story.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20080716_POLL.pdf
Posted by: Jamie
| July 16, 2008 10:02 AM
The REAL Queen -- of everything:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-pCxUmwh3s&feature=related
PS -- the old broad...not the skinny one who comes out and tries to keep up.....:)
Posted by: Patsi | July 16, 2008 9:06 AM
Sorry Patsi,
Aretha is quite good. Have to say that......
But there is only ONE true queen....
The one who said. Thanks, but no thanks to be in Denver in August :))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfUjfioAnKY
Posted by: Jason | July 16, 2008 10:02 AM
Rene
The fun is their trolling is so pathetic. Talk about can't move on. lol
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 10:03 AM
I must say , that pic of John Wayne includes my Dad's favorite quote from John Wayne! LOL!
Posted by: Corey
| July 16, 2008 10:03 AM
How many Obamabots does it take to change a lightbulb?
Posted by: stupidbitterbimbo | July 16, 2008 10:05 AM
I might have a story, Lard. Now that I think about it.
Posted by: Corey
| July 16, 2008 10:06 AM
do not understand his loyality to Shrub at all
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | July 16, 2008 10:01 AM
I do!
It is something that DNC doesn´t have. Respect for a president....Ecen if it is not in your best interest.
They show prespect for their presidents...All the time. Not only when it is convenient.....
Reason no 2.452.862 why the GOP still is a force to reckoned with... (Can´t believe at 30 years old I would say this as a democrat)
Posted by: Jason | July 16, 2008 10:06 AM
"King asked him what he thought about it. Obama shrugged first, as if to say what to do about it, and then decided to answer."
Karo -- I think that's where a lot of politicians get in trouble. They give an answer -- like when O said it was simply a magazine cover. Then the "interviewer" either just sits there until the politician feels like he/she has to say more, or keeps hammering for more info...and the followup becomes the story.
Posted by: Patsi
| July 16, 2008 10:07 AM
How many Obamabots does it take to change a lightbulb?
Posted by: stupidbitterbimbo | July 16, 2008 10:05 AM
NONE!
Cause you first have to explain what a light bulb is, and translate that piece of informaton into a change rhetoric theory.....Then wholeheartedly tell them that: YES THEY CAN.
Posted by: Jason | July 16, 2008 10:09 AM
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrat Barack Obama has a 7-point lead on Republican John McCain in the U.S. presidential race, and holds a small edge on the crucial question of who would best manage the economy, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday.
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1535315320080716
And McCain is only holding a 5 point lead in NC!
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=ca6e1d32-419f-4b81-abcd-955578237b7d
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| July 16, 2008 10:09 AM
Jason
I understand your point. But look what Shrub (and his minions) did to McCain in 2000. Plus McCain really went to the wall for Shrub in 2004. I think it would show more respect for the office of the president if the Republicans would send Shrub to the woodshed.
He is the worst president ever.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| July 16, 2008 10:09 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/16/world/middleeast/16israel.html?hp
Prisoner Deal Reopens an Israeli Wound
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| July 16, 2008 10:12 AM
bitter bimbo,
Your name says it all.
Posted by: prof marcia
| July 16, 2008 10:13 AM
Alfred E. Obama is Not Funny!!
"Mr. Obama is very easily offended, like Don Quixote, the Man of La Mancha, who is constantly looking for the smallest slights to his egg-shell fragile ego.
The Obama campaign just loves those Nuremberg-style rock rallies. They're in control. They love thousands of worshipful Obama groupies. They're in control. But they just hate one-on-one Townhall debates because they're not in control. That's why Obama is now going to Europe, where his rockstar brand still has the suckers screaming for joy. There are no tough questions for Obama in Europe. He loves that worship, he needs it, he thrives on it."
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/07/alfred_e_obama_is_not_funny.html
Posted by: GORDO | July 16, 2008 10:14 AM
Jason
A good point about respect for the President.
The problem for McCain is Bush just can't go over into a corner and shut up. So every time McCain gets a good talking point against the Democrats Bush has to open his mouth and poisons the well. A good example is the off shore drilling, which polls favorably with Americans, McCain had a winner until Bush jumped in and now it is a Bush proposal. Any linkage to Bush is the kiss of death for McCain.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 10:14 AM
"A good example is the off shore drilling, which polls favorably with Americans, McCain had a winner until Bush jumped in and now it is a Bush proposal. "
I agree Jack. I was stunned. Damn W....Is he trying to make up for lost ground?
Come on W., you know if ya shut up and let the man be, he can actually rehabilitate you if he is able to pull of the major upset against BO
Posted by: Jason | July 16, 2008 10:19 AM
I've played with you people too long this morning.
Got work to do,
for everybody engaged in the food fight , be sure to clean up after your selves.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 10:19 AM
Gordo,
Go offline for awhile. Read the first book of Don Quixote: there are a number of good, recent English translations: the best by reputation is by an American woman whose name I don't recall this morning.
The original Quixote character in book one is quite different from the canard your source described.
The second book was written supposedly to please Queen Elizabeth I who also is credited with requesting Shakespeare revive Falstaff in a new play. There wasn't much worth adding to the original novel: Cervantes saw he a chance to have better control over his title and make a bigger fortune.
He also made a mockery of his own DQ character.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| July 16, 2008 10:20 AM
“Karo -- I think that's where a lot of politicians get in trouble. They give an answer -- like when O said it was simply a magazine cover. Then the "interviewer" either just sits there until the politician feels like he/she has to say more, or keeps hammering for more info...and the followup becomes the story.“
I agree with Obama that there are good Muslims in this country. I’ve met them. There is a big population of Middle Easterns in the Central Ohio area, so you come into contact with them regularly. I actually entered a shopping mall that is specifically for Middle Eastern foods. I can say that almost everyone I saw in that mall smiled, nodded, or said hi to me. They know that they have been cast out as all being terrorists so maybe they feel they must go out of their way to be friendly.
So I can see why Obama went into more detail with his answer.
Posted by: Karolenna | July 16, 2008 10:20 AM
Coreen,
Thanks for the link to the black white divide. It's an important issue and
one Democrats can't afford to ignore.
Oh! I wanted to add my name to the Doris Day fan club. I still love watching
her old movies. I have them all.
Two of my favorites "That Touch of Mink," and "Move Over, Darling." I liked
her in the Hitchcock film with Jimmy Stewart, too, "The Man Who Knew
Too Much.
The fact she saves animals adds to why I respect and admire her so much .
Posted by: prof marcia
| July 16, 2008 10:22 AM
KGC....
I agree.....as far as the presidency..... it would be great to see the Republicans show respect for the office and not just the person occupying the position.....
I mentioned this a couple weeks ago...... I'd also love to see more people vote out long standing members of Congress and the Senate..... on both sides of the aisle....
if the American people really want change..... they should realize that cleaning out the power structure in DC is good start.....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| July 16, 2008 10:22 AM
I love this. Obama is ahead of McCain in Arizona 51 to 38.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dawn-teo/mccain-home-state-support_b_112072.html
Posted by: Karolenna | July 16, 2008 10:23 AM
Good morning, I'm here early, for once.
How many Obamabots does it take to change a lightbulb?
Answer: We are the change we've been waiting for.
Posted by: jeejee
| July 16, 2008 10:23 AM
Jason
Is there anything out there that GWB hasn't srewed up.
Face it, he has a native born talent for screwups, almost on the genius level.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 10:24 AM
"bitter bimbo,
Your name says it all. "
just trying to bond sister
Posted by: stupidbitterbimbo | July 16, 2008 10:28 AM
911
There you go again, assigning home work.
What? read a book? That is soooo twentyth century.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 10:30 AM
RR
With Congress at 9% -- there is a good chance of a big change. It will be interesting to see what happens to the Steny Hoyer types. I think even if they survive this fall, in two years people are going to go after them.
I have been following various pieces of food safety legislation and the progress is terrible. Industries targeted in the recent salmonella outbreaks would have been better served if the FDA had even completed their own plan, let along passed some of the more progressive pending legislation.
Not too much sympathy for the tomato industry though as they opposed any tracing legislation. Pennywise----pound foolish.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| July 16, 2008 10:31 AM
Hey peeps,
Am out also.... The sun is finally shining mighty good here in Amsterdam, so the boys are going out for a cold beer. I will drink wine, can´t stand beer
behave....
Patsi, you have not reacted to my diva link..
Stay good
hasta manana!!!!
Posted by: Jason | July 16, 2008 10:32 AM
Fun story STurgeone.
Now if everyone will send Lardo their stories too long to post here please...
Posted by: Jamie
| July 16, 2008 10:33 AM
You know some of his other sock puppets were much more interesting. Must be the good drugs. They do tend to dull the wit.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 10:33 AM
“How many Obamabots does it take to change a lightbulb?”
Actually, we don’t change light bulbs all that often. You see we are energy conscious and use those LED’s and lifetime bulbs.
Posted by: Karolenna | July 16, 2008 10:33 AM
"I love this. Obama is ahead of McCain in Arizona 51 to 38."
I hope that McCain can make it to the GE.
Does anyone know when either might pick their VPs??
I would like to see it happen soon, this summer seems to be flying by.
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| July 16, 2008 10:34 AM
lol Karo
so true, that's what I gave as Christmas presents last year!
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| July 16, 2008 10:35 AM
Sweetheart,
Sorry. I'm not your sister. Look elsewhere for bonding.
Posted by: prof marcia
| July 16, 2008 10:36 AM
About that lighbulb.
It is time that Americans come to the realization that they cannot just turn on a lightbulb any time they want. We use more lightbulbs in Times Square (or maybe Las Vegas) than the rest of the world put together. It is time to put the lightbulb behind us and live in the dark. If it was good enough for the 13th century, it is good enough for the new America.
Posted by: Bowmanc
| July 16, 2008 10:36 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/07/open-thread-week.html#comment-116021
Sounds like a Barack Obama approved joke to me. Someone should send it to that Andy Borowitz guy.
Posted by: jeejee
| July 16, 2008 10:37 AM
true Bowmanc - open the curtains let the sun shine in!
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| July 16, 2008 10:41 AM
we are all sisters, we are all family
Posted by: bitterbimbo | July 16, 2008 10:44 AM
I heard that all jokes or presumed satire by any media must be run past the Obama Joke Committee a recently formed adjunct group run out of Camp Obama's Chicago office.
Posted by: prof marcia
| July 16, 2008 10:46 AM
One last thought
when resorting to sarcasm don't forget the ~~~~~~~
I think several of you forgot ;-0
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 10:48 AM
"I love this. Obama is ahead of McCain in Arizona 51 to 38." (by UB)
Clarification of the Zogby poll out of Arizona, Keeping it real.
Obama leads by 3. Among independents Obama leads 51 to 38.
According to the most recent Zogby poll, Obama now leads by 3 points in McCain's home state of Arizona. Among independent voters in the state (almost one third of all voters here), Obama is ahead by 13 percent, 51 to 38. (HUFFPO)
Posted by: Coreen
| July 16, 2008 10:53 AM
Jack,
Did I need the LOL directive?
Posted by: prof marcia
| July 16, 2008 10:53 AM
KABUL, Afghanistan — U.S. and Afghan troops have abandoned a remote outpost in eastern Afghanistan where militants killed nine American soldiers this week, officials said Wednesday.
Compounding the military setback, insurgents quickly seized the village of Wanat in Nuristan province after driving out the handful of police left behind to defend government offices, Afghan officials said.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/16/us-troops-forced-out-of-a_n_113000.html
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| July 16, 2008 10:55 AM
Yeah that Arizona number is pretty amazing, there have been several polls and articles over the past few weeks showing McCain is in increasing trouble in his home state.
I think that warrants a group giggle!
*giggles*
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| July 16, 2008 10:57 AM
PM
All I'm sayin'
You can't be too careful around true believers. They tend to be literalists. Proceed at your own risk. ;-)
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 10:57 AM
Top Ten Obama Hubris Moments
#1. When Obama compares himself to Lincoln.
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/groundgame/2008/07/top-10-obama-hubris-moments.html
Posted by: prof marcia
| July 16, 2008 11:00 AM
Enjoy tour vacation, remember the TERRORISTS NEVER TAKE ONE. BTW if you are flying remember to take your shoes off.
VJ Machiavelli
http:/http://www.vjmachiavelli.blogspot.com
ps Obama = Neville Chamberlain = Appeasement = Terrorists wins , we DIE
Posted by: VJ Machiavelli | July 16, 2008 7:31 AM
Sorry, but who IS this nutcase?
Posted by: EuroTom
| July 16, 2008 11:00 AM
Jack,
Thanks for the warning. I'll be careful. I see land mines, you're right.
Posted by: prof marcia
| July 16, 2008 11:02 AM
Addition to my 10:46 A.M. post:
LOL
Posted by: prof marcia
| July 16, 2008 11:03 AM
Tom
You have the pleasure of living in Europe where you don't have to take off your shoes to get on an airplane. It is one of many sillyness we have to endure because of the chicken little security attitude.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 11:05 AM
Marcia I didn't realize you're an Eric Pfeiffer fan, did you follow his column in the National Review too?
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| July 16, 2008 11:06 AM
Wow, now this one really takes the cake!
Elizabeth Dole proposes naming AIDS bill after homophobe Jesse Helms
http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/elizabeth_dole_proposes_naming_aids_bill_after_homophobe_jesse_helms/#When:13:08:00Z
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| July 16, 2008 11:09 AM
Regarding light bulbs, ever see these photographs from space? It is amazing how much energy is burned just in lighting. Look at the US.
http://geology.com/articles/satellite-photo-earth-at-night.shtml
Posted by: Karolenna | July 16, 2008 11:12 AM
wah wah wah
will the crying evah stop?
Posted by: bitterbimbo | July 16, 2008 11:13 AM
Marcia, good find:
I like this: #9: "To Know Me Is To Love Me
And If Jack, Sturge or Jamie are somewhere, there was an oldies song/title that says it best.
A bit of brighter economic news: Crude oil is trading at 133.76 now, lets hope it continues down.
Posted by: Coreen
| July 16, 2008 11:15 AM
Look at Toyko, it rivals NYC
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| July 16, 2008 11:15 AM
Thank you, prof marcia, for highlighting Eric Pfeiffer's blogpost today. He appreciates it. He's logged 1 comment over the past 7 blogposts. Yours.
Be that as it may, here's the full Obama hubris list from Marbury, a British blog that follows US politics.
The comments are very interesting. Those folks get it.
http://marbury.typepad.com/marbury/2008/07/top-ten-obama-hubris-moments.html
Posted by: dog's eye view | July 16, 2008 11:15 AM
New moveon.org ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXl2XXp7fic
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| July 16, 2008 11:15 AM
"Elizabeth Dole proposes naming AIDS bill after homophobe Jesse Helms"
LOL
That drives satirists nuts.
You can't make that kind of stuff up, yet you have to stay ahead of the curve.
When the surreal becomes the reality.
lol
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 11:17 AM
Jason -- I tried to ask about Madonna and Denver, but the post didn't go through....
Posted by: Patsi
| July 16, 2008 11:18 AM
"I actually entered a shopping mall that is specifically for Middle Eastern foods. I"
Unbelievable! Were you heavily armed?
Posted by: Patsi
| July 16, 2008 11:19 AM
Patsi
About Madonna and Denver
I think that maybe the only celebrity she is not sleeping with. He is dead. But then again, maybe she is.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 11:21 AM
"http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/groundgame/2008/07/top-10-obama-hubris-moments.html"
ROFL, Marcia!
Posted by: Patsi
| July 16, 2008 11:25 AM
"Elizabeth Dole proposes naming AIDS bill after homophobe Jesse Helms"
Liddy has truly jumped the shark on this one....
Posted by: Patsi
| July 16, 2008 11:28 AM
Colleen
~~~how about this one~~~~
I Don't Know How To Love Him @ Sarah Brightman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89IRGoggjWM
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 11:29 AM
nd here's Public Policy Polling's (D) survey of the much more conservative South Carolina: McCain 45%, Obama 39%, and Bob Barr 5%, with a ±4.2% margin of error. The X-factor here is Barr, as much of his vote would presumably have gone to McCain in a two-way race.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/16/polls-show-close-race-in_n_113005.html
I'm starting to grow fond of Bob Barr!
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| July 16, 2008 11:31 AM
Q: Why is Obama like commercials?
A: You can't believe a word he says.
Q: Why is Obama like popcorn?
A: He'll satisfy you, but only for a little while.
Q: Why is Obama like a blender?
A: You have one, but you're not quite sure why.
Posted by: GetOverYourself | July 16, 2008 11:32 AM
Teddy Bears - To Know Him Is To Love Him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCnUsInBQws
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 11:32 AM
To all Trail Mixers --
Cigna NY has been approved to withdraw from the HMO/PPO business in NY State by the NY Insurance Commission.
Providers have not been notified of this. There is a great deal of confusion among subscribers and state representatives: the insurance commission is revealing no information about why it has allowed Cigna to do this in such an economy.
There are no controls in place over what any group or individual policy holders will have to pay with their next carrier... which is particularly troubling for people with pre-existing conditions.
If anyone else is affected by this... I will keep you apprised of what I am learning.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| July 16, 2008 11:32 AM
Bowman
"If it was good enough for the 13th century, it is good enough for the new America"
It would be nice to see the stars again.
Posted by: Jamie
| July 16, 2008 11:34 AM
Q: Why is Obama like a blender?
A: You have one, but you're not quite sure why
Margaritas!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib8nH4kHjxk
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 11:35 AM
Jack -- You got it.
You found the oldie I was thinking of--To Know Him is to Love Him--- but the Sarah Brightman--I Don't Know how to love him --really would accomodate any "true believer's" adulation--it even has a Christ-like figure.
I think that song may be from Jesus Chirst Superstar but Jamie or 9/11 would know that.
Posted by: Coreen
| July 16, 2008 11:41 AM
"In fact, the "right" has consistently said the proper diplomacy was back-channel communications, proxy advocates, talks in third countries (what this appears to be), all culminating with talks at the secretarial level, and, ultimately, talks between the national leaders.
I think your comment was pejorative to the extreme, besides being in bad taste."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/10/bush-obama-would-attack_n_85885.html
marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/parsing_obama_without_precondi.php
I don't think Bush and Co. have any basis for criticizing anyone on Persial Gulf policy.
Posted by: Mary Kitt-Neel
| July 16, 2008 11:41 AM
Well, I have to leave for now; don't want to be late for my monthly vilification training.
Posted by: Flatus
| July 16, 2008 11:43 AM
Marilu Socher and Paula Abeles of Real Democrats discuss the aims of their group
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-XsezEe8AQ
Posted by: GORDO | July 16, 2008 11:45 AM
Definition of Obamania:
http://bp0.blogger.com/_t-EfdceTs60/SH2c9imbygI/AAAAAAAAD_U/A1fxVA1lFRs/s1600-h/obamamaniaAllHatNoCattle.jpg
Posted by: jeejee
| July 16, 2008 11:45 AM
Coreen
Got the name right this time
It is from Jesus Christ Superstar
This one was just a better quality video than the one I tried from the movie.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 11:47 AM
Coreen: "I don't know how to love him" is from Jesus Christ Superstar.
Posted by: maggisd
| July 16, 2008 11:47 AM
Thanks for that link GORDO, talk about amazingly stupid women, claiming Clinton and McCain are alike on the issues. You can't make this stuff up!
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| July 16, 2008 11:54 AM
Good commentary on the New Yorker cover ... just in case anyone didn't know how to respond.
http://gawker.com/5025508/how-you-were-supposed-to-respond-to-the-new-yorker-cover-in-5-easy-steps
Posted by: Jamie
| July 16, 2008 11:56 AM
While reading the Marburg list, this is what I heard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B7bVD_DkM4
Posted by: Jamie
| July 16, 2008 11:59 AM
9/11, I have Cigna and I was notified two months ago in a letter from them. They will stop coverage as of 1/1/09 so you can get another carrier and not have pre-existing conditions a problem. Cigna will continue to have employer insurance in NYS. Oxford, Empire, GHI, Atetna all have similar products at similar rates. The question is why was Cigna allowed to keep employer insurance while cancelling individual coverage (HMO). And they were not the cheapest of similar products. I would go to your doctors and ask them which alternative they accept.
The reason Obama leads despite the poll numbers on critical topics is that they have not gone head to head. Candidates are positioning for September and Obama has already said some things in stone he will regret.
If I were McCain, I would be fashioning a comprehensive economic and energy plan people can digest. He can draw attention to the sweet deal bailout, the no drilling, the extensive Democratic social programs and the fact Middle and Lower income tax cut during Bush reduced Fed revenue far more than the tax cuts for the wealthy.
Foreign policy should be a no brainer, but McCain had better up his marketing and stump deliveries.
Posted by: Maxtrue | July 16, 2008 12:09 PM
Obama Makes Gains Among Less Educated
http://www.gallup.com/fvideo.aspx?i=tV7AyA-bN9ApQQemMEcV6tykX-AKHY58w@rvjoxKAAdTWmYC6-CxJ(.D6YjMAykYObU3uBGecrx2j-C8PVOnYhQaa
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| July 16, 2008 12:11 PM
"Foreign policy should be a no brainer, but McCain had better up his marketing and stump deliveries. "
Tell that to the people of Czechoslovakia
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| July 16, 2008 12:13 PM
Brian,
"claiming Clinton and McCain are alike on the issues"
See why I keep saying these supposed "Real Democrats" and "PUMAS" deserting because of Clinton are really Republicans trying to agitate the Obama folks?
Posted by: Jamie
| July 16, 2008 12:14 PM
ROFL, Jamie & JeeJee!
Posted by: Patsi
| July 16, 2008 12:19 PM
What does PUMA stand for Jamie?
Posted by: Bear
| July 16, 2008 12:19 PM
Jamie....
I really, really LOVED step #5...... ROFL!
wish I had more time to play..... but I don't..... setting up for my grueling 9-day fair 2 weeks from tomorrow.....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| July 16, 2008 12:23 PM
jamie
What those groups do is feed the beliefs of Obama camp that there is no problem. It is all just an issue made up by the Republicans. Mean while there is still a real problem amoung 20% of democrats who voted for HRC that the Obama camp seem to be ignoring.
Interesting.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 12:23 PM
'Superstar' made me think of Bernstein's Mass:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgxF0KmsImY&feature=related
Posted by: Flatus
| July 16, 2008 12:23 PM
Jamie one would think they could come up with a better argument than claiming Clinton and McCain are aligned on the issues.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| July 16, 2008 12:24 PM
Jamie: I don't think of myself as a Republican, despite my 1976 vote for President Ford. I'm not even a Reagan Democrat as I believe one has to have voted for Reagan to fall into that category.
Of course, I have never claimed (or thought) that Clinton and McCain are alike on all--or most of the issues. I do assert, and believe, that McCain and Clinton are alike in that they are both pragmatists rather than ideologues.
Posted by: maggisd
| July 16, 2008 12:24 PM
Ignoring how Jack? Obama has spent the bulk of the last few weeks meeting with Clinton supporters and speaking out on women's issues. Nothing short of opening a vein will satisfy that group.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| July 16, 2008 12:26 PM
Brian: The fact that Sen McCain can't quite get his brain around the phrase "Czech Republic" is possibly of less importance than the problem he is addressing ... the fact that Russia is reaching out to exert control over Eastern European countries by using oil and natural gas supplies as a weapon in place of the tanks they used to use.
On the other hand, does either candidate (or did Hillary) oppose the missile shield any longer? I have heard no one discuss it ...
Posted by: maggisd
| July 16, 2008 12:30 PM
Maggi,
From my perspective, and excellent characterization.
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/07/open-thread-week.html#comment-116087
Posted by: Flatus
| July 16, 2008 12:32 PM
Brian
I know you are clueless about these issues(and that is just a statement of fact not a put down) But until Obama addresses the rampant sexism that was in his campaign it will be very hard for me to vote for him. As I said long ago, i walked away from the Republican party over racism. I will not tolerate the blatant sexism from the Obama camp. For others there may be other issues.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| July 16, 2008 12:34 PM
Brian: I don't feel ignored by the Obama campaign and personally I reject the notion of women's issues --
My own take on this whole thing is that a great many former Hillary supporters who have not yet "come around" or who remain "bitter" -- call it what you will -- are not waiting to be wooed so much as waiting to see if anyone will step up and administer to their wounds ... it is not pleasant to be characterized as bitter, racist, downscale, uneducated, etc ... because a person prefers one candidate to another.
Posted by: maggisd
| July 16, 2008 12:41 PM
"Brian: The fact that Sen McCain can't quite get his brain around the phrase "Czech Republic" is possibly of less importance"
He seems to have a lot trouble getting his mind to wrap around a lot of things, like the difference between Sunni an