Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

"President-in-waiting Barack Obama. . .now aspires to be the leader
of Earth itself."

You certainly have a way with words, Mr. Crawford.

Perhaps we should call Mr. Obama, Emperor of the World.

Craig, hope you all had a great vacation and am just glad you're back. Missed your insight and quirky humor!

Prof Marcia -- Emperor of the World seems so limiting. I think Czar of the Universe would be more appropriate.

Check out David Brooks in NYT today. Mr. Brooks seems to have fallen out of love with The One. He says that The One has "jumped the shark" with his Berlin speech.

I'm curious. Who is Craig's base?

Germans, as a people, are different. And sometimes not in a good way, as history has shown.

They seem to love having the cohesiveness that overarching rhetoric performed in magnificent spaces generates.

That's what Messrs Kennedy and Reagan counted on, and what Mr Obama's campaign understood.

If more examples of rhetoric-generated German crowds are needed, I will oblige.

"They seem to love having the cohesiveness that overarching rhetoric performed in magnificent spaces generates."

Absolutely true, Flatus. The Germans are different than you and I.

"leader of Earth itself."

Obama, King of the World!
(He'll have to share that honor with James Cameron, of course)
Since he's already "King of the 3-D World".

High, lofty ideas. Who can fault that?

Marcia,
Don't you love it when someone insults you and then turns around and asks you how you are?

firstly, craig, it's not that americans are so desperate to be liked as much as it is that the rest of the world longs for america, the world leader, to reflect the morality and hope that it used to possess...before it went bush league.

secondly, to all the nay sayers...tell me again...what is it that's WRONG about a leader who is intelligent, articulate, and inspirational?

Wow -- That David Brooks op/ed is sharp considering he was slobbering over O some months ago:

"But he has grown accustomed to putting on this sort of saccharine show for the rock concert masses, and in Berlin his act jumped the shark. His words drift far from reality, and not only when talking about the Senate Banking Committee. His Berlin Victory Column treacle would have made Niebuhr sick to his stomach.

Obama has benefited from a week of good images. But substantively, optimism without reality isn’t eloquence. It’s just Disney. "

Craig.....
only your second day back and already you're a naughty, naughty boy.....
god how I love it!..... :0)

good morning gang.....

Maybe Obama should just run the UN. If he could fix that organization, that would be change I could believe in.

Ha! So, his self-stylized presidential seal didn't show enough bravado, now running for leader of the entire Earth. (Could come in handy when the aliens make contact & ask us to take them to our leader...we've never had just one before.)

MoJo had it right, too. He was pro-America because he had to be.

Along that line, I think BO's European vacation may have had one more target: He looked more pro-American to Americans because he was against a non-American backdrop...you know, like when you stand next to someone short in a picture so that you'll look taller.

Craig,

As usual you try to bring the discussions back to reality, after watching the speech, it was clear that Obama aspires to be "leader of the earth".

Frankly, I'm looking for a President of the United States

Morning, Dog.

I simply can't imagine Mr McCain making such a speech. I don't think it's in his character.

With such a speech, timing is everything; he should have done it next year on a beautiful spring day in _________. Does anyone have an alternative venue to suggest?

Mr Bush made sweeping statements during his campaign. Like telling veterans, "A promise made will be a promise kept."

It will be more than good riddance come January,

Bowmanc - You may be on to something there; BO heading up the UN.

Question: Now that BO says he has moved away from the left in order to be all things to all people, what would preclude him from having Hil'ry as veep? The arguement that he is the new, improved, lemon fresh agent of change has kind of fizzled.

Craig, I just realized we missed your birthday this year. Hope it was a good one.

"...what is it that's WRONG about a leader who is intelligent, articulate, and inspirational?"

Depends on whether he's really saying anything or selling a motivational course.

So, they could be lying, renaming Cuba or...Venezuela isn't that far away. So help me, I think Nikita is banging his shoe on a table in hell & laughing right now.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=aX_aqwcLYsXY&refer=latin_america

Blue....
HA!..... that's why I stand next to my 4'7" mother as often as I can.....

dog..... hell yes I'm tired of the Bush/Cheney junta..... but does Obama have to challenge them on cockiness every chance he gets..... I really do hope he can live up to the billing he's giving himself....

and could someone please link to the David Brooks article..... I'd love to read it....

As to David Brooks column "Playing Innocent Abroad", Its' about time some in the fawning media wake up.

"The golden rhetoric impresses less, the evasion of hard choices strikes one more."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/25/opinion/25brooks.html?_r=1&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print

rr - Yes, he and W are two-of-kind when it comes to hubris. When his parade passes by there are big, steaming piles of it everywhere...but nary a turd of substance to be trod upon.

I would love to see a psych/personality comparison of BO & W...(bow to them, bow, I say). Colleen?

His own arrogance is a more compelling argument against his candidacy than I could ever make. Judging from the comments, it seems that many agree. Who woulda thunk it?

Slate magazine on what Bush cronies could be prosecuted:

http://www.slate.com/id/2195533/

Craig, It is easy for BHO to now move to a world stage, This is made easy by the lack of foundation, which is why his constant CHANGE continues to be the path.
I am sure he had a very big HIGH after speaking at such an important venue.
To bad that such a speech was delivered by a façade.

I find it amusing that Hillary got nailed about being the presumptive nominee early on in the primary and now Obama is doing the same thing. I mean, why stop at the world? Emporor of the Universe! Oh, Arnold was already Mr. Universe.

Off to work, but had to comment.

Flatus, Morgan !!
Of Course JM could not deliver that speach, He is to grounded and down to earth unlike BHO. That is BHO skill set and blessing - which maybe he looks "Presidential" but my does not make him one.

Germans are Different! Yes I work with and have the pleasure to go to Germany often.
I will check with my colleges over the pond and see their reaction - problem is they are also evil capitalistics types - So maybe not much different then mine.

new posters attracted by Craig's "objectivity."

dog, speaking as a newbie, i take umbrage at your quotation marks. craig was accused of "being in the tank for mccain" when i first got here. compared to the rest of the punditry out there, he's mr. equal opportunity to a fault (just in my biased opinion though).

patd

You know how it goes, if you aren't gushing over Obama like a school girl, you must be a Republican.

Jack

Dog,
I am a proud member of Craigs Base -- ?? how does that sound?
I think sometimes he is half a step ahead and find myself reading his posts over and over trying to figure out what put the smile on his face.

I just received a little plastic mailing envelope in an online order just delivered, and it says CELL PHONES FOR SOLDIERS (Cell Phone Recycling Program) on it. It say's HELP OUR TROOPS CALL HOME.

What a great idea! You just place your old cell phone in it and it's pre-addressed, no postage necessary. I'm going to do it. Has anyone else ever seen these?

I suppose I'd have to question Dog's "objectivity" with regard to Mr Craig's "objectivity".......if i wannered to be "objective" that is........

what was that first question again?

"Perhaps Americans are so desperate to be liked by the rest of the world that Obama is on to something."

Perhaps, since we have been the assholes to the earth, and killed many innocents in an unjust war, committed war crimes against humanity - just maybe it's time to make amends to the world? After all - this is a global economy and and international relationships are a must for future success on all fronts.

I see nothing wrong in trying to build a better world....it can't be done in an arrogant American bubble.

PS: save your snide comments for yourselves.....my posts are for those who treat me with respect only!! The rest please just skip over.

Craig

I suspect many European foreign policy types are yearning for a return to the "good old days", where We lead and let them bitch and grouse as long as they mostly followed along. Europe is very comfortable in the Gabby Hays sidekick role.
Kinda like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnFFb3LCEo0

Jack

Dateline...... Southern Germany.
First reported reactions from live in the field reporters..

(please forgive the direct translation) Obama Sucks.

So Warning - DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THE MEDIA AND PRESS scripted output.

"my posts are for those who treat me with respect only!!"

Me too!!!! That is why I only talk to those who agree with me and only in private email!

What's that?
Oh, this isn't email?
Oh well, Never mind

Jack

Miley Cyrus filled Times Square with thousands of screaming preteens this morning. Does she get to be Sec Def?

McCain to dine in a French restaurant today as Barack Obama visits France.

killfile

Posted by: unlikely_burrito | July 25, 2008 9:06 AM

As you wish

Here is the English translation of Der Spiegel on Obama's speech

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,568091,00.html

Jamie

VP, Obama/ Montana 08

Jack

“firstly, craig, it's not that americans are so desperate to be liked as much as it is that the rest of the world longs for america, the world leader, to reflect the morality and hope that it used to possess...before it went bush league.

secondly, to all the nay sayers...tell me again...what is it that's WRONG about a leader who is intelligent, articulate, and inspirational?“

Finally, an intelligent post! BTW, where are the Clintons? Why aren’t they putting their bodies where their mouths had said they would be? Obama better win or her goose (well, you know what I want to say here) is cooked for good.

Leaving today for HilliaryLand. Hate it and always will but I’m doing my duty to care for my mother this weekend. Actually, I never liked the hills of SE Ohio nor WV just across the river. Now, to go listen to Mom talk about “that old black man”. Most of the talk in SE Ohio is worse than that! Don’t tell me I don’t have patience.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/R/REPUBLICANS_HOUSING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush pulled the rug out from under Republicans this week when he abruptly dropped his opposition to a massive housing rescue. Their reaction? Good riddance.

Jack

She can't be veep for 20 years.

"Clintonites Still Aren't Sending Much Cash to Obama. Why That's Good News for the Dems."

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/07/23/clintonites-still-aren-t-sending-much-cash-to-obama-why-that-s-good-news-for-the-dems.aspx

" In other words, the much-hyped rumors of Clintonites refusing to accept Obama as their nominee were greatly exaggerated--or simply, you know, inconsequential."

Karolenna

"BTW, where are the Clintons"

They are probably staying away from the limelight so that the whole media focus is on Obama. The Democrats are trying not to make any news that might distract from those images in the news.

Suppose Obama is elected president, what if he applies the same work ethic to that job that he has to his senatorial duties, will he get bored?

This is a serious question. What is there in his past performance in the offices he has held that we can use to predict his future performance. We know he runs a good campaign, but what else has he really accomplished?

Jamie,
That translation on Obama's speech was a great find. I don't know how you do it, but thanks, I was trying and coming up with nothing.

Jamie, Thanks for the link.
Curious as to the spin the BHO organization gave to each of the press to make sure a consistent theme is portrayed - again a theme of words only from a sea of CHANGE known as Barack

Dog,
Thanks, but you don't have to dirty your paws, for me....like you said, it's just too beautiful of a day to deal in the dirt.

: )

"What is there in his past performance in the offices he has held that we can use to predict his future performance."

bowmanc,
You've just nudged me into my favorite line. "The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior." I know I've said that before, but I live by it.

Bowmac - He is running the campaign?
I will be in Chi Town in a few weeks.. BHO is the front of a large machine....

I don't consider myself a a**hole to the earth. That is an incredibly broad brush to paint with.

And given my choice,this moring I would like to deal in the dirt, my vegatable garden needs attention.

Jamie

a mere technicality.
After all according to Gordo, Obama is ineligible too.

And as GWB says, "Constitution? what constitution?"

Jack
with tongue firmly in cheek

Karolenna,

It might b wise to talk bout flowers or food....just so you can keep the peace. I know with my Mother we have a No-Politics rule....it works the most times.

Good Luck ! : )

"Curious as to the spin the BHO organization gave to each of the press to make sure a consistent theme is portrayed -"

Ping Pong,
I've always wondered about that. Such coordination in all the media.

Dog
Her silly games are really irritating this early in the morning. I will work at being better, ok mama ;-)

Jack

Chloe

Yesterday when we were typing all the silliness about "tests", I said that my rule was that you didn't need to know everything, you just needed to know where to find everything. :-)

There's no mystery. After more than 30 years as a researcher, I know all sorts of places to go hunting.

Bow,
"environmentally speaking" We have failed to protect the earth, and we have limited and reduced funds for scientific development and research, placing ourselves behind the eight ball....but twist it however you like, if that's what gives you kicks!

"you didn't need to know everything, you just needed to know where to find everything. :-)"

Jamie,
I saw that yesterday.
And I knew you were right.
But don't underestimate that 30 years research experience. It's a gift you have.

Chloe. Have no doubt that the Euro Press has been worked like they have never been worked before.

I am sending a suggestion to JM to offer the Press Sec job to BHO. How BHO and the Machine behind him has made such of nothing (beyond nice thoughts and words) is amazing.
I think that will be a great line from JM today at the French Resturant

me too.

Chloe

One of the things I love about Jamie is if you get in a discussion, she can drown you in facts. You can tell when her real passion is being discussed. It is 3 posts in a row loaded to the limit with links. Maybe not that much but a lot.

Jack

Ping Pong,
I don't mean this to be insulting to Obama, but what I see him as is the 'face' of that machine. What he actually do with that power, I can only hope. But if he does become President, i hope he uses it wisely.

Jack,
I love that about her too.

Me drei
love ya Jamie.... you to KCG....

Coreen..... thanks for posting the Brooks article....

Bowman.... every time I've asked that kind of question to an Obama supporter, I've gotten a story about how they (or their mother) has never been interested in politics before and now they are inspired..... of course..... that doesn't really answer the question..... but it seems to be all they've got....

Jack.... you too are a very naughty, naughty boy today....... ;0)

http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/25/real_estate/foreclosure_figures_up_again/index.htm?postversion=2008072505&eref=rss_topstories

"Foreclosure filings up 120%
220,000 homes were lost to bank repossessions in the second quarter, and the annual forecast for 2008 will have to be revised upward. "

The MBA president at work

The food industry lobbied against tracing legisation
if the money paid to lobbyists had been used for a tracing system --the tomato industry would not have lost a ton of money. Penny wise...pound foolish
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080725/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/salmonella_lobbying;_ylt=AjtNoqe4Ui2iglctVuV9Ovus0NUE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Vs5570pKw

Since we're on the subject...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ughqjbzx2Fk&feature=related

Craig must have helped our economy (using Obama logic) will here at home in Orlando

Existing-home sales inch ahead in Orlando area

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-homes2508jul25,0,2806537.story

Here's the easiest hint for Googling - Use as few words as possible to describe what you want.

Yesterday we needed info on how the education of women helped decrease the birth rate and helped control over population. I could have typed, "Does the education of women have any effect on birth rate and population control?"

Instead I typed:

birth rate education women

and got back

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS211US212&q=Birth+Rate+Education+Women

You can click on that link to see that the top 10 returns were usable for our purposes here.

Dog - you may find that the prior does show in the behavior, just because they where there does not indicate quality.... also Peter Princilpe

At least they had something

"CELL PHONES FOR SOLDIERS (Cell Phone Recycling Program) on it. It say's HELP OUR TROOPS CALL HOME."

What a great idea...I usually give them to the women's shelter. But this is also a great place for them.

The people that went to see Obama in Berlin, went to see Obama because they wanted to....that speaks to their individual choice and is a reflection of their interests. It speaks to their desire to embrace a possibility of change in American leadership....

If nothing more, it is a tremendous compliment to Obama and his campaign.

Link for online comments to the FDA on their food safety program....only a few days left

http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/oc/ohrms/dailylist.cfm?yr=2008&mn=4&dy=1

Here is all the information and instructions for donating cell phones

http://www.cellphonesforsoldiers.com/

Jamie,

Thanks for the German press comments about Obama's speech.

It would seem that they have a much more honest interpretation of all things Obama than our awestruck media.

Patsi,
When you just mentioned that Cell Phone mailer, you got me thinking about it again. I just looked it up and there's a site.
http://www.cellphonesforsoldiers.com/shippingLabel_generic.html

But I also think it's great that you give them to the women's shelter. I never even thought of it.

Jamie

let me add, once you get to a site you will often be able to pick up on technical jargon that will give you words to refine your search.

One warning, beware of advocate pages.
EX on gun control. Handgun inc. or NRA web both give unbalanced views.

Jack

Just saw Jamie was way ahead of me.

" BTW, where are the Clintons? Why aren’t they putting their bodies where their mouths had said they would be? Obama better win or her goose (well, you know what I want to say here) is cooked for good. "

Either incredibly stupid, or a death threat. Take your pick.

Jack

That comes up in later lessons in the course. :-)

The whole business of kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, and species

Karo, I have begged you to stop throwing your racist family in the mix. We don't care what sort of upbringing you had.

"Experience is a great teacher, but not the only one. And not a reliable indicator of how an individual will fare once in the arena and faced with decision-making."

Maybe he'll continue to just vote "present." Which was what the original point was.

Jamie....

re: the discussion on educating women and lower birth rates from last night.....

Paul Ehrlich mentioned that fact on NPR yesterday....
I'm thinking about getting his latest book...."The Dominant Animal: Human Evolution and the Environment".....

but my to-read pile is getting huge.....

McCain gains ground in Michigan, several other states:

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080725/NEWS15/807250386/0/NEWS07

RR

To even make the attempt at completing my "To Be Read" pile would require a cloister and vow of silence for the next 20 years.

Jamie

True,

I was always reading ahead in the book.

fidget fidget fidget

Jack

I'm always suspicious of charity solicitations. I did go to the Better Business Bureau to see what they had to say. Basically, it was that Cell Phones for Soldiers hasn't responded to their requests for information. I see that as a red flag.

http://charityreports.bbb.org/public/Report.aspx?CharityID=5642&bureauID=0021

Trailmixers in Action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwX0ZiT9n-I

"give them to the women's shelter"

Chloe -- we have a new challange here in Nashville. The YWCA is trying to set up a better, more organized way to move women from the shelters to living on their own. They are in the process of renting apartments, and furnishing them. I learned of the plan when I offered some baby furniture that I'd bought for times my granddaughter was here. She's outgrown it all now.

They also need dishes, bedding, everything.

Most people have good things that are gathering dust in closets or store rooms. My daughter says she still has wedding gifts in the original boxes.

"Karo, I have begged you to stop throwing your racist family in the mix. We don't care what sort of upbringing you had."

Sorry, Patsy, ruler of the blog. I just tell it the way it is. You've heard the talk on television from other SE Ohio people, WV, and KY. It's not about me or my family. It’s an ethnic thing. Bigotry rules the area. It's a matter of fact.

Actually, I had a very good Christian (Congregational) upbringing, thanks to my father who was an intelligent, good person.

UB, I intend to have a good time. My daughter is taking my beautiful granddaughter down today and leaving tomorrow morning since her husband is traveling. My aunt has already called saying Mom is asking where I am. She will do that until I get there. Just thought I would check to see what was going on before I logged off. Have a nice day all.

This article is somewhat dated but, I don't care

World's 10 Worst Pollution Spots

NEW YORK, New York, October 18, 2006 (ENS) - The world's 10 most polluted places threaten the health of more than 10 million people in eight countries, according to a report released today by a U.S. environmental action group. Three of the most polluted sites are in Russia, the report said, with the remaining seven located in China, Dominican Republic, India, Kyrgyzstan, Peru, Ukraine and Zambia.

The report was released by the Blacksmith Institute and compiled by a team of international environment and health experts, including researchers from Johns Hopkins University, Mt. Sinai Medical Center and City University of New York.

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/oct2006/2006-10-18-02.asp

Thanks Ping and Dog for the nice compliment

One of the best and most under utilized resources for learning research techniques is your local reference librarian. Librarians do it by the book :)

"You've heard the talk on television from other SE Ohio people, WV, and KY. It's not about me or my family. It’s an ethnic thing. Bigotry rules the area. It's a matter of fact."

That's painting with a pretty broad brush. Ethnics are racists.

Flatus, the envelope came in an Amazon order. When I saw your post, I just looked this up and it says AT&T is also involved, donating $500,000.

http://www.geeksugar.com/1113576

"I thought it was great to hear Obama talking about shared responsibility, as he said we formed NATO to fight communism, certainly we can do the same to fight terrorism. "

OMG! I do believe that's the very first time I've ever heard about the concept of NATO and shared responsibility! Obama is brilliant! How could I not have seen the light before?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109060/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Maintains-Slim-Advantage-Over-McCain.aspx

Daily Gallup Poll

Could there be a break up in the making between the press & Team Obama?

"End of the Affair (The New Republic)

"The press certainly helped Obama get so far so fast; the question is, how far can he get if his campaign alienates them?"

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=6e9f4a42-9540-4d99-aba2-25adc276c25d&p=2

"So much for 'Obama Love'... (McCain's web ad)...This romance has been a prominent story line of Obama's entire campaign, & clearly elements of it are true....

But scratch the surface, & you'll find a lot of mixed feelings behind the Obama 'love'. Reporters are grumbling more & more that the campaign is acting like the Prom Queen. They gripe that it is 'arrogant' & 'controlling' & the campaign's own belief that Obama is poised to make history isn't endearing, either."

Let' see...Obama visits Germany yesterday. McCain visits a German restaurant in Ohio yesterday. Trail Mixers visited a German restaurant in Las Vegas in October of 2006. I think Obama and McCain are a little behind the Trail Mixers. LOL!

http://www.hofbrauhauslasvegas.com/

Katherine,
That daily Gallup is interesting.

It seems like McCain can sit there and not be doing much of anything, and things stay pretty much the same. Weird.

KGC

Research Librarians fell in love with the Internet many, many years ago. The majority of those resources that used to surround them and that they had to manually rummage through to find info is now on the net, much of it in areas that are not even accessible to the average user such as JSTOR ( http://www.jstor.org/?cookieSet=1 )

Of course the skills they had to learn about what and where to search still apply.

Corey,
How are things working out between you parents?

Corey

If we hold another get together there will McCain come and speak to us? Being heard over that fleugelhorn might prove difficult.

The same, chloe. My Dad fell last Sunday night. He tried to put his pajama bottoms on while standing up in the bathroom, instead of sitting on the bed. He fell into the glass doors of their shower and knocked them off the track. He hurt his hip, but nothing serious. This happened after 11:30 p.m. My Mom could not get him up and he could not get up on his own. She had to call 911 to get someone to come and help him get up, since I was at work and she didn't wanna call anybody else that late at night. He just makes bad judgments and gets himself hurt a lot. Thanks for asking, chloe.

For most people now, all you need is a library card to access a wide variety of previously unavailable data bases. Most libraries have made available these services. In California --any resident can get a library card from any county. SF and LA are especially good ones. Plus the state if working on a big inter connection program which means you can use the online services regardless.

Also college libraries also offer online (normally fee based data services for free) for the most part you have to use them at the library but if you are taking courses they are available at remote sites with your registration cards.

Possibly the best online services and a leader has been the library in Philadelphia.

Dog...
I like BHO, I would love to have him in my house for dinner... I have his books, What he is doing is very impressive - so do not get me wrong.

I just also see that he is Running for President, Needs to create and I disagree with what he represents by his actions (not what he says) and based on the two who the heck knows what he would do.

If he agrees to come to dinner I will make sure a plate is their for you

Jamie, I'd rather have Obama speak to us. I mean, he has way more campaign money than McCain and could probably afford to buy us more beer!

PS... I know a lot of others that have dreams, speak well, have good following .... but would this does not make a President

The Gallup presidential tracking poll comes out every three days.

"It seems like McCain can sit there and not be doing much of anything, and things stay pretty much the same. Weird"

Chloe

It is summertime
Most folks are thinking about the kids camp, ballgames or the family vaction. Only folks like you and I have no life so we obsess on politics in the dog days of summer.
;-0

I thought the poll yesterday where McCain was making up ground on Obama in battle ground states was interesting when contrasted with the same poll showing people very disatisfied with the economy.
What it said to me is that Obama has not made the sale that he is the solution. So big chunks of voters are up for grabs by the person that can best make the case.

Jack

Jack

Corey,
Just remember he knows what's going on, but can't do anything about it. People think that old people don't have all their mental faculties, but I think they have a good comprehension of what's happening and are aware of and frustrated by their short comings. It's just a difficult situation all around. Especially for your mom.

Yeah, I see Craig is back with his snide remarks about Obama. Great way to keep the fire hot on the blog.

You know the McCain campaign is incompetent when they couldn't counter program against a candidate who was out of the country for two weeks. And can McCain stop telling an unfunny joke and then laughing? It's super creepy.

I meant to say the daily gallup is a rolling three day polling but this is an interesting comparison

Gallup Daily: Obama Maintains Slim Edge Over McCain
Overseas trip has not altered voter preferences to date
July 24, 2008Several days into his overseas trip, Barack Obama holds just a slim advantage over John McCain in Gallup Poll Daily tracking of the presidential race, 45% to 43%.More ...
Gallup Daily: Obama Has Modest 4-Point Lead
No sign yet of significant impact of Obama’s world tour
July 23, 2008Barack Obama maintains a modest 46% to 42% lead over John McCain among registered voters nationally in Gallup Poll Daily tracking, with no sign yet of a significant “bounce” from Obama’s high-visibility world tour.More ...

Corey

Hey! If he's buying, I'll gaze adoringly.

KGC,

Our local library is wonderful. I can access the Ancestor records there for free and it would cost me a couple of hundred a year to have it at home. They also have a Northwest Specific history and genealogical collection that isn't available anywhere else.

I'm all in favor of anything that will get people inside a library.

Jack,
I went into a Dollar General the other day. I don't talk politics with anyone (except here obviously). . I can't remember why, but the clerk started talking about how much she likes McCain (actually, she kept calling him McClain). She said she likes him and trusts him and hope he wins. She seemed to be under the impression, that would make everything all right. She said, "I don't like that other guy".

Now this is a smallish suburb I live in. And these people aren't all that political. But they're thinking about this particular election.

Mr. Democrat, McCain laughing at his own jokes is a sign of a bad comedian. I remember someone saying the same thing about Garry Shandling. He always laughed at his own jokes.

Chloe

Our neighborhood McD's tends to be a hangout for homeless types and tends not to be very clean. So we will do breakfast on the weekend at one on down the road over in a predominately AA community. It is the local neighborhood coffee shop type atmosphere. Last Saturday I was listening to a group of elderly AA men discuss Obama in the table next to us. It was like being in here, with supporters , sceptics and one man certain he was just someones puppet.

Jack

I think people laughing at their own jokes just make them that much funnier.

Red Skelton used to do that.
Doesn't Dennis Miller do that.

I hate to admit it, I always laugh at my own jokes.
I get a bigger kick out of my jokes than anyone else does.
I'm alway thinking how much 'I crack myself up'.
(just a little confession there).

Hey

If you don't laugh at your own joke who will?

Jack

Jack,
That's funny.
See, we're not the only ones thinking about politics.

Jack...~~~~speak for yourself~~~~..... I have plenty of a life..... I just happen to be a political junkie.... although... I am a mixture of bemused and a tad bit disgusted with it at the moment......

Chloe.... I learned a lesson in how aware the elderly can be recently.....
after our breakfast party this past Sunday..... my hubby and I went to visit our neighbor's 95 yr old father in a local nursing home..... her ex was there with him out on the lawn enjoying some fresh air......

he started talking to me about his "new Cadillac" and how well it drove.....
I thought he was talking about some car back in his past...... turns out he was making a joke about the wheelchair he was sitting in....

I LOVE librarians...... hell... I married one....

McCain's audience always seems a beat behind, like "oh, we're supposed to laugh now", as McCain gives it the old man at the barbershop snicker.

And Chloe, Dennis Miller proves my point. lol He lost his funny about the same time he lost his way politically.

Renee,
We underestimate elderly people so much. I have no doubt. 95 years old and a sense of humor.

The highlight of recent days was Katie Couric's interview of a hapless Obama. Katie revealed O's lack of perspective when viewing himself.

Wake up Democrats!

The Oregon Senate race looks very good for Jeff Merkley (Democrat). Senator Gordon Smith has launched a very negative television campaign which is not being well-received.

I remember when my Uncle Chuck died in 1987. The funeral was in Detroit. He was my Dad's oldest brother. Several of my Uncle Chuck's friends showed up for the funeral. Many of these friends of his were people my other Uncles had not seen in years. I remember my Uncle Larry smacking himself in the forehead every time he was introduced to one of my Uncle's friends. Just like those V-8 commercials. It was his way of saying, "D'oh! I know who you are!" My Uncle Hal said, "Larry is gonna give himself a concussion if he keeps hitting himself in the head like that!"

Not sure, someone probably linked this yesterday but this one figure caught my attention just now:

"An Obama-Hillary Clinton ticket would eat a McCain-Mitt Romney ticket by 48 percent to 39 percent."
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/polltracker/2008/07/new-fox-poll-has-obama-and-mcc.html

"Red Skelton used to do that. "

Yes! I can still remember that when Skelton started laughing, my dad would start as well, and he loved it when Red couldn't stop. Also, remember how Dean Martin would get tickled on his show?

Chloe..I would prefer a Clinton-Gore ticket.

Me too Oregon.

Dean Martin Another laugher I loved.

Speaking of Dean Martin..I recently saw a tape of a Judy Garland special with Dean and Frank Sinatra from the 60's..so much talent!!!

"Notes from the Road with a Rock and Roll Band and Billy Bob Thornton, by Horse Dooty"

Interesting stuff, Doots!

Chloe -- People around here say that Eddy Arnold was the greatest laugher in town. He got tickled easily, and had a big robust laugh that just kept on going. If you were doing a show and needed a built-in laugh track, just invite Eddy.

"My Uncle Hal said, "Larry is gonna give himself a concussion if he keeps hitting himself in the head like that!""

Great story, Corey -- I can just picture it!

Eddy Arnold

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTKeo4w7npA

'Things to do, people to see, places to go'.

Later

From the TNR article link at 10:38 AM:

"Reporters who have covered Obama's biography or his problems with certain voter blocs have been challenged the most aggressively. "They're terrified of people poking around Obama's life," one reporter says. "The whole Obama narrative is built around this narrative that Obama and David Axelrod built, and, like all stories, it's not entirely true. So they have to be protective of the crown jewels." Another reporter notes that, during the last year, Obama's old friends and Harvard classmates were requested not to talk to the press without permission."

("They're terrified of people poking around Obama's life," one reporter says. " Wonder why? Obama is hidding plenty of damaging info. Dems who want to win the WH should demand answers from Obama - NOW. This is the calm before the storm. The Repubs would be ferocious in their attack on him.)

Hey Oregon Democrat,

At what point are you going to join the rest of us in reality?

Gordo the weirdo.

"At what point are you going to join the rest of us in reality? "

Sorry, Bye-Bye, I've never been the Spahn's Ranch type....

Off to work..Have a nice day.

Off to work..Have a nice day.

Sorry Patsi, but are you Oregon Democrat?

Chloe, I got one of those with my Amazon.com order. Living in Europe and having a European Cellphone, I wasn't sure it would help, but if it does, I am willing to send my old one out.

BTW, you guys somehow think that using my former Bye Bye Billary persona will annoy me. Why would it? In fact, I actually enjoy how it got into all of your heads to the point where you seem to be haunted by it. Since Billary has gone Bye Bye, I see no need to keep using it, but by all means, keep bringing it up. It's a feather in my cap each time! lol

My post to Chloe was in reference to this post:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/07/obama-goes-global.html#comment-120037

His handlers will probably have McCain order French Toast from a Dennys to show his common touch.

So I'll just call you Mr. Demoiselle, ma petite.

If someone, anyone, wants to be the President of The United States, and control our nuclear arsenal, their entire lfe should be an open book, we should know everything about them.

This was not the case with GWB and we have suffered for that. So I say ask the questions, dig into his background, and get the answers, let the public know. Free flow of information is what I want, hell do the same for McCain.

Vive Le Grand Slam!

LOL
At least we see a couple of experts at Jr high mentality style posting.

Jack

I saw that yesterday there was a lot of discussion about tearing down the Berlin Wall. I visited Berlin in 2000 and I saw famous places such as Checkpoint Charlie, the church that was bombed during WWII and still stands, and parts of the Berlin Wall that remains up. What I found interesting is that many apartment buildings served as part of the wall, The residents had to move out, and the windows were removed and concrete put in place. Also, you could see many bullet holes in various buildings where it was clear people had tried to escape. So sad. One of the most beautiful places to visit was Potsdam. Absolutely gorgeous! A beautiful castle just inside the "city". I walked across the bridge from West Berlin into Potsdam where the two "sides" would mutually trade their captured spies in order to get their own back.

When I was a kid, I remember my Mom hopping out of her car to run into a record shop to buy a 45 rpm. I remember it to this day! It had a pink label and it said "BIG TOP" on it, and the song was WEST OF THE WALL by Toni Fisher. I have always loved this song, and now you can hear it too. Toni died a few years ago of a heart attack. She was a wonderful singer who didn't get even half of the attention and interest I think she deserved.

Take a listen and tell me what you think... I think it's lovely

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVeG-MllgXI

The fickle one
Obama /Reed?
Last week it was Kathleen Sebelius

When all you care about it being on the winning side, at one time or another everyone will be the choice

Next week

Obama/Obama

"Obama's press conference from Paris in about 5 minutes."

Good time to take my book and head to a nice Mexican place for lunch....

Are they gonna be coming out with Obama 'O8 World Tour t-shirts? You know , a t-shirt with a list of all the places he has visited recently?

VP gossip:

Yesterday huffpo was saying Hagel wanted to be Bo # 2, and also McAuliffe was backing Tim Kaine for Bo VP

McCain and Pawlenty.

Julie

They could close it with:

Jan 20th, 2009 ....The White House in Washington D.C.

This is a a picture of a doomed man. Poor John Edwards, you just couldn't leave it alone even after they told you, you were being watched.

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/update_john_edwards_affair_criminal_complaint_filed/celebrity/65209

I rather like the fact that Obama is traveling around Europe and the Middle East. It shows he is willing to listen and offer his vision for the direction of our country and for improving international relations. I think saying he wants to be the leader of the Earth is a bit exaggerated! I think he understands the power of the Presidency and if he wins the election, he will have to work closely with many leaders of many countries. Since he is not well known on the international stage, this gives him the opportunity to introduce himself. Saying that other countries must be more accountable in the fight against terrorism, for example, sends a strong message that he promises better relations with the United States and also expects better cooperation mutually among the various leaders.

I don't know, but I can't really see where this is negative (??) !!

I feel sorry for the Mexican place. Thank you. I'll be here all night. Tip your waitress.

Maybe you should change your name to Mr. Comedy?

obamalama european victory tour ?
over confidence' arrogance' under-estimating
your opponent' three major mistakes
made in any campaign'' anyone remember
napolean''' custer'' tom brady
seems obama is starting to believe his own hype
he is a 1st term senator and presumptive
democratic nominee for president '' thats it

So ET, was this the Obama listening Tour? Where have I heard that before?

Hey EuroTom,

If you come in thinking that Obama is somehow "arrogant", which is a classic term given black men who are confident in their abilities and don't avert their eyes, then you think Obama is running for the President of the Earth. Now, I don't seem to remember any objections when people would refer to the President as the "Leader of the Free World", but hey, they didn't look like Obama then did they? So that's why you get these comments about Obama.

BHO had 200K screaming cheering Germans at his speech yesterday. WOW!!! To bad they can't vote in our election. But you know the part of the speech where they didn't cheer, was when BHO said Europe will have to help fight the terrorists. There was no applause, no cheering, only dead silence.

Maybe you should change your name to Mr. Comedy?

Posted by: Corey |

Yeah, but...........

And.....

whatever............

Any geeks in here no anything about this new browser called Flock?

As for this Obama being an arrogant dumb fuck talk, I doubt there would be any complaints were it John McCain in front of 200,000 Germans, giving the same speech.

"If you come in thinking that Obama is somehow "arrogant", which is a classic term given black men who are confident in their abilities "

MD
lol
Uppity is the traditional term you are searching for.

A black man is called arrogant because....... well because he is perceived to be arrogant. Not a traditional put down at all.

Jack

yeah, but............mccain's also an arrogant DF

No people are joking about McCain giving a speech in Berlin, NH in front of 20 people, and then laughing at his own jokes.

do we have to have a double standard where one cannot say anything negative or funny about Obama but it's OK to call McCain McBush or joke about him and GHWB in a golf cart looking like escapees from an assisted living facility.

yes.........dont forget the arrogance of Harry Belafonte, Bill Cosby, and Richard Pryor.....well damn that could be a long list of accomplished black men whom people dismiss as arrogant......

I don't think of McCain being very arrogant. Now that idiot he just got rid of Phil Gramm, now there is a man with a boat load of arrogance.

Jack

jamie - Thanks for the Der Spiegel link. I got a kick out of this: "On Friday the German press sifts through the text and subtext of Obama's speech." They sifted through the marshmallow fluff to find the cotton candy?

I have to wonder about the American flags in the crowd, too. Handed out by his staffers? Held by folks planted in the crowd by team BO? Amercian ex-pats, not Europeans? Oh, well. As Jon Stewart said on TDS, at least the flags were broken, (i.e., not on fire).

Of course he was playing to the crowd at home. Like I said this morning, you stand next to someone short, you look tall by comparison. You go to Europe, you seem uber-American.

If McCain was in front off 200,000 Germans yesterday, it probably would have violated the fire department's code for that restaurant yesterday! LOL!

McCain is not necessarily arrogant so much as sdo.
Senile dementia onset.

Our options, the Senile dementia Onset devil you know or the Arrogant DF devil you don't really know.

Not much of a choice

julie

I wasn't searching for uppity, because they are synonyms. Arrogant is just the modern equivalent.

far as Im concerned mccain could be the arrogant poster boy......but that's just me......

I don't recall any of them being called arrogant. Except maybe Cosby and that was by other AAs.

Jack

jack.....

and there you have it........

"I wasn't searching for uppity, because they are synonyms"

Only in your mind.
So you are projecting you prejudices on to Tom.

It appears to be your disease that is the problem.

Jack

It's seems that much of the Republican complaints about Obama's coverage or this trip is tinged in jealousy in the fact that their candidate doesn't engender the same energy or positive vibrations.

How ridiculous is it that McCain goes to a sausage house while Obama is in Germany?

RNC running anti Obama ads in American cities named Berlin?

These smack of desperation and leave me with an impression that McCain isn't taking this very seriously. He seems to be campaigning like he should be handed the job...that he's entitled to it. Say what you will about Obama, at least he's working his ass of to get it.

Craig, is there a shotgun wedding in your future?

This comes from a man named "whiskyjack". Have another drink, Jack. Maybe you'll find a moment of clarity.

Re: McCain dimentia (or some other ailment) - Which is why it might up being president-from-central-casting Romney & the personable-even-if-you-don't-like-his-stance-on-issues Huckabee.

Was just listening to BHO today, seems like he is stuck on the word, "uh", as he is using it every other word. Somebody give the boy some vitamins, he is not doing so well today without his prepared teleprompter speech. Wake up there BHO the world is watching.

"It's seems that much of the Republican complaints about Obama's coverage or this trip is tinged in jealousy in the fact that their candidate doesn't engender the same energy or positive vibrations"

Bear
What the Republicans have to understand some things just aren't news. Dog bites man isnt' news.

McCain going on a fact finding trip to Europe or the middle east isn't news he does it all the time.

But Obama with a passport? Now that is news.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
;-0
Jack

OK... I'm an American citizen, under 30, I got a college degree, a lousy employment history, strong work ethic (ironically), a few grand in my pocket (no debt), a old truck on its last legs, a kayak, a bike, a guitar, and nowhere specific to be. Yes, I count my blessings every day.

I was considering Oregon, North Carolina, and Hawaii. Any other recommendations? I need natural beauty and a decent job and I'm golden.

Don't want to talk about your prejudices LOL

Gotcha
LOL

Jack

Bear wrote: "How ridiculous is it that McCain goes to a sausage house while Obama is in Germany"?

Ridiculous, heck, it was hysterically funny. His scheduler has a wicked sense of humor.

Jackson Hole, Wyo.

Champ

what do you do?

Jack

Fry

Did you call him UH-UH-bama? Or am I uh putting uh umm words in your mouth?

Blue

It kept him in the news cycle that was what he needed.

Jack

Blue,

No kidding...now I'm sitting here wondering if they sell Kielbasa at a German sausage house...looks like we have a lunch idea!

Hey, FD! Yeah, the shining one doesn't do well with extemp; definitely a reader. No wonder he's afraid to debate McCain. Can't manage his image that way.
His trip sure has managed to keep the media from really getting into the issues with either of them. The media just loves shiny objects.

I was considering Oregon, North Carolina, and Hawaii. Any other recommendations? I need natural beauty and a decent job and I'm golden.

Posted by: champ | July 25, 2008 1:04 PM

But are you cute?

Anything you'll pay me to do.

Champ,
I have a second shift job opening in Leominster, MA if you like factory work. But I don't think Leominster is going to do the natural beauty thing for you. The White Mtns aren't to awful far away.

Depends on who you ask.

How ridiculous is it that McCain goes to a sausage house while Obama is in Germany?

Posted by: Bear | July 25, 2008 12:57 PM

It's simple Bear. McCain is suffering from sausage envy... :-)

I played Leominster with the snake man......Leominster won................

What are you guys making?

champ - Boulder, CO is great, but not sure what the job market is like up there.

bear - Brats, yes. Kielbasa, dunno...I think that's Polish but maybe. I had a vegetarian Indian marsala TV dinner.

was it the "Buttercup" in Leominster......coulda been Lunenberg.....

Champ I was just playing. Oregon is in what I consider the most beautiful region of the mainland, the Pacific Northwest. It's very progressive on the western side and extremely right wing once you are on the eastern side, same thing in Washington State.

Washington state is a cultural paradise! and nature, and so many beautiful amenities! Great music scene, progressive politics, excellent higher education, and the birthplace of grunge and the development of furthering independent music.

Cheers,

Oh yeah, got a picture?

ET ;-)

Yeah, I've been to Boulder, didn't like the culture. Pearl Street rubbed me the wrong way. Central and Western Colorado is beautiful, though.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/07/obama-goes-global.html#comment-120197

Ok guys, you could watch that YouTube video and offer a comment or two.

I heard Denver has a new zoo........they put a fence around Boulder.

ba-dump bump

Should be no problem getting guns and weed then, lol... just kidding, Big Brother.

And no, you're creepin' me out. Thanks for the perspective, though. I appreciate it.

A good movie to see if you want to get the flavor of Washington. Just make sure you like rain.

Reality Bites
http://www.realitybitesdvd.com/

or:
South Coast - Venice Beach
http://www.far-flung.co.uk/california/south-coast/venice-beach.htm

"Say what you will about Obama, at least he's working his ass of to get it."

He has? You mean he is continuing to do his Europe traveling road show. Poor guy can't even answer Katie Couric's question about his vote on the surge, which she had to ask him 4 times. And this was a simple question dealing with the outcome of the American surge which Obama was against. He finally gave a very convoluted answer.

"Couric: And I really don't mean to belabor this, Senator, because I'm really, I'm trying … to figure out your position. Do you think the level of security in Iraq would exist today without the surge?"

"Obama: Katie, I have no idea what would have happened had we applied my approach, which was to put more pressure on the Iraqis to arrive at a political reconciliation. So this is all hypotheticals. What I can say is that there's no doubt that our U.S. troops have contributed to a reduction of violence in Iraq. I said that-- not just today, not just yesterday, but I've said that-- previously. What that doesn't change is that we've got to have a different strategic approach if we're going to make America as safe as possible."

The only person dealing in hypotheticals, is BHO. He is trying to defend an idea that never happen, and can't give credit to the surge which did happen. What does this say about someone who can't admit they were wrong.

Champ,

We make books. We start with rolls or sheets of paper. We print, fold and bind books. Go to a Barnes & Nobel look at the Microsoft books, most of them were made here.

Go to the remainder section, look for the Obama book....just kidding.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/07/obama-goes-global.html#comment-120111

Patsi: In my last job, I was so happy I could give items to our Local Brighton Center to help women .. the biggest was 3 skids of everyday things people need .. There were ironing boards, closet organizers, cloth pins & lines, etc ... They were so overwhelmed that we were giving them to them .. I told them, if I have anything else in the future, I'd give them a call .. I went on to donate paint, shelving, etc .. it was the highlight of my job as a RTV Clerk at Lowe's .. of course, Lowe's didn't like the idea .. when my manager found out what I'd done, he yelled at me. SO, I talked to the Rep of the company & he had his Big Boss call mine to explain they whole heartly encourage us to donate when ever possible ...

I've made a few books by hand before...

sturg....
yes.... the Buttercup was in Lunenburg..... it's the town I grew up in....
that club was torn down about 10 yrs ago to make way for a bank.....

champ..... I've been to Hawaii 3 times..... it's beautiful!..... but also very expensive..... whatever you choose..... good luck....

Fry.... good to see you here again.....

Bow,

Did you call him UH-UH-bama? Or am I uh putting uh umm words in your mouth?

The enlighten one will find more "UHs". The enlighten one is after all the enlighten one. He is BHO.

"Tip your waitress. "

You assume much, Mr. Oink. It was a waiter, and I tipped him very well.

A picture of arrogance from google image search

http://texasholdemblogger.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/arrogance-reid.jpg

Karo, I have begged you to stop throwing your racist family in the mix. We don't care what sort of upbringing you had.

Posted by: Patsi | July 25, 2008 10:15
================

Patsi: She can't help herself ... She'd rather label ALL people who are not worshiping BHO as racist ... I see farther down, when she answered you, she had to throw in a few more states as being racist ... sad, when ideas That are NOT the same, labeled as racist ....

Bow.

Local Barnes & Noble in Kansas City now promoting BO book as well now Pelosi has one out too. LOL

julie

"I doubt there would be any complaints were it John McCain in front of 200,000 Germans, giving the same speech."

That's BS, Bear and you know it. I was only surprised that Obama didn't stride out singing "I Got 99 Problems but a Bitch Ain't One."

TY RR.

I know this is a bit early, but when do the leaves start to turn in the Granite State?

"SO, I talked to the Rep of the company & he had his Big Boss call mine to explain they whole heartly encourage us to donate when ever possible ..."

Very cool, Viv -- took some nerve too!

Oh Patsi, for as many times as you've referenced Jay Z, I'd think you have it playing in your own car. Maybe we should retitle it: "I Got 99 Problems, but Patsi Ain't One"?

Blue,

"The media just loves shiny objects."

That's pretty funny. LOL. I am really biting my tongue thinking about a quote on shiny objects.

The day after the election how will the MSM explain/report BHO's defeat?

Julie,

Is it "The Rise of Barack Obama" that they are promoting? It is a mostly picture book. If that is the one, we printed the book in my plant and did the hardcover binding in our sister plant.

Or maybe you're angling to do a writer for hire book with Jay Z and this is your way to win favor?

FryDaddy,

That's a story that will never be written. Just like you'll never admit you were wrong when Obama wins.

Fry,

Go to this link, you will get all the leaf peeping information for NH you need.

http://foliage.visitnh.gov.ns1www.silvertech.net/index-flash.html

Don't you have a feeling that the people behind McCain have just stopped trying. They have a candidate who can't give a speech. He doesn't have a base. I thinks Iraq is bordered by Pakistan. He's now falling back on that old "my opponent wants defeat" argument. And he's standing in front of a tossed out NFL backdrop. I swear he's John Major before Labour took over the British government. Sad.

"Don't you have a feeling that the people behind McCain have just stopped trying."

What do Repubs know about Obama's past? Could be that they are just waiting to rip Obama apart. He deserves it - BO has lied to Dems about almost everything.

putting everything into a racial context
typical obama tactic

Is this the Obama book?

http://www.oldcoin.com.au/27nazid.jpg

Very cool, Viv -- took some nerve too!

Posted by: Patsi | July 25, 2008 1:56
======

Patsi: Not really ... I've done stuff like that before ... though, this was the first time I was yelled at for it ... I remember once, when after 3 weeks of debits being held for inventory, one Vendor rejected a large amount of defective purses .. I wrote them a letter explaining why there were so m any & then went on to explain that these style were the most popular, so of course their returns amounts would be higher ...

They sent a Rep to the Buyer, Liz & they came down to see me .. Liz was alittle bit upset that I didn't call her first , but the Rep thought it was gutsy for me to send that letter .. I just laughed at them & told Liz .. this is what you hired me for .. to get as much credit as possible ... soo, what's wrong with trying over & over & over to get it ... I also use to call again in a few days, if my RA was rejected, hoping to get a different person & most times, got the credit .. lol

^ (whispering) "It's a copy of 'Rise and Fall of the Third Reich'"

^ (whispering) "nazi"

Security Guard Who Rescued John Edwards From The Bathroom Details His Heroics To FOX

"The Beverly Hilton Hotel guard said he encountered a shaken and ashen-faced Edwards ... in a hotel men's room early Tuesday morning in a literal tug-of-war with reporters on the other side of the door.

"What are they saying about me?" the guard said Edwards asked.

"His face just went totally white," the guard said, when Edwards was told the reporters were shouting out questions about Edwards and Rielle Hunter, a woman the National Enquirer says is the mother of his child."

http://hillbuzz.blogspot.com/2008/07/security-guard-who-rescued-john-edwards.html

Hitler- Global ambitions
Obama- Global ambitions

Hitler- Wooed Germans
Obama- Wooed Germans

Hitler-Dictator
Obama-Puppet

...ok, maybe you got me there.

Bow,

Yes that is the book you printed that is here in B& n store. They are promoting to all online customers.
I am going Sunday , will look at it. Not buying though.
Want to see what Pelosi book is about also. Interesting that she has one out same time as BO.

julie

Champ

Don't forget

Hitler was a paperhanger

Obama was a ??????????

Did Obama ever have a real job?

Jack

i suppose that depends on your opinion of the legal profession.

don't forget obama was a community organizer'''whatever that means

sturge1 & Jack,
with regard to comments about mr. craig's "objectivity" earlier. umbrages being pretty rare here in the a.m., i wanted to apologize if i took more than my fair share, short changing you guys; but i can see it's a renewable source come afternoons. we seem to have an abundance now so feel free to take as many as one wants. in fact i'll take another at mr. d calling gordo a weirdo (at least gordo's link today was from this planet, good behavior should be rewarded) and calling our host a snide remarker.

Jack,

Thought his real job "campaigning for office".
Since he never held a position long enough to stop running for office for something else instead of doing the job he was elected to do.

Julie

If I'm wrong and our elections are legitimate, then I thin "National Buffoon's European Vacation" will prove to be a major strategic blunder.

Mr. D,
"That's a story that will never be written."

You may be right about that. I only say that because the MSM knows when they do write about his defeat, team BHO will play the race card. There will be no other way to explain how the youthful, good looking, sometimes articulate teleprompter aided, well educated, one with a sparse resume, lacking any meaningful experience, why a person of color didn't win the election. It has to be because of his race? That will be the story feed to MSM by BHO people for his defeat come this November. Chris Matthews has already said as much. It is always racist when it doesn't favor the enlighten one. No BHO, it is far much simpler than that, you just aren't qualified.

The enlighten one is seen by many of his supporters as the new Messiah, but he is really the new "Messi-Uh"

The great orator without his teleprompter. Is it no wonder he doesn't want to debate McCain in a town hall setting? How would he maneuver that teleprompter?

OBAMA: Uh, uh, are, uh, uh, uh, um. That's -- that's a bunch -- so -- so let me tick these off. Deh... Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, um, uh. So the issue is not a perception that, uh... Weh, weh, let me put it this way. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, We're -- we're trying to -- you know, we've got a bipartisan group here and -- and -- and, uh, uh, uh, uh, um, uh, uh, uh.

I saw a great t-shirt today. It read:

My parents said I could be anything I wanted. So I became an ass.

there will be a backlash from obamalama's
european trip''
mccain's is in ohio talking to every day hard working
taxpaying americans
obama is in europe trying to be a rock star

The other things I saw were these little tins that were in the shape of the Band-Aid brand metal tins. They had a slot on the top to put coins into them. One of the tins said: I'm saving up to buy more weed! Forget touchdowns, all I wanna score is more drugs!
Near the slot on top of the tin were the words: Insert drug money here.

Now Jamie,
You really shouldn't say
lol lol
sorry I tried to suppress the laughter. I just couldn't help myself.

I noticed Craig is staying away, must be scared of you mean women.

Grin duck and run
Jack

patd

don't worry we have a discount store across the street.
UMBRAGES R US,

We can grab one quick if we need one, cheap too.

Jack

Not sure if I would be boasting who the Europeans would like to see as POTUS. You may recall during the last election the European's support for John Kerry didn't do him much good.

I sort of feel sorry for poor little BHO, his European road trip and Camp La La are over with, and now he'll have to come back to the USA. "Oh gee do I have to go back? I could just as well stay here and play leader of the world." Chin-up there little buckaroo, it will all be over with soon. There is always the Senate you can go back to and take up where you left off doing nothing.

The other t-shirt I saw said:

It's such a beautiful day, maybe I'll surprise everyone and skip my medication.

Jim Braude in Boston said that when Obamas eoro trip is over he will be back to being the common man meeting with toothless people in Oklahoma to show that he is a man of the people.

did obama's campaign forget that he lost
nine out of the last twelve primaries
not only lost but badly'because he can't
connect with average everyday americans
he's doing the exact opposite of what he
shoud be doing' mccain has the right idea

Hey is Obama's campaign footing the entire bill or are the American taxpayers on the hook for this trip? Just asking.

Bowman

A bit of both. the parts that involve the Congressional Delegation are on the taxpayer's dime. The speechifying part is Team Obama. Not sure how they will rule on the meetings with heads of state or that Obama faking Air Force One plane.

FD

I wouldn't count on it. McCain is just looking too disconnected from the real world. He has a loyal base and hard core hawks, but that is about it.

You and Champ were double teaming on the true meaning of "Arrogant"

Is this the Obama book?

http://www.oldcoin.com.au/27nazid.jpg
Posted by: champ | July 25, 2008 2:23 PM

I am sorry, but I find this utterly pedantic and lacking intelligence. Number one, it's not true and number two, any non-aryans who would WANT to be a member of the Third Reich would have been dealt with in the brutal efficiency of their "administration".

Of course if you aren't satisfied, we can resurrect the McCarthyite era's Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC)

"Senator Obama are you NOW or have you ever BEEN a member of The Nazi Party?"

I know the post was likely a joke, but it's just not funny.

What did that plane say Air America????

Not sure if I would be boasting who the Europeans would like to see as POTUS. You may recall during the last election the European's support for John Kerry didn't do him much good.

-snip-

Posted by: FryDaddy | July 25, 2008 3:15 PM

Those uppity Europeans! How DARE they express interest in the U.S. elections? HORRORS! The leader of the USA has ABSOLUTELY NO affect on THEIR lives anyway, and their role is to remain subservient to U.S. interests anyway.

I saw a great t-shirt today. It read:

My parents said I could be anything I wanted. So I became an ass.

Posted by: Corey | July 25, 2008 2:58 PM

Corey I think the favorite T-shirt I ever saw was when I was visiting San Francisco. In one of the trendy t-shirt shops I found a cute "tourist" shirt. It said, and I am not making this up:

"MY BROTHER WAS SODOMIZED IN SAN FRANCISCO AND ALL I GOT WAS A T-SHIRT".

Eurotom

"their role is to remain subservient to U.S. interests anyway."

Works for me.

Jack

oops
Forgot

Correction:

Works for me. :-P

Jack

"Hey is Obama's campaign footing the entire bill or are the American taxpayers on the hook for this trip? Just asking."

Well, it was a political trip and he did decline public financing so I figure his campaign should pick up the tab.

I hope it doesn't take an FOI to find out if it did.

Not overseas with Congressional Delegations

Dolt

heheheheheh

Jack !

I can tell you that up til Bush-tard was selected Prez, the Europeans I knew in The Netherlands and Belgium held America and Americans in high regard. Some Belgians have even said to me "of course we love America. You guys saved us... twice!" What is interesting is the fact that the first "rescue" of Belgium was a food drive organized and administered by Herbert Hoover! Yes Herbert Hoover!! The Belgians LOVED him:

The son of a Quaker blacksmith, orphaned at an early age, Hoover achieved international success as a mining engineer and world-wide gratitude as “The Great Humanitarian” who fed war torn Europe during and after World War I. In the process he developed a unique philosophy - one balancing responsibility for the welfare of others with an unshakable faith in free enterprise and dynamic individualism. In time this would lead him to feed a billion people in 57 countries.

http://www.rememberinghoover.be/

As appreciative the Europeans are for America's role in protecting their continent, they are also proud people and if other lands try to bully them, they will stand firm. The idea that their gratitude for U.S. sacrifice means they should ask "how high" when the American government tells them to "jump" only insults them and their sense of cultural and National pride.

BBC on Obama German visit and election coverage

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7523892.stm

Non political interesting stuff

DNA testing for the Abominable Snowman?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7525060.stm

Obama's path to presidency is far from clear

"Fresh polls show that he has been unable to convert weeks of extensive media coverage into a widened lead. And some prominent Democrats whose support could boost his campaign are still not enthusiastic about his candidacy.

Several new surveys show that Obama is in a tight race or even losing ground to Republican John McCain, both nationally and in two important swing states, Colorado and Minnesota. One new poll offered a possible explanation for his troubles: A minority of voters see Obama as a familiar figure with whom they can identify.

Obama also faces discontent from some of Hillary Rodham Clinton's most ardent supporters, who are put off by what they describe as a campaign marked by hubris and a style dedicated to televised extravaganzas."

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-challenges25-2008jul25,0,1054470.story

more on hit and run
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/24/AR2008072402099.html

Uh Fry Daddy, I think you're confusing Barack with Hillary's supporters, who all claimed sexism for her demise, instead of the ineptitude of her campaign. But regardless, Barack is going to win, so no need to go over that scenario.

As for Jamie, you continue your "I hold my nose to vote for Obama as I disparage him in the same comment". Thanks, but you get no credit for your sacrifice.

Again with the mind reading.

I didn't say I would be holding my nose. Having the Democrats in power is a good thing. I just think we could do better and I hope he picks a great cabinet and ships Axelrod to Greenland. We don't need another Rove.

"Obama also faces discontent from some of Hillary Rodham Clinton's most ardent supporters, who are put off by what they describe as a campaign marked by hubris and a style dedicated to televised extravaganzas."

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-challenges25-2008jul25,0,1054470.story "
Gordo,

How dare you post something from a major main stream source?

Nice thoughtful King. Bus service tends to be so erratic.

Of course there won't be a joint press conference with Britain's Prime Minister. Smart PM

"more on hit and run"

Thanks for that link, patd...

Flatus

I can see myself in the LATimes article with this comment:

""The Clinton supporters that I know are bothered by these rock-star events. These spectacles are more about the candidate than they are about the party and the issues that we care about."

"Thanks, but you get no credit for your sacrifice. "

Is somebody keeping names so The People can be divided into groups according to their level of support, one the Chosen One is in Power?

Don't worry, Patsi. No one cares enough to put you on any list.

please excuse my grotesque interruption:

Isn't the Obama campaign the most successful in history at
a. raising money
b. getting media coverage both state side and globally
c. record setting new voter registrations

So the problem is ??? He is successful? or that people don't like that he is so successful?

"""The Clinton supporters that I know are bothered by these rock-star events. These spectacles are more about the candidate than they are about the party and the issues that we care about." Posted by: Jamie | July 25, 2008 4:55 P

Ditto!

I don't know any Clinton supporter - people I know don't think she is running.

Yeah UB. All this competence is absolutely arrogant. Doing things like expanding the electoral map so we're not locked into the same trap door that sank Al Gore and Kerry, arrogant!

They'd like him a lot better if he was in debt, got McCain like press coverage, and had a terrible ground game. That way, he could fit their poor, incompetent black man vision they have.

Hillary Clinton is the new Lost Cause. I'll bet that we'll soon see tours of Hillary primary sites, like how Civil War re-enacters dress up and play army.

"Here's where good ole Scranton Hill slammed a shot of Jack and chased it with some Iron City!"

Well I see not all Europe is falling over themselves about the new Messi-Uh.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article4392846.ece

Champ,

I usually just lurk here but couldn't help but respond to your thinking of moving to NC.

If you're considering NC here are some things to think about: ( I could go on and on)

Check out the figures for what % of the county is on medicaid. I believe NC still requires the counties to supplement the State's costs. This may be ending soon. If not, it is the cause of high taxes in many counties and results in a lot less spent on schools, roads, etc. in the county budgets.

Find a place where there have always been a significant number of people who are not natives of NC. There are a lot areas of the state where you'll have a hard time being accepted if"You're not from around here" unless you're planning to build a $1million dollar home or do a lot of business with a local contractor. Then you might not be accepted, but they'll accept your money.

If you're from the north get ready to be called a Yankee from time to time, and not in a friendly manner.My local paper regularly has columns derogatory to people from the north as if its funny and that celebrate the redneck life of big ol' trucks, etc. Check out the local papers, they'll tell you a lot in a short time.

I'd recommend renting for a time before buying a home in NC. If you're "not from around here" it can be difficult to sell your home in some areas. There are areas where the locals like to wait until you just move out and you're ready to sell cheap.

The county vehicle taxes are very high and if you live in a town or city you pay higher than if you live outside the town limits.

Lot of drug problems here, different drugs in different areas of the state. Its pretty blatant and unchecked in many, many areas. Lots of associated crimes.

Check weather.gov. for pollution levels over time. Lots of code red and orange in certain areas of the state. If you live below the mountains you look up and think, "wow, I don't want to be breathin' that!" If you're on the mountain, you look down and think the same. So you move to within 3 hours of the coast and a hurricane buzzsaws its way through your area and for three years after the lgging trucks are running people off the road removing the fallen trees.

If you've always enjoyed the company of people of diverse racial, ethnic and religious backgrounds choose your area of NC carefully. You could be shunned for this.

Do you have any ancestors buried in NC? This could be a great help to you, especially if they're 3-4 generations removed. It would be to your benefit if you have a common last name, one that's easy to pronounce and doesn't announce you're not fom around here.

I'm sure there are many fine places to live in NC. You just have to find them. Unfortunately, we didn't have a choice in the area we're in and we've found we're on what we call "the wrong side of the river". Just across the river there are more people who "ain't from around here" and its like a whole different world. There's more acceptance in every regard.

We'd move back to MI in a heartbeat if we thought we could adapt to driving on snow and ice again and survive -40 windchills and shoveling snow. Too old for that now!

Of course there's no perfect place to live but the lessons we've learned have been very painful and costly and we wish someone would have given us info like this before we decided to move here.

Sorry this is so long. Good luck to you Champ!

From the daily gallup analysis

Now, on the basis of a strong showing in Thursday night's Gallup interviewing, Obama is back to a 6-point margin over McCain. On Thursday Obama made his highly-anticipated speech to a crowd estimated to be larger than 200,000 in Berlin, Germany, and it is not implausible that it might have affected enough voters to move his overall advantage in the horse race tracking a few points. The drop off in Obama's support earlier this week, however, suggests caution in assuming that the trip will have any lasting impact on the structure of the race.

This means that the jury is still out until the tracking results through the weekend and into next week are monitored carefully. To signify a real difference in the support patterns of voters in the U.S., the data would either need to show a sustained 6-point plus lead for Obama over a number of days, or conversely, a sustained pattern by which John McCain moves into the lead (something he has not done since early June) and sustains that lead.

For those of you who follow the new Messi-Uh's genealogy: The enlighten-one's UK brother.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/article1472877.ece

"That way, he could fit their poor, incompetent black man vision they have. "

Moron.

Messi-Uh sends shivers up Matthews' leg.

No Patsi, I dont think moron is a good description of you. I think delusionally bitter old woman fits better.

Obama web site has a wealth of information on it regarding issues. Most people vote along their beliefs, if you generally agree with a candidates stances on issues then that is the candidate you support. Even if you don't like the way he/she speaks.....walks, succeeds....etc....I really don't know anyone who could vote against their own core beliefs based on any such reasons.

It appears as we get deeper into the campaign, the insults against Obama become more superficial.

Well duh

"the jury is still out until the tracking results "

UB,

Only their racial biases are deep rooted.

Mr D,

"Uh Fry Daddy, I think you're confusing Barack with Hillary's supporters, who all claimed sexism for her demise, instead of the ineptitude of her campaign."

Nope I'm talking about the race bating BHO team. The ones who didn't want to bring race into the primary unless it benefited them. HRC got hosed by the MSM and BHO's lackies.

Damn, that's a pretty harsh indictment against NC. Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

See Fry Daddy, Hillary supporters always playing the victim. It was the MEDIA! It was OBAMA!

Are all the nonsensical issues are just the smoke screen for the racial bias?

I sure hope that isn't case with the majority.

To whomever MR D is trying to bait:

Just ignore him.

http://www.latimes.com/features/food/la-fo-encore24-2008-jul24,0,6499726,full.story

This pie looks wonderful. How's that for superficial?

Or by knocking down your ridiculous statements. Other than that, you're 100 percent correct.

Schwarzenegger signs bill banning trans fats
By STEVE LAWRENCE, Associated Press Writer

Friday, July 25, 2008

(07-25) 13:19 PDT SACRAMENTO, (AP) --

California on Friday became the first state to prohibit restaurants from using artery-clogging trans fats in preparing their food.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/07/25/financial/f131911D70.DTL&tsp=1

If only we could an trans fatheads too

UB

"Obama web site has a wealth of information on it regarding issues"

All of which were probably written by someone else. For the record that would be true about positions statements on Sen. Clinton's site when she was running.

What we haven't seen yet is his ability to express those positions on his feet without the benefit of a teleprompter. Most of his debate performances were very weak though he was getting stronger the longer it went on. You can thank Sen. Clinton for that because she pushed him to be better and not be all slogans.

Lately he has slipped back into the cotton candy speeches. Until we see him in a debate with McCain, we won't know if he has internalized all of those issues in a way that he can contest an opposing viewpoint.

Fortunately, I believe that McCain will be a weaker opponent that Hillary was.

In this election race can be identified by sight....there is no way on earth , it can't be considered a viable issue....or not be taken into consideration....... same goes for gender....and age....

Just got back from seeing Mama Mia! I loved it. I couldn't understand all the bad review. It made me smile and cry. Lots of emotions hit me unexpectedly. Has anyone else seen it yet beside Craig.?

Is there a Godwin's Law version for people who throw out the "racist" crap about anyone who disagrees with them or doesn't shout hosannah loudly enough when Sen. Obama's name is mentioned.

Jeez just have the Pope declare him a saint now. It will save time.

don't understand why so many people still are racists...I am hoping as more younger people become active in employment, and positions of power, and as voters....racism will diminish more quickly and become a thing of the past

Terrorism? LOL

Hey UB,

I think that's been one of the refreshing things about this Obama campaign. Younger (under 45) voter have been really open about Obama. They haven't held all of the weird notions about why whites should be over blacks. And I think that mindset is a great indicator that race, at least in this particular instance, will lessen. Now, there are many, many other areas where race is a factor. And we'll have to chip away at those places.

Pricks like you make me want to become more racist.

Champ, you forget. That wouldn't make you unusual. As for Bernard being a Manchester United fan, this makes me like him even more! Go Red Devils!

Oh come on... I'll bet you ridiculed GWB for exploiting the terrorism theme, and now that BHO is flying that flag, you're all about it. What's next, constant invocations of 9/11?

5?

Divided Loyalites, Obama’s Eligibility Problem — Part 1

"Article II of the Constitution of the United States DOES NOT mean what almost everybody thinks that it means. ...it ISN’T talking about WHERE the POTUS is born.

No, the Framers were talking about Allegiance, Loyalty. The POTUS had to have only ONE Allegiance.

There is no way a person who has Dual Citizenship, or who has had Dual Citizenship, should be eligible under Article II. As you will see in Part Two there is good evidence that Senator Barack Obama is such a person, that Governor Bill Richardson may also be and that Senator John McCain is not. By definition NATURAL BORN = BORN IN THE (SOLE) ALLEGIANCE OF THE USA, not born on US Soil.

The whole First Part of this Article cites Case Law, Sources, Precedent and gives the opinion of Lawyers. The Chief Counsel for the INS has said that this argument is Valid, he doesn’t like it, but he admits it is true."

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/divided-loyalites-obamas-eligibility-problem-part-1/

Yes Mr D, I see it with my friends, and my children all teens ( 2 voters), they don't even consider race an issue at all, they never have...so to them it's just politics....the process...they also don't think anything about a woman running...that just seems normal to them....This is their first exposure to a Presidential campaign, before they didn't care ( too young). A great one to cut their teeth on, at that!

It is promising indeed.! : )

Patsi

Sarah Lee has a frozen mixed fruit pie like the one you showed, slightly tart and absolutely delicious.

Dang Champ. I was hoping you'd go for a 7, just so you could hang with Patsi.

I'll hang with anybody if they're cool. I just ain't down with the thought police. And 'white' people aren't the only types of people capable of being racist, ya know.

Previewing the goodie bags at the Democratic Party Convention

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/7/25/155940/305

"*fist bumps MD*

LOL"

Get a room, boys.

"Sarah Lee has a frozen mixed fruit pie like the one you showed, slightly tart and absolutely delicious."

Excellent. Thanks for the tip, Jamie... I'd always rather buy a pie than make one!

UB, didn't you once say you'd never even been around blacks? Isn't that pretty racist?

...hence the term 'race-baiting'

Well Mr. D was bound to come up with something I liked. "Go Red Devils"

I would bet that Obama supports what is on his site, and that he will, if given the chance, as president fill the cabinet and other support positions with people who also believe along those same lines...

I think that is basically the bottom line....whether he stumbles and falls along the way or not......he still has my vote because I share his positions on most issues...

It's the best I can hope for, and it appears he may just win.....After the last 7+ years I am excited to see a change. I really detest the current administration, and as I watched the Judicial Committee hearing today it solemnly reminded me why.

He doesn't like "White Devils"? What a racist!

Well, his speech in Berlin certainly gave the New World Order crowd plenty of fodder.

I was in CA....we were in a racially mixed neighborhood....then transferred....by way of work to Texas...the most racists place I have ever lived.

It's not where you live that makes you racists it's what you believe in your heart of hearts....and what you do in your life. I have been re-examining my life....here's an old post of mine...

http://unlikelyburrito.blogspot.com/2008/07/lately-i-have-been-asking-myself-about.html

It's coming.

Sorry folks but Obama cannot be leader of the earth. That job is already taken.

It is J. R. "bob" Dobbs of the Church of the Sub-Genius

http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/fistclutch.html

Ignore at your own peril!

Wow, sounds like your a real blast to have at a party.

Feeling frustrated that it's a long way until January

Try This:

http://www.mousebreaker.com/games/punchpresident/play.php

You don't have any black friends because you're afraid after associating with them you might be as racist as you suspect. Just a thought.

"Frozen pies, ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww"

A tattooed drug dealer's pathetic attempt to look classy.

Now now, Patsi.

If you think 'white' people are racist, hang out with Asians for more than 15 minutes. Chinese restaurants don't count.

LOL Jamie, literally. g1.

Bowmanc; 9:29 am.... Obama doesn't run his campaign, Axlerod does. Obama can't even speak without a teleprompter.

To Those It may Concern;.... Just like I said when he forgot to protect his daughters from the media, I knew he would forget to secure the US as soon as some foreign leader patted him on the head - I was right - he forgot the "bravest and the best" who were in hospital in Germany. You know, it's just because he's trying too hard to be GOD.......

MSNBC -the official home of Obama love- tells a different story about the troop visit.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/24/1220011.aspx

Hey all
I didn't like Sen. John Kerry just like i don't like Sen. Obama.I voted for Kerry because i was a Democrat.I wasn't blogging at the time but talked about all his negatives with a lot of friends and family.I am not a Democrat anymore but have decided to vote for Obama here in Florida because the elections here are close and i don't want McCain ever!!! Just how does being criticle of Sen. Obama and his show off self make me a bitter Republican racist???Its a very scary tactic labeling people with such slams just to get people to fall in line and shut up.......Sounds like your "either with us or your with the terrorists"...Very Bush like and Nasty..

Pura Vida peeps!!

Things are good down in Costa Rica. As I am catching more waves than I am episodes of Hard Ball, etc.

But every once and awhile I will be around Fox News or CNN International.

Hope all is well Stateside.

This article is interesting...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080725/ap_on_el_ge/israel_obama_s_note;_ylt=Ak1vLJ1KjlOyepRrVbd3g7hsnwcF

Probably should not have been made public. But I think it speaks volumes.

Hasta Luego!

Fry,

You know this is all about stirring up controversy, nothing else matters. Guaranteed, if there was an ant hill around you know who would give it a good hard kick just to see the ants go crazy.

Nobody cares about Obama's extended family, especially the poor excuses for journalists.

When the Saint's go Marching In, should be his theme song.

We are trav'ling in the footsteps
Of those who've gone before,
And we'll all be reunited,
On a new and sunlit shore,

Oh, when the saints go marching in
Oh, when the saints go marching in
Lord, how I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in

And when the sun refuse to shine
And when the sun refuse to shine
Lord, how I want to be in that number
When the sun refuse to shine

And when the moon turns red with blood
And when the moon turns red with blood
Lord, how I want to be in that number
When the moon turns red with blood

Oh, when the trumpet sounds its call
Oh, when the trumpet sounds its call
Lord, how I want to be in that number
When the trumpet sounds its call

Some say this world of trouble,
Is the only one we need,
But I'm waiting for that morning,
When the new world is revealed.

Auto parts. Well then now we know another contributor to the demise of the planet. We don't need any auto parts, they go in cars, cars burn gas, gas comes from oil, oil is bad. people that use oil are bad. Bad, Bad, bad.

"You don't have any black friends because you're afraid after associating with them you might be as racist as you suspect. Just a thought." - Champ

Actually, I think it is due to my busy schedule, and where I live. But as I said in my blog post , as I gain more free time, it is a goal of mine to at least get involved in discussions...Friends like any friends come in time and with shared experiences...

One thing I will say, is that women have an unspoken bond no matter what their race or age, I see that in the general public....It's a chick thing!

Speaking of extended family, anybody remember Billy Carter?

Billy Beer, peeing on a runway. I know this is really unfair, but I can't help myself.

http://beerconspiracy.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=52:Billy%20Carter&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=50

So if Obama is elected, will the Secret Service have to provide protection for his half family outside the United States? What is the possibility of kidnapping or extortion of his extended kin? What kind of response would there be? Blackhawk down anyone?

"Don't you use a rinse?"

I'm in one of my debating phases of letting it grow out to see if I have enough silver yet. Still too much dark hair, but I can't decide whether to go for my lost red highlights or that very popular "rich bitch blond".

That msnbc "First Read" really makes him sound bad and they usually grovel in his footsteps.

He couldn't bring press and photographers so he cancels the trip.

Watch out for those feelings. Especially the ones running up (or down) your leg.

Obama is sounding good in his CNN interview on now.

I like Candy Crowley. She keeps a pretty even keel when dealing with politicians.

A bit of information on Godwin's law by Mike Godwin himself.

Meme, Counter-meme
By Mike Godwin
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/2.10/godwin.if_pr.html

Jack

"Don't lie pissed, the Pentagon asked him not to visit the troops in Germany because they felt it was not appropriate since he was on the political leg of his trip. Then someone in the Pentagon leaked the story to the RNC. "

Not exactly---DOD official cautioned Obama's campaign that his planned visit to wounded American troops could not be political in nature & that he would be barred from bringing along campaign staff & reporters.

Obama was advised that he could only visit the military facility with his Secret Service detail & Senate staff.

"We made it clear to him that campaign staff & press would not be permitted to accompany him. We relayed those ground rules. They made a choice based upon the information we relayed to them. It was (Obama's) choice.

Team Obama tells a different story. Axelrod claimed the Pentagon 'viewed this as a campaign event & therefore they said he should not come'.

Obama's adviser Gibbs stopped short of saying they were told not to come but also suggested that even a visit by Obama alone may have been at issue. He said one of Obama's military advisers had been informed that the visit may be seen as a campaign stop.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0708/DoD_spokesman_says_Obama_camp_was_reminded_of_political_rules.html

Candy is a professional....I am glad they have kept her around.

Bill Clinton was the last president to get Secret Service for life.... so they have that going for them.

(take on caddyshack)

Team Obama addresses not visiting the troops

http://www.revver.com/video/112547/whirling-dervishes/

"Sounds like your "either with us or your with the terrorists"...Very Bush like and Nasty.."

I know Tony. But don't pay any attention to their BS.

Patsi, Obama didn't sing "99 Problems" when he was in Berlin. I believe he sang "99 Luft Balloons".

Warren! Good to know you're having a blast!!!!

Keith and Rachael look like twins, mannerisms and all ( bit of a age difference though)
----
Tony - did someone call you a bitter racists?

“Paintings are like a beer, only beer tastes good and it's hard to stop drinking beer.” - Billy Carter

God that's funny!

actually it's retarded - Patsi

but score one for the hillbillies

TGIF

Cocktail time. I think I'm going with the Hendrick's gin gimlet. Alicia where you? In any case a toast to you for starting the conversation about summer drinks.

Rachael Maddow should get her own show on teevee.
But I never like the idea of pairing her with Pat Buchanan. That would just e a reprise of the shortlived Dietl and Daniels show. (a horror)
http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2005/04/22/dietl-daniels-a-mess/

Maddow is way out Buchanan's league. He is too willing to repeat talking points he picks up on Drudge -he acknowledges Drudge is his go to site.

Burrito, try to keep up. The fact that it's completely moronic is what makes it funny. Christ.

Can't keep up with absurdities....however, I think that is a well honed skill for some.

Unfortunately, there are many absurdities from which to choose.

Time Warner to Present Politics 2008: Media Summit on Election of the PresidentWEBWIRE – Thursday, July 24, 2008
Event Co-Hosted by CNN and TIME at Time Warner Center on October 13 & 14

NEW YORK – Time Warner Inc. today announced that it will present Politics 2008 – The Media Summit on the Election of the President – a special event co-hosted by CNN and TIME on October 13 and 14, 2008 at the Time Warner Center in New York City.

For this two-day event, Time Warner is inviting leading media organizations and analysts, political insiders and pundits for a series of keynotes, conversations and panel events on topics ranging from the media’s roles and responsibilities in covering the campaign and election to how the digital revolution has changed the race for the White House.
http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=70768

The media in general sucks and now they want to have a conference to pat themselves on the back.
The media covered up for Shrub and the run up to the war, destroyed Kerry without cause and now that they've been exposed for the stupid gits they are, they are running around like chickens with their heads cut off (no offense to headless chickens.)

ROFL, KGC! Didn't you love this part?

"“Our challenge is to probe, analyze and present all the issues, while enabling our viewers and CNN.com users to participate actively with us in the process "

Most likely keeping millions busy everyday.

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KGC-
That is nothing more than event marketing....not a bad idea for Manhattan...since there are so many tourist that visit Time Warner Center every day....They will have an audience without even having to promote it.... A chance to promote their brand.

Patsi

When I first saw it, I thought I hope Craig Crawford gets invited but by the time I was done - I thought better if he stays far far away.

Man, you guys hate everything.

My personal favorite

"“Politics 2008 will present the perfect cross-section of ideas and information from our industry’s thought leaders,” says Victor Harwood, President of Digital Hollywood, Inc., producer of Politics 2008. “This kind of election is a once-in-a-lifetime event, and our challenge is to provoke thoughtful conversation and inspire leadership equal to the task.”

Thought leaders!

Be One.
http://www.digitalhollywood.com/Politics2008.html

I admit I hate the media so what.

What do you mean," so what? "

SO WHAT would you do to replace or change the media? There are so many media avenues....you mean to say you hate every media place you get your news.....???

Katherine,

I have a similar distaste for the media as well.

I would probably respect them more if they would at least admit their bias.

A word to the wise, ask where your jalapeno came from!

Off to the real chez cracker cocktail hour.

"Man, you guys hate everything."

Read your leader's talking points again. We are all bitter old racists.

Coreen

Yes! That would be a good start. See ya later.

"you guys hate everything"

Not everything, not home grown tamaters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nitgmAInI18

and yea, I liked the Billy Carter quote too.

Just another dumb ass redneck here.

Jack

"Man, you guys hate everything."

You asked others who don't respect you to ignore your posts. Now why don't you do the rest that same favor.
Everything that comes out of your mouth is a criticism.

Media is a business.. not a public service (unless on the PBS)

Patsi,
I am afraid that this "leader" crap you spew towards me is misdirected. I don't even follow a God.

I don't know what you are, nor do I try to categorizes you. That's not very interesting to me.

Speakin' of food

Texas cookin'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuTW8WFLXWY

Nanci Griffith & Friends : Desperadoes Waiting For A Train

Nanci with a stellar line up of friends:
Guy Clark (who wrote the song)
Jerry Jeff Walker
Steve Earle
Rodney Crowell
Jimmie Dale Gilmore
Eric Taylor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHbMpqpdKTM

Be nice - Be nice is anonymous chicken sh*t.

Nanci Griffith : Roseville Fair

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HT1lIyQbLw

Here's another take on media bias (Investors Business Daily is not liberal but the premise is hard to dispute).

"Putting money where mouths are: Media donations favor Dems 100-1"

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=301702713742569

"True to form journalists are defending their bias by saying that one candidate, Obama, is more newsworthy than the other. It is we, the hoi polloi, who reveal our bias by questioning the neutrality of these learned professionals in their ivory-towered newsrooms."

Looking at the amount of money journalists contributed so far this election cycle favors Democrats by a 15:1 ratio over Republicans, with $225,563 going to Dems vs. $16,298 to Reps.

235 journalists donated to dems, 20 to reps.

Maybe just maybe if these journalists would reveal their preference, we could then judge for ourselves the newsworthiness of their reporting.

""“Our challenge is to probe, analyze and present all the issues, while enabling our viewers and CNN.com users to participate actively with us in the process "

They poke it with a stick. If it wiggles and gets ratings they keep it.

Nanci Griffith - "I Wish It Would Rain" Live

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPB0zXJsQpU

"You hate people!" - Dante in the movie "Clerks"

"But, I love gatherings. Ironic, isn't it?" - Randall in the movie "Clerks"

Chat,
Anonymous chicken sh*t, go back and read the thread....use up your time on earth , to realize you're wrong.

lolol pitiful

LMAO....now there is an organize sub-culture to malfunction junction.....someone thinks pretty highly of themselves.....

Thanks for the gold star.....I haven't had one of those since 3:00

My whole theory about what is wrong with the media these days is that all the stars are no longer born "elsewhere" - It is an East Coast college crowd who don't really believe that people who count live anywhere else. Most of them never had to be concerned with earning a living until such time as they got a well paying "position" (not a job). Their idea of roughing it is being an intern while living on mommy or daddy's credit card.

Birthplaces as example -

Cronkite - Missouri
Murrow - North Carolina
Huntley - Montana
Brinkley - North Carolina
Olbermann - NYC
Cooper - NYC

We may occasionally disagree with our fearless Kentucky born leader or Mr. Scarborough from GA, but at least they both speak and act like real people.

chat

As my grandad always said, "It's the hound that got hit with the rock that yelps the loudest"
I'm kinda enjoyin' listenin' to Nanci. How about you?
Jack

I never knew that so many people dislike successful people until blogging.

This clip is very grainy. But, the attitude is perfect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnPpAaN9otE

You could work your whole way up, through hardships and everything else, but GD if you are rich and want to pass it along to your children.....

Because to the outside world...it looks like it was given to you...ignorance once again

ever hear "extra bone for a barking dog"?

lol......no kidding.....I want to have the most complete chart...gold stars here , there and everywhere!!!!

okay for those of you who have no sense of humor ----> ~

I seem to remember getting gold stars in kindergarten.....havent seen them much lately........nice to know some folks still find places for them.......

UB

The problem with a great number of "successful people" is that they were born with a head start and take credit as if they achieved everything on their own. I don't begrudge them the success, I begrudge them the egotism.

Certainly a talented person who gets an assist getting in the door has to produce once they get there, but don't act as if mommy, daddy, money, mentor, ivy league university etc. had nothing to do with it.

Can you hum a few bars of it, Sturge?

Sturge, look at the Ohio St. Buckeyes football helmets. They got stickers all over them!

Jamie

You could see that phenomena all through the primaries. Candidates that were NY east coast based got a lot of coverage they didn't earn. It was the media that last year was promoting the fold the tent Hillary is unbeatable. Remember how they promoted Giuliani. Or Romney. Then their hearts got all a flutter with Bloomberg.

It seemed like they were living in an alternate universe

Jack

corey........lol

yeah, but........

Sturge,
That's a shame you haven't seen them for so long, I have stars in gold, platinum and diamonds....I have to admit the gold one is a paper product.

"They got stickers all over them!"

Starting to look like Nascar, are they?

Jack

Just trying to put some humor in here, Sturge. LOL!

Well, I hate THE Ohio St. Buckeyes , Jack. Always have, always will.

corey.......quite sisyphustic.......

lol

Never collected gold stars in school

I did collect a few slaps up side the head.
It was their idea of progressive education
As I caused more trouble the slaps got progressively harder.

Jack

Disney Films
Snow White: Naming the Dwarfs
1937

The dwarfs themselves were, Disney believed, the heart of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, and many grueling weeks went into their development. Other sources of information might have you believe that as many as fifty different dwarf names were conceived of and rejected, but this is not the case -- at no time did Disney ever consider having more than seven dwarfs, although he did toy with several different sets of dwarfs.

It was originally thought that the seven dwarves should mirror some "seven" that the audience was familiar with. The seven wonders of the world, perhaps, or the seven sins (Envy, Lust, Gluttony, Sloth, Ire, Hubris, and Doc). Someone suggested that the dwarfs be gamblers -- the "lucky seven." Another young writer, Akira Kurosawa, suggested that they be seven samurai, but everyone just looked at him like he'd stood on his head in church and went on with their own suggestions.

For a while, the idea was tossed around to have the dwarfs named after important figures in literature and music (e.g., Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, George, and Ringo), with appropriate "in jokes" made through the film, but test audiences found such highbrow tactics offputting.

Finally, Disney hit upon the idea of thinking of characteristics for the dwarfs and then giving them appropriate names afterwards. This "backwards" method of naming turned out to be just the ticket. Many possible characteristics were considered (incorrigible, bossy, orderly, stately, spacey, soused, albino, amphibious, destitute, disposable, ticklish, timely, effeminate, fastidious, feral, dressy, dusty, hairy, salty, testy, snooty, tasty, pasty, stuffy, picky, gangly, parsimonious, unintelligible, whimsical, stigmatic, socialist, smelly, tardy, mushy, nerdy, groovy, bland, boneless, blasphemous, anemic, anarchic, platonic, radical, rascally, quarterly, literary, ineligible, impregnable, inflammable, flatulent, genderless, marginal, hideous, hysterical, hyperactive, hyperbolic, hypersensitive, bureaucratic, Brobdingnagian, codgerly, automated, balding, bionic, bivalve, bubbly, bigo ego, piggy, chipper, floundering, fifer, fiddler, practical, jasmine, maleficent , scar, beauty, beast, Captain Hook, pearly white, cross-pollinated, low-carb, tone deaf, decompressed, sunburnt, tarnished, transparent, trustworthy, persistent, pantsless, omnivorous, ominous, omnimoving, oxymoronic, omnipresent, onomatopoetic, caffeinated, cancerous, titanic, Herculean, narcissistic, Sisyphustic, cuckolded, inarticulate, incontinent, luminous, miniscule, miserly, mossy, myopic, orchestral, canine, cranky, crinkly, and Bernie, for example), before six were chosen. The number was rounded to seven with the addition of Doc (because Disney thought it would be funny if there was "a doctor in the house.")

The greatest joy in my life would be to give my children a head start.....if it took the very last breath I was to breath I would do it. To me there is no other benefit to working so hard everyday of my life......so maybe you don't see it that way, and maybe you don't think that people who achieve sacrifice.....but I believe they do, and on many levels.

And to relate it to Obama, he worked hard, he grew up in not so perfect circumstances and he excelled....he excelled against the odds.....he should be proud and more power to him. Pick on him because this or that, but he achieved a hell of a lot in his life.

Why Corey?
They're just in the Big Ten
Now if they were in a real sports conference like say , oh, maybe the Big 12, then I could see getting passionate. But the Big Ten? I mean really.

Grin duck and run

Jack

UB

Read what I said. It isn't the being rich. It isn't the passing it along. It isn't getting a head start in life.

It is failing to realize that you are where you are because you are rich, had it passed along and got a head start in life. It is the assumption of superiority.

The old description of being born on third base and thinking you hit a home run.

A lot more red on the Cnn chart.

Workin' man blues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTdKbkbPu7o

Jamie,
Those people aren't going to sing a sad story to those they meet......they aren't going to spill the family secrets of when it almost collapsed.....maybe to their closest friends....they aren't going to com eout and say, i don't know what I am doing......but seriously you can't believe the image (everything is beautiful all the time) .....that is all it is, an image.

"The number was rounded to seven with the addition of Doc (because Disney thought it would be funny if there was "a doctor in the house.")"

And now you know why the executive offices of Disney Studio are on DOPEY Drive.

The Big 12? Remind me to get you a swimsuit calender featuring the Kansas coach, Jack. LOL!

ray:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf0X7QuK4LI&feature=related

You are missing the point UB. It is the assumption of superiority. There is a "talking down" that goes on. A kind of "you are too stupid to know what is happening so we will tell you, but it will only be what we want you to hear, "

When you listened to a Cronkite, it was the VOICE of middle America. All the great Network newsmen and the radio men before them could hear America talking.
The modern broadcasters are lucky if they can hear past 42nd street.

Sure there are ignorant, uneducated, and superstitious people across the 2500+ mile expanse of the US, but not all of them or even most of them. The majority get up every day and go to work, raise their family, and try their best to do their best in the world. They can handle real news programming rather than programming fluff.

Jamie,
Have you ever considered that you are putting your perception of how they "should " be on them, rather than they actually trying to talk down to you. See I don't notice anything strange of how they talk, because that is what I am used to from television.

Not that I think it's the best it can be , but rather that is what it is.

UB

It could be that I do have a more than half century of listening to news broadcasts. All you have to do is watch the BBC news broadcast and then watch the evening news on CNN.

There really is a difference in the way they speak to the audience.

Craig - is it really an impossibility to have the names of posters listed first, ahead of their posts?. I've seen it on other blogs.

Some of these are literally nothing by name-calling, remembering phrases from grade school playgrounds.
So far, we have escaped from' yer mother wears army boots' but I expect it soon.

Violence breaks out at minority journalists' 'Unity' Convention

"Worst-named convention ever.

Mark Fitzgerald of Editor & Publisher attended the so called "Unity ‘08" convention of the various minority journalists' groups. And the fellow he was interviewing started getting physically attacked by opponents. Dozens of police cars descended on the gigantic McCormick Place convention center in Chicago."

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/07/violence_breaks_out_at_minorit.html

Dibs on Sisyphustic!

Head start to where, UB? Death?

13
Success is as dangerous as failure.
Hope is as hollow as fear.

What does it mean that success is a dangerous as failure?
Whether you go up the ladder or down it,
you position is shaky.
When you stand with your two feet on the ground,
you will always keep your balance.

What does it mean that hope is as hollow as fear?
Hope and fear are both phantoms
that arise from thinking of the self.
When we don't see the self as self,
what do we have to fear?

See the world as your self.
Have faith in the way things are.
Love the world as your self;
then you can care for all things.

Typo my ass. A simple 'thank you' would be sufficient.

Champ

I was giving them credit for running one leg of the diamond on their own. :-)

That all you got?

Don't flatter yourself. I'm a sadist.

I am a sentimental guy ... cry at certain movies and songs. This song by Nanci Griffith always makes my eyes water up...it is that beautiful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwevqcForgM

Here is also what is really the quintessential version of FROM A DISTANCE sung by Nanci Griffith...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waZt7TQZvpM

I may have mentioned this before, but Julie Gold wrote this song while working as a secretary. Christine Lavin introduced Julie to Nanci who recorded the song and later Nanci introduced Julie to Bette Midler. Or it could be Nanci who introduced Julie to Christine to Bette. Anyway, this is how these singers and songwriters work together as a community. During the first Iraq war I would play this song on the radio and feel so helpless at the stupidity of the whole invasion. Anyway, it still touches my heart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waZt7TQZvpM

And I posted these because Jack posted a Nanci Griffith video. And I am betting that both Jamie and Patsi will love them. The rest of you folks I am not sure of your musical tastes, but Nanci's voice is that of a beautiful pixie angel.

:-)

Speak for yourself, Siggy.

Honestly, let's stop with the ping ponging insults guys. It doesn't get us anywhere.

Just having fun, Tom. Unfortunately for Nudnik, he is utterly out of his league. Look for me on a street near you sometime soon, buddy.

Oh wait, you never leave the house. Nevermind.

Once again, don't flatter yourself.

I am conflicted...

It seems that I have one leg in the Obama camp and one leg in the Hillary camp. I am a realist and support Obama because he will, unless there is a major cock up, be the nominee. But I read the back and forth by people on both sides of the debate and I find myself partially agreeing and partially disagreeing with what is being said.

For example: "I don't know any Clinton supporter - people I know don't think she is running."

Posted by: unlikely_burrito | July 25, 2008 5:01 PM

I disagree a bit here because I am still a Clinton supporter but I know that she isn't the nominee. And after a lot of self doubts about where I stood, I decided that my anger and hurt over the way this turned out is no reason for ME to not support the Democrat. Also, Obama does bring a whole new historic moment in our country's history, and yes partially because of his ethnic makeup. If his "Audacity of Hope" speech at the Democratic National Convention of 2004 serves as a model of how things will get done, we will only be the better for it.

And I say it over and over, Barack and Hillary look GOOD together. It's really amazing. With Mark Penn and other "professional advisors" out of Hillary's domain, I think she and Barack would SHINE!

"Quack quack quack!"

C'mon Tom, get your head out of ye arse. As if it matters.

I admire your starry-eyed idealism, but you're to smart not to realize how irrational it is. I've been there. Hell, I voted for the guy, and for it, I am ashamed. Oh well.

Do your own thing; let the power-brokers and administrators of human lives do what they do. They will anyway.

Be a skeptic, always consider the source, and kill your TV.

G'night.

Regardless of anything, I was pleased and liking Obama's overseas journey. He has more class than BushCo and a much better disposition.

Yes, I've changed from thinking 'isolationism' to thinking we need to have been relationships with the world especially since this is the Age of Globalism.

tt

Damnit tiptoe!

'They' just want you to think 'Globalism' is inevitable so that you'll resign yourself to it.

Globalism = subversion of American sovereignty. Is that what you want? You think the global power elite give a damn about your best interests? I you feel powerless under the current power structure, imagine how it will be when we are beholden to 'global' interests.

Now G'night?

I have been following Le Tour de France and not much politics, but I keep hearing about the Enquirer story of John Edwards and his mistress. Anything to this? http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/07/john-edwards-caught-meeting-his-lover.html

...man's got needs, Dex.

This is for you tiptoe:

Music Man "Trouble in River City"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI_Oe-jtgdI

The first newscaster I remember was H.V. Kaltenborn.
He seemed to be a little man and he wore glasses. I seem to remember hearing him called conservative, but am not sure. The next one I remember was John Cameron Swayze, who had a 15 minute nightly news show. His stock phrase was 'hopscotch the world', and they usually had pictures of tanks rolling in Korea. That didn't phase me, but when I realized those pictures were gone (after 1952), I didn't understand why. We had been in a war for 6 of my first 10 years - I never thought of that before.

At any rate, I have never ever heard the kind of reporting I''ve heard and seen in the last year. Just the horrific grammar reporters use is pathetic, but the biases have been the kind of things which you usually hear at the Thanksgiving dinner table and ruin that dinner.

I've said it before and here I go, I'll say it again, these talking heads, all of them, may be nice people but they are woefully under-educated, from Wolf Blitzer pronouncing "naif" as "nafe" to KO stumbling over the word "politesse." They have gofers who check historical facts, at times, but sometimes they don't even check.

The old newspapers, apparently, had much more biased reporters, those with columns like Drew Pearson, but I was too young to read them. Those on tv weren't stars yet. I think -my own opinion - that it's very sad that people today are accustomed to hearing the opinions of a few news readers (not reporters who go after stories) and think it is the news.

Maybe that will be the next new trend : look for our next news show.....The News but not our opinions about it.

I may be an old bag who has outlived her time in the opinion of some, but I'm still here, and I most certainly do not recommend anybody using their time on earth to realize they're wrong. I can back up my beliefs at least as well asa anybody here, and we need to discuss on that level, not on the level of Virginia Wolfe.

First thing, let's all admit we are not going to talk anyone of of any beliefs, and take it from there.

I just thought of something - if 'reporters' did seem to show a bias, it was thought to be very umprofessional.
HA!

Mauro and his family were really sad when it turned out that one of Italy's leading cyclists was caught using performance enhancing drugs. And I just said "performance enhancing drugs at the Tour de France? Perish the thought". Oh and Belgium's number one cyclist, Tom Boonen, was told he would not be included in the Tour this year because he was recently arrested with cocaine in his possession and body.

I think the demands the Tour places on these people make them desperate to do bigger and better things and they turn to the enhancers to make it work. It goes too far !!

you know, it's pretty active here for this time of the night/morning. I like !! I am off to my workplace now.. back later...

Oh, Champ and tiptoe...I wish it were not too late for that globalization business you speak of, but - alas - the globalization horsey has left the barn for good. And our own politicians sold us all out to achieve it...because big business wanted it.

You don't have to apologize for or justify your opinions, boop. If we as humans can't learn from the experiences and mistakes of our elders, we are doomed, indeed.

Well, actually I don't think we can, and that we are indeed doomed; but don't let that stop ya.

It ain't too late, HW. Maybe soon if we all keep our mouths shut, but I don't plan on doing so.

Don't like big business? Stop giving them your money.

Don't like mass media? Stop giving it your attention.

Don't like your politicians? Stop giving them your votes.

This coming from a guy whose best friends are canines. Consider the source.

Challenge your bullshit? Because someone has to.

Tuck tail and run.

Night all. God bless. Give me liberty, or give me death.

Globalism = subversion of American sovereignty. Is that what you want? You think the global power elite give a damn about your best interests? I you feel powerless under the current power structure, imagine how it will be when we are beholden to 'global' interests. Posted by: champ | July 26, 2008 2:45 AM

Not only would there be a loss of our sovereignty, but it is not our right to tell the rest of the world how they should run their governments.

We're here as an example, if they want one. But it is not our place to be the all knowing bullies of the world.

This country was founded on Freedom and Independence. We don't want outside interference, and we should only interject ourselves into other governments in the most extreme circumstances. It's arrogant for a nation so young to think they can rule the world.

"Don't like big business? Stop giving them your money.

Don't like mass media? Stop giving it your attention.

Don't like your politicians? Stop giving them your votes."

Yes. Basics. Reward and Punishment Wins every time.