Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

You have to be willing to do anything to win...now where did I hear that?? :)))))))

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Drat, KC, so close. Repost:

blue, I can't speak for the purchasing decisions of grocery chains - I was just commenting on how I thought that may have come about, and that it likely wasn't outsourcing in the pejorative sense we tend to use the word.. I'd hope some of the chains actually consider quality as well as price when they buy stuff to sell in their stores. I frankly don't know what the economics of that situation were, but I think we can reasonably assume it was competitive with offerings of Pizza made in the USA. I have to agree with you about questionning how in the world frozen pizza can be made in Italy and shipped here as economically as pizza made here, particularly considering container shipping costs these days, but the Japanese were able to do that with steel in the 70s and 80s - shipping scrap steel to Japan, making finished steel products out of it and shipping them back here and selling them more cheaply in the US than we could produce and sell those products here. I think labor costs were the primary difference with the steel industry, and have to be a big factor in the pizza industry as wel, although I never would have thought that would be the case.

"Still, with McCain doing so much of the heavy lifting in his personal remarks and television advertisements, he runs the risk of nurturing his own negative narrative as ill-tempered and angry."

True, he needs to get him a VP going and turn the VP loose. Then McCain can sound all presidential.
Craig you forgot the "obama and the Democrats don't care if you are paying high gas prices, they will make them go higher". I have heard that one several times in the last few weeks.

Jack

Craig, that certainly makes sense - but who (other than the usual skeptics) does that surprise?

IMO. .
I know Obama wants to "take" the higher ground, but he might have to get a little more dirty and nastier, less he be swiftboated out. McCain lies and they call it a gaffe. He needs to be called outside for it.

KGC

Although I was a Biden supporter for President, I don't think he would be a good VP. He runs off at the mouth too much. He would end up stepping on the message of the day. As a Presidential candidate that could be charming, but as VP the focus must always be on the presidential candidate, so he would be an unwanted distraction.

Jack

John McCain is starting to come off rather petulant IMO, and I think makes a big mistake in not giving the American people a reason to vote for him. While he may turn off a small number of voters who were probably going to end up voting for him anyway he's not giving the voters much reason to ignore the last 7.5 years and vote for him. Part of the reason going negative worked so well for Bush was that he already had the wind at his back. McCain looks a man trying to walk into a major hurricane.

Jack,

If Obama picked Biden, they would have to do the same thing the Kerry campaign did to Edwards.

They would use him just for the convention then make sure they shut him up. You are right, Biden would be hard to reign in and keep from talking too much.

KGC

As to the Mittster?

I think McCain is going to need a young Bob Dole type. He needs help in bringing up Obama's negatives. The Mittster is just not that good a campaigner. McCain needs a pitbull and Mitt is something else.

Jack

It ain't a lot, but it's a start.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/31/washington/31justice.html?hp

"The House Judiciary Committee voted along party lines, 20 to 14, to cite [Karl] Rove for defying its subpoena to testify in an inquiry into improper political meddling in the department."

Craig,

Anything in the Democratic pipeline that will build the theme that McCain is a decrepit and out of touch idiot, to rich to care about the average person?

I think there are lots of problems with Biden besides the foot in mouth problems but he does have credibility on foreign policy.

As for the Mittster -- I have seen him be pretty nasty and he has the facade of knowing something about the economy that the lying press (no offense to our host) can pimp.

I'm sticking with those as the my guess for the choices.
I guess we will know soon....

KGC

My personal choice for Obama is McCaskill. That way if they win we will get her out of the senate. That is a vote many of us in Missouri wish we could take back.

Jack

RCP Average: Obama lead down to 2.4%..has been in the 4-5% range recently.

We are stuck with two weak candidates. The only hope of a Democratic victory is that McCain offends voters more than President Obama..oh excuse me, he is not elected yet.

Damn where is Mr. Democrat when you need him!

"Anything in the Democratic pipeline that will build the theme that McCain is a decrepit and out of touch idiot"

Bear

It is every other sentence out of a Democrats mouth, I think. The other sentence usually contains "batshit crazy"

Jack

Chloe.thanks for the Dana Milbank link on previous thread.

ok I admit I want it to be the Mittster so there will lots of replays of "who let the dogs out" one of the most clueless moments in American political theater.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H8Nq7BglIg

KGC

LOL

That one is a classic.

Jack

No, we only use "batshit crazy" for Ron Paul.

Gallup Daily: Presidential Race Tightens to 4 PointsObama leads McCain, 46% to 42%USA Election 2008 Gallup Daily Americas Northern America PRINCETON, NJ -- After moving into a nine percentage point lead over John McCain in Gallup Poll Daily tracking of national registered voters this past weekend, Barack Obama now leads by just four points, 46% to 42%.

Brian

Thats ok Brian

You aren't part of the we under discussion

Jack

Brian,

That's not true. Katie and the twins got mentioned in the same sentences with batshit and poolboys all the time.

Senator Gordon Smith (R-OR) appears to be in panic mode. He is blanketing the airwaves with sloppy attack ads.

His opponent, House Speaker Jeff Merkley , appears headed to victory. Although there is a long time to go, Democrats are feeling really good about this race.

Also, in the 5th District where I live, Democrats look like likely winners to replace retiring Democrat Darlene Hooley.

This should have been a very close race,but the GOP Pro-life candidate has been caught in a scandal involving his paying for his girlfriend's abortion inthe past while dropping her off at the clinic and then driving away. The GOP wants him to leave the race,but it appears he thinis he still can win with his millions. He is wrong.

did somebody say "poolboys"?

It is summertime. Notice they are both polling in the mid to low 40's. A big chunk of undecided and weak supporters will make up their mind in the fall. Most likely with a coin, just before they walk into the booth.

Jack

Chloe: I second Oregon Dem thanks .. enjoyed Dana's article very much ... I think alot of people are "seeing" BO that way & are not happy ...
HEY!, keep your chin up & don't let 'em get to you .. Even though I don't post much, I do enjoy reading your post ..
Patsi/Jamie/ RR & who ever else I've forgotten .. last nights talk about Witches & brooms, had me almost rolling on the floor, for alot of reasons I can't post here, lol
!:^)
viv

Rasmussen..2 pt. lead for O.

The polls only serve two purposes right now. Entertainment, and as an excuse to gloat when your side is doing well. The first poll that will really matter are the ones following the first debate.

OK, My apologies UB. It was a cheap shot. I won't justify it. Sorry.

Brian

I think HRC is keeping the poolboys all busy.
Notice she hasn't been out and about much.

Jack

"Notice she hasn't been out and about much."

Amen!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/07/who-raised-kaine.html#comment-122020

Renee: lol ... "snarky" mood .. wish I could think that fast .. guess I've not been on here long enough, give me some time ..

Karl Rove Held In Contempt By House Judiciary Committee

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/30/karl-rove-held-in-contemp_n_115836.html

Ok, here's a question for any lawyers out there, including you Craig. If Congress issues a warrant for Rove's arrest can that warrant be enforced by any law official?

Many Americans blindly believe.. at least the GOP knows it's target....plus their candidate is so lame they have nothing to lose in doing this....McCain already has the reputation of say any damn thing, true or not....no surprise there.

They only good thing about this, is that the younger voters will see through it and through the internet dismantle charges very quickly in forums and emails.
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Champ,
You are one who said it, I don't share that thought, apologize to yourself for being cheap.

Ignore the Knotheads:

1. Knotheads are those who regularly use abuse toward other posters.

2. Don't read posts by your list of knotheads

3. When you realize you are reading a post responding to a knothead, stop reading it.

4. Don't respond or refer to knotheaqd comments which seep through this imperfect system. When info. seeps through try to bemused.

I have 4 on my knothead list..not too bad. It probably seems like there would be more because they tend to live on this blog.

Following these guidelines helps make this a much more interesting experience.

Good point. Sorry, champ.

as an excuse to gloat when your side is doing well.
by Brian in NYC

LOL who would know better

OMG! I am cracking up while catching up....

UB posted: "Whatever, maybe you don't desire to broaden your exposure to people from different ethnic background. I don't see why that, goal of mine , make some people here so angry. "

THIS from someone who said she hoped to find the time to get to know a black person! hysterical!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop it UB -- yer killin' me!

By the way Chloe -- don't worry about posters who still live with their parents.....

I'm guessing I'm on the 'knothead' list? Did I at least make the top spot, or am I not even good at being a knothead? It will provide the impetus for some serious introspection if the latter. If you made it this far, then I'm glad you are not such a stickler for rules. Thanks.

"Stop it UB -- yer killin' me!"

if only!

"I know Tim Kaine personally. He is a Catholic whose concern extends to having done missionary work in Honduras.

He is absolutely no threat to a woman's right to choose, and a very progressive politician who is a bridge builder. "

Oh, yeah...we already know your positions on women, dog. ROFL!!!!!!!!

"A local election watched by abortion partisans across the land"

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/200/story/45923.html

"Phil Kline and Steve Howe are fighting a contentious Republican primary race over who should be the next district attorney in Johnson County, Kan., the wealthy suburb just outside Kansas City"

This is a turning point for Kansas Republicans. If Kline wins then the religious right owns the party. This will make Kansas's mofe to the Democratic party faster.

Jack

If this just becomes an echo chamber for one political party what good is it? Not much. And that is why I encourage GORDO to keep those posts coming. The responses are so predictable.

Posted by: Bowmanc | July 30, 2008 1:53 PM

I can only speak for myself... if someone keeps posting predictable conspiracy links one can assume the responses will be just as predictable.

Beyond that, I am not interested in getting into kindergarten exchanges. I am starting to question the wisdom of even having a place to discuss politics. What's the point? We just all bark, snark and attack each other, or each other's candidates...

"an excuse to gloat when your side is doing well. "

Here's why you are so completely ignorant, Brian. Most of us don't have a "side" anymore. We think we're screwed no matter which of these clowns is elected.

Champ

The martyr role illsuits you.

I'm certain your not on anybodys knothead list, no more than I am.

What's that?
Who me?

Uh, Champ never mind.

Jack

Richardson will host Clinton fundraisers

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0708/Richardson_will_host_Clinton_fundraisers.html

Isn't this the same Richardson you people like to refer to as "Judas"?

BrianinNYC,

Not lawyer, but don't see any reason why any person could not arrest rove. Is there a price on his loaf ?

Patsi ... YES, ya nailed it on the head ...lol

All valid questions, Tom. So... what is the point? None? You haven't reached the latter conclusion yet if you still post. So what could be the point? That you consider some people friends here and were involved in a moment of bonding over music last night is obviously one. So no we're getting into matters of desire, that of human companionship, on some level, desire creates suffering: Bango!

Not for nothing.

Patsi you sound cranky today, run of wood for the still again or did your cousin turn down your marriage proposal again?

Jack

Hmmmm...

Looks like Billy boy maybe a littled worried. He is seeing a serious jneed to mend some fences.
Koolaid hangovers are hell.

Jack

xrepug I really don't know what the legal process is. Since the AG has already made it clear that he won't arrest Rove is Congress holds him in contempt I'm trying to figure out how we can get his fat white ass behind bars!

I am not nor have I ever been a knothead.

Now, a knucklehead, of course, I'll admit that.

Knuckleheads are fans of Red Knuckles and the Trailblazers a western swing band from Wyoming, Montana.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bPJPNx6k-rU

Bowmanc,

I like Gordo's posts. It gives me a feeling that there are some things in the world that folks like me can actually depend on.

The sun rises, the blog appears, and GORDO restates the forged birth certificate theorum.

Obviously, we have a clockwork universe designed by an intelligent being. Thanks be to Craig.

Boy jack you really don't get it at all.

craig wrote "with McCain doing so much of the heavy lifting in his personal remarks and television advertisements, he runs the risk of feeding his own negative narrative as ill-tempered and angry."
and i don't see many big names out there helping j mc. are they letting him twist in the wind, fall apart, maybe pushing him out the door come the convention and substituting candidate x who nobody is prepared to fight? someone suggested that senario on this blog once before as being the almost-october gop surprise.

OK, Jack, after some introspection I will assert with confidence I wasn't conciously or subconciously attempting to assume a martyr role. Another type of self-destructive interaction, yes, to which UB alluded, decided her conclusion was valid, and offered my apology to myself in this forum mostly for humorous effect. The apology was accepted, by the way.

As to the knothead list, I'm just trying to determine the 4 ignominious members. OD has sown the seeds of doubt, of which he will reap the harvest... Chew on that, OD. I am. Quite chewy, indeed.

here patd maybe this will answer your question.

This is pretty great. John McCain's claim that Barack Obama would rather lose the war than lose the presidential race is so repugnant that one of his most prominent surrogates -- Florida Governor Charlie Crist, who's also talked about as a potential Veep -- refused to endorse it.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/top_mccain_surrogate_refuses_t.php

I hate typing 'LOL', xrep; but you deserve one:

LOL

Contempt of Congress is enforced by the Sargent at Arms.

The only way a guy like Rove is going to jail is if people start hitting the streets. I doubt it. Let's see how many here who want him to held accountable are on the D.C. streets (or on their way) and how many here are still posting in 2 hours.

...He ain't going to jail.

Champ,
I thought you would understand. (even if it did humor you)

Typos abound. That's my cue. *Poof!

I enjoy reading GORDO'S links ... In fact, I read almost all the links posted here ..

HOW else are you going to learn what is going on or what is being said??

xr - just surmising a little, but it would likely be the result of the issuance of a federal warrant issuing from the US District Court - DC Circuit or the US Magistrate in DC. Contempt of Congress is a drawn out, multi level procedure - The contempt finding in Congress does not apprear to be capable of the issuance of an arrest warrant as a result of its issuance until it is referred to a grand jury and an indictment issues there, but I can't say for sure without reading the statute, and I am not all that motivated to do that - I've read them before and it hurts my head to read federal statutes. Then the US Attorney could have a warrant issued, likely enforced by US Marshalls. Local and federal authorities can enforce those warrants. Here's the wiki explanation of Contempt of Congress procedures - have at.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_Congress

John McCain's talking points have become so absurd it's as if he's getting them from hizzbuzz or noquarters.

ELECTION 2008
Obama tied to Iraqi government fraud?
Hundreds of millions in deals with candidate's associates
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=70972

JERUSALEM – Sen. Barack Obama's office engaged in six months of negotiations with a company controlled by convicted criminal Tony Rezko to lobby the U.S. government to push through a nixed $50 million contact to train Iraqi security personnel at a site in Chicago.

which "it" are you talking about Brian?

Jack

"the US Attorney could have a warrant issued, likely enforced by US Marshalls" pogo, aren't these the same folks that owe rove their jobs?

the "it" I refer to is regarding Richardson helping Hillary with her debt, he has no fences to mend!

http://www.prwatch.org/node/7581

Whose Conventions Are They Anyway?

Boss, I may be wrong, but I think the Sgt.at Arms could only arrest Rove if he were on the grounds. His law enforcement powers are pretty well limited to the Senate wing and Senate Office Buildings of the Capitol.

http://www.senate.gov/reference/office/sergeant_at_arms.htm

This just in:
In earlier posts I talked about the Obama book that we printed at my plant. We got some feedback from the publisher. It does not look like we will be printing any more of this book. To quote the publisher, "Sales have been dismal." This tells me that nobody (as in nobody) is buying this book.

What does it mean? Probably nothing, except the publisher made a misjudgment that there would be a demand for anything Obama.

Brian

Craig would have to confirm, but I believe Congress can take the action of having the Sergeant at Arms frogmarch his pasty puffy persona to the basement jail cell until such time as he agrees to testify.

patd, nah, he could have a hand in getting someone a job there, I suppose, but the U.S. Marshall Service is a very professional broad based federal law enforcement agency whose primary roles are apprehending fugitives and protection of the security of federal courts, with marshals and deputy marshals based in the federal courts, and it is very difficult to get a job there.

http://www.usmarshals.gov/

Shuster just hashed out the whole thing. Conclusion: Nothing likely to happen before Congress goes into recess and probably not before the end of the Bush presidency.

Can one Presidential "whatever he did for me was cool" Pardon be a surprise?

BrianinNYC,

Congress don't need no stinkin' badges. They can post a bounty on the cur. That would be a macho deed, appealing to Westerners and fans of Clint Eastwood movies, and slicing those two demographics away from mccain.

The howl that would arise from republican hacks would demonstrate them to be the sort of necktied and pinstriped, perfume-wearing, bleeding-hearted, crime-coddling, weepy-eyed, pantiwaists that real he-men like Hoss, Paladin, Johnny Yuma, McCloud, and I hate.

How about:

Wanted:
karl rove - professional weasel
Alive $500,000
Dead $1,000,000

You ask for straight talk, pardner, and you always get it from me.

This is funny-listen to Zipperfish and learn: President Bush Y.A.A.F.M.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnbdKyBROIY

jamie, technically, that is true, but Rove's coming to the chamber to testify would purge the currently pending comtempt charge, and any refusal to testify would likely be under the color of an assertion of executive privilege - or maybe an assertion of his 5th amendment right against self incrimination. It would be close to outrageous (albeit incredibly satisfying) to have the SaA frogmarch him to the basement under that scenario.

Jamie I understand that the Capitol jail cell no longer exists the space was converted during the last renovation.

xr - get that poster printed up and stapled to telephone poles nationwide. lol

Uh Brian,

From your own link.
" it's also a move which could repair Richardson's own relationship with the Clintons -"

Sounds like fence mending to me

Jack

That's the author's opinion, not mine!

Don't US Marshals work for the DoJ?

Isn't mukasey the top crook in the DoJ?

Didn't mukasey say he wouldn't apprehend this maggot, rove?

Sturg,

Thanks for linking that James Fallows piece.

I don't know where he gets the energy to do all the intellectual exploring that he does. I envy his range of interests.

xr, they do, he is, he did. There was no warrant outstanding when he said that. Warrants issued by Federal courts change things for the people who work in them. Mukasey will be gone in 6 months, the federal judge is in office from a lifetime appointment.

Breaking News out of Jerusalem: "Olmert: I'll quit as PM when Kadima picks new leader."

So the rumors of Olmert's own personal Travelgate are true, of course he is denying it, still. Harder to avoid for this corrupt man are the charges of accepting the Talansky bribes.

And now Olmert is going to step aside as soon as his Kadima Party selects a new candidate.
There can be no rejoicing for Olmert 's deriders, as now the in-fighting begins within the Kadima ranks and right now it's a mystery who will emerge.

For we who suspected all along Olmert was just another thug, we can only rejoice in this news. Of course Bush is comforting him in his sadness. This fact is the current headline of the online Jerusalem Post.

XP how about this?

US Constitution.
Article one section 8
To declare war, *grant letters of marque* and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water

So could we use a letter of marque to hire a bounty hunter? Seems like a slick talking lawyer could come up with a way to make it stretch. Besides it would have to go to the supreme court and that could take years befor they would decide. Think of Rove in a private pokie waiting on the supreme court to make a decision.

Congress doesn't need a jail cell.

Poe's story, The Cask of Amontillado, suggests a simple storage technique. Or, they could suspend him from bunjie cords in the men's biffy until a new President offers to park him in abu ghraib.

and xr, that was over Rove's refusal to honor a congressional subpoena to testify and Mukasey's own refusal to turn over documents to the House Oversight Committee, and both were in essence asserting the same privilege (although Rove didn't bother to show up to assert it) - Mukasey had no intention of enforcing those subpoenas, and subpoenas aren't arrest warrants - enforcement of those would have fallen on the Sgt. at Arms.

hey pogo...I watched the entire TDF and the Spaniard Sastre deserved the Yellow. It was a great TDFrance, spectacular in scenery and action. Just great. The climb and descent of Alpe D'Huez was gripping. Outstanding.

"That's the author's opinion, not mine!"

True,
Been getting paid much for your opinion lately?

Jack

Brian,

That's what I heard on Shuster. We need to think of suitable alternatives.

I already had one miscreant slathered in honey and staked out nude on a fire ant hill. Any other suggestions?

About the same amount as you jack.

jack, that would be a bit of a stretch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letters_of_marque

I like xr's idea. I don't remember any bungee cords in Poe's story, but In fact, I'll donate the bricks and mortar.

Gotta go. Have fun.

Dex, I watched the last 18 days and got a recap of the first 3. Sastre did deserve it.

"This is pretty great. John McCain's claim that Barack Obama would rather lose the war than lose the presidential race is so repugnant "

This is such BS. Compared to past presidential campaigns that accusation is nothing. It's just that you can't stand your demigod to face a real campaign.

I think it's a bogus accusation. But Jesus H Christ -- it isn't the worst that's ever been hurled. You people obviously have zero confidence in this guy.

Pogo

Just a bunch of technicalities, I'm sure Georgie boy wouldn't let anything as an obviously quaint definition stand in his way.
Besides with all these private military contractors around it should be easy to have a real constitutional crisis. Think of it. the white house and the capital lobbing bombs at each other.
Ya know, there is an alternate history story some where in that. At least I hope it will be an alternate history.

Jack

Craig.....
you're back on Countdown..... good for you.... perhaps this means that the network has forgiven you for having a mind of your own....
unfortunately for me, I probably won't see it..... have to pack the vehicles tonight..... my load in time is early tomorrow morning..... but very glad your adoring fans will get to see you on that program again.....

everyone take care.....
and ETom is right, IMO..... don't take everything so f***ing seriously.... a little humor goes a loooong way.....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/from-one-military-father_b_115842.html

From one Military Father to another

"McCain, in a deeply cynical ploy to misinform, is lying about Obama. Any lie is bad enough. But to impugn Senator Obama in way that also abuses our troops is not only wrong but political slime. This is an act of unpatriotic desperation."

amen to that Renee .... I wish I lived close by you... I think you'd be a fun person to hang around with. :-)

It's about 90 degrees in my apartment and its 11 pm.. I am off to bed.

pogo,

Thanks for clearing things up so clearly. I always appreciate a lack of Legalese.

Whskyjack,

I love the Letter of Marque idea.

Unfurl the Jolly Roger and sharpen thine Cutlass, Matey. Avast, rove! Or, taste Me Broadside! Arrgh.

"From one Military Father to another

"McCain, in a deeply cynical ploy to misinform, is lying about Obama. Any lie is bad enough. But to impugn Senator Obama in way that also abuses our troops is not only wrong but political slime. This is an act of unpatriotic desperation."

I repeat:

Compared to past presidential campaigns that accusation is nothing. It's just that you can't stand your demigod to face a real campaign.

I think it's a bogus accusation. But Jesus H Christ -- it isn't the worst that's ever been hurled. You people obviously have zero confidence in this guy.

AND I'LL ADD THIS:

These "letter from a soldier" and "soldier's father" posts are just sickening. True Republican tactics. Bush fan/Obama Fan -- Frick & Frack

FYI -Off topic and of interest to some (me) lol

Interesting House amendment to the latest Senate Foreclosure Act:

Senate Housing Bill Requires eBay, Paypal, Amazon, Google, and All Credit Card Companies to Report Transactions to the Government.

"Hidden deep in Senator Christopher Dodd's 630-page Senate housing legislation is a sweeping provision that affects the privacy and operation of nearly all of America's small businesses. The provision, which was added by the bill's managers WITHOUT DEBATE this week, would require the nation's payment systems to track, aggregate, and report information on nearly every electronic transaction to the federal government."

http://www.freedomworks.org/newsroom/press_template.php?press_id=2571

Obama's convention crowd: Biggest phone bank ever

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DEMOCRATIC_CONVENTION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-07-30-17-06-48

"This convention is going to look different and feel different and be different," says Steve Hildebrand, the Obama adviser overseeing the effort, during a recent visit to Denver. "We're here to win an election, not throw a party."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKlRAIKef3g

They just showed the new McCain ad here. In it, he calls Obama a celebrity and compares him to Britney Spears and Paris Hilton and questions if he's ready to lead.

The pirate song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSIjlUMV6Is

Nice - end of the work day - Jimi
: )

"sweeping provision that affects the privacy and operation of nearly all of America's small businesses"

eBay, Google, Amazon, Paypal, and credit card companies are small businesses ?

While it may affect the privacy in a big way, it hardly affects the ops of small businesses.

Doesn't Homeland Security already have all this info through FISA? Why do they need Paypal to rat on it's customers ?

Maybe the Fed computers aren't allowed to talk to each other to protect 'privacy.' ( :>D ]

That McCain ad should appeal to the really ~~bright Repugs~~

Wow, the Yankees just made a deal for Pudge...I hope he can still hit since without the roids and HGH he's just a normal bum...

Did Brittney graduate with a J.D. magna cum laude from Harvard? They are so so similar, they even look alike.

Patsi: it's not lack of confidence in the candidate. It's sad knowledge of the servility of the media and gullibility of too many Americans.

Watch the McCain "celebrity" ad Corey mentioned (pictures of Britney and Paris, photos of adoring crowds and crowd noise McCain's campaign does not inspire to turn out).

McCain's ad is clearly aimed at very. stupid. people.

It's up to Obama and his voters to show that it's safe to be a grown up again.

Kind of like Ludicrous's latest lyrics should appeal to many on this blog:

"Hillary hated on you, so that bitch is irrelevant," say the lyrics. "McCain don't belong in ANY chair unless he's paralyzed"

There's plenty of stupid to go around....

I think this ad is aimed so low, it might hurt McCain to have gone with it.

That ad isn't shit when you compare it with what was done to Kerry and Cleland.

Patsi: well then, maybe you should do something to see that they don't get away with it again, hmmm? That would be a start.

There's plenty of stupid to go around....

Posted by: Patsi

Plenty voted for Bush
Enough twice

Dog,
McCain is low, so that is nothing new for him....remember what he called his wife? very very low

The Tigers get Farnsworth! YAY! *Hack, cough!"

I can almost see the future of mccain ads:

Rapidly changing scenes: Masses of adoring fans squealing for Elvis and the Beatles, MLK Jr's March on Washington, mobs of people celebrating as the Berlin Wall is smashed, long lines of South Africans turning out to vote for the first time, the square at St Peter's filled with pilgrims, and a bird's eye view of 2 million at the Hajj.

Voice: " Obama is popular, too, but still inexperienced. America needs something different. "

Scene: mccain's face: the cheeks clench: a tight ear to ear grin.

Camera pulls way back to reveal Candidate mccain alone in a very large and empty room.

Voice: " mccain....He stopped growing ! "

Tinny tenor Voice: " I'm john mccain, and I approved this mess...."

McCain Charge Against Obama Lacks Evidence
By Michael D. Shear and Dan Balz
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, July 30, 2008; A01

For four days, Sen. John McCain and his allies have accused Sen. Barack Obama of snubbing wounded soldiers by canceling a visit to a military hospital because he could not take reporters with him, despite no evidence that the charge is true.

The attacks are part of a newly aggressive McCain operation whose aim is to portray the Democratic presidential candidate as a craven politician more interested in his image than in ailing soldiers, a senior McCain adviser said. They come despite repeated pledges by the Republican that he will never question his rival's patriotism.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/29/AR2008072902286_pf.html

McCain and Obama are both oinkers. I Got 99 Problems but a Bitch Ain't One....

"There's a lot of us voting against Obama more than anything else," Englekirk said to McCain.

McCain tries to show independence and conservatism

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MCCAIN_TOWN_MEETING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-07-29-20-23-35
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This is an issue - those who are merely voting against Obama...the Obama haters, don't hate his stances just don't like him....

Patsi: trust you to see the big picture, hmm?

Whose big picture, dog?

Then they haven't been on this blog...lol

That book my friend wrote included a quote from North Koreans about Americans. The North Korean man my friend was talking to said, "We don't hate Americans, we just hate the American Military." My friend's reaction was, "Isn't the American military made up of Americans?"

xrepub: great ad parody!

Corey,

It's similar to people thinking that all East German women were steroid loving men in drag...until Katerina Witt came on to the scene and posed for Playboy...she became the exception to that rule as well...

mmmmm... Katarina Witt.

A lot of people made fun of Obama's bowling, but nobody made fun of his basketball skills after seeing him drain a few Jump shots the other day!

This is an issue - those who are merely voting against Obama...the Obama haters, don't hate his stances just don't like him...

And it isn't an issue if : those who are merely voting against McCain..the McCain haters, don't hate his stances just don't like him...

If someone doesn't like Obama it isn't necessarily because he is of African descent. There are plenty of other reasons not to like him. The car he owns, the people he screwed over in Chicago, his associates, that he went to Harvard, that he wears wingtips instead of Oxfords, the church he went to, his stance on ethanol, you name it.

And I didn't even mention His 99 problems but you know who ain't one of them.....

Chloe - I have counted up 5 knotheads in my consideration, and you are not one. HA! Talk about spontaneous combustion! WOW! Sorry you got hit with that - even phenomenal peripheral vision wouldn't have helped you see it coming.

Patd - I agree on Tin Roof Blowdown. It made it more personal, didn't it? I love Burke's entire Dave Robicheaux series - have you read them, too?

Theresa - loved your comments re St Louis. I grew up in Webby G (webster groves) and left the last time in
81. It isn't a bustlin' city, but I kinda like that, since the growth isn't frenzied. The Muny, the zoo, the art museum are such strong memories of mine. I was just there in May and found it almost difficult to leave but my family is all here in CA so there was no doubt where I was going. That's why I'm wondering what parts of the city, or county, Champ was in.

I'm guessing Dana Milbank isn't on msnbc any more - am I right?

I do not like any part of the way this election is going. How did we get into such a mess?

I blame Sandra Day O'Connor - and there's another reason to care about the scotus.

By the way, I have to say most of the fights that go on here don't seem to have much in the way of justification, but then again, that's my opinion which I am allowed to have as well as any others here.

"it isn't necessarily because he is of African descent."

True. I don't remember being called a racist/feminazi bitch when I supported Harold Ford for Speaker instead of Nancy Pelosi. Funny how that worked....

Oh, but that was before so many here were even aware of politics....

Harold Ford would have been so much better that Pelosi. She is about as "old style power politics" as it gets. Baltimore Style. Which also spawned Spiro Agnew.

Harold would have been great. I heard Nancy on NPR today and Jeezus she was full of it.

Oh come patsi at your age no one expects you to remember the first time you were called a bitch.

Cory,

I thought that B-Ball baloney was silly and Obama looked arrogant strutting like a peacock after he hit the shot that media chose to broadcast. Notice they didn't, or I haven't seen, any misses.

Hey Obama, you're the nominee for President of the United States, which is a pretty significant achievement in itself; I don't care that you're good at basketball. Building some 'street cred', eh? I realize neither you nor Oregon Democrat are likely to read this post. Just throwing it out there.

They will never show a shot that he misses. Nobody makes every shot. Fawning garbage.

"Oh come patsi at your age no one expects you to remember the first time you were called a bitch. "

ROFL -- be careful Brian -- I was just a kid when you were born. And when you count the mileage....you may be ahead of me now.

However, I did mean to thank you for that earlier post about your guy saying he'd take a look at all the executive orders. Let's hope he does.

I wouldn't use Patsi's age against her. There's nothing sadder than an old queen! You were doing so well today, too: Interacting respectfully, figuring stuff out through cooperation and discussion...

Patsi,

When you supported Ford for speaker, I thought you were a cougar with the fever...lol

Champ,

Republicans say Reagan brought down the Berlin Wall...I disagree, seeing how hot the women were because of Witt, that's what brought down the wall...that and the sex trade in Budapest...lol

Here's Someone to take on Rove

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es1K0jNrkj4

Ted Hamilton

http://www.saxton.com.au/default.asp?sd8=1891

I spent a wonderful evening talking politics with this very, very liberal Australian who had just finished the filming of "The Priate Movie" as The Pirate KIng

Champ, you live up to your name.

I think the poise, grace and calmness that Obama showed while overseas will overshadow McBush's negative campaign.

I think We the People are ready for and NEED a civil president who isn't all Repub ill will and rancor.

tt

"When you supported Ford for speaker, I thought you were a cougar with the fever...lol"

Ha -- well, Bear -- he did give me a big hug and call me Mama when he realized I was the mom of someone he knew....

But I've never been attracted to younger men. Most of the men I lust for are dead or on life support....

Agreed, Tiptoe.

I think it's time we had a president who wasn't owned by telecommunications.

Thanks dog. Let's hope it's not just us who recognize this.

tt

Patsi,

You just earned a new nickname...

Anna Nicole

lol

Champ
"There's nothing sadder than an old queen!" Ha Ha.. Thats what my friend Baz's younger boyfriend says to him all the time.....You made me think about being in Australia listening to them argue...So Funny!

Ya know I don't think I'll take champ on in a pissing contest.
LOL
He knows where the pressure points are.

Jack

"You just earned a new nickname...

Anna Nicole"

Bear -- if I'd have married a geezer like that, you can be damn sure the will would have been airtight.

Plus, I was think more along the lines of the only ex-beau I miss-- Jimmy Witherspoon.

"think We the People are ready for and NEED a civil president who isn't all Repub ill will and rancor."

It would be nice, wonder where we could get one.

Jack

Hey Chloe
Your the Best!! I enjoy you so much.I also of course appreciate all the info you bring to this blog through discussion as well as links.Thank you.Stay put!!!

Ice sheet breaks loose off Canada

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/07/30/canada.arctic.ice.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

"Many scientists now believe that the Arctic will have ice-free summers by 2013, instead of 2030 ,as predicted by the International Panel on Climate Change."

Finally the the Northwest passage!

mmmmm...Reese Witherspoon.

Damn media-instilled lust!

Just realized I have to watch Countdown tonight. DRAT!!