Dems Gain More House Races

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  1. GO DEMS!

    Posted by: EuroTom Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 6:09 AM

  2. It's nice to be FIRST when there is good news! WOO HOO!

    Posted by: EuroTom Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 6:09 AM

  3. Ok, it's time to rise and shine folks! If you're still asleep you're wasting your life.

    I posted a Nanci Griffith post for Jack, Jamie and Patsi and anyone else who loves her music. If you want to read it, here is the link:

    http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/07/obama-goes-global.html#comment-120591

    Posted by: EuroTom Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 7:28 AM

  4. Loved the Nanci Griffith songs, Tom!

    Also, here's an interesting article in Politico, Obama team floats name of Republican Ann Veneman as Veep.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/12059.html

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 7:30 AM

  5. I looked at mine, and the rest of the SC districts--all are safe; two Democrat and four Republican. I would have had a heart attack if mine, SC-2, had shifted to blue.

    People talk about SC going for Mr Obama. I think that's unlikely, but I've been surprised before.

    Congrats, ET!

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 7:34 AM

  6. Oh, I don't want to keep you all in suspense. I'll vote for whoever runs against our incumbent, and I'll write-in Mrs Clinton.

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 7:46 AM

  7. Good Morning,,,,
    ET- I am up moving and weekend chores !!

    How much do polls today translate to results later?

    Of the Dem shift how much is it becuase the Dems are trying to shift... towards the center? Take off the label and what do you really have?
    Another reason BHO must CHANGE

    Posted by: Ping Pong Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 8:54 AM

  8. One last point and off to hard manual labor...

    What has been the shift in wealth caused by the latest economic situation? HUGE
    no need for leftist Dems to drive more tax increase for higher income and the very wealthy to punish the rich for their success

    Posted by: Ping Pong Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 8:59 AM

  9. One last last thing..

    HIPSTER YOU OUT THERE !!!
    WARNING
    I am heading your way
    what is the new posting name?

    Posted by: Ping Pong Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 9:03 AM

  10. "What has been the shift in wealth caused by the latest economic situation? HUGE
    no need for leftist Dems to drive more tax increase for higher income and the very wealthy to punish the rich for their success"

    Ping Pong -- I wish you would fully explain this post.

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 9:11 AM

  11. Good morning all.
    Unfortunately this story is not online yet but in July's Gourmet...

    In “Getting Their Goat” (page 40), Gourmet editors Ian Knauer and Alan Sytsma visit Mandani Halal, a halal butcher in a remote part of the New York borough of Queens. What they find there is much more than a butcher shop—it’s a whole way of thinking about the act of killing animals for food, one that causes them to look at cooking in a very different light.

    Within the article is this from the owner of the Mandani Halal..."I think it's this food that can help the rest of America accept Islam." The reference is to the humane treatment of the animals including the type of food.

    It is an interesting intersection of politics, religion and a growing interest in better ways to structure our food system.

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 10:02 AM

  12. Congressional races --Ohio 16 will go Democratic for the first time in over 50 years. I worked on this race in 1968 and 1970 and hope to go back this year for the last two weeks to enjoy the victory. While the District over all went for Shrub in 2004 --Stark County/Canton long considered a bellwether voted for Kerry (Just another indicator the Ohio election was stolen.)

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 10:18 AM

  13. Also, here's an interesting article in Politico, Obama team floats name of Republican Ann Veneman as Veep.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/12059.html

    Posted by: Patsi | July 26, 2008 7:30 AM

    Ugh... what a ridiculous idea!!

    Posted by: EuroTom Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 10:18 AM

  14. Veneman as a choice would indicate Obama thinks the Shrubian FDA/USDA is on the right track...it has to be a joke.

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 10:23 AM

  15. a little morning amusement

    EAVESDROPPING at Sen. John McCain's Denver appearance Friday. The press corps joked that given the speculation about McCain's running mate, perhaps he was going to announce the Dalai Lama as his veep during their meeting later in Aspen.

    Said one out-of-town television reporter: "Obama can't do it because then it would be Obama-Lama."


    Penny Parker's column appears Tuesday through Saturday. Call her at 303-954-5224 or e-mail parkerp@RockyMountainNews.com.

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 10:27 AM

  16. The Veneman float seemed bizarre to me as well. I wonder why they'd even put something like that out there....

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 10:30 AM

  17. KGC, I mentioned that idea for Obama-Lama a few months. However, I still think it has a nice ring to it!

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 10:39 AM

  18. corey.......your re-union pics were nice.......

    Posted by: sturgeone | July 26, 2008 10:40 AM

  19. Corey
    Sorry to have missed the earlier reference -- I'm not surprised you thought of it though -you are a clever one.

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 10:40 AM

  20. Patsi...
    I know of several very wealthy people that lost significant dollars as a direct loss of the credit situation. Those that invest create the opportunities. when the credit crunch hit and large investment firms took big lose who do you think this impacted the most?

    It is those investors that provide much of the fuel of our economy. so take it a step deeper understanding and that is why higher taxes only Shifts resources to government control.

    That is why higher taxes DO NOT HELP THE ECOMOMY (at a very basic explanation)

    People will not invest the maginal dollars to create jobs and spread the wealth. The non effectvie goverment control is simply wrong

    Posted by: Ping Pong Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 10:41 AM

  21. I don't know, Ping -- has this latest tax caused people to invest more? Everything I've read says it hasn't.

    I only know one uber rich person, in the $300-400 million range. He is self made, by the way, and when Bush did the tax cuts this guy said he'd be happy to take the money, but that it was BS. He also doesn't care about the estate tax. He says he had his family protected years ago and any rich person who didn't deserved to lose some money.

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 10:49 AM

  22. Thanks Sturge and KGC. Yeah, it's no wonder I was smiling in those pics, eh? LOL!

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 10:51 AM

  23. most people I know are convinced that they were doing really well while clinton was president......so what was happening then which is not happening now?

    Posted by: sturgeone | July 26, 2008 10:52 AM

  24. Nobody is buying cars? Is that the answer, Sturge? Or am I just biased because I hear about that everyday?

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 10:56 AM

  25. corey.......yep.....it looked like big smiles were completely called for.........

    Posted by: sturgeone | July 26, 2008 10:57 AM

  26. Everyone is smiling in those pictures.

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 10:58 AM

  27. sturgeone knows no answer......only questions.......

    Posted by: sturgeone | July 26, 2008 11:00 AM

  28. Then why aren't you running for a political office? LOL!

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 11:02 AM

  29. lol...............skeletons abound.............a veritable danse macabre....................

    Posted by: sturgeone | July 26, 2008 11:04 AM

  30. People don't care about that anymore! LOL!

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 11:05 AM

  31. "...so what was happening then which is not happening now?"

    dot-com boom, a.k.a. "irrational exuberance"

    Posted by: champ | July 26, 2008 11:16 AM

  32. I'll have some more of that, please.........

    Posted by: sturgeone | July 26, 2008 11:18 AM

  33. necessity is maternal.

    Posted by: champ | July 26, 2008 11:20 AM

  34. Divided Loyalties, Obama’s Eligibility Problem, PART 2

    "Part 2 explores the factual basis for Barack Obama’s dual citizenship, and concludes that he has been a citizen of at least two countries, and therefore is ineligible to be President.

    There is clear prima facie evidence that Senator Barack Hussein Obama has held at least two Citizenships, American and Indonesian.

    Under Article II of the Constitution that disqualifies him for POTUS, and it should. He may also have held other Nationalities, how many it is not clear.

    He isn’t Eligible unless and until the Supreme Court Rules on Dual Nationality or the Congress passes Statute Law and the Constitution is Amended."

    http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/26/divided-loyalties-obamas-eligibility-problem-part-2/

    Posted by: GORDO | July 26, 2008 11:27 AM

  35. necessity is maternal

    --champ


    does that actually make sense to you somehow?

    Posted by: sturgeone | July 26, 2008 11:32 AM

  36. Gordo is an acquired taste, and I now consider myself an aficionado.

    Posted by: champ | July 26, 2008 11:34 AM

  37. KGC

    You might like to read this comparison between Halal and Kosher. Both have very strict ways in which an animal can be killed in order to remain edible by humans.

    http://meat.tamu.edu/kosher.html

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 11:49 AM

  38. "In reality there are just two types of voters: the romantic democrats and the common-sense democrats.

    The first type -- the romantics -- love the big moments and the pretty words. They prefer the higher tone and look at a politician's mouth first. They often have nothing but contempt for pragmatic politicians.

    Then there are the common-sense democrats, who look at a politician's hands first. They are interested in what the politician does, not in what he or she says. They look for records of success and concepts for change and are often allergic to political preaching. Does the candidate have solid alternatives or is he just a dazzler?"

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,568121,00.html

    Posted by: GORDO | July 26, 2008 11:53 AM

  39. Thanks Jamie

    more of the quote is......."I hope for halal to grow into something bigger, to become synonymous with quality, "LIke kosher," he said

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 11:57 AM

  40. ET

    I added Nanci Griffiths to my Pandora. Thanks for the reminder.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 12:00 PM

  41. Luckily for you, I've got better things to do today. Spout your inanity with impunity, my good man.

    Posted by: champ | July 26, 2008 12:02 PM

  42. Sorry Renee,

    My Winnebago beat your Navajo. rofl

    I'ver been waitng for this day.

    Posted by: Rezdog Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 12:09 PM

  43. The author of that Spiegel article that Gordo posted has a book that might interest all those discussing globalization last night

    "The True Story of Globalization or Why the Flat World is Broken" by Gabor Steingart, published by McGraw-Hill

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 12:10 PM

  44. Patd

    OMG that is FUNNY if only for the opening paragraph description of Georgie.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 12:14 PM

  45. "And it came to pass, in the eighth year of the reign of the evil Bush the Younger (The Ignorant), when the whole land from the Arabian desert to the shores of the Great Lakes had been laid barren, that a Child appeared in the wilderness. "

    "In the great Battles of Caucus and Primary he smote the conniving Hillary, wife of the deposed King Bill the Priapic and their barbarian hordes of Working Class Whites. "

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 12:23 PM

  46. patd...

    Thank you for posting that! Gerard Baker is one great humor writer! Haven't laughed that hard in a while. Especially loved "King Bill the Priapic".

    Posted by: harborwoman Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 12:27 PM

  47. Ha! That's great....

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 12:28 PM

  48. I posted that Wisconcin delegate link earlier today. Read the thread. It's after the "We can't have that" line I wrote.

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 1:20 PM

  49. Make that Wisconsin.

    We can't have that!

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080725/ap_on_el_ge/delegate_dumped;_ylt=AqwgIjwq.ogezBukbDtTKKRh24cA

    Posted by: Corey | July 26, 2008 10:54 AM

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 1:21 PM

  50. "Hows it feel to be part of a horde Jamie?"

    How's it feel to not be able to post anything without insulting someone. Worlking on becoming a complete Ass again?

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 1:36 PM

  51. I love it!

    "After the vote, Bartoshevich again said she planned to vote for McCain in November and that she was dropping out of the Democratic Party.

    "I don't believe Senator Obama has the experience to run this country," she said, adding that McCain "has a stronger resume."

    Her ouster as a delegate "is what they wanted," Bartoshevich said of state party leaders. "I won't drink the Kool-Aid.""

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 1:38 PM

  52. Lighten up?

    Now it's a joke. Hard to tell -so many of your posts so little humor.

    Posted by: anonymous | July 26, 2008 1:53 PM

  53. Oops, I forgot to attribute my 1:38 PM:
    http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=776547

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 1:58 PM

  54. I've got an idea to invite two new members to our group here. Look at this video and tell me what you think!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhmjnYKlVnM&feature=related

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 2:25 PM

  55. I love it, Corey. Good plan!

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 2:30 PM

  56. I love this little tidbit from The Hill:

    Rep. Don Young (R-Alaska) recently released a radio ad touting his “Hero of the Taxpayer” award from Taxpayers for Common Sense.

    One problem: The only award Young has received from the group is its “Golden Fleece” award. Young’s support for the $398 million “Bridge to Nowhere” in Ketchikan, Alaska won him that dubious honor in 2003.

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 2:31 PM

  57. Heh, the chart makes me giddy...but don't count your chickens before they hatch, kids.

    Posted by: Julia | July 26, 2008 2:48 PM

  58. Expanding on media bias- today, separate op-ed columns in WAPO (Fred Hiatt) & NYT(Bob Herbert)
    Both attacking McCain for the same statement.

    Coincidence or co-ordination? guess it depends on
    the eyes of the beholder.

    "Failing in Civility" (WAPO) McCain had one of those unfortunate moments the other day, when he charged
    that Obama "would rather lose the war to win a political campaign"....It's one thing to say Mr. Obama is wrong. Its' another to accuse him of putting political self-interest over country. This is not the 'politics of
    civility' that Mr. McCain was promising as recently as last month.... With these latest comments, Mr. McCain
    faills short of the standards he set out.

    Over at NYT, Bob Herbert's "Getting to know you"
    How much do voters really know about John McCain? Mccain crossed a line that he shoudn't hve this week when he said that Mr. Obama "would rather lose a war in order to win a political campaign". It was a lousy comment, tantamount to calling Mr. Obama a traitor &
    Senator Mccain should apologize for it.

    But what we've learned over the years is that Mr. McCian is one, aws of those guys who never has to pay much of a price for his missteps & foul-ups and bad behavior. Herbert than goes on to state every McCain
    "gaffe" to date.

    Posted by: Coreen Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 2:48 PM

  59. Sorry for the sloppy presentation, was previewing & somehow it submitted.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/26/opinion/26herbert.html?hp=&pagewanted=print

    Posted by: Coreen Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 2:52 PM

  60. Will Media Report Concert Before Obama's Berlin Speech?

    "Remember back in May when media gushed and fawned over a huge crowd in Portland, Oregon -- supposedly gathered to hear the words of Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama -- but chose not to report the free concert given before his speech?

    Well, it has been learned that before the presumptive Democrat nominee spoke to a crowd in Berlin Thursday, two popular German acts -- reggae artist Patrice and rock band Reamonn -- entertained the gathering audience."

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/07/24/will-media-report-concert-obamas-berlin-speech

    Posted by: GORDO | July 26, 2008 2:58 PM

  61. Champ - I loved your response to me last night. I knew exactly how you were going to end it, too.

    I wasn't justifying my vote, or claiming ageism - I was just in a foul mood because of the tone of most of the posts. I guess you could say I was being defiant since so many of the posts were just one or two sentences and so generally nasty, the 'you People kind of insults.
    Slam the whole crowd. It left a bad taste in my mouth

    I think I've figured out the troll business and spotted the troll - it's either a troll because someone needs two personae to say everything 'he' wants, or someone has multiple personality syndrome. I hoped it wasn't so but the evidence is overwhelming.

    Off to San Jose for a second birthday .....er.....the second birthday os a beautiful little girl.

    Champ - I hope you let us know before you take off. I'm quite envious of you. I left St Louis in my twenties to move to Houston - felt I had the whole country to chose from. Someone raved re Houston to me, said it was beautiful and so clean. After three years I missed the cold weather and hated being mocked at for being a yankee, ans seeing students get in trouble for speaking Spanish, and teaching Old Testament (which I cheated at and taught it as secular lit), and got out. Oh yeah, when I went to New York I found out that I don't mind dirty cities, in fact I don't even see the dirt.
    All that was 1967-1970. I'm in CA for the duration but all my travels were so much fun, and the irony is that my druthers are that I was in St Louis. Just can't leave my family!

    Posted by: boop | July 26, 2008 3:00 PM

  62. LOVED the Old Testament story Bethy!

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 3:09 PM

  63. There are two stories out there right now that are a real puzzle. First is that Veneman VP float. If that story is true, and I've now seen it in several places around the web...why the hell would they even consider her? If it's not, why not issue a denial? This seems nuts to me.

    Second is the Enquirer John Edwards story. I guess that cover will be all over the grocery stores next week. I'm glad Elizabeth Edwards probably doesn't have to shop for food, because the thought of her seeing it is grotesque. But, having worked in the entertainment industry, I will say that the Enquirer is at the top of the tabloid food chain. It was the one rag that, if you could prove to them that your artist had NOT been involved in whatever, they'd hold the story.

    The way to tell about a tabloid story is if it's all "someone close to the celebrity" said this or that. When they stray from that, they are fairly sure they've got something.

    And if they do, then Edwards is as dumb as Gary Hart.

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 3:22 PM

  64. Gordo..In 2004 the press fawned over the 50 to 60 thousand who turned out (also on the Portland Waterfront) for John Kerry.

    While I was there to see Kerry, lots of people were there to see Jon BonJovi and Richie Sambora perform.

    Posted by: Oregon Democrat | July 26, 2008 3:28 PM

  65. Are L.A. barbershops open at 2:00 AM?

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 3:35 PM

  66. "I'm glad Elizabeth Edwards probably doesn't have to shop for food, because the thought of her seeing it is grotesque."

    She's seen it patsi.
    She's a very smart woman.
    I'm sure John's in pain too.

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 4:18 PM

  67. Well, after reading this article, I find myself liking Barack Obama a lot more. He is proving to be very adept on the world stage and very aware that the most important place is the American state. I particularly like the last few sentences.

    POLITICAL MEMO
    Going for That Presidential Look, but Trying Not to Overdo It

    LONDON — He stood in the shadow of the Temple of Hercules, held forth at the Élysée Palace and convened a one-man news conference here on Saturday outside No. 10 Downing Street, all with a simple aim: to make a one-term senator from Illinois look presidential to voters back home in America.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/27/us/politics/27OBAMA.html?hp

    Posted by: EuroTom Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 4:19 PM

  68. Coreen
    A couple of nice posts on the media (sic.)
    I like this site quite a bit

    http://www.prwatch.org/spin

    Citizen journalists wanted. A writer from this site was among the first writing about Abramhoff.

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 4:21 PM

  69. Gordo is an acquired taste, and I now consider myself an aficionado.

    Posted by: champ | July 26, 2008 11:34 AM

    I am sure Gordo the person is fine. But just coming here to find every conspiracy theory article regarding Barack Obama and posting them hoping some will stick seems pretty counterproductive.

    I believe Gordo is/was a Hillary supporter, same as me. We've taken different routes after the primary season has ended. I wish he'd try to take a balanced view. Even if you don't like Obama, give the guy some credit. He really has shook up the status quo and maybe that isn't such a bad thing after all. Hillary did too, but unfortunately she was perceived as the "status quo". There were a lot of things I didn't like in this race for a nominee, but to keep piling up every conspiracy possible on Barack Obama's shoulders just is intellectual lunacy. I'm surprised that these strange bloggerss haven't already determined he was responsible for the assassination of John F. Kennedy and he was only 2 years old at the time.

    If Barack is perceived as "arrogant" btw, it could be the fact that he is a LEO... We leos are fiery people. his birthdate is 4 August 1961; mine is 6 August 1959. I happen to have the privilege of having my birthday on the anniversary of Hiroshima bombing and the birth anniversary of Lucille Ball. I've determined this is the reason I am somewhat of a comical person with an explosive temper.

    ;-)


    Posted by: EuroTom Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 4:30 PM

  70. Excellent ad by Al Franken regarding Norm Coleman's record in the U.S. Senate
    I think he really addressed the "jokes controversy" in a very professional and serious way.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQFaxnwJc8E

    Posted by: EuroTom Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 4:35 PM

  71. Ann M. Veneman
    From SourceWatch
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    Ann Veneman

    Order: 27th United States Secretary of Agriculture
    Term of Office: 20 January 2001 - 20 January 2005
    Predecessor: Daniel Glickman
    Successor: Mike Johanns
    Ann Margaret Veneman is the Bush administration's "likely nominee to be the next executive director of the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF)."
    John Nichols wrote about the prospects of her nomination March 27, 2005, in The Nation: [2]

    "Veneman is expected to get the job because of the defining role that the Bush administration plays in the selection process, just as U.S. pressure set up Wolfowitz for the World Bank position.

    "The notion that Veneman would be placed in a position to decide how to feed and care for the planet's most destitute children is every bit as alarming as the notion that Wolfowitz would be charged with providing aid to developing countries.

    "Indeed, as Ravi Narayan, coordinator for the global secretariat of the People's Health Movement, wrote in a letter to UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan and the members of the executive board of UNICEF: 'Ms. Veneman's training and experience as a corporate lawyer for agribusiness do not qualify her for the substantial task of leading the agency most responsible for the rights of children worldwide. There is no evidence in her tenure as U.S. secretary of agriculture, secretary of the California Department of Food and Agriculture, or deputy undersecretary for international affairs of the USDA of her interest in the world's children or their health and well-being.

    "'Indeed, her performance in these positions has been characterized by the elevation of corporate profit above people's right to food (U.N. Declaration of Human Rights, Article 25). Such a philosophy and practice would reverse almost six decades of UNICEF's proud humanitarian history and prove disastrous for the world's children.'

    "Just as it is vital for responsible Americans to object to the selection of Paul Wolfowitz to serve as president of the World Bank, so it is equally vital that we object to the selection of Ann Veneman to lead UNICEF."
    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ann_M._Veneman

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 4:36 PM

  72. I've got an idea to invite two new members to our group here. Look at this video and tell me what you think!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhmjnYKlVnM&feature=related

    Oh Corey, that's priceless !!!

    Posted by: EuroTom Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 4:37 PM

  73. This story seemed surprising for the L.A. Times.

    One world? Obama's on a different planet

    SEN. BARACK OBAMA said in an interview the day after his Berlin speech that it "allowed me to send a message to the American people that the judgments I have made and the judgments I will make are ones that are going to result in them being safer."

    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-bolton26-2008jul26,0,4549608.story

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 4:40 PM

  74. "But just coming here to find every conspiracy theory article regarding Barack Obama and posting them hoping some will stick seems pretty counterproductive."

    But Tom,
    Don't you think it takes all kinds?

    I always say "Thank God for the fanatics".
    We have them on both ends, and the rest of us are somewhere in the middle. The ends balance out the rest of us.

    The fanatics are the ones that get things done. They get obsessed with their causes and eventually create change. We may not agree with them, but there's always someone on the other end to balance them out.

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 4:47 PM

  75. Katherine,

    Thanks. The prwatch website is full of information that reinforces my cynical nature--- the "product placement" in TV newsrooms--- manipulation that is used against all of us regularly with no end in sight.

    Posted by: Coreen Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 4:50 PM

  76. Hi Chloe, I understand your point. But credibility is also important if you want to get things done. I don't even bother reading the links anymore because they are so "out there". But it's his perfect right to present them on the blog, and I respect that. I wouldn't have said anything more about it except I had read Champ's comment:

    "Gordo is an acquired taste, and I now consider myself an aficionado".

    Even so, I probably should have said nothing.... sorry if anyone was offended.


    Posted by: EuroTom Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 4:57 PM

  77. Can't help it, there everywhere!

    Barack Obama's Berlin Speech: Popular Today, but What Will History Say?
    Many speeches have been received one way but are remembered quite differently

    "A president has to be able to both clearly understand and also shape the context in which he addresses the American people. Presidential words are effective when they resonate with the country's political realities (whether the media perceive them or not) and when a chief executive has the skills to alter the context to fit the words. The degree to which Obama has these other skills required of a president remains unknown."
    http://www.usnews.com/articles/opinion/2008/07/25/barack-obamas-berlin-speech-popular-today-but-what-will-history-say.html

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 5:02 PM

  78. ." But credibility is also important if you want to get things done."

    Tom,
    I wasn't criticizing.
    Just thinking out loud - and asking your opinion.
    You were right to say what you said.

    I also very much agree with your credibility statement.
    Credibility is our most valuable asset/

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 5:04 PM

  79. I'd normally be WHOOPEEEEeeeee about "Dems Gain More House Races".

    But after Nancy Pelosi and her "impeachment's off the table" crap and the sad showing of this House, I now say that infamous one word epitaph, "SO?".

    tt

    Posted by: tiptoe Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 5:09 PM

  80. Corey, glad to hear the Wisc Dems are doing the same tactics to the Repubs. Throw the bastards out!

    I see no point in taking the high road with them.

    tt

    Posted by: tiptoe Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 5:14 PM

  81. Coreen

    Here's another one
    http://www.frontgroups.org/

    The two are part of a goup that have started from the Center for Media and Democracy.

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 5:18 PM

  82. Failing in Civility
    John McCain falls short of the standard he set .........

    "What a welcome change it would be were presidential candidates in our time to treat each other and the people they seek to lead with respect and courtesy as they discussed the great issues of the day,"

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/25/AR2008072503163.html

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 5:24 PM

  83. And the senate passes the "housing relief/mortgage bailout" legislation 72-13. (27 Reps. joined all the democrats in attendance in the vote) The bill now
    goes to Pres. Bush who has said he will sign it.

    Remains to be seen whether it will help homeowners or if it really only helps the lenders.

    "Drain on the Economy" by Matt Davies says it all.

    http://davies.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/25/drain-on-the-economy/


    Posted by: Coreen Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 5:49 PM

  84. Katherine,

    Another good one! The don't stop junk mail lobby!

    "The American public deserves to know when someone is trying to persuade them."—U.S. FCC commissioner Jonathan Adelstein, Thursday, Jan. 17, 2008

    This most certainly does not apply to our media elite's reporting this election season.

    Posted by: Coreen Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 6:00 PM

  85. I sit here waiting for my sisters and my niece to work out who is going with whom, and when, to San Jose for the birthday party.

    One sister just got in from Telluride ca 2 pm. Her daughter, my niece, has two other parties to go to with my two darling boys before she packs to go to San Jose. Me, I'm ready and have been for at least an hour.

    That's what my family is like - get everything done that you possibly can, and I'm just this lethargic slug
    who thinks you can't do and have everything. They don't argue as they rush by.

    I know I'm a changeling - the good sisters at St Anthony's Hospital snuck in a scrawny little Russian
    Jewish baby on my parents. I am NOT related to these people.

    The Old Testament is quite nice literature, esp the King James version. I can't say much for the newer versions, as they seem to be aimed at getting the story across as quickly as possible, whereas that beautiful Shakespearian-like King James version - well, it just flat enhances the story.

    Well, I've killed another 15 minutes and had better get off this or you'll want to kill me.

    Posted by: boop | July 26, 2008 6:05 PM

  86. 'Unhappy America', the leading article from today's issue of The Economist. It's an interesting look at our current malaise:

    http://www.economist.com/opinion/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=11791539

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 6:10 PM

  87. Oh, yeah, I also can not stand Bolton. He is sooooooo
    creepy to just look at to start with and then his mind.......

    Posted by: boop | July 26, 2008 6:12 PM

  88. Jason -- I doubt that you're around yet, but want to post this and hope you find it. This story about why Madonna should quit making records is gonna set you on fire! And, yes, there is a place to leave comments!

    http://music.msn.com/music/photos/enough-already/?icid=MUSIC3>1=MUSIC3

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 6:28 PM

  89. Good article in the Economist, Flatus. Thanks for posting the link.

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 6:37 PM

  90. MSN music, who?

    Posted by: sturgeone | July 26, 2008 6:54 PM

  91. Coreen

    I like this group too
    Media Island International
    Submitted by pirate on Wed, 05/16/2007 - 03:29. Do-It-Yourself Mutual Aid Solidarity
    What is Media Island International?

    Media Island International is a resource and networking center for individuals, organizations, and movements working on Social Justice, Economic Democracy, Ecological Sustainability, and Peace. We gather, evaluate, and distribute underpublished information on critical issues at strategic times.

    What is Media Island International's vision?

    We live in critical times.

    No longer can we avoid our responsibilities to each
    other and to the planet. The opportunity for the evolution of a more inclusive, ecological, and international civil society lies before us. At Media Island International we believe individuals will take these steps when given access to the whole story
    http://mediaisland.org/en/media-island-international

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 6:56 PM

  92. Great site, KGC -- Saved it because it'll take years to get through it!

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 7:26 PM

  93. Bethy
    I'm just catching up but your 3pm post is spot on.I have been thinking the same thing as far as multiple personality syndrome it seems the only explanation..I never tire of reading you and i think your swell!! Hope you had a good time at the party.......

    Posted by: tonyb39 Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 7:39 PM

  94. Coreen/Patsi

    This is more in tribute ..most people are aware of Common Dreams as an alternative news source.Lina Newhouser, the co founder died recently and this is a link to her obituary. An amazing and productive person.

    http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/07/21/10498/

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 8:01 PM

  95. Dick Cavett on being at the Norfolk, Nebraska comedy deal, and on being on the air with Johnny Carson:

    http://cavett.blogs.nytimes.com/

    Posted by: sturgeone | July 26, 2008 8:09 PM

  96. KGC -- I got a kick out of this sentence: " In 1980 she worked on the national staff of the Citizens Party, trying to elect Barry Commoner President as a vehicle for starting a third party in the US."
    ----
    When I got so disgusted with Dailey's Chicago Democrats at the1968 convention, I wrote in Barry Commoner. That was my first presidential vote.

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 8:10 PM

  97. I read her story and now I feel like the biggest slug on the planet. Her life is a movie/book --

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 8:13 PM

  98. "now I feel like the biggest slug on the planet. "

    Ha! Same here! An amazing life....

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 8:28 PM

  99. sturge -- great quote from the Cavett piece:

    "But the important thing was Johnny’s reaction. He did that thing where he exploded with laughter that sent him sideways stage left off his chair. I felt like a stock market must feel going through the roof, or the space shuttle blasting off."

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 8:38 PM

  100. Okay, one more post and I've got to sign off...

    Since the Obama supporters continually say we must start giving to the system and sacrificing, as if some of us haven't been working for the common good for years -- I give you this email I received today. And until those of you who wag fingers give to this foundation, don't talk to me about it again...

    Tommy
    by Rudyard Kipling
    http://www.everypoet.com/Archive/poetry/Rudyard_Kipling/kipling_tommy.htm

    While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
    But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
    There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
    O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind.

    You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
    We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
    Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
    The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
    For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
    But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
    An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
    An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!


    A friend of mine, Shad Meshad, started the Vet Centers when the VA was unable/unwilling to adequately treat the wounded warriors from the Viet Nam war. Afterwards he founded the National Veterans Foundation, www.nvf.org, which for more than twenty years has assisted America's wounded warriors from all of America's wars who continue to be ill-treated and neglected by our Government.

    NVF is a 501 (c) (3) organization and any donations - money or time - are always greatly appreciated.

    John

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 9:15 PM

  101. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/07/dems-gain-more-house-races.html#comment-120661
    Corey: I'm not really surprised at hearing this .. I'm sure it's going to happen again ..

    Posted by: Viv Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 9:26 PM

  102. 20,000 signatures still needed!

    http://www.hollandsentinel.com/news/x2043517192/20-000-signatures-still-needed-to-lift-ban-on-Sunday-alcohol

    Posted by: Corey | July 26, 2008 2:21
    =======================

    For a lot of years, Kentucky had the ban on hard liquior on Sundays .. you could buy Beer after 1 in the stores or go to a bar after noon for a drink ...
    About 1½ years ago, a lot of the cities of Northern Ky passed sales on Sunday ... now, farther down into KY, they still have the Ban, but up here, you can now get anything you want on Sundays ... I know it's been reported they're making record profits ...

    Posted by: Viv Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 9:35 PM

  103. Patsi

    There is another story that comes from Kipling. The man who had been the ultimate gung ho British jingoist paid the ultimate price for war, the death of his son serving with The Irish Guards. He never found the place where his son fell, and wrote this poem about the unit in which he served. It is from this poem that the movie "The Wild Geese" got its title.

    http://www.firstworldwar.com/poetsandprose/kipling.htm

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 9:57 PM

  104. interesting, from :
    NYTimes commenting policy

    What kind of comments are you looking for?

    We value thoughtful comments representing a range of views that make their point quickly and politely. We make an effort to protect discussions from repeated comments – either by the same reader or different readers.

    We follow the same standards for taste as the daily newspaper. A few things we won't tolerate: personal attacks, obscenity, vulgarity, profanity (including expletives and letters followed by dashes), commercial promotion, impersonations, incoherence and SHOUTING.

    Posted by: sturgeone | July 26, 2008 10:13 PM

  105. OMG I knew some the people who founded Media Island International. They were/are lefties in Olympia Washington where I worked at KAOS radio.. I remember that MII was looking for an independent broadcast radio station where there were no rules, no constraints, no rules and regulations that stifle some discussions and use of language etc. etc. As I recall they were not happy with KAOS' decision to professionalize more while still retaining volunteer programmers and student managers. Anyway, there is finally a pirate station in Olympia and a new community radio station:
    Free Radio Olympia 98.5 fm frolympia.org

    Free Radio Olympia is an unlicensed, direct action micropower radio station broadcasting at 100 watts on 98.5 FM in Olympia, Washington, Cascadia. We have been on the air since March 2001. FRO is committed to providing a service to the community by creating access to the airwaves and bringing unregulated, uncensored media to our listeners in the spirit of free speech and freedom of the press.

    KOWA-LP FM 106.5 fm kowalp.org

    KOWA 106.5 fm is a low-powered community radio station in the Olympia Washington area.

    KOWA-LP's mission is to give voice to individuals, organizations and movements working for social justice, economic democracy, ecological sustainability and peace. We also play music.

    ***********

    I am disappointed that they do not consider KAOS radio to be an Olympia media resource.

    They do list the local community paper I worked for as a volunteer, WORKS IN PROGRESS. I am my roommate Teresa would distribute the paper all around Olympia once a month. Dedication.


    Posted by: EuroTom Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 10:39 PM

  106. Do you realize how stunningly beyond belief it is , that our next president could actually end up being a person of intelligence?

    What a welcomed change that would be !

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 10:40 PM

  107. Gordo you most recent link is interesting. Tomorrow I will listen to the program

    Posted by: EuroTom Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 10:46 PM

  108. "that our next president could actually end up being a person of intelligence?"

    That would be true no matter which of the Democratic contenders had won. I doubt that any party ever put so many people on a single stage who would be a good President.

    When you looked at the Democratic bench and the Republican bench it was like the New York Yankees taking on a junior T-Ball team

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 10:46 PM

  109. so true.....and that just adds to the strength of the next cabinet and all the other support positions....so many talented, and smart people with common goals.....all ready to go to work!

    They better not let us down.

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 10:50 PM

  110. A Runaway Ego is Barack's Blind Spot

    "For Barack and Michelle Obama, the biggest blind spot is Ego Tripping -- the temptations of boastful grandiosity. It's Obama's need to be seen as Jesus Christ Superstar. They have to "remake the world," "stop the rise of the oceans," "we are the change we've been waiting for."

    The question is: Will Obama's amazing arrogance be noticed by the American people?"

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/07/a_runaway_ego_is_baracks_blind.html

    Posted by: GORDO | July 26, 2008 10:55 PM

  111. Gordo

    It is the media that is promoting Obama, he by himself is just a man......

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 10:59 PM

  112. Obama the Prideful

    "Only after striking out in trying to grab the Brandenburg Gate to cast himself in the same light as John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan. did he settle for a speech at the a Prussian battle monument relocated by Hitler.

    A campaign willing to showcase this large an ego without any evidence of modesty or shame is underway.

    History and literature are rich in examples of pompous, overly proud, and arrogant figures. They make familiar objects of mirth and contempt.

    The media doesn't laugh because you can't make fun of Obama. The sun would refuse to rise."

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/07/obama_the_prideful.html

    Posted by: GORDO | July 26, 2008 11:05 PM

  113. "The Dalai Lama praised McCain for his concern - while emphasizing he wasn't endorsing McCain's presidential bid."

    laugh out loud funny ! if you know anything about the Dali Lama, this is hysterical.

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 11:07 PM

  114. oh , ok thanks I'll look at it again.

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 11:10 PM

  115. UB "This is a true lesson for every one,no matter what you do in your life"What's the lesson?

    Posted by: tonyb39 Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 11:10 PM

  116. Has Obama even been mentioning McCain?

    Does McCain have to mention Obama's name to get press?

    This is a wild election season....unlike any other.

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 11:13 PM

  117. The lesson is, if you do not stay current, with all the various communication and marketing tools out there you will be surpassed by those who use what is known, and then you must also push the envelope further to gain more market share....creativity in marketing....never think everything has already been done!

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 11:17 PM

  118. The lesson: lie, steal and back-stab

    Posted by: GORDO | July 26, 2008 11:24 PM

  119. UB
    Yes very smart to stay current.I guess i never thought about it like that as i spent so much time on an assembly line.Very good point though for all aspects of life! Thanks

    Posted by: tonyb39 Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 11:25 PM

  120. have fun tonight....

    ciao!

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 26, 2008 11:33 PM

  121. He Could Be A Serial Liar

    "Maybe there is another explanation for Barack Obama's trouble with the truth, but I'm not sure what it would be. He did it again today, loosing a palpable falsehood on NBC. Not that it's a surprise; Obama coming out with a whopper has become pretty much a daily occurrence."

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/07/021077.php

    Posted by: GORDO | July 26, 2008 11:34 PM

  122. The very first XM Radio show hosted by Bob Dylan , "Theme Time Radio Hour" is being re-played right now.
    I am ambivalent about the Sirius / XM merger. I had Sirius for a while and quit it as I listen to XM all the time. I know Howard Stern is the popular money maker of satellite radio, but I just can't stand him.

    Posted by: Dexter Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 2:14 AM

  123. obama' s snub of injured troops in germany
    will be a excelllent campaign ad for mccain

    Posted by: mqw | July 27, 2008 2:29 AM

  124. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
    McInsane lashes out at Barack...

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080727/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_obama_troops;_ylt=AnzrTSNBrtpzGlE4bhu6BTuyFz4D

    This is about cutting short a visit to troops.

    Posted by: EuroTom Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 3:10 AM

  125. mcain is not going to worry about being politicaly
    correct like hillary had to

    Posted by: mqw | July 27, 2008 3:47 AM

  126. hillary never could go really
    after obama for fear of being called racsist
    mccain does'nt care who he pisses off
    he's not getting the black vote anyway

    Posted by: mqw | July 27, 2008 4:00 AM

  127. new york city yankees never do go to
    sleep i dont guess

    Posted by: mqw | July 27, 2008 4:13 AM

  128. Yesterday, while trying to escape from mainstream television, I happened upon the 60th anniversary of integration of the military ceremony in the capitol rotunda. It was on c-spans's American Perspectives:
    http://c-span.org/Series/American-Perspectives.aspx

    What made it really, really special were the remarks of two elderly Buffalo Soldiers, and a marvelous speech by General Powell, made without once referring to his notes.

    If you all have the time, it can be found on the above link. Obviously, fast forward to the ceremony. It's about an hour long.

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 8:08 AM

  129. Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 8:15 AM

  130. "ROFL! The German "press" reflects our own in its coverage of Obama:"

    http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/world-news/2008/07/24/Bild-was-in-fitness-studio/with-barack-obama-before-his-speech-in-berlin.html

    For goodness sake, Patsi, don't post stuff like that. If Chris was to read that on camera, he'd probably have to change his trousers.

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 8:15 AM

  131. Just a novel, but...

    'The Europeans Are Chasing Illusions'

    Dutch author Leon de Winter talks with SPIEGEL about his new novel, which is set in 2024, the threats mounting against Israel and the assimilation of Muslims in Europe.


    De Winter: Just because there is a wall that stands in the way of the terrorists doesn't mean that their frustrations have disappeared! Look, the age-old yearning of the Jews to return to their historical homeland has engendered the same desire on the Palestinian side: the return to the homeland. It's already a reality for the Jews, yet it remains a dream for the Palestinians. And, as far as the lower number of attacks is concerned, it's an illusion. It will only be a matter of time before they rise again. While we are sitting here talking, the smuggling of arms continues, from Iran to Lebanon via Syria and from Egypt to the Gaza Strip. Nobody can do anything about it. It's the calm before the storm.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,568154,00.html

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 8:26 AM

  132. Chloe, I keep threatening to reread Taylor Caldwell's 'Captains and the Kings'. Just reclaimed it on our last visit to our daughter's house. Here's a page on it:
    http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/c/taylor-caldwell/captains-and-kings.htm

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 8:58 AM

  133. flatus.....another you may like.....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Kills

    Posted by: sturgeone | July 27, 2008 9:02 AM

  134. Oh Lord! Chloe! Thanks for the DeWinter link! This quote is priceless!

    "De Winter: I am not a prophet. When I was young, I really wanted to be a prophet, sometimes even the Messiah. But that is what all Jewish boys at a certain age want to be. They all wake up one morning and are absolutely positive: I am the Messiah! Who else would they be? And then they have to attend school, and reality catches up with them."

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 9:19 AM

  135. Patsi,

    Maureen Dowd furthers the Bild lovenote in today's column, asserting that the Bild sent a reporter to stalk Obama at the gym......And provides Obama's comments:

    In Berlin, the tabloid Bild sent an attractive blonde reporter to stalk Obama at the Ritz-Carlton gym as he exercised with his body man, Reggie Love. She then wrote a tell-all, enthusing, “I’m getting hot, and not from the workout,” and concluding, “What a man.”

    Obama marveled: “I’m just realizing what I’ve got to become accustomed to. The fact that I was played like that at the gym. Do you remember ‘The Color of Money’ with Paul Newman? And Forest Whitaker is sort of sitting there, acting like he doesn’t know how to play pool. And then he hustles the hustler. She hustled us.

    We walk into the gym. She’s already on the treadmill. She looks like just an ordinary German girl. She smiles and sort of waves, shyly, but doesn’t go out of her way to say anything. As I’m walking out, she says: ‘Oh, can I have a picture? I’m a big fan.’ Reggie takes the picture.”

    I ask him if he found it a bit creepy that she described his T-shirt as smelling like “fabric softener with spring scent.”

    He looked nonplused: “Did she describe what my T-shirt smelled like?”

    Being a Citizen of the World has its downsides.

    Posted by: Coreen Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 9:47 AM

  136. The DeWinter quote reminds me of a conversation I once had with a rock singer. He said he believed youth was best described not as a time of doors being opened, but rather, as a time of doors closing. He said that in his case, there was a time -- starting at about 10 or 12 -- when he dreamed of being a fireman, a policeman, later a professional athlete or a rock star, and a bit later, a novelist.

    He said that life made the decisions for him. He realized he hadn't the courage to be a fireman or a policeman, or the physical ability to be a pro athlete. He had a talent for writing, but it became obvious to him that he hadn't the patience to complete a novel. With those choices gone, he said, he became a rock musician.

    I've been thinking about him lately because I was asked to write a piece for a local magazine along the lines of negatives becoming positives.

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 9:51 AM

  137. "“Did she describe what my T-shirt smelled like?”

    Definitely the downside of politics, Coreen.

    Here we are trying our best to get real answers from Obama and McCain about their positions on the US economy, and people are reporting on t-shirt oder.

    Once again, the media doesn't pass the smell test.

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 9:56 AM

  138. Here's an extensive listing of political blogs some may find of interest:

    http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/blogindex.htm

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 10:02 AM

  139. Chloe
    "Such adoration I'll never understand" Oh God me either.I feel just like i did during all that Bush love after 911 and through the runup to the war.I wonder if we can ever exspect to have objective journalism again?

    Posted by: tonyb39 Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 10:09 AM

  140. speaking of journalists objective and otherwise, wonder if craig will be in that hbo documentary series "thank you mr. president" about helen thomas. and is it only running on aug 18th or will they repeat it? anyone know?

    Posted by: patd | July 27, 2008 10:24 AM

  141. This is an article about what one person did to improve their own life and it turned into something wonderful for a community

    http://www.mercurynews.com/lifeandstyleheadlines/ci_9998306

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 10:28 AM

  142. An itneresting article discussing the merits of online reading vs. reading the actual printed documents.

    "Literacy Debate: Online, R U Really Reading?"

    The future of reading--Digital vs. Print>

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/27/books/27reading.html?hp

    I do prefer reading the actual document, BUT, the Internet provides such an infinite source of information, not to mention the ability to congregate with others, that it is difficult to imagine a time without it.

    Posted by: Coreen Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 10:53 AM

  143. Katherine,

    It is really great to grow your own veggies. But it can be most frustrating.

    I am surrounded by woods & animal life & everything gets eaten before harvesting, but thought I would try again this year to plant some tomato plants--only planted 4 in an area the landscaper had made for me last year for border plantings alongside my driveway & the woods.

    Well they were doing very well until about a week ago, found 2 half-eaten green tomatos in the driveway & noticed that the stalks were being gnawed by something (suspect a woodchuck that has been around recently eating birdseed with the squirrels & birds)---well, 3 plants are gone, stalks eaten through--I am trying to save the last one by covering about a foot of the stalk with a tube & wire-but I'm not hopeful.

    Luckily, there is a farm just around the corner, & they put out vegetables for sale (they use the honor system & it works), so I have again given up the attempt to be a country gardener.

    Posted by: Coreen Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 11:17 AM

  144. Patsi...thanks for the list. Great time already checking out some of the blogs...especially the islamic sites.

    Posted by: Blonde wino Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 11:19 AM

  145. "I am surrounded by woods & animal life & everything gets eaten before harvesting"

    Coreen,
    When I read your post I completely related to what you said about the frustrations of growing fruits and vegetables. My husband's always wanting to do more of that, but to me it's just not worth it. There's all the things you mention, plus the insects. Where I live, they are the major problem. Then the squirrels, ground hogs, animals and all the rest.
    ....................................................


    The Far Left's War on Direct Democracy

    A total of 24 states allow voters to change laws on their own by collecting signatures and putting initiatives on the ballot. It's healthy that the entrenched political class should face some real legislative competition from initiative-toting citizens. Unfortunately, some special interests have declared war on the initiative process, using tactics ranging from restrictive laws to outright thuggery.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121702588516086143.html?mod=todays_columnists

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 11:30 AM

  146. I wonder if we can ever exspect to have objective journalism again? Posted by: tonyb39

    Hi Tony,
    I don't know. It just depends on their ratings.
    Supply and demand.
    I've given up on it for the time being.

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 11:33 AM

  147. Coreen
    I know what you mean. All my vegetables are in jail to protect them from the deer --it's quite a collection of old fencing, chicken wire etc. ...I was quite dismayed to see it on the google street view of my house ..taken last year after the end of the season...looks quite trashy. I too get most of my vegetables from a local farm I subscribe to their farm share or CSA. I've been blogging about it . I never in a million years thought I would like raw collard greens but marinated like cerviche not so bad.

    http://www.seasonalpantry.blogspot.com/

    The google street view people have caused quite a stir here and creeped people out.
    http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20080726/NEWS/807260303

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 11:38 AM

  148. '.... rock singer. He said he believed youth was best described not as a time of doors being opened, but rather, as a time of doors closing."


    Patsi,
    I always love it when you share these stories with us about the interesting people you once knew and the ones you know now. Song writers seem more like great poets than anything else to me. Some of those writers amaze me with there introspection and view on everything else.

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 11:41 AM

  149. Chloe,

    Hope you & your husband have had better luck where
    you are, but in CT we have a short growing season, & while it is rewarding to actually see the results, I have been frustrated so many times in the past, I am going back to leaving it to the experts.


    Posted by: Coreen Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 11:42 AM

  150. " I am going back to leaving it to the experts."

    Me too Coreen,
    I made that decision a while back.
    We have a hugely long growing season in Houston.
    But that also applies to a hugely long growing season for insects, weeds and all the other stuff.

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 11:50 AM

  151. Patsi

    Isn't the heart of any novel often the single action taken by someone or that someone does to them that totally changes the direction of a life?

    Strangers arrived at the same place
    It woud have been a wonderful life
    These are the lines fate can trace
    You turned left and I turned right.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 12:03 PM

  152. Katherine,

    I realized it was you when I was reading Jamie's website--should have know since you often provide us with posts regarding food production/inspection.

    I must confess though, I am one of those who does not know how to cook, does not really enjoy eating (eat to live, not live to eat) & have not eaten red meat in so many years I can't even remember when (but I am not a vegetarian). I have been interested in your posts about different veggies, but do not want to intrude on Craig's space, but if you would consider discussing & sharing some of your recipes, I would be interested in pursuing some of them, please let me know at coreenesqatsbcglobal.net.

    And I read that google street view article yesterday & was going to ask you if you might be on it, since I thought you had mentioned you lived in or near Santa Rosa.

    I can understand the dismay of those who feel their privacy has been invaded.

    Posted by: Coreen Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 12:04 PM

  153. KGC

    I put up a short blog article with a direct link to your blog, so you might get some additional traffic.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 12:06 PM

  154. If anyone is interested, I was on a yacht tour of the Ghent harbor up to almost The Netherlands today and I have a new picture: http://eurotom.blogspot.com/

    You can also see it on http://www.myspace.com/eurotom if you'd like to check out my profile.

    Cheers

    Posted by: EuroTom Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 12:09 PM

  155. Jamie,

    And let me thank you for making so many various interests available through your efforts at your webpage.

    Posted by: Coreen Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 12:10 PM

  156. Thanks Jamie
    And Coreen..you've got mail!
    Second the comments about Jamie's blog

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 12:13 PM

  157. Thanks Coreen

    It's been a little off lately because of losing Rory, but All almost back to normal with this week's Manic Monday up later today.

    I should probably start a feature about all the blogs I visit and why.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 12:20 PM

  158. "I should probably start a feature about all the blogs I visit and why."

    Jamie, Yes. Please.

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 12:22 PM

  159. Sen. Obama: Why Don't They Want You Now? ver.2

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y3HTT82afI

    Posted by: GORDO | July 27, 2008 12:37 PM

  160. Alternatives to coastal drilling --Senator Boxer

    First, the president should tap the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. Oil from the SPR — which is 97 percent full — could be on the market in just weeks, and releasing even a small amount will help increase supply and reduce prices.

    Second, we need to strengthen incentives for oil companies to develop available oil reserves. Oil companies profit from tight supplies, which is why they are spending far more of their record profits on stock buy-backs than on finding and developing new oil leases. Congress should tell oil companies to "use it or lose it," and pass legislation requiring them to develop existing leases, or give them up to someone who will.

    Third, we need to rein in the rampant speculation that experts believe adds between 25 to 50 percent to the cost of oil prices
    http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2008/jul/27/congress-must-stand-firm-against-this-sham-and/

    too bad the goopers filibustered the bill to end speculation.

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 12:39 PM

  161. KGC
    Thanks.I still feel if Americans thought the Dems. had real answers to energy you would'nt see the desire for more oil drilling.I think Al Gore could be used very effectively here to get the word out.

    Posted by: tonyb39 Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 12:51 PM

  162. Chloe,

    If you like blogs where interesting people just talk about their lives, this is one of my favorites

    http://mouseski.blogspot.com/

    LInda is divorced with two daughters. One lives with her ex and one with her. Professionally she is an EMT dispatcher. Privately has more interests and activities than a cruise director. You simply never know what you are going to find from cartoons (done by Amanda), family trials and tribulations, travels to Boston and New York, bits of history and politics, an honor roll for the most recent emergency or police person to lose their lives. All that and she is a really nice, thoughtful person.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 12:53 PM

  163. KGC,

    Since CA has some of the highest petroleum prices at the pump in the US, what percentage of the pump price is taxes or added on monies? Here in Texas, I paid $3.77 per gallon yesterday and that is down from about $3.94 per a week or 10 days ago. There are about $.50 per gallon in taxes that are added by the Feds and the State. I have always thought the quickest way to relieve the gas stress on the American public is to either reduce those taxes or remove them totally. That, of course, creates a problem with how to make up the loss in revenue to the Feds and the State.

    ¡yo soy Horsedooty!

    Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty! Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 12:57 PM

  164. Senor Dooty

    Here is a chart of gas taxes by state
    http://www.californiagasprices.com/tax_info.aspx

    If I am reading it correctly --we pay about .64
    currently regular is around 4.29. It briefly went down but it now trundling ahead.

    Eliminating the taxes would be the fastest way to a lower price.

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 1:09 PM

  165. This is quibbling I know, but Sen. Obama has to hire a makeup person used to dealing with AA skin tones for cameras. His makeup for meet the press was way too "pink" as you could see when his hands got near his face. It looked very plastic.

    He is a very handsome man and needs someone who knows what they are doing to take advantage of that.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 1:11 PM

  166. Here is something way off topic, but think of the political impact of full disclosure.

    Former NASA astronaut ( he spent nine hours and 17 minutes of February 9, 1971 moonwalking, making him the sixth man to walk on the Moon) Dr Edgar Mitchell confirms ET visitation.

    This is from an interview on Kerrang Radio 23 july 2008:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=RhNdxdveK7c

    Posted by: GORDO | July 27, 2008 1:11 PM

  167. grrrrrrr...

    But as you correctly point out...how would we make up the money.

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 1:11 PM

  168. Gordo

    All the other astronauts politely indicate that Mitchell may have been a little short on oxygen to the brain at some point.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 1:25 PM

  169. What else are they going to say? Buzz Aldrin has been caught giving different stories about an Apollo mission. I first saw this on NGC. He later denied it on Coast, then modified his denial on Larry King.

    Astronaut Buzz Aldrin Recounts Apollo 11 UFO Encounter

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlkV1ybBnHI

    Posted by: GORDO | July 27, 2008 1:40 PM

  170. Astronaut Gordon Cooper Talks About UFOs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc

    Posted by: GORDO | July 27, 2008 1:51 PM

  171. Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty! Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 2:12 PM

  172. gosh here's that B word again...this time it is a fellow Repub calling Mean Jean Schmidt that. She is the one if you remember that called Murtha a coward on the house floor. What a B%$T#H!

    http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/07/26/jean-schmidt-is-a-lying-b/

    ¡yo soy Horsedooty!

    Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty! Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 2:25 PM

  173. If the definition is "unidentified flying object" I'm absolutely certain that we have all seen them at some time or another. That doesn't mean that someone else can't identify them.

    This is a very, very big universe. To think we are some cosmic accident that has never been repeated any place else probably isn't practical. MOre than likely millions of times over millions of years, but at the same time with similar stages of advancement without destroying themselves or their neighborhood?

    Any society advanced enough to cover the time and distance required is probably too darn smart to care what we are doing other than as a plot for their next universal situation comedy.


    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 2:26 PM

  174. "this is choice."

    The choice: Lying phony versus right wing wack job. Helluva choice. Thanks.

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 2:32 PM

  175. Dooty

    Love this comment on Mean Jean's apparell

    Did she jump over any cars on a motorcycle wearing that outfit on the way to the house chamber?

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 2:35 PM

  176. Senor Dooty

    The gas tax question is interesting. On one hand, I support cigarette taxes because the idea is to increase the cost as an incentive to make people quit
    but on the other hand, I am inclined to think the gas tax is regressive...even though we need to conserve it impacts lower income folks more. Still thinking about it.

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 2:38 PM

  177. I don't think McCain has any business being President, but it is almost sad to see him

    Watching Field of Dreams. I love Baseball

    Talk about better things to do with a corn field than grow fuel.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 2:48 PM

  178. And for those who continue to show interest in those pesky polls.

    RE: Gallup Daily tracking- Obama 49%; McCain 40%

    "A key question remains as to whether this "bounce" is short-term (as happens to bounces in some instances following intense publicity surrounding a convention) or if his lead will persist -- the answer to which will become evident in the next several days. -- Frank Newport"

    Posted by: Coreen Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 2:48 PM

  179. Some "experts" on the subject estimate that 95% of UFO sightings are explainable. Of the remaining 5%, many are probably classified military craft. A good place to start for those new to this is the "UFO Files" series on The History Channel.

    Posted by: GORDO | July 27, 2008 2:50 PM

  180. And the Rasmussen daily tracking poll:

    Obama 49%; McCain 44%

    "The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows Barack Obama attracts 46% of the vote while John McCain earns 41%. When "leaners" are included, it’s Obama 49% and McCain 44%. McCain’s numbers are up a point from yesterday while Obama’s remain unchanged."

    Posted by: Coreen Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 2:52 PM

  181. KGC,

    I agree that the gasoline tax is regressive. I don't favor a short term removal of the tax. I could support a permanent removal of the tax. I am also in favor of converting public vehicles and private vehicles to natural gas if applicable. Some cities now have the buses and taxis and other city vehicles running on NG. Right now we have more Natural Gas than any other kind of gas in the US. This would help get us off foreign oil IMO. The expense of condensing the gas is minimal. Autos can be set up to run both petrol and NG with the flip of a switch. Right now NG costs abut $2.50 a gallon in Ft Worth.

    A friend the other day wondered out loud what would happen when it cost more to drive to and from work than one makes each day.

    ¡yo soy Horsedooty!

    Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty! Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 3:55 PM

  182. rasmussan poll'' gallup poll '' usa today poll'' polls
    polls '' south pole '' north pole' stripper pole
    flag poles'' barber pole'' we still have
    two conventions'' vp picks'' summer olympics to get
    through before the polls mean much
    can't pay too much attention to a poll until
    the end of october

    Posted by: mqw | July 27, 2008 3:56 PM

  183. Since it is Sunday, here is one of our fun group activities because of a hint from another blog I visit:

    Jannaverse. http://jannaverse.blogspot.com/

    Invent a sandwich that will carry your name. List all ingredients.

    BTW, If you have a standard blog and want something a little more unusual than the standard boiler plate designs, Janna is a wonderful, reasonably priced designer of templates.


    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 4:10 PM

  184. http://washingtonbureau.typepad.com/nationalsecurity/2008/07/ns-news-quiz.html

    "a news quiz to test our readers' (and our own!) knowledge of some basic facts about diplomacy, intelligence and the military."

    This one is tough

    Jack

    Posted by: whskyjack Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 4:22 PM

  185. Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 4:30 PM

  186. Jack,

    That was tough. 13 out of 20 with partials on two more.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 4:37 PM

  187. Sending more troops to Afghanistan could backfire, experts say

    "More foreign troops, however, would do little more than turn more war-weary Afghans against U.S.-backed President Hamid Karzai if they aren't part of a broader and more effective counter-insurgency strategy....You win every battle but lose the war because you can't hold any ground ...."
    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/45654.html

    Obama defends overseas trip, 'I admit we did it really well' July 27, 2008 03:37PM
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

    Posted by: tess Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 4:38 PM

  188. Senor Dooty
    "A friend the other day wondered out loud what would happen when it cost more to drive to and from work than one makes each day."

    When the prices got out of hand this spring there were a number of stories in the local papers about people quitting their jobs because all their money was going to pay for gas.

    One example
    http://chronicle.com/free/v54/i44/44a00102.htm

    Sonoma County buses run on natural gas.


    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 4:42 PM

  189. Jamie 14 out of sixteen

    My mind drew a compelte blank on

    "9 - Name the current White House national security adviser; Director of National Intelligence; head of the CIA; and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff"

    I did get McConnell but that was it and all the names are familiar.
    I loved this one
    "6 - Name any five of the 18 member agencies and departments of the U.S. Intelligence Community"
    I shouted out the question to my wife and got
    "WTF? 18?" she was able to name more of them than I could. Also name three provinces in Afganistan.
    What happens when you do government marketing.

    Jack

    I

    Jack

    Posted by: whskyjack Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 5:17 PM

  190. That should have said
    14 out of 20

    Jack

    Posted by: whskyjack Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 5:19 PM

  191. Dooty
    Thanks for that Huffington Post link.Its really something McCain runs for President wanting to represent family's,just not gay family's!! How in 2008 can a man running for President get away with this position? I hope he never gets near the Oval Office!

    Posted by: tonyb39 Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 5:25 PM

  192. Jack

    I missed 5 and 9 and partials on 6 & 8

    Same story on 9. I recognized the names but couldn't tell you what positions they held.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 5:28 PM

  193. Posted by: sturgeone | July 27, 2008 6:04 PM

  194. Thank for that Max video.
    Met him last year, and as a side note, if you have any original Peter Max pieces he is very interested in acquiring them. Apparently he didn't keep much for himself.

    We saw him make trades with people who had Peter Max pants, and Peter max mini books form the 60's...he took the items and did original sketches in exchange.

    : )

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 6:19 PM

  195. I wonder if this guy is a blogger?~ ~

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7526628.stm

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 6:29 PM

  196. "McCain runs for President wanting to represent family's,just not gay family's!! "

    Tony -- Once again, the Republicans are trying to get gay marriage on a bunch of state ballots to get out the evangelical vote. But I don't think it'll work this time.

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 7:09 PM

  197. UB

    Fun with sentence construction from that article:

    "Police found the shotgun, a handgun and a stungun, as well as ammunition, when they detained Mr Walendowski in the basement of his house. "

    Why did the police detain Mr. Walendowski in his basement instead of a jail?

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 7:28 PM

  198. True

    But it is awfully rough on the bottom half of the economy while it is happening.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 8:17 PM

  199. "Once again,the Republicans are trying to get gay marriage on a bunch of state ballots to get out the evangelical vote.But I dont think it will work this time"

    Patsi - I don't think it will work this time either.The Republican brand is so tainted.In my circle of friends here in little New Smyrna Beach I maybe know 12 Republicans and only one is pro McCain.I think the rest will end up voting for him but with no passion.I'm hoping the lack of passion for McCain will depress the evangelical vote here and elsewhere and the anti-gay marriage ammendments will fail....

    Posted by: tonyb39 Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 8:28 PM

  200. Obama Selects Homophobic Anti-Choice Preacher To Host Him And McCain. Why?
    By: Kirk James Murphy, M.D. Sunday July 27, 2008 12:00 pm
    RW: I don't accept gay marriage....But I don't think that homosexuality is the worst sin....In looking at a hierarchy of evil, I would say homosexuality is not the worst sin...I would also say homosexuality is not natural.
    http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/obama-selects-homophobic-anti-choice-preacher-to-host-him-and-mccain-why/#comments

    Why does Obama want bigots like anti-choice anti-gay Rev. Warren to host his campaign appearances?

    Dr. Murphy in comments
    "False choices are great rhetorical tricks — for junior high debate teams.

    The Repub party moved from somewhat centrist public policy positions of the Rockefeller Repub era to far more ideological positionsin the Reagan/Bush era in response to advocacy and criticism by those on the party’s right wing.

    The Dem Party’s Prez candidate — like the Dem Party Congressional “leadership” — supports policies rightward of those held by the majority of Dems (and rightward of even most of Nixon’s domestic policies!)

    Relentless focus on how the Dem leaders — including Obama — betray their base is the same method shown be successful in influencing national policy for most of the past 30 years. Except, of course, then the technique was used by the Rethugs.

    I hope progressives in states where Obama faces a competitive race with McSame vote Dem. They can do so and still criticize Obama on every decision that runs against progressive values.

    Like cozying up to a right-wing hate preacher who believes being gay and exercising reprodutive freedom are sinful.

    To suggest criticism of Obama equates advocacy of voting for McSame is a very transparent rhetorical trick.

    Elected officials - Federal, state, and local - are our servants, not our sports teams. I’m interested in policies, not fan clubs."


    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 8:41 PM

  201. Anita Thompson (wife Hunter Thompson) on the Dali Lama's appearance in Aspen

    ASPEN -- My late husband, Hunter S. Thompson, said that he was a teenage girl trapped in the body of an elderly dope fiend. I realized something as I watched the highest ranking monk of Tibetan Buddhism: His Holiness is a teenage girl trapped in the body of a Dalai Lama! It was all very familiar, indeed spectacular, as I observed his demeanor during the keynote address he gave at the Aspen Institute Saturday.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anita-thompson/listening-to-the-dalai-la_b_115234.html

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 9:05 PM

  202. KGC,

    Dali Lama. People like him are so rare. Like, for every Mozart, there are a million Salieris.

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 9:12 PM

  203. Flatus
    Well put. Anita Thompson is a pretty good writer too. There is a great cartoon with the Dali Lama about the Olympics which I can't find at the moment.

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 9:19 PM

  204. this part was nice:

    7. Honesty, Transparency, Openness: Media People Need a Long Nose

    The media must have a long nose to smell what is really going on around the back of the neck of the positive face an organization puts on. "The media people should make clear what is going on among the politicians, among the religious leaders, among the business leaders, among the scientists, doctors...every field! The media must inform, to build healthy leadership and a healthy society. In totalitarian society, that is lacking.... The media should be truthful, unbiased, honest."

    Posted by: sturgeone | July 27, 2008 9:22 PM

  205. flatus:

    Beethoven occasionally shifted house for interesting reasons. In October 1806, for instance, his host and patron Prince Lichnowsky wanted Beethoven to play for him and some of Napoleon's officers, whom he hid in an adjoining room in his house in Troppau. When he found them, Beethoven stormed out into the rain. From Vienna, he wrote: "Prince, what you are, you are by chance and by birth. There will be thousands of princes, but there is only one Beethoven." Pro-Republican Beethoven had become very anti-Napoleon.

    Posted by: sturgeone | July 27, 2008 9:27 PM

  206. Salieri and many of Mozart's contemporary composers were not redefining music the way Mozart did. It was on this point that the court composers became jealous of Mozart, realizing that he was out doing them in every way. Their music was talented, but not a work of genius.

    Posted by: anonymous | July 27, 2008 9:29 PM

  207. Does this picture remind anyone of someone here.

    http://www.infowars.com/images2/Bush/cheerleader.jpg

    Posted by: anonymous | July 27, 2008 9:31 PM

  208. http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RS22926.pdf

    The cost of World War II (1941-1945) was about $4.1 trillion in 2008 dollars, and was 35.8% of gross domestic product.

    The Iraq war represents 1% of GDP today.

    Posted by: whskyjack Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 10:13 PM


  209. Supreme Court trivia quiz

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/or_20080726_7481.php

    Now this one is very difficult even with google.

    Jack

    Posted by: whskyjack Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 10:23 PM

  210. yeah - heck to the 4124 sons and daughter that were killed.....in an unjust war.......what is their value????

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 10:37 PM

  211. I would not want to be this button maker
    Oops! Wrong Larry shown on Idaho campaign buttons

    Sunday, July 27, 2008

    (07-27) 18:56 PDT Lewiston, Idaho (AP) --

    Some Democratic campaign buttons made for distribution in Idaho show an unlikely pair: Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and Republican Sen. Larry Craig.

    But don't expect the staunch Republican to throw his support behind Obama or for the presidential candidate to ask Craig to change his mind and run for Senate again. Apparently the button manufacturer picked a picture of the wrong Idaho Larry.
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/07/27/national/a185638D18.DTL&tsp=1

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 10:43 PM


  212. typical shallow thinking.
    36% vrs 1%
    What does it mean?

    What it means is, it is the economy, stupid, both national and personal.
    Most people aren't feeling the impact of the Iraq war. But everybody feels the impact of $4 gas and the fear of being the next layoff.
    At least that is one thing it means.
    You got more?
    Jack

    Posted by: whskyjack Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 10:48 PM

  213. KGC
    Oh Jeez!! Why would Sen.Obama chose this Rev.Warren to host them?Really disturbing if true.I intend to vote for Obama here in Florida because I feel it will be close and I don't want McCain... I feel sad about this election..

    Posted by: tonyb39 Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 11:01 PM

  214. Tonyb39

    I'm sure there is a nuanced answer. I'm with you. I don't want more Republican rule. I too feel sad about this election. I'm never voted for a Republican ever and I'm certainly not going to start now.

    More and more the down ticket races are important. I'm hoping to spend the last two weeks of the campaigns in Ohio working on a congressional race. I'll probably spend some time the McNerny race again even though he has been a bit of disappointment he has tough Republican challenger and I would rather have it stay Dem. I live in the safest Dem Congressional district in Country. Lynn Woolsey

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 11:11 PM

  215. I guess thi means it's time for a you-tube

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riOnVUJAo3k

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 11:21 PM

  216. Obama looks for VP who says more than 'Yes, sir'

    "I'm going to want somebody with independence, who's willing to tell me where he thinks or she thinks I'm wrong," Obama said in an interview that aired Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press."

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OBAMA_VEEPSTAKES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 11:25 PM

  217. Yellow ribbons made in China and the stuck on our American made SUVs....who's laughing...?

    I wonder how that "girl" who bought the Hummer is doing about now? remember that ad campaign "get your girl on" ?

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 11:30 PM

  218. Jack

    Statistics are well noted for their ability to tell convincing lies. GDP is all well and good, but who is reaping the majority of the profit from that production?

    Since all of that 1% is off budget that means that the money for it has been borrowed. How much is the interest and what has this done to the deficit. Is the interest now eating up the budget or is it just accruing more debt?

    Then there is that constant hiding place for all the deficits known as the national debt.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 11:35 PM

  219. While My Guitar Gently Weeps

    To me that is just a perfect collection of words.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHChc2I7FKk&feature=related

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 11:43 PM

  220. ""I'm going to want somebody with independence, who's willing to tell me where he thinks or she thinks I'm wrong,"

    Have to admit I still keep thinking 18 million votes, more than 20 states, experienced with world leaders, military, foreign events. Why keep trying to find someone other than Clinton just to say you did.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 11:47 PM

  221. She does fit the bill....maybe that was a hint?

    Seriously, with what a VP has to do....she'd be perfect......

    I do find it curious, that they are waiting so long to annouce on both sides....it as if the is a stand off.....

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 11:54 PM

  222. the = there

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 27, 2008 11:55 PM

  223. McCain is trying to find someone who wants to hitch their wagon to a loser.....seriously.....it's going to be someone who doesn't want or need a future in politics.

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 28, 2008 12:05 AM

  224. Governor of Florida - he's perfect, conflicted, and from a swing state.....I think he reserves his job - if the ticket doesn't win...not sure on that.

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 28, 2008 12:10 AM

  225. Obama Returns to Economy as McCain Assails Foreign Tour

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/28/us/politics/28campaign.html

    in case you missed this.....

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 28, 2008 12:16 AM

  226. KGC
    I sure admire a person such as yourself that gets involved and tries to make a difference.I have never voted Republican either and probably never will.I did however change to independent because of the DNC and their not counting every vote(Michigan and Florida).My biggest fear is I see the Democratic Party using some of the same tactics as the Republicans and thats scary!!!

    Posted by: tonyb39 Author Profile Page | July 28, 2008 12:21 AM

  227. John McCain doesn't know what hit him. He doesn't understand the internet, doesn't realize that there are thinking citizens out here, didn't think it was important to learn anything past the pledge of allegiance, and just thought, well I'm rich and I have a war hero story...let's go for it.

    Many unsung heroes have that story and much more.....doesn't make them fit to be president.

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 28, 2008 12:25 AM

  228. Tony,
    I would hope over time, you might be able to look at Obama, with an open mind....Seriously.. on so many levels , he is everything that we strive to be.....I don't quite know how to present this to you......but consider yourself as someone who might be discriminated against....for Barack he was seen as black ....and still is...there is a lot of prejudices that go with that.
    But he excelled......that in of it self is better than most...it wasn't a cake walk for him....he may make it look that way ....but I am sure he worked very hard to get where he is...

    You can't go to Harvard Law without some smarts. : )
    and you can't be discriminated against without remembering it.

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 28, 2008 12:37 AM

  229. "No matter how many of these events Michelle does, it will never equal the statement Obama himself made when he snubbed Chicago's Gay Pride Parade on June 29th 2008 and instead got a haircut and played basketball (followed by a luxurious steam) at the East Bank Club. That act told us all we needed to know about Obama's real support for the LGBT community.

    But, if you want another great breakdown on how badly Obama has always treated the LGBT community, check this out. And also remember: Sam Nunn, one of the most bigoted and homophobic Democratic Senators of the past 30 years remains at the top of Obama's VP short list (the man who fired two gay staffers in the 80s; who publicly embarrassed himself and the LGBT community by parading in a submarine's shower room to rail against gay sailors in the 90s; who concluded his Senate career by casting the deciding vote to kill federal anti-discrimination legislation when he faced no political backlash or recrimination from doing the just and moral thing to mandate equality for LGBT government employees and their families)."

    http://hillbuzz.blogspot.com/2008/07/remember-that-time-gargamel-sent.html

    Posted by: GORDO | July 28, 2008 12:42 AM

  230. yo Gordo - what made is a "luxurious steam" ?

    Curious, because maybe I am missing something.

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 28, 2008 12:48 AM

  231. "Quote of the Week: RBO thinks CQPolitics’ Craig Crawford absolutely blows all other analyses of Obama’s Berlin speech straight out of the Tierpark:

    President-in-waiting Barack Obama, having secured conventional wisdom in America, seemed to go much further in Berlin on Thursday — the presumed Democratic nominee now aspires to be the leader of Earth itself. And why not? Somebody has to."

    http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/page/2/

    Posted by: GORDO | July 28, 2008 12:54 AM

  232. WOW ----new lows.......in a very upbeat election......maybe we can call it "mCcainism" as in "seen better days people."

    got to give it to GORDO he has no limits

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 28, 2008 1:15 AM

  233. Gordo ,
    I sure hope you are getting paid for this stuff.

    If not, you need to apply, same work with pay.

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | July 28, 2008 1:18 AM

  234. Sen. Obama: Why Don't They Want You Now? ver.2

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y3HTT82afI

    (For Obama groupies - an encore)

    Posted by: GORDO | July 28, 2008 1:39 AM

  235. UB
    Thanks.That last post to me was presented beautifully.I can't disagree with anything you said.I hope your feelings about Sen.Obama turn out to be spot on.My doubts will go away once President Obama proves himself..........

    Posted by: tonyb39 Author Profile Page | July 28, 2008 1:40 AM

  236. Thanks, Tony, for your nice words. I enjoy yours, too, especially after a hard slog avoiding the slings and arrows some here set off.

    We finally made it to my niece's house Saturday @ 6:30, believe it or not. The party was the next day so this was just family, and the two boys, 4 & 1 1/2, played and screamed and ran around with their cousin, sweet Holly, 2. They were beside themselves. Uncle Gene held the 4 year old up tp pick oranges from the orange tree - just magical for them.

    At 2 am, the 4 year old got sick, and it went on occasionally for the rest of the party day. Needless to say, he and his little brother, mother, and grandmother didn't go to the party, but back home. He has a mild fever and a headache (the doc says from the vomiting) and he's so listless.

    I couldn't have made it as a parent. I am imagining all sorts of horrible diseases, and want to howl just seeing that little boy like that. His mom might take him to the er if he gets worse - he's somewhat dehydrated.
    They will be at the doc's office @ 8am, otherwise.

    The party was delightful, tho, and we're all back home.Weird weekend.

    KGC - there was a huge backup on 101 around Petaluma due to two grass fires. Too close to home,
    n'est-ce pas? Oh, yeah, and Yosemite area also.

    Posted by: boop | July 28, 2008 2:58 AM

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