Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

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Well, Jim Johnson won't emerge from the vetting pack as the vice president nominee, that's for sure. While not as serious as the McGovern and Eagleton affair (I support Thomas Eagleton 1,000 percent only to be asked to resign the next day), Obama had better get his act together and be more presidential or the Democrats will have shot themselves in the foot and lost another election -- again.

Craig, he should just pick Hillary and be done with it. He's already proven he's not about the "new politics"... He's wanting to use the same old consultants and Democratic insiders regardless of their ethics or questionable ties.

Are the Udalls who are running for Senate in Colorado and New Mexico siblings?

Does anyone here agree with Maggie's assessment from the lat thread that the Dems will have 58 seats in the Senate next term?

Craig writes: his remarks sounded like the ethical relativism we so often hear from the Washington business-as-usual crowd that Obama claims to be running against.

That's the whole problem -- BHO IS business-as-usual disguised as a uniter and reformer. His favorite tactic when confronted either about Rev Wright, the flag pin, or the MO tape is to talk esoterically about the rights and wrongs of the process of the media and the way questions are asked -- like with his having to vet the vetters comment -- rather than address the real issue at hand.

"I am not vetting my VP search committee for their mortgages,"

Yeah we wouldn't want to talk about housing deals in anyway. Not important. Move along.

Aren't the Udalls cousins? Bear try Google ;-)

Jim Johnson ran Fannie Mae, a Government Sponsored Enterprise. They set the conforming loan guidelines that were the safest loans originated during the sub prime crisis. How is that an issue when he isn't advising on mortgage policy and if he did, it would be more sound advice than from other sources?

Great news for Obama people! Dick Morris signs on as a fan...Read "How Obama Can Win" in frontpage.mag.com!

Craig...that is the second time you have posted about BO's response being "cavalier." Thank you for being so accurate.

Dick Morris? OMG !!!!

Posted by: Bear | June 11, 2008 3:36 PM
It's not about his work, it's about his personal mortgage arranged by Mr. Countrywide hisself

So...I'm at the gym the other day making the circuit of the weight-resistance machines, and there's this pumped-up Type A personality control-freak dad there showing his two young kids how to work out with weights. (which I thought was kind of weird to begin with, because they were no more than 10 years old). And he was leading them through the exercises like a drill sergeant.

Anyway...the three of them and me are the only people in the rather sizable room. The machines have numbers on them -- because theoretically you're supposed to go through them sequentially, but it really makes no difference and everyone ignores that procedure anyway and skips around. Different gyms have the exact same machines set up in different order. So skipping around is what I was doing...when I overhear the Pumped Up Dad telling his kids: "You're supposed to go in order. People who don't go in order are really just selfish and rude. They're violating the rules." And he just kept up at it for 5 or 10 minutes, addressing the children but clearly intending me to hear what he was saying. I just wanted to tell this jerk off, but I bit my tongue and completely ignored him because I didn't want to dis the guy right in front of his young kids.

My question: Does anyone have any rules they follow about confronting asshole parents in front of their kids? I felt so sorry for those kids as it was having such a humorless drill sergeant for a father. But I figured if I called the guy out on it, it would just embarrass and scar the kids further.

Thoughts anyone? Similar stories?

Oh...and sorry for the non-political post.

Patsi,

He's still bitter he doesn't get to play grab ass with the HRC campaign this fall...

LL unless he was physically or mentally abusing the kids, I think I would remain neutral. But that is just me. Sounds like a great guy.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

Lardass....
I don't know what advice to give you either.....
just want to say that putting your concerns for those kids first shows what a great human being you are.....

I hope Chopper knows how lucky he is.....

Little kids should not be doing training with any heavy weights. Low wieght reps maybe. But their bones have not knit (still growing) and putting too much strain on then is bad news. Talk to the trainer and see if (s)he could casually offer advice on using the machines to the family.

I guess that's as bright a line as any to draw, Doots. In a way, being such an obvious jerk of a dad over the course of a kid's childhood is like slow-motion emotional abuse, but probably not worth raising a public ruckus about. Thanks.

Sometimes I wish people had to get a license to be a parent, just like a driver's license. Hell...you can do a lot more significant damage to a kid than you can to or with a car.

On the other hand -- maybe this guy is really Father Of The Year and I'm being way too judgemental based on a small sliver of information.

Renee -- thanks! I'm going to go tell Chopper what you said...so he'll be good the rest of the day. LOL.

Nick...there are no posted rules at my YMCA. It's just sort of implied because the numbers are pasted on the machines.

BowmanC...I instinctively thought it was weird to see those kids working out, too. But I see kids on treadmills and elliptical machines at the Y, too, so I figure I'm just behind the times. Whatever happened to climbing trees, throwing rocks, riding bikes with banana seats and building forts? That's how we exercised when I was a kid.

LL no problem I don't disagree with your assessment about the lifetime of having someone like that for a dad.

I liked the advise about talking to the gym trainer about workouts with weights and kids.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

When you are doing a conventional mortgage or in his case a jumbo loan, who the F cares who did the loan?

If you started looking at everyone in Congress who got themselves a deal on their mortgages, you would have less than 40 who didn't get some benefit from a friend in the industry.

If I did your mortgage, I wouldn't gouge you. If I turn out to be a jackass, how is that your problem when you are purchasing service from me?

I just think this "vetting the vetters" thing is another example of a micro-story that no one but those inside the bubble give a damn about.
God, it's going to be a long road to November if this is all we're going to be served day after day. (not picking on you, Craig...just the political media in general).

Yeah...Nick...but once I start down the road of confrontation my Irish temper usually gets the best of me and takes off running. It's a curse I wish I didn't have to live with. If he even said one thing snide or sarcastic in response, we'd have been off to the races.

Yet another fabulous reason to stay out of gyms. They are the worst.

Maybe when Corey comes back on, he can tell us if anyone ever dissed or called out his dad in front of him as a child and how that made him feel. That would be interesting to hear it from his perspective.

Champ...don't give me another excuse. I didn't come by this nickname "lightly", shall we say?

Lardass,

Were I in your situation, I would have told the kids that only passive aggressive wuss bags are afraid to confront another person in a civil manner when they feel affronted. I would then let them know that if their father was using the equipment in the timely fashion that most considerate people would use it, there would be no need for others to jump around so that they could maintain their high intensity workout.

Clinton haters strike again

This has nothing to do with Clinton and yet the obamabots are still pretending they can read minds.

Those kids will find out their Dad is an asshole, in due time, your confrontation would just confuse them. In all fairness, he may be a good father in other respects, you can't judge on that scenario alone. Everybody has different parenting styles.

UPDATE: McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds emails:

Jim Johnson's resignation raises serious questions about Barack Obama's judgment. Selecting the vice presidential nominee is the most important decision a presidential candidate can make and one even Barack Obama has said will 'signal how I want to operate my presidency.' By entrusting this process to a man who has now been forced to step down because of questionable loans, the American people have reason to question the judgment of a candidate who has shown he will only make the right call when under pressure from the news media. America can't afford a president who flip-flops on key questions in the course of 24 hours. That's not change we can believe in.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Johnson_resigns.html

Damn, Bear...you're good! I wish I could take you to the Y with me. Except we'd probably have to work on a kid friendly version of the phrase "passive-aggressive'. Hell, maybe just leave it as "wuss bag" with no modifier -- they'd get that. :-)

Good move by the Obama camp. Obama's statement:

Jim did not want to distract in any way from the very important task of gathering information about my vice presidential nominee, so he has made a decision to step aside that I accept. We have a very good selection process underway, and I am confident that it will produce a number of highly qualified candidates for me to choose from in the weeks ahead. I remain grateful to Jim for his service and his efforts in this process."
Next time, let's be careful BEFORE we name folks like Johnson, who clearly epitomized everything Obama was said to be running against. Politics is phony theatre, but this was a bit too much.

By Big Tent Democrat, speaking for me only

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/6/11/145547/393

Obama supporters try too hard to make every sow's ear into a silk purse.

My friend Chris died today. She was 45. I had just donated money 2 nights ago at work because she was going to walk in the "Race For The Cure" this weekend.

Picture of Jim Johnson on CNN now, someone capture that and put it on wiki.

Very sorry to hear that Corey. It sounds like the end just came out of nowhere.
My sympathies to you.

Barack Obama shows his superior judgement by firing a man he should never have hired in the first place.
What a genius, what an inspiration, I can't wait to vote for him now!

Not.

This has nothing to do with Clinton and yet the obamabots are still pretending they can read minds."
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I give. What are you talking about

Were this Hillary, Howard Wolfson would be out there slinging mud at whoever leveled the charges against Johnson.

And if Johnson were a member of HRC's inner circle, it would take a long time for loyalty vs. candidate's best interests to play out.

A statement on its face false as well. You can't remember what you posted a few minutes ago? I will remember not to bother next time.

CS,

That's a good press release up until he mentions flip flops because that opens the door to the 30+ flip flops in McCain's campaign thus far.

If the question comes down to what is worse, one of 3 people you hire to give you vp choices quits or you change your mind about tax policy, war policy and you deny making statements that they have you on video tape as having made...

I can see how hard that is...

JeeJee,

Here's a good mental exercise I put myself through to get over my bitterness about the way Hillary was treated in the primary and try to focus on what's most important now.

If Barack Obama had emerged as the clearly superior presumptive nominee from a field of MEDIOCRE and UNEXCITING Democratic candidates...and people like Hillary or Biden or Richardson or Edwards had not even been in the race, would there be any question that you would support Obama over someone like John McCain?

I don't presume to know what your answer or anyone else's answer to that question would be. But for me, it really helped me slap myself back to reality.

So sorry I thought that comment was directed at me.

"he should just pick Hillary and be done with it"

His campaign has already said that the one picked should be ready to become President. Well 18 million people just said she was. Was he listening?

Corey -- I am so sorry to hear about your friend, Chris. We just raised money through the Avon Walk. Someday, somehow ... a cure will be found.

Corey,

Sorry for your loss. To say that royally sucks is the understatement of the year.

" Dick Morris signs on as a fan"

If Obama is serious about "change", this is one of those supporters whose supports he may wish never happened. Can't blame the man for the people that like him, but a statement that sleeze is not welcome might be in order.

Lard -- I don't think I would have answered that creep directly. I might have started to act like a crazy person -- singing, shouting to nobody in particular, using the equipment *extra* randomly, laughing in a loud, sinister way to some joke known only to myself. That way the goon would take his scared goon progeny outta there and leave me to my workout in peace.

Corey...
I'm so very sorry to hear about your friend....

please continue to give money every year in her name..... IMO, there's no better way to honor her memory....

I give money every year to someone who does the Avon walk in honor of both my mother and mother-in-law..... they are both survivors of breast cancer....

Jamie,

I never pictured you as the type who would demand a man skip the foreplay...lol

If he is going to pick her as VP, or anyone else for that matter, why do it now? If you are going to go early, do it in July when coverage will have degraded to the point of "Obama's fart just smelled like cheap tequilla. If he isn't at least drinking Patron the he clearly can't lead the U.S. because he was showing poor judgment.

God help John McCain if he's seen drinking a Heineken in the state of Missouri.

In some regards, we can say all politicians are whores. If that's true, show me a whore who is still a virgin. They may be drug and disease free but there are no virgins there.

LL

In passing, do an aside to one of employees:

"The Great Santini" was a real object lesson in how not to raise children."

My Dad is a complicated, yet simple man. He was the one parent that none of the kids in the neighborhood liked. He would often yell out the front door at the neighborhood kids, "Don't stand on the boulevard! You're killing my grass! Stand on the driveway. One kid named Marty talked smack to my Dad one night. My Dad said, "Don't make me come out there!" Marty said, "C'mon out here , old man!" My Dad ran outside and chased Marty all the way down the street. I remember when my sister got her learner's permit for driving. She took my Mom and I for a drive. When we got back , she tried to park the car in our carport. She took out 3 of 4 wooden posts that were holding up our carport. My Dad wasn't home at the time. All the neighborhood kids gathered in our neighbor's backyard and waited for my Dad to get home. They wanted to see his reaction. He got home and I pointed to the carport. The kids all thought he would blow his top. His reaction was, "WHAT THE HELL?!" Surprisingly calm for him. Another time my Dad almost got into a fight with 2 high school guys after a football game because these guys were revving the engine on their car. My Dad yelled at them for doing that and they both challenged him to a fight. Meanwhile , my best friend and I sat in the backseat of our car. My Dad said, "I would fight you both if I didn't have my kid in the car!" There are many stories about him. The biggest thing is that no matter what he says or does , he is never in the wrong. He can twist things around to make his anger or behavior justified. Make you think that you caused his behavior. He will apologize sometimes. But , I always look at it like this: "If you wouldn't have said what you said or done what you have done , you wouldn't have to apologize!"

The other thing was that last night we were told another woman at work who is younger than me has just been diagnosed with breast cancer and is now going to be undergoing chemotherapy. Thanks for all the sympathy. Work is gonna be tough tonight. To illustrate my friend Chris' sense of humor. Here is her show car. She drove this to work once or twice.

http://www.justhearsenaround.com/christineg.html

Corey,

I am so sorry to hear about your friend. Obviously, she wanted to go out as her best self rather than people know how close the end might be. That was very brave.

Lardass, what if I decided to go with the more experienced and qualified candidate? I think it would be John McCain.

LL

"If Barack Obama had emerged as the clearly superior presumptive nominee from a field of MEDIOCRE and UNEXCITING Democratic candidates...and people like Hillary or Biden or Richardson or Edwards had not even been in the race, would there be any question that you would support Obama over someone like John McCain?"

If that were true, his name would have been John McCain. : )

Now seriously, if I were in a toss up state, I would vote for Obama in a heartbeat. Being where I am, it is safe to send the message that I'm really, really unhappy.

I think there will be a lot MORE drama in the Democratic Party if Hillary is NOT offered the vice-presidential nomination. And if she isn't offered it, why wait too long? If there are more divisions from Hillary supporters because she wasn't offered, isn't it better to have that done right away so then the Dems can work to try and bring the disenchanted on board to support Obama and the ticket?

I'm still in the LOYAL category from that CNN article meaning "writing in Hillary's name", but I am still fluid. Usually when a really rude person takes me on (who happens to support Obama) I tend to shift more towards Hillary. .

I wish I could unregister as a Democrat but there is only one problem: in Washington state there is no party registration.

Like I said JeeJee...the answer was obvious for me, but I don't expect others to have the same reaction.

On the "experienced and qualified" front, here's what I think: Executive competence is really only one aspect of the job of being president of the U.S. The ability to lead people is probably equally if not more important.

Jimmy Carter, for example, was highly experienced and qualified -- but was seen as a mediocre leader. Hence, he's on very few historians' lists of "great presidents."

JFK probably had more in the way of leadership ability going than he had in terms of executive competence, at least going into the job, (see Bay of Pigs Invasion), but he is commonly placed on lists of great presidents.

I think Hillary had both capacities equally -- incredibly intelligent and competent, and a great ability to lead.

I think Obama obviously has great leadership ability -- and the executive competence is a work in progress.

I think McCain has evidenced very limited leadership ability -- just smirks and sarcasm, mostly. He doesn't give me the sense that he could rally anyone or inspire the nation to great heights. And I think his "executive competence" score only looks good when placed next to Obama's lack of experience. Otherwise, I think McCain would be fairly described as a standard-issue U.S. Senator on that front.

Give them and inch and the Republicans will take a mile.

In a June 11 editorial, The Wall Street Journal asserted: "[Sen.] Barack Obama may have come up with a creative way to solve the housing recession: Let everyone buy property at a discount the way he did from [convicted Chicago businessman Antoin] Tony Rezko, and give everyone in America a discount mortgage the way [CEO] Angelo Mozilo of Countrywide did for Fannie Mae's [former CEO] Jim Johnson."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121314375651462773.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks

I'll have to find out tonight about this weekend's race. The funeral arrangement's haven't been finalized yet. I know that I will have to help my brother-in-law take out the carpet in my parent's basement sometime this weekend. The guy the were going to hire to do that turned out to be someone who sounded very dishonest. He was a fast talker and he was trying to get my parents to pay him $1,000 up front before he did any work. He also said he had already rented the equipment and he was trying to charge my parents $240 for that. My parents never signed anything , so he probably doesn't have a leg to stand on. I'm just hoping I won't have to get involved in telling him where to go. I think he was trying to take advantage of them. I will find out tonight about my friend. I know that everyone will be sad tonight. I still don't understand everything right now. Chris did have a blog , but I cannot remember the address of it. I will try to find it as soon as I can.

Corey...thanks for the Dad stories. You delivered the goods.

Ah Bear

"I never pictured you as the type who would demand a man skip the foreplay...lol"

It's like that Jimmy Buffet line: "Love her long or love her a lot". I guess you are right. He could only appoint her once, so he had better take his time doing it.

lol

Well Well Well, this is certainly interesting...

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-kozinski12-2008jun12,0,6220192.story

9th Circuit's chief judge posted sexually explicit matter on his website

Corey
So sorry about your friend!!! Cancer SUCKS!! I know what your feeling.I personally have lost my parents and 2 grandparents and a best friend back in Michigan to the Dreadful Cancer!!! Sorry

"I wish I could unregister as a Democrat but there is only one problem: in Washington state there is no party registration. "EuroTom

You can still call yourself an Independent, and consider yourself one.

"And if she isn't offered it, why wait too long? If there are more divisions from Hillary supporters because she wasn't offered, isn't it better to have that done right away" EuroTom

They kept saying what a big hurry they were in to start uniting the party. So go ahead and pick a vp and unite.

Since when does Obama vet anyone he associates with anyway.

LL
I think you handled it just right.You no yourself and knew that your temper would rule you.Some things are better left unsaid especially if chances are the outcome isn't for the better.I doubt you saying anything to this man would have changed him a bit. Well done

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/06/obamas-vetting-blunder.html#comment-101132

"Micro-story" LL?? C'mon, choosing a running mate, and how one goes about doing it, is absolutely the ONLY opportunity that voters get in a presidential race to evaluate a general election candidate's presidential-level decision making. Whom they choose to fill key positions in an adminsitration is more important than all the BS that campaigns are mostly about. Personally, I wish voters demanded pre-election Cabinet choices as well. But unfortunately, the VP process is all we get for learning how someone would delegate authority and to whom they will delegate it -- which is maybe 90 percent of what a president does to make a difference.

I guess it's a good thing Barack Obama is getting help choosing someone, otherwise, only the lord knows who he would pick, John Kerry, maybe?

Craig,

Passionate opinion from our favorite tight rope walker? : )

I happen to agree that a statement from the prospective Chief Executive as to who is under consideration for running mate and ALL of the cabinet positions would be really helpful to the voter.

The instant Bush said Cheney, the warning bells shoudl have gone off. I am waiting for the Obama VP announcement to decide if it will be a third party vote or a Democratic vote. It is that important.

I will tell a story about my former boss at The Evergreen State College. She was a trip! Funny, strong, demanding, but cool too. She was once a longshoreman, used to drink a lot, smoke a lot and was really "one of the guys" (before I knew her that is). Anyway I heard these stories and that she cleaned up her act, found a man she loved and no longer drank or smoked. She got pregnant at age 35 and had a daughter she always wanted "Sena Mariah"... She was on leave for like 4 months and I filled in as Library Group secretary. Anyway, she came back and everything was fine... But she had this persistent cough...

I would bring some vitamin c candies from the bookstore, and finally she sees a doctor who gives her medicine for bronchitis. So finally they do x-rays and discover she has LUNG cancer. Not only Lung cancer, but stage 4 lung cancer. So immediately the reference librarians started doing research and everyone was sure she'd do well coz she was always strong and a fighter and the fact she was young played in her favor. What they found however, was that lung cancer was more virulent in younger people than the elderly. She began chemo and radiation therapy. The cancer was shrinking slowly... But 4 months later she got up to go to the bathroom and she collapsed. They took her up to Seattle to Virginia Mason and it was discovered the cancer had went through her blood and her brain was absolutely covered with tumors.

I still remember going up to see her two days before she died. She was so small, and her lips were totally cracked, she couldn't speak and her sister was rubbing her hands constantly and crying. I went in and said "hello Cheryl" and she turned and looked at me and I just started crying. I couldn't control it. I will never forget her head turned and she kept looking at me but it was as if I was a stranger. Of course she was also off the feeding and hydration tubes so I knew it wouldn't be long. I walked all around Seattle that day, tears in my eyes and I didn't care who saw it.

At the funeral or memorial service, her little baby was there.. she could walk, must have been a little more than a year old... and she saw people crying and she held up tissues of course not even knowing what was going on. There we celebrated Cheryl's life... dead at 36..

One thing the Reference Librarians found was that when someone quits smoking, after 5 years the risk of lung cancer REALLY drops. Cheryl had quit 3.5 years earlier and as I recall, the consensus was that her pregnancy had caused her hormones to activate the dormant cells that led to lung cancer.

Corey, one thing I learned. Even when you think you aren't particularly close to a co-worker or boss, when this happens, the grief is enormous !

That's right Craig. Micro. Micro. Micro. If it were any tinier, we would have to dispatch trained fleas to go observe it and report back to us.

That's right Craig. Micro. Micro. Micro. If it were any tinier, we would have to dispatch trained fleas to go observe it and report back to us.
Posted by: LardassLiberal Author Profile Page | June 11, 2008 5:19 PM

Did you even read his post?

You're right, Craig, it is important, but...

I doubt the "Jim Johnson Affair" will be a factor in November.

Does anyone here think it would be better if Bush were running the show himself?

The spin on this, if Johnson is the kind of person he selects to help select a VP, then who is he going to select as the VP. Hannity had Mitt Romney on his radio show and he said the same thing.

yeah right, Lard, when Bush picked Cheney to run his VP search that was a mere micro footnote wasn't it?

This guy is going to be hiring the people who run our Country. How is that micro? Obama already said he considered himself more of a CEO. So doesn't he even have to show you he's good at that? What do you want to know about him?

What I heard was Johnson was not forced out, he decided to leave on his own. I don't know if that is true or not, time will tell.

Champ, I don't think Craig is suggesting this will be a factor on its own in November, and probably not at all...

But on the issue of "change" and choosing the consummate insider, complete with shady mortgage deals, runs counter to Obama's supposed message. And in that, it shows either hypocrisy and an incredible lack of awareness of the up and down sides of people he brings on board. It's a issue of judgement.

Damn,

Hell hath no fury like a pundit scorned. Nice to see you're human like the rest of us, Craig.

Hannity was linking what Obama had said back in April concerning Countrywide and what he said the other day. I can see new ads being produced on this one. Obama was studdering in this sound bite. I don't know if Hannity doctored the tape a little but has anybody else heard him do this when he is not sure what he is going to say.

"If Barack Obama had emerged as the clearly superior presumptive nominee from a field of MEDIOCRE and UNEXCITING Democratic candidates...and people like Hillary or Biden or Richardson or Edwards had not even been in the race, would there be any question that you would support Obama over someone like John McCain?"

Lard -- had this campaign unfolded differently I would be voting for Obama despite my serious concerns about inexperience and who exactly is backing him (in addition to his ties to telecomunications lobbyists).

When BHO has a prepared speech or is on the mark I don't hear him studder at all.

The spin on this, if Johnson is the kind of person he selects to help select a VP, then who is he going to select as the VP.
Posted by: vadaryl Author Profile Page | June 11, 2008 5:29 PM

No kidding! How else are we to judge him?
Are we supposed to accept the idea that running a campaign is like running the country. Campaigns are about selling the voters the goods. Is that what a president is going to be doing?

Oh, Lard -- but this quasi religious direction he took the campaign would have still been a big problem for me as well.

Oh come on people, "Change" is just a campaign theme, for crying out loud. The DNC is running for president, not Obama, he's just a figurehead.

The DNC is running for president, not Obama, he's just a figurehead.
Posted by: champ | June 11, 2008 5:38 PM

Yeah, but couldn't he be a better one?

Johnson had all sorts of issues which guaranteed a bus toss for the guy.

Politico pointed out that he ran the Mondale campaign and all vp selections since with the exception of the Clinton years.

Now that really doesn't create a lot of confidence in his abilities.

Plus the NYT just profiled him and had a bunch on his sitting on compensation committees for a bunch of large corporations which is a hot button item for Obama.

Add to that he is the Vice Chairman of the Perseus Fund which is associated with Soros and also is the parent company of the publisher for the Scott McClellan book and the guy simply had too much baggage to be kept on.

One good thing good going for Obama is that these mistakes are early enough for him to recover from. But each one is being archived for the REP attack machine to bring back up in October. He's got 147 days to clean up his act. I have said this for months watch out for the REP attack machine, Hillary's attacks will be nothing compared to what's ahead. Today new ammo was added.

Paul Newman cancer confirmation

http://www.comcast.net/articles/entertainment-movies/20080611/People.Paul.Newman/

Jamie is right...my decision would be more difficult if my vote here in TN meant anything. I am making my feelings about MI and Fl and a multitude of things known to the party, that's for damn sure. And I just donated to NOW again. (and sent a note saying so to the Dem Natl committee when they solicited funds.)

First grandma.
Then the preacher.
Then the priest.
Now Johnson.
It's getting pretty crowded under that bus. Some of you Obama people should get up & give those people a seat.

And if there really is a "tape" will Michelle be next?

Each day I am finding it harder and harder to vote for Obama. I am leaning towards McCain or not vote for President at all. I will go vote that day, just not sure what to do about President?

Johnson had all sorts of issues which guaranteed a bus toss for the guy. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/06/obamas-vetting-blunder.html#comment-101209

What would be a lot more interesting, is why he chose this guy in the first place.

EuroTom....
thank you for that great story about your friend..... it brought tears to my eyes...

I agree with Craig.... I doubt it will be "the" story in November..... but it's the accumulative affect of those Obama chooses to surround himself with....

Patsi.... I agree with you.... if this campaign had unfolded differently and there were no convoluted rules..... no one district's vote counting more than another.... no caucuses...... just closed primaries with one vote taken behind a closed curtain.... and winner take all..... and Obama won..... I'd vote for him in a heartbeat....

patsi: not only elephants and women, Dexter never forgets, either.
I am writing about all the press stories favoring Webb for veep.
I was always opposed to Ronald Reagan, from when he showed his true colors as guv of Cal, to when he made it to the White House and bedazzled us with "Star Wars" plans and was so against the working people he fired all PATCOs at once.

Now about Webb...many are under the false impression Webb was apolitical when he joined Reagan's team and eventually took over as Sec'y of The Navy.
Reagan never would have made it without "Reagan Democrats".
Webb was a Reagan Democrat, not a repug who eventually switched for the first time to the Democrats.
I hate the Reagan Democrats for giving us that goofy, senile Ronald Reagan for president...we don't need a Reagan Democrat as Obama's veep!

After reading Michelle's Thesis, if this tape does exist and what they said is worse than that, then Obama could be in real trouble. For his sake he better hope this tape does not exist and keep his wife off the front page until after the election.

dogs eye

" but wasn't GW Bush choosing Cheney considered a GOOD thing at the time?"

Maybe for others, but for me it was like Roman candles. As it happens I talked to my very politically connected right winger today and happened to mention that I was screaming bloody murder at him over "shock and awe". It has taken a long time, but I finally heard: "you were right".

BTW, He is so far right that his contacts are definitely NOT supporting McCain. He is working down ticket campaigns and California initiatives.

What a bummer about Paul Newman. Still the sexiest man on the planet.

...oh , for the record, Webb called HIMSELF a Reagan Democrat on FTN last Sunday morning...I just re-read the transcript to verify what I heard Sunday.

It will be interesting to watch the swift Boaters against Moveon.org this election season. Who will have the best ads.

Vadaryl, I am seriously thinking of tossing a coin on election day. Should I give them a 50/50 chance, or best two out of three?

Corey,

I offer my condolences to you.

Breast cancer is a terrible disease that plucks people randomly from the families that love them.

Every family should look at the Susan G. Komen site; there is valuable information there.

Webb called HIMSELF a Reagan Democrat on FTN last Sunday morning...I just re-read the transcript to verify what I heard Sunday.
Posted by: Dexter Author Profile Page | June 11, 2008 5:49 PM

Well then, it sure sounds like he's lining him self up to pull in those 'Reagan Democrats' that Obama's hoping to reel in. Maybe he is going to be is veep. ?

We have not gotten to the conventions yet, and look what's happening out there. We still have 147 to go.

"What would be a lot more interesting, is why he chose this guy in the first place."

Well, maybe it was because he's one of the Bilderberg crowd....according to that article somebody posted, they put John Edwards on Kerry's ticket.

Best out of seven

"that was a mere micro footnote wasn't it?"

Okay not claiming to be smarter than the average bear, but it really bothered ME at the time and I had lots of fuss at the time.

It told me he was unsure of his decision making ability, too lazy to make decisions, or a hot head no input decision maker. All of those aspects turned out to be real.

Maybe if you use a toach screen just close your eyes and pick one of them.

oops you may vote for Nadar by mistake.

Dog -- Surely after all this time you would know that trying to beat me over the head with Roe OR especially my GRANDDAUGHTER is a fast way to piss me off. Part of my anger at this whole process, and the men and women in this country who not only condone sexism but refuse to even admit it exists, is on behalf of my granddaughter.

Craig...like I said, I didn't mean to single out your post for attack (and yep CS, I did actually read it).

Cheney was a total anomaly, with no parallel before and hopefully never one again.

This Johnson story will evaporate as quickly as it appeared. And I understand your point about Obama showing "ethical relativism", but unlike some, I am actually comforted whenever Obama shows signs of being a mortal politician. Because we all know the "running against Washington-business-as-usual" is a naive pipe dream, anyway. It's just a campaign slogan -- like mom and Apple pie.

I don't think Nader will be on the ballot here. It is a touch screen though, with no paper printout. So who knows who you're really voting for.

Has anybody heard from Hillary this week? In the past how long did it take for the runnerup to get on stage with the winner and do the dog and poney unity show. I think when Edwards quit last time it was the next day he was with Kerry or is that when his wife got sick. It may of been delayed due to that. But I think Huckie and Mitt quickly jumped behind McCain.

I use the paper ballot at our polling place, I don't trust the touch screen at all. The paper machine has a counter and I make sure it at least changes the counter on it. After that who knows what happens.

Make sure when you close your eyes that your finger will hit either Obama or McCain, unless you want someone else.

The best predictor of future behavior,
is past behavior.

Past behavior, then I am not sure about Obama. He has been around a lot of questionable people and are these the type of people that will make up his cabinet?

Has anybody heard from Hillary this week?
Posted by: vadaryl Author Profile Page | June 11, 2008 6:02 PM

I got an email from the Obama campaign want money today. They never had my email address and I think must have gotten it from Hillary's campaign. I'm not real happy about it.

"Webb called HIMSELF a Reagan Democrat on FTN last Sunday morning...I just re-read the transcript to verify what I heard Sunday."

This goes to my whole concern about people getting worked up about some of the new democratic wins in Louisiana, etc...the democrats being elected are conservatives.

Past behavior, then I am not sure about Obama. He has been around a lot of questionable people and are these the type of people that will make up his cabinet?
Posted by: vadaryl Author Profile Page | June 11, 2008 6:07 PM

I have found, through experience, that predictor to be true.

Should a candidate announce his cabinet choices before election day? I think that will help us chose who the best canidate will be. We can see the whole pictute besides just the VP choice.

I know that could make the people who were not chosen pissed and they could say some things. Make the list available at the last minute so there will not be to much time for reaction.

And that future behavior, past behavior theory goes for the DNC too.

We've never had paper ballots, it was always those old machines where you selected with those little switches & then pulled a lever to vote. I think if you actually asked for a paper ballot, they would either die from shock or from laughter. It's never been done, to my knowledge. Absentee ballots excluded.

I think Hillary is campaigning for Obama at some event this weekend, I can't remember where I saw that, I could be wrong.

Well, time to go home, take care of my chores, feed the livestock, etc. See you all.

Vadaryl

"Has anybody heard from Hillary this week? In the past how long did it take for the runnerup to get on stage with the winner and do the dog and poney unity show"

It was announced that she would be taking the regular family vacation for a month on Martha's Vinyard. I'm sure after this campaign she just wanted to (1) get a really needed rest and (2) get off the stage rapidly and come back when needed.

Past Behavior: If the DNC can find a way to lose they will.

Patsi,

I could give you links, but google will do the same. Keep diggin'.

I have heard this line from a few older folks “that young man is in over his head and is going to get this country into trouble". For our sake I hope they are wrong.

That's true , Tom. A month or so ago at work they said that wanted to start this little project called "Why I work safe". They wanted people to bring in pictures of people or other things that were reasons why they worked safely. I was sitting near Chris when this was announced. I asked her if I could have a picture of her to put up as a reason why I worked safely. We both started laughing.

More breaking news, plus a chart, on the incredible tentacles of the James Johnson story:

http://gawker.com/tag/conspiracy-theories/?i=5015615&t=the-handy-bilderbergobama-conspiracy-theory-widget

Craig,

In this town there two great PI attorneys. You go to one of these lawyers if you are in need of that specialty and money is not an issue. Both of these guys had extreme high profile cases in the past four years. That's just what you do.

In Obama's case, he needed to get one of the best people to accomplish the task to vet VP choices and he selected one of a few that has previous experience with two past VP selections in the near past. He did what people do with his special needs.

What would give him pause to stop and vet this vetter? Johnson had done this work the last cycle with plenty of public scrutiny. The moment he learned of any problem, the guy is gone.

I agree with LL, this should be a non-story. It will be a long time until November with these kinds of stories and pundits willing to make mountains out of mole hills.

Can we get away from DEM Senators for the VP slot? On the off chance that DEMs win the WH, we don't need to narrow the margin in the Senate.

McCain might have some wife problems after this gaffe....ROFL:

"In a speech Tuesday, John McCain vowed "I will use the veto as needed. I will veto every single beer -- bill with earmarks," he said, as rumblings from the crowd could be heard. "

LL

http://gawker.com/tag/conspiracy-theories/?i=5015615&t=the-handy-bilderbergobama-conspiracy-theory-widget

This was funny. Is Kevin Bacon on the vetting panel?

"Are we supposed to accept the idea that running a campaign is like running the country. Campaigns are about selling the voters the goods." cs.

Scott McClellan and others have talked recently about the "permanent campaign." The term refers to the theory that a president or any other politician can't stop campaigning once they're in office; thus, "running the country" isn't on their radar screen at all. We've all seen it in the workplace, too. So and so gets a job from some other employment and for the first six months or year or more all the new person can talk about is what they did to get the job and the job never gets done. At some point, Obama and McCain, both, have got to show us that they can run the country and not be in campaign mode all the time. Picking a vp is a primary step toward showing us that the candidate can run the country, even if it means the vp becomes president through death or impeachment or otherwise leaves office. Yes, this was an important step and not a micro issue. As I said before above, I hope Obama can recover from this mistake and not cost the Dem's to lose the election through a series of critical mistakes between now and November. How many days is it until then?

Jamie...LOL.

I was thinking that chart may explain GORDO's scarcity in this thread today! He's been a busy boy!

GORDO...admit it...you gotta love that quality of work.

For the fatasists: A REAL Unicorn

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20080611/Italy.Unicorn/

Dang, Lard! That link you put up makes me a true believer in the conspiracy theories! Every time I tried to click on it my Internet Explorer shut completely down! And I'm using my new YouTube friendly computer!

LL

http://gawker.com/tag/conspiracy-theories/?i=5015615&t=the-handy-bilderbergobama-conspiracy-theory-widget

This was funny. Is Kevin Bacon on the vetting panel?

Posted by: Jamie | June 11, 2008 6:49 PM

Oh yes, it is so hilarious that the world's most powerful people meet in secret, and even funnier that American citizens would question the lack of transparency from our supposedly elected leaders in attendance there. We should just trust them, they are doing SUCH a good job.

Stop asking questions, people will think you're crazy!

Hey Jamie....

did you notice that deer is called a "Roe deer"......
maybe we should email Obama and tell him we want that deer on the Supreme Court..... ;)

Chloe
You are so right.Its those questionable peaple past and present that gives me no trust in Sen. Obama and the fact that he never really admits wrong doing on any of his choices.Its to GWB for me.

"Oh yes, it is so hilarious that the world's most powerful people meet in secret, and even funnier that American citizens would question the lack of transparency from our supposedly elected leaders in attendance there..."

Champ. LOL. You're absolutely right. And I've still got two ulcers named Yalta and Potsdam burning up my belly.

Read Rez's post from earlier. Hiring James Johnson was essentially like hiring Orkin to do your termite work. Reputable, well-known company...yada, yada.

Then, if Orkin gets accused later on of ripping off customers, does that make you stupid or irresponsible for hiring them? I don't think so.

"You had a lot of help from younger folks, it's true, but please do better this time. "

"YOU"????? Who are you talking to on this board?

I sure as hell didn't vote for George Bush. Despite his running as an outsider who offered hope and change and was a uniter not a divider....

Dog. Agreed.

That said, wake me up if Obama chooses Johnson as his V.P. running mate. Then I'll be worried.

I really do hope Webb stands up to the scrutiny and doesn't have something like a "nanny problem" or whatever. I think he'd be the best running mate.

"Think of the America you love and the country you want to leave better for your stewardship of it."

Please stop with the superiority. Jeezus! I don't need the morality police wagging fingers at me. It sounds exactly like the Bush people a few years ago.

Patsi,

Yeah, Obama sure is starting to seem like a Democratic GWB...

Watch this video, have a vomit bag handy:

GWB Rhetoric during 2000 Debates

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MpTNdcM_e0

LL,
Like the analogy, but could you have thought of some other example besides pest control LOL. Takes the edge off of it.

Sorry Champ -- I can't stand to watch George Bush. I flip the channel every time he comes on. Haven't heard one speech or news conference. He makes me sick to my stomach.

You have to watch it, Patsi- your duty as an American. Stuff will start making more sense after you do.

LL

Did you note that there was a comment where the conspiracy deepens even more with

THEY RULE

http://www.theyrule.net/

Rez...LOL. I can't explain why Orkin came to mind. I was just trying to think of a national brand that folks could relate to. But come to think of it, VP selection probably has a lot more in common with "pest control" than any of us would care to consider.

Patsi...did you happen to see Rick Perry's presser today on the burned-down Texas governor's mansion? It's like all Republican Texas governors have to go through some sort of fumbling, bumbling dumbass school of public speaking. If I'd have closed my eyes, I would have sworn it was W himself. Same diction. Same halting pronunciations. It was creepy.

Jamie. I'm scared to click that link, just based on the domain name. I'd rather spraypaint my Social Security Number to my garage door!

Molly Ivins used to call Rick Perry Gov Good Hair.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

" It's like all Republican Texas governors have to go through some sort of fumbling, bumbling dumbass school of public speaking."

Maybe it's the water in the Gov. mansion, and they'll replace the pipes now.....

It was a beautiful old building before the fire.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

Tony darling you are making me crazy. I don't normally comment on typos or misspellings, but this one is too common to be an accident

PEOPLE is spelled with an o not an a. : )

Your friendly neighborhood editor of 30+ years.

It was a beautiful old building before the fire.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty! | June 11, 2008 7:42 PM

The Reichstag, or the governor's mansion?

"It was a beautiful old building before the fire. "

Dooty -- have the determined if this was arson?

Champ
Bush
If you give me your trust I will honor It. Makes sense to me !!! The very reason why trusting Sen.Obama is important.The video puts things in perspective.

Patsi,

I have not heard any new updates but the last I heard was that they did suspect arson. No one was living there at the time as the building has been going thru a major overhaul this year. I guess it will really get the going over now. Shame, really too damn bad.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

Jamie
Thankyou.Will give the preview a little more use.

"You had a lot of help"

Dog's Eye

I'm with Patsi on this one. The blanket "You" isn't correct or fair. I didn't vote for GWB in either election and I absolutely did not support the IRAQ invasion.

Maybe in all the excavation they'll find the remote that Dick Cheney used to control W back in the days of cable.

You know, the remote he used before he switched to DirectTV.

does today's 251-166 vote on articles of impeachment have legs?

Coupla typos in my last post. I meant to say...

"Maybe in all the excavation they'll find the remote that Dick Cheney used to control W back in the days of cabal.

You know, the remote he used before he switched to DirectVP."

Fact of the day: Dick Cheney was born just four months before Bob Dylan.

" guess it will really get the going over now. Shame, really too damn bad."

I think one of the first times I was disillusioned with the world was when I was about 13, and spending a couple of weeks in Topeka, Kansas with my sister and her husband. There was a huge story in the newspaper about a mansion that had been vandalized. The owners were gone for the summer, and the house was closed up. Somebody jimmied a window and instead of stealing anything, they ran a garden hose into this room and turned on a sprinkler. It ran for over a week before somebody who checked up on the house came by and found it.

It turned out that this room was a music room, with rare violins, pianos, amazing antique furniture and fine art on the walls. The paper had before and after photos. I believe it turned out to be some neighbor boys, wealthy teens, who thought it would be funny as hell.

I kept that paper for a long time because I just couldn't understand the thrill. I would have understood a robbery. But to destroy those items like that seemed pathological.

Okay. My rule is that if at least three of the last four posts are yours, you're just talking to yourself. So I'm signing off.

Night folks.

night, john boy; but first you've got to apologize to craig for belittling his efforts for the day.

Lardass.......bad rule.......lol

sometimes you have to take the bull by the tail and face the situation.......

--WCFields

corey......that's a real bummer about your friend.........

patsi........"lord of the flies"

PatD...why would I have to apologize? Expressing an opinion in a civil fashion is a basic free-speech right. Is Craig a God? Are we not allowed to disagree?

You sound like some sort of ayatollah going after Rushdie.

I'm not apologizing for jack. Peddle your goods elsewhere.

And I'm sure Craig would agree, by the way. If he's built this blog for any reason, it's certainly not as a cult of personality. It's as an honest meeting place for smart people.

COREY: sorry for your loss .. love her car & it does show her sense of humor!!!

lol

Rushdie judgement.

Sturge...LOL..But sometimes, you just have to make the next Martini and settle in by the radio.

i wish i knew how to spell messieur........

Sr Horse.......did you take pictures of the house?

there's something on the radio?

Sr Horse.......did you take pictures of the house?

no never did. Been by there a bunch but lots of security there also.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

the next post is false.

Sturge -- "Flies" -- good call.

the last post is true.

rats.....interception.......

patsi.....yup.......lotsa explanations in the old kill the pig book......

Top of the Ticket
James Carville plops Al Gore's name on Obama's VP plate

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/

no flies on carville.....lol

Sturgeone,
You look like you're having a lot of fun tonight.

I agree Patsi, I have never understood destruction for the sake of destruction. Graffiti the same way. There is a tree near the Gov Mansion that is very old and large. Old Oak tree. Several years ago some pendejo tried to kill it by poisoning it. I think they saved it but I am kinda shaky on that fact . People have no respect anymore or so it seems.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

pizza and beer......takes me back to the EM at E city......now i have to play "Don't Let Me Down" by los beatles and god's in all of his various heavens......

doots........some kids build treehouses, and some kids find them and tear them down..........for thousands of years.......

The Obama-McCain veepstakes
Obama's and McCain's picks should amplify their messages

..."If Barack Obama wants to compensate for perceived inexperience on national security, he could choose Sen. Jim Webb or Sen. Joe Biden. If John McCain wants to assure himself victory in Florida, he could choose Gov. Charlie Crist. If either campaign wants to choose someone the country trusts, they could both turn to "Top Chef's" voice of experience, Tom Colicchio."

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-klein-mcardle11-2008jun11,0,3195321.story

Draft Al Franken for VP

Politicians could learn something about acceptance of responsibility:

CSAF sends letter to all Airmen

http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?storyID=123102371

Sure he could have done better, but considering John McCain decided to make the ultimate blunder (especially if you have a loved one in Iraq) today, I'm not sure the story will last beyond tomorrow.

My thought as a pragmatist was that there can't be that many people who can step in late in the game and head the vetting process for VP, so it makes sense to go to the guy who just did it in the last general election.

Here is my friend's blog. Her last post was on Sunday. She ended it with a cryptic line. I think she knew.

http://rosechemo.blogspot.com/

the one kerry lost?

[tap-tap-tap].........is this thing on?

--Lester "Roadhog" Moran, live at Johnny Mack Brown High School.

BTW , I went to my parents condo tonight. We tore up 75% of all the carpet in the basement. Their basement is trashed and it smells terrible. I feel sorry for Mom. You know , I was off work for two weeks and everything was fine. The week I go back to work is nothing but bad news.

Yeah, why didn't I ever think of that?

John Kerry lost a war-time election against a team of sociopaths who terrorized the country...all because he had this dude vet his VP candidates....

How clever.

I read her post wrong. Nevermind.

i rather thought you'd think so........

who did kerry pick again?

Kerry's campaign began the process of searching for a vice-presidential nominee, sometimes called the "Veepstakes", shortly after Kerry's Super Tuesday victories. Kerry named Jim Johnson, former advisor to Vice President Walter F. "Fritz" Mondale, as the head of a vice-presidential search process.

One of the major criteria considered to be a factor in selecting a vice-presidential candidate was the ability to deliver a traditionally Republican or a swing state in the November election. Every successful Democratic presidential campaign since 1960 has included a politician from a swing state (usually in the South) who helped deliver one or more states for the Democrats.

By the first week of July 2004, pundits and those close to the Kerry campaign indicated that the vice-presidential selection had narrowed to three potential choices: U.S. Sen. John R. Edwards (N.C.), U.S. Rep. Richard A. "Dick" Gephardt (Mo.), and Iowa Gov. Thomas J. Vilsack, all of whom were reportedly instructed to clear their calendars for a potential announcement during the second week of July. Edwards, from North Carolina, is a Southerner; the other two, from Missouri and Iowa respectively, are Midwesterners (the Midwest is viewed as a key region containing numerous swing states). As of late June, the charismatic Edwards was the first choice of Democratic voters, according to several polls; some pundits attributed this to high name recognition, due to his runner-up status in the primaries.

yes, i see it, now.......golly was I blind.......

patd

No legs. It will get referred to committee and time will run out and he will be out of office before anything could happen. The deal was made before hand with the Republicans. It could get read into the record and then disappear with a whimper rather than a bang.

we can sustain heavy clinton casualties and still win this war.........

Dr. Strangeglow

Senor Big Fish

The true false statement. My son and I were doing that tonight with

All politicians are liars
I am a politician

no soy beega feesh........soy leetla feesh......beega ponda.......
pero........savio contra tempo e' pazzo......

Third round of the Dem version of VP madness is now open

http://innovation.cq.com/vpmadness

Sturgeone,

you still making boxes for a living?

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

Mr. Little Fish in Big Pond

Ancora sto ridendo

sr caballo........boxes.......si.........i call it Box Canyon.......little big fish in the land of the little boxes made of ticky tacky throwing boxes thereinto........and seeing now and then, the beach......it's a wonderment..........

Doots -- I think you mean the Treaty Oak which is about 6 blocks fro the Gov's Mansion.:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_Oak,_Austin

jamie......i done went to de sto.......

Nick

Bad case of the sillys. Senor Horsedooty mangles Spanish. Mr. Stugeone (which is a fish) slaughters Italian and I cheat with Babel Fish

Sturgeone,

I tink you may be under alcofluence.

jamie.....wouldnt surprise me a bit......wouldnt be the first beautiful thing i was ever under......

Hey

Great news for McCain
39% of Hillary supporters
Won't vote for Obama!!!

NBC/WSJ poll
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25096620/

Obama only polls 61%
With Hillarys supporters.

Whooo hoo!!!
McCain dominates
In the suburbs.
suburban women
44- 38

Hey
Look out
My Man is doing it.
LOL
Obama got a
3point bump
LOL
Should have seen
10 points.

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided government
Vote McCain

for instance at one time i spent many hours under a '56 chevy convertible.......

puggo.....i can dig your schtick, but surely you know that mccain jive aint gonna get up off the ground......i mean, Dude......smell the coffee.......

What were you doing under a '56 Chevy. All the fun was inside one. : p

johnny bond:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMjKq9ER2EQ

jamie......for each moment of sheer ecstasy inside the ' 56 chevy......just like real life......there were grueling hours splashing the grease and sweating the small shit underneath........small price to pay........

Time for me to say goodnight. Tell the night shift I said enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0ns8t9iQck

yep.....im gonna take a long hard look at one more of those bored-weisers and see if i can figure out why there are two tv's in my room...........oh.....never mind......one of them is a computer..........

Hey
Sturgeone
YOU SHOULD BE RIGHT!!!!
Bush approval in the tank.
gas ? Whats gas?

No Jobs
.
McCain should be dead.
Is he?
Not so much
Why?

LOL
Obama Sucks.

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided government
Vote McCain

yeah, but...........

i think i got in 3 yeah but's today.........

caelum non animum mutant qui trans mare currunt......

Hey
Sturgeone

Last month
Obama out raised God
For money
But
burn rate was 114%
What did he win?
Damn near nothing.
Money
can't buy an election
If the man stinks.

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided government
Vote McCain

yeah, but.........

Hey
Calamazoo and ivy too
Buy a gazoo for you

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided government
Vote McCain

puggity..........which god?

Hey
Bush says

"we'll give diplomacy a chance to work,"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/11/bush-wont-rule-out-iran-m_n_106609.html

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided Government
Vote McCain

Hey
Which God?
thou art god
Then again
WTF
So am I
And silly Bri Bri

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided government
Vote Mccain

war is god's way of teaching americans geography.

--ambrose bierce

(daily show)_

i gonna go watch spalding grey now.......good look on youballs.......

Pugnacious Ramone

lol

Hey

Guess what
real republicans
Look around and say
"WTF
We should be losing.
Yea Obama.
Idiot."
LOL

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided government
Vote McCain

In picking the VP, we are looking at who might be the NEXT president. Very important, IMHO.

The early polls show Obama ahead, but the early polls, before, showed Hillary ahead. Here's hoping he holds the lead over McBush.

tt

LOL

Dream on
Baby
Dream on
Michigan likes McCain

Bye Bye Obama
LOL

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided government
Vote Mccain

Why in God's name would the buckle on the rust belt, Michigan, like McBush? I hardly think that anyone there would vote against their best interest.

tt

Pug

Friends don't let friends vote for fake Republicans
Vote less government
Vote Ron Paul

Hey

"I'm not asking Barack Obama to vet the vetters. I'm just asking him to Google them."
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZmJjYzg1MTM0MzRkZGRiYmI5NmE4NDM2MWNkZjE1OWY=

LOL

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided government
Vote McCain

It doesn't behove any regular person living between Detroit and Syracuse, NY to vote Republican. That whole area's beyond dying. It's dead, Jim, except for the rich.

tt

Hey
Champ

I wish.
Paul can't win.

Obama win = left wing nuts in control
Obama win= Bush win

No more wingnuts!!

Divided government = best government
Here read this
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3088

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided Government
Vote McCain

"night, john boy; but first you've got to apologize to craig for belittling his efforts for the day. -- Posted by: patd"

appreciate the sentiment, patd, but no one ever owes me an apology for such a thing. LL offered a strong case for his point of view, and that's what we're all about here. We had a fun debate without rancor there. All good.

Hey
Arizona vote
Liberal wingnut?

LOL
G1

What U smoking
Come on share.

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided government
Vote McCain

great read today, thanks all. and good night. we are so the waltons sometimes.

Why can't Paul win?

I just want to hear you say it.

Cuz you know
as well as I do
McCain=Obama

as far as Iran/Iraq is concerned
at least

Hey

New York
Long way from
Arizona.

New York
vote liberal wingnut?
True
Arizona?
LOL

New Yorker
Not very smart.

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided Government
Vote McCain

Hey
Champ

"Why can't Paul win?"

Not in the race!!!

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided government
Vote McCain

It's funny,

You can only argue against people with whom you fundamentally agree, and even they don't like you.

Did I say funny? I meant sad.

Yeah he is... Down to 2, buddy!

"And friends, somewhere in Washington enshrined in some little folder, is a
study in black and white of my fingerprints.

And the only reason I'm singing you this song now is cause you may know somebody in a similar situation, or you may be in a similar situation, and if your in a situation like that there's only one thing you can do
and that's walk into the shrink wherever you are , just walk in say

"Ron Paul".

And walk out.

You know, if one person, just one person does it they may think he's really sick and they won't take him. And if two people, two people do it, in harmony,
they may think they're both faggots and they won't take either of them.

And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in
singin a bar of Ron Paul and walking out. They may think it's an
organization.

And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day,I said
fifty people a day walking in singin a bar of Ron Paul and
walking out. And friends, they may thinks it's a movement."

Good Morning gang..

Well... just read the news.
Nice piece Craig.
The problem here is as follwos: Als long as it is scripted for BO, it is good. he will follow the lead.
The moment he has to fall on his own tact, he crashes.
Stay tuned, we are in for quite a ride......

Did I mention yesterday, the day before, last week, last month, five months ago.....that the change BO was proclaiming was all talk...
All hat, no cattle peepz, and we only at the beginning.

God help US!

Don´t blame me....I voted Hillary!

Dog - just curious. Do you mean to say that GWB was elected by "older" folk and "they" should do better next time? Maybe "they" had help, but it's "their" fault?

Also, out of curiosity, where is the dividing line between
"older" and "younger", and does "middle-aged " come
into your analysis?

Again, I ask out of curiosity. I really want to know if that is what you meant to say. Is that what you believe? Is that how you see it?

Craig - I agree with you that it should be a cause for more doubts, but think many people will let it slide, as we've already seen.

This is a bad sign but he could realize it and be more vigilant. Also, his handlers may have learned a lesson about him, and will move swifly to rectify.

I don't think he has listened to his own speeches, and doesn't realize what he meant when he made those promises. He running with in some pretty rough crowds, and that's not just oxygen you breathe at that altitude.

Champ - my ink hasn't arrived - it's been a long 24 hour delivery time. Tomorrow.

Good news is that I got my vodka.

Yes, I know you don't care if I respond to your comment, but I care. Lotta introspection going on between my ears.

Now, as the bishops said to the actress, three of my own comments in a row means I'm talkin' to muself.
Night.

I've been approaching the veep from the reverse angle---who would refuse the invitation?
Since Cheney re-wrote the etiquette for that office, who knows?
Which US Senators would be able to serve the nation better from the Russell than from US Naval Observatory, if that's still the veep residence...it seems there is a different place where the veep lives now...?
It would be a waste if we lost Dodd or Biden to a career of possible thumb-twiddling.
Biden is kind of a political-mad-scientist, and Dodd may be the smartest US Senator in the history of the Republic. Any one else ever been that smart?

sturgee...and I spent many miles riding shotgun in a '55 Chevy...I was 14, buddy was 16, and he worked his ass off mowing ditches in the summer, plus he was a radio & TV boy-genius and he made a lotta cash fixing TYs when he was still just 15 or 16...we rammed that damdam '55 all over hell's half acre and then came nightfall, and well...I was 14 and a drag on his social life because all the chicks he knew were his age and wouldn't be caught dead with a little 14 year old boy, so when the sun set, the chicks got shotgun, and I got my bike and rode to the drugstore and drank nickel cherry Cokes and I'd see buddy roaring past with 16 year old girls in the front seat, and Gene Pitney sang "Town Without Pity" through the speakers.

Craig on "Imus in the Morning"
Thursday (6/12) 6:30 AM EST
RFD-TV / WABC-AM / WJZW-FM

I don't think he has listened to his own speeches, and doesn't realize what he meant when he made those promises. He running with in some pretty rough crowds, and that's not just oxygen you breathe at that altitude.

Posted by: bethyboo | June 12, 2008 1:41 AM

Do not agree with you bethy.
He has listened to his speeches and he realized what he was saying.
The crux is that they were not HIS speeches. When something are not your beliefs, and not your own theory you can preach it, but will not bring it into practice.
BO is a puppet who is dancing to other´s tunes.
I dare say that he will be a younger GWB... he will continue to make flaws and fully contrast what he has promised to voters during primary season. It will fade though, during this lection cycle...only to nail it if (and God forbid) wins the GE
BO is a typical politician who used his race and his youthful charm to sway the voters. Now....where have we seen this before.?????

Yesterday someone asked me, why I was so upset when HRC was losing.... He said: "The pople will get exactly what they deserve!"
I was mad at that statement when he made it, but frankly....he is right!
Maybe we as a people deserve JmC or BO and continue to live hardship throughout.....

Don´t blame me.....

Obama at his best

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8znPAEaI9KA

Hmmmmm
The last line is rather telling!

http://www.nypost.com/seven/06112008/news/columnists/enlisting_old_hacks__belies_new_politics_115043.htm