Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Craig,

I remember well when you were a regular guest on
Paul Alexander & John Batchelor's radio show.

You have just gotten better with age.

By the way, I just realized that humor is lost here....burrito, the scotch and tonic was a joke from an old movie......

Craig -- that's fascinating! It makes you wonder why Rove hasn't been called out for his temper before....

Patsi, aside from all the talk going on around here, may I ask did you also write a book about tony orlando.

Also, based on the Examiner Review, wonder if Paul Alexander will get to "sell" his book on FOX, since Karl Rove is now in residence there

"Patsi, aside from all the talk going on around here, may I ask did you also write a book about tony orlando."

I wrote his autobiography with him. I know many consider him tragically unhip, but his musical history spans the time from teen idols/Brill Building to 70s singles driven pop....if you are into music history, he's an interesting guy.

Thanks Patsi, & yes the history of music (well NYC
based old time R& R, doo-wap, & the "girl groups" )
have always been of interest. I think I remember an early Orlando song - "Bless You" long before the
yellow ribbon or his tv show.

Wouldn't know that, I believe he has a theater in
Branson Missouri? though.

As Jamie intuitively stated I am one of those officially on vacation from all politics--have let go any anger, disappointment , whatever & stepped back to wait & see what I decide to do come November.

We want to know Rove's role in the framing of our governor (Siegelman). Don't expect us to believe it was none.

Coreen -- I'm glad you recall "Bless You" -- it was the first hit that Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil wrote together. And Tony always sang it for his little sister, Rhonda, who had CP. As a kid, he often stayed up with her most of the night with her singing because it calmed her and helped keep her from going into spasms from the CP. He really is a good man.

Coreen:

I'm staying in that same resort as you. Close enough to know what's going on in the world, but far enough away to not really care. I might check out their late season fall rates and extend my stay.

And Machiavelli appears, yet again.

Interesting story, Craig.

tt

ROFL to Coreen and Ivy's vacation mode....I understand. I stayed at the vacation spa throughout the Reagan years. Never even watched the news unless I absolutely had to.

Larry Johnson on John Batchelor's Radio Show (ABC)

Johnson discusses some of what he knows about the MO video.

http://www.johnbatchelorshow.com/lib/jbs_on_demand/batchelor_this_week/hr%5F%2323%2Emp3

God, Gordo -- give it UP! There are questions about this whole campaign and about our nominee, but whether Michelle Obama is a racist (and I am sure she is) is not one that matters to me.

Patsi -------------------------

This has the real potential of forcing BO out. The MO video has been described as jaw-dropping, devastating and stunning.

Patsi -------------------------

This has the real potential of forcing BO out. The MO video has been described as jaw-dropping, devastating and stunning.

Posted by: GORDO | June 10, 2008 1:58 AM

...Sure that wasn't the review for the new Indiana Jones movie , Gordo?

Here is what I just cannot understand. People screaming over and over that Iraq is the big issue.

Well a big DUH to that! I was screaming -- as were most on this board -- when it started. And as for the votes....well, while I never believed Bush could be trusted, I am not so frigging arrogant as to say that I fully understood at that point how the Neo-Cons were controlling the administration.

What I DID understand is that when Colin Powell said "You break it, you've bought it" he spoke the truth. George Bush has put this country in the most untenable situation imaginable. There is no easy way out of this, and if people think that just starting to pull troops out is going to work, well, I suggest they take a long hard look.

The blogger boyz seem to think we can just exit stage left. Sorry -- but if we don't play this precisely, we are creating a Middle Eastern powder keg.

The blogger crowd is so frigging ignorant that they think leaving Iraq is going to be like leaving Vietnam.

This in no way is an endorsement of McCain's ideas -- whatever they are -- or Obama's -- whatever they are.

If some of you want to know one of the biggest reasons I am pissed it is this: we had a chance to have one person in the White House, Hillary Clinton, who just might have maneuvered us out of Iraq and restored this country. Now, we are screwed now matter who wins this general election. It is ruly a choice between your favorite Menendez brother.

"Going to work" for what? What is the goal? Just get our boys back home and let Israel fight its own wars.

Craig, quite a story...I clicked onto The Examiner review and had to laugh...comparing your remembrances with the ridiculous 2007 "MC Rove" dance.
I chuckled hard to read Rove got the ax in church, because Rove resembles a local preacher here in town.
This gang CAN provide us with a few laughs along the way, even though it's damn hard to get past all the death they have rained down onto Iraq.
Here's an opinion I have been forming: Most people I know accept the Holocaust as fact; those same folks hold Holocaust Deniers in low, scathing esteem.
So now, as the election nears, I keep running into arguments about the impact Bush's war has had on the Iraqi civilian population. We've all seen the varying numbers, and I am not here to copy charts and the like, but to point out that I believe that those people who seem to think there have only been a few hundred Iraqi civilian casualities all together since Shock and Awe, are JUST AS BAD as Holocaust Deniers.
McCain has supported this kiling all along and he has plans to re-vamp the plan and keep us there in one way, one role or another, for as long as he has any influence.
Obama is a hawk, too, but not like McCain! McCain is DERANGED as was/is Bush Junior (there ya go, Craig!).
Y'know? We had to live through Reagan Democrats (like Jim Webb) once before. It would just be a shame if it turns out to be McCain pulls it off like Reagan did, swaying the Reagan Democrat-types , and winning because of that.

Champ -- it's obvious you have no clue about what we've done and what we are leaving over there. Have you ever taken one history class? This is not about whether this illegal and immoral war should have happened. Obviously this country has blood on its hands. But we better know what the hell we're doing now, or we will rue the day.

Why don't you educate me, Patsi...

Good Morning.....

Yup!

It is that time again.
Some people just need to denigrate and belittle others, as their last grasp to get some comfort in their fading solace....
Get a life.
You do not have to insult a human being ( even if it is a virtual human) to get your point across. If the person does not see eye to eye with you...whatever...

The more we do this, the more we alienate eachother in voting for the other candidate.
Someone said we need a democrat in the whitehouse...well it is not going to happen if people keep biting one another...

Dyeezzzzz
get a life out there....

On another note.
Has anyone seen/obtained the blueprint to the $ 50 bn package Obama is referring to?
I need the information, seen as I am hearing that the repubs are going to have a field day with it.

patsi: Hillary Clinton had five major time frames to challenge Bush on Iraq and admit her vote to empower Bush's charge into Iraq was wrong. Frank Rich wrote a detailed column on this last year.
She is a hawk, and she was not going to get us out of Iraq like she vaguely promised. She, Biden, Obama...all were and are for the keeping of the US flame in Iraq.
You favor keeping US troops there anyway, and you are against a cut-and -run.
Keeping US troops in Iraq just makes it worse. It generally gets worse all the time as it is. Surges, McCain's phony photo-ops...but eh US has mucked up the entire region.
We've done enough there and must leave. If you believe we must stay there for reasons you believe in, fine, but how d you think all the billions it will cost are going to get paid?
Do you think Iraqi oil will suddenly start showing us a profit margin for "installing Democracy in The Region?"
Nope, it's long past the time to leave, and leave we should.
Actually, there's no sense arguing all this...we ain't leaving no way...Obama wants to punish Iran one way or another as he clearly has shown with that speech to AIPAC last week.
Bush really started something, didn't he?
So when you write you want troops to stay and I want them to leave, you win, nd I am just "bumpin' my gums", as Ol' Dizzy Dean used to say.
Vietnam's doing Ok, right? I have a friend who is a generation younger that me and he married a Vietnamese lady and is there now for a family wedding...he reports Vietrnam is doing fine.
Remember what we were told were happen if and when we left Vietnam? Bloodbath was the word used mostly.
The truth is , we have no business destroying a country and then saying it will get worse if we leave...what bullshit! It was better before we destroyed it in the first place, even with Saddam and sons.

How is the heat wave treating everyone in the US

Here in Amsterdam it is about 25C.

Last night Holland scored a magnificent 3 - 0 victory over world champions Italy, everyone went berserk (in the good sense of the word).. They are still partying, although it is allready nine in the morning....

With regard to Iraq...

I cannot believe that people think that we can pull out of Iraq in an instant.
We are there and made a mess out of it. We just cannot simply pack up and leave.. Everyone who believes that, needs to really start thinking about the debt we owe to people if we leave the country in the state that it is........

We don't owe them shit. I'm sure they've had enough of our 'generosity' anyhow.

YOU don´t owe them

My country owes them for going there and DESTROYING everything they had.
We OWE them because, my dumb ass, egotistical president went there and enforced a war that will never ever be finished. A war that was senseless, baseless and was full of lies......

We made our bed, so we now must f....... lie in it!

Excuse my language.....

And what exactly are we going to do for them, Jay? If we stay there long enough, do you think they will suddenly see the light, embrace democracy, Shia hugging Sunni, and there will be a big song and dance number? Ain't going to happen.

Let Syria, Turkey, and Iran clean up our mess. We might as well go back into the old playbook and re-install another despot.

73 years ago, in Akron, Dr. Bob drank the last of four bottles of beer and was able to perform surgery on his patient.
That was his last drink, as he and Bill W. , a stockbroker from Brooklyn, and a drunk, carried forth an idea that has saved millions from depravity, by showing them a way to just not drink, one day at a time. This is the 73rd anniversary of Alcoholics Anonymous.

So what's your idea of an viable exit strategy, Patsi? Let me guess, you don't have one.

When will 'our commitment' to the Iraqi people end? When Iraq is peaceful and prosperous? If our country is bankrupted in the process, will it have been worth it? What if our country is bankrupted AND Iraq remains a war-zone? Would that be the best-case scenario for you?

"Let Syria, Turkey, and Iran clean up our mess. "

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Cry... it ain't funny

Champ -- If I had the exact exit strategy I would be running the country....

Okay -- too late for me....

champ, you have clear vision. Iraqi civilians want us OUT. Every TV special indicates this is true. They hate US troops being in their land.
US troops and military leaders have no intention of nation-building anyway. The military is there to destroy---meaning BLOW SHIT UP. Just look at the landscape!

You think anyone does? Are we supposed to allow our military to be decimated until someone comes up with a perfect solution, that would satisfy you and everyone else with little understanding of geo-politics?

LOL.....

Sorry...Patsi and Champ I have to laugh at the 3.32 and 3:33 responses. LMPO......

OK........back to seriousness..

Champ, do you undertsand what U are saying.
U are basicaly saying: We can bomb every country we want, and then pull out whenever we want, because we are the United Staes of America!

Champ, we do not OWN the world. We are PART of it!

Grow Up.

My parents taught me to clean up after I played.
Well....we now have to clean up, and the clean up aint pretty, but the war was also not.
We started this, we need to own up to it.

We need to show the world and ourselves (that includes our children) that we are a responsible country, not some kind of cowardly country that is doing whatever the hell it pleases.....

You think anyone does? Are we supposed to allow our military to be decimated until someone comes up with a perfect solution, that would satisfy you and everyone else with little understanding of geo-politics?

Posted by: champ | June 10, 2008 3:37 AM

I know, but we started so we gotta find a good exit strategy!
I have one......

These older folks still buy into the lies they were taught in civics and American History classes, Dex. It's not entirely their fault. They didn't have the internet to allow them to challenge their indoctrination until it was too late. To be honest, I envy them. Ignorance is bliss- and I don't mean that as an insult.

I'm not trying to come off as a know-it-all. I just know bullshit when I smell it.

CC-

After your encounter with Blossom, I hope you deloused yourself.

Lurking….

Aging Hipster

Champ, I will be 31 in July.

Do I fall in your "old" category?

WE did NOT start this war, Jason. The neo-conservative think-tank chicken-hawk scoundrels who run our country started this war. Don't forget that.

In fact, it's not even a war, because war requires a declaration from the congress.

If you support staying indefinitely, give me real solutions, or grab a gun and head over there yourself. Talk is cheap.

Champ,
LOL
I do not support staying indefiitely. damn... I am very opposed to the war.
However,
I DO NOT, CAN NOT agree with you, that we can just pull out of this WAR (in my humble definbition it is a awar) and say bluntly: FUCK YOU, WE ARE DONE!

We started it as a country, because the guy representing us and his administration started it. So it is OUR war and not just a war by a certain right or left wing..... Eventhough I oppose it and may not like the fact that we are not doing #$%& there, we cannot just up and leave.

Furthermore, i was not trained to be in the military so I cannot just pick up a gun and head over there.... It wouldn´t be a pretty sight either : ))

Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery, none but ourselves free our minds.

Have no fear for atomic energy, for none of them can stop the time.

How long shall they kill our prophets, while we stand aside and look?

Some say it's just a part of it, we've got to fulfill the book...

Bob Marley- Redemption Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7pAvbjChQM

OK Champ....

Believe me, as an educated black man, I am trained and groomed by these anthems.....

My brother...I know

Take a good listen to this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooFnixBwBSo

YOU CAN HIDE FORM MAN, BUT NOT YOUR CONSCIENCE

This is hand in hand with the "Obama is the Devil" e-mails I get from my bumpkin buddies…..Fist Bumps...

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/generalities/this_is_a_fist_bump_86664.asp#more

This is normally the way i wish opponents good luck before we tip off a game. Some of these cable Tv people have A problem with babbling……Where does the Right Wing get this kind of stuff????

Lurking
Hipster

I've never killed anyone.

I'm diggin' the Buju, though.

LOL

This is too ridiculous.

The fistbump is old and tired. It is amazing to see how out of time people indeed are.
Here in Holland the fist is very old. And it is a bump that goes back to the heart....
You bump one person on the fist and than take that fist to your heart. The meaning is : RESPECT.
But it is a man thing, I have to be honest. You do not do it with a woman.
In Holland we call it : "the Box"

I nominate the picture at the top of that mediabistro article, "The Gayest Fist Bump, Ever."

"Had I courted Rove as a source, as so many of my colleagues did..."

Craig,

I'd be VERY interested to learn how that process works. Pray tell.

My god, I can't believe I. posting at this time 2;45 am out here.

I was reading and realized I had promised to hunt down some books, and having found them, decided to see if any of you were alive and kicking and commenting - HA! So I'm a slow learner.

Books I'm hunting? ' Log of the Sea of Cortez' by, of all people, John Steinbeck. Also 'Into a Deser Place' by a Brit named Graham MacIntosh. Not for me - for my brother-in-law for Father's Day. He's such a winner tghat it's fun to pamper him.

What was all this shit re the early morning people being pleasant?

Hey, champ - I'm one of those older folk . I'll be 66 on .12/26 . Am I the oldest? Believe me, we learned to challenge - where do you think Mario Savio came from? Also, since you weren't there, how do you know what we were taught? Further, I don't see a lot of the youngsters questioning Obama - in fact, they (you) believe everything he promises.........the 4th biggest lie.

I am officially a member of P.U.M.A.(Party Unity My Ass)

check it out...

http://www.justsaynodeal.com/

LOL
LushLinda.. I joined.

But seen as I am not longer a democrat, don´t know if that is honest.

YAY Jason!!

NObama '08
Clinton/Obama '12

I guess I should add to my siggy

Obama/?? '20 8~)

Ok, my statement regarding 'the older folks' and indoctrination was arrogant, ignorant, and unfounded. We stand on the shoulders of giants, indeed. Unfortunately, we also lie underneath the boot of them, too.

Your statement, Beth, "- in fact, they (you) believe everything he promises", is unfounded also. Don't assume what I believe. I am as suspicious of the Obama phenomenon (Obamamenon, copyright me) as you are, if not more so, and have referred to the cult-of-personality that has developed around him frequently in my posts here.

I'm sure you got a better education than the majority of kids these days do. Kids in public schools are just trained to take tests these days, and when they go home they are bombarded with all sorts of distractions. I hope that as a population we are not getting stupider, but only time will tell, I suppose.

Ok, my statement regarding 'the older folks' and indoctrination was arrogant, ignorant, and unfounded. We stand on the shoulders of giants, indeed.

Posted by: champ | June 10, 2008 6:51 AM

This.... to me......is maturity!

Props Champ.....

guess I should add to my siggy

Obama/?? '20 8~)

Posted by: LushIsLinda

I continuously hear the name of Sebelius being mentioned..... I guess Judas will be left out. Maybe he will be another secretary of energy or the new secretary of state. Who knows.....

Jason--I am talkin' Obama in 2020...not this year 8~)

Champ--how old are you? define "older folks". 8~(

NObama '08
Clinton/Obama '12
Obama/?? '20

matt taibbi coming up on imus........

matt taibbi......THE GREAT DERANGEMENT about joining the church of the great goober Hagee, and also about the 9/11 conspiracy folks.........

2020?

LMPO...... Sorry, this is a new one.... LOL

uh......how do you stand on the shoulders of giants, and also be under their boots at the same time?

oh lordy...it is 78 degrees(in NoVA) already!! It's going to be another scorcher today!!

I don't know what we would do without some of the people here , although I'd be willing to find out.

Linda,
It is 27C in Amsterdam....If it becomes 30 degrees we are not allowed to work anymore. LOL. At the moment everyone is trying to get the meteorological team to declare 30C.......

Good luck guys..... in the USA

Corey........roger that......110%

Well, that would've prompted me to call him nothing but "Jr." from then on. Junior, Junior, Junior!

I think it is safe to assume that, at this point, Bush Senior is the one who would like to distance himself from Junior.

27C????what's that about 80 degrees?????

I turn off MY AC when it is that temp!!!

When I lived in Saudi Arabia...sometimes it got up to 130-135, but it was so dry, that it didn't even seem too hot.

You know what "they" say..."it's not the heat. it's the humidity"...yuck!!

LushisLinda,

I think I'll be joining PUMA, too.

YAY prof marcia!!

Patsi, I know you'll be sleeping-in this morning, but I just read the early morning comments. Thanks for your willingness to jump in an commit to doing things responsibly as we leave Iraq.

You're a wonderful advocate for thoughtful, reflective governance.

For decades Israel has acted as our military proxy in the Middle East. They've been shedding their blood doing what we've asked them to do. A lot of this is because they share our grave concern over the most extreme radicals in the region; but, they are also recognizing our support of their dream back in 1947 by being loyal to us, often, I'm sure, even when it's against their better judgment.

Walking out leaves Israel, Jordan, Egypt and a potentially productive Iraq, along with others, in untenable positions.

I can't believe how out of touch Chuck Todd & Andrea Mitchell are with regard to Hil'ry supporters getting behind BO. They really are out of touch. (Silly, emotional women. Don't worry, they'll calm down before November.)

Ya know what won't happen before November? BO will not prove himself to be any more capable of leading this nation in a positive direction. What will happen before November? The GOP will bring out all of the stuff that the MSM suppressed during the primary season & BO will lose.

The only thing needed is a cohesive voting plan for Americans who are not far left or far right; the end of two-party reign. Now that would be real change.

Larry Johnson on John Batchelor's Radio Show (ABC)

Johnson discusses some of what he knows about the MO video.

http://www.johnbatchelorshow.com/lib/jbs_on_demand/batchelor_this_week/hr%5F%2323%2Emp3

Posted by: GORDO | June 10, 2008 1:44 AM

Well,
I have listened. And I do agree that IF such a tape exists, and do take notice: IF.... It will be launched after the convention. They need to be sure that HRC is out.
As of now, I will stop thinking about this thing, and discuss if and when it is released (IF it exists)

Amen , Blue!

I can't believe how out of touch Chuck Todd & Andrea Mitchell are...
--blueindallas

Chuck Todd doesn't surprise me too much--he's young--hopefully as he gets older, he will become wiser...............but Mrs Greenspan should know better...at age 62 isn't she considered to be among the ranks of "silly, emotional, old, bitter women"?

blueINdallas,

You said a mouthful in your post. I'm feeling it.

I can't watch MSNBC or CNN, at the moment. If I hear one more pundit tell me that all us women will settle down in a few
weeks and vote for Obama, I'll scream. I have screamed, actually.

Media Myth:
All good Democratic Stepford women will come together by November and follow the piper Obama.

I just don't think it's gonna happen.

A few years ago when Dick DeVos ran for Governor of Michigan he supposedly had all these great ideas , especially for the Michigan economy. But he never talked specifics. When he was asked to be specific about his great ideas , he said that he didn't have to be. I think he meant: I'm not the Governor yet , so I don't have to give you specific ideas about all my great ideas and plans for Michigan. He lost the election.

mornin', all.

Nice to be mentioned by Bush's brain, no, Craig? I think turd blossom was a perfect moniker for that a-hole. Every word is just one more fart.

Well the republicans have done a bang up job of taking care of the economy -

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/business/business-markets-stocks.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

"What we have here is a market that is very nervous," said Peter Cardillo, chief market economist at Avalon Partners in New York.

"You have slower economic activity and you have inflation. I think we are in the midst of a small dose of stagflation, where the economy is limping along with higher inflation."

And we thought it couldn't get worse under Bernanke. McCain got it wrong saying that Obama sounds like he's running for Carter's second term - if he continues Bush's economic programs - and that's exactly what he's advocating isn't it - it's he who's running for Carter's second term - and Bush's 3rd at the same time. And this is who we are considering voting for? Please, think again.

"at age 62 isn't she considered to be among the ranks of "silly, emotional, old, bitter women"?"
--LIL

**according to the MSM 8~)

A most interesting article in this morning's Journal :
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121304603861058495.html?mod=pj_main_hs_coll

"HEALTH JOURNAL By MELINDA BECK
How Surgery May Affect Mental Acuity"

New Rasmussen poll:

22% of Democrats say they won't vote for Obama in November.

That stat has to be worrying Darth Axelrod. He thought as soon as
Hillary dropped out, we'd all come hurrying back to join them.

My thought for the day comes from the best roadside sign I've seen in awhile. A good buddy sent me a pic, but unfortunately not a link:

BEER: NOW CHEAPER THAN GAS.
DRINK, DON'T DRIVE

PM, Axelrod may have successfully floated a trial ballon, but only time will tell whether it's a ballon or a bubble. We should know by about mid November.

I knew there was something I liked about Billy Bob Thornton -

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/arts/entertainment-thornton.html

I just may have to check his new album out.

good morning gang....

Blue.... let me echo Corey...... AMEN!

Flatus..... Patsi is an adult..... unlike some others no matter what their chronological age.....

Craig..... phew.... you dodged a bullet with that one....
and "junior" is the perfect moniker for W..... he isn't really an adult either.....

and then there are some like Jason and Corey.... despite their youthfulness.... they have more wisdom than many twice their age.....

still bummed about Big Brown....

Patsi, just read through the overnight posts, and I have two word s for you - Fuck him. What an Asshole. Sorry, Craig.

Renee -- have you heard anything more about the Big Brown loss? Was he taken opff steoids right before the race? If so, why? And I guess I'm out of touch with the racing industry these days....didn't realize steroids were a big part of it.

pogo,

I don't believe McCain will be another Bush, even though the Obama
smear machine, who owns the media, is fond of regurgitating this propaganda constantly.

I've been a lifer Democratic so I'm no super fan of McCain, but I know the dirty politics of Count Axelrod and Camp Obama only too well after witnessing their nuclear attacks on the Clintons. As far as McCain getting some things wrong--have you counted the times Obama has been wrong in the last year? I have. He has no expertise on the economy, either.

There are many reasons I don't trust Obama. As of now, there are far fewer reasons I don't trust McCain.

It's pretty bizarre, Pogo. But the irony of bashing an old woman about the way she looks is that most of us don't give a damn about it anymore. I always felt I looked fine as a young woman...and at first, when I started aging, I was horrified. But at a certain point I just figured WTF? And, of course, as Tanya Tucker once wisely reminded me when I was whining about starting to look old, "Give it up -- you look better than you deserve to." Ha!

Typo:

I meant "lifer Democrat"

pogo correcto

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/06/karl-and-me.html#comment-100239

sturg, Professor Gadget?

LL, figures that beer achieves a level of affordability that makes me want to follow your advice just as Mrs Pogo lays down the law and tells me to lose 20 pounds this summer. (Yes, I'm whipped - totally and happily) Timing is everything I guess. Sigh.

SHOCK:

Clinton has released her delegates?????

Dang Pogo...if that was you in the picture on the video, you don't look like someone carrying an extra 20 pounds around.

Patsi...I'm writing in your name for president to be co-pres with KGC.

Patsi, my friend, it was not the bashing of your looks that I care about and commented about. It was this:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/06/karl-and-me.html#comment-100189

And this:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/06/karl-and-me.html#comment-100184

As I said , two words.

Oh...BTW...I've lost 13 pounds off my gut since my picture was taken last Friday. (That's right. Chopper finally jumped down to the floor.)

Patsi....
what happened to Big Brown was the topic of Diane Rehm's second hour yesterday.....
and according to all the experts on horse racing..... no one knows what really happened..... unfortunately.... the horse can't talk and tell us.....

the steroid question came up and they've been banned all over the world except for a few states in the US..... yup... the Triple Crown states....
they did start to wean Big Brown off the steroids last month.... but they said that wasn't enough time for it to make much of a difference.....

as a life long baseball fan..... I can tell you that all players go through slumps.... the best pitcher can have a horrid game..... on that particular day, they just don't have "it".....

Has anybody read Michelle's Thesis? if so what did you think of it?

Where did you hear that Clinton released her delegates? Did Edwards release his?

LL, I assume it's me - not being able to view the vid here (tonight, perhaps)- I did send Craig the only pic of me I could find, but trust me, that picture notwithstanding (and it didn''t show my gut or ass did it?), I'm carrying 20 pounds I didn't carry when I felt like jumping on my bicycle and knocking off a quick 50 miles. Now, It's a quick mile and a half, then stop for water.

Pogo...I remember those days when 50 miles was a day off! LOL.

Off to play 18 now before the thunder and lightning rolls in. Catch you all later today.

Pogo....
I see sturg seconded...... I guess I'll third it.....

sometimes it's good to say what you have to say.....

oh..... and don't tell Mrs Pogo I said this...... but..... drink the beer.....

Obama should of got a big bump after Hillary suspended but he didn't. That's not a good sign. This election is for him to win or lose. McCain's numbers should be dropping fast but he's hanging in there. Look at the map they are almost tied. We could have another race like 2000.

vad - that hasn't made the font of all political wisdom favoring Obama - HuffPo - so I say believe it when you see it. Jason, who said that?

Renee, I've actually become more of a wine drinker, but nothing tastes quite like a cold beer on a hot day. No, I have to keep Mrs. P happy because when mama ain't happyy, no one's happy.

vad, throw up a link to the map if you don't mind.

Renee, thanks - all in favor?

Hillary is urging her delegates to back Obama:

http://qconline.com/archives/qco/display.php?id=390566

I have for msnbc, abc, cbs, cnn, and fox the same boundless, deep-seated contempt i feel for halliburton and blackwater........they're all in it together......fingers on the same right hand.........i feel sick for my country that those incapable-of-shame pseudo-journalists still enjoy places of importance in broadcastism..........

and pogo......yes........sphincter is the correct part of the anatomy for that perennially adolescent scheisskopf.

If she released her delegates then it would be all over the Obama media outlets.

The next time you hear the chimpster say that the economy is really wonderful despite all appearances tothe contrary because home ownership is at a higher level than ever before...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/09/AR2008060902626.html?hpid=topnews

Ally, thanks for the link to the Clinton request to her delegates.

Vad, check that link.

sturg, I suppose he always used TP for that annoying nose dribble and those awful spit drools. He obviousloy flunked potty training.

Sorry I don't have a link for the map they were referring to in the discussion of it being tied.

But this map has Obama leading 287 to 227 with 24 tied. It's been this way for days on this site.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

I did check that site for the delegates but CNN and MSNBC are not reporting that yet.

It would be a big headline on those sites if it was true

Thanks, vad. Funny with all this talk about redrawing the electoral map, it looks remarkably like the 2000 electoral college map.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/election/map.htm

Politics of change, indeed.

Sorry,
I was busy.... :))

Here is the link:
http://qconline.com/archives/qco/display.php?id=390566

Can somebody verify.

I think it would show character if she actually did release her delegates. That would be the ultimate form of support.

Oooo,
Sorry. Ally allready posted the link...

Vad,
Who drew up that map?
I am a bit dazed at some of the calls.
Fl, and Pa , and Nv most of all......

"I have for msnbc, abc, cbs, cnn, and fox the same boundless, deep-seated contempt i feel for halliburton and blackwater........they're all in it together......fingers on the same right hand."

No kidding. And they keep right on consolidating. The power is stunning...

sturge -- I'm sure you watched in horror as Clear Channel damn near destroyed the Dixie Chicks career. I phoned radio stations the day they orchestrated the Dixie Chick CD smashing parties across the country...the song that was on the radio and pulled off was "Traveling Soldier" about a soldier who died in Vietnam. And these clowns buried it because the Chicks dared make an off-handed joke about George Bush.

What did Obama mean by the following statement:

The centerpiece of mcCain's economic plan "amounts to a full-throated endorsement of George Bush's policies".

What is full-throated, I don't think that's a good term to use!

Pogo,

"And this is who we are considering voting for? Please, think again"

Right now, I have no preference between Obama & McCain, but in order to make a choice, one of them will have to earn that vote. To date, neither comes close.

Just wondering---have you by any chance read Sen. Obama's "economy" speech given yesterday?

If so, what measures, if any, were proposed that will actually assist homeowner's facing imminent foreclosure--or those with maxed out credit cards---as well as diminishing home values--not to mention the cost of putting gas in your vehicle to get to work each day--or the escalating food costs to feed
your family or the ever increasing energy costs to heat, light & air condition your home?

Style over substance continues.

Pogo,

one of my best friends (Brad Davis) is Billy Bob Thornton's co-producer and co-writer. Basically Brad does all the work on the producer end and because they use the studio that is in Billy Bob's house Billy Bob gets to put his name on it. He is the co-writer and singer in the band. Brad is the band leader of the Boxmasters. The wife and I saw the band at the House of Blues in Dallas last summer. It was a good show. They did a lot of the cover stuff they talked about in the Times article. It is a throwback guitar album so you might consider buying it. I recommend it.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

Patsi and others.....

I feel you. I can have much more examples of how the media is trashing specifics.

Indeed not only in politics but also very deliberately in music. I was a deejay for years, financing my studies, I know that part as well.
Certain music was not allowed to be played. Madonna was non existent at most of Fl radiostations eventhough her career surged. Then again Mariah and Whitney were all that. This is still happening at the moment, as we speak....... How is it possible that a song is sold 1 million times but cannot get airplay on a station? Because deejays deny it the airplay...the reasoning behind it? MONEY and POWER...

Madonna and the child adoption, caused all media headlines. CNN called it an outrage and had it as a headline for weeks...Practically dospatching two journlists to Malawi. Did anyone notice or report that the case was finalized two weeks ago? Madonna was given the green light and the little boy is now officially adopted. Did CNN report this????

This crosses over to each and every discipline in the USA today. Be it politics, be it music, be it TV...be it ANYTHING. The media dictates and the people follow.....

The good thing is....People are waking up! Really. Someone said the other day that: if one thing was learned during this primary is that people have become more knowledgeable...They simply turn off the TV or the radio and find their own sources.

And that is something the big execs know. They are losing grip and they are clinging to what was...in a way that you cannot imagine...

Hmmmm, I am going too far probably....LOL :))
Anyway.....

Patsi,

Thanks for your early morning comments about things
over than politics--your knowledge of various topics
is enlightening & enjoyable. You enrich the discussions.

Pogo,

I just found this on Brad's website

June 19
The Late Late Show w/ Craig Ferguson
w/ Billy Bob Thornton & The Boxmasters

maybe you can stay up late and see and hear it.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

Jason...

And next, they will almost certainly make an effort to control the internet(s), as it is dangerous to their grip on power if we, the people, can communicate freely, openly and honestly about what we believe them to be up to!

HD, thanks for the info. As a throwback guitar afficionado, I expect I'll appreciate it. Does BBT have a decent voice (not that that's all that important in R&R).

Coreen, I haven't read Obama's econ plan in a while - but I will. Mine's going to be a vote against more than a vote for.

Hey Craig, did you see I wrote that in the blog yesterday, in between my scuffles with HD?

HD, I doubt that my eyes will be cooperating by the time Ferguson's musical guests appear. Checking the old eyelids for cracks will probably be the only activity I'll be engaged in by then.

I don't know if CHAMP is still here, but I would like do dispute his statement (and what seems to be CW) that we went into Iraq because of Israel.
In testimony before Congress, in response to a question from Jesse Jackson Jr, and after the third attempt to get an answer, Paul Wolfowitz finally stated that we had to go into Iraq in order to get our bases out of Saudi Arabia.
This entire immoral and unfortunate invasion can be laid at the door of George HW Bush who did not properly instruct our representative in Baghdad before the invasion of Kuwait, who encouraged the Kurds and the southern Shia to rise up afterwards, and who accepted the responsibility of patrolling the No-Fly zones. The presence of an American Air Base in Saudi Arabia was the proximate cause of the Al Qaeda attacks, including 9/11. I believe wholeheartedly that we invaded Iraq at the behest of the Saudis who balked at us removing our military from Saudi Arabia so long as Saddam remained in power.

True HB.....

But that is where there grip is totally non existent. They grip their own websites, but not the other blogs..
Why do you think people likek perezHilton are hot?
Because they let everyone talk what they want.
Love them or hate them...the blogs are free and give information from which you can choose and make up your own mind.

When I was young CNN was everything to me. Well, I have banned that station for nearly a month now (TV and internet) and it´s good. The big guns cannot dictate anymore and that is why they get fierce and radical..... The power they once had is slipping big time.

Exhibit A: The difference in blogs on HillaryClinton.com and BarrackObama.com.......

Play the video out of this link.

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/09/larry-johnson-on-john-batchelors-show/

Craig -- that's fascinating! It makes you wonder why Rove hasn't been called out for his temper before....

Posted by: Patsi | June 10, 2008 12:14 AM

Perhaps he is suffering from PTSD?

And I agree with Patsi, Jason and others ... notwithstanding that the invasion was not just wrong in terms of national interest but immoral -- to pull out on an arbitrary timetable compounds the error.
And, in fact, the folk hero of the hour, Sen Obama, through his principal foreign policy adviser has said that the speed with which troops would be pulled out would depend on the situation that obtains when he takes office and consults with the military men on the ground.

Coreen: If you are concerned about the home mortgage crisis, you might want to google the name Penny Pritzker. She is the senior financial person for Sen Obama's campaign and has a rather troubling history with subprime lending.

Mrs. Clinton, for example, owes nearly $5 million to the firm of her former pollster and senior strategist, Mark Penn.

_ Posted by Brain

Jesus Mary of God, what a twit he was. If I were Mark Penn I would be EMBARRASSED by how I acted with colleagues and how I screwed over the campaign time and again with bad advice that hurt her chances. In fact, if I were Mark Penn, I'd not only mark this one "gratis", I'd pay HERE for malfeasance !! I suppose the lawyerly types can tell me if there is such a reason.

Tom

EuroTom: I doubt that Penn could be successfully sued for campaign malfeasance, but if I were him I sure wouldn't go around writing Op-Ed pieces about what went wrong .... or, if I did, it would be one short sentence...I screwed up.

Coreen, I read the plan for homeowners in imminent danger of losing their homes - it sounds like it could help - I question whether congress would pass it, but it sounds like it could provide some relief if it did pass. Some of the underlying assumptions don't ring tru, though - for instance the assertion that mostly the rich get to take the home mortgage deduction because they are the ones who itemize, while that sounds like it would be true, above an income of $50,000, 58% and up itemize, and just under 18% of those making less than $50,000 itemize, probably because of the mortgage deduction since it is the single largest deduction most tax filers can take advantage of.

Yup,
That was "Monster" Samatha Power. LOL....

Thanks Maggi, I know of Ms. Pritzker's ties to the
subprime mortgage creation & its aftermath through Superior Bank.

But my concerns are directed to specific current daily problems facing my clients who are undergoing financial meltdown right now. And there are limited solutions to their problems.

mornin' maggs, keep the pressure on.

Coreen, the problem with any plan by Obama or McCain (I just threw McCain in for grins) is that nothig they propose will do anything until about a year from now - which will be too late for many people caught up in the escalating mortgage rates of the subprimes (ironic in the face of incredibly low rates in the prime dontcha think?)

Barack Obama Condones Coordinated Internet Harassment by his Thugs

"The idea here is to turn the internet into a constant Pro Obama "echo". This includes going where people who do not support Obama are. It also included driving all Hillary supporters away from presumably "objective" sites until the sites become All Obama All The Time.

The most recent example of Obama-Planned onslaught was seen yesterday, when many established bloggers' and message board users' names and their links ... were nearly simultaneously forged in messages on forums and blogs all over the net."

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com/2008/06/barack-obama-condones-coordinated.html

Coreen: Since you are apparently in the industry, so to speak, do you have any ideas of your own? Or do you see anyone with good ideas to help those already in trouble? Obviously we need more regulation going forward and both candidates believe in regulating the marketplace. But, what can be done now? Did Hillary's idea of bloc grants to affected communities make sense to you?

pogo: As you mention the incredibly low interest rates, I'd like to throw in that money does seem to be available. Not a day goes by that I don't get a call from some institution wanting to loan me money on my already-paid-for home. So, if funds are available, why are people having such a difficult time re-negotiating their loans? There's a piece of this puzzle I'm not getting.

If you would read a "feel good" story about how hundreds of people around the world can create something wonderful by doing only one small thing, here is the "Share a Square" anniversary.

http://thiseclecticlife.com/2008/06/09/share-a-square-anniversary/#comment-9897

Yes, Pogo, there is no correction available today for
the economic problems facing so many, other than
those who can meet the bankruptcy protection criteria.

Much of the foreclosure dilemma stems from refinancing when homeowners transfered their unsecured debt (primarily credit card debt) to secured debt--resulting in the potential of loss of their home.

Not to mention that many of these people are in mortgages that require a monthly payment that exceeds 50% of their take home pay--doesn't leave much for the rest of daily living.

If I were a cynic, I could say I thought Obama & for that matter McCain both claim to be able to forge an alliance across the aisle, but none of them have done anything to address the foreclosure crisis & the potential credit card debt problem lurking. Lots of hand wringing & oh my's but little actual answers--oh, but Bear, Stearns was bailed out in a nano-second!

Off to the office, take care.

Jamie: Thanks for that url. As soon as my kid makes her morning phone call I'm going to ask her if that's the project she's engaged with. It sounds like what she's been doing, but it could just be something similar.

Posted by: Coreen | June 10, 2008 11:07 AM

One thing probably too late for your current clients is to change the current bankruptcy law to put housing loans in front of credit card debt and to allow judges to restructure mortgages to either add on at the end of the loan or other possibilities.

Thanks to Joe Biden and his ties to the usuary industry and other spineless Democrats who added to the problems of working class Americans....but what the hell who needs 'em.

"above an income of $50,000, 58% and up itemize"

Pogo,. . call me slow , but i'm confused here:
Is that 58% of people making more than 50K, itemize?

Katherine: Wasn't there a recent vote to amend the bankruptcy law to allow bankruptcy judges to restructure homeowners' mortgage debt? I can't remember whether it lost outright or the vote was blocked.
One thing for certain, with a projected 6 seat Senate pickup, the Senate Dems will have the muscle they need to pass legislation, if they are willing to take a stand.

oh my, i just made friends with Newt Gingrich on Facebook. Help!!!!!

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1307727477

Pogo said,"HD, I doubt that my eyes will be cooperating by the time Ferguson's musical guests appear. Checking the old eyelids for cracks will probably be the only activity I'll be engaged in by then."

Try taking a nap. you might get little pogo to record it for you. caffeine products have been known to work. LOL other than that I don't know what to tell you.

On further listening to what is on line this double set is really a throw back rockabilly style album. If you like that sorta thing you might enjoy this album. I do. if you have a computer at home that is not subject to the whims of your company's IT dept try googling The Boxmasters and you can listen to a few cuts before you open the wallet and drop a few dead presidents on the counter.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

Rezdog, Pogo: The income statistic may be accurate, but I would pretty much bet that all homeowners itemize deductions. Interest payments and property taxes are almost always likely to be much higher than the standard deduction.

Craig: Did you do this voluntarily or were you coerced?

http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/12132007_Bankruptcy_Code.asp

Maggi
This is from about a year ago. There probably was a recent attempt and the spineless Democrats probably let them.

Craig
On Facebook...can't you just say NO! :)))))))))))

Patsi wrote thast she thought mccain "went through a hell of a lot for this country." I seem to remember him making commie propaganda for the North Vietnamese. Other prisoners did too, and got court-martialed.

Only John got promoted for collaborating with the enemy. As with bush's AWOL, if your daddy was a Big Shot, the story got spun that you "went through a hell of a lot."

Katherine: Thanks for the info. I have to say that on the face of it it looks like another instance where the failure to compromise resulted in nothing being accomplished. As I read it, there were objections to the rate freeze but not to amending the bankruptcy bill to allow restructuring of mortgage payments. Why not pass what can be passed? Oh...I forgot...politics.

well i must admit i kinda like the guy, so i confirmed. this Facebook thing is fun, folks -- i recommend it to others (you can always say no to Gingrich if you want)

xrepublican: As someone who lived through that time, I don't recall that any of our Vietnam POWs were court- martialed. It may be a failure of memory. Could you provide me with some names, please?

Katherine: I look to Dick Durbin to make a push at becoming Senate Majority Leader in the next Congress. That would be interesting.

"Obama should of got a big bump after Hillary suspended but he didn't."-vadayl

Have you not seen some of the latest polling?

Here is a link that has the specific subject you mention.

http://openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=6255

Rez, that figure would be low. 58% in the $50-75K category itemize. Higher brackets than that itemize at higher rates than that. maggs is probably mostly right about homeowners itemizing (which would make that part of the Obama econ plan based on incorrect info). Hell, Turbotax will tell you which works best for you.

Maggi

I think I would rather see Chris Dodd as majority leader

Katherine: Oh, I would too ... and he came within one vote of Harry Reid the last time. But, I suspect that Reid may be in trouble because he backed the wrong candidate initially. I've read that it was Durbin who convinced Obama to run in the first place.

A lot will depend on how many seats the Democrats pick up. It's my understanding that people like Tester and Sherrod Brown are very very unhappy with the Reid style of leadership and have little use for Obama
and his ilk and want someone who is going to push for "a blue collar agenda." Brown studiously stayed out of the presidential race as did Tester

Reid rendered impotent Obama's little baby tirade against Lieberman by saying it was nothing but empty threats.

Ask Michael Dukakis about poll numbers.

Katherine: Interestingly about Sherrod Brown ... he was the only progressive Democrat to vote against cloture on the Environmental bill. I assume that he felt it was not strong enough.
I watch the Senate proceedings a great deal. In fact, that is what I will do this afternoon. It seems to me that Reid just gets rolled by McConnell all the time.
It is reported that McConnell is in trouble in KY. If he should lose (keep your fingers crossed), then John Kyl is likely the next majority leader. He is really a piece of work ... I wonder if Reid could handle him.

Rez, here's the link to the itemization rates for you to noodle. Short story is that about half of the folks who itemize make less than $50K, about half make more.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22502.html

Sherrod Bown is a great guy. I think he is someone with real leadership potential. He is bright, thoughtful and experienced and not overly ambitious.

Mitch McConnell makes me ill --when Trent Lott was still around I used to think of them as Tweedledee and Tweedledumber I hope Kentucky shows him the door -he can join Lott''s lobbyist firm.

Thx Pogo..

G-Man, chill. . only some poll numbers that daryl was asking about. nothing to go undercover and investigate here . .move along.

pogo: I am definitely in the less than 50,000 category and always have been (one of those downscale types), but have itemized for many many years .... primarily because of home ownership.
I know more than a few people (mostly young folk) who make more than 50,000 but don't own homes, for whatever reason.

Hillary Has NOT Released Her Delegates

"READER ALERT: Another Democratic blog posted a misleading headline today, Hillary Releases Delegates, citing a quote from a delegate who was reportedly on a conference call Monday night with Clinton and Harold Ickes.

The report is UNTRUE. It’s an unsubstantiated rumor, most likely being pushed by the DNC mafia who are now acting as if they are afraid to let Hillary’s delegates have the historic opportunity to cast their votes on the first ballot for the first viable woman candidate for President, and the candidate to whom they are pledged."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/10/hillary-has-not-released-her-delegates/

Katherine: I actually like Trent Lott ... not his politics, but his practicality. He actually did know how to compromise to get things done.
Mitch McConnell is just plain nasty IMHO. And, he looks like a boiled egg.

As to Sherrod Brown ... I don't know that much about him, but I think his wife is great!

Bethybood

I love the Log From The Sea of Cortez. I picked up my copy in a delightful book store in Pacific Grove very near Steinbeck's home. Paperback easily available. Now if you want the first edition hardcover, it will set you back a bit.

http://www.powells.com/biblio/17-9781135846763-0

Craig,

That's quite the story. Does it take the cake for you in terms of verbal harassment from top politicos?

Katherine: Another thing about Sherrod Brown ... as my ex (who lives in Ohio) says ... anyone would be better than Mike DeWine.

Anyone interested in seeing how the Senate races are going currently

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Senate/Maps/Jun10-s.html

Current projection is for a possible 7-seat pickup, not including Minnesota...but some very interesting states.

Patsi

""Give it up -- you look better than you deserve to." Ha!"
LOL

How do I know my youth is all spent?
My get-up-and-go has got up and went!
But, in spite of it all, I’m able to grin
And think of the places my getup has been!

Reality Infection Program (codename Obama)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys68HEA1DLA

The liberal media took a page out of the neo-con playbook...read The Republican Noise Machine...one side is just as bad as the other. (Just like there is virtually no difference between KO & BillO anymore. Both have an agenda; neither can be considered a credible journalist.) Can you imagine if we didn't have the internetsss?

Craig....
sorry.... I don't have the time to keep up with this blog..... getting busy making Facebook pages is not in the cards for me..... taking more time to read books is.....

maggi....
just finished listening on NPR about how so many people in this technological age think the solutions to this nation's problems are simple because they can google stuff on the internet...... the speaker said if we don't start learning some subjects more in depth.... we would experience another "dark age".....

after reading some of the posts on this blog written by supposedly educated people..... I can see her point.....

rr - Misinformation or not, can you imagine life without the internet and only having access to the MSM-feed?

Craig - I think there is a book (or ten) in this mess.

DNC = Dolts, No Chance (Gordo - I think they must realize that they've backed a loser, but they don't have the oves to admit it. Every move they make gives the GOP hope at another term in the WH...and they continue to attempt to build a case to blame it all on HRC. No mirrors at DNC HQ.)

Poll: 71 percent think Iraq spending hurts economyStory Highlights
Only 36 percent polled said the situation in Iraq was worth going to war over

Washington Post: Iraq war will wind up costing the U.S. government about $3 trillion

President Bush disputed notion that the war was negatively affecting the economy

Next Article in Politics »
(CNN) -- More than 7 out of 10 Americans think government spending on the war in Iraq is partly responsible for the economic troubles in the United States, according to results of a recent poll.

Several months ago one of the groups like Blue America began a campaign to tie the war to the economy. Their candidates have all signed a pledge to end the war now. What is wrong with Congress

RR,

It may be even worse than that. Even the people that are experts in very specifc fields have a very narrow focus. So we end up with very few people able to look at the broader picture and make sense of it.

That is why I worry about Obamania, I get the sense that many of his most ardent supporters are more enamored with his style rather than substance. Since he is still undefined in most voters minds the republican opportunity is to frame him as an exceptionally liberal politician, outside of the mainstream. If that works, and I think that there is a very good chance that it will, it does not bode well for his chances in November regardless of the condition of the economy.

B'rye - Maggs is correct. Blame the speculators for the high prices. (Senator Clinton mentioned this as one of her concerns.) The strategic reserves are almost full, too. W's cronies would love to go drilling in ANWAR. This is a conspiracy that needs to be investigated. Are there any real journalists left?

Lots of blame to go around, but most of the finger-pointing shouldn't be at the Mid-East this time.

blueINdallas: I differ slightly with your assessment of the contest. I fully expect Sen Obama to win, albeit without my help. Moreover, I think that's what the GOP is hoping for. They realize how complex our problems are and are banking on the Democratic President and Democratic Congress being unable to deliver change sufficient to improve the situation as quickly as people want.
One of the problems with instant information and instant gratification (how many people are in debt because they can't live without Wii and Ipod and a new cellphone every other month, etc?) is that people will also expect an instant fix on all these "simple" problems.

BlueINDallas: In fact the Saudis have announced their desire to have a meeting between the oil-producing states and the oil-using states to come to some meeting of the minds ... and have stated that they are willing and able to produce all the oil that is actually needed. They, too, blame the speculators.
BTW, apparently one of the countries that has an active commodities trading market is Dubai. Good old Dubai....

The Michaelle Thesis has been out there since Feb.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8642.html

maggs - So, you think GOP wants to lose because they can't figure a way out of this mess...and they don't think the Dems can, either?
Nobody with real power willingly gives up power.

Notice that the news on Iraq is getting somewhat better? Iraqi's are informing on weapons stashes?
If the GOP can keep the war off of the front page this fall, it will help them retain power.

Right now, the economy is the focus. It certainly has taken the focus off of the war. It's just too bad that we still have troops over there.

Bowman: I hear far too many Obama supporters rhapsodizing over the impact the mere election of Sen Obama will have on our standing in the world, as well as our own ability to pat ourselves on the back for overcoming racism.
I submit that the first and $3.75 will buy a Starbuck's grande iced mocha and the second will be mere wishful thinking.

"And think of the places my getup has been!"

ROFL Jamie -- Ain't it the truth?

And I'm with you Renee -- I don't quite understand Face Book and My Space et al. The big problem is that once, when a friend asked me to check out her daughter's page, I kept clicking along and trying to get to it, then they asked for my email and all of a sudden they displayed my entire address book! And if hadn't stopped it, what would have happened is that everyone in it, including business contacts, would have been invited to "be my friend" -- Christ!

Polls change from day-to-day and have been incorrect even on a specific day...but you go ahead & take solace in those poll numbers. "Whatever gets you through your life..."

Sometimes you don't know whether to laugh or cry. The media crucified John Kerry for "nuance." Now, Obama is a free trader and advocating all these centrist positions, and suddenly, MSNBC is saying it's a good thing, that "nuance" always has several parts and you use different parts for the primary and the general.

BlueINDallas: Two things ...
I don't think the GOP wants to lose so much as many of them believe things will get worse (economically) before they get better ... and Dems can be blamed for not fixing things. My own financial person says he doesn't expect the housing market to turn around until 2011!
As to bringing the troops home ... I would just like to remind you that even Hillary and Obama said (at least early on) that residual troops would be left ... just not "combat" troops.

Patsi: I think that in politics nuance is code for "we don't know what in the world this guy really thinks, but we're not about to admit it."

National polls on the November election are useless. The state polls correlating with the electoral college are the only ones that count. Just like we had trail mix spotters in the primaries this blog should have state poll spotters to report on their state polling changes, especially the "swing" states. No surprise here in AZ, McCain will win by ten points in the latest poll.

Blue.....
no I can't..... but just because someone can google any topic doesn't mean they understand that topic fully enough to be informed...... as "they" say..... a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing......

one example that was given on this program was that at the time of starting the Iraq war, about 70% of this nation thought Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11...... 5 yrs laters.... 50% still believe this..... and only 1 in 7 people can locate Iraq on a map......

these type of statistics do not bode well for this nation being able to make informed choices while in the voting booth....

I do agree with the opinion that our MSM is a joke.....
this whole primary season has been about stupidity, IMO.... instead of focusing on the issues we get talking heads focusing on Hillary's "shrillness", McCain's "oldness", and Obama's oration skills..... what a bunch of crap....

Renee: Amen!
I'd give you a knuckle bump but I've been reliably informed that I am too old to do so.

Renee - One in 7 can locate Iraq on a map? Wonder how many can locate the US on a map?

Just read a few pages of that Thesis and post your thoughts on it.

vadaryl: I have already done so. I think it was written by a very young woman. I had the same thought when I read Hillary's commencement address ...
The real question is...how much of that thesis would Mrs Obama change if she were to re-write it today?

"I'd give you a knuckle bump but I've been reliably informed that I am too old to do so."

Cuidado Maggi, . . you might find your name on a terrorist watch list!

http://mediamatters.org/items/200806100001

Good afternoon, I'm late to the party, as usual.

Craig's facebook page is pretty dull, isn't it. Here's an example from myspace, maybe he can get some ideas from it:

http://www.myspace.com/jokeline

Or not.

That ought to be riveting ... Maxine Waters and Sheila Jackson Lee questioning Scott McClellan. Wheee

isn't the knuckle bump called "Dap" in the black community?

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

I thought I'd chime in with a different perspective. I'm a military mom; my only son is currently on his second tour in Iraq. His first tour was quite an eye opener. Some of the things he wrote about in his letters horrified me, and when he came back home I begged him to pursue a new avenue so he wouldn't get sent back.

But like many of the heroes serving there today, he told me his country needed him, and he would do all that is asked until they can ask no more. He will be voting this year through an absentee ballot, and he's voting Obama for one simple reason: through his firsthand experience in Iraq, he knows Americans can't afford another President who will wage unneeded wars. Many of his fellow soldiers feel the same. For them, their vote could be the difference between coming home to their families, or fighting for their lives in a country that does not want them nor need them.

I ask you to please reconsider. McCain has already aligned himself closely with the policies of the Bush administration, and he's made it clear that he wants a lengthy US military commitment to Iraq. As tensions in the region rise, I fear that a McCain presidency would not only mean my son will be sent on a third and fourth tour to Iraq, but that we'll also have a very real danger of falling into another unneeded conflict with Iran before his term is over.

I think Michelle would of written the same thesis today as she did in 85, maybe a little stronger.

In today's world where MONEY TALKS and B***S^^T WALKS, there is no need to be Machiavellian. You just need a rich back man. Just ask prince O-bot, I'm sure Kerry or Oprah can foot any kind of bill that's necessary.

Karl Rove, however, is a smart campaigner and as I read in a previous post, the mess is so big and so bad, that rather than giving the Dems a rough way to go, perhaps the Republikans should be made to clean
up their own STY.

The Executive branch can't do very much without the Legislative branch, all the congress has to do, is deny any more war funding, and deny the Pentagon any more "black bag" money. Let the "mercs" look after themselves, that's what they're best at.......

vadaryl: I think she probably would as well. It's just that I'd be so interested to hear her response if someone asked her the question.

Pissed: The Congress is currently denying war funding.
And you can take some comfort in the fact that it looks as if the next Congress will be even more able to set the agenda, as the majorities seem likely to increase.

Maggi.....
I high five my hubby all the time...... High five there, girl.....

Bowman..... let me share with you my own personal "Obamania" story....

one of my best friends is a 76 yr old woman who loves Obama..... I've tried hard not to let that fact get in the way of our friendship..... while driving back from a book club meeting recently, she told me emphatically she "knows" Obama will make a great president..... this is a woman who can't stand "Jesus freaks"..... and we've had many conversations about the fact that they don't really "know" what people experience when they're dead..... I couldn't let that pass and said to her..... "please explain to me what's the difference between what you just said and someone who claims to "know" that Jesus is our one and only savior"..... she got really pissed off at me for even suggesting that the 2 things were related..... l value this friendship so I let it drop....

but the fact that I see no difference between the 2 stances and so many cannot..... scares the hell out of me.....

Wonder how the "vetting committee" is meeting, since Caroline is in Italy.....

The most thoughtful analysis on oil (actually gas) prices I've heard identified 3 major factors that have drive the price of crude futures up. The factors the guys mentioned were (1) nervousness among speculators over the continued supply of oil driven by (2) in the prospect of instability in the middle east (particularly tied to US intentions of pulling out in Iraq and doing something stupid in Iran) and (3) the weak dollar making oil more expensive when purchased with US dollars. And of course they mentioned in passing that big oil is enjoying record and near record profits despite the increase in the price of the raw material (crude). They touched on supply/demand pressures, but dismissed that as a major force in the price of gasoline here.

Blue, what, you don't think 2 days is sufficient to indicate that a lead is stabilizing? You think the polls change? Silly woman. LOL (p.s. - What EProf said).

Dog's -- Have had a similar experience. My old friend and I did just fine with our differences until he attempted to sell me on the idea that WWII need not have been fought and that all world crises could be handled by negotiation.

Pogo: With regard to the polls and the shape of the election ahead, I will be very interested to see if Obama actually doe agree to have a series of town hall meetings with McCain. I'm guessing it just won't work out somehow or the other.

Hi colleen, nice to see you around - storming up your way yet? Looking imminent here.

Hillary did not release her delegates: http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/10/hillary-has-not-released-her-delegates/#more-3026

vadaryl: Depending upon the VP pick, I pretty much think she intends to have her name placed in nomination, at the very least.

Time to go drag in the trash cans and get something done around here.

"I'm a military mom; my only son is currently on his second tour in Iraq. His first tour was quite an eye opener. .....He will be voting this year through an absentee ballot, and he's voting Obama for one simple reason: through his firsthand experience in Iraq, he knows Americans can't afford another President who will wage unneeded wars."

Colleen. My nephew (a marine) said the same thing. He has had one tour in Iraq and is heading off to Afghanistan in August.

Nobody is going to pull us out of Iraq precipitously. However, with McCain we might never get out there. And anyone who thinks having US troops in Iraq is the same as having them in Korea doesn’t know what they are talking about. The Iraqi government will only take on responsibility once they believe the US really has an end date. I've always felt the policy differences on getting out of (as opposed to getting into) Iraq between HRC and BO were minimal. But I think the policy differences between HRC & BO on the one hand and McCain on the other are huge."

maggs, that will be interesting to see - if history is a teacher, he (well, Plouffe and Axelrod) won't agree as long as he's ahead in the polls and nonparticipation doesn't appear to hurt him. Since I don't support McOldfart I don't have a problem with him taking that position from a practical standpoint, but it doesn't say a lot for his character and his confidence in the strength of his positions in an electoral sense. IMHO, if he dodges those fora, it confirms a lot of what I have suspected.

Sebelius would not be a good idea. Doesn't do much geographically and no national or international experience to fill in Obama's shortcomings.

The current standings for the Dem edition of the VP stakes is interesting. The new round starts tomorrow.

http://innovation.cq.com/vpmadness

Renee, what gets really interesting is when my sister the Jehovah Witness & my uncle the evangelical, John Hagee devotee, & George Bush worshipper get together in the same room.

I have learned from experience that you can't win an argument with a religious freak. The Witnesses, at least, stay out of politics.

"I have just received an e-mail message from Mary Boergers, a former Maryland State Senator and a pledged Clinton delegate. Mary was on the conference call with Hillary Clinton last night, and she has given us permission to publish her message in full:

So to me the strategy is clear. The Obama folks want to try and prevent us from nominating Hillary at the convention and voting for her at the convention.

We need to attack Howard Dean for saying that he hopes there isn’t a role call vote at the convention."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/10/breaking-hillary-has-definitely-not-released-delegates-call-to-action/#more-3030

jamie, exactly. How many of the 22% (or whatever) Clinton supporters would decide to vote for Obama simply because he chose a woman as VP candidate? I would obviously just be guessing - not being one - but I'm betting it wouldn't be many.

RR

In the theater I believe it is called "suspension of disbelief"

In real life, I call it blind faith. I love all the predictions we get on this blog about this or that happening. It is just amazing how well members of this group can fortell the future. Makes me want to gaze into my crystal ball. If you see a new blogger on this site called Channeling Jean Dixon, I might just be getting into the prediction business.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/06/karl-and-me.html#comment-100474

It's too easy to predict what the Democrats will do. You just look at which scenario will likely result in the worst possible outcome for the party, & there you are.

Flatus

In one of your comments this morning you said you would like to know BO intentions in writing: His book

From Audacity of Hope: ‘I will stand with the Muslims should the
political winds shift in an ugly direction

Three steps that could lower oil prices and nobody is talking about them
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/40360.html

McCain is playing with the right wing nuts talking about endless tax cuts.
Obama is playing with the left wing nuts talking tax the greedy bastards and give it to the poor...

What a choice.
LOL
Jack

Bowmanc.

I have posted several times to the people that can see into the future and asked if they had lottery numbers so I could win Saturday nites game. So far, no responses.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

"If you see a new blogger on this site called Channeling Jean Dixon, I might just be getting into the prediction business. "

ROFL, Bow....who knows, maybe ou can become president of the US -- it's all New Age now....

LOL

Obama is having problems with his VP selection committee.

"perception and hypocrisy"

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/06/the-insider.html

Jack

earlier someone linked the price rise of gas to market talk about pulling out of iraq. the polls now show overwhelming support for ending the war, but would this change if the pollsters put to john q. public a hypothetical choice of immediate withdrawal and higher prices at the pump OR stay there and cut fuel costs? a twist on the old guns or butter argument. maybe this is part of the reason congress has not lived up to the mandate of the last election.

Bowman, I have an uncanny ability to predict the future - as soon as it has become the present. I'll keep you posted.

Obama will pick someone to run with him as his vice presidential cnadidate.

See how easy it is to predict the future.

Pogo

"How many of the 22% (or whatever) Clinton supporters would decide to vote for Obama simply because he chose a woman as VP "

My guess is somewhere around nada, zilch, zero, and bupkis.

pogo...

I have suspected this for some time, but you are an immensely talented man... ;-))

LOL- nothing to see here, folks-

The Bilderburg Blackout
http://www.slate.com/id/2193220/

Pogo,

I was going to tell you that. But you already knew it. And now it is history.

Gordo

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/06/karl-and-me.html#comment-100471

It is one thing to just do cut and paste from another site. It is another thing to do it in such a way as to be deceptive and dishonest.

When I saw this, it didn't look write since it appeared that Hillary Clinton had authorized this group to act on her behalf. She did not. You chopped out two paragraphs This is one person's opinion, and you are a fraud to publish it as if the statement came from Clinton.

Obama Rejects Criticism Over Adviser’s Ties to Home Lender

The presumptive Democratic nominee was responding to criticism after The Wall Street Journal reported that Johnson, who is leading his three-member vice presidential search team, received more than $7 million in loans from Countrywide Financial Corp. The Journal reported Johnson received at least two loans at below-market rates as a result of a relationship he had with the company’s CEO Angelo Mozilo.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/10/obama-controversy-over-advisers-ties-to-home-lender-is-a-game/

Say it ain't so O!

"I think they are a good fit and would make a great team. "

I don't disagree with the choice because she is a woman. As I said: Little geographic balance and wrong kind of experience.

Now I do believe the Obama camp may be considering her because she is a woman with hopes of drawing in the Clinton supporters. If that is their reasoning, then it would be another insult along the lines of, "come on sweetie don't be mad. I got you a dress it's just not the style you liked in the first place."

Now I know he is lying. Saying he doesn't remember whe he last had a cigarette. Anybody that has quit will remember the last on they had. For me it was right before midnight December 31, 2006

In a wide-ranging press conference here, following a tour of Barnes Jewish Hospital, the Illinois senator largely ducked questions about whether he would help Hillary Clinton pay off her campaign debt ("It was not a topic that was the focus of my meeting with her") how many of the 10 town halls John McCain has proposed that he would attend ("it will be probably be somewhat fewer than 10, but more than the three we have already agreed to" and the last time he had had a cigarette ("I don't remember, it's been a while ... months").

"Media Myth:
All good Democratic Stepford women will come together by November and follow the piper Obama.
I just don't think it's gonna happen. "

I don't think so either -- they are misreading us as usual -- what else is new?

Prof Marcia, Blue, Patsi -- we're with you -- don't let the nincompoops get you down -- sorry to put it out there so crudely, but there it is.

hw, thanks - prescient, too.

Bowman, you have to be quicker to make it in the prediction biz.

jamie, that's about the range I thought.

Obama; "I won't vet the vetters!"

Isn't that how Bush ended up with Cheney?

"

RFLMFAO!!!

And you can guess at what.

"Anybody that has quit will remember the last on they had." said Bowmanc

not to be argumentative Bowmanc, but I don't remember exactly when I quit ie, the date or the hour that some can recall. I remember it was after my Dad died (same week) but that is as close as I can get. Best move health wise I have ever made.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

oh and that has been about 10 years now.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

Bowman...

Absolutely! October 26, 1986...don't remember the exact time, but I certainly do remember the exact date.

HD, how long ago was that?

Oops, doots! Dueling posts!

So, hd, how long do you figure it took for the exact date to fade from your memory?

Before I read any of the latest entries, I have to say that
I remember making a very sanctimonious comment early this am.

While I meant what I said, I'm sorry if I made anybody sick. Sanctimony is such an emetic.

Also, if I pissed anyboy off, I regret that, too.

I think I freaked out because I didn't expect and was stunned by those sudden bursts of anger. They caught me by surprise. I'm enjoying what you're saying and suddenly there are sparks flying, and I can't figure ou why.

But then I already said I'm just not with it. Why do you get so mad? I like you all.

" the main reason why Obama will reject Hillary, he hates drama. "

But he loves him some Reverend Wright.....

Jamie --------------------

It was not my intention to mislead. There was too much to post, I've tried to shorten them. Looking at it now, I can see how someone could get the wrong idea.

"I have just received an e-mail message from Mary Boergers, a former Maryland State Senator and a pledged Clinton delegate. Mary was on the conference call with Hillary Clinton last night, and she has given us permission to publish her message in full: "

I have just received an e-mail MESSAGE from Mary Boergers, a former Maryland State Senator and a pledged Clinton delegate. Mary was on the conference call with Hillary Clinton last night, and SHE has given us permission to publish HER MESSAGE in full:

She and her refer to Mary Boergers. It was clear to me that the message was from Mary Boergers .

See y'all - gotta fly.

Patsi, you win the prize. Now I'm gone.

Craig,

Friends with Newt Gingrich???

pogo said, "So, hd, how long do you figure it took for the exact date to fade from your memory?"

seeing that I probably have PTSD, I was out of it while quitting. I guess I never made a big deal out of it. I just concentrated on getting over the want and the need. Then I put it out of my mind and now I only think of it when I am having a discussion like this.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

"You clearly state that if Obama picks any woman other than Hillary you Clintonista would find an insult."

Now I am serious. Read it again for comprehension.

I didn't say ANY woman. I said if they picked one ONLY because she was a woman in hopes of attracting the women who supported Hillary.

We supported Hillary because of the intelligence, expertise and ability we felt she could bring to the office. Just substituting any woman would not be adequate. It would be like substituting a made in China Walmart knockoff for an original Dior.

There really is a difference.

This is exactly as outlined in those two articles I posted. Put on a public show of support for Obama, but work behind the scenes to get the nomination on the roll call vote. The DNC and MSM handed this to Obama, we'll see if the Clinton campaign has anything on him. Better before Denver than in Oct.

Craig, I joined FaceBook and there're 182 Craig Crawfords.

What to do, what to do?

Oh yeah, I'm *twitter* Tiptoe Flowers.

tt

Patrick J. Buchanan

"What is Barack's problem?

Middle America knows little about him, and much of what they know they do not like.

By June, resistance to Barack's nomination in the party that he now leads was extraordinary ...

"He is not one of us."

Democrats may talk of making the economy the issue this fall, but Republicans are going to make Barack the issue. Story line: We cannot entrust our beloved America, in a time of war, to this radical and exotic figure who has so many crazy and extremist associates."

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26916

I'm startled by the revelation that Gordo may actually be human. Nice to see you have a voice of your own, Gordo, you should use it more often.

Btw, I hear there is a secret Michelle Obama video. Would you happen to know anything about that?

Hey Bri, if John McCain is incapacitated before the convention, guess who will be the only candidate left in the race?

Ron Paul! Ron Paul! Ron Paul! Whoooooo!

After saying that I didn't think Sebelius was a good choice because of geography and experience, I followed that up with

"Now I do believe the Obama camp may be considering her because she is a woman with hopes of drawing in the Clinton supporters"

Please note the words "MAY BE". Meaning, I don't know that this is the reason she is under consideration, but IF it is, then it isn't a good idea.

Champ - you're right, I don't know what you believe.
However, you have not "sounded" to me as if you questioned anything about him, but that's superficial so I withdraw that part of my comment.

I hope you do question him, tho, because there is so little known about him. We haven't seen him in action enough to learn what he's like from his reaction to things. That tells you a great deal about a person, and from what I've seen of his reaction, I think he is a fudger and a light-weight who will only make a decision or commitment when he is boxed in and has to jump in whatever way will give him an easy out.

These young people, and the other Obamaniacs really believe him, and I can't figure out why. He has made no new promises or said anything interesting - there is not one shred of empirical information to show he will be successful in his promises.

Old people get old by hearing the same promises year after year after year. The young people screaming about him will get old, too.

Two guys who are wondering what Obama's message is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AebguwqMbRM

Has anyone read the Scott McClellan book? It's poorly written, and REALLY tedious. I'm not sure if I can finish it - and I'm used to reading what most would consider to be boring texts!

"Go on, vote for the old white guy, you know you want to."

And this is the same old crap because you are too dense to either listen or understand.

Different day , same crap.

Since nobody here is talking to me, I'll just take my toys & go home.

And I'm telling Mom!

"They will have no place else to go but Obama." Quote by some woman on Chris Matthews. Ya' think?

So now we know how Mr. Bush fills the hour between his photo ops entering and exiting a church. He practices the Religiion of George,

LOL

JeeJee
Shame on you, posting that Republican humor amongst all these liberal Democrats.
Don't ya know this is a humor free zone. Aint nothin funny anymore.

Jack

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Pro-Choice Democrats and John McCain

Would McCain stock the Supreme Court with foes of Roe v. Wade? The 1973 decision guarantees a right to abortion.

The answer is unclear but probably "no." While McCain has positioned himself as "pro-life" during this campaign, his statements over the years show considerable latitude on the issue......

...Obama is no doubt pro-choice, but on the issue, he's hardly been a profile in courage. As an Illinois state senator, he famously voted "present" on anti-choice legislation. Voting "present" is a tactic used to express disapproval without actually taking a stand,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,... Voting present doesn't provide a platform from which to show leadership and say with conviction that we support a woman's right to choose,,,,,,,,,,,." ...they need not obsess on what a McCain presidency would do to Roe. That is one war McCain is unlikely to wage."
http://www.creators.com/opinion/froma-harrop.html

TIP TOE

A new one for the list. Jim Gibbons, Gov of Nevada ... messy messy divorce and an estranged wife threatening to spill the beans on corruption and sexual assault.

TIP TOE

Here's his Wiki link. Quite a list of scandals

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gibbons_(United_States_politician)

If I could ask a question, what would it take to overthrow Roe vs Wade? How would that be done? I'm just wondering how hard it would be to do and how long it would take.

How would it get before the court though? There has to be a case, right?

lizbeth

A case would have to move up through the courts from local to appellate to state supreme to Supreme Court. Then the Supremes would have to grant a Writ of Certiori for it to even be heard. Once heard then they would mull it over for several months and then finally render a decision.

It can take years unless it gets fast tracked in some way.

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/

For those interested in gardening I have started a blog with pictures and stories about gardening.
http://showyourgarden.blogspot.com/

Jack

Thank you, Jamie. So what I am thinking is, if McCain were elected, it would be for only four years I'm sure, and there wouldn't be time to overturn Roe vs Wade -- probably wouldn't be time. What do you think, Jamie?

C-SPAN

Kucinich bill on Impeachment now being read by the clerk of the House

Get the popcorn, sit back and enjoy.

Lizbeth,
It is mostly too late. There are enough conservative justices on the bench to over Roe v wade anytime they want too. It is going to be very difficult for a Mc Cain presidency to add any more far right justices to SC as long as the Democrats hold the power in the senate.

Jack

It would no doubt take a while I believe. I'm trying to think of exactly what kind of case this would be. Would it be before a jury in lower court or a judge and what would be the cause of action?

Nice blog, Jack. I can relate. My daughters ask me what I would like to mother's day and I say bedding plants or a rose bush.

I just wanted to discuss the possibilites of it actually happening in four years -- the overthrow of Roe vs Wade.

If that should happen and the court refused to hear a state case, would that then affect only that state?

Another good book on the court is Jeff Toobin's "The Nine"

all hail that beautiful little gnome, Dennis Kucinich.......

DK is the best!

Interest stuff Craig, I bet you wouldn't have enjoyed a call from Ahamdinejad however:

http://www.memritv.org/clip_transcript/en/1784.htm

and when visiting Memri, please review the other wonderful clips like the one from Galloway and what European Liberals hope Obama will do. Quite scary. No wonder Obama is looking now for a VP to improve his Foreign policy experiance. Funny, how just last month he declared his is expert enough...LOL

Maybe several months from now Craig, you'll steer clear from Axelrod.

Jack is right Lizbeth. And perhaps the best solution would be to kick abortion back to the States while protecting the right of those too poor to visit States supplying abortion. As long as the 14th clearly does not list fetuses as "persons" the government will likely not be able to ever ban abortion unless a majority vote for an Admendement which is unlikely.

What a wonderful windfall tax effort on the part of the Democrats...LOL A provision to sue OPEC for being a monopoly. Yep, let's raise prices even more. And the Democrats calimed their new bill would not repeat the mistake of the eighties.....sure

And a mandate to avoid penalties by investing in alternative energy. Corn? LOL Yep, solve the energy problem with another tax and absurd law suits. Meanwhile the bill suggest avoiding tax by investing in refineries. Say what? Oh, the refineries the Democrats have thwarted for two decades. How about shale oil investment...nope. No, it wasn't simply a windfall tax Obama and McCain avoided voting for, it was more of the partisan crap that is coming our way via Obama/Pelosi.

Split the ticket and save the Democrats.....

Okay, thanks. And for the book recommendations as well.

States rights people crack me up. If not for the Dems, civil rights would be a state issue.

Maxtrue wrote:

He was shocked to learn that I was Max and was delighted I was building him a new closet. I think his words were something like, "if only you could have bult him one to get back into". I couldn't stop laughing.

Man, that's not very cool. Take your homophobia elsewhere, please. If you're going to argue, keep it above board.

Gov Strickland of Ohio says No to Vp for Obami. And no if nominated.. Wants no part of Obama.

Have been to Colorado and on way back in western Kansas talked to co-op fellow. Corn is up in Western Kansas but they have had no rain, hardly a drop and sad thing is - no ground water to irrigate. He said unless they start t get rain very soon it will all be lost. But from middle Kansas on east, flooding fields and streams. Here in KC 9" in the past week. Hope western Kansas got some of it. Corn need for food and fuel.
Julie

Goodnight, Tony. : )

Ok, I've got to hit the hay. Have a goodnight!

Julie -- If you drove through Western Kansas (which Truman Capote wisely labeled a desolate tumbleweed tundra) you were traveling through my home area. Actually, my area is flatter and more desolate, out by Dodge City. You were no doubt travling I-70, through Hays and Salina. I love that long flat drive. You can just point the car and go....horizon is forever. That's the drive where my mother and I once saw five tornados dancing along the horizon. One of the most spectacular things I've ever seen.

Yo-Yo

“Gov Strickland of Ohio says… … … … Wants no part of Obama.”

http://ohiodailyblog.com/content/strickland-endorses-obama

“"Today, I announce my wholehearted and enthusiastic support for Barack Obama for President of the United States.” [Governor Strickland of Ohio]

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/06/08/obama_ohio.ART_ART_06-08-08_A4_T3AEDGR.html?sid=101

Total BS. Besides, Obama won’t pick Strickland for VP.

Maybe Strickland knows about at least one MO video and a BO audio.

Tony -- keep on PWD, posting while drunk...after all some people around here PWH, post while high all the time. Others just PWS, post while stupid.

Julie-- out by my hometown they hoped that the huge blizzard that killed so many cattle last winter might carry them through if the rains didn't come this summer. Guess it didn't....damn. My dad was a great poker player, and he always said playing cards was less of a gamble than farming. I'd love to go home for wheat harvest one more time....

Patsi

It looks as if the wheat crop is going to be a good one.

http://cjonline.com/stories/061008/bre_goldwheat.shtml

I believe the corn crop in Iowa may be suffering from all the rain. My wife on her drive back from Omaha said the fields looked like lakes in southwestern Iowa and Northwest MO. From what I've seen all of Iowa is having too much rain. It is too late to replant. If things dry up in the next week or so they might be able to replant with soybeans But after that it is wait till next year.

Jack

Night all bedtime

BTW no Youtubes this week. I'm a married man and the wife needs her sleep. She will be out of town next week. then we can party!!

Jack

Thanks Jamie. And the list continues.

Culture of Corrupters & Family Values Evil Doers

A - Abramoff, Jack; Allen, George; Ashcroft,John; Army, US (Pat Tillman and Jessica Lynch lies): Allen, Bob (trolling for $20 sex in bathroom); Addington, David (Cheney's Chief of Staff & Counsel & justifyied torture)
B - Bush, George; Brown, Mike (FEMA Brownie);(Black, Conrad on trial now); Batgnal, Joel (Homeland Security - Bin-Laden intel leak)
C - Cheney, Dick; Cunningham, Duke; Craig, Larry (bathroom lewdness)
D - Delay, Tom; Doolittle,John (R-Ca Abramoff scandal); Doherty, Chris (Reading First cronyism scandal, Education Dept.)
E -Edelman, Eric (Defense - Letter to Hillary)
F - Frist, Bill; Fastow, Andrew (ENRON); Foley, Mark; Foggo, Dusty (CIA); Feith, Douglas (Pentagon official distorted prewar intelligence); Fielding, Fred (W.H. counsel Bin-Laden intel leak)
G - Gonzales, Alberto (Fredo); Goodling, Monica; Griles, J. Steven (deputy interior secretary, lied re: Abramoff favors); Giuliani, Rudy (dirty money); Goeglein, Tim (plagarizing Bush aide); Gibbons, Jim, Gov. Nevada (divorce & corruption)
H - Hassert, Dennis; Hannity, Sean (Fox noise); Haggard, Ted (lusty evangelist); Hughes, Karen (Counselor to Bush)
I -
J -
K - Kidan, Adam; Kaden, Robert & Kristol, William (war architects. co-founded the Project for the New American Century); Kohring, Vic (AK State Rep extortion and bribery re: oil tax bill); Kott, Pete (AK extortion and bribery re: oil tax bill); Krongard, Howard J., Inspector General, Department of State - fraud & abuse in Iraq
L - Lewis; Lay, Ken, (ENRON); Libby,Scooter; Limbaugh, Rush (just because)
M - Myers, Harriet(attorney?); McNulty, Paul (Federal Deputy Attorney General - hearings); McConnell, Mitch (money to BAE)
N - Ney; Novak; Nacchio, Joe (Qwest insider trading); Nord, Nancy (lead toys); Nielsen, Jeffrey Ray (Rohrabacher (R-CA) aid, lewd lewd acts on a child)
O - O'Reilly, Bill (Fox noise)
P - Putnam, Adam (conservative media machine-Pelosi); Perle, Richard (Neo-Con jerk); Prince, Erik (Blackwater)
Q - Quakenbush,Chuck (California Insurance commissione)
R - Rumsfeld, Don; Rove, Karl; Rice, Condi; Rudy Tony; Renzi, Rick (Rep-R AZ govt land swap)
S - Safavian, David; Scanlon, Michael, Stillwel, Roger; Skilling, Jeff (ENRON); Small, Lawrence (Smithsonian): Stevens, Ted (Alaska); Spitzer, Eliot (NYS Govenor, sex scandal)
T - Tobin, James; Tobias, Randall (State Dept. & call girls); TEXAS (Because it exists); Tanner, John (DoJ, racist)
U - Ullman, Harlan (expert on national security & on madam's list); U.S. Congress (for knuckling under to Bush); Urbahn, Keith (Rummy's aid)
V - Voltz, Neil; Vitters, David (LA Senator & the D.C. Madam); Villegas, Martin; (Bush's bootmaker & illegal shipments of banned skins into the U.S.)
W - Wolfowitz, Paul; Westmoreland, Lynn (10 Commandments); Weyhrauch, Bruce (AK extortion and bribery re: oil tax bill)
X -
Y -Yoo, John (legal authority for torture)
Z - Zachares,Mark (former congressional aide to Don Young (R-AK), pleaded guilty to accepting tens of thousands of dollars in gifts from Abramoff in exchange for his influence-peddling.)

BTW, it took Kucinich 5 hours to read the 35 items in the list of the evil acts. One clerk was reading it tonight when I went out and another was still reading it when I got back.

He needs to be impeached.

tt

JACK: loved it ... wish I could do that, beautiful!!

thanks for sharing ...

!:^)
viv

I love the fact that you are so quick to google so you know names, etc...you never paid a dime's attention to the Kansas Atty General OR women's issues until you became the self-appointed King of Trail Mix.

Plus -- you missed the entire point -- the Supremes, assholes that they are, are not the issue here. It is what the state-by-state lifers are doing.

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