Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

good morning gang....

WOO! WOO!

morning peeps,
i am sure that enough of HRC supporters will move to BHO to win him the election (baring any more rev.wrights) but, for some he wasn't the right choice in the begining, and he is not the right choice now.

Craig..... LOVE this video....

glad I don't live anywhere near Unity..... it's a very small town and it's gonna be a zoo there today....

ET..... good luck with getting another business....
I know you make good money with your gas station.... but if you don't like it... it ain't worth it, IMO....

Happy Friday ! Everyone,

Love the video Craig.

We need to remember just how fast time flies, it will be fall before we blink .... All Barack and Hillary need to do is come up with one or two stories per week to keep themselves center stage and front page.

4th of July is next week.....

off to walk to work!

peace~

uh oh Craig,
You're going to get the gun opponents going again today, with those gun scenes you just showed.

Somehow, I don't think it's going to have as happy an ending as 'The Graduate' did, but that was great. Such a happy ending for your video.

Love it. One can always hope.

i've said from the beginning this campaign season is a movie..written and co-produced by Oprah...title of the movie..Don't Let the Media Sell You A President.

Craig...good to see you on MSNBC last night...sorry I haven't been able to post much as I am working too much! I have decided to be "undecided" in the GE.

Off to work!

Good morning everyone!

Craig -- Awesome video! The gun motif was apropos. Loved the ending too. One of my favorites.

mornin' all.

Can't watch the video, but unity in the party? Maybe between Hillary and Barack, but I don't see it among their supporters. 2/3 of Hillary's supporters (just my WAG) will vote for Obama, if for no other reason, because he's the Dem nominee and they consider themselves Dems (me, f'rinstance). Maybe half of them will be happy about it (not me, f'rinstance). And short of a monumental FU by Obama, he'll win in Nov., Gallup's daily from yesterday showing them tied notwithstanding. After that it's "Katy, bar the door."

Repost from last thread:

everyone in the DC area sleep better last night knowing you can blow intruders away again? I was on the road yesterday PM so I missed the fun here. And they think guns are dangerous? Shows that the modern equivalent of the pen is indeed mightier than the modern equivualent of the sword.

I did get a chance to think about the court's gun ruling and think it boils down to 2 key points: 1. the 2nd amendment confers on individuals the right to possess arms; and 2. a state (or territory or district) can't regulate the individual right conferred by the amendment to the extent that it can't be exercised. Everything else will have to be thrashed out in the courts. I think the self defense language - which the news media is obsessed with - was nothing more than rambling dicta by the uberconservative court elder - it is not in the amendment, and in fact is contrary to the language of the amendment.

Patsi - after you highlight the URL, try Control-C to copy it and Control-V to paste it. It might work if the right click copy function doesn't.

Hey Blonde Wino -- I'm still undecided too. But have you even started to think -- oh well, it would be nice to win...and some of my friends are now supporting Ombama...and maybe I'm feeling a little softer toward Obama because Hillary says she wants us to unify....and then I just think, no, no, no....not that guy and his Chi-town goon squad. Such tsauris!

Since the news isn't saying much about Iraq, you might enjoy this column from James Glanz

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/24/world/middleeast/24gao.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Krugman on oil speculation. He doesn't completely dismiss it as a possibility, but neither does he buy it as the reason oil prices are rising.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/27/opinion/27krugman.html?hp

On the DC gun thing -- in my part of Virginia it's not uncommon to see people open-carry. It's against state law to conceal carry in a bar or restaurant, but open carry is legal in those places.

I wonder what will happen to the crime rate in DC now that the law-abiding people can own guns.

jamie, the Bush administration lying about progress in Iraq? Who could have predicted that?

Still prefer "Two For The Road" ending with the classic, "Bitch" / "Bastard".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4WGp72peEM

i'm with alicia, being a true yellow dog, i sometimes tell myself to bite the bullet and vote BHO. but then i come to my senses, and i really truely believe that he is not prepared to lead this country. must vote for my in state dems, but i will not vote for BHO.
it may sound bitter, but it isn't a matter of him reaching out. as far as i am concerned he has burned the bridges.
as a mater of fact, the whole dnc organization has pi**ed me off-big time.

Alicia, that open carry law is not that uncommon from what I've heard. It strikes me as a remnant of the old west pre-concealed weapons permit days. Talk about a stupid law IMO. Let people carry guns only if they carry them openly? I really don't get it. I guess it does benefit the police, though.

Or, Pogo, she might try Safari to see if it will give a more Mac-like experience.

Yes the self-defense rhetoric was overdone. Granting individuals the right to have, and use, arms in the defense of home and hearth wasn't.

If I lived in an environment where I thought home invasion was a real probability, I would probably have a hand gun or a riot gun loaded with 00-buckshot.

Really well done video, Craig.

But, where I am, I'm satisfied having a combat fighting knife available.

FWIW, when one of my daughters was threatened with bodily harm, I stuck a butcher knife in my belt and confronted the miscreant who was stalking her. His behavior changed and there were no further incidents with him.

And don't forget - we're in another war.

http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/26/new-high-for-afghanistan-deaths/

And it's not going so swimmingly.

flatus, even the home-hearth argument was overdone IMO, considering that Scalia is an avowed originalist. If he was true to the original intent of the amendment, the purpose of the right was two fold - to protect home and hearth against government intrusion and the country against foreign threats. His wandering Dicta doesn't really reflect that.

This is interesting:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/rezko/1027788,CST-NWS-rezkoside27.article

Pogo

The quiet scotus decision was the one with Exxon.
I was wondering how that one will affect your business. Didn't it call for a real restriction of punative damages?

Jack

I wonder if in commenting on the Bush activity re Korea if any of our well educated media talking heads will point out that this is the anniversary of the day Truman sent troops to Korea

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history.do

IMO, open-carry is safer than concealed carry -- at least you can tell who's packin'.

Would a bad guy think twice about robbing a place that is well-sprinkled with patrons who have their guns on display?

Flatus -- the knife might work for you -- but I prefer 2.5 lbs pressure. Plus, I don't want to get that close to a would-be attacker.

Handguns Supreme
Despite the high court's misguided ruling, the District may still have some options.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/26/AR2008062603605.html

Why are Obama and Clinton having their Unity-squared event on a Friday? I guess they're doing it today in order to dominate a slow news day?

Why are Obama and Clinton having their Unity-squared event on a Friday? Alicia Knight

Alicia,
Maybe they hope the media will spend the weekend talking about it.

This is supposedly starting off a whole slew of 'Show of Unity' rallies for Obama in the near future.

To knock Mccain off the front page for a few days.

Would a bad guy think twice about robbing a place that is well-sprinkled with patrons who have their guns on display? Alicia

Now you're giving me visions of the 'Old West'. I can't quite imagine walking into Denny's and everyone having their guns sitting on the table next to them. Just in case.

What military enlisted people deserve.

--Competent leadership at every level; leadership that won't squander their lives on missions that are not truly in the national interest. Leaders who are technically competent in the military arts and impart that competence in those for whom they are responsible.

--A culture in which private soldiers have absolute confidence and trust in the people at their sides.

--Knowledge that their dependent families are free from financial worry and are provided healthcare that was promised them when their family member enlisted.

--Adequate pay.

--Absolute assurance that in the event of death or injury, the soldiers family will be well taken care of.

--Total confidence that disabilities resulting from service will be treated at the current state of medical profession for so long as the disability limits the veterans ability to function.

--Protecting the legal rights of the soldier from adverse legal actions at times when the soldier cannot properly react.

--Provide other incentives that a grateful nation may see fit in granting.

The new G.I. Bill is not something that soldiers were begging for, at least at the level that it was granted. As passed, it mandates a potential long-term liability of $60k for each member of the military. The numbers are astronomical and will surely come at the expense of other programs that may be more vital to the service member.

But, this I state unequivocally. Our honorably serving and discharged military deserve to go to the head of the line when dollars are being tossed at segments of our population.

Jack, the Exxon decision will work its way into my business. I am not sure how quickly or to what extent since it is a federal decision and most of the cases I have are in state court. That said, the last 2 punitive damages cases from the USSCt have been widely adopted and applied as strongly persuasive even though not binding - even by our court. I still haven't read the case to see how it's limited.

Alicia, you're smart not to piss off someone whose gun you can see - of course you still have to wonder, does he (or she) or doesn't he?

Flatus

My confrontation weapon of choice is an old Louisville slugger. Only used it once but it is amazing how much respect a 6'3 construction worker type can get from bad ass wannabes.
They went from going to kick my neighbors butt for telling them to quit blocking the road, to grumbling at me about how I didn't own the street. Then started telling me how bad they were as they beat a hasty retreat back to their car.

I'm just a peaceful man, leave me alone , leave my neighbors alone and we will get along.

Jack

Jack, the Exxon decision is limited to maritime cases with "no earmarks of exceptional blameworthiness". It is exceedingly limited and won't mean much in my cases.

Jack, I like your style.

Jack, you and I would make a great team! I'm 6'3 and 260-lbs and at least have the appearance of being able to fend for myself.

Next time I go to the base thrift shop I'll look for a nice hunk of hickory.

Blank screen

"Mr. Obama is an introspective candidate, and perhaps the best analyst of his own political style. “I serve as a blank screen,” he wrote in “The Audacity of Hope,” “on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25404397

Chloe,

"I can't quite imagine walking into Denny's"

A lot of patrons present at the Lubey's massacre regretted that their guns were in their cars and not on the table.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hennard

Thanks to all! The control-c/v works! I didn't realize it did on PCs....fabulous....thankyouthankyou thankyou!

I'm just sitting here watching an antique tractor parade on RFDTV. Hell of a lot more interesting than the alternative channels.

Jamie,
I was joking around.
Now that you bring up Luby's, it just makes my 'joke' seem mean.

patsi, you're welcome. i live to serve.

Posted by: Flatus | June 27, 2008 9:42 AM

Hear, hear! Flatus!

Here's a decent article that looks at the likely upcoming litigation in the wake of the Heller decision.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/27/washington/27guns.html?hp=&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1214575083-pxJVKeGQVDt2+tNzrQtuEw

Jamie the problem with using the Lubys is the rareness of such events. Yet Dennys probably deals with violent angry drunks on a regular basis. If open carry or concealed carry became common I would probably avoid Dennys after the bars closed.

Jack

"I'm just a peaceful man, leave me alone , leave my neighbors alone and we will get along."

Right on, Jack. If I get into a fight, I want you and Flatus along. I also like a baseball bat....took one after a guy stalking me in my youth as a matter of fact.

I guess it's genetic, but I have a violent reaction when someone pushes, shoves, hits or anything. I instinctivily hit back.

(As the hillbilly song goes, "...might be my family's redneck nature...." That would be, of course, if you consider one of the old Dodge City outlaws a redneck. He also wrote cowboy poetry, so who the hell knows what he was about. He died long before I was born.)

In Texas, there are a lot of places of business that have posted signs near the front door that say in essence that carrying a hand gun into their place of business is against the law. In Texas, also, it is not legal to carry a weapon in the open either. Since I don't carry or have a license to carry, I don't know how enforcible those signs are if push comes to shove. I hope it never happens again. WRT's the Luby Massacre, there has been some speculation as to what the damage would have been had there been some armed patrons in the restaurant that evening. Some argue fewer would have died or been wounded and some argue that more would have died because of bad shots. It has been a long time since that happened, but I am not sure any thing would have prevented him from doing what he had set out to do.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

Patsi
The nice thing about a baseball bat is it doesn't go off by accident. Im also think people can imagine the brutal pain of a bat. Gun violence is so much more abstact.

Jack

Did Rezko prosecutors protect Obama? Or should he be worried about what comes next?

"Is it possible that there are more troubling days ahead for Sen. Obama—particularly since rumors are rumbling around Springfield that either 1.) impeachment may be on the table for Blagojevich or 2.) Rezko's prosecutors are ready to paint a target on Blagojevich's back? Either way, speculation abounds that Blagojevich is no Rezko; he may not be willing to so quickly exchange his mansion for a jail cell."

http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com/search/label/follow%20the%20money

Meanwhile,Craig I finally went and watched the video.
You are getting good. I think you have mastered the medium. Fun entertaining and thought provoking.

Thanks

Jack

"Did Rezko prosecutors protect Obama"

Sure, but so what.
The Obama facts weren't relevant to the case and were not needed. Looks like a good example of prosecutorial discretion .

Jack

"In Texas, there are a lot of places of business that have posted signs near the front door that say in essence that carrying a hand gun into their place of business is against the law.

Dooty, back in the late '70s when I went to a couple of Gilley's 4th of July events -- they had those signs up as you walked in. That, and the waves of humid heat I felt as I got off the plane from Denver in Hobby.....stunned me.

"Looks like a good example of prosecutorial discretion ."

Maybe the prosecutors are waiting for the GE campaign to tie Obama to the IL corruption.

'dooty, I have to assume that there are laws in Texas, whether at the state or local level, that prohibit taking guns into restaurants and/or bars?

just noodling around, I found stats showing that only Swizerland has a higher percentage of gun ownership as a proportion of homes with guns than the US, and no one beats us when it comes to death by guns - whether homicide or suicide. Even so, homicide is beaten out by 14 other causes of death (about half lf all homicides are gun related), one of which is suicide (again, about half are with guns). Neither of them are in the top 10. Still with about 80 gun deaths per day in the US, it's nothing to be casual about.

http://www.gun-control-network.org/GF01.htm

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/deaths.htm

Jack

I wasn't recommending open carry of firearms, or carrying at all for that matter. A drunk and a gun are a dangerous combination. It's bad enough when you combine a drunk and a ton of movable metal.

Chloe's mention of Dennys just reminded me of this same conversation back in the early nineties.

Gordo, FAIAP we are in the GE season. I doubt you'll be seeing anything like that, considering how slowly the wheels of justice turn.

"Maybe the prosecutors are "
Yea , but my money is on:
They are all just hanging out having sex with each other, waiting for the black helicoptors wich will take them away to that secret CIA site and dispose of them.

Jack
Didn't Will Smith star in that movie?

gordo, that 'blank sreen' (9:57 post) ,i think is what troubles me.

"Yea , but my money is on:
They are all just hanging out having sex with each other, ..."

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Could be!

"Levine was the government's star witness against Rezko, but a newly unsealed defense filing alleges that Levine only agreed to cooperate after realizing that the government had learned that he frequented male prostitutes.

During the trial, jurors heard unsavory details about all-night drug binges that Levine had engaged in with a regular group of male friends, but St. Eve had barred any testimony about Levine's sexual habits."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-blago-interviewedjun27,0,6314824.story

Though he had tried to avoid taking a firm stand on either the ban or the case, an unnamed staffer last year told the Chicago Tribune that "Obama believes the D.C. handgun law is constitutional."

On Thursday, though, the Obama campaign distanced itself from that record, which would have considerable downside risk for a presidential candidate running on a 50-state landscape.

Obama's top spokesman, Bill Burton, said that the statement to the Chicago Tribune "was not worded as well as it could have been" and that Obama believes that generally the Constitution "doesn't prevent local and state governments from enacting their own gun laws."

After the high court ruling, Obama said in a statement he has "always believed that the Second Amendment protects the right of individuals to bear arms, but I also identify with the need for crime-ravaged communities to save their children from the violence that plagues our streets through common-sense, effective safety measures."

The Court "has now endorsed that view," Obama asserted, citing a passage in Justice Antonin Scalia's majority opinion which begins: "Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited."
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11384.html

Glenn Greenwald and Olbermann

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/06/27/olbermann/index.html

A diversion from the hand gun discussion.

"The New York City Waterfalls" created by danish/icelandic artist Olafur Eliasson

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/27/arts/design/27wate.html?ref=arts

4 waterfalls have been erected in the East River. So far
have only seen it on the NYC local news broadcast--
most intriguing.

So I suppose not being willing to clearly state a position and stick by it is part of the change we can expect? Oh, wait, we already have that in Dumya sort of - he, however can take a position but doesn't have the ability to state what it is clearly.

pogo,
Regarding open carry laws, I think criminals would be less likely to commit crimes if they saw that someone was carrying a gun than if the didn't know. Criminals aren't all that smart.

frank, I think they'd just find someone who wasn't carrying. They aren't that stupid.

Cute video, Craig. Sometime you're going to have to explain to us how you make these film segments? Are you constantly walking around the house with a DV camera, do you have to bring over a one/two-man crew when you film these, etc.? I'd be curious to know how you put the videos together - and then edit them with such rapidity.

Bill Gates moves on, but Microsoft keeps his 'quests'
SEATTLE (AP) - It is almost unthinkable that any one human could pick up where Bill Gates leaves off when he ends his full-time tenure Friday as Microsoft's leader.
alivehttp://apnews.myway.com/article/20080626/D91HVAS80.html

spinal tap's manager carried a cricket bat......seemed to work well for him..........

I am fully aware that multiple shootings are rare, however they give a different perspective when they're close to you. Having lived through the Dawson College shooting just over a year ago, with a daughter IN the atrium at the time, I find I agree with Jack. Someone with a baseball bat cannot take out 18 people at the same time. There is no reason on earth that anyone should have an assault rifle within reach. How many deer ya gonna shoot with that???

POLLS: Electability, “That Particular Questionnaire” & The DC Gun Ban

"Be sure to thank Democratic superdelegates for television advertisements similar to the following during the months of August, September, October and November:"

Obama And The Second Amendment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifEg1aq6Emo

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/27/polls-electability-that-particular-questionnaire-the-dc-gun-ban/#more-3270

"Manager of Spinal Tap for most of their career. .. Faked his own death in 1990 to get the band back together (the impetus for their 1992 reunion tour was their meeting at his funeral).

- Carried a cricket bat around on tour with him, as partly an "affectation" in Marty DiBergi's phrasing, but also because " it's come in useful in a couple of situations. Certainly in the topsy-turvy world of heavy rock, having a good solid piece of wood in your hand is quite often...useful." -

Bears a great resemblance to Tony Hendra."
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=761446

Get a grip, NH, Obama's coming

"NEW HAMPSHIRE RESIDENTS, grab something sturdy today. Barack Obama is coming and his ability to switch positions on major issues is dizzying. It wouldn't matter, except Obama wants to become President. If that happens, hold on for dear life.

Issues like Iran and Iraq are no small thing. Our next President needs to show a steady, dependable sense of command. We don't need one who changes his basic positions as if he were changing his socks. "

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Joseph+W.+McQuaid%3a+Get+a+grip%2c+NH%2c+Obama%27s+coming&articleId=5baca95f-ab59-4265-acbe-51c03a33652a

thanks Pogo. That has always been my thinking. I also think that as Blonde wino and I have stated here on Trail Mix, those with the biggest problems with the border and who crosses are those that live the farthest away from said border.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

No, McCain Isn't 'Doomed'

"Some pundits claim John McCain has no chance of beating Barack Obama. ......"...They need to better understand the rhythms of presidential campaigns and show more humility in a year that's been chock full of political surprises.

Some Democrats claim new polls by Newsweek and the Los Angeles Times showing Sen. McCain trailing by 15 points in each seal the deal on an Obama presidency. But both polls appear to be outliers. Other polls show the race to be close."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121452433272409083.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

"on subject"......bingo.....nice site........ "quite often....useful" lol

June polls aren't elections. But if the Unity tour does what it's supposed to, you add Hillary 18,000,000 to Barack's 18,000,000, and by November THAT my friends may be the reality, there will be a dem in the whitehouse, to which I yell, "WHEW!!"

Jamie....
I forgot to tell you yesterday..... that animated cartoon about baby boomers sung to the tune of Born to be Wild....... almost made me piss my pants!

There are no guns in this household and I don't know if there ever will be.....
but I sure am glad I have a choice.....

Gordo.... I live in NH and I won't be affected by the "unity" visit at all....
and all I can say is........ thank god!

".....It's a global economy and world out there. We must strengthen ourselves here at home with Zero-tolerence against countries who do not treat us economically equitably. (Protectionism, Nationalism, Buy American) We must endure short-term pain and global derision in order to insure our longer-term viability on the World stage, because we-re now headed in the wrong direction." John Hogue
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/06/biden-and-clark-in-vp-fight.html#comment-107789

Patsi said, "That, and the waves of humid heat I felt as I got off the plane from Denver in Hobby.....stunned me."

I can remember way back in the olden days when cars did not have A/C as you drove south from FTW as you got to about 50 or so miles north of Houston, it was like being hit in the face with a wet wash cloth. You had to have the windows rolled down or you were gonna fry your brain cells.

July is a pretty warm month but you should come back in late August or early Sept. The ground has had all summer to heat up and it really gets hot then.

I am told that down in the Rio Grande Valley it gets hotter and the humidity is higher. I have only been there twice and I remember it being a pretty miserable place to visit. The wind was blowing at about 25mph and it was like a blast furnace.

IIRC, Nashville can get pretty hot and humid also.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

Dooty, Patsi,

Right now, I'm driving a car with broken air conditioning. On top of that, my office is a meat locker. To better illustrate the temperature difference...

Car- 100 degrees
Office- 65 degrees

If I wear long sleeves to be warm in my office, I sweat my ass off in the car.

If I dress for the heat, I find myself having to step outside just to warm up...

that train Ad........it says 436 miles to a gallon.....I'd guess that means while it's underway in open country.....wonder how many gallons it takes to get that lummox rolling and out of town from a standstill.........

And yet, now that Hil'ry is carrying water for BO, I will have no trouble voting for the most capable person left on the ballot: John McCain.

BO has done as little as possible, flip-flopped when pressed on issues, has questionable associations, and is only in this position because the media supported him/looked the other way.

BO would be an absolute disaster of a prez & he doesn't deserve to be the Dem nom.

Smarmy won't get my vote.

"Pogo by all means feel free to post on the back channel blog, all are welcome and encouraged to enter into the discussion. "

Your entire mission was to have your own "table" in a junior high cafeteria, and secondly, to damage Craig's blog. At least you could be honest, Brine.

Coreen

I suppose New York does the best it can. : )

http://www.steveshamesphotos.com/images/Yosemite18.jpg

His tie matches her pantsuit. His plane was her plane. She pats him. He kisses her.

Can running mates be far behind?

barff

jamie.......looking glass, in pisgah.......(nc)

rats.

http://www.dantaylors.com/Looking%20Glass%20Falls%203e.jpg

Might as well keep my support for McCain out there lest anyone else feel like they are the lone holdout.

Dooty

"those with the biggest problems with the border and who crosses are those that live the farthest away from said border. "

On the border they are your friends and neighbors. Farther north they can be gangs, drug dealers, and people undercutting wages.

There has to be a way to protect and legalize the activities of the decent and hardworking while locking up the bad guys. If the Mexican government were a little more helpful, there would probably be less animosity.

"those with the biggest problems with the border and who crosses are those that live the farthest away from said border. "

I'm continually amazed at the people here who are shocked that I haven't moved from what has become the area of choice for many Latinos. And I've noticed that some of my neighbors gossip a bit about the large Mexican family down the street. They are great people, have improved their property. Their kids are very nice. Jeezus.

And I still say that I NEVER see those families using WICA cards at the grocery store. (Am seeing lots more whites, blacks and MidEast-appearing people using them as the economy has worsened....) So I'm not sure where all that "Mexicans abusing food stamps" screaming comes from.

Does Andrea Mitchell have a speech impediment?

So, BO's plane is bigger, less fuel efficient & more of a hazard to the environment.

BO gets no bump from Edwards' endorsement. Gore doesn't endorse BO until after it's a done deal; does nothing to help him win during the primary season. Hil'ry fights him until the end & BO has to pay her to support him.

Yep, another stellar candidate brought to you by the folks who brought you John Kerrey.

"But if the Unity tour does what it's supposed to, you add Hillary 18,000,000 to Barack's 18,000,000"

Finally -- somebody admits this horse race was a photo finish. Most of the comments from the O-team seem to indicate that Hillary went down in flames and in therefore old news. Fact is, she had half the votes.

Seriously, the media treats her like some huge loser. I just shake my head over this attitude.

"So I'm not sure where all that "Mexicans abusing food stamps" screaming comes from."

Patsi,

Most of that is right wing fantasy. The ones who might be doing that are U.S. Citizens who have hit hard times, not illegal immigrants.

Now there are large costs involved in immigration such as education and medical care. Those are among the reasons for the California budget mess, but food stamps not so much.

Good Morning/afternoon

Sturg, you call that a waterfall? This is a waterfall:

http://www.2geton.net/martin/moonbow/moonbow.html

The only place in North America you can see a moonbow.

aaaaahahaha..on a lighter note.. i'm going to try to BUY this licence plate...

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/080626/oddities/us_technology_transport_offbeat

jee....yup.....that's a goodern........

Looking at all these "Unite For Change" signs just makes me think why would he want to walk away from a match that would guarantee the election.

The Obama supporters aren't going to desert him just because she is on the ticket, and the Clinton supporters are more likely to join up with happy smiles on their faces instead of begrudging, "well maybe".

The Independents aren't going to run for McCain in a snit fit. They are too upset with Bush. That leaves the hard core Republicans, and I just don't see mud throwing from that crowd will work this time.

"you got to about 50 or so miles north of Houston, it was like being hit in the face with a wet wash cloth."

Yes indeed, Dooty. I'd flown in from humidity-free Denver. You know at Hobby, you get (or used to) off the plane outside the terminal. You could literally see the heat waves coming off the pavement. It really did hit you in the face.

I was covering the shows for a magazine....and my hair, naturally nappy anyway, turned into a Brillo Pad. But the main thing was the thirst. I could get free Gilley's beer...and I remember Billy Joe Shaver telling me that I should drink it all day long, that I'd just sweat it out and never get drunk. And that was absolutely the truth.

but i did happen to see this one in ' 63........nice here because it's a video......

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FhEKskDQ_HY

"Right now, I'm driving a car with broken air conditioning. "

Been there, Bear....here in another hot, humid place.

it's not rocket science... it was thissssss close but Obama's the nominee, and the primary season proved that Hillary is a Democrat through and through. Those who voted for Hillary can either choose to do what she's asking (support the nominee) or support that old coot who will have the same drooling oil execs and religious nutbars just waiting for a seat at the table.

sturg - Looking Glass, Pisgah, my old backpacking stomping grounds. I just love the Blue Ridge.

pogo......did you slide down the rock?

(sliding rock)

Jeejee

Very Pretty. Another of my favorites

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/885877-lg.jpg

It ends up here

http://mikebaird.com/yosemite/images/merced-river.jpg

You aren't the only holdout, Blue. I'm writing in Hillary no matter what. I trusted her to start digging us out of this mess, and I don't trust McCain OR Obama. Simple as that. If I voted for either one, believing that they are both phonies, I'd be casting a dishonest vote.

ty, you score one of those plates, get 2 - I'll buy one from you. LOL

"Wow seeing them together is sending a tingle up my leg! I'm surprised just how moved I am at seeing this. "

Ah....then I see it's time for me to go to the grocery store.

sturg, nope, never slid down sliding rock.. Probably should have made the time to. Mrs. P is about due a trip to Ashville to see the Biltmore, ameirica's biggest house - I may make that happen and take LP over to SR so I can say I have. I have been to looking glass falls, though - what a gorgeous spot. Spent more time in the Great Smokies NP than in Pisgah.

And...for the record...I refuse to choose sides. I have opinions, which I largely choose to keep to myself, but I consider everyone here my friend until and unless they prove otherwise. Or choose otherwise.

My license plate starts with DMB. As in Dumb. My nephew made fun of it. But at least they took off the stupid smiley face sun that Ernie Fletcher's people stuck on there. That really was dumb.

Sturg, here's an interesting article, I just wish they had a picture with it:

http://www.kentuckyliving.com/article.asp?articleid=2259&issueid=309

pogo ......when i was younger sliding rock was not so crowded......now in the summer it's just jam packed with touristas.......long line to slide down it......nice to see it though and maybe before school's out during the week it may be better........

I have no problem with the other blog.....all god's chilluns got wings......live and let live......

Great pictures, Jamie. Now I have to go pee....

The facebook site isn't about meat.. more than enough meat here...

i will probably be turning on the weather channel when HRC is finished speaking....

is he just going to stand up and say,"i agree with what sen.clinton said"

Nelson..why don't ya wait n see?

tylenol.... geez..... so touchy.....

I know that.... I wasn't dissing the site..... just stating why I wouldn't be going over there.... it's only my opinion..... I hope all who do choose to go there enjoy it very much.....

touchy? hmmm..

unfortuneatly, i will.
then i'll hate myself.

Renee, I don't like Facebook either, I heard that once you sign up, you can't cancel. Same thing with my webpage at yahoo, I would like to delete it, it's going nowhere. I would like to send my dog's picture, though, how do I do that?

I know I'll hate myself in the morning so I plan to sleep till noon.........

---i forget who

tylenol....
if I mistook your intent.... I apologize...
I truly am glad to see you posting here again.....

jeejee.... I'm the last person you should be asking for computer help.... I had my hubby send my pictures to Craig.... I confess I rely on him..... because I can.....

time to go back to work.....
everyone enjoy the blog of your choice....

Great quote, sturgeone!

not impressed

Re: Unity.. nice event.. more like 'em coming

who doesn't that surprise me, Nelson. It's a great speech.

that 'not impressed' was about the BHO speach.
yes, sturg. great quote.
the last time i went down that road was when the media decided that kerry was the man. i bit the bullet and did my best to support him.
i don't believe that BHO can walk on water. and nothing he has said shows me that he has the makings of a good president.

it is a typical rally speach

Dog in comment
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/06/barack-and-hillarys-hollywood.html#comment-107857

No legal experience except for the occasional standing before the judge and haven't done that in years.

I did listen to Warren Zevon this morning

Lawyers, Guns and Money
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5puAN1PGQw

Jack

Nelson.. you were expecting them to break into song? Of course it was a rally speech..

Enjoy the day everyone! I'm off to wander the jazz fest, plastic beer cup in hand.

sturg -

http://www.pegasuspublishing.com/BS-248-Sleep-till-noon-p-28017.html

Poor HRC. She must have been biting her lip today, having to utter those word and knowing deep down within her soul the inferior, the less qualified individual was ushered to the head of the line. Funny a CMH recipient wrote her the letter, and not BHO. Write in HRC come November, let her you know and understand she isn't forgotten, let her know that sexism will not be tolerated. There is probably not enough Listerine in the world to get the bad taste out of her mouth. Sitting there now looking at the incompetent one getting the promotion. For a person who so strongly fought for and was a promoter of women's rights, HRC became a victim of the the D party version of the glass ceiling. They were even called racist, by BHO supporters. This has to be a very bitter pill for HRC and Bill to swallow.

Pogo
Do any of your depositions get this interesting?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td-KKmcYtrM

Jack

Patsi,

I saw you made a comment earlier about the 18 million finally being recognized...consider the following:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSBm9MmLEOw

This race went 500 miles, and it was divided by the margin of 1 inch. Regardless, the winner was an absolute winner. He gets to pose with the check and do his burnout. That notwithstanding, it doesn't diminish how well the second place driver did.

If you want to draw a political parallel, Bush won by a whisker and governed like he won a Reagan mandate. If you want to show people that you can handle power, you must not be afraid to wield it when others question your right to do so...

I see the huckster of other blogs are still promoting their blogs here, trying desperately to siphon off a few members. It is not that we don't know you have a blog, it is just we rather spend our time here. So much for "F"ing loyalty, just despicable behavior on their part. I just deplore disloyal people.

Bear
Have you noticed the shape the Republican party is in?

Jack

Jack, can't open youtube here, so I can't say. The most interesting depo I ever was involved in was taken by a lawyer who after a pretty routine morning session (read "boring") went out at lunch and got 3 sheets to the wind. One of the other lawyers involved - who is now a U S Magistrate Judge - and I discussed whether we needed to report him to the state bar's impaired lawyer committee. We didn't - we figured he'd be sober by the time we got someone and that the transcript wouldn't adequately reflect his antics. Mostly they are akin to listening to grass grow.

FryDaddy,

As a Patriots fan, it pains me to bring up the Super Bowl loss to the Giants but if one must draw the comparison, Hillary may have been the better team before the game (NE) but she got her ass handed to her by a hungrier team that no one gave a shot in hell to win (NYG).

Yes, the Clinton's were called racist. Obama was called a sexist.

The Clinton's were counting on Obama being intimidated, just like the Pats were hoping. They were treated early on to the rude reality that they he was unbowed.

In that football game, when the pass interference wasn't called against Amani Toomer, I knew that the refs were going to give the Giants every possible advantage. Clinton supporters will point to her press coverage as the same thing. The mistake that NE made is that they allowed the Giants to hang around and win it at the end.

Hillary ignored way too many contests early in the game which created the hostile environment that she found herself unable to overcome.

After the Patriots lost, you didn't hear one player or coach, publicly complain about the game. They all credited the Giants for being the better team and the deserving champs. Rodney Harrison went so far as to write the forward in David Tyree's book.

I am convinced that had the Patriots won, we would have heard a lot from the Giants about how the Patriots got lucky or what have you but I think you can tell more by how people do after they lose than when they win.

The link to my blog just as the link to all the other trailmixer blogs are on the left hand side blogroll. Anyone who wants to read any of them can just click over there, or in my case my blue key

Speaking of which I just put up a new article

Krugman on oil speculation. He doesn't completely dismiss it as a possibility, but neither does he buy it as the reason oil prices are rising.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/27/opinion/27krugman.html?hp

Posted by: pogo | June 27, 2008 8:51 AM

According to Belgium's premiere financial newspaper, 90% of the price increases in gasoline has been the direct result of Americans speculating on oil.

Deja Vu

"Today I know “how” people voted for Richard Nixon in a historic landslide. Nobody really thought he was so great. The problem was they refused to vote for McGovern.

Really, as I look back in retrospect, George McGovern was a gentleman. Next to Barack Obama he was brilliant and honest. He had the experience and the service to his country to add to his resume. He actually had a real resume. His resume made Barack Obama look like a Playground Director. And he was a pleasant enough guy as well. He didn’t offend women at all either."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/20/deja-vu/

Michelle Obama saying that Barack would fight for gay equality.

Like he is fighting against the current FISA bill?

Nothing has changed, BHO is still everything we didn't like about him before the D party decided to throw HRC under the bus in favor of the enlighten one. He looks nice, nice looking family, speaks well as long as he has a teleprompter in-front of him, but he is so lacking in gravitas. You can't attack his record because it is so lacking of any meaningful substance. Zero experience in governing anything. BHO's Kansas ad is downright laughable.

pogo said this, "hd, I think you may be right about the more remote citizens having a stronger desire to keep the brown folks out. But my money says more than a few of them have no problem hiring the ones who came over, under around or through. Fence, my ass. People around here have pretty strong opinions about it, and most of our Mexican looking folks are in the 2 Mexican restaurants here - or are in a pickup truck that drives around and does lawn and other similar work on a pick up basis."

Pogo, I was not talking about remote citizens. I was subtly suggesting the folks in Washington are a long way from the border and basically have not a clue to the border issues.

sure there are gangs and drug dealers. I don't know if anyone has noticed that there are also gangs that are not Mexican. They also do work for a wage that no white person will do for twice that. People talk about driving down wages but seem to not understand market issues. There are some companies that simply cannot afford to pay more money. You can only charge what people are willing to pay.

I agree that Mexico has enormous problems economically and the US could probably do more to help. The border towns have been taken over by the drug cartels and the violence carries over to this side. I don't have any answers either.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

ET, interesting to see the difference in perspective on the two sides of the pond. It would take someone with credentials that would blow me away to convince me that Krugman's out to lunch on the issue. I figure the truth is somewhere between Krugman's take and the position of Belgium's financial newspaper's take.

Recently Unsealed Court Documents Reveal Obama Heavily Embroiled in Rezko Case

"Fitzgerald and the prosecutors are particularly concerned with Obama’s acceptance of “straw” campaign contributions others made on Rezko’s behalf. I quote the Sun-Times:

The Illinois senator was the recipient of “straw” campaign contributions made by others on behalf of Rezko — money that Obama has since given to charities.

“Witnesses will testify that Rezko was a long-standing supporter and fund-raiser of Barack Obama,” prosecutors wrote."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/27/recently-unsealed-documents-reveal-obama-deeply-embroiled-in-rezko-case/#more-3276

Mexico wouldn't have such a great economic problem if its oligarchy wasn't draining the majority of the wealth. Unfortunately, the U.S. is starting to copy this model with the majority of the wealth going to the top 1% while destroying the middle class and impoverishing the lower class even more rather than the other way around.

hd, I'd say that the citizens I referred to (sorry if I mistook your meaning) and the lawmakers in DC have more than less in common on the issue.

Here in Northern Ky, I've been describing our humidity is like: a wet blanket hitting you in the face as soon as you go outside, lol ... today's not too bad, only at 60% right now, but most days, ours is higher .. there's a slight breeze that was brought on from the T-Storm we had last night ..

Viv

As a nice dry heat Californian, Washington DC came as quite a shock the first summer I worked there. The first day of humidity, I staggered into work with the gasped announcement, "You people don't put any air in your air!"

viv, I drove through Northern KY/ Southern OH yesterday - actually I was in Covington the past 3 days, and nope, there wasn't much air in the air. I would have to say the few hundred feet difference in elevation between northern KY and western WV does make a difference, although I can't say it's pleasantly cool here, either.

flatus, that's desicable. Under whose administration did that offset arise, if you know?

" did listen to Warren Zevon this morning

EXCELLENT choice, Jack!

"If you want to draw a political parallel, Bush won by a whisker and governed like he won a Reagan mandate."

That's one more Bush similarity.....but I know what you mean.

Pogo, it's ancient--goes back to TR's or something like that.

One day last summer I remember that it felt like I was swimming to Speedway instead of just walking. Today is not quite there yet, but I think I prefer this to the drought we had the rest of the summer.

"ut she got her ass handed to her "

But Bear -- How is coming out even in the popular vote getting your ass handed to you????

Spent more time in the Great Smokies NP than in Pisgah.

Posted by: pogo | June 27, 2008 1:25 PM

===================

Ahhh the Great Smokies, love it there ... I went down to Gatlinburg the 2nd week of March w/my daughter .. Stayed at one of the many motels that are built over the beautiful brooks coming down the mountain .. every morning, took my coffee out on my balcony & watched the Duck family sunning themselves & bathing on the rocks in the middle or the squirrels running up & down the tress .. my balcon was only about 50 feet above .. loved it & can't wait to go back .. my sister & her hubby go down there at least 4 to 5 times a year .. even in the winter, there's things to do there ..

"Unfortunately, the U.S. is starting to copy this model with the majority of the wealth going to the top 1% while destroying the middle class and impoverishing the lower class even more rather than the other way around."

Very true, Jamie...

And for Dooty and Pogo: Have you heard this sort of thing from any Mexicans? I know several who say that the real gang problem -- the one that worries them -- is coming up from Central and South America. And that some of them (the Mexicans) feel especially threatened by them.

Craig, please forgive me for inserting an entire Kipling poem But it's important and is germane to the current political scene and should be required reading by all.

Here it is, chastise me if you must:

Tommy
Poem lyrics of Tommy by Rudyard Kipling.

I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.

We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind.

You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!

Viv, It's really hard to beat the Smokies for forested mountain beauty. Gatlinburg used to be a fairly quaint town (except for Ripley's), and it was always nice to drop in there for real food and a shower after a long weekend or more hiking along the Appalachian Trail. If you get back over that way, there are a slew of great places to go whether you want to walk or drive. When we were done hiking I was always pretty fond of driving over toward Cherokee, NC and stopping by the stream that parallels the road.

They were even called racist, by BHO supporters. This has to be a very bitter pill for HRC and Bill to swallow.

Posted by: FryDaddy | June 27, 2008 2:09 PM

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I was thinking the same thing, Fry Daddy ... I can't forgive or forget how they treated Hillary & Bill ... trashing Bill's 8 years in office, comparing him to Nixon, grrrrrf ...

I don't know if I can write in, in Kentucky .. need to look that up ... but I have a feeling we probably can't .. we DO have the electronic voting machines, but they DO have a Paper trail, thank God for that ...
viv

Patsi, since like I said, the only Mexican looking folks we have in any numbers around here are in the restaurants or in a pickup truck, working for a living, we don't have any gangs to talk about.

And flatus, I'd say it's about time to change that offset - how about you?

Sturg, you call that a waterfall? This is a waterfall:
http://www.2geton.net/martin/moonbow/moonbow.html
The only place in North America you can see a moonbow.
Posted by: jeejee | June 27, 2008 1:06 PM
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Oh WOW!! that's beautiful!!! Kentucky does have some wonderful sights to see ...

Of course it is Pogo, but I'm tired. I worked really hard on it for half a dozen years. Managed to get it for people with Purple Hearts, but not for the person who was run over by a tank. I've moved on, I'm sad to say.

Jamie:, LOL .. yep, that's our weather ... I'm just glad i talked Mom into putting A/C in the house back in '87 .. she's since then, has developed breathing problems, so it's been a life safer for her ...

Pogo:You were real close to me, I live in the East end of Newport, right next to Covington ... OHh,. before the storm last night, it was horrible .. i went out to get some glasses & needed a shower when i got home, lol

JeeJee: where are you in Ky? just curious ...

viv

viv, had I known you were that close I would have called. If I see I'm getting back that way - a distinct possibility - I will.

Patsi,

To answer your question, when someone is supposed to win overwhelmingly and then they lose by any margin, I think one could argue that their ass was handed to them. I base that when looks at the difference in what expected vs. where they ended up.

Corey...
so what you're saying is that Obama sees gay marriage as a states' rights issue....
hmmmm...... maybe he's really a secret Republican..... ;)

well it's weekend time gang..... gonna cha cha....

everybody have fun tonight...... everybody feng shui tonight....

Pogo,
that nice sounds really nice .. will look into it before I go next time ... yes, I can remember back when I first went to Gatlingburg with my famoly as a teen, wasn't built up as big, but what's really exploded to Pigeon Forge .. WOW .. it was only a 2 lane highway back then, lol .. now, it's terrible .. I don't even go there when I go down ...

I really needed that vacation & sitting there on that Balcony was so peaceful ... my family all told me I looked so much more relaxed when I came back ..
viv

Viv, I'm in SE KY, close to the WV/VA/OH borders.

O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,"

I remember it well, Flatus.....

Viv, you can thank Dolly for the Pigeon Forge explosion - and you are right - it is awful.

Cade's Cove is another wonderful part of the park if you haven't been there.

Pogo,
That would be nice .. just drop me a note if you do ...
amblush617@yahoo.com

!:^)
viv

"when someone is supposed to win overwhelmingly and then they lose by any margin"

Yes....but when this whole thing started, I -- and others -- seriously believed John Edwards was a BIG threat. I don't think the whole campaign ever thought she was a given. Maybe Mark Penn or some schmuck like that. But not anyone I ever talked to in the group.

RR I thought it was everybody Wang Chung tonite. LOL

Very nice, Craig. Very nice!

Jeejee,
Ok, I've not been over that way ... I've always wanted to travel the State again .. did that when my Dad was still alive, but he really didn't let us enjoy too much ... for some reason, it never wanted to stay in one area for longer than a day or two ... like, we camped at Carter Caves, but he wouldn't let us stay an extra day so we could see them .. We did go to Monmouth Caves though & they are soo Beautiful ..
viv

Pogo,

Yes, I know ... that's one of attraction that my sister enjoys .. me, don't like how it is now ..
NO, don't think I have ... will have to make a list of places you suggested for next time .. am hoping maybe this fall, if I can save enough money for it ...
viv

Well, all, gotta shuffle off to Buffalo, well, to Cleveland. Everyone have a good weekend.

Viv, after Mammoth Caves, Carter Caves would be a big disappointment. It's very small, cramped, & batty.

Beautiful waterfall, jeejee!

Patsi said this, "- the one that worries them -- is coming up from Central and South America."

That is what I have heard. A lot of the druggies are from Colombia or there abouts. I am sure there are Mexicans mixed in there also. There is so much money to be made in drugs that it is very tempting to join forces with the drug lords. Unfortunately they druggies are now on the southern border of the United States.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

"Flatus' military service to the country make him no more right on the issues than Granpa's military service does. "

For you to try and beat a vet over the head with the military is disgraceful, brine.

In your world, if he doesn't follow Obama to Guyana and drink the final cup of Kool Aid he's "wrong on the issues."

You sound more like a Bushbot EVERY day.

"Poor HRC. She must have been biting her lip today, having to utter those word and knowing deep down within her soul the inferior, the less qualified individual was ushered to the head of the line....Sitting there now looking at the incompetent one getting the promotion.."Posted by: FryDaddy
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/06/barack-and-hillarys-hollywood.html#comment-107974

Fry, I was thinking the exact same thing when I heard it. Another favorite member of the guys club, right there where they want him. As planned. Nothing ever really changes. But many people get comfort out of that fact.
...........................

In Unity, N.H., Clinton and Obama Set New Tone
Published: June 28, 2008

“No one likes to lose, but you know what? She’s moved on.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/28/us/politics/28unity.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1214599286-FsYdOiHm6PbXkB5z2fZjhg
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Harborwoman , years ago at the e-group I belong to many people there had their own websites. A lot of people used to post messages to alert the others that they had updated their website. People there started calling it "Site-Whoring". Basically trying to attract attention to your website. Not too many people were offended by it. Most people joked about it , including a lot of the ones who called out themselves for doing it.

A little Rockabilly for our friday night enjoyment

Charlie Ryan - Hot Rod Race
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOXT366XbRU

I have no problem with people mentioning their blogs here, Corey...which I think is what you're trying to say, too. I'm just a little offended by the hypocrisy of getting upset with one person for doing it, but not with others.

Have an appointment...will check back later....

Obama is having trouble with the democratic base in Ohio. He can't bring 25% of them home.

Jack

Rockabilly friday night
HOYT JOHNSON - EENIE MEENIE MINEE MO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwfsiYp30MA

I'm outta here! Off to a concert! Hope it doesn't rain!

Here's who I'm going to see tonight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TboFZCptbqU

"I have no problem with people mentioning their blogs here, "

I don't either. Like I said, my only problem was the motivations behind that one. And the fact that I was ordered to not respond to any "article" on that blog in this one....

As far as people having blogs -- I love reading a lot of posters' blogs.

Speaking of blogs, I gave eProf2 an award that he is now displaying on his site with recommendations of favorites of his. You might want to visit and congratulate him

http://eprof22.blogspot.com/

Renee, He mentions you. You need a regular blog so we can promote all your pretty weaving.

"And the fact that I was ordered to not respond to any "article" on that blog in this one...."
That I found funny.
Also his "15" contributers.
He doesn't even have 15 commenters.
But it is his first week I'm sure it will get better. The problem(and i'm sure Craig can tell him all about it) is the long grind. To keep peoples attention you need to post something everyday. Not everybody has that long attention span.

Jack

I am a real neophyte to the world of blogging and websites etc, but in my inexperienced opinion, why can't people mention another site or blog? We all sure mention everything else.

So there is a competition in the world of blogging to get and keep posters? Huh. I suspect it's a free market and will stay that way.

As for me, I'll stay here - there's enough difference of opinion here and a lot of interesting folk and education.
From what I could tell from my two dips into the Back Channel, it's not for me - angry and strident and bitterly sarcastic, but everyone there wants to be there, so I wish them well. Should any one try to force me there, well, that's a different story - I know how to deal with that.

To keep peoples attention you need to post something everyday. Posted by: whskyjack

Right. And Craig has CQ to attract people. I only found out about him from seeing him on MSNBC. We liked what he had to say, so I went looking for his column. I'm sure he gets people here that way too.

Bethboo,
Glad you're staying.
I really enjoy reading your blogs (usually from the one's you write late night, and I read everyones the next morning. You posters at night get pretty deep. Good stuff.

I like seeing Democrats treat Republicans the way Republicans have been treating Democrats.

http://www.eschatonblog.com/2008_06_22_archive.html#9054583982377544

"There is so much money to be made in drugs that it is very tempting to join forces with the drug lords. Unfortunately they druggies are now on the southern border of the United States. "

Yes, Dooty -- I think there's a huge disconnect between the families trying to get a strt here and that crowd moving in....the families feel threatened by them on several fronts.

On the issue of a border fence between the USA and Mexico, I agree with it and hope it remains. Too many criminals are crossing freely from Mexico into the USA. At the same time, I hope as much effort is invested in opening opportunities for Mexicans and other people to be allowed to enter the states as legal immigrants. Of course this could only happen after requisite background checks and employability. I would also consider family reunification a positive right for crossing into the USA to be with their loved ones!

It's my bedtime. My student worker is sick tomorrow so I am blessed with the opportunity to work 9.5 hours on my free day.

Good night to all my friends !

xoxoxoxoxo ET

Has anyone been to Drudge. They've got the picture of Hillary and Barack hugging, with 'YEAH, RIGHT' printed underneath it. Guess he doesn't believe all the hype either.

ET

Such are the joys of owning your own business. You lucky dog.

Jack

On the border fence: It was never needed in SoCal until we closed our borders to the temporary workers who used to go back and forth without incident. When that opportunity was denied, desperate people began rushing up the freeways (the beware of running people signs are still there), "we" built a fence and forced the immigrants out into the heat of the desert. A native Californian, the immigrants I'd like to see go back home are those who came here from other states.

On the GI Bill: The whole issue is political posturing. McCain offered to work with Webb and was rejected. The GOP bill explicitly provides for transferability of benefits. The Webb bill relies on prior practice of transferability. The Webb bill offers full benefits for everyone, the McCain bill offers graduated benefits depending upon length of service. A compromise could be reached if it weren't an election year.

On Unity: Am I the only one who thought that Hillary was more hopeful, more uplifting, and just plain easier to listen to? Am I the only woman who found Sen Obama's attempts to appeal to women voters oddly phrased? How does it help his daughters to know they can do anything that a woman once again has to take the back seat? And what was all that condescending stuff about "doing it in heels?" Hillary is not Ginger Rogers.

By the way -- did anyone see the Hearing yesterday with Addison and Yoo? Good stuff. Rep Conyers was really, really ticked off at Addington ... the most arrogant man I think I have ever seen appear before a Committee of Congress. Poor old John Yoo appeared to be quaking in his boots.
Last week, Col Wilkinson, former aide to Colin Powell, stated his opinion before the Senate Committee that Yoo and Addington were two of six people who should be at pains not to leave the US, in case they be picked up as international criminals.

On Unity: Am I the only one who thought that Hillary was more hopeful, more uplifting, and just plain easier to listen to?
maggisd

maggi,
Thank you for saying all of that. You are not alone, i can assure you. It was tough to watch.

chloe: I had seriously thought of not watching it -- but then I felt I have always prided myself on my willingless to at least listen to every point of view. The way I viewed the crowd, a lot of mature women had stationed themselves right up front so they could shake Hillary's hand and say a few words to her.

Yesterday in the Senate she had quite a crowd around her...talking quite animatedly to Sen Casey among others. And something Patsi would enjoy ... Sen McCaskill sort of hanging just outside the knot of people, perhaps hoping someone would say something to her.

And something Patsi would enjoy ... Sen McCaskill sort of hanging just outside the knot of people, perhaps hoping someone would say something to her. maggisd

I would have enjoyed that too. Unfortunately I haven't caught much of anything lately, having boycotted most TV stations. I guess it's time for me to start checking it out again.

Maggi,
I also agree with what you said about border control. I don't know nearly as much about it as you do, but like I said before, I used to live in California too - until '92. It sounds like they've botched things up more and more with everything they do.

"On the issue of a border fence between the USA and Mexico, I agree with it and hope it remains."

As I told my son, who actually deals with this and similar issues in his position, "Show me a fence twenty feet high and I'll show you a guy with a twenty-one foot ladder.

(The line wasn't original with me....)

"Sen McCaskill sort of hanging just outside the knot of people, perhaps hoping someone would say something to her."

Couldn't happen to a more deserving person. : ) She may be a perfectly nice woman, but she has been irritating me no end for months now. She either has the worst teeth or the best smirk in the world.

chloe: C-Span is almost always informative, although occasionally it can be mind-numbingly boring. I consider it important viewing ... one can begin to see how much of what goes on is just political posturing, people talking past each other. And one can really learn a lot at some of the hearings.
One of the reasons I kind of like the idea of divided government is that when the President is one party and the Congress another, we have hearings and get to the bottom of things...when both are the same Party, not so much.

"On the issue of a border fence between the USA and Mexico, I agree with it and hope it remains."

As I told my son, who actually deals with this and similar issues in his position, "Show me a fence twenty feet high and I'll show you a guy with a twenty-one foot ladder."

(The line wasn't original with me....)

I love the ideas and opinions here and feel comfortable that if I get too esoteric or ridiculous,

Bethyboo,
That's what I like about your posts. You don't seem to hold anything back. Like the time you talked about your family trip to the cabin, and described the book store and everything else so well. It made me want to go there. Keep it up. I enjoy reading everyones in the mornings.

Maggis

Senator McCaskill has put herself in a rough spot. She has isolated herself from her natural allies the Blue dogs and she can not become a whole hearted liberal wing member because she needs to keep her seat. That makes her a little lonely freshman. In the senate that is just sad, and dangerous for your political career.

Jack

Jack

chloe: C-Span is almost always informative maggisd

maggi, I'll restart my viewing with C-Span. A good starting point. I plan to vote for McCain and Democrat down the rest of the ticket. It'll be the first time I ever voted for a Republican, but I feel more comfortable with him. I heard him briefly, on the radio the other day, doing his town hall. He said he'd always put his country ahead of his party. I really liked hearing that. After all I've seen in this election.

Jack, McCaskill made that choice.

"I have an advantage in being a real nobody, but that doesn't minimize what was done to you."

Well, ditto for me, Bethy....just having your name on a few books doesn't make you a somebody. In fact, as the old line my grandma used to repeat says, "Fools names and fools faces, often found in public places!"

I can't imagine Dobson hurting anybody with criticisms. He's the fool who bragged in his book about beating up his dog, fer Chrissakes....

Hi all...just checking in.

Patsi, speaking of funny old sayings...my Dad used to go through a four-item checklist aloud to ensure he had all the items he might need before leaving the house.

"Spectacles
Testicles
Wallet
Cigar"

I think he picked it up in the Army in WWII.

Jack: I note with some curiosity that McCaskill votes the party line quite a bit more than Mary Landrieu. Perhaps she feels that the endorsement of Sen Obama will gain her sufficient votes in Kansas City and St Louis that she won't have to worry about the red part of the state. Hard to say. I will note that I have found her questioning in committee less than stellar on many occasions and as yet know of no legislation she has worked on. Quite unlike the way the party pushed Sen Stabenow to the forefront the minute she arrived, or the way Hillary gained allies and learned the issues.

Chloe: That is the voting choice I am making as well. As you have stated, I feel comfortable with Sen McCain, even though I disagree with him on many current issues. And, I believe from his past performance that he will know how to compromise and work with the Congress.

Here's an article about parasites etc being on the rise among poor in the South.

http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN24359949

This country staggers along toward Third World status.

Maggi,
The important word there is compromise. I think he is realistic and will do just that when necessary. At least he has a long record and has been around long enough for us to know everything about him.

Of course, I don't agree with him on the war. But now Obama is saying he will do what the Generals recommend also. So, who knows?

Lard: That funny old saying of your Dad's is the punch line to an old joke on the Borscht belt circuit. It begins when someone sees an elderly Rabbi making the sign of the cross... and follows from there. In the original version, the last two words are wallet, watch -- so the joke is at least as old as a time when most men carried pocket watches.

chloe: I am very torn on the issue of the war. I opposed it bitterly, from the beginning as wholly and totally wrong in a way we had not been wrong since the invasion of the Philippines. Even if there had been WMDs, it was wrong to invade.
But, having invaded, I feel that a precipitate withdrawal would be equally wrong.
I cannot help but feeling that if our President had been anyone else at all, the invasion of Iraq never would have happened.

"Spectacles
Testicles
Wallet
Cigar"

Hilarious, Lard....

Oh Lardo,

That is the punchline to the old joke about the man who made the sign of the cross every time he left the local prostitute:

Specticles
Testicles
Wallet
Watch

Rockabilly fridaynight

Stray Cats - Rockabilly Rules

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2IP6Q23WUk

Maggs...that's great. Thanks for the background info.
And yes, I forgot to include the funniest detail of the routine: The checklist is accompanied by each of the four points on the sign of the cross.

My dad was a really funny guy. He was always goofin' like that. Even after he was in the last stages of Alzheimer's the inner jokester was always there.

A random thought on the event at Unity, NH.
If I were advising Sen Obama, I would suggest that he might not want to do too many more events with Sen Clinton as his opening act ... rather than winning over Hillary voters, it might just make more of them realize what the country has lost.

I wonder now why my Dad substituted "cigar" for "watch"?

Kinda Freudian.

Actually, Jamie, now that you give me the context of ending a visit to the local prostitute, the absolute functionality of that checklist becomes evident.

Dad never told us that part either.

Patsi,
Just scanned that article you just linked. There's been others signs of things here starting to fall apart too. All the faulty imports from China, including that bad pet food a while back. The produce at our markets has been looking really bad (even though it's gone way up in price). There were those salmonella tomatoes a week or two ago. Walmart grocery here is running out of all kinds of stuff, and carrying less variety of brands. I guess the stores are getting fewer shipments because of gas prices.

I actually joked to my husband last week, this is starting to look like a third world country. I've never seen anything like it. And don't see any signs of improvement.

I see Maggie beat me to it.

BTW, I'm coming around to voting for Sen. Obama rather than a blank or 3rd party (can't vote McCain). A great deal will depend on the VP appointment as that will be a measure of his judgement for me.

Maggi,
LOL.
You never want the opening act to outshine the headline act.

Lard: An interesting thing about Alzheimer's is that side effect ... the inner core of the victim is the very last thing to go. My aunt, right up until the end would come alive when we sang her the old songs and told her stories from the old neighborhood (which none of us had ever even seen...just stories we had heard when we were young). She was a dear, kind person and that essential sweetness of disposition endured.

Even in the throes of dementia, he'd be sitting there watching TV and independently start riffing and punning about going to "See Alice" during Cialis commercials, or how you needed someone to "Watch Ovah Ya" during Wachovia commercials.

Chloe, that may not be the war that Obama knew.
Posted by: Nick |

Hey Nick.

Maggs...that "inner core" theory can be scary too. As I learned more about the disease via my Dad's decline, I heard countless stories of the gentlest, mildest-mannered men who would suddently become angry and abusive toward their wives.
Was that inner core always there, but hidden behind a mask, one wondered?

Jamie: Sorry 'bout that. It's my one big talent ... I type really fast.
I agree with your sentiment about VP selections. The pundits always say that people don't vote for the VP, but I think more people might be paying attention to the second position this time around.

I am new to your blog as you all know. Now after finally getting on and kind of getting to know all of your interesting personalities I am hearing I should be on face page. what is that all about and how is it different.? Does Craig favor it over this site. Maybe he will let me know. Thanks

Fascinating stuff about alzheimers....

My dad died of kidney disease which leaves you in and out of reality at the end. A few days before he died, Mom wheeled him out of the nursing home and he glanced over and asked, "Liz, is that our car?"

She said yes it was, surprised he was so lucid. And he looked up, grinned and winked and said, "Let's make a run for it."

Lard: I don't know much about it...but isn't that what they say about people who drink? That their true nature comes out? It may be a similar phenomenon.

Hi Jane,
I pretty new too.
I don't know much about facebook, but I have the link to check it out.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=17347137146

Damn, Patsi. That story just makes me think of more great stories about my Daddy-O, and I'm getting ready to start tearing up.

Not sure why this train of thought hit me all of a sudden now. Wasn't Father's Day last Sunday? Or was it the Sunday before?

That's what you get when you start thinking about "funny old sayings."

Patsi: What a sad sweet story. Thank you for sharing it. Sounds as if your Dad was a man with a great attitude.

Lard,
And I don't think that cigar thing was Freudian.
I think he was just adding the important thing to the list.

Now I know where you get your good sense of humor from.

Jane,
I do know Craig said facebook was just an addition to this site for those who want to share more personal things. Not to take the place of this blog, but in addition to. Glad to see you here.

Jane

This is Craig's political place and corresponds to the articles he writes for Congressional Quarterly and his tv appearances. As such the conversations here tend to be political (except when trading recipes, music, and general gossip).

In order to have a place that didn't get quite so heated, he established a MySpace page where people could be more personal and less political. Most of us now are in both places, but still gravitate here for the political discussions.

Mom died just 10 months after he did. She had been suffering for five years with multiple myeloma -- which is a horribly debilitating bone-marrow cancer. All of us kids surrounded her as she went, in her own apartment.

The strangest thing I remember: The absolute first thing the hospice worker did once Mom was pronounced dead -- I mean the very second she was pronounced dead -- was to gather up, crush and flush every single painkilling medication in the apartment. And trust me, there were TONS of them...fentanyl patches, oxycodone pills, the works. Would have had a street value in the tens of thousands.

I love hospice workers. They are angels on this Earth.

Must have been hard on you to lose both parents within 10 months. Sorry to hear that.

And not just hospice workers...nurses, caregivers of all stripes. Absolute angels.

And not just hospice workers...nurses, caregivers of all stripes. Absolute angels.

No doubt about it Lard. They're unbelievable.

Time to go and put the swollen feet up for a while. Once again enjoyed the conversation...and I do so love the personal stories.

Jane

Craig just started the facebook site. It is still tying to find itself. It may go eventually.
If you do sign up I would be careful about using your real name. I signed up with a yahoo account under a fictious name and signed up under it. They say they want you to use your real name but what they want and what they get is 2 different things. There are crazys out there and they get facebook acounts too.

Jack, just being his paranoid self

Oh and I forgot Welcome

Jack, I think that's good advice.

Fridaynight Rockabilly

Jerry Lee Lewis & Carl Perkins - Mean Woman Blues/Blue Suede

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz1Y1ekHhF8

"Now I know where you get your good sense of humor from."

I agree, Lard....you must have that edgy humor in your DNA!

It's in his funny bone

Friday night Rockabilly

summertime blues

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbRO0wnnVtY

what year was that? the summer time blues?

1958...just found it....

I haven't read her email yet....but I am sure it is awesome....

Guilt is hell on earth, so If I don't believe in Hell in the after life, then I better watch out for it here. (in the form of guilt)

I like this site, as Renee said more meat. but it has a nice combination that makes for an enjoyable evening most days. Even though I often get pissed and blowup.
I wandered in from use net so I'm used to a very freewheeling conversation where little stays on topic

I don't expect others to feel the same.
Chacun son goût

Jack

Fridaynight Rockabilly

Stray Cats - Rock This Town

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxrkOJ2WnGw

On the issue of a border fence between the USA and Mexico, I agree with it and hope it remains. Too many criminals are crossing freely from Mexico into the USA
ET...
================

I agree, we NEED a fence all the way across ... as far as guest worker programs .. Lou Dobbs reports on this every night almost .. I believe he said there are 10 guest worker programs. 10!! every year we welcome LEGALLY, over 10 Million LEGAL Aliens ...
I, for one, do not think we should do anymore ..
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2008/06/26/ldt.wian.ice.raid.outrage.cnn

Everyone acts like Mexico is a poor country, they 're not ... They have alot of wealth ... Their government actually "encourges" their people to come to America .. they print up maps of the easies way to get here & who to contact for work, living arrangement, etc ...

Here's some more articles from Lou Dobbs on the subject :
http://loudobbs.tv.cnn.com/category/broken-borders/

Have tey made a mess of all of this, YES, I agree ... Bush & his cronies DO NOT want the order completely secure .. then all the companies who employ them would have to pay a living wage .. oh, they won't make as much money then, heaven forbid!!!

I think the thought was:

Trail Mix = mostly political...

Face book = anything else.....and everything else, like a change of pace, showing that we (as people) are more complex then just our political beliefs and biases.

FB like a mini microcosm of foreign affairs, different beliefs shared in a safe venue,which allows us to learn about different views to find the common ground that works toward peace.

Totalitarian Tactics and an Illegitimate Nominee

"As Anglachel writes, there are several million of us who feel that Obama’s nomination is illegitimate, that his tactics are counter to our values as progressives, and that he is not the unity figure he claims to be. Indeed, Obama wears two masks: at one moment he gives high-minded speeches, at the next he is accusing Bill Clinton, a beloved former president, of racism.

As progressives, we are repulsed by the totalitarian nature of Obama’s candidacy — creating a cult of personality, the venom espoused by his adherents, the delegate stealing — tactics that are repugnant to the many who have spent a lifetime working for democracy and social justice."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/27/totalitarian-tactics-and-an-illegitimate-nominee/

Carlin's last HBO special on in four minutes

I've cut back almost all of the facebook applications. This is mainly due to the flood of spam that I'm just starting to get out from under (do yourself a favor and use a yahoo address)

I've deleted everything except the two games I play so if you don't get a response from me on a message there, that is why. Just use my normal email address or comment on my blog. Thanks.

I can't imagine Dobson hurting anybody with criticisms. He's the fool who bragged in his book about beating up his dog, fer Chrissakes....

Posted by: Patsi

Really?? That's horrible! Can I have some context? (Not that we usually need it with Dobson...)

"Hillary rocks"

Already parroting The Master.

Utopia -- Dobson wrote a book about "the strong willed child"...in it he equated teaching his little dog a lesson about beling "strong willed...here's part of it:

""When I told Sigmund to leave his warm seat and go to bed, he flattened his ears and slowly turned his head toward me. He deliberately braced himself by placing one paw on the edge of the furry lid, then hunched his shoulders, raised his lips to reveal the molars on both sides, and uttered his most threatening growl. That was Siggie's way of saying. "Get lost!"

"I had seen this defiant mood before, and knew there was only one way to deal with it. The ONLY way to make Siggie obey is to threaten him with destruction. Nothing else works. I turned and went to my closet and got a small belt to help me "reason" with Mr. Freud."

"What developed next is impossible to describe. That tiny dog and I had the most vicious fight ever staged between man and beast. I fought him up one wall and down the other, with both of us scratching and clawing and growling and swinging the belt. I am embarrassed by the memory of the entire scene. Inch by inch I moved him toward the family room and his bed. As a final desperate maneuver, Siggie backed into the corner for one last snarling stand. I eventually got him to bed, only because I outweighed him 200 to 12!"

May I turn into a bitch long enough to say that should I ever meet Mr. Dobson in a bar, I really WOULD beat the crap out of him....

PS, Utopia, Siggie is a Dachshund.

I've heard that map story other places than Dobbs. And I don't doubt it. Makes sense coming from such a corrupt government.

Patsi
Sounds like a mean animal. If I had to live with Dobson I would probably be mean to.

Just got off the phone with my wife. She is in Omaha today finishing up a bid proposal. They got hit with some very severe thunderstorms and winds up to 90 mph. She was busy and was ignoring the tornado siren until the floor started shaking. lol

I guess it is a mess up there no tornado just straight wind. She had to hang up so she could carry her rollie bag. there was too much limbs and debri in the parking lot to pull it. I hope she has a place to stay to night.

Jack

Patsi: That's simply abominable! Poor dog!

Patsi
A really corrupt government would sell them a cheap compass for 4X the cost and point the way north.;-0

Jack

I really feel bad for these Mexicans, who risks their lives to help their families. When I lived in Dallas, is was common knowledge that Mexicans were transported across the border to build homes. That was at least 11 years ago...no one blink an eye....it was business as usual.

I think sometimes we forget about the real human side of the issue.

all governments are corrupt .

Tony - hope never dies

"They got hit with some very severe thunderstorms and winds up to 90 mph. She was busy and was ignoring the tornado siren until the floor started shaking. lol"

Jack -- how many times do I remember shrugging off the tornado warnings? Lord!

Oh U B
Your right it doesn't.It has been a difficult time for me this time around.Leaving the Democratic Party and all.I have always supported the Democrat win or lose mostly lose.I have seen so much because of the net,sometimes I wonder if its better to just remain basically media and net free?? I can't do it though because Knowledge is Power........I gave 25 bucks myself today to the Democrats for Congress.......So Hope is Alive.

Tony ,
I appreciate the way you feel, believe me.

But your feeling for what happened yesterday mean nothing today...that sound harsh? doesn't it?

I like to think of it like a running river.....second to second...it is never the same...and at one moment....that is it....then it is over.

Apply that to life or whatever....and your outlook becomes more fluid.

very interesting post, on the bc

Fridaynight Rockabilly
Janis Martin - Ooby Dooby
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jks9sReUK4U

This music is from when I was just an idea, a glimmer...I wonder if my folks listened to this? Growing up I only heard about the Big Bands.

Good for her, you know it takes an effort when you have children to actually do something like that. I am glad she did, because now I can have a real snapshot of what happened.

UB

Gene Vincent is the one I remember from that time period

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qf0rd1Y7po&feature=related

Friday night Rockabilly
Johnny Burnette : Rock Billy Boogie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaX5960iRyQ

UB

I was probably part of that transition period being on the leading edge of the Boomers and living in a very musical household. There was a lot of big band and then 50s bland with lots of mellow stuff, show tunes, and "Your Hit Parade", and then early rock and finally ELVIS and everything changed!!!

The kids would listen to Make Believe Ballroom on their radios that was very vanilla with White covers of black music and then sneak over to the black stations when no one was paying attention to hear the real thing. It was quite a musical stew.

Oh geez Jamie...I remember hearing that...I must have been like really young? I don't know....But at least maybe my parents were playing something current....lol

The King

That's Alright, Mama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPBRu210aKU

Jack

I was three when this song was a hit. I loved it. Obviously someone was corrupting me for life. : )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZHAhBsVGcs

Yes, I can recall my parents saying....come here "they" are on! They meaning either the Beatles or Elvis

When I was about 13, some guys Mother made us all leave the basement to hear Richard Nixon resign...it was a classic...but all we wanted to do was party in the basement.

From the Sun recordings and then the first RCA album

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZwB54YZivE

"But your feeling for what happened yesterday mean nothing today...that sound harsh? doesn't it?

I like to think of it like a running river.....second to second...it is never the same...and at one moment....that is it....then it is over.

Apply that to life or whatever....and your outlook becomes more fluid."

Burrito....I'm interested in this thought. I'm not sure what you mean....about a fluid outlook where what happened before doesn't matter....

If you listened to country in the late forties

MOON MULLICAN - PIPELINER BLUES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ouW5-LHzdY

What happened before you can not change......it no longer really exists...

It is not to say it does not matter, but it no longer exists.....that in my mind falls into the category of learn from history, but do not hold on to a past to spite your future.

That's about right UB. You can't change it. Learn from it, don't get stuck in it.

Yeah I am taking this memory drug now, experimental ...it will be marketed as the "tie dye pill" ..... it helps everyone to look back and see how much fun they used to have!

Then it makes you look at yourself......at that point in time, you will need a counselor......to tell you it's okay to feel the way you feel.

What's with this "used to have". My tie dye pill is a permanent renewable prescription.

laugh with me....because the humans are dead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1BdQcJ2ZYY

Then there is Torchwood set in the future unless it happens to get back to the past

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7Q3zBLgqsI

I love tie-dye pills.....I have never seen one....but I am sure I could sell them and make a tidy profit.

Sorry. You have to manufacture your own. It's a very specialized medication ... genetically modified to each individual.

Frank Sinatra - Anything Goes (1956

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiZS04ysr3I

The nice thing about Cole Porter. He seems to fit any era.

bethyboo

Watching them today, I had trouble imagining another someone there beside him. I suppose he could pick someone else, but would they look as natural? I think it almost has to be one of the other contenders or it looks as if he is settling for something less than the best: Biden? Edwards?

If she goes totally to the background then do you have a "power behind the throne" .. that seems a little wonky ... go back to the Senate honey you've done enough.

On the cabinet. Good idea,

All sorts of possibilities, but I still think the "Dream Ticket" is the best star power option.

It's just not that hard at this point:

to simplify :

John McCain vs. Barack Obama

pick a side or sit on a fence.....anything else is virtually meaningless.

Yep. I'm still on the fence but about to fall on the Obama side as being in the best interest of the country even if still having major qualms.

Just in case anyone is feeling a little lost tonight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcTHBOjnUss&feature=rec-fresh

Jamie,
From what little I know of you - I know you can't possibly support McCain...so guess what???? there is only one other choice......

That is the long and short of it, no matter what other BS falls from the sky.....It's Barack Obama vs, John McCain.

Simply put...? ...... Yes we can!

Bill is only a problem to the media. He gives them something to talk about, most of it false. If he's there, "Why is he there?". If he's not there, "Why isn't he ther?".

He would be just fine as either charity or political ambassador. He was the President for criminitly sake. He knows how to do the job and he probably would argue less than anyone else the prospective resident could send.

How much farther could he have gone not to step on their toes today? It was the media that had to say he was singing happy birthday to Mandela. Nobody else was paying atttention.

Bill is awesome in person. Seriously, he looks like he is still the president.

for an older guy .....woof!

UB

I never had any intention of voting for McCain. You can't do a write in in Washington so I couldn't do a protest with Hillary. I was considering a Green party vote with Dem the rest of the way down. NOW?

Time for Dr. Who and a long way to November.

I am in the dis-functional state of Ohio....no write- in(s) here either.

So either I sit out which will not help anyone, or I vote. I will vote.

Bill was a great president; it was great to have a Democrat at 1600 after that miserable Reagan. When Reagan was President I wrote critical letters to the local paper almost every day...every now and then they'd publish one.
Our union sent a large group of us to South Bend for a rally just before Bill got elected. That was the night Evan Bayh called me and two others of our group up onto the stage to chant "FOUR MORE DAYS!!"...as Bush 41 was to be beaten in four days in the general election. We had that hall absolutely rockin' !
Fast forward 8 years from that time, and Bill had left the country with a surplus ... nobody thought that could be done, but Bill did it.
Bush has goddam-nearly destroyed the country and any goodwill we had before he took office.
I have family who are big-time Democrat organizers and will undoubtedly be flying in for Obama's inauguration.
It will be the greatest day in Washington since Bill and Hillary moved into the White House.
Our long national nightmare is almost over, as someone once said. (haha!)

The concert rocked tonight! The only downer was the threat of a major thunderstorm. The concert was held outside , so we were told to return to our cars until it was safe. Dierks Bentley closed the show with "Folsum Prison Blues". Luke Bryant was good too! Cool Stuff! I

I think Bill is mis-understood....nothing more or less.

I believe basically he is a good person and wants our country to repair.

But can you imagine being president.....then being absolutely nothing? Bill needs a little ego repair, so that he can show the best of himself...I know it is in him!

I believe he will get there before our eyes.

ciao... everyone

it's not too late to take a look around.

I don't think that Bill Clinton's problem is that he was bored or ignored. He's been a busy guy since he left office. I agree that it's the media that has decided to destroy him.

Jamie -- I also think your decision -- whatever it is -- about voting will be the right one. Can't remember what state you are in....your vote might make a difference.

Patsi

I'm in Washington. If it was any bluer it would be purple. What I do might matter down ballot but will have little to nothing to do with the Presidential election.

The only power I have is with my email list and those who say "what do I do", but they all know I'll say when in doubt go Dem and everyone hates Bush which makes it easy.

Now, as to this fluidity of history idea.....as an old history major, it's interesting. And depending how it's interpreted and implemented, possibly one of the most dangerous concepts around.

I take your point about not getting stuck in a point in time, but I'd be concerned with it taken to its conclusion. It could, given a certain governmental "leadership" and public temperment, authorize damn near anything. Rivers keep moving, but they can leave much in their wake.

PS-- what in the world are "tie dye pills"?

No music at all from the man who never offers anything of interest mediocre or otherwise.

The Beatles with "Good Night"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnH19yT-bE4

Jamie -- Definitely, the down ticket will be important. On the other hand, my Democratic congressman might as well be a Republican. And TN will go red now anyway.

I did promise my son that if the polls showed a close race -- which is not likely here -- I'd vote for the selected Democratic nominee.

A comment I've just posted on CNN.com... who knows if it will appear?

I am a STRONG Hillary Clinton supporter and it was evident to me that the mainstream media and the powers that be at the DNC were working hard to build up Mr. Obama and tear down Mrs. Clinton. I was also one of her supporters that was refusing to switch to Mr. Obama. However, the stakes are too high to let our anger and disappointment play out in such a way that Mr. McCain becomes President. If you feel Mr. McCain really represents our democratic values, then by all means vote for him. If it is a vote out of spite and anger, then doing such a “protest” vote will only continue the “excellent” stewardship of the Republicans for another 4 years. If that’s what you want, go for it. Just remember it is your own futures that are at stake.

Mr. Obama please choose Mrs. Clinton as your running mate. Build the ultimate DREAM TEAM!

Obama/Clinton 2008

Fascinating stuff about alzheimers....

My dad died of kidney disease which leaves you in and out of reality at the end. A few days before he died, Mom wheeled him out of the nursing home and he glanced over and asked, "Liz, is that our car?"

She said yes it was, surprised he was so lucid. And he looked up, grinned and winked and said, "Let's make a run for it."

Posted by: Patsi | June 27, 2008 7:20 PM

That is so sweet and tender. I think it's so nice that your mother had that moment and realized her husband was still there! WOW.

No I did not say that immigrants were a major source of crime. I did say that drug dealers and gangs were among the people who immigrated.

I did say that I watched one show where the map of the Mexican government was described and I said that it was presented as a way to stay safe in the desert.

What is your problem with understanding what is written as opposed to what you want to see?

No dipshit, that's not what Jamie said. She was referring to specific groups coming into the country, not immigrants in general. And to the fact that, in fact, some of them represent drug and gang activities. As I said earlier, people I know among the Mexican community are as concerned, and in some cases more concerned, than anyone.

Good morning all !!!

It's a work day for me... my worker is sick and I am bummed. But c'est la vie ! I might just close early!

And to you night owls, have a nice sleep!

bye!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzSMvFP6mdg&feature=related

Folks Bill knows how this will all end. He made sure Hillary Soprano lost to Obama. "Bills monsters of the ID" did a very good job. Now he wants his money back. Obama wrote the first check, and his Rich Elite followers we get out their Louis Vuitton check books and do the same.

After all the checks have cleared and their is no debit. "Bills monsters of the ID" will do what every it takes to make sure Obama loses to McCain.

You see Bill still wants to be TOP DOG.

VJ Machiavelli
www.vjmachiavelli.blogspot.com

Craig,
I just wanted to add to the other reviews, that your video was a two thumbs up.

The subtext of your short film seems to be that the Obama-Hiillary
unity rally was a well-directed show. That's exactly what I thought
while watching it. Hillary must play the dutiful Obama supporter
now, if she's to have any political career in the Democratic party or
pay off even part of her campaign debt.
I didn't get a warm or excited feeling from either of their performances,
today. I doubt this pilot will be picked up as a series.

Thanks to all of you for the welcome and also for helping me understand this facepage. I think I will just stick with this for now. You all certainly provide a good diversity of political opinions and I love the "other" stuff also. Regarding Bill Clinton--I love him! He is just so human like when he gets hurt and angry. I can relate. I mean being called a racist when you opened the door to African Americans has to be hard to take.

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