Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

all right!

Obama will bounce McInsain one-bounce into history's dust bin.

abstractly politics is the most peculiar of all businesses

okay, night all, peace~

Cute TM again.

tt

OBAMA'S STRANGE BEDFELLOWS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNfRb87dtY4

I just watched The View. If Mark Mckinnon were Obamas media person ,as he was Bushes, he would have threw a fit. Twenty wasted minutes. One good story about her daughter. Thats it. Dont they practice these things, They had one super friendly on the panel . Shouldnt they have set her up with a couple of good questions. It doesnt make sense. Just on media image who would you want to sit next to on a airplane flight Michelle Obama or Cindy McCain?

I'm figuring if things work out right I'll never sit on a plane again next to ANYone...........

Greetings from the desert:

Craig, don't go too crazy following the bouncing ball and the bouncing polls between now and November. Like I've said, the national polls don't mean a great deal as it's the state polls, especially in the so-called swing states, that are worth watching. Newsweek says at least one reliable pollster says the electoral college would end up in a tie, 269-269, if the election were held today. I don't quite buy that but I'm not a professional pollster, only a polling consumer for the past forty years or so. My understanding of the data is that Obama will win, 290-252. But, it could be closer depending on events between now and November. Have a great day everyone.

Craig,

Do you expect the reporting out of NBC to be different, i.e. more slanted one way or another, now that Russert is gone? After all wasn't he the Washington bureau chief ?

Clinton (McCain) Supporter Threatened

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek-idgd8JJg

Rez.......I'm thinking there's going to be an epic power struggle within NBC news.........

i mean like epic in the way who to how to best please general electric.........

Jimmie roges getting more women than a passenger train can haul............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEIBmGZxAhg&feature=rec-fresh

As far as Obama's good favorability rating - we learned months ago that the less people know about a candidate, the higher his/her favorability rating. Thus, Obama's high favorability rating - we know tragically little about this out-of-his-league candidate.

we know he's the demo nominee i reckon..............

Well, this is a surprise! I'm usually the tag end, and here I am number 10 (?)

Unlikely - I answered your last question on the last page if you're interested. Thanks for engaging in the conversation - it was food for thought. I would never want to hurt this country - that's the problem.

Sturgeone - is that a random thought or was there a path to it? I quite agree with you,btw. With the airlines tanking, tho, I may never be in an airplane again.

Someone requested names of good historical books, and aside from the ones you all have mentioned, all I can come up with is one I loved from a Russian history
class, 'Why Lenin?Why Stalin? by Theodore Von Laue.
It's not a big book but fascinating. The czar and czarina are not my favorite characters in history.

In fiction, I love Kenneth Roberts. Another author is pretty arcane - the other Winston Churchill, an American ca. 1900. He wrote 'The Crossing ' and
'Richard Carvel' and 'Janice Meredith' about the revolution, and 'The Crisis' about the Civil War, which I have never read because I hate that war. It's pretty old-fashioned and flowery, but I love them. Aside from the Civil War one, I've read them all quite a few times.

Speaking of reading books more than once, is it possible anyone here has read the Francis Lymond Series by Dorothy Dunnett which begins with "Game of Kings"?

Here it is, at last:

THE REAL REASON FOR THE WAR IN IRAQ!

"Big Oil Firms Ready to Sign Agreements With Iraq
Two-Year, No-Bid Contracts Aimed at Boosting Production"

http://patterns2.blogspot.com/

tt

path........have not enplaned since 77 .....

If god had meant for pickles to dance he'da given 'em tap shoes.....

---Danny "Ruester" Rowland.

I just came across The Map.

Has RAN been around?

tt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI

My God Craig is that your house? It's beautiful and HUGE !!!!

Corey I think Rick Astley is great !! I bought a recent CD of his... it's very bluesy and soul ..

The Ones You Love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxSXKCL4LaE

WHAT HAVE I BEEN THINKING??????

Or what was I thinking???????

Books to read?

MSM keeps saying, Oh if Teddy White were alive today - what would he have made of this?

They have not mentioned reading - because of course their reading stops at the current best sellers - his best and most inclisive, 'In Search of History'.

It may not have the imprimatur of the Durants or Churchill or Manchester, etc., but I strongly recommend it for anyone who would like an overall view of the world since... well, for most of the 20th century. I would warn your about the chapter about the jfk assassination, which I couldn't get through.

In the same vein, I would say read Edgar Snow's
'Red Star Over China".

Additionally in the fiction vein, " The Dream of the Red Chamber', altho I have have not had success in finding the full translation.

Happy books to you.

Good morning,

Today is the day for Scott McClellan to testify before the Judiciary committee. Morning news says they will focus on VP Cheney role in Valerie Plame identity case.

Jack, miss your thoughts and music

bethyboo, some of White's essays were really fun, too. He wrote one talking about his wife, a "Bryn Mawr woman". Anyone who knows a woman so afflicted will understand.

Watched Joe unload on Mr Obama this morning regarding his 180 on campaign financing. They played Mr Obama's announcement reneging on last year's promise.

He did the 'Nixon blink' every time he came to a point of gross obfuscation. He never once made eye contact with the camera.

"It sounds crazy at first. Amid dire reports about the toxic political environment for Republican candidates and the challenges facing John McCain, many top GOP strategists believe he can defeat Barack Obama — and by a margin exceeding President Bush’s Electoral College victory in 2004."
http://dyn.politico.com/members/forums/thread.cfm?catid=1&subcatid=2&threadid=795810

Heard on CNN this morning that Obama was bullying emailers, but didn't catch the story. So did a search (obama campaign bullying emails) Scary endless list. This was first. Didn't realize how long ago this 'take over' started.

Obama takes MySpace page from backer
updated 12:11 p.m. CT, Thurs., May. 3, 2007
WASHINGTON - Is MySpace always mine or can it belong to someone else? At the cost of losing 160,000 friends, Democrat Barack Obama's presidential campaign has taken over control of the MySpace page listed under his name on the popular social networking site.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18466315/from/RS.3/

Craig, Good to see your sporting and ball handling skills remain intact !!

To keep a good bounce you gotta keep the air in your program. Obama works the hardest at filling his with HOT AIR.....

McCain hitting Obama hard on his written promise to use public fund financing and now reneging. McCain saying how can you trust him, if he goes back on his word on a written promise. I agree

Russ Feingold is also pissed about the decision to throw campaign financing under the limo. Obama has set this cause back decades. It has long been a huge issue for me, and I see no way for our system to improve unless campaigns are publically financed and equal.

But the biggest concern should be the willingness of Obama supporters to march in lockstep at this and any other backtrack. I truly believe if Obama came out in favor of waterboarding, his supporters would just stand there glassy-eyed chanting "Yes, we can!"

Politics should not be turned into a quasi-religion, and we should be very wary of it. That's exactly what the Bush crowd did and look what we got.

Fundamentalists have taken over both parties.

But the biggest concern should be the willingness of Obama supporters to march in lockstep at this and any other backtrack. Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | June 20, 2008 7:50 AM

Question Obama's judgment and motives. Never!

If there's anyone who is a natural expert on "bouncing", it's you "Ping Pong"...

My thought for the day: Should Barack Obama come out during the campaign and formally break with the entire concept of a "War On Terror."? We take the concept as a given, now, because it's been part of our reality for going-on seven years. But don't forget it really is a political slogan created by the Bush Administration. So why shouldn't Obama make the formal renunciation of those words part of his campaign? Not that we're going to go "soft" on terrorism, but rather that we are simply going to eliminate the idea of an unending, hopeless, unwinnable "war" with no finish line -- a "war" that was designed primarily to manipulate people through fear.

Any thoughts? Would it help or hurt Obama to explicitly declare War on the War On Terror?

Or has he done as much implicitly already in this long campaign?

The fumes from that bus are getting really gaggingly strong.

HmmmmLard I think Obama enlisted this week in the War on Terror

Sen. Barack Obama today named his National Security team and delivered a prepared speech on the war on terror and Guantanamo. I'm disappointed with it.

Three examples:

There are terrorists who are determined to kill as many Americans as they can. The world’s most dangerous weapons risk falling into the wrong hands. And that is why the single greatest priority of my presidency will be doing anything and everything that I can to keep the American people safe. (my emphasis.)

If you were hoping universal health care or creating more jobs or reducing our country's reliance on incarceration would be his greatest priority, this is a letdown.
http://www.talkleft.com/main/2

Was Obama's "Certificate of Birth" manufactured?

"In short, there is nothing in this copy to indicate that it is, in fact, a "certified copy." As I have shown above, there is a whole lot of evidence that it is a manufactured copy. There certainly is a very strong motive for creating one."

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/2008/06/20/was_obamas_certificate_of_birth_manufactured.thtml

In direct contradiction to recent Q and ARG polling, Ras sez McCain by 8 in Florida, and the off shore drilling issue does not hurt McCain:

The Florida survey also found that McCain currently leads Obama in the state by a 47% to 39% margin. Six percent (6%) said they would vote for some other candidate while 8% are undecided. However, after voters were told that McCain favored offshore drilling and Obama opposed it, McCain’s lead increased to eleven points, 49% to 38%. While a three-point net gain is not stunning, it is significant that the issue didn’t push voters towards Obama. All of McCain’s gains on the offshore drilling issue came from male voters.

Who is right? To be honest, this seems more in line with my feel for the state of the race in Florida.
http://www.talkleft.com/main/2

And that is why the single greatest priority of my presidency will be doing anything and everything that I can to keep the American people safe. (my emphasis.) http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/06/banking-on-the-bounce.html#comment-105345

Sure that wasn't Bush that said that?

Thanks for the link, KGC. How timely.

I do, however, think there is still room for him to maneuver -- I think the object is to talk tough about national security on his own terms, not the failed terms of the Bush Administration. And the most symbolic way to do that would be to renounce the actual phrase "War On Terror"

A rhetorical gimmick? Maybe. But it might actual resonate with a citizenry that is tired of being told to be afraid all of the time.

bethyboo,
Thanks for your thoughtful response.

LL - "My thought for the day: Should Barack Obama come out during the campaign and formally break with the entire concept of a "War On Terror."? "
That is an excellent idea, keep that thinking cap on....it helps the rest of us.... : )

I am off to the dog park....everyone enjoy your day.

Lard
I think it's a great idea but I also thought the war tax was a good idea.

The BHO ad that Joe keeps raving about fails to mention 2 things. 1. BHO is know for his ability to deliver a great message when read from a teleprompter, and 2. he didn't write it, he is only reading what someone wrote for him. Sure it sounds good, but the next time you see it look at BHO's eyes. There is certainly a disconnect between what you hear and what his eyes are saying say.

And is that ad with the mother holding her baby, isn't that a 527 ad? Funny MSNBC keeps running that ad right after the BHO ad.

Obama Can’t Speak Without A Teleprompter
http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/09/obama-cant-speak-without-a-teleprompter/

Thanks, Nick

Craig!

Tell your young protogee that this video was sophisticated and nicely edited. Your always good on camera and your writing is great for TV. But this guy Souter? Is a natural and what could have been a nighmare with a bouncing ball, flows very well from one edit to another. Well done!

The Two Obamas

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By DAVID BROOKS
Published: June 20, 2008

God, Republicans are saps. They think that they’re running against some academic liberal who wouldn’t wear flag pins on his lapel, whose wife isn’t proud of America and who went to some liberationist church where the pastor damned his own country. They think they’re running against some naïve university-town dreamer, the second coming of Adlai Stevenson.

But as recent weeks have made clear, Barack Obama is the most split-personality politician in the country today.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/20/opinion/20brooks.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin

link from above-stuff there that shouldn't be there and link missing

My personal take on this NON Issue for Barack Obama.

When faced with Public funding that would give him 87 million or public funding from small donors (Like Me)that equals 500 milliond.......wellllll.......

What would you choose? I know what McCain would have chosen and I know what it is costing this Thread.

The only people who have been impacted financially are the ones who donated.

Thats pretty good in my books. Nothing illegal, everything voluntary......So i don't really think this will impact his standing in the poles either.

The unbelievably ineffective team of Pelosi and Reid strike again. How can two people supposedly in charge of the majority party in both houses of Congress hand a President with barely a 30% favorability rating every single damn thing he wants?

Apparently the only thing they are good at is destroying their own party with their petty prejudices.

Senator Clinton to Campaign with Senator Obama next Friday!

good morning gang....

Craig.... another winner of a video!

I think paying attention to polls during the summer is entertaining for political junkies only..... the rest of the population doesn't give a crap until after Labor Day.....

BTW..... really nice shirt....

and Happy Summer Solstice Day everyone!

Our favorite son Joe Biden on MTP on Sunday!

Sheila,

I agree that it simply will make no difference. As long as you are willing to admit that Barack Obama is a politician. He will do anything and everything to get elected just like every other politician before him.

Whether or not he will end up going down in history as someone whose machinations finally led to better conditions for the people of the US is a matter that will have to wait, but don't for a single second think that any of the high flown phrases mean a damn thing from any of them. They are what they are: Political animals and political animals bite.

Apparently the only thing they are good at is destroying their own party with their petty prejudices.
Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | June 20, 2008 9:36 AM

The only control we have over our politicians is with our vote.
Maybe now that the general public has become so aware of what's going on, there'll be enough organized agreement to do something about it.

Dude. Thanks for reminding me. We haven't seen bounce like we used to in the old days. I'm sort of ready for a new game, and Obama is playing like the young baller that he is, while McCain is looking like he's got a blown ACL. What happened to McCain? I remember enjoying his game. It was sort of fun watching the Celtic blow out the Lakers...it was highly disrespectful, but a lot of fun to watch.

Well Nick and Patsi,

The proposed 50 state strategy lives under the present campaign financing for Obama and the DEMS. This present phenomena of small donors lends an opportunity that will not come again in this age.

I say the Obama/Clinton and DNC finance teams are working to expand our reach for a long time to come and this is the best chance scenario.

I say let the rest of us who have donated our $50 for this month, help all of you too.

Hey

McCain's energy strategy a winner!!!!
"67% Support Offshore Drilling"
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/67_support_offshore_drilling_64_expect_it_will_lower_prices

Vote for Obama,
LOL
Vote for $4 gas forever!!!

I'm back!!!!!!!

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided government
Vote McCain

Is it known who will host MTP this sunday?

".... As long as you are willing to admit that Barack Obama is a politician." Jamie | June 20, 2008 9:42 AM

Agree.

It's not demeaning to Barack in any way to look at him objectively. You can disagree with some things about him and still support his candidacy. He's a much more attractive candidate if others don't insist on putting him on a pedestal. It's hard to agree with Obama fans that seem to insinuate he's perfect in every way. It turns those sitting on the fence to go the other way.

Sheila,

I agree that it simply will make no difference. As long as you are willing to admit that Barack Obama is a politician. He will do anything and everything to get elected just like every other politician before him

Jamie,

I agree! A politician is a politician. Obama is not a prophet. ;0)

But you have to admit that there is a "Chance" that Obama is being on the level with the public.

There have been honest politicians in American History. Time will tell if this one is a good as my hunch says. Myself and a great number of this country have vetted him ourselves. Under the present day selection We feel he is the best chance for change.

Politicians are never a sure thing. The political climate needs changing. I thing we are on the brink of being about to change it. We shall see!

I saw someone mention Russert was also the Washington Bureau Chief. Does that necessarily mean that whoever is chosen to host MTP is also the same person who becomes the new chief? If so, it's a much bigger appointment. And if it's a Washington outsider, they'll need to relocate. Maybe that goes without saying.??

We shall see! Sheila

'We shall see' , I like that a lot better than 'Yes we can".
Good Sheila!

Chloe,

I see young people not being able to voice the reason for their choice eloquently. That is what I see. I see the rest of us, having the choice of a "Politician" that so far, has been reasoned and brilliant in his handling of this campaign.

I see hope for great handling of a very tuff situation to inherit in January. Watch the gray hair excellerate.

Craig -- Throwing balls around the inside of my house will get a timeout. Nice video though!

Jamie -- I look at those Congressional Approval poll with a jaded eye. No one ever likes Congress collectively. Congress is usually held in the same esteem as real estate speculators and used car dealers. Unless, UNLESS, it's one's own Congressperson. Then the numbers tend to be a little more reflective. People tend to like their own individual Member of Congress more than they like the Congress as a whole.

The next Prez needs to come in with a strong, clear agenda -- and a timeline to get things done -- otherwise it will be more of the same because Congress leads as well as a herd of cats.

McClellan testifying on CNN

Chloe,

Time Russert was the first Washington Bureau Chief to have the MTP seat too.

I don't think they will do that this time. Its a daunting role. I think a journalist to meet Russerts standards on MTP is hard to find too. the next person to take the role of on air will have to start at a run.

Bureau Chief is probaby already filled for now.

a herd of cats.
Posted by: Alicia Knight | June 20, 2008 10:00 AM

Great analogy Alicia.
I had to laugh.
Can you imagine telling ONE cat what to do? Good luck.

Hey
Can it be true?

Jesse Ventura is back!!

Jesse Ventura for senate '08
Could be.

Go Jesse!!!
LOL

Other news in Minnesota
The comedians a flop
send him back to holly wood.

Dems miss golden opportunity in Minnesota!!!!!

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_senate_elections/minnesota/election_2008_minnesota_senate

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided government
Vote McCain

NBC News Executives Debate Names to Replace Tim Russert
Russert was a fixture beside first Brokaw, then Williams, on election nights with his contagiously enthusiastic analysis. He was a frequent guest of the "Today" show, explaining the latest political developments. His loss likely means a larger on-air role for Chuck Todd, the network's political director, who was recruited to NBC News by Russert. Todd has been increasingly visible this political season, particularly on MSNBC.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,367866,00.html

I like and trust Todd.

Sheila,

I actually like him a little better this way ... clay feet and all. All that sweetness and light was putting me in danger of contracting diabetes just by being in the same room with one of the worshipful ones.

I just wish it had become more obvious to more voters during the primary. One thing I have always contended is that you can't change anything if you can't get elected in the first place and I honestly believe that we had two potentially "tranformational" politicians running at the same time. I believe that if they can work together it will be even better for the public.

My only remaining gripe is that the campaign run by Axelrod against Sen. Clinton was unnecessarily vicious and dishonest. I'm willing to give Obama the benefit of a doubt, but how he treats Sen. Clinton will be the final deciding point.

Hey
Can it be true?
Jesse Ventura is back!!
Posted by: Pugnacious | June 20, 2008 10:04 AM

Pugnacious is back too!

sturgeone-

I'm thinking McClellan is testifying today to divert attention from the FISA vote which I believe is scheduled. Which story gets the headline on the evening news?

Is it okay if I really, really really dislike Nancy Pelosi a whole lot?

How nice it would be to have a media actually capable of handling both, eh?

For all OOOOOld Women.

Take heart
One of yours is hanging tough

"North Carolina Senate: Dole Takes 14-Point Lead Over Hagan"

Elizabeth Dole is kicking young butt.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_senate_elections/north_carolina/election_2008_north_carolina_senate

Whoo hoo
Score one for the Old farts

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided government
Vote McCain

Well Jamie,

On behalf of my candidate I say Thank You! Well said and heart felt and eloquent as only you can express.

I have no doubt that these two have devoped a devotion for each other. I saw it increasingly during the campaign and I bet we see it again, now that things are calming down.

Pug.......ha ha ......that's not oldfartism......that's NC yahooism.........

LOL Pelosi.....

YOu can if you want! I am leaving my final assesment for after the election.

I know I've said this before, but I really beleive there is some under current of extortion in Congress. there is something that is tying their hands...So many HUGE EGOs are silent.

I know I've said this before, but I really beleive there is some under current of extortion in Congress. there is something that is tying their hands...So many HUGE EGOs are silent.

it certainly does appear that way.........

Hey
Sturgeone

NC is Obama Country!!!

Right?

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided government
Vote McCain

Hey Sheila

Hands not tied.
Hands are full of $100 bills

LOL

Vote divided government
Vote McCain

there is some under current of extortion in Congress. there is something that is tying their hands...So many HUGE EGOs are silent.

it certainly does appear that way.........
Posted by: sturgeone | June 20, 2008 10:20 AM

I think they are required to agree on everything. By the Party. Otherwise, they are shunned.

Hands not tied.
Hands are full of $100 bills Pugnacious

nail on the head.

pug......yeah, right.....if you leave out the confederately inclined faithful......

I think they are required to agree on everything. By the Party. Otherwise, they are shunned.

Posted by: chloe | June 20, 2008 10:25 AM

To a certain extent, yes. Many bills are strong armed the party way. But the overall look of this. The DEM's were supposed to be the heroes when they got majority.

With the Republican's that should have started voting with the Dems to save their asses with their constituents and they DIDn't?

Pelosi in her right mind should have wanted to seem all powerful and MURTHA has been silent too.

There are just a lot of markers for something going on behind the scenes....

David Brooks editorial on "The Two Obamas"

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/20/opinion/20brooks.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

There are just a lot of markers for something going on behind the scenes....Posted by: Chef Sheila | June 20, 2008 10:30 AM

Sheila,
I agree with you.
But aren't there always?

Pugnacious

Elizabeth Dole is horrid. She was horrid 25 years ago. A quarter century has not improved her.

jamie......but her hair has become much much harder over the years.......she doesnt have to wear a hardhat when she panders at construction sites now.......

it's approaching Glen Campbell TV Show hardness.....

Chloe,

Not like this.

We are in crisis. they know it.

The war was wrong and the Prez and Veep are scene as war criminals around the world. They know it.

Economy is in a swift downward sprial and we've known it for at least a couple of years.

I mean, can it be any more crazy? and all told, there are no heroes in congress? No one that wants to be the hero?

I really think that if Feingold wasn't hog tied by something....he would have been forcing something.

Feingold is the Patrick Henry of this Party.

Ok, gotta start getting ready for the day. TTFN!

Ok, gotta start getting ready for the day. TTFN!
Posted by: Chef Sheila | June 20, 2008 10:40 AM

Thanks Sheila.
I see your point.

Chloe

I agree with Sheila on This one. There is simply no reason for the Democrats to cave so visibly or for some of the major respected power brokers such as Feinstein to quitely vote as expected.

Something is going on and I have a major feeling there will be a lot of books written about this last year in the Bush presidency. He is worse than a lame duck. He is a dead duck with everyone waiting for the body to be removed. Handing him all these legislative victories doesn't make sense.

Pass the tin foil. I need a new hat.

ET , there was a story behind the Rick Astley video. There is an internet phenomenom about it. Supposedly , you send someone a link , but you tell them it is something else. When they clink on the link you send them they are led to the Rick Astley video for "Never Gonna Give You Up". LOL! They call it being "Rick-Rolled". Apparently some political blogs said they had the elusive Michelle Obama "Whitey" video and posted a link to it. When people clicked on the link they were led to the Rick Astley video. Hence , they were "Rick-Rolled"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rolled

Pass the tin foil. I need a new hat.
Posted by: Jamie | June 20, 2008 10:42 AM

Make that two.

They said Obama was looking at Edwards as a possible VP. I thought Edwards had already said he didn't want to be VP? If Obama is about change isn't picking a former VP candidate not really change?

Jamie and Chloe,

While your at it, make one for Pug! A double layer maybe? With a brim to protect fully protect him from all those Divided Rays.

"Handing him all these legislative victories doesn't make sense "

Jamie, do you think they're using it to negotiate with Bush. I know that doesn't make much sense, but neither does anything else.

>>>>>Before I go>>>>

Corey,

(1) Edwards said that to deflect attention away from Veep. he still may.
(2) No politician with an ounce of sense would say anything to give the paparazzi a reason to bug them.

Time to go!>>>>>

They said Obama was looking at Edwards as a possible VP.... If Obama is about change isn't picking a former VP candidate not really change?Posted by: Corey | June 20, 2008 10:48 AM

I don't know Corey.
But they sure looked good on that stage together when Edwards endorsed.

Well , Edwards is a known commodity that the average person who DOESN'T follow politics closely will still probably know. That would be an advantage.

Know Obama
No Obama

WWW.OBAMA-WIRE.COM

I think he almost has to pick one of the people who ran against him. None of the others mentioned from elsewhere really carry any impact. They all just come across as rather wimpy.

It may sound strange, but I think because he is so new to the national scene and virtually unknown internationally, that he almost needs a Co-Star to sell the movie. Clinton, Edwards, and Biden come to mind. If it isn't Clinton I would really like to see Biden. Either would carry a lot of International credit.

Oooh, The New Politics
I am so excited by Barack Obama's new politics. Like Chris Matthews, I got a thrill down my leg when the senator announced his candidacy promising a "new kind of politics." As I recall, he said, "Our leaders in Washington seem incapable of working together in a practical, commonsense way. Politics has become so bitter and partisan, so gummed up by money and influence, that we can't tackle the big problems that demand solutions. And that's what we have to change first." Goosebumps!

Somebody catch me, I may swoon.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/06/oooh_the_new_politics.html

Hmmmmm.

It’s the first MTP show following Russert’s death (other than the retrospective / memorial piece last week) and Joe Biden is the guest.

Any one else suspect this is his major audition for the VP post. It’s hard for me to believe this is coincidental. Biden is the name the Washington insiders have been hearing for more than a week, and I think that’s why they went after him for MTP. I know he likes medial attention, but I don’t see any real reason for Biden to go on unless he WANTS the VP post and sees this as his opportunity to convince BO and others that he’s the best choice.

Any one else suspect this is his major audition for the VP post.

Either that, or he was already scheduled long ago.

Jamie said,
"Is it okay if I really, really really dislike Nancy Pelosi a whole lot?"

That's how this household feels, her nickname here is Pel-loser.

Obama, John Barrow & the telecoms:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/06/19/obama/index.html

At least Donna Edwards dodged the bus.

The last round in the Dem veepstakes has started and a whole lot of somebodies are pushing Judas over Biden.

Clintonistas Unite!!!! Vote Biden. : )

UB

Peloser, Pukelosie. Put her on stage with McCaskill and you have both of the witches - West and Midwest.

I suspect that the Dem leaders think that the more successful bush is, the bigger the reaction will be in November.

Such a cynical policy would not do Ried, Polosi, or the Party credit. However, I can't think of any other rational explanation for this co-operation with the forces of evil.

I smell a 'Dewey Wins!'

Jamie,
The only reason you don't like McCaskill is because of Obama.

You should be proud. She's Freakin great!

BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN!!!!!

Hey

LOL

A good one

The Corner:

"Two Cheers for Obama [Ramesh Ponnuru]

Good for him for not making taxpayers fund his campaign. He may have flip-flopped, and explained the flip-flop dishonestly—that's why I'm not giving him a third cheer—but he ended up in the right place. "

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NmZhNTQ5NGFhZmQxYzRmNDJlNmZiODQ0OTY5Y2YxYjE=

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided government
Vote McCain

Hey

McCaskill

Looks like a Democrat

Votes like a Republican

That's my girl

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided government
Vote McCain

Exclusive: MoveOn To Close Its 527 In Response To Obama's Candidacy

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/moveon_to_close_its_527.php

MoveOn's decision, which will dramatically impact the way it raises money on Obama's behalf, is yet another sign of how rapidly Obama is taking control of the apparatus that's gearing up on his behalf.

By shuttering its 527, MoveOn is effectively killing its ability to raise money in huge chunks from labor unions, foundations, and big donors who would give over $5,000. The decision doesn't mean MoveOn will stop spending on Obama's behalf. Instead it will raise money exclusively with its political action committee, whose average donation is below $50 and will even be raising money with things like bake sales starting this weekend.

I love Pugnacious. Glad he's(?) back.

House just passed FISA

I voted for Biden in the Veepstakes.

However, I think that the demonization of Richardson is no longer helpful to any cause, and could further upset Indian and Hispanic voters.

When I try to balance the hurt feelings of many against the hurt feelings of others, I have to come down against hurt feelings.

"Oh, it's a fat girl's name" - Judd Nelson in "The Breakfast Club" after Molly Ringwald tells him that her name is Claire.

Obama has raised $225 mil so far, right?

He's not going to honor his "promise" to stick to the $85 mil Public Financing.

McCain is. Hell...Obama already has a "Read My Lips..." thing going. Very disappointing. We need an honest candidate. What's going on with this ? anybody know? Why did he make the "promise " to use only Public Financing at all?

"will even be raising money with things like bake sales starting this weekend"

LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL

Hey
Stealing money from the little leagers.
Bake sale in front of Walmart.

LOL

Wanna bet
taking Obama's side
Screwed the big money donation.

Nobody trusts them
Nobody wants them.
They are gonna go eat worms

LOL

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided government
Vote McCain

Claire McCaskill is wrong on FISA and wrong on immigration, just to name two. She's freakin alright but not great.

Bankruptcy Biden not to mention his spineless performance on the senate judiciary committee.

Dexter says: " We need an honest candidate. "

Sorry to say, that is never going to happen in politics....the best you can hope for is someone will will do the right thing when it comes to the big decisions. . .and you can not even expect that 100% of the time.

McCain is. Hell...Obama already has a "Read My Lips..." thing going. Very disappointing. We need an honest candidate. What's going on with this ? anybody know? Why did he make the "promise " to use only Public Financing at all?

Posted by: Dexter | June 20, 2008 12:51 PM

Because even Obama could not have predicted the windfall of this campaign and the realisation that the 50 State Strategy might be possible.

McCain promised he would not use 527's either and he is allowing them and not condeming.

Would you stop the small doners and have the money coming from the DNC which is in fact, by and large broke?

Sheila

My first response to McCaskill was that she looked as if she was bagging kittens for a swift trip to the river. That is still the way she comes across.

Standing too close could get you a knife in the back. There is something about her that sets off my Ow-ooh-gah sirens. Pelosi looks practically benign by comparison.

I am going to ride my bike to the store. . . . .

It's a beautiful day here on the north coast. . . .

oh, I almost forgot

Happy Friday Everyone!

peace~

Okay. I'm outta here for the weekend. Nice day for a drive. Be good!

chloe - BO got no bounce when Edwards endorsed him. They do "look" good together, but let's hope that's not how people actually vote. BO is gonna have to go with somebody with military/foreign policy experience.
Still, he will actually have to prove that he has something substantial and positive to offer; somebody more well-equipped for the job, perhaps.

tiptoe - Nice post.

Craig Crawford - Please do NOT play ball on the stairs! We'd like to keep you in one piece for awhile.

Pug, I lived in MN during those silly 'ventura' days.

The big thing james janos (dba jesse ventura) did as governor was get the legislature to lower the license tab fees for expensive jesse ventura type cars. Four years of non-stop hoopla only produced cheaper tabs for Porsches and Bentleys.

Two weeks after he took office janos made himself a lame duck by saying in a playboy interview,

"Organized religion is a sham and a crutch for the weak-minded", and that his highest aspiration was to be a 38 DD bra. The former was impolitic, but the latter was disgraceful.

Later, janos pushed for the legalization of prostitution, claiming he had ho'd once, himself, and that it was good. By that time no one would listen to him anymore.

janos wined, dined, and provided a king-sized bunk at the Gov's mansion for several months (at taxpayer and Foundation expense) for the relative of some obscure Hollywood tv type, who it turned out was not actually related to any Hollywood types, obscure or otherwise.

If janos (the first MN governor ever to operate under an alias) could get as much as 10% of the vote, it would be a miracle.

Blue,

Just the idea of Craig being more than one story above flat earth is enough to make you nervous. Gravity and Mr. Crawford are not friends. : )

The repuggs without 527's are like fish out of water.
But, gee, why did so many people believe the SwiftBoaters's crap in first place?
Casting Kerry as a liar while Bush was exempted from going to war with his status in the inactive military was quite a feat...but how did they get the public to ever believe it?
Kerry was too above-the-fray to just slug it out with the repugg lying machine...I think he thought the great American populace would itself condemn the ridiculous claims about Kerry's Vietnam service. They made it seem that going up and down those rivers in Vietnam was a picnic. HA!! It was the most dangerous US Navy ops in the entire war...sitting ducks on a small watercraft...but...people believe what they will....those swiftboat crews and the helicpoter crews had our deep respect while I was in VN....

Lard - Nice thought, but I think if BO said we were ending the "war on terror" it would make him seem even softer.

It's a good idea to move toward peace, toward stability instead of putting forth the idea that we need to be in conflict with someone/thing.

It would be wonderful if people would accept doing that. BO would have to have a detailed plan of how to bring about peace and stability if he made such a claim. To date, he hasn't really been able to communicate details about much of anything to some of us.

Peace.

If you love the music of Bob Dylan, see, rent or buy "I'm Not There". There is no way to explain the movie other than that it is a cryptic as some of his lyrics slipping back and forth from black and white to color and from one time period to another while using dialogue from much of the Dylan interviews.

It helps if your brain is permanently wired on strange, but the music and Cate Blanchette are worth the price.
Do a double feature with "Across The Universe" featuring the Beatles music and you may never be the same again. : )

Just recommending it as a safety precaution for our favorite pundit.

blueINdallas,

it is still too early to discuss plans in detail, which the opposition will only rip to shreds between now and Nov.

That is one reason why every vp between Van Buren and oldbush (and Al Gore) lost - they inherited detailed plans that were well-known to their opponents. Premature disclosure of plans may also have been a contributing factor in the defeat of Gov. Dukakis.

This isn't fussing for a fight, just a bit of curiosity. Has anyone seen more than one picture of Sen. Obama with his mother?. The latest commercial has the single photo when he is a baby.

Jamie though this does not directly answer your question, it reminded me of Obama's response when he was asked what his more treasured possession was:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2007-12-13-968474278_x.htm

"Any thoughts? Would it help or hurt Obama to explicitly declare War on the War On Terror? "

Lard....I'm with you on the "War on Terror" rhetoric...and would LOVE Obama coming out with some honest criticism of the "concept." But for his own political good, I think he should not.

Kathy,

You have to give Fred Thompson points for honesty:

Former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson: "Trophy wife."

Jamie- I know that was my favorite part- No acting involved in that answer!

Jamie though this does not directly answer your question, it reminded me of Obama's response when he was asked what his more treasured possession was:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2007-12-13-968474278_x.htm

Posted by: Kathy | June 20, 2008 2:00 PM

Kathy Awesome. That's worth posting again.

Jamie, I suspect the obvious;

(1) They family wasn't as photo savy as most.
(2) The photos that they have are precious and worth keeping to themselves. Private.

Jamie- here is a comprehensive article about Barack's mom- good to read especially after the discussion here this week about mother's effects on their sons.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/14/us/politics/14obama.html?ex=1363233600&en=59b18ce891d6c067&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

"Obama, John Barrow & the telecoms:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/06/19/obama/index.html"

Thanks jeejee...this is an important article.

Stanley Anne Obama Soetoro. A complex human being. Thanks Kathy.

Corey,

These are for you...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMG87axdarw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcmOe2geZ4Q&feature=related

Gallup: Obama 46, McCain 44

...and the AMC Gremlin was ridiculed by all except the Gremlin Fan Club. Now, it's easy to see where the Toyota Matrix got its design from...the AMC Gremlin.

bama takes MySpace page from backer
updated 12:11 p.m. CT, Thurs., May. 3, 2007
WASHINGTON - Is MySpace always mine or can it belong to someone else? At the cost of losing 160,000 friends, Democrat Barack Obama's presidential campaign has taken over control of the MySpace page listed under his name on the popular social networking site.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18466315/from/RS.3/
Posted by: tictac | June 20, 2008 7:24 AM

That was long ago. I am active on MySpace and I remember when it occurred. Barack Obama wanted to use his own name for his run for the Presidency. It wasn't anything nefarious or heavy handed I think. The person who ran that MySpace could have created a MySpace name different such as "Fans of Barack" or maybe "Obama Supporters United"

I don't think this particular story is really worth anything.

Hey
Can it be true?

Jesse Ventura is back!!

Jesse Ventura for senate '08
Could be.

Go Jesse!!!
LOL

Other news in Minnesota
The comedians a flop
send him back to holly wood.

Dems miss golden opportunity in Minnesota!!!!!

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_senate_elections/minnesota/election_2008_minnesota_senate

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided government
Vote McCain

Posted by: Pugnacious | June 20, 2008 10:04 AM

He was and is a doofus. But one thing I liked about Jesse was the bumber stickers seen around Minnesota that read "my Governor can beat up Your Governor" :-)

Where is the leader of the Democratic Party?
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/obama_spokesman_i_dont_know_hi.php

Perhaps he will vote present.

Dexter, I saw a Gremlin going through town a few months back. It had flames airbrushed on the sides, & a devil's head on the back windshield. That car was Hot!

Patsi,

remember the other day when we were talking about the Gov Mansion in Austin and the fact that it burned? Turns out I read today that most of the security sensors around the outside of the grounds were covered with construction materials or rubble. 7 of the 12 security cameras were inoperative and the manpower from the Texas Dept of Safety was short by half. Texas Dept of Safety is the Highway Patrol in Tx and is the starting spot if you want to be a Texas Ranger. And on top of all that if that is not enough, there was no insurance on the building so now the people of Texas have to pay for it. Rick Perry is a fine steward of the stuff in Texas.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

What a dumbass this Gerson guy is... He has a column about Barack Obama that proclaims "he's really a LIBERAL"...

OH HORRORS...

I can't remember when "liberal" became such a demonized word precisely, but I think it was during the 1980 Reagan campaign(?)... The problem with "liberals" is that they have traditionally ignored such attacks by following their own values that the criticism is free speech and an open and free society can withstand it. Liberals were and are too understanding when under attack (which has also hurt the Democratic Party). Rahm Emmanuel's battles with Republicans in 2006 showed how Democrats could stand up and win by throwing the sh*t right back at the Repugs and their supposed "conservative" allies.

It's time to reclaim the word "LIBERAL". It is not a bad word.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_American_liberalism

I grew up a DFL'er in MInnesota, and my Grandfather was a staunch Democrat in the liberal tradition. I am still a Roosevelt/Humphrey Democrat at heart.

I am all for LIBERALS... the ones who stand on principle, fight the good fight for societal betterment, and the ones who toss the crap back at the "CONSERVATIVES" who used to brand them as the scariest thing around until 9/11.

One follow up on the LIBERAL moniker from Wikipedia:

John F. Kennedy defined liberalism this way:
"If by a 'Liberal' they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a 'Liberal,' then I'm proud to say I'm a 'Liberal.'[3]
Modern American liberalism is largely a combination of social liberalism, social progressivism, and mixed economy philosophy. It is distinguished from classic liberalism and libertarianism, which also claim freedom as their primary goal, in its insistence upon the inclusion of positive rights and in a broader definition of equality. Modern American liberals view the concentration of wealth and the destruction of the environment as threats to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. While the development of modern American liberalism may be traced to the late 19th and early 20th century, it may also be viewed as the modern version of the classical liberalism upon which America was founded.[1] Following the Great Depression, it became the dominant ideology in the U.S., until the late 1970s. Today, it remains powerful, but continues to be challenged by the re-emergence of laissez-faire ideology.[4]"

Looking at the mess we've found ourselves in since Reagan up to the current disaster squatting at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, one would think the Repugs would hang their heads in shame at their constant attempts to demonize liberalism's goals and successes.

Tom

EUROTOM,

I can't agree with you more. Even Reagan didn't intend the evil he incarnated. If I were him, I'd be rolling over in my grave at the evil made in his name.

If Craig is around, sorry for that overly long quoting from the wiki, but I thought it was too awesome not to plaster it onto the blog.

'scuse me...

Just came across a Kris Kristofferson song that I hadn't heard before. If I didn't know better, I would think he got the chorus here. : )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeBb-gTjWKA

"If you waste your time a-talkin' to the people who don't listen,
"To the things that you are sayin', who do you think's gonna hear.
"And if you should die explainin' how the things that they complain about,
"Are things they could be changin', who do you think's gonna care?"

Out of curiosity -

Out of curiosity -

There were/are some people here who criticized Craig in the last day or so.

If any of them are reading, I would like to know what you think of MSNBC and Tweety and KO.

Seriously. It would put your comments about Craig's
"bias" in context. Please answer, won't you.

Tom...great post from JFK. I'd never seen that one before.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/06/banking-on-the-bounce.html#comment-105496

I saw this morning on shakesville that MSNBC had to pull a Hardball promo because of sexist content-this time directed against Michelle Obama.

The part I liked best was when the author compared MSNBC to the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation. You know, the people who will be the first against the wall when the revolution occurs.

Just came across a Kris Kristofferson song that I hadn't heard before. If I didn't know better, I would think he got the chorus here. : )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeBb-gTjWKA
Posted by: Jamie | June 20, 2008 3:56 PM

Jamie, you Devil.
GREAT song". Never heard it either. Thanks for the link.

From Sheila's 12:39 PM:

"...The decision doesn't mean MoveOn will stop spending on Obama's behalf. Instead it will raise money exclusively with its political action committee..."

Which means, Mr Obama won't be taking PAC money, instead he will have a PAC raising and spending money on his behalf. Now ain't that something. Change you can believe in. Wow.

HI all.. just running through on my way to a meeting. I think Obama's on the right track when he talks of terrorists as criminals. War on Terror sounded great to reps, but no one ever answered the questions about how do you know you've won? when is it over? etc. Making the point that it is CRIMINALS you're after is what most of us have thought about for a long time.

*Waves* See you later.

June 20, 2008
Hillary will return to Hill next week

After two weeks laying low after suspending her presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton will return to the Senate next week for a series of Capitol Hill and campaign events.

The details have not been released about her schedule, but a Senate Democratic aide confirmed to Politico that Clinton will have a significant event in the Senate next week, followed by a meeting Thursday with Barack Obama's campaign finance team. Clinton will top off her re-emergence with a major campaign event Friday with Obama, at a location that still remains secret.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/

Other Videos with Barack

"I have it from two solid, reliable sources–two individuals who are well known and respected in Washington circles–that Michelle Obama won’t be the only member of the Obama family featured in 527 ads come the fall. Looks like Barack has his share of “star” moments awaiting. Seems that Barack did not appreciate during trips to Africa and Israel that there is a thing know among intelligence professionals as “hostile” intelligence services. Apparently Barack did not understand that Vegas rules did not apply (you know, what goes on in Vegas stays in Vegas)."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/20/other-videos-with-barack/

Hey Nick.
Liked your 'Revolution' link too.

"I have it from two, solid, reliable sources..."

GORDO --

Don't you understand that phrases such as that are absolutely in the rhetorical mode of Joe McCarthy at the height of his powers? Is that who you really want to be associated with on this blog?

Also, would you please state what your political agenda is? Are you a Dem or a Republican? Are you for McCain? Are you hoping Barack blows up and Hillary gets back in? Were you ever really for Hillary?
What is the deal with you? I think as much as you post here, you owe the rest of the community at least that much of an explanation.

Inquiring minds....

I'm not being

It is called To beat the Devil and it is on his first record "Me & Bobby McGee" he dedicated it "John & June who helped show me how to beat the devil"

I'm not being rude or facetious. I really just want to know.

And if you don't know who John & June are, you'll have to ask Patsi or WhiskyJack.

How about the War on Cancer and the War on Drugs?We're winning those, too, aren't we?

Operations Dirge and Splurge, are turning the corner on those 2 wars, I believe.

"Are you hoping Barack blows up and Hillary gets back in?"

YES

"And on top of all that if that is not enough, there was no insurance on the building so now the people of Texas have to pay for it."

Unbelievable! I hope Texans raise hell about it.

Okay. So you are truly for Hillary then. Which means that presumably you are a Democrat.

That's a good start. So why would you want to associate yourself with so enthusiastically with a guy who is basically using McCarthyesque tactics and rhetoric? I can't imagine Hillary ever approving of such tactics.

By the way GORDO, I enjoy you as a mysterious character on this blog and often find amusement in your posts. I know I've poked fun at you about circling the Earth in your spaceship and just beaming down these links to us. I don't find that you are rude or overbearing. So please do not construe my questions as any kind of attack on you.

"Even Reagan didn't intend the evil he incarnated. If I were him, I'd be rolling over in my grave at the evil made in his name. "

Reagan knew exactly what he was doing.

Gordo's Theme Song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnciqJ8-IUE&feature=related

"Are you hoping Barack blows up and Hillary gets back in?"
YES
Posted by: GORDO | June 20, 2008 5:16 PM

Honesty!
Gordo, I don't care what anyone says. I love you.

That's a good start. So why would you want to associate yourself with so enthusiastically with a guy who is basically using McCarthyesque tactics and rhetoric? I can't imagine Hillary ever approving of such tactics.
Posted by: LardassLiberal | June 20, 2008 5:19 PM

Come on Lard. Lighten up.

Bowman

My Pandora has John and June on it. And if you haven't created your own radio station on Pandora, get busy or just search Pandora for "webthings" and listen to Eclectic R Us that is my everything in the pot station, or for the standards I love go to Piano Bar.

http://www.pandora.com/

"Are you hoping Barack blows up and Hillary gets back in?"
YES
Posted by: GORDO | June 20, 2008 5:16 PM

This doesn't mean GORDO is a Hillary supporter, merely that he prefers her, for whatever reason, as the Democratic candidate.

LardassLiberal -------------------------------

None of this matters if there are no videos. I hope Larry Johnson is working with the Clinton campaign and they have the MO and BO videos. The anti-McCain Repub billionaire story could be used as "cover" so as to not leave any Clinton "fingerprints".

Do you understand what was done to the Clintons (and their supporters) by the DNC and MSM? Hillary has every right to take Obama down anyway she can.

Daily Gallup shows McCain closing the gap: 4 points apart.

"Obama-McCain virtually tied: Gallup
With numbers like these it's going to be a long, hot summer."

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/06/obamamccain_virtually_tied_gal.html

Chloe...I've been trying to lighten up for years. But you know how tough those pounds are to shed.

Anyway, the whole thing about McCarthy is that he made sense, sounded in-the-know and pulled millions of Americans along for the ride when he was at his peak. But once he was exposed as a fraud, everyone wondered how they had been suckered in like that -- and anyone associated with him or his tactics was considered an embarrassment to everything America is supposed to stand for.

I just don't want the same thing to happen to GORDO because of this "noquarter" guy, who sounds to me like a complete jackal and buffoon.

Thanks for explaining that Lard.

I didn't see your follow up to Gordo before I wrote that.
It was nice. And explained your intentions.

I just hated to see you taking all this so seriously.
I think Gordo is just keeping a small hope alive for Hillary.

That whole McCarthy thing was horrible. I didn't think this was really comparable to that, but now that you said where you coming from, I get it.

Tweety and KO dreamy,I suppose if your into non stop Clinton hate!! Real Dems. wouldn't be into that would they????

I had a '60 Rambler. Not great, but not awful. Fiat is awful. Fiat is the bushmccain of automobiles. They come pre-junked, right off the shelf.

gerson is all 1/2 truths and innuendo. He tries and fails to make the Son of Cain seem like a mighty tower of courage and sagacity, rather than a sick and confused old fascist hack trying to wheedle us into giving his wife yet another tax break.

Oh, and yes.
I know how hard it is to shed the pounds.

"Do you understand what was done to the Clintons (and their supporters) by the DNC and MSM? Hillary has every right to take Obama down anyway she can."

GORDO, maybe so -- in a world that has sunk to the depths of cynical depravity, pure gamesmanship and sensless made-for-cable theatrics. But in a more pragmatic world -- where people act in their own best interested unclouded by emotion? Not so much. As a Hillary supporter, I believe that she operates in the latter world. The idea of Hillary wanting to "take Obama down" is like a subplot from "Mean Girls" or something. Meaning it's not very sophisticated or thoughtful analysis.

Even if she hates his guts, what good would it do her for him to lose the general election. And if the "Holy Grail Tape" leaks before the convention, it would absolutely have her fingerprints on it -- so it would sort of defeat the purpose.

if your into non stop Clinton hate!! Real Dems. wouldn't be into that would they????
Posted by: tonyb39 | June 20, 2008 5:55 PM

VERY good point Tony!

Chloe
You have many good points as well in your posts!!! I enjoy you so much.Ya make me think. Thankyou

I think Katrina gave us another one of those magic moments as a third of the nation suddenly awoke and exclaimed, "How could I have believed all their lies?"

Tony, Thank YOU. Keep talking to us.

Don't ever listen to anyone who says the Palestinians have Obama's heart, or even his ear.
Google the recent AIPAC speech that Obama gave. Older pundits agreed it is the MOST PRO-ISRAEL SPEECH ever given by a candidate or a president of the US.
If you support Israel 100%, like so many Americans do, Obama is your man.
He has never given one word of support to a Palestinian point of view.
And that's the facts. Even hardcore Zionists are urging Obama to tone it down!

Nick, during a moment of financial embarrassment in the early 1970s, I succumbed to the lure of a low price tag. 850 Idromat. It was like driving the Viet Nam War to work and back. Since then, I have met a score or so of other Fiat owners and former Fiat owners. With one notable exception, we all thought our cars were the worst cars we ever owned. The one exception loved to work on cars, and his Fiats (yes, several!) gave him plenty to tinker with. The others I mentioned owned everything from the little spyder 850 to the 4 door sedans. The dates ran up to the mid-80s. I stopped seeing Fiats when I started seeing Yugos (= bait and switch)

That is my sad tale of woe. Now I have to feed my wife.
'Bye

The reason I find all this about BO and MO so believable is because nothing is "out of character". Just how much non - MSM research have most of you done? Probably not much. What many fail to understand is that the MSM is a world of mirrors, shadows, smoke and fog. Sometimes the "truth" can only be found in the alternative media - "tin-foil world".

Gordo,

Been at the neighbors across the street and next door. How's that for research? The neighbors I talked with all think the Os are sweet and kind, bright and thoughtful.

And, yes, some people in the Obama campaign said horrible and unjust things about Senator Clinton. Some got canned and some didn't. The same can be said in reverse. Both Senator Clinton and Senator Obama are admirable, capable, and sound. I would be happy to vote for either of them. Btw, I was for Edwards very early.

Now I really have to run, or my sweetie will starve, poor kid.

NY Post: Olbermann Threatens to Quit if Not Made 'Meet the Press'
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/06/20/ny-post-olbermann-threatens-quit-if-not-made-meet-press-host

You know folks, there's something vaguely menacing about Craig in the freeze frame from the "bounce" video at the top of the thread. Take a look: The head cocked back, the knitted brow and raised eyebrows over narrowly lidded eyes. Hands vaguely coming together behind the "Play Video" button as if he's cracking his knuckles. The whole urban-back-alley setting. He kinda looks like a West Side Story thug getting ready to throw down. Man, Craig's a BADASS!

My caption: "You talkin' to ME!"

Even the shirt he's wearing almost said "I just got outta the joint."

*almost says

"And frankly who cares, talk of the clintons is soooooooooooo primary season. "

Is this an attempt to channel some Valley Girl?

Did someone already post Gail Collins' column today. If not, here it is. She is brilliant. What Maureen Dowd wishes she could be:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/19/opinion/19collins.html?ex=1214625600&en=86af1ce580722cb2&ei=5070&emc=eta1

"It was like driving the Viet Nam War to work and back."-xr

I've owned a couple of chevys that meet those specs. It didn't help that back in those times I preferred to spend my money on a six pack instead of a quart of oil :).

Patsi
HA!! Love You!!! Ya have me hysterical with laughs all the time!!! My poor dogs on the end of the sofa think im so crazy. I scare them so!!! Oh Well.

Obama’s Birth Certificate: The Problems

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/obamas-certificate-of-birth-the-problems/#more-371

"My poor dogs on the end of the sofa think im so crazy."

Ha -- Tony, my dog (and the cats) had my 2 year old granddaughter as their very special guest this week. George the dog loved it, but the cats only semi-approved.

ROFL! Here's what one old dude posted today:

"Fifty-five years invested in the Democratic Party and THIS is what I have to show for it?

Rate on investment is pathetic.

I'm thinking I'll head for Skid Road and drop some cash directly in the cup/cap of some half-drunk vet sitting on the sidewalk along with a sandwich or two and some fruit.

Since I'm not counting on or tithing to the Democrats anymore, might as well give directly to the despised underclass. At least then I'll know where my money went and what for...and in most instances, probably to a 'better class of people,' all things considered."

"the cats only semi-approved."

Ha. I love them, but cats only 'semi-approve' of everything.

"Report: Ohio teacher burned cross on kids' arms
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91DVT200&show_article=1
"

I cannot imagine a middle school student stupid enough to allow a teacher to burn a cross on his/her arm. Both my children would have walked out.

Obama's Back Flips

"In just days, Obama has changed his mind on Iraq, reversed course on campaign finance, volte-faced on NAFTA and backtracked on Social Security. So what does the candidate of change really believe?"

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=298769662128800

Chloe, the sooner I never hear the name Olbermann (Keith) the better. I was the type that my friends dared not call between 8 and 9 because I was such a fan. Posted by: Nick | June 20, 2008 6:46 PM

Nick,
Me too! I used to love it when he went after Bush and would rant and rave. And I laughed and agreed. Then he turned it on Hillary, and it wasn't funny anymore. Now I can't stand the guy.

That's when I found out that all that mean stuff if really fun to watch when you agree with it, but when it turns against you, it's a whole different story. This election has really changed the way I look at things.

OK...totally "off-topic"...

I think the title of Keith Olbarackermann's #5 topic, tonight, was "OMENTUM"...I guess meaning Obama+Momentum= "Omentum"...right?

Not so fast, my friend!!! KO obviously does not watch OPRAH!!

http://www.oprah.com/health/yourbody/slide/20061102/yourbody_20061102_350_103.jhtml

ROTFLMTDAO!!!!!

BTW...

ROTFLMTDAO = rolling on the floor laughing my totally drunk a$$ off!!

(in honor of Tim Russert)

Rolling Rock, anyone???

Speaking of TR...have you seen his Nantucket summer home???

http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080614/NEWS/806140350/-1/COMM17

thanks for that link Lush...just what I want to see after eating chips.....

holy crap...it looks like a resort hotel....2 for 2

"Ha. I love them, but cats only 'semi-approve' of everything."

Ain't it the truth, Chloe.....

Keith Olbarackermann and " OMENTUM"...you can't make this stuff up!!

KO...I would like to introduce you to Dr. Oz!!!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOOL
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOL!!!!!!

hilarious!!

Omentum.... serves KO right.....

" They owned a 6,220-square-foot home "

I don't quite understand what people with one son do with that square footage. I worked on a project with a guy who told me he'd changed his lifestyle, that he'd never again buy a home where his kid lived in a different zip code.

Lush,

ROTFLMTDAO = rolling on the floor laughing my totally drunk a$$ off!!

I had it rolling on the floor laughing my tie dyed ass off

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

Hey Nick...I cannot claim the "omentum" credit....you have Dr. Oz to thank for that!!!!

Seriously...aren't there any people on Olberackermann's staff who watch the Oprah shows featuring Dr. Oz????

I'm just sayin''....

I really wouldn't even be watching KO, but I cooked an incredible dinner and we are doin' some serious drinking tonight...because I got my PEOPLE magazine with TR on the cover... 8~(

May God rest TR's soul...

I can only imagine that the consumer in them filled all the rooms with "whatever".....then they had to pay someone to come in every so often to dust the "whatever."....then eventually the "whatever" goes out of style and they replace it.......too much for me to consider.

it's like too much omentum -

Ohhhhhhhhhh...yo soy Horsedooty, I can do tie dyed...8~P

"Sen. Barack Obama's campaign released a statement Friday afternoon saying that while Obama opposes amnesty for telecom firms that spied on Americans, he will support the House compromise legislation."

And his campaign strategy was orchestrated by a telecommunications lobbyist. Where's the surprise?

it's like too much omentum -
--UB

you are so funny!!

Nick

http://www.geneseecreamale.com/

8~)

did it look like this?
http://www.thelathanfamily.com/Genesee%20Cream%20Ale.jpg

Anyone know what ever happened to GENESSE CREAM ALE>
I think it used to be brewed in Pensylvania--don't see it in D.C. anymore.

Posted by: Nick | June 20, 2008 8:44 PM

Rochester Ny, not Penn. ;0) Here is a website.
http://www.geneseecreamale.com/

http://www.geneseecreamale.com/History/

what would we do without the internet....?

LOL Neighbors helping neighbors.

Nick

Tucker buys GCA in DC...maybe you can, too!!

"Poured from a can purchased in a refrigerated 12-pack purchased at Tops Friendly Markets into a pint glass. "

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/302/1376/?ba=TuckerCarlson

Didn't you say you live off 395?

that omentum stuff is nasty...get it off your brain

hey.....

OMENTUM is not nasty!!

According to Keith Olbarackermann it is....

Obama + Momentum!!!!!!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

lol

Oh, sorry Nick...it appears that Tucker must've been in NY or PA, when he has that cold GCA...

http://www.topsmarkets.com/shareddev/Tops_Store_Locator/Locator.cfm

"was like driving the Viet Nam War to work and back. "

xrepublican -- I disagree with a lot of what you say -- but that is a fabulous line.

Hey Nick,

All I remember is the Brewery in Rochester NY. I went to college there at RIT. It reminded me of Rolling Rock. '-0

But Kodak really polluted the Genesee River. I hope they have corrected it by now.

Okay, everyone -- for the Summer Solstice --- how about we talk about our favorite movies about politics?

Right now I'm watching TCM, which is televising "The Best Man" with Henry Fonda and Cliff Robertson.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057883/

It's a good movie, but I still think my faves are "Being There" "All the President's Men" and "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington."

Looking at TR's home immediately sends you to George Carlin and stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac

My All time Favorite is "Pride and Prejudice" in all years and forms and style.

My newest Favorite is a miniseries. "John Adams" just ordered it.

Nick,

Lets just say a three headed fish and a frog with numerous legs as I was canoeing down the river.....ah Kodak!

Alicia

Mr. Smith Goes To Washington

Born Yesterday

and

The Candidate

Nick

yes, I live in Woodbridge, VA.

I pass your "neck of the woods" all the time, when I go to the movie theater off of Shirlington.

We actually lived right there(in a temp apt.), when we first moved here in 2000. Now it is all condos....but you probably know that.

small world, huh?

Just a brief shout out-
Tomorrows my Father's birthday he would have been 89..... ...just a shout out to him...Happy Birthday Dad!... he would have gotten a kick out of this blog. . . . . as he was always politically active.

The best political musical

1776

This should give you cold chills

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXCVG1UNj5Y

Happy Birthday Burritos PAPA!

I vote for ...

Wag the Dog

George Carlin's Stuff - That was perfect Jamie!

Hey

The root
of the
Obama myth

Mr Smith goes to Washington

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote for divided government
Vote McCain

Awwwww...I know your Dad will be celebrating tomorrow, UB!!!

My Mom was born 20JUN1932
...married 20JUN53
...first child(my sister) 20JUN54

unfortunately she passed away 12JUN74
(may God rest her soul)

my step-mother's birthday...20JUN36...yikes!!

Well Linda!

Happy Birthday MOMS!

I got married on my birthday too....

At least you only have to remember one date : )

Well since we are talking about family oddities and dates. ....I was born in my sister's birthday one year and 7 hours apart.

Not IN,,,,,,ON ;0)

Thank you, Sheila... 8~)

that happened to my neighbors...have you looked back nine months to see if it was a birthday , or fathers day? or anniversary? ..

Black out or blizzard? ?

Hey

Bank of America's
Pet Congress critter
Chris Dodd
Is coming through for them.
Bless them liberulls
they be so honest.

LOL

"National Review Online has obtained an internal Bank of America "discussion document" (pdf here) on the subject of the FHA Housing Stabilization and Homeownership Retention Act of 2008, a.k.a. the Dodd-Shelby mortgage-lender bailout bill"
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ODJkN2Q3NTY0MjAwYjJlNTY0NTJmMWEzZTI1OGZjZTg=

Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote divided government
Vote McCain

WOW, Sheila...that's cool!!

I am an 'Irish twin"..born 07JUN55. I guess everyone was freakin' out...thinking I might be a 20JUN baby, too!! It was not meant to be....I needed to "get out"...LOL!!

McCain has omentum on the brain.

A little easier for my family to understand. All five of us were conceived right after my Dad's return from Deployment! He was in the Navy.

So we figure his deployment to the North Atlantic was the same Battle Exercise.

lol...Shelia
like clock work...typical military...I have something to do right now!

Awe Family! Well gotta go make the donuts folks!

Time to earn my pay. have a great Friday.

Irish twins....I think my children only qualify for Irish triplets...three born in less then three years...LOL

Gee the closest I can come to momentous is a really fun New Years Eve and a baby in September : )

ciao Shelia!

lol Jamie, I never considered that before...that explains my 2nd child, born in Sept....13....maybe he was a tad late?

Rather than take up valuable rancor space, here's the list of Dems who voted FOR FISA.

Big brother strikes again, still.

*shaking head*

http://patterns2.blogspot.com/

tt

UB

Early. Maybe Christmas for you? My daughter was about 10 days early on Sept 26

Dang, Lushis Linda -- we're neighbors!

Big Brother will never stop.....

alternative means of communications - code - will be what retains privacy.

It's over.......if you are a target...they are on your @ss.

you're right Jamie...I bet it was anniversary 12/27- I realized that after I posted.

I haven't live in the south for ten years, I can imagine it ever changing....but if it ever could, it would be this year.

can = can't

Anyone still awake here? Just got home. There's something I've meant to say for a while. Please keep in mind that from now until election day, there will be trolls..there will likely be one troll posting with 11 different nics, so remember, not EVERY comment deserves a reply. Just let it lie.

My daughter's prom is tomorrow night, and I am struck that my daughter has grown into such a wonderful woman! Been getting ready to host a cocktail party for her group and their parents before the prom (photo op!). I am truly blessed!

Follow the Odinga

" ... now a journalist just might wake for a few moments from Obamania stupor to look into Obama's 2006 tour of Kenya, where he spent a good deal of his time with Odinga.

Several blogs have talked about anti-American remarks Obama supposedly made in Kenya on this trip, supporting Odinga in front of anti-American audiences.

...use their overseas connections to get the tape recordings from the reporters who wrote those Kenyan stories."

http://hillbuzz.blogspot.com/2008/06/follow-odinga.html

Alicia Knight

There are lots of people on Trail Mix, from this area...some post, some don't.

Where do you live?

I thought it looked normal...typical last minute out the door kiss....nothing more then "I love you - bye!"

Just wait until they get to selling the spicy mustard....

I just was thinking that if I were 71 years old, there is nothing about being president that would appeal to me...then I thought for a bit, and said to myself : He doesn't need the money.....who would hire him? to do what?

Oh and Craig? Thought I'd let ya know.. my facebook name is Tylenol Crawfordslist. :)

I'm not sure what this Face Book thang is. Doesn't seem to be intuitive pour moi. I know it's Social Networking, and that's about it.

Craig, I "Poked" you.

*mumbling*

*God only knows what that means.*

tt

And now I've sent you a gift?

And then there're networks, Yowza.

tt

8:45 PM and it's 90 in my apartment. Igot my ac's set up too late in the day to have them be really all that effective.

Does anyone have any experience with Mr Slim? I'm not asking for personal secrets - I mean an air conditioner which is hung on a wall and does not need to be vented.

Is that possible? If so, why didn't someone tell me. I tried calling one company - edt only and I'm in ca. The person I finally got to after a truly annoying autonaticcomputer answering machine - the sweet little darling could not be heard. I wanted to tell her to talk into her mouth piece, but I get truly incapacitated when it's hot.

Hard to believe, I know, but I get essentially speechless when it's too hot - close to catatoinc

Anyway I LOVE the story re KO and Tweety fighting over MYP. Oh, I hope it's true. I think that's how they are really, behind the scenes. Tweety was not happy when he announced KO's expanded schedule which gave him 3 exposures to Tweety's two. Then Tweety tried to horn in on David Gregory's show and Dan Abrams. Maybe that's a key to the Stepford reporters they have on their shows.

About Tim Russert, I realize now I had been thinking he was looking bad for maybe a week or week and a half. I didn't see him often but he just looked as if he was in discomfort, and I remember thinking he's really tired after this long season. I wonder if he was having some symptoms, like indigestion because that was the first thing I thought of

Alicia...favorite movie about politics and other stuff...

MINDWALK

It's fabulous!

"Things like this are where Obama's marketing people go too far.

This could backfire pretty quickly -- a new logo that merges the Great Seal of the United States with Obama's creepy "O" campaign logo -- it's just poor taste, and poorly executed, in our opinion.

It's also, it would seem, in violation of US federal code: "

http://hillbuzz.blogspot.com/2008/06/craziest-damn-thing-we-have-seen-in.html

Good morning... I have just read an article about this man who has put up an Obama attack site... http://ExposeObama.com/

"Ready to Attack Obama, if Some Money Arrives
By Michael Luo
New York Times

UNIVERSITY PLACE, Wash. — A Bible verse taped to a whiteboard in Floyd Brown’s office that he uses to track his efforts to attack Senator Barack Obama reads, “That is why for Christ’s sake I delight in weakness, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties.”

Mr. Brown, 47, a 6-foot-6 bear of a man is perhaps best known for his involvement with the Willie Horton television advertisement that helped sink Michael S. Dukakis’s candidacy in 1988..."

Full article on NYTimes: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/21/us/politics/21ads.html?ref=politics

This Mr. Brown calls himself a CHRISTIAN??? This sort of crap is one of the reasons I soured so much on politics and (among other reasons) decided to move to Europe. But as the old adage goes, "you can take the boy out of America, but you can't take America out of the boy". (adapted for this post).

What I mean to say is that I still care about my country, I still vote... I still hold frustration at what it has become and still hope what it can again be.

Mr. Brown has made it CLEAR to me -- my idea of writing in Hillary's name, while maybe nice for me, and others who do it, does not advance our country or our cause. Mr. Brown's hate has made me convinced that the only SANE thing to do is to vote for Barack Obama and that's what I am going to do.

Brown's style of hate and attack is what is going too far !!

Obama’s Florida Strategy: DROP THE RACE CARD

"Let us summarize the Obama campaign strategy: when one is poised to lose, drop the race card, but be sure to claim your opponents are the ones who are divisive, even if you are the one who disenfranchised the voters to whom you are appealing for funds. Always eschew any and all discussions on policy, and always refer to your opponents as racist and xenophobic. This is Obama’s version of unity, and this is Obama’s notion of waging a different type of political campaign."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/21/obamas-florida-strategy-drop-the-race-card/

"Rather than take up valuable rancor space, here's the list of Dems who voted FOR FISA."

Thanks for the link to your site/list, tiptoe. No surprise to see my congressman on there....

Chef Shelia,

I went to RIT too. School of printing. When were you there? Kodak is pretty much out of the film business, and now days nobody can discharage untreated wastewater into rivers or sewer systems. Between the EPA and the state environmental agencys this is strictly enforced. Huge fines if you get caught.

Question: Campaign debt.

The media keeps tossing out the 1 August date as when Mrs Clinton must have the cash to repay her campaign debt. If, at that point in time, she simply pays the entire debt from her pocket and leaves the campaign debt free, is there any reason why after that date people cannot simply give Mrs Clinton personal gifts to help her recover her personal losses?

Oh, the reason I asked the campaign debt question is that I absolutely abhor the way in which she is being held hostage by Mr Obama in order to gain her support for his campaign.

Flatus,

According to the rules as I remember them, She is required to have it paid off before is becomes her debt. AND not only just her people but Obama's people to pat the dept too. Supposed to force them to fund raise together.

After that, you can't give her personal monies. It will either go into her re-election fund or the DNC fund. If she doesn't have a relection fund set up(I'm sure she does), the money will go to the DNC.

Bowmanc,

I went 90 to 92. I finished my degree in Film with the Schools Documentary directing and script writing course. Great school. Horrible Winters. ;0)

"After that, you can't give her personal monies. It will either go into her re-election fund or the DNC fund. If she doesn't have a relection fund set up(I'm sure she does), the money will go to the DNC. "

Flatus -- I'd email and ask her campaign. Let's not send a dime to the corrupt DNC.

Her website or senate website will have all the info. I'm sure she is on top of it. There is one on Obama's website for her too.

Just noticed that Dollar-Bill Jefferson is running for re-election. I guess it shouldn't surprise me. When I moved to Tennessee from Colorado I was stunned to see a man re-elected from his jail cell. Since that time I've grown used to BS.

a little morning humor...

Subject: Election outlook

This is not necessarily a political statement . . . I just thought it was amusing and should be shared.

Subject: Irish point of view

Over in Ireland, they can't figure out why people are even bothering to hold an election in the United States.

On one side, you have a witch who is a lawyer, married to a lawyer, running against a lawyer who is married to a witch who is a lawyer.

On the other side, you have a war hero married to a good looking woman who owns a beer distributorship.

What are you lads thinking over there?

HAHAHAHA!!

http://hillaryclintonclub.com/2008/06/how-will-clinton-pay-off-her-debt.html

How Will Clinton Pay Off Her Debt?
At Her Disposal Are A Handful Of Accounting Options - Some Never Before Tried In Presidential Politics

(some based on fact and some based on imagination)

There is technically no deadline for Mrs. Clinton to pay back her creditors, but because of a clause in the McCain-Feingold campaign finance measure that was intended to limit the ability of candidates to self-finance campaigns, she has until the convention in August to pay herself back. After that, the most she could recover is $250,000.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/10/us/politics/10clinton.html?ref=politics

Obama Campaign Open to Helping Clinton Pay Off $20 Million Debt
Bloomberg - Barack Obama's campaign is open to paying off some of the more than $20 million in debt accrued by defeated rival Hillary Clinton, a top adviser said. ...Obviously we want to help each other.''

McCain's Law
The rule banning Clinton from paying herself back after the nominating convention is part of a 2002 campaign-finance law co- sponsored by Obama's Republican rival for the presidency, Senator John McCain of Arizona. The law had several provisions to make it more difficult for people to finance their own campaigns.

http://www.hillaryproject.com/index.php?/en/story-details/obama_campaign_open_to_helping_clinton_pay_off_20_million_debt/

This is 2 weeks old, but interesting.

Clinton ( McCain) Supporter Receives Threats

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmS_n2wan5g

On the other side, you have a war hero married to a good looking woman who owns a beer distributorship. LushIsLinda

They make McCain sound so good.
Just can't believe how they described the Democrats!

Oh lordy, chloe...lighten up...it's only an email joke that is making the rounds...

RMESSMH

Still funny.

It took John Glenn 20 years to resolve the debt from his presidential campaign and it only happened when the FEC allowed part of the debt to be forgiven.

The Obama/media obsesession with the Clinton debt is unnatural. A lot of the issues will remain unresolved unti there is a new administration and the FEC has full membership. Currently the FEC cannot act because it does not have a quorum.

After reading Sheila's link in her 8:59 AM comment, I would transfer GE contributions to her Senate fund then pay from that. She should be able to get enough of those contributors to redesignate their contributions to allow her to immediately payoff any vendors currently not paid.

PATSI, I agree with you about keeping the DNC's grubby hands away from any of our cash.

Oh, anon, I agree with your comments regarding the debt., your's too, Chloe.

Sure could use some of Jack's conversation and music.

Good morning all. The cats let me sleep in for a change. Any particular requests Flatus?

Me three on no money to the DNC until they clean up their act. I'll give directly to a candidate, but not one one dime to what I consider little better than a vote stealing criminal enterprise.

Nothing particular Jamie, just something not too edgy. Just got through cutting the grass. Skipped the trimming this week so I finished an hour and a half earlier than usual. Will be headed to the shower shortly.

Solstice, talk of heat and grass cutting, how about nothing but summer songs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OhpGvnOMO0

Nice jazzy verstion of Summertime

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yKgAEkCKxY

"Sure could use some of Jack's conversation and music."

Unfortunately, the way it was presented on this board, Jack was a malcontent -- all because he called phonies to task. And so, like many who received "the treatment" -- another of our good people left.

Slick back the hair

Summer Loving

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG4td8zudUU

I have something (a cold? the flu) and it's almost my birthday and I am in really bad mood. This is my question of the day.

Obama raised money through "small donors" a lot of them students with no outside income. If their parents gave them the money isn't this a violation,especially if the parents are maxed out donors.

(I said I was in a bad mood)

As Campaigns Chafe at Limits, Donors Might Be in Diapers

By Matthew Mosk
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 24, 2007; A06

Elrick Williams's toddler niece Carlyn may be one of the youngest contributors to this year's presidential campaign. The 2-year-old gave $2,300 to Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).

So did her sister and brother, Imara, 13, and Ishmael, 9, and her cousins Chan and Alexis, both 13. Altogether, according to newly released campaign finance reports, the extended family of Williams, a wealthy Chicago financier, handed over nearly a dozen checks in March for the maximum allowed under federal law to Obama.

Such campaign donations from young children would almost certainly run afoul of campaign finance regulations, several campaign lawyers said. But as bundlers seek to raise higher and higher sums for presidential contenders this year, the number who are turning to checks from underage givers appears to be on the rise.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/23/AR2007102301882_pf.html

KGC

I believe all members of the same family can give the maximum amount as long as they are of an age to vote. It is illegal for an employer to URGE employees to donate or to reimburse employees who do so, though that can sometimes be hard to prove.

Neat question KGC. My initial thought would be, if the parents gave them the money with no strings attached, then it would be legal.

Hope you get over the birthday. The cold will take care of itself.

Theme From a Summer Place

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPxIsQUpwMU

Oh, the reason I asked the campaign debt question is that I absolutely abhor the way in which she is being held hostage by Mr Obama in order to gain her support for his campaign.

Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | June 21, 2008 7:37 AM

Clinton is not being held hostage by Obama. Saying that is tantamount to saying the Clinton campaign made a huge tactical blunder in allowing it via the debt.

By cooperating Clinton and Obama are doing what is in each other's political self interest.

If Obama doesn't help Clinton retire her debt, he'll be seen as petty and divisive, costing him votes and money from Clinton backers. If Clinton doesn't campaign actively for Obama she'll be seen as petty and divisive, jeopardizing her future political ambitions and the ability to retire her debt.

KGC: Sorry you're not feeling well. Happy almost birthday. My birthday is today, as it happens.

The laws regarding donations by children and parents are rather complex. In general, an adult child with a source of income (even if it's a trust account funded by the family) is treated as an individual donor.

However, as someone pointed out, given that the FEC has so few members that a quorum cannot be assembled, such low-level violations, if they existed, would not come to light for quite some time and I don't know that there are any real penalties attached.

The Mel Sembler family in Florida and the Ed Donley family in Pittsburgh are good examples of families being 'deeply' involved.

Jamie: Theme from a Summer Place? I have to chuckle ... I seem to recall that that song was on the Hit Parade for more than a year. No one in the world who was alive at the time will ever forget that melody.

KGC. You aren't there yet, so you might as well celebrate

A Very Merry Unbirthday To You

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdsZT7WKjW8

Does anyone still have the link to Jacks site (with his garden)?

Happy Birthday to you, Magee! The damned things are contagious!

Summer In The City

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fxhebNeFXk

Flatus: Thank you. I used to hate birthdays...now I am just happy to be around to celebrate the day.

Thanks for the wishes and info
Flatus -I'm only unhappy about the birthday because bing sick cuts into my various party time. I was going into SF today but now I have to stay home and sulk.
I lov my birthday and usually celebrate for a month.

Happy Birthday Maggi! This is a very popular birthday time...Must be all those happy people celebrating the end of summer.

Questionable donations coming in from Chicago financiers? Say it ain't so! :)

Progressive Bloggers Get a Depressingly Heavy Dose of Reality

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/20/progressive-bloggers-get-a-heavy-dose-of-reality/

This ones good just for the sideburns

Mungo Jerry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc9wIzi96_E

Jack's Site with a message for Trailmixers

http://showyourgarden.blogspot.com/

Well Maggisd,

Happy Birthday to you today! I hope you are celebrating with someone?

My birthday is today, as it happens. maggisd

Maggi,
Happy Birthday!
How are you going to celebrate it?

(One more reason to NEVER argue with a chef...oh, the hairs in question were pubic...)

Ex-cook faces jail after putting hair in steak

Restaurant worker admits tampering with dissatisfied customer's meal

WEST BEND, Wis. - A former restaurant cook has pleaded guilty to inserting hairs in a steak before giving it to a dissatisfied customer.

Thanks for the link Jamie

Don Henley's contribution

The Boys of Summer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNGgCraSvbo

McCain sneaks up on Obama in money race
Republican brought in just $400,000 less than White House rival in May

McCain’s successful fundraising month
June 20: John McCain had his best fundraising month yet, raising $21.5 million in May
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25296564/

Factcheck calls Obama's campaign finance claims
"lame"

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_lame_claim_about_mccains_money.html

Chloe, Sheila: Thank you both. As it happens, I have to leave directly as my daughter is taking me to breakfast -- later this afternoon my best gal pal and I are going to see what trouble we can still get in to ... probably not as much as we might have given that it's due to hit 103 around here today ... but we'll see.
I meant to chime in much earlier on the news of the day but I got so interested in reading all the posts that I lost track of time. And now, I have to go ... :-(

KGC,

Certainly hope you feel better. I hate to see you feeling poorly. Hope Finian gives lots of slurpy "feel better" kisses.

Jamie
Thanks for the link to Jack's garden. The gate picture is beautiful and the drive by flagging story is wonderful.

And close out the tribute to summer with Ol' Blue Eyes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_PFLkSR0_4

Chloe, are you going to celebrate? Yes or no, Happy Birthday!

GORDO, have you EVER posted anything positive about Barack Obama?

Thanks Sheila
Finian is not much of a kisser but he is parked next to me in solidarity. I have sent out my minions for Pho.

Maggisd,

have a great time! pay attention to the guys. ;0) Always fun to "troll". Gets more fun at this age. I appreciate a good turn of the leg. lol

Posted by: Patsi | June 21, 2008 10:32 AM

Does Justice Thomas moonlight as a cook?

Gosh!

I'm a Pho Monster myself. I am back in the land of Pho and can't wait to find it here in Tacoma!

Obama is a good con man.

GORDO, have you EVER posted anything positive about Barack Obama?

Posted by: EuroTom | June 21, 2008 10:42 AM

Good Morning Tom,

There's always someone who feels too much danger where there is none. Problem is, will this fear of the unknown cause illness or worse? Sometimes ya just gotta lighten up.

I love Pho. Dexter is another big fan.

The Pho finder

http://www.phofever.com/directory.php

Obama Repeatedly Defecates On Progressives (re: John Barrow, FISA, NAFTA, Campaign Finance…)

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/21/obama-repeatedly-defecates-on-progressives-re-john-barrow-fisa-nafta-campaign-finance/

Thanks Katie,

LOLLOL Leave it to the internet to connect PHO Lovers everywhere!

Jack has a place for comments on his site that Jamie linked for us (for anyone who wants to ask him to come back).
http://showyourgarden.blogspot.com/

One doesn't have to be drunk on alcohol to exhibits identifiable behavior patterns, as those listed below, that one is indeed drunk on something. It is obvious BHO is drunk on himself.

THE FIVE STAGES OF DRUNKENNESS
Stage #1 -- Smart This is when you suddenly become an expert on every subject. You know all and greatly wish to express this knowledge to anyone who will listen. At this stage you are also always right. And of course the person you are talking with is very wrong. You will talk for hours trying to convince someone that you are right. This makes for an interesting argument when both parties are "smart". Two people talking, in fact, arguing about a subject neither one really knows anything about, but are convinced that they are they complete authority on the subject makes for great entertainment for those get the opportunity to listen in.

Stage #2 -- Handsome/Pretty This is when you are convinced that you are the best looking person in the entire room and everyone is looking at you. You begin to wink at perfect strangers and ask them to dance because of course they had been admiring you the whole evening. You are the center of attention, and all eyes are directed at you because you are the most beautiful thing on the face of the earth. Now keep in mind that you are still smart, so you can talk to this person who has been admiring you about any and all subjects under the sun.

Stage #3 -- Rich This is when you suddenly become the richest person in the world. You can buy drinks for the entire bar and put it on your bill because you surely have an armored truck full of your money parked behind the bar. You can also make bets in this stage. Now of course you still know all, so you will always win all your bets. And you have no concern for how much money you bet because you have all the money in the world. You will also begin to buy drinks for all the people in the bar who are admiring you because you are now the smartest, prettiest, and richest person on the face of the earth.

Stage #4 -- Bulletproof You can now pick fights with the people you have been betting money with because you cannot be hurt by anything. At this point you would go up to the boyfriend of the woman who had been admiring your beautiful self all evening and challenge him to a battle of wits for money. You have no worry about losing this battle of wits because you know all, have all the money to cover this bet, and you obviously win a fight that might erupt if he looses.

Stage #5 -- Invisible This is the final stage of drunkenness. At this point you can do absolutely anything because no one can see you. You can get up and dance on a table; you can strip down to your underwear, to impress the people who have been admiring you all evening, because the rest of the people in the room cannot see you. You are also invisible to the person whom you have picked a fight with earlier in the evening. You can walk through the streets singing at the top of your lungs (because of course you are still smart and know the tune perfectly) and no one will think anything of it because they can't see you. All your social inhibitions are gone. You can do anything, because no one will know. And you certainly won't remember !

"GORDO, have you EVER posted anything positive about Barack Obama? "

Tom -- I don't think Gordo has even posted positive things about Hillary. He casts her as someone saving up trash to throw when it's too late to change the election. Basically, he's calling her dumb as a box of rocks.

"the sour grapes crowd"

Do you have ANY vocabulary beyond a few cliches?

Funny drunk bit, Fry....fits some to a "T".....

Patsi ---------------

"He casts her as someone saving up trash to throw when it's too late to change the election. Basically, he's calling her dumb as a box of rocks."

Are there damaging videos of MO and BO? If so, does Team Clinton have them and when did they get them? Was it late in the Primary season? MO, according to Time, was asked about this by an aide in April. NQ reported on it in mid-May. This sort of thing can't just be dumped into MSM. The timing and how it's done are critical.

The claim is that the Repubs have the videos. It helps to know the "history" of this rumor.

Chloe, are you going to celebrate? Yes or no, Happy Birthday!
Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | June 21, 2008 10:42 AM

Flatus, Didn't see this until now. I'm in and out.
Thanks for the good wishes, but my birthday isn't 'til Feb. (Unless that was meant for Maggi?).

Well, Chloe, consider it early wishes. (Didn't see the quotes in your comment, so I thought it was yours, too.) No matter, enjoy!

Still very much appreciated Flatus.

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