Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

First....

But Craig how should he turn it around?
Or are we indeed in for another landslide if I listen to some people across the pond?
I just have the feeling that the repub machine will come charging at a certain time near mid summer......

Good Morning Lovely People!

Jason -- Last night my kids and I were watching "Hacking Democracy," the HBO Documentary on how Diebold voting machines can be hacked into. After all, Kerry conceded after all the exit polling said he'd won, after he said that he would fight for the votes to be counted.

Now I was just thinking, that was only about 3-4 years ago, the movie was made in 2006.

Have they got all those vote-counting software irregularities fixed yet? I don't recall seeing much on this issue lately, although people were talking about it a lot in 2004 and 2005. Now all is quiet on the voting machine front.

Maybe McCain has a good reason not to worry?

So, the media is appearing to have made their choice before the show even starts? Again.

This summer will tell us more about our 'so called' main stream media, and our election process, than it will about McCain.

If the media continue to slant their coverage, then the question is why. The same question some have been asking since January. So many unanswered questions, but the writing is on the wall.

'The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.' Oh, lord.

Good Morning Lovely People! Alicia Knight | June 23, 2008 6:41 AM

Alicia,
It always feels like a ray of sunshine enters the room with you, but I'm sure you've heard that before.

Are those voting machines controlled on a state level only?

Currently there is no government agency that regulates the voting machine industry in the United States
http://www.tikkun.org/magazine/specials/article.2006-04-10.1693298872

What equipment will Americans use to cast ballots in 2008?
http://www.verifiedvoting.org/

George Carlin
The Owners of This Country

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dY4WlxO6i0

RIP

Maybe McCain has a good reason not to worry?

Posted by: Alicia Knight | June 23, 2008 6:41 AM

LOL....Maybe so.
I do sense a real weird vibe form the repub side. They seem so silenced and doing things on the low. It is not worrying for me, but I do have the sense that at a certain point they will come charging to the net....If I was happy about the democratic nominee, I would feel otherwise.....

@Chloe: Don´t be to sure about that. The media is pulling a curtain. Hopefully we will not fall for it. However, with the American people you never know. I mean.... exhibit A: Hillary Clinton.

On an whole other note, my dad send me a videoclip of view co-host Joy Behar on Larry King. I have banned CNN, but seen as dad sent it, I watched. LOL
Why do some people always feel that they can talk for everyone else? Joy, twice said that she absolutely knows that the Hillary Women (!!!!) will definitely vote for BO. No doubt.... I just don´t get it. For me it is not about the vote or the women of Hillary or whatever...The thing that strikes me is that certain people always seem to have the audacity to talk for a whole group. Stop it allready.......

I think Craig was about the only one saying not to count McCain out the last time. I know the MSM is trying to spin every molehill of an increase in BO's numbers into a mountain, but that's not gonna fix BO's problems.

The more BO flip-flops on issues, the more folks see that he can't think on his feet & is simply good at reading a teleprompter, the more they see his arrogance and ineptitude, the easier it will be for the GOP to crush him in the general.

I will never vote for BO. He would be a disaster as a prez & he shows, increasingly, that he is untrustworthy.

It doesn't matter who he picks as veep, nothing is going to solve the problems of his alliances, his record & his character.

Once Hil'ry starts spewing the BO garbage, I will have no trouble voting for McCain.

I have to say that I agree with Bill Kristol. Yikes!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/23/opinion/23kristol.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

obama's fund raising has taken a steep dive.
i guess the young supporters have maxed
out thier credit cards

Thanks Chloe!

Now for the voting machines -- I think it is the local boards of elections that decide what to use. I know this is the case in my own county, where we have a mixture of machines. In each precinct there is an Optical Scanning machine, which reads paper ballots marked by the voters. But in the last couple of election cycles, each precinct also has one Diebold touch screen machine. The touch screens are there supposedly for ADA requirements (although I don't see how these help people with disabilities in the act of voting). The electors at some of the precincts seems to badger people in to voting the touch screens.

My son cast his first vote as a 17 year old during a special election in December. The elector at my precinct has long since given up on getting me to vote electronic, but she went after my son with her heavy-handed cajoling trying to convince him that's the "cool" way to vote. Do I have to tell you how proud I was of him when he stood his ground and politely told her he wanted a paper ballot?

Those paper ballots are so important in our local elections which have had razor-thin margins and frequent recounts. If only 1 percent of the voters decided to vote with the touch screens that could lead to a remarkably different result.

My friends on the local Board of Elections jump up and down and swear that I am wrong about this -- but I still think they've been lead down the primrose path by the Diebold vendors.

Good morning Blue! Psst -- I know I'm not supposed to say this, but I was thinking the other day that since we've already gotten though the worst of it with 8 years if Bush -- how bad could it be with McCain? Not that I'm going to vote for McCain, but I just don't feel the Obamalove yet.

Good morning Blue! Psst -- I know I'm not supposed to say this, but I was thinking the other day that since we've already gotten though the worst of it with 8 years if Bush -- how bad could it be with McCain? Not that I'm going to vote for McCain, but I just don't feel the Obamalove yet.

Posted by: Alicia Knight | June 23, 2008 8:24 AM

I said this right before HRC conceded. It got me really bad responses, but I didn´t care. I spoke for myself only. I have had 8 years of GWB, another 4 with JmC is not a problem.... I will not vote for him, I will sit this GE out, but I will also not ink BO....Even if HRC begged me to vote BO, I would really compliment for begging, but I would say: No Thanks!

"Joy, twice said that she absolutely knows that the Hillary
Women (!!!!) will definitely vote for BO. No doubt....The thing that strikes me is that certain people always seem to have the audacity to talk for a whole group." Posted by: Jason | June 23, 2008 7:59 AM

Wishful thinking?

You're right Jason. It takes a lot of nerve to speak for everyone. I just think the media knows if it says the same thing over and over, that many will begin to believe it. Posted by: Jason | June 23, 2008 7:59 AM

Jason -- Charging the net later on for sure -- I get the same feeling. Oh and I saw that Larry King with Joy Behar. She annoys me. She never stood up for Rosie on the View.

Some women will suck it up and cross the Obamabridge. Some of my friends have already done so -- even some who have maxed out to Hillary. But there are also an awful lot who haven't and I don't even see them taking steps on that path. If anything they are more pissed off than ever. Lots more are like you saying they will sit out the GE.

sorry Jason,
delete that last posted by Jason. Don't know why it's there.

@Alicia: True. Two of my friends, both male have also crossed over, and they find it strange that I will not....

@Chloe: They will say it over and over. the scary thing is that lots and lost of people indeed believe it. You know why? They still live in the age that news was actually NEWS, and not a subjective bunch of crap! That to me is sad and scary.

So Craig do not worry...I see the silence before the storm that will enter around the end of August...

ps: I am watching Serena now, and I am not too happy about her play!

Obama BIRTH MYSTERY, cont.

"Following up on previous posts ... that have raised questions about the authenticity of Barack Obama’s “birth certificate,” I became more curious about Barack’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (known as “Ann”) ... "

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/obama-birth-mystery-cont/

"They still live in the age that news was actually NEWS, and not a subjective bunch of crap! That to me is sad and scary." Jason

Jason,
I was one of those people before this election. No more. There's got to be plenty who no longer are suffering from that illusion. If for no other reason, this election has been good to point out the truth about the media.

mornin' all,

Man, oh, man, talk about storms Saturday and yesterday! Took LP up to Cleveland to go to basketball camp and ran through abolute frog choking rain on I76 and 480. There was also hail up to close to dime size at LP's grandparents' house yesterday - he took off his shirt and ran around in the pouring rain and hial like a 6 year old and had a blast. I understand there was a tornado warning in North Canton yesterday. Corey & Dex, hope you didn't have much in the way of storms.

So sorry to hear about George Carlin - we don't need less comedy in the world.

"The thing that strikes me is that certain people always seem to have the audacity to talk for a whole group." Posted by: Jason | June 23, 2008 7:59 AM
Wishful thinking?
You're right Jason. It takes a lot of nerve to speak for everyone. I just think the media knows if it says the same thing over and over, that many will begin to believe it. "

Jason & Chloe -- exactly right.

Storms and hail in one part of the country. 400 wild fires and scorching in California.

Several posts lately bring back such good memories! First, Tylenol's prom postings, now Pogo and basketball camp. My son went to football camp at the Univ. of Colorado one summer and had a blast. (He did come back dispirited when he realized that most of the pros who visited were pumping up with steroids, though.) But overall it was a great experience!

(He did come back dispirited when he realized that most of the pros who visited were pumping up with steroids, though.) Patsi

Were the steroids that obvious to him?

Is the Democrats' Message Flawed?
http://blogs.wsj.com/politicalperceptions/2008/06/22/obama-will-decide-is-the-democrats%e2%80%99-message-flawed/

Patsi, when I was a teen I spent two summers in the North Woods of Ontario at a YMCA canoe camp. We would go from lake to lake portaging with our canoes and a couple of weeks of supplies. Often we would go for days without seeing another human being. This was back when the water was so clean that if you were thirsty, you stuck your cup in the lake and had a drink. Wonderful experience!

And when our daughters were teens in the 70s, they both spent a summer with the Conservation Corps way out in 'old' Nevada busting trails, fixing fences, and all that fun stuff. They still talk about it.

"Were the steroids that obvious to him?"

Chloe -- that was back in '88 or '89....and some people actually talked about it then...which "body booster" was better etc. Aside from that, he said that you could pretty much tell the difference between the great big players who were just big and muscled, and the ones with the unusually thick necks, usually some other things like very poil skin and that sort of thing. But mainly, it was a topic of "inside" conversation.

blue, before you change to vote for McCain because Hil'ry might start spewing the Obama garbage, listen to the McCain garbage. He's at least as bad. And talk about flip flops - geez the guy could be made in China in bright colors and sell for a buck at Target. Straight talk got left somewhere behind that damn bus - probably just at the last curve.

Alicia, can't agree with you on the Kristol article. I've seen the ad several times, and it strikes me as a pretty effective ad against the somewhat cavalier and in my opinion utter failure of McCain and Kristol to recognize that this is a war of aggression on our part that shows signs of ebbing and flowing as far as the violence levels go, but shows no signs of approaching anything that could be considered an end and a situation that McCain described where American servicement are safely standing watch. And Kristol's argument fails to consider that the policies enacted by one president affect the next and the next, particulary with respect to the military. Yeah, yeah, volunteer military and all that, but that's not the point of the ad.

Flatus -- that sounds like a fantastic camp. I went every summer to a nifty church camp. It was great for the day, some bible classes, etc. Then at night it got a little evangelical for me. For me, even as a kid, it seemed weird to dedicate your life to Christ every night over and over. IE: walk down the aisle and promise to stay Christian. So once I did that at camp when I was about ten (I'd already been baptised in my home church), I wouldn't do it again. One counselor tried to convince me to, but I just said I had already made that promise, and nothing had changed. Ha.

My favorite times were pre-dawn when you had a silent meditation time, walk out in the hills, that smelled of sage, and just read the bible or think about things. For me, just looking at the early morning and smelling the sage was spiritual enough!

I think many of these camps now have become relentless about the evangelical side to the camps.

Here's the rub on the ....Already weathered 8 years Bush, what's 4more years with McCain

Things are never so good they can't get better, and never so bad they can't get worse.

If the republicans stay in power, I can not foresee any possiblilty for improvement......just saying....I base this on what they have proven they can do...screw up on multiple levels repeatedly.

Obama Camp Closely Linked With Ethanol
Published: June 23, 2008
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/23/us/politics/23ethanol.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=slogin

Sen McCain should spend about three weeks visiting military training centers and home bases of deployed units. He needs to fully understand the 'quality' level of new accessions, the adequacy of their training, and how they and their families cope once they arrive at their permanent organizations.

I think it would be an eye opener for him and would allow him to speak authoritatively on military personnel and family issues.

Like most public speakers, he does much better talking about subjects he is totally familiar with. And that competence allows him to debunk, in detail, claims by other candidates when they are in error.

And, since this thread was about the press, it was nice seeing The Times public editor dumping on Maureen, and the Times, for her tainted columns on Mrs Clinton:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/22/opinion/22pubed.html

Run, Bob, run.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/22/gop-frets-barr-could-play_n_108517.html

McCain is the new Dole - well, minus the creepy-but-adorable Viagra advertisements, wit, and charm.

so here i've been thinking i was the only one.....i have been a yellow dog dem all my life, but i just can't (yet) bring myself to support BHO. even if bill, hillary and chelsea asked me personally.
the media is trying real hard to ignor BHO weaknesses. it makes me gag.
i think they (the media) are ignoring mccain. i wouldn't count him out yet, lets see what happens in the debates.

Sen McCain should spend about three weeks visiting military training centers and home bases of deployed units. He needs to fully understand the 'quality' level of new accessions, the adequacy of their training, and how they and their families cope once they arrive at their permanent organizations. Flatus http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/06/another-mccain-summer-fade.html#comment-106264

Flatus,
Have you thought of leaving McCain a post on his contact site. I swear I think they look at those things. My theory is that if you recommend it, others will to, and they pay attention. Your idea is good and sounds worth passing on to him.
http://www.johnmccain.com/Contact/

Sen. McCain offers $300 million prize for new auto battery

The presumed Republican nominee is proposing a $300 million government prize to whoever can develop an automobile battery that far surpasses existing technology.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080623/D91FQ6L81.html

Jack sent me an email with these space pictures and I don't think he'd mind me sharing them on the site.

"Stanley Kubrick would envey these. They are so 2001.

http://www.texasjim.com/NASApix/NASA%20pix.htm

Jack"

chloe, they mentioned the battery prize proposal this morning on the tube. I have to agree with whoever said that the winner is probably in the works now, and also that the prize will pale in comparison to the wild profits the "winner" will receive when the technology is adopted by the automakers. Look at what's happened in the small battery world since the days of carbon-zinc batteries and incandescent flashlight bulbs. An AAflashlight used to last about an hour, maybe an hour and 15 nminutes before the battery was dead. Now with Lithium ion batteries and LEDs, you get up to 12 hours. A more efficient, higher capacity deep cycle heavy battery can't be too far down the pike. Had to laugh when Mike Barnacle (I thnk he's the one who said it) said he can just picture McCain as the Energizer Bunny.

Of course that's just one option - as far as ethanol goes, we just need to look to Brazil - the sugar cane ethanol they produce is 4 times more efficient (5 times when prduced using best practices) than the corn ethanol we produce. They use a 20-25% mix now, and the air in the major cities has improved remarkably. Obama's position on this is IMHO completely wrong - it penalizes the efficent (in the form of tariffs) at our expense and to the benefit (through subsidies) of the agribusiness giants, driving food prices up in the process. Great idea - if your aim is to enrich the corn belt rather than increase energy efficiency..

pogo - I will vote for the devil I know (McCain) before I will vote for the devil I don't know (BO).

As for this weekend's thread, I really don't like BO's re-branding of the office. Something very late 1930s Germany about it.

"Patsi it's too early in my day to play with you, I'm still on my first mug of coffee. "

Translation: I know he's a phony backtracker and don't care.

Chloe,

Those are spectacular photos...do you know if there is a website that offers more of them?

Blue,

Your reference would be more historically accurate if you said the early 1930's.

I'm curious, what do you think will be the difference in the types of hell these two "devils" create for us?

mccain hell-sureme court appointees
BHO hell-the disillusionment of all those people looking for 'change'

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080623/pl_politico/11263

Says Ross, "The more people fall in love with a candidate, the more they need to know their track record and their real stand on issues."

We need a "Watchdogs of Democracy" part II for the stellar job the media did at coddling BO.

"mccain hell-sureme court appointees
BHO hell-the disillusionment of all those people looking for 'change'

Nelson nails it....

Chloe, Those are spectacular photos...do you know if there is a website that offers more of them? Posted by: Bear

Aren't they unbelievable! Jack noted at the top of them that his "friend's granddaughter who works for NASA sent him those pictures - I am assuming the last picture is Hurricane Dean - I am going to drop her a note to make sure."
http://www.texasjim.com/NASApix/NASA%20pix.htm

blue, I agree that McCain is the devil we know - except for all the flipping he's been doing lately. Didn't like the first version, don't like the new one. And while Obama may be the devil I don't know to an extent, I do see him as the lesser of 2 evils. Some choice.

It's summertime (been that way for a while here in Austin...but now it's official).

If there's one thing we (should) have learned as a result of the last raft of election cycles it's that there's very little to suggest _any_ correlation between the way things look at this time of year and the way they will look when the polls are actually opened. At this point, it's all primarily grist for the political junkies' mill. [And, yeah, I count myself among that number...despite my own "analysis".]

Between now and convention time, I think the most we will be able to intuit is a little bit about where the campaigns will position themselves, i.e. what buttons they plan to hit, and at least get a first inkling of how the "independent" groups will "behave"...

"there's very little to suggest _any_ correlation between the way things look at this time of year and the way they will look when the polls are actually opened." Artie | June 23, 2008 1:07 PM

Are you saying the polls mean absolutely nothing now? At the beginning of the primaries, the polls were way off. But doesn't most everyone knows these two candidates by now, or else they strictly vote party.

chloe, some of the polls are probably very close to what the vote will look like in Nov. Problem is figuring out whichones are closest to right. I suggest waiting until the day after the nation votes in Nov. to figure that out.

Thanks Pogo. I knew that, but thought this guy knew something I didn't know. I've watched them long enough to know how they fluctuate, and that things can happen that change them quickly.

As you say, we won't know 'til after the fact.

well, while we've nothing much to talk about on this slow summer news day other than the same ole same ole, has anyone else been daydreaming about the possibility (not probability mind you) of w's and dick's impeachment and how the elections could be impacted? the house hearing may stumble upon something felonious (falsifying federal documents, lying to congress, etc.) in their usual laurel and hardy way. pelosi would likely recuse herself from voting or leading a process which would gain her the presidency. but would she step aside for bho in nov? any thoughts or summertime dreams or s'posings?

Sounds like common sense based on historical inability of the pollsters to get it right to me. My sense is that there are lots of undecided folks out there, or at least folks who won't say what their decision is, and the campaigns and 527s will have some effect. If Gallup's daily tracking poll is a fairly close approximation, this could go either way. Of course the state based polls make it look like JM will have a hard time getting the EC votes he'd need to win, but hey, if the polls are even close to right there are ten states that could go either way.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/

Obama and Clinton to campaign together on Friday in Unity, NH where they each received 107 votes. Wonder how they arranged that? : )

p.s. and where's whiskeyjack when we need him to pick up the pace on this lazy day? at least to shoot down with flare my abovementioned ideas.

Article on Unity get together

http://www.startribune.com/nation/20658559.html

patd - nice daydream. Jimi would say Rainy day, dream away. If Kucinich's articles advance I'll be amazed.

jamie, coulda been worse - it coulda been Dixville Notch. w/NH gray right now and first to vote and announce in Nov., it don't surprise me none. Big things, small steps, all that jazz.

Well, here in IL there are several politicians whose political obituaries have been writen several times over. So I don't think that Sen. Obama or his team will slack off.

And I'm sure that this is true in many other states as well.

I'll wait until November to write obits.

Oh, you folks who are going to vote for McCain are going to get McBush. Of course, if you're independently wealthy, then no problem.

But it's a damned BIG problem for the rest of us.

My electricity, in the great state of TX, just went from .125 to .159 per kWh, & that's the lower fixed rate. Add that onto the price of food and car gas, & this is serious!

tt

If Kucinich's articles advance I'll be amazed.
Posted by: pogo | June 23, 2008 2:11 PM

stranger things have happened since this time last year (john mc political dead and resurrected? clinton=racist? etc.)

wonder how many repubs have considered the political value of hopping on that impeachment bus before they get thrown under it?

the layout of the back channel list is well done.

I hope that those who have felt aggrieved don't abandon Craig's blog because of the feisty primary/caucus season...

Chloe, you've done a week's worth of good work in less than a day. Good on you!

patd, stranger things have indeed happened - but with this congress? On Nancy's watch? As I said, I'll be amazed (pleased, but amazed). Well, if today is any indication, this coud be one long, boring summer.

We should all get together and plan and construct our own backyard windmills. The electricity is not going to get any cheaper. With cars using also, where are they going to get the additional power? blackouts, will probably become more than ever. Just one of those hairbrained ideas on a hot summer day.

Julie

I received a mailing from the annointed one last week. I wrote "return to sender" and put it back in the mail.

We seem stuck with two flip-flopping candidates for November. ugh

julie, great idea on the windmills - why not?

Sorry to hear that Dody Gooman died - I did not realize she was as old -93 - as she was. Funny lady, more loss of laughter.

George Carlin and Dody Goodman. That's 2.

~RIP~

tt

Brain,

If Imus catches any crap for that comment, considering the fact that a black columnist for ESPN was quietly suspended for saying" rooting for the Celtics is like calling Hitler a victim" would be total BS. It should be noted that when Imus made his nappy headed ho comment about the Rutgers team, Jemele Hill was up front about how Imus should be fired and jailed and how no apology was good enough.

Since she made her comments, we have no Al Sharpton outrage, a meek apology from her and it seems the matter has been quickly forgotten...

good afternoon gang....

I wanted to post at noontime, but had to shut this machine down in a hurry with some spectacular thunderstorms moving into my area....

yeah.... it's gonna be a long summer politically wise.... with all the fireworks happening in the primary season.... the GE is shaping up to be a snoozer so far.... but I bet things will liven up again come September....

I will really miss George Carlin.... LOVED his recent HBO special....

A little light reading on one of my favorite political subjects.

http://www.slate.com/id/2193957/

And for those of you who thought Fred Thompson was dead, a little more light reading about the Boumediene decision. He's not dead, just brain dead.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/06/boumediene_a_supremely_problem.html

well, it looks likea good time to mosey along. rain has moved about halfway from the OH river toward here in the past half hour, and I'd just as soon get home before it arrives. everyone have just a wunnerful evening.

Pogo,

That article explains why McCoy took over as DA...lol

Here is what it looks like now, 8 years later these folks have maintained it and now are using it as a park, I drove by last night and took this picture
http://showyourgarden.blogspot.com/

Jack posted some new pictures on his site for anyone interested.

Jamie.....you were right..Obama dropped the new fake presidential campaign seal.....

Pogo: Thanks for the Fred Thompson reference. I couldn't get past the sentence where he called John Yoo a Constitutional scholar. Bwahaha

Craig posted a George Carlin video on his facebook site today. This link should take you right to it.

George Carlin Talks About "Stuff"
http://www.facebook.com/posted.php?id=17347137146&share_id=21650875058#s21650875058

Jeez,

It's only the second day of summer and you are writing off McCain. Just remember McCain knows from years of experience that you don't want to peak too soon. Which is very nearly what Obama did in the primaries.

Just make sure you do an occasional blog on all the goofy stuff the Obamatrons do this summer. I want to know how many campaign workers hook up and have babies, things like that.

And on a personal note I have to report that even people driving cars with Obama bumper stickers are not exhibiting courtesy while driving, one of those Obamatrons cut me off today. Of course, if it was a car with a Hillary sticker, they probably would have run me completely off the road and left me for dead. Heartless liberals.

Hey All
Slow lazy day,sure is hot and steamy down here in Florida today.Got done with work early and settled around the pool,dogs too....So lazy.Hey wasn't Dody Goodman in Mary Hartman?Trying to place her.

"If Imus catches any crap for that comment, considering the fact that a black columnist for ESPN was quietly suspended for saying" rooting for the Celtics is like calling Hitler a victim" would be total BS."

Bear, I'd be interested in your take...also harbor's. When I read the transcript, my reaction was that he was referring to the fact that black men are more in danger of being picked up by the cops. I have no idea if that was his meaning, but that was my initial take.

Hillary Clinton released this video today, thanking her supporters and saying she still needs help. If you'd like to help her retire her campaign debt -- which doesn't include the money she lent to her campaign as she views that as her own investment -- go to HillaryClinton.com

Update: Hillary has $26 million in her general campaign account that can't be used for the primary. Those who contributed to it can be asked to re-designate their contributions to Obama's general campaign or perhaps to her Senate re-election campaign, but that's not clear. [More...]

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/6/23/162636/265

Well wonders never cease, I met an AA woman today doing the quality check on the Obmama book that we printed and bound. She told me she wanted Hillary and that she still wasn't convinced about Obamas abilities.

I don't know, maybe it is just working class people in manufacturing jobs here is Mass, but I just am not hearing any excitement about Obama. Some are saying they think that he is going to win, but they really don't think he will change or improve things much, or at all.

Aint enough Viagra in the world to make that happen.

You some sort of expert on Viagra? Figures.

"...maybe it is just working class people in manufacturing jobs here is Mass, but I just am not hearing any excitement about Obama." Posted by: Bowmanc

It's working class people everywhere, not just your state Bow..
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"Those who contributed to it can be asked to re-designate their contributions to Obama's general campaign or perhaps to her Senate re-election campaign, but that's not clear." Posted by: Lynn C June 23, 2008 6:10 PM

Lynn,
I don't see how they can possibly pass it on to Obama. Not everyone would agree to that, especially if they don't support him.

My line of work in printing and binding books. We do it for all the major and some minor publishing houses. This is old style manufacturing. It isn't sexy. We have huge web presses that print the signatures that are gathered on the binding lines and either have soft covers (paperbacks) or are cased in (hard cover books). It is hard work and right now it is hot as can be in our printing plants. Few are air conditioned. We put ink on paper and it isn't always easy to get it just right. Printing is still one of those processes that are part science, part craft and some luck.

So we have just about finished up printing & binding the Obama book. It will be shipping from our printing plant this week. I consider it a fluff celebrity picture book. Buy lots of them, keep our presses rolling.

http://www.amazon.com/Rise-Barack-Obama-Pete-Souza/dp/1600781632/002-4158974-1943232?SubscriptionId=0525E2PQ81DD7ZTWTK82

Bow -- back in my magazine publishing days, there was nothing I loved more than spending the day at our printers, watching the presses, binding etc. And I loved the ink smell.

john yoo is a constitutional scholar in the way that john gotti is a criminology scholar.

Patsi,

You may have loved that smell of ink, but the EPA doesn't. That smell is solvents, AKA VOC's (volatile organic compounds) and they aren't real good for you. We have been working to reduce the our use of VOC's to the bare minimum. It's good for the environment and for our workers and it is the right thing to do.

Hey Craig,
I wouldn't be writing an obit on McCain quite yet. Here are some trends and facts that will play hard by the end of the summer...

1. Americans are now very aware of the flip-flopping and contradictions of BHO. His rhetorical sincereity has been seriously tarnished. Every month a new stumble further erodes his credibility.

2. Obama's energy policy is rather lame. There are more than 60 billion barrels of fossil fuel in and around the US. Even a quarter of that extracted would provide a serious and adequate bridge to energy independence once alternitives are perfected. Obama was there on TV supporting Corn, while cellulosic energy is key Obama ignores. Polls do not support Obama's position. Obama wants to sue OPEC, reduce consumption in the face of serious economic competition and a falling dollar. Coupled with Obama's economic plan, his approach will lead us downwards, not upwards. Higher corporate taxes and reduced energy consumption will make us less competitive. A mixture of drilling, refineries the Democrats thwart, clean coal, carbon sequestering, nuclear, cellulosic, shale and tar oil extraction, solar, wind and conservation along with higher cafe standards in concert get us out of this mess. Obama is beholden ideology as is Pelosi.

2. Iraq is improving despite Obama calling it lost. By election time, this will indisputable even for MSNBC. McCain will look correct and Obama wrong. Even worse is that the EU approves sanctions on Iran while Obama rejected them. Most proliferation experts say the world must act now to curb Iran having talked quite a bit to Iran. By election Obama will look rather silly as Iran declares support for Obama, the new American Gorby, that will destroy America from within. Yep, that's from the Iranian Press. The most pathetic example of Obama judgment is Pakistan. He called Pakistan complete chaos under Musharraf and blasted his "deals" with militants. Perhaps, Obama isn't reading the papers.

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/darticlen.asp?xfile=data/subcontinent/2008/June/subcontinent_June827.xml§ion=subcontinent&col=

AQ Khan has been linked to spreading advanced weapon designs to NK and Iran. Militants are blowing up girls schools, beheading civilians and generally throwing Pakistan into real chaos. This has lead to declining secuirty in Afghanistan and greater instability in Pakistan. Their government has told the US not to strike there any more as Bush continues selective strikes. Obama's advocacy for the removal of Musharraf, the support of the corrupt moderates and telegraphing military strikes (strikes by Bush he refuses to applaud) has proven a worse plan than anything the Bush administration advocated. The militants are now attacking India from Kashmir as the Taliban without Musharraf in charge of the military inflitrate the army. Clearly, Obama was wrong about Pakistan, Iran and what our allies think, Iraq and even Syria. Despite Pelosi, Brez, Reid and Carter talking with Assad, it now appears Syria was working with NK and Iran to further Iran's push for nuclear weapons. When Assad refused to talk seriously, Israel struck and destroyed a new secret nuclear project in Syria. Only Hillary Clinton supported Israel as Obama remained silent. Now BO is trying hard to convince Jews in America he has any record worth voting for regarding Israel. To date, there is NO proof Obama's claim he is the strongest supporter of Israel and not the typical BO BS.

3. BO has talked several times about cutting defense and has little strategy in Africa. In Latin America, the Bolivian leader has suffered political trouble and Hugo was forced to call for FARC to renounce violence as a FARC laptop showed what support Hugo had given them. Interpol has vaildated the contents of the laptop. Meanwhile Obama has signal cutting military aid to Columbia and Mexico and the protectionism that BO supported during the primary, calling Hillary a NAFTA lover. This would hurt the very third world Obama says he supports. And of course, Obama now declares he loves free-trade. What a joke that his supporters ignore. Obama will say anything as the media gives him a free pass.....

4. Moving the DNC to Chicago, a foolish attempt to modify the great seal, a lame attempt to repackage Michelle, pretending he never said he would talk to Ahmadinejad, forsaking public financing, erecting a committee of security advisors to counter the complete failure of his primary advisors, his gaffes and focus on NOT BUSH rather than detailed plans to move forward, spin an image that looks absurd against that initial image of an honest, high road, bipartisan Obama of many months ago.

So it maybe that the pathetic media will further support Obama by firing on McCain all summer, but the issues such as economy, energy, national security and character, do not play so well for Obama as November approaches. Of course, Obama supporters tend to be McCain's best weapons. As the ads begin and the issues debated. Obama will have little clout to stop the Left. Republicans are holding their fire for now. The summer will roll forward. Will the economy go down? Will oil prices rise? Will Iraq improve? Will Pakistan stumble? I rather doubt events will favor Obama who has built his central thrust on Bush, Iraq, a terrible economy and his sterling character. I expect these cards won't play well for him by the end of the summer......

Of course, you would never guess that by watching TV. And the fairness doctrine? What American can support such rubbish in limiting our free speech? Coupled with the new Freedom of the Press bill, what the Left is planning will seriously erode the intention of the Constitution. We will see a Liberal assault on LIberty.

The only sane place in this pathetic mess is center. In such a climate, divided government is the best hedge against ideological extremism.

Split the ticket

Save the Democrats from themselves...

I worked a few months in the bindery oncet......nice place when the collator, the folder, the cutter, and all the presses were running.......lots of rhythmn.........

"You may have loved that smell of ink, but the EPA doesn't. "

I'm sure you're right, Bow! I seem to love the smell of all sorts of killers -- ink, gasoline, cigars! ROFL!

Plus, I didn't have to work around that smell. I remember when my sister ran a fabric shop decades ago. I went to work for her and literally got sick when the new bolts arrived....

anyone remember the smell of the mimeograph test papers in the fifties?

Sturge,

Toxic substances

Both the isopropanol and the methanol found in ditto solvents are toxic substances. These chemicals can cause a host of medical problems when humans are improperly exposed. Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) guidelines recommend the use of personal protective equipment during exposure to methanol,[citation needed] however, most[who?] chemists work with methanol and isopropanol wearing only medical exam grade gloves, goggles and a working fume hood as the chief, no-ingested or inhaled reaction with methanol is limited skin irritation.[citation needed]

The aroma of pages fresh off the Ditto machine was a memorable feature of school life for those who attended in the ditto machine era. A pop culture reference to this is to be found in the film Fast Times At Ridgemont High. At one point a teacher hands out a dittoed exam paper and every student in the class immediately lifts it to his or her nose and inhales.

Another reference is by Bill Bryson in his memoir The Life and Times of the Thunderbolt Kid. He writes, "Of all the tragic losses since the 1960s, mimeograph paper may be the greatest. With its rapturously fragrant, sweetly aromatic pale blue ink, mimeograph paper was literally intoxicating. Two deep drafts of a freshly run-off mimeograph worksheet and I would be the education system’s willing slave for up to seven hours."[1] Bryson appears have confused dittos with mimeographs, however. The latter have no particular odor.

Concern about the toxicity of the ink and students' habit of sniffing the pages contributed to the decision of some school districts to abandon ditto machines in favor of other technologies.

Whether or not the surge is "working," the fact is that American lives are being lost, still, for a war that should never have been started. And the cost of that senseless war in lives and in dollars cannot continue.

In addition, lives are being lost within the United States every day due to Mr. Bush -- the reduced capacity of the various protective agencies has caused people to die due to bad beef, infected tomatoes or lead-based toys, among other things. And the smaller agencies, populated with unqualified Bush loyalists has endangered us further, as evidenced by the response to Katrina. Too, of course, there were less National Guard members available to help here when they were needed.

In addition, if Mr. McSame is elected, the Supreme Court's membership will shift drastically to the radical right, taking away our rights, whether we lose the opportunity to choose abortions or the right to express our opinions (except in "free speech" zones). The wealthiest 1% will continue to do very well, while the rest of us will continue to lose ground.

Yes, we've survived, more or less, Mr. Bush's excesses and irresponsiblity. But our coffers and our resources are nearly depleted, our reputation is in shreds and our spirit is drained; fewer people are willing to serve the country because of Mr. Bush's drastic disservice to the veterans who survive.

We need a change. We cannot afford four more years of Mr. McSame and his inclination to rape and plunder the nation.

rain and thunjerous hooji-hoo down in caroline........

bow.....i dont remember getting high from them but i sniffed them big time and can still almost remember the smell.......now I spray cabinets with nitro cellulose which is definitely death dealing and doesnt even smell good......ah, the pleasures of being a grown-up........

More bad news on the FISA front

http://balkin.blogspot.com/2008/06/guide-to-new-fisa-bill-part-ii.html

George Carlin: Favorite truthteller...RIP. He probably got tired of fighting bad press and stupidity.

Nick; 8:48 am....she loves me like a rock... I like it lots, very apropos.

Gordo; 9:02 am... Has he ever taken the pledge in connection with citizenship? Was Hawaii a state when he was born and at that time didn't one take one's father's nationality?

Patsi; 9:12 am.... It's true, if the press says it often enough, people believe it, and you know they have to push the candidate they've touted and protected all these months.

Chloe; 9:24 am.... I don't think the message is flawed just the messenger, but the press has to protect their "pick" so it will be anything but him.

I just listened to Robert Reich moaning about Bill Clinton's lukewarm endorsement of BO's Enviro plan. If I was Bill Clinton and they had called me a racist, I would tell them to take a flying leap.

politicallypissed,

There is also a saying, "Damming with faint praise" Bill Clintons endorsement is most likely an example of this.

if carlin was your favorite truth teller, you'd probably like carlin's favorite truth teller, Lenny Bruce......(dont dismiss him from crap which has been put forth about him........if you get a chance listen to the Carnegie Hall concert in ' 62 or the Berkeley Concert released on Zappa's bizarre records........

Sturge,

you might have called it a Buzz. No question why there were always volunteers to run the mimeographs.

Lenny got tired of fighting bad press, stupidity and being busted by the police........

"Damming with faint praise" Bill Clintons endorsement is most likely an example of this.
Posted by: Bowmanc Author Profile Page | June 23, 2008 8:49 PM

Or, maybe Bill doesn't like BO's Environmental Plant that much.
No telling.

Politically Pissed

All of the above is why I put up as a memorial one of Carlin's angrier bits "politicians" about why he didn't vote.

http://jdurward.blogspot.com

Jamie, that is a really nice memorial you set up for Carlin.
I'm going to miss him. And I hadn't seen that video.
You show him born 1927. You sure it's not '37? They said he was 71 or something like that.

politicallypissed --------------------

Hawaii Statehood: August 21, 1959

Barack Obama DOB: August 4, 1961

See these links for possible problems:

1) Obama’s BIG Birth Certificate PROBLEM

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/obamas-certificate-of-birth-the-problems/

2) Obama Birth Certificate BAMBOOZLE, cont.

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/obama-birth-certificate-bamboozle-cont/

"Oh, you folks who are going to vote for McCain are going to get McBush. Of course, if you're independently wealthy, then no problem.But it's a damned BIG problem for the rest of us.My electricity, in the great state of TX, just went from .125 to .159 per kWh, & that's the lower fixed rate. Add that onto the price of food and car gas, & this is serious!"

Tiptoe -- I agree. I can't vote for McCain....but I do not believe that Obama is going to solve ONE problem. Not even one.

"anyone remember the smell of the mimeograph test papers in the fifties?"

Hate to admit it but I loved that smell too....

Gordo --m Jeez, you bring such lame stuff to the table. Nobody cares about Obama's birth certificate. I CARE ABOUT HIS PHONY CLAIMS THAT HE IS "NEW" POLITICS.

"But it's a damned BIG problem for the rest of us." Tiptoe

I appreciate that comment....but even the "rich" are starting to get screwed,and that is really a problem for the Republicans!

Only the ancient rich will stay with the republicans this time around.... at least that is my guess

Patsi, I bet he'll drop that tag line...as he get further along....he was packaging the goods.....he was the "new-comer" ...actually I think he used it to his advantage...

Now to the second phase..."unity"

Patsi...

I saw your earlier post about the new Imus debacle. I have today's show Tivo'd, but haven't had a chance to watch it yet. Will certainly give my opinion after I see it in context.

Having watched clips on newscasts, I can say that there's a better than good chance he was referring to the tendency of law enforcement - especially in the south - to be more inclined to stop and/or arrest black men. I think there's also a better than good chance that, if I'm right, there are those who will do everything they can to make people believe he meant something entirely different.

Oh...and I loved the smell of freshly mimeographed papers, too! Between that and chasing the 'fog machine', who knows how many brain cells I burned!?!

Obama campaign claims suspect "birth certificate" as genuine item

"In response to mounting media questions about the failure of the Barack Obama presidential campaign to produce the presumptive Democratic nominee's birth certificate, an official spokesman of the campaign has endorsed as genuine the image of a document purporting to be his "birth certificate." But some who have examined that image in high resolution claim inconsistencies and irregularities which suggest that the purported document is a forgery. Its high profile use by the campaign, they claim, suggests an attempt to conceal the truth of Obama's birth circumstances and citizenship qualifications from the American people. "

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12932.htm

Third phase: pummel the opponent

Forth phase: appointments

Fifth Phase: look around, decide who has already screwed up too much to stay.

Sixth Phase: declare a new national Holiday

Seventh phase: Talk about doing something

Eighth phase : Throw out fist pitch at Wrigley Field. : )

I was hoping this place would have the mimeographed scent for you guys , but they didn't...maybe something else? play- doh? saw-dust?

http://www.perpetualkid.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=274

Bowmanc, Sturgeone..... I know of Lenny Bruce, but was too young to care at the time. Carlin brought it home for me.

Jamie.... I agree with Tess, nice memorial - Thanx.

Gordo; 9:18 pm..... Thanx for the info, I guess it's time for a trip to the Library...

New AOL straw poll is out again. June 20 - 27

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/straw-poll/

As of now:

176,492 votes

McCain 60% 106,556
Obama $40% 69,936

First results:

The first week of the general election AOL Straw Poll had nearly 410,000 votes. John McCain came out ahead of Barack Obama, 56%-44%.

That's so AOL... don't you think?....meaning that's what I would expect from an AOL poll

Let's Let Go of 'Reverse Sexism"

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/06/walker/index.html

I am disturbed by the phrase "reverse sexism" but Rebecca Walker uses it in a recent column about a Democratic house divided.

Rebecca Walker is the founder of the Third Wave Foundation, a feminist group that works nationally to support young women and transgender activists. She's also the author of four books, including her latest, "Baby Love." Read her blog on theroot.com.

Her mother is famous author Alice Walker

We should all get together and plan and construct our own backyard windmills. The electricity is not going to get any cheaper. With cars using also, where are they going to get the additional power? blackouts, will probably become more than ever. Just one of those hairbrained ideas on a hot summer day.

Julie

Posted by: julie young 73 | June 23, 2008 3:58 PM

I am so for this, but in Belgium you can't do it because it could block your neighbour's view. grrrr.

Am I the only one who wasn't offended by the Obama Presidential Seal? I thought it was clever. But since even his supporters seem to find it offensive, I am trying to understand why it doesn't bother me at all.

Shoot, it's 6 am and I have to open the station in 30 minutes

Byyyyyeeeee !

Nick, that's not a word usually ascribed to moi, nor is cute. But thanks.

unlikely_burrito, probably only now that the rich aren't in Bush's loop will they feel like the rest of us, left out of The American Dream and hanging by our fingernails.

Patsi, if the damned Dem Congress would support Obama ,"they" could make some in roads into this pervasive Bush mess. But it's going to take years to unravel all the damage he and his 'colleagues' have done.

tt

anyone remember the smell of the mimeograph test papers in the fifties?

Posted by: sturgeone | June 23, 2008 8:05 PM
=========================
STURGEONE:

YES, remember in 4th grade, the teather liked me so would let me help her .. loved it .. oh &
Pasti:
me too!! love the smell of a good pipe .. Dad used it & then an old BF smoked one ... not found anyone else who did ... *sigh* .. maybe one of these days, lol

viv

" I think there's also a better than good chance that, if I'm right, there are those who will do everything they can to make people believe he meant something entirely different."

I think you are right harbor....this will be spun mercilessly.

ROFL....in fact...ROFL twice! Tom, re the Walker article. "Gender based feminism?" Uh....huh?

"But it's going to take years to unravel all the damage he and his 'colleagues' have done."

Very true, tiptoe...no matter who is in charge....

WORDS OF WARNING: I'm on a bit of a rant comingup here and it will be sure to make some of you ABOSLUTELY FURIOUS. I'm sorry that your feelings wil be so aroused, but please, just don't read it.
WORDS OF WARNING : I'm on a bit of a rant coming
It's just my opinion -they are just my opinions. Should time prove me wrong I will be happy to say so - after all, that's the only way to be right all the time = admit it when you're wrong.

So call me names if you must, but know I won't hear you.

I'm about a day late here so want to go back to the possibility of a conspiracy.

My view, and I know it's just that, is that it was a plan and a well-thought out one at that. I think it's been worked on for more than six years, and I think it's a power grab and completely ego driven. It wasn't a conspiracy, but a plan.

I think Ted Kennedy has hated not having complete control of the party. Bill ended up having more effect than his two brothers, and then his wife was trying to get in and be the top of the party.

I have heard some say that it's a shame that the dems had to have two such good and minority candidates in the same election - couldn't they have timed it better?

Actually no, because the planners wanted to beat Hillary and the only one who could beat her wasa a another minority, preferably a black man. Racism is a more compelling issue because it's more immediate and more imprinted in our brains than sexism. After all,sexism has been part of our civilization since there has been a civilization, so we're accustomed to it - some even have trouble seeing it. Why is a woman's virginity an absolute demand, whereas a man's virginity makes him an object of scorn? That damn Eve - it's all HER fault!

No one else could have beaten Hillary, even with all her negatives - not one of the repubs would have had a chance.

Candidates do not spring up from nowhere. He was looked for and found and tried out on stage in 2004,and chosen. It takes years to establish an identity as a politician, and money, and friends. Obama hasn't really even been a senator. He spoke in2004 before he was elected, sworn in in 2005, and by 2007 was running for president, not being a senator.

We are used to seeing him around and hearing about him because the rumors were out there, and we feel as if he's actually BEEN around.

The planning has been brilliant and almost seamless.
Put him in the spotlight and then keep talking about him, but don't ever-expose him. Rfer to him only as the great speaker at the last convention, but don't say what his political standards are, so he can't be held to them.

When Hillary mentioned LBJ signed the Civil Rights Bill, it was Kennedy's toe she stepped on, not Obama's, but that did it. The hystreics on msnbc took the ball and ran with it, calling the Clinton's racists, and the campaign didn't have to do much more.

I don't think Kennedy and his minions, esp the Chicago machine, expected her to put up such a good fight. I'm so proud of her and so thankful she didn't give in .Now Obama and his people, and they ARE the Chicago machine, have to actually accomplish something because of her. So far, he hasn't done much to prove he can do anything better than Hillary.
He changed the head of the DNC to...oh, yes, it's the SAME head of the DNC, the one who worked for his selection.

He picked a new head-of-staff for his vp choice...well, he doesn't have one yet, but he will. That new head-of-staff is a welcome new addiotion on the scene......well, she's hew to him. Yes, she had spent a lot of time with Hillary ....well, just because she couldn't stop the leaks of info out of Hillary's office ( Toobin said it leaked like an old battleship), well, that doesn't mean it was her job.

So, no changes this far......well, a couple of words being taken back, and a few vows broken. Those are changes, right? Oh, yeah, he changed his church and his pastor and his list of friends, but that is no big thing, because he didn't know what he believed in his church, and had no idea who those men were.

The point is that Hillary put up a better fight than Obama did, and people will remember it, and all during his term in office (groan) the world itself is going to still be comparing the two of them.

Obama has sold himself to the devil. Michelle said her first words to him were, "Oh, please, no." I believe her. I think she knew better than he did what it meant.

Soooooooooooooooooo bethyboo...Do you feel better?

Don´t apologize if you want to purge. It is all good. You are not insulting anyone here on the board so, just go ahead..

To a certain extent I feel you, but as a matter of fact, I have closed the book ont his chapter. I am living in the present... Let BO have his 5 minutes of fame, It will soon be diminished.

Stay True BB

As soon as he said it, I cringed...not because I thought Imus was way out of line, but because most folks probably wouldn't have immediate access to replay like I had, and I knew it would be all blown out of proportion.

Imus was saying the reason Adam Jones had been arrested six times was BECAUSE he was Black, and nothing else.

Imus was sticking up for Jones, and dissing the out-of-balance arrests of African Americans compared to other races.

Imus was just to hip for his audience, is all...Al Sharpton had a cow and others spoke of how Imus was back at his racist ways. This is bullshit, pure bullshit. Imus has started a dialogue about race relations in this country since his December hiring at WABC & RFD-TV.
Really,all one has to do is watch the video twice to clear up any suspicion that Imus was uttering racist remarks.

Hi Beth and Jason
Beth
Goood post. I agree wholeheartedly. I know craig thinks it is a good idea that BO has taken over the DNC, but I do not see it that way.. It was supposed to have been Gov Blagovich, that was to run for Pres, but since he and rezko got caught, the chicago machine decided to run with BO. Yes, it has been planned for years and executed by Soros, Axelrod, Dean and Obama. Do not trust the man.
Just thinking of what we could have had and what we are getting is one sorry mess. mho.

Julie

Here's the kinda thing (bull) you're going to get if you vote for McCain. Did you EVER in your life hear of such a stupid idea? This must be an indicator about his level of thinking & functioning.

"McCain Proposes a $300 Million Prize for a Next-Generation Car Battery"

($1 for each person in the US, I guess)

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/24/us/politics/24campaign.html

tt

Jason and Julie - thanks for your responses.

Do I feel better? A little I guess. I have been gritting and grinding my teeth so hard lately that they really ache and it may be because of the situation I find my self in with this election.

I agree with you, Jason, and will probably vote for Obama but it is so disturbing to me. I think it's close to the worst choice I've ever had to make in my 65 years.

So maybe letting it out will be good for me. I do realize
how disgusted I am with myself that it took me so long to catch on to why they picked Obama - they had to have another minority because Hillary is one - only another minority could beat her. I feel foolish I didn't see it before. They used the good will and good nature of the American people against us.

However, I don't think it will be long-lived. I pray not.

It has cooled off here, now, tho, and is in the low 50's and I hope it won't get past 85 tomorrow. that's good.

Thanks, to you and others, whoever you may be, who won't take out a contract on me!

"Religion survey says Texans more devout than most"

And has more weird stuff like cults, child abuse in general and animal abuse.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5852851.html

*shaking mah head*
tt

THE NEW AMERICAN DISENFRANCHISEMENT.

Democratic Elitists And Their Role In Hijacking The Democratic Party!

"The Answer… You create your own candidate from a blank slate and opportunistically disenfranchise large segments of the Clinton voter coalition.

The far-left elite of the Democratic Party had found the ideal candidate: A well spoken, inexperienced junior senator from Illinois. Barack Obama was a blank slate: inexperienced (no political skeletons in the closet), a powerful speaker, African-American, and had never crossed party lines or the Democrat Elitist Agenda on any major issue. The wealthy and elite now had their candidate.

Step One: Paint your ideal candidate as a great unifier, able to end the divisiveness in Washington and change the political polarization that Hillary Clinton represented. Although Barack Obama had little experience, he also did not bear the scars of previous political fights or have the political skeletons in his closet."

More:

http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/05/new-american-disenfranchisement.html

An old saying goes: "The peole get the president they deserve". Well maybe we do deserve either JmC or BO. Maybe we do not deserve HRC...
We as a nation should turn and check our insides and then come again...

Be prepared the coming months for more trial balloons launched by the BO campaign. They can and will get away with it, because the media will let them...

Just think...for a split second what would happen if either JmC or worse HRC brought this up...
She would be called:
- Unpatriotic
- Full of herslef
- Wanting to take over our minds by endulging the Clinton Dynasty
- Bitch that does anything to be part of history
etc
etc
etc

So maybe we do deserve BO...This is what we are as a country, so this is what we get as president......
NO OFFENSE....

"...or have the political skeletons in his closet."

Wrong about this !!!

Good Morning, bettyboo, if you're still around, Jason,
Julie, GORDO and whoever else has popped in,

bettyboo, I agree with your long post. You had me until you wrote "I'll probably vote for him..." I respect your decision, of course, but given what you wrote I thought you'd decide either not to vote for president or to write in Hillary.

Personally, for me, I'm still hovering between no vote for prez or a relunctant vote for McCain.

I'm that pissed about the primary.

Posted by: prof marcia Author Profile Page | June 24, 2008 4:56 AM

Hi prof marcia,

It's good to see you're still here. I'm going to go through the posts bottom, up. So I haven't read Bethyboos yet. But I still agree with what you just said. And I will not vote or vote for McCain.

And pissed about the primary is putting it too mildly in my case.

"The people get the president they deserve". Jason

Jason, you may be right, but did the people knowingly choose him? We weren't given enough 'facts' at the beginning and by the end he was losing by a landslide. Now look at the choices. The best of two 'what'?

And the media won't just let the Obama campaign get away with it, they'll help them.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/06/another-mccain-summer-fade.html#comment-106396

"The planning has been brilliant and almost seamless." BB

That's because all the major players were in on it, as high as you can go.

"Obama has sold himself to the devil." BB

Undoubtedly.