While we wait for the voters to vote today in Indiana and North Carolina, don’t forget to cast your vote in today’s final tabulation of the first round of VP Madness, GOP Edition.
Current leaders in first-round pairings: Rice, Huckabee, Sanford, Romney, Pawlenty, Powell, Ridge, Hutchison, Palin, Brownback, Steele, Jindal, Portman, Lieberman, Thune and Crist.
Round two begins tomorrow. Craig’s video tour of VP Madness.
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WHEN: Friday, May 9 at 6:00 PM EST (Free to the Public)
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Comments
Happy Primary Day
Posted by: Jamie
| May 6, 2008 3:07 PM
HEllo
Posted by: EuroTom
| May 6, 2008 3:08 PM
God it took like 4 minutes for my post to go through!
Posted by: EuroTom
| May 6, 2008 3:09 PM
I think Pawlenty would be good because he is not bad on the eyes and he's not likely going to be divisive. is Minnesota a good place geographically for a Vice-Presidential candidate in this election cycle where the nominee is from Arizona? I know it helped when Carter ran because he was from the South and Mondale expanded the terrain as it were.
Posted by: EuroTom
| May 6, 2008 3:14 PM
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Posted by: Craig Crawford
| May 6, 2008 3:16 PM
some real drama unfolding about illegal obama campaign action
LIVE news on rtlZ Holland
They refer to some tape on youtube..
found it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiM-6ZnW2LI&eurl=http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/06/obama-shenanigans-does-this-look-legal-%20to-you/
Posted by: Jason | May 6, 2008 3:16 PM
ET, the 'trons must be moving slowly across the pond today.
Posted by: pogo
| May 6, 2008 3:18 PM
That can't be legal. Around here, you can't even put a sign in your yard if you live next to a polling place.
Posted by: jeejee
| May 6, 2008 3:22 PM
Just responding to Warren, I think that an objective read of the Republicans understands they think Obama is the weaker opponent. Not all but the majority, McCain, Rove and others seem to agree. Yes, many Republicans who think Hillary cannot win the nomination because of Democratic blindness support Hillary to drag out the fight. I do not think it is over and the coming results will show why Hillary should win the nomination.
Same reason that despite Israel Valequez being down on points, won his rematch trilogy. He would have beaten his opponent if the fight had gone on another twenty seconds. He was crushing him. Despite that, his opponent claims the unfair low blow call blew it for him. To make the anaology fitting, there were several low blows not counted....
Posted by: Maxtrue | May 6, 2008 3:23 PM
Earth to Harold: Wrong network!!!
May 6, 2008
Dear Flatus,
I have officially moved to NBC after a year and productive stint with FOX News. Starting today, you will begin receiving notices about my appearances on NBC and MSNBC news and political shows. With election and economic news increasing, the appearances will be frequent.
This evening starting at 6:00 pm EST, 5:00 pm CST I will join the MSNBC news "Decision 08" team to provide analysis of the election results from Indiana and North Carolina. The coverage will last through the evening.
-- Harold
Posted by: Flatus
| May 6, 2008 3:24 PM
ok, ok, I voted - was about 67% in round 1
Posted by: pogo
| May 6, 2008 3:27 PM
Yep, Harold made a bad move....
Posted by: Maxtrue | May 6, 2008 3:33 PM
flatus, admitting I'm clueless, Harold? Decision '08? MSNBC/NBC?
Posted by: pogo
| May 6, 2008 3:34 PM
Pogo-
I'm at 75% ...BUT...the winners in certain brackets looks to me like mostly Democrats are voting.... in a GOP world, how does Lieberman beat Jeb Bush by 33 points?
~Gidget
Posted by: Gidget
| May 6, 2008 3:37 PM
Pogo-
Harold Ford?
Posted by: Gidget
| May 6, 2008 3:40 PM
Sorry Max. But I don't rely on your posts for an "objective read".....
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 3:42 PM
Gidg, no, Lieberman doesn't win - in fact, since he still claims to caucus with the Dems, I doubt that notwithstanding his McCain butt grabbing of late he would be able to convince the Rep powers that be that he could help the ticket (he would energize dems who otherwise wouldn't vote to get off their tookuses and vote against him).
Posted by: pogo
| May 6, 2008 3:42 PM
Pogo, Gidget
Yes Harold Ford, the former representative, swift boated senatorial candidate, blue dog Democrat from Tennessee.
Posted by: Flatus
| May 6, 2008 3:43 PM
The RNC sent out a census early this year to various members. In the cover letter, the Clintons were mentioned no less than 6 times. Three of the questions were about Senator Hillary Clinton herself. The gist of the entire thing was, you must send us money so we can keep the Clintons out of the White House. I think they hate the Clintons so much because they have never figured out how to defeat them. Maybe all the pretense of supporting Hillary is simply to turn her own party against her. And it's working pretty well, in certain circles.
Posted by: jeejee
| May 6, 2008 3:44 PM
Moving to MSNBC? That will make some of the ladies happy.
Posted by: pogo
| May 6, 2008 3:45 PM
Pogo
Are you on a MSNBC timeout (not a criticism, I've taken several in the last few months)Harold's been there a few weeks now...regular on David Gregory's show and frequently on MoJo.
He's been quite fair and balanced....at least compared to KO, Tweety et al.
~Gidget
Posted by: Gidget
| May 6, 2008 3:52 PM
jeejee:
The GOP also hates the Clintons because of their "take no prisoners" style of politics.
Being an Obama supporter - and often on the other side of the Clinton Attack Machine - it seems the Republicans have a point....
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 3:52 PM
Someone should warn Ford to only drink bottled water, and be sure to wash his hands after he shakes hands with anyone. In fact, a doctor's mask wouldn't be a bad idea. That wouldn't be bad advice for you either, Craig, if you're still here. Because I think the same virus causes both Obama Fever and Clinton Derangement Syndrome, and I'd hate to see you turn into one of the "pod people."
Posted by: jeejee
| May 6, 2008 3:54 PM
the gop hates clinton because they know that clinton can not only win, but ream them when she does.....
Posted by: sturgeone | May 6, 2008 3:56 PM
I've been calling Indiana voters today at headquarters.
Very nice people. Most of them voted early..very enthusiastic.
I'm home for lunch,then back to the phones.
Just saw Hillary say that if you want the car to go forward you put it in D. If you want to go backward you put it in R. Good line.
Posted by: Oregon Democrat | May 6, 2008 3:57 PM
Gidg - not a boycott as such, just turned my attention to other things. I catch a little in the morning (< 30 min., and that's before the first guest comes on at 6:30), and seldom see anything in the evening now that the weather is clement, soccer season is in full swing and KO has turned his ire from Shrub to Hillary. If Craig mentions that he'll be on, I try to catch that, but that hasn't been frequent recently, and I have not seen Harold on MSNBC for a while. If either one of them starts showing up on Abrams, I'll start watching again.
Posted by: pogo
| May 6, 2008 4:01 PM
The GOP also hates the Clintons because of their "take no prisoners" style of politics
More craptastic stylings from the land of Obama
Hello Lee Atwater and Karl Rove. The Republicans don't hate the Clintons because of the "take no prisoners " style. Republicans hate the Clintons because they are Democrats who didn't fold under Republican bullsh-t.
The Republicans wrote the book and if you think they are hoping it's the not Senator Clinton so they can campaign nicely, I have a commuter rail system in Central Florida I'd like to sell you.
Posted by: Smokey | May 6, 2008 4:01 PM
Pogo, Craig does not get invited to Countdown anymore, because KO only wants people who support his views, and Craig has dared to not exactly agree with him in the past.
Posted by: jeejee
| May 6, 2008 4:05 PM
I checked in briefly recently and saw Mika make a fool of herself when questioning?? Sen .Menendez about the Hillary tax holiday.
Mike was very disrespectful and Senator M.destroyed her with the facts of the whole Clinton proposal. Mike was starting to sound like Senator Obama as she misrepresented Hillary's plan.
Posted by: Oregon Democrat | May 6, 2008 4:07 PM
warren, I think Carville was right - and it seems to be spreading down to his supporters. I suggest you buckle up your knickers if Obama wins this thing. Keep this up and you'll be whining like a little girl when the repug 527s crank up their machine.
Posted by: pogo
| May 6, 2008 4:07 PM
Distract, Dismiss, Deny and Demonize.
The 4 D's of the Clintonites.
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 4:08 PM
Mika not Mike
Posted by: Oregon Democrat | May 6, 2008 4:09 PM
Bull scheiss, Baloney, Bombast and Buncombe
4 B's of Obama Campaign
Posted by: sturgeone | May 6, 2008 4:12 PM
pogo:
I am not whining about these attacks. I am used to them.
I was merely pointing out that the "Clinton style" of politics is one of these reasons that there is such animosity built up in the GOP.
(Their success, etc. may also be a factor - but the wise-ass snark that often emanates from the Clintonites undoubtedly pisses people off.)
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 4:16 PM
Hillary will be appearing in Central Point Thursday evening..More stops to come..
Posted by: Oregon Democrat | May 6, 2008 4:16 PM
Sturg-
Buncombe....what a great word!
My new vocabulary word for the day.
Thanx!
~Gidget
Posted by: Gidget
| May 6, 2008 4:16 PM
Distract, Dismiss, Deny and Demonize.
The 4 D's of the Clintonites.
Posted by: warren | May 6, 2008 4:08 PM
More craptastic crap from the projection room
Posted by: Smokey | May 6, 2008 4:17 PM
warren said:
I was merely pointing out that the "Clinton style" of politics is one of these reasons that there is such animosity built up in the GOP.
Warren youre venturing into Fairy Tale land with that one........that's patently absurd.
Posted by: sturgeone | May 6, 2008 4:19 PM
Smokey-I Agree!
With all the crap they threw against Bill Clinton, he remained one of the most popular Presidents ever;
They didn't get anything to stick then, and they won't be able to now. Because it was all a lie.
Posted by: jeejee
| May 6, 2008 4:19 PM
OD:
I agree Mika embarassed herself and seemed catty with Senator M.
But Senator M. did not "destroy her with facts." He quickly tried to move past discussing the merits of the issue to get into the whole - Hillary cares about lower class people and Obama does not routine.
Are you telling me you believe that routine is a "fact"?
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 4:19 PM
Are you telling me you believe that routine is a "fact"?
Apparently you do evidenced by your presentations here today.
Posted by: Warned | May 6, 2008 4:23 PM
sturg:
Are you telling me you think their style has nothing to do with the animosity?
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 4:24 PM
Well , if they asked me what I would do if Iran nuked Israel , this is what I would say. "I would invite Iran's leader to have dinner with me. I'd give him dinner , but no dessert. Well , okay. I'd give him a slice of pie , but NO ICE CREAM! And then I'd tell him how disappointed I am in him. REALLY disappointed. Then I would send him home with 2 slices of pie. But , remind him as we say goodbye how disappointed I am in him."
Posted by: Corey
| May 6, 2008 4:26 PM
"craptastic crap "
Smokey -- I hope you are a guy. Because if you are not, you are not allowed that sort of language on this blog. If you are a woman you will just be ugly and rude.
As the 15 year old girl Roger C nailed when she was 15 once sang, "Guys Do It All The Time."
Posted by: Patsi
| May 6, 2008 4:27 PM
"apparently" = bullshit
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 4:28 PM
Wow..the usual suspects are really upset today.
Back to the phones..
Posted by: Oregon Democrat | May 6, 2008 4:28 PM
sturg, I always wondered how to spell buncombe. I thought it was buncum. Silly me.
warren, considering how civil it has been until recently when your guy decided to get mean with Hillary, I beg to differ - you are whining. Of course when any comment is made by Hillary or her staff that doesn't flatter your candidate is considered an attack, I can understand the whining.
Posted by: pogo
| May 6, 2008 4:30 PM
A little side line to the subject of Morning Joe.
A few months back, Joe and Mika agreed to take one side or the other to keep the conversation going. Appearently Joe has Hillary's side when he is not interjecting republican talking points and Mika has Obama when she is not regerjetating Democratic talking points.
This is how they keep and audience and good healthy discourse. This is how a truly good show acts.
So hate Mika all you want, but understand the premise. Mika is actually one of the most even and fair pundits on the Boob Tube.
Posted by: Chef Sheila Hussein The Nun
| May 6, 2008 4:30 PM
Snort....Warren utters The Word.
Posted by: Patsi
| May 6, 2008 4:30 PM
Warren.....I'm telling you that the gop has hated bill clinton and now hillary since 1992 and they dont need the fact that the clintons do not accept swift-boating lying down as the last two nominees did as an excuse to hate them.......they hate them because they fear them.....they know what will happen to their little house of cards when hillary is elected in november.......
Posted by: sturgeone | May 6, 2008 4:31 PM
pogo:
Tell yourself whatever you need to pogo. But the the voters and the Super Delegates disagree. And they are the ones who count.
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 4:33 PM
pogo.......sometimes "bunkum" but I prefer the buncombe since it is reputed to have come from buncombe county nc......
Posted by: sturgeone | May 6, 2008 4:35 PM
Warren doesn't like to be confused by facts.
He has his baseless claims and he is sticking with them. That is the one defintiion of hope.
Posted by: Smokey | May 6, 2008 4:37 PM
Patsi, for what it's worth, my mommy says that shit is not a curse word, because it's in the Bible, so BS is fine with me.
Posted by: jeejee
| May 6, 2008 4:37 PM
well..... I have nothing much to add to the discourse this afternoon..... except to say that I am avidly awaiting some results.....
I'm on overload for tonight..... Red Sox/ Tigers.... Celtics/Cavs.... American Idol.... and now Craig on CSpan..... I usually control the remote..... I wonder if I can make Rick's head spin tonight..... :0)
Sheila..... thanks for reminding us that shows are....... well...... shows.....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| May 6, 2008 4:38 PM
p'sssst Warren.......it's not over yet.
Posted by: sturgeone | May 6, 2008 4:38 PM
Patsi, for what it's worth, my mommy says that shit is not a curse word, because it's in the Bible, so BS is fine with me.
Posted by: jeejee
| May 6, 2008 4:40 PM
We all know there is only 1 evil empire in America and that is the NY Yankees.
Posted by: Corey
| May 6, 2008 4:42 PM
warren......dude.......when the delegates and the superdelegates are so evenly split how can you make such a statement as "the delegates and the superdelegates disagree"? whassa matta you?
Posted by: sturgeone | May 6, 2008 4:46 PM
"So hate Mika all you want, but understand the premise"
Indeed, it is the WWF all day long
And just as real I suspect.
in case you didn't get your fix this week
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5kPY3NRz4s
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | May 6, 2008 4:48 PM
Warren = Baghdad Bob or perhaps Obama Ollie
Posted by: Smokey | May 6, 2008 4:51 PM
ROFL -- JeeJee -- My Mom and Ultra-Religious Granny used the word "Sheee-ice-ttttt."
Posted by: Patsi
| May 6, 2008 4:52 PM
So hate Mika all you want, but understand the premise"
Indeed, it is the WWF all day long
And just as real I suspect.
in case you didn't get your fix this week
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5kPY3NRz4s
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | May 6, 2008 4:54 PM
warren, I don't need to tell myself anything - and I'm not the one whining about the mean Clintons.
sturg, interesting derivation - from Wiki:
In 1820, a U.S. Congressman, whose district included Buncombe County, unintentionally contributed a word to the English language. In the Sixteenth Congress, after lengthy debate on the Missouri Compromise, members of the House called for an immediate vote on that important question. Instead, Felix Walker rose to address his colleagues, insisting that his constituents expected him to make a speech "for Buncombe." It was later remarked that Walker's untimely and irrelevant oration was not just for Buncombe--it "was Buncombe." Thus, buncombe, afterwards spelled bunkum and then shortened to bunk, became a term for empty, nonsensical talk.
See, I was misspeling it all along.
the Biltmore estate is there, right? Asheville is one of my favorite partsof NC - really beautiful part of the state.
Later ds& ds.
Posted by: pogo
| May 6, 2008 4:54 PM
there's s**t in the bible??
Posted by: sturgeone | May 6, 2008 4:58 PM
Patsi I think you should certainly speak your mind. No one else hesitates to do so !! So ... IMHO... GO FOR IT and let those who complain deal with it themselves. I am off to bed.
Posted by: EuroTom
| May 6, 2008 5:00 PM
Comments about last night on here ... OY!
I will make no predictions about tonight's outcome, but it will be interesting as always.
Patsi: You can say anything you want, IMHO. I'm glad you're back and I enjoy your posts very much.
Jamie: Dealing with a two-year old as you know can be very frustrating at times but you do not have to justify yourself to anyone.
In fact, no one has to justify themselves to anyone. People should just try to be kinder to one another, even if our opinions differ. Much easier to say, however, than to do.
Posted by: GAKaren
| May 6, 2008 5:02 PM
So hate Mika all you want, but understand the premise"
Indeed, it is the WWF all day long
And just as real I suspect.
in case you didn't get your fix this week
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5kPY3NRz4s
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | May 6, 2008 5:02 PM
sturg:
I was speaking specifically about the unfair attacks. Exit polls from all the recent primaries - even PA - found that voters felt that Clinton attacked unfairly more so than Obama.
And I have heard several Super Delegates mention that the negative tone of the Clinton campaign was one of the reasons they came out to support Obama.
(I have not heard any Super D's mention negativity from Obama as a reason to support HRC.)
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 5:02 PM
even "the voters and the superdelegates disagree" so far they are the same.....close to evenly split........you mean disagree with one another?
Posted by: sturgeone | May 6, 2008 5:16 PM
testing
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 5:35 PM
I've opened my chat room for the evening, come hang if you want, I'll be in and out of the chat room through the evening
http://www.brianarens.com/blog/chat.htm
Just type in the name box whatever name you want to use, no password needed, if the server tells you the name you've selected isn't available just chose another name to use
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 6:04 PM
I've opened my chat room for the evening, come hang if you want, I'll be in and out of the chat room through the evening
http://www.brianarens.com/blog/chat.htm
Just type in the name box whatever name you want to use, no password needed, if the server tells you the name you've selected isn't available just chose another name to use
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 6:09 PM
VP Madness
http://www.rogerailes.blogspot.com/2008_05_04_archive.html#5419680157428004472#5419680157428004472
Posted by: Mad River Mike | May 6, 2008 6:09 PM
Did something happen to the site? haven't had any more posts since4:46?
Posted by: JennBe
| May 6, 2008 6:11 PM
Jennbe,
I think so. It just started working again
Posted by: Chef Sheila Hussein The Nun
| May 6, 2008 6:18 PM
Hi JennBe,
I think so. Its been too quiet.
Posted by: Chef Sheila Hussein The Nun
| May 6, 2008 6:19 PM
JennBe-
I didn't get any new posts for two hours...then just now...a bunch...
Hmmmm...maybe the server was resting up for tonight...
~G
Posted by: Gidget
| May 6, 2008 6:20 PM
See...burp!
Posted by: Chef Sheila Hussein The Nun
| May 6, 2008 6:22 PM
Inadequate server capacity to handle the primary day load. Happens every primary day.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 6:25 PM
Warren said:
I was speaking specifically about the unfair attacks. Exit polls from all the recent primaries - even PA - found that voters felt that Clinton attacked unfairly more so than Obama.
And I have heard several Super Delegates mention that the negative tone of the Clinton campaign was one of the reasons they came out to support Obama.
(I have not heard any Super D's mention negativity from Obama as a reason to support HRC.)
you start with a false premise of your own choosing and then set about propping it up with with more false premises like a guy trying to guide the bowling ball after he's let it go.......
Posted by: sturgeone | May 6, 2008 6:27 PM
Early Indiana polls - Clinton 64% BO 36% Wish it would stay that way to the end.
Julie
Posted by: Julie Young 73 | May 6, 2008 6:28 PM
Wishful thinking on Clintonite parts. We might have an Obama sweep tonight making my name come true.
Posted by: Bye Bye Billary | May 6, 2008 6:36 PM
I hear you Bye Bye, I'm hearing this undertone of a surprise could be in the working, but maybe I'm hearing what I want to hear. fingers crossed!
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 6:42 PM
"you start with a false premise of your own choosing and then set about propping it up with with more false premises like a guy trying to guide the bowling ball after he's let it go......."
pure fluff sturg.
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 6:44 PM
I'm wondering if exit polling was done on the gas tax holiday.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 6:45 PM
warren.....and that was my point.....fluff
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Posted by: just another sock puppet | May 6, 2008 6:52 PM
Exit Polling Shows Wright Controversy, Economy Matter to Indiana, North Carolina Voters
by Kelley Beaucar Vlahos
Tuesday, May 6, 2008
Indiana
Update: 41,000 votes in, Hillary 61%, Obama 39%.
Update: 40,000 votes in. Hillary now at 60%, Obama 40%. They may include some Indianapolis returns as Wolf Blitzer said a few minutes ago some just came in. 2% of vote. Hillary ahead in every county reporting so far, about 15 of them.
Posted by: Exit Laughing | May 6, 2008 6:52 PM
Thanks guys, see it is working now
Posted by: JennBe
| May 6, 2008 6:55 PM
Will tonight determine who will challenge McCain /Romney as they go to victory?
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| May 6, 2008 7:03 PM
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by Iphie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:04:45 PM EST
Indiana polls close at 6:00, yeah?
I just read that Craig Crawford will be on C-Span tonight to discuss returns -- looks like that will be my channel of choice this evening.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/6/135922/0664
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Posted by: just another sock puppet | May 6, 2008 7:06 PM
Which presidential candidate is most in touch with average Americans?
Hillary Clinton (41%)John McCain (29%)Barack Obama (29%)
Posted by: Let Them Eat Argula | May 6, 2008 7:11 PM
via talkleft
You gotta love the newly all important Obama surrogate Joe Andrew. Sunday, just 2 days ago, he was giving a Joe Namath guarantee that Barack Obama would win Indiana. Now I am watching him on MSNBC (the Obama News Network, as Chris "Tweety" Matthews admitted) claiming it would be a miracle like parting the Red Sea if Obama comes close in Indiana.
Andrew, the DC lawyer/lobbyist, is a hoot.
Posted by: Miracle in Muncie | May 6, 2008 7:18 PM
"According to CNN exit polls from Indiana and North Carolina, Sen. Hillary Clinton has an early advantage in both states."
Interesting - although can't find where CNN really said that. Perhaps wishful thinking as I heard on POTUS08 earlier that exit polls look good in NC for Obama
http://www.gaywired.com/article.cfm?id=18925§ion=67
Posted by: Wendy!
| May 6, 2008 7:20 PM
As I post, John Gibson is discussing Obama's new "Pastor Problem" on his radio show - Rev Otis Moss III. I noticed that Moss hit Right Wing radio last week. Obama has called Rev Moss a "wonderful young pastor," and an acceptable choice to replace retiring pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright. If this goes mainstream TV, Obama will be running away from him.
Posted by: GORDO | May 6, 2008 7:22 PM
Craig on now!!!
Posted by: Wendy!
| May 6, 2008 7:22 PM
That was quick.
Way to go Obama!!
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 7:31 PM
All networks call NC for Obama!
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 7:32 PM
Craig looks great and sounds so smart. Yay Craig!
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| May 6, 2008 7:32 PM
I thought Craig hated exit polls...
(oh well - everything is fair game in politics I guess.)
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 7:35 PM
So much for early advantage in both states Windy.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 7:35 PM
Okay that is weird. Both CNN and MSNBC are projecting an Obama win in NC, but they have 0% precincts reporting both on screen and on their web page.
Posted by: Jamie
| May 6, 2008 7:39 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/06/exit-polls-indiana-north_n_100447.html
You're not going to like those exit polls Clinton folk!
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 7:40 PM
Could be a "decisive" victory in NC.
First, it is a "big state". Second, Obama may win enough popular votes to start shutting down that line of attack as well. (If he exceeds her magin in PA - HRC will have some serious soul searching to do.)
The Clinton campaign is running out of arguments.
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 7:41 PM
To top it off, they are showing Obama with fewer votes now. What are they using to make the forecast?
Posted by: Jamie
| May 6, 2008 7:41 PM
BTW, Craig is on C-SPAN2 in my area.
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| May 6, 2008 7:43 PM
Third, Harold Ford said whoever won NC would win the nomination.
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 7:44 PM
well...it's on to the next 6 - looks like a tie today.
It was fun ridin' on the wagon all day though
ROFL!
Posted by: Wendy!
| May 6, 2008 7:44 PM
Ha, ha, ha! Victory in North Carolina!
Posted by: Bye Bye Billary | May 6, 2008 7:45 PM
Looking like NC is going to HUGE ,HUGE baby! Exit polling Jamie! HUGE, HUGE!
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 7:46 PM
No Gary numbers yet or all of NW Ind.
Posted by: I hate weasels | May 6, 2008 7:46 PM
I want to rip Bill Clinton's eyes out
"But, after a few seconds, she affected a funny voice. 'I want to rip his eyes out!' she said, clawing at the air with her fingernails. One of her advisers gave her a nervous look. 'Kidding!' Obama said. 'See, this is what gets me into trouble."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/may/04/barackobama
Posted by: GORDO | May 6, 2008 7:46 PM
Jamie - Craig is explaining it now on C-Span
Posted by: Wendy!
| May 6, 2008 7:47 PM
I saw one exit poll that says Obama took 66% of the white vote in NC. Looking like Hillary is only doing well with the broken hip set in NC.
HUGE BABY!
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 7:49 PM
66% of young white voters that should read, hard to type when one is so giddy with excitement.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 7:52 PM
Whites (63%) go Clinton by 59-36 (5% missing?). African Americans (33%) go Obama by 93-7.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#NCDEM
Need to get your hearing checked or step away from the bong
Posted by: Bry Bry is Wrong Wrong | May 6, 2008 7:54 PM
Gee I wonder if Bill feels a little rejected tonight, all that time in NC didn't seem to do much.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 7:54 PM
GAWLY! I guess Bill's effect in the Mayberry area of NC didn't work.
Posted by: Bye Bye Billary | May 6, 2008 7:54 PM
it's been so long for Brian since he's had some good news - he's tripping over his fingers
;-)
LOL
Posted by: Wendy!
| May 6, 2008 7:55 PM
why so giddy, lads.......you think hillary's dropping out because barack wins NC?
lol
Posted by: sturgeone | May 6, 2008 7:56 PM
perfect example of irrational exuberance
Posted by: Where's the broom boy now? | May 6, 2008 7:57 PM
Here's the NC Precinct reporting page. It is the 11,000 vote margin in Greensboro that is out weighing her wins in small counties.
Posted by: Jamie
| May 6, 2008 7:57 PM
Forgot the link
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/county/#val=NCDEMMAPPRIMARY1
Posted by: Jamie
| May 6, 2008 7:58 PM
Hit the road Bill, and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, hit the road bill and don't you come back no more.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 8:03 PM
I do not expect the HRC TRUE supporters to be public and as we vote in the Ausie manner.
Be assured that McCain Romney welcomes your vote and as you know in your heart of hearts, McCain is much closer to your values then he is to the right wing idiots of the republican party
Posted by: Ping Pong
| May 6, 2008 8:05 PM
go eat some fried bologna ping.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 8:08 PM
Wild Bill isn't going anywhere. He is the king of the Hillbilly's!!
(Well no - that's Johnny Cash...Bill can be the Grand Pu-Ba ; )
He will be working those small towns in the in the Fall for whoever wins the nomination.
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 8:09 PM
only if you did not smoke it
Posted by: Ping Pong
| May 6, 2008 8:09 PM
I wonder if Tweety read my Hillary GED crack of the other day, it's the second time tonight he's mentioned Hillary having a new found GED.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 8:12 PM
WooHoo
Hillary wins IN!!!
Posted by: Wendy!
| May 6, 2008 8:12 PM
awwww....Clare McCaskill.....a real plus for Obama on MSNBC
Posted by: Chef Sheila Hussein The Nun
| May 6, 2008 8:13 PM
Looks like NC will be closer than objects seem at this time.
Posted by: POLLCAT | May 6, 2008 8:14 PM
BTW
CBS called it for Hillary - not sure about other networks - according to C-Span
Posted by: Wendy!
| May 6, 2008 8:14 PM
The Ping Journal declared HRC for IN hours ago
Posted by: Ping Pong
| May 6, 2008 8:15 PM
Ping you're welcome to my pipe anytime you like!
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 8:17 PM
POLLCAT - I think it will be too but what is your source
40% of NC early voting was African American and that's what we're seeing right now according to C-Span so they think it will tighten up as Hillary's vote starts coming in.
Well something for everyone tonight.
Posted by: Wendy!
| May 6, 2008 8:17 PM
Dream on Wendy, The only question for the rest of the night is will Obama have a greater than 10 net gain in the delegate count. BTW Clinton folk, the next sound you will be hearing is a thundering heard of SDs coming out for Obama.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 8:19 PM
whai dont that feller ware a flaig peen?
--caller to cspan
Posted by: sturgeone | May 6, 2008 8:19 PM
Too early to call on MSNBC and CNN.
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 8:21 PM
Brian shhhhh Craig is talking about us
;-)
Posted by: Wendy!
| May 6, 2008 8:21 PM
Obama needs to change his campaign song to Hammer Time!
Can't touch this!
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 8:22 PM
Warren - it feeds into their narrative to hold off on calling IN for Hillary and making quick call for Obama
i predict out of cable networks Fox will call it first.
Posted by: Wendy!
| May 6, 2008 8:23 PM
next sound you will be hearing is a thundering heard of SDs coming out for Obama
I think the Obama campaign has this statement on a tape loop. It comes out after every primary.
The figures on closer in NC are based on a large turnout being helpful to Clinton. Obama was 16% a head based on early voting demographics but election day voters split with a slight trend for Clinton.
Posted by: POLLCAT | May 6, 2008 8:24 PM
Bummer about the gas leak at Obama HQ...guess he won't be able to make his tired ole stump speech tonight
;-)
Posted by: Wendy!
| May 6, 2008 8:25 PM
What's he saying? I'm watching Tweety and KO.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 8:25 PM
Brain - we already got a campaign song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN8dP4CoFaw
Obama to the White House!!
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 8:25 PM
he said he needs more McCain supporters
LOL
but then he gave a pretty fair analysis of Obama supporter POV and Hillary supporter POV
he might have mentioned that we are ... passionate in our support.
Posted by: Wendy!
| May 6, 2008 8:27 PM
Hillary's lead in Indiana is down to 10 now. She'll be lucky to win with more than 6.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 8:27 PM
I guess if you make enough silly predictions a certain percentage are bound to be correct.......that "psychic" network turned a handsome salary on that theory......
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut from time to time........
Posted by: sturgeone | May 6, 2008 8:28 PM
Don't worry Wendy. I am sure Obama will be giving a speech that will get MoJo back on his side this week.
And we all know Mika is already in the tank.
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 8:29 PM
We should start a pool to see how many Clinton SDs are going to jump ship between now and and the 20th.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 8:30 PM
McCain Romney, We need direction and we will let you keep the change in your pocket
Posted by: Ping Pong
| May 6, 2008 8:34 PM
MoJo has already morphed back to the Obama camp, a real "fair weather friend"
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 8:36 PM
Hillary's lead has now dropped to 8 points in Indiana. God this must be nerve racking for your Clinton folks, I feel for you! Really.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 8:38 PM
MSNBC...as it tries to swim its way out of it's own tsunami of Obama drool, misses the main headline based on its very own MSNBC exit polls:
"Obama rides swell of uneducated blacks to victory in North Carolina"
Honestly, if you watched Norah in all her mini-skirted glory...that was the only news...but it was the only thing she DIDN'T talk about. Hillary bascially won all the other demo groups in N.C., not to mention Indiana.
Wow. Based on that, I'm so excited about the Democratic prospects in November. All I can think of is the fact that the highest error rates on ballots in Florida in 2000 were in low-income, black precincts. Diebold will be eating Obama's "base" for breakfast.
See you in 2012, gang. Maybe by then McCain will have screwed up the world even more and the Dems will have ANOTHER mortal lock on the presidential election (not!).
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| May 6, 2008 8:38 PM
Brian:
I could see a scenario where all of the Super D's end up voting for Obama. If this fight does not go to the Convention - that is probably what will happen.
Bill has to throw his support behind the "first real black" President of the United States.
Don't worry - the Obama train is long.
And I think with the Clintons behind him - Obama can deal a deathblow to the Republican Party in the Fall.
(The GOP will be picking up the pieces while Obama and the Clintons ram the Democratic Mandate down their throats!!)
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 8:39 PM
Glitch in the North Carolina returns. 15% of the vote is in and it is not matching up to the exit polling.
Oh no. Poor Bambi better load up on that nicotine gum
Posted by: Modo | May 6, 2008 8:44 PM
Warren, Brian...you guys should definitely relax and not burn any more calories worrying about Super Ds or whether Obama has the nomination. He has it. It's inevitable after tonight.
Ha. Ha. Have fun with that nomination. It might end up being worth about as much as a rusty '66 Buick with no wheels.
So enjoy the ride while it lasts.
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| May 6, 2008 8:45 PM
Warren if Obama's lead hold and we see a near 30% victory in NC anything can happen and happen soon!
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 8:46 PM
Brian,
No you are not feeling for anyone. You are gloating and rubbing it in. But the night is not over my friend only 53% in in Indiana and 17 in NC..
She will win Indiana. And he will win NC. But BO victory will not be as huge as you think it will. You always try to put people down.
Try being a wee tad nicer - people will like you more instead of calling you a stinky T***.
Julie
Posted by: Julie Young 73 | May 6, 2008 8:49 PM
Chuck Todd just said it's still possible for Obama to win Indiana
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 8:50 PM
Craig said he's tired of us! WTF?! Gee Craig...
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| May 6, 2008 8:51 PM
I wouldn't mind a '66 Buick. I suppose I would have to get some wheels though....
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 8:51 PM
He said he's tired of the bashing........arent most of us, as well? the ones who are still here that is.........
Posted by: sturgeone | May 6, 2008 8:53 PM
Aren't you tired of us Alicia?
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 8:53 PM
Congrats!! Looks like Yahoo! is reporting the CBS call of IA for Hillary.
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 8:54 PM
Wow now she's won Iowa?
That's a switch!
;-)
Posted by: Wendy!
| May 6, 2008 8:56 PM
Warren my favorite car of all times was my mother's 67 Buick Wildcat convertible, it was supper boss! Cranberry red, white rag top and white leather bucket seats, huge 455 V-8, it was a damn rocket!
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 8:56 PM
Well kiss the 30% victory in NC goodbye
and while your are done there the 20 and the 15
It looks like Craig Crawford is Carnac...9%.
Chuck Todd is still thinks Rudy has a chance.
Posted by: Awesome | May 6, 2008 8:56 PM
Mr. Crawford
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I'm proud of America but Ashamed of the REPUBLIKLAN Party. The Republiklan party kills people plain and simple and that gives independent voters several reasons not to vote for McLame.
Go to this website and take back America. http:////democratz.org
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Call GOP contributor and war contractor General Electric Corporation at 800 386 1215 and tell the person, that you want the GE CEO to get Bush to end the war in Iraq and then Bush resign with Cheney and until that happens you will not buy any GE products and that you will tell your friends. Then call a local appliance store that sells GE products and tell the person you will not buy any GE products from their store until they can convince the GE CEO to convince George W Bush to end the war.
Posted by: www.democratz.org | May 6, 2008 8:57 PM
Who isn't getting tired of us?
Anybody I am close to is pretty much sick of hearing me talk about politics.
(That is why it is fun to come here ; )
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 8:57 PM
Senator Claire McBuzzkill -- I am so tired of her.
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| May 6, 2008 8:58 PM
Watching you name changing Clintonites trying to turn a pig's ear into a silk purse is funny. You guys crack me up!
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 8:59 PM
Hear that Craig!!
Obama gets Ron Paul's supporters AND F. Thompson's.
(I guess McCain gets Rudy's votes and the Huck's votes are up for grabs.)
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 9:00 PM
Anybody who insists that you fly the flag or wear a flag pin, I call a FLAGGOT.
What does a FLAGGOT mean? A FLAGGOT refers to a person who cares too much about the red white and blue but not about me and you.
http://democratz.org
Posted by: www.democratz.org | May 6, 2008 9:03 PM
Warren, Brian...
Again...all congratulations are in order! Hip hip Hooray for your team!
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| May 6, 2008 9:03 PM
Brian -- I'm tired of you, too. Kiss, kiss.
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| May 6, 2008 9:03 PM
Thanks LL, it's appreciated.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 9:05 PM
Alicia:
"Senator Claire McBuzzkill -- I am so tired of her."
That is because she is good! (It is the same reason why I always get tired of Wendy ; )
Posted by: warren
| May 6, 2008 9:07 PM
Craig's calling the Obama supporters out on C-Span right now.
Posted by: Wendy!
| May 6, 2008 9:07 PM
Warren -- I am tired of you too, dahlink.
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| May 6, 2008 9:10 PM
What did he say Wendy? I was listening to the Obama Channel....
Posted by: Chef Sheila Hussein The Nun
| May 6, 2008 9:10 PM
wheeeeee
Yea Craig is going on C-span.
We are getting rid of the dumb old bashers.
Wheeeeeee
Here come those smart nice C-spaners
HI !!!
C-spaners, Your socky baby welcomes you
Yeaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wheeeeeeeeee
Posted by: Just another Sock Puppet | May 6, 2008 9:10 PM
If Hillary's lead in Indiana slips any lower it's a loss for her
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 6, 2008 9:11 PM
You Obama supporters trying to end the party before the votes are counted. How consistent.
Under 30% votes counted and the NC margin just gets smaller and smaller
Posted by: Silk Purse and a Nurse | May 6, 2008 9:12 PM
Sheila -- He said basically that Obama supporters need to be careful not to classify white voters as racist if they don't support Obama.
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| May 6, 2008 9:14 PM
STICK A FORK INTO HILLARY. SHE APPERS DONE.
Posted by: www.democratz.org | May 6, 2008 9:14 PM
He said he thought it was very dangerous of Obama supporters to accuse anyone that supports Hillary of being a racist because it doesn't bode well for bringing the party together later. I think the exit polls in many of the states that have voted recently show that this is true. Especially when the candidate himself is also perpetuating that same myth.
Posted by: Wendy!
| May 6, 2008 9:15 PM
Thank you Wendy. ;0)
Posted by: Chef Sheila Hussein The Nun
| May 6, 2008 9:16 PM
Hey Democratz (aka Dr. DEATH) - I'm already tired of you too -- and you just got here.
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| May 6, 2008 9:17 PM
He's being Very Gracious right now. Good for Obama
Posted by: Chef Sheila Hussein The Nun
| May 6, 2008 9:18 PM
yeah......if youre going to type in all caps, the least you can do is spell correctly........
Posted by: sturgeone | May 6, 2008 9:18 PM
Obama is flip flopping - he now says Hillary can get his voters too.
ROFL
I thought he didn't like to pander?
;-)