Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Happy Primary Day

HEllo

God it took like 4 minutes for my post to go through!

I think Pawlenty would be good because he is not bad on the eyes and he's not likely going to be divisive. is Minnesota a good place geographically for a Vice-Presidential candidate in this election cycle where the nominee is from Arizona? I know it helped when Carter ran because he was from the South and Mondale expanded the terrain as it were.

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some real drama unfolding about illegal obama campaign action
LIVE news on rtlZ Holland

They refer to some tape on youtube..

found it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiM-6ZnW2LI&eurl=http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/06/obama-shenanigans-does-this-look-legal-%20to-you/

ET, the 'trons must be moving slowly across the pond today.

That can't be legal. Around here, you can't even put a sign in your yard if you live next to a polling place.

Just responding to Warren, I think that an objective read of the Republicans understands they think Obama is the weaker opponent. Not all but the majority, McCain, Rove and others seem to agree. Yes, many Republicans who think Hillary cannot win the nomination because of Democratic blindness support Hillary to drag out the fight. I do not think it is over and the coming results will show why Hillary should win the nomination.

Same reason that despite Israel Valequez being down on points, won his rematch trilogy. He would have beaten his opponent if the fight had gone on another twenty seconds. He was crushing him. Despite that, his opponent claims the unfair low blow call blew it for him. To make the anaology fitting, there were several low blows not counted....

Earth to Harold: Wrong network!!!

May 6, 2008

Dear Flatus,

I have officially moved to NBC after a year and productive stint with FOX News. Starting today, you will begin receiving notices about my appearances on NBC and MSNBC news and political shows. With election and economic news increasing, the appearances will be frequent.

This evening starting at 6:00 pm EST, 5:00 pm CST I will join the MSNBC news "Decision 08" team to provide analysis of the election results from Indiana and North Carolina. The coverage will last through the evening.

-- Harold

ok, ok, I voted - was about 67% in round 1

Yep, Harold made a bad move....

flatus, admitting I'm clueless, Harold? Decision '08? MSNBC/NBC?

Pogo-
I'm at 75% ...BUT...the winners in certain brackets looks to me like mostly Democrats are voting.... in a GOP world, how does Lieberman beat Jeb Bush by 33 points?
~Gidget

Pogo-
Harold Ford?

Sorry Max. But I don't rely on your posts for an "objective read".....

Gidg, no, Lieberman doesn't win - in fact, since he still claims to caucus with the Dems, I doubt that notwithstanding his McCain butt grabbing of late he would be able to convince the Rep powers that be that he could help the ticket (he would energize dems who otherwise wouldn't vote to get off their tookuses and vote against him).

Pogo, Gidget

Yes Harold Ford, the former representative, swift boated senatorial candidate, blue dog Democrat from Tennessee.

The RNC sent out a census early this year to various members. In the cover letter, the Clintons were mentioned no less than 6 times. Three of the questions were about Senator Hillary Clinton herself. The gist of the entire thing was, you must send us money so we can keep the Clintons out of the White House. I think they hate the Clintons so much because they have never figured out how to defeat them. Maybe all the pretense of supporting Hillary is simply to turn her own party against her. And it's working pretty well, in certain circles.

Moving to MSNBC? That will make some of the ladies happy.

Pogo
Are you on a MSNBC timeout (not a criticism, I've taken several in the last few months)Harold's been there a few weeks now...regular on David Gregory's show and frequently on MoJo.
He's been quite fair and balanced....at least compared to KO, Tweety et al.
~Gidget

jeejee:

The GOP also hates the Clintons because of their "take no prisoners" style of politics.

Being an Obama supporter - and often on the other side of the Clinton Attack Machine - it seems the Republicans have a point....

Someone should warn Ford to only drink bottled water, and be sure to wash his hands after he shakes hands with anyone. In fact, a doctor's mask wouldn't be a bad idea. That wouldn't be bad advice for you either, Craig, if you're still here. Because I think the same virus causes both Obama Fever and Clinton Derangement Syndrome, and I'd hate to see you turn into one of the "pod people."

the gop hates clinton because they know that clinton can not only win, but ream them when she does.....

I've been calling Indiana voters today at headquarters.
Very nice people. Most of them voted early..very enthusiastic.

I'm home for lunch,then back to the phones.

Just saw Hillary say that if you want the car to go forward you put it in D. If you want to go backward you put it in R. Good line.

Gidg - not a boycott as such, just turned my attention to other things. I catch a little in the morning (< 30 min., and that's before the first guest comes on at 6:30), and seldom see anything in the evening now that the weather is clement, soccer season is in full swing and KO has turned his ire from Shrub to Hillary. If Craig mentions that he'll be on, I try to catch that, but that hasn't been frequent recently, and I have not seen Harold on MSNBC for a while. If either one of them starts showing up on Abrams, I'll start watching again.

The GOP also hates the Clintons because of their "take no prisoners" style of politics
More craptastic stylings from the land of Obama

Hello Lee Atwater and Karl Rove. The Republicans don't hate the Clintons because of the "take no prisoners " style. Republicans hate the Clintons because they are Democrats who didn't fold under Republican bullsh-t.

The Republicans wrote the book and if you think they are hoping it's the not Senator Clinton so they can campaign nicely, I have a commuter rail system in Central Florida I'd like to sell you.

Pogo, Craig does not get invited to Countdown anymore, because KO only wants people who support his views, and Craig has dared to not exactly agree with him in the past.

I checked in briefly recently and saw Mika make a fool of herself when questioning?? Sen .Menendez about the Hillary tax holiday.

Mike was very disrespectful and Senator M.destroyed her with the facts of the whole Clinton proposal. Mike was starting to sound like Senator Obama as she misrepresented Hillary's plan.

warren, I think Carville was right - and it seems to be spreading down to his supporters. I suggest you buckle up your knickers if Obama wins this thing. Keep this up and you'll be whining like a little girl when the repug 527s crank up their machine.

Distract, Dismiss, Deny and Demonize.

The 4 D's of the Clintonites.

Mika not Mike

Bull scheiss, Baloney, Bombast and Buncombe

4 B's of Obama Campaign

pogo:

I am not whining about these attacks. I am used to them.

I was merely pointing out that the "Clinton style" of politics is one of these reasons that there is such animosity built up in the GOP.

(Their success, etc. may also be a factor - but the wise-ass snark that often emanates from the Clintonites undoubtedly pisses people off.)

Hillary will be appearing in Central Point Thursday evening..More stops to come..

Sturg-
Buncombe....what a great word!
My new vocabulary word for the day.
Thanx!
~Gidget

Distract, Dismiss, Deny and Demonize.

The 4 D's of the Clintonites.

Posted by: warren | May 6, 2008 4:08 PM

More craptastic crap from the projection room

warren said:
I was merely pointing out that the "Clinton style" of politics is one of these reasons that there is such animosity built up in the GOP.

Warren youre venturing into Fairy Tale land with that one........that's patently absurd.

Smokey-I Agree!

With all the crap they threw against Bill Clinton, he remained one of the most popular Presidents ever;
They didn't get anything to stick then, and they won't be able to now. Because it was all a lie.

OD:

I agree Mika embarassed herself and seemed catty with Senator M.

But Senator M. did not "destroy her with facts." He quickly tried to move past discussing the merits of the issue to get into the whole - Hillary cares about lower class people and Obama does not routine.

Are you telling me you believe that routine is a "fact"?

Are you telling me you believe that routine is a "fact"?

Apparently you do evidenced by your presentations here today.

sturg:

Are you telling me you think their style has nothing to do with the animosity?

Well , if they asked me what I would do if Iran nuked Israel , this is what I would say. "I would invite Iran's leader to have dinner with me. I'd give him dinner , but no dessert. Well , okay. I'd give him a slice of pie , but NO ICE CREAM! And then I'd tell him how disappointed I am in him. REALLY disappointed. Then I would send him home with 2 slices of pie. But , remind him as we say goodbye how disappointed I am in him."

"craptastic crap "

Smokey -- I hope you are a guy. Because if you are not, you are not allowed that sort of language on this blog. If you are a woman you will just be ugly and rude.

As the 15 year old girl Roger C nailed when she was 15 once sang, "Guys Do It All The Time."

"apparently" = bullshit

Wow..the usual suspects are really upset today.

Back to the phones..

sturg, I always wondered how to spell buncombe. I thought it was buncum. Silly me.

warren, considering how civil it has been until recently when your guy decided to get mean with Hillary, I beg to differ - you are whining. Of course when any comment is made by Hillary or her staff that doesn't flatter your candidate is considered an attack, I can understand the whining.

A little side line to the subject of Morning Joe.

A few months back, Joe and Mika agreed to take one side or the other to keep the conversation going. Appearently Joe has Hillary's side when he is not interjecting republican talking points and Mika has Obama when she is not regerjetating Democratic talking points.

This is how they keep and audience and good healthy discourse. This is how a truly good show acts.

So hate Mika all you want, but understand the premise. Mika is actually one of the most even and fair pundits on the Boob Tube.

Snort....Warren utters The Word.

Warren.....I'm telling you that the gop has hated bill clinton and now hillary since 1992 and they dont need the fact that the clintons do not accept swift-boating lying down as the last two nominees did as an excuse to hate them.......they hate them because they fear them.....they know what will happen to their little house of cards when hillary is elected in november.......

pogo:

Tell yourself whatever you need to pogo. But the the voters and the Super Delegates disagree. And they are the ones who count.

pogo.......sometimes "bunkum" but I prefer the buncombe since it is reputed to have come from buncombe county nc......

Warren doesn't like to be confused by facts.
He has his baseless claims and he is sticking with them. That is the one defintiion of hope.

Patsi, for what it's worth, my mommy says that shit is not a curse word, because it's in the Bible, so BS is fine with me.

well..... I have nothing much to add to the discourse this afternoon..... except to say that I am avidly awaiting some results.....

I'm on overload for tonight..... Red Sox/ Tigers.... Celtics/Cavs.... American Idol.... and now Craig on CSpan..... I usually control the remote..... I wonder if I can make Rick's head spin tonight..... :0)

Sheila..... thanks for reminding us that shows are....... well...... shows.....

p'sssst Warren.......it's not over yet.

Patsi, for what it's worth, my mommy says that shit is not a curse word, because it's in the Bible, so BS is fine with me.

We all know there is only 1 evil empire in America and that is the NY Yankees.

warren......dude.......when the delegates and the superdelegates are so evenly split how can you make such a statement as "the delegates and the superdelegates disagree"? whassa matta you?

"So hate Mika all you want, but understand the premise"

Indeed, it is the WWF all day long
And just as real I suspect.

in case you didn't get your fix this week
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5kPY3NRz4s

Jack

Warren = Baghdad Bob or perhaps Obama Ollie

ROFL -- JeeJee -- My Mom and Ultra-Religious Granny used the word "Sheee-ice-ttttt."

So hate Mika all you want, but understand the premise"

Indeed, it is the WWF all day long
And just as real I suspect.

in case you didn't get your fix this week
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5kPY3NRz4s

Jack

warren, I don't need to tell myself anything - and I'm not the one whining about the mean Clintons.

sturg, interesting derivation - from Wiki:

In 1820, a U.S. Congressman, whose district included Buncombe County, unintentionally contributed a word to the English language. In the Sixteenth Congress, after lengthy debate on the Missouri Compromise, members of the House called for an immediate vote on that important question. Instead, Felix Walker rose to address his colleagues, insisting that his constituents expected him to make a speech "for Buncombe." It was later remarked that Walker's untimely and irrelevant oration was not just for Buncombe--it "was Buncombe." Thus, buncombe, afterwards spelled bunkum and then shortened to bunk, became a term for empty, nonsensical talk.

See, I was misspeling it all along.

the Biltmore estate is there, right? Asheville is one of my favorite partsof NC - really beautiful part of the state.

Later ds& ds.

there's s**t in the bible??

Patsi I think you should certainly speak your mind. No one else hesitates to do so !! So ... IMHO... GO FOR IT and let those who complain deal with it themselves. I am off to bed.

Comments about last night on here ... OY!

I will make no predictions about tonight's outcome, but it will be interesting as always.

Patsi: You can say anything you want, IMHO. I'm glad you're back and I enjoy your posts very much.

Jamie: Dealing with a two-year old as you know can be very frustrating at times but you do not have to justify yourself to anyone.

In fact, no one has to justify themselves to anyone. People should just try to be kinder to one another, even if our opinions differ. Much easier to say, however, than to do.

So hate Mika all you want, but understand the premise"

Indeed, it is the WWF all day long
And just as real I suspect.

in case you didn't get your fix this week
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5kPY3NRz4s

Jack

sturg:

I was speaking specifically about the unfair attacks. Exit polls from all the recent primaries - even PA - found that voters felt that Clinton attacked unfairly more so than Obama.

And I have heard several Super Delegates mention that the negative tone of the Clinton campaign was one of the reasons they came out to support Obama.

(I have not heard any Super D's mention negativity from Obama as a reason to support HRC.)

even "the voters and the superdelegates disagree" so far they are the same.....close to evenly split........you mean disagree with one another?

VP Madness

http://www.rogerailes.blogspot.com/2008_05_04_archive.html#5419680157428004472#5419680157428004472

Did something happen to the site? haven't had any more posts since4:46?

Jennbe,

I think so. It just started working again

Hi JennBe,

I think so. Its been too quiet.

JennBe-
I didn't get any new posts for two hours...then just now...a bunch...
Hmmmm...maybe the server was resting up for tonight...
~G

See...burp!

Warren said:
I was speaking specifically about the unfair attacks. Exit polls from all the recent primaries - even PA - found that voters felt that Clinton attacked unfairly more so than Obama.

And I have heard several Super Delegates mention that the negative tone of the Clinton campaign was one of the reasons they came out to support Obama.

(I have not heard any Super D's mention negativity from Obama as a reason to support HRC.)

you start with a false premise of your own choosing and then set about propping it up with with more false premises like a guy trying to guide the bowling ball after he's let it go.......

Early Indiana polls - Clinton 64% BO 36% Wish it would stay that way to the end.

Julie

Wishful thinking on Clintonite parts. We might have an Obama sweep tonight making my name come true.

"you start with a false premise of your own choosing and then set about propping it up with with more false premises like a guy trying to guide the bowling ball after he's let it go......."

pure fluff sturg.

warren.....and that was my point.....fluff

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Exit Polling Shows Wright Controversy, Economy Matter to Indiana, North Carolina Voters
by Kelley Beaucar Vlahos
Tuesday, May 6, 2008
Indiana
Update: 41,000 votes in, Hillary 61%, Obama 39%.

Update: 40,000 votes in. Hillary now at 60%, Obama 40%. They may include some Indianapolis returns as Wolf Blitzer said a few minutes ago some just came in. 2% of vote. Hillary ahead in every county reporting so far, about 15 of them.

Thanks guys, see it is working now

Will tonight determine who will challenge McCain /Romney as they go to victory?

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by Iphie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:04:45 PM EST

Indiana polls close at 6:00, yeah?
I just read that Craig Crawford will be on C-Span tonight to discuss returns -- looks like that will be my channel of choice this evening.

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/6/135922/0664

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Which presidential candidate is most in touch with average Americans?

Hillary Clinton (41%)John McCain (29%)Barack Obama (29%)

via talkleft
You gotta love the newly all important Obama surrogate Joe Andrew. Sunday, just 2 days ago, he was giving a Joe Namath guarantee that Barack Obama would win Indiana. Now I am watching him on MSNBC (the Obama News Network, as Chris "Tweety" Matthews admitted) claiming it would be a miracle like parting the Red Sea if Obama comes close in Indiana.

Andrew, the DC lawyer/lobbyist, is a hoot.

"According to CNN exit polls from Indiana and North Carolina, Sen. Hillary Clinton has an early advantage in both states."

Interesting - although can't find where CNN really said that. Perhaps wishful thinking as I heard on POTUS08 earlier that exit polls look good in NC for Obama

http://www.gaywired.com/article.cfm?id=18925§ion=67

As I post, John Gibson is discussing Obama's new "Pastor Problem" on his radio show - Rev Otis Moss III. I noticed that Moss hit Right Wing radio last week. Obama has called Rev Moss a "wonderful young pastor," and an acceptable choice to replace retiring pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright. If this goes mainstream TV, Obama will be running away from him.

Craig on now!!!

That was quick.

Way to go Obama!!

Craig looks great and sounds so smart. Yay Craig!

I thought Craig hated exit polls...

(oh well - everything is fair game in politics I guess.)

Okay that is weird. Both CNN and MSNBC are projecting an Obama win in NC, but they have 0% precincts reporting both on screen and on their web page.

Could be a "decisive" victory in NC.

First, it is a "big state". Second, Obama may win enough popular votes to start shutting down that line of attack as well. (If he exceeds her magin in PA - HRC will have some serious soul searching to do.)

The Clinton campaign is running out of arguments.

To top it off, they are showing Obama with fewer votes now. What are they using to make the forecast?

BTW, Craig is on C-SPAN2 in my area.

Third, Harold Ford said whoever won NC would win the nomination.

well...it's on to the next 6 - looks like a tie today.

It was fun ridin' on the wagon all day though

ROFL!

Ha, ha, ha! Victory in North Carolina!

No Gary numbers yet or all of NW Ind.

I want to rip Bill Clinton's eyes out

"But, after a few seconds, she affected a funny voice. 'I want to rip his eyes out!' she said, clawing at the air with her fingernails. One of her advisers gave her a nervous look. 'Kidding!' Obama said. 'See, this is what gets me into trouble."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/may/04/barackobama

Jamie - Craig is explaining it now on C-Span

Whites (63%) go Clinton by 59-36 (5% missing?). African Americans (33%) go Obama by 93-7.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#NCDEM
Need to get your hearing checked or step away from the bong

GAWLY! I guess Bill's effect in the Mayberry area of NC didn't work.

why so giddy, lads.......you think hillary's dropping out because barack wins NC?

lol

perfect example of irrational exuberance

Here's the NC Precinct reporting page. It is the 11,000 vote margin in Greensboro that is out weighing her wins in small counties.

Forgot the link

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/county/#val=NCDEMMAPPRIMARY1

I do not expect the HRC TRUE supporters to be public and as we vote in the Ausie manner.
Be assured that McCain Romney welcomes your vote and as you know in your heart of hearts, McCain is much closer to your values then he is to the right wing idiots of the republican party

Wild Bill isn't going anywhere. He is the king of the Hillbilly's!!

(Well no - that's Johnny Cash...Bill can be the Grand Pu-Ba ; )

He will be working those small towns in the in the Fall for whoever wins the nomination.

only if you did not smoke it

WooHoo

Hillary wins IN!!!

awwww....Clare McCaskill.....a real plus for Obama on MSNBC

Looks like NC will be closer than objects seem at this time.

BTW

CBS called it for Hillary - not sure about other networks - according to C-Span

The Ping Journal declared HRC for IN hours ago

POLLCAT - I think it will be too but what is your source

40% of NC early voting was African American and that's what we're seeing right now according to C-Span so they think it will tighten up as Hillary's vote starts coming in.

Well something for everyone tonight.

whai dont that feller ware a flaig peen?

--caller to cspan

Too early to call on MSNBC and CNN.

Warren - it feeds into their narrative to hold off on calling IN for Hillary and making quick call for Obama

i predict out of cable networks Fox will call it first.

next sound you will be hearing is a thundering heard of SDs coming out for Obama

I think the Obama campaign has this statement on a tape loop. It comes out after every primary.

The figures on closer in NC are based on a large turnout being helpful to Clinton. Obama was 16% a head based on early voting demographics but election day voters split with a slight trend for Clinton.

Bummer about the gas leak at Obama HQ...guess he won't be able to make his tired ole stump speech tonight

;-)

Brain - we already got a campaign song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN8dP4CoFaw

Obama to the White House!!

he said he needs more McCain supporters

LOL

but then he gave a pretty fair analysis of Obama supporter POV and Hillary supporter POV

he might have mentioned that we are ... passionate in our support.

I guess if you make enough silly predictions a certain percentage are bound to be correct.......that "psychic" network turned a handsome salary on that theory......
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut from time to time........

Don't worry Wendy. I am sure Obama will be giving a speech that will get MoJo back on his side this week.

And we all know Mika is already in the tank.

McCain Romney, We need direction and we will let you keep the change in your pocket

MSNBC...as it tries to swim its way out of it's own tsunami of Obama drool, misses the main headline based on its very own MSNBC exit polls:

"Obama rides swell of uneducated blacks to victory in North Carolina"

Honestly, if you watched Norah in all her mini-skirted glory...that was the only news...but it was the only thing she DIDN'T talk about. Hillary bascially won all the other demo groups in N.C., not to mention Indiana.

Wow. Based on that, I'm so excited about the Democratic prospects in November. All I can think of is the fact that the highest error rates on ballots in Florida in 2000 were in low-income, black precincts. Diebold will be eating Obama's "base" for breakfast.

See you in 2012, gang. Maybe by then McCain will have screwed up the world even more and the Dems will have ANOTHER mortal lock on the presidential election (not!).

Glitch in the North Carolina returns. 15% of the vote is in and it is not matching up to the exit polling.

Oh no. Poor Bambi better load up on that nicotine gum

Craig said he's tired of us! WTF?! Gee Craig...

I wouldn't mind a '66 Buick. I suppose I would have to get some wheels though....

He said he's tired of the bashing........arent most of us, as well? the ones who are still here that is.........

Congrats!! Looks like Yahoo! is reporting the CBS call of IA for Hillary.

Wow now she's won Iowa?

That's a switch!

;-)

Well kiss the 30% victory in NC goodbye
and while your are done there the 20 and the 15
It looks like Craig Crawford is Carnac...9%.

Chuck Todd is still thinks Rudy has a chance.

Mr. Crawford

I called into CSPAN tonight and spoke to you. Indeed the sleeper issue of this election: DEATH. If people vote for McCain they vote to continue a REPUBLIKLAN Party FDA that killed thousands of vioxx users, a REPUBLIKLAN NASA that killed 14 astronauts, a REPUBLIKLAN Defense department that killed 1 million innocent Iraqis, a REPUBLIKLAN Mine Safety and Health administration that killed several coal miners and a REPUBLIKLAN FEMA that let thousands die in New Orleans.

I'm proud of America but Ashamed of the REPUBLIKLAN Party. The Republiklan party kills people plain and simple and that gives independent voters several reasons not to vote for McLame.

Go to this website and take back America. http:////democratz.org

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Call your local Exxon/Mobil gas station and tell the manager that you will not get your car repaired there, nor will you buy gasoline there until their parent company sets their price so that they can sell you gasoline for $1.75 a gallon. Then only do business with other gas stations. We will no longer stand for $3 a gallon gasoline.

Call GOP contributor and war contractor General Electric Corporation at 800 386 1215 and tell the person, that you want the GE CEO to get Bush to end the war in Iraq and then Bush resign with Cheney and until that happens you will not buy any GE products and that you will tell your friends. Then call a local appliance store that sells GE products and tell the person you will not buy any GE products from their store until they can convince the GE CEO to convince George W Bush to end the war.

Who isn't getting tired of us?

Anybody I am close to is pretty much sick of hearing me talk about politics.

(That is why it is fun to come here ; )

Senator Claire McBuzzkill -- I am so tired of her.

Hear that Craig!!

Obama gets Ron Paul's supporters AND F. Thompson's.

(I guess McCain gets Rudy's votes and the Huck's votes are up for grabs.)

Anybody who insists that you fly the flag or wear a flag pin, I call a FLAGGOT.

What does a FLAGGOT mean? A FLAGGOT refers to a person who cares too much about the red white and blue but not about me and you.

http://democratz.org

Alicia:

"Senator Claire McBuzzkill -- I am so tired of her."

That is because she is good! (It is the same reason why I always get tired of Wendy ; )

Craig's calling the Obama supporters out on C-Span right now.

Warren -- I am tired of you too, dahlink.

What did he say Wendy? I was listening to the Obama Channel....

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We are getting rid of the dumb old bashers.

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Here come those smart nice C-spaners

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You Obama supporters trying to end the party before the votes are counted. How consistent.

Under 30% votes counted and the NC margin just gets smaller and smaller

Sheila -- He said basically that Obama supporters need to be careful not to classify white voters as racist if they don't support Obama.

STICK A FORK INTO HILLARY. SHE APPERS DONE.

He said he thought it was very dangerous of Obama supporters to accuse anyone that supports Hillary of being a racist because it doesn't bode well for bringing the party together later. I think the exit polls in many of the states that have voted recently show that this is true. Especially when the candidate himself is also perpetuating that same myth.

Thank you Wendy. ;0)

Hey Democratz (aka Dr. DEATH) - I'm already tired of you too -- and you just got here.

He's being Very Gracious right now. Good for Obama

yeah......if youre going to type in all caps, the least you can do is spell correctly........

Obama is flip flopping - he now says Hillary can get his voters too.

ROFL

I thought he didn't like to pander?

;-)

Divalicious,

You get any tireder, you're going to turn into Rip Van Winkle. : )

GO Obama ;0) Lets be united in November!

I'm still not impressed with him Sistah Sheila. I am soooo tired of that idiotic chanting.

That's Ok Sista Alicia (rhymes ;0) ) You will be someday. Your a very intelligent woman and sometimes it just takes time.

Divalicious,

You get any tireder, you're going to turn into Rip Van Winkle. : )

Creeping closer in Indiana...4% behind... Go Obama!

I just saw that exit polls say Obama should win by 13% in NC - if he over polls as he's been apt to do in the past - looks like a 9%-10% win in NC for O'.

Looks like Craig was right. OK OK Craig You WIN!

Looks like he may have been right about Hillary too.

At least next week we'll all be talking about Hillary's 30% win in WV

;-)

Obama was first supposd to win Indi, yes? He will lose that State. Obama was expected to win NC and has done that with 90% voting by AAs. The dynamic hasn't changed and the margin of the NC vote will come down. Still Obama calls NC a big state and a swing state that needs him to be won in the GE.

Nothing new for me tonight. And the comments by Obama supporters are class. Clinton should stick a fork in Obama's balloon and see how far it spurts.

It's all okay. I congratulate Obama for at least winning NC with the campaigning that Jason was so kind to share with us. I don't doubt Obama will have his surrogates call McCain supporters racists. He has practically has that already the day McCain was visiting poor Blcak towns in the South. What a complete mess. Should Flordia be seated after Hillary is forced out, I can predict the results as surely as I knew them tonight. Craig knew them too. And which talking head (a Black woman) said on CNN the Democrats don't need the blue collar white vote? What genius, what aplomb. Bravo. This all makes it so much easier for this racist to decide.........

ROFL

Ah, don't worry. Billary has us prepared to deal with racist Republicans.

Hey Ya'll, We Obama supporters are not silly. We knew it wouldn't be a 20 point spread. Clinton has been consistantly popular with almost half (almost) the population. That is seriously commendable for BOTH candidates.

So we win another big state and you win Indiana and both campaigns win big one more time. But sooner of later we have to come back together.

Party Cracking Up? And Do You Even Care?

"These primary voters may get some SELF-satisfaction out of voting for Barack Obama because it makes THEM feel good, but they are not THINKING AHEAD to the general election — when John McCain will easily trounce Obama if he’s the general election nominee."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/06/party-cracking-up-and-do-you-even-care/

Wendy,

Obama's natural base numbers would give him around a 10pt lead in NC, If he doesn't do 10% he is falling behind. He isn't even keeping the base together.

As is seems like almost every election, He gets blacks , college kids and latte liberals. She gets women and the working vote. Same story different day.

None of it looks good for the general election.

Jack

The Big O!!

Well....it would be nice to be wrong ;0) Four points out is pretty close....I'll be darned!

pogo...

Hillary said in the debate that if she were President the United States would massively retaliate against Iran.

What massive retaliation do we have besides nuclear bombs?

Maxtrue...

I guess it was alright for Israel to drop cluster bombs, which is banned for use in populated areas, that killed Lebanese Christians in Lebanon when they drop all those bombs recently.

And since you believe that its alright to Torture those in our custody makes you no better than the War Criminals currently running it.

And no I am not anti semantic, I find it very troubling for those of Jewish Heritage to side with those who use the same tactics as many other Dictators around the world both past and present use.

With Hitler it was Gypsies, Blacks and Jew's. With many Americans today it is Blacks, Hispanic's and Muslims.

I remember Tancredo once saying we shouldn't elect any Muslim to hold public office before a Muslim won a seat in Congress. He's a true Whites Only American and a bigot and racist.

You sound just like him in your anti Muslim comments you post all the time. I wouldn't be surprised if you were a member of the KKK or the American Nazi Party. So screw you and what you think of me because I don't give a flying **ck.

Craig Crawford said (5.00 / 1) (#51)
by Iphie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:34:30 PM EST

that he has spoken to SDs who believe that even if Obama loses the election, it will still be good for Democrats, because he is the future of the Democratic Party.
Excuse me? There are SDs who have actually said out loud that it's okay if Obama loses? And their view of the Democratic Party of the future is based on a losing presidential election! I am dumbfounded, perhaps he misspoke, but I'm having such a hard time imagining it to be true.

How very Kerry of them.

"Hillary said in the debate that if she were President the United States would massively retaliate against Iran.

What massive retaliation do we have besides nuclear bombs?"

You got it Anon that is exactly what she meant.

I'm damn glad she said it.
Just understand , if you use the bomb you and all you hold dear are dead.
That is deterence, it works.

Jack

Alicia:

"Sheila -- He said basically that Obama supporters need to be careful not to classify white voters as racist if they don't support Obama."

I have always said that a lot of white people are voting for Hillary because she is a great candidate, millions love her and many loyal Dems are loyal to the Clintons.

(I learned after a just few weeks here that I was not winning over any Clintonites.)

30% of the County wants Obama, 30% wants Clinton - and 40% are on the McCain/GOP ship, which has been taking on water for years (almost eight of the worst years in recent memory to be exact ; ).

Obama spreadsheet said they would win by 12 in Indiana and more in NC

Neither goal was met. The cable talking heads are panning the Obama speech.

Lynn

There are a portion of the Democratic left who believe it is better to go down in flames supporting the noble cause than to compromise and win. I don't understand them but they are out there.

Jack

For the Clinton supporters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtkVGClqrT4

Hey Craig,
I went to a few blogs tonight and pointed them to your broadcast on C-Span. They were complaining about the biased coverage on many of the cable stations so I told them to tune in to you. Your fan base is growing. I am reading nothing but glowing reports of your analysis.

ROFL - OK - that was mean

Caller on C-Span said he worked at Wal-Mart and host asked:

"How's that going for ya?"

pogo:

How bout we run those popular vote totals again?

Gov. Rendell was pretty clear on that being a hurdle HRC had to get over to even to have a chance at the nomination.

(Alright - no more cheap shots unless someone punches me first.)

And I think we should celebrating the impending doom of the GOP.

"Obama was expected to win NC and has done that with 90% voting by AAs"-Maxtrue

So what, Slick got 83% in 92

Man....Indiana feels like the GE.....

I still think the democratic party has given Hillary a raw deal.If Obama gets the nomination he will lose general,so our only chance is for Hillary to run as a third party candidate.I think she can win it if everyone gets a chance to vote including Fla.and Mi. and all those voters who were disenfranchised with the caucuses.Then we will finally have three viable parties and may the best candidate win.The way the party has treated the Clinton's,she owes them no loyalty.
Ruth

Craig........thanks once time more for sharing your views wit us'ns..........It's a true pleasure being able to share in all this.......

Thanks for the reminder Sheila, I remember going to bed thinking we'd lost, and then I woke up.......

Harold Ford has been soooo impressive. I wish he would have won that race. too bad we have to wait a while longer before he's in the House or Senate again.

http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/NC/1875/3747/en/summary.html
NC Board of Elections. Less then half counted and already only 12 points difference. Expected to shrink to nine.

w

Lynn C,,,,

Good and thank you. ;0)

Max:

Your 9:27 post has too many mischaracterizations for me to untangle.

("Operation Chaos" has failed!!)

We know Obama can't beat McCain so if we don't want another 4 years with Republicans in charge a third party may be the only chance we have
Ruth

Wendy:

"Plus if O' does get the nom-when he loses in the Fall, Hill can run in 2012."

No need to spread this nonsense. It paints Hillary in a very bad light.

(and it is total BS!)

That funny Ruth, Last time I looked there was at least some of us on this blog that feel Obama can pull it off. I also distinctly remember Senator Clinton saying she would Campaign her heart out for this Presidency. She knows how important it is for the country.

So, there is no 100% WE. just pointing that out.

Ruth:

"We know Obama can't beat McCain"

Who told you this?

Cause the Clinton campaign and the GOP are biased - and the media is just plain stupid.

(And the election is 6 months away!!)

Hey, where's Mojo tonight on MSNBC?

OK - it's been fun

on to West Virginia -

Jennbe,

Joe and Mika are on first thing tomorrow. They have to try and sleep.

k

HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH MCCAIN: In a hypothetical general election match-up with McCain, Clinton wins handily (50-41) while Obama is virtually tied with McCain (46-44), according to the AP-Ipsos poll released Monday. A new poll from CBS/NYT show Clinton beating McCain by five points (48-43), while Obama ties McCain (45-45). The new Fox poll has Clinton beating McCain by one point (45-44), while Obama trails McCain by three points (43-46). And in Gallup's daily tracking poll, Clinton leads McCain by one point (46-45) while Obama trails McCain by two points (44-46).

"SWING STATES: New Quinnipiac polls out today show Clinton dramatically outperforms Obama in the critical swing states of Ohio in Florida. In Ohio, Clinton beats McCain by ten points (48-38), while Obama loses to him by one point (43-44). In Florida, Clinton beats McCain by 8 (49-41), while Obama loses to him by one point (42-43). Hillary also tops McCain by 14 points in Pennsylvania (51-37), while Obama's lead over McCain is in single digits.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/hillary-clinton.html

JennBe

MoJo is probably getting his rest to have an Obama-fest tomorrow.

(The weather is delightful in NYC and I am looking forward to seeing what Mika will be wearing in the a.m.)

I hope Hillary fights on, tooth and claw...........if she were my daughter I'd expect no less.........

We need a third party, a party that will count Florida's votes. What an outrage not to count our votes.

LOL Sheila, yes but he is usually on on primary night.

It's not over. Can you say "brokered convention"?

full speed......on to the white house.

---Hillary Clinton......Indiana, May, 2008

Unbelievable, she is claimimg victory?

LOLOL

HRC congratulated Obama on his win.

(That was nice . . . she doesn't always do that.)

I think Wild Bill is tearing up. (He is having a New Hampshire Moment.)

That "hillaryclinton.com" line is so stale and does she has to say it everytime?

Lisa Caputo? kaputo. Hillary? Full speed.....on to the white house.

I thought she was from PA?

Sorry....it was the Hillary.com. Spunk.

Bill has a strong feminine side....

(no pun intended ; )

That was nice . . . she doesn't always do that.)

bullshit a lie and a cheap shot.

I think Bill knows its over. He wears his heart on his sleeve.

(Even though the guy lied a few times - he never was really good at it.)

Bill clinton looks like a man who's been working hard.

See Ruth,

Hillary will work for the NOM of the Democratic Party.

Warren,
Lynn just showed you the polls that show McCain will beat Obama.And the exit polls show more than 50% of Hillary supporters will either vote for McCain or stay home.I don't owe democrats anything.I will gladly support a third party candidate if I feel he or she would be the best leader.
Ruth

I think Bill knows its over. He wears his heart on his sleeve.

(Even though the guy lied a few times - he never was really good at it.)

Why can't she take the high road and step down?

Because she's not a quitter.

Wow.....is this goodbye?

Nobody told Ronald Reagan to take the high road
and get out.

And the fact is, the media's get-out-now push is unparalleled. Strong second-place candidates such as Ronald Reagan (1976), Ted Kennedy, Gary Hart, Jesse Jackson, and Jerry Brown, all of whom campaigned through the entire primary season, and most of whom took their fights all the way to their party's nominating conventions, were never tagged by the press and told to go home.

"Clinton is being held to a different standard than virtually any other candidate in history," wrote Steven Stark in the Boston Phoenix. "When Clinton is simply doing what everyone else has always done, she's constantly attacked as an obsessed and crazed egomaniac, bent on self-aggrandizement at the expense of her party."

http://mediamatters.org/columns/200804300001

sorry demoncracy bores you

and......as you know..........Quitters never win......and winners never quit..........just remember Vince Lombardi and Bear Bryant.........Win.

Sounds like it to me Sheila!

and......as you know..........Quitters never win......and winners never quit..........just remember Vince Lombardi and Bear Bryant.........Win.

Where the hell is Kentucky.... is that a State. :)

Ruth:

What the Clinton campaign did not get (and in particular Chief Pollster - Mark Penn) - just because they base their decisions on "polls" - does not mean that everyone else should base their decisions on "polls".

To quote Dick Cheney: "So?"

Polls are NOT facts.

(and you can usually find a poll to support any sort of argument if you look hard enough.)

Not yet Jennbe,

I just think she will end it in June when all the votes are finally counted....although I am surprised by all the thankyous and the unhappy Bill Clinton face....

She knows it is over, now she needs to publicly admit it.

j

She wont quit, little guys, no matter how much you want your shiney new bicycle......we cant afford it now.....she will not quit........get ready for the long hard slog........

tt
laissez les bon temps roulez..........

military suicide report on cspan 2 next.........

"Warren's pants are on fire"

"For the second election night in a row, Hillary Clinton failed to acknowledge or congratulate Barack Obama after he won the day in dominating fashion."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/12/clinton-still-no-congratulations-for-obama/

That is CNN wise ass.

(So I guess there is no longer a need to just assume you are lying all the time. It explains all the name changes to protect the guilty.)

Rez -- Kentucky is a Commonwealth. One that will go for Hillary Clinton.

"She wont quit, little guys, no matter how much you want your shiney new bicycle......we cant afford it now.....she will not quit........get ready for the long hard slog........"

Go take a vacation sturg. We got this under control.

I did not just hear what I heard did I? Hillary will try to make a deal with the BO campaign to have them pay off her debt in order to get her to leave the race? On mSNBC by Russert

quite snappy, warren.......I can tell youre a past master of repartee........but guess what.......she aint quitting.

"One that will go for Hillary Clinton." -Diva

I guess that's why I forgot.:-)

So just how Democratic is Hillary Clinton? Go to link and see her wearing her Republican Flag Pin.

http://loc.rousefamily.com/leftofcentrist/?p=330

And no the photo is not photo shopped. I wonder what would happen if enough SD's pledged to Obama giving him 2209 Delegates that even seating Michigan and Florida wouldn't matter.

Then we will all hear from the Hillary supporters about how now all the Democrats are Traitors and Judases.

Don't forget to see Hillary wearing her Republican Flag Pin.

God Bless.

Jennbe,

Theory, but not a bad one...

Clinton congratulates,- First Read - msnbc.comFeb 13, 2008 ... "I want to congratulate Sen. Obama on his recent victories and tell ... was able to muster in Virginia and Maryland,
firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/13/662720.aspx

Looks like you are still a liar.

Clinton congratulates, - First Read - msnbc.comFeb 13, 2008 ... "I want to congratulate Sen. Obama on his recent victories and tell ... was able to muster in Virginia and Maryland.
firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/13/662720.aspx

Looks like you are still a liar

Sheila, Tim Russert just spent 15 minites talking about it. I will have to say that if that came to be I would be very disappointed, She needs to pay her own bills because she choose to keep this farce going.

Pat B. is a political genius. (He sometimes gets a bad rap for pointing out some of this Country's flaws.)

But I will certainly acknowledge some of his bad rap is well-deserved.

(But people can change ; )

If Hillary wants to retire her debt she can do it out of her petty cash........not to mention her future speaking fees.....
She's not quitting.

So,

Obama maniacs

How does your man get out of the box he has put himself in.

He can only win in urban areas and college towns.

He has little support out side of those areas. Most especially the important swing votes in the suburbs and exurbs.
His 2 cochairs of his campaign have behaved in a shameful manner toward women. They and other supporters have insulted women from coast to coast with impunity never once even chastised by Obama himself. His scorched earth style of campaigning has isolated himself from half the democratic party and this half of the party is the one that finds it easy to walk away.

So he has 1/2 of 35% of the voters supporting him. He has pissed off as many as he has attracted

Never mind that says it all
lol.

This party is so fing screwed.

Jack

jeebus........nobody's gonna have to worry about taking care of iraq veterans........they're all killing themselves......

Jennbe,

that's backroom politics and its been done before. But before you get upset, remember the spin that is coming out of this show to keep the minutes ticking away until the end of the Indiana returns.

I haven't seen Craig on C-Span and am sorry to hear that he is not happy with us bloggers, but I'm not surprised. The comedian Ron White says his sister is a doctor and his brother is a lawyer and he hates Thanksgiving. I agree with his sentiment, even if the sister is the lawyer and brother the doctor, and hope the kidding is really just kidding now.

harborwoman and Jason, did you see my comments to you on the last day?

Jeffrey Toobin just made some really good comments on the lateness of the reporting fromLake County. He said it's disgraceful (my word) and reeks of the old days of Chicago politics, counting votes only till they had the number they need.

I was in college in Illinois when JFK and RMN slugged it out. The whole thing c came down to Chicago and Cook county. All the kids from C hicago got a good laugh out of it - they knew what Cook Co would do. I was surprised at what Toobin said - it was a really strong criticism and came close to questioning the count.

Donna Brazile and many Obama supporters (see Chris Bowers for instance) think Democrats can win in November without white working class voters. I believe they are wrong.

Barack Obama's "big night" was not fueled by solving this electability problem. He lost whites in North Carolina by 61-37. He lost whites in Indiana by 60-40. He won African Americans 91-7 in North Carolina. He won African Americans in Indiana by 92-8.

Obama won North Carolina because African Americans were 33% of the vote. Obama kept it close in Indiana because African Americans were 15% of the vote. In terms of the electability problems Obama is facing, nothing changed tonight. And West Virginia next week will confirm that. More . . .

http://www.talkleft.com/

does someone have some sort of proof that hillary is looking to squirm out of her campaign debts? No?

good.

she's not quitting and she can and will pay her own way.

JennBe...

Hell the Clintons made $109 Million Dollars last year didn't they? And she is in debt and I also believe it was mentioned that perhaps she loaned more of her money to the campaign.

Why the Hell should Obama give her her own money back? Let her be responsible for her own debt like all of us common folk are. Or is she an Elitist?

God Bless.

Jack,

6 months is a long time.

And while you are on the subject, you've been on this blog too much. With all the mis-information that I've seen here, no wonder you are upset.

Six months is a long time.... ;0)

"Jack ass"

I am talking about during the speeches to voters on the night of the primaries and caucuses. And I have heard speeches with my own two ears where she did not.

From your link:

"I want to congratulate Sen. Obama on his recent victories and tell him to meet me in Texas," she told reporters after a rally here in this majority-Hispanic border town."

Oh
lol
I forgot

He can't even fight his way out of that silly gas tax wet paper bag Clinton put him into this week.

He's a rookie phenom, got one pitch, not ready for the big leagues.

Say "Hello, President McCain"

Jack

Rez -- You also planning to forget California, PA, NY, NJ, RH, TX, AR, FL,MI,MA, NH, OH, NV, NM, AZ, OK?

The more you Obama people talk, the more I'm thinking I might just be able to get along with a McCain presidency.

"But as the race has shifted to a delegate chase with dozens of states in play around the country, the notion of congratulating one’s opponent seems, for Clinton, to have fallen by the wayside."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/12/clinton-still-no-congratulations-for-obama/

AP --------------------------------

You like to make reference to Der Fuheur - this video is for you. Understand the point being made?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLyoaHJuGTU&feature=related

AP, they will not want to part with a dime, ; ).

Anon -- I am tired of your signing off every snarky thing you write with "God Bless."

Goddess Bless,

Alicia, That has been Anon's calling card for 3 years now.

I'm sure we would welcome another blessing in this crowd!

From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones
MCALLEN, Texas, Feb. 13 -- Hillary Clinton congratulated rival Obama on his primary wins

hey asswipe that is congratulating him
More than he did most of the time including tonight

Calling her win in Indiana an "apparent victory"
suck it up jerk you're stuck with a loser. Of course it won't mak that much difference to you who the president is...to you it is just so much theoretical bullshit.

Like Hillary said - the world was watching tonight!!

Lynn C:

You are taking Donna B.'s words out of context.

Jeffrey Toobin on CNN says the Gary delays are very suspicious and they are not known for thier honestly

Jeffery Tobin said that the Gary area vote delay is unheard of and there are a lot of problems with voting in that area. Says that voting problems are sneaky problems like not ethical and it needs to be said and watched.
Also was stated that it's "old" Chicago politics and the hours of the polls being open were weird.

I paraphrased but that he sounded an alarm.

How Kennedy like to have Chicago style politics steel the election

"The Mayor Gary just predicted when the vote is counted Obama will have won Indiana"

LOL
I believe it

I bet the a bunch of them vote in alphabetical order.

Jack

GORDO...

Here's one for you to watch as you are selling Republican talking points all the time.

http://www.youtube.com/v/nmfzDHyN9G0&rel=1"

Understand the point being made as to what Hitler is saying? I have heard these same words spoken by Republicans though maybe not in the exact words, but the same words anyway you take it.

Enjoy this message from your Fuehrer.

Hey
boss

It's all that new politics ya know

LOL
Trust the Chicago machine

Jack

Lake County - voter fraud?

Axelrod has given up and gone home and issued this statement

Graceless loser?

Via Fox: David Axlerod attributes Hillary's better numbers in Indiana to Rush Limbaugh.

It was an open primary. 11% of voters in the Democratic primary said they were Republicans -- half of those said they voted for Hillary. There's no support for the theory that this 5.5% listened to Rush. It's just as likely they are sick of Bush and don't like McCain and prefer Hillary to Obama. 5.5% voted for Obama. Maybe they listened to Rush but decided Obama is the more unelectable against McCain and wanted him to be the nominee to help McCain win in November. Six of one, half dozen of the other.

Obama urged Republicans and Independents to register as Dems and vote for him in earlier primary caucuses and primaries. I guess what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander in Obama's world.

Gary, IN -- Is that were the footage of the Obama campaign working to persuade voters inside the 40 foot line -- actually inside the polling place? I sent that to a friend on the BOE here in VA and she was appalled that was going on in IN, saying that heads would roll if something like that happened here. .

Sheila...

There are some here I certainly don't wish well and will not leave my blessing for good on them.

You on the other hand I certainly will.

God Bless.

Alicia, lighten up. . just teasing a bit.. . damn.

Thanks Annon-P

I can always use it and back attcha!

AP----------------------

Watched your video. He reminds me of Axelrod. You have been brainwashed.

Its now 2% points in Indy.

So lets see if I got this right. Hillary says Eight Belles was just like her. Eight Belles came in Second and broke both front legs which left her owner with no choice but to put her down.

So Hillary lost one leg in NC and if she loses and breaks her other leg in Indy will her campaign put her down?

After all she would have come in Second twice.

God Bless.

"to persuade voters" -Alicia

that's a stretch.. . it was more about voter suppression aid. Talk about seeing the negative in everything Obama.
Why wouldn't the precinct proctor just run them off and be done with it.

It is 6 am here and I got to get to work. My reaction is that this race, if not over, is certainly close. I know Hillary does not want to quit, and maybe I am wrong, but I think it's not feasible to go on. I am disappointed and surprised at the NC margin and worried about what will happen when Gary Indiana manipulates its vote count. It is clear to me that the DNC has no intention of "seating" the Florida or Michigan delegations in any way that could alter Barack Obama's delegate strength.

If I were Craig, I wouldn't be happy with us either. (re: tone and fighting).

Anon -- You are so nasty.

God help you,

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/6/221614/3546

transcript of the Begala, Brazille Brown discussion.

GORDO...

If you google I'm sure you will find many examples of those words or words to the same effect being pushed by many Republicans.

Even instituting a Torture Program out of the Peoples House. And I bet you just love the term Homeland that is spoken all the time by your Republican friends. You and Maxtrue push the same talking points all the time.

We don't really need to hear what you believe the Fascist Republicans will do in November. We all know what the bigoted racists will do as we've seen it over and over again.

You are trying to brainwash the Obama supporters as well as the Clinton supporters about who's electable and who's not.

The Republicans would like nothing better than to have Hillary the nominee since that would unite their base like it hasn't been in a long time.

But go ahead and keep it up, its nice seeing the Republicans like you sweating about the election come November. That is if we have elections.

How many times has the Loony Left taken the Dem Party over the cliff? Now it looks like voter fraud. Did anyone else hear the reporter on Fox News talk about trying to find out about the vote count? Could see that she was suspicious.

bethyboo...

I saw your comments, and enjoyed reading them and learning more about you. Thanks for the response!

Now Gordo, Why would WE be watching FAUX News?

;0)

Popular vote:

PA = Clinton +214,115

NC = Obama +212,196*

*votes still being counted

Rez -- I've been an election observer in states where voter suppression is a problem, namely NC and VA. In VA we are not allowed to have any signage from the campaign -- which is what was on the sign inside that polling place. I've seen voting "assistance" in Charlotte NC where we were able to run off the white GOP goon squads threatening the older black people, challenging their right to vote, only to find out much later on election day that the GOP had voter assistants inside the polling places asking certain people - mostly black, mostly elderly, some disabled -- if they would like some help with voting. Then they would go inside the voting booth with the voter and "help" them vote! In that large-percentage black district, the DEM congressional candidate lost by a hair, and went overwhelmingly for Jessie Helms.

Election officials are far from perfect. I've had to set many of them straight on Voting Rights and election laws. If there was a GOP voter assistant "helping" in some of the precincts around here -- I know that some of the EOs would not run them off -- unless I called them on it and even then not until I threatened to call the BOE and our party lawyers.

Well Jack ,.

I don't suppose you could wait and watch and see. 6 months is a long time in Politics.

Jack:

6 months ago - Clinton was the "inevitable nominee".

Obama's support is growing. McCain's isn't....

How bout:

Obama/Rendell '08 - "a real change"

No one call the lawyers!! They are worse than politicians!!

Warren -- Are you trying to make a joke? (crickets) Lawyers who work to protect voting rights are heroes.

No way!

(Bayh is an elitist. J/K - but he is a bit of a stiff.)

If you want white working class voters - Obama needs to go for Hillary, Rendell or Webb.

(Or how bout Lee Hamilton?)

Alicia:

I am a shark myself.

NC just went to 15% for Obama. He just wiped out the gain she had in PA. And it looks like Obama will take Indy too.

God Bless.

"Obama's support is growing"

warren
No its not,
he is getting the same group of votes he always gets. In fact he has been trending away from deversifying his base and has been narrowing it.
He had a much more diverse set of supporters here in Missouri than he did in similar states like Ohio or Indiana.

Chef Sheila Hussein The Nun ----------

Guess you forgot, gave you this link before.

Gov. Ed Rendell on Fox & Friends

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64PRLw9nW2U&eurl=http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0308/Gov_Rendell_Fox_is_most_objective_cable_network.html

S Alicia, if I get what you said;

this may or may not have been proper (legal) depending on State law. And if it not legal then the EO may have just turned the other way because they supported Obama.

All of which is speculative on our part. But the implication is that this was a concerted widespread strategy of the Obama campaign. I sure don't know that. If so it was improper and I'm sure someone will be held to account.

The reason i was thinking aid for voter suppression is because of the voter ID law in IN which lends itself to problems.

Ultimately, do you honestly think a table set-up like i saw in the video would result in changing the outcome.

Don't take Webb -- we need him here in VA. We don't have another one lined up to take his place.

Well folks, I have to go lay down and watch from my bed.

I can't believe it has come to this. Congrats to all and on to success in November!

As Renee would say, "GO DEMOCRATS!"

I am a big fan of Claire. And she was big in Missouri which was big for Obama.

Alicia

That's why I call their party the REPUBLIKLAN Party. The vote suppression of 2000 involved removing 50,000 names of African Americans from the Florida voter rolls BEFORE the 200 election by Jeb Bush.

Now for everyone.

STICK A FORK IN HILLARY. SHE APPEARS DONE.

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Sheila,

I'm unsurprised that you have no answer except don't worry.
It seems to be the fashion amoung Obama supporters.

Good night

Jack

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Actually, the Republican Flag Pin on Hillary was Photoshopped. I should know. I'm the one who did it. It was meant as a humorous jab at her appearing on the O'Reilly Factor and meeting with Richard Mellon Scaife.

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