Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

WOO HOO?

There is something seriously wrong with this site Craig......

But other than that? I agree with you!

Or, they both could quit and give their candidates to Mr Biden.

Afternoon peeps,
A friend IMed me while I was out saying Hillary is having a problem getting the SDs to meet with her, but he didn't give me a link, anyone else heard this?

i don't want Obama as my president..you see i have had to suffer while Bush stumbled and mumbled and Obama mumbles just like him...this is a race for the white house and people act like it's American Idol

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It was frfom Drudge Brian. "CONGRESSIONAL SOURCE: Hillary having trouble finding superdelegates who will meet with her... 'No one wants to see her today'... Developing... "

No story with it though

Emmy,

Then Vote for McCain. Pure and simple.

I see that Drudge is flinging the super delegate refusal around today. Aparently, no one wants to meet with Clinton today.

If you believe Drudge's sourses. ;0)

vadaryl,
Oregon has become one of those bastions of liberalism, and I think has a pretty high percentage of college educated and younger population.

Sheila, Nash, Brian, Warren & BO supporters.

The Obama supporters right on this blog have called the clinton supporters, Wh***s, serial killers, racist, b*****s, and numerous other names. Like to rub it in thickly when she loses.They have called Hillary the same, plus BO gave her the finger and the brush off. Used Dirty rapper songs He is not presidential material. Not even good Senate material.
Yet you all have the gall to say, oh just suck it up and vote for him now. I would not vote for him now if he was running for s*** shoveler. Memories are long and being rude, & nasty is not justified. To Hillary or to us clinton bloggers. A conversation is one thing, personal assault is something else..
Look how many clinton people yesterday and today said congratulations. The BO group certaintly does not do that. I think Warren may have said congrads for Indiana.When he loses in November, there are going to be a lot of I told you so.

Julie

Brian,

Don't forget a fairly large gay and lesbian population.

Craig, has your IT guy checked to see if you're not under some type of denial of service attack?

Sheila drudge sure hit the nail on the head regarding NC.

Obama gains superdelegates after trading wins with Clinton
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080507/ap_on_el_pr/primary_rdp

So far that makes 4 today.

Don't worry Julie. I can be sure to get you up-to-speed on Jay Z before the general election.

http://www.bossip.com/10459/beyonce-jay-z-diddy-and-bets-robert-johnson-dont-support-obama/

(that "dirty rapper" isn't so bad anyways....he supported Clinton!!)

And Julie 73,

With everything that was written today, if you are still freaking out, then I say

GREAT! Vote for McCain. Its your right and your privelege. No one is forcing you to do anything you would feel violated for. So with a bow, I say go for it. ;0)

You would never have voted for Obama ever, anyway, apparently.

Maybe I should move!

jeejee,

I have seen Matewan, and it is a spectacular movie. How long ago did you teach in War? A lot of the mountaintops are lower than they used to be.

Brian,

I'm not sure you would flourish in the clean air....and oh, you have to drive a care there. ;0)

With the recent vote in NC why hasn't John Edwards endorsed? He is a super delegate and has 22 delegates.

Senator Sherrod Brown another uncommited Super Delegate won't be making up mind until June
http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/gov/2008/05/ohios-top-superdelegate-speaks.asp

Hey Emmy, Julie

Come on down the water is fine. Welcome to the land of the split ticket. A moderate like McCain is just what we need. Let the wingnuts slam it out. Mud wrestling with the fat boys Rush and Michael. I'll bring the drinks if someone brings the popcorn.

A vote for McCain is a vote for death, if you're comfortable with that Julia by all means you should vote McDeath. Your vote, your choice.

Julie,

i agree with the others, vote your pleasure.

If I recall correctly, as an Okie, your dem vote whether for Hill or Joe Blow from Broken Bow will not have much impact.

I hate the current Electoral College system.

Bravo Craig,

Well said and well reasoned.

Hillary will not Quit! Why should she.

Lynn I've been thinking a lot about Edwards today, I think he may end up being the one to go to Hillary and telling her it's time to quit the race if it starts to look like she's dragging it out too long.

jeejee, now you have given me the mental image of repug heads exploding in the halls of congress. LMAO!! tytyty!! finally, something in the realm of politics worth smiling about today. :-)

shiela, you have so many interesting and well thought out positions. i enjoy reading your posts even when i don't agree. but please don't assume that you know how others think or who they would have voted for. you don't.

"you should vote McDeath"

Hey, Julie
And I can spell your name
I didn't even have time to pop a top on a cold one.
One of Michael's boys lets loose with a hand full of poo.

Looks to be fun

I need to learn how to quote the comments here..
Pogo, it was longer ago than I care to remember.

Jamie, safety classes are a good idea, but even adults have accidents.

And, finally, Warren, I know it's wrong, but it would feel so good!

OK, I'm out of here now, taking my cat to the vet, if I can find him.

Role of the Super Delegates
...... contradicted the entire purpose of super-delegates as a fail-safe mechanism for preventing voters from picking an unelectable candidate.

Ms Pelosi now says that as chairwoman of the Convention in August it is important to let the campaigns “work their way through this”.

Mr Reid agrees that the party should wait until the final primaries in South Dakota and Montana have taken place on June 3 before annointing a nominee. “It will end pretty soon after that,” he said in an interview published yesterday
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3883034.ece

Nick she should quit because it's not about Hillary.

nannymm,

I would never suppose that ever. I'm a little confused, by your remark. But I am sure you have a good reason for it. So I will say, thank you.

No, she shouldn't quit -- every state should have their say.

Brian, in case you did not notice, my comment was to Craig.

That's quite a nose you've got on you.

Sheila, I was referring to your post today at 3:24. In addressing Julie you said, "You would never have voted for Obama ever, anyway, apparently."
Did I misunderstand you? Or did you mispeak? If it is the former, please accept my apology.

Pug,

Thank you, but I believe I will set this voting season out.
I am however leaving the democratic party. I am registering as an independent and hoping my ancestors do not turn over in their graves.
Julie

I can understand feeling angry when your candidate has lost, after all, for us political junkies we get rather emotionally invested in this stuff. What don't understand is this need several of you have to come in and announce you are voting for McDeath if Hillary isn't the nomination. In all candor I don't get it, but then again I take great pride in being a Democrat. I don't understand how one who claims to believe in what Hillary believes in could vote for McDeath, but hey that's me. The only appropriate response I can think of to give is "live long and prosper". And to be honest , does it matter? there aren't enough of you to make up for what is going to be an overwhelming Democratic victory come November. If you think your voting out of spite is going to have an impact I'm sorry to have to tell you, it won't.

Get on board, or get out of the way.

Thanks Nannymm,

I wasn't aware it was taken that way. Julie 73 and I have had words before and I guess I did get a little testy from prior arguments. So i do appologise,

However, I consider julie 73's post slamming and dividing. I took umbridge. I'm only human.

jeejee:

"And, finally, Warren, I know it's wrong, but it would feel so good!"

Are you coming on to me?

(j/k - but I am still unsure what your post meant. Hope you cat gets a good report from the vet).

Sheila,

BO now wants Florida which Hillary won fair and square to be split 50-50. Just on Fox news. And the same for Mi. even though no one twisted his arm to make him take his name off.. This is his solution for the two states that the voters are being left out of the primaries. Ha, this is a fair tactic?

Julie

Nick my apologies, I thought you question was rhetorical and directed to the blog at large.

On the lighter side, GREAT Albright interview. Very cool.

What's My Logo: Madeleine Albright Talks Signature Brooches And Barack Obama's Missing Lapel Pin (VIDEO)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/amanda-christine-miller/whats-my-logo-madeleine-a_b_100431.html

Julie, don't embrace the name, look to the well grounded principles of the democratic movement. So, even though you may separate yourself from the party as it's now constituted, they have no right to remove you from the movement.

FWIW, the other week I joined Americans for Democratic Action:
http://www.adaction.org/

Julie:

Independent is the way to be!!

And I am not worried. Once we get you to read The Audacity of Hope and you start listening to Obama make the case for the Democratic agenda against McCain and the Right-Wingers - I don't think you will be sitting this general election out.

Sorry, "umbrage"..... ;00

Julie,

just looked for it and just can't find that. You don't suppose FAUX News is giving "Supposes" as hard news do you?

nick:

John Edwards Vowed to Stay in the Race

Despite huge loss in the Nevada caucus, John Edwards vowed to stay in the race. Campaign manager, former Congressman David Bonior, said in a statement released by the John Edwards Campaign:

“The race to the nomination is a marathon and not a sprint, and we’re committed to making sure the voices of all the voters in the remaining 47 states are heard. The nomination won’t be decided by win-loss records, but by delegates, and we’re ready to fight for every delegate.”

http://polijamblog.polijam.com/?p=40

1. Don't get your hopes up.

2. It's all about the delegates.

You can hardly call them Republicans. Read what Cokie and Steve Roberts are saying about the Obama Knighthood.

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0508/croberts.php3

I agree that she doesn't have to "quit." What she *should* do is stop CAMPAIGNING. Why? Because she's $11 million in debt and is only gonna get deeper.

She's blowing money she could be using to run for governor of NY in 2010, then as insurgent in 2012. Because Obama will obviously screw everything up, according to y'all. Think to the future, Hilldawgs. Think to the future.

You can still vote for her if she's not campaigning, you know. Huckabee took 10% of NC last night and he's been off air-guitaring someplace for the past three months.

FRY!!! LOL Welcome back! here to stir up some blood in our veins?

Almost forgot in all the craziness last night.

Kudos for HRC for mentioning Myanmar in her speech. It is just getting worse and worse over there.

(I for one think these millions going to the campaigns could do a lot more good over there than paying for stupid 30-second TV spots.)

Sheila,

No it was running in the strip at the bottom of the picture..

Julie

I'll keep watching Julie,

But all I've been seeing is Deans command of what is going to happen. not the campaigns.

Yes Warren! I also thought it was good that Hillary mentioned the horrible disaster in Burma in her speech last night. Your mention of this just goes to show that even sharks can be mensch's.

XXOO

BrianLiebermanin NYC wrote: "I take great pride in being a Democrat."

NOT.

THEN added: "Get on board, or get out of the way."

And you wonder why people might jump ship. American -- Love it or leave it.

You sure sound like "W" to me.

Fry:

You can hardly call them Republicans - but you can sure as hell say that Cokie is in the tank for Hillary.

Cokie Roberts is also a great woman. I loved working for her.

Warren,

Thank You. You are one of the more resonable BO supporters. But no thank you. You've told me about the SCOTUS many times. As Brian says, there will be someone to replace me and the other old white ladies and the latino that Judas Richarson will not pull in, and the white blue collar that Donna Brazile says he does not need, and the Mi and Florida people he does not need. the black vote and the young screamers will get him in if they have time by then to vote..and of course the elite white group..
Julie

Patsi if taking shots at me makes you feel better go for, I'm in far too good a mood.

Fry, back from the depths? Good to see you - I used your name in vain (not actually in vain) this morning. As they say, from Roberts' mouth to god's(glue's,in case you haven;t kept up) ear. I couldn't agree more, and have railed about the idiocy of th eprocess in detail and at length here and to my F&F (who just wish I'd shut up about it). Gonna wade back in to the fray, or you gonna just keep lurking?.

Damn Sheila so many new niks, where have all my Liberal buddies gone?

Well BHO's people are trying to spin his win here in NC as a big deal. How do they explain the spread he had a month ago, 25 pts, was shaved down to 14 pts. In, IN what was the funny monkey business going on in Lake County. It took them till 11PM to start releasing their totals. Gary, IN has always been know as a down and dirty when it come to politics, even when dealing within their own party. The reason they waited so long was because they mistakenly thought they would be the king maker for BHO. Sorry Barry just wasn't the case, you couldn't even pull in your own neighboring state. Just pathetic. Blue collar D's are going to stick it to BHO should he mistakenly become the D's nominee.

You are the one taking pot shots at people, Brian....as usual. I'm just returning fire.

I hope you feel this good come November.

I've always liked Cokie Roberts and Steve too.

I met another volunteer at 8 and we did an hour of Hillary sign holding.

I've never seen such a positive response. We decided it made people feel better after the diffricult last night.

I'm heading to the Farmer'smarket to hand out literature. It is cold and cloudy. Perhaps they will have something warm to drink.

Oh Fry,,,,, Its great to see your far right acidy spew here again. ;0) We've missed you.

You liberal buddies will start trickling in again, don't you worry.

Obama's win WAS a big deal and his run against a very powerful woman IS a big deal.

Good thing Gary was minding its Ps and Qs right?

Yes Warren that is why I started out that post with, "You can hardly call them Republicans'.

The Roberts have been big D's forever. Her dad, Hale Boggs, was Dem Majority Leader of the House.

Just thought you would like to know

In 1980, Ted Kennedy came into the Democratic convention at Madison Square Garden in New York City with 1,225 delegates to President Carter's 1,981 and 122 uncommitted.

If Kennedy could take it to the convention when he trailed by 756 delegates, Hillary can go to the convention trailing by her current 150 or so.

But then again, I'm voting a slit ticket

A moderate like McCain is just what we need.

Patsi I have taken pot shots at anyone, but hey if that's the way you want to see it, go for it, no skin off my nose. You won't damper my celebratory mood.

Hmmm....I don't consider McCain a moderate at all and I like him.....

hey Fry,

I just visited my son in Charleston. I was very surprised at how little if looks now that most of the Navy is gone...

Pogo!!!!

Taking my name in vain? Oh be still my heart say it ain't so. LOL

You know I still believe HRC has few cards which haven't been played. Apparently the always unbiased MSM would love for her to bow out because they are so worried about what it might do to the D party, but she ain't going no where. She is going to ride this horse till it keels over dead. I think the MSM has forgotten that her last name is Clinton.

I left the democratic party to become an independent and often wonder how people that are moderates could remain in that churning mass of far left excess. I too will vote McCain and have little fear of divided government which IMO will make it necessary for close cooperation. I'm glad to see that I am in good company.

toast

Sheila,

Yes the Navy left town, and I would had thought their departure would cripple Charleston, but Charleston just keeps on plugging away. I love visiting Charleston, some of the best She Crab soup I ever had was in Charleston. Hope you had a great visit, how is your son doing, is he going to re-up?

Normally, I do not blog, but Brian's arrogance is too much to pass by today.

Brian, you are an IDIOT if you think that a large number of women and working class Americans are not important to Obama in a general election. It may not be a big deal to you if those people do not vote or vote for McCain, but it will matter to Obama's future.

Julie 73,

This is all I can find today. So we have to consider that FAUX News was probably spinning again.

Back To Michigan and FLorida

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/07/back-to-michigan-and-florida/

pug, I hear what you're saying about Kennedy - probably why he's not being vocal about calling for an end tothe process. WADR, from my perspective, McCain is not a moderate on most issues that mean a damn.

The soccer fields call.

Fry, I love Charleston too and My son is a lifer. Did I tell you he made 1st in 6 years? So I don't think he'll be getting out too soon. I would just like him to skip Chief and go Officer, but he insists, he wants Chief. I'm glad he's shore duty right now, but he's bored and wants to go to....you know where again.

Hows yours?

Sheila
I "m not that good with computer, but will watch for it and on CNN also..

Julie

Jan.....where did that come from? I thought Brian was being very civil today....did I miss somthing?

Julie Thanks.

I am interested.

Thanks for the kind word Jan. Sorry but I don't happen to believe a lot of Hillary supporters are going to cross over to McDeath's side. And I think the large numbers of young and new voters will more than compensate for the small amount of Hillary supporters who will end up supporting John. Just one man's opinion.

So THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED....

Tim Russert Screwed it up by naming Obama the Nominee and so the Hill camp reved up and started over....

Russert Gaffe.

Brian, I agree with you.

The next generation is gearing up to take the lead. because they are going to have to correct the problems in the long run,

List of prominent uncomitted super delegates
http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed1/idUSN0728100620080507

Sheila,

WOW 1st Class, an E-6. There is a ton of responsibility that comes with being a E-6, the sooner he makes Chief the better off he'll be. You Chiefs, E-7, E-8, E-9 are treated like gods. That is because they know all the secrets, and they do. ;-) If I was your son, and I had to take shore duty, I try to go to the 6th fleet, the Med, or anywhere in Japan. What a wonderful experience that would be.

Julie:

Read The Audacity of Hope. It is all about politics - NOT Obama.

"This book grows directly out of those conversation on the campaign trail. Not only did my encounters with voters confirm the fundamental decency of the American people, they also reminded me that at the core of the American experience are a set of ideals that continue to stir our collective conscience; a common set of values that bind us together despite our differences; ...."

he's itching for Japan, but so are others and its a small rating. So I'm afraid, unless the middle east gets better soon, he will have to go back. There are now four places he can go in the world....only four unless he goes recruiter someday.

Where is jamie, did you all kill her and hid the body? And Kathryn, where is Kathryn?

Time to eat.

I still think
hillary needs to run under a third party with Chuck Hagel.He was fed up with his party and the two parties have had too long a hold on government .This is a good opportunity for a viable third party.I can hear the talking heads already.This would really upset the applecart.And I don't care how good a democrat you think she is,I think being president would overshadow party loyalty.After all she was a republican before she was a democrat.And she would be a better president if she was not affiliated with either party.
Ruth

I saw Jamie this morning, but it IS a bit of a downer today. I'm sure she''ll say howdy tonight or tomorrow.

Kathrine has left for now. just like I did. I just resurfaced too.

"divided government" means nothing gets done.

That is why every year - candidates "promise" they will fix healthcare, education, the environment, etc.

That is the whole point of Obama's campaign - whereas Hillary thinks she can just bully her way to progress.

Get real - can't you see how "ineffective" bullying is by participating on this blog?

Warren,

Audacity of Hope was the first one I read. Its a solid piece of work and really shows the depth of the man's brain and his abilities of reason.

Shiela, of course you are human! We all are. That's why I think we all need to be a bit more careful about what we say and how we say it. If there is going to be healing within the dem party (and on this blog), the Clinton people will need some time to accept what has happened and get over the hurt we feel. The Obama people can help that by being kind and refraining from some of the snarky comments. Many of us were very emotionally invested in the Clinton campaign. Personally, I feel quite sad that it is comming to an end. Reading some of the nasty and gloating comments from a few of the Obama supporters here and elsewhere does not help. And it doesn't help Obama or the democratic party achieve unity for the general. Likewise, it doesn't help for those on my side to berate and belittle Obama and his supporters. Now is a good time for us ALL to step back and THINK before we speak or post. So, to all you Obama people who have gone out of your way to be gracious and supportive last night and today (and that is nearly all of you) , thank you. To those few who haven't, please remember that you will help your cause far more by being pleasant.
On that note, congrats to the Obama people and condolences to my fellow Clinton fans.

And staying in campaign gives her exposure she would need for an independant run.Being she is only 500,000 votes behind Obama she could make that up easily with Forida and Michigan.The amount of votes she has gotten already are more than McCain got.She can do it.Yes she Can!
Ruth

Agreed Nannymm,

So you and I link arms and that wil be the first link toward unity and success in the November. ;0)

What's so heartbreaking is that the Clintons have worked supporting the minorities over their entire lifetime. That's
a lot of love given and in return they get 6% of the minority
vote. The look on Bill's face last night at Hillary's speech
-well, he looked devastated.

Ruth she's almost a quarter of a million behind, not half a million.

Julie 73,

I just heard from Hardball that the Obama Campaign has said Seat Florida with all of the delegates going to Clinton and Seat Michigan 64/64 split.

I have heard that for months and so I have no readon to think its not right. ;0)

ooops 3/4 of a million.

There are an awful lot of us old women who will never vote for Obama.One big reason besides him not being capable is we can't stand to see the MSM win or those Obama supporters who are so smug.Or Michelle.A lot of us old women are also not as liberal as Obama and his supporters,so would opt for McCain If Hillary does not get nomination or run under IP ticket
Ruth

Ruth we get it, you've made your point repeatedly, you won't be voting for Obama.

Ruth,

Wish we could ease your pain, but its just not possible if you don't want to come half way.

So I wish you well in your vote for McCain.

I am a very committed supporter of Senator Hillary Clinton both monetarily and action wise. I want her to be the next POTUS. She is the most qualified and certainly has the most comprehensive solutions to many of the horrendous problems that the Bush administration is going to leave us. It seems to me that the Obama bloggers make a grave mistake in thinking that only their supporters are rabidly committed to their candidate. They also think that only racists are for Clinton and somehow the Obama supporters are the only enlightened voters.

Most Clinton supporters are loyal democrats who are fiercely loyal to Senator Clinton but that does not make them racists or stupid or bitter. Most of us are not against Obama but rather vehemently for Clinton. If Obama is the nominee then I will vote for him because the issues of the democratic party espouses are important to me. It is vitally important that the next President is a democrat who will appoint Judges, and US Attorneys and Cabinet officials who will support a woman's right to choose and defend the Constitution from those who would sacrifice liberty in the name of security, or those who have implemented financial policies which have almost destroyed the middle class. We want to support labor's right to organize and obtain fair wages for its members. We know that we need to curtail our dependence on foreign oil and implement policies and programs to combat the destruction of our environment.

We knew that Senator Clinton could implement these programs because she has the tenacity, grit and know how. We hope that Senator Obama will be able to do these things and are willing to support him if he is the nominee.

I would caution Senator Obama's supporters that we will not endure your continued insults directed at us or our candidate. The support of Obama in the general election from Clinton supporters will evaporate if we are not treated with respect. If you do not want 50% of the democratic party to vote for your candidate in November then just keep it up.

I am a very committed supporter of Senator Hillary Clinton both monetarily and action wise. I want her to be the next POTUS. She is the most qualified and certainly has the most comprehensive solutions to many of the horrendous problems that the Bush administration is going to leave us. It seems to me that the Obama bloggers make a grave mistake in thinking that only their supporters are rabidly committed to their candidate. They also think that only racists are for Clinton and somehow the Obama supporters are the only enlightened voters.

Most Clinton supporters are loyal democrats who are fiercely loyal to Senator Clinton but that does not make them racists or stupid or bitter. Most of us are not against Obama but rather vehemently for Clinton. If Obama is the nominee then I will vote for him because the issues of the democratic party espouses are important to me. It is vitally important that the next President is a democrat who will appoint Judges, and US Attorneys and Cabinet officials who will support a woman's right to choose and defend the Constitution from those who would sacrifice liberty in the name of security, or those who have implemented financial policies which have almost destroyed the middle class. We want to support labor's right to organize and obtain fair wages for its members. We know that we need to curtail our dependence on foreign oil and implement policies and programs to combat the destruction of our environment.

We knew that Senator Clinton could implement these programs because she has the tenacity, grit and know how. We hope that Senator Obama will be able to do these things and are willing to support him if he is the nominee.

I would caution Senator Obama's supporters that we will not endure your continued insults directed at us or our candidate. The support of Obama in the general election from Clinton supporters will evaporate if we are not treated with respect. If you do not want 50% of the democratic party to vote for your candidate in November then just keep it up.

I just heard Armstrong Williams spouting off on Fox. Saying that AA voters finally figured out how evil the Clintons' are and have been ever since they entered politics. They are getting their just desserts and she can forget about ever running again.

Gives me even more reason to leave without turning back.

Conversation with my 83 year mother today:

Mom: "Yay! Hillary won Indiana last night! "

Me. " Yeah, but Mom, it was only 2 percent and a lot of the people are now saying it was not enough to make up for the loss in North Carolina. So we're kind of sad today."

Mom: "Well can you imagine how hard we'd be cryin' now if Obama won Indiana?"

Me: "That's true. Thanks for reminding me of he bright side."

Gotta love Mom.

Jo,

I don't think your goig to get an argument here. Thanks for the warning, but I think we, the Obama Supporters here on the Trail Mix just want our friends back and want peace and unity again.

So, come on down and join the party when you feel capable!

Flatus --
Armstrong is a GOP - he's whack. Don't pay attention to him.

Hey
Ruth come on down

You too can be a ticket splitter.
It truly is the best way.

Look at how much trouble we have when we give it all to one party.

Vote McCain for president, then you can divide the rest up as you wish, remembering to give the Democrats a generous share.

hey, i like the idea of an independant run for HRC.
gee, with all us peri/pre/post menepausal's so P.O.ed, I think BHO should just conceede.
hell hath no fury.......

Come on FLATUS.....Williams is right wing media host. Have you ever heard his Show? My goodness. Take him with a grain of salt......

jo I haven't seen a lot Clinton bashing going on around here today, quite the opposite.

Union members urge Democrats to seat Michigan, Florida delegates
by Ken Thomas | The Associated Press
Monday April 14, 2008, 5:48 PM
National party Chairman Howard Dean, who was traveling Monday, has said he expects an agreement to be reached to seat delegates from both states at the Denver convention. He has said any deal will need the support of presidential candidates Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama, who have been campaigning in advance of primaries in Pennsylvania, Indiana and North Carolina. But there is no deal yet.

There is no deal on Florida and Michigan.

Activist revives lawsuit over Florida delegate mess
The Associated Press
Thursday April 10th, 2008
Comment on this Story | Read Comments

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) — A Democratic activist has revived a federal lawsuit against the Democratic National Committee challenging the party's decision to strip Florida of its delegates to the national convention.

A previous lawsuit filed last year by Victor DiMaio of Tampa was thrown out of the U.S. District Court in Tampa. But the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, in a ruling last month, gave DiMaio an opening to amend and refile it, which he did Wednesday.

Ruth, I agree with you. On all of it. The slanted media. A candidate we know nothing about and what we do know
isn't good. I think we all want a president that is MORE
patriotic than us. And someone doesn't sit in a America
bashing church for 20yrs. if they're patriotic. So keep telling
them you're not voting for Obama no matter what. I
agree with you. I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA. That
50% of people on the exit polls said the same thing as
us. That they'd stay home or vote for McCain.

h

"divided government" means nothing gets done.

Posted by: warren

Most experts believe there will be substantial gains in the senate and house by the democrats that would facilitate Obama's ability to bring CHANGE in domestic and foreign policy. Obama's inexperience makes this an unacceptable risk IMO especially as regards the middle east and security. The only way I could ever vote for Obama is with the restrictions of divided government an being the sad victim of botched brain surgery. Hello McCain.

toast

Hey

that's 1,2,3 come on Julie join us
and we would have 5 trail mixers for McCain.

a nice little club

Friends don't let friends vote the straight ticket
Vote divided government.
Vote McCain

So Please, by all means. You ALL have free will and you ALL should vote for McCain. ;0)

As Craig would have said, having you hear makes for a better discussion ;0)

Cokie and Steve are GOP? No Way! Her mother Lindy and I spent many afternoons sitting side by side in the manicure room of the House Beauty Shop as Miss Rita worked her magic on our nails. Congresswoman Boggs told me how to get ready for hurricanes, we also talked of roses and women's issues. I loved her -- she's a great lady.

I also had some interesting dealings with Cokie's brother -- the legendary Tommy Boggs. He is quite something . Big burly cigar chomping, bourbon drinking, boots wearing master lobbyist. He came to me as the rep for the trial lawyers opposing product liability tort reform. My boss was trying to strike a compromise with the manufacturers and ATLA. So I asked Tommy if he could help me negotiate and amendment. He said, "Alicia, I can wrote you the most wonderful, right-down- the- middle- bill with something for everyone -- give a break to the manufacturers, protect the victims -- make everyone happy." I was getting hopeful and about to say, "Well great! Then let's do that" But the great Tommy Boggs continued, "It would be a beautiful bill -- but we'd still oppose it because we don't want any goddamned product liability bill to pass, understand?"

Aahh. Who was I to think that I could play let's make a deal with the great Tommy Boggs? At the end of it, we were able to get a compromise bill through the Energy and Commerce committee, but Tommy ultimately won the day when he created an unholy alliance with the Trial Lawyers and the Right to Lifers who became convinced that a tort reform bill would allow new forms of birth control to be developed and tested in the US. That ultimately killed the bill for federal tort reform.

Never voted for a Republican in my life. And I certainly
would never support McCain. Nor would I support
someone who gives speeches with such lines as
"We are what we've been waiting for". Please!

Hillary hasnt quit yet.
(None of your hollow predictions, please......)
She hasnt quit yet
And obama hasnt won.
It's not over. not as good as over. not might as well be over.........

Good Story Alicia!

Yes she can!

Nogrudge,

Well maybe you would consider voting for Gravel? Ron Paul? Better to vote then to not vote at all.

nogrudge,
I am so tired of hearing that the Clinton's are playing dirty or are using the race card.It was Obama using race in S.C. because he new he couldn't win without the black vote so he had to make them hate the Clinton's to get it done and The press was more than willing to help.And it was Obama always bad mouthing the Clinton's at his rallies again with the help of the press.And there is nothing more racist than having 91% of black voters voting for Obama.You can't tell me it is because he is the better candidate.It is because he is black.Any other candidate with the negatives he has would have been gone long ago but the AA's don't care what he's done they will vote for him even if he is found guilty of murder.
Ruth

Does anyone remember the financial scandal involving Armstrong Williams? details escape me

Chef Sheila Hussein
Never said I wasn't going to vote
I'm going to vote for Hillary.

Well there you go, at least you will be voting. I threw one away once with a write in.

So Please, by all means. You ALL have free will and you ALL should vote for McCain.
As Craig would have said, having you hear makes for a better discussion
Posted by: Chef Sheila Hussein The Nun

It is refreshing to have such a temperate tone light up this blog...

toast

Hillary hasnt quit yet.

Posted by: sturgeone

I support Hillary and will till the end.

toast

TY Sistah Sheila. How did you work for Cokie? On NPR?

My niece went to Stone Ridge and Cokie was a regular at all the alumni events. She seems to be as lovely as her mother.

Come on sturg, you know better.

Alica,

I was a camera/sound/field producer for ABC News in the 90's. I was with Brinkley and Sunday Morning, of which she has been a faithfull pundit. She is just as beautiful inside as the camera doesn't do her outside..,,,that and a really smart and touch, but southern bellish cookie.

I had planned to not vote at all if hillary is not the nominee,but maybe I will vote for McCain.he is more moderate than Obama.But I will not vote for Durbin either because he was one of those who is behind Obama.
And Claire McKaskell is not a good dem either.One day a few months ago I was watching c-span and they were having votes on social security.All the dems voted aye and she voted nay.Wasn't able to figure that one out at all.
Ruth

There's always Libertarian, Green, and write In.

Obama is very moderate....just chocolate, I like Chocolate ;0)

Hey Oregon -- Armstrong Williams was paid by the Dept. of Education to shill NCLB. Here is the WaPO story:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56330-2005Jan7.html

Come on sturg, you know better.

And Hillary is in for the whole game .Got a letter today saying she will fight to the finish.Good for her.the last week Obama looked like he had been wrung out and hung out to dry.You can see he is plain tired of the fight and wants it over now.Helooks like he hates getting down with the masses.Looked happier when he was just giving speeches.
Ruth

I cant threaten anything......my state (sc. one of obama's big wins) will go republican, as always.........my vote is worthless in a state like this.....so all I can do is bark at the moon for hillary until such time as obama wins it. which he hasnt done yet.

woof.

Toast that light refreshing person is the real me. Kind of lost in the midst of all this painful passion. I even left for a bit because of all the meaness.

But because of Nannymm just reminding me, the real me is now back.

So welcome and lets join forces and have a great Trail Mix. Lets discuss our differances and maybe we will find more in common. ;0)

Ruth, ditto.
Racism goes 2 ways.
I would love to have a black president.
Just not this one.
We don't vote for someone BECAUSE of race or gender.
We hire who we think will be the best president.
It's hard to remember the 90's and not want them back.
And she may be our chance.

Jack Caff. is pretty sharp over on CNN.

(He is like Pat B.'s doppleganger ; )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppleganger

(I am sure there is genuine disagreement about which one is the "evil twin" ; )

We were talking about Obama/Rendell 08 last night . . .

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/072cgxqb.asp

"they" must be watching. . .

(uh-oh - I am starting to sound like Max!)

Oh Warren.....gag me.....Fred Barnes? YUK....OK, I'll hold my nose as I read.

woof. Bark at the moon.
Love it!

Warren, My take on Rendell is that he is too conservative for General Election, he is a major Clinton supporter and that wouldn't gel well either. He doesn't have a military background to give the populous a comfort zone.

Fred Barnes knows this too. ;0)

I just got an e-mail saying if each and every American stops buying anything made in China only $20 worth for a month it would put a serious dent in the trade deficit and also make a statement to American companies doing business in China.And we could take it further and increase it each month.I know there are a lot of things we would not be able to buy,but do we really need all the junk they sell us.

I remember the government trying to stop American's from buying cheaper drugs from Canada and other countries because they couldn't gaurantee their safety but the pharmacutical companies are having drugs made in China and look at what that brought us--deaths from
contaminated Heparin.

Ruth

Are any of you other Clinton people having a hard time watching TV news/opinion shows today? Every channel I turn to seems to be holding a death watch. It wouldn't be so bad if it was respectful. But it's not. It reminds me of my early days as a nurse. As an elderly patient lingered for days on her death bed , her not so loving family gathered around the bed fighting over her belongings, even going so far as to remove her stud earrings and desperately trying to pull her wedding rings off her swollen fingers. We had to threathen to ban them from the room because they were physically hurting her.

j

I just turned on my pc and tried to see Hillary speak in DC but it just ended. Did anybody see it and if so what did she say. Is there a link to replay it.

Thank you Alicia

Sturg, let's go out and get drunk. (Haven't done that in _many_ years, but...)

As a matter of fact Nannymm,

I'm not even watching. Avoid it because it is just not realistic for either of the campaigns.

The feeding frenzy has moved from outside the house to the cable news shows.....dispicable.

Sheila:

I think Biden would be a good choice. (As long as he doesn't really start shooting off his mouth until after the election ; )

I am also a big fan of Obama/Webb '08. Especially after I saw Webb on TV after the recent hearings on Iraq. There were a lot of senators on TV over the course of those hearings - and Webb stood out.

He would put VA in play as well as some other Southern states.

(He does not have much "political" experience - but he has more than solid credentials on National Security.)

I think he has some controversial statements in his past - but who doesn't.

And just wait till the media really gets a hold of McCain's statement about getting off foreign oil in order to prevent more wars in the Middle East. (McCain is going to have a tough time since you're not allowed to tell the truth in the GOP ; )

I heard the washington post had some story about a possible problem for Obama in October and Hillay was trying to push the story but I could not find it. Did anybody else see that story.

nannymm
Didn't watch tv today because I knew what to expect.
Can tell you what they will say even before they say it,
especially at MSNBC. Not that CNN is much better.
Finally had to resort to Fox since they normally are
not Hillary bashers. I won't be able to watch fox after
the General starts probably.

nannymm
I haven't watched tv today because I knew the press would be gloating instead of reporting.That is another reason I will never vote for the candidate of the media's choice.They have given their man an unfair advantage.
Ruth

I've been busy working on the campaign today but saw a few minutes of Chris Matthews..very interesting..

They talked about when Russert declared the race over last night, Hillary made the quicki decision.
Instead of resting for a day, she said..we are going to West Virginia.

If she fights on, we'll fight on..I'm so worried that if Obamaisnominated, the GOP will win again..unacceptable

Good advice, Sheila. I think alot of the animosity on both sides has been fueled by the talking heads. I've turned the tv off and I feel calmer already.

Nanny -- Yes...it's painful. Especially because I so remember that the same MSM that steamrolled George Bush into office and cheerleaded Iraq has now handed us Barack Obama. And I believe he is a phony. If by some sleight of hand he does win the general, I won't be able to watch any presidential speeches for the next four years. Listening him reminds me of listening to "W"....

I may have to subscribe to Netflix.

Warren,

I think we all think Webb would be great and Alicia, I keep thinking of your plea, because he is a great senator.

But that is exactly why he would be a great VEEP. He was my SECNAV and was excellent. He is a no nonesence guy and he has strengths that is needed whether Obama or Clinton.

Ruth, our government needs to take responsiblity for importing
tainted products. We expect it of China. It would just be nice
to have a little quality control on this end-or don't bring it here
if you can't guarantee it.

Nannymm
I turned off he TV afer 30 minutes of Morning Joe...tried again around noon ...couldn't take it..I'll try again only so I can see Craig on Abrams.

On the other hand...my husband got a Wii for his birthday yesterday and while he's at work, I have it all to myself! It's been very theraputic. : )
~Gidget