Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Father Pfleger & Rev. James Meeks: Who They Really Are

"Why does Barack align himself with so many radical religious leaders? Besides Rev. Wright, there are Father Michael Pfleger, closely associated with Wright and Farrakhan, and Rev. James Meeks, also close to Obama’s spiritual advisers.

Each of these men have been listed by Barack’s campaign as religious advisers. So we are not talking about merely constituents who support Barack. We are talking about people that Barack has invited to be a part of his campaign.

To date, the only reason that Barack Obama hasn’t had to hold press conferences about his longtime relationships with these extremists is that the MSM hasn’t latched on to his associations.

Most Democrats who see these videos and hear about these extremists’ beliefs are aghast, and a sufficient minority of Democrats are so shocked that they realize that they cannot vote for Barack Obama in a general election, given these relationships.

All Republicans who see these videos realize one thing: That Barack Obama cannot, and will not, win the presidency, and that John McCain will be POTUS 44.

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/30/father-pfleger-rev-james-meeks-who-they-really-are/

G-man,

Despite you and Craig's anti-obama rails and link postings, here are some simply factsa bout his electability;

Obama leads with the most pledged delegates;

Obama leads in the popular vote count;

Obama has won the most states;and

Obama has raised the most money of all candidates.

God damn Craig I hope by now you're on the Clinton payroll. And the "typical white woman" remark way over the top. You're about as unbiased as Faux is "fair and balanced". It's a given that all politicians have baggage, but if one went by your accounting one could be led to believe that Hillary sprung fourth pristine and almost virginal ready to assume the mantle of power.

"under the bus:" OR I thought this was cute!

http://blacksnob.blogspot.com/2008/05/im-throwing-under-bus-under-bus.html

While watching "Hardball" last night the cliche speedometer on the idiomatic phrase "Under the Bus" officially hit 5 million so I feel I can no longer use the phrase in good conscious due to the sheer laziness surrounding its overuse.

But I need something to describe that "throw ___ under the bus" feeling so, what euphemism can I start using in it's place?

Any ideas? I'm going to toss out a few at random.

Replacements for "Under the Bus," por ejemplo:

A) Into the wood chipper (a nod to "Fargo")

B) Off the monorail (a nod to an episode of "The Simpsons")

C) Into the meat-grinder

D) Shot in the face

E) Throat-throttled

F) Put the mace to the face

G) Belichicked (I was trying to think of sports analogies, this doesn't work but maybe someone thinks differently)

H) Into the rudder

I) Into the turbine

J) Pulled a Drive-by

K) Shoved into the Subway

L) Pushed onto the tracks

M) Bum-rolled

N) "went all Steve Seagal"

Barack Obama's NEW Preacher of Hate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XupKU36iM0&eurl=http://noquarterusa.net/blog/

I think Obama sees most of us as 'typical' something. I wonder what Michelle is typical of? Rev Wright is probably typical of someone who has been dumped by a beloved follower who no longer needs him -
Wright is challenging him to show he hasn 't been using him and his church all these years. Craig Crawford is typical of a journalist who isn't enamored of a seemingly innocent young man who spouts the same old rhetoric he says he is against. Craig Crawford is typical of what most of us have always thought journalists wanted to be. MSNBC is typical of
the hyperbole we have come to recognize as Hollywood's version of low-level rabble-rousers.
What kind of REAL evidence does anyone have that Obama can and will do as he promises? Nothing but "hope", and that can not be deposited into your bank account. Craig hit the nail on the head.

Obama is crashing in North Carolina.

Hillary's baggage and lies ( short list, I would have gone on but I was starting to get queasy.

Vote for Iraq War

Co-sponsored a bill to make flag burning illegal.

Ducking sniper fire in Bosnia

Mark Penn

Bill Clinton paid 800 grand to loby on behalf on trade deals

She didn't know about the FALN pardons

She didn't know that her brothers were being paid to get pardons that Clinton granted.

She didn't know that the Peter Paul fundraiser in Hollywood in 2000 cost $700,000 more than she reported it had.

She opposed NAFTA at the time.

She was instrumental in the Irish peace process.

She had nothing to do with the New Square Hasidic pardons (after they voted for her 1,400-12 and she attended a meeting at the White House about the pardons).

She negotiated for the release of refugees in Macedonia (who were released the day before she got there).

She said that Chelsea, her daughter, was jogging around the towers of the World Trade Center on 9/11 and [Hillary] went on the "Today" show ... and she said [Chelsea] was only saved because she ducked into a coffee shop at the last minute and she actually heard the airplane hit the building. Chelsea wrote 4 months later she was home in bed sleeping on 9/11 when the first plane hit the WTC

Stop telling lies OD.

Pollster.com NC poll averages

Clinton 37.5
Obama 54.1

http://www.pollster.com/08NCPresDemsZOOMr.png

Insider Advantage..Hillary Leads
Rasmussen: Lead cut by 1/3

Yeh.....

The latest poll in the Pollster.com is April tenth..

Obama is crashing in North Carolina..My sympathies..

Who's next? Wife Michelle, for saying she has never been proud to be an American until recently?
Wright is Wright, not Obama.
What Wright says is meaningless regarding a possible Obama presidency.
Hillary recently said she would "obliterate" Iran if Iran attacked Israel. That has me way more upset than a South Side preacher who has earned the right to say whatever he feels he wants to say.
Reality and talent shows on TV command a thousand times more attention than a candidate who is already threatening to nuke Iran.
I am a TV sports-nut but I keep it in its place---it means NOTHING compared to crazy people running for President of the United States.
McCain thinks we Americans are OK with US troops in peace-keeping and occupation roles all over the world...he says it all the time, and yes, that is indeed what his "hundred year" answer was all about. Well, we ARE NOT OK with it! We are sick of what a great speaker once called " the US being the goddam policeman of the world!". To hell with McCain and unless Hillary backs off her threat/pledge to obliterate Iran, she will lose my vote if she is nominated.
Obama would keep strike forces near Iraq, too, just as Edwards would have. War, war, war !!

Are you sniffing glue OD?

Pollster Dates N/Pop Clinton Obama Undecided
Rasmussen 4/28/08 774 LV 37 51 12
SurveyUSA 4/26-28/08 727 LV 44 49 3
ARG 4/26-27/08 600 LV 42 52 4
PPP (D) 4/26-27/08 1121 LV 39 51 10
SurveyUSA 4/19-21/08 734 LV 41 50 5

http://www.pollster.com/08-NC-Dem-Pres-Primary.php

Notice the dates on dumbo's posting..What a sad little person..

Brian, maybe tomorrow Craig will have a similar post about Hillary?

Also, if you want to hear pro-Obama and not so pro-Clinton, listen to KO.

Hey, Dex, how's it going?

tt

Don't hold your breath for that tt, and tt are you saying that Obama supporters are not welcome here? Has this officially become a pro Clinton blog?

Yes OD, stop being such an asshole and read the dates, 4/28, 4/26, 4/26, 4/26, 4/19. You clearly stated in your post that the latest pollster.com poll was 4/10. I always thought you're pretty stupid, never realized till now just how stupid you are.

"The latest poll in the Pollster.com is April tenth..

Obama is crashing in North Carolina..My sympathies.."

Like Bill you think because you say something it must be true.

Profanity is the refuge of the threatened, desperate moron,,

Brian, just giving more Obama info.

tt

You're still an idiot OD who obviously can't tell the difference between april 10th and april 28th when it's black and white in front of your face. Do you have to take off your shoes to count to 20?

Good night everyone..Pray for unfullfilled you know who..

Obama leads with the most pledged delegates;

Obama leads in the popular vote count;

Obama has won the most states;and

Obama has raised the most money of all candidates.

bye bye .. the Super Delegates have said repeatedly that THE factor that will decide whom they support will be "electability". I'm not saying he isn't going to carry the nomination, but I do believe Hillary has a stronger chance now than before. Winning most of the RED states is not going to impress the Super Delegates, and when you factor in Florida and Michigan the popular vote count is pretty close. Money alone does not a successful candidate make.

And would you all stop railing on Craig? I don't think he's "in the tank" for any candidate.

Craig,

The most striking realization about Obama, now exposed to Americans,
is clear in your first sentence. "Barack Obama is a politician after all."

Since his entire rise to fame has been based on the fact that Obama was,
supposedly, a whole new creature--the UN-POLITICIAN-POLITICIAN, uncovering Obama's true character is nothing less than catastrophic to the Obama campaign. How many more mentors, relatives and acquaintances
will Obama toss "under the bus" before he's finished? The body count is
rising.

Craig, just a note--Hillary was interviewed on O'Rielly today and I thought she managed to charm him!
What did you think?

I watched in gleeful disbelief as Mrs. Clinton navigated O'Rielly's land mines.
Not only did she look presidential, she looked girly in pink. She appeared
relaxed and playful. Did you watch the show?

I think it was a masterful decision by the Clinton campaign to organize an interview on Bill O'Rielly. On shows like this, Hillary can reach many Reagan democrats and independents.

If anyone missed Hillary on O'Rielly, the interview will continue Thursday..

I'm hearing from Hill-rat friends that Obama's superdelegates who have competitive districts are having some nervous days. The NRCCC is running negative ads in special elections in MS tying the DEM candidate to Obama. MS 01 which some had thought to be a possible DEM pick-up since it one was a DEM seat (Whitten) is now likely GOP because of the Obama+Childer ads.

Craig -- What do you think? Are the people with close races getting a little nervous about Obama's effect on downticket races in red states?

on the other hand Divalicias, according to Washington Post, Hillary and Barack are now tied with Superdelegates... Let' s see if it stays that way.

Speaking of getting thrown under buses -- I think it was Obama's turn yesterday. Rev. DeForest Soaries on MSNBC with Mika commenting on Obama's belated and ballyhooed "divorce" from his personal spiritual leader and pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright, "Barack Obama likes to present himself like he's some superhero, but he's still stuck in the phone booth. If he can't deal with the rantings of Rev. Wright, then how can he stand up to Al Queda?"

Hillary's response about "obliterating" Iran was in answer to "What if Iran attacked Israel with a nuclear device?" Does anyone believe that Iran's setting off a nuclear device in Israel would be met with anything other than obliteration by either Bush2, Hillary, McCain, or even Obama?
not advocating, just pointing out a reality of life.
and you wouldnt actually have to nuke Iran to obliterate it, far as that goes.

One Fox poll today actually showed Hillary beating Obama in
North Carolina. I'd be happy if she simply narrowed his lead to
single digits, since the AA vote will go completely to Obama.

Two other polls show her ahead in Indiana.

Brian is a liar
Brian is a liar and is quoting Dick Morris

Media Matters - Dick Morris again falsely claimed Clinton said ...Mar 27, 2008 ... Morris and McGann then falsely asserted that Hillary Clinton "said that Chelsea [Clinton] was jogging around the World Trade Center on 9/11 ...
mediamatters.org/items/200803270008 -

Brian is a megaphone for rightwing lies
Brian has no credibility at all
He should have to post a warning on each comment
that all of it comes out of Dick Morris's ass

Im not sure that all African Americans agree with Obama's repudiation of Wright...........Obama may have splintered his AA support by kicking Wright to the curb. I guess we can see the effect of that in the NC votes.

Rez re your:
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/05/obamas-crowded-bus.html#comment-75231

I like the 'chipper' metaphor. It can work a couple of ways with your original meaning of tossing someone into the wood chipper. But there's an alternative, as well. Like, Mr Obama looked chipper this morning as he spoke about Rev Wright.

Obama is just too gosh darn nice to throw anybody under any bus.

Rez...loved your hilarious post early this a.m. about getting rid of the "thrown under the bus" cliche and replacing it with someone else. I actually like "threw into the woodchipper" best.

I'm sick of people getting thrown under buses as well. The other day, I looked up its origins and found out that part of the phrase's meaning comes from the idea of the bus representing "mass society" or "public opinion." In that sense, it's like throwing someone "to the wolves," according to one site I was reading. So whatever replacement phrase we come up with might need to replicate that aspect as well. Not sure a wood-chipper does the trick, as vivid as it is and as much as I love it.

For now, I'll revert to another cliche as a stopgap: "He kicked him to the curb." I kind of like that one. It's a cliche, no doubt...but not as worn out as "thrown under the bus."

Re: What Obama has done in the primary. This stand-alone list is not that impressive without details (something of which Obama seems to have few) comparing him to HRC.

It is even less impressive when considering how poorly he will do in the general when the GOP goes after him. Even KO won't be able to deflect them. Eventually, they may be the ones who throw Obama under the bus, as they do like to build people up & tear 'em down, again. Then the Obama-ites will be paraphrasing Eddy G: Where's your precious media now?

Rezdog - How's about adding "Bobby Knighted" to your list?

Amen , Blue!

Actually, that would be everyone paraphrasing Edward G. Robinson to the Obama-ites.

Rez - Clotheslined, if you are looking for something more generic than Coach Knight
-- Put sugar in his gas tank
-- Or, fill in the blanks to a game of Clue: The______ in the ________ with a ________. E.g., What will be the Dems demise this time? The GOP in the general with Obama as the candidate.

good morning gang....

Rez..... I really like "put the mace to the face"....
I'm a sucker for rhymes....

Jamie..... wow..... Anak Nakal is in post #3 and is a 30/1 shot..... I have always loved the number 3..... about 10 yrs ago, a friend started to dabble in numerology and gave me my numbers..... you get 2 numbers.... one based on your given name at birth and one based on your date of birth..... for most people those 2 numbers will be different....... but for a small percentage they are the same and it is said then that one is a pure number.....
my numbers are 3/3..... I'm a pure 3.... (3 stands for self-expression)...

9/11..... thanks for sharing that story about Yoko Ono....

corey - Was that "Amen" for Coach Knight? :)

Lard'L - Here's to Denis of Cork!

Let's see Rez....

Into the thresher...

Get midevil on...

Drop like a bad habit....

Put the smack down...

Open up a can of whoop-ass...

Go Jackie Chan on...

Serve their ass like John McEnroe...

I just don't get the anger people sometimes have here. I can only offer sarcasm. The amen was for your Obama comments , Blue.

whacked
sanctioned (the eiger sanction)
stabbed in the back (oldie but goody)
drop kicked
thrown into the volcano
knocked off his roller skates

Obama supporters - wake up - this will NOT go away!

The Game of Expedience

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLdba0KHhHc

Euro -- I read the same article in WaPo today -- but look at the graph discussing Travis Childers in MS01 -- his response is that he's never met Obama -- running from Obama as fast as he can.

By the way , the annual Tulip Time festival begins here tomorrow. I drove through downtown this morning and there are a lot of tulips in bloom. Not all of them , but a lot. I'll try to post some pictures this weekend.

Blue...thanks for sharing some space in Denis of Cork's saddle. I know you were there first!

mornin' all.

OD, welcome to the club. It's actually pretty nice. Admission is by invitation - in the form of an unfounded personal attack from a nasty, mean spiritied prick wholly incapable of political discussion without resorting to such stupid personal attacks on his candidate's opponent's supporters. You need do nothing else to join, and there are no dues, meetings or any other of the annoying things clubs normally require. Nice to have you.

Rez, I have always been fond of "thrown to the wolves."

Brian: Craig is not pro-Hillary, he's anti-Democrat.

Looking over the comments re: SDs, CNN puts the superdelegate count at 261 Cinton, 239 Obama. The WaPo article was talking about congressional support only.

Today is the fifth anniversary of "Mission Accomplished." Why aren't we talking about that? This has political ramifications, especially for war cheerleaders Hillary & McCain.

Instead, Craig wants to get one more day's mileage out of the Rev. Wright story.

Today is the fifth anniversary of "Mission Accomplished." Why aren't we talking about that? This has political ramifications, especially for war cheerleaders Hillary & McCain.

Instead, Craig wants to get one more day's mileage out of the Rev. Wright story.

Good morning pogo.

I think most of the super-Ds are waiting until after all the primaries are done (6/3) before announcing who they support.

Even so, a few keep announcing every day, and for every one Clinton gets, Obama gets 2 or 3.

Within a couple of weeks he'll probably have more than H.

I can no more disown him than i can my white grandmother..quote Barack Obama......for a another lively discussion Craig go to MSNBC political message board..read What a Joke...Obama

pogo: MSNBC has different numbers than CNN.

Obama: Pledge 1490, super-D 244, total = 1734
Clinton: Pledge 1334, super-D 266, total = 1600

Obama has been picking 2-3 super-Ds for every one Hillary gets.

Hillary would need to win 70% of the pledge delegates from the remaining primaries to catch up with Obama. Most experts say this is highly unlikely.

Hillary's only chance now is to orchestrate some kind of DNC deal where MI and FL pledge delegates would be added in a way that she ends up with more than Obama. We'll see if Harold Ickes can pull that rabbit out of his hat.

But then she'd still have to convince the remaining super-Ds that she is the best candidate. Not an easy thing to do, given her disorganized and dirty campaign. If they give her the nomination they can forget about the black vote which is always key to Dem victories.

And Nash the woman vote is also always key to Dem victories. I am tired of you only telling 1/2 of the story.

nash - I agree, I think most of the SDs are going to wait to declare their votes. And to complete your prediction - "Within a couple of weeks [at his current rate of SD pickup relative to Clinton's] he'll probably have more than H."

All that said, SD counts at this point are nothing but estimates - I was just trying to clarify what WaPo was talking about. The discussion made it clear that there was confusion about that. The total difference in SDs between the candidates from the 2 sources (which are close at any rate) is 1, and the difference in pledged and total delegates between the 2 sources is 3.

nash......the jury is still out on that black vote thing.....they have enough roll models on Hillary's side to splinter their support........that fully remains to be seen.........
the ramifications, effects, of Obama's repudiation of Wright has yet to be guaged.

role and have.......lol

I'll direct this remark to Clintonistas: What is up with that Claire McCaskill? Could she and Nancy Pelosi TRY any harder to alienate the Clinton supporters that they will need in the fall if Obama is the nominee? In the WSJ yesterday McCaskill inferred that the Superdelegates have made their decisions (for Obama)—they are just waiting to announce. Why even have the votes in North Carolina, Indiana, Oregon, Kentucky, West Virginia etc.? Claire really thinks she is something else...a real power player. She is going to tell the voters that its all over whether they like it or not.

And, it very well may be. My point: How is this helping getting the blocs Obama doesn't yet have? When is he going to TRY and reach out to those blocs? And why not let the voters in these remaining states have their say? It's just kooky to me.

sturg, nice catch.

Personally it seems to me that Barack Obama is indeed the quintessential politician like any other candidate, and that he is current on "self-destruct" mode, with a nod toward "Mission Impossible"...

Not many people mention the "dream team" ticket anymore, but I still think it would be a good thing. Of course Patsi was in favor of Harold Ford, Jr, and I think he'd be a refreshing face on the national scene.

The latest info I have read is that Obama supporters are more likely to support Hillary if she is the nominee than Hillary supporters are to support Obama if HE is the nominee. I will support the Democrat.

Oh and Happy May Day !! It's national holiday here in Belgium. Tomorrow is also national holiday, I think it's ascension or something. I am opening my station from 7 - 11 am so people can buy their newspapers. Normally I'd be closed.

A while back an unnamed person insulted me for running a gas station. I didn't respond well then, and it's after the fact, but I want to say.. I am a business owner, I employ people, I pay salaries, taxes, handle merchandising, buying, advertising, support community events, and provide a service. If anyone wants to challenge my worthiness doing such things, go ahead. I think I am doing fine.

Oh yeah, there is an anti-American bias via USA education so even with a Master's Degree in Public Administration, the doors to the EU or other institutions were pretty much closed. I have done what is necessary to legally live in Europe and make a living for myself and for my retirement. I dare anyone who wants to criticize to try moving to Europe and set themselves up and see how it goes. :-) Oh yeah and I graduated from one of the highest regarded regional public liberal arts colleges in the country... The Evergreen State College. I was never going to mention this again, but that attack was below the belt... I could go on attack against that person's profession too, but what would be the point?

Sorry for the rant, back to our regularly scheduled fighting :)

catches ... lol

sturgeone: Yes, Hillary does have an impressive collection of black supporters, most of whom probably wish they could lose that connection.

Thx all for the input on the "under the bus" cliche thread. Actually i lifted and linked the story line . It's from a blogger 'Black Snob"who I ran across one day while digging for some info to throw at Patsi:) I continue following her to this day. She's pretty hip and funny, but probably tough on some social-con's ears.

http://blacksnob.blogspot.com/2008/05/im-throwing-under-bus-under-bus.html

BTW, Just hearing on CNN that another SD, this one from IN, is doing the old switcheroo from HER to Obama.

Go O man!

There's simply no pleasing everyone...

Clinton is too tough, so she tears-up. Some like it, some do not.

Obama needs to show toughness yet not betray his hopeful campaign message.

McCain must not look too old or out of touch. Oh, and not be too angry!

The public has the attention span of a ... oh look... bunnies!

Eurotom,

1) My first college roommate remains in my memory one of the finest people I've known. After his freshman year he returned home to Evergreen State where (I recall) he studied forestry. It became the happy and substantial foundation of an excellent life.

2) Hooray for small business owners.

3) Did you read the Doris Day piece (with slideshow) on the Vanity Fair site? It's distilled from what seems like a first rate new biography of her.

4) Listening to Shostakovich's third symphony, "First of May" -- not his best but it is LOUD enough to keep me going.

Nash you are so full of bullshit, do you EVER listen to yourself? Or do you presume to speak for Hillary supporters. Those who wish they could lose that connection will do so. How old are you anyway? 12?

MAINLY FOR DEXTER:

Had an email asking my whereabouts...I check by sometimes, but some of the scripted stupidity coming from Brian and Nash has dampened my interest. For me to ultimately support the Democratic candidate who I believe already has the fix in, I can't read the crap some of his minions have to say.

Suffice it to say, Nash, I fear for your students if your way of twisting facts spills into the classroom. If this is an example of how college level classes are run, it is no wonder we have a young populace with few critical thinking skills.

But mainly, having read this thread -- Dexter -- surely you listened to what Hillary Clinton actually said re: nukes. She SAID she would respond with nuclear power if Iran nuked Israel. As Sturge pointed out, I can't think of any president who wouldn't have to respond quickly and massivily if Israel was under nuclear attack.

BUT THEN she reminded anyone listening of the DIFFERENCE in our nuclear power and Iran's. We DO have the capability of obliterating that country. She was very clear in saying that we COULD obliterate them.

And yes, a smaller nation with a couple of nukes does need reminded that this is a game they don't want to play.

MadMustard,

Fluffy tail! Fluffy tail!

ET: Will white women refuse to vote for Obama? Obama has not run a sexist campaign but Hillary has run a racist campaign. Thus, she has alienated black voters.

White women who refuse to vote for Obama will not be doing so because of sexist comments that he or his surrogates have made, because there have been none. If white women refuse to vote for Obama it's because they're racist, and that racism was deliberately reinforced by Hillary.

I have sworn off of msnbc and now am a fox loyalite. But I was skipping the channels and I actually heard with my own ears, Mika saying that Hillary was keeping the Wright situation alive on OReilly's show.
Mika absolutedly LIED. He asked her 3 times and she finally answered saying the SAME thing that Obama said. How can people like Mika get away with such lies? This really bothers me. What is so scary is that people watch her and think she tells the truth. How can she sleep at night?

I have sworn off of msnbc and now am a fox loyalite. But I was skipping the channels and I actually heard with my own ears, Mika saying that Hillary was keeping the Wright situation alive on OReilly's show.
Mika absolutedly LIED. He asked her 3 times and she finally answered saying the SAME thing that Obama said. How can people like Mika get away with such lies? This really bothers me. What is so scary is that people watch her and think she tells the truth. How can she sleep at night?

Euro Tom: I think many Clinton supporters are open to Obama but the kicking us while we are down statements by Pelosi and McCaskill make it more difficult to fill in that bubble in the fall. Democrats are so good at losing...it makes me nuts. Maybe they have a secret desire to be martyrs.

I have sworn off of msnbc and now am a fox loyalite. But I was skipping the channels and I actually heard with my own ears, Mika saying that Hillary was keeping the Wright situation alive on OReilly's show.
Mika absolutedly LIED. He asked her 3 times and she finally answered saying the SAME thing that Obama said. How can people like Mika get away with such lies? This really bothers me. What is so scary is that people watch her and think she tells the truth. How can she sleep at night?

Ally, you should probably direct that question to McCaskill and Pelosi and to Obamians; we Clintonistas have no power to change their short sighted actions - as for me, the short answer is no. I was glad she defeated Talent to make his MO senate seat a dem one, but that doesn't do anything for me wrt her opinion about Obama. And yes, considering her 2 years in the senate (not even) she does have an inflated view of herself IMHO. And I have long said Pelosi exercises bad political judgment, and I believe she could be a case study in incompetent leadership, with Harry Reid co-starring.

Suffice it to say, Nash, I fear for your students if your way of twisting facts spills into the classroom. If this is an example of how college level classes are run, it is no wonder we have a young populace with few critical thinking skills.

Posted by Patsi

Patsi, I don't think Nash is really a professor. I think it is a description he uses like a teacher through life or something....

Dexter

"Hillary recently said she would "obliterate" Iran if Iran attacked Israel."

She said she would "obliterate" Iran if it used nuclear weapons against its neighbors ... big difference.

She was talking about a way to encourage Iran and its neighbors not to develop nuclear delivery systems by providing the umbrella of US protection similar to the mutual deterrence that existed between the US and USSR.

Now if you want to be against that, fine, but get it right.

Nash, again b.s. ... Hillary has not run a racist campaign. Your white guilt must be kicking in again. Obama on the other hand had to haul out his long, dead white grandmother to play the racist card. Sad, isn't it

Wow, Craig, three whole names -- shocking. How many hundreds of names would be on the list of people that Bill and Hillary Clinton have thrown under the bus in their lifelong pursuit of power?

Ally -- Claire McCaskill is playing the old game of sending out a an unverifiable lie to try to block the momentum from your opponent. "Go home folks! It's all over. The superdelegates have already decided and they're just not saying anything yet." A desperate move by a sinking ship.

We'll remember this one Claire.

"Dave" another anonymous poster?

I'm outta here for a while... Same dance, different Hall...

pogo,

I'll repeat what I've noted about Pelosi several times --

She is NOT a product of San Francisco's culture and politics.

She is a total product -- and a literal offspring -- of the Baltimore Party Machine.

Which explains almost all of her instincts and decisions (many of which are deliberate, impacted indecisions).

Rez

I've always liked "fenestrated". Depending on the degree of the divorce you could pick which window you used.

"He fenestrated him from the 90th floor"

ET, I'm pretty sure you're wrong about nash.

isnt it defenestrated? (out of window)

someone fenestrated would be turned into a window......which could be just as bad.........

Diva: I guess "The Party's Over" has been the official Obama campaign message since Ohio and Texas hasn't it. My issue with it was and continues to be: How does this help Obama get the votes he doesn't have? Disrespecting her supporters is dumb dumb dumb. But, according to the Obama supporters on this blog, he doesn't need us. He has his hands full with the young 'uns, Independents and Republicans.

Pogo: I just can't figure out why Claire thinks she speaks for the party? Her head is getting so big it is going to break the TV screen.

Patsi: I am glad you are back (maybe? sometimes?)

FYI...the Tulip Time Festival begins here tomorrow. That means there will lots of tourist buses all around the city of Holland for the next 8-9 days. If anyone would like to practice throwing people under buses , may I suggest coming to Holland? It might be kinda fun! Think of it! Who wouldn't wanna throw tourists under buses? We could start with all the tourists who make illegal left turns on US 31 eventhough they have signs posted everywhere saying that left turns are illegal on US 31. That would keep us busy for probably 3 or 4 hours at least! Whaddaya say folks?

Hey, didn't ya get the memo? Obama's grandma and I are both quite comfortable with being "typical" and we aren't ashamed of our sex or our race either, so typical white person is OK with us. Read more and you'll find out just how much Obama and his grandma love each other. She doesn't appreciate people trying to attack her grandson by saying that they know how she feels better than she does. Did you all notice that the head of the DNC when Bill Clinton was president has just changed his endorsement from Clinton to Obama and is holding a conference today to urge other super dels to join him and giving reasons that this is essential to the democratic party?

We've had enough silly anti-Obama threads. We need to return to a discussion of substantive issues.

I suggest that tomorrow we spend the whole day talking about what what role the Clintons had in the murder of Vince Foster.

You know that the Republicans will bring this up in the general election, and the MSM will spend at least a week covering it, so we all need to get up to speed on all the details.

ET, I'm pretty sure you're wrong about nash.

Posted by: pogo | May 1, 2008 9:35 A

REALLY? Wow, then Patsi is right on. I pity the students.

Corey, when I was in ME, the summer (I use the term loosely - local Mainers have been known to refer to summer as a beautiful Saturday) visitors were called cone eaters because so manh of them wandered around the towns on the coast eating ice cream cones. They sell a lot of ice cream in Holland during Tulip season?

"The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of North Carolina’s Presidential Primary finds Barack Obama leading Hillary Clinton 51% to 37%. Earlier this month, Obama led by twenty-three percentage points." April 29, 2008

"Obama is crashing in North Carolina." OD

While Sen. Obama still has a good advantage in NC, his lead has fallen noticeably.

BEWARE OF THE CHARADE++++++++++++++++

Either most of the “pundits” are stupid or they are in it. There are some prevailing questions in leading up to the "divorce" between the Rev and Sen Obama. After the painful PA lost, pundits have been saying that the Wright controversy is one of the reasons for the loss. That Sen Obama has to distance himself from the Rev to improve his poll rating among Democrats and Independents. But how??? So what happens is interesting. A week before the IN and NC primary, for UNEXPLAINED reason, the Rev resurfaces. For two days, he makes a string of appearances/speeches to defend himself and spew the same sermon he did in the pew.++++ This NOW gives Sen Obama a chance to condemn and “TOTALLY and “COMPLETELY” break his relationship from the Rev, something he failed to do in his first speech. Then Rev Wright now disappears and goes back in seclusion. Sen Obama now can put his controversial pastor behind him and have a clean break. This way, he can convince the electorate and more importantly the Superdelegates to throw their support to him. +++++++++The uneasiness in me keeps asking was it a real divorce or just a political charade???

ET: Oh yeah? Well, I don't really think you're in Europe. I think you work the night shift at Burger King and live in your parent's garage.

Just kidding.

I have nothing but respect for Burger King employees.

nash, you need to see if you can find an emoticon for dripping sarcasm

Renee

I'm a 5 and I keep looking at the filly, Eight Belles. It's a difficult post position for a girl in a 20 horse field because she could get knocked around quite a bit by the guys coming out of the gate. Maybe they should have named her Hillary. : )

A person's gotta do what a person's gotta do...

pogo,

I think at our ages that emoticon should be a leaky pair of Depends.

YAHOOOOO!
a MadMustard and a Patsi sighting all in one morning.....

Nash.... you will always be my lovable goatman..... if you don't like Hillary.... that's fine by me.... I think any comments made about the candidates are fair game..... but to say that any white woman who refuses to vote for Obama is a racist is a direct personal insult to many of your fellow bloggers...... and it smacks of reverse racism and bullying tactics.... you don't wear it very well.....

pogo..... I agree completely about Pelosi..... she has been a major disappointment for me....

I have been searching for a link to the democratic congressional candidates in Mississippi and Lousiana who are running ads that literally show them running from Obama? They were radio ads and I heard the ads, I believe on CNN.

What Craig has posted is the ammunition the repugs will shoot in the GE. Craig didn't invent these quotes...they come directly from the mouth of BHO.

Elephant ears are the choice snack at Tulip Time , although we do have a Kilwins , Ben & Jerry's and Cold Stone Creamery in downtown Holland now. BTW , my brother-in-law's sister and her family live in Maine.

pogo,

I think at our ages that emoticon should be a leaky pair of Depends.

Craig,

As i said yesterday I think Obama was most pissed at Wright for calling him a politician lol.

What I see happening to Obama in all the conections you cited is his inability to define himself and he has let others frame the question.

Example : Ayers. Instead of "how can you be friends with that bomb throwing radical", change the subject to having been proud to serve on the board of the Woods Fund that did so much for the Southside of Chicago.

Instead of abandoning Wright with unbelievable statements of " I wasn't there" , "I didn't know" , defend him.
He is defendable and the fact that the sound bite snippits totally misrepresent the sermons gives him a lever to return the attack.
As it is it looks as if Obama has no moral backbone.

All of this is from one problem that Obama has. He is too inexperienced and it is starting to show.

Jack

Anyone who wants to keep an eye on the odds between now and Saturday

http://www.kentuckyderby.com/2008/future-wager/odds

Jamie , my sister is giving a 10 minute speech at some Kentucky Derby Dinner on Saturday Night.

I have nothing but respect for Burger King employees.

Posted by: nash | May 1, 2008 9:48 AM

Better be careful with your statement Nash. Some of them might even support Hillary. Therefore they are racists. Will you still have "nothing but respect" for them ? :)

Posted by: karela | May 1, 2008 9:40 AM

Karela are you channeling Barack's Grandmother? She's been dead since 1995 !

Mustard!!!!!! Where have you been?

ET: Is Hillary running a racist campaign? When the primary season began, 65% of blacks supported Hillary. It’s down to 10% now.

Jim Clyburn, House majority whip and the highest ranking black member of Congress said this is what he is hearing from black members of the House: they are furious at both of the Clintons for using racist tactics.

It doesn't matter whether YOU think the Clintons are running a racist campaign, what matters is what black people think

So many Dems are living in a Dream World - they believe Obama can put all this stuff behind him in the GE campaign. The determining vote WOULD be influenced by the Repub attacks on Obama's character - notice how Repubs like the "character issue". Obama is weak - he has been protected by corporate media. Ask yourself why has MSM (which is not liberal) been pushing for an Obama nomination. The answer should be clear to anyone who has watched the MSM in action over the years. Its all about manipulation of the masses - PSYOPS.

Sturgeone

You are correct Mr. Fish. Defenestrated it is, though I suppose you could throw someone in the window as an alternative to throwing one's hat in the ring.

ET

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madelyn_and_Stanley_Dunham

I stand corrected, it is her MOTHER who died in 1995. Sorry about that...

Hope to see some superd's leaving from HIM to go to Hillary...

It doesn't matter whether YOU think Obama is not running a racist campaign, what matters is what working class white people think.....

it works both ways.....

One of the things that has been cited in reviews of both of Senator Obama's memoirs is the notion of identity.

In the first it is a search for it.

In the second there is a declaration of it -- like an idea, a concept, a program.

The quotes that Craig has cited have been on more than a few peoples' minds for awhile... as they keep on amplifying concerns those books raised.

For all the writing, for all the claims that his persona is a transformative event for the nation...

Senator Barack Obama doesn't know himself terribly well.

He knows his idea of himself. He should: he created it.

But one's self is never a quotable idea, however complex.

A self is more complicated and difficult than a persona.

In the end... he is saying, "I didn't know" way too much.

To not know Rev. Wright, Rezko, Ayres, etc., might be revealing that Barack Obama is nearer to who he was at 20 than he'd like to admit --

Because as a writer I know we do not meet ourselves on paper or in comfortable circumstances.

We might ourselves in conflict, trouble, confrontation, challenge, failure and our betrayals whether of ourselves, our principles or of others.

My daughter's eight year old half-brother is a very interesting and talent kid.

And his most frequent phrase when confronted with anything is, "Oh, really? I didn't know!"... followed most often by "It's not my fault!"

I'd feel better about him (and the country) if instead of saying "I didn't know" or somehow diminishing his connection to the people cited in Craig's post, he would say, "I used poor judgment. I was ignoring or justifying a lot of what I heard and saw in these people."

Unfortunately that would invalidate his major claim on the Presidency... his judgement...

Because, as a citizen, he was opposed to the Iraq War.

Which makes him as qualified to be the next President as virtually everyone who shows up on this blog from its founding to the present.

There's enough that's disturbing about all three candidates.

But this one... such naivete is not an innocent thing but a willful habit.

ET,

I forgot to add. . what the hell did they teach you at TESC. And you worked in the library!. . .j/k

Saw Sarah P. yesterday.

Carol --------------

"How can people like Mika get away with such lies?"

The LBs

Nash

"White women who refuse to vote for Obama will not be doing so because of sexist comments that he or his surrogates have made, because there have been none. If white women refuse to vote for Obama it's because they're racist, and that racism was deliberately reinforced by Hillary."

If you were any more full of it, we would have to call in the cesspool pumper.

Thanks Pogo..

The North Carolina descent of Senator O is striking.
The Rev.Wright affair is having a greater impact than I would have anticipated in such a short time.

I have a question. Exactly what is a community organizer ? Obama supporters, including the lovely Michelle keep touting his experience in this field as a plus for middle class blue collar voters.

renee: When I said white women who refuse to vote for Obama are racist, I was talking about women Democrats who would refuse to vote for him in the general election.

Since he has not run a sexist campaign, it's reasonable to assume the reason would be race, especially since the Clintons have encouraged that sort of thinking.

The point is that black Democrats are justified in not voting for Clinton in the general election, due to her racism, but women Democrats have no justification for not voting for Obama because he has NOT played the "gender" card.

McCain will, if she's the nominee. You can count on that.

Please explain why a white woman who votes for a white woman is a racist, but a black woman who votes for a black man is not a racist?

renee: I am a Capricorn, so I guess that does make me a "goatman."

OD and I believe it was Gidget: My mom (Southern Oregon) switched from Independent to Democrat so she can vote for Hillary (after voting for Bush twice.) She said she had to drive "all the way across town to do it" but she didn't want to take a chance on mailing it Monday in case it didn't get there Tuesday. Thank you for the registration deadline reminder...

Rez Rez Rez...

I didn't work at the Library that long... it was like one big dysfunctional family there and I seriously doubt it has changed much.

KAOS was good but I got tired of the new students coming in and feeling "oppressed" because we station managers had a job to do to uphold the viability of the station and maintain our FCC license.

I studied Political Economy and Social Change, Washington State History, Popular Culture and Folklore, a few other courses and then the MPA program.

I did get tired of the whole "white guilt" atmosphere there. The far left is just as oppressive as the far right. After a while I had a chance to move and I took it.

Since he has not run a sexist campaign, it's reasonable to assume the reason would be race, especially since the Clintons have encouraged that sort of thinking.

Posted by YOU KNOW WHO

There you go again Nash. I will argue that the blacks who abandoned the most African-American Presidency in history are the ones who are racist. They jumped ship for a candidate because he is 1/2 black. Talk about racism !!

Oh wait, I forgot, Blacks and other ethnic minorities cannot be racist. Only whites can because power + prejudice = racism and peeps of color do not have the power.

glad that was cleared up for me... I carry it with my white guilt always.

I don't believe this. InsiderAdvantage has Hillary in the lead in NC. SurveyUSA and Insider have been pretty good so far.

http://www.southernpoliticalreport.com/downloads/uploaded/43_InsiderAdvantage_Majority_Opinion_NC_Dem_Poll_(4-30-08).pdf

Ally..You are welcome.

Registered Democrats have dramatically increased this year..good news for November and bad news for Senator Gordon Smith.

I should run for President because I don't know how to play cards.

ET

His grandmother is still alive. She's 85.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madelyn_and_Stanley_Dunham

Nash

"Since he has not run a sexist campaign, it's reasonable to assume the reason would be race, especially since the Clintons have encouraged that sort of thinking."

How about running a dishonest campaign accusing the Clintons of being racist when they weren't at all? "That sort of thinking" has existed only in the minds of biased media reports and gullible Obama supporters.

oh yeah to Rez, I also studied with the Labor Center's New School for Union Organizers learning Labor history and how to make it relevant in the modern economy.

ubns: Community Organizers are left wing populists who try to organize poor people to exert more political power at the local level. For more info, click this link to wikipedia.com

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_organizer

When Obama was helping poor people in Chicago to get more police protecion and better trash pick-ups, Hillary was working for a corporate law firm helping Wal-Mart to keep unions out.

Who would you vote for, based on this?

The bitter truth:

"Hillary Clinton leads Barack Obama in the popular vote, and this is her path to victory.

She will ultimately win the Democratic nomination by convincing the superdelegates that her popular vote lead makes it legitimate for them to support her. It gives them the cover they need to deny Obama a nomination that he otherwise would have won.

What’s wrong with this picture?

First, Clinton does not lead Obama in the popular vote. It is a fantasy.

Second, the people she most needs to convince that this fantasy is true are the people least likely to believe it."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9994.html

By the time the General election arrives Obama will look like a character from a Charles Dickens tale. I can see it now,..... Michelle with whip in hand, stands over the poor broken Obama shouting, "get up,.... GET UP, there's nothing wrong with you, you sniveling wimp", while the poor, broken, sniveling Obama tries desperately to disavow another long time friend and associate. No longer strong enough himself to throw them under the bus, he must now rely on his belle Michelle to handle the disposal........and another one bites the dust

Compare 4-15 to 4-29 InsideAdvantage and take a look at the Black and White votes. Undecided even went up. First time I have seen the Black vote go down. So something is changing out there. Is it Wright or something else.

http://www.southernpoliticalreport.com/downloads/uploaded/39_InsiderAdvantage_Majority_Opinion%20_NC_Dem_poll__(4-15-08).pdf

renee, ET, see, in the minds of some Obama supporters, ONLY "cards" matter. Experience and things such as that don't count - it's not what they've based their support of their candidate on. Actually, in my mind, anyone who thinks Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton is racist is a f*cking idiot on that issue.

I organized my CDs a few weeks ago - alphabetically, by artist and by household memeber (Holiday and Classical (by composer) given their own sections in the organizers). Maybe Obama did the same thing in Chicago communities.

9/11, here's a suggestion for that emoticon. 3:::

Today on The Root --

The Trouble With Transcending Race
By Marjorie Valbrun | TheRoot.com

May 1, 2008--Why the Double O's are standing on shaky ground.

http://www.theroot.com/id/46238

"How about running a dishonest campaign accusing the Clintons of being racist when they weren't at all? "

Jamie,

Wouldn't you agree, we're all racist.? It's just a matter of the degree that's important!

If you're mixed race, it gets a little more complicated.;)

*eases out of the armchair to get more java*

ROFLMAO

Craig - I think this one is a definite top ten post for the primary season.

BHO has some issues with his relationships...perhaps the early abandonment he experienced as a child, his conflicted issues with race, have left him with a poor sense of judgement. We know that HRC could never please her father, thus her workhorse mentality. JMc used to hold his breath as a child when angry and his parents would put him in ice water, a clue to the early source of his anger issues. Sure a conflicted group of Senators. I hope we see a Czar of Mental Health in the next Presidental cabinet or this issue is seriously addressed with a National Health care plan.

Prof. Nash
You have not answered my question.
Why are the black women who vote for a black man also not racists? Why in your eyes are the 68% white HRC voters in PA racists, but the 92% BHO black voters not racists?

The road to the White House is paved with good political patrons. Just ask the Clintons.

SD countdown continues

In CT it is being reported that SD John Olsen, president
of the CT AFL-CIO is expected to endorse Hillary today.

http://blogs.courant.com/capitol_watch/2008/04/hillary-to-pick-up-a-superdele.html

C'mon Wendy - this post could have been written by a 3rd grader.

Perhaps "top ten" to show which candidate Craig "hopes" will win...

Rezdog...if BHO becomes President, his road, too, will be paved with good political patrons...I understand patrons make good road grade. Just like the road to hell being paved with good intentions.

Nash

That just makes Sen. Obama idealistic. It doesn't make him effective. His effort to get abestos removed from apartments failed and then he left for Harvard and hasn't really looked back since.

Michelle Obama's interview the other day revealed peop