Produced by CQ's Andrew Satter
Now on C-Span.org
Craig talks about presidential politics
with C-Span's Steve Scully
and students at the University of Denver (5/29)
Produced by CQ's Andrew Satter
Now on C-Span.org
Craig talks about presidential politics
with C-Span's Steve Scully
and students at the University of Denver (5/29)
Comments
Good morning.
Another Taylor Marsh Smear against Obama.
"An example of Marsh's anti-Obama and pro-to-the-point-of-delusional-Clinton postings is shown in the above graphic. The graphic is an actual grab taken from Marsh's website. Take care to note that the displayed section (along with the rest of her blog) is devoted solely to assailing Obama and peddling Clinton propaganda. Understanding that, pay special attention to the headline (hyperlinked on her blog) circled in red. The headline reads, "Barak draws harsh criticism for calling on Olmert to quit post".
The link actually brings the visitor at Marsh's blog to a report posted on Haaretz, which is an Israeli news site. Obviously, by posting the link in her anti-Obama/anti-Democratic Party 'news' section, Marsh is hoping that her visitors will assume 'Barack' Obama has committed some kind of foreign affairs gaffe. Of course, the report has NOTHING to do with Obama:
"Referring to [Israeli] Defense Minister Ehud Barak's call on Wednesday for Olmert to step aside, which he made after Jewish American businessman Morris Talansky testified on the hundreds of thousands of dollars he is suspected of transferring the prime minister…""
Read the story here.
http://www.progressivedailybeacon.com/
God Bless.
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| May 30, 2008 6:54 AM
During a fund-raiser in Denver, Obama — a former constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago Law School — was asked what he hoped to accomplish during his first 100 days in office.
“I would call my attorney general in and review every single executive order issued by George Bush and overturn those laws or executive decisions that I feel violate the constitution,” said Obama.
He'll overturn laws? What about the separation of powers? How can a President overturn a law passed by Congress?
Presidents issue exective orders. It's Congress that passes and repeals laws. Our courts decide the constitutionality of laws passed by Congress.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/30/03932/0404
Posted by: Lynn C | May 30, 2008 6:58 AM
Anon
And your point is Taylor has done something wrong? She has every right to be baised for Hillary!!! Ever vist Kos or Obama Huffington Post? Theres room for every one here on the Net.
Posted by: tonyb39
| May 30, 2008 7:00 AM
Lynn C...
Through the courts that's how and on the executive orders he can issue new ones overturning any executive order that is unconstitutional.
God Bless.
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| May 30, 2008 7:01 AM
Doesn't this sound exactly like Bush signing statements saying that Bush will not respect parts of the law because they were in his interpretation unconstitutional?
Is Obama saying his Administration will bring a lot of cases before the Courts -- or that he as President will not respect laws?
Doesn't the timeline -- the first 100 days--seem as if Obama means he himself will "overturn" laws passed while Bush was in office?
Posted by: Lynn C | May 30, 2008 7:05 AM
scott mcclellan on cspan right now......
Posted by: sturgeone | May 30, 2008 7:34 AM
good morning gang.....
Craig....great video..... I miss Monty Hall!
thank god the Red Sox are back on the east coast..... Manny is at home run number 499..... his fans won't have to see #500 on replay from the west coast....
think I'll start my weekend early....... YEEEEHHHAAAWWWW......
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| May 30, 2008 7:46 AM
tonyb39...
So you believe its alright to put misleading or untruthful information to destroy someone? And did you read the link I posted last night?
She has every right to be biased for Hillary, but not to smear someone while doing it by posting a link that suggests something that's not true about Obama.
Read the link I left above.
God Bless.
I got knocked offline by a power outage as I was typing this up, so sorry for the late reply.
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| May 30, 2008 7:49 AM
Good Morning, Craig and Everyone,
Craig, in reference to your post, the Florida/Michigan problem seems
so convoluted that it frustrates me completely. It appears that all our
leaders are at fault for the mess--both Democrats and Republicans. But, why should the voters be the ones to suffer? Splitting the votes 50/50 just doesn't seem fair to me since Senator Clinton won the most votes in Florida
and Obama was on the ballot.
No one can force Senator Clinton to accept the decision made by the committee. If Florida and Michigan are seated, even 50/50, doesn't the number of delegates needed to win the nomination go up too? So, neither Obama nor Clinton will have the needed number by Saturday.
Posted by: prof marcia
| May 30, 2008 7:50 AM
Lynn C...
Do you believe that the President should have the right to strip American Citizens of there rights and hold them without the right to a lawyer or a court hearing.
He does under the MCA of 2006.
Or spy on American Citizens without a warrant as he has been doing for a long time now?
Personally I don't think that any President or any American Citizen is above the law, perhaps you do.
Anyway that is only my opinion for what its worth.
God Bless.
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| May 30, 2008 7:53 AM
Nick...
Sounds like a winner to me.
God Bless.
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| May 30, 2008 7:58 AM
Well back to work.
God Bless.
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| May 30, 2008 7:59 AM
Craig,
I saw you on Abrams last night. You, again, seemed the more logical,
reasonable and sane one in the group. I like that you brought out the fact
that Hillary may possibly secure the popular vote if Florida and Michigan
are seated. That would be a great talking point for Senator Clinton even
if she loses the nomination. Of course, that's the real reason the DNC and
Camp Obama desperately want the primary shut down on Saturday. How
awkward for Obama if Hillary actually has the popular vote when he announces that he's the nominee.
Isn't it interesting that Nancy Pelosi insisted that she'd back whoever won the popular vote?
Posted by: prof marcia
| May 30, 2008 7:59 AM
A Very Clear Message From Clinton Supporters:
" ...Clinton supporter Christi Adkins spoke for millions of us in wanting all the votes — including those of Florida and Michigan — to be counted, particularly since in caucus states, Clinton supporters were already disadvantaged by being unfairly overwhelmed and bullied aside by young Obama-ites who wrested control of precinct and county caucus gatherings (which many hard-working Clinton supporters couldn’t attend because they had to work, care for small children, or were in a hospital or nursing home)."
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/30/a-very-clear-message-from-clinton-supporters/
Posted by: GORDO | May 30, 2008 8:06 AM
mornin, all -
ProfM, you are exactly right. And while I don't think she will do this, Hillary could say that she does not plan to concede until the votes are taken at the convention since the SDs are free to change their minds on a whim. A 50/50 split of the delegates would not comport with the DNC sanctions, and as was pointed out yesterday, at least in the case of MI, would give Obama an unearned gift of delegates from a state where no one - other than write-ins like Sheila (unsuccessful ones because he did not register asa a write in candidate) cast a vote for him - and as a result of his own actions, I might add.
AP, I never saw such outrage when the Huffpo writers were mischaracterizing HIllary & Bill's remarks during the campaign for the sole purpose of smearing Hillary and Bill as racists. You want to hear smearing? Listen to Make it Plain on Sirius left at 5 p.m. if you have access. You will love it on at least 2 levels.
Posted by: pogo
| May 30, 2008 8:10 AM
Lynnn-- It's okay -- Obama didn't know that Presidents can't overturn federal laws -- only Exec Orders. He's only a Freshman Senator with less time in the Congress than some interns. He'll learn. I hear he's a quick study with great judgment. After all, he makes great choices with his friends and his church.
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| May 30, 2008 8:10 AM
Cavuto and Cristi Adkins -- March on DC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIZ4teKidZk
Posted by: GORDO | May 30, 2008 8:11 AM
Watching MoJo -- Mika's picking on Obama. Tweety is thinkin git doesn't matter. Barnicle just wants to turn the page -- from what to what?
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| May 30, 2008 8:11 AM
Morning Peeps,
She quit yet?
tick tock
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 30, 2008 8:15 AM
Another good op-ed in today's WSJ--this time by John Fund:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121210923476431299.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries
Sen Obama's supporters may view these opinion items as being unfair to Mr Obama, but fairness is simply not an issue when it comes to political rhetoric. What counts is public perception of the candidate.
Posted by: Flatus
| May 30, 2008 8:17 AM
Alicia,
But he has good judgment because he says he has good judgment.
He also has a Secret Timetable To End The War In Vietnam, A Heart Full Of Compassionate Conservatism and is A Uniter, Not A Divider.
And his supporters are the people his supporters have been waiting for.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 8:17 AM
Alicia, Obama's expertise on that matter should come more from the fact that he was a conlaw lecturer at UChicago Law than from his Senatorial service. I think he does know that he can't overturn laws passed by Congress on his own volition, but they can be challenged as unconstitutional by the Justice Department or he could submit legislation that would overturn them. As for those friends and his church...
Posted by: pogo
| May 30, 2008 8:20 AM
Hey Obama's delegate lead reached 200 yesterday, way cool. Hey Craig you should have worn a costume for the Lets Make A Deal piece! I don't agree that the rules committee not giving a decision tomorrow, too many people on both sides of the issue want to see this issue resolved already and the signals coming from committee members look like it's going to be the full florida delegation seated but only each vote counting for half, and a 50/50 delegate split for MI with no popular vote. But as we all know (but for some reason you never mention) it really doesn't matter, Obama's lead is too much for anything the rules committee does to make a difference.
tick tock
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 30, 2008 8:26 AM
No, Brian --
Nancy Pelosi has not quit as Speaker of the House despite her notable failures to followthrough on the promises which won the Democrats a slim majority.
Even lobbying regs and getting the H of R to work five whole days a week exceed both her reach and her grasp.
But you're right -- she should quit.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 8:27 AM
Flatus: Thanks for the article. If McCain had made the gaffes that Obama has made recently, the media would have booked him a room at a nice old-age home in Arizona.
Posted by: Ally
| May 30, 2008 8:27 AM
In a recent CQ post, the latest Pew polls stated that Obama is running just even with McCain. Craig writes:
"He (Obama) is down 13 points among white women compared to March
and among independents is down 49% compared to 62% in late February."
As I've written here before and Craig points out, there is growing frustration
among Clinton supporters. . .( for many reasons).
When will Obama supporters face the grim reality that a large number
of Democrats and other Americans are not jumping on board the Obama
train?
Posted by: prof marcia
| May 30, 2008 8:28 AM
John Fund? LOL, boy Flatus you sure love taking your talking points from the scummiest of repugs don't you?
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 30, 2008 8:29 AM
flatus - how DARE you smear Obama by posting a link to an article by John Fund about him? :-)
Posted by: pogo
| May 30, 2008 8:29 AM
Oh, flatus, btw, even scumbags like Fund can be right, right?
Posted by: pogo
| May 30, 2008 8:32 AM
pogo...
"I never saw such outrage when the Huffpo writers were mischaracterizing HIllary & Bill's remarks during the campaign for the sole purpose of smearing Hillary and Bill as racists. You want to hear smearing?"
If there Obama supporters and they are not putting Hillary's name to a link that is not linked to a story that has nothing to do about Hillary I have no problem with.
Same goes for anyone supporting Hillary who's not putting a link up to a story that has nothing to do about Obama.
That's politics and I expect that will always be.
But to make it appear that the link your posting is about the Candidate and its not is worse than politics and that's were I have a problem.
God Bless.
PS: I made that comment above about the link because I guessed that GORDO would run with it since it is Taylor Marsh and we all know how much he uses her to smear Obama.
Back to work.
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| May 30, 2008 8:33 AM
Alicia Knight...
You sure assume a lot about what Obama knows about the Law since he is a lawyer after all.
God Bless.
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| May 30, 2008 8:35 AM
Marcia: I believe that the Obama campaign knows the reality that they won't receive many Clinton supporters. The campaign believes their new coalition (urban, younger) in addition to some previous Hillocrats will be enough to propel them to victory in November. That's why I don't believe they see the threats of Hillocrats voting for McCain or staying home as a cause for concern as they are redrawing the electoral map. It's been obvious for quite a while that Obama's contention that he could get all of Clinton's votes but she can't get all of his was naive at best.
Posted by: Ally
| May 30, 2008 8:36 AM
John Fund? LOL, boy Flatus you sure love taking your talking points from the scummiest of repugs don't you?
Posted by: BrianInNYC
Nah, Brian.
If flatus wanted to quote "the scummiest of repugs" (at least by content), he would have cut and pasted something (really ANYTHING) from you.
You are the Grand Old Poopy.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 8:36 AM
Keep it up Brian -- We'll see you at the McCain inauguration.
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| May 30, 2008 8:37 AM
AP -----------------------
Wrong again. So what's new about that?
Posted by: GORDO | May 30, 2008 8:38 AM
Will Taylor Marsh be demonstrating tomorrow? Oh what a merry band of hysterics they all will make. Gordo will you be there, maybe we'll see you snarling and growling on TV. Just go steal the bus fair from your mom's purse, you really should be there.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 30, 2008 8:39 AM
Bri-Bri,
Try calling Joe Conason a repug, won't you?
Here he is questioning and critiqueing Obama on his failure to hold European Affairs sub-committee hearings in that repugathon, Salon:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2007/12/29/obama_europe/
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 8:41 AM
Alicia you don't scare us, so spare us your threats.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 30, 2008 8:41 AM
"Hysterics", Brian?
All misogyny, all the time.
You are a treasure chestrogen of hatred, little man.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 8:42 AM
Doesn't the timeline -- the first 100 days--seem as if Obama means he himself will "overturn" laws passed while Bush was in office? Posted by: Lynn C
DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR
Posted by: chloe
| May 30, 2008 8:46 AM
here's some good news for the environment - the clean coal initiative (a contradiction in terms) has hit a roadblock - reality.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/30/business/30coal.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
Posted by: pogo
| May 30, 2008 8:46 AM
Brian, your acidic comment caused me to review what I posted. I was careful in putting it in context and made no editorial evaluation of the op-ed's content beyond saying it was "good" which, in my mind, meant relevant.
I'm sorry you found it offensive.
"Another good op-ed in today's WSJ--this time by John Fund:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121210923476431299.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries
Sen Obama's supporters may view these opinion items as being unfair to Mr Obama, but fairness is simply not an issue when it comes to political rhetoric. What counts is public perception of the candidate."
Posted by: Flatus
| May 30, 2008 8:48 AM
Did anyone see O'Reilly last night explode over msnbc"s lack of professional ethics throughout this election. He's no big Hillary fan, but it was really obvious how angry he was that a news organization could be so slanted. He objected to the way they sliced, diced (his words) and destroyed Hillary during this election, and stated the obvious: they had lost all credibility. He was practically jumping up and down, and reminded me a little of myself when I get really angry. This was no act folks.
I know a lot of people here would never listen to O'Reilly, but I started watching "fair and balanced" during this election in order to escape the propaganda.
He announced that his recent ratings are higher than msnbc and cnn combined. So I don't feel lonely over there.
A breath of fresh air.
Posted by: chloe
| May 30, 2008 8:50 AM
Ally,
Thanks for your post. You're right. Obama's campaign doesn't think they
need Clinton supporters, but even many independents, especially women,
are outraged at the misogynistic, elitist environment the Obama machine
has generated. Camp Obama may soon discover that our voices do matter when Obama tries to win the general election without us.
Posted by: prof marcia
| May 30, 2008 8:50 AM
Jeez...this crane collapse in New York is terrible! Why does this keep happening? Is this a regulatory issue?
Posted by: Ally
| May 30, 2008 8:51 AM
WASHINGTON - Unlike Hillary Rodham Clinton, rival Barack Obama planned for the long haul. Clinton hinged her whole campaign on an early knockout blow on Super Tuesday, while Obama's staff researched congressional districts in states with primaries that were months away. What they found were opportunities to win delegates, even in states they would eventually lose.
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Obama's campaign mastered some of the most arcane rules in politics, and then used them to foil a front-runner who seemed to have every advantage — money, fame and a husband who had essentially run the Democratic Party for eight years as president.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080530/ap_on_el_pr/obama_strategy
tick tock
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 30, 2008 8:51 AM
GORDO,
Thanks for the link to the Clinton supporter's groups planning to march
outside the DNC committee meeting Saturday. Good for them! If I were
in Florida I'd join them.
Posted by: prof marcia
| May 30, 2008 8:53 AM
Rupert Murdoch loves Obama—Fox News to give him the Fox News treatment
http://www.236.com/news/2008/05/29/rupert_murdoch_loves_obamafox_1_6813.php
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 30, 2008 8:56 AM
Alicia,
". . .McCain inauguration." I love it!
Posted by: prof marcia
| May 30, 2008 8:56 AM
Marcia jets fly from Florida to DC, you should be there!
tick tock
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 30, 2008 8:57 AM
Prof Marcia posted: " You're right. Obama's campaign doesn't think they
need Clinton supporters"
You are so right. They've been told this by their leader all along. Here's Obama, speaking in February:
"I am confident I will get her votes if I'm the nominee. It's not clear she would get the votes I got if she were the nominee."
Posted by: Patsi
| May 30, 2008 8:58 AM
Camp Obama may soon discover that our voices do matter when Obama tries to win the general election without us.
Posted by: prof marcia
Marcia,
They don't think much of our reasoning skills, but they do think we have short memories.
Posted by: chloe
| May 30, 2008 9:00 AM
"I am confident I will get her votes if I'm the nominee. It's not clear she would get the votes I got if she were the nominee."
Posted by: Patsi
Said proudly with his usual arrogance.
Posted by: chloe
| May 30, 2008 9:02 AM
If the Clinton folk had done their homework they would have know from history that Obama is a master at working election rules and laws and they would have been prepared to deal with the threat he posed. But of course hubris got in the way and she didn't see the threat quickly over taking her. Oh well hindsight is 20/20.
tick tock
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 30, 2008 9:02 AM
Hi Chloe,
Yes! I saw the O'Reilly explosion over the way Senator Clinton has been
destroyed by the Clinton hitmen at MSNBC. It was wonderous to behold. My mom (also a Hillary supporter) and I were cheering.
Don't feel lonely as you watch Fox. I'm a lifelong Democrat and out of desperation for any news about the Clintons that seemed even remotely credible I started watching Fox. With the exception of Dick Morris, I much prefer Fox to Obama Central--MSNBC.
Posted by: prof marcia
| May 30, 2008 9:05 AM
http://www.sallyminker.com/art/2-d/images/grapes-print.jpg
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 30, 2008 9:08 AM
Dems Seek to Avoid Meltdown
"I am reliably informed that the two co-chairs of the rules committee, Alexis Herman and James Roosevelt Jr., have been working with the campaigns of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton to try to work out a compromise that would settle the matter at this weekend's meeting and avoid further bloodletting."
http://www.creators.com/opinion/roger-simon.html
Posted by: chloe
| May 30, 2008 9:09 AM
When will Obama supporters face the grim reality that a large number
of Democrats and other Americans are not jumping on board the Obama
train?
Posted by: prof marcia | May 30, 2008 8:28 AM
I think at least, here on the Blog understood many many weeks ago.....
From what I am hearing here in my little peace of Tacoma, there is a migration occuring toward Obama. So the jurry is out and the bottom line will be the General.
Obama WILL sustain a loss of votes from Clinton supporters. I have no doubt. But how much of a loss will be the story of the day.
No one on the campaign is about to stop. The voter registration campaign is on going too. even in states that apear to be going to him. nothing is being left to a maybe.
Posted by: Chef Sheila Hussein The Nun
| May 30, 2008 9:10 AM
It was wonderous to behold. My mom (also a Hillary supporter) and I were cheering. Posted by: prof marcia
Thanks Marcia,
I tune out when I see Morris too.
Posted by: chloe
| May 30, 2008 9:14 AM
Well, AP, If that progressivedailybeacon bullshit is true, it does not appear on her site now. Since that photo doesn't appear on her site - it's the one HuffPo uses - this looks like a fabrication, although it may not be. Since PDB did not post a link to the Marsh site to "see for yourself", the only link being directly to the Haaertz article, I can only assume it is a fabricated smearjob on Taylor Marsh. Maybe someone can find it, but I can't.
Posted by: pogo
| May 30, 2008 9:17 AM
Obama needs to shut these people up. Who's next?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080530/ap_on_el_pr/obama_pfleger
Posted by: vadaryl
| May 30, 2008 9:20 AM
pogo...
I'll try later when I get home. Marsh is blocked here at work as are many of the links I go to.
In fact I'm surprised that I have access here and a few others as well which maybe some time in the future will also be blocked.
Back to work.
God Bless.
PS: I'm not trying to cause dissent, only trying to look at everything as objectively as I can even though I support Obama.
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| May 30, 2008 9:21 AM
My choice is door 3 so this keeps going. I want HRC and the further it goes the better her chance. However, the DNC should seat all of FL delegates, since the GOP Gov etc put FL in this position. THe FL GOP runs the state and apparently the DNC.
Posted by: jsruby8 | May 30, 2008 9:23 AM
"The Fox Treatment"
Years ago I was kibbutzing at Murdoch's sham attempt to create an internet portal.
One day there was a mass firing. On the next the survivors were gathered up as Murdoch himself appeared in person to assure all that he was 1000% committed to the operation, etc., and that new hires were on the way.
I looked down at the platters of sushi that had been delivered.
"See all that dead fish? That's us."
Two weeks later Murdoch achieved his real end -- he got others to invest five times the amount he had claimed to put into the biz and made a 500% profit on lending his name and brand to a sham.
Expect the same with Obama and Rupert.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 9:23 AM
Carville was on Hannity's radio show and again repeated that Hillary is winning the popular vote. Interesting is how he he came up with that. He is giving Obama the uncommited vote in MI but said you can't count Texas twice.
Posted by: vadaryl
| May 30, 2008 9:24 AM
Hell just froze over. I completely agree with what Brian said:
"If the Clinton folk had done their homework they would have know from history that Obama is a master at working election rules and laws and they would have been prepared to deal with the threat he posed. "
Posted by: Patsi
| May 30, 2008 9:28 AM
Good Morning 9/11 wish I could stay too...
However before I go, I have to say. Obama never recieved money from Mr Murdoch. A sound bite from Murdoch said, "Obama by a Land Slide". you know that means "Lets get Him" in republican talking point speak.....
It always puzzled me when Clinton received campaign donations from Murdoch and no one said anything.....then I accepted that this man is rich and an American citizen.
Posted by: Chef Sheila Hussein The Nun
| May 30, 2008 9:29 AM
Patsi...LOL
Could you bring back a popsicle for me?
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| May 30, 2008 9:30 AM
Outspoken priest caught on video ranting about Hillary at Obama's church
"Pfleger then pretended to wipe tears from his eyes. "She wasn't the only one crying, there was a whole lot of white people crying.''
Republicans have already started hitting Obama over Wright, and by Thursday had seized on Pfleger's comments.
Pfleger is a longtime Obama friend ..."
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/978604,CST-NWS-sweet30.article
Posted by: GORDO | May 30, 2008 9:31 AM
9/11 you of all people should know the word hysterics is not gender based, after all you embody the very essence of the word. Just as your ex-wife (if she'll take your call) if you don't want to take my word for it.
tick tock
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 30, 2008 9:31 AM
that' should read "Just ask your ex-wife...)
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 30, 2008 9:32 AM
I think MSNBC should go ahead and out themselves. They should give an hour of evening prime time political coverage to Trinity Church, hosted by the Reverends Wright and Pfleger. Their theme song can be "I Got 99 Problems But a Bitch Ain't One."
Posted by: Patsi
| May 30, 2008 9:34 AM
Obama's Church: Why Hillary Cried - Father Michael Pfleger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H11x6bMu4Y
Posted by: GORDO | May 30, 2008 9:35 AM
Sheila,
I don't know if you read the other posts in response to my earlier comments
about how many Dems and independents aren't migrating to your candidate.
But, the consensus seemed to be that we Clinton folks know all too well exactly what you wrote-- that Camp Obama has basically cut off those who aren't currently with them in order to go after the new kids on the block. Did you notice how Obama didn't even campaign in states he thought he'd lose? That doesn't seem to be a guy who is a uniter or a fighter.
Also, the hate-Clinton rhetoric has been ratcheted up several octaves recently
by Obama supporters and the media. I don't hear Obama calling for a moritorium on Clinton attacks. And just today there's another of Obama's
"acquaintances" demonizing Hillary--the ranting priest at Obama's church.
I'm sorry but I don't see Obama as showing any real muscle in trying to win over Clinton supporters or even calm the storms still raging within the party.
(I know. I know. Today, Obama quickly gave his usual "rejection of the Paster" news brief to the cable shows). But, Obama's after-the-fact excuses just seem disingenuous and hollow anymore.
Posted by: prof marcia
| May 30, 2008 9:35 AM
Pasti: After watching that segment on CNN yesterday about Obama's first State Senate run and his determination to run unopposed by eliminating voters from the opposing candidate's petitions over technicalities, one must wonder: If he is running on the politics of Hope and Change, and that premise proves false, what does that do to his electability? He certainly can't run on experience. And I think the judgment thing is looking to be a perilous position with all of the questionable characters in his past.
Posted by: Ally
| May 30, 2008 9:36 AM
Brian, the root of the word hysteric has already been explained once.
Posted by: Patsi
| May 30, 2008 9:36 AM
I wouldn't get too lathered about the Murdoch stuff - it's from huffpo's comedy site - 23/6.
Posted by: pogo
| May 30, 2008 9:37 AM
Patsi apparently 9/11 missed it.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 30, 2008 9:39 AM
Bri-Bri Miss American Lie,
Oh. You certainly got it caught in the door on that one.
My ex-wife and I were laughing last night about something we share. We do that a lot.
We get along very well. As I do with all my former girlfriends.
And, of course, my daughter.
Hysteria IS gender-based. The word would not exist if it was not a condition that was exclusively associated with women.
Here is the 1913 Webster's definition of the word:
"A nervous affection, occurring almost exclusively in women, in which the emotional and reflex excitability is exaggerated, and the will power correspondingly diminished, so that the patient loses control over the emotions, becomes the victim of imaginary sensations, and often falls into paroxysm or fits."
That word is NEVER used by therapists or psychiatrists to diagnose anything.
Oh, yeah --
And pot is not a drug.
And narcissists NEVER admit they are wrong.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 9:40 AM
Prof marica,
I know you feel its nasty out there. Myself, I see a bunch of hurt people seeing ghost that for the most part are not there.
I think Obama wants you, but you also have free will. Time heals or not. Your choice. That is not nasty or mean or abusive. just the way it is.
Besides which, Me myself and I. I tried to talk about it and was met with serious slam....not about to go there again. I want to respect ya'lls wishes and I'm sure Obama has felt enough of it to keep back for a while.
So we have a catch 22 sitch for now.
Time for the shower!
Posted by: Chef Sheila Hussein The Nun
| May 30, 2008 9:41 AM
Just in case anyone missed it - the derivation of hysteric [al, etc.]
[From Latin hystericus, hysterical, from Greek husterikos, from huster, womb (from the former idea that disturbances in the womb caused hysteria).]
Not gender based? Really? I was just looking for my womb last night, and damn, I couldn't find it.
Posted by: pogo
| May 30, 2008 9:41 AM
Pogo: I have one you can borrow. I'm tired of hauling the damn thing around anyway.
Posted by: Ally
| May 30, 2008 9:42 AM
Now, who missed what?
Posted by: pogo
| May 30, 2008 9:42 AM
Bri-Bri,
I know you're no expert at reading comprehension but try this one, poopsie --
Those of you who think that hysteria and hysterectomy may be related are correct. One who is hysterical has the roots of one's behavior in one's womb, etymologically speaking. This seems to limit hysteria to people who have wombs: women! That is originally what the word hysteric referred to, "a neurotic condition in women" that was also known as "the vapours". It was thought to be rooted in disturbances in the womb, an idea that went all the way back to ancient Greece. Of course, we now know that that is not the case, and hysteric can apply to anyone. It entered English in the mid-17th century from French hysterique. The ultimate source is Greek hustera "womb".
The word hysteria was coined in the early 19th century as a noun form of hysteric. The Latin uterus is related.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 9:42 AM
And to honor you, Bri-Bri, I just submitted that neologism that's all you to Merriam-Webster's committee that considers new words for their future editions:
IgnorANUS.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 9:44 AM
Sheila
"From what I am hearing here in my little peace of Tacoma, there is a migration occuring toward Obama. So the jurry is out and the bottom line will be the General."
Half the state population could sit home and it would still be blue. There is not wa short of some totally explosive scandal or Mount Ranier wiping out the west coast (and maybe not then) that WA would go Republican. No change in the electoral map.
Posted by: Jamie
| May 30, 2008 9:44 AM
hys·ter·ic
Audio Help (hĭ-stěr'ĭk) Pronunciation Key
n.
1. A person suffering from hysteria.
2. hysterics (used with a sing. or pl. verb)
1. A fit of uncontrollable laughing or crying.
2. An attack of hysteria.
adj. Hysterical.
Well I'm off to walk the dogs and see a client, but don't worry 9/11 I'll be back in a few hours.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 30, 2008 9:44 AM
Brian,
Every time I read your "Tick Tock", I keep reading something else which expresses more of you than even you can --
Dick Docked!
I wonder why...
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 9:45 AM
Thanks, Ally, but from what I've seen in the perimenopausal women I know, love, and sypathize with, I'll pass. (It's hot in here, it's cold in here...)
Posted by: pogo
| May 30, 2008 9:46 AM
Good Morning!!
I have a new drinking game...
Every time Brian posts "tick tock", I take a big swallow of my "Kahlua-laced" coffee 8~D
Ohhhyeahhh!!
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| May 30, 2008 9:46 AM
Aw, Bri --
Why did you never tell us how many of your clients as a dealer of so many drugs you damaged?
Well, we know why, don't we?
You're always the victim, never the abuser or victimizer.
Dick Docked!
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 9:46 AM
New Yorkers really are provincial. The crane collapse is very sad, but hours of coverage? There is absolutely nothing of any importance happening anywhere else in the world?
Posted by: Jamie
| May 30, 2008 9:47 AM
What's happened to Joe Scarborough?
Posted by: ky marco
| May 30, 2008 9:49 AM
Pogo. FINE! I try to offer you something and you refuse. Jeez.
Posted by: Ally
| May 30, 2008 9:49 AM
9/11, RFLMAO
Posted by: pogo
| May 30, 2008 9:49 AM
Dick Docked!
I wonder why...
Repressed homosexuality on your part would be my guess. Later.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| May 30, 2008 9:49 AM
Brian , is being annoying this morning. Maybe I should take him to the psychologist with me at 11:00? I've already talked to my doctor about how big of an ass my Dad is. What would he think of Brian???
Posted by: Corey
| May 30, 2008 9:50 AM
Ally, how 'bout considering a trade - your womb for my prostate? We'll see who has trouble first. LOL
Posted by: pogo
| May 30, 2008 9:51 AM
Larry Sinclair interview from DC.
http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_L_Sinclair_052908.mp3
Posted by: GORDO | May 30, 2008 9:51 AM
Better Selection - TCM - Court Jester
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6OYGEoWKYk
Posted by: Jamie
| May 30, 2008 9:51 AM
Pogo: OK. Never mind. Forget I said anything.
Posted by: Ally
| May 30, 2008 9:52 AM
Nah, Bri-Bri.
However, I deeply envy your life of dogs, drugs and Depends as does all humanity.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 9:54 AM
Ally, I thought so. (Chuckling almost uncontrollably).
Posted by: pogo
| May 30, 2008 9:55 AM
But Jamie,
The trend is this tremendous voter registration going on in the background. They are here too and they don't care about the fact that washingto is blue.
There are a lot of Clinton people here. You don't think that after a period of time these people won't be paid the attention they deserve?
I'm going to be campaigning in a state that may be blue, but it didn't go overwhelmingly Obama. there is still a lot of locking hands to do.
Posted by: Chef Sheila Hussein The Nun
| May 30, 2008 9:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3SRIfn1XM4
Posted by: Corey
| May 30, 2008 9:55 AM
Not to worry about Brian. He is just continuing with his rabid terrier impression. yappity yap yap
Posted by: Jamie
| May 30, 2008 9:58 AM
pogo,
You know...
Brian is the first person in two decades who deeply challenges my belief in Susan Sontag's Anatomy of Illness thesis that a person's nature does not create diseases which afflict them.
However, Brian's excesses are so vivid that I can't help but wonder --
Is Brian a flaming asshole because of living with his Crohn's Disease?
Or did Brian's decades of living as a flaming asshole somatize itself into Crohn's Disease?
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 10:00 AM
jamie,
Let's not insult terriers. (Even the ones which are terrierists.)
Ever go to a zoo when they kept its monkeys in cages?
Ever watch what those poor monkeys do?
They hurled their crap at everyone passing by.
Welcome to his monkeyhouse.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 10:02 AM
Yeah Jamie...my Soft-Coated Wheaten Terriers are getting their feelings hurt with all of these terrier insults!
Posted by: Ally
| May 30, 2008 10:04 AM
Sheila,
The California migrants aren't going to vote for McCain. The Clinton people were badly bullied at the caucuses but they aren't going to vote for McCain.
Even the military is upset with Bush and they aren't wild about McCain either (May be some sitting on hands there).
That only leaves the far right proponents from the eastern side of the state and I think even they are pissed at Bush.
Posted by: Jamie
| May 30, 2008 10:05 AM
what about jackal or hyena?
Posted by: sturgeone | May 30, 2008 10:06 AM
sturgeone,
I'll go with Gollum for him.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 10:06 AM
Ally,
You've got Wheatens?????
Hooray for all of you!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 10:08 AM
9/11, that is quite the enigma to contemplate, indeed. Its circularity is dizzying.
Posted by: pogo
| May 30, 2008 10:08 AM
Ally,
I'm sure your terriers are neither rabid nor badly behaved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvUN98j1H8M&feature=related
Posted by: Jamie
| May 30, 2008 10:09 AM
LOL THanks for the dissertation on Washington State.
I care about all of the poeple who feel disenfranchised. So if you don't mind, I'll still be helping to register voters and talk to people. This has been a hard primary. Every little bit counts. Even in a blue state.
Posted by: Chef Sheila Hussein The Nun
| May 30, 2008 10:11 AM
9/11: Yes, I have two. Hubbell and Katie (and I know you will get the meaning of their names!)
Posted by: Ally
| May 30, 2008 10:11 AM
Jamie,
I used to sing the Court Jester's lullaby "I'll Take You Dreaming" as part of my nightly 60 to 90 minute bedtime concert for Miss Birdies.
Kaye was the greatest Jewish Irish tenor ever from Brooklyn. I often wish that he had gotten cast as the singing waiter dad in Kazan's excellent A Tree Grows In Brooklyn movie. People forget what an outstanding dramatic actor he was in Skokie, in Me and the Colonel and, particularly, in The Madwoman of Chaillot (for which he earned -- the word -- a Best Supporting Actor nomination).
What did people here sing to their kids when they were small?
(I just remembered at least two other Danny Kaye songs I'd sing to her at bedtime -- "Inchworm" and "The Red Pennies" lullaby. There were a lot more we'd sing together in the morning and the afternoon and all day long...)
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 10:12 AM
Jamie: I just played that for them and they could barely lift their heads off the floor to review. This is serious, serious nap time. BTW: They are not rabid but, they can be pretty naughty at times.
Posted by: Ally
| May 30, 2008 10:13 AM
pogo,
It's the local version of the chicken and the rotten egg.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 10:13 AM
Hey
Quote of the day:
""That was Chicago politics," said John Kass, a veteran Chicago Tribune columnist. "Knock out your opposition, challenge their petitions, destroy your enemy, right? It is how Barack Obama destroyed his enemies......................."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/29/obamas.first.campaign/index.html
Want the Chicago machine
to run the nation?
I don't think so!!!
Good news!!!
For the divided government movement.
Mississippi
Race for senate
Democrat ahead!!!
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_senate_elections/mississippi/mississippi_senate_musgrove_d_47_wicker_r_46
Lots of split tickets
Go Mississippi.
Friends don't let friends vote a split ticket
Vote for divided government
Vote McCain
Posted by: Pugnacious
| May 30, 2008 10:21 AM
Ally,
I just emailed the fellow who wrote the movie about your Wheatens. (The original for his Hubbell was Farley Granger. He was Katie. Hell, he is Katie more than even Streisand was. He's also 90, just directed the best Gypsy ever on Bway and announced that next year he will stage the best and only true production of West Side Story Broadway has ever seen.)
And I'll consider Hubbell and Katie another worthy tribute to Sydney Pollock's old fashioned goodness.
I love They Shoot Horses Don't They. I like his other films, too. But to me... he was among he best character actors of my lifetime. (So good his work in Eyes Wide Shut almost justifies the movie's existence.)
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 10:22 AM
Another crane collapsed in the neighborhood. So far one dead.
In April Bloomberg's Buildings Commish was forced to resign over a series of lethal construction disasters.
It would be better if that entire industry got taken apart and screwed back together without the mob and without bureaucratic corruption.
Third term, Mike, city charter or no city charter? Start there. This is your neighborhood, too -- both for your townhouse and for Gracie Mansion.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 10:26 AM
First there was When Good Animals Go Bad.
Then there was When Nature Goes Bad.
And now the NYT features When Columnists Turn Into Bloggers Responding To Each Other's Posts.
The horror. The horror.
http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/29/the-conversation/index.html?hp
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 10:28 AM
Will Clinton supporters come around to Obama if he
is the nominee?
As per Pew Research Poll released 5-29-08:
Clinton Backers cool to Obama-- White female support in question
Obama's image among white women declines
43% of white women have a positive opinion of Obama down from 56% in late February.
Among independent voters Obama's favorable ratings
have fallen to 49% from 62% in late February.
"Obama's slipping image is in some measure a negaitve reaction from frustrated Clinton's supporters."
Now, 46% of Clinton supporters say they will unite behind Obama, if he is nominee. In March, it was 58%.
McCain's personal image is also more negative since February as well---48% favorable; 45% negative now.
Late February it was 50% favorable v 39% negative.
McCain & Obama are now supported evenly among independents (44% to 44%)
McCain now leads Obama among white women (49% to 41%)
http://people-press.org/reports/print.php3?PageID=1315
Posted by: Coreen | May 30, 2008 10:29 AM
...Horses... What a wonderful movie.
Posted by: pogo
| May 30, 2008 10:29 AM
9/11: You just made me cry with your post. You have no idea the meaning this has to me. I saw The Way We Were at a drive-in when I was 4 years old. I have probably seen it 50 times since then (I can recite the entire movie from memory). It's my all-time favorite movie. And your news of West Side Story is amazing.
Sydney Pollack was such a loss. Out of Africa is another one of my favorites as well as They Shoot Horses Don't They. And that scene in Tootsie with Hoffman and the tomato discussion is classic.
I am a big, big movie buff and so is my best friend. Whenever we are on the phone (she lives in Washington), and we are describing someone new to each other, we always say, "Who would play her (or him)?" It's the only way to get a handle on the story!
I would love to send you a photo of Hubbell and Katie and thank you again for your kind words. I am flabbergasted.
Posted by: Ally
| May 30, 2008 10:31 AM
For my children rocking for bed got them this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqYmjTaQI4k
In English
Posted by: Jamie
| May 30, 2008 10:33 AM
Ally,
If you haven't, you might want to read his memoir "Original Story By". It's honest and ornery just like he is and always has been.
I've heard a ton of stories about the Bernstein/Laurents/Robbins collaboration over West Side Story -- an amazing mess and cauldron of rage and egos. It was very helpful that Sondheim came in to cover for Bernstein who was also the main lyricist. He also served as a balance to the longstanding resentments among the original creators.
How much was he valued? Bernstein gave Sondheim his FULL lyricist's share of royalties despite being the author of a third of the lyrics used in the show including just about all the pop hits.. ("Cool", "Tonight", "Maria", "One Hand, One Heart".)
He later regretted losing the money. But it made Sondheim a very wealthy young writer who could afford to stop being a lyricist for hire and develop as the best composer/lyricist of the last sixty years.
Probably the next sixty, too.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 10:39 AM
9/11: Ordering the book as we type!
Posted by: Ally
| May 30, 2008 10:41 AM
jamie,
I grew up with slightly different version of All Through The Night.
It was sung a cappella by The Cadet Glee Club of West Point. My dad had gone there after years of piloting landing craft during beach invasions in the Navy. Even though he (in true family fashion) cut kicked out for not following the rules, he remains deeply attached to the Point.
He'll understand me if I like the approach you favor more than the one those long ago Cadets took.
However, I'm stickin' to their Goodbye My Coney Island Baby.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 10:44 AM
Minty fresh in here.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 10:44 AM
Clinton Campaign Statement on Father Pfleger Comments
"The Clinton campaign's communications director, Howard Wolfson, clearly thinks Obama's rejection of Father Pfleger's sermon was lacking.
Wolfson says: "Divisive and hateful language like that is totally counterproductive in our efforts to bring our party together and have no place at the pulpit or in our politics. We are disappointed that Senator Obama didn't specifically reject Father's Pflegler's despicable comments about Senator Clinton, and assume he will do so."
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/clinton-campa-1.html
Posted by: GORDO | May 30, 2008 10:45 AM
My lullaby song was Carly Simon: Love of My Life:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyEpvPuSNVE
I still say to each of my boys every night, "From the moment I first saw you, from the second that you were born, I knew you were the love of my life."
Posted by: Ally
| May 30, 2008 10:47 AM
pogo,
I think one of the many reasons "Horses" never loses its power is the basic story.
It is a very basic story. Nothing is sentimentalized in it.
And that may be because the novel on which it was based was written by a man who wrote literally dozens of B movie scripts for living.
I found a copy of it at a library in Queens in the late 70's and read it on the spot.
It is the opposite of a studio story.
And the script is faithful to it in character, plotlines and dialogue.
One other thing I remember about it -- the author used the James L. Cain trick of really ragging all the copy to the right to make things feel more naturalistic than the writing may have achieved on its own.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 10:48 AM
Ally and Jamie,
Here's a download of the Tony voter's sampler from the unreleased cast album of Arthur Laurents' new Gypsy production starring Patti Lupone and Laura Benante.
http://www.mediafire.com/?rmltnnzyjkt
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 10:52 AM
"Goodbye My Coney Island Baby."
Oh we had a whole routine. All through the Night was the last for droopy eyelinds.
Then there was this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCHKw7tcOAs
Posted by: Jamie
| May 30, 2008 10:53 AM
Minty fresh in here.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of) | May 30, 2008 10:44 AM
....Why Thank You!
Posted by: Chef Sheila Hussein The Nun
| May 30, 2008 10:54 AM
Such a sweet, underrated remake of The Shop Around The Corner.
Others here included "Til There Was You", "When I'm 64", "Me And My Arrow", "Lida Rose", "Two Of Us", "Simon Smith and His Amazing Dancing Bear" and probably fifty more.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 10:57 AM
You always smell clean and fresh, Chef Sheila Who Should Lose Her Nun Status ASAP.
Why not?
You are.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 10:58 AM
9/11: I am downloading it right now. I adore Patti Lupone and am so happy for her. I would have loved to see it when we were in NYC for Elton John but obviously that was not possible!
Posted by: Ally
| May 30, 2008 10:59 AM
Everything's Coming Up Roses! Listening to it right now! Fabulous!
Posted by: Ally
| May 30, 2008 11:01 AM
Ally,
There is a terrific collaboration between Laurents and Lupone.
That production began as a semi-concert staging.
Lupone never jumps into roles with some idee fixe about who her character will be.
That's why she got treated so miserably by Lloyd Webber in Sunset Boulevard: she was not happy with doing a slightly dialed down version of Carol Burnett's Gloria Swanson.
Last summer Lupone's Mama Rose had a jarring Louise Brooks wig and an errant sense of why she was doing what she was doing.
Now... audiences completely understand a very complex and complicated mother.
One of the advantages of making it to ninety is both knowing you haven't all the time in the world... and to know that things still must happen only in the fullness of time if they are to reach a real fulfillment.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 11:04 AM
Minister Farrakhan Loves Father Pfleger
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0VNZvmespok
Posted by: GORDO | May 30, 2008 11:05 AM
"THe FL GOP runs the state and apparently the DNC."Posted by: jsruby8 | May 30, 2008 9:23 AM
So true! Amend DNC to FLDP.That's one of the reasons FL elections are always a bunch of crap and the rest of us have to smell it every four years.
We've had a Rep controlled congress here in WA over the years, but our State party has control of our Democratic elections. Another reason for caucuses. FL could of held a caucus back in January or last month. But they would rather put everyone in a lurch. It's a game they play for attention Problem is we (DP) are all the losers.
Posted by: Rezdog
| May 30, 2008 11:05 AM
Rez,
That makes more sense than just about everything else I've read about this crap.
And it also puts the rationale for so many Democratic caucases in GOP-run states into a brighter light.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 11:08 AM
9/11: Amazing, just amazing. Thank you for another wonderful story.
Just finished "Some People." Lovin' it.
How weird is it for someone like Laurents to realize that he is part of the vernacular? That people name their DOGS after his characters? It makes my brain hurt to comprehend it.
Posted by: Ally
| May 30, 2008 11:09 AM
Father Michael Pfleger defends Reverend Wright
http://youtube.com/watch?v=x1g_a53cyBk&feature=relateda
Posted by: GORDO | May 30, 2008 11:10 AM
Ally,
For a number of years we both were clients of the same outstanding agent.
Laurents has an absolute grasp on his affect on all sorts of popular culture.
Including a few things that haven't happened yet...
I think being pissed off can, for some temperaments and metabolisms, lead to a long and brilliant life.
But for most people it just leads to their staying very pissed.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 30, 2008 11:19 AM
I thought this Larry issue was put to rest, but I guess he's back.
Posted by: vadaryl
| May 30, 2008 11:27 AM
Ferraro On Phony Race Cards, Sexism and Fed-Up Women
"Geraldine Ferraro sure is in touch with how the insulted women of America feel and how little chance Barack Obama has of realizing his “confidence” in “bringing the party together”. She also has a realistic grasp of how sick and tired we are of seeing the Race Card played as a diversionary tactic."
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/30/ferraro-on-phony-race-cards-sexism-and-fed-up-women/
Posted by: GORDO | May 30, 2008 11:27 AM
Anybody listen to the interview. Who is doing the interview?
Posted by: vadaryl
| May 30, 2008 11:31 AM
LS to FBI in DC on FRI
Posted by: GORDO | May 30, 2008 11:31 AM
I hope