Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

you were great on cspan tonight craig.

Who's first?

Good job, nanny! Long time, no see....

thanks, nannymm. i love c-span callers.

It's so hard...to say goodbye...to Billary....

i guess i was harbor. but no joy in it tonight

Just can't bring yourself to admit can you Craig, Obama has won. I guess I'll just have to be satisfied with Russert's pronouncement.

Yes, Craig, you were great on C-span tonight. But ... are you really tired of us?

Yep...Hillary doesn't seem ready to face it, but I think her run is over.

i've been here, harbor. just don't post except once in a blue moon. . i hate all the conflict and don't want to get caught up in it.

Warren -- Shark-snarking sharks are exempt from mis-fired jokes. You're wise to keep your day job.

XXOO

brian, it has never been my practice to declare winners until they win 50% plus one of the votes needed for victory. i don't care who's running or what they're running for, you will always have to depend on others for that sort of satisfaction.

alicia, i think what i said was, i am tired of obama and clinton folks bashing each other. which is what i've said in here many times. the personal insults and unkind remarks are horrifingly unpleasant to read.

craig, does the reporting ,or lack thereof, from lake county seem odd to you?

Warren

Missouri was not big for Obama. He barely won here, and I have said all along that I do not believe he would have won if we had not had horrible tornados which traveled along the entire southern section of Missouri (Hillary country--borders ARK) during the hours of approx. 3:30-4:00 through the end of the polling period. Thousands of people just getting off work did not or could not vote because of the severe weather.

my hunch, nannymm, is that they don't have the votes to give obama the win, but they held the returns to make sure the morning papers cannot report a clinton win. but that's only a hunch.

yes, craig. that is exactly what you said and i applaud you for it. not only are the"personal insults and unkind remarks...horrifyingly unpleasant to read," they are a deterrent to some of us who might otherwise have something to contribute.

Missouri was a big victory for Obama regardless of the margin of victory, big Midwestern blue collar state.

Craig such a skeptic, LOL

I went to look at the Indiana Secretary of State's website -- found the training program for election officials. According to this, the Obama voter assistance table was not allowed.

http://mediaserver.ihets.org/vod/government/secstate/pollworker/chapter3.wmv

Yup.
This was a blow to me...... have to be quite honest.
But, it was not unexpected. The AA community led him to victory yet again....

But no fuzz.

We need to go to WV to do the blowout there next week and then the next blowout in KY...We need to blow those two out, and get the victory in Guam
Then need to seat FL and Mi.

it ain´t over yet......
Dont lose faith people. keep on truckin!

Here is the Indiana Election guidebook. The relevant information on who is and who i not allowed in polling places is found on page 7. Still doesn't look like the Obama "voter assistance" table is kosher.

http://www.in.gov/sos/elections/hava/pdf/EDH_08.pdf

Ok folks you can breath MSNBC just called Hillary the apparent winner in Indiana.

Okay, you keep thinking that. On to Canada and Mexico and Bolivia...

The vote counting in Lake County, IND, is getting a lot
of notice and I wander what is going to be made of it. There seems to be some animosity b etween sections of the county. Maybe not even worth commenting on, but it's right next store to Cook County

I HATE the way the DNC calls it proportionate allocation of delegates. It's just the big shots getting to tweak election counts.It should be one man one vote and it isn't. It's no better than winner take all, and maybe worse. That's why I'm an Independent - I have this thing about kowtowing to authority which has no real basis to be authority.

I agree that it has been a stressful experience here lately. I have been reading and not posting also because I haven't wanted to get into the middle of all the arguing and name calling. I love politics and always have coming from a political family. Craig has been my favorite pundit for years. I love to check in to see what he is thinking. But I hesitate to post anything because the venom is so potent.

Alicia,
Makes sense they should have been run off in that precinct. Who knows why they weren't. Surely this couldn't have happened in every precinct, guessing there are 1000s throughout the state. She won anyway.

Craig - Have you ever sat inside a polling place or BOE to count the votes as they come in? I have sat through many a late election night in those god-forsaken places enough to be skeptical about your premise that they held the votes to prevent the newspapers from reporting the votes. (Who reads papers these days anyway? Don't we ALL get our news online?)
Vote counting can be a maddening and messy process with many steps in a painstaking process, especially when county absentee and paper ballots, even more so when electronics snafus are factored in.

Jason, t
The AA community led Bill Clinton to victory in NC in 92 too. So what's the big deal.

Well I guess since the margin of victory doesn't matter Hillary just had a big win in Indiana. You know, big midwestern blue collar state.

Finally

We won Indiana..!!!!!!! MSM called it....
Now relax for one day and move on to Kentucky and West Virginia.
Dont know about Oregon
But Puerto Rico should be ours..

Come on gang.......We should be content. We defied the odds and came back form 165 down to win by 2% that is an 18% change.
We lost NC by 13% that means we made up 7%.....

Again we won a state that Barrack PROCLAIMED he would win!!!!!!

We WON!!!!!

Carry on and start donating! If we start getting depressed we cannot carry HRC to the white house

Her is my first $ 100 for the next primary
Let´s goooooooooooooooooooooooo

Who matches me....??

Save your money..:)

Oh
A news anchor here said it just now: "Again Barrack Obama was unable to seal the deal!"

Now only if MSM was able to report that in the US

Anywho,
Clinton is to meet with key Super Delegates today, and cancelling most appearances (just reported from a source)

ok, alicia, so mebbe i am too suspicious but other counties in indiana faced the same issues without such problems. perhaps i spent too much time watching katherine harris manipulate the release of voting returns in 2000

good night all, and come back in the morning when i'll have a little video treat for ya

true, jason if you still want to believe Hillary is still in this go for it. Hey no skin off my nose.

STICK A FORK IN HILLARY. SHE APPEARS DONE.

Why do I oppose Hillary? She has taken money by BIG PHARMA and BIG HEALTH INSURANCE.

OH and John McDeath military service appears the candied cherry atop the REPUBLIKLAN PArty TURD of death, deception, and lies. The cherry may look good but you don't want a Republiklan FDA, Labor Department, NASA, FEMA, MSHA and other agencies run by the Republiklan party that has either killed people or stole their money.

Take back America. go to http://democratz.org

Rez --- You don't need to put those kinds of things in EVERY precinct -- only CERTAIN precincts. But thank you anyway, for agreeing that they should have been run-off.

INDY sets the electioneering limit at 50 feet, in VA it's 40 feet. Usually my GOP counterpart will decide together where the line is. If it's raining or snowing and there's an awning the line is always under the awning. In 2003, 2004 and 2005 the weather was freakishly hot -- climbing into the 90s in Nov. I started packing sunscreen in my poll kits and the GOP guys and I decided that the 40 foot line was in the shade.

A big discussion now on the mayor of Gary....
Think I missed most of it in the night...What happened?

I hear fraud and him making a big fuzz over releasing information..... LOL. He seems stoned....LMPO

What is the difference now in popular vote?

What seems to puzzle me, is that Obama was expected to win NC by a big margin, and Indiana also.
He kept NC in double digits, but he lost Indiana..

So why are you let down? Come on......

LOL...
We won Indiana folks. That is how it is.
Now lets move on to the blow out we are expected to have in WV and KY

Jason,

I sent Hillary another $50 tonight.

At 8 a.m. I'm meeting another volunteer for sign holding during morning drive time.

Then to telephone at headquarters...

Excellent speech by Hillary tonight..

Better get to bed soon..lots of work to do Wednesday..

Obama scored a net gain of 14 delegates tonight. Hey OD, hows it hanging?

Good night Craig! We'll try to be good. I promise I will work on my aloha not be so hateful. Who knows, maybe some of us will one day become the McCain voters you seek to spice it up. (Not me, but maybe some others?)

I will be for whoever is the nominee. I actually would prefer Hillary because I admire her alot. Met her a couple of times when she was first lady of Ark. She is one of those people that if you were bouncing vibes off them they would be coming right back at you. Very solid person.
But I do not dislike Obama. I just get the feeling there is more than we know. Seems to have a pinky finger touching alot of "interesting" people. I just wonder if there is more out there that we should know about. I wish he had more experience, but that can be overcome with the right support. I just don't want to screw up the fall.

All right OD....

Sleep well. Am @ work allready.....
Send in my 100 greenbacks, so HRC can go on.

I just sent Billary $.25. That should make a dent in her $5 million dollar loan to herself.

Good Night Jason and all the other nice people!

Barack Obama has more experience than Abraham Lincoln when he ran for President. I hope that appears enough for you. If Hillary somehow gets the nomination. I will abstain from voting for President and vote for the other offices on the ballot.

IF Hillary wins, so does big pharma and big health insurance.

Take back America go to http://democratz.org

Bye Bye my gut says the Hillary campaign is about 20 million in debt by this time.

JASON! You come on in the middle of the night to shine your sunbeams on us. THANK YOU!

Oregon -- Bring it in for us, babay.

As Scarlett said, "Tomorrow is ano-thah daay!"

Ahuihou, y'all.

In NC and Indiana, they stood on flatbed trucks. For WV and Kentucky, they'll stand next to moonshine stills and whittle. A band will play the tune to Petitcoat Junction. In order to get votes, Hillary will tell the hillbillies that she's against "revenuers".

cool, Stephanie Miller is on.

Didn't we have a civil war under Abraham Lincoln? Slavery most definitely needed to be abolished but isn't it just possible that a more experienced president might have found a way to do it without splitting the country apart and killing hundreds of thousands of people?

In my opinion anyone who abstains from voting just because they didn't get their way on the nominee is not only a fairweather democrat, but they will get what they deserve in President John Mc Cain. That is a childish way of looking at things.

Uh, no.

Obama better hope that Hannity is wrong.

Obama won because of the racist vote. 90% of blacks voted for him.

One thing that this primary showed is that white has become tolerant and the black showed its ugly RACIAL head.

Gordo,
what do you mean?

Truebeliever,
I will NOT vote in the fall if he is the nominee. I have made it clear and it is due to several reasons. Not because I think he is not up to speed...
But mostly the side factors being:
1. The DNC
2. The DNC
3. The DNC

They have shown no leadership at all, and have never had a clear stand on the issues. They drove Clinton into the thick of things time and time again.

I will be an independent no matter what the outcome. More and more I feel let down by this party.
If you want to label me not a true demcorat it is okay. if it is childish, it is okay
I do believe that this party under this leadership sold the election to the republicans by not showng the decency to take responsiblity and showing courageous leadership!

Ok folks, get it all our of your system, we got a general win!

Jason
I agree that this whole thing was conducted in a sucky manner. The whole process was just stupid, from the DNC's rules, to the shafting that Hillary got on so many levels. But how are you going to feel if you stay home and we get a president Mc Cain ravaging our country and allowing our sons and daughters to die in a ridiculous war. I can't do that.

Things may not be how I wished them to be, but I am not going to take my ball and go home, and leave my hopes and my beliefs just hanging out there. I don't ever want to stop working for what I believe to be the common good. Then I would be just like all those partisan politicians in Washington who ask what is in it for them before they will vote on policy that will affect millons of people.

I want her to when too. More than I could probably explain to you, because it is personal to me. But, the sun will come up anyway even if she doesn't win. I wouldn't want it any other way.

Another point to keep in mind truebeliever, in terms of policy there is little that separates Obama and Clinton.

Obama hasn't wrapped it up and Hillary isn't quitting. Don't count your chickens before they hatch is what my mom always used to say.

Craig, I really enjoy you on Imus!

I do understand that there are alot of similarities between the two. But like I said it was a personal thing with me. It is part of the reason why I haven't posted much. It was on my sleeve. It is going to hurt if she doesn't get the nom. But that is just me. I am ultimately more concerned about beating the repugs in the fall. So many important things ride on that.

Something else that needs to said, I think we can all agree that by universal acclaim Hillary was at her very best since wining in PA. It was while campaigning at her very best that she suffered her fatal blow in North Carolina.

We have a nominee!

CNN's John King raked Gary's mayor over the coals and wouldn't let up. It was ugly. The mayor said the unprecedented 11,000 early votes to count overwhelmed the vote-counters, and they wanted to get it right.
King ridiculed the mayor and compared it to the speedy returns of Marion County (Indianapolis).
I know one thing...Gary and Hammond holding the release of the election past the closing of MSNBC's Tweety & Keith Show was upsetting to Keith, and Anderson Cooper said the CNN staff was gorging on the last crumbs of cornbread, all they had left to eat.
Before signing off, Tweety said the NW Indiana returns were 'history in the making' and a bunch of other mushy stuff....I think he thought Obama was going to overtake HRC.
Hillary vowed to go to Kentucky and West Virginia and other states...she ain't quitting , but now the only hope , I believe, is a real scary skeleton to emerge from Obama's closet.
Still...after the Harris/Florida debacle in 2000 and the Ken Blackwell fiasco in Ohio in 2004, I know how US politics is much more than what John Q. Public conceives it to be in his mind.
Still, Obama must be singing,
"Nuthin' but blue skies
From now on."

Exit Polls: Limbaugh Effect Seems To Rear Its Head
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/06/exit-polls-limbaugh-effec_n_100488.html

David Axelrod, the top Obama strategist, told reporters that Barack Obama would compete for the six remaining Democratic contests, where 217 delegates are at stake. But he said that the campaign would soon focus on the general election because likely Republican nominee John McCain had “basically run free for some time now because we’ve been consumed with this." He added: “I don’t think we’re going to spend time solely in primary states.”

Pressed by reporters whether that meant the campaign would make stops in general election states over the next month, Axelrod said: “You could infer that from what I said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/06/north-carolina-indiana-pr_n_100400.html

Jason, I'll contribute again because I truly believe we are headed into MGovern territory. Congrats to the Obama crowd. And good luck to you in the general.

They better find an old yeller dog to put on the ballot because he is who I am voting for. Not McCan and not BO. Never BO.. just cannot make myself do it. Yes I was a loyal democrat and my family has voted democrat every election since 1800's as far back as I can find info. Going Independent. Have had enough if BO get nomination.

Julie

Watching Obama last night, this works for me - SNOBama.

Good article - somewhat long, last 3 or 4 paragraphs are the story.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/random_events.html

Julie

..it's not a mater of not voting for someone because you didn't get you way. I don't think anyone really knows where BHO is on real issues. It's all just "change,chane,change", what exactly does he expect to change?
He may look like he has weathered the Wright storm for now to some, but to me it has shown how really weak he is. Between the stamering and stuttering he hasen't even given a definite answer there.
it's a problem

I keep hearing stories from AA that say are being pressured to vote for BHO, is this true? if so why isn't it a bigger story? It certainly would be if it were the other way around!
Maybe politics should be blind. BHO is half white half Kenyan, to me he is just an American. My paternal grandmother was black, my maternal grandmother was crow indian, I am an American.

Once again, I am hearing how wonderful O's speech was last night. It didn't sound sincere to me. It had all the right words but something was missing. He will be problem candidate for the democrats.

Obama -- Never.

African Americans voted for Obama for no other reason than he was black, does that make them racist? I think it says that racism is just as prevalent in the black community as the white community.