Mike Huckabee beat heavy-duty competition to reach the last round in VP Madness (GOP Edition) against Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
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Secretary of State Condi Rice, South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford and Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty all fell away in earlier pairings against Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor and unsuccessful 2008 presidential candidate.
Palin beat Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and former Bush Budget Director Rob Portman.
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Comments
Brought my post over from the last thread, because I'm hoping to get an opinion or answer from someone. So reposting here:
How each party picks it's members is a "private" matter in the eyes of the law.
And is "The Party" interested in the will of the people"
Or is that just an act.
What's wrong with Change.
Isn't that what every body wants? Change.
What's wrong with simplicity?
One vote, one person.
If the process is performed to find out who has the best chance to win in the General, why is it weighted toward the party to make the decision.
Why can't we have a simple, fair vote, and then if "the party" wants to, they're entitled to ignore the results and do what they planned to do in the first place. Hell, they can just choose someone and save a lot of time and money (not to mention heart ache and confustion).
At least we'll all be aware of what they're doing.
It's all an illusion anyway.
Maybe simple and illusion don't go together.
Posted by: Meg
| May 21, 2008 5:07 PM
Maggi, brought your's over because it's informative and someone may get as much out of it as I did.
Republican party as fractured as Democratic party
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/05/obama-begins-to-end-dem-race.html#comment-86548
Posted by: Meg
| May 21, 2008 5:11 PM
So what it all will come down to is, do we want a woman or a man.
Posted by: Meg
| May 21, 2008 5:12 PM
Meg- Thanks. Took me a while to get here and I didn't think to copy my own post.
Governor of Alaska? Have no real idea who she is ... will have to look her up.
Since both Alaska and Arkansas are likely solidly Republican and bring nothing to the ticket, I wonder ... I'm still thinking Romney (both men are strong in Michigan) ... I think choosing a woman, especially such an unknown woman, would look a little like pandering...but who can say.
Posted by: maggisd
| May 21, 2008 5:18 PM
It's really time for me to stand up and do my stretching. Talk to you all again soon.
Posted by: maggisd
| May 21, 2008 5:20 PM
Here is Pelosi's brilliant energt strategy. No tin foil needed
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/05/halleluiah-house-dems-solve-oil-crisis.html
Posted by: Maxtrue | May 21, 2008 5:22 PM
Dexter,
I love both DKG and her work.
I have a sentimental nerve in my heart for her writing about her family and growing up loving the Dodgers.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 21, 2008 5:31 PM
I like vidal's historical fiction......he seems to know all the ins and outs of it and writes beautifully..........
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 5:34 PM
"I like our Caucus system here in WA."
An I HATE it. Undemocratic, exclusionary, tilted toward insiders, and open to intimidation and collusion. Compared to one person one secret ballot it is painfully and totally undemocratic.
Posted by: Jamie
| May 21, 2008 5:40 PM
oh....and that loose cannon episode in kenneth roberts.....I moved while back to a smaller place and most of my books are still in boxes......couldnt find it on line and cant remember which book it's in......so you'll just have to read 'em all......
but really, ya cant go wrong with NORTHWEST PASSAGE, RABBLE IN ARMS, or OLIVER WISWELL.......great stuff, to which 9/11 will attest........
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 5:42 PM
sturge,
Constantine... big event in my life reading that at 11 (and not just from the book's size).
If you ever read that... you might want to try what Ibsen felt for awhile was his masterpiece, "Emperor and Galilean" which centers on Constantine's father, Constantius.
(It's really not his masterpiece: it comes between the last great works of his poetic drama period, the twinned Brand and Peer Gynt and his phenomenal prose dramas which started the 20th century ahead of schedule.)
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 21, 2008 5:43 PM
Mike "Opie wan Kenobe" huckabee will guide Barack "Skywalker" Obama thru the rough spots, wot?
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 5:45 PM
Of course, I got it wrong.
I have Constantine on the mind these days.
It's Julian.
And Ibsen balances his play into two five act parts, each emphasizing Constantine or Julian.
Neurotoxicity is my hometown.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 21, 2008 5:47 PM
will find the ibsen.....looks like it's right up my allez..........
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 5:48 PM
Hey
Not Huckabee
1. Huckababy shot himself in the foot
at the NRA convention
(hehe get it , shot -foot , hehe NRA)
2. Most important, McCain doesn't need him.
The base is secure!!
Not anyone from Alaska
polar bears don't vote
Besides they're mostly dead.
Romney?
No, he reminds the base of what they don't like about McCain.
They can't stand 2 of them.
Is there any Ohio politician that is not in jail
Or maybe out in time to run??
McCain needs some one who can bring him a swing state.
Find a young hunk in a swing state
put him on the ticket.
Where is Dan Quail when you need him.
Friends don't let friends vote a straight ticket
Vote for divided government
Vote McCain
Posted by: Pugnacious
| May 21, 2008 5:49 PM
Julian.......the last best chance to stop those pesky christians........
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 5:50 PM
My friends Jenny Hontz and Victor Chi started a blog for foodies. Knowing the Jenny also enjoys politics I sent her the cocktail recipes I invented for the Democratic primaries -- the Obama Bomb and the Clinton Cocktail that I first posted here over the weekend. Jenny asked me what inspired them so I wrote a note about what I was conjuring as I concocted the libations. Then Jenny asked me if I invented one for McCain. Hmmm... after some thought I came up with the recipe below. You can read about the rest of them on their Grubtrotters blog: http://grubtrotters.com/2008/05/21/lift-your-spirits-to-the-white-house/
McCain Straight Shooter
1 part Parton Reposada
1 part Kahlua
1 part Barcardi 151
Layer liquors in order in a shot glass, floating the Bacardi 151 on top. Light the 151. Drink while flaming, if you dare. Walnuts would!
This flaming shooter is an homage to the jet jocks (Naval aviators) like McCain who fly tough, talk tough and drink tough. The rum because it's a Navy drink. The tequila and Kahlua from the Mexico, which shares a border with McCain's state of Arizona. A strong drink that doesn't mess around in the process of messing you up. A variation on the F***ked Up Motherf***er, which is 151 and Jaegermeister, flamed. I just don't like the taste of Jaeg.
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| May 21, 2008 5:50 PM
sturge,
Try Ibsen's The Pretenders, too.
If my memory (you know -- the big hole with nothing in it) is right, the exchange between a politician -- a young king (or not a king) -- and a cynic about the king's loneliness and hunger for a real friend is in that one.
You know how the thing ends --
"Then get a dog."
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 21, 2008 5:51 PM
Julian.......the last best chance to stop those pesky christians........
Posted by: sturgeone
And I thought that was Dennis Kucinich.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 21, 2008 5:52 PM
ha.....googled pretenders and wound up with a rock group and chrissie hynde......but I found it......looks good.....another which might pass thru my little alley oop.................
grazie.......
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 6:04 PM
I think, Mike Huckabee.
We don't want to lose the right wing of the Republikan party, they're so funny..........
Posted by: politicallypissed
| May 21, 2008 6:06 PM
was driving off kiawah island today and saw a sticker on the back of a car which read "gobacktoohio.com"
SC humor section, dept of still playing on the not-so-civil war.....................
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 6:10 PM
or as they sometimes refer to it here: "the late unpleasantness"
when they're not calling it the "War of Northern Aggression" and putting on youny-forums and re-enacting the battles they lost.......
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 6:12 PM
Nick,
Silly me.
I thought living comfortably meant being able to live with yourself.
Amazing what a pair of super genius lawyers can't do to help a sick woman.
By the way -- the Obama Wikipedia page makes a great deal out of his search for his father --
But nothing of his losing his mother.
The sole mention of her is a reference to her having whelped him.
Seriously -- I wonder why.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 21, 2008 6:13 PM
Hillary: The Al Gore of 2008
Winner of the popular vote, loser of the election.
"But contests in which the winner of the most votes doesn’t get the prize produce lasting after-effects, and in the months ahead, Democrats may be in for more than they know."
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MjQ4NjU0OGYyMmZkYWNlMTgyYzQxZmRjOGJiNDg2ZDc
Posted by: Meg
| May 21, 2008 6:21 PM
strurge,
Now I get to mention The Killer Angels... which is fine to read and possibly better to hear read aloud by the very gifted southern actor George Hearn.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 21, 2008 6:23 PM
"Before we begin to discuss yesterday’s results in Oregon and Kentucky, let’s start with a bit of recent information that every voter should know: Obama DID NOT attract 75,000 “fans” to a rally in Portland, Oregon, by the supposed “power of his charisma”. Interestingly enough, his speech was preceded (and followed) by a free concert, given by the band The Decemberists, local legends in their own right. Curiously, the Media failed to mention this important detail when reporting about the event, thus giving the impression that Obama had somehow drawn hundreds of bearded ‘latte drinkers’ on his own, without any other motivation apart from his “impressive popularity”. This may seem to some as inconsequential, but the mere fact that the Press was so willing ..."
http://savagepolitics.com/
Posted by: GORDO | May 21, 2008 6:27 PM
Nick, 9/11...on the subject of "destitute-but-picaresque moms of big celebrities."
The same theme provided one of the central contradictions about Rick Bragg's much-hyped and overrated book "All Over But The Shoutin'" (another memoir by a man who'd humbly decided his life story was so fascinating it deserved a book even though he'd barely lived half a life. But I digress.)
Anyway, Bragg is a country boy from Alabama...see...and he gets a job with the fancy New York Times and lots of hijinks ensue when Jethro learns he can write like a dream and whup any man's sissy-ass in the Harvard dining room (and lots of other crapola like that). But the best part is when he talks about how he flew his dear ol' mama from rural Alabama up to New York to be with him at the ceremony when he got the Pulitzer Prize. It was not only her first time on an airplane...Bragg says...it was her first time she experienced riding up an escalator...and her first time shopping for a new dress...and she had to get her teeth fixed just for the big event...all that heartrending stuff.
But then the reader starts wondering: Hmmm. Rickie boy by this point had had good-paying jobs in journalism for at least 15 years or so, at various papers. So why did it take the Pulitzer ceremony for him to finally take his mom on a trip, or maybe even to a shopping mall in Huntsville (where I bet they have escalators) to buy a new dress.
Beware the man who poormouths his mom to aggrandize himself. Chances are, he's a big phony.
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| May 21, 2008 6:29 PM
The Decemberists!
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 21, 2008 6:30 PM
"In 2000, the fact that the Democratic candidate won the popular vote but lost the election caused great anger and bitterness among some Democrats. Those feelings lasted quite a while; there were a lot of “Re-Defeat Bush” stickers on cars in 2004. But in 2008, the prospect that a Democratic candidate might win the popular vote but lose the nomination does not seem as troubling. Party leaders and their allies in the press are not only not angry and bitter, they don’t even seem unhappy that the primary season might produce a nominee who lost the popular vote."
Thanks for linking to that article, Meg.
I'm considering having a bumper sticker made up that reads:
HILLARY: Mugged on the way to the White House
Posted by: Patsi
| May 21, 2008 6:37 PM
Alicia,
FYI, it's a crime in many states to mix Patron Reposado with anything other than Cointreau and fresh lime juice.
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/05/huckabee-vs-palin-in-vp-madnes.html#comment-86579
Posted by: frank | May 21, 2008 6:45 PM
NIck. It's funny.
One thing that becomes more clear the older I get is that telling the truth is one of the hardest and most unnatural things for human beings to do. That doesn't mean most people are malicious liars. It just means that "the truth" (the real truth) is often too boring, or too inconvenient or too personally embarrassing even for the best people. So they embellish, they cover up, they omit -- and the result is that they create "a story." Which is really all their audience wants to hear, anyway. A good story. So I guess it all works out in the end.
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| May 21, 2008 6:46 PM
patsi my pal,
Joy Behar was quoted by Staley in the NYT today:
“No matter how this primary ends,” he said, “Senator Clinton has shattered myths and broken barriers and changed the America in which my daughters and yours will come of age.”
That serenity is not yet shared by women who identify with Mrs. Clinton. Whoopi Goldberg asked her co-hosts on “The View” how they would describe Mrs. Clinton’s historic battle for the Democratic nomination.
“A man took it away from a woman,” Joy Behar replied. “Then they yelled at her for complaining about it.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/21/us/politics/21watch.html?ref=us
Patsi, it's too bad that can't fit on a bumpersticker.
However, it fits well on a page of history.
All hail Obama...
As Obama shall fail all.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 21, 2008 6:47 PM
nick.......just one of my favorite languages.....
the shaara looks good......I usually just re-read Bruce Catton for my civil war fix, but i think that one will work in nicely.......
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 6:51 PM
"it's too bad that can't fit on a bumpersticker. "
True....
Posted by: Patsi
| May 21, 2008 6:51 PM
9/11...actually, that basic sentiment can and already has been reduced to bumper sticker scale.
You see it embroidered on the backs of leather motorcycle jackets, or sometimes even the backs of helmets, of gruff-looking guys riding solo on Harleys. It reads.
"THE BITCH FELL OFF"
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| May 21, 2008 6:51 PM
lanny davis quoted joy behar also (albeit without crediting her) about the "Iron my shirts" and "shine my shoes" situation.......
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 6:53 PM
Lardass,
As always you hit the mark...
And the mark disintegrates.
Bragg was another one of Pinch Sulzberger's dollfaces... along with Blair and Rich... all of whom violated all sorts of inhouse and journalistic ethical standards and all of whom Pinch refused to reprimand until they damaged the paper's reputation.
But that's our rapidly aging boy Pinch.
About whom a whole new bunch of rumors -- value unknown -- started to spin in NYC around six months ago.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 21, 2008 6:53 PM
The more I think about it, "THE BITCH FELL OFF" is the perfect theme for this summer's Democratic Convention.
Somebody ring up Howard Dean. Quick.
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| May 21, 2008 6:57 PM
aha......msnbc gives bigger air time to rachael maddow........why would that be, you reckon..........ah.....so she can pump up obama from the left so it wont be just Keith Overbite .......and thus msnbc "evolves"................General Electric strikes again.
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 6:59 PM
Lardass,
When I was first getting started the singer and actress Helen Schneider took a most helpful interest in me.
She told me the story of how when she was around 17 and singing at Trude Heller's in the West Village she developed a following the Second Avenue Hell's Angels membership: they'd ride up the steps from the street and into the club to see here.
A few months into that they invited her to be their "guest of honor" at their northeast convention.
She was innocent and had no idea what they'd do to the "guest of honor" who was always a girl or woman once she had performed.
"The Bitch" in question would have been lucky to have just fallen off.
Fortunately Helly was told the plain truth by people who knew the group a lot better than she did -- or would have.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 21, 2008 7:00 PM
Don't believe me? Just Google the phrase, or click here:
http://www.foulmouthshirts.com/Biker-t-shirts/shirtpages/If-You-Can-Read-This-The-Bitch-Fell-Off-T-shirt-Biker-T-shirts.htm
I guess I did leave out the opening dependent clause.
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| May 21, 2008 7:03 PM
Damn, I brought up alot about his mother a while back. And I got slammed for what seemed like reasonable accounts of Dunham’s life. I checked and have found little to refute an earlier post. Didn't Obama call her the most important influence? And yet the strange end. Perhaps Michelle loathed her? Who knows? My take is that she really hated living in America and well, maybe Obama was pissed about the life she had wrought bespte the positive and negative imprints. Not that I mean self-loathing.
It is apparent she did not like dating white men and the record does show her strong interest in Anarchy Alley in high school and things Marxist. She wanted to go to Chicago and Obama did just that. So I see a certain thread of this in Obama and yet perhaps a deep-seated distain for the maternal influence. He got dumped by both parents. No, I can't fathom the story. Perhaps Obama was an accident she had with her University's first Black student. Was abortion not an option? And I note Obama's recent comment on abortion which seemed callous and perhaps revealing. It appears Dunham would not let a child or two prevent her travels or her connection with not-America.
What I get a sense is a conflict and a search for identity, but please forgive the analysis. I do not mean to sound anything expert or that my own history is without tensions or conflicts. Please note I did not say anything nasty about Obama. I am just trying to reconcile the oddity of what Obama was drawn to, the contradictions and the inclinations. And I am trying to square that with his observable behavior and impressions others have had of him in small groups. I do sense that we do not know Barak and there is a strange multi-layer we get, not present in Reagan or even Nixon and Clinton. Nor Dwight. These were consistent it seems in personality. You looked at Nixon an just knew what he said to friends. Same with LBJ, though he seemed for such a powerful guy, to be fearful of many things. And there are moments and acts by Obama that stick out and stand in contrast to the image he tries to hone. Like a smart coat with a thread that could unravel. A coat worn in all weather, more to cover than to keep warm.
Just some impressions. I do see a conscious effort to carefully craft his autobiography to project an image to run on, to somehow give structure to perhaps an uncertain baring and unresolved emotion. Complex, careful, not so happy underneath, a bit preacher and rebel, idealist and victim. It seems to radiate from beneath a level of conscious control and his comfort zone of speaking, leading and being on stage directing, even if the audience is as unsettling to him as it is in reaffirming the next mission at hand.
There is something however that unmasks the pretense of centricity: there is nothing suggested the the change Obama will wrought that is not some kind of mandate. There is something essential in his character that sees the centrality of conformity to an ideological paradigm imposed by government that runs counter to his claim to return us to Constitutional law. I find this a bit unsettling coming from a Constitutional lawyer who despite his denials, wrote a memo next to the Yes, his alleged staffer had written for the question, “do you support a total gun ban”. Why do I think his leaning is a rather authoritarian view of government, even it such authority would promulgate very Liberal thinking? Perhaps there exists something here that lies at the heart of “his wasted youth” and the relationship he had with his mother. I know my own relationship drove me to escape as much authority as possible….LOL and such reaction has not always been positive.
Posted by: Maxtrue | May 21, 2008 7:04 PM
If I were an obama supporter, I'd have to sit down and wonder why a television station owned by General Electric, which heretofore had been filled with right wing ideologues except for a very late to develop KO (and which network Fired Phil Donahue when he had the highest rated show on there) ---yes......why all of a sudden are they all in the tank for mr obama to the exclusion of and trampling upon of truth.....eh?
the narrative............the harrowing narrative.......the mccain must win......obama better watch out for msnbc.....theyre wicked.
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 7:05 PM
sturgeone --------------------
The "LBs"
Posted by: GORDO | May 21, 2008 7:08 PM
Everyone has been so articulate in stating their feelings and their anger and frustration at the barricades that have been placed in front of Mrs Clinton at every step of her campaign.
And, Jamie's comments about the absurdity of the caucus system were solidly on mark and proved by the Texas Obama overall victory despite her having won the state's popular vote.
I hope to goodness Mrs Clinton does take this farce to the convention floor--if nothing else for the sake of our country's girls who need a modern Joan of Arc to emulate.
Get over it my butt.
Posted by: Flatus
| May 21, 2008 7:08 PM
Gordo.......what's a LB?
Posted by: STURGO | May 21, 2008 7:10 PM
max,
The short version for me is that anyone who enters the world with an endless string of narrative as a substitute for identity is someone to smile and nod at and then move along, move along, move along.
Too many stories...
Too little interest in truth beyond "personal myths".
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 21, 2008 7:10 PM
STURGO --------------------
Clue: Source:
"What's My Line" + "The Situation Room"
Posted by: GORDO | May 21, 2008 7:20 PM
gordo......youre just going to have to tell me, I'm much too old for clues and parlour games ......................
so bill o'reilly is a duncecap.....yep.....but it could really get interesting if he goes after Jeffrey Immelt and general electric like he says he's going to........
Posted by: STURGO | May 21, 2008 7:24 PM
besides.......the wild turkey's kicking in.................
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 7:26 PM
Well said, but I am trying to be polite and not so presumptuous to know another's psyche.
I concur. And look at all the threads added by Frank and others. It gives rise to what Gordo might call the propensity to be a Manchurain candidate, compounde by each new thread, the searching for that story to fill the void. The hope to change it, to free oneself of the unsettled past. The imprint to spawn up the river in Chicago, yet make the serach for identity a campaign based on identity, propelled by a history of identifications.
Somehowhow I find the irony both dangerous and a bit sad. You see we can't move along, move along.
Personal myth has become a national one pitted against a man with quite a singular history and identity. A story that will now be now be recast in a new narrative, by story tellers we don't get to elect.
Posted by: Maxtrue | May 21, 2008 7:26 PM
Sturgo
L:B= leadbellyo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLOualK5GP0
Jacko
Posted by: whskyjack | May 21, 2008 7:28 PM
ha ha ha .......dylan stole "house of the rising sun" from van ronk and then the animals stolt both their thunders......Leadbelly rises eerily from the grave...................
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 7:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULxxBz-PAjg
Enjoy. From last October 2007
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| May 21, 2008 7:34 PM
sturge,
Oh man.
I used to go hear Van Ronk at other places in the WV.
After awhile... as everyone would sit and drink with him... I'd beg people... "Please.... DON'T MENTION DYLAN!!!!!"
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 21, 2008 7:35 PM
some Lightnin' back atcha.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVF-0JKLnd4
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 7:35 PM
Im gonna keep on travelin' till I find someplace to go.
--Lightnin' Hopkins
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 7:40 PM
STURGO ---------------------
I must be cryptic (that fact is a clue) - this might be enough.
Clue: Source:
Jon Stewart + Lon Chaney, Jr
Posted by: GORDO | May 21, 2008 7:41 PM
you know.......rubber on wheel.....faster than rubber on heel.
---Lightnin' Hopkins
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 7:41 PM
"Im gonna keep on travelin' till I find someplace to go.
--Lightnin' Hopkins"
Great quote, Sturge....here's another:
"It's not getting any smarter out there." Frank Zappa
Posted by: Patsi
| May 21, 2008 7:45 PM
A post from TPM on the subject of Obama's mother and the status of her insurance:
Barack Obama's Mother Ad
By Billy Glad - February 19, 2008, 11:08AM
This is probably not a big deal and easy to clear up.
I'm troubled by Barack Obama's health insurance commercial that's running in Texas. In the commercial, he tells us his dying mother was more worried about paying her medical bills than getting well.
At the time his mother died of cancer, Senator Obama was 34, a magna cum laude graduate of Harvard Law, working as an associate attorney at a Chicago law firm and teaching Constitutional Law. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I really doubt he let his mother worry about paying her medical bills while she was dying.
It's one thing to borrow a phrase or two from other politicians, but it's a whole other deal to make up things about your mom. I'm not convinced Senator Obama did that, but there is something a little too slick about that commercial. Something a little too vague.
I've heard his mom actually had health insurance, although that's not the message conveyed by the ad. I don't know if that's true or not. It could be a lie. Senator Obama seems very sincere in the commercial, and a lot of lies circulate on the web. But if she had health insurance, and the ad is aimed at people who don't have it, that's misleading.
Maybe the real situation was just too complex to convey in a political ad. Cancer can be financially devastating, even for the insured. After you've been diagnosed with cancer, you can't get health insurance. Insurance companies deny claims and treatment. Sometimes our parents just don't want our help. They don't want to be a burden. Maybe Senator Obama should just lay out a few more facts.
I feel pretty uncomfortable even asking about Senator Obama's mother, even though he was the one who brought her up in the first place, but he never actually says she didn't have health insurance. He just implies it.
By way of full disclosure, I'm from Texas. My mother is 92, has health insurance and three grown kids who would hock everything they own to keep her from worrying about medical bills. I don't support either candidate. I used to support Senator Clinton, but I don't like the way she backed off from NBC.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 21, 2008 7:45 PM
I thought Gov Palin would be an attractive choice for the Republicans. I may have to reconsider since I found out she hates Polar Bears and doesn't care if they die out.
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/news.php?id=1163
Posted by: Lynn C | May 21, 2008 7:47 PM
9 .......did you ever go hear that pianist at the Surf Club?
that gentleman was one of the coolest grooviest kookiest........................I'd say long about ' 77 or so when I spent the summer listening to him...............
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 7:47 PM
"We're all bozos on this bus."
---Firesign Theatre
sums it up very nicely for me.
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 7:49 PM
sturge,
"You ain't got no friends on the Left (You're Right!). You ain't got no friends on the Right (You're Left!). Hound dog (One two) Poontang (Tree Frog) Hound dog, poontang, coontown (I'se white!)."
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 21, 2008 7:54 PM
If the Republicans can make Sarah Palin, their new face it could go a long way to restoring their "brand."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin
"There are a number of pretty popular governors across the country that have ratings in the high 60s and the 70s, which in this political environment is really pretty impressive. But to have numbers in the 80s is rather stunning." Jennifer Duffy of the Washington, D.C.-based Cook Political Report, commenting on a poll taken on May 16, 2008."
Posted by: Dave's Not Here | May 21, 2008 7:55 PM
9/11 They don't think people are going to think about those ads in the ways you do. He wants the working class to think he's one of them, that he's had the same sort of problems they've had. They don't think we'll go beyond their little story, whatever it was built on. I don't think there are any questions off limits though when someone is running for the nations highest office. And he is the one, like you said, that opened it to discussion.
People are curious about many things about him, but there's so many that aren't asked.
What part of Texas are you in-we're northwest of Houston.
Posted by: Meg
| May 21, 2008 7:56 PM
Palin supporters are Freeping the CQ vp sweepstakes
VP Madness: PALIN IN FINAL ROUND!!!
Gov. Palin is now just one victory away from WINNING CQ Politics' "VP Madness"! She beat out Rob Portman in the Final Four by a vote of 56%-43%, advancing to a final confrontation with Mike Huckabee.
I'm very confident in the chances of a Palin victory, but the presidential primaries proved that underestimating Mike Huckabee is a huge mistake. So, let's make sure that we give our favorite governor as much help as we possibly can.
PLEASE let as many people as you can know about this poll. Post it on your blog, email your friends, write a note on your Facebook profile, anything to help push Gov. Palin over the top. Win or lose, VP Madness has been a major victory for our movement, but a win here could permanently catapult Sarah Palin into the top tier of the top tier of the veepstakes (at least as far as the media is concerned).
http://palinforvp.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Dave's still not here | May 21, 2008 7:58 PM
We're all bozos on this bus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8WOKsdHuc4
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 8:03 PM
Lynn and Dave,
Sarah Palin does look like an attractive candidate. She would really freshen up McCain's ticket. Huckabee has too many boundaries. He's a great personality.....but? Think I'll go to your link and read up on Palin.
Posted by: Meg
| May 21, 2008 8:04 PM
Sturgeone
"msnbc gives bigger air time to rachael maddow"
They also fail to mention that the Air America and Liberal host syndicated stations are non stop Obama commercials. Stephanie Miller, Ed Schultz, Rachel Maddow, and Randi Rhodes. At least Rhodes had to depart for the f****** Whore remark.
Posted by: Jamie
| May 21, 2008 8:05 PM
Gordo is so cute when he starts talking in code. Did anyone ever figure out where the last batch of conspiracy was to be found?
Posted by: Jamie
| May 21, 2008 8:07 PM
They also fail to mention that the Air America and Liberal host syndicated stations are non stop Obama commercials.
I had to give up Air America when I gave up MSNBC. Now I'm a closet right wing radio station listener. It's the only place I could get any fair coverage of Hillary at the time. Like Fox, they were amazed how Hillary was being destroyed by her own party, so spent their time tearing apart her opponent.
Posted by: Meg
| May 21, 2008 8:10 PM
I usually can't stand Laura Ingrahm, but I was just flipping channels around and heard her smackdown Dick Morris, then tell him to "chill out."
And right before that, on CNN Carol Swain, a black prof at Vandy, said the media had handed Obama the nomination a long time ago and "women are not going to forget it."
Back to Law & Order.
Posted by: Patsi
| May 21, 2008 8:11 PM
I voted for Palin, but it was 27% her to 72% Huckabee
I usually can't stand Laura Ingrahm, but I was just flipping channels around and heard her smackdown Dick Morris, then tell him to "chill out." Patsi
You find nice things in the most unexpected places. I actually like Laura Ingrahm now (usually). Wish I caught that professor setting them straight.
Posted by: Meg
| May 21, 2008 8:16 PM
Jamie,
Did you come across ol' Puffy LePew's celebration of Richard Leftwing Milhouse and your SSI?
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 21, 2008 8:16 PM
Bozos on the bus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT9V1TplMf0
Posted by: Jamie
| May 21, 2008 8:20 PM
Meg,
Is there any association (or implication of association) between The Ted Stevens Family Scandal and Governor Palin?
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 21, 2008 8:23 PM
9/11
They grabbed the check and are dining in Paris on all that wealth
http://usversusthem.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/pepe-le-pew.jpg
Posted by: Jamie
| May 21, 2008 8:24 PM
9/11 Don't know??
Posted by: Meg
| May 21, 2008 8:24 PM
9/11 not much here, but the following:
Reformist Republican Governor Sarah Palin has all but said that the Alaska Republican Party needs to rid itself of this type of public official.
http://redstate.com/blogs/siconservative/2007/sep/15/ted_stevens_has_to_go
Posted by: Meg
| May 21, 2008 8:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUosm_BBv9g
a nice girl explains what's wrong with her country.
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 8:31 PM
ISM w/ Tiny Tim - Tiptoe Through the Tulips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYEnpo2rma0
LOL
definitely different
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | May 21, 2008 8:42 PM
h
Posted by: painter
| May 21, 2008 8:43 PM
no vesti la giubbas?
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 8:51 PM
from the other room I hear some goobers trying to do "teach your children"........they moidalizing it.......
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 9:02 PM
the real wazoo......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6pphVs8bF0
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 9:05 PM
say NO TO PALIN!
she seems nice and good at a glance but she has f***ed Alaska over. She has her own agenda that she sticks to rather than what the people actually want. She spends 0 time in Juneau (the CAPITAL) and looks down on the people of Juneau. Recently there was an avalanche that knocked out all the power in Juneau, meaning we're running on desel and our power bills are going up 500%. She refused to declare a state of emergancy yet when a milk company, yes milk company, located near Wasilla (her fav part of the universe) was having trouble she spent the states money to fix it ASAP.
SHE'S THE WORST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO ALASKA AND WILL BE ONE OF THE WORST THINGS TO HAPPEN TO THE USA!!!
SAY NO TO SARAH PALIN!
Posted by: juneau-ite | May 21, 2008 9:07 PM
the main way clinton f'ed up was by not squashing obama.....but it aint over yet..........
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 9:08 PM
Clinton has received a lot of votes and has a strong and loyal voter block. Are "you/ they " saying that she "fucked" up because she should have easily beat Obama in this contest?
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 9:09 PM
Sturg
Love the harmony
Thanks
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | May 21, 2008 9:10 PM
juneau-ite
Why don't you tell us how you really feel.:-)
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | May 21, 2008 9:13 PM
they let Air America air here for about 6 months........I liked randi rhodes because she was a lefty.......but I got really tired of heariing that "bounce your boobies" song........then she turns out to be a real goober......que lastima. good riddance.......she wasnt funny. Ya gotta be funny to have a good show........
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 9:16 PM
She blew it because she lost to an inferior candidate for the job. That's why people are talking about it, not because he is superior to her....quite the opposite.
Glad you understand.
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 9:19 PM
I dont say it anything like that.......because......(pay attention, now) she aint lost yet. obama hasnt won yet and hillary hasnt lost yet......if she does I'll go with her whereever she wants to go, but she has not lost yet......no matter how much and for how long you scream that she has. It aint over yet.
let me hear you urge her to take it to the convention.....because she can.......and I hope she does.
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 9:20 PM
I hate crowned princes, except for those who have had a taste of enough life to allow them to develop some Solonic humility.
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 9:22 PM
LL,
How's the weather down there in Zimbabwe? LOL
Posted by: Rezdog
| May 21, 2008 9:24 PM
Hillary will go to the convention, for many reasons, one that I know of is simply, she said she would. She will be true to what she promised her base of supporters.
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 9:24 PM
scream on, brother......I will really enjoy seeing hillary clinton make a mush of your dreamboat........lol
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 9:26 PM
what gets me is how people on a blog will rant and rave and stomp and shout as if they were paid pundits on a television show......
ponderous..........ponderous...........
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 9:30 PM
Time for entertainment
Good Reagan joke
Rowan & Martin Laugh In - Cocktail Party 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4fhgyJ7GpA
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | May 21, 2008 9:34 PM
You mean , like a "DEA" job , sturge?
Posted by: Corey
| May 21, 2008 9:39 PM
"speak up for Obama," ____ AND(more to the job)___tear down Hillary and her supporters
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 9:44 PM
Yes we can
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 9:44 PM
Patsi
One of the major accomplishments my wife and I can claim. We brought together 2 warring factions in that group . Different people had been trying to stop the feud for 15 years. We did it in 3 months, of course, they came together to kick us out of the neighborhood association...........
But
It is a "Success Story", in community organizing that is all that counts.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | May 21, 2008 9:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqP3wT5lpa4
a song for true believers of all stripes.
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 9:49 PM
"fe and I can claim. We brought together 2 warring factions in that group . Different people had been trying to stop the feud for 15 years. We did it in 3 months, of course, they came together to kick us out of the neighborhood association..........."
Better you than me to live around an association! Ha! I'll bet you and your wife are happier without them....
Posted by: Patsi
| May 21, 2008 9:49 PM
WATCHING THE RIVER RUN / LOGGINS & MESSINA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uovFeeTvG0
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | May 21, 2008 9:55 PM
"pretty soon your going to be dead!"
Great song.....too bad....some nut had to shoot him down.
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 9:56 PM
Jack with that community organizing experience you could run for President! President of the United States!!
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 9:57 PM
the nut heard voices in his bathroom.......just like david hinckley did........the old voices in the bathroom trick............
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 9:59 PM
It was not a suburban type association that tells every body what to do.
It is more a neighborhood club that works with the city try to fix problems.
Like right now we are having graffitti problems.
I have started working with some of the crime committee members. I've got rental properties in the neighborhood and it is hard to convince people that it is a safe neighborhood when some idiot kids go around and spray paint everything.
But yep your right we didn't miss it.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | May 21, 2008 10:03 PM
Or maybe her campaign song will be " The Bitch is Back!"
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 10:03 PM
watching the river flow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nViPOfr1MeU
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 10:04 PM
"My mother did a make a funny today, she was in Palm Beach near where Hillary was campaiging, she said it looked like they were giving away free blood pressure screenings from the look of the crowd waiting for the event. "
The line will no doubt be inducted into the comedy writers Hall of Fame.
Posted by: Patsi
| May 21, 2008 10:06 PM
she was channeling Henny Youngman
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 10:06 PM
One reason Obama didn't mention Pakistan or OBL from Iowa:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JE20Df01.html
I know facts are a brutal thing, but please understand that two significant things are happening that affect a country Obama did talk about --Afghanistan. Despite making Iraq the reason there are not enough Arabic translators for Afghanistan, nor enough US paid for resources, 1. The agreements by the new government in Pakistan has reduced by half the badly needed daily cargo and supplies for the allied efforts against the Taliban and the results of these moves descibed in the link above are leading to more death and chaos. Now more militants captured by Musharraf are free to kill US soldiers including released Gitmo detainees. The judgment by Obama and Richardson including Rice and others on the Obama team were wrong and in so far as they added to the pressure to discredit Musharraf and hail the new "moderates", the result has been a dangerous decline in containing the Talibam. Meanwhile Obama denouces holding Democratic elections a terrible Bush mistake. wow.
On another factual note. Democrats tried to slip two illegal Amnesty bills into the defense funding bill in the House (great Pelosi), Amnesty provisions that favor wealthy corporations and their ability to get green cards and "guest workers". This will likely cause a fight in the Senate.
Also be well aware that the predator air craft Obama wants to use against terrorists like OBL are being delayed to the field of combat by the struggle over the Defense bill. See avaiation weekly for the report.
I guess us uneducated bitter white people, aren't as stupid as some politicans think.
Posted by: Maxtrue | May 21, 2008 10:06 PM
UB
LOL
Yep I've got about 3 years, just like Obama. All volunteer tho, never been paid. I'm afraid I don't have the temperament for it.
LOL
I have a worse temper than John McCain.
I'd just piss the world off.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | May 21, 2008 10:11 PM
Well then, you got the best of both of them....your mother sounds like she still has fun.
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 10:11 PM
No one could piss the world off more then Bush - that may be his only claim to fame......that he had the ability to piss off the entire planet.
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 10:15 PM
"She just retired. "
Probably had to keep working to pay for your pot.
Posted by: Patsi
| May 21, 2008 10:18 PM
Patsi darlin'
It's his mom
Come on peace, (Y)
:-)
I'm feeling real mellow I'm listening to
Loggins & Messina - House At Pooh Corner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9KzrDW-b-Q
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | May 21, 2008 10:24 PM
Religious people and religion has always frightened me. The obscure teachings and blind control over people's core beliefs is a very powerful tool.
I believe this or that - because I was raised that way.
Politics and religion have no room to dance together. They do it for votes, for votes only.
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 10:27 PM
UB
Even GW has a mom that loves him.
Ok enough of that I've got to play some other music
Back in minute
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | May 21, 2008 10:28 PM
Kenny Loggin's has "Breck girl hair" in that video.
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 10:28 PM
Henny Youngman's idea of Ethics:
say youre a partner in a dry cleaning store.......your partner is in the back and youre manning the counter......a lady comes in and pays her $100 tab.....she takes her clothes and begins to leave as you notice that she left two one hundred dollar bills instead of one.......Here's where the ethics come in......Do you or do you NOT tell your partner...........
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 10:31 PM
That's why Moms are so great....no matter what, they are there.
Thick or thin, good and bad......I would love my children no matter what, maybe not like them so much, but I would always love them.
Sturg, that's easy...you tell the woman who left too much money.
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 10:33 PM
ZZ TOP Tush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6bLwSl-hyc
There thats better
Lord take me down town YEEEEEAH
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | May 21, 2008 10:33 PM
dont tell me.....tell henny youngman.......
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 10:36 PM
UB
For me its that carma thing, if I kept the money something would bite me in the ass. and in the long run , for me, honesty has always paid more. I've lost that $100 and needed it bad so I don't want to put anyone else through the same.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | May 21, 2008 10:39 PM
honesty is a habit, once you have it you can't shake it
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 10:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoqG3hif_dg
the great butterfield
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 10:45 PM
what is this talk about bloody tattoos?
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 10:45 PM
Interesting appeals verdict on the "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy.
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20080522/Military.Gays/
Posted by: Jamie
| May 21, 2008 10:46 PM
"God I wish I could I be a fly on the wall on the May 31st meeting, I think Hillary going to get served a great big helping of kick ass."
I heard (channeling Gman/Max the super reporters) from my sources that Obama',s just going to let her rant and rave for the next week, pissing everyone off and then on the 30th seat the delegates as he wants.
She says she going to the convention, so he doesn't have much to lose now that he has the majority. SDs won't override the pledged voters.
Posted by: Rezdog
| May 21, 2008 10:47 PM
ZZ TOP " LEGS"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNvOPN1LoQ4
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | May 21, 2008 10:49 PM
I believe that marijuana should be legal and cigarettes illegal.
Oh. Did you, by chance, have knee surgery? Didn't that hurt when you got it?
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 10:52 PM
"SDs won't override the pledged voters."
Unless they live in Massachusetts. : )
Posted by: Jamie
| May 21, 2008 10:54 PM
I would have thought the palm would hurt the most.
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 10:58 PM
Does the one on you lower back say "Obama" inside a big heart, with an arrow through it?
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 10:59 PM
a friend may well be reckoned a masterpiece of nature.
--ralph waldo emerson via denny crane
Posted by: sturgeone | May 21, 2008 11:00 PM
I used to own the tattoo shop that is behind my shop. Yes all tattoo's hurt, one of the interesting things I noticed, women usually handled them much better than men do. They usually always had a much higher pain tolerance. Must be that child bearing thing!
Posted by: truebeliever
| May 21, 2008 11:02 PM
"Hagee has repented or didn't you hear? "
Max, they're digging up new tapes everyday. There's a couple new ones out about the US and our sole purpose of ridding the world of Islam, or something as nuts.
Posted by: Rezdog
| May 21, 2008 11:04 PM
There is NO rule that forbids ALL delegates from pledging their votes to any candidate they want. Thems the rules.
Let's see what fire Obama is stewing in come August when the Democrats try to eat food regulated by the new crowd. Not water bottled in plastic. No fried food. Mandated political correctness. Maybe there should be mandated starvation to reduce Obesity. Ah...Nanny is alive and well Rez, ain't she?
Posted by: Maxtrue | May 21, 2008 11:04 PM
I happen to have a beautiful stain glass window with Ralph Waldo Emerson's portrait in the middle. It was originally in the executive boardroom of Oliver Corporation.
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 11:07 PM
Max here's one
http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/38133-mccain-s-spiritual-guide-wants-america-to-destroy-islam
Posted by: Rezdog
| May 21, 2008 11:14 PM
Sorry, it won't be half as funny as Obama's new audio tapes and Michelle in action. Hagee isn't McCain's ex Pastor no matter how hard you try to bend history. But Meeks, Moss, Lee, Khalidi, Rezko, Frank, gees....why bother. You know the drill. And didn't Obama throw his Grandma under the bus and use his mom for a heathcare ad? I don't think there has been a Democratic candidate that has provided more reel to the opposition than Obama....and it keeps on coming. You would need an Arabic translator to keep tabs on it all.
Have fun with Hagee. I'm having far more fun watching Pakistan turn on us, the Mullah's laugh at Obama while blasting Hillary, the Chinese drill for oil as Pelosi sues OPEC. It just gets funnier every day. Let's see. What was the name of that White Catholic minister Obama befriended, the one that worked with Wright and Farrakhan? Maybe you should check out the article from the NRO today. 6 pages that discredit Obama's Trnity fiction. Complete with facts.
Posted by: Maxtrue | May 21, 2008 11:17 PM
Sure why not! But you got to pay shipping! And I don't want to know what you do with them!!!
Posted by: truebeliever
| May 21, 2008 11:22 PM
There is NO rule that forbids ALL delegates from pledging their votes to any candidate they want. Thems the rules."
Not going to happen! Sorry, Those are real pipe dreams.
Posted by: Rezdog
| May 21, 2008 11:22 PM
This may be off base, but as an observer, I would like to ask the question: Is being a "jew" the same as embracing the "jewish faith?" Or is it more of a birth thing, (your mother was Jewish)?
I really have no clue, and I am asking so I can understand.
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 11:23 PM
Being a "jew" is like being very frugal and cheap. Practical. At least around here. My landlord is a jew. He never spends money. Manufactures pennys with his butt cheeks!
Posted by: truebeliever
| May 21, 2008 11:27 PM
lol....okay...I get it....doesn't matter what you think, your mother's bloodline is the determining factor.
My niece is Jewish, and even if she does not follow the religion.
So when you guys pick on each other...."as a jew " it has more to do with blood line then beliefs? Correct?
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 11:33 PM
I hope that was a joke Truebeliever.
Yes, or are you an utter asshole?
Posted by: Maxtrue | May 21, 2008 11:33 PM
Ok I can see where this makes me look like a racists type person! But I am not. At least I never thought I was Being that. It was a compliment because these people were also thought to be very intelligent and rich because of these attributes.
Posted by: truebeliever
| May 21, 2008 11:37 PM
Nice to see that the female bloodline dominates in this instance. : )
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 11:38 PM
What does Hillary know about the Obama scandals? Everything! When would be the best time to drop a massive "bomb" on Obama? After the voting has been completed. Not good to do it now - to much turmoil. Think IT might be put out by Larry Johnson at NO Quarter - he can say that it was obtained from Repub sources (the fingerprint problem). A devastating scandal is the only way to move SDs away from Obama. Hillary is at war with Dean and his team.
Posted by: GORDO | May 21, 2008 11:38 PM
it's later then I thought....
peace everyone ~
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| May 21, 2008 11:41 PM
Question Gordo. Do you just descend and drop your payload, or do you read the thread you are bombing? Just asking. I do it too when I'm busy.
Stop sending a chill up my leg. I'll believe it when I see it having been let down before.
Posted by: Maxtrue | May 21, 2008 11:46 PM
Yeah, I'm not too much a practicing Jew. I would say I'm an agnostic and of course GOD could not possibly be immaterial, unless HE/SHE thinks a pair can beat a flush. Kind of pisses on the art form, eh?
Don't sweet it TB, but sterotypes are pretty obnoxious. You know us Hillary supporters have been accused of being racists. We have an even higher standard now to uphold.
Posted by: Maxtrue | May 21, 2008 11:50 PM
Well the last thing I want to do is offend anyone unintentionally. That certainly isn't my thing. Anyway it is late. nite all.
Posted by: truebeliever
| May 21, 2008 11:54 PM
Max ---------------
Looks like Larry Johnson is up to something - says he may have more info on another Obama "problem" next week. He seems to be engaged in preliminary preparation for full release - not good to just put it out "cold".
Posted by: GORDO | May 22, 2008 12:08 AM
ROFLMAO
Barack Obama as Clinton supporters would like him.
Barack (hat in hand): Ole Miss, I'se so sorry fo' tryin' to run ag'in ya. I'se meant no harm. Marse Clinton says I'se free, but he freer than me. So since he been so good to me, I'se just step aside fo you.
Hillary (rubbing Barack's head): That's a fine boy, Barry. You just step aside and make sure you listen to the minister down there.
Barack (bright smile): Oh yes, ma'am. He done told us to vote fo' you. I knows I can runs, but my peoples love you, Miss Clinton. I'd feel mighty bad takin' it away from you. So yous takes it.
Hillary: Good, Barry. You go on back to the plantation and we'll let you know when you're ready.
Barack: Thanks you ma'am. You Clintons is so good to poor ole Barry.
Barack skipping away singing..."Zippity Do Dah, Zippity Eh!"
Posted by: Mr. Democrat | May 21, 2008 4:57 AM
Posted by: Rezdog
| May 22, 2008 1:34 AM
hmmmm yep! looks like they're all here tonight ..
*sigh*
Posted by: Viv
| May 22, 2008 1:38 AM
Florida Jews to Obama: Get Lost!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/22/us/politics/22jewish.html?hp
Posted by: Dexter
| May 22, 2008 1:47 AM
Yeah , That asshole! He wrote many of these rules in the 90's.
He's even had to contradict himself defending HER.
She talks about disenfranchising voters and know god damn well if she had wrapped it up in January, she could give a rat's ass about MI, FL , or any other voters. She plays to ignorance and her base falls for it. What a joke!
Posted by: Rezdog
| May 22, 2008 1:48 AM
You two are clueless.
Posted by: GORDO | May 22, 2008 2:03 AM
That and adultery.
See you tomorrow.
Posted by: Rezdog
| May 22, 2008 2:23 AM
"Barack skipping away singing..."Zippity Do Dah, Zippity Eh!" Posted by: Mr. Democrat | May 21, 2008 4:57 AM"
Bye Bye
That was sick, even for you. And for you, Rez, to repeat it is shameless.
Posted by: Flatus
| May 22, 2008 2:47 AM
Flatus,
These little birdies spend all their time in their mirrors, preening and squawking...
Having no idea that all they both preen over and squawk against rudely is themselves.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 22, 2008 3:04 AM
Interesting tattoo info 9/11.
AT LAST:
Republicans are showing some gumption.
"In swift rebuff, House overrides Bush veto of farm bill
Republicans broke with White House on the measure"
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2008/05/22/in_swift_rebuff_house_overrides_bush_veto_of_farm_bill/
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| May 22, 2008 3:08 AM
My daughter made friends with Rob who is unique, wonderful and has a marvelous intellect.
And she told me Blue was Blutiful.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| May 22, 2008 3:42 AM
Sent to me by a friend.
I cannot figure out why we are even bothering to hold an
election in the US.
On one side, you have a bitch who is a lawyer, married to a lawyer,
running against a lawyer who is married to a bitch who is a lawyer.
On the other side, you have a war hero married to a good looking woman
with big boobs who owns a beer distributorship.
Is there really a contest here?"
Posted by: Bowmanc
| May 22, 2008 4:44 AM
Just what was McCain's great-great grandfather's position in the Confederate army? Was his a combat death or other causes?
Posted by: gevan | May 22, 2008 4:58 AM
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