Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Jamie:

I had to go all the way back to - last night - to find something nice I said about Clinton:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/04/pennsylvania-predictions.html#comment-70699

Overall - I thought her performance on TV last night was good.

(ouch - what is that poking sensation ; )

Baby steps Max - diplomacy is often a slow process....

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Senior Hamas representatives said Tuesday that the militant group is willing to accept a cease-fire limited to the Gaza Strip, dropping a long-standing demand that the West Bank be included in a halt to fighting with Israel.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080422/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_palestinians

MSNBC keeps lowering the standards for professional journalism. Now they love to broadcast rumor as as news, provided it benefits St. Obama.

David Shuster was just chomping at the bit to ask former Governor Roamer "Is it true super-delegates were about to break for Obama in a big way?" It was hysterical looking at Shuster's face when Roamer could NOT confirm that rumor.

Its nonsense like this that strips MSNBC of any credibility in the journalism profession.

--Heather

Heather - that is what you get when you go looking for "journalism" on MSNBC - or any cable news station for that matter.

If you want journalism - watch PBS (particularly Mr. Rose) - and if you want gossip - watch cable news.

Pretty good (and fair) article:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2008/04/unconventional_thoughts_on_the.html

Dear Warren:

LOL I love PBS and Charlie Rose, Diane Rheem etc etc unfortunately they are not on at the present time Warren.

P.S.
Warren I wanted to say that you are one of the few Obama supporters that I respect. You make your case for him intelligently and politely even though I respectfully disagree. When I say Obama supporters are rude insulting etc. etc. it is a generalization and does not include you Warren.

--Heather

Heather,

When watching or listening to news PBS informs you about the days events while the cables entertain you with the days events.

On a more serious note:

If you have used Lendingtree.com within the last couple of years to shop for a mortgage, there is a strong chance your information was compromised by a hacker...

http://redtape.msnbc.com/

Dear Bear:

Thank goodness I have not used lendingtree.com but I am not surprised, these days hackers seem to get into any nook and cranny nothing is sacred anymore.

--Heather

Heather:

Just remember - that generalization also does not include Senator Obama himself.

(Obama probably would not condone some of my harshest attacks on "you people" ; )

warren

http://www.esc.edu/esconline/across_esc/writerscomplex.nsf/3cc42a422514347a8525671d0049f395/b6e109bb00fbaf3d852569c30072f54d?OpenDocument

WOW Craig, You are good at math also !!
ALso what happens when the glamour stops the shin on BHO? What would a dem do?

OK,,, web page coming back on line...
Here is the first post at myamericanvalues.com

hey folks, a word of caution about Obama camp buzzing the media with talk of a coming mass of SuperDs -- they also said that six weeks ago on the day they lost Ohio: http://thepage.time.com/2008/03/04/tom-brokaw-says-obama-has-50-more-superdelegates-in-his-back-pocket/

and oh yeah, it didn't happen -- maybe this time it will

That is just good spin spin spin ...... The Chicago political factory is the master

OK BHO supporters....
Show me the answers...

http://www.myamericanvalues.com/2008/04/political-process-versus-value.htm

What Ping Pong?

Are you calling Obama just another Chicago machine politition?
Never!
He's a new style candidate that is old style politics.
Besides he doesn't smoke, much that is, OK doesn't smoke cigars. Does play a mean hand of poker.

Dear Ghost... You can be proud that in one manner.... the Chi Town Machine has CHANGED !!! But the spots on the leopard.....

will catch up later and see any responses from the BHO groupieeeesss.
Going to watch my daughters water polo team in regional finals - win and go to state!! lose and go home.
same thing for HRC tonight

maybe it's just me, but craig's math doesn't seem all that daunting, more like a checklist of very real possibilities.

now, to be clear, i will get out and fight in the streets for obama or clinton, whichever the nominee is in the general election. but i do get that "st. obama" vibe coming from the MSM - and it's easy to understand why. look at the candidate material they've had to work with for the past decade.

what i don't understand is the almost instant resuscitation of the vitriol with which the press treated bill clinton, even after 8 years of the worst president in history. it boggles my mind.

That's okay Warren. Brian would have had to go back to Chanukah.

All those early exit polls to my eye really seem to be favoring Obama, interesting point about Clinton emailing about how much money Obama spent.

20% of Hillary supporters feel Obama is going to be the nominee!

EXIT POLL DRAMA 5 PM ET: CLINTON 52, OBAMA 48
http://drudgereport.com/

Ha! Chris Matthews just called Clintonites "delusional".

Claire McCaskill is a piece of work. That is one Democrat that I wouldn't mind seeing thrown out of office. I don't mind Sen. Obama's other partisan office holding supporters, but she is creepy.

Craig, Do you know her? She sort of comes across as someone who would bag kittens for a swift trip to the river.

Clair is great! Now if you want to see a creepy partisan, take a look at Kiki McClain, what an obnoxious cow that one is.

I just sent Billary .25 cents to help her pay Howard Wolfson's $200,000 per month salary.

Hey, does anyone know if Hillary has collection agents calling her at 3am?

You mean Kiki's creepy smile? Yeesh. She has a worse wet lip problem than Chris Matthews.

another 1.5 hrs of this spin will drive us crazy. How many times have all the networks said she needs to quit now.

Brian,

Kiki seems nice enough for your run of the mill multimillionaire anorexic

on race to the whitehouse last night while panel was discussing obama/clinton ticket ....gene robinson said if he picks her as a running mate he'd better hire a food taster ....reverse racism?????...now thats MSNBC for you ...im surprised it hasnt hit the net

another 1.5 hrs of this spin will drive us crazy. How many times have all the networks said she needs to quit now.

ha, Jamie -- "bag kittens for a swift trip to the river" -- funny line

i'm off to the HRC primary party here in philly (Obama is gone to Indiana, i hear) -- it's either the new beginning, the end of her campaing or the beginning of the end.

collection agents, LOL.

craig be careful they may say you are for Hillary.

Craig drink a lot, I have a feeling the mood at HillCo is going to be gloomy!

and don't anyone ask me about exit polls -- remember, i gave them up along with cigarettes -- just look at the huge margins of error in their subgroups (if you can find them)

Are you still going to be on the blog tonight.

It would be nice if the Obama fans could express their support for their candidate without expressing such hatred and disdain for Hillary. Some of you seem to enjoy sticking the knife in and watching others bleed.

CRAIG will you be working (on a network)??

wont be able to do much blogging until late, vadaryl -- i have lost the ability to blog on my blackberry for some reason, gotta get that sorted out

tz

A commentator on the Cafferty blog used it to answer the question about them running together, and I heard it more than a week ago. Maybe one of the comedy shows used it as a line. Sounds like something a Leno or Letterman writer might produce.

we will miss you, hopefully you can get that sorted out soon.

well if it's as gloomy as you predict, Brian, i guess i'll be witnessing the end of the Clinton era, aka the only living Democrats who won the White House twice

"CRAIG will you be working (on a network)?? -- Posted by: Flatus"

nope, Flatus, i appear to be out of fasion, but GQ says the bolo tie is coming back

zing

Pennsylvania is really the last place Hillary had the funds to mount an effective campaign, this primary season for all practical reasons comes to an end tonight.

Maybe Craig can borrow a laptop to pop in. He can tempt the owner with a chance to read the best election night amateur commentary on the web. :-)

Glad I gave you a giggle Craig. Feel free to steal.

let's all post our predictions and see who is right just for fun.

Hillary by 10%

geez, if had a plug nickel for every time you've said that, brian, i could ride the philly subway for the rest of my life

Wolfson seems pretty gloomy, not a victory smile!

craig make a guess. will not hold you to it.

speaking of which, i'm off to the trolley now -- could be a big night for Ron Paul

ok vadaryl, clinton 54-46 -- that's it, i'm outta here

Ron Paul did run some ads over the weekend. That would be fun if he does well tonight.

Bush Disapproval highest in Gallup History

http://www.gallup.com/poll/106741/Bushs-69-Job-Disapproval-Rating-Highest-Gallup-History.aspx

I'll be a cock eyed optimist

Clinton by 13%

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4geFJgWjCM

the fabled "8"

Ron Paul! Down nash, down!

8 points Craig? Ha!

Here's a quick link on "DEMOCRATS AND THE POPULAR VOTE
It's in the eye of the beholder" from February 22, 2008

It is worth reading in anyone is interested.

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/article.php?id=FRC2008021901

God Bless.

For those of you also watching MSNBC and weren't quite clear what Ed Rendell was saying, he just conceded the nomination to Obama

See figure 2 which this is what is stated.

"Decisions, decisions, decisions. When it comes to a popular vote count in this year's Democratic presidential race, there are a variety of formulations that can lead to a number of different outcomes. Heading toward the big March 4 primaries in Ohio and Texas, Barack Obama leads in all the basic formulations for tallying the popular vote. But his advantage in some are much narrower than others. And it is arguable that Obama's lead in all of these formulations can still be overturned by a series of strong Hillary Clinton showings in the big states left to vote. The tallies are from all states that voted through Feb. 19 plus the District of Columbia."

God Bless.

As far as campaigning, many discern a negative tone — and more blame it on Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., than on Barack Obama, D-Ill. Two-thirds of Pennsylvania voters in preliminary exit poll results say Clinton attacked Obama unfairly; fewer, but still about half, also say Obama unfairly attacked Clinton.

http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Politics/story?id=4703379&page=1

I can't believe Rendell conceded. I can believe that MSNBC wants that to happen.

I will see what he says on CNN when they talk to him

Vad-
Rendell didn't concede...just wishful thinking on someones part.

I hope they don't build this up and we have to wait until 9.

Interesting that CNN is announcing the exit polls so soon. I guess they figure people will tune out at 8 and watch american idol or here in DC flip over and watch the hockey game.

My guess is we will have to wait a while....I don't think they will run the risk of using exit polls to call it...the state is so diverse.
Does anyone know what type of voting apparatus PA uses?

Here is the Pennsylvania Secretary of State returns

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/

Ping Pong:

One of my major arguments for Obama is process.

I think the critical challenges the world faces cannot be solved by even the mighty Clintons with this Country divided (especially the division that exists amongst our so-called leaders in Washington).

Clinton can give all the lip service she wants about "working across the aisle". But a significant part of America including voters, law makers and pundits alike have closed the book on the Clintons.

(The Clintons fought the good fight and accomplished many great things - but in doing so - scars and animosity have been built up on each side.)

I am not a fan of partisan thinking. It ends up too much a like a lawsuit with two sides working against each other - instead of working for us.

And I am familiar with all the criticisms of W in the White House - but personally I still think the President of the United States deserves a certain amount of respect (I will fight for the right for you to be able to say whatever you want about the POTUS - but that does not mean I enjoy how that right is sometimes exercised.) The last 7 years I have sat around, usually with Democratic crowds, sneering and hurling insults at the TV while watching the State of the Union.

I think "you people" would be inspired each and every year when Clinton gave that speech. While half the Country hurled insults and empty beer cans at the TV.

I think if Obama gives the next State of the Union speech, a lot more Americans will actually be listening. And that is a good thing.

(Plus - the same Democratic establishment will be backing either Obama or Clinton - and each candidate will be pushing the same basic agenda.)

watching "Support your Local Sherrif"

http://www.hollywoodusa.co.uk/ForeverObituaries/joanhackett.htm

Warren also claims Obama has a lot of experience but none of it bears out his claims of process or new style of governance in fact his performance in the Illinois state senate and his time in the US senate is just the opposite.

Words have meaning.

Bill Bennet just made a good point, why doesn't Obama hold a press conference and deal with all of this and get it out on the table.

Gidget...

I read somewhere that two counties are using the same type of Touch Screen Voting machines that caused problems in New Jersey.

I don't remember which counties they are though. I would be very skeptical of the vote tally from those counties no matter who has the most votes from them.

God Bless.

Just did a short flip over the MSNBC. CNN has them so far outclassed for their panel of experts that it is almost embarrassing.

Funny item. Did MSNBC do their own exit polling or are they stealing the numbers from CNN? They are showing the "did Clinton attack unfairly" number and it is the same as the CNN number. That would certainly be one way to save money. ♪♫♪

Hello, Facts.........

sturge,

I love her best in Will Penny.

"... the Associated Press took a recent poll of National voters regarding this issue, and found that 15% of respondents believed that Barack Obama was in fact a Muslim. Ironically, the only way he can prove that he is not a Muslim ‘anymore’ is by loudly underlining his association with the bigoted Trinity Church of Christ, something that would definitely not help his case in the general election."

http://savagepolitics.com/

Here's two links on the machines that were used in New Jersey and had problems.

The first one is from The Brad Blog and talks about how these machines are easy to hack and change votes.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4141

This link below is the one that talks about the machines in New Jersey and here's a little snippet of it.

"New Jersey Gov. John Corzine was one of more than a dozen voters delayed or turned away from a polling place in Hoboken, NJ, one of 24 states holding primaries or caucuses Tuesday."

Read whole article here from The Raw Story link below.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Problems_crop_up_early_in_Super_0205.html

God Bless.

Never make the cook angry..........

Must be really bad for Obama. He has left the state and his supporters are screeching voter fraud and Bradley effect.

If it turns into a long night, you can keep track of the baseball games here:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/scoreboard

you can watch msnbc on the net

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22886841#22886841

Here's the story about the PA problems that will steal the election due to using Touch Screen Voting Machines.

Here's a snippet and then you can check the link out below it for the whole article.

"On the eve of tomorrow's hotly contested and relatively close Democratic presidential primary in Pennsylvania, a number of voting activists are sounding the alarm one last time about the state's election systems. Over 85 percent of PA voters will vote on paperless touchscreen machines that are hackable, failure-prone, and fundamentally unauditable."

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080421-pa-primary-will-be-unauditable-gop-blocks-e-voting-reform.html

God Bless.

Jamie:

I am a big fan of Claire!!

(We are like oil and water tonite - I thought you got along with Pisces....)

btw, Claire is a Leo (but she's on the cusp and almost a Cancer as well - no pun intended ; )

"Except for three years spent in private practice as an attorney at the firm of a leading Kansas City trial lawyer (1989 to 1991), McCaskill has worked in the public sector continuously since graduating from law school in 1978."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claire_McCaskill

Unlike Hillary Claire made it on her own!

I am a Pisces with a Leo ascendant and six placements including moon in Gemini ...

Pick a personality any personality. I have one for all occasions. ☺

Since we already know that the Republican Fascist Nazi Party would rather face Hillary in the November election since they believe that a Hillary nomination would unite the party against her the fix could be in to hack the touch screen vote totals in her favor.

So with 85% of unadutiable votes since there is no paper trail to verify against I would certainly question any tally for either candidate if the exit polling is way off.

God Bless.

Claire McCaskill is married to an extremely wealthy man who bought public office for her

But Jamie - I also sometimes dislike people who are effective advocates for Senator Clinton - but it is always passing.

So far - the two best on TV have been Rendell and MoJo (with Pat B running a close 3rd ; ). Oh, and Harold Ford Jr. can be pretty effective on the sly - even though he is "impartial".

(Carville seems like a rapid dog and Wolf-boy has actually improved.)

Exposito was found murdered.

Did they ever discover who murder Claire's ex hubby?

Too close to call...guess Billary's not getting that 20% victory...

what as tease

Political Family

McCaskill's father, William Y. McCaskill, served as a state Insurance Commissioner during the administration of Governor Warren E. Hearnes. Her mother Betty Anne was the first woman elected to the City Council of Columbia MO.

Multimillionaire husband to finance campaign

In April 2002, McCaskill married St. Louis businessman Joseph Shepard. From her marriage to Shepard, she has four stepchildren. Shepard loaned $1.6 million to McCaskill's 2004 gubernatorial campaign, and also had business interests in the nursing home industry. Because as state auditor McCaskill was responsible for auditing the Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services, which regulates the state's nursing home system, Shepard's financial interests in the industry became an issue during the 2004 gubernatorial campaign

McCaskill's track record.

1) The way she handled only giving a slap on the wrist to an employee (and friend) who used goverment computrs to give information to a meth dealer. Lot of trust there.

2) Her husband made a lot of money on tax credits and using the goverment subisdies to build low income housing, nothing illegal that I know of, but definitely crossing the line as being not of high ethical standards.

ratings, ratings, ratings

I like serpent head's humor, but Rendell is the most effective. I don't care for Pat B.

Not looking good Clintonista

I wonder if NBC has a camera at the Clinton rally. It would be nice if they put Craig on from the location.

Gee surprise, KO ever so sweetly wants Clinton to do a gracious withdrawal and Andrea simpers in agreement with him ... gag a maggot.

I hope we can all agree it is pretty annoying to see Kiki and Jamal going at it. Bad "casting" on CNN's part.

(But I am sure the Clintonites enjoy it because sometimes Jamal is about effective as Alan Colmes.)

ok what's happening. Spin or truth.

They just showed Andrea live from Clinton party, really seemed low key.

could be planed that way

place still did not look full yet

Polls closed 20 minutes ago vadaryl, why isn't it filled up yet?

I actually like Ed Rendell. Always have. I know he's on the other side, but I just can't help but like him. He's a Democrats Democrat and I think he'll fight for Hillary, but give a 100% effort for Obama when he wins.

lisa does look down

Jeez. I hope you Clintonites don't have a "file" on me...

Talk about hardball (or some would say "old school politics".)

No wonder why Obama has not won over all of the major hip-hop artists yet....the Clintons are living the "thug life"!!

(I thought I heard Jay-Z was supporting Clinton awhile back - I need to get an update on that one.)

why no numbers at all, this is crazy

Polls closed 20 minutes ago vadaryl, why isn't it filled up yet?

Posted by: BrianInNYC

Just winding up the final work at the polls and out to dinner. Gone to Daniel's to celebrate. Party with Senator Clinton when the results are in,

The ones I really like are Begala and Brazille. They are both thoughtful and intelligent.

i can't tell by Paul's face what is going on yet.

Obama is the one who listens to JAY Z. He can even quote the lyrics to the songs: 99 problems .. brush off.

Correction...

I found another article that said most Touch Screen machines had been decertified and Optical Scan machines had been bought to replace them.

There are still two counties I believe whose Touch Screen machines will still be used and were not ones included in the decertification.

I still don't remember which counties those were though.

God Bless.

I've opened my chat room if any are interested in live chatting

http://www.brianarens.com/blog/chat.htm

Craig:

"i appear to be out of fashion"

Intelligence is out these days. You may want to "dumb it down" a little.

Some of the pundits seem to enjoy making the same arguments over and over again - and don't like when guests go off the script.

msnbc has her pretty much dead tonight. Better coverage on CNN

BTW no password needed on my chat, just replace "Guest" with whatever name you want to use, if the name isn't available the server will tell you so.

I hope whoever "philly friends" is, pops in with first hand reports so we don't have to depend on the ax grinders at the networks.

No numbers on the S of S site yet. They must be sending them in overland via stagecoach.

MSNBC is now making a joke of this.

This may be the end of the long and winding road for Hillary. I mean really, why can't they report results, they do not need to "call It " ? Just show some results.

Iceberg ahead as they go to break. Come on! this is bush league coverage.

If msnbc isnt showing results, it's because they dont like them.........

finally clinton leads but they are calling it to early instead of to close

"Bill Bennet just made a good point, why doesn't Obama hold a press conference and deal with all of this and get it out on the table."

Because no one looks good under cross examination. He made a speech called "A More Perfect Union" after the race issue came up. Because it is a "real issue" for this Country.

What is going to be the title of this press conference - Obama defends himself against "guilt by association".

Gimme a freaking break. If we had the same "press conference" for the Clintons it would look like the last episode of Seinfeld.

Is any network showing results? I am away from my Tv

cnn got numbers running at the bottom

Fox says they don't have any raw numbers at all yet. They said that they suspect a trend of Obama doing better in the Exit Polling than he did in the actual vote. Not promising for Hillary any way you cut it.

Is any network showing results? I am away from my Tv

67 - 33 1600 to 800

okay thanks....

you guys are the best

btw, since we are waiting for more results, why isn't the word " Okay " ok? It is always highlighted as incorrect spelling.

And what did o. k. mean or represent?

I am sure one of you know...

Those CNN are still exit poll numbers. There are no official reported totals yet.

Thanks Jamie.

these are real results not exit numbers

OK
1839, only survivor of a slang fad in Boston and New York c.1838-9 for abbreviations of common phrases with deliberate, jocular misspellings (cf. K.G. for "no go," as if spelled "know go"); in this case, "oll korrect." Further popularized by use as an election slogan by the O.K. Club, New York boosters of Democratic president Martin Van Buren's 1840 re-election bid, in allusion to his nickname Old Kinderhook, from his birth in the N.Y. village of Kinderhook. Van Buren lost, the word stuck, in part because it filled a need for a quick way to write an approval on a document, bill, etc. The noun is first attested 1841; the verb 1888. Spelled out as okeh, 1919, by Woodrow Wilson, on assumption that it represented Choctaw okeh "it is so" (a theory which lacks historical documentation); this was ousted quickly by okay after the appearance of that form in 1929. Okey-doke is student slang first attested 1932.

exit is saying it's close

MSnbc has some numbers up now

65% to 35%

vadaryl, 0% reporting, why are you giving these people false hope?

It's almost 1 hr now, watch just before 9 they wil call it before american idol.

I spent much of the day calling Pennsylvania voters. for Hillary. They are a very friendly bunch of people. Many carried on nice conversations. It was a really good time and I am a person who hates telephoning.

Good Lord that Harold Ford has gorgeous eyes. I could stare into those things all night long...

Paul is all smiles now.

sturgeone ,
I am glad I asked, thank you for that tid-bit. Whatever a tid-bit is... : )

now that's funny.......scarbro says that obama can balance losing blue collar worker votes to hillary by picking up republicans......\

LOL

confucious say: woman who goes to man's apartment for lunch gets tid-bit.

msnbc calls it for Hill

73% 26% on S of S Site

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/

Sorry I'm so late, gang. I've been watching more important things -- Magic-Raptors, Round 1, Game 2 of the NBA playoffs. Magic up by a bucket at halftime.

So...is there some sort of election in Pennsylvania tonite?

MSNBC just called for Hillary, but no margin yet.

Coming in really slow. Only 59 out of 9211 districts reporting.

Given Hillary's Pennsylvania win to add to all the other major state wins she's racked up, I'm sure this race would be over right now if we were playing by the same rules that got McCain nominated.

Does anyone have a handy-dandy chart that could show us what the delegate count would be at this point if the Dems had winner-take-all rules, sted of the pretzel logic that currently dictates delegate selection?

Obviously it's just an academic exercise. But still.

I hope she kicks his ___ !

But that is just a personal opinion on my part.

Congrats to the Clintonites. Now go give her some money. The website: www.IpaidMarkPenn4mil.com

I'm about to give Barack another $100. And I just got my cool t-shirt!

cbs just called it for Hillary

Poor Keith Olberman..doesn't iknow how to handle his network declaring Hillary the winner..

Olberman to Brokaw: "Tom.....isnt there some way we can say Hillary is losing..........Think, man, Think."

Congrats Clinton Country!

show us your "cool T-shirt"

at least they have Tom to keep him in line

howard is spinning

Bye Bye......be sure you send it to

imajerk.com

They are just keeping it real. Until we see +200K votes - the "victory" will be debated.

It's the tan one with Obama's face on it. I still have 1500 dollars to contribute to the campaign.

The Republican numbers are fun. Ron Paul 15%, Mike Huckabee 12%, and John McCain 72%

bye bye......send away.....after all, "a fool and his money make some party."

Does anyone else think the nearly full hour of "it's too close to call" chatter by pro-Obama pundits tonite, allowing nearly a full hour of gloom, doom hand-wringing and more "Hillary should drop out immediately" chatter might maybe just have had the effect of pushing more superdelegates to Obama -- no matter even if the final margin tonight ends up meeting everyone's initial expectations?

If so, MSNBC should lose it's broadcast license.

Why can't these dumbasses just cover the news, instead of always trying to predict it and shape it?

Lardman......they do as they are told?

Lard Dear

Here is a TPM with some numbers as of February. Clinton would be winning.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/hillary_would_have_benefitted.php

well, if nothing else, Craig gets to go to a nice party........

John King does a very good job on CNN.

I understand why the networks waited to declare because there were absolutely no raw votes for a very long time.

If you spent 3 minutes looking at the CNN Exit Polls the final result was quite clear..

CNN is very good...I turn to MSNBC for a little comic relief..

Brian:

"Pennsylvania is really the last place Hillary had the funds to mount an effective campaign...."

I don't think you need that much money to run an effective campaign with this much news coverage.

I don't know how many votes are moved by 30-second ads when the candidates are this well known.

PA was hers to win. And the Clinton establishment connections were much more valuable than cash.

(Obama should paid "street money" and bought this election - I bet the Clintonites woulda loved that!!)

Yeah, you're right Sturg. What was I thinking? Obama drives ratings in the most desireable demographic so we need to keep his candidacy alive until November when McCain beats him. I forgot.

Hey Sturgeone,

I'm guessing that the Clintonites have been partying it up! I wonder if they're checking couches for coins?

Thanks Jamie. It's amazing. I started such a chart back about then and saw she'd be ahead...but now after Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania...she'd be totally blowing him away.

Her lead is down to 4%! I'm still holding the final will be her's by 3%.

"The Republican numbers are fun. Ron Paul 15%, Mike Huckabee 12%, and John McCain 72%"

McCain can't "close the deal" - those guys aren't even running!!

(btw, Obama gets pretty much all of Paul's 15% and could take half of the Huck's votes. How many do you think HRC would get?)

bye bye........quick......turn to msnbc and Terry McAulliffe will answer that one............

It just went back up to 8 percent Brian. Keep chasing your tail, while the rest of us wait calmly for the real, final number.

Okay. Second half beckons. Back to basketball.
I hope by just logging in here tonight, I brought good luck to Hillary.

Well the way to stop MSnbc is to boycott them, but additionally, you need to watch another competing channel 24/7. This will deplete their ratings and drive overs up.

I have stopped watching unless there is an "event. "

overs = others

Harold Ford is back on MSNBC...

Poor Russert. He looks like someone slipped a balut into his egg-drop soup.

warren said:
(btw, Obama gets pretty much all of Paul's 15% and could take half of the Huck's votes. How many do you think HRC would get?)

Dont you get tired of pulling this stuff out from down below?

sturg:

You Clintonites too often believe dismissing someone is an adequate response.

(And I think you have fooled yourself into somehow believing it is "civil")

Craig gets to go to a nice party........ I hope he doesn't have too good a time.

Watch Out For That Tree

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warren......I'm not one of the civil ones......and I'm not dismissing you.....just your goofy "facts"......
and Im not "you people" .......im Me People.
by the way.

touche warren!