Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Jamie:

I had to go all the way back to - last night - to find something nice I said about Clinton:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/04/pennsylvania-predictions.html#comment-70699

Overall - I thought her performance on TV last night was good.

(ouch - what is that poking sensation ; )

Baby steps Max - diplomacy is often a slow process....

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Senior Hamas representatives said Tuesday that the militant group is willing to accept a cease-fire limited to the Gaza Strip, dropping a long-standing demand that the West Bank be included in a halt to fighting with Israel.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080422/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_palestinians

MSNBC keeps lowering the standards for professional journalism. Now they love to broadcast rumor as as news, provided it benefits St. Obama.

David Shuster was just chomping at the bit to ask former Governor Roamer "Is it true super-delegates were about to break for Obama in a big way?" It was hysterical looking at Shuster's face when Roamer could NOT confirm that rumor.

Its nonsense like this that strips MSNBC of any credibility in the journalism profession.

--Heather

Heather - that is what you get when you go looking for "journalism" on MSNBC - or any cable news station for that matter.

If you want journalism - watch PBS (particularly Mr. Rose) - and if you want gossip - watch cable news.

Pretty good (and fair) article:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2008/04/unconventional_thoughts_on_the.html

Dear Warren:

LOL I love PBS and Charlie Rose, Diane Rheem etc etc unfortunately they are not on at the present time Warren.

P.S.
Warren I wanted to say that you are one of the few Obama supporters that I respect. You make your case for him intelligently and politely even though I respectfully disagree. When I say Obama supporters are rude insulting etc. etc. it is a generalization and does not include you Warren.

--Heather

Heather,

When watching or listening to news PBS informs you about the days events while the cables entertain you with the days events.

On a more serious note:

If you have used Lendingtree.com within the last couple of years to shop for a mortgage, there is a strong chance your information was compromised by a hacker...

http://redtape.msnbc.com/

Dear Bear:

Thank goodness I have not used lendingtree.com but I am not surprised, these days hackers seem to get into any nook and cranny nothing is sacred anymore.

--Heather

Heather:

Just remember - that generalization also does not include Senator Obama himself.

(Obama probably would not condone some of my harshest attacks on "you people" ; )

warren

http://www.esc.edu/esconline/across_esc/writerscomplex.nsf/3cc42a422514347a8525671d0049f395/b6e109bb00fbaf3d852569c30072f54d?OpenDocument

WOW Craig, You are good at math also !!
ALso what happens when the glamour stops the shin on BHO? What would a dem do?

OK,,, web page coming back on line...
Here is the first post at myamericanvalues.com

hey folks, a word of caution about Obama camp buzzing the media with talk of a coming mass of SuperDs -- they also said that six weeks ago on the day they lost Ohio: http://thepage.time.com/2008/03/04/tom-brokaw-says-obama-has-50-more-superdelegates-in-his-back-pocket/

and oh yeah, it didn't happen -- maybe this time it will

That is just good spin spin spin ...... The Chicago political factory is the master

OK BHO supporters....
Show me the answers...

http://www.myamericanvalues.com/2008/04/political-process-versus-value.htm

What Ping Pong?

Are you calling Obama just another Chicago machine politition?
Never!
He's a new style candidate that is old style politics.
Besides he doesn't smoke, much that is, OK doesn't smoke cigars. Does play a mean hand of poker.

Dear Ghost... You can be proud that in one manner.... the Chi Town Machine has CHANGED !!! But the spots on the leopard.....

will catch up later and see any responses from the BHO groupieeeesss.
Going to watch my daughters water polo team in regional finals - win and go to state!! lose and go home.
same thing for HRC tonight

maybe it's just me, but craig's math doesn't seem all that daunting, more like a checklist of very real possibilities.

now, to be clear, i will get out and fight in the streets for obama or clinton, whichever the nominee is in the general election. but i do get that "st. obama" vibe coming from the MSM - and it's easy to understand why. look at the candidate material they've had to work with for the past decade.

what i don't understand is the almost instant resuscitation of the vitriol with which the press treated bill clinton, even after 8 years of the worst president in history. it boggles my mind.

Ha! Chris Matthews just called Clintonites "delusional".

Claire McCaskill is a piece of work. That is one Democrat that I wouldn't mind seeing thrown out of office. I don't mind Sen. Obama's other partisan office holding supporters, but she is creepy.

Craig, Do you know her? She sort of comes across as someone who would bag kittens for a swift trip to the river.

I just sent Billary .25 cents to help her pay Howard Wolfson's $200,000 per month salary.

Hey, does anyone know if Hillary has collection agents calling her at 3am?

You mean Kiki's creepy smile? Yeesh. She has a worse wet lip problem than Chris Matthews.

another 1.5 hrs of this spin will drive us crazy. How many times have all the networks said she needs to quit now.

on race to the whitehouse last night while panel was discussing obama/clinton ticket ....gene robinson said if he picks her as a running mate he'd better hire a food taster ....reverse racism?????...now thats MSNBC for you ...im surprised it hasnt hit the net

another 1.5 hrs of this spin will drive us crazy. How many times have all the networks said she needs to quit now.

ha, Jamie -- "bag kittens for a swift trip to the river" -- funny line

i'm off to the HRC primary party here in philly (Obama is gone to Indiana, i hear) -- it's either the new beginning, the end of her campaing or the beginning of the end.

craig be careful they may say you are for Hillary.

and don't anyone ask me about exit polls -- remember, i gave them up along with cigarettes -- just look at the huge margins of error in their subgroups (if you can find them)

Are you still going to be on the blog tonight.

CRAIG will you be working (on a network)??

wont be able to do much blogging until late, vadaryl -- i have lost the ability to blog on my blackberry for some reason, gotta get that sorted out

tz

A commentator on the Cafferty blog used it to answer the question about them running together, and I heard it more than a week ago. Maybe one of the comedy shows used it as a line. Sounds like something a Leno or Letterman writer might produce.

we will miss you, hopefully you can get that sorted out soon.

"CRAIG will you be working (on a network)?? -- Posted by: Flatus"

nope, Flatus, i appear to be out of fasion, but GQ says the bolo tie is coming back

zing

Maybe Craig can borrow a laptop to pop in. He can tempt the owner with a chance to read the best election night amateur commentary on the web. :-)

Glad I gave you a giggle Craig. Feel free to steal.

let's all post our predictions and see who is right just for fun.

Hillary by 10%

craig make a guess. will not hold you to it.

speaking of which, i'm off to the trolley now -- could be a big night for Ron Paul

ok vadaryl, clinton 54-46 -- that's it, i'm outta here

Ron Paul did run some ads over the weekend. That would be fun if he does well tonight.

Bush Disapproval highest in Gallup History

http://www.gallup.com/poll/106741/Bushs-69-Job-Disapproval-Rating-Highest-Gallup-History.aspx

I'll be a cock eyed optimist

Clinton by 13%

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4geFJgWjCM

the fabled "8"

Here's a quick link on "DEMOCRATS AND THE POPULAR VOTE
It's in the eye of the beholder" from February 22, 2008

It is worth reading in anyone is interested.

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/article.php?id=FRC2008021901

God Bless.

See figure 2 which this is what is stated.

"Decisions, decisions, decisions. When it comes to a popular vote count in this year's Democratic presidential race, there are a variety of formulations that can lead to a number of different outcomes. Heading toward the big March 4 primaries in Ohio and Texas, Barack Obama leads in all the basic formulations for tallying the popular vote. But his advantage in some are much narrower than others. And it is arguable that Obama's lead in all of these formulations can still be overturned by a series of strong Hillary Clinton showings in the big states left to vote. The tallies are from all states that voted through Feb. 19 plus the District of Columbia."

God Bless.

I can't believe Rendell conceded. I can believe that MSNBC wants that to happen.

I will see what he says on CNN when they talk to him

Vad-
Rendell didn't concede...just wishful thinking on someones part.

I hope they don't build this up and we have to wait until 9.

Interesting that CNN is announcing the exit polls so soon. I guess they figure people will tune out at 8 and watch american idol or here in DC flip over and watch the hockey game.

My guess is we will have to wait a while....I don't think they will run the risk of using exit polls to call it...the state is so diverse.
Does anyone know what type of voting apparatus PA uses?

Here is the Pennsylvania Secretary of State returns

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/

Ping Pong:

One of my major arguments for Obama is process.

I think the critical challenges the world faces cannot be solved by even the mighty Clintons with this Country divided (especially the division that exists amongst our so-called leaders in Washington).

Clinton can give all the lip service she wants about "working across the aisle". But a significant part of America including voters, law makers and pundits alike have closed the book on the Clintons.

(The Clintons fought the good fight and accomplished many great things - but in doing so - scars and animosity have been built up on each side.)

I am not a fan of partisan thinking. It ends up too much a like a lawsuit with two sides working against each other - instead of working for us.

And I am familiar with all the criticisms of W in the White House - but personally I still think the President of the United States deserves a certain amount of respect (I will fight for the right for you to be able to say whatever you want about the POTUS - but that does not mean I enjoy how that right is sometimes exercised.) The last 7 years I have sat around, usually with Democratic crowds, sneering and hurling insults at the TV while watching the State of the Union.

I think "you people" would be inspired each and every year when Clinton gave that speech. While half the Country hurled insults and empty beer cans at the TV.

I think if Obama gives the next State of the Union speech, a lot more Americans will actually be listening. And that is a good thing.

(Plus - the same Democratic establishment will be backing either Obama or Clinton - and each candidate will be pushing the same basic agenda.)

watching "Support your Local Sherrif"

http://www.hollywoodusa.co.uk/ForeverObituaries/joanhackett.htm

Warren also claims Obama has a lot of experience but none of it bears out his claims of process or new style of governance in fact his performance in the Illinois state senate and his time in the US senate is just the opposite.

Words have meaning.

Bill Bennet just made a good point, why doesn't Obama hold a press conference and deal with all of this and get it out on the table.

Gidget...

I read somewhere that two counties are using the same type of Touch Screen Voting machines that caused problems in New Jersey.

I don't remember which counties they are though. I would be very skeptical of the vote tally from those counties no matter who has the most votes from them.

God Bless.

Just did a short flip over the MSNBC. CNN has them so far outclassed for their panel of experts that it is almost embarrassing.

Funny item. Did MSNBC do their own exit polling or are they stealing the numbers from CNN? They are showing the "did Clinton attack unfairly" number and it is the same as the CNN number. That would certainly be one way to save money. ♪♫♪

Hello, Facts.........

sturge,

I love her best in Will Penny.

"... the Associated Press took a recent poll of National voters regarding this issue, and found that 15% of respondents believed that Barack Obama was in fact a Muslim. Ironically, the only way he can prove that he is not a Muslim ‘anymore’ is by loudly underlining his association with the bigoted Trinity Church of Christ, something that would definitely not help his case in the general election."

http://savagepolitics.com/

Here's two links on the machines that were used in New Jersey and had problems.

The first one is from The Brad Blog and talks about how these machines are easy to hack and change votes.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4141

This link below is the one that talks about the machines in New Jersey and here's a little snippet of it.

"New Jersey Gov. John Corzine was one of more than a dozen voters delayed or turned away from a polling place in Hoboken, NJ, one of 24 states holding primaries or caucuses Tuesday."

Read whole article here from The Raw Story link below.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Problems_crop_up_early_in_Super_0205.html

God Bless.

Never make the cook angry..........

Must be really bad for Obama. He has left the state and his supporters are screeching voter fraud and Bradley effect.

If it turns into a long night, you can keep track of the baseball games here:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/scoreboard

you can watch msnbc on the net

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22886841#22886841

Here's the story about the PA problems that will steal the election due to using Touch Screen Voting Machines.

Here's a snippet and then you can check the link out below it for the whole article.

"On the eve of tomorrow's hotly contested and relatively close Democratic presidential primary in Pennsylvania, a number of voting activists are sounding the alarm one last time about the state's election systems. Over 85 percent of PA voters will vote on paperless touchscreen machines that are hackable, failure-prone, and fundamentally unauditable."

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080421-pa-primary-will-be-unauditable-gop-blocks-e-voting-reform.html

God Bless.

Jamie:

I am a big fan of Claire!!

(We are like oil and water tonite - I thought you got along with Pisces....)

btw, Claire is a Leo (but she's on the cusp and almost a Cancer as well - no pun intended ; )

"Except for three years spent in private practice as an attorney at the firm of a leading Kansas City trial lawyer (1989 to 1991), McCaskill has worked in the public sector continuously since graduating from law school in 1978."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claire_McCaskill

I am a Pisces with a Leo ascendant and six placements including moon in Gemini ...

Pick a personality any personality. I have one for all occasions. ☺

Since we already know that the Republican Fascist Nazi Party would rather face Hillary in the November election since they believe that a Hillary nomination would unite the party against her the fix could be in to hack the touch screen vote totals in her favor.

So with 85% of unadutiable votes since there is no paper trail to verify against I would certainly question any tally for either candidate if the exit polling is way off.

God Bless.

Claire McCaskill is married to an extremely wealthy man who bought public office for her

But Jamie - I also sometimes dislike people who are effective advocates for Senator Clinton - but it is always passing.

So far - the two best on TV have been Rendell and MoJo (with Pat B running a close 3rd ; ). Oh, and Harold Ford Jr. can be pretty effective on the sly - even though he is "impartial".

(Carville seems like a rapid dog and Wolf-boy has actually improved.)

Exposito was found murdered.

Did they ever discover who murder Claire's ex hubby?

Too close to call...guess Billary's not getting that 20% victory...

what as tease

Political Family

McCaskill's father, William Y. McCaskill, served as a state Insurance Commissioner during the administration of Governor Warren E. Hearnes. Her mother Betty Anne was the first woman elected to the City Council of Columbia MO.

Multimillionaire husband to finance campaign

In April 2002, McCaskill married St. Louis businessman Joseph Shepard. From her marriage to Shepard, she has four stepchildren. Shepard loaned $1.6 million to McCaskill's 2004 gubernatorial campaign, and also had business interests in the nursing home industry. Because as state auditor McCaskill was responsible for auditing the Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services, which regulates the state's nursing home system, Shepard's financial interests in the industry became an issue during the 2004 gubernatorial campaign

McCaskill's track record.

1) The way she handled only giving a slap on the wrist to an employee (and friend) who used goverment computrs to give information to a meth dealer. Lot of trust there.

2) Her husband made a lot of money on tax credits and using the goverment subisdies to build low income housing, nothing illegal that I know of, but definitely crossing the line as being not of high ethical standards.

ratings, ratings, ratings

I like serpent head's humor, but Rendell is the most effective. I don't care for Pat B.

I wonder if NBC has a camera at the Clinton rally. It would be nice if they put Craig on from the location.

Gee surprise, KO ever so sweetly wants Clinton to do a gracious withdrawal and Andrea simpers in agreement with him ... gag a maggot.

I hope we can all agree it is pretty annoying to see Kiki and Jamal going at it. Bad "casting" on CNN's part.

(But I am sure the Clintonites enjoy it because sometimes Jamal is about effective as Alan Colmes.)

ok what's happening. Spin or truth.

could be planed that way

place still did not look full yet

I actually like Ed Rendell. Always have. I know he's on the other side, but I just can't help but like him. He's a Democrats Democrat and I think he'll fight for Hillary, but give a 100% effort for Obama when he wins.

lisa does look down

Jeez. I hope you Clintonites don't have a "file" on me...

Talk about hardball (or some would say "old school politics".)

No wonder why Obama has not won over all of the major hip-hop artists yet....the Clintons are living the "thug life"!!

(I thought I heard Jay-Z was supporting Clinton awhile back - I need to get an update on that one.)

why no numbers at all, this is crazy

The ones I really like are Begala and Brazille. They are both thoughtful and intelligent.

i can't tell by Paul's face what is going on yet.

Obama is the one who listens to JAY Z. He can even quote the lyrics to the songs: 99 problems .. brush off.

Correction...

I found another article that said most Touch Screen machines had been decertified and Optical Scan machines had been bought to replace them.

There are still two counties I believe whose Touch Screen machines will still be used and were not ones included in the decertification.

I still don't remember which counties those were though.

God Bless.

Craig:

"i appear to be out of fashion"

Intelligence is out these days. You may want to "dumb it down" a little.

Some of the pundits seem to enjoy making the same arguments over and over again - and don't like when guests go off the script.

msnbc has her pretty much dead tonight. Better coverage on CNN

I hope whoever "philly friends" is, pops in with first hand reports so we don't have to depend on the ax grinders at the networks.

No numbers on the S of S site yet. They must be sending them in overland via stagecoach.

MSNBC is now making a joke of this.

This may be the end of the long and winding road for Hillary. I mean really, why can't they report results, they do not need to "call It " ? Just show some results.

Iceberg ahead as they go to break. Come on! this is bush league coverage.

If msnbc isnt showing results, it's because they dont like them.........

finally clinton leads but they are calling it to early instead of to close

"Bill Bennet just made a good point, why doesn't Obama hold a press conference and deal with all of this and get it out on the table."

Because no one looks good under cross examination. He made a speech called "A More Perfect Union" after the race issue came up. Because it is a "real issue" for this Country.

What is going to be the title of this press conference - Obama defends himself against "guilt by association".

Gimme a freaking break. If we had the same "press conference" for the Clintons it would look like the last episode of Seinfeld.

cnn got numbers running at the bottom

Is any network showing results? I am away from my Tv

Fox says they don't have any raw numbers at all yet. They said that they suspect a trend of Obama doing better in the Exit Polling than he did in the actual vote. Not promising for Hillary any way you cut it.

Is any network showing results? I am away from my Tv

67 - 33 1600 to 800

okay thanks....

you guys are the best

btw, since we are waiting for more results, why isn't the word " Okay " ok? It is always highlighted as incorrect spelling.

And what did o. k. mean or represent?

I am sure one of you know...

Those CNN are still exit poll numbers. There are no official reported totals yet.

Thanks Jamie.

these are real results not exit numbers

OK
1839, only survivor of a slang fad in Boston and New York c.1838-9 for abbreviations of common phrases with deliberate, jocular misspellings (cf. K.G. for "no go," as if spelled "know go"); in this case, "oll korrect." Further popularized by use as an election slogan by the O.K. Club, New York boosters of Democratic president Martin Van Buren's 1840 re-election bid, in allusion to his nickname Old Kinderhook, from his birth in the N.Y. village of Kinderhook. Van Buren lost, the word stuck, in part because it filled a need for a quick way to write an approval on a document, bill, etc. The noun is first attested 1841; the verb 1888. Spelled out as okeh, 1919, by Woodrow Wilson, on assumption that it represented Choctaw okeh "it is so" (a theory which lacks historical documentation); this was ousted quickly by okay after the appearance of that form in 1929. Okey-doke is student slang first attested 1932.

exit is saying it's close

MSnbc has some numbers up now

65% to 35%

It's almost 1 hr now, watch just before 9 they wil call it before american idol.

I spent much of the day calling Pennsylvania voters. for Hillary. They are a very friendly bunch of people. Many carried on nice conversations. It was a really good time and I am a person who hates telephoning.

Good Lord that Harold Ford has gorgeous eyes. I could stare into those things all night long...

Paul is all smiles now.

sturgeone ,
I am glad I asked, thank you for that tid-bit. Whatever a tid-bit is... : )

now that's funny.......scarbro says that obama can balance losing blue collar worker votes to hillary by picking up republicans......\

LOL

confucious say: woman who goes to man's apartment for lunch gets tid-bit.

msnbc calls it for Hill

73% 26% on S of S Site

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/

Sorry I'm so late, gang. I've been watching more important things -- Magic-Raptors, Round 1, Game 2 of the NBA playoffs. Magic up by a bucket at halftime.

So...is there some sort of election in Pennsylvania tonite?

Coming in really slow. Only 59 out of 9211 districts reporting.

Given Hillary's Pennsylvania win to add to all the other major state wins she's racked up, I'm sure this race would be over right now if we were playing by the same rules that got McCain nominated.

Does anyone have a handy-dandy chart that could show us what the delegate count would be at this point if the Dems had winner-take-all rules, sted of the pretzel logic that currently dictates delegate selection?

Obviously it's just an academic exercise. But still.

I hope she kicks his ___ !

But that is just a personal opinion on my part.

Congrats to the Clintonites. Now go give her some money. The website: www.IpaidMarkPenn4mil.com

I'm about to give Barack another $100. And I just got my cool t-shirt!

cbs just called it for Hillary

Poor Keith Olberman..doesn't iknow how to handle his network declaring Hillary the winner..

Olberman to Brokaw: "Tom.....isnt there some way we can say Hillary is losing..........Think, man, Think."

Congrats Clinton Country!

show us your "cool T-shirt"

at least they have Tom to keep him in line

howard is spinning

Bye Bye......be sure you send it to

imajerk.com

They are just keeping it real. Until we see +200K votes - the "victory" will be debated.

It's the tan one with Obama's face on it. I still have 1500 dollars to contribute to the campaign.

The Republican numbers are fun. Ron Paul 15%, Mike Huckabee 12%, and John McCain 72%

bye bye......send away.....after all, "a fool and his money make some party."

Does anyone else think the nearly full hour of "it's too close to call" chatter by pro-Obama pundits tonite, allowing nearly a full hour of gloom, doom hand-wringing and more "Hillary should drop out immediately" chatter might maybe just have had the effect of pushing more superdelegates to Obama -- no matter even if the final margin tonight ends up meeting everyone's initial expectations?

If so, MSNBC should lose it's broadcast license.

Why can't these dumbasses just cover the news, instead of always trying to predict it and shape it?

Lardman......they do as they are told?

Lard Dear

Here is a TPM with some numbers as of February. Clinton would be winning.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/hillary_would_have_benefitted.php

well, if nothing else, Craig gets to go to a nice party........

John King does a very good job on CNN.

I understand why the networks waited to declare because there were absolutely no raw votes for a very long time.

If you spent 3 minutes looking at the CNN Exit Polls the final result was quite clear..

CNN is very good...I turn to MSNBC for a little comic relief..

Yeah, you're right Sturg. What was I thinking? Obama drives ratings in the most desireable demographic so we need to keep his candidacy alive until November when McCain beats him. I forgot.

Hey Sturgeone,

I'm guessing that the Clintonites have been partying it up! I wonder if they're checking couches for coins?

Thanks Jamie. It's amazing. I started such a chart back about then and saw she'd be ahead...but now after Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania...she'd be totally blowing him away.

"The Republican numbers are fun. Ron Paul 15%, Mike Huckabee 12%, and John McCain 72%"

McCain can't "close the deal" - those guys aren't even running!!

(btw, Obama gets pretty much all of Paul's 15% and could take half of the Huck's votes. How many do you think HRC would get?)

bye bye........quick......turn to msnbc and Terry McAulliffe will answer that one............

Okay. Second half beckons. Back to basketball.
I hope by just logging in here tonight, I brought good luck to Hillary.

Well the way to stop MSnbc is to boycott them, but additionally, you need to watch another competing channel 24/7. This will deplete their ratings and drive overs up.

I have stopped watching unless there is an "event. "

overs = others

Harold Ford is back on MSNBC...

Poor Russert. He looks like someone slipped a balut into his egg-drop soup.

warren said:
(btw, Obama gets pretty much all of Paul's 15% and could take half of the Huck's votes. How many do you think HRC would get?)

Dont you get tired of pulling this stuff out from down below?

sturg:

You Clintonites too often believe dismissing someone is an adequate response.

(And I think you have fooled yourself into somehow believing it is "civil")

Craig gets to go to a nice party........ I hope he doesn't have too good a time.

Watch Out For That Tree

http://www.georgeofthejungle.tv/

warren......I'm not one of the civil ones......and I'm not dismissing you.....just your goofy "facts"......
and Im not "you people" .......im Me People.
by the way.

I'm not you people either. He said it I didn't. I'm a me people as well. Individualism are us.

Now...on to North Carolina and Indiana.

When does Chris Matthews get his check from theObama campaign??

HILLARY WON!!

MSNBC is trying so hard to break the spirit of Clinton supporters tonight.
Olbermann and Matthews are desperate to spin Hillary's win somehow into a win for Obama. It's amazing.

Obama outspent Clinton 3 to 1 and still he couldn't win in PA.

What does that tell us?

I flipped over there for a minute. Poor Timmy was apoplectic, KO was dismal, and tweety bird could barely spit. They have given up all pretense of being objective in any possible way as they whine about Clinton being tenacious.

Gosh darn it, the little girl just won't lay down and enjoy it while the guys have their way.

"I'm not one of the civil ones"

So what - you Clintonites think you can have 2-3 people kicking a hornet's nest and then you can ALL start complaining when one of you get bitten by Obama supporters.

Just trying to keep the record somewhat straight.

Try watching Fox News - Rove gives a good analysis.

HILLARY WON!!

MSNBC is trying so hard to break the spirit of Clinton supporters tonight.
Olbermann and Matthews are desperate to spin Hillary's win somehow into a win for Obama. It's amazing.

Obama outspent Clinton 3 to 1 and still he couldn't win in PA.

What does that tell us?

warren......who's being bitten tonight, eh?

Recommendation for MSNBC on air talent

prof marcia...

It tells us that she couldn't hold on to her 20 point lead and he brought it down to 6 to 10 points and maybe less.

And to your previous comments touting that Nazi Treasonous Traitor Karl Rove talking points that the Democrats should listen to I find offensive. Rove leaked to Robert Novak another Traitor not only a undercover NOC spy, but also her front company Brewster Jennings and Associates.

Unless you support Nazi policies don't put Rove garbage out and say Democrats should listen to it.

God Bless

and here you are with another of your self-serving goofy-ass "facts":

So what - you Clintonites think you can have 2-3 people kicking a hornet's nest and then you can ALL start complaining when one of you get bitten by Obama supporters.

lol

I think I have a sword they can borrow.

Right GORDO...

Listen to a Nazi Traitor your BFF Karl Rove.

reminds me of that old clown who pulled the link sausages out of his overcoat for ten minutes or so back on ed sullivan......lol

Waiting for the final numbers. I think it well be within 9%. Not what she needed!

* kicks the can*

Watch the counties that are using Touch Screens is all I have to say.

God Bless.

The votes are coming in on a regular basis
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#PA

But not on MSNBC where they are still trying to figure out how to spin the Obama defeat into victory.

anon-paranoid,

I think you are becoming paranoid. I was only commenting on what Craig
Crawford wrote. Do you even read Mr. Crawford's posts? Go back to his
video about two days ago. Craig is the one who suggested Karl Rove
should be examined. I was agreeing with Craig. Our point is that
Karl Rove is as I stated an "evil genius." He can give us an insight into
how Republicans operate. Why do you think Hilter is studied? He is
examined because we can learn how these people think in order to
fight them. Get it?

Hillary is a winner!!

MSNBC is clinging to any pathetic attack they can muster to
dampen the excitement for Hiilary tonight.

Poor Chris and Keith. They look so desperate.

On the front page of all major newspapers for April 23 is a picture of Hillary
declaring she won PA.

Karl Rove is a FAR SUPERIOR political analyst than Tony Snow (I know Tony was admitted to the hospital so I don't want to be too harsh). But, on CNN last night Tony did his usual tit for tat with Dee Dee Myers. Typical. Boring. Snarky. Karl Rove, on the other hand, is cool, calm and collected. He breaks everything down by demographic—who is here. Who is there. Who will go where. If this guy has a price, the Democrats should pay to convert him to our team.

(And I am aware that Rove is the devil...just saying...everybody has a price.)

After tonight, how can anyone fall for BHO's line that he is a "uniter?" Tonight he is a loser. No wonder he is afraid of any more debates.

can rove still work from a jail cell?

You can see Sen. Obama's problem by looking at the age demographics. All those excited college students and yuppies must have had something more important to do today.

69% over 45
19% 30 - 44
12% 18 - 29

Roland Martin just said that Obama needs to go back to doing "policy." Huh? Obama needs to go back to Hope. When he does policy it is a snoozefest. Seriously. People looking at their watches. He won the states he won not by policy but by rhetoric. An agent of change. I cannot believe how these pundits rewrite history. I saw Obama several times in Iowa. He did not do policy in Iowa. Remember? That was the big complaint!

prof marcia...

Yes I do. Rove studied HItler very well and every branch or our government has been infected with Hitler's policies.

We are a Fascist country now and the media for the most part is nothing but Fascist propaganda. The House, Senate, Judiciary, DOJ, DOD and every other department is has been corrupted so much that I still think we may not have elections come November.

We even have more proof now that with John Yoo's, David Addington and other legal minds gave the legal reasoning for the Principles of Der Fuhrer Adolph Bush met regularly in the White House and established a Torture Program with the full knowledge of Bush.

They are all War Criminals and under the MCA of 2006 the insane Dictator Fuhrer Bush can label anyone and I do mean anyone a Enemy Combatant and have them arrest and held indefinitely with the right to a lawyer or court hearing. Remember they stripped Habeas Corpus out of the Constitution for anyone labeled an Enemy Combatant by the so called President who at this time is Fuhrer Bush.

That means that if we have elections than the next President can label the whole previous administration Enemy Combatants and lock them up.

Do you really believe that he would let someone else have the power to arrest any of them? I think not.

And Craig surprised me even mentioning Rove as he knows how strongly I feel about the evil that permeates our country by these Traitors.

Craig has every right to his opinion and thoughts, bought I was deeply surprised to see him bring up Rove in the context that he did.

I still say find out which counties are using the Touch Screens and see where that vote goes.

God Bless.

"Obama outspent Clinton 3 to 1 and still he couldn't win in PA.

What does that tell us?"

It tells you that Clinton has a ton of loyal supporters all over the Country that will not vote for Obama until HRC gives a concession speech.

Clinton won a state "tailor-made" for her. Obama has won states tailor made for him by 20-25%.

And the fact that he closed the margin showed that he is able to increase his base.

That is the key people - Obama is still growing his base - while Clinton is fighting tooth and nail to hold onto hers.

prof marcia...

Yes I do. Rove studied HItler very well and every branch or our government has been infected with Hitler's policies.

We are a Fascist country now and the media for the most part is nothing but Fascist propaganda. The House, Senate, Judiciary, DOJ, DOD and every other department is has been corrupted so much that I still think we may not have elections come November.

We even have more proof now that with John Yoo's, David Addington and other legal minds gave the legal reasoning for the Principles of Der Fuhrer Adolph Bush met regularly in the White House and established a Torture Program with the full knowledge of Bush.

They are all War Criminals and under the MCA of 2006 the insane Dictator Fuhrer Bush can label anyone and I do mean anyone a Enemy Combatant and have them arrest and held indefinitely with the right to a lawyer or court hearing. Remember they stripped Habeas Corpus out of the Constitution for anyone labeled an Enemy Combatant by the so called President who at this time is Fuhrer Bush.

That means that if we have elections than the next President can label the whole previous administration Enemy Combatants and lock them up.

Do you really believe that he would let someone else have the power to arrest any of them? I think not.

And Craig surprised me even mentioning Rove as he knows how strongly I feel about the evil that permeates our country by these Traitors.

Craig has every right to his opinion and thoughts, bought I was deeply surprised to see him bring up Rove in the context that he did.

I still say find out which counties are using the Touch Screens and see where that vote goes.

God Bless.

yes.....obama laid 'em in the aisles in SC and Mississippi, for instance.......

Jamie:

PA is #2 in terms of older voters. So this another unique aspect of PA that the Clintons will ignore as they try to claim that PA speaks for all of America.

Now, Obama is going to win North Carolina by at least ten percent. After that, watch as Obama crush her in Indiana. And then, it'll be all over but the shouting.

Ally...

Your right Ally and that is how Hitler managed to take over Germany. Just like the Republicans have taken over our country using Hilter's Nazi tactics.

Corporate Fascism all the way back to Prescott Bush helping finance Hitler's rise to power and his military.

God Bless.

Did a clickover to MSNBC and now Matthews is doing the racist line. "These voters made up their minds how they wanted to vote in 1957".

What a total ass. You can't vote for Hillary because you actually like Hillary. You can only vote for her if in your heart of heart you hate black folks.

Hillary wins PA & as naturally msnbc must undercut her victory.

msnbc lead---NBC news: Clionton wins Pennsylvania--now awaiting final margin of victory. They must depress her numbers.

While CNN & FOX News lead is Hillary Clinton wins PA waiting for Clinton & Obama to address their supporters

They can spin it anyway they want, Obama outspent
her 3 to 1, he should have won it outright & he failed.

Clinton split the youth vote in PA
Obama isn't holding on to his base
and according to reports is only doing as well because of Republicans who crossed registered to vote in the primary but have no intention of voting for him in the fall

Bill Meck, a resident of a Philadelphia suburb, remarked that after 41 years of voting Republican, he recently registered with the Democratic party.

.....county voter registration officials in central Pennsylvania told ABCNews.com that many new registrants spoke openly about changing their party affiliation to give McCain "a better shot in November."

Jamie:

"What a total ass. You can't vote for Hillary because you actually like Hillary."

This is the problem with the "can't close the deal" argument. It implicitly says there is something wrong with Obama - as opposed to something being right with Clinton.

I will say it till I am blue in the face - and this is based on battling with you people for months - Clinton supporters will NOT vote for anyone else as long as she is still in the race.

She needs to drop the "Day One". At least put some variety ... "now", "immediately", "once innaugurated" .. whatever.

Day one is starting to sound way too phony.

Or Coreen, Clinton had a twenty something point lead and lost it. Hey, congrats to Hillary. These are the dying embers of her campaign. Now the primaries come fast and furious. She'll lose NC big, lose Indiana, then when the hillbilly vote in Kentucky and WV, lose Oregon, SD and Montana, and then win PR. After that, she'll still be behind in every way. And then it'll be all over.

And I still credit Mary Matlin for raising the "can't close the deal" argument on T. Russert's Sat. show months ago. (unless someone can point to someone using it earlier)

And it has worked for the GOP like a charm.

HRC never ceases to amaze me. She should get the credit she so well deserves.

were it me, I'd start on Day 3.

Jamie: So, by Tweety's logic, a man who doesn't vote for HIllary is sexist, right?

Wow, now she's begging for cash. Okay, enough about all this. What about the final popular vote. If Craig's argument is correct, then she's going to fall WAY short of the 200,000 mark.

"Bye Bye" joins the Ass-Facts Brigade (Prediction Division)

She'll lose NC big, lose Indiana, then when the hillbilly vote in Kentucky and WV, lose Oregon, SD and Montana, and then win PR. After that, she'll still be behind in every way. And then it'll be all over

If she's so sure of winning than why don't she spend her own money to finance her campaign like Mitt Romney did instead of asking the American people to finance it.

It seems to me that Obama isn't begging for money from the American people, but she has no trouble begging for it.

If she's so sure she's the one than let her spend her own money.

Oh that's right she would rather use the elderlies money, you know who I mean, the ones who are having trouble paying for there prescriptions, rent and food. The items that are vital for their survival.

What a great person she is.

God Bless.

Blonde who,

What credit? Running as the presumptive nominee and then losing the race? Being behind? Being in debt? Picking advisors who undercut her policies? Uh...having a husband who must suck on his foot because it's always in his mouth? Is that the credit?

"Clinton supporters will NOT vote for anyone else as long as she is still in the race."

Why in the world should we? She is our candidate. As long as she is in the race, she is the candidate we are supporting.

Would you expect the Obama folks to switch their support as long as he is in the race?

Where's John Murtha's double digit win???

Here's the real mark--she's getting close to 20-pct more votes than he is, right now, tonight.

Is Chester county one of the counties that are using the Touch Screens?

God Bless.

Huh? That must be Clinton math.

BBB

You sound bitter and short sighted. She has had many accomplishments. Give it up for the night...she won. And she can win in the large populated states...who are you to take that away from her? You are just one voter. Just like me. Take the blinders off because there is not a persuasive argument your guy can make. The voters have spoken. Not the superdelegates.

It's a good night, Hillary will likely win by double digits, we will see what the upcoming primaries unfold, as for now Hillary's huge victory in Pennsylvania will have to at the very least put a freeze on super-delegates and give them pause.

I always made the argument that Hillary would be the stronger candidate against McCain in November and I still stand by that now. Ms. O'Donnell in Exit polling said and I am not sure I heard this correctly but 52% of people in Pennsylvania that voted for Hillary will not vote for Obama, if that is true has to scare super-delegates which many are elected officials and do not want to lose their seats or the gains they made in 2006.

I have argued and still make the argument that the Obama supporters, more specifically the extreme far left wingnut moveon.org are hurting the Democratic party. I hope that the greater majority centrists of our party will prevail and unite our party and strengthen it so we can be better able to defeat the Republicans in November 2008.

--Heather

834-707=124
124/707=15.5%

actually, that's 17.5%

This is a great night!!!

My district convention is going to be very enjoyable this week. For the first time since I have been on the Credentials Committee we will only be seating designated alternates if they were elected as an alternate at their county conventions. This is a rule we have never had to put into place before because we usually have a nominee by this time in the process.

I am working closely with the Clinton Campaign to make sure they are abreast of all the rules and that they have been notified of all our committee meetings so they can send an observer. I wonder if the Obama campaign will try to stack the deck with unelected alternates? I don't know if they know about the rule. It could get interesting.

Jamie:

"Would you expect the Obama folks to switch their support as long as he is in the race?"

I don't.

But that is the fallacy to all these arguments. That there is something wrong with either Barack or Hillary because they "can't close the deal" or deliver a "knock out blow".

These are two historical candidates that have been setting records for turn-out, money and participation all over America.

And I don't like to see arguments that twist what is actually going on and make major charges such as:

-Voters are racist
-Voters are sexist
-Either Obama or Hillary will lose to McCain

Based on pure innuendo, speculation and exit polls!!

We all realize there are racists and sexists - but most of them are in the GOP - and most voters are voting FOR Obama or Hillary - not against the other candidate (despite what we all say in order to try and crush the spirit of our so-called opponents).

(And just made worse by the 24/7 news media that is always looking for the most "provacative" story line.)

Correction it will be most likely be 10% margin of victory lol the Obama supporters! A desperate lot.

--Heather

One thing for certain, BHO will need his money as he pays a lot more for a vote than HRC. Maybe she will be a better economic leader. She gets a lot more for a buck than him and she isn't afraid to ask for the money.

Gracious just isn't a word the Obamaniacs understand.

Dana Milbank finds the super duper double digits or NUTTIN' (L Sign! Loser! Loser!) very stupid.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/22/AR2008042202848.html?hpid%3Dtopnews%26sid%3DST2008042http://www.http://www.washingtonpost.com:80/ac2/wp-dyn?node=admin/registration/register&sub=AR

Still about 25% of the votes to be counted, remains to
be seen what the total vote count will be.

Whatever, "she's still standing"!

Heather- Bobby Abreau just hit a grand slam 6-3.
Bottom of the 7th.

Wow that was a powerful speech. The energy in the room must have been incredible. Can't wait to hear Craig's stories about his night.

"as for now Hillary's huge victory in Pennsylvania" ROFLMAO

"am not sure I heard this correctly but 52% of people in Pennsylvania that voted for Hillary will not vote for Obama, "

Must be all the fair weather democrats, might as well be Republican in my book.

Ben Smith has one of the more interesting numbers of the last ten primaries.

"The exit poll of Pennsylvania Republican voters — the hard core that shows up in a meaningless primary — has only 73 percent voting for John McCain in November."

Warren,

I agree with you. I try not to attack Sen. Obama. Now some of his supporters are another matter.

The sexist argument is really only Tweety and crowd and that is only because they are so droolingly obvious about the disdain for a mere female daring to seek the Presidency.

Okay, right now CNN is showing her 901k, him 757k
901-757=144
144/757=19% more votes

Another amazing contrast between CNN and MSNBC.

MSNBC has been omitting the raw vote totals all night from it's on-screen rolling tallies, basically deflecting attention from the popular vote gains Hillary is making.

With 75 percent in, CNN is showing HRC with about a 145,000 vote lead. That should translate into just under 200,000 popular votes at the end of the night, should the 8 point margin or something near it hold.

Amazing, shoddy omission by MSNBC in its running coverage.

Obama gave congrats to HRC and said she ran a "terrific race"

Blonde wino...

So after 21 debates how many more debates do you think there should be?

10, 15, 21 more?

Should this be the new standard for all Presidential election?

31, 36 or 42 debates?

How many is enough and how many is not enough?

Please let us Obama supporters know so we can use that number in the 2021 election.

That is if we have any more elections, including one this year.

God Bless.

Also...jumping back and forth between post-speech analysis:

CNN, Gergen & Co: Hillary's speech was very positive, gracious and she wisely did not attack Obama because she knows there is still a long fight ahead.

MSNBC, Matthews, Olbermann & Co: Hillary's speech was negative, mocking and impolite, since she didn't honor the time-tested tradition of letting the loser go first, and because she used a slogan that plays off of "Yes We Can." Then Olbermann actually had the balls to say "this primary may well not end tonight, if current margins hold." As phukking if.

It's now at a 10% lead with 78% reporting. I might make my 13 yet. ☺

And the crowd booed Warren.

AP

I love the debates...the last one on ABC did get a good share of viewers (still didn't beat American Idol). It is not a need, but great show for November. HRC and BHO are the yin and the yang of this country. If the dems want to win, we need to realize that.

Should have read 2012 and not 2021.

God Bless.

Jamie...if it holds at 10 percent, that should shoot the net popular vote gain over 200,000 for sure.

Sen. Obama is being very gracious, but he just echoed the "two wars, a country in recession, and a planet in peril" ... These two might as well be peas in a pod for the all the differences.

On Fox News:

Frank Luntz said that this was the best speech Hillary has given - the choice of words and delivery were great.

According to Pat Caddell, the exit polls are not worth much - people are lying. He has been saying that there was a hidden anti - Obama vote.

Dear Coreen:

((((((((Coreen )))))))))) yes Bobby has been hot early on, I hope the other slumping Yankee bats wake up!

Its a great doubleheader a Yankee/ Hillary victory night if the Yankees can hold on, right now Chicago White Sox have the tying run at the plate.

--Heather

A horse race?

Neck 'n neck?

By a nose?

tt

Exit polls, schmexit polls.

Once the actual votes started rolling in tonight, Tim Russert looked like a wide-eyed hound in heat who'd just had a bucket of ice cold water poured on his hard-on.

Sorry for the crude, barnyard imagery. But it fits.

Nah, no more debates. The press is out of questions. Let the candidates take their messages directly to the voter.

On a serious note, and this is not to denigrate the Clinton win, but have you noticed how fast we forget about the past primary/caucus and move on to the next one. It's like when the parade comes into town and leaves nothing but paper cups and trash on the street. It moves on and the memory fades. I swear that by Saturday, Pennsylvania will fade from memory as the pundits talk about why Billary can't win in NC or raise funds.

LL,

I posted a story of an Olbermann encounter over the weekend.

He had begun running a false story about a friend of mine, calling her The Fabulist Bride. I pulled together information from her alma maters which proved she had all her academic degrees and Lexus-Nexus articles about her outstanding research and practice involving autistic children, etc.

Two assistants assured me that both Olbermann and his producer were given the material and had read it.

And he continued with the story for the balance of the week.

Which did a lot of damage to the practice which had helped and was helping so many families.

Eventually I was at MSNBC doing some consulting work... and I waited until I could question him. He didn't care. However, he did yell and scream. (Always a good sign of a Rumplestiltskin moment, don't you think?)

So what did I tell him as his temper tantrumed? "You're lucky you're hear. 'Cause you KNOW you wouldn't last 8 weeks on Comedy Central!"

Oh, boy. He's not a newsman but he plays one on TV.

That makes him one OF (not IN) a million.

Sorry, C-Bob.

I ask this before with out receiving a reply. Is Chester County one of the counties that is using Touch Screen voting machines. The hackable voting machines.

God Bless.

9/11...yes, I saw that post a few days ago and enjoyed it and was amazed by it. Thanks for sharing it.

"Bush: We are not in a recession ,ehhh ...slow down!"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kU789SSNsHk

What plant is he on?

OY

tt

Happy days are here again by The Lewis Trio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l2iHk4NEqI

Jack

Chester County is being reported
not enough to make a difference for the big ole loser
Just click on the CNN map dickhead

Obama did not do as well in Phila as he said he would and Chester County isn't going to make up for the other counties in the state.

Thank you to those who have supported Hillary and made this solid victory possible.

I just sent a contribution to hillaryclinton.com

Back to work on the Oregon campaign tomorrow.

Is Mr Obama giving a concession speech??

Posted by: Bye Bye Billary

On a serious note, and this is not to denigrate the Clinton win, but have you noticed how fast we forget about the past primary/caucus and move on to the next one. It's like when the parade comes into town and leaves nothing but paper cups and trash on the street. It moves on and the memory fades. I swear that by Saturday, Pennsylvania will fade from memory as the pundits talk about why Billary can't win in NC or raise funds.

===========================================================

I wonder if Mr Bye Bye would have said that had Obama won?

--Heather

Poor Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFLwJpW6cDw

Chester just started coming in. 10% reporting so far.

He just said "Status Crow"

Losers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KynpC1e9I9E

Off topic for a moment...

I spoke to Ginger's Doctor tonight and she told me that Ginger was doing better. She said that Ginger was able to walk a little and use a litter box, however she still wasn't eating.

The fluid in her chest is leaking from her heart and she shows some signs of Kidney problems.

I will be going to the hospital in the morning to see Ginger. I will get there around 9:30 am and spend a half hour with her before seeing the Doctor at which time I will have to make the decision as to whether to put her to sleep or bring her home to die.

The Doctor said she may last two months, but one thing is definite, she is going to die. The question is whether to let her die at home or have her put to sleep.

I am torn over both and I will have to see her before I can make that final decision.

So thank all of you who have offered and voiced your concerns over Ginger's illness.

God Bless.

I am tired of these same ole boring lines. His speeches are so much gloom and doom they don't give me hope.

sturge,

That's gotta be Jay-Z, too.

Very powerful speech tonight by Obama.

Dear AP:
I am so glad and relieved that Ginger is recovering, my heart, prayers and love go out to you and Ginger. I know what it is like, I have six "Babies" of my own.

We may have our political differences but I never allow that to interfere with my civility, humanity or compassion toward another in need of love and prayers and mine are with you AP.
May God Bless you and yours.

Sincerely,
Heather

So far only about 100 complaints.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/04/22/politics/horserace/entry4035618.shtml

Night all. With a 1 point win by the Magic over Toronto, and an even bigger win by Hillary over Obama...I couldn't ask for more.

Congrats to all the Hillary supporters...

And cheers to all the Obama supporters. It was a good fight in Pennsylvania. Now on to the next one!

anon,
I think you will know when you see Ginger what she wants you to do for her. I had a cat like that. She was in Kidney failure for 2 years and I even gave her fluids under the skin twice a week for several months. Several times I thought she was going to die and rushed her to the Vet only to have them call me a few hours later to pick her up because she was perky again. I just knew she wanted to die at home so I honored her wishes. Of course she never seemed to be in any pain and only a little discomfort. If she was suffering I would have had her relieved of that suffering. I will be thinking about you and Ginger tomorrow. I know you will make the right decision for both of you.

Off to bed...night all.

I'm looking forward to it.

Sleep well.

10:57 PM TPM post...

Remaining Precincts #2

As we noted in the last update, the remaining precincts are mainly in the Philly suburbs where Obama has done well tonight. And that suggests that the margin could tighten a little bit in Obama's direction. But that was the case an hour ago. And Hillary's margin has actually slightly crept up since then -- from around 8% to 10%.

--Josh Marshall

AP

It is so hard to part with our fur family members but you want her to leave as peacefully as possible. At least if you select the time, you can hold her.

Hugs to you and Ginger.

Heather...

Thank you, but she is not recovering if you reread what I wrote.

She is going to die. The way she dies is do I have them put her to sleep or bring her home knowing she has two months or less before she dies from congestive heart failure.

But thank you for your kind words.

God Bless.

anon-paranoid----------------

Sorry about Ginger.

I can understand what you are going through - over the years, I have given a home to or found homes for almost 50 stray cats.

I'd prefer to play out my string at home among familiar things.........

Dear AP
I forgot to add prayer is powerful, it has been for me one of my "Babies" was knocking on death's door, I prayed and Prayed very hard asking for Jesus' intervention to save her life somehow God Blessed her and she made a recovery nothing short of miraculous.

It may be easily tempting to have Ginger "put to sleep" we can say to easily say well its to ease their or our suffering or both. I believe God is a God of life and and that if our suffering [including my own] is for the greater Glory of God so be it ...at the end for the faithful there will be unity of our loved ones in Christ Jesus, I say it I believe it and as a Catholic I must live it

--Heather

GORDO...

I know we have very different political differences and I usually get very frustrated when you bring up Republican talking points, however I do appreciate your thoughtful comments on Ginger.

God Bless.

anon...

Just caught up on the list and read more about your Ginger. Thank you for keeping us up to date on what's happening with her...and with you.

I don't think any of us can give you better advice than what Zoey had to say. Let Ginger be your guide. The love you feel for her, and that she feels for you, will get you both through this.

I'll be thinking of you both.

Hillary is going to be on Morning Joe tomorrow.....
hmmmmm...not sure if I'd make that apperance...

Good Night All

I'll look forward to the recorded version of Craig's commentary tomorrow.

AP

I was with both of my cats when they passed...it was so difficult for me, but they needed me at the end of their nine lives. I was also with both of my parents when they died. I never thought I would ever be strong enough to withstand the horror of life ending. But, I know in my heart it is better to be with a life at its end -- supportive. My Mother was so scared to die. I can only imagine how terrified my cats were, but I was with them....loving them to the end.

Anon-
Having recently experienced the same difficult decision, I really feel for you and Ginger....but Zoey is right...let Ginger guide you...I did and it's the only way I got through it.
All the best to you both.
~Gidget

zoey, Jamie, sturgeone, Heather...

I will make my decision after I look into her eyes and see what she tells me. Then I will know what Ginger wants and that's what I'll base my final decision on.

Her heart walls are thin and can not support her like she needs to have it do.

I have had to put a few of my pets to sleep over the years and believe me it is not easy. I had a cat who's lungs where the size of walnuts and it was one of the worst decisions I ever had to make, but it would have been selfish to not do it.

If Ginger seems like she wants to come home than I'll bring her home and hope when she passes on that's it peacefully and she don't suffer. If she seems to be wanting to rest peacefully and not prolong the inevitable than I will have her put to sleep.

It all depends what she tells me when I see her.

Thank you all once again for your thoughts and prayers for Ginger.

Good night and ...

God Bless.

harborwoman...

Thank you and...

God Bless.

Nice work Craig -- 200,000 vote uptick and a 55-45 margin of victory. Yes, I saw your prediction of 54-46, which might just be the final margin once the votes are all in. No wonder every one around here admires your political analyses. Well Done!

Any predictions on Indiana and North Carolina? Just kidding!

I suppose being a woman I cannot help analyzing the dressing of other women, in this case Norah O'Donnell, I'm trying not to be critical but Norah looks more like she is dressed for a date with a black modified mini dress and a black choker necklace.

It's just not the professional power dressing most professional working women wear these days, just my opinion, suffice to say she does look pretty and the outfit looks nice on her

--Heather

To all of you who have been supportive in Gingers time of need I sincerely thank you.

I'll update everyone tomorrow as I now need to hit the sack and prepare myself for tomorrow.

Take care all and...

God Bless.

Howard Fineman predicts Elizabeth Edwards will endorse HRC in No Carolina.

AP

Zoey, Blonde wino & the others have offered good thoughts--I too, believe you will know what is best for Ginger & you when you have the chance to see & hold her.

I have lived with many cats (only one right now) & I have found that at least for me, I knew when it was time to let go and as blonde wino said, although difficult I needed to be with them, holding, talking to them until they were gone.

Clinton campaign sez $2.5 million raised since the winning in double digits the PA race.

Heather:

I noticed Norah's outfit myself ; )

Warren-
Probably not for the same reasons as Heather! : )

As a native of Pennsylvania, I think the message the Pennsylvania democrats want to send is not that they are against BHO, but they do not believe HRC should quit the race. It is a message for the super delegates. Which reminds me, I need to send another email to my super delegate governor...reminding him he is still going against the grain of his New Mexican peeps.

And in my heart, I still long for that dream team (with woman on top, of course). To me it means dems will be in power for sixteen years. Now that is a wonderful thought on which to end a lovely evening.

Blonde-
It was a lovely evening, wasn't it?
On to NC....and please, an Edwards endorsement. John AND Elizabeth.
~G

HA! I'm with you , Blonde....I think a floor fight would be the fairiest way to settle this and in a weird way, unify the party....
And then, kick McCain's butt.
~G

I like how you think, Gidget.

Blonde-
forget to send that missive to Bill R....he needs a wake up call.
~G

A shave and a wake-up call.

Blonde...some how the "Don't" got cut off my last message...weird .Looks like the lead is going to hold at 55/45...and a little over 200,000 votes....Craig was right on....
~G

Ok everyone,

That means I have to donate $200 or $ 220 now to the HRC campaign.

Happy to do that!

Can anyone tell me the final tally, last time I checked the dutch media the difference was hovering between 10 and 11 %

To all HRC supporters a warm HRC hug to you guys.

Now,
let us move the caravan to Indiana and North Carolina......You know, an election cannot be bought. You have to actually work for it......

Gidget...I like this time of the night when most Obamababies are sleeping. I am awake waiting for that 3pm call. Sleep well all...it will be a great day tomorrow for the dems. I love the fact that HRC is not a lay down for the dem men of the party.

Jason-
1,230,822 54.3% HRC

1,037,420 45.7% BHO

With 98.8% of the precincts in

Great night!
~G

The pressure is on BO now to outperform HRC. He needs to win by more than 10% in both Indiana and NC, and win not only by the mass AA vote(Although the AA community didn not support him the way he anticipated in PA). Look for him to accept a debate in NC now......LMPO

He truely needs an endorsement from Edwards to get that though. If Edwards doesn´t give.....Look for HRC to win Indiana and come within 2 or 3 percent in NC.... The groundtroops of HRC are outhussling him. The HRC caravan is in full swing everyone and we are donating donating donating and donating some more.....

The new campaign slogan is set to air.......
Hillary............ is our Nominee!!!!!!!

Gidget,

Did you have a drink in my name as well???????
Hope so :))

Also more good news............

We closed the gap on populare vote with 205.000.....I mean we are well ahead to the nomination peeps...well ahead.....

Jason-
I had a whole bottle of Cristol and saluted all of the Hillary supporters on this list...you were on my list...it was great, BTW.

I'm on a call bank tomorrow for Indiana voters....wish me luck!

~G

Gidget

I was drinking Cristal tonight, too...but for a different reason!!! 8~P

I am watching the replay of the MSNBC coverage. I don't know if it is because I have had way too much to drink or the fact that I know the results, but I must say that Olbarackermann and Obamatthews seem particularly amusing tonight!!

ROTFLMDAO!!!

Good luck Widget,
Know you can deliver

Just spoke to my parents, they are so enthusiastic, they can´t sleep! LOL

Interesting,
yesterday morning I came up with idea of donating a certain amount to every percentage point difference between BO and HRC...and what do we see, the idea is all over the Hillary Clinton and Taylor Marsh websites and it is working!!!!!! Everyone is doing it...Love it...

Craig, your blog has an enormous reach bro.
Love it

Hillary.................our Nominee!

p.s.: Big salute to Oregon Democrat, Patsy, Heather, Jamie, Widget, EuroTom, UB, Vadaryl, MaryKitt, Pogo and all the HRC supporters out here. let´s eep the enthusiasm and the positive energy going......

LL-
I am really LOL....if you had watched it live, it wasn't as funny....but all's well that ends well...why were you drinking Cristol?
I promised Jason last night tha if HRC won, I was cracking one and was going to have one for him and all the C-list HRC supporters...I did...so any typo's are the result.
Happy Days!
~G

A solid ten pt lead with 99 per cent in..very impressive.

Keih Olberman was like a cartoon character tonight. CNN very good coverage despite all the partisans on the panels.

Hillary's speech was excellent.

Hillary raised 2.5 million. That's just about half of what they owe to Mark Penn. Bad money after bad. If Hillary was smart, she'd see the political landscape and go out on top.

But instead...she keep on going. Money will crush her in North Carolina. And in Indiana, look for a 53%-47% Obama win. Then the superdelegates will start dropping four at a time.

BTW, make sure to pay attention to what the SD's do over the next ten days. Watch as Obama gets around two per day. By NC, he'll be close to her in SD totals. Remember, I said it here first.

OD
I thought KO and Tim Russert looked like they were going to throw up...too good.

I'm really hoping that Oregon is closer than the MSNBC pundits were projecting tonight.

Even Tweety thought HRC gave a great speech and didn't like BHO's...who knew?
~G

I just donated $200.00 to Hillary.

Come on! Let's all donate what we can.

I'm celebrating with all of you Clintonettes tonight!

Cheers!

Did anyone notice that HRC has won three in a row (TX, OH, PA)...and more notably three very important ones?

Soldiering off to NC
Just had a peak at the scheduling for tomorrow.
HRC and Bill in full swing in NC and in Indiana....

I predict we will win Indiana by 6, and we will split NC....

Gidget..Chuck Todd is really backtracking about Oregon. In recent days he said Barack would win Oregon by the same margin she willwin Kentucky.

That was bunk...polls here showed a tenor 11 percent Obama lead while Hillary's Kentucky lead exceeds 25 pts.

The reace here as tightened and tonight Todd said that if Hillary has the money she could turn this state around. I think Mr. Todd got some feedback after his earlier comments.

Can anyone confirm this...

If Fla and Michiagn are counted, and added to the total of PA tonight, HRC is ahead in popular vote of about 96.000????????????????????????

Can someome PLEASE confirm?

This is very important.

thanks....

Jason-
HRC got 328,00 votes in Michigan
She was plus 300,00 in Florida
Tonite she got 200,000
BHO was leading (before tonight) by 700,00 so I'd saiy that with the FL and MI vote, she's ahead by about 72,000...give or take.
~G

Jason-
I was rounding...your 96,000 is very close...pardon the typo's....it's the champagne! (hic cup)

SUPER!!!!!!!!!

Thanks Widget

We need to SPREAD the word people....Spread the word!

JASON-
I'll be on the phone lines tomorrow, spreading the word...at least to Indianna ....
btw...iI love your nickname for me!
~Gidget

Great win for HRC tonight. I have no idea nor would I care to predict what will happen, but I did enjoy tonight's victory and Senator Clinton's speech.

As I said, no matter what happens, it was fun to watch Keith Obamaman, Matthews and Russert looking like they wanted to throw up. I am savoring those moments. It was amazing to watch the pathology KO employed when he said Senator Clinton used her speech to mock Obama. Let's see, enjoying one's win is now considered "mocking" the annointed one.

I have to wonder which member of the Times' editorial board wrote this morning's screed about Clinton. Sure took a page out of Obamaman's book.

Craig, you were right on the money and have proven once again that you are one of the best in the business. Sorry I forgot to give you your propers in my other post. : )

GAKaren,

I just wrote a long rebuttal to The Times editorial against Clinton via their response blog.
I was outraged by the complete lack of facts and bias against Hillary.
What's going on at The New York Times?