Craig talks about the Democratic debate and shows pictures of his tulips on "Imus in the Morning" (RFD-TV, 4/17/08)
Craig on C-SPAN
Today (Sunday, 4/20)
1:00-2:00 PM EST
By Craig Crawford | April 20, 2008 6:00 AM | Permalink | Comments (136)
Craig talks about the Democratic debate and shows pictures of his tulips on "Imus in the Morning" (RFD-TV, 4/17/08)
Craig on C-SPAN
Today (Sunday, 4/20)
1:00-2:00 PM EST
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Comments
Moi, first? Ooh, yippee.
Just taking a few moments to wait for the Starbucks stand to open, reading the Times, that sort of thing.
Everyone all right? Having fun? Good.
Posted by: pogo
| April 20, 2008 6:53 AM
Tulips for everyone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6_EAnFlv70
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 7:00 AM
Adolf Hinkle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IvPIWzQcUY
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 7:05 AM
Great picture. I really like the "One More Cow".
I would give my eye teeth to see Sen Clinton and Sen Obama just go head to head. Wouldn't have to be a debate, just a conversation. They are so close on issues, I would just like to get a real measure of the people.
Posted by: Jamie
| April 20, 2008 7:54 AM
Nice to come back to enjoyable crawford video blogs !!
hey craig why was the power out?
Does anyone have a link for Imus web site?
Posted by: Ping Pong
| April 20, 2008 8:02 AM
Morn'n all,
Jamie - if BHO and HRC went head to head it may just exaggerate the oratory skills of BHO over HRC, just another venue where he can not answer questions. It might be the final nail in the coffin for HRC.
However it could also show the strength of HRC holding on to make him answer a question – to reveal the true BHO… Which to this just to the right of middle – might be very scary.
Posted by: Ping Pong
| April 20, 2008 8:07 AM
Not even 0800 and Stinky's had me help change the sheets, and I'm now on my second load of laundry. You'd think the Chinese were coming (like in 1950).
Well, it's 25-minutes later and she's had me start the third load, help fold the sheets, and move our tomato seedlings out to the back porch (hope the birds don't get them).
Read the Gene Lyons piece that ET posted in the early morning thread. It was over the top but there were elements in it that I agree with.
I really don't think I want to get into a major discussion until after Pennsylvania.
Posted by: Flatus
| April 20, 2008 8:20 AM
History........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF09agVUetM
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 8:24 AM
some pretty strong Hammond B-3 mongering going on there.......
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 8:27 AM
Ping Pong
Here is the WABC audio link
http://www.wabcradio.com/sectional.asp?id=21063
For TV you need a system that gets the RFD channel.
Posted by: Jamie
| April 20, 2008 8:48 AM
Sturgeone
You had to go and remind us about when television was witty and intelligent with a host as brilliant as Steve Allen. Princess Pat of the Met, Jonathan Winters, and PHil Harris on the same show as guests
Favorite Steve Allen production the show "Meeting of the Minds" that he did for PBS. He was quite a musician, but only one really major hit that became his theme song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHDmkv2gpX0
Long before anyone else pointed out the nosedive in the school system, he was screaming about it in his book "Dumbth"
Posted by: Jamie
| April 20, 2008 8:58 AM
Nervous Norvus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYwh9Zlwavg
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 9:07 AM
Obama Could Get 'Swift Boated'
"Titled "What Is Rove Up To?," Sloan writes that Rove will seek to redefine Obama's signature slogan "Change We Can Believe In" and brand it instead as "revolutionary change, change driven by an alien ideology, change no patriotic American could stomach. And he intends to do so by channeling Sen. Joseph McCarthy."
In the memo, Sloan lays out the case he believes Republicans are making and would make against Obama if he were the Democratic nominee, linking the senator to Weather Underground founders Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.
"According to Weatherman communiqués and papers compiled by the Federal Bureau of Investigation into a 403 page summary, Ayers and Dohrn toed the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist line. They were hardcore Communists bent on world revolution," Sloan writes.
"Ayers and Dohrn were responsible for bombings of the US State Department, US Capitol, the Pentagon, the National Guard Headquarters and nineteen other sites. Two other Weathermen, the parents of Ayers and Dohrn's adopted son, Chelsa, were convicted of murdering two policemen and a security guard during a Brinks truck robbery," he says.
Sloan says Rove and Republicans would "eviscerate" Obama if he were the Democratic presidential candidate. He recalls links that have been reported in the press between Obama and Ayers and brings up other leftist leaders and ideologues.
"Rove's frame for the fall campaign will be filled with revolutionary figures -- Marx, Lenin, Mao, Ho Chi Minh and Che Guevara. His audio tapes of Ayers, Dohrn and other Weathermen will provide the screams of revolution. The bombing of the US Capitol, the Pentagon and the US State Department will serve as b-roll for his television ads that will have one final visual as the announcer gravely intones 'Their Change -- Not What You Had In Mind?'" he predicts."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=4688386&page=2
Posted by: GORDO | April 20, 2008 9:31 AM
GORDO, I am glad you provide links to what you're quoting but also please identify sources, especially on such long passages. The "Sloan" in your quotes above is an avid Clinton supporter -- Rick Sloan, communications director for the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers. That doesn't discount what he is saying, but it is important context.
I am NOT trying to discourage your contributions, Gordo, just asking that you clearly identify who is being quoted and any relevant affiliations they might have.
Posted by: Craig Crawford
| April 20, 2008 10:29 AM
GORDO
Links Links Links Post Links Links Links
PLEASE
Posted by: Jamie
| April 20, 2008 10:31 AM
I keep thinking about the prospects of a McCain-Petraeus ticket.
Given that McCain could serve only one term... there's a lot to consider there.
Given that Petraeus has been given authority by Bush over Bush in Iraq... and possibly most of the Middle East... and that responsibility for everything gets flushed ten times daily...
Those who say they will vote for their Democratic candidate or no one have something to consider here.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| April 20, 2008 10:31 AM
Axelrod is a better debater than his candidate
Posted by: Craig Crawford
| April 20, 2008 10:47 AM
Garin is a far worse debater than his candidate
Posted by: Craig Crawford
| April 20, 2008 10:53 AM
Craig,
I hope Axelrod is not going to be running the government. He may run a great slash and burn style campaign but I don't think we need another political operative deciding policy. It is what destroyed W's presidency, IMO.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | April 20, 2008 10:53 AM
The NYT has such an important and disturbing (though not shocking) article about how DEEPLY cable TV's "military analysts" are tied to the Pentagon's information machine.
Which leads me (if no one else) back to my thoughts about a McCain-Petraeus ticket...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/washington/20generals.html?hp=&pagewanted=all
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| April 20, 2008 11:10 AM
By Big Tent Democrat
NOTE: MTP used the story today. This now becomes an issue. I never thought the Move On/Clinton story actually hurt Clinton, but the methods used by the HuffPo poster have come under fire from Paul Lukasiak:
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/4/20/9259/02194
At the same time, though, in light of questions on this very topic raised even by the NYT back in 2003, it is difficult to take the article's underlying points seriously as though they are some kind of new revelation. And ultimately, to the extent there are new revelations here, they are a far greater indictment of our leading news organizations than the government officials on whom it focuses.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/04/20/nyt/index.html
Posted by: Lynn C | April 20, 2008 11:18 AM
Sorry, Craig - I should have identified Sloan.
I monitor the Right Wing. They are laying the foundation for a vicious attack on Obama as described in that article from ABC News. Rev Wright (GD America, etc.) would also be used along with Ayers. And there is so much more.
Posted by: GORDO | April 20, 2008 11:31 AM
"lie with dogs wake with fleas"
I guess that is why your man is scratching so much
Posted by: LOL | April 20, 2008 11:44 AM
Hi Everyone,
I also dropped move-on when they endorsed. Maybe it was the wrong arm of the "dot.org' but it was the one that sent me all their e-mails.
Flatus -Stinky sounds like my kind of woman, get up and get it done.
Craig - You are really funny - that painting of Imus in the garden, with the tulips, just made me laugh out loud.
Enjoy your day, I have to get movin' -we are way behind schedule.
peace ~
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| April 20, 2008 11:45 AM
GORDO,
Would it be too much to ask for you to either suggest a strategy for dealing with your apocalypse -- or to cite strategies for addressing it?
As you have made this your cause, there should be an alternative "next step" to the one you keep foreseeing --
You know, the one off a cliff.
Yes, attacks will come if Senator Obama is the nominee.
You also might want to show a little versatility in exposing the same about McCain who actually has committed MAJOR criminal acts (as has his wife) and gotten away with them.
Give your mind a little exercise.
You won't be a Cassandra.
But for all your myriad to endless postings.... you really will have accomplished nothing more than you did with the first half dozen.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| April 20, 2008 11:45 AM
Imus and Craig liked the debate?
But most Americans did not?
(I guess we're just naive and stupid to want a substantive discussion of Iraq, the economy, health care, global warming.)
Posted by: nash
| April 20, 2008 11:46 AM
Here's your chance to suggest questions for Jon Stewart to ask Barack Obama tomorrow night. To submit, go to cite below and look at left column:
www.thedailyshow.com
Come on, guys, think up some good ones.
Posted by: patd | April 20, 2008 11:52 AM
I wasn't all that wild about Move On back when they were defending Clinton. The defense was necessary, but I didn't care for some of the methods. I like their methods even less now. They are simply the left wing of the political spectrum and have the same value as the right wing ... noise machines and talking points for the sane middle to mull over while trying to get things done.
Posted by: Jamie
| April 20, 2008 11:55 AM
Since the Hillary people like to focus on stupid issues and personal attacks, here's one. (Too bad Stephanopoulos didn't ask this.)
If Hillary REALLY wants to be president, if she's devoted herself to this for YEARS, how come she never climbed on a stairmaster to lose her giant butt?
Voters don't want a pair-shaped candidate.
And McCain wears a corset. (Am I the only one who has noticed this?)
Only slim, trim, Obama is "fit" to be President.
I hope this will lead to a week of MSM coverage of the critical "too many donuts" issue.
Posted by: nash
| April 20, 2008 11:56 AM
There is the small problem that Cassandra was always right, unfortunately no one believed her. Just cause she wouldn't let Apollo into her bed he hits her with that curse. Typical male. :-)
Posted by: Jamie
| April 20, 2008 12:01 PM
sorry, that cite again was
http://www.thedailyshow.com
Posted by: patd | April 20, 2008 12:03 PM
John Gibson: "What is that Hillary? A size 26 pant suit?"
Obama: "Can I jump in here and say I have the same waist size as I did when I was playing varsity basketball in college?"
Hillary: "I'd rather talk about substantive issues, like the fact that Barak's neighbors complain about him not mowing his lawn often enough."
George Stephanopoulos: "Chelsea has a nice butt. If you lost weight, would you look like that?"
Obama: "My wife has a nice butt. Even after two kids."
John Gibson: "We have to go to commercial break for our sponsor, Krispy Kreme."
Posted by: nash
| April 20, 2008 12:05 PM
John Gibson: "We're back from commercial break and I'd like to ask Hillary, if you became President, would you have to modify Air Force One by putting in bigger seats, and would the taxpayers have to pay for that?"
Hillary: "No. All I'd need is one of those "seat belt extenders."
George Stephanopoulos: "Barak. How much can you bench?"
Obama: "Body weight. You?"
John Gibson: "Are you kidding? The last time he tried to do a push-up was recess in the third grade. He couldn't do one, so they made him eat a worm."
George Stephanopoulos: "You said you wouldn't tell."
Hillary: "After I become President, I'm going on a diet."
Bill Clinton (from backstage):"We've heard that one before."
Posted by: nash
| April 20, 2008 12:15 PM
GW Bush is probably our "fittest" President. He's a real jock, zooming around on his mountain bike. He looks good in a suit. He looks even better in blue jeans. And let us not forget how he looked on the deck of the aircraft carrier, in a flight suit. One cannot discount the subliminal effect this had on voters.
Thus, the next debate should not be a "debate." It should be an aerobics competition followed by weight lifting.
We can get Jane Fonda and Arnold to be "moderators."
(If you have to ask "Arnold who?" you need to hit the gym.)
Posted by: nash
| April 20, 2008 12:45 PM
Well, Craig, we hear a lot from CNN and I doubt they provide links to this kind of stuff
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04192008/news/regionalnews/kinky_news_networkcnns_quest_a_very_knot_107174.htm
Recently. Redog said that one of my links was to a Wacko Paper. Well, if you check the contributing writers, they are hardly all wackos and the links provided in the article itself were further linked to other sources that are credible. Ayers and Wright simply scrape the surface of a substantial network of people who work towards goals that Obama claims he opposes. Obama's associations with ISM go fairly deep and to say this is just destraction is both arrogant and foolish.
Yesterday I listed important policy positions that Obama has declared made dubious by recent events. He appears as stubborn as Bush. Pkaistan, Iran, Syria, Chavez, Columbia, Sudan are all areas where Obama is wrong. Even after the first hour of "distractions", Obama looked clueless in addressing questions on Israel and the economy. Unfortunately, all these things make Obama much weaker against McCain. Do Democrats think they can win on loyality? How smart is that?
Great tulips. And I wonder how it's like sitting next to Uberman after reading 9/11's post some days back, or even letting him benefit by the House version of the Press Bill. Since the Press knows what IT wants, I rather doubt they will inform the public about what is at stake. Will you?
Posted by: Maxtrue | April 20, 2008 12:47 PM
Chris Matthews: "Tonight, on Hardball, we're going to spend the entire hour talking about whether Hillary is too fat to be President."
Pat Buchanan: "Chris, Americans will NOT vote for someone who has a butt like a bass fiddle."
Howard Fineman: "Polls indicate that the voters are more interested in health care than in whether Hillary has to turn sideways to get through a door."
Chuck Todd: "Drudgereport has a picture of Hillary in a thong swimsuit, taken by a paparazzi with a telephoto lens. It's not a pretty sight, but shouldn't we be talking about Iraq?"
Chris Matthews: "NO. Do you think that photo may have been leaked by the Obama campaign?"
Pat Buchanan: "They're denying it, Chris, but I have talked to people on the Obama campaign staff who said it was taped to their coffee machine for a week before it showed up on Drudge."
Posted by: nash
| April 20, 2008 1:09 PM
9/11, thanks for pointing out the article. it would not surprise me if a McCain-Petraeus showed up before November. This article validates many of the lefts feelings about the reporting of the war. Thanks again...
The NYT has such an important and disturbing (though not shocking) article about how DEEPLY cable TV's "military analysts" are tied to the Pentagon's information machine.
Which leads me (if no one else) back to my thoughts about a McCain-Petraeus ticket...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/washington/20generals.html?hp=&pagewanted=all
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of) Author Profile Page | April 20, 2008 11:10 AM
Yo soy un demócrata amarillo del perro.
Yo soy Hussein Horsedooty!
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| April 20, 2008 1:10 PM
CRAIG ON CSPAN NOW
Posted by: Jamie
| April 20, 2008 1:10 PM
Imus and the cows among the tulips on c-span.......
lol
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 1:24 PM
This is sort of interesting:
You can find anyone anywhere simply by entering their cell phone number ... using GPS technology. I was really surprised.
Currently the service is for free.
http://www.trackapartner.com/index.html
Hope it helps.
Tom
Posted by: EuroTom
| April 20, 2008 1:39 PM
Maureen Dowd - Obambi is anorexic and chews too much nicotine gum.
He has no muscle tone which explained his inability to bowl using only an 8 pounder. He should have asked for bumper guards.
And for such a tall guy, little tiny feet.
Posted by: American Bowlers | April 20, 2008 1:40 PM
Bloggers!
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 1:46 PM
Hi Craig,
I am watching you on c-span. You are so good. Why don't you have your own show?
I realize this is personal, but are you married?
I love your tulips, I have lots in my garden in Ohio.
You are so on task with the "substance" issue. There is none with Obama.
I am trying to stay away from the media coverage, it is very bias. Won't the media have egg on their face when Hillary wins the nomination.
Posted by: Carol
| April 20, 2008 1:51 PM
from Chuckie Todd
Two other interesting cross-tabs with high undecideds also indicate the potential that undecided vote will break for Clinton. Among bowlers (24% of the electorate) and gun owners (38% of the electorate), Clinton leads big. She's up 54-33 among bowlers and 53-28 among gun owners; There were 13% undec. among bowlers and 17% undec among gun owners
Posted by: No spare votes for Obama | April 20, 2008 2:16 PM
Gallup:
Today O is ahead by 2
Yesterday H ahead by 1
About a week ago O ahead by 10 or 11 I think
Quite a roller coaster
Posted by: Oregon Democrat | April 20, 2008 2:22 PM
Craig,
WELL DONE!
So often speakers dazzle people with their footwork--not you. You were thoughtful in your replies, and to my ear, worked very hard to process the questions posed to you and then provided meaningful, thoughtful replies.
I agree that the two Democratic candidates would complement each other. People tend to think that peas-in-a-pod personalities are what's needed. Not so, as you pointed out.
Quite true about the Clinton campaign's apparent arrogance in blowing off the caucuses.
Posted by: Flatus
| April 20, 2008 2:37 PM
I was going to take Sunday off from working on the campaign, but after sleeping in, I have energy and am ready to go.
Voters here are glad there is excitement about the primary.
Ballots are mailed out May 2nd and must be received by 8 p.m. on election night..May 20th I think.
About 30-40% actually hand deliver them to numerous sites like libraries, schools,and fire stations in the last couple of days before election.
I was originally opposed to the mail-in system, but the suspected problems with it never occurred.
Posted by: Oregon Democrat | April 20, 2008 2:40 PM
In order to have a shot at the nomination, Hillary needs to take PA by double-digits.
Polls indicate that ...IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.
Voters are sick of swiftboating.
Posted by: nash
| April 20, 2008 2:42 PM
I'm often bemused by the certainty of some O supporters after they have been wrong, wrong, wrong; so many times in the past.
Posted by: Oregon Democrat | April 20, 2008 2:47 PM
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Posted by: painter
| April 20, 2008 2:51 PM
Obama/Clinton ticket? Another silly MSM fantasy.
The only way the Clintons will ever get to see the inside of the White House again, will be if they take the public tour.
"And here, just off the Oval Office, is what we like to call the intern blowjob room."
Posted by: nash
| April 20, 2008 2:51 PM
In order to have a shot at the nomination, Hillary needs to take PA by double-digits.
Polls indicate that ...IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.
TPM Election Central | Talking Points Memo |SurveyUSA: Hillary Ahead By 18 Points In Pennsylvania Primary
I guess your post was just more of your attempts at satire.
Posted by: Jonathan Nash Notsoswift | April 20, 2008 2:56 PM
Jonathan..What an interesting name..
I'm off to do a little Hillary campaigning.
Posted by: Oregon Democrat | April 20, 2008 3:01 PM
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Posted by: painter
| April 20, 2008 3:03 PM
i watched craig on c span, craig u so have the media bias wrong
perfect example today on cspan....after ur lil talk ed kennedy was suppose to speak(and be covered) on cspan rallying some obama supporters in pa but we only got to see about 10 mins of kennedy,as he gets to the meat of his remarks my screen goes black and then when pic returns instead of kennedy we have x pres bill c stumping for hillary....at my house we call cnn AND cspan the hillary round the clock networks
yea i can turn off the tv and go to the net to find out info but millions of americans dont have that luxury
Posted by: karen | April 20, 2008 3:03 PM
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Posted by: painter
| April 20, 2008 3:03 PM
Craig,
Your appearance on C-SPAN was excellent. It was very pleasant to hear real conversation between the callers and the pundits as well as the respect between you and the host. I hope this means you will be on there more often. If is such a vast a nd delightful difference when compared to the loud mouths and empty brains on most of the scream and demean shows.
Posted by: Jamie
| April 20, 2008 3:05 PM
JSN-troll: Most polls show the Wicked Witch of Wellesley College winning PA by 5% or less.
She had 20%, about two weeks ago, but her dirty campaign tactics have caused backlash even in her redneck base.
(Read Frank Rich's column at NYTimes.com if you want to know why swiftboating ain't working this time.)
Posted by: nash
| April 20, 2008 3:11 PM
Here we go again. Welcome to the roller coaster:
Gallup Daily - Obama up by 2
http://www.gallup.com/poll/106609/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Holds-Slight-47-45-Advantage.aspx
Posted by: Jamie
| April 20, 2008 3:14 PM
"Damn. You really CAN'T fool all of the people, all of the time."
-Hillary Rove-man Clinton
Posted by: nash
| April 20, 2008 3:14 PM
So while the poll shows Clinton with a narrow lead (and arguably a narrowing lead), the clues inside the numbers indicate this is her race to lose and that her lead could expand. Should this race end up as close as this poll indicates (i.e. 5 points or less), then this means many of these undec. potential Clinton voters decided to stay home; If the come to the polls, she could see her lead climb to over 5 points.
He concludes:
And that’s the game Tuesday, not if Clinton will win, but how big will her victory be. She’d like to net more than 200K in the popular vote which she would only get with both a large turnout (approx. 2 million total) and a 10 point victory.
Oh right we've heard the cell phone and youth vote argument before...in Texas.
Posted by: Pesky facts for the Notsoswift | April 20, 2008 3:17 PM
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/la-na-obamaphilly20apr20,1,4563764.story
Posted by: The Culture Clash | April 20, 2008 3:19 PM
Oh right we've heard the cell phone and youth vote argument before...in Texas.
Posted by: Pesky facts for the Notsoswift | April 20, 2008 3:17 PM
Didn't Obama win the most delegates in Texas?
Posted by: Just Curious | April 20, 2008 3:21 PM
According to the NY Post, CNN has become KNN the Kinky Network News.. witness the arrest of "business" reporter Richard Quest... I guess he was on a quest for monkey business.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04192008/news/regionalnews/kinky_news_networkcnns_quest_a_very_knot_107174.htm
I do wonder about the contraption he had around his privates and neck... What's up with that?
Posted by: EuroTom
| April 20, 2008 3:28 PM
SN-troll: Most polls show the Wicked Witch of Wellesley College winning PA by 5% or less.
She had 20%, about two weeks ago, but her dirty campaign tactics have caused backlash even in her redneck base.
(Read Frank Rich's column at NYTimes.com if you want to know why swiftboating ain't working this time.)
Posted by: nash | April 20, 2008 3:11 PM
SEXIST !!! I don't take issue with your analysis that her campaign on the bitter comments may have backfired, but calling her a "wicked witch" bothers me greatly... We'd never call a man running for office a "wicked warlock"... SEXIST!!!!
Posted by: EuroTom
| April 20, 2008 3:33 PM
SN-troll: Most polls show the Wicked Witch of Wellesley College winning PA by 5% or less.
She had 20%, about two weeks ago, but her dirty campaign tactics have caused backlash even in her redneck base.
(Read Frank Rich's column at NYTimes.com if you want to know why swiftboating ain't working this time.)
Posted by: nash | April 20, 2008 3:11 PM
SEXIST !!! I don't take issue with your analysis that her campaign on the bitter comments may have backfired, but calling her a "wicked witch" bothers me greatly... We'd never call a man running for office a "wicked warlock"... SEXIST!!!!
Posted by: EuroTom
| April 20, 2008 3:34 PM
Chuck Todd was on Russert yesterday doing a detailed analysis of just how difficult it will be for Hillary to win more pledge delegates than Obama. It's damn near impossible, no matter what assumptions you make.
Obama is also WAY ahead on super-delegates.
So, unless Obama is "outed" as a communist pedophile who uses American flag toilet paper, he wins.
Posted by: nash
| April 20, 2008 3:38 PM
"Obama is also WAY ahead on super-delegates. -- posted by nash"
where'd you get that? did i miss something? Obama winning more superDs lately but overall still behind -- and some 250 or more still undecided
AP has done a lot of legwork in this article, talking to undecided superdelegates (who, like it or not, are going to be the deciders): http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/UNDECIDED?SITE=CONGRA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Posted by: Craig Crawford
| April 20, 2008 3:43 PM
'Vast right-wing conspiracy' leader's paper backs Clinton - The Associated Press
'Vast right-wing conspiracy' leader's paper backs Clinton
"PHILADELPHIA (AP) — Could it be the "vast right wing conspiracy" is having second thoughts? Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton was endorsed Sunday by the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, whose owner and publisher, billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife, personally funded many of the investigations that led to President Clinton's impeachment in 1998.
In its endorsement, Tribune-Review editors said Obama is too inexperienced to be president and that his recent comments about bitter voters living in small towns showed a lack of respect for middle-class values.
Scaife spent $2.3 million to fund a series of articles by The American Spectator magazine that dug into Bill Clinton's behavior as governor of Arkansas.
Hillary Clinton famously defended her husband at the time, saying the allegations were part of a "vast right-wing conspiracy" heavily funded by Scaife."
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j-1cC5WZJDIRiHnDVs7fYrsOOG0wD905MJ6O0
Posted by: GORDO | April 20, 2008 3:43 PM
CSPAN has good "substantive" political shows, and it's a lot more low-key than the cable news channels.
Posted by: nash
| April 20, 2008 3:43 PM
Undecided Superdelegates on't feel bound by primaries
By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER – 2 hours ago
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5huRF3cWlHcz5si9CnwBUQ6S-Ff5QD905NNH81
And if this was already posted I apologise
Posted by: EuroTom
| April 20, 2008 3:47 PM
BTW, are we the only two people talking here??? Where is everyone???
Posted by: EuroTom
| April 20, 2008 3:50 PM
ET: Well, of course, "wicked witch" is sexist. What part of the swiftboating tactic don't you understand?
It's not so much fun when they Ruby Slippers are on the other foot, is it?
Tuesday 4/22, The Clinton Headquarters:
"I'm melting, melting. Oh, what a world!"
*****
I'd just like to know what happens to those flying monkeys, afterwards. They scared the hell out of me when I was a kid and I don't want them showing up in my backyard.
Posted by: nash
| April 20, 2008 3:51 PM
ET: There's not many people here right now because most of them are out gardening.
Posted by: nash
| April 20, 2008 3:53 PM
The #1 reason McCain won't win.
Coming this summer: $4.00 a gallon gasoline.
When that happens, even the guys with the Confederate flag decals on their pick-ups will be mumbling, "F*cking Republicans!"
Posted by: nash
| April 20, 2008 3:59 PM
Craig,
Taking a break from my own gardening. Your tulips look great. Better than mine.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=skU-jBFzXl0
Posted by: Nancy | April 20, 2008 4:00 PM
Ah but will all Hillary supporters be willing to forgive you? :) It is rhetorical.
Posted by: EuroTom
| April 20, 2008 4:04 PM
Gordo even I think that's a stretch about Richard Mellon Scaife. I wouldn't even put it past him to do the endorsement to create a bigger controversy for Hillary. As for me, I used to be pretty far-left and I see no shame in that. I am more moderate these days, a by-product of life in Europe.
Posted by: EuroTom
| April 20, 2008 4:07 PM
One woman doesn't find the "wicked witch" comment sexist and proves it because she's a woman?
Well... okay then...
Posted by: EuroTom
| April 20, 2008 4:10 PM
ah, Nancy, but with this rain today many of my tulips are finally losing their petals. nothing lasts forever.
btw all, NYT has a great tool online for tracking superdelegates: http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/superdelegates/index.html
Posted by: Craig Crawford
| April 20, 2008 4:11 PM
ET:
"It is for the victors to forgive, and for the vanquished to be forgiven."
I think Caesar said that, or maybe it was Custer.
Posted by: nash
| April 20, 2008 4:11 PM
kiki: I've been a feminist since 1968, if it's possible for a guy to be a feminist. The very first time I heard feminist ideas expressed (at an anti-Vietnam war rally) I thought, "That makes sense."
On this blog, I usually adopt a "nutty-extremist" persona, for laughs. I'm glad you figured that out.
For months I have noted (in my more rational comments) that Obama and Clinton are virtually identical on most policy positions. That's why the vehemence of the intra-party battle is so amusing.
That being said, I really do think Hillary has taken the low road, and Obama the high road. And that's why I started making comments as a "Hillary-hater."
I don't really care which one wins, But we HAVE to defeat McCain or this country will be in BIG trouble.
Posted by: nash
| April 20, 2008 4:25 PM
Craig,
If you like bulbs, next time you're in England visit the Royal Botanic Gardens at Kew.
http://www.kew.org/events/spring/bulbs/index.html
The daffodils are breathtaking.
Posted by: Nancy | April 20, 2008 4:25 PM
nash, thanks for commenting back to me. Of course I think men can be feminists. My father was a member of NOW when I was a little kid and did not even know what it was. I read this blog a lot but comment very infrequently, and the levity your offer is refreshing.
Posted by: kiki | April 20, 2008 4:32 PM
From the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review Editorial
"As we noted at the time of that meeting, Clinton's decision to sit down with the Trib was courageous, given our longstanding criticism of her. That is no small matter: Political courage is essential in a president. Clinton has demonstrated it; Obama has not."
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/archive/s_563322.html
Posted by: GORDO | April 20, 2008 4:38 PM
Just a quick comment on the price of gas.
I drive a 17 year old van and I would guess that I average about 10 to 11 gallons a week and around 100 miles or less per week.
Last week I filled up and the tank took 8.825 gallons and I put 104 miles on the odometer. Now there is a difference between what I actually use because I don't top off. I try to round to the dollar. It cost me $30 dollars and I paid 3.399 a gallon.
This week today when I filled up the tank took 7.890 gallons or just a little less than 1 gallon from the week before. I put on 91 miles or 13 miles less than the week before. I paid $28 dollars for the fill up.
Just looking at the above it cost me $2 dollars less than the previous week. However, the price per gallon was 3.549 a difference of .15 cents a gallon.
Now last week I did try to top off so I might have paid for one gallon less if I didn't try topping off and it would have cost me around $1 less than I paid today. Or if I did top off today I might have gotten another gallon in the tank and it would have cost me more than it did last week even though I put less miles on.
Notice also that there was a .15 increase putting the price of gas over $3.50 a gallon.
My thought or question is how long do you think it will be before gas is actually over $4 dollars a gallon where you live?
The clerk told me that their cost went up three times over the past week so at this rate of just a nickel a week we will be paying $4 dollars a gallon by the end of June of in another 10 weeks.
If it raises more than .5 cents a week as it did this last week gas could be over $4 dollars a gallon within a month.
And like usual it will not come down a hell of a lot when the price does start dropping.
You think the average citizen is not bitter about the cost of everything that is needed and not a luxury than you will see very bitter and angry citizens in the remaining Primary's.
Think about that for awhile.
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| April 20, 2008 4:44 PM
And its very courageous to sit down with Satan also. So What?
We should now believe that the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy no longer exists and its greatest supporter is no longer evil?
Satan will always be Satan and Scaife will always be Scaife.
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| April 20, 2008 4:49 PM
anon-paranoid-------------------
Don't see it that way. I probably followed the Clinton "scandals" more closely than most here - will not go into the reason. This doesn't bother me at all. I am fully aware of RMS's activities in going after the Clintons.
Posted by: GORDO | April 20, 2008 5:09 PM
Anon
Gas always goes up this time of year about 15 cents. I believe for the summer ozone reduction.
Something my wife and I have been noticing is the change in Cars being driven. 2 years ago my little daiwoe station wagon was the littlest car on the road. on the freeway we would be surrounded by big SUVs not any more. Now I am in the middle of the pack. mfewer SUVs are being driven and more small cars.
My 3/4 ton 350 ford pickup is still king of the road. Or at least the driveway where it sets most days.
Jack
who is going out side on this lovely day and doing more gardening.
Posted by: whskyjack | April 20, 2008 5:19 PM
If you go to supper with the devil, take a long spoon.
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 5:20 PM
Sturge
I say if you go to supper with the devil , he picks up the check.
I don't mind paying for meals I enjoy but for the others there has to be something in it for me.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | April 20, 2008 5:24 PM
With population crowding seven billion, pollution destroying food supplies all over the earth and more and more land being turned over to fuel production, the price of gas will be the least of our worries in fairly short order.
Posted by: Jamie
| April 20, 2008 5:30 PM
Craig,
I missed you on C-span...Can you u-tube it and post it.
I love your tulips..I'm jealous!!!
I think it would be cool if we could call in and you could use Phil Donahue's old line IS THE CALLER THERE!!!
Posted by: Tan | April 20, 2008 5:31 PM
Crawford fans tired of not seeing enough of Craig on the tube--
Thread on MSNBC politics message board pushing for them to put Craig on more frequently. Please help keep it hot and put the pressure on Olbermann et al to restore some balance and put Craig back on in place of all the usual hacks:
http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboards/board.aspx?BoardID=780
Posted by: Lynn | April 20, 2008 5:36 PM
Lynn,
Here is the direct link to the "Where is Craig Crawford" thread
http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboards/thread.aspx?threadid=635478&boardsparam=PostID%3D17375681
Posted by: Jamie
| April 20, 2008 5:53 PM
This mornings appearance on CSPAN is now available on their web site
http://12.170.145.161/search/basic.asp?ResultStart=1&ResultCount=10&BasicQueryText=Craig%20Crawford&image1.x=22&image1.y=6
Top link
Posted by: Jamie
| April 20, 2008 6:09 PM
Hooray! Thank to KO & others.
"Local politicians help injured solider being called on to go to Iraq"
http://www.whec.com/article/stories/S417594.shtml
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| April 20, 2008 6:10 PM
a president who might turn out to be in the backpocket of known terroist.
who might be a racist.
who might be a CLASS divider.
who might have been taking bribes form REzko
whose long answers forged first 50 mins of debate
but he blames on moderators whose quesitons only took 30 seconds.
........... i dont have to wait for the next shoe to drop. i have a better choice.
Posted by: EX-OBAMA Supporter | April 20, 2008 6:37 PM
Video: McCain Criticizes Obama’s Relationship with Ayers on “This Week”
http://thepage.time.com/video-mccain-criticizes-obamas-relationship-with-ayers-on-this-week/
Posted by: GORDO | April 20, 2008 6:39 PM
Salem is completing its 3 day film festival today..Very successful.
I've been to a number of festivals and this is the best run one I've seen. The people work so hard..tons of volunteers.
This year they were challenged by rain, snow, and sleet.
Posted by: Oregon Democrat | April 20, 2008 7:45 PM
I see Hillary Clinton as the Democratic Nominee.
Florida will be counted....Michigan will be counted.
Obama has spent over 8+ million dollars trying to keep
pace with Clinton and he is still behind in the PA polls.
that is a clear indiction that despite the crowds we see
he is still struggling.
8.2 MILLION! AND STILL BEHIND?
He has all these people endorsing him every single day and he still has to spend 8.2MILL, AND STILL BEHIND?
Posted by: un-duped | April 20, 2008 7:50 PM
What is spaghetti squash. I'm unfamiliar
Posted by: Oregon Democrat | April 20, 2008 8:01 PM
J. Peterman.......you mean that guy Elaine used to work for?
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 8:27 PM
Jack...
I fill up every week and when the price is on a steady rise it's usually 3 to 5 cents at a time.
Over the past two months it either went up by 5 cents, stayed the same for 1 week than rose 10 cents to this past week it rose 15 cents.
At the beginning of the year I paid 3.039, dropped to 2.989 and has since followed the above figures. Even the the price of oil was remaining steady it still rose though demand was down.
I don' t really think this has anything to do with summer driving at all. Its a scam that big oil has used for many years and the people have bought into it.
I guess we will have to wait and see what happens with the gas prices over the next several months.
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| April 20, 2008 8:39 PM
CC......that was an enjoyable hour today........good work
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 8:40 PM
anon.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Botticelli_Venus.jpg
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 9:11 PM
sturgeone...
Thank you also my friend.
God Bless.
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| April 20, 2008 9:22 PM
Jerry and Chet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni8KBhnebwE&feature=related
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 9:27 PM
It just occurred to me that an apology for a double post is actually just a triple post.........
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 9:33 PM
Nothing Gold Can Stay
Nature's first green is gold,
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf's a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.
-- Robert Frost
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 9:45 PM
sturgeone,
I'll see you Jerry and raise you Les Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfjD680wQJI
Posted by: Nancy | April 20, 2008 9:49 PM
I see your Les Paul and raise you a Mary Ford .......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOK5hOXS8dQ
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 10:00 PM
Miles Davis & John Coltrane
http://youtube.com/watch?v=U4FAKRpUCYY
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | April 20, 2008 10:01 PM
Jack, Black Mountain Rag. Country Coltrane.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SoHeMlh_8A0
Posted by: Nancy | April 20, 2008 10:10 PM
Some more guitar pickers.
Joe Maphis Larry Collins Merle Travis - Wildwood Flower
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpGkM44RZX0
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | April 20, 2008 10:18 PM
Bob and Glenn......
http://youtube.com/watch?v=t1m7TcIsgUQ
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 10:22 PM
May and them little liver pills
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENS4nD0vRKI
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 10:26 PM
woops......sorry for that double......er.......triple post
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 10:32 PM
b
Posted by: painter
| April 20, 2008 10:39 PM
ISABELLA
Could great men thunder
As Jove himself does, Jove would ne'er be quiet,
For every pelting, petty officer
Would use his heaven for thunder;
Nothing but thunder! Merciful Heaven,
Thou rather with thy sharp and sulphurous bolt
Split'st the unwedgeable and gnarled oak
Than the soft myrtle: but man, proud man,
Drest in a little brief authority,
Most ignorant of what he's most assured,
His glassy essence, like an angry ape,
Plays such fantastic tricks before high heaven
As make the angels weep; who, with our spleens,
Would all themselves laugh mortal.
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 10:44 PM
Summertime - Ella Fitzgerald & Louis Armstrong
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1yKgAEkCKxY
lets end with a lulaby
Night all
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | April 20, 2008 10:44 PM
jes......una lubbaly........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76L2LxRcfWs&feature=related
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 10:48 PM
tomorrow I tell you the story about the only thing I know about Chicago.......the punch line is the chicago gangster type telling me, the bandleader, to "tell the c**t to shake her ass and you flash them F'ing lights"
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 10:58 PM
Talking to ourselves
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-jacoby20apr20,0,2950321.story
Posted by: warren
| April 20, 2008 10:59 PM
oh.....that took place in Black Eagle, Montana.........1970
whadda trip......17 adults a baby and a puppy.......
Posted by: sturgeone | April 20, 2008 11:00 PM
Sorry to bring back up politics - into what has seemed like a pleasant conversation.
But I just wanted to say Georgie-boy did a good job hammering McCain today on "This Week". He made clear how McCain has completely changed his position on the Bush tax cuts (in an obvious move to pander to the Conservatives).
It was also interesting to hear McCain attack Obama's character for statements made by Ayers and Wright for several minutes. And then attempting to dismiss a parallel situation for himself with Hagee - who's endorsement McCain actively sought. McCain seems to think that in his case - he can denounce the comments but can still "admire and respect Dr. Hagee's leadership ..."
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/mccain-admits-h.html
(McCain then also completely takes Obama's statement about the outrageous comments made by Sen. Coburn - who apparently delivers babies on the weekend and is a "great American" - so I guess he can say whatever he wants....)
Posted by: warren
| April 20, 2008 11:14 PM
Sturgeone,
I sometimes think that Mesure for Measure quote is echoed in this part of the lyric from Is A Puzzlement
There are times I almost think
Nobody sure of what he absolutely know.
Everybody find confusion
In conclusion he concluded long ago
And it puzzle me to learn
That tho' a man may be in doubt of what he know,
Very quickly he will fight...
He'll fight to prove that what he does not know is so!
Posted by: Jamie
| April 20, 2008 11:19 PM
This is one of the smartest takes I have heard on the old "flag pin" debate:
"I think it is a nice thing if people want to wear a flag on their lapel.
But I believe it more important to keep the flag behind our lapel — in our hearts.
I feel the same way about wearing my religion on my sleeve; it fits better for me on the inside."
(more here)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/20/ftn/main4029438.shtml
(looks like Bob Schieffer is in the tank for Obama . . . j/k ; )
Posted by: warren
| April 20, 2008 11:51 PM
And in the real world today:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20080420/wl_mcclatchy/2915454
Posted by: warren
| April 20, 2008 11:54 PM
What Gordo?! There is another election after this one?!
Now way dude - I was hoping to be done with all this nonsense by the Summer.
(Anyways, I thought Hillary said that the GOP might just admit defeat, surrender and hand over the White House to the Clintons.)
Perhaps Obama supporters - including many of the elected Super D's that have been coming out for Obama after Feb. 5 - realize that he is signing up a lot of new Democratic voters and is getting some in the GOP to switch. And that is a very political reason to support Obama.
Posted by: warren
| April 21, 2008 12:11 AM
Just watched this video.
*L* @ "nervous hospital" from "Sling Blade".
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| April 21, 2008 1:54 AM
Morning Everyone,
It is another glorious sunshine filled morning here in Amsterdam. The tulips are finally out....SPRING has arrived
Just donated another fat one for HRC....
It looks bright. Dutch media predicting a 10+ win for HRC. I was happy.... Hope they are right
Remember that about two weeks ago I predicted 15+ win for HRC, I am still sticking to it.....LOL
O, I read that most of the SD´s are waiting this thing out..... Hmmmmm, wasn´t the big O comong out with more than 50 SD´s backing him, some 4 weeks ago???? We are still waiting. This sounds good for our HRC
My dad said he has peeled of his: "Don´t blame me,I voted for Hillary sticker" and replaced it with a blue and red: In the tank for Hillary" and placed it on his tankcap!!!!! LOL...:))
Posted by: Jason | April 21, 2008 2:06 AM
I will hold a cease fire against CNN and watch tonight; the Larry King special with HRC. And then it is off again.
Amazing choice to go on Larry tonight...Although I am very wary of everything associated with CNN and Larry King, I will watch this one.
OD,
How is everything gearing up in there? Is there enough enthusiam? Is it building......
BTW, someone mentioned that Edwards will NOT endorse HRC, seen as he will be her VP candidate.... Ohhhhhh, the drama!
Did someone say 8.2million in ads for BO????? Astonishing!!!!
p.s: Since last Saturday, I have a big sign on my front appartment window: Hillary 08 (my dad sent it)
Posted by: Jason | April 21, 2008 2:12 AM
Did someone catch Peter Daou´s pop quiz?
Hilarous, and very cool.......
Love it...People are sending it through email.... Got 12 out of 14. hope that is a good score
Posted by: Jason | April 21, 2008 4:43 AM
What happened to the politics of Hope?
What happend to the change te way Washington plays?
What happened to:" yes we can"?
What happend to going negative and the kitchen sink theory?
What happend to Barrack?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/21/us/politics/21dems.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Or are the true colours finally showing in moments of desperation...LMPO.....
HRC08......
Posted by: Jason | April 21, 2008 4:50 AM
Jason...
You pretend you are Obama and let someone slap you around for 4 weeks and than say how you won't fight back.
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| April 21, 2008 7:09 AM
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