Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Hillary Clinton Voter Protest Event Friday April 11!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceym55Xlmzg

Good call Craig on the challenge Hillary faces. Her problem will be with the scorekeepers. Most of the hosts at MSNBC will look at Senator Obama as the defending champ, and if Hillary doesn't score a knockout, they'll make it tough for her to win on points. I'd count on you and Pat Buchanan to score it fairly, and I'd hope for Scarborough to try to be objective. Most of the others have pretty much made up their minds already.

"and come off as nasty and shrill. "

You are such an oinker. All women are "shrill" to you. I guess your relationship with your mom must have been HORRIBLE.

And Obama will come off oily and phony. I hate thefact that because of the "fix" I will have to vote for him for president. Because I fear one day I'll feel like the W voters do now.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk.

And by the way -- didn't anybody see thatKansa Memphis game? DAMN!

NOBODY seemed to give Kansas a shot toward the end. Then, the NC and Memphis games were stunners!

"but any hint of shrillness from her will immediately become the headline AND the story."

Ed, I understand the "shrill" thing -- but DAMN it pisses me off. Women have different voices than men. Does that mean we shouldn't be in public office?

Congratulations to all the Jayhawk fans. I was yelling for Memphis to foul your guy before he could shoot that three-pointer toward the end of regulation, but the only one who heard me was my son, who was on the phone with me.

Memphis' achilles heel was their foul-shooting, and they paid the price. But it was a great finish.

Good night all.

Hey Patsi, guess you're glad that your team didn't drop out of the game when they were behind with 17 seconds to go before overtime. Some would say the team that's behind must quit before the game is over.

EXACTLY, Craig! Never count a Kansan or a woman out!

Patsi,

It's clearly a double-standard, and it's wrong, but there's nothing you or I can do about it. Hillary has the ability to be serious and act presidential, and that's the way she needs to play it during the hearing. Craig may be wrong on this being her last chance, but it's at least an important opportunity for her to prove her street cred on defense and international issues, and whichever way it goes, the electorate will see it over and over again.

Now, I've really got to turn in.

Touché! C. Crawford scores from downtown.

Good points, Ed -- God, I can't believe I'm still awake. My son couldn't believe it when he called about the game either!

Huge,enthusiastic crowd at opening of Portland Hillary headquarters..Several more to open starting this week..The campaign is going full force in Oregon.

Where is Michelle Obama?

Yeah, good game for the underdogs, Kansas! Goes to show you that having good super delegates, er i mean refs, can make a difference in the outcome. :)

Morning everyone,
Interesting point. I will be trying to watch today. Hope some of the media will air it in its entirety and not just the bias segments they want us to see!

Has anyone caught the snoop dogg emotion against Barrack? LOL
First 50 cent and now Snoop..... This is gonna be the battle of the rappers... LMPO

Exactamundo burrito!!

"Yes Ruth, there seems to be a pattern there. My dumb ass friends that voted Bush last time...like Obama this time.

Yep! these are people who, do nothing more to get their news then watch a morning show.

They are out there and they vote!"

This has been a big reason why I support Obama. I think he is the strongest Democrat for the general election - because he can win the people that voted for Bush...twice. And I just am not sure that Clinton can.

Plus, I have paid attention to Obama for awhile now (closely - and not just on cable news) - and I am confident he is ready for the job.

I do agree that the media is tough on Clinton. After reading many of the posts on this blog, I now begin to notice when some of the pundits go over the top to take a shot at Hillary. (I used to just cheer and naively think it helped Obama). But of course these nuts on TV do not speak for Obama and really don't speak for anyone but themselves. Cable news is more a series of op-eds as opposed to journalism.

But nevertheless - I agree with many of the critiques of Clinton (and did so even before the media started to hammer them home).

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/3/132137/8953/579/448929

(btw, I am no daily kos nut - and actually don't go there for my news. It was just the first place I found to set up a page where I could get down some of my thoughts. Anyways, why the hell am I still trying to rehabilitate my credibility. That is like trying to build a sand castle in a hurricane...)

Helluva game. I never for a minute counted KS out, with 3 point shots and clock stops after every basket. If you know basketball, you realize that even with some sloppy play,. it was a classic final game.
Now we keep hearing that basketball -crazy Indiana may play big in deciding the Democrat with the May 6 Primary.
Obama says he could take WBush one-on-one on the court.
It's Spring, but basketball is still around.
And Craig's right...and Clinton will drop out when the clock shows 0:00 , not with a whole lot of time left on the clock.
TAKE IT TO DENVER!!

Oh.
The dutch media was reporting last night that tha hospital story of HRC was not false!
Tried to find something on CNN or on Fox but they both had nothing yet..
Any news on this..????

If it is indeed true, I wanna see if the pundits will correct...NOT!

May the force be with you...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080407/sc_nm/science_particle_dc;_ylt=AqKirpOid4yAgmmUq1RrdMIDW7oF

Hillary and Ellen D. ridicule Chris Matthews:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/07/hillary-commiserates-with_n_95514.html

Good Morning!!

Speaking of nasty and shrill women....I am wondering if Mika Obamarzezinski is going to be her usual snide, sneering, snarky self with HRC this morning.... 8)

youtube clip of HRC with Ellen(ridiculing Chris Obamatthews)...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QEINaMPXyJc

Mrs Clinton had a good appearance this morning. She still has her sense of humor but appeared noticeably fatigued. She expressed pleasure that the WaPo corrected itself on the hospital story. Got straight to the overarching issue of the absolute necessity for universal healthcare in our country. (Mr Obama's position on the making participation for people without kids is incredibly naive. But she didn't say that--didn't need to.)

Tried to find something on CNN or on Fox but they both had nothing yet..
Any news on this..????
--Jason

You may have read this, since your post this morning...

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/04/07/clinton_told_true_tale_of_woe.html

Thanks for that link, LL.

you're welcome, Flatus 8~)

There's no reason to think Hillary will be shrill or inappropriate in questioning Gen. Petraeus or Amb. Crocker today. She did an excellent and steely job during last dog and pony show. She is a responsible Senator who works hard and prepares well.

I still prefer another candidate for president.

Patsi: congrats on Kansas win. Thought of you when I heard that; now I wish I'd seen the game. Missed a good one, apparently.

Superdelegate forced to take back Obama vote

http://www.greatfallstribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080408/NEWS01/804080301/1002

Good Morning Craig, Everyone:

I am trying to fight of being mildly depressed, thank God for my beautiful daughter who woke up earlier than me and brought me breakfast in bed followed by the gang of six lol. It's one of those rare Kodak moments that moms all over the world treasure :-))

Beinhart's comment on Morning Joe comparing Obama's campaign to a "cross between a Hummer and a Porsche was what I consider the "Moronic comment of the day"

Dear Mr Beinhart try to do some objective journalism you pathetic excuse for a journalist! Do you honestly think intelligent people will take that remark seriously?

Mr. Beinhart it is easy to have a campaign that is a cross between a Hummer and a Porsche when 90% of the media including you are in the tank for Obama. Just Like you they have taken a leave of absence from honest fair investigative journalism. Congratulations Mr. Beinhart you have lowered the standard of journalism.

--Heather

Heather, sounds like every day is Mothers' Day in your household. Enjoy!!

H Clinton grand standing today will make her look like the phony she is. Let her shoot off her fat mouth and let her alienate her fellow senators as it already appears that the majority of them are in Obama's camp.

IT IS A BEAUTIFUL THING TO WATCH HER CAMPAIGN IMPLODING!!!!!!!

Today's "Uh Duh Ya Think?" headline for the day

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/NUCLEAR_OZONE?SITE=MIDTF&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Jamie

Told you MoJo would jump at the chance to defend her on the hospital story. Maybe it was because she was on the show.

Everyone is soooooooo quick to call Hillary a liar...now they all look like fools...you know who you are.

"Clinton Told True Tale of Woe, Says Kin" (Lush posted link above)

sorry...that was off topic.

BTW....let's all remember that it was the Obama campaign that fanned the flames of this...telling O'Bleness Memorial Hospital to come forward and call Hillary a liar.

That is the part of the story that won't get picked up...

Better late than never - Bob Dylan wins Pulitzer

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5idO6antAykNkXQ0nat1qlzqlq1gQD8VTLH1O0

HILLARY CLINTON WILL SHOOT OFF HER FAT MOUTH TODAY AND ALIENATE THE MILITARY AND HER FELLOW SENATORS. THE MAJORITY OF THE SENATORS HAVE ALREADY BACKED OBAMA.

IT IS A BEAUTIFUL THING TO WATCH HER CAMPAIGN IMPLODING!!!!!

"There's no reason to think Hillary will be shrill or inappropriate in questioning Gen. Petraeus or Amb. Crocker today. "

I agree...wishful thinking on the part of the Obamaniac Hillary haters. As Craig noted in his post...Hillary usually shines in situations like these.

Wow....someone give Skylark a pill.

Jamie...on the taking the endorsement back...maybe the superD comes out of his column...but the endorsement is made...can't take that back.

Was nice to see that if Montana somehow (I doubt it) goes for Hillary that she'd vote for Hillary at the convention.

oh, and jamie - I was talking about the SD link, not Bob Dyllan - the poet of OUR generation.

"So if you accuse someone of lying when they are telling the truth, does that make you a liar? "

Pogo I vote for "BIG F#$@*& IDIOT" (yes...I think it appropriate to use the famous flavoring word that begins with an F in this situation...sorry)

ROFL

Looking at the lists, it seems most of the Generals have endorsed Sen. Clinton. I guess the guys who actually have to die for their country trust her more than they do Sen. Obama.

KGC.....
If you quit posting here I'm going to be very disappointed for quite some time......

For those who didn't know, You Tube has a Bob Dylan channel called "Bob Dylan TV". It's wonderful. Today's featured video is "Blood In My Eyes"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5pOh1FLb2g&channel=BobDylanTV

This is what I saw on a t-shirt someone was wearing at work this morning. It fits this place most days.

Pick One
A: I Don't Know
B: I Don't Care

btw, here's what i posted last night after we heard from the family member of the woman in Clinton's stump speech story. It is sounding more and more like Gore's maligned-but-true internet claims:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/04/clintons-expanding-trust-gap.html#comment-64315

By the way , what's with all the shouting this morning?

corey.....the shouters remind me of people who wind up climbing up into the tower with a number of rifles and lots of ammo.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h27HRNm_r4U

Inside voices , people! LOL! Sturgeone!

Dana Priest and Anne Hull won a Pulitzer for their remarkable WaPost coverage of Walter Reed.

The Washington Post won 6 Pulitzers.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/07/AR2008040701359.html?hpid=topnews&sid=ST2008040701372

Wendy,

Re: your 8:45 post

It's always easy to believe the worst when actions are attributed to campaign staffers. Was there reporting that indicated Obama's staff pushed the hospital to attack Hillary's story? Or is this one of those, "I'll bet they did it" statements that eventually gets stated as fact?

There's probably no redress when the patient is already dead, but I see this as a hospital violating patient privacy rights, when there was no pressing need to do so. The hospital appears to be defending itself from a charge that was never made.

KGC: come back come back wherever you are.

General Petraeus will be speaking soon. How can you not comment on THAT?:

Please leave Sklylark alone..

I love it when people like him implode... You need to let them go.
My device CTRL-ALT-DEL.

has msm picked up the story? From my colleague I hear that only Fox did.....

trouble is, people like skylark dont implode....they explode covering all around them with gore and ook.....

Ed, I'm a little rusty on this - but hospitals can generally acknowledge that a person is a patient and can give a limited description of their condition (I think deceased might be included), and whether one has an expectation of privacy after death depends on the law of the state the person is (or in this case, was) in. There are a bunch of factors a court would consider, but in this case, I don't see the hospital as having actionably violated the deceased patient's privacy, although I think this was pretty hinky on the part of the hospital. In WV, our office of health facilities accreditation and licensure would be in the hospital in a heartbeat to investigate an occurrence like this, and the hospital administration would be sweating bullets.

For those who would like to od on Dylan today

http://www.youtube.com/user/BobDylanTV

Hillary Clinton: Mad As Hell/Bitch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM

EdVB - You make all good points in your 9:32 am comment.

BTW - I agree...Jamie has never come across as egoistic...someone is projecting

I also agree that I'd like to see KGC commenting again.

"egotistic"

Steve Coll's New Yorker article on concerns within the military re its readiness. Background reading for boring parts of Petraeus hearings. (Senatorial grandstanding, etc. By Inhofe, etc.)

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2008/04/14/080414taco_talk_coll

Skylark's comments aren't the problem - misguided - but not the problem.

It's all the yelling so early in the morning. ARGH. Remember it's early for us left coasters.

;-)

A YouTube response to Obama's claims to the Today show that he had not distorted John McCain's statements on the 100 years in Iraq issue:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts3U939CD3g

Jake Tapper linked it on his blog today. This YouTube election is quite a development in the political game!

Gordo: Seeing all those white men spewing misogynist hatred is tough to take in one sitting. Ick.

if skylark is for real, he's simply an extremely rude and ugly little person......if NOT for real.....he's just here to fan the fire and add more fuel......

has nothing to do with whom he is supporting.....if he supported Hillary, I'd be, as a Hillary supporter.....embarrassed for her to have supporters of that stripe.....but then maybe he's not for real and he's just doing his job......hell, who knows?

I had to deal with bullies in junior high , too.

While waiting to hear about Hillary's performance today... I want to respond to something written yesterday:

I did not know Phil Donahue was still alive.

Posted by: unlikely_burrito | April 7, 2008 10:04 PM

That just made me jump up and say "I LOVE MARLO THOMAS!" She is such a great actress and a feminist who was ahead of her time! She pushed the envelope with THAT GIRL and she's bright, witty and passionate. Dayum, we've had an actor as a President and many actors have played Presidents.. I'd had love to see Marlo run. Of course she's 70 years old now and there is that nasty "tell all" book by one of her servants.. but still... we all have our little secrets.

MARLO THOMAS for Congress 2010 !!!!

Thank you and now you may go back to your original programming.

I had to deal with bullies in junior high , too.

Posted by: Corey | April 8, 2008 10:08 AM

Ah Corey, I was PUMMELED in HS... People I didn't even know would just punch me. But it made me a survivor and and made me strong enough to stand up to people and speak my mind.

Bullies suck...

I'm off again for a while --- bye all

GORDO

Great video!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM

LMAO @ the 3-headed guy with the chain saw!!

The guy who bullied me picked a fight with the wrong guy in gym class one day. He ended up crying in front of the whole class. That ended all his bullying of other kids. However , I think he later went to prison for killing a guy about 15 years ago.

Skylark is a WOMAN she doesn't need any pills. I am very up to date about H Clinton and also educated about all the unethical behavior she engaged in the last time she lived in the White House. Maybe many of you don't remember but I do.

Remember white water, travelgate, where she ruined 5 people's lives by accusing them of dishonesty to get her Arkansas cronies in the jobs. They were exonerated by the courts.

REMEMBER HER HIRING PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS TO DISCREDIT THE WOMEN BILL CLINTON ABUSED AND INTHE CASE OF JUANITA BRODDERICK, RAPED.

REMEMBER WHEN SHE STOLE VINCE FOSTER'S PAPERS BEFORE SHE LET THE POLICE INTO HIS OFFICE.

REMEMBER THE FACT THAT SHE WOULDN'T ALLOW MILITARY UNIFORMS TO BE WORN IN THE WHITE HOUSE. NOW SHE WANTS TO COMMANDER IN CHIEF !!!I DON'T THINK SO!!!

REMEMBER Clinton’s problem, however, is that a corkscrew landing under sniper fire is the kind of thing that is hard to forget and harder still for memory to invent. This is confabulation on a pathological scale.

SHE IS UNFIT TO BE PRESIDENT FOR THE ABOVE REASONS AND MANY MORE. I AM A NEW YORKER AND FOUND HER TO BE A LACKLUSTER SENATOR ONLY GOOD AT PRESS RELEASES AND PHOTO OPS.

Posted by: Skylark | April 8, 2008 10:23 AM

Your membership to Back Channel is coming soon,
speaking of third rate cliques.

Luxury condos for fish.

New York's used subway cars used to build underwater reefs; so popular states are competing for them. Flounder and sea bass approve of their new digs off Delaware coast.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/08/us/08reef.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Pogo,

I don't disagree. I'd bet there's nothing "actionable" rergarding the disclosed information. It does seem amazing however that in an age where health professionals have to take all sorts of steps to assure they're not violating HIPAA and other consumer protection and privacy laws, that hospitals continue to divulge as much information on "public figures" as they do. Obviously, that's not what we're talking about here, because the previously anonymous young lady was far from a public figure.

My main problem with the hospital's disclosure is that Senator Clinton named no patient or hospital. The hospital seems to have "outed" a deceased patient, who sort of fit the description of the person described in Hillary's re-told tale. Certainly, they want to minimize their liability, but it was apparently their staff, who performed heroic efforts in trying to save the patient. Granted, no good deed goes unpunished, but it seems "No comment" would have been a better approach.

Of course, the bigger story should be that this story CAN or CAN'T happen in our health system. I'm inclined to believe it can happen, and that's Hillary's issue and I expect Senator Obama's as well.

Skylark: you would be more effective without the all caps. People avoid reading the blog equivalent of a scream.

Skylark:
You seem very angry and vindictive toward Hillary this is very sad and depressing> I always try to be respectful of other viewpoints but you put that theory to the test mercilessly :-((

--Heather

I just made the most incredibly delicious smoothie!!

1c skim milk
1c frozen mango
6oz Mori-Nu(extra firm)silken tofu
1/2c sf dark chocolate pudding
1tbs Hershey's special dark cocoa powder
1tbs splenda

yummmmmm.... 8~P

BY THE WAY, DRAGON LADY,CLINTON ALSO STOLE $30,000 WORTH OF WHITE HOUSE FURNISHINGS TO FURNISH HER NEW ESTATE AND THEN HAD TO RETURN THOSE PIECES .

ALSO Mrs. Clinton, SUPPOSEDLY fought to end the exploitation of women in white slavery and international prostitution. But in 1996, SHE and SORT OF husband reportedly welcomed a campaign contribution of $400,000 from the boss of an alleged prostitution racket in Macau — money he allegedly made on the backs of enslaved, exploited women. How do you square taking this money with your feminist ideals?

I HAVE A LOT MORE, IF ALL OF YOU CALLING ME NAMES WOULD LIKE TO KNOW!!!!!

Skylark: Do you have a blog that we could go to if we want to review your information? This might make it easier than shouting your allegations. Many thanks!

BY THE WAY, DRAGON LADY,CLINTON ALSO STOLE $30,000 WORTH OF WHITE HOUSE FURNISHINGS TO FURNISH HER NEW ESTATE AND THEN HAD TO RETURN THOSE PIECES

and she has all the "w'" keys in a special lock box too.

seriously ROTFLMAO @ Skylark

A little humor is needed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bqgy1mebh8&feature=related

Gee, I haven't had this much attention since the last time I played on Broadway!!!!!

Heather,

Gorillas are endangered already. Don't help. :-)

oh Lord...

The proceedings will be interesting to watch today.

Doubt it will change very much.

PA: current margin average: Clinton +6.00 (down from almost +20.50 5 weeks ago), tendency is closing.

NC: current margin average: Clinton +13.20 (increased from +7.4 from Feb/March), tendency is rising for Obama.

IN: current margin average: Clinton + 7.00. Not enough polls to see trends yet, but she is starting at +7 in IN instead of +20 as was the case in PA, and Obama has an entire month to whittle away at her lead.

OR: first major DEM primary poll (SUSA): Obama 52 / Clinton 42. Margin: Obama + 10

It's time for Clinton to pull out.

Jason,

In regards to your Fox statement that they may be the only one carrying the clinton hospital news story.

Seems they are the only one also that is not BHO lovers. Last night on Hannity & Colmes, they were talking about Ayers connection to BHO. Bob Bcchtel was the dem strategist and he just poo pooed it as being not worth a thing. Hannity bet him a steak dinner paid personally that if BHO won the nomination the story would be so big in the general that BHO would wish he had neve ever seen Ayers..
Hannity said it took almost a year just for the msm to pick up story on Rezko..
What has happened to journalism. No wonder no one wants to read papers anymore..

Julie

This is very sad...it is turning into the the WaPo, HuPO and Daily Kos. If anyone supports Hillary they are castigated, threated and harassed.

I am deeply saddened to see this...I don't expect everyone to support or agree with Hillary and thats fair. There is a right and civil way to do it. not ll-mannered an immature is not the way to accomplish this.

People here know I support Hillary and will not back down and heaven knows I have been highly critical of Obama, but I think must here will tell you I have done so in a fair honest respectful way. Sure I may have compared him to Jessie Jackson and Rev Sharpton but I tempered that with facts and yes sometimes I referred as the messiah Obama because the media as anointed him as a sort of messiah and its tongue in cheek.

I am sorry you have all this hatred inside you for Hillary Skylark. You need to learn hate only begets more hatred, hate is a wasted emotion.

I suggest you try humility, compassion and understanding

--Heather

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NC: current margin average: Clinton +13.20 (increased from +7.4 from Feb/March), tendency is rising for Obama.

IN: current margin average: Clinton + 7.00. Not enough polls to see trends yet, but she is starting at +7 in IN instead of +20 as was the case in PA, and Obama has an entire month to whittle away at her lead.

Originally Obama was up 10% in Indiana and much more in NC

Hang in there, Heather. Despite the vitriol and the ALL CAPS all over this thread, there are those of us who, regardless of our political preferences, dislike the media bashing of Hillary Clinton. The Clinton slam became a Pavlovian reaction when Bill was president, and I can't imagine it would be any different with Hillary. Hasn't so far in the campaign, anyway.

I sort of hope she wins Pennsylvania by a wide margin, if only to watch how some of the more vocal Hillary-hating pundits try to come up with "logic" to support their theory that "by winning so big, she really loses." It'll happen, I'd bet my last dime.

Ed - sorry - was working. Yeah, I think the hospital objected too much, but it probably (and I'm guessing here) was something that was in the local papers when it occured, which lessens the burden on the hosp. to keep that stuff confidential. I'll ask 'cuz I don't know - did the hospital mention the patient's name in its denial of the story?

Julie, that's a cheap bet for Hannity to make - one of his sponsors is Ruth's Chris, and I know that he has been on a personal tear to smear Obama with Ayers.

Skylark, care to provide a link or two for all your allegations? Helps avoid charges that they are from the BBFF (thanks to CBob).

POLLCAT: The first poll from IN was an outlier, with 35% undecided.

Yes, he was up more in NC and then fell during the Wright Flap and has now recovered.

Au Revoir !!!!

If you add fuel to the fire it will burn longer. Every time someone engages with a hateful spiteful person that person responds with more of the same old crap. It appears that some here bitch about the b.s., but in reality they help to keep it going by making it the topic.

Seriously, if you want it to stop, do not give someone the time of day, unless they treat you the way you want to be treated.

Off to the dog park ^..^

The Hillary bashing from the Barrack is supporters is based solely on hate, eventhough they will whole heartedly and in a laughing joke try to deny that claim.
The woman owns the issues we need to ficus on as a country and will be a damn good president.
I have been all over the internet reading blogs, researching news items, and all I can come up with from the opposite is pure hate!

As a black educated man I am saddened that we have fallen this low and that it will probably take us 100 more years before we ever get an black candidate that has a shot.....

It is sad to see that as a nation we have fallen pray to what MSM wants us to believe.

Yesterday many overlooked the Princess Diana verdict. But to me this was a milestone: being chased into death, Britney would have been the most recent victim would the tide not have changed. No morals, no consciense...just keep slaughtering people for the sake of their personal goals and prejudice
They will continue to dog Hillary even if she loses the nomination, because that is what they do best.
We have fallen for the media and we continue to look, read and listen...
I am also guilty, but maybe it is time for us as a people to stop and make a statement! No more....

And please ignore that hatefulness. It consumes energy and time and frankly it is annoying that you guys take out your time and respond to people whose duty it is to make us jump, by denigrating a human being!

Stay cool,
We got HRC´s back...even if she doesn´t get the nomniation, and she knows that. That´s why recently she eased up and is more laidback..

She knows child, she knows!

Amen, unlikely_burrito! It never ceases to amaze me how hard those who claim they want the vitriol to stop work at keeping it going....

I only got to see the first part of the Petraeus testimony.

Any my take away was: The surge is working!! We have made huge strides and now . . . we are back to the levels of violence from 2005-2006!!! Woohoo!!!

(Wait a minute. Back in 2005-2006 - I don't remember anyone saying the Iraq War was going well...)

Anyways, I am looking forward to hearing what Clinton and Obama have to say. I heard a bit of McCain. Same old story we have heard - we must achieve "victory!!" But of course victory is defined in vague terms and he gives absolutely no prediction about WHEN it can realistically be achieved - he also doesn't tell us much about HOW it can be achieved.

I hope she stays behind in all polls and than she pulls a NH yet again....and again.....and again....and again.....
These polsters will never learn.

Please spare me the dramz.......

Jason..Regarding your 11:14 post..

I agree that reacting to the provocative postings attacking Hillary is not productive.

The relentless attacks in the media and in the blogasphere only make me do more on Hillary's behalf.

The incessant personal attacks reveal much about the attacker.

I notice that the very small group on this blog who treat Hillary as inhuman rarely evidence any real, concrete commitment to the candidate they allegedly support.

After reading the normal nonsense this morning, I sent Hillary another $25 online and will be heading to several small communities today with my Hillary signs.

I'm pleased that a headquarters will be opening where I live in the next week. I can start campaigning indoors.

Have a good day..

McCain, in this morning's Iraq hearing, makes it clear how he will try to frame the issue in the general:

“We’re no longer staring into the abyss of defeat and we can now look ahead to the genuine prospect of success. ... Tthe promise of withdrawal of our forces regardless of the consequences would constitute a failure of political and moral leadership."

Kudos to my esteemed senior senator, John Warner, who asked the fundamental question: are we any safer as result of our actions in Iraq? Both witnesses danced around not answering what Warner told them was a pretty simple question.

John Warner for president, asap through to January 20, 2009.

(A dog can dream.)

Craig, interesting use of terms by McCain - defeat versus success (as opposed to victory). I think he's been speaking to some pretty smart folks who understand that success is a more appropriate goal to try and sell that victory considering the stand up/stand down paradigm the Dumya admin has used.

dog - that is the question Hillary said she planned to ask Petraeus when she was on MoJo this morning.

Me as well OD´Me as well

I keep donating. Maybe they will give me a medal at the end. LOL......

I admire you for your sign holding.

When I was about 12 years old I was vice president of my debating club at school. In the final of that year my school lost...I was so sad and angry that we lost that I didn´t eat for two days: My dad said to me after two days: "To be a winner, you do not always have to win. As long as you give it your all and fight for it".

I didn´t know what he meant than, it made no sense...Years later I understood..

Hillary reminds me of that situation....

My dad is so good......YEP!

Craig

That sounds like his speech that he he gave here at the Vet of Foreign wars(?) headquarters yesterday.

Jack

Pogo @ 11:05 & EdVB

Re: Clinton hospital anecdote--the first mention of the
deceased patient's name appears to be in wash post
on 4-3-08 by Anne Kornblut in article "in speeches,
Clinton often veers to dark side", no mention of any
hospital's name; thereafter a local Ohio paper the Daily
Sentinel on 4-4-08 discloses the patient's name, but
no reference to a particular hospital "clinton uses Meigs tragedy to highlight health care".

It was left to the NYT article on 4-5-08 by Deborah Sontag wherein the O'Bleness Hospital somehow came forward to her to refute Clinton's anecdote, although it was never mentioned in any of the articles, & yes this hospital not only again revealed the patient's name, but provided information about care provided to the patient--which may or may notbe a breach of HIIPA, ---but certainly was self-serving on the hospital's part, for some reason yet to be disclosed.

The real problem was that the msm took the hospital's version of the anecdote in another effort to undercut Clinton, hammered it to death--and the perception will remain & be repeated that Clinton is a liar (as it was claimed here)--even though the followup by Wash Post appears to confirm the basic premise of the anecdote told to Clinton orginally.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/04/time-for-clintons-shock-and-aw.html#comment-64457

great point, Pogo. what Dems ought to worry about is how McCain might come across as more reasonable than Bush about staying the course to "success" instead of belligerent vows to "win the war"

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/04/time-for-clintons-shock-and-aw.html#comment-64461

yep, whskyjack, i thought McCain's VFW speech amounted to a withering dismissal of Democratic withdrawal promises they can't or won't keep

Jason..I still have great hope for a Hillary victory.

When I attended her rally in Hillsboro,the excitement was very impressive.

I've noticed a change in reactions from people when I am doing the sign=holding. People keep commenting about how she is a fighter.

I hope the financial resources allow her to continue the fight. The weeks and months ahead will reveal her strengths.

The "We've Got Your Back Hillary" signs at the rally say it all.

This is a lifelong battle. In the short term,sometimes we succeed,sometimes we dont. But, we keep on fighting.

I better hit the streets.

Craig, I have my moments - rare though they might be. LOL

McCain is a very smart dude. I saw him on Charlie Rose a couple of months ago and was very impressed. And while he may be able to articulate a compelling case as to why we must "stay the course" - he and the GOP are still wrong.

is something wrong with Susan Collins? she sounds and looks really frail?

For those interested,Hillary is not supposed to ask Questions until this afternoon and Barrack this evening.
Ruth

Obama’s pastor Jeremiah Wright: Former Muslim
April 07th 2008
A reader from Free Republic has dug up an old article last year (March 07) From TNR about Obama. It was written by Ryan Lizza, Senior editor at The New Republic. It’s a biographical piece, but in the article, it explicitly states that Jeremiah Wright is a former Muslim.

From Wright and others, Obama learned that part of his problem as an organizer was that he was trying to build a confederation of churches but wasn’t showing up in the pews on Sunday. When pastors asked him the inevitable questions about his own spiritual life, Obama would duck them uncomfortably. A Reverend Philips put the problem to him squarely when he learned that Obama didn’t attend services. “It might help your mission if you had a church home,” he told Obama. “It doesn’t matter where, really. What you’re asking from pastors requires us to set aside some of our more priestly concerns in favor of prophesy. That requires a good deal of faith on our part. It makes us want to know just where you’re getting yours from.”

After many lectures like this, Obama decided to take a second look at Wright’s church. Older pastors warned him that Trinity was for “Buppies”–black urban professionals–and didn’t have enough street cred. But Wright was a former Muslim and black nationalist who had studied at Howard and Chicago, and Trinity’s guiding principles–what the church calls the “Black Value System”–included a “Disavowal of the Pursuit of Middleclassness.’”

The crosscurrents appealed to Obama. He came to believe that the church could not only compensate for the limitations of Alinsky-style organizing but could help answer the nagging identity problem he had come to Chicago to solve. “It was a powerful program, this cultural community,” he wrote, “one more pliant than simple nationalism, more sustaining than my own brand of organizing.”

As a result, over the years, Wright became not only Obama’s pastor, but his mentor. The title of Obama’s recent book, The Audacity of Hope, is based on a sermon by Wright. (It’s worth noting, however, that, while Obama’s book is a coolheaded appeal for common ground in an age of political polarization, Wright’s sermon, “The Audacity to Hope,” is a fiery jeremiad about persevering in a world of nuclear arms and racial inequality.) Wright is one of the first people Obama thanked after his Senate victory in 2004, and he recently name-checked Wright in his speech to civil rights leaders in Selma, Alabama.
So the question is, why hasn’t anyone mentioned the fact that he’s a former Muslim? Could this be why Obama’s church posted a Hamas manifesto in the Trinity Church program last year? It obviously explains Wright’s affinity with Louis Farrakhan. It also explains more why Rev. Wright got his Masters degree in “Islam in West Africa”

This is just another blow to the Obama campaign. The American people are not ready to hand the reigns to someone who’s associations are beyond sketchy.

Clinton should be on berfore Armed Servces hearing finishes, Obama at the afternoon hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which is supposed to start at 1:30 p.m.

Craig,

I have always thought that she had a funny sounding voice in that I mean weak and shaky.

Yo soy un demócrata amarillo del perro.

Yo soy Hussein Horsedooty!

h

there are two more Democrats ahead of Hillary, Ben Nelson and Evan Bayh (they roughly follow order of seniority). Obama is 13th in seniority on Foreign Relations, which has already been pushed back to starting at 2:30 -- so he will be on much later (foreign relations committee members are notorious for being more long-winded than armed services)

Craig said, "is something wrong with Susan Collins? she sounds and looks really frail?"

Parkinson's??

And McCain. No matter what he says for election consumption, I thing he is basically a pragmatist. When the facts change, he'll change--but not on a semi-annual basis.

And, he's the one who looks frail. If elected, I think it's unlikely that he has the stamina to serve two terms. Which makes his beating Obama not so bad for the Democratic Party; we avoid a radical and have the opportunity of installing a centrist in four years.

Horsedooty, guess i havent heard Collins as much as I thought, but didn't remember her voice being so shaky

ha, Graham is trying to bait Petraeus in to bashing Dems, but he's not taking it

Graham is so incredibly transparent. His chances of being reelected are virtually nil.

yep, Flatus, Graham was definitely the most partisan sounding of the senators so far -- guess he's been assigned to do McCain's dirty work today

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Nelson talking about the money, some for training.
How many years does it take to train? We have been doing that for years now.

Reconstruction,? a joke .

What happened to the oil that was supposed to finance this GB war?

if Bayh defers to HRC, she might be next -- otherwise she's two senators away from taking the floor

Well here I was all excited about Marlo Thomas and y'all ignored me. pfffft... I can't watch these committee hearings because I don't have CNN or other american channels here in Belgium...

Craig, you've probably been asked this before, but what do you think of the calls by Obama supporters for HIllary to drop out of the race? And if you were a betting man, how likely is it that Obama will be the nominee and how likely is it, under that scenario, that Obama will try to bring Hillary along on the ticket?

Flipside too.. if Hillary wins the nomination, would she ask Obama to join her?

I think Senator Graham sounds like the cartoon character Huckleberry Hound.

Yo soy un demócrata amarillo del perro.

Yo soy Hussein Horsedooty!

yep, Julie-Young73, one of the BIGGEST issues to me is how little Iraq itself is spending on itself -- Iraq is not funding its own reconstruction from the reported $30 billion it has in U.S. banks and $42 billion it receives in oil revenue

can we get to that another time, EuroTom? i am hyper-focused on this hearing today

Flatus:

"Which makes his beating Obama not so bad for the Democratic Party; we avoid a radical and have the opportunity of installing a centrist in four years."

What is your definition of a "radical"? And are you basing this on what Obama actually says - or what is said about him by the GOP and Clinton supporters?

And I think if the Democrats lose the general election this year - a year that is totally set up for them to win after Bush and Co. - it will be very "bad."

sure, sorry Craig... I wish I could watch it myself, maybe I'll try the cnn website...

yep i figured Bayh would step aside for HRC -- yet another chit for his running-mate hopes

Craig:

Now all Bayh needs is a personality - and then he would make a great VP.

That was it???

Clinton sounded really subdued... No shock or awe there...

Craig,

Your comments Please?

C span quit right before Hillary. Caught last on CNN.

Julie

"Gee, I haven't had this much attention since the last time I played on Broadway!!!!!"

Translation: "I spent three years in treatment at Broadmoor."

Hey do you folks know this guy?

Jean-Paul Marthoz

I've been invited to Brussels to hear him speak on the vitals of a free press in a democracy.

I would love to go, and meet other Americans, but I am so afraid of driving in Brussel.

is it worth the trip?

Patsi, you're very funny !!! :-)

is everyone on lunch break????

"The hand of Iran was very clear in recent weeks,'' Petraeus said. `` He said it backfired on Iran and generated greater concern among Iraq leaders about possible Iranian influence"

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/32924.html

There is the new spin concerning the Iraq army and Maliki getting humiliated by Sadr. of course Maliki's allies are the ones under the influence of Iran and Sadr is the strident nationalist.............

See It is possible for Iran and the US to work toward a common goal.

Still clueless in the White house and on capital hill.

Jack

"Putting aside partisan rhetoric, looking only at the math, it is time for her to drop out. Hanging on only costs her more money, and at the end of the day, heartbreak. The GOP candidates all knew when it was time to pull out, and all of them except for Paul endorsed McCain immediately. If Clinton cares more for the democratic party than for her own personal ambitions, she will do the same,"

ROFL! Maybe NO Democrat should have even run once Obama got in the race.

No Tom,

Everyone watching Petraeus hearings. C span was covering it, and quit just before Hillary came on. I finally found her on CNN and missed half of it. Now C apan back on hearings. WHat, they just skipped Hill.

Brussels meeting sounds like a really good idea. Might be really interesting. You can master the traffic or take a train. It would sure be somehing to tell us in USA .
Julie

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Excuse Me I am going to be ill!
Talk about Hypocrisy!
I cannot watch the Sen Saxby Chambliss session I just find it difficult to forgive what he did to Maxwell Cleland I will tune in after he is done!

--Heather