Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

I saw H&C tonight - as Julie said, the Repubs agreed that the Big Name Dems would rather lose the GE than have Hillary as POTUS. That fits what Dean said today:

Howard Dean Can’t Take the Suspense

"Dr. Dean also apparently doesn't care what the voters of Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Indiana, West Virginia, Oregon, and Puerto Rico, among others, have to say about the nominee in their upcoming primaries:

(CNN)— An increasingly firm Howard Dean told CNN again Thursday that he needs superdelegates to say who they’re for – and “I need them to say who they’re for starting now.”

We cannot give up two or three months of active campaigning and healing time,” the Democratic National Committee Chairman told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer. “We’ve got to know who our nominee is.”

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/howard-dean-cant-take-the-suspense/

Mr Obama stiffing NC on the debate will certainly make it easier for a Mr Edwards endorsement of Mrs Clinton.

The time for Edwards to make a difference has long passed.

I re ceived a letter from Howard Dean today and promptly replied he could not expect one penny from me.. His actions of today - which are clearly not to let the voters finish their primaries and he is scared that BHO will lose... and the Fla & Mi voters are being denied their votes as well..

I am afraid the hot place will freeze over before I would vote for BO. And , I have 10 other people I know who have stated the same thing. That is 11 people in just one small circle...

Julie

I'm with you Julie. Same with my friends. Do you know how I can email old Howard D.? I feel he needs a piece of my mind. I gave MSNBC a piece earlier this evening and I feel better.

Don;t forget that Hillary is on Colbert tonight.

I just wanted to clarify a brilliant point that Flatus made in the last thread which explains a dramatic ante in the poker game going on between Obama and Hillary. Given the poor Obama act in the last debate and the likely increase in the vetting of issues Obama thinks don't matter over the next week, his next round could be even worse. So I repost this comment from the last thread just to offer an opinion which may put Obama in a vexing position in terms of Iraq. Sorry for length, but it may shed some light on what Hillary is up to.

"Flatus just hit it out of the park, Bravo. One mind here that is actually working. The problem the US is facing now in Iraq unlike most of our other situations in the past: we were not invited in. Turkey, the Kurds, and yes, even the Sunnis will not want us to go if the violence looks like it's going to hit the fan. These countries and groups know what Obama will likely do and believe me they don't want Carter/Zbig reduex. NeoLiberals were bluffing an exit to wake up Iraqis, they mean it. That is the game Hillary is playing to now. Bravo. Obama's retreat is smply that, a retreat. Hillary's ploy is to force an invitation backed up with real support. The UN is going to re-mandate our mission. I think the dynamic here are being missed and maybe most of you are asleep. The unknow nconsequences Hillary refered to can be assumed now to be unimportant. So let us exit. Isn't that what Obama is saying after all? He actually argues things will get better. See Hiilary will see that bet and raise the ante. She'll do it even faster...LOL

You think Europe and the Sunnis want to let Syria grab Lebanon? Or Iran to step into Iraq? Are you all so clueless? Our allies (leadership that is) would prefer McCain to a void. That is why we're finally seeing some action from France. We are seeing a new pro-US government in Italy. We see violence today prompted in Iraq by the Shia militants that are reacting to a new Kurdish/Sunni?/moderate Shia push to ban militias. The right direction, but incredibly slow in coming.

Who thinks Hillary the Hawk is simply capitualting? She talked about Iran and the other threats in the debate. She talked about a radical new re-alignment and security pact. This is a shrewd move. And she will reveal her complete thinking and explain what "unknown consequences" really means only after she gets the nomination (if she does). She raises Obama $100 and he isn't sure what's up, is he? He is losing the Iraq rant, fumbling the economy and healthcare and is about to get his ass spanked some more of the growing details of his flimsy relationships and his weak denials.

LOL

So if we do stay longer in Iraq under a Hillary administration, it will be with help and part of a broad invitation. Hillary hasn't said this isn't an option. She has said politicos set the mission and this particular strategy of Bush will end. As Flatus suggests, the key to a new approach where we do stay in Iraq will depend on our invitation and the good this will do for our reputation to accept. First there must be the signal to leave and then the offer of a new comprehensive alliance of the players. To stay there must come substantial support and Hillary's ante is not just aimed at Obama and McCain; it is aimed at the world.

Western Liberal Democratic hegemony has and always will based on our invitation. That perhaps is the crucial dfference between McCain's world view and the Clinton's. And it is altogether different than Obama's who represents a more NeoLiberal world view.

Poor Colbert.

This is Obamas new campaign song designed to get the rural vote and show that he is willing to work with Hrc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btEpF334Rtc

Jack

good one, as always, Jack..

Julie

ct:

Here is dean address..

http://www.democrats.org

get everyone you know to send him a letter..

Julie

Dear Dr. Dean,
I'm writing you at the time to let you know how much I appreciate your putting what's best for the Democratic Party above the wishes and desires of any one candidate running for the party's nomination in this year's presidential election.

I'd also like to take this chance to thank you for instituting your 50 states policy which I know will insure a Democratic victory in the presidential election but will also certainly go a long way in making sure that our lead in both the House and Senate will increase many fold.

Al the best,
Brian In NYC.

Howard Dean is also known as "Ho-Ho" Dean.

Craig, Imus said he just got new WideEx hearing aids, but he kept saying "wiener dog" as you said "Weimaraner", I thought.
My daughter has two Weimaraners and calls them "WIME-ah-raners", but whatever...I thought that was the type of dog Rebel was.
My daughter's dogs are Hans and Jazzmine, and they are GREAT dogs.
Hans was swimming last Saturday and he still had his leash on, and the leash got snagged on a limb and my daughter's man had to dive in and rescue Hans...he's OK.
M & P got the power back up , yet?

[reposts]

"Warren, you, as Mr Obama, are speaking with color of authority about something you and he know next to nothing about."

I could say that about a lot of people on this board. And that is the beauty of America - the people rule.

And Obama is speaking for us and Washington is trying to shout him down and put him back in his place. But it ain't happening.

(Sorry to spoil your coronation.)

* * *

Wow Clintonites. I just watched Keith-O.... He was way over the top. He really should be wearing an Obama 08 button on his lapel.

(I know I have poked some fun . . . but I don't know if I could watch him if I was a Clinton supporter.)

Obama should totally take public financing for the general. With MSNBC and Hollywood - he would be at a huge advantage over McCain.

(Plus the late-night guys are brutal on McCain....)

The Big Name Dems know that they cannot control Hillary. Obama would be used as a "front man" to make speeches. With Hillary as POTUS, they lose power - with Obama their power increases.

I must say - there is something to Hillary's "nuclear umbrella" idea (as creepy as that sounds ; )

it seems that this could potentially be a way to stop nuclear proliferation. But we are a long way from it.

The UN is at one of its weakest points thanks to Bush. And America will have to earn its credibility back before undertaking such an endeavor.

And the tricky part won't be any rouge nations that would choose not to be part of such an agreement (they would do so at their peril) - but it would be getting the nuclear powers to sign such a pledge.

(Looks like we better start making friends with the Chinese and Medevded, or whatever ; )

Warren I disagree with you, Obama should take the hit, and bow out of public funding, this is not an issue the voters care about and too much be gained by bowing out.

Flatus,

I said 2 months ago that Edward would wait until there are between 14-10 days before the NC primary and he will endorse Clinton at that time. I actually first mentioned it would happen half jokingly right after Edward withdrew because at the time Brian Hussein was put on suicide watch since he was so Pro Edwards and anti everyone else.

It saddens me that everyone is so hard core into drinking the Kool Aid from their respective campaign that you don't realize that the media has deficated runny feces into your punch bowl.

I laugh that I am labeled an Obama maniac or whatever you retarded pejorative label is for someone who won't fall upon their knees to pray to the Clintons just as Muslims bow to Mohammed.

At this point, all of these candidates suck. I favor Obama because of the following reasons:

1. He is the youngest, if he is a total cluster fuck in office, he will be the one to live the longest with the consequences of his actions.

2. He is the only candidate that hasn't given hints that they would lead an imperial presidency.

3. He is the least contemptible of the group for me now.

Warren, the sycophants that supposedly worship Obama have already labeled McCain teflon John. I suspect that he could sodomize young boys during a debate and would still get favorable coverage from the MSM. They are on their knees as if they were all auditioning to be his fluffer.

Obama Gives Hillary The Finger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DygBj4Zw6No

Edwards was very funny on Colbert, nice surprise!

Wise of Colbert to save the best for last, Obama!

Max:

I am not sure what you are so excited about. Hillary's 60-days "no matter what" is playing politics with Iraq. It is exactly how the GOP got Bush re-elected (arguing Kerry was for the war when the polls were high). And don't think HRC can "out-hawk" McCain.

Obama's position gives us time to stabilize Iraq. To get the buy in from our allies and Iraq's neighbors to deal with the refugee crisis and get Iraq's economy going again.

(And HRC saying she will ignore generals and do it "her way or the high way" will allow the GOP to use the "politics of fear" all over again. I agree we need to resist the GOP's "retreat - leading to chaos if we leave too quickly" argument - but that sure as hell doesn't mean I underestimate the potential sway it has over people.)

Jack:

We can add that to this song - which is the Obama campaign's theme song for the Democratic Primary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unvr3mC_QJU

(And of course in October - MoJo's lead-in will be Bowie on a semi-regular basis ; )

As always, for the Clintonites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtkVGClqrT4

Fools and guns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xr1t881e6c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qRJzpQXb7c

Jack

Warren--------------------

Do listen/watch right wing media?

Brian:

"Obama should take the hit, and bow out of public funding, this is not an issue the voters care about."

Not yet. That is because the GOP has not been out making the case too strong.

I know Obama put distractions "on notice" - but they aren't going anywhere too quickly. "Distraction" is all you are left with when you don't have the winning argument. And having a "better" Republican President to continue the same failed policies is not a winner this year....

Gordo:

"Do listen/watch right wing media?"

I watched all the GOP debates. And I don't turn off Charlie Rose or MTP if a Republican is on.

(but I don't click on many of your links ; )

Warren

You'll learn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6-wG5LLqE

Jack

After Hillary drops out Warren, I didn't say now.

Warren

I don't say this often but Brian is right.

Obama needs every advantage he can get it this election.

Jack

Those fools with guns videos should be shown at NRA meetings.

Gun regulation is not designed to take guns out of the hands of hunters - it is designed to take guns out of the hands of fools.

PS - there are more fools than hunters.

Warren--------------------------------

I thought not. I listen/watch a lot - radio/TV/internet - need to know what the enemy is planning. You cannot imagine what Obama would be up against. Now I understand why you are so optimistic. You have no idea how vicious these people can be when in full attack mode.

The problem is how do you test for fools. The NRA believes you can train foolishness out of fools and there for don't need a test. I don't but finding a test that removes guns from fools and not from the rest of us is impossible unless you just let me decide.

Jack

Well he is going to have to be careful - or it will cease to become an advantage.

Plus, money did not help much in PA. It is all about organization and message. And cable news and major newspapers are more important than commercials (do people still watch those?).

And he may be able to raise a lot of money - but there will be plenty of stories on TV and in the news that he went back on his word. (And the Right Wing will not include the key facts that this so called "pledge" was a form filled out at the beginning of the campaign - where Obama said he would try to work out an agreement.)

And all the pundits say no one cares about campaign finance reform - but I think most of America thinks the amount of money that has been spent on this silly production - over the course of about 15 months - is outrageous given the fact this country is supposedly in a recession. Talk about "two Americas"...

Gordo:

I listened to Sean Hannity on talk radio during the build up to the Iraq War. I know quite well who I am up against.

Obama questioner explains why she finds him annoying

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/34071.html

A good article but then its from McClatchy. it's to be expected.

Jack

Jack:

That would be fine by me. But some of the fools might object....

(Plus - Jedis don't need guns)

Pentagon institute calls Iraq war 'a major debacle' with outcome 'in doubt'

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/34101.html

Another good one from McClatchy

Jack

Gordo:

Plus - we saw exaclty what the enemy has been planning last night on ABC. And on several other occasions, the Clinton campaign has trotted out attacks under the guise of "well this is what the Republicans will do."

Seeing that these attacks aren't working - even when being employed by the greatest political machine going - it looks like the GOP will be forced to talk about the issues.

And that is a debate I welcome - win or lose.

"But some of the fools might object"

Yes, that always seems to be the problem with most of my grand solutions.

Jack

Warren----------------

Try listening now. You are living a "sheltered life". Many Dems cannot watch or listen to this right wing stuff. The Attack/Smear machine would tear Obama apart.

GAO: Bush lacks strategy to wipe out bin Laden sanctuary in Pakistan

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/34030.html

Another gem from McClatchy

2 in arow
lol
Looks like its revenge of the bureaucrat day.

Jack

Warren-----------------------

As I have posted many, many , many times - the Clinton campaign cannot attack Obama the way the Repubs would in the GE. Hillary has to try to maintain party unity. The Repubs can blast away - they don't need the Black or Left Wing vote.

This one is for you Gordo (and anyone else who is living outside the shelter)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJMnES7WoT4

(we serve beer instead of kool-aid - and yes - it is safe to drink ; )

Gordo Hillary is doing a grand job at maintaining party unity, can't you feel the love!

Brian-----------------

It could get much worse. I've heard some predictions that the Dem Party could split - the Clinton wing & the Black/Left wing would become separate political parties. It may reach that point. Dems are very angry at each other.

I guess Joe S couldn't handle Rachel M very well today. on David G's program.
Check it out ;)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/17/joe-scarborough-walks-off_n_97330.html

hope this isn' t old news

Oh Gordo for god's sake give it a rest, Obama will be elected and the world will heave a sigh of relief.

Brian,
i guess O-man pre empted Hills's crying jag with all his whining and complaining.

This an UPDATE from my 11:53 post:

Obama Stands Accused of Conduct Unbecoming a Presidential Candidate [Updates: Chicago Tribune, more MSM].

"I cannot believe that the official campaign for Barack Obama put this video on YouTube to show off the candidate. 1) His language and behavior on this video are juvenile, and 2) He flips off Hillary Clinton in the video.

I cannot recall hearing such whining in my life from the mouth of a major candidate. This man is incapable of withstanding criticism or handling difficult questions. He is not only defensive and inept in his excuses, but he is also petulant — and then he delivers “below the belt” attacks on Hillary Clinton, while condemning such tactics. Which is it, Barack? Are you for or against attack tactics? Or does it only work one way? And is that because YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH, mister (to quote Jack Nicholson, a Hillary Clinton supporter).

Further — as you’ll see below in a short clip, just below this longer video — he flipped off Hillary in a “street” sort of way. But it is undeniable — I have asked several people to confirm — that he indeed did give Hillary the finger, and it’s clear from the audience reaction that he did so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DygBj4Zw6No

Someone I know and respect, who’s both a highly successful businessman and a streetwise person, says definitively that Obama was giving Hillary the finger.

This is Barack Obama’s “Macaca Moment.”

If the MSM ever covers this, Barack Obama is through.

By god, if the Democratic party is stupid enough to nominate this not-ready-for-prime-time candidate who can’t take the heat, they deserve to lose in November."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/obama-stands-accused-of-conduct-unbecoming-a-presidential-candidate/

KO mentioned Jamie Raymond from Irondequoit, NY tonight. My sister told me about this yesterday as Jamie's a friend of my nephew. They all live in Irondequoit. KO even pronounced it correctly.

Make ya wonder what's wrong with those people, like we don't already know.

" A western New York soldier injured in Afghanistan has been called to duty in Iraq.

Veteran Jamie Raymond says he was shocked to hear the news he was being re-deployed. "

He has a wrecked knee and ear drum. He was there 4 freakin' years ago.

I hope that Louise Slaughter can and will do something.

http://www.wivb.com/Global/story.asp?s=8171980

As for debates....George didn't ask many, if any, salient questions. It was a piddling waste of time. They need someone oh like KO to do the asking, of the hard questions.

tt

G-man,
That's the most ridiculous story/video you've posted to date. I'm truly sorry if you really believe this crap.

Craig,

You should charge any blogger who chooses to spam you page with propaganda for any of the presidential candidates.

The content of this page has seen it's level of paranoia eclipse the levels of the administration itself.

Especially the late night hours seems to be infomercials for general quackery.

Gordo, any time some disagrees with your regurgitations, you deem us as unable to take the heat. You shouldn't reflect you own self doubt upon others.

If the Vice President can joke about telling a Senator to go fuck themselves on the senate floor, then flipping off another candidate, intentionally or not is a benign act at best. We could waste days detailing how all of the candidates have been less than gentile in their comments about one another.

Face it, these candidates suck. Nothing you say will convince someone else that your candidate of choice sucks less than their candidate. You may think Obama is a deceitful twit. Others think Clinton is a self agrandizing @#$@. McCain is just a power hungry fool who can't wait to masturbate in the oval office. THEY ALL SUCK. If we wanted to read No Quarter or any of your other tin hat sites, we would go directly there. We get it, this political hackery press coverage is like porn for you...great! Create your own page and post your paranoid delusions there.

I spent a better part of this evening trying to figure out why people in my community were more than willing to let a homeless man sit unprotected in a severe storm while grapefruit sized hail was falling from the sky. I haven't been this sickened since I had to watch someone in their early 20's wither away from brain cancer. At some point you will come to realize that these candidates, the media that covers them, and the people posting in support of them only want to exercise power for their own personal gain.

"The same video is also up at the Baltimore Sun’s site. That video, at both newspaper sites, provides a clearer angle of Obama’s finger as he makes the gesture."

(Look at 1:23 into the video)

http://weblogs.baltimoresunm/news/politics/blog/2008/04/obama_fingers_a_gotcha_debate.html

Oh Gordo that was the funniest thing I've seen in ages, thanks, I needed a good laugh.

GORDO,

I can tell you are dying to be able to do this so here are 2 clips for you...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=B29DV9ly6DE

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IEEHZdxkOfo&feature=related

Btw Gordo,

If you go to www.xtube.com and do a search for Bill Clinton, you can find the middle finger he gave Monica too...

Rezdog-------------------

Check out those links - this is spreading. It's on the sites of major newspapers - Chicago Tribune, Baltimore Sun, L.A. Times

Easy to tell from your posts that this has you worried. If it gets off the net and on TV - Obama is finished.

GORDO is nutso...LOL

Max,

You being a big Colbert fan, i'm sure you found his take on connecting Obama to Hitler fascinating. Can't believe you didn't come up with that first. You're getting slow, guy.

Just watched the video on the LA Times site.

Obama is an ignorant creep..

Obama is finished.

Gordo:

Read this:

Hillary Clinton On Southern Working Class Whites In 1995: "Screw 'Em"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/hillary-clinton-on-workin_n_97017.html

And then this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

G-man,
This is what you're down too. You Clinton folks are too much.

No Gordo, it's easy to tell from your posts that you're the one who's worried.

Superdelegates unswayed by Clinton's attacks
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/04/18/america/18dems.php

"...some interesting comments about working-class white Southerners who had left the Democratic party:"

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/clinton-on-work.html

( who had LEFT the Democratic party)

Howard Dean, the DNC and the so called “super” delegates need to step back and let the Democrats who vote decide this issue. There is the very visible jumping on the Obama band wagon by super delegates in the hopes that they will benefit from his seeming “wave of success” and that is disgusting. Talk about “pimping”. These folks are shameless. I remain baffled that the so called “super delegates” align with a person who has not won a major Democratic state and so far has demonstrated that his strength is channeling the speeches of truly great leaders. That these folks are buying the “press version” of this race is amazing. I’m disappointed in the so called “leadership” in NC as they don’t listen to the people but try to persuade the people. The people should lead. If we do, hopefully the leaders will follow. It's not over 'til it's over and there are millions more votes to count, including FL and MI.

I think I have finally nailed “why” I am extremely uncomfortable with BHO…his candidacy reminds me so much of GWB’s campaign and subsequent presidency. BHO does not allow intense questioning about his relationships or past. He seems beyond this sort of scrutiny, just like GWB. The minute someone doubts BHO’s experience, they are labeled a racist. For GWB, those who questioned him or his policies were unpatriotic. BHO is supported by a press that distorts or promotes as they see fit to elevate his status and experience (read Newsweek’s April 21st and the latest from Richard Wolffe and Michael Hirsh – these guys need to get a globe or take a class in geography as Latin America seems to be missing from their world). And he claims he is a uniter, not a divider. Sure sounds like Bush. From the subliminal message to outright propaganda, these two politicians are almost a mirror image of each other. Right and left. It reminds me of childhood and “pretend” games. So, I guess the media wants a pretend presidency again…phony and fake are easier than reality and it sure boosts ratings and circulation.

What blew me away was that he seemed shocked that he was asked those tough questions. Look, many of the questions were trivial compared to the real issues, but that's the way it goes. You have to be able to handle BOTH. You have to handle the ugly personal stuff along with the solid issues.

He acts petulant and beyond reproach. Big turn off to Americans.

Brian, what's happened to make you "bitter" besides the bitter stuff in the news?

tt

I'm, not bitter at all, see!