Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

I have to let my dog out...

I guess the invasion of the Craig-bashing Obamasnatchers are still posting on the last thread.

Who will beat McCain is a good question and the main one on my mind. The rest is the usual squabbling. When it's over Obama & Hillary with pat each other on the back. Hillary will kiss Bill and Obama will embrace The Reverend, again.

How do I know this? The woman who cut my hair is Vietnamese. You have to be of a certain age to get the analogy.

tt

I get it tiptoe...and I think HRC will be able to take down JMc. Bill Maher said it best on Friday night, why shouldn't HIllary stay in the race until the end? This is a close race and Obama hasn't enough delegates to win either. And anything can happen until convention.

I, however, am quitting for the night.

"But with this Wright thing, Obama is at odds with a number of important local, AA leaders across the country."-Jack

What do you have on this, I'm curious.

Yeah, Blondie, I'm glad ya get it.

tt

Boy, lots Obama sharks have been on this blog in the last 24 hours.

I know it isdifficult for them to watch the Obama mystique implode, but the incessant attack mode is becoming almost comical.

Boy, lots Obama sharks have been on this blog in the last 24 hours.

I know it isdifficult for them to watch the Obama mystique implode, but the incessant attack mode is becoming almost comical.

Yes, Hillary is up by 8 in Indiana - and she has BO down to 5 in NC...

They were sure rude to Craig also..

Julie

Julie..My thought is that if people want to attack Craig and question his integrity, they should stay off this blog.

The reason I camehere in the first placeis because Craig gives a unique perspective and isn't afraid to go against the conventional wisdom.

There have been times when I thought I would leave,but have deided to ignore the nuts and simply be bemused by them.

Hey OD

How did the sign holding go with the friends today?

Julie

It went very well..quitea bit of rain..we have weather changing every 15 minutes..

Lots of enthusiasm from drivers.. I've been spending as much time as I can at headquarters doing phone calling. So many volunteers..more and more phone lines being added.

Haven't seen an oregon poll recently. What do the chances for Hillary look like now ?

Wonder what the overseas press is saying about the Wright & Bo snaggle? I think it leaves a bad taste in the mouth - kind of like the Kris Kristoferson song - "tastes like an ashtray I'd been licking"...

I get the feeling Michelle may not like BO denouncing wright.. She was pretty enthusiastic in the one Wright video.
Jason should be along soon...
Julie

Albert Hoffman, inventor of LSD, dead at 102? See that, kids? DRUGS KILL!

Oh Albert...all those hours in high shcool library study hall, reading Kafka and listening to Dave Brubeck thru those lame-ass WalkMan headphones while my future husband sat across the table from me, attempting a glimpse down my top...rest in peace, man. You did me a world of good.

Haven't seen any recent polls. Obama was ahead by 11 several weeksago, but it seems to be tightening.

Chuck Todd on MSNBC did a big reversal last week and said that if Hillary could put enough money in here she might be able toturn the state around.

Her visit here and President Clinton'sthis week were very successful.

The Clinton campaignisobviously out hustling the Obama team, but Obama has tons of TV. We'll see.

She will win most of the state. I think her victory will depend on if she can cut down the Obama lead in Portland and Eugene.

Going to have to leave - night all

Julie

Hi Marcia..

There are a lot of interesting people on this blog. I get lots of good information.

I guess that to benefit from them I must put up with a certain degree of nonsense. ..A lot like the rest of life.

I think Obama is tanking very quickly. I'm worried that if somehow he still gets the nomination, we willlose in November.

Ithinki Hillary's chances are better each day. Several on this site have said for a long time that time isher best friend. I think that is true.

Obama came off very badly today. Someof is supporters appearing on television early in the day with some optimism, were very disheartened by the late evening ..

ThinkI better go to bed. I have to work in the mornig and will telephone for Hillary in afternoon.

Flying to NY today and then to Indiana for a day to do some campaigning. Just bought a ticket with airmiles. I figured...WTH...Let me go. Cannot sit back and only donate. Need to get out this lazy chair and go. Today we celebrate Queensday here in theNetherlands....

Media is all over the Wright Obama story... One headline was priceless: The Clinton comeback is again complete (subtitle) Why never to count out a Clinton)... ahhahahaha

Love it..

Be on the lookout for this black man in Indiana and NY folks...
On my way to make sure Hillary will be the nominee

Gotta go, flying in 4 hours...

Jason Queen's Day! OMG I got stuck in Amsterdam one year when the trains stopped running... What a party! LOL...

and the Academy Award goes to..Obama for best actor in a Dramatic Movie..best supporting actor Jeremiah Wright....scripted and rehearsed......

the other shoe, poised to drop............what will the Rev. start to say now about Barack's 20 yr history in Wright's church........Wright doesnt seem to be a guy who will simply back up and go away......

and we've yet to hear from representatives of black churches as to how they view the Rev. and the Rev's point of view that the "black church" is under attack. Looks like a number of black preachers are going to have some tv time coming........

One important WSJ feature from yesterday's paper (it deals with non-profit hospitals demanding cash up front before providing treatment):
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120942599600151137.html?mod=todays_us_page_one

And, in today's paper Rove has a really interesting profile of John McCain:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120951606847454685.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

Ah, the good Rev. had his fifteen. Now back to the steady run toward the nomination. Do you think Billary will drop out next week if she loses Indiana?

ha ha......you think the Rev is over? Stand by, Sidemeat.....the rest is yet to come........

Obama Baloney Alert: His Childhood “Racial Awakening” Was Actually A Novel

"Anybody who isn’t still swooning over the Incandescent One already knows that Barack Obama’s fictional autobiographical book, Memories I Pulled Out Of My Butt Dreams From My Father contains lies innacurate accounts.

Now we can add yet another Barack Obama Fuzzy Story to the list.

In Dreams, Obama refers to an article in Life Magazine that stimulated a huge revelation and racial-awakening in little Barry at age 9.

There was one problem with Barry’s “Racial-Awakening” story though. The Chicago Tribune couldn’t find a back issue of Life that contained that story. It just plain didn’t exist.. When questioned about it, Barack, being Barack, said, well maybe it wasn’t Life at all. Maybe it was Ebony. There was also no Ebony back issue that contained such a story.
Nice try but no Cigar for Barry."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/29/obama-baloney-alert-his-childhood-racial-awakening-was-actually-a-novel/

Oops, the link about hospitals in my last should be:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120934207044648511.html?mod=todays_us_page_one

But, the item I did point to was interesting, but not nearly as important about the Cash Before Chemo feature.

Very important: Someone please explain today's Google search engine graphic to me. Is it national, shiny object day?

Aw, Craig, but then the media would have to cover those pesky Clintons, again. They don't want to do that.

As for the "Fury!" photo...we have seen Obama be more furious before. He got a bit like George W Bush in the rose garden with the media a few months back. Probably the first time he wasn't thrown a softball.

Yesterday, he just seemed annoyed that he had to deal with the Rev issue. More dealing with ants-at-a-picnic than anything else...and way too late. The little buggers were already walking off with his sandwich.

I think Barack and Jeremiah should start an ice cream company together. Call it "Barry & Jerry's" The inventor of LSD died? When Hugh Hefner dies , it'll mean something to me. Never made the drug scene.

good morning gang....

after reading some of last nights comments...... I'm so heartened to see that Obama has such "nice" and "articulate" supporters..... now that's the way to unite this country......

Craig.... you must have the patience of Job.....

OD.... "almost" comical?...... I think all of this IS comical...... BTW.... thanks for reporting about your efforts on behalf of Hillary.....

the sun is shining..... the birds are singing.... my cats are purring..... all is right in my world.... may it be right in all of your's......

I just saw Andrea Mitchell on MoJo. She's traveling with the Obama campaign. Mika and Joe(and all the MSM) have been saying what a wonderful job Barack did yesterday--Andrea said on the stump last night he trivialized the whole matter-blamed it on Hillary and McCain-The whole thing is silly --and the subject was quickly changed.

Yeah , people get called "tools" here now. It's kinda like middle school.

New Clinton supporter is a potent symbol

"Easley is a meaningful ally in the culture war she's waging against Senator Barack Obama, as she seeks to cast him as a hopelessly unelectable liberal elitist and to persuade the Democratic Party leaders who will decide the nomination – the "superdelegates" – to choose her instead.

It’s an incredibly strong endorsement because Easley is popular among the blue collar 'Bubba' voters who are Democrats," said David "Mudcat" Saunders, a Democratic consultant who advised former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards and former Virginia Gov. Mark Warner on winning rural voters.

"He's clean in the culture. Easley's wrecked the Charlotte Motor Speedway doing 150 miles per hour, and Bubba likes that," said Saunders, referring to NASCAR fan Easley’s 2003 race car crash. “He's a hunter. He's a strong Second Amendment guy. He gives her great cultural validation in the state of North Carolina."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9939.html

"If you were a tool.......what kind of tool would you be?"

--Barbara Walters, updated.

Dem's PLEASE Keep BHO in the race and the nomination !! PLEASE

McCain / Romeny 08

Have not had time to read all of the posts...

The PING POINT..
BHO - What did the Rev say different this week then what he has been saying for 20 years? NOTHING ALL THE SAME.
So again, BHO is about Change....... Not the kind of change this country needs. I thought he was brighter...
Oh My

Sturge , are you from Denver?

corey......lived there a couple of years, but am from SC

Wino: Thank you for the relevant YouTube link last night...INVASION! I had to tune out before I saw it because the trolls were bugging me. I guess Craig's comments about the Florida rules got him linked somewhere, eh?

"Dem's PLEASE Keep BHO in the race and the nomination !! PLEASE"

Posted by: Ping Pong

Shame on you for saying "PLEASE".

People don't say please any more. They say, 'I'll stomp you in your face if you don't (enthusiastically) agree with me.'

Okay. Who's from Colorado , then? I know Bob , but who else? I thought someone here was an Avalanche fan.

Ping: I'll tell you EXACTLY what was different about the latest Reverend Wright remarks: This time he went after OBAMA. Wright can say whatever he wants about America, Hillary, Bill, Farrakhan etc. But once he went after Obama, that crossed the line. Apparently calling him a "politician" was the last straw.

Radical from '60s stoked by Barack

WASHINGTON – "He didn't bomb the Capitol or rob banks like his contemporaries in the Weather Underground.

But Carl Davidson, a former vice president of the Students for a Democratic Society who traveled to Cuba to meet with Fidel Castro and still praises the dictator today, is another proud radical for Barack Obama, serving faithfully as webmaster for "Progressives for Obama."

He joins his old SDS collaborator, Tom Hayden, who traveled with Jane Fonda to meet with Vietnamese communist leaders during the height of the Vietnam war. In fact, Fonda, too, Hayden's ex-wife, is part of Progressives for Obama."

(Yes, I know it is WND)

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=62917

probably dnd, who posts no more.......( I have no use for sports unless I'm playing them.....)

If you think the Clintons are not trying to sabotage Obama's election, here's how they sabotaged Kerry in 2004.

*****

Is this a variation on the tactic the Clintons reportedly tried last time around? While doing interviews for my book on Bill's post presidency, Clinton in Exile: A President Out of the White House, several of my sources mentioned Billary's work pushing General Wesley Clark for the nomination in 2004. The Clintons, according to this plot, knew that Clark, the retired NATO supreme allied commander, could not win. Bush would win in 2004 and Hillary would have an easy path to the nomination in 2008.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carol-felsenthal/billary-revisits-a-tactic_b_99199.html

Commies for Hillary?

*****

With 60s-era radicalism now a hot topic in the Democratic primary, it's worth noting the (amusing, ironic) history of Sen. Hillary Clinton's co-chief strategist Geoff Garin.

Philip Weiss, who attended Harvard with Garin more than 30 years ago, recalls that he was "a special guy -- softspoken, funny, brilliant. He was also a radical. In 1973, on an anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, Garin called for violent revolution in the United States" in the student paper, the Crimson:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/30/geoff-garin-clinton-chief_n_99336.html

Kerry sabotaged himself. Rev Wright is sabotaging Obama's election now. Yeah , I think it was DND. Thanks Sturge.

Huffington Post isn't biased are they?

Corey: That's the same line Clintons will use when McCain beats Obama, "He did it to himself."

read " MyAmericanValues.com"

Obama blew it with the weak speach when he had a chance to handle the Rev situation. Had he addressed the issue with the same strength as yesterday then it MIGHT have gone away. But the we all must be prepared to live with the TRUTH of our pasts

Well , Kerry was branded a flip-flopper.

strife without end, amen.

Congratulations Gordo,

You finally got me to look at a link because I was curious if it wasn't Life or Ebony then it was probably Jet or Sepia. About the second paragraph I thought that sounds like "Black Like Me" and that is apparently the source. It will be curious to see if the media picks up on that one the way they did the "sniper fire" of Sen. Clinton.

Here is the story as covered in the Star Telegram as well as No Quarters

http://www.star-telegram.com/metro_news/story/606929.html

ubns: I am trying to find video of what Andrea Mitchell said on MOJO and maybe the stump speech she is referring to as well. If Obama takes this back to being about Hillary and McCain and "silly season", he is making a grave tactical error. It will show his performance yesterday as being disingenuous (which, I believe it was.) Or, more to the point, it was a day late and a dollar short.

Apparently there were a lot of Obama people commenting last PM. I'll have to go and read that.

In the AM, the Obama people are usually outnumbered 10 to 1 by the KKK (Klinton Koolaid Klub).

Calm down. It's just a little harmless joke. I'm just playing the (white) race card.

that does it.........I'm plugging in the "Race Toaster"

I found the Andrea Mitchell clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fju_bC3qnrE

She states very clearly that Obama trivialized the issue on the stump last night, much to her surprise. She states that he seemed to blame McCain and Hillary once again for the whole issue. Unbelievable. Unfreakingbelievable.

Yeah , Nash. You'd like it here at night.

I just took a look at the comments on the last thread since 7PM last night. What I saw was a balanced discussion. Not always polite but many of the more extreme statements are probably not meant to be taken seriously.

re: the gas tax cut proposal

McCain and Clinton both support this. It's interesting how much of a Republican Hillary is becoming. (Every problem can be solved with a tax cut.)

McCain and Hillary both supported the Iraq war. This is another Republican idea. (Every problem can be solved by going to war with someone.)

Sturgeone

Pass the Blackberry Jam

mornin' all.

sturg, Ping, Ally....LOL. The coffee tastes a little better with your good humor this morning.

(and Corey, while CBob may have been from CO, he lived in TX).

Gordo, I'm really not all that bothered by Obama having the support of the radicals from the 60s. Fonda and Hayden got almost respectable - hell, she married Mr. CNN (one of my favorite boat drivers btw). They had to go somewhere politically, and Obama would probably be the least unattractive candidate to a late middle aged 60s ex-yippie. Aside from possibly Jerry Rubin, I would expect all of them to support the farthest left dem candidate. Obama really has little control over who supports him, but some of them may take some 'splainin' when the repug swiftites get a hold of him.

Do you think Roland Martin and Soledad O'Brien feel a little silly now that Obama has thrown Wright under the bus? They were so indignant on Saturday night: arms folded and arguing with the guests. This was going to be the moment that Wright proved himself to be a rational uniter and not a series of crazy YouTube clips. How's that going for them now that Obama has basically called Wright a Whackadoodle?

Ally: Andrea Mitchell is married to former Fed. Reserve chair Alan Greenspan, one of the most profoundly conservative Republican economists of his generation. Mitchell is just one more supposedly objective MSM "journalist" who is a covert right wing ideologue.

You Hillary people are blind to the fact that the conservatives are attacking Obama and supporting Hillary because they pretty sure they can beat her, but they're worried about Obama.

You're right , Nash. Look at how the Clinton and Obama supporters have gone to war with each other here and nobody has changed sides. Just hurt feelings and people leaving.

Clinton agrees to Missoula debate, Obama still mulling offer

HELENA - "Hillary Rodham Clinton on Monday accepted a weekly newspaper publisher's invitation to participate in a Lincoln-Douglas debate in Missoula, while her Democratic presidential rival Barack Obama's campaign said it was evaluating the offer.

"Montanans deserve a chance to hear where Senator Obama and I stand on important issues that matter to them before they cast their votes in June,” said Clinton, a senator from New York. “A Lincoln-Douglas debate in Missoula would give them the opportunity to see up-close our positions on health care, the economy, education, alternative energy and the other crucial issues affecting their communities.”

http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2008/04/29/news/local/news03.txt

Nash: You have GOT to be kidding me that Andrea is in the tank for a Hillary victory. Have you been watching MSNBC for the last three months? She goes out of her way to be snarky about Hillary. The Clinton supporters on this blog hurl insults at Andrea on a DAILY basis. You Obama People are spinning with this latest Barack flip. I know it's confusing for you (Wright Good. Now Wright Bad. Must keep up.)

And by the way, you don't have to train me on who Andrea is married to. I am well aware.

What do you think Wright is going to do in the next few days? I think one of the networks or shows like Inside Editition or Entertainment Tonight are going to get him to respond. I can't see him sitting on the sidelines now.

Clinton courts the homophobic vote: her surrogate, NC governor Easley, says Hillary is no "pansy."

http://www.americablog.com/2008/04/hillarys-top-nc-surrogate-bashes-gays.html

Maybe other pastors on both sides are going to be giving their opinions on this and could make this spin out of control.

The Obama vs Wright drama reminds me of a Laurel and Hardy movie where Stan receives a telegram in which he is told he will receive a great fortune on one condition: If he leaves Ollie behind forever. Stan decides to not only leave Ollie behind , but take their dog with him as well. Ollie cannot believe Stan would leave him AND take their dog. He begins singing: o/' You'll be sorry much too late , when our friendship turns to hate...o/' He continues to sing this until Stan changes his mind.

Good morning nash, pogo. To stop all this enthusiasm for a new and greater day, I am posting this reminder . When the lyric "...there's a hole in Daddy's arm, where the money goes..." comes around, I just think of the hole in Uncle Sam's arm where our taxes go, and you know what that hole is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OwEyXFhZ9g

This should be fun to watch tonight.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/29/hillary-clinton-to-appear-on-the-oreilly-factor/

Go Wings , Pistons and Tigers , eh Dex?

pogo ---------------------------

"but some of them may take some 'splainin' when the repug swiftites get a hold of him."

Exactly! It fits into a narrative - "Obama is just too extreme for America." Repubs like to use the word EXTREME in attack ads against Dems.

Go Pens! 7 in a row.

Maybe Oprah can arrange for Dr. Phil to do an intervention with Barack and Jeremiah. Heal the wounds and such.

That would be a great show.

barack shoulda split when oprah did.......

Maybe Britney can come too. And maybe those crazy violent cheerleaders from Florida that a Dr. Phil staffer bailed out of jail. And maybe Miley Cyrus and her naughty photos. The list of needing healing is long and Dr. Phil's schedule is wide open.

welcome to newcomers, and thanks to RealClearPolitics Evening Edition for linking us yesterday: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2008/04/29/index.html

hope some of the newbies will stick around and engage the daily debate around here

Sturge,

A Swiss Army Knife: I can do a lot of things well in a pinch, but in every case there's some tool around that does that job better.

It's almost May 1st and after 15 months we still don't know much about Obama. Something is wrong with this picuture.

Corey: It's HEAVEN! Last night Franzen continued his magic and Datsyuk's and Zetterberg's goals were beautiful works of art. And
Ozzie just stands on his head for about 55 minutes a game. Of course the Tigs beat the damn Yankees, and then Rasheed came back with a vengeance and the Pistons clobbered Philly...it's the best of all times...all three teams kicking ass at once in the greatest sports town in America!
DEE-troit!

Since Hillary's surrogates are gay bashing, I guess it's only fair to consider those persistent rumors: is Hillary a lesbian?

Remember, Clinton fans of swiftboating, it doesn't have to be true. As long as the MSM covers the "story," the damage is done.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/2/201720/2271/270/467568

The Pens will be beat the Wings.

If being a lesbian gets her as much fame, fortune and goodwill as it got Ellen, I say hurray! I don't see how that rumor would hurt her...I am too much of a rube to figure it out.

Rez.

"What do you have on this, I'm curious"

Rez,

A number of little things.
HRC's AA supporters are speaking favorably about Wright or trying to dampen the feeding frenzy.
Everything about the NAACP meeting from the introduction I posted yesterday onward looked like a rallying of the AA community around Wright. Obama and the national press are trying to say this "attack on the black church" is just a ego driven idea by Reverend Wright but I'm begining to think there may be broader support for the idea in the AA community.

Jack

Okay , Vadaryl. We'll see. They both have to get there first.

vadaryl

There is simply too much about Sen. Obama that seems to be a purposefully constructed image rather than a real person. I've known many people who did this ... create a person they wanted to be and then lived the image. After a certain point even they don't know who is real and who is reel. This latest bit about his book is just one more example.

It doesn't make him a bad person or even an incompetent one, but it does mean that ambition far outweighs all other considerations. Wright was needed until he wasn't needed. This will be the fate of anyone who messes with the image.

It's not May Day quite yet...today is April 30. Thirty-three years ago today the war against the people of Vietnam ended when the US was run out of Saigon, people scrambled for helicopter rides out , on top the US Embassy, and helicopters were shoved off carriers into the South China Sea.
We finally quit that war when Congress cut off ALL funding, then came the last hectic months of retreat and evacuation, culminating in the April 30, 1975 finality.
That's all Congress has to do, you know? They just have to cut off the dollar drain to Iraq to end the war. They have no intention on doing it. McCain and Hillary and Obama all support keeping that white-elephant US Embassy in Iraq, for starters. We're stuck.

Barack is just sticking around to sabatoge Hillary's campaign so he can run again in 2012.

Jamie: Or, he is just a person who doesn't know himself very well.

Craig...
I wouldn't get your hopes up too high...... looks like most of last night's traffic was just a drive-by fruiting.....

Dex..... great to see you, my friend.... now that the Bruins be no more.... I'm rooting for your Red Wings....

and now a word from our sponsor.....

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vadaryl:
Penguins seem to be unstoppable, but by the way the Red Wings are destroying the Avs...at least maybe the poor little Wings might win one game. Too bad the Rangers crashed and burned....poor Blueshirts....

I must be a lesbian too , because I like women!

RR

That Mr. Mom scene has to be one of the best. : )

The Pens are on a roll, I just hope they did not peak to soon.

New Poll Shows Clinton Tough for Obama to Shake
The latest daily Gallup tracking poll shows Hillary Clinton up 1 point over Barack Obama in a national head-to-head match-up, 47-46 percent. ...

we all know Senator Clinton killed her lesbian lover
Vince Foster.

Nash: Maybe you could find a real scandal. Park yourself outside her house in Chappaqua and see if she recycles. Now that would be a REAL story.

Dex,

Baseball is not very democratic. Yeah, Detroit had more guys win the big states by touching home, but the Yanks should have more delegates because we had more runners touch third, second, and first.

Next , you'll be saying the SDs are for the Yankees! LOL!

"looks like most of last night's traffic was just a drive-by fruiting -- posted by RebelliousRenee"

ah, but RR, many a valued regular started out here as a drive by

Obama is scripted in every way. He does not project himself as person with personal confidence or a strong sense of self. He does not seem to be able to just "be." To speak, what he thinks, at a movements notice without a script.

Much like an actor playing a part, reading the lines written for a man who should be president . That is when Obama truly appears comfortable.

imo

Craig: Thank you for explaining what was going on. I was confused at the outrage expressed by some over one of your less "controversial" posts. I apologize to any people I might have called "trolls" because I started as a drive-by. (I didn't call anybody a troll to their face...just behind their back. I was gossiping. Even worse.)

EDVb: How novel! The popular vote (runners on base) means NOTHING! Who crosses home plate in Denver? That's what matters! Nice concept!

I bet Wright takes Obama words and uses them as a catapult for more press. He has built his life career on his ministry and to have the someone so popular, someone he mentored, throw him under the bus - What an opportunity.

I bet Rev Wright is just seeing dollar signs floating in front of his eyes, book deals, speaking deals, maybe Tv church deal...only in America.

Ellen was really funny yesterday.....the "interview" segment.

Jamie,

I remember when the book "Black Like Me" was in the local papers. There was a big firestorm of newspaper articles. It was about the time of the Civil Rights Marches. The author did darken his skin not the other way around. It is easy to confuse that point, I would imagine.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Barack has integrity, Hillary has NONE. It would be a tragedy of immense proportions if that horrible woman ever got back in the White House. She is a liar and a fraud.!!!!!

Why do you think Michelle Obama appears so infrequently in the media? Seems she doesn't get the same 'look' as the other candidate's spouse.

And Craig: The reason I might have called some posters "trolls" is because they were rude to the host. I am a little old-fashioned that way. Respectful disagreement and dialogue goes down a little easier with me.

"I might have called some posters "trolls" is because they were rude to the host. I am a little old-fashioned that way. Respectful disagreement and dialogue goes down a little easier with me. -- Posted by: Ally"

i do agree that respectful debate is more edifying, but i never mind getting bashed. consider me the straw man.

I've noticed that on cable news coverage today Hillary is talking about how to address problems with concrete colutions. She evidences a true empathy for the problems Americans face.

Obama is primarily dealing with the Wright issue.

Whether fair or unfair, thiscan't be helpful for him in the upcoming primaries.

solutions, not colutions

Indiana latest polls

RCP Average 04/20 - 04/28 -- 46.4 44.2 Clinton +2.2
PPP (D) 04/27 - 04/28 1347 LV 50 42 Clinton +8.0
SurveyUSA 04/25 - 04/27 628 LV 52 43 Clinton +9.0
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/in/indiana_democratic_primary-639.html

OK. I won't fight your battles for you...that would be emasculating anyway. There is still something unnerving about the way anonymity makes people feel comfortable using the most vile language on the Internets.

I have some news to possibly share at the end of the week and will look forward to some feedback from the well traveled/educated regulars and host. Stay tuned!

Anybody getting seasick?

Gallup Daily

http://www.gallup.com/poll/106888/Gallup-Daily-Clinton-47-Obama-46.aspx

unlikely B,

I doubt if it is the first time that the good Reverend has been disappointed in one of his flock. Remember In Chicago, the Reverend Wright is more important than Obama. As far as the black community, Obama may represent their dreams but Reverend Wright and other ministers like him are their foundation.

Jack

Just a couple of thoughts this morning...

The Father of LSD sure had a long trip.

Ally -- I found a pod by my computer this morning.

Jason -- "Glue Speed" to you.

BHO and GWB are mirror images.

Andrea Mitchell did marry "up," but is now suffering from Botox Leak.

And finally, if the Clintons were that powerful to influence the Kerry candidacy, the Rev. Wright situation, etc., she'd have the nomination by now.

I don't really know much about Michelle Obama.

I don't know why she seems to be less acive on the campaign trail.

But, I do notice in conversations with people, there is often a negative reaction to her. When pressed, there are very few specifics.

My unscientific theory is that some people just don't like her because she comes accross as strong with strong opinion...and she is a woman.

We see a lot of this same type of nonsense aimed toward Hillary on a daily basis here.

Wino: Girl, you are ON this morning!

OD....I knew Jackie Kennedy and believe, Michelle Obama, you are no Jackie Kennedy.

Dooty

"It is easy to confuse that point, I would imagine."

I imagine it might be. Since I haven't read Sen. Obama's book, I don't know how he characterized it. From the description in the newspaper article, it would seem that he either didn't read "Black Like Me" or he chose to "misremember" the incident. It is a minor thing except for the way that Sen. Clinton was treated because she "misremembered" an incident until the reality was revealed.

I can see where someone warned of sniper fire and a corkscrew landing would remember it as being part of an event and tell it as an interesting story. I can see where a young man looking for an identity could see a dramatic photo in a black oriented magazine and make it part of a description in an autobiography. The question is, will the media treat the two "phony" events the same?

Jamie,

I can remember what happened in 1995 and 96 much easier than in the early 1960's. I suspect he may have not read the book and heard someone talking about it.

yo soy Horsedooty!

I think that he reason the Rev. Wright has said such outrageous things is because he is jealous of Barack and maybe doesn't want him to be President. Otherwise why would he be such a negative for Barack? Also he has a huge ego and loves the attention. This will not hurt Barack in the long term He will still get more delegates and be the Democratic nominee.

STOP THE DRAMA QUEEN, VOTE OBAMA !!!!!

Obama appeared downcast as he denounced the Honorable Rev. Wright who like his grandmother he aptly threw under the bus for political expediency. I admire Obama's nobility in seizing upon Wright's indefensible comments after waiting {four days} submissively as to how the polls were driving the controversy. Wright's histrionics and Injurious comments to the nation was subordinate to those of Obama's ambition, and the Rubicon was crossed when Wright called Obama out with a simple truth "He's a politician. "

toast

here is a counter point to the Clinton/McCain gas tax relief suggestions for the summer. Tom Friedman is the author.

It is not a long article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/opinion/30friedman.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Another Super for Hillary:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/30/clinton-adds-third-new-superdelegate-in-24-hours/

"I admire Obama's nobility in seizing upon Wright's indefensible comments"

What indefensible comment?

Jack

KY Survery Poll Numbers:

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=26808902-2e9b-462b-86bf-a023fae70b92

Gee Whiz Skylark

What did Hillary ever do to you, give your child rabies or something?

I probrably respect Tom Friedman less than just about anyone in the press.

Franklin Roosevelt understood that in time of difficulty you had to be innovative.

You had to provide BOTH shortterm relief and longterm reform.

Hillary Clinton understands that...

The immediate suffering of people is not trivial.

Did the mustache of understanding ask for six more months for gas prices to come down. It takes some nerve for Friedman, the war monger and multi millionaire kept husband to complain about others solutions gas taxes.

The cause of the high gas prices is the war in Iraq and the excuses it has given to speculators. Friedman enver takes responsibility for his role and his continuing to give the war and Bush the benefit of the doubt.

Friedman has no credibility,. None. Just like his neighbors on the editorial page, Kristol and others he is more about making himself look good.

Plus he conflates the McCain and Clinton proposals which are not the same.

dex, old friend - I can't open youtube, but John Prine in the morning - what a great way to inject a dark reality into an otherwise happy day. Sam Stone is one of my favorite JP songs - a good buddy of mine opened for JP in Tuscaloosa back in the late 80s. Prine was drunk off his ass and could barely keep the head up, feet down stance, but he put on a great concert. And I like the tie-in with the end of Vietnam, fall of Saigon. There's a certain theme to yoru posting this morning.

Gordo - or he can ignore it, as if he;s above all that now that he's denounced the good reverend. Guess he was just wrong when he said he could no more denounce him than he could denounce his white grandmother (I guess mom doesn't count) simply because of the despicable things he said before - of course as was astutely pointed out above, those comments weren't about him. But calling him a politician - that's just too much. As Bugs said, "You know, of course, this means war."

After Hillary on Bill O'Reilly at 8 of FOX then Michelle Obama speaks out to Anderson Cooper on CNN about the Wright controversy. How it's affecting the family and her husband's campaign, tonight at 10 ET.

What a night!

OD

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Pogo...and the 'little black duck' told Bugs he was "dispicable!"

In Kentucky, Obama is about as popular as flies at a picnic..

Corey, damn, I must be a lesbian, too. I didn't realize that all it took was liking women (yes, in THAT way). For some reason, I thought you had to be born with a clitoris to be a lesbian. And here I thought you were just one more horny guy looking for a date.

Did I spell "flies" correctly?? Off to telephone for Hillary.

Blondie, that was Daffy - and it is pronounced "disthpppicable."

Jack, what nobility?

I don't know about some of the new folks. When they start addressing messages to people who don't exist, you have to wonder.

Who's Kooky?

If Obama wants the Wright thing to go away then he better make sure that Michelle does not say to much about it. If she rattles the cage some more then it may just cause Wright to go off again if he has not said anything before she shows up.

vad - do you really care how the Wright issue is affecting the Obama family? I can offer an alternative - the Cavs and Wazards - game 4 tonight. Will Ben Wallace wear cornrows or his afro? Will Lebron score >30? These are interesting things to ponder - and can be answered by watching the Cavs tonight.

whether or not Friedman has any cred is not the point. The point is that for the summer if you buy, oh, say 20 gallons of gas a week in a fill up, you save about $9 per tank full. If the summer season is considered 12 weeks, multiply 9 x 12 = 108, so is that enough of a savings for you to even jack with? How will you spend your windfall? Bags of Rice? 1/10 of the mortgage pay down? It is smoke and mirrors folks.

yo soy Horsedooty!

No I don't really care how it's affecting their family but TV soap opra wise I hope she rattles the cage and Wright reacts to it. The real soaps are make believe this is real!.

Kooky,

Just noticed your Andrea I love Obama Michel report.

Your sentiments are right on the mark.

Goebbels at work. The Reichstag is next and Andrea will bring the matches.

Good morning.

nick

I would think her Jewish heritage would strongly disagree.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Pogo...sorry you missed our posts about Daffy Duck -- the 'little black duck' is another phrase used for Daffy Duck (I am a true devotee of Warner Bros. cartoons)

The latest from BHO's campaign to HRC

http://www.stuporduck.com/sounds/DS001.wav

Posted by: Blonde wino | April 24, 2008 9:32 PM

Jamie: Me Kooky. Nick has renamed me because the other night I said, "Call me kooky but..." I like my new name! I am a little off...

Vad: Anderson ADORES Obama. He won't let Michelle get off the tracks. No worries there.

There is always some hope!

If she had any guts then she should also show up on FOX.

vad, you don;t think that sending the wife out to Larry King to talk about it is a good way to make it go away? Come, now, man.

Why isn't Friedman suggesting Bush "jawbone" big oil
as JFK did with big steel.

Friedman is a self indulgent ass who is as much responsible for the fallout from the war as anyone.
He should resign in disgrace not continue to provide more bullcrap.

Well, I got all the Clinton supporters to spring to Hillary's defense arguing that she's NOT a lesbian.

See how is easy it is to frame the debate by swiftboating?

Today's top story on MSNBC: "Supporters deny rumors that Hillary Clinton is a lesbian."

"I admire Obama's nobility in seizing upon Wright's indefensible comments"

What indefensible comment?

Jack

Posted by: whskyjack

Unless Wright has proof regarding his AIDS comment his statement his no merit IMO, but it is defensible and I should not have used that term.

toast

I think it is crazy for her to be out on any show today. If the reporter was doing his job and she showed up then she is fair game!

Corey...you must be have seen the 'L Word' on Showtime....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-word

In season 1, Alice is dating a man who is a lesbian.

Obama and cocaine
did he or didn't he. Is his whole story fake.
Is he the James Frey of politics
he never did drugs? He never agreed with Wright.

Why isn't Oprah springing to his defense.

Why isn't Friedman suggesting Bush "jawbone" big oil
as JFK did with big steel.
sagely written by "Do nothing much better"

because Bush would not do it. Lame Duck Bush is just riding out the string. Complaining that the Dem Congress is to blame for this economy when it is his policies that have put us in the shape we are in.

Who is Do nothing much better anyway. Another drive by or a serial name changer?

yo soy Horsedooty!

hd, we agree on the gas tax holiday. I think it's stupid, although because of our jobs and living on the edge of the world in WV, we use a lot more gas than that. I could save enough in that 12 weeks to buy the new bass I want, and I still think it's a bad idea. But then again, McCain proposed it, so who does that surprise?

Um, I read the Clintonistas response a little different. Something between, "We love the lesbians!" to "Who cares?" to "We're lesbians too—let's have a Dr. Pepper."

Ally

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nScqUlojDrs

77 Sunset Strip

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051247/

nash, you didn't get me - for a few reasons - it's bullshit, I like lesbians, and whose business is it anyway?

Just announced: first quarter GDP growth 0.6% This is weak but not recessionary.

Most people THINK we are in a recession because most of the income resulting from the GDP increase is going to the top 20%. Middle and lower class mortgages are in default but Exxon's profits are soaring.

Mission Accomplished.

Jamie: Cute. Very cute. Me likey.

ally, you left out "That's just repug bullshit."

And to add to the windfall profits of a whopping $108 How many roads will continue to erode and not get repaired this summer. That money is what is used to pay for road repair. We, too, can become a third world country. How many road repair workers will not be hired this summer because the money was not collected? 200,000 300,000. I guess you just don't care because your Ox is not being gored.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Ally...some great photos of Edd Burns "Kookie"...especially the one without the shirt and a towel around his neck.

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3378681856/nm0126318

Duh...make that Edd Brynes.

Over the past 27 years (since Reagan took office) the Republicans have radically restructured the US economy, undermining the lower and middle classes, to benefit the upper class. (Free trade, weakened labor unions, reduced benefits, permitting of illegal immigration, deregulation, lowering of business taxes, lowering income tax on the upper class, etc.)

Neither Hillary nor Obama have really strong policies to change the way our economy works. All they propose is minor fixes, not a fundamental restructuring. Edwards probably had the best economic policy proposals, but he couldn't get much traction with them.

Maybe if he plays his cards right with his endorsement, and gets to be VP, he might be able to do some good.

Clinton calls for windfall profit tax on the oil companies
How convenient of you to leave that out.

Just because Bush won't do something is not a reason to take it off the table. No wonder the Democrats are considered spineless.

Democrats are about to give Bush the largest war budget yet. Where is the outrage about that. With that money we could all have free gas.

Thanks Wino!

Pogo: Some of these accusations confuse me because I just don't get what's wrong with being a lesbian (or Muslim for that matter.) And I believe when people react with righteous indignation to these rumors, it gives validation to the idea that being gay or Muslim is somehow "bad."

nash - your GDP post is consistent with the MSGobama poll reported this moring - 81% said we are in a recession. Please don't try to tell me Dumya is right - that we are just in a slowdown.

pogo: We could be in a recession right now. The first quarter ended in March and we're just getting the data now. We won't know if we're in a recession right now until....the end of June.

Whoops. Make the "end of July."

KOOKIE, KOOKIE (LEND ME YOUR COMB)
Edward Byrnes & Connie Stevens

CONNIE: Kookie, Kookie, lend me your comb. Kookie, Kookie?
EDWARD: Well now, let's take it from the top & grab some wheels
& on the way we'll talk about some cuckoo deals.
C: But Kookie, Kookie, lend me your comb. Kookie, Kookie?

E: Now you're on the way, miss, & I'm readin' you just fine.
Don't cut out of here till we get on Cloud 9.
C: But Kookie?

E: I've got smog in my noggin ever since you made the scene
C: You're the utmost!
E: If you ever tool me out...dead, I'm the saddest, like a brain
C: The very utmost. Kookie, lend me your comb. Kookie, Kookie?

E: Man, I got my bruise lighters in my flapsy-colored pen
You're gonna send me to that planet called...you know it, baby, the end!

(sax solo)

C: Kookie, Kookie, lend me your comb. Kookie, Kookie?
E: If you ever cut out, you might be a stray cat
'Cause when I'm flyin' solo, nowhere's we're on that!
C: Kookie, Kookie, lend me your comb. Kookie, Kookie?

E: What's with this comb caper, baby? Why do you wanna latch up with my comb?
C: I just want you to stop combing your hair...& kiss me. You're the maximum utmost.
E: Well, I beans & I dreams goin', I'm movin' right now
'Cause that's the kind of scene that I dig...baby, you're the ginchiest!

Let's review.

Taxes and especially taxes in a sensetive area are always subject to media and politial manipulation.

Schwarzenegger is governor of California because of his false claims about the vehicular licensing tax.
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2006/10/04/its-ok-to-vote-for-foley-florida-elections-officials-say/?p=4560

Facts have nothing to do with what people "feel " is true. One way to take them off the table is agree and move on. No action is going to be taken by either side.

I read Mrs Obama's Princeton thesis. It gave me a much better appreciation of what she was like coming out of college. To me, she seemed like a nice young woman, somewhat confused and conflicted about the world around her and the significance of her race in that world.

The links to the thesis are in the first page of the Politico article:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8642.html

She drew many conclusions in the thesis but did not use statistical tools in supporting those conclusions (many of which are probably true despite the lack of statistical support).

If I was her prof I would probably have given her a low B. My grade would have been higher if she had demonstrated a competence in the use of research tools.

My lasting impression is that she is exactly the type of individual who could find appeal in the type of message presented by Pastor Wright. I say that not because I see some failing, but because I sense her need for greater identity.

IF we do not hear more from Rev Wright, then the whole thing begins to look like a put-up job. I do not remember the source, but read an interview with Wright some time ago in which he stated that the two of them (Wright and Obama) had long agreed that the time would come when Obama would have to denounce Wright.
What's going on here is a battle for the soul of the Democratic Party...the left-wing radical peaceniks vs the lunch-bucket bread and butter working class types.

What I find odd is how many Obama supporters compare him to JFK. Politically, JFK would most likely have been in the Hillary camp...his stance on Defense was actually to the right of Nixon.

Ally, the righteous indignation reaction of many (my own is purely playful because it is such crap) is because it is an unfair, unfounded comment meant to be a slam that will be considered a bad thing if true by large numbers of voters to counter reasonably legitimate criticism of Obama and his continued bumbling handling of the Wright shit. Socially liberal folks couldn't care less if Hillary is or is not a lesbian, but they don't make up the majority of the electorate. It ain't the lesbian part of the accusation that is being responded to - it's the bullshit part of it.

Clinton calls for windfall profit tax on the oil companies
How convenient of you to leave that out.

more drive by stuff

I left it out because it was not in the article I referenced. I would have assumed if you had actually read the article you would have known that. Someone I know said, "If a position is contrary to Clinton's, the only response is an ad homenim attack. This is the sort of behavior one sees with cult members." That seems to be your position.

Pogo,
We here in Tx drive a lot too because there has been no infrastructure built for public transportation like in the larger cities on the east coast. Here everything is pretty far a part if you want to go somewhere you need a vehicle. Where I used to live my nearest neighbor was about a 1/2 mile away. The nearest store was about 8 miles away.

yo soy Horsedooty!

To Corey

"Barack is just sticking around to sabatoge Hillary's campaign so he can run again in 2012."

BOY DO YOU HAVE THIS BACKWARDS !!!!!!

STOP THE DRAMA QUEEN VOTE OBAMA!!!

Nash, as you undoubtedly know, and should stipulate, that figure is preliminary and may be grossly inaccurate.

Breaking news on Faux News....Obama supporter gone wild! Sex offender has plastered house with Obama graffiti..

Oh dear, is the end near?

I can't find the link, but it is on tv now.

By the way, did anyone take note of the fact that Bush just put a second aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf?

My prediction: Bush will launch an air attack against Iran in October, timed to influence the U.S. election in November.

War hysteria = McCain wins.

Pogo: Sometimes I cannot believe this is 2008 and some people give a hoot about who is sleeping with who (or is it whom?). But I know you're right.

{And I didn't think for a minute that the idea of two women having sex sent YOU over the edge.}

Flatus -- with regard to Mrs Obama's thesis. Wonder if you have ever read the transcript of Sen Clinton's Wellesley commencement address? The young woman who gave that address must still be living inside Sen Clinton's soul, but she seems far removed from her current public persona.
What is interesting is that both she and Sen Obama have ties to radical thinkers in their past ...hers more distant than his, of course. And both of them worked for peanuts in public service when they left law school. In HRC's case it may have had more to do with the times and her gender...prestigious law firms were notoriously resistant to female lawyers in those days.

nash, I'm no economics genius, but aren't there a number of different measures other than just GDP out there used to determine whether we are or are not in a recession? I saw some economists discussing it a month or so ago and they threw around several different ones, - jobs growth, durable goods orders, that sort of thing - and on some of the measures they said we are, on some they said we aren't, so they concluded that we are on the edge of one, leaning in and out of it. All I know is that if you work for a living, you probably feel like it's a recession - if you invest for a living, maybe, maybe not.

hd, I feel your pain. e.g. Mrs. Pogo had to drive 120 miles r/t to attend a 10 minute hearing this morning. my recent depo trips have been 240 mi r/t.

When I read Mrs Clinton's letters to a friend written while she was still at Wellesley, I was reassured. They helped me believe that she is the genuine article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/29/us/politics/29letter.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Clinton-McCain gas tax holiday slammed as bad idea

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/usa_politics_gastax_economists_dc

flatus: I only "know" what I read in the NYTimes.

If a tree falls in the forest, will it be turned into newsprint?

Politico.com has an article about BHO will be on Meet The Press Sunday for a full hour.. Seems he will recount a "near death experience".. What will be next?

What's up doc?

Julie

Ally, I wish I thought that's what 2008 brought, but look at yesterday's reaction to the NC governor's use of the word pansy as being homophobic. This is not an issue that has passed yet - it is probably a hotter issue for more folks than race is.

And Ally, I believe it is whom.

"By the way, did anyone take note of the fact that Bush just put a second aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf?"

This was not another carrier, it was a replacement for a carrier going home. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT !!!!!

Flatus:

Can you really believe a woman wearing those pants . . .

Pogo: My kids really noticed the difference in sexual orientation rhetoric when we moved to Iowa from the West Coast. It was palpable. So I do get it. I just don't like it.

pogo: The technical definition of a recession is "two consecutive quarters of negative growth."

So, we won't know if there's a "official" recession until the end of October, assuming we have negative growth in the 2nd and 3rd quarters (April - September.)

This means that (insert dramatic drum roll) the first official announcement of a recession could come only days before the November election. (Assuming there is negative growth in the 2nd quarter, which would be announced in July.)

nash , I heard that about the ACC to the Gulf this morning - Gates said it wasn't to threaten Iran, it was just to "remind" them. Right, as if they needed reminding that we have mobile fighting platforms. Right. What is it they tell police trainees - don't pull your gun unless you plan to use it?

Perhaps I should introduce myself, since I hope not to be a drive-by.
I am an old white lady. I support Sen Clinton -- and yes, it has to do with gender. I may not live long enough to ever again cast a vote for a female for President.
I am a life-long Democrat. Except that I voted for Gerald Ford in 1976 and do not regret my vote. IMHO, all things being equal, it is better to vote for the person who knows how Washington works than for the starry-eyed idealist who hopes to change everything.
I voted for Rev Jackson in 1984 and 1988 primaries and while I do not regret my vote, I do regret the changes to the proportional delegate division that he engineered as the price of his support for the Democratic ticket.
It does not strike me as just that certain groups should be over-weighted in primaries based on past voting records.
Craig, since you know so much about Dem politics, I wonder if you have ever blogged about this anomaly. This voter weighting, in combination with the absurdity that the vote of a caucus goer in Wyoming is worth about 10x the vote of an actual voter in California is what has actually led to Sen Obama's insurmountable delegate count.

warren, you in some kind of internet cafe in Costa Rico?

God, Warren, you spend a couple of weeks in Central America and you come back a sexist.

I see a future president in those pants; but, I see a woman reflected in the eye's of her daughter when she looks at her.

Skylark - that's not how Gates framed the movement of the carrier, although you may be correct.

Flatus: I see a future president in those pants; but, I see a woman reflected in the eye's of her daughter when she looks at her.

Beautiful sentiment expressed there. So exactly right.

Skylark: you are right, I was wrong. The aircraft carrier is just a replacement. (Another great paranoid theory goes up in smoke.)

Does the name skylark indicate that you are a former "squid?"

Greetings, maggisd, and I'm an old white guy who hopes he lives long enough to see a woman as president.

I will read Mrs Clinton's Wellesley commencement address.

Welcome, maggisd

You seem quite eloquent and have reminded me to get my head out of the National Inquirer mentality.

don't know much about this group and the web site is kinda poor but I saw yesterday on CNN where a couple of brothers modified a Toyota Pries to get 100 miles per gallon of gas for about 3 or 4K. If a couple of Gen-X types could do that in their home garage, makes sense that the big Auto makers could also do that.

http://pluginproject.com/

yo soy Horsedooty!

Dooty

I saw that modification as well. It looked perfect for the family run abouts to market etc. since anything under 15 miles used no gas at all.

My only question on the plug in part was how expensive was the draw on household electricity.

Even having one carrier group inside the Strait of Hormuz is itching for a fight. And is stupid, to the extreme, should hostilities with Iran materialize. Within that confined space the carrier group completely loses its ability to maneuver stealthily.

And, since Rumsfeldian days, the Administration has talked about putting two carrier groups on the wrong side of the Hormuzian choke point.

Welcome Maggie

You have lots of company here in the "this may be my last chance" group for HIllary including myself. I had an Aunt Maggie and she was a pistol, so it is always a name that makes me smile.

To nash:

I guess I'm not a former "squid" because I don't know what you are referring to...

jamie said, "My only question on the plug in part was how expensive was the draw on household electricity."

good point and I don't have an answer to it.

yo soy Horsedooty!

way I heard it was Rupert Diesel invented a motor to run on peanut or vegetable oil so that farmers could grow their own fuel, but after he disappeared during a transatlantic crossing his engine was converted to petroleum and the beat went on.

maggisd..... welcome to the blog....
I am a middle aged white woman who supports Clinton because of her experience upon the world stage....

Jamie..... I've never seen Mr. Mom..... the "drive-by fruiting" reference was from Mrs. Doubtfire....

yeah..... but..... Craiiiiiiiig, Naaaaaash..... what we really want to know is if you both wanna be lesbians too........

skylark: "Squid" is a slang term referring to sailors in the US Navy. We called the Marines "Jarheads" and they called us "Squids."

"Skylark" is also an old Navy slang term, referring to sailors who are goofing off. "You men stop skylarking and get back to work."

Jamie,

here is a page that might help some to explain the costs of overnight charging and the like.

http://www.pluginpartners.com/plugInHybrids/economicBenefits.cfm

I think I read that the figures used were done when gas was a whopping $1.75 per gallon so the economic savings would be aprox double now.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Renee,

Patsi called me a Lesbian once on this blog. I took it as a complement.

yo soy Horsedooty!

True fact: I used to drive a cab in Wellesley, Massachusetts. The Wellesley College girls were not good tippers. I got better tips from the food service staff.

By the way, Hillary's "Wellesley address" was #206 Fernald Hall.

Pressure gage in every pocket!

I actually heard an interesting idea by Paul Roberts, the author of the “The End of Oil” in his criticism of McCain’s gas tax holiday idea. Roberts suggested that although there’s very little we can do in the short run to lower the cost of gasoline, one intervention that could actually bring some benefit would be addressing the problem of tire underinflation. Yes, I know it sounds ridiculous to say that just pumping up our tires could be a more appropriate remedy to the high cost of fuel, but if you look at the numbers, it actually makes sense.

The proposed gas tax holiday by Senators McCain and Clinton would save Americans about 5% on each gallon of gas in the short run. That’s not a dramatic savings. Let’s compare that now to the potential savings that could be derived from proper tire inflation. The GAO found that one quarter of all cars on the road have tires that are underinflated by at least 8 psi. Running a car with tires that are 20% underinflated (5-7 psi) can increase fuel consumption by 10%. It seems that simply ensuring that our tires are properly inflated has the potential to decrease fuel consumption. The U.S. Energy Department has reported that every pound per square inch of tire underinflation wastes 4 million gallons of gas daily in the U.S. It’s also about safety. The GAO estimated that in 1999, underinflated tires caused 247 deaths and 3 million injuries.

Conclusion - the politically popular thing to do: promise voters you’ll lower their gas prices over the summer. Cost to the economy: about $10 billion. The more effective intervention: enact legislation that will encourage drivers to maintain properly inflated tires.

And drive 55.

nash..............and you swore dat someday, somehow, you would get even with hillary for stiffing you on that tip?

I agree that it will help save fuel. I have a fancy one that my wife gave last fathers day that is digital. I get my tires rotated free for the life of the tires by the company I bought the tires from and a air gage helps me monitor that part of the vehicle.

yo soy Horsedooty!

The “Wonderful Young Pastor” Otis Moss

SEN. OBAMA: "Well, you know, the new pastor — the young pastor, Reverend Otis Moss, is a wonderful young pastor."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/30/the-wonderful-young-pastor-otis-moss/

Barack Obama's NEW Preacher of Hate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XupKU36iM0

Renee

Sorry got my "Misters and Mrs." confused. : ) Still loved seeing Pierce Brosnan get beamed.

UNFORTUNATE MAGIE, YOU DO REMEMBER ALL THE UNSAVORY ACTS HILLARY PULLED THE LAST TIME SHE LIVED IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!

REMEMBER WHITE WATER, FILEGATE, TRAVELGATE, STEALING VINCE FOSTER'S PAPERS BEFORE SHE LET THE POLCE INTO HIS OFFICE, HIRING PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS TO DISCREDIT THE WOMEN BILL CLINTON ABUSED AND IN THE CASE OF JUANITA BRODDERICK-RAPED, HAVING TO RETURN MORE THAN $30,OOO. WORTH OF FURNITURE ETC. THAT SHE STOLE TO FURNISH HER NEW MANSION IN D.C. AND MORE. IN ARKANSAS REMEMBER THE HOG FUTURE BONANZA, AND TROOPERGATE.

SHE'S A DISASTER AND VERY BAD FOR THIS COUNTRY AND SHOULDN'T EVEN BE IN THE SENATE!!!

sturgeone: All those time I had to bring her back to the dorm drunk, and all I got was a lousy quarter. But I did get to find out where all the lesbian bars are in Boston.

maggi wrote - "I do not remember the source, but read an interview with Wright some time ago in which he stated that the two of them (Wright and Obama) had long agreed that the time would come when Obama would have to denounce Wright."

Oh, great. Now the media will compare the Rev to Judas & Obama to Jesus (yet, again). Couldn't have a resurrection without Judas.

500 Floridians travel to Washington today to ask the Democrat National Committee to count their votes we ask:

“If a picture is worth a thousand words,
is this one worth 1.7 million votes or 210 delegates?”

Picture shows group in T-shirts that says " I went to the DNC to have my vote count and all I got from Howard Dean was this lousey T-shirt"

Damning evidence that Hillary is, in fact, a lesbian:
(1) She went to an "all girls" college.
(2) She played field hockey in high school.
(3) Her husband fools around. (Not his fault. She can't satisfy him.)
(4) When was the last time anyone has seen her in a dress?
(5) She's opinionated & not deferential to men.
(6) As first lady, she refused to serve tea and cookies.
(7) Favorite show? "Ellen."
(8) College thesis was on the Amazon Women.

"Barack Obama's argument that immediately reducing gas prices won't help American commuters is shockingly naive and out of touch...Gas tax relief worked when Barack Obama voted for it in the Illinois legislature, and it would work nationally now."
--Republican National Committee spokesman Alex Conant, April 28, 2008.

Dooty....
you should take it as a compliment...... Patsi once told me she thought you were one of the best on this blog..... and I agree with her....

Jamie..... every time I see Sally Fields, I think..... "what's wrong with you girl.... how could you not like coming home to a Shetland pony in your living room!"...

skylark..... you forgot she stole all those "w"s from computer keyboards.....

gotta get my butt back to work.....

Common Skylark

It is still relatively early on the West Coast. Could you please turn down the volume? Screaming doesn't improve the argument.

."...know so much about sheep"

And so little about pander bears

Buried deep in the “Issues” section of Obama’s web site under “Additional Issues” is a PDF document that can only be described as an attempt to talk around Obama’s real position on firearm ownership. In a section where the campaign claims to “respect” the Second Amendment, the document states:

Millions of hunters own and use guns each year. Millions more participate in a variety of shooting sports such as sporting clays, skeet, target, and trap shooting that may not necessarily involve hunting. As a former constitutional law professor, Barack Obama understands and believes in the constitutional right of Americans to bear arms. He will protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport, and use guns for the purposes of hunting and target shooting.

Tellingly, Obama’s campaign only addresses the gun rights of hunters and specific shotgun-only shooting sports, and only then in vague terms.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama_shooting_himself_in_the/

LOL, jamie - best of luck.

Flatus - you are thinking about naval tactical warfare - that ain't why we send carriers into the Gulf and announce we're doing it. We send them there and tell them we're going to because they're the bigggest, meanest weapons in our arsenal -and with all the support ships in a carrier group - stealth is not a big issue. Now if we really wanted to threaten them we'd send in a few missile ships. They have one purpose and one purpose only - to attack your ass.

yikes.........well, that answers that question.......

Isn't it time for another topic?

whatcha wanna bet that the Rev is burning up some computer somewhere framing his rebuttal.......a hard hitting slam from the disgruntled and much maligned preacher from chicaggy........

Maggisd,

Welcome. I was not a PolySci major or very good at math but having been born and reared in a red state and in a yellow dog dem household, I am not a big fan of the Electoral College. But unlike the EC, the apportionment of delegates as we do in our primaries seems at least to be an attempt at giving more people and States a voice. Not to mention advertising dollars. Obviously when you have two strong candidates it gets difficult and is exacerbated by the convergence of race and gender for the first time. But then isn't that why we have super dels? Regardless, It's a no win deal and we will suffer for trying to be fair.
I've commented several times, that, had Hillary conducted a competitive 50 State campaign from the start, she probably would have wrapped up the nomination by March. Then, we would not be concerned about caucuses and that democrat in WY. I guess we'll never know.

sturg - glad you asked?

I bet the Rev delivers his rebuttal better, too.

Blue,
I thought Hillary was Jesus. Didn't Carville bestow the Judas role onto Richardson.

I bet that old preacher been thinking a long time about what exactly he would say if he ever really got a chance to say it........and wowsers what a time he's got now.....buckle your chin straps as bob used to say........

Nash,

I thought she earned her walking around money by being a pole dancer in the combat zone.

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Posted by: RebelliousRenee | April 30, 2008 9:44 AM

Renee I was an honorary Lesbian in a couple Seattle Pride Parade March/Freedom Rally (ies). I had more fun with the lesbians than with the gay boys. What can I say? Dykes on Bikes scared me though. Those double-wide leather and chain wearing wimmin were not the group to mess with !!!

uh.......did obama happen to deny that he'd heard Wright's remarks like say, 3 times ? (before cockcrow?)

Rez-

"I've commented several times, that, had Hillary conducted a competitive 50 State campaign from the start, she probably would have wrapped up the nomination by March. Then, we would not be concerned about caucuses and that democrat in WY. I guess we'll never know."

See how much we agree? (If not - it's on every point made in that paragraph.)

Barack has integrity, Hillary has NONE. It would be a tragedy of immense proportions if that horrible woman ever got back in the White House. She is a liar and a fraud.!!!!!

Posted by: Skylark | April 30, 2008 10:18 AM

Skylark, isn't this one of your earlier posts just recycled? Usually when one of my records I broken, I put another on because I get tired of hearing the same thing over and over. You should try it ! :-)

Rez - blue's probably at work - but that Carville thing only applied to the Clinton Camp. Glue knows Obama appears to be the most Jesus like of the two candidates.

Re: Cat Talking (Their Diabolical Plan!)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=33ESMilyErE&feature=related

Here's a little bit on Hillary's appearance on BO show.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/30/in-factor-interview-clinton-matches-obamas-outrage-over-wright/

Some fox poll numbers:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,353459,00.html

Here's a little bit on Hillary's appearance on BO show.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/30/in-factor-interview-clinton-matches-obamas-outrage-over-wright/

Some fox poll numbers:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,353459,00.html

I always thought the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence were quite fun.

no, no, no, sturg, that adds a new character to the mix and has the wrong person denying the words - flips the relationship, making Obama the follower, not the leader. This Wright thing has really screwed the Obama as saviour story line up.

Gordo,

My cat can beat your cat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZPnY9DzNLM

Sturge, Pogo
I believe he has already addressed the problem. I think it is what pissed Obama off The good reverend call Obama a terrible name, he called Obama a politician.

Shall we call it a prebuttal?

From the national press club appearance.

"We both know that if Senator Obama did not say what he said, he would never get elected." Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls -- Huffington, whoever's doing the polls. Preachers say what they say because they are pastors. They have a different person to whom they're accountable"

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-wrighttranscript-04282008,0,5339764,full.story

ABC now:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/hillary-clint-2.html

Pogo,

Implicit in my remarks to Maggsd is the notion that Obama would have done the math on March 1st and figured he didn't have the ability to reach the necessary delegate count without a major divisive battle and therefore he would have dropped out out. As I said ,we'll never know!

yup, jack. It's like one of those zombie things for him, or maybe one of those vampire things. Anyway, it just won't die. Of course, continuing to feed the beast doesn't help kill it. And yes, calling a politician a politician is the height of insult. What was that old show - Father Knows Best?

all's i wanna know is how's joshua gonna fit the battle of Jericho if the walls just refuse to come a'tumblin' down....

Jack,

All morning I've been monitoring Sharpen on the radio and most of the self-identified Black callers who disagree with Obama, criticize him, but hardly are they switching to Clinton or saying anything about not voting. Maybe they will be less enthusiastic for him and that will hurt, but not a deal breaker either.

sturg, LOL. Ever see Veggie Tales? If not, they are hilarious little cartoons with nice little morality messages (albeit with religious messages I could have lived without) Wifey used to buy them for Li'l Pogo - starred Bob the tomato and Larry the cucumber. Notwithstanding the moral/religious messages, Mrs. Pogo & I used to RFLOAO watching them - particularly the Jericho episode - complete with French Blueberry guards on the walls who poured grape slushee on Josh and the boys while they marched around the city. (I guess you had to see it) Li'l Pogo probably thought we were nutz - and he may have been right.

pogo............"The Asparagus of La Mancha" and "Lord of the Beans" I like it already.......I missed it having never been drawn to anthropomorphic vegetables but maybe Zappa was influenced by them when he wrote "Call any vegetable, Call it by name......call one today, when you get off the train"

did you also watch movies with Fred Asparagus and Elvis Parseley?

vad, I wouldn't cite anything Faux does - they are frickin idiots.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/29/fox-news-lincoln-douglas_n_99331.html

Apparently they thought that Lincoln debated Frederick Douglass instead of Stephen Douglas back in the day. If they can't get something that they can fact check on Wiki right, you think they can do a competent job of poll sampling? Nitwits.

Some random thoughts...

The fact that Hillary Clinton is pandering to the Fox News Network tells me that there was some quid pro quo from Rupert Murdochs large donations to her campaign and his library. I wonder if she will use her blossoming love of Fox to show that she can cross the party lines...

One of my colleagues just turned 60 and she was telling me a funny story about how she met Ron Jeremy in Las Vegas when she turned 50. She actually got a signed t-shirt out of the deal. I bring this up because while she became familiar with some of his later work, she was horrified that one of his first "hits" was of himself fellating himself...needless to say that was 100 pounds ago. When I see the vim and vigor people are using to pump up their candidates, the one visual I get is of the Hedgehog tending to the hedgehog.

At some point, Clinton supporters need to admit that their candidate sucks at the job of campaigning. I will leave out the more harsh personal descriptives but needless to say anyone who could stomach Dick Morris doesn't share my values.

Obama people, the way this campaign has run the last 8 weeks, it reminds me of the woman who collapsed within 100 feet of the finish line of the iron man triathalon...she just totally soiled herself trying to crawl to the finish line... all I can think is get the man a hose and some wipes to clean himself off.

McCain people need to let their candidate know that acting like a grumpy asshole may get you the votes you need on the right but they lose you the votes you need in the center to win.

Pogo

If you want to make a statement, you send the fleet into the open waters off a country's coast, not into a personal sea which has more in common with Lake Superior than the Indian Ocean.

What they are doing, in Iranian eyes, is exceedingly provocative. And, in my eyes, exceedingly foolish, especially considering they have to sail virtually into Iran's submarine home port just to get in and out of the Gulf.

Nothing would make shrub happier than for Iran to take a swipe at one of our carriers. He can see it all unfolding again--Tonkin II. But it is cocksure risky. I can just see the ensuing chaos--one of their submarines manages to, God forbid, sink one of our carriers. Then what.

If he wants to make a power statement, send the damned battle groups into the Sea of Oman.

EuroTom,

What is it with born again teenagers who think that a way to sexually preserve their virginities is to engage in "the other sex"?

Last I checked, God didn't dig Sodom...

who they kidding.....everybody knows that the marching and ram's horn blowing was to cover up the sound of their tunnelling under the walls and shoring them up with timbers they could collapse at any given time......ram's horn, indeed.......

Pogo

That a teeny bopper intern might get Frederick Douglas and Stephen Douglas confused is somewhat understandable if depressing. That no one else on the production staff caught it before it aired and that the anchors were oblivious is somewhere between pathetic and horrifying.

Bear,

you ever try that Chinese food place I told you about? Wan Fu? We were there just the other night without the rain and hail.

try it you'll like it.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Bear

"Dick Morris doesn't share my values."

It would be nice if the Obama supporters didn't constantly confuse Sen. Clinton with Pres. Clinton. They are not joined at the hips Siamese twins.

How do you know she doesn't detest Dick Morris? Certainly Pres. Clinton dumped him after the toe sucking event. It very well could be that Sen. Clinton has always hated his guts. Considering the way he has done nothing but slander the Clintons for the past decade would lead one to believe there is no love lost.

I have Dooty...it was pretty good... I would still love to find a place that does boneless spare ribs though...

On Friday, a senior Obama adviser responded to criticism of his decision to go on Fox with a bunch of tough talk, saying that Obama knew full well that Fox has been at the forefront of spreading "the most specious of rumors" (i.e., lies) about Obama and vowing that he would "take Fox on."

Well, it didn't happen. At no point did he draw attention to Fox's spreading of lies about him or critique the network in a general sense.

Obama had a perfect opening to do this, too. Wallace pressed him repeatedly about Jeremiah Wright and the bogus "flag pin" nonsense -- a perfect set-up for Obama to point out that Fox had obsessed about both these issues to an obscene degree and that Fox had been at the forefront of spreading the Obama-is-a-Muslim lies.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/27/barack-obama-on-fox-news_n_98840.html

can't help you one that one. Do you read the Ft Worth Weekly? My wife reads it every week and checks out the food reviews. I am sure that is how she came to find Wan Fu. I just asked her if she knew any more places that might have boneless spare ribs but she said no Wan Fu was the only place she goes anymore. You might email the Weekly and ask if they have a place.

yo soy Horsedooty!

sturg, I think VT was just getting rolling when Zappa died. I would be very surprised to learn the he was influenced by a Christian kids' cartoon - doesn't fit the Jazz from Hell or Weasels Ripped My Flesh (Lowell George's springboard into Little Feat - thanks for firing him from the Mothers, Frank - it was our gain) image.

Obama Says Hes Outraged by Ex-Pastors Comments - The Caucus ...“They offend me, they rightly offend all Americans and they should be denounced,” he said. .... Obama Says He’s Outraged by Ex-Pastor’s Comments ...

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/29/obama-says-hes-outraged-by-ex-pastors-comments/

Clinton supports Obama statements on Wright.

Andrea Mitchell on MOJO made a very perceptive comment about Obama, saying his somber denunciation of Wright was followed by a campaign appearance in which he "trivialized" the Wright controversy. Mitchell showed a clip of Obama joking with the crowd about the Wright issue as if it had little significance as Scarborough's eyes narrowed to slits of grim disapproval. Obama's cavalier attitude speaks poniards as to his capacity as a leader in a crisis. His puerility so alarmed and dismayed Mitchell that she repeated Obama's "trivializing" hours later on her own show. Which begs the question; If the RED PHONE rings at 3;00AM will a puerile Obama trivialize that crisis. BO makes my support for Hillary so satisfying.

toast

What in the world happened in the market today? I wasn't paying attention this afternoon and it went from 125 up to 12 down in the last hour of trading.

Jamie,

Mrs. Clinton is quietly asserting that she was a close advisor to her husband during his presidency. I believe that is a way for her to bolster her "experience" argument. If that is what she is or was, good for her. If she wasn't comfortable with Dick Morris being in the fold for the 96 election, I think at some point during this campaign, we would have heard it leaked that she thought he was a piece of shit.

Now, I haven't been paying any attention to it and I do recognize that he is taking his shots at her, but I haven't heard one word from her about him. Just like pleading the 5th is a guaranteed right afforded under the Bill of Rights, people assume the one claiming that right is guilty.

Plus, I wonder if Bill's ego doesn't allow her to slink away from the claim because that would mean President Clinton was hanging with yet another shady character while in office.

Bear

You can be an "advisor" without your advice being taken and one would tend to be an advisor about issues not personnel. Dick Morris has done nothing but smear the Clintons, often falsely, since Dickie got caught with the prostitute.

If you google "Hillary Clinton Dick Morris" you get pages and pages of his columns almost all of which beat her like his own personal punching bag. My take would be that she hasn't said anything about him simply because it would give him more fuel for the garbage machine.

You also have to take into consideration that Dick Morris has never been right about anything. Up till now Fox has kept him on as a way to slash and burn on the Clintons without the necessity of being truthful.

flatus, bud, we don't disagree. Shrub is definitely poking a stick in Iran's eye, hoping to provoke them. What would you expect - that they sail the fleet into the Gulf of Oman instead? Iran doesn't have alot of open water off its coasts. At least GoO is deeper and more wide open, but further fron Tehran. And I hope they have the sense not to send a carrier in alone and without sufficient protection to guard agains tsuch attacks.

Sturg - they left the tunnelling and shoring up out of the veggie tales version - that kind of takes away from the angry god angle.

jamie - profit taking. What did go up today was gas - $.20 here.

Is Morris a Muslim?

Dick - wasn't he Jim Morrison's brother? Unknown roadie for the Doors?

GAK, :-)

If anyone uses I Google as their home page, check out their new "artist themes". Some are just plane beautiful. I'm using the one for the Mark Morris dance company since I just love his choreography, but there are painters and cartoons and musicians - nice stuff.

Pogo thanks. I noticed the Fed also dropped another 1/4 point ... this economy just won't jump start. Another something to charge against the smirker in chief.

Make that "plain beautiful" unless the theme involves flying : )

Jamie,

After the news of the .25 bps cut from the Fed was announced, people started taking a closer look at the GDP numbers and they recognized that the underlying news was not as good as the .6% would leave you to believe. It was believed that if the Fed's language towards future cuts was open to further action, it would be a sign that unemployment claims were up for the month. That report is due out Friday. Since the Fed left the door open to future action, there is growing concern that Fridays announcement is not too good.

At that point in time, it was noted that the short sellers really jumped back in and started beating the market down. Even the more bullish analysts think we will be in this morass for some time so the drop was a bit of reality setting in.

I doubt that either Bill or Dick were fat in '78 - Bill certainly was not. Sleazy, well, Morris, yes. Clinton - certainly in your eyes.

Bye, soccer.

I think this is important enough to keep repeating it over and over and over again.

.Remember all the unsavory acts she pulled the last time she lived in the White House...

REMEMBER WHITE WATER, FILEGATE, TRAVELGATE, STEALING VINCE FOSTER'S PAPERS BEFORE SHE LET THE POLCE INTO HIS OFFICE, HIRING PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS TO DISCREDIT THE WOMEN BILL CLINTON ABUSED AND IN THE CASE OF JUANITA BRODDERICK-RAPED, HAVING TO RETURN MORE THAN $30,OOO. WORTH OF FURNITURE ETC. THAT SHE STOLE TO FURNISH HER NEW MANSION IN D.C. AND MORE. IN ARKANSAS REMEMBER THE HOG FUTURE BONANZA, AND TROOPERGATE.

SHE'S A DISASTER, A LIAR AND VERY BAD FOR THIS COUNTRY.!!!!

Barack has integrity, Hillary has NONE. It would be a tragedy of immense proportions if that horrible woman ever got back in the White House. She is a liar and a fraud.!!!!!

Skylark: Please stop yelling ... it hurts! LOL

Skylark,

At least she didn't pay her way through college by selling drugs at SMU. She raised her daughter well enough that Chelsea wasn't photographed, drunk and spread eagled on a sidewalk in Austin, showing how well trimmed her pubic hair was.

Her husband didn't lie about a set of circumstance to take us to war, to satisfy a pissing contest he had with his father, a genuine war hero. He didn't waste 4000 soldiers and hundreds of billions of dollars with nothing to show for it except a horrendous economy.

At least when her husband was president, everyone profited from it, unlike now where only the "elite who are my constituents" are the only ones to get ahead...

Take your broken down Buick ass and open up a can of common sense for yourself.

Toast: Was that on Race for the White House (the Andrea Mitchell thing?) She commented on it this morning on MOJO but there wasn't a clip from the stump. I would like to find it on YouTube so if you know when it was on, that would be great! Thanks!

Toast: I just saw that you said Mitchell said this on MOJO. I saw the Mitchell MOJO clip (posted it earlier) but I didn't see that it included a clip of Obama from the stump. Are you sure it was on MOJO?

Don't you guys (directed to everyone here) find it interesting how we speculate as to what goes through the minds of the various candidates and what is truly in their hearts?

ie: Bill and Hill want to destroy every Dem candidate as part of some elaborate plan to take back the WH. Barack has been scheming to be President since first grade. Hillary must be a Lesbian since she went to an all women college etc. (Just some examples of this stuff)

If you take emotion out of the equation the statements about all the candidates and the conclusions that are made are a real stretch in some cases and in others downright outrageous. I'm sure this always existed in our political campaigns since the birth of the nation but I think such claims are more widely distributed these days via our omnipresent media. (Radio, tv, internet etc.)

I just find it interesting how so many people let their emotions get the best of them and post some truly goofy stuff. That includes the stuff disseminated by the campaigns.

Bear: LOL. Great post. Thank you for focusing on the bigger picture. I think all this inter-family squabling makes us take our eye off the prize.

Post Position Draw about to start live on line

http://www.kentuckyderby.com/2008/

GAKaren....
I "hope" you realize that a few of us are just having fun and don't take every post seriously.....

the thing that attracted me to Craig and this blog to begin with..... is Craig's sense of humor.....

To Bear--- I guess you don't remember when Chelsea was dragged out of a night club in London drunk as a skunk. I guess you didn't remember when Hillary acused the staff of the White House Travel Office of wrong doing to get her Arkansas cronies the business. These civil servants (of modest means) had to go into bankruptcy to pay lawyers to defend themselves in court. They were exonerated. I guess you didn't remember when Bill Clinton abused and raped women and Hillary tried to make Bill the victim.

I guess you don't remember that people had to explain to their children what oral sex was and what the news about the blue dress was. great role was he!!!!

I'm not defending George Bush by any means. He's a disaster. However to put that horrible woman in the White House is compounding the problem of the United States because she is so DISLIKED (over 45% of people polled said he was not trustworthy) that we would never come together as a people with her as the commander in chief.

Bill Clinton got lucky because the internet was just taking off and that improved the economic picture in the country. He had NOTHING to do with that.

The Clintons are sleaze and niothng is going to change that. If you want sleaze in the White House then vote for her. I want someone who can be respected and who our children can look up to. PERIOD

RR: No offense intended. I find it all quite entertaining. I think I'm probably referring more to sites like Democratic Underground where people whip themselves into hysterical frenzies. It's absolutely amazing to watch. That site certainly corners the market on tin foil! LOL

We only see a little bit of that here, thankfully, It is usually quite witty and requires intelligence on the part of the people that post and read it.

After reading the posts from today, I am enthralled. Hillary must be doing great. The usual suspects have their knives sharpened.

The politics of hope..so inspiring..

Skylark, have you forgotten your medication? You're beginning to hallucinate.

No meds needed here. Time for a martini!!!!

Let's see...

Teach my kids what oral sex is or explain to them why their neighbors legs look like tinker toys because they got blown off in Iraq...

Lie about getting a hummer from an intern or lying about getting pertinent intelligence in August 2001, warning that Al Qaeda was planning an imminent attack in the US.

If Bill Clinton had nothing to do with the growth in the 90's they why do people blame him for the recession in 2001? You can't have it both ways.

I think HRC is a bitch but I don't have the same visions of doom and gloom that you have...she could scissor kick nuns on national television and not stoop to the depths of the current administration.

Skylark make it a triple... I think you need it

Skylark: You truly need to stop sucking off the Right Wing corporate media teat. That stuff has been discussed ad nauseam.

Quite frankly, if the Right goes back to all that nonsense (Bill Clinton as a rapist in particular) should Hillary become the nominee, I tend to think that the reaction to it by a great deal of the electorate would be, "Oh hell, not that &*^% again!" In light of the economic woes Americans are facing as well as a protracted senseless war, that stuff just isn't going to cut it this time around.

Additionally, the whining by Obama supporters that Hillary has acted like a Republican during the course of her campaign really rings hollow when you start throwing all that Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Beck bull@#$% around as a supporter of Senator Obama.

Karen.... no offense taken....
sometimes I wish I had more time to visit other blogs..... but maybe I'm actually lucky I don't...... :0)

off to barbecue some hamburgers....... still have a small pile of snow in my yard..... but I don't care...... I LOVE this time of year.....

everyone have fun tonight!

So do all the other staffers from CQ also participate in Craig's trailmixer blog?

EuroTom: I recommend Weight Watchers..reasonable cost and you don't starve..They have the points system which is not difficult to follow.
Sorry for the unsolicited recommendation..

Euro,

What I meant was that I have met more than one female in TX who thought that if she engaged only in anal sex, she would still preserve her virginity for her wedding night.

They never could understand how a porn loving heathen like me couldn't see the logic in there thinking.

Jamie,

I can understand your point about advisers. My take, and it is probably way off, is that Bill would at least consult his wife unless it was about an affair du jour. I wonder if Obama could use a similar argument with regards to Wright or McCain with Hagee?

Boy, it's great to see gas at a cheap price of $3.65 a gallon today!
Of course, I was griping at that price until I heard that the OPEC chief said oil will soon be TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS A BARREL!
I will give Tom Friedman credit because when he said that a plug-in totally-electric car is the answer, he specified it had to be electricity from wind turbines and kites and also solar harvesting of kilowatts.
Hybrids are , like Friedman said, just a start, not a long-term solution.
My 1977 Honda CVCC 5-speed got 40 pmg, and some of those CVCCs got nearly 50. That was 31 years ago and now it takes a hybrid to get that kind of mileage? WHY is it taking so LONG?

I JUST WANNA THANK SKYLARK FOR PICKING UP ON MY COMMENT WHERE I SAID "BARACK IS JUST STAYING IN THE RACE LONG ENOUGH TO SABATOGE HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN SO HE CAN RUN AGAIN IN 2012!" IT WAS A JOKE! NASH HAS OFTEN MADE THAT COMPLAINT ABOUT HILLARY , SO I THOUGHT I WOULD REVERSE THAT JOKE. IF IT MADE YOU MAD , I DID MY JOB.

Damn caps lock button. Sorry about that.

"I think HRC is a bitch but I don't have the same visions of doom and gloom that you have...she could scissor kick nuns on national television and not stoop to the depths of the current administration."

They stooped to the depths of the current administration but in a different way. George Bush make a very big mistake in Iraq. However that doesn't mean we should put another sleazy Clinton back in the White House and further diminish our standing in the world.

this morning I posted an article about the Clinton/McCain proposal for eliminating the fed gas tax per gallon this summer to which was rejected because the article was written by Tom Friedman. So, in fairness, here is another article about the same thing. This guy called and surveyed experts from the Right the Left and Middle and they all said the same thing. Single most stupid thing anyone could suggest. Here is the article.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/30/expert-support-for-gas-ta_n_99474.html

yo soy Horsedooty!

Bear,

" If that is what she is or was, good for her. If she wasn't comfortable with Dick Morris being in the fold for the 96 election, I think at some point during this campaign, we would have heard it leaked that she thought he was a piece of shit."

That was a pretty close knit war room and again this is opinion, a "might have happened that way". Too much of the charges against her seem to fall in the realm of belief not biography.

BTW, Loved the way you went after Skylark. That was a post of genius.

Bear

"I wonder if Obama could use a similar argument with regards to Wright or McCain with Hagee?"

When he was new to Chicago, he had two major churches suggested that would connect with his neighborhood work. He was slightly warned off of Trinity because of some of the associations, but chose it any way why I have no idea. Usually in a family the wife is more likely to pick the church and WRight did marry Barack and Michelle. It may be that it was her church originally.

McCain was a good Episcopalian until he caught the politics virus and the latest wife when he became Baptist. I get the feeling he's not particularly devout as anything, so again that may be her choice or a political one to line up the Evangelicals. I think he has to take the blame for seeking out Hagee when he was swerving hard right to get this nomination.

I am really envious of Craig Crawford's Imus coffee maker he is always bragging about it:) I would think that Hillary Clinton is going on Bill O'Reilly tonight to payback O'Reilly for injecting the Rev J Wright's rants soundbytes into the newscycle thats a big get for O'Reilly will Obama follow? What is James Carville up to?

http://imustimes.wordpress.com/2008/04/30/james-carvillle-likes-to-rodeo-cajun-style/

Anyone know where Patsi's been lately?
Sheila?
Tylenol?
You all still out there in "read-only" mode?

It'll be interesting to see if the Dems in this blog, and elsewhere, will be able to kiss and make up after this whole nomination process is completed?

Ree

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bt_-R5LInU

A Super D explains her reasoning:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20080430/cm_huffpost/099419_200804301231

Skylark...was that your house on the Faux News story this morning?

Anyway, enjoy the new Faux News poll...Obama is slipping...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,353459,00.html

And believe me Skylark, this hurts me more than you to post it. I feel like the lesbian GORDO.

the skylarks are one of the reasons I hope hillary wins.

No offense, skylark............

I think we once had a Buick Skylark.

Perhaps, Skylark is hard of hearing, thus all of the shouting. I had a friend who started talking really loud when he started to lose his hearing. So, I do apologize if that is the reason for all of your loudness, Skylark. As for your politics, it is your America, too. And I respect that.

I think that little Skylark bird has ingested too many dangerous pesticides.

But if Rachel Carson had written a book about Skylark, it would have been called "Loud and Obnoxious Spring." ;-)

LL

I first heard about Silent Spring from my sixth grade teacher...back in the 1960s. We sure have advanced as a society, haven't we?

Blonde...I guess one thing that can be said for raised consciousness about DDT is that the Bald Eagle was saved. Those critters were getting pretty close to extinct back when we both were kids in the 1960s. Now I routinely see them when I'm outdoors here in Florida, and I've seen them in lots of other states too...from Minnesota to Washington. Now the biggest threat to their habitat in Florida is not poison, but growth and bulldozers.

Did anyone else read this column by Roger Simon today? Normally, he's pretty clear headed and relatively unbiased. But I swear, his heartbreak and anguish over how the Wright affair has popped the bubble on the Obama campaign almost reads like it was written by a teenager whose Mom woke him up in the middle of a great wet dream involving Pamela Anderson. Get a grip, Roger. It's called "politics", and you're supposed to be an expert aren't you?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9961.html

LL

BHO is a victim. It is clear to me now.

Bri-a-Ninny

I wasn't talking about a "turn of phrase." The column is well written. It's more just the whole attitude behind it. I think you're seeing an entire press corps getting over what amounted to a teenage crush on Obama.

I mean, how come nobody shed such tears over any of the other candidates this year whose campaigns have blown up? Who cried for Mike Gravel, or Joe Biden, or Mike Huckabee or Rudy Giuliani? Nobody.

She is holding her own. He hasn't managed to do the serial interrupting thing with her YET. Could still happen!

Whoops...sheep not rodents. OK. My mistake.

It's not the first time she has mentioned the Ronald Reagan Social Security Story. She brought it up at a debate long, long ago in reponse to the idea of raising the cap. This was even before Obama started to have fond memories Ronald Reagan, Trajectory Changer.

There has been an Alberto Gonzalez sighting! He is now playing 3rd base for the Yankees.

"This was even before Obama started to have fond memories Ronald Reagan, Trajectory Changer."

Ally, yeah,and you see what that got him from the Hillary crowd..especially Slick.

Wow...thanks for the fascinating story 9/11. What an amazing perspective.

Rez: I do think there is a difference in the magnitude of their comparisons.

LL,
Many affluent and educated Whites wanted a Black RFK to vote for. They long for a centrist Black who can establish both a credible pathway to unite America and a role model that can get break the race barrier. They want it so bad ( even more than seeing a woman lead) they are willing to be seduced into believing what they hope for and not what is. It is really quite amazing.

Now if Kerry had the associations or mentors, advisors or supporters Obama has, Dean would have won the nomination using much of the same technique Obama copied. At first glance, Obama wasn't scary. He was half-white...LOL. He was from Columbia and Harvard and spoke well. He talked about Lincoln and JFK, RFK and Truman,. He talked about a color-blind campaign and a high road of promising change and intergrity. And boy did people drink up.

Over at Stubborn Facts, a few suspected a fiction. I started checking out the Obama story and did a bit of research. The more I looked the more I came to realize the game. Obama is a calculating candidate that started long ago with Davis to seek out a base he could build on while polishing his marketable image. That sent him ultimately to Chicago. On one hand you have him with Wright and on the other being mentored by Lieberman. There are two sides to Obama or three if you include Michelle. Talk about flip-flopping, just read his policy spins from 2004.

What shocks me is how many intelligent people started drinking without even checking him out. No Quarters has tons of contradictions as do others. The similarity of shared views by numerous Obama friends, the long list of weak claims and mediocre record including his time in the Senate was missed by the MSM and many Liberals because they wanted to believe. more than vet. Now isn't this exactly what Republicans did with Bush? I guess the Democrats don't want to let Republicans do anything better than they can even if it is being stupid.

Now this gas holiday is designed for one thing only -temporary relief that is supposed to be wedded to taxing the oil companies. As a general solution, it is a bad idea. As a quick fix, it can blunt the high price this summer. Hillary isn't suggesting systemic changes to our energy policies are not needed. We need serious efforts in clean coal, carbon sequestering, tar oil extraction. The DOD has an invention that can charge batteries by the motion of a moving soldier.

The idea however, that gas holidays can blunt the Obama meltdown is silly. Obama is caught in the cross fire and gas isn't gonna save him. He set out long ago to build his Liberal base with many who are coming back to roost in his backside. It isn't even about SD or Florida anymore. Obama will lose to McCain and Hillary will beat him. It is about picking the least damaged candidate that can win. Watch, Obama will get hit by another brick he neglected to cement down a year ago. And then another. Wright a few days ago was simply critical mass. There are too many dots, too many associations, too many boldless policies and rhetoric grounded by disingenuity. Obama's stump speeches sound like special pleadings now. As BB KING once said, the thrill is gone.

Max, Give you an A- for imagination.. . .speaking of John and Yoko.

Hillary was fantastic! Obama interview on fox was sure not as involved, nor as classy. Even Hannity praised her for coming on and standing up to O'Reilly one on one.. of course Morris will try to tear her up the rest of the night..

Go Hillary....

Julie

No Rez, I think the Obama side has the imagination problem...hyperimagination. They imagine what they want and ignore the rest.

They imagine talking about Wright is McCarthyism

They imagine getting rid of Musharraf will get OBL

They imagine Yes We can is an Obama invention

They imagine nothing could be worse than Bush

They imagine all those Red State will go Blue

They imagine keeping Florida out will keep it Blue

They imagine talking will change Iran

They imagine Barak can pay for all the things he promises without running up the deficit higher and cutting defemse.

They imagine a whole lot.

The band and neal young, Helpless
http://youtube.com/watch?v=giyO8ho74pE

The Band perform "Forever Young" with Bob Dylan

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Kh8Sm3JAwAs

Jack

Wino--20/1 that doesn't sound too bad....does it??

what's the colorado bob memorial fund?

In rememberance of Obama's press conference yesterday.

Wipe out

http://youtube.com/watch?v=T8__EwAT8VM

Jack

9/11, I read some of your posts and all I can do is shake my head in dismay over the kinds of people with whom we share our world. (sigh)

z

Max,

Obama said talking about Wright smacks of McCartyism. BS

He never said the route to finding OBL is ridding Pak of Mush. more BS

Everyone including Obama knows YWC comes from Chavez.

Obama would be worse than Bush. more BS

I bet there will be a red state (2004) go blue this fall.

FL is not mandatory for a democrat win.

Many foreign policy expects argue that diplomacy with Iran is paramount to easing tension in middle east.

He said he will be cutting defense. Winding down out of iraq will reduce DOD budget.

Keep up the BS, it suits you.

Jack, that CSNY album is one of my favs..

night all see you in the morning
Rez, glad you enjoyed it

Jack

McPeak nad other Obama surrogates have said that linking Obama's views to those he associated with smacks of McCarthyism. McPeak in fact blasted Bill Clinton.

Obama endorsed the idea of getting rid of Musharraf who he blamed for failing to get OBL. Even Richardson echoed the idea that a free election in Pakistan would vreate a moderate government that backed up Bhutto's promise to take on the militants. Has that happened?

Informed people know thjat Yes We can was a soviet solgan Alinsky gave to Chavez. Davis informed Obama long before he ever heard of Chavez.

Yes, nothing is worse than Bush...LOL and Obama could never do anything that would lead to disaster. Now that is a great solgan for Obama , "Obama, he's at least better than Bush".

Yep, Red may go Blue if Hillary runs. Obama's wins were activist driven. I don't think Repblicans are thinking about switching to Obama these days.

Oh, Obama wants to add more to the already 67% of foreign students in American graduate programs by cutting defense. And there are lots of things Obama will pay for out of DOD spending....Hey Rez, I thought Obama is going to move our resources in Iraq onto the battelfield in Afghanistan and Pakistan. What happened with that? And Darfur, Somalia? I guess retreat does get some cash back home, but at what eventual price? And I thought Obama's grand idea was to provide new schools and teachers for all those countries that teach hatred so we could change the educational causes of hatred towards America. Now that will cost a huge amount. And Obama wants to cut military spending to Mexico and Columbia and give the money to the people. Kind of like his plan to change the criteria for affirmative action.

Now who is BSing? Me thinks it you. A big difference between imagination and reality, eh?

Sturgeone

A tribute to Big Truck. The star of many of the Colorado Bob stories.

Goodnight all

Have fun night owls.

Max,

I lost a maxtrue length reply because of error submission and didn't save it. I like you max , but not that much to retype it.

Suffice to say that we disagree immensely on what we anticipate will occur this fall.

please go to npr.org to hear about the new york representative about the senate pass DNA Discrimination Ban . 13 years ago, senator clinton did not stood up for the working class to fight the insurance big corps. senator clinton has her chance but she didn't fight for you. you can go here and listen to the story. Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY), is the main sponsor for the bill.
Please please listen to it. you will see why senator clinton DOESN'T fight for you, she is not you think who she is .
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90072102

New Thread!

Please check out "The Truth vs Barack Obama"

http://savagepolitics.com/?p=317

I saw this today, and HAD to share it with everyone. It is just a brilliantly researched and written list of inconsistencies with several of Obama's stories. I think it should be done for ALL three candidates, but I guess this is a good way to start at finally looking at the candidates with some honesty.

http://savagepolitics.com/?p=317