No Delegate Deal Best for Obama

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For all of the bad news that Barack Obama faces these days, the worst could be a potential settlement of the delegate disputes in Florida and Michigan. Any resolution that seats even a portion of the delegations from the renegade states could boost Hillary Rodham Clinton’s case to count their popular vote in evaluating electability.

As the May 31 date approaches for a hearing before the Democratic National Committee's Rules and Bylaws committee, party leaders in Florida and Michigan are conjuring up compromises aimed at seating at least some of their contested delegations to the party’s nominating convention. Today, Michigan Democrats floated a new plan to split their delegates between Clinton and Obama.

Even if Florida and Michigan work a deal with the DNC for legitimacy, Obama can still argue that the lack of personal campaigning in those states renders them useless as a guide for superdelegates. His case just won’t be as strong as it would be if the DNC continued to act as though Florida and Michigan don’t exist.

 

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  1. I have to let my dog out...

    Posted by: Blonde wino Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 12:09 AM

  2. I guess the invasion of the Craig-bashing Obamasnatchers are still posting on the last thread.

    Posted by: Blonde wino Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 12:13 AM

  3. Craig you're very cruel to keep throwing out these scraps of meat to your Clintonista fans. Isn't it time for you to start weening them from this illusion she can get the nomination?

    Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 12:24 AM

  4. Who will beat McCain is a good question and the main one on my mind. The rest is the usual squabbling. When it's over Obama & Hillary with pat each other on the back. Hillary will kiss Bill and Obama will embrace The Reverend, again.

    How do I know this? The woman who cut my hair is Vietnamese. You have to be of a certain age to get the analogy.

    tt

    Posted by: tiptoe Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 12:37 AM

  5. I get it tiptoe...and I think HRC will be able to take down JMc. Bill Maher said it best on Friday night, why shouldn't HIllary stay in the race until the end? This is a close race and Obama hasn't enough delegates to win either. And anything can happen until convention.

    I, however, am quitting for the night.

    Posted by: Blonde wino Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 12:44 AM

  6. "But with this Wright thing, Obama is at odds with a number of important local, AA leaders across the country."-Jack

    What do you have on this, I'm curious.

    Posted by: Rezdog Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 12:59 AM

  7. Yeah, Blondie, I'm glad ya get it.

    tt

    Posted by: tiptoe Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 1:12 AM

  8. Rez he has nothing, he's trying to sew seeds of discord, ignore the man behind the curtain.

    Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 1:13 AM

  9. Boy, lots Obama sharks have been on this blog in the last 24 hours.

    I know it isdifficult for them to watch the Obama mystique implode, but the incessant attack mode is becoming almost comical.

    Posted by: Oregon Democrat | April 30, 2008 1:49 AM

  10. Boy, lots Obama sharks have been on this blog in the last 24 hours.

    I know it isdifficult for them to watch the Obama mystique implode, but the incessant attack mode is becoming almost comical.

    Posted by: Oregon Democrat | April 30, 2008 1:50 AM

  11. Yes, Hillary is up by 8 in Indiana - and she has BO down to 5 in NC...

    They were sure rude to Craig also..

    Julie

    Posted by: Julie - Young 73 | April 30, 2008 1:52 AM

  12. evening Tool. No campaign events today?

    Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 1:54 AM

  13. Julie..My thought is that if people want to attack Craig and question his integrity, they should stay off this blog.

    The reason I camehere in the first placeis because Craig gives a unique perspective and isn't afraid to go against the conventional wisdom.

    There have been times when I thought I would leave,but have deided to ignore the nuts and simply be bemused by them.

    Posted by: Oregon Democrat | April 30, 2008 1:56 AM

  14. Hey OD

    How did the sign holding go with the friends today?

    Julie

    Posted by: Julie - Young 73 | April 30, 2008 2:00 AM

  15. It went very well..quitea bit of rain..we have weather changing every 15 minutes..

    Lots of enthusiasm from drivers.. I've been spending as much time as I can at headquarters doing phone calling. So many volunteers..more and more phone lines being added.


    Posted by: Oregon Democrat | April 30, 2008 2:05 AM

  16. OD this is a blog, not a fan web site. Do you know the difference?

    Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 2:06 AM

  17. Haven't seen an oregon poll recently. What do the chances for Hillary look like now ?

    Wonder what the overseas press is saying about the Wright & Bo snaggle? I think it leaves a bad taste in the mouth - kind of like the Kris Kristoferson song - "tastes like an ashtray I'd been licking"...

    I get the feeling Michelle may not like BO denouncing wright.. She was pretty enthusiastic in the one Wright video.
    Jason should be along soon...
    Julie

    Posted by: Julie - Young 73 | April 30, 2008 2:15 AM

  18. Albert Hoffman, inventor of LSD, dead at 102? See that, kids? DRUGS KILL!

    Oh Albert...all those hours in high shcool library study hall, reading Kafka and listening to Dave Brubeck thru those lame-ass WalkMan headphones while my future husband sat across the table from me, attempting a glimpse down my top...rest in peace, man. You did me a world of good.

    Posted by: Julia | April 30, 2008 2:19 AM

  19. Haven't seen any recent polls. Obama was ahead by 11 several weeksago, but it seems to be tightening.

    Chuck Todd on MSNBC did a big reversal last week and said that if Hillary could put enough money in here she might be able toturn the state around.

    Her visit here and President Clinton'sthis week were very successful.

    The Clinton campaignisobviously out hustling the Obama team, but Obama has tons of TV. We'll see.

    She will win most of the state. I think her victory will depend on if she can cut down the Obama lead in Portland and Eugene.

    Posted by: Oregon Democrat | April 30, 2008 2:23 AM

  20. Julia it looks like in honor of Albert's passing OD has popped a tab!

    Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 2:32 AM

  21. Going to have to leave - night all

    Julie

    Posted by: Julie - Young 73 | April 30, 2008 2:33 AM

  22. Hi Oregon Democrat,

    I'm here to defend your points. Brian is just cranky because Obama's
    mystique is dissolving before the world. OB has become
    just another politician and not a very good one apparently.

    O's latest denouncement of his favorite irreverent reverend was disengenous at best.

    The pesky question that haunts is why did Obama stay so close to
    Rev. Angry for twenty years, especially since Obama knew all about Wrights buddy Farrakhan and O even walked in the Million Man March. None of it passes the smell test. The Republicans will continue to resurrect Wright.

    There's little chance Obama will ever win the election for president
    and that is pissing off the far, far lefties who support him against all odds.

    I'm focussed on Indiana and Hillary's winning there.

    By the way Brian, this blog is a fan club if anyone wants it to be.
    I'll join as I'm sure many other loyal Trail Mix bloggers will. You
    can just observe the rest of us while you huff and puff with smug indignation.

    Craig deserves a fan club. He's one of the few media voices of
    reason and calm in this election.


    Posted by: prof marcia Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 2:39 AM

  23. Hi Marcia..

    There are a lot of interesting people on this blog. I get lots of good information.

    I guess that to benefit from them I must put up with a certain degree of nonsense. ..A lot like the rest of life.

    I think Obama is tanking very quickly. I'm worried that if somehow he still gets the nomination, we willlose in November.

    Ithinki Hillary's chances are better each day. Several on this site have said for a long time that time isher best friend. I think that is true.

    Obama came off very badly today. Someof is supporters appearing on television early in the day with some optimism, were very disheartened by the late evening ..

    ThinkI better go to bed. I have to work in the mornig and will telephone for Hillary in afternoon.

    Posted by: Oregon Democrat | April 30, 2008 2:45 AM

  24. Maureen certainly hit the nail on the head in today's column,

    Praying and Preying
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/opinion/30dowd.html?ref=todayspaper

    Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 3:28 AM

  25. Flying to NY today and then to Indiana for a day to do some campaigning. Just bought a ticket with airmiles. I figured...WTH...Let me go. Cannot sit back and only donate. Need to get out this lazy chair and go. Today we celebrate Queensday here in theNetherlands....

    Media is all over the Wright Obama story... One headline was priceless: The Clinton comeback is again complete (subtitle) Why never to count out a Clinton)... ahhahahaha

    Love it..

    Be on the lookout for this black man in Indiana and NY folks...
    On my way to make sure Hillary will be the nominee

    Gotta go, flying in 4 hours...

    Posted by: Jason | April 30, 2008 3:31 AM

  26. Jason Queen's Day! OMG I got stuck in Amsterdam one year when the trains stopped running... What a party! LOL...

    Posted by: EuroTom Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 3:53 AM

  27. and the Academy Award goes to..Obama for best actor in a Dramatic Movie..best supporting actor Jeremiah Wright....scripted and rehearsed......

    Posted by: emmy | April 30, 2008 6:13 AM

  28. the other shoe, poised to drop............what will the Rev. start to say now about Barack's 20 yr history in Wright's church........Wright doesnt seem to be a guy who will simply back up and go away......

    Posted by: sturgeone | April 30, 2008 6:46 AM

  29. and we've yet to hear from representatives of black churches as to how they view the Rev. and the Rev's point of view that the "black church" is under attack. Looks like a number of black preachers are going to have some tv time coming........

    Posted by: sturgeone | April 30, 2008 6:51 AM

  30. One important WSJ feature from yesterday's paper (it deals with non-profit hospitals demanding cash up front before providing treatment):
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120942599600151137.html?mod=todays_us_page_one

    And, in today's paper Rove has a really interesting profile of John McCain:
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120951606847454685.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 7:14 AM

  31. Ah, the good Rev. had his fifteen. Now back to the steady run toward the nomination. Do you think Billary will drop out next week if she loses Indiana?

    Posted by: Bye Bye Billary | April 30, 2008 7:21 AM

  32. ha ha......you think the Rev is over? Stand by, Sidemeat.....the rest is yet to come........

    Posted by: sturgeone | April 30, 2008 7:29 AM

  33. Obama Baloney Alert: His Childhood “Racial Awakening” Was Actually A Novel

    "Anybody who isn’t still swooning over the Incandescent One already knows that Barack Obama’s fictional autobiographical book, Memories I Pulled Out Of My Butt Dreams From My Father contains lies innacurate accounts.

    Now we can add yet another Barack Obama Fuzzy Story to the list.

    In Dreams, Obama refers to an article in Life Magazine that stimulated a huge revelation and racial-awakening in little Barry at age 9.

    There was one problem with Barry’s “Racial-Awakening” story though. The Chicago Tribune couldn’t find a back issue of Life that contained that story. It just plain didn’t exist.. When questioned about it, Barack, being Barack, said, well maybe it wasn’t Life at all. Maybe it was Ebony. There was also no Ebony back issue that contained such a story.
    Nice try but no Cigar for Barry."

    http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/29/obama-baloney-alert-his-childhood-racial-awakening-was-actually-a-novel/


    Posted by: GORDO | April 30, 2008 7:30 AM

  34. Oops, the link about hospitals in my last should be:
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120934207044648511.html?mod=todays_us_page_one

    But, the item I did point to was interesting, but not nearly as important about the Cash Before Chemo feature.

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 7:34 AM

  35. Very important: Someone please explain today's Google search engine graphic to me. Is it national, shiny object day?

    Posted by: blueINdallas | April 30, 2008 7:34 AM

  36. Aw, Craig, but then the media would have to cover those pesky Clintons, again. They don't want to do that.

    As for the "Fury!" photo...we have seen Obama be more furious before. He got a bit like George W Bush in the rose garden with the media a few months back. Probably the first time he wasn't thrown a softball.

    Yesterday, he just seemed annoyed that he had to deal with the Rev issue. More dealing with ants-at-a-picnic than anything else...and way too late. The little buggers were already walking off with his sandwich.

    Posted by: blueINdallas | April 30, 2008 7:40 AM

  37. I think Barack and Jeremiah should start an ice cream company together. Call it "Barry & Jerry's" The inventor of LSD died? When Hugh Hefner dies , it'll mean something to me. Never made the drug scene.

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 7:45 AM

  38. good morning gang....

    after reading some of last nights comments...... I'm so heartened to see that Obama has such "nice" and "articulate" supporters..... now that's the way to unite this country......

    Craig.... you must have the patience of Job.....

    OD.... "almost" comical?...... I think all of this IS comical...... BTW.... thanks for reporting about your efforts on behalf of Hillary.....

    the sun is shining..... the birds are singing.... my cats are purring..... all is right in my world.... may it be right in all of your's......

    Posted by: RebelliousRenee Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 7:49 AM

  39. I just saw Andrea Mitchell on MoJo. She's traveling with the Obama campaign. Mika and Joe(and all the MSM) have been saying what a wonderful job Barack did yesterday--Andrea said on the stump last night he trivialized the whole matter-blamed it on Hillary and McCain-The whole thing is silly --and the subject was quickly changed.

    Posted by: ubns Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 7:50 AM

  40. Yeah , people get called "tools" here now. It's kinda like middle school.

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 7:55 AM

  41. New Clinton supporter is a potent symbol

    "Easley is a meaningful ally in the culture war she's waging against Senator Barack Obama, as she seeks to cast him as a hopelessly unelectable liberal elitist and to persuade the Democratic Party leaders who will decide the nomination – the "superdelegates" – to choose her instead.

    It’s an incredibly strong endorsement because Easley is popular among the blue collar 'Bubba' voters who are Democrats," said David "Mudcat" Saunders, a Democratic consultant who advised former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards and former Virginia Gov. Mark Warner on winning rural voters.

    "He's clean in the culture. Easley's wrecked the Charlotte Motor Speedway doing 150 miles per hour, and Bubba likes that," said Saunders, referring to NASCAR fan Easley’s 2003 race car crash. “He's a hunter. He's a strong Second Amendment guy. He gives her great cultural validation in the state of North Carolina."

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9939.html

    Posted by: GORDO | April 30, 2008 8:01 AM

  42. "If you were a tool.......what kind of tool would you be?"

    --Barbara Walters, updated.

    Posted by: sturgeone | April 30, 2008 8:04 AM

  43. Dem's PLEASE Keep BHO in the race and the nomination !! PLEASE

    McCain / Romeny 08

    Posted by: Ping Pong Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:07 AM

  44. Have not had time to read all of the posts...

    The PING POINT..
    BHO - What did the Rev say different this week then what he has been saying for 20 years? NOTHING ALL THE SAME.
    So again, BHO is about Change....... Not the kind of change this country needs. I thought he was brighter...
    Oh My

    Posted by: Ping Pong Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:09 AM

  45. Sturge , are you from Denver?

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:11 AM

  46. corey......lived there a couple of years, but am from SC

    Posted by: sturgeone | April 30, 2008 8:13 AM

  47. Wino: Thank you for the relevant YouTube link last night...INVASION! I had to tune out before I saw it because the trolls were bugging me. I guess Craig's comments about the Florida rules got him linked somewhere, eh?

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:14 AM

  48. "Dem's PLEASE Keep BHO in the race and the nomination !! PLEASE"

    Posted by: Ping Pong

    Shame on you for saying "PLEASE".

    People don't say please any more. They say, 'I'll stomp you in your face if you don't (enthusiastically) agree with me.'

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:14 AM

  49. Okay. Who's from Colorado , then? I know Bob , but who else? I thought someone here was an Avalanche fan.

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:15 AM

  50. Ping: I'll tell you EXACTLY what was different about the latest Reverend Wright remarks: This time he went after OBAMA. Wright can say whatever he wants about America, Hillary, Bill, Farrakhan etc. But once he went after Obama, that crossed the line. Apparently calling him a "politician" was the last straw.

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:17 AM

  51. Radical from '60s stoked by Barack

    WASHINGTON – "He didn't bomb the Capitol or rob banks like his contemporaries in the Weather Underground.

    But Carl Davidson, a former vice president of the Students for a Democratic Society who traveled to Cuba to meet with Fidel Castro and still praises the dictator today, is another proud radical for Barack Obama, serving faithfully as webmaster for "Progressives for Obama."

    He joins his old SDS collaborator, Tom Hayden, who traveled with Jane Fonda to meet with Vietnamese communist leaders during the height of the Vietnam war. In fact, Fonda, too, Hayden's ex-wife, is part of Progressives for Obama."

    (Yes, I know it is WND)

    http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=62917

    Posted by: GORDO | April 30, 2008 8:17 AM

  52. probably dnd, who posts no more.......( I have no use for sports unless I'm playing them.....)

    Posted by: sturgeone | April 30, 2008 8:20 AM

  53. If you think the Clintons are not trying to sabotage Obama's election, here's how they sabotaged Kerry in 2004.

    *****

    Is this a variation on the tactic the Clintons reportedly tried last time around? While doing interviews for my book on Bill's post presidency, Clinton in Exile: A President Out of the White House, several of my sources mentioned Billary's work pushing General Wesley Clark for the nomination in 2004. The Clintons, according to this plot, knew that Clark, the retired NATO supreme allied commander, could not win. Bush would win in 2004 and Hillary would have an easy path to the nomination in 2008.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carol-felsenthal/billary-revisits-a-tactic_b_99199.html

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:21 AM

  54. Commies for Hillary?

    *****

    With 60s-era radicalism now a hot topic in the Democratic primary, it's worth noting the (amusing, ironic) history of Sen. Hillary Clinton's co-chief strategist Geoff Garin.

    Philip Weiss, who attended Harvard with Garin more than 30 years ago, recalls that he was "a special guy -- softspoken, funny, brilliant. He was also a radical. In 1973, on an anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, Garin called for violent revolution in the United States" in the student paper, the Crimson:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/30/geoff-garin-clinton-chief_n_99336.html

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:27 AM

  55. Kerry sabotaged himself. Rev Wright is sabotaging Obama's election now. Yeah , I think it was DND. Thanks Sturge.

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:27 AM

  56. Huffington Post isn't biased are they?

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:28 AM

  57. Corey: That's the same line Clintons will use when McCain beats Obama, "He did it to himself."

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:29 AM

  58. read " MyAmericanValues.com"

    Obama blew it with the weak speach when he had a chance to handle the Rev situation. Had he addressed the issue with the same strength as yesterday then it MIGHT have gone away. But the we all must be prepared to live with the TRUTH of our pasts

    Posted by: Ping Pong Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:29 AM

  59. Well , Kerry was branded a flip-flopper.

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:29 AM

  60. strife without end, amen.

    Posted by: sturgeone | April 30, 2008 8:30 AM

  61. Congratulations Gordo,

    You finally got me to look at a link because I was curious if it wasn't Life or Ebony then it was probably Jet or Sepia. About the second paragraph I thought that sounds like "Black Like Me" and that is apparently the source. It will be curious to see if the media picks up on that one the way they did the "sniper fire" of Sen. Clinton.

    Here is the story as covered in the Star Telegram as well as No Quarters

    http://www.star-telegram.com/metro_news/story/606929.html

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:30 AM

  62. ubns: I am trying to find video of what Andrea Mitchell said on MOJO and maybe the stump speech she is referring to as well. If Obama takes this back to being about Hillary and McCain and "silly season", he is making a grave tactical error. It will show his performance yesterday as being disingenuous (which, I believe it was.) Or, more to the point, it was a day late and a dollar short.

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:33 AM

  63. Apparently there were a lot of Obama people commenting last PM. I'll have to go and read that.

    In the AM, the Obama people are usually outnumbered 10 to 1 by the KKK (Klinton Koolaid Klub).

    Calm down. It's just a little harmless joke. I'm just playing the (white) race card.

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:34 AM

  64. that does it.........I'm plugging in the "Race Toaster"

    Posted by: sturgeone | April 30, 2008 8:36 AM

  65. You see , Hillary voted for the war and now she is against it. Is she a flip-flopper? Or has she learned from her mistake of voting for the war in the first place? Obama was for a temporary gas tax relief when he was a legislature in Illinois. He is against a temporary gas tax relief now that he is running for President. I asked Brian if Obama could be called a flip-flopper because he was once for a gas tax relief and now he is against a gas tax relief. Brian said that he simply learned from his earlier mistake. I thought that was a spin on Brian's part.

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:37 AM

  66. I found the Andrea Mitchell clip:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fju_bC3qnrE

    She states very clearly that Obama trivialized the issue on the stump last night, much to her surprise. She states that he seemed to blame McCain and Hillary once again for the whole issue. Unbelievable. Unfreakingbelievable.

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:41 AM

  67. Yeah , Nash. You'd like it here at night.

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:43 AM

  68. I just took a look at the comments on the last thread since 7PM last night. What I saw was a balanced discussion. Not always polite but many of the more extreme statements are probably not meant to be taken seriously.

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:46 AM

  69. re: the gas tax cut proposal

    McCain and Clinton both support this. It's interesting how much of a Republican Hillary is becoming. (Every problem can be solved with a tax cut.)

    McCain and Hillary both supported the Iraq war. This is another Republican idea. (Every problem can be solved by going to war with someone.)

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:50 AM

  70. Sturgeone

    Pass the Blackberry Jam

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:51 AM

  71. mornin' all.

    sturg, Ping, Ally....LOL. The coffee tastes a little better with your good humor this morning.

    (and Corey, while CBob may have been from CO, he lived in TX).

    Gordo, I'm really not all that bothered by Obama having the support of the radicals from the 60s. Fonda and Hayden got almost respectable - hell, she married Mr. CNN (one of my favorite boat drivers btw). They had to go somewhere politically, and Obama would probably be the least unattractive candidate to a late middle aged 60s ex-yippie. Aside from possibly Jerry Rubin, I would expect all of them to support the farthest left dem candidate. Obama really has little control over who supports him, but some of them may take some 'splainin' when the repug swiftites get a hold of him.

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:53 AM

  72. Do you think Roland Martin and Soledad O'Brien feel a little silly now that Obama has thrown Wright under the bus? They were so indignant on Saturday night: arms folded and arguing with the guests. This was going to be the moment that Wright proved himself to be a rational uniter and not a series of crazy YouTube clips. How's that going for them now that Obama has basically called Wright a Whackadoodle?

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:56 AM

  73. Ally: Andrea Mitchell is married to former Fed. Reserve chair Alan Greenspan, one of the most profoundly conservative Republican economists of his generation. Mitchell is just one more supposedly objective MSM "journalist" who is a covert right wing ideologue.

    You Hillary people are blind to the fact that the conservatives are attacking Obama and supporting Hillary because they pretty sure they can beat her, but they're worried about Obama.

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:57 AM

  74. You're right , Nash. Look at how the Clinton and Obama supporters have gone to war with each other here and nobody has changed sides. Just hurt feelings and people leaving.

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 8:58 AM

  75. Clinton agrees to Missoula debate, Obama still mulling offer

    HELENA - "Hillary Rodham Clinton on Monday accepted a weekly newspaper publisher's invitation to participate in a Lincoln-Douglas debate in Missoula, while her Democratic presidential rival Barack Obama's campaign said it was evaluating the offer.

    "Montanans deserve a chance to hear where Senator Obama and I stand on important issues that matter to them before they cast their votes in June,” said Clinton, a senator from New York. “A Lincoln-Douglas debate in Missoula would give them the opportunity to see up-close our positions on health care, the economy, education, alternative energy and the other crucial issues affecting their communities.”

    http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2008/04/29/news/local/news03.txt

    Posted by: GORDO | April 30, 2008 9:00 AM

  76. Nash: You have GOT to be kidding me that Andrea is in the tank for a Hillary victory. Have you been watching MSNBC for the last three months? She goes out of her way to be snarky about Hillary. The Clinton supporters on this blog hurl insults at Andrea on a DAILY basis. You Obama People are spinning with this latest Barack flip. I know it's confusing for you (Wright Good. Now Wright Bad. Must keep up.)

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:00 AM

  77. And by the way, you don't have to train me on who Andrea is married to. I am well aware.

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:01 AM

  78. What do you think Wright is going to do in the next few days? I think one of the networks or shows like Inside Editition or Entertainment Tonight are going to get him to respond. I can't see him sitting on the sidelines now.

    Posted by: vadaryl Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:05 AM

  79. Clinton courts the homophobic vote: her surrogate, NC governor Easley, says Hillary is no "pansy."

    http://www.americablog.com/2008/04/hillarys-top-nc-surrogate-bashes-gays.html

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:06 AM

  80. Maybe other pastors on both sides are going to be giving their opinions on this and could make this spin out of control.

    Posted by: vadaryl Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:08 AM

  81. The Obama vs Wright drama reminds me of a Laurel and Hardy movie where Stan receives a telegram in which he is told he will receive a great fortune on one condition: If he leaves Ollie behind forever. Stan decides to not only leave Ollie behind , but take their dog with him as well. Ollie cannot believe Stan would leave him AND take their dog. He begins singing: o/' You'll be sorry much too late , when our friendship turns to hate...o/' He continues to sing this until Stan changes his mind.

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:08 AM

  82. Good morning nash, pogo. To stop all this enthusiasm for a new and greater day, I am posting this reminder . When the lyric "...there's a hole in Daddy's arm, where the money goes..." comes around, I just think of the hole in Uncle Sam's arm where our taxes go, and you know what that hole is.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OwEyXFhZ9g

    Posted by: Dexter Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:10 AM

  83. Go Wings , Pistons and Tigers , eh Dex?

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:14 AM

  84. pogo ---------------------------

    "but some of them may take some 'splainin' when the repug swiftites get a hold of him."

    Exactly! It fits into a narrative - "Obama is just too extreme for America." Repubs like to use the word EXTREME in attack ads against Dems.

    Posted by: GORDO | April 30, 2008 9:15 AM

  85. Go Pens! 7 in a row.

    Posted by: vadaryl Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:15 AM

  86. Maybe Oprah can arrange for Dr. Phil to do an intervention with Barack and Jeremiah. Heal the wounds and such.

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:16 AM

  87. That would be a great show.

    Posted by: vadaryl Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:17 AM

  88. barack shoulda split when oprah did.......

    Posted by: sturgeone | April 30, 2008 9:17 AM

  89. Maybe Britney can come too. And maybe those crazy violent cheerleaders from Florida that a Dr. Phil staffer bailed out of jail. And maybe Miley Cyrus and her naughty photos. The list of needing healing is long and Dr. Phil's schedule is wide open.

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:23 AM

  90. welcome to newcomers, and thanks to RealClearPolitics Evening Edition for linking us yesterday: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2008/04/29/index.html

    hope some of the newbies will stick around and engage the daily debate around here

    Posted by: Craig Crawford Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:25 AM

  91. Sturge,

    A Swiss Army Knife: I can do a lot of things well in a pinch, but in every case there's some tool around that does that job better.

    Posted by: EdVB Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:26 AM

  92. It's almost May 1st and after 15 months we still don't know much about Obama. Something is wrong with this picuture.

    Posted by: vadaryl Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:30 AM

  93. Corey: It's HEAVEN! Last night Franzen continued his magic and Datsyuk's and Zetterberg's goals were beautiful works of art. And
    Ozzie just stands on his head for about 55 minutes a game. Of course the Tigs beat the damn Yankees, and then Rasheed came back with a vengeance and the Pistons clobbered Philly...it's the best of all times...all three teams kicking ass at once in the greatest sports town in America!
    DEE-troit!

    Posted by: Dexter Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:30 AM

  94. Since Hillary's surrogates are gay bashing, I guess it's only fair to consider those persistent rumors: is Hillary a lesbian?

    Remember, Clinton fans of swiftboating, it doesn't have to be true. As long as the MSM covers the "story," the damage is done.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/2/201720/2271/270/467568

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:31 AM

  95. The Pens will be beat the Wings.

    Posted by: vadaryl Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:31 AM

  96. If being a lesbian gets her as much fame, fortune and goodwill as it got Ellen, I say hurray! I don't see how that rumor would hurt her...I am too much of a rube to figure it out.

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:36 AM

  97. Rez.

    "What do you have on this, I'm curious"

    Rez,

    A number of little things.
    HRC's AA supporters are speaking favorably about Wright or trying to dampen the feeding frenzy.
    Everything about the NAACP meeting from the introduction I posted yesterday onward looked like a rallying of the AA community around Wright. Obama and the national press are trying to say this "attack on the black church" is just a ego driven idea by Reverend Wright but I'm begining to think there may be broader support for the idea in the AA community.

    Jack

    Posted by: whskyjack | April 30, 2008 9:36 AM

  98. Okay , Vadaryl. We'll see. They both have to get there first.

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:37 AM

  99. vadaryl

    There is simply too much about Sen. Obama that seems to be a purposefully constructed image rather than a real person. I've known many people who did this ... create a person they wanted to be and then lived the image. After a certain point even they don't know who is real and who is reel. This latest bit about his book is just one more example.

    It doesn't make him a bad person or even an incompetent one, but it does mean that ambition far outweighs all other considerations. Wright was needed until he wasn't needed. This will be the fate of anyone who messes with the image.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:39 AM

  100. It's not May Day quite yet...today is April 30. Thirty-three years ago today the war against the people of Vietnam ended when the US was run out of Saigon, people scrambled for helicopter rides out , on top the US Embassy, and helicopters were shoved off carriers into the South China Sea.
    We finally quit that war when Congress cut off ALL funding, then came the last hectic months of retreat and evacuation, culminating in the April 30, 1975 finality.
    That's all Congress has to do, you know? They just have to cut off the dollar drain to Iraq to end the war. They have no intention on doing it. McCain and Hillary and Obama all support keeping that white-elephant US Embassy in Iraq, for starters. We're stuck.

    Posted by: Dexter Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:39 AM

  101. Barack is just sticking around to sabatoge Hillary's campaign so he can run again in 2012.

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:39 AM

  102. Jamie: Or, he is just a person who doesn't know himself very well.

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:40 AM

  103. Craig...
    I wouldn't get your hopes up too high...... looks like most of last night's traffic was just a drive-by fruiting.....

    Dex..... great to see you, my friend.... now that the Bruins be no more.... I'm rooting for your Red Wings....

    and now a word from our sponsor.....

    I'm a lesbian, she's a lesbian..... wouldn't you like to be a lesbian too.....
    be a lesbian..... drink Dr. lesbian....

    Posted by: RebelliousRenee Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:44 AM

  104. vadaryl:
    Penguins seem to be unstoppable, but by the way the Red Wings are destroying the Avs...at least maybe the poor little Wings might win one game. Too bad the Rangers crashed and burned....poor Blueshirts....

    Posted by: Dexter Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:47 AM

  105. I must be a lesbian too , because I like women!

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:48 AM

  106. RR

    That Mr. Mom scene has to be one of the best. : )

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:48 AM

  107. The Pens are on a roll, I just hope they did not peak to soon.

    Posted by: vadaryl Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:48 AM

  108. New Poll Shows Clinton Tough for Obama to Shake
    The latest daily Gallup tracking poll shows Hillary Clinton up 1 point over Barack Obama in a national head-to-head match-up, 47-46 percent. ...

    we all know Senator Clinton killed her lesbian lover
    Vince Foster.

    Posted by: Obamophobic | April 30, 2008 9:50 AM

  109. Nash: Maybe you could find a real scandal. Park yourself outside her house in Chappaqua and see if she recycles. Now that would be a REAL story.

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:50 AM

  110. Dex,

    Baseball is not very democratic. Yeah, Detroit had more guys win the big states by touching home, but the Yanks should have more delegates because we had more runners touch third, second, and first.

    Posted by: EdVB Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:52 AM

  111. Next , you'll be saying the SDs are for the Yankees! LOL!

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 9:54 AM

  112. "looks like most of last night's traffic was just a drive-by fruiting -- posted by RebelliousRenee"

    ah, but RR, many a valued regular started out here as a drive by

    Posted by: Craig Crawford Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:01 AM

  113. Obama is scripted in every way. He does not project himself as person with personal confidence or a strong sense of self. He does not seem to be able to just "be." To speak, what he thinks, at a movements notice without a script.

    Much like an actor playing a part, reading the lines written for a man who should be president . That is when Obama truly appears comfortable.

    imo

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:05 AM

  114. Craig: Thank you for explaining what was going on. I was confused at the outrage expressed by some over one of your less "controversial" posts. I apologize to any people I might have called "trolls" because I started as a drive-by. (I didn't call anybody a troll to their face...just behind their back. I was gossiping. Even worse.)

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:11 AM

  115. EDVb: How novel! The popular vote (runners on base) means NOTHING! Who crosses home plate in Denver? That's what matters! Nice concept!

    Posted by: Dexter Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:12 AM

  116. I bet Wright takes Obama words and uses them as a catapult for more press. He has built his life career on his ministry and to have the someone so popular, someone he mentored, throw him under the bus - What an opportunity.

    I bet Rev Wright is just seeing dollar signs floating in front of his eyes, book deals, speaking deals, maybe Tv church deal...only in America.

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:13 AM

  117. Ellen was really funny yesterday.....the "interview" segment.

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:17 AM

  118. Jamie,

    I remember when the book "Black Like Me" was in the local papers. There was a big firestorm of newspaper articles. It was about the time of the Civil Rights Marches. The author did darken his skin not the other way around. It is easy to confuse that point, I would imagine.

    yo soy Horsedooty!

    Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty! Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:17 AM

  119. Barack has integrity, Hillary has NONE. It would be a tragedy of immense proportions if that horrible woman ever got back in the White House. She is a liar and a fraud.!!!!!

    Posted by: Skylark Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:18 AM

  120. Why do you think Michelle Obama appears so infrequently in the media? Seems she doesn't get the same 'look' as the other candidate's spouse.

    Posted by: beatwork Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:19 AM

  121. And Craig: The reason I might have called some posters "trolls" is because they were rude to the host. I am a little old-fashioned that way. Respectful disagreement and dialogue goes down a little easier with me.

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:23 AM

  122. "I might have called some posters "trolls" is because they were rude to the host. I am a little old-fashioned that way. Respectful disagreement and dialogue goes down a little easier with me. -- Posted by: Ally"

    i do agree that respectful debate is more edifying, but i never mind getting bashed. consider me the straw man.

    Posted by: Craig Crawford Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:26 AM

  123. I've noticed that on cable news coverage today Hillary is talking about how to address problems with concrete colutions. She evidences a true empathy for the problems Americans face.

    Obama is primarily dealing with the Wright issue.

    Whether fair or unfair, thiscan't be helpful for him in the upcoming primaries.

    Posted by: Oregon Democrat | April 30, 2008 10:27 AM

  124. solutions, not colutions

    Posted by: Oregon Democrat | April 30, 2008 10:29 AM

  125. Indiana latest polls

    RCP Average 04/20 - 04/28 -- 46.4 44.2 Clinton +2.2
    PPP (D) 04/27 - 04/28 1347 LV 50 42 Clinton +8.0
    SurveyUSA 04/25 - 04/27 628 LV 52 43 Clinton +9.0
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/in/indiana_democratic_primary-639.html

    Posted by: POLLCAT | April 30, 2008 10:32 AM

  126. OK. I won't fight your battles for you...that would be emasculating anyway. There is still something unnerving about the way anonymity makes people feel comfortable using the most vile language on the Internets.

    I have some news to possibly share at the end of the week and will look forward to some feedback from the well traveled/educated regulars and host. Stay tuned!

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:32 AM

  127. unlikely B,

    I doubt if it is the first time that the good Reverend has been disappointed in one of his flock. Remember In Chicago, the Reverend Wright is more important than Obama. As far as the black community, Obama may represent their dreams but Reverend Wright and other ministers like him are their foundation.

    Jack

    Posted by: whskyjack | April 30, 2008 10:32 AM

  128. Just a couple of thoughts this morning...

    The Father of LSD sure had a long trip.

    Ally -- I found a pod by my computer this morning.

    Jason -- "Glue Speed" to you.

    BHO and GWB are mirror images.

    Andrea Mitchell did marry "up," but is now suffering from Botox Leak.

    And finally, if the Clintons were that powerful to influence the Kerry candidacy, the Rev. Wright situation, etc., she'd have the nomination by now.

    Posted by: Blonde wino Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:37 AM

  129. I don't really know much about Michelle Obama.

    I don't know why she seems to be less acive on the campaign trail.

    But, I do notice in conversations with people, there is often a negative reaction to her. When pressed, there are very few specifics.

    My unscientific theory is that some people just don't like her because she comes accross as strong with strong opinion...and she is a woman.

    We see a lot of this same type of nonsense aimed toward Hillary on a daily basis here.

    Posted by: Oregon Democrat | April 30, 2008 10:39 AM

  130. Wino: Girl, you are ON this morning!

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:39 AM

  131. OD....I knew Jackie Kennedy and believe, Michelle Obama, you are no Jackie Kennedy.

    Posted by: Blonde wino Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:42 AM

  132. Dooty

    "It is easy to confuse that point, I would imagine."

    I imagine it might be. Since I haven't read Sen. Obama's book, I don't know how he characterized it. From the description in the newspaper article, it would seem that he either didn't read "Black Like Me" or he chose to "misremember" the incident. It is a minor thing except for the way that Sen. Clinton was treated because she "misremembered" an incident until the reality was revealed.

    I can see where someone warned of sniper fire and a corkscrew landing would remember it as being part of an event and tell it as an interesting story. I can see where a young man looking for an identity could see a dramatic photo in a black oriented magazine and make it part of a description in an autobiography. The question is, will the media treat the two "phony" events the same?

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:43 AM

  133. Jamie,

    I can remember what happened in 1995 and 96 much easier than in the early 1960's. I suspect he may have not read the book and heard someone talking about it.

    yo soy Horsedooty!

    Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty! Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:46 AM

  134. I think that he reason the Rev. Wright has said such outrageous things is because he is jealous of Barack and maybe doesn't want him to be President. Otherwise why would he be such a negative for Barack? Also he has a huge ego and loves the attention. This will not hurt Barack in the long term He will still get more delegates and be the Democratic nominee.

    STOP THE DRAMA QUEEN, VOTE OBAMA !!!!!

    Posted by: Skylark Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:47 AM

  135. Obama appeared downcast as he denounced the Honorable Rev. Wright who like his grandmother he aptly threw under the bus for political expediency. I admire Obama's nobility in seizing upon Wright's indefensible comments after waiting {four days} submissively as to how the polls were driving the controversy. Wright's histrionics and Injurious comments to the nation was subordinate to those of Obama's ambition, and the Rubicon was crossed when Wright called Obama out with a simple truth "He's a politician. "

    toast

    Posted by: Milquetoast | April 30, 2008 10:47 AM

  136. here is a counter point to the Clinton/McCain gas tax relief suggestions for the summer. Tom Friedman is the author.

    It is not a long article.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/opinion/30friedman.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

    Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty! Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:50 AM

  137. "I admire Obama's nobility in seizing upon Wright's indefensible comments"

    What indefensible comment?

    Jack

    Posted by: whskyjack | April 30, 2008 10:53 AM

  138. Gee Whiz Skylark

    What did Hillary ever do to you, give your child rabies or something?

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:56 AM

  139. I probrably respect Tom Friedman less than just about anyone in the press.

    Franklin Roosevelt understood that in time of difficulty you had to be innovative.

    You had to provide BOTH shortterm relief and longterm reform.

    Hillary Clinton understands that...

    The immediate suffering of people is not trivial.

    Posted by: Oregon Democrat | April 30, 2008 10:56 AM

  140. Did the mustache of understanding ask for six more months for gas prices to come down. It takes some nerve for Friedman, the war monger and multi millionaire kept husband to complain about others solutions gas taxes.

    The cause of the high gas prices is the war in Iraq and the excuses it has given to speculators. Friedman enver takes responsibility for his role and his continuing to give the war and Bush the benefit of the doubt.

    Friedman has no credibility,. None. Just like his neighbors on the editorial page, Kristol and others he is more about making himself look good.

    Plus he conflates the McCain and Clinton proposals which are not the same.

    Posted by: Six More Months | April 30, 2008 10:58 AM

  141. dex, old friend - I can't open youtube, but John Prine in the morning - what a great way to inject a dark reality into an otherwise happy day. Sam Stone is one of my favorite JP songs - a good buddy of mine opened for JP in Tuscaloosa back in the late 80s. Prine was drunk off his ass and could barely keep the head up, feet down stance, but he put on a great concert. And I like the tie-in with the end of Vietnam, fall of Saigon. There's a certain theme to yoru posting this morning.

    Gordo - or he can ignore it, as if he;s above all that now that he's denounced the good reverend. Guess he was just wrong when he said he could no more denounce him than he could denounce his white grandmother (I guess mom doesn't count) simply because of the despicable things he said before - of course as was astutely pointed out above, those comments weren't about him. But calling him a politician - that's just too much. As Bugs said, "You know, of course, this means war."

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:58 AM

  142. After Hillary on Bill O'Reilly at 8 of FOX then Michelle Obama speaks out to Anderson Cooper on CNN about the Wright controversy. How it's affecting the family and her husband's campaign, tonight at 10 ET.

    What a night!

    Posted by: vadaryl Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 11:02 AM

  143. OD

    Send me an email at

    webthings at comcast dot net

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 11:03 AM

  144. Pogo...and the 'little black duck' told Bugs he was "dispicable!"

    Posted by: Blonde wino Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 11:04 AM

  145. In Kentucky, Obama is about as popular as flies at a picnic..

    Posted by: Oregon Democrat | April 30, 2008 11:04 AM

  146. Corey, damn, I must be a lesbian, too. I didn't realize that all it took was liking women (yes, in THAT way). For some reason, I thought you had to be born with a clitoris to be a lesbian. And here I thought you were just one more horny guy looking for a date.

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 11:05 AM

  147. Did I spell "flies" correctly?? Off to telephone for Hillary.

    Posted by: Oregon Democrat | April 30, 2008 11:09 AM

  148. Blondie, that was Daffy - and it is pronounced "disthpppicable."

    Jack, what nobility?

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 11:09 AM

  149. I don't know about some of the new folks. When they start addressing messages to people who don't exist, you have to wonder.

    Who's Kooky?

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 11:10 AM

  150. If Obama wants the Wright thing to go away then he better make sure that Michelle does not say to much about it. If she rattles the cage some more then it may just cause Wright to go off again if he has not said anything before she shows up.

    Posted by: vadaryl Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 11:11 AM

  151. vad - do you really care how the Wright issue is affecting the Obama family? I can offer an alternative - the Cavs and Wazards - game 4 tonight. Will Ben Wallace wear cornrows or his afro? Will Lebron score >30? These are interesting things to ponder - and can be answered by watching the Cavs tonight.

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 11:14 AM

  152. whether or not Friedman has any cred is not the point. The point is that for the summer if you buy, oh, say 20 gallons of gas a week in a fill up, you save about $9 per tank full. If the summer season is considered 12 weeks, multiply 9 x 12 = 108, so is that enough of a savings for you to even jack with? How will you spend your windfall? Bags of Rice? 1/10 of the mortgage pay down? It is smoke and mirrors folks.

    yo soy Horsedooty!

    Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty! Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 11:15 AM

  153. No I don't really care how it's affecting their family but TV soap opra wise I hope she rattles the cage and Wright reacts to it. The real soaps are make believe this is real!.

    Posted by: vadaryl Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 11:19 AM

  154. Kooky,

    Just noticed your Andrea I love Obama Michel report.

    Your sentiments are right on the mark.

    Goebbels at work. The Reichstag is next and Andrea will bring the matches.

    Good morning.

    nick

    I would think her Jewish heritage would strongly disagree.

    yo soy Horsedooty!

    Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty! Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 11:20 AM

  155. Pogo...sorry you missed our posts about Daffy Duck -- the 'little black duck' is another phrase used for Daffy Duck (I am a true devotee of Warner Bros. cartoons)

    The latest from BHO's campaign to HRC

    http://www.stuporduck.com/sounds/DS001.wav

    Posted by: Blonde wino | April 24, 2008 9:32 PM

    Posted by: Blonde wino Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 11:20 AM

  156. Jamie: Me Kooky. Nick has renamed me because the other night I said, "Call me kooky but..." I like my new name! I am a little off...

    Vad: Anderson ADORES Obama. He won't let Michelle get off the tracks. No worries there.

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 11:20 AM

  157. There is always some hope!

    Posted by: vadaryl Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 11:22 AM

  158. If she had any guts then she should also show up on FOX.

    Posted by: vadaryl Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 11:23 AM

  159. vad, you don;t think that sending the wife out to Larry King to talk about it is a good way to make it go away? Come, now, man.

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 11:23 AM

  160. Why isn't Friedman suggesting Bush "jawbone" big oil
    as JFK did with big steel.

    Friedman is a self indulgent ass who is as much responsible for the fallout from the war as anyone.
    He should resign in disgrace not continue to provide more bullcrap.

    Posted by: Do nothing much better. | April 30, 2008 11:23 AM

  161. Well, I got all the Clinton supporters to spring to Hillary's defense arguing that she's NOT a lesbian.

    See how is easy it is to frame the debate by swiftboating?

    Today's top story on MSNBC: "Supporters deny rumors that Hillary Clinton is a lesbian."

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 11:24 AM

  162. "I admire Obama's nobility in seizing upon Wright's indefensible comments"

    What indefensible comment?

    Jack

    Posted by: whskyjack

    Unless Wright has proof regarding his AIDS comment his statement his no merit IMO, but it is defensible and I should not have used that term.

    toast

    Posted by: Milquetoast | April 30, 2008 11:24 AM

  163. I think it is crazy for her to be out on any show today. If the reporter was doing his job and she showed up then she is fair game!

    Posted by: vadaryl Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 11:26 AM

  164. Corey...you must be have seen the 'L Word' on Showtime....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-word

    In season 1, Alice is dating a man who is a lesbian.

    Posted by: Blonde wino Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 11:28 AM

  165. Obama and cocaine
    did he or didn't he. Is his whole story fake.
    Is he the James Frey of politics
    he never did drugs? He never agreed with Wright.

    Why isn't Oprah springing to his defense.

    Posted by: Where's Oprah | April 30, 2008 11:28 AM

  166. Why isn't Friedman suggesting Bush "jawbone" big oil
    as JFK did with big steel.
    sagely written by "Do nothing much better"

    because Bush would not do it. Lame Duck Bush is just riding out the string. Complaining that the Dem Congress is to blame for this economy when it is his policies that have put us in the shape we are in.

    Who is Do nothing much better anyway. Another drive by or a serial name changer?

    yo soy Horsedooty!

    Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty! Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 11:28 AM

  167. hd, we agree on the gas tax holiday. I think it's stupid, although because of our jobs and living on t