Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

I think I'll check in before looking at the video, :)

Obama's website quietly ditches Hamas supporter

"The Obama campaign quietly removed from its official website a page managed by a fundraiser tied to the Islamic terrorist group Hamas.

The page for Hatem El-Hady – former chairman of an Islamic charity closed by the U.S. government for terrorist fundraising – listed Barack Obama's wife, Michelle, as one of three "friends" as recently as yesterday...

But by yesterday morning, days after Johnson's "Little Green Football's" site drew attention to the El-Hady page, Michelle Obama's name had been removed. Then, later in the day, the entire page disappeared."

(Yes, I know it is WND)

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=62653

Tell us more about Grigs, Craig.

Good video..watched first part , then began to stop and start.. will watch later..

President Clinton had a great rally, packing them in in the small South Coast town of North Bend.

We have beautiful weather today as President Cllinton holds Solutions for America rallies in Junction City, Albany, Monmouth (Western Oregon University), McMinnville, Oregon City, and Portland.

Oregonians look forward to the two debates in or sate that are proposed by Senator Clinton, one dealing exclusively with Oregon rural issues.

The Obama campaign says the debates would not be a good use of his time.

omg that video was great! And funny! Especially Dukakis... what a doofus! And I don't think I ever saw the Howard Dean screaming video though to be honest, I didn't think it was all that bad...

Michael Dukakis is a very fine person. I was proud to volunteer on his campaign and still remember the great outdoor rally at Portland State University the day before the election.

He carried or state of Oregon and we would have been a lot better off if he had won the election.

Who's Grigs? Dog? Cat? Unknown Relative?

I thought Michael Dukakis was a wooden idiot. He has no charisma, no charm... the only thing I thought he had going for him was that his cousin was Olympia Dukakis... He couldn't even recover from the debate question by Bernard Shaw... remember? CNN's Bernard Shaw opened the debate with this question to Gov. Dukakis: "Governor, if Kitty Dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer?" Dukakis responded, "No, I don't, Bernard. And I think you know that I've opposed the death penalty during all of my life. I don't see any evidence that it's a deterrent, and I think there are better and more effective ways to deal with violent crime. We've done so in my own state."

From CNN.com:

The question was meant to give Dukakis an opportunity to show -- and the voters an opportunity to see -- the emotional side of a candidate dubbed by many as the "Ice Man." Shaw had said that the voters had a difficult time getting a "feeling fix" on Dukakis, and felt that only a very personal question could elicit an emotional response. (In fact, he feared that he might be criticized for asking a too-easy question.) But Dukakis' response did just the opposite. Dukakis' passionless response was the news out of the debate.

********************

Dukakis had even less charisma than John Kerry and THAT's saying something...

Gordo,
It seems Obama is starting to take more seriously the stuff we have posted here than the Obama supporters. We have both mentioned El-Hady and Rez should note this guy was mentioned in that "eacko" Candaian Press article. Obama cannot cover his tracks however. The Republican Machine is taking every note to show how Obama is trying to pivot center and cover up his past affiliations. Soon you will see AAAN retract their colaboration with Cairns. It is all a big game to limit damage. A game to fool the uninformed.

Yes, Obama's suits are far more than $1000. I was just being casual in my pricing. They are probably closer to $5000 which only makes my point stronger.

http://stubbornfacts.us/politics/2008_election/the_late_and_unlamented#comment-14201

This is the link from the last thread which discusses the popular vote and whether Obama should really take the high road and drop out. If he loses the general, kiss his ass good-bye.

Good clips Craig. Perhaps a picture of Obama with Auchi? How about a clip of Obama listening to a rant by Wright or even Farrakhan? There are many opportunites in the dog race for a single major flub to end it for a candidate.

Max I don't think we need to be doing that here. The right wing is already doing it for us and I do not agree. I am for Hillary; I am not for tearing down Barack Obama is such a manner.

I'm off to Portland for the President Clinton event.

Bye

New Republic: Reverend Wright was a Muslim turned Christian

"Chameleon presidential candidate Barack Obama appears to have something else in common with his mentor and spiritual inspiration, Rev. Jeremiah Wright. A recently uncovered article from a credible source indicates that Wright, like Obama, was a Muslim before he Christianized. A previously unnoticed 2007 report from a senior editor in the New Republic indicates that Wright was a "former Muslim." The report indicates that Wright's background was a factor in persuading Obama to join his church and thus improve his "street cred."

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12784.htm

Honestly have people taken their mean pills today? If Reverend Wright was a Muslim and converted to Christianity, so what? It doesn't make him less of a Christian. In fact, one could argue that it makes him even more of one because he chose to leave one religion for another. It's not something he inherited, but something he sought out. For that he should be commended!

On Fox News this morning, Martin Frost was very defensive while discussing McCain's mention of the Hamas endorsement of Obama. The Repub was on the attack - Frost was not happy.

Max - we understand that this is only the beginning for the attacks on Obama. The Obama supporters are in denial.

Gordo,

Is that inter-galactic tractor beam a handheld model or is it on wheels? Please post a photo if you have one. Thank you!

well here the "one more cow" version of an inter-galactic tractor beam: http://www.ohgizmo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/abductionlamp_cow_ill_500x500.jpg

Ok well color me embarrassed... My first one I tried to change.. oh well, they both say pretty much the same thing...

ROFLMAO! Good one, Crawford

Tom,
I think you should understand that Obama selected his pastor and Wright shares some significant views with Obama's first mentor, Frank Davis. If you check out what Davis wrote about Jesus and then explore the theology that Wright inclines to, it is certainly fair game to see the common view. Obama has been touted by his wife as the smartest and most intellectual candidate running. Then it is not credible that he does not understand the links between radical black theology which Wright often falls into and the idea Hamas and the ISM crowd tout as Jesus being black. There is absolutely a link between the two groups and now that this is surfacing, Obama's campaign is cleaning up the links. Hillary does not have this problem. I repeat: the links between Obama's religious connections and the ISM crowd are loud and clear. Do your homework.

You are completely missing the point and the thread I linked is a centrist thread. Tully, in fact, is working on a Democratic campaign. I find it absurd to be touting the high road after Obama's latest remarks on race and oil prices. Check out his fear-mongering and suggesting Hillary quitting before McCain wins. What you are asking me to do is to ignore the very problems that will sink Obama in the general. Can't do that Tom. Now where the hell do you think Obama got his mantra, or does that not matter too? It seems you want to ignore a hundred dots and when someone starts drawing the lines between them and a picture emerges you say, don't draw, leave them as unimportant dots. Then you say, let's discuss the real issues, but even then as in the last debate Obama stutters over the economy, Israel, and slips back into his redundant, boring rhetoric about uniting Republicans, Democrats and Indies. He hasn't done that and has no record of doing that. He wants to make the NeoLiberal line mainstream. It is a shame. Hillary supporters ought to be saying that loud and clear. Count Florida, count Michigan, vet the record and end the slide into a racial divide now amplified by the Obama campaign. He will get his ass kicked in the general and not because of racists or bitter Democrats. He has made his bed and wants us to think he is sleeping somewhere else. He is playing out the clock as Hillary is landing blows. I find it rather pathetic. Obama harkened back to Truman and JFK again Tuesday night. Really now Barry........He will say anything to get elected even praising Reagan and Bush 1. It doesn't matter. Obama thinks he can have it both ways and call character issues, destractions. I wonder what he will call defeat, a major distraction?

Craig! Stop, I have tears in my eyes. When I moved to the Netherlands and later to Belgium, I was fascinated by all the cows there were around, and I'd stop my bike go over near the fence and start MOOing... Yes, I know, retarded but true... most of the time the cows would just look at me and go back to their grass chewing... one time coming home from a vacation in Northern France I had to stop for a moment and I saw these cows in a pasture, so I made the moo-ing sounds and the whole damn herd started walking my way.. Scared the bejeezus out of me! Anyway, I tell people I can't speak French but I do "moo" in French...

This is such "udder" nonsense, but I had to "milk" the subject for all it was worth :-)

Uh max... I was just commenting on what Gordo posted about Rev. Wright once being a Muslim and that I didn't think that was relevant. I support Hillary Clinton. I have consistently said that all votes should count from all the primaries, and I don't think what Obama is doing to suppress the count in Michigan and Florida is even a little bit democratic.

I don't mind criticisms and I do believe Hillary is the stronger candidate. I liked some of what Jeremiah Wright said but, unfortunately, he went too far with some sermons, particularly the "God DAMN America" comment. But, in the context that he might have been once a Muslim, well that shouldn't reflect badly on him. I don't get why that is important. It's all starting to sound so Manchurian in nature. If I were a Christian, I'd be pleased to hear that Rev. Wright converted from Islam to Christianity. What I was trying to say before was that, if it is true, he made a conscious choice about faith and belief, unlike so many of us who grow up in a certain religious identity that is handed down generation to generation.

I am still quite for Hillary!!!

Right - just like Jamie. Sure.

Reminds me of that South Park Craig.

Someone should a few of these lamps to Kucinich....

my husband went to sale barn last night and brought home a black angus steer.We usually butcher one every year but freezer is so full now we will just let him graze then reurn him to sale barn in late fall.We live on 2 acres and he keeps the grass down.And if we butcher you can't get better beef.No chemicals or red dye in meat
Ruth

Obama was on the cover of Vogue in 2006 and in recent appearances he and Dave Letterman talked about what a stylin guy he is. It's not because he gets his suits off the rack at Robert Hall

and he does not shop at Books Brothers but does
frequent Barney's.

$5000 might not be far off and of course the point was Obama standing in a gas station trying to appeal to blue collar motorists wearing an expensive suit while blaming Hillary for rising gas prices. Now that's crazyville.

Tom, you miss the underlying convergence between the Hamas strategy and radical black theology. Both see a point is making similar stands towards Jews and even the color of Jesus's skin. There is certainly a serious thread between Davis, Wright, Meeks, Farrakhan, Lee, Khalidi and a host of others connected to Trinity and Woods Fund. It is not credible Obama knows nothing of this. It is fair game because it shakes the image Obama would like us to believe about his inclinations and rhetoric.
The Obama damage control is to isolate the leaks and keep the dots separate. There is simply too much time before the election to achieve this deflection. The ISM connections are being flushed out, the money trail examined and the Republicans hoping they face Obama come November.

Right Wing view of herd of liberals

http://www.goofigure.com/images/library/heads_up_ass.jpg

McCain Rips Obama for Weatherman Link

"Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., continued to try and use the Weather Underground to rain on Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., telling conservative bloggers in a conference call today that Obama needs to repudiate William Ayers, apologize to Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., for comparing him to Ayers (as an example of a friend with whom Obama disagrees), and to apologize to the American people for his relationship with Ayers, "an unrepentant terrorist."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/tinkers-to-ever.html

h

---------- Forwarded Message ----------

Visiting Priest
The priest usually visited the area every six months and was surprised when Betty Sue told him she got married during his absence.
The good Father asker her if she married a good Catholic boy, Betty Sue replied negatively.
He said "did you marry a good Christian?"
No, I am afraid not.
What did you do marry a member of the Klu Klux Klan?
Betty Sue looked at the priest and asked what was that.
Why the priest replied, it's a devil under the sheet.
Betty Sue winked at the priest and said proudly, "That's my Boy!"

Oh Please, I think William Ayers is being slandered... Here is a statement from Wikipedia:

"In 2001, Ayers published Fugitive Days: A Memoir. Much of the controversy about Ayers during the decade since the year 2000 stems from an interview he gave to the New York Times on the occasion of its publication.[4] The reporter attributed several inflammatory assertions to him including: "I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough." and "I don't want to discount the possibility." when asked if he would "do it all again". [3] Ayers protested the reporter's work in a Letter to the Editor of the New York Times published September 15: "This is not a question of being misunderstood or 'taken out of context', but of deliberate distortion."[5] In the ensuing years, he has repeatedly avowed that "no regrets" had been spoken in reference to his efforts to oppose the Vietnam War, and that "we didn't do enough" had been spoken in reference to his opinion that efforts to stop the United States from waging the Vietnam War were obviously inadequate as the war dragged on for a decade. Ayers has maintained that the two statements were not intended to elide into a wish they had set more bombs.[6][7] The interview also mentions what he wrote in his forward to his memoir regarding Emile de Antonio's 1976 documentary film about Weatherman, Underground: "[Ayers] was 'embarrassed by the arrogance, the solipsism, the absolute certainty that we and we alone knew the way. The rigidity and the narcissism."[3]"

He has certainly disavowed the bomb tactics.

m

She's having posting problems. She thinks it's the blog, but it sure looks like an interrupt problem to me.

And by the way, The Students for a Democratic Society was an important movement for social change in the 60's. I was most impressed with their founding document: "The Port Huron Statement" . Particularly, I was impressed with their view on education and the need for reforms:

"The academic life contains reinforcing counterparts to the way in which extracurricular life is organized. The academic world is founded in a teacher-student relation analogous to the parent-child relation which characterizes in loco parentis. Further, academia includes a radical separation of student from the material of study. That which is studied, the social reality, is "objectified" to sterility, dividing the student from life -- just as he is restrained in active involvement by the deans controlling student government. The specialization of function and knowledge, admittedly necessary to our complex technological and social structure, has produced and exaggerated compartmentalization of study and understanding. This has contributed to: an overly parochial view, by faculty, of the role of its research and scholarship; a discontinuous and truncated understanding, by students, of the surrounding social order; a loss of personal attachment, by nearly all, to the worth of study as a humanistic enterprise.

There is, finally, the cumbersome academic bureaucracy extending throughout the academic as well as extracurricular structures, contributing to the sense of outer complexity and inner powerlessness that transforms so many students from honest searching to ratification of convention and, worse, to a numbness of present and future catastrophes. The size and financing systems of the university enhance the permanent trusteeship of the administrative bureaucracy, their power leading to a shift to the value standards of business and administrative mentality within the university. Huge foundations and other private financial interests shape under-financed colleges and universities, not only making them more commercial, but less disposed to diagnose society critically, less open to dissent. Many social and physical scientists, neglecting the liberating heritage of higher learning, develop "human relations" or morale-producing" techniques for the corporate economy, while others exercise their intellectual skills to accelerate the arms race.

Tragically, the university could serve as a significant source of social criticism and an initiator of new modes and molders of attitudes. But the actual intellectual effect of the college experience is hardly distinguishable from that of any other communications channel -- say, a television set -- passing on the stock truths of the day. Students leave college somewhat more "tolerant" than when they arrived, but basically unchallenged in their values and political orientations. With administrators ordering the institutions, and faculty the curriculum, the student learns by his isolation to accept elite rule within the university, which prepares him to accept later forms of minority control. The real function of the educational system -- as opposed to its more rhetorical function of "searching for truth" -- is to impart the key information and styles that will help the student get by, modestly but comfortably, in the big society beyond."

http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/huron.html

It is sad that some members broke off and created the Weather Underground. I think this was a by-product of frustration over the Vietnam War and the belief that radical action was necessary to end it. Naive yes, and certainly building bombs seems quite contrary to the idea of "all we are saying, is give peace a chance"... But the SDS itself was a post-McCarthyism movement that was brought on by social unrest created by the war, and the inevitable soul-searching that society was confronting after the redbaiting of McCarthyism and the meaning of what America was and should be in the 60s and beyond.

What's an interrupt problem Flatus?
Ruth

I never had this problem until I got new pc with Vista
Ruth

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This is not about the truth. It's about what the Repubs can use against Obama.

See this link:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/04/where-the-buses-dont-run.html#comment-69942

Ruth, an interrupt is kind of like the pass you give the hall monitor when you want to go somewhere. If you don't have the pass, you're stuck.

Do you think that your Vista has all the current updates?

Flatus
Not sure about all updates but pc updates regularly.It could be aol.My son hates aol because he said it controls pc too much.I have pop up control and I disabled it for this site but it didn't make a difference
Ruth

guess the Klan just never struck me as being funny.

As opposed to posting pictures of Htler youth and calling them Clinton supporters

Her new husband was a devil under the sheets.That was the funny part.

Pan-Terrorist Arab Muslim Group Brags About Sponsoring Rev. Wright Speech

"ADC is openly pro-HAMAS/pro-Hezbollah. The Detroit-area chapter of ADC is headed by FBI award revokee, marriage fraud artist, and "former" Islamic terrorist, Imad Hamad."

(Yes, I know it is Debbie Schlussel)

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/

husband going to Peoria riverboat casino.Wants me to go but I am the born loser so am staying home.Gave him a twenty last time he went and he grought me back 75.That's the only way I can win

Sen. Clinton has offered Sen. Obama a "no moderator" debate with each one alternating to control two minute discussions. So far only the sound of silence.

Just looking at Russert. He has Fineman on. What a pompous piece of work. He just told us why the women supporting Mrs Clinton are too poorly educated, and too unread to understand the clarity of Mr Obama's message. What a condescending turd.

Only you thought it was racial. You have a real problem in that respect. You and only you seem to be able to find a racist hiding behind every tree. Why are you so scared?

Most of my AA friends would have thought the joke at least mildly humorous since the Klan is being insulted and a man pleasing a woman in bed is being praised.

Flatus,
I stopped watching Russet and Mathews weeks ago.They take such delight in anything negative about Hillary and lap up everything about Obama and sweep under the rug anything negative about Obama.
Ruth

I didn't understand it, so I just walked by.

Thanks Jamie,
I'm just one of those uneducated Hillary Supporters who just can't understand the message of the Great One.
Ruth

I find that a lot of very educated people have no common sense and if that offends anyone then I am sorry.And if you notice I said a lot not all.Have to be very careful with words.
Ruth

Got another fund raising letter from Mr McCain today. He sure is persistent. I must have gotten at least a dozen in the past couple of months.

Says he's trying to $21.5M in the next 30 days.

I think what he's really trying to do is get people to commit to his candidacy; once they make a contribution, doesn't matter how much, they're invested in the campaign.

Have fun at Prom tonight, Craig, and please be careful and don't hurt yourself again!

Carol, are many of the medical professionals in your cohort supporting Mr McCain?

h

It takes more than intelligence or a good education to understand Obama. It takes ESP. Who really knows what he thinks.

Helen is the designated driver.

Yes, many are but I don't hang with them. I have had to fight with Repubs for many years. Now I try to avoid them.

Good for you, Carol.

EuroTom , that's me in that picture. My 8 year-old niece had her 1st communion today. Off to a cookout now. Red Wings kicking ass today! Later all!

Ruth, I think you ought to serve on that jury!

Brain I can write a book about the difficulty in taking care of people without health insurance. Actually I have and it is still in my computer. I now work in a prison/jail as a NP. It is my retirement job and the most difficult job I have ever had.

I do care about the poor and for years I have been an advocate for the poor.

I even wrote Hillary a letter back when Bill first took office. I outline some of the problems I saw in the healthcare system. She wrote back. I still have her letter. It was just before she took on her healthcare project.

h

I would hang them all Flatus
Ruth

What man?? I am voting for Hillary!! Are you reading my posts??

h

If you missed Moyers interview with Reverend Wright
You can view it here
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04252008/watch.html
You can see the transcript there also
I highly recomend it.

Jack

You guys may be interested in reading the Jackson Williams post on Huff Post, "No laughing matter...."

Max,

I didn't realize you moonlighted as a press reporter.

Sounds like this young Obamaniac is drinking too much kool-aid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kica8hmSdAM

CT

That Jackson article was interesting in its review of the required states

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jackson-williams/no-laughing-matter-obama_b_98670.html

Gallup Daily - All Tied Up

http://www.gallup.com/poll/106825/Gallup-Daily-Clinton-Obama-Tied-47.aspx

Same link as above.

Clinton beats McCain

McCain beats Obama

Jamie,
With the margin of error, the gallup poll shows everybody is tied. Nobody beats nobody.

Indians 4, Yankees 3 final score in Cleveland

Timeline: British billionaire and Barack Obama

"Events bringing Nadhmi Auchi, British-Iraqi billionaire, together with Antoin Rezko, Barack Obama's fundraiser"

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3433363.ece

Loudon Wainwright - The Picture

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yeHsS6sgfgo

Jack

Loudon Wainwright III - Hard day on the planet

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GPIRzu14viA

Jack

the last Loudon Wainwright III for the night

Dead Skunk
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yuY44PHC0wI

Jack

The Band, Who Do You Love
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dn0SngXfzKk

Jack

Jack,
Loudon Wainwright III is going to help you move.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JVX64woxu5k

coming back into nashville oncet on our converterted school bus band vehicle we got halted as the KKK parade was going up Broadway........we said the hell with waiting and we caught an empty space and pulled into the parade......went on down the street for about 10 blocks waving to and being jeered at by the totally angry multitudes lining the street.......very weird......

I must say Billy Ray Cyrus did really well with his fleeting moment of fame..........

Jack,
Here's a sweet little ditty for the ladies from Jeff Beck

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xbx-Qgt65bI

Which is another miracle of your youness, Briley Cyrus!

Even without ever attending a Klan rally, you still attain the vision of someone who lives with a pillowcase pulled over his head.

You are the person you've been waiting for!

coen bros made a good stab at recreating one in a most fanciful way........

Did anyone catch what Richardson said to James Carville the other night on Larry King.He said Obama won the swing states.What swing states could he have been talking about.I thought they were Florida,Ohio,and Penn. and Hillary won those.Has he been drinking the cool-ade
Ruth

richardson is probably being laughed at by the obama group.......he's made himself, I'm afraid, rather jokey.

Bob Dylan - Forever Young
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Il-WqilLCPM

Ruth: Richardson said Obama had won "Battleground States" such as Colorado and Kansas. Colorado? Maybe. Kansas? Highly doubtful.

m

I dont remember which story it is but there is a great and hilarious story on the Klan by Columbia SC writer Wm Price Fox in his book SOUTHERN FRIED + 6..............

the skin head version of "The Rat Race" with Tony Curtis

"No wonder he doesn't want to release his wife's tax returns."

And Slick won't release his Library donor list either because I believe you would find Nadhmi Auchi, British-Iraqi billionaire, together with Antoin Rezko and billionaire Frank Giustra, former owner of Russian Uranium mine on there. Maybe even
Norman Hsu and Johnny Chung.

I goddam sure hope jackie chan aint on that list.........

The trouble with our pentagon: when your brain is a hammer.........every problem is a nail.

LOL Sturgeone

LOL I kinda like Jackie Chan. Don't dirty him up by having him associated with Bubba.

oh come.......what's a war compared to an internecine strife in the democratic party.........america wants to know.........

Obama campaign moves event from a 9,000 person capacity venue to a 2,500 person capacity venue in IN...why? Only 1,400 people showed up...

while...over 3,000 people showed up at a Hillary event in IN...

and now back to your regularly scheduled programming

;-)

As I suspected, when I watched Andrea Mitchell man handle Craig on MSNBC on Friday, he is a Hillary lover. How soon people "forget" that the Clinton family brought scandal and shame to the White House nigh 10 years ago. All of this discussion about why Obama stayed at his church, what about the fact that Hillary satyed with Bill- even after it was made plain that he-did-have-sexual-realtions-with-that-woman. Amazing. Do you really think that they have the best interest of the country at heart? Or will we be discarded and villified like Monica? Like Moveon.Org that formed to save the Clintons? Hillary's pandering is pathetic. She changes every day. What is her answer to upstate New Yorkers when asked about the 200,000 new jobs that she was going to create whilst she was campaigning for the Senate? She says, we were "over ambitious and thought that Al Gore was going to be the President". Please. Not helping the New Yorkers much, but I don't think that was the goal of becoming their senator anyway. And so it goes, they will say anything to get their way, and I am not buying it. Like the Bosnia sniper fire. And obliterate Iran? Iraq wasn't enough of a quagmire.

What kind of campaign has Clinton run? It has run out of money and had multiple firings. Is this a picture of things to come? Funny that we haven't heard about the fund raising after the $10 million in 24 hours. Point 1: Nobody asked what kind of debt they were carrying.....I think that money is gone. 2. I don't think that they got that much. At an inefficient $1 million/day (ouch) pace, that won't get her to May 6.

Criticizing Obama for the cost of his suits? The guy made $4 million dollars. And if he dressed down, you would criticize him for being phoney. How much do Hillary's Suits cost? Why isn't she being criticized for not dressing down? Why isn't she being criticized for not wearing a flag pin? Will she play basketball, since she made such a big deal out Obama's 37? And Shes's not elitist going to Wellesley and Yale? Right.

So, if the Democratic Party implodes, how long will it take for another entity to fill the void?

Frank...thanks so much for Jeff Beck

I also wsh you could find a link for Tommy Bolin.

it's all somewhat akin to the "Blues" and the "Greens"......the chariot teams in Constantinople about the time of Count Belisarius...........strange how everything old is new again.........

Anyone watching the Correspondents Dinner on
C-SPAN?

Craig Ferguson is doing a fairly good job.

hmmm - BIG R much have watched a different Craig Crawford/Andrea Mitchell dialog on Friday than I did because I thought he shut her down quite nicely by explaining the facts rather than going along with her fantasy narrative.

looks like BIG R has his/her own fantasy narrative running through his/her head just like Andrea Mitchell...problem is the narrative is pure fiction and not based in any fact or reality.

[shrugs]

He is doing oops did a good job--like him better there than on his late nite program.

Obama's Twin

"The friendship between these two leaders made headlines last month when it was revealed they were such great buddies that they sort of talk like each other. To wit: Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick ...

The troubling pattern of similarities between Patrick and Obama surfaced again this month when Patrick lost a high-profile battle over resort casinos with Massachusetts Speaker of the House ... Sal DiMasi. You see, Patrick promised to bring "unity" to government but he failed, just like Barack Obama will fail when he is president, which he will never be because he cannot pre-emptively unify things."

http://wonkette.com/372854/deval-patrick-fails-as-governor-so-barack-obama-is-unelectable

(There is more to this than most of you can imagine - do some research.)

mitchell feels that her clout and international reknown surely trumps the guy they have to let on every now and then........(not MY math)..........Craig backed both of the creeps up to very close to the truth and they were afraid......but like I said, msnbc has been taken over by the inmates and a voice from outside the given sway is received with all the pleasure that was butterfly mcqueen's as she came to realize that she might be called upon to actually deliver the baby.........

sturgeone ---------------------------

The " LBs " control what we see and hear!

gordo......what's a LB?

Don't know if you delusional Clintonites have read this, but...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9862.html

hey bib bib........when I earlier remarked over your "rational post" the other day I forgot to point out the rationality and enviable creativity which led your pseudonym: "bye bye billary"........

keep up the good work.........

led TO yer persootonym, as it were......

Who do they get to share a table with Salman Rushdie??

Andrea can't be Butterfly. I made Craig Butterfly when the gang was putting up the Burnett spoof on Gone With The Wind.

it would of necessity be another fish..........we must cast wide the net.........Salmon must have support.

sturgeone ----------------------------

I am reluctant to explain for reasons which would be obvious upon posting an explanation.

When I came across this, so much became clear - most of us see JW's " LBs " everyday.

Sorry to be cryptic, here are some clues:

1) Johnny Depp movie - " What's Eating Gilbert Grape "

2) Vampires

no......wasnt casting mitchell as mcqueen........was referring to their waking to the jarring reality that they might be called upon to actually do what their real job is supposed to be.

bob marley - one love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uteBX4_wxXk

Jack

gordo........what's a LB?

LB= Lead Belly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE9QYkkxyVQ

Jack

sturgeone ---------------------

That's the vampire part.

Another clue: What remains after you eat an apple?

Good night Irene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLOualK5GP0

Bob Marley, No Woman No Cry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg2n039txnk

Jack

gordo..........do I get a secret decoder ring?

sturgeone -------------------

Clue: Golden Fleece

lb = pound

As in
10lb moustache by Man Man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxv0qhAauAk

Jack

The " LBs " are growing in number, but some are shrinking in size.

The Grateful Dead To Donate Band Archive To Uc Santa Cruz

http://www.kbsradio.ca/news/music/87/706364

Jack

This bit of good news from of all places Alabama.

"Senate wisely nixed English-only bills"
http://www.al.com/opinion/press-register/index.ssf?/base/opinion/120920130313330.xml&coll=3

http://www.gomusic.ru/album.aspx?id=27615

Click on "Promise of a Fisherman" by Carlos. I used to crack this up for inspiration. I think it is one of his best solos, almost godly.......

Maybe Gordo is mixed up and he means LF

And as everybody knows

LF= Little Feat

Little Feat - Dixie Chicken
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO3ZMdcL8Pc

Sorry, I thought they would play the whole song. Anyone have it. Carlos at his best....

This used to be a site that discussed the press and its problems.

Here Elizabeth Edwards makes some good points.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/opinion/27edwards.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin#

Jack

President Clinton had six wonderful, packed events in rural Oregon and Portland today. I attended the Portland event. It was great.

Voters in North Bend, Junction City, Albany,Monmouth, McMinville, Oregon City, and Portland;; were able to hear from this wonderful American President.

The Gallup Poll was interesting today with Senator Clinton and Mr.Obama tied at forty seven..

Also Hillary leading McCain by three
Obama tied with McCain..

Did he , OD? Did he???

Hillary leads McCain by 3
Barooock bock bock tied

Hillary leaes McCain by three
Baroooock bock bock tied

Hillary leads McCain by three
Barooock bock bock tied

The article by Elizabeth Edwards was right on the money. I wish it were going to be printed on every front page of the country. I stopped watching Matthews,Olbermann, and Abrams over a month ago and am worried about their rot taking over every other person and brain working there. David Gregory will be the next to succumb if it can't be stopped. I personally think Olbermann has a problem with women. Does anyone know if their ratings are hurting?

Betty..Olberman and the others start out with tiny audienes anyway..

I think KO is in way over his head. He thinks he is Edward R. Murrow. Murrow would detest the likes of Keith Olberman.

Hillary leads McCain by 3
barooock bock bock tied

baroooock bock bock

baroooock bock bock

baroooock bock bock

barooock bock bock

barooooock bock bock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBSWmIr9u-w

Corey, LOL !!!!

While researching the life of Shirley Chisholm for a blog article that I'm writing, I came across a bit of trivia that actually reflects on the current Presidential race. Chisholm is considered one of the best orators of her time even though her parents were very poor. As it turns out, she was not educated in the U.S.

"When Chisholm was three, her parents, desiring a better life for their daughters, sent Shirley and her sisters to Barbados to be reared by their maternal grandmother. ... she received an excellent education in Barbados's British school system. "

Sen. Obama is conceded to be an excellent speaker. He started school in the Philippines and then the balance of his school years outside of the mainland U.S. in the multicultural climate of Hawaii in a private school.

What does it say about the mainland public schools that they not only cannot teach children to speak well, but can barely manage to graduate half of the ones who attend.

What is different about the three systems?

You want a list? I'll give you a list! :)
--Stable, predictably nurturing home life.
--No cars.
--Limited pop media.
--Tradition, history, traditional roots, historical roots.
--High expectations.
--A classical education.
--Competent teachers.
--Lots of love. Lots of grandparents. Lots of good neighbors.
--A less damaging diet.
--Focus on daily achievement
--Concentration on substance over style.
--Importance of critical, insightful thought.
--Closeness to a fragile environment.

Oh, Jamie, it would be interesting comparing people who received most of their k-12 education in the DoD school system with the general population.

I went to a small boarding Eastern prep school. I think that for many of the students there came to the school already having high expectations for themselves. They also had parents who saw the potential in their children and were willing to pay the (extremely high) cost of giving them the best education.

It's unclear to me exactly how he ended up in the private school he went to. Was it basically a grandparent decision?

Clearly they didn't teach me how to write a coherent sentence. I should have written:

I think many of the students came to the school already having high expectations for themselves.

Flatus

He was there on a scholarship. How that scholarship came about doesn't seem to have been discussed. In his book he wrote,

"For my grandparents, my admission into Punahou Academy heralded the start of something grand, an elevation in the family status that they took great pains to let everyone know,"

So it doesn't seem as if whatever testing is required was engineered by them. He was shipped out of the Philippines by his mother, so possibly the stepfather had some connections since Sen. Obama's half sister also attended Punahou. Big empty question mark.

Wendy

Fantasy narrative? What fantasy?

Here are the facts: Due to Clinton's poor position in delegates, and ONLY a 10% win in PA, she will need victories in EACH of the remaining primaries in excess of 70%. Considering that she has only done that once during this process, that is mathematically improbable (unless you are Clinton, who changes the the rules to suit her need every other day. What happened to the pathetic electoral vote theory?) If she loses NC, that required win goes up to almost 80%. I think that fantasy resides in this realm.

Maybe if Clinton ran a decent campaign, she wouldn't find herself in this untenable position, requiring incredulous victories and devious tactics and Zealots who support those tactics at the risk of the party. For the Clintons, there is no party without them.

That's Rich. The Democratic primary structure is fatally flawed. Those flaws were clearly recognized by the Obama Campaign and were gamed to their maximum possible advantage.

In other words, while Mr Obama may become the titular candidate of the Democratic Party, I do not believe he is the candidate desired by greatest number of traditional Democrats and newcomers genuinely making a commitment to the Democratic Party.

(I wish this Blog would not continually log me off after a few minutes of inactivity. I have TypeKey configured so that it should keep me on for two weeks. It's a major aggravation.)

Big Rich

One thing this election has made clear is the rules for the way delegates are assigned need to be changed. The delegates awarded are way out of balance to the actual ballots cast. It has been revealed because of having two strong candidates taking votes in different locations to be horribly undemocratic and in need of revision.

Flatus,

The next time you come in to this blog, put a check in the "Remember personal info" bloc. That in combination with your typekey registration should keep you permanently logged in.

Flatus and Jaimie- While all of this is true, it was the system agreed upon at the beginning of the primary.

It the primary runs the course, it is most likely that Obama will lead in popular and delegates. If the popular vote was going to be the meric, BOTH campaigns would have done things differently.

But I keep coming back to the Clinton campaign. Such high dysfunction which allowed the current situation, requiring her to wish for the self destruction of Obama. There lies the rub. That is the issue that is bubbling up, and causing DRAMA. It is personnel, because that is what is driving Clinton- personnel ambition, not the good of the country or the party.

Let me get this right- people want her after she tried to convince us all that she was some type of war hero by dodging sniper fire. Continued to lie about it. Then Bill Clinton tried to convince us that we were being unfair, trying to convince us that WE were all hosed up. What's up with that? See my paragraph above. It's all about them.

Rich, she told a 'war story'. She was caught. Many people tell 'war stories' and most of us who were there can sort out truth from fiction. It doesn't necessarily mean that we will distance ourselves from the miscreant. Some people over time conflate events.

So far as agreeing to the rules, I think it was implicit in their running. Mrs Clinton thought they would be followed as they traditionally were. I bet she never makes that mistake again.

I use IE so my only glitch is that I have to "refresh" the page to see any new postings.

Today's MTP panel was particularly good. The Russert interview of Dean was really flat. Dean came across as totally ineffectual insisting on "rules" without actually saying what the rules were and who had the ability to waive, modify or alter.

glad to see sheila jackson lee on Stephanop for Sen. Clinton today........

Sturg, I hate it when three panel shows with decent possibilities overlap. I'll have to use a secondary DVR.

Jamie, do you get the 'Remember personal info?' check box after each post? I do, so either it's not sticky or it is being blocked somewhere in my network.

Rich, you're a joke. You characterize Hillary as wanting to be a war hero. You really think people here are stupid enough to accept your blighted comments? Go ahead amd make them for the Obamniacs. Clinton supporters are playing with more marbles than you, obviously.Yeah, don't count Florida. And the voters were responsible for that one and Obama didn't have his name on the ballot. You don't want Florida because they would crush Obama and wil vote for McCain if they are excluded.

Far more important than sniper fire are the very mentors and friends Obama established and the fiction he now paints to try and bambooozle us. While Hillary was visiting the troops she had pushed to protect Bosnia, Obama was getting help from Rezko./Auchi and hanging out with Avyers and Khaldi fund raisers while listenng to sermons by Wright. I would take Hillary's fictional sniper fire over the pathetic cover-up of what Obama was really up to at the time. Obviously you are prone to the Kool Aid. Don't get me started on the litany of lies like how Obama was never informed about the Kyl Bill vote or that he actually supported the Amnesty Bill compromise and did not in fact, try to sink it with his own Bill. The list is long and damning.

So go ahead and beat that sniper fire. Obama will be getting far more sniper fire should foolish Democracts nominate him. Hillary doesn't need to "wish" Obama keep shooting himself in the foot, he has shown himself to be able to do that on a weekly basis. Wright, Meeks, Lee, Rezko, Auchi, Michelle, Ayers ISM, McPeak, Power, Rice, Malley, Farrakhan, Zbig, Rice, Davis.....it goes on and on and on and completely Obama's brilliant creation covered up nicely by the MSM that supports him.

Good luck with that.

yep.....if i watch the 2nd half of Stephanoop I miss Schieffer....wind up back-and-forthing it around the commercials usually.......

I see it every time, but I only had to click it once. It then announced that the site required sharing my email. I clicked yes.

Since then all is well in wonderland.

Sharing email meant Craig and CQ not the world.

Yes, I understand that and I do allow the sharing. Interesting (and frustrating), although on a scale of things that are important in this world, it undoubtedly rates a zero.

Peeve Department: "Playing the Race Card." Cant some creative mind in some bleak little cubicle somewhere come up with another way of saying that?
IT AINT A CARD GAME.

aahhhh, that feels better.

West Coast has an advantage is that only Reliable Sources and Sunday Morning totally overlap so I have to do some switching.

It is interesting to see today's CNN poll as a reflection of just how divided the electorate (or at least those paying attention) really are. Usually their questions are weighted for obvious answers from their mostly liberal viewers. Today's is a tossup. Should Sen. Obama debate Sen. Clinton in NC. So far 50/50

http://www.cnn.com/

At my District Convention yesterday we elected a good friend of mine as one of our Hillary National Convention Delegates. This woman is 83, spry, and sharp as a tack. She often writes great letters-to-the-editors that get published in the DSM Register.

An interesting strategy was used by the Clinton campaign to slow Obama's momentum in the state yesterday at the District Conventions. For instance, at my convention we determined we would need all the Edwards delegates to gain a delegate to National, but the Obama group would only need a few of the Edward's supporters to gain a delegate so we sent some Hillary Dist. delegates to the Edwards group to make them viable. Edwards got the National Delegate, Hillary didn't lose any, and Obama did not gain any. My District totals were as followed: Clinton 2, Edwards 1, Obama 3. I think Obama got the alternate, too.

All the District Convention totals can be found on the Iowa Democratic Party website. The strategy is discussed in today's DSM Register:

Obama gets about half of districts' delegates

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080427/NEWS09/804270336/1001/NEWS

One of our Obama National Delegates, who is a very good friend of mine, told me yesterday that she saw one of John Edwards' top campaign guys with Hillary at her rally after her big win In Pennsylvania. This friend was watching the coverage on C-Span and unfortunately couldn't remember the guys name. Has anyone else heard of John Edwards top staffers working for Hillary?

Zoey,

Does Iowa report its popular vote totals in addition to the delegate percentages?

Am watching Face the Nation. Does anyone else think David Axelrod looks like Adolph Hitler?

Charlie Chaplin also looked like Adolph Hitler.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGfLAtiUi1A

Jamie,
No, we do not report popular vote totals. That is not our system. We only report non-binding delegate totals unitl we get the National Delegates elected. They are still not bound to a candidate but have no way to officially switch affilitation until they get to National (just like the rest of the regular National Delegates from other states' contests).

come to think of it, Moe Howard looked a lot like hitler......

Finally, Obama is doing what I think he should do. He's ignoring Clinton. Why even get into these parlor games with this fool? She can't catch him in delegates and the Democratic Party won't dare to take the nomination away from an African American man. So this is a charade. He can lose Indiana and win North Carolina. He can win Oregon and lose West Virginia. It doesn't matter. It's over Clintonites.

Interesting article on branding from Radar's May/June mag on Ladies in Waiting...I have searched the online mag site and cannot find a link to this particular fresh link. So...I am going to re-type -- sorry for the length of this post. Just a fun read.

By Dale Hrabi

When her husband's campaign is all about freshness and change, why is Michelle Obama styling herself like the the second coming of Jacqueline Kennedy?There's the rigid Camelot hairdo. The been-there-done-that -pearls. The suspiciously familar dresses, like the sleveless shift Michelle chose for her recent Newsweek cover, a near-replica of on Jackie wore to visit Jaipur, India in 1962.
Though Kennedy's ladylike chic (itself a tactic to neutralize her intelligent edge) has inspired many a campaign wife. Obama's over mimicry is "totally unprecedented," says Carl Sferrazza Anthony, who's authored 10 books on various first ladies. The Obama campaign has denied any calculation -- perhaps forgetting that Barack himself dubbed Michell "Jackie O from the 'hood' last August -- but it seems obvious they're using Kennedy's iconic style to underline their candidate's dignity and cross-racial appeal. "It's probably a conscious strategy," noted political consultant Sherry Maysonave.
But how would Michelle have affected her husband's chances if she'd chosen another, loess predictable first lady to shamelessly rip off?

Yeah roger that Maxtrue ( I will save the personal attack, but assume that you come by it naturally....). I forget all of the vetted baggage that now magically doesn't exist for the Clintons. Koolaid? Methinks that she should have run a better campaign. How about that? Or maybe that's Obama's fault too. Yeah. Can she even afford to stay in the race. Got debt?

Count Florida. She is still behind. Continue the race. If she ends up on the wrong side of that number, will that settle it? I doubt it, because it's all about BS. Keep focusing on the personalities. Amazing if America accepted Obama with his baggage over Clinton with theirs. Joke? Ask Monica Lewinsky. Of course there is more- it is so well vetted though. Clinton's campaign team is so gooned up that they didn't even know not to attack Obama on Ayres, because President Clinton commuted sentences for two Weathermen.

And as a fellow Annapolis graduate, I will vote for McCAIN before Clinton.

And as an Indiana resident, I still have a say, and my absentee vote has been sent in.

Good luck with that.

Axelrod looks like an 'old' porn star of the 1970's.

No matter what BIG RICH, BHO also doesn't have enough delegates to win the nomination either. I am glad you vote, but you are only one vote and this is going to convention whether Obamaniacs likes it or not.

As for debt, it is the American way and it sure didn't stop JMc from getting the nod. With all of the money BHO is spending per vote, you would think he could get the nomination by now.

BBB

If your response was because I asked Zooey about the vote count in Iowa, my question had nothing to do with Clinton.

My curiosity was because having dealt with the caucus system for the first time having resettled from a primary system state. Watching it up close, I can see how devoted people who have always had a caucus are to the system, but as an outsider I see it as horribly undemocratic in a way that really disenfranchises the electorate.

This election because of its almost 50/50 divisiveness really puts a spotlight on the methods we use to do elections.

tsk tsk tsk

"A few months after receiving his final payment from EKI, Obama sent a request on state Senate letterhead urging Illinois officials to provide a $50,000 tourism promotion grant to another Blackwell company, Killerspin...With support from Obama, other state officials and an Obama aide who went to work part time for Killerspin, the company eventually obtained $320,000 in state grants between 2002 and 2004"

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-killerspin27apr27,1,4475139.story?track=rss

Am watching Face the Nation. Does anyone else think David Axelrod looks like Adolph Hitler?

Posted by: GORDO

The winner of today's Godwin prize
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Blonde

Is this the Radar Magazine you are talking about?

http://www.radarmagazine.com/

I've never seen it before and It is just loaded with edgy articles. There is a good one about Christ Matthews down on the right.

Blonde wino- it starts with one vote. Glad to see that you embrace debt- so much for the economy. We will run up the deficit, and that will make you happy.

BHO does not have the required number of delegates. You are correct. HRC doesn't have the required number of delegates either, and is behind.

Yes, Jamie...but the article is not posted and you know how many typos I make, but wanted trail mix gang to read it...yep, the Matthews video/article is pretty good.

"Axelrod looks like an 'old' porn star of the 1970's."

Blonde,

Funny. I only actually saw one of those back then, but you could be right. There is a distinct sleeze factor at work there. Thinking of many of the campaign managers I've known, it may be a professional requirement.

This could be a "Boys from Brazil" scenario. Axelrod is a Hitler clone - he is using Obama as a front man in an attempt to conquer the world. Another reason to vote for Hillary.

Actually, BR, I operate debt free, but when I look at my fellow Americans and most definitely the Bush White House...I see debt.

BR, my house is paid for, my husband and I have car's that are paid for. I pay my taxes. I pay-off my credit cards each month. So, I believe that makes me debt free. Be careful...my finances, like my math are excellent.

Wendy...thanks for the link...Jamie I am going to scan the article from Radar into a PDF format and email to you. The visuals are good. : ) And Axelrod has that look Burt Reynolds was going for in Bogey Nights.

"This election because of its almost 50/50 divisiveness really puts a spotlight on the methods we use to do elections."-Jamie 11:05

Jamie,
As I mentioned yesterday in a comment of a similar theme, Many of the issues Clinton and her supporters are criticizing would not be any problem if she was winning. Same goes for debating.
Sure we need to tweak the process, but don't we (DNC) that after each major cycle! Besides, IF, the DNC outlawed caucuses and WA decided to follow State law and hold one. What would the DNC do, refuse to seat our delegation? Yeah right!

Congratulations on being debt free. You obviously find that a better way to be, so then why don't you hold the same standard for a campaign? Should it not be efficient and well run? Make sure that you max out your contribution to HRC.

Since your math is correct, then you will realize that Obama requires LESS superdelegates to get to the magic number than Clinton. You will also realize that 70% wins are required in the remainng contests. But I suspect that math is not the issue.

Careful G-man, I'll have to drag out my inter-galactic tractor beam and zap you.

Gordo, that's really perceptive. Calling a Jew a Hitler clone.

BR...like I said, it is almost un-American of me to be debt free....and you need to read the LA Times article that Wendy just posted. Your guy gets his money for favors...and his credit was so poor in 2000 that
In his book "The Audacity of Hope," Obama tells how his finances had deteriorated to such a point that his credit card was initially rejected when he tried to rent a car at the 2000 Democratic convention in Los Angeles. He said he had originally planned to dedicate that summer "to catching up on work at the law practice that I'd left unattended during the campaign (a neglect that had left me more or less broke)."

No matter what, your guy doesn't have enough delegates no matter how you add it up.

Blonde wino,

Tommy Bolin
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XkevEDbq92I

You owe me :-)

Thank you, Frank. How much?

Or better yet, Frank...I'm indebted to you! (hey, BR, I have some debt now)

Blonde,
Some green chili?
Tell you what, you like being debt free and so do I, so it's on the house.

Actually WA wants to have a primary. The Republicans let it count for half this time around. The Democratic party insisted on caucus only.

I would like to see the caucus states use the half/half method. That way they wouldn't have to give up their beloved money raising, confrontation, intimidation and insider trading system while still allowing folks that just want to cast a vote to do so.

And my response stands. Neither does HRC. And he needs less to get to the number.

Watching Last Word and just to make Craig smile: Claire McCaskill is packing up the kittens for the trip to the river.

BR...you are very correct, but no winner yet.

Hey, that Tommy Bolin is pretty good!

Frank...if you stop by, I have some in the freezer (medium hot, roasted)

Jamie...sent you the article...love your last post.

Rich got me thinking more about the sniper thing. Trying to put it in context, I think this is how retired military people generally feel:

--Claiming decorations one did not earn is a capital offense.
--Likewise, falsely claiming membership in some type of elite organization such as SEALs or Special Forces is despicable.
--Claiming assignment in a wartime command when you never left the States is likewise unforgivable.
--Claiming ranks you never achieved is rotten.

I think that takes care of the biggies.

Personally, I would add:
--Knowingly stating someone had committed one of the above offenses when you know that it is untrue shows the perpetrator to be morally bankrupt.

Maybe I should have said puppies. Make her blond and there does seem to be a certain resemblance

http://www.rena4.com/lcdvill.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EucdwAz5uyo&feature=related

Jamie...

Cruella McCaskill : ) very fitting

Blonde wino,

did you see my post yesterday reguarding the spelling of Chile/chili? I said you could make a great chili using Green Chiles. That is the way I have always heard and seen it used.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Doots, tastes best on a cold winter day in Chile.

Yes, I did and as always you make more sense than me...everyone here uses chile and they corrected me when I used chili. I have to admit when I lived in Colorado, the green chili was made with pork...it is prepared differently here and much more to my liking. Fresher. Some trivia...I have a hanging ristra and underneath it I usually get a few volunteer plants from the broken pods.

How are you surviving the food price increase at the store?

Flatus...let's see now, Chile is in the southern Hemisphere so they are 'heading' into winter.

I'm hungry...be back later.

I heard they served chilly chile chili in Chile.

Tex/Mex food and New Mexican food are pretty different. In Texas we like our Mexican food more of a brown color. It seems to me that New Mexican food has more green in it and is probably somewhat spicier than Tex/Mex. There are somethings like in New Mexico like Hatch Chiles. Over in California the Mexican food, it seems to me, is based more on maracosa del mar (sea food) flavors and not as desert inspired. I haven't eaten enough Mexican food from Colorado to judge them yet. I hope to correct that in the future. Arizona's Mexican food seemed to me to be more about la especias rojas

I was in the grocery store just yesterday but I was not shocked by what I saw. I did not buy a lot mostly just dry dog food for my dogs (not me , lol ) I eat out a lot because my wife works about 10 to 16 hrs a day nearly 7 days a week and is gone mostly at meal time every day.

yo soy Horsedooty!

One more cow:

http://www.mentalfloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/Happy_Cow_Large.jpg

Flatus -----------------

I mean a REAL clone as in "The Boys from Brazil".

Then there is my mascot ... one more "coo"

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/jessied44/cow.gifhttp://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/jessied44/cow.gif

Dooty,

I haven't had Tex, but you are right about CA and NM. My step grandmother came from NM and made the most wonderful hot, spicy concoctions. You got hungry just getting to the driveway of the house, I do favor the sea based food of CA and the Baja

You know, I've been thinking about Craig's idea of Hillary asking McCain to debate. Why not? If Obama is going to play "chicken" or "ostrich" (read head in the sand here), then she can make that point effectively by saying "my democratic opponent has no interest in offering a debate for the good people of Indiana and North Carolina, but I can still lay out my positions in a give and take with the Republican opponent. I think it would make Obama appear... shall we say, "bitter"?

I wonder if fearless leader made it intact through last night's dinner?

My "coo" on photobucket disappeared. It's okay, he's on my blog on the right

http://jdurward.blogspot.com

Flautus- That is correct. More importantly, it was a voluntary lie to get advantage. If she would not have prefabricated, it would not even be an issue.

For those of us that wear the cloth of our nation, who preserve this process that we debate here, it is injurous- far beyond who we support in this primary. And more importantly, it cheapens what we do to protect our national interests abroad. And in this case, shows the true depth of the real respect that she has for the real danger that our soldiers and sailors face on a daily basis. So when statements are made to pander, i.e. ":obliterate" to "sound good", it stands that that theme of little respect continues. And we, the people, unfortunately reinforce it when we do not hold accountable.

a house prefabricated against itself cannot stand.

by the way......the fact that someone says they will obliterate any country which initiates a Nuclear Attack is ok with me......as it was ok with our entire country from 1950 or so until the wall came down in berlin......

"Senator Clinton today is proud to announce that General Henry Hugh Shelton has endorsed her to be the Nation’s next Commander-in-Chief.

One of our nation’s top military figures, General Shelton served two terms as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Presidents Clinton and George W. Bush.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=6280

Senator Clinton today is proud to announce the endorsement of two distinguished, retired admirals, Vice Admiral Donald C. Arthur and Rear Admiral Stuart F. Platt. They join an eminent group of 30 retired admirals and generals who have endorsed Senator Clinton to be our nation’s next Commander-in-Chief. "

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=6334

Still Tied

http://www.gallup.com/poll/106828/Gallup-Daily-Clinton-Obama-Remain-Tied-47.aspx

v

He ante'd up the Race Chip.

He put some cheese onto the Race Trap.

He shifted into Race Gear.

He fried the Race Potato.

He flipped the Race Coin.

He's punched the Race Button on the remote.

He's clicked on Race.com

nope....those dont work.........back to the Race Course.....

Jamie,
MTP still showed the poll where Obama was 8 points ahead.They mentioned the gallup pole but on the screen they showed another pole showing BO's Advantage.When BO is ahead in the Gallup then they show it
Ruth

oops poll poll

Ruth,

Yes I know. MSNBC does the same thing. If the news is bad for Sen. Obama even with a national poll known for accuracy, they scrounge around until they can find a poll they can twist and prod until it comes out in his favor.

If a poll comes out showing BO ahead even if it is one they know was bought and paid for by the campaign, it gets heralded to the skies every 15 minutes with the sound of trumpets and angel choruses

I have stopped watching Russet but turned it on today because I wanted to see what Dean had to say.The show was much fairer today so I watched all of it Normallt I turn it off when Russet starts to rub his hands together and grins like a C cat
Ruth

Stephonopolis had a good show today too.It wasn't pro Hillary but they weren't drinking the BO Kool-ade either

"If a poll comes out showing BO ahead even if it is one they know was bought and paid for by the campaign."

Jamie,

Curiously, in your opinion, If the NYT were to commission the Gallup org. to do a poll on a specific issue, and Fox News paid Gallup to do the same on the exact same issue, do you think there would be different results?

Quack, quack.

The Faux talking head panel claims HRC is a better candidate...BHO has run a better campaign. "Same as it was, same as it ever was."

http://www.sing365.com/music/Lyric.nsf/Once-in-a-Lifetime-lyrics-Talking-Heads/2A7F93C1113DCE1A482568B0002D6BB7

I see Flatus and some of the others on this blog are having similar problems to mine on posting.I find the only way I can keep up is by occasionally posting one letter.It doesn't take up much space either
Ruth

Doots...your post about dog food reminded me about hearing how many humans consume cat and dog food because it is so much cheaper than human food. Thanks for clarifying your purchase!

http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=6517

Ruth...slow posting today...I am having problems, too.

" LBs "

painter......to put it in perspective, over the course of a year, say, they might take up about the same amount of space as maybe 1/5 of a typical Maxtrue post.......not so bad, eh?

gordo........what's a LB?

My weekly aol poll has been consistantly showing Hillary ahead.This week she is averaging 27% ahead.In some stayes she is over 30 points ahead.
Indiana 52%--48
Illinois 52%--49%
N.Carolina 61%--39% 5964 voting
Mo. 64%--36% 2147 voting
Oregon 58%--42% 1908 voting
Kentucky 71%--29% 1767 voting
Fla. 71%--29% 2008 voting

Overall vote
Hillary 101,210
Barrack 61,585

She is ahead in every state.

In the gallup poll and some others they only sample about 1900
Ruth

sturg

16 ounces

Blonde......is that how much blood vampires keep on hand or something? He said it had something to do with vampires......

sturgeone ------------------

In addition to the clues upthread: Argonaut

Rezdog

I'm not talking about the name polls. There are some polls that you know their methodology leans towards Obama (i.e. Zogby). There are others than lean toward Clinton (i.e. Survey). There are others that are so far out on a limb that they could be used for paper towels and not be missed (i.e. PPP)

Zogby usually comes out with an accurate one just before the election. Survey has been most reliable throughout. It's just a matter of really studying them over a period of time.

What I'm talking about with MSNBC is that you can have four polls come out on one day with three of them favoring Clinton and they will use the one that favors OBama or they will average them all together totally ignoring any trend line. It is dishonest because it creates a false image in the public's mind.

i opt for the bottle in front of me.......

I have heard of a pound of flesh...16 ounces of liberal blood?

Chillin' here.

Did Gordo ever tell us what LBs are or are will still taking space ship imput from symbols in Gilbert Grape?

Jamie,

Thanks for the clarification.

Ruth

AOL isn't dependable. It skews elderly. You are better off with the collection of polls at Real Clear, but don't believe the average at the top. It's an inaccurage merger of different polls with different methodologies. Just watch the trends of changes in the individual polls
down below

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/

here are some more
Kansas 60--40 748
Arizona 62--38 2951
Cal. 60--40 17,522
Iowa 58--42 1103
Kansas 60--40 748
Hawaii 52---48 581
D.C. 51---49 849
N.Mex. 57--43 843
S.Car. 63---37 1773
Wisc. %8--42 1659

Is it possible that the national polls we see on tv are influencing the voters
Ruth

Blonde wino -----------------

Remember? I once used the "wino" part of your name as a clue.

I want my secret decoder ring or I aint playing........

Sorry, Gordo, alcohol blackout.

I know aol has older voters but earlier in campaign they were much closer and Obama was ahead in half the states and always in Illinois, D.C. and Hawaii.Some weeks he won the poll.This could be a shift.Also people tend to look at polls and vote that way because they want to back the leader.
Ruth

sturg...how would you like to be part of the clue and not get it? I swear I was drinking that night.

sturg...how would you like to be part of the clue and not get it?

---blonde W.

Story of my life............

Blonde,
Yeah it makes me nervous when Bil Kristol suddenly is Hillary's biggest fan.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BUgKb-5u6v4

Jamie
I agree about MSNBC They never show the latest poll if Hillary is ahead.They keep showing any poll no matter how old that shows BO ahead.That's why i watch Fox because They are "more fair and balanced" when it comes to Hillary and Barrack. even tho they will bash them both against McCain.They had someone on this morning that had a good argument showing that Hillary can beat Obama.Not like the other networks that say there will be a riot if BO doesn't get it..Even Dean and Donna Brazille said the candidate who can win in Nov will be chosen by the SD's

frank......then mission accomplished by Wm "the bloody" kristol

Sturgeone- Your name closely resembles the STURGEON Class fast attack nuclear submarine that helped win the Cold War. And of course, the fish.

Any action taken, must consider the national interest. Mutual destruction was the case with the USSR. That argument does not exist wiith Iran. The Neo-Cons, which got us into the current debacle failed to make that consideration.

Before we promise to do anything, an evaluation of blood and treasure should be considered in realtionship to the national interest. And most importantly, there should be no means/ends mismatch- which we currently have in Iraq, with no defined end point- just a professed assertion by the current administration that the threat against us is being contained there. But that is questionable. But I digress- Iran is a nation state and AQ is an amorphous franchise entity.

We have the capability to obliterate Iran now. We have tangential evidence that at least the Kuds forces are thwarting our efforts to stabilize Iraq. But we do not attack Iran now, because it is not in the national interest.

Remeber that the successful deterrence of the Cold War involved a diplomatic component as well as an economic component. In your plan for obiteration, ensure that you use all of the instruments of national power. Talk tough, but think first.

mr kristol (stroking his imaginary goatee).......hmmm, how can I best drive these goofy democrats away from Hillary, Scourge of the GOP.......I know.......I'll pretend to support her.

after all, devious is no stranger to mr kristol now is it?

Frank

If only Kristol could move like that...and I think he said it to piss-off Chris Wallace.

Blonde wino,

I used to have a girl friend that maybe 35 years ago had a German Shepard that was real old when I was hanging around. She used to feed the dog Alpo that she heated on the stove to make it taste better (so she said). I never tried it but it did smell like beef stew. I could see how the elderly might try it. There is really not anything in the dog food that would hurt you health wise. I used to tease the wife when we were at the store that we should start trying a few cans now and then just to prepare for our old age. We never have followed up on it thou.

yo soy Horsedooty!

I am going to go outside and watch our "one more cow'
He's been pacing the fence line.Probably trying to find a way to escape.If he does it will be bye bye cow cause my days of chasing cows is over.We are the only ones with a fence so he can run a long way.Some years ago 3 escaped and my husband had to walk them over 3 miles thru the muddy fields.Glad I was at work or I would have had to be out there too lol.
Ruth

Doots

I would imagine that a can of cat food tuna flavor gets consumed like human tuna. I mean one has a cat on the label, a chicken (of the sea) mermaid, bumble bee....could be confusing.

BIG RICH.......your name closely resembles those fortunates who are most helped by bush's tax cuts.....and of course the country music duo from Nashville.........

Ruth...sounds like you need a tractor beam.

Big & Rich! Jalapeno! WHOO!!! Speaking of one more cow....a woman at work told me that she was afraid of cows. LOL!

Painter

Many, many moons ago I was down in Baja on a friend's rancho when the cows next rancho over decided to take a walk through our fence to munch on the spring alfalfa. As luck would have it, I was alone in the wee hours of the morning with only a kimono and boots (rattlesnake protection) trying to convince a very large animal that it really wanted to be elsewhere.

Cows are not real easy to convince when alfalfa is involved.

Once the company returned I spent several hours in kimono, boots, and heavy gloves helping to repair fence.

"obliterate" does not imply "mutual" destruction......and I truly think that whomever is president will overwhelmingly reply to a nuclear strike from Iran to Israel.......perhaps they will "dismantle" iran or "disassemble" Iran or even "moidalize 'em" but the end result will have been the same I suspect by way of intuition.........

Jamie...that is quite a visual. : )

My 30s were interesting. : )

Sturg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon%27s_law

Maybe BIG RICH needs a tractor beam.

you cant tuna fish unless you know the scales........

Sturg...you also need "do re mi"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Re_Mi_%28Woody_Guthrie_song%29

or.....

Dont use those pliers........hand me the fish.

variations on sturgeone's law......still a work in progress......look for it in years to come.......it will break out all over and I'll be all swole up with pride.

Sturg...the law is closely related to the Pareto Principle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

I'm watching Hillary on Ballot Bowl. A while back they sent these emails out to the world asking for suggestions on what she should do. It seems they took my advice (ignore the new manager and a few hundred thousand with the same suggestion)

Microphones have been invented, stop screeching. :-)

Have a good afternoon...check those labels b4 buying canned tuna.

Before I go...great story from the border...what good is a fence when you can travel under the bridge to cross into the US?

http://www.lcsun-news.com/news/ci_9012337

on Cspan 2 is David Goodman (brother of Amy Goodman) with his book.........STAND UP TO THE MADNESS......

media and image manipulation

standing up to the madness

by Amy and David Goodman.....

Accidentially clicked greta van Susteran web and she has some pics of last nights correspondence dinner. There at the bottom is Laura Ingraham wearing a Hillary 2008 button..

There was a young guy - a blogger - who was at the dinner. Is this guy famous or something? Why did a blogger get invited? Also saw him on C Span last night.

Julie

Blonde wino...

Avoid canned tuna! Too much mercury...not only because of polluted waters, but also because it's a predator and eats many mercury-laden smaller fish.

Julie,

I saw him as well. He is certainly unique. He goes by "Perez Hilton"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perez_Hilton

Gossipy/Snarky site for the youngsters into celebs of all kinds.

The article on U of M's commencement yesterday. Includes parts of Bob Woodruff's speech. Including a shot at Ted Koppel.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080427/NEWS06/804270585

I attended an event at Portland State University featuring Ambassador Joe Wilson. He spoke on behalf of Hillary Cllinton.

It was a very interesting event, well worth the drive to Portland.

Joe's a mensch.

OD:
I imagine he would be very interesting to listen to. He has had several articles on Huff Po.. He has stated that he had never ever heard of Obama before he ran for president.. Chicago Sun times Evelyn ? has run an article on Rezko trial. She said that Gov Blagovich (sp) was actually the one that the chicago bunch was to put up for pres. But he got caught out in Rezko mess early.
So Obama was put up instead..

Have always thought his wife got a raw deal out of that leaking her name to blacken Joe's..

Julie

one time I bolted campus from the military school I went to and walked to the foot of the ashley river bridge to get a coke......while I was standing there at limehouse's service station Otis Redding's tour bus pulled up and everyone got off for cokes and stuff.....otis was a big guy......anyway I didnt have anything for him to sign so he happily signed the inside of my military hat..........

Julie..That is interesting about Governor B. I hadn't heard that before.

After about an hour and a half the event ended..free pizza time. He said he would continue to answer questions until he had to leave for University of Oregon.

Just about everyone stayed. He was very gracious to everyone.

Jamie Rubin is also a Hillary speaker. In fact imho he should be the official Hillary spokesman. He is an extremely intelligent man. And he usually wins the discussion with whomever he is conversing.

Joe Wilson has been a very solid Hillary supporter.

Julie

Rev. Wright about to address NAACP on CNN

oh boy.......whoever opened up the Rev Wright controversy is currently reaping the whirlwind...........strong stuff........

I've never been much on autographs. Getting t-shirts signed. Does anybody here have any signed t-shirts?

Although , if I ever met John Edwards , I might ask him to sign my hair brush.

man, this cat is good...........

Corey

Only one - an "Attack The Messenger". It was Craig's gift to the group that met up in Las Vegas.

Today I read that over 100 Billion dollars in taxpayer money has been wasted on contracts in Iraq that have not been completed for reasons like poor performance by contractors. Last week I read that the V.A. is lying about the actual rate of suiced in Iraqi vets. I pray the Rev. Wright interview Friday night puts that issue to rest because we in America obviously have bigger fish to fry!

blackwater in trouble in san diego:

http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=5411

dont forget television "military advisors" who are bound to the pentagon........

Today I read that over 100 Billion dollars in taxpayer money has been wasted on contracts in Iraq that have not been completed for reasons like poor performance by contractors. Last week I read that the V.A. is lying about the actual rate of suicide in Iraqi vets. I pray the Rev. Wright interview Friday night puts that issue to rest because we in America obviously have bigger fish to fry!

andersting,

I saw some of your comments from the other day. Glad to see you decided to stay.

I haven't seen the Moyers' interview with Rev. Wright, but just watched and listened to his address to the Detroit NAACP, which was fiery, educational, and rational from a passionate speaker.

It was also interesting to hear the Reverend, who introduced him, give a strong introduction, which if nothing else, showed that Rev. Wright has earned the right to criticize our country much more than those at the highest level of the current administration.

I just watched most of the Rev Wrights speech and I am very impressed with his oratory skills. I liked it.

yo soy Horsedooty!

cnn just kicked cable news ass.........

WRight gave a very powerful speech, but I wouldn't expect anything less from him. He didn't become a major minister in his field without being able to deliver.

Lou Dobbs - Republicans know they can take Obama down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOeDQ-gWseQ

uh......did he maybe mean Charlic Rose?

SENATOR BARACK OBAMA IS FINISHED

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECMtqAEoTKk&feature=related

Barack Obama Jeremiah wright Garlic noses nose Klan kkk race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv0M8TqN6g8

gordo......do LB's have garlic noses?

Obama: NEW Rev. Wright Anti-Jew, Anti-Italian, Anti-Israel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY1hytzjfAA&feature=related

sturgeone ------------------

No - does not fit the profile (both ways).

a cow is worth 100 goats.

ok.........100 really skinny goats.....

I am going to be brutally honest: I don't believe the Reverend Wright speech on CNN is helpful to Obama. I believe the people on this blog are more open to Wright's message (whether it be the interview on Moyers or the CNN speech) and his unique style and methodolgy for delivering said message than much of the mainstream public. I think there are many who will not find his impersonations of white people particularly amusting.

Well maybe not 100

http://www.sterlingtimes.co.uk/bill_goats_gruff.htm

youre being brutally honest about an opinion........

Yes, it's my opinion. My point is that most of the people on this blog are very well educated and open to varied ideas, theologies, philosophies etc. I don't believe that Wright's mocking of his critics is going to play well in the mainstream public or in a general election. Listen, I get what Wright is saying. I got it in the Moyers interview. I am trying to look at this from a political analysis perspective and personally, I don't think the reaction is going to be as positive as Roland and Soledad think its going to be.

Obama doesn't need this distraction right now and Democrats don't need this in terms of the general if he is the nominee. Enough. We need to move on. I'm begging. And I don't know what Soledad has been smoking because talking about his MORE isn't helpful.

Obama doesn't need this distraction right now and Democrats don't need this in terms of the general if he is the nominee. Enough. We need to move on. I'm begging. And I don't know what Soledad has been smoking because interrupting the guest is not appropriate.

Sorry for the double post. Didn't see that it had gone through so typed it again!

I was laughing at several of the dialects, but then I have a love of language and the way people use it.

Jamie: Yes, of course. I love language as well. (AIthought I don't have the talent for it that you do!) I just believe that the commentators on CNN tonight are deluded if they think that it is going to play as well as they think its going to. Put a fork in me, I'm done. I just want to be done with this and now I feel like this could be another full week of the news cycle. UGH. OY.

Pan-Terrorist Arab Muslim Group Brags About Sponsoring Rev. Wright Speech

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/

I thought Wright was funny especially when he imitated the Kennedy's and Lyndon Johnson.People have to lighten up and quit getting offended at every word.I am Polish and have been hearing Polish jokes all my life.I just laugh at them.Every word a person says is parsed and diagnosed,looking for hidden meanings.There is too much emphasis on being politically correct.I won't vote for Obama but it won't be because of Reverand Wright.
Ruth

I am more concerned about his association with Rezko and some of the other criminal types.And he reminds me too much of bush the way he struts and the way he comes across in his demeanor to Hillary."You're likeable enough Hillary" as he looks down his nose.He has an air about him that looks like he just can't wait to get this campaign over with so he doesn't have to lower himself to mingle with the lower class any longer than he has to.
Ruth

On WGN news tonight they said Hillary and Obama are tied in Indiana

r

The polls that showed them tied also has a very large number in high twenties that are undecideds. The undecided's have been breaking for Hillary in last 4 states that have voted.

Julie

Gordo,

That was an very good article from nwanews.

Julie

the whites from the south vote rep because of their hatrid for the dems because they championed the AA's plight.Before that the south was always democratic.And Obama won't get the southern vote anyway.Also the white gun owners and farmers vote republican.And Obama will not get their vote either.So where is your Argument that Obama will be the better candidate.He has not been able to win in the big states and new polls show Hillary ahead of McCain.If Obama cant beat Hillary in those states how can he beat McCain

When I saw President Clinton speak yesterday, one of the most important points he made was that we must deal with the great divide between rural and urban communities.

This has really struck a chord in Oregon since this state, like many others, is characterized by this divide.

Whoever the next President is needs to work to bridge this divide.

Before Obama came on the scene - Bill and Hillary got a large block of the colored vote. In fact Hillary won the black vote in Iowa.. But as soon as they saw one of their own with a possibility of winning. The went to him. Clyburn has helped. However, if Hillary won the nomination, the ones that voted for them before would again, I believe. They know the good that Bill and Hillary did for them in 90's.

Julie

The Next McGovern?

Obama may still get the nomination, but his loss tonight (PA) deals a harsh blow to his electibility arguments.

http://tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=ec466d61-a900-414c-8daf-16ff27
ccf85c

Craig, what a good CQ video. 41's "Read my lips" brings to mind all of the hollow promises and rhetoric I've heard from candidates over the millenia like Pataki in NY saying he was going to get the budget in ON TIME. Never happened.

They talk. They make promises. Yadda, yadda. They even promise to change or impact things they have no control over.

Not much difference in this campaign, IMHO, so far.

tt

Painter..I have been surprised at the large number of loyal Democrats who say they will not vote for Obama.

The number 1 reason they give to me is the attack on the legacy of the Clinton presidency, a singular disrespect for what were very good years.

We see this often from a couple of nutballs on this site.

There is nothing we can do or say here that will make any difference but one of us will be able to say "you were wrong".Will have to wait until Nov.No sense being nasty to each other.I'm just hoping it will be me lol
Ruth

Here is the link for "The Next McGovern?"

http://tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=ec466d61-a900-414c-8daf-16ff27ccf85c

Wow! White House Correspondents’ Dinner. It's that time again already?

Looking forward to your report, Craig.

tt

Thanks Julie and OD for the support.
Ruth

Good night all Time for bed
Ruth

Ruth

This election season has shown a great deal of passionate loyalty to a persons own canidate. (sp). I use to just let politics roll by, you know which democrat., seems like a lot of people have had the same fever this year.

OD - I envy you being in Oregon. I live in Kansas , a repub state. Neither Bill, Hillary or BO have been here.
Wish I could be there to sign hold with you.
Julie

OD

Hillary won every single rural county in Missouri. She lost it however, due to St Louis with large black vote and eastern part of Kansas CIty with large black vote.
The rural counties like Pa and Ohio also went for Hillary. So rural and suburban have voted differently.

Julie

Dutch press falling over Obama not accepting the offer to debate HRC, sans moderators..
They ask themsleves...How is he going to reach the undecideds if he doesn´t want to debate... They say HRC shoud stress this and win Indiana, seen as India is dubbed the tiebreaker by BO

Gordo, nice posts...thanx

OD, How are you holding up. Praying that you can keep on going.

Hillary....our Nominee!

Julie..It is fun working on the campaign here. This week I'll telephone at headquarters each day and do a little sign holding.. Wish you could be there.

Ohh Sorry

Good Morning all. Hearthy greeting from Amsterdam...

How is my girl HRC doing in the US?

Hearing that fat headed Howard Dean is making a spin again. Now, electability is the word... Well, welcome to HRC´s mentioning of this for ages.....

Jason.the campaign here is so energized..President Clinton's 7 cities in 24 hours was a big hit.

Hillary has proposed two debates in Oregon, one just on Oregon rural issues..Obama's campaign said it would not be a good use of his time.
Then Hillary challenged him to a Lincoln Douglass style debate with no moderator. Again he declined..

His campaign is having a difficult time explaining why he won't debate.

People understand that while she was the frontrunner she debated and debated and debated.

President Clinton was very good for Oregon and the constant disrespect by the Obama campaign to the Clinton years is seen as tacky.

We have a fight on our hands but we are making progress.

Ok.
Thnx for the update OD
Where can I find the latest polls for Indiana, NC and Oregon....

I predict atight one in Indiana...HRC winning by 1 or 2%, Loss in NC <5%. But have no clue about Oregon.

Mom and Dad are canvassing in NC this week. Am so impressed with them. They say however that it is diffcult in NC. They have been assigned some AA communities and do not get the warmest reception, especially form the young AA voting bloc.
But they are continuing.....

Jason..I'm glad your parents are out campaigning.

Jason,

Dean was on Russert show Sunday morning. He said that Florida and Michigan would be seated at the convention in some way. I am not sure what he meant by that.. Committee is supposed to hold a meeting on May 29th... Wonder what he means in some way.

Survey usa should have a new Indiana poll out probably tomorrow. Cnn reporting tied right now.

Julie

Good night all

Julie