Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Hoosier daddy.......

Sturgeon -- You're all by your lonesome! Are we the only ones here? Where's everyone at?

They're all congregated around the old radio set waiting for CC to be on Imus, I think.......

Oh , I'm here. Just reading all of last night's arguments with Brian.

I'm here with you guys but Craig on Imus at 7:30 is making me change my morning routine. Gotta get into the shower so I can leave for work after Craig's appearance.

Well , not WITH Brian. But , you know what I mean.

*Yawn*

We are waiting with bated breath for Craig on Imus.

this time of the morning it's more like "baited" breath, but I wait, just the same.......

Are there any debates scheduled between Clinton and Obama, or are they both just going all out with the individual campaigning? Seems that a good debate could help some of the non-committed voters coalesce around one of the candidates and perhaps give the Dems some direction.

Second Montana superdelegate lines up behind Obama
http://www.kxnet.com/getArticle.asp?ArticleId=224840

Moving that firewall Craig?

He's there LIVE! In person! Breathing baitedly down the I-Man's neck!

why not let Europe vote? lol

Yes, Craig's giving this morning's blog lines to Imus and Chuckles...

Craig is on Imus now...they're giving him enough time to do a job. Humorous, insightful and feisty--not Imus, Craig!

Mary-Kitt

I don't think there can be another debate. That would make it look like Senator Clinton was still a viable candidate.

mornin', all.

Craig, You've outdone yourself!!! Brilliant!

and sturg, you get two CSs for your opening comment.

Is this a great country or what?

NO MORE CONFETTI! But , ONE MORE COW! Nice pic of your parents , Craig. You're gonna get your Mom famous Like David Letterman's Mom!

Ed coffee and donuts are me, what would care for?

I hereby accept and I'd like to thank all the little people for my 2 CSs........What's a CS?

Rare Imus guest who gets to hang around through the commercial break to the next hour.

And really Craig shouldn't today's trailmix read:

"as political buzz makers ponder the probabilities that Barack Obama wins Pennsylvania".

Happy Birthday Brian

Hope it's a good one even if we can't accuse you of doing it gracefully.

yep.....McCain's knockin' 'em dead down at the funeral home..........

Here's a little bit of Happy this morning. ;0)

NRCC Now Trying To Recruit Democrats As Candidates — And Failing
By Eric Kleefeld - April 2, 2008, 5:35PM

Here's a case study in the problems that the Republicans have been having recruiting House candidates: The man they thought would be a top get for an open Dem-held seat decided that not only is he not running, but also that for now he's not even becoming a Republican.

It all started when Rep. Bud Cramer (D-AL), a relatively conservative Dem representing a district that President Bush carried with 60% of the vote, announced his retirement a couple weeks ago. The Republicans looked for a candidate, and had nearly found one in conservative Democratic state Sen. Tom Butler, who was on the verge of switching parties to make the race.

However, Butler announced yesterday that he's not running after all, and he's staying as a Democrat for at least the remainder of this legislative session. He'd scheduled his press conference and written his announcement speech, with the intention of switching parties, but decided at the last minute that he didn't want to go through the rigors of fundraising for a high-stakes race.

We've left a message with Butler's office, and hope to get in touch and find out more about his experience as an almost-candidate.

Good luck, NRCC — the filing deadline is this Friday

I guess I'm almost exactly ten yrs. older than brian.....just passed my 60th......."but I wont hold his youth and inexperience against him......."

Hey Kid......get off my lawn.......

Brian , you can now join AARP!

Happy Birthday Brian.....crossed an important line in your life buddy! ;0)

sturg - Chuckle Snort

Sturg, Congrats! I hope my brain is as sharp and wonderful as yours when I hit it! of course.....I'm sure your physical appearance is just as sexy. ;0)

pigs...sluts...free breakfasts...Vince Gill...annnnnnnnnd CC on 3 segments with DI!!!!! My day is off to a great start...ohhhhyeahhhhh!!!! 8D

Craig...
great interview!.... it's nice to hear your cheerful voice in the morning....

too many commercials, though.....

oh well....... GO DEMOCRATS!

And really Craig shouldn't today's trailmix read:

"as political buzz makers ponder the probabilities that Barack Obama wins Pennsylvania".

Why would a good "do be" like Craig repeat a lie from the "don't be's" at the Obama Romper Room

Thanks all, and yes I did receive a letter from AARP yesterday inviting me to join, I almost hurled at the mailbox.

Corey - Bian has in all likelihood been getting AARP membership mailers for the past two years - I think my trash rates went up because of them in my run up to the big five-o.

"Ah, to be 50 again," he said wistfully.

H'Bday Brian. It's all downhill from this point on.

Brian, fifty's not a big deal - other than the fact that it's a symbolic point from which you can look back at the years of your life gone by and realize that those were the best years of your life and very little is likely to get better from this point forward. Happy birthday.

AARP. Gave my son-in-law a gift membership for his birthday. Really felt good. Nothing like payback.

gee thanks pogo, in all candor it's a bit bewildering being half a century old. Now I know how the rest of you feel *ducks*.

Brian, fifty's not a big deal - other than the fact that it's a symbolic point from which you can look back at the years of your life gone by and realize that those were the best years of your life and very little is likely to get better from this point forward. Happy birthday.

Posted by: pogo | April 3, 2008 8:24 AM

Pogo,

I just filed this sonnet, Great sentiment. ;0)

Craig
Finally! You gave a good explanation on Imus about how we choose a nominee.If everyone in the msm understood the process they wouldn't be calling for an end to this race.In Rummy the game isn't over until someone gets 500 points.In this race you need 2024 delegates and if no one gets those numbers on first vote,then they revote until enough delegates change sides until they do get the required amount.That's where super delegates come in.And that is playing by the rules.Otherwise why have a convention and why have super delegates.This is not a coronation.And Craig you are right they are virtually tied.Neither of them have enough delegates.And anything can happen in the next 4 months.On either side.So lets not get our panties in a knot and let the game contunue
Ruth

Happy Birthday...

Doris Day!

You think fifty's bewildering? Just wait until you begin to realize what others already have about how addled your thoughts get as the precious few functioning brain cells and connections between them die off at an ever increasing rate. :) Oh, and Tide to Go works very well on drool stains.

She you think that's a sonnet? now that's funny. lol

Need to put Brian to work. Just ran this one by SNOPES to be sure it was still active and it was updated as TRUE.

Is the MAIL SERVER REPORT virus still active?

http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/mailserver.asp

Which on line email programs are at risk (I heard AOL Yahoo )

Don Corleone paid homage to his fellow Don......Don Tazemebro.........LOL

painter - with your name you have appropriately painted a huge bullseye on yourself. I'd prepare to duck if I were you.

btw, I don't recall seeing your answer to the inquiries about your name - is it just a name or is you one, and if so, landscapes or houses?

Happy Birthday, Brian!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gwkSY3kP82c

She you think that's a sonnet? now that's funny. lol

Posted by: pogo | April 3, 2008 8:36 AM

I knew you'd appreciate the humor my friend!

One of the reasons I use gmail is they have great anti-virus protection.

oh, and sturg - I sometimes also give out GSs (Giggle Snorts) - a close kin to CSs but lower keyed. Both are meant to be compliments for humorous postings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WYBholnNPU

Since Craig is done I van go back to the weather channel.No more msm

Indeed I do, She. Two GSs.

pogo;
I explained a while back,I paint for fun in oil.Mostly landscapes but I tried a few portraits.My dad for one and I did a great picture ,if I do say so myself of John Lennon and yoko Ono for my son and it hangs in his bar

John and Yoko nude on the bed? Actually if memory serves me right (at my age a risky assumption) only John was nude in that photo.

Can anyone tell me why when I post I can not read the posts after mine until I post again.I've tried refreshing the page but that doesn't work
Ruth

Brian
Lol no it was a picture from one of their 45's covers.I can only paint if the picture is in front of me.I copy like Obama does his speeches

Ruth,

All I can say is, it happened to me for while too. Don't understand really. But its not happening to me anymore.

Ruth trying to figure out the technical gliches of this blog is beyond this IT pro's comprehension.

yes, only Lennon was naked 8~P

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9729637/

Note to self, don't ask Ruth about her art anymore, apparently it's just a set up to smear Obama.

Great the sun is finally shining again.Now if it would just warm up . Maybe my tomato plants in my small green house will start to grow so they will be big enough to plant in garden in May.Had to replant them because they all died for some reason.The peppers are doing ok but still using heater.
Ruth

being 60 may be a bit of a drag, but having lived thru the fifties is priceless......

I saw this yesterday and thought "how appropriate a tribute to a president who has really turned so much of the country to sh*t." I didn't post it here, although I may have read it through a link.

http://sfist.com/2008/03/31/presidential_me_1.php

If someone else posted a link to this or a similar article, I apologize for purloining your work.

Aaww c'mon Brian it was just a joke.Getting way too serious around here

Oh good dueling 3:00 AM ads. Hillary's newest really got panned yesterday, I loved how Rachel Maddow said her first impression of the ad was that it really looked low budget, go figure.

And from a tin foil hat wearer let me also wish you a Happy Birthday.

God Bless.

Probably has to be low budget. Hillary doesn't have as many big defense contractor connections as your guy....

yes we should'nt speak of 'barack the beloved' in a demeaning fashion''' he does have some big ears though

Last comment from me was for Brian.

painter - thanks. I seldom go back and read all the posts. It's a privilege have an artist among the group - me, I only dabble in latex - eggshell is my finish of choice.

Brian, there were a few photos - the one you referred to and Lush linked was John naked and Yoko clothed from the Rolling Stone cover, the bed photo was them in PJs in the Amsterdam Hilton, I believe. The photos of both of them nude were for the Two Virgins album cover.

http://honeymoons.about.com/cs/canadiangetaways/a/johnyoko.htm

I'm not trying to get anything started, just providing info. Looks like there is an effort to push the "secret Muslim" story. It's the first headline at WND. The Right wing is not going to stop using this line of attack.

God damn, Gov Curzine says he reserves the right to change his SD vote from Hillary to Obama, that's gotta be sending shivers through HillCo. It's a good a thing.

Sturgeon
I'll be sixty eight Saturday and and the 50's were the best too bad we couldn't have today's technology and the 50's mindset.It was such a mellow time.You could walk down the street late at night and feel safe.No one locked their doors.Obesity was rare.Men didn't swear in front of women.Now it's the women with the foul language.Your sexual life was behind closed doors or as in many cases in the back seat.Now if they feel the urge they go in the bathrooms of the local bar or in Larry Craig's case the airport bathrooms.I guess that's progress.

Thanks AP, I never consider you a tin foil hat wearer, just perhaps one of the kindest souls to hang in our little corner of the Internets.

Great political ad parody from last night's Jimmy Kimmel show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghcXKArPrH0

Clinton's ad may have poor production qualities but in Obama's ad the content is a lie according to Fact Check.

"I'm not trying to get anything started"

Of course you are Gordo. Stop beating this dead camel.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Stewart_mocks_media_coverage_of_Obama_0402.html

Pogo,
I can paint on canvas but I leave the other stuff to ny husband.My kitchen needs painting and I did it once but I'm waiting him out,hoping he will do it..But maybe when I can open windows again I'll take a stab at it.

"God damn, Gov Curzine says he reserves the right to change his SD vote from Hillary to Obama, that's gotta be sending shivers through HillCo. It's a good a thing."

You still don't get it Brian. Of course he will. They all have to. Obama's crowd has now set it up so to do anything else means the entire Democratic party is racist. I guess it was a smart strategy.

We'll see if he can be elected. And if he is, we'll see if he can govern with anything more than quasi-religious rhetoric. Hope so, because Jimmy Carter sure paved the way for a right wing catastrophe.

Up thread a question about debates

Obama Clinton Debate in Philadelphia
UNITED STATES
PHILADELPHIA • National Constitution Center • 16 April 2008

In anticipation of the Pennsylvania primary on April 22, democratic presidential candidates Senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton will participate in a televised ABC News debate.

The National Constitution Center in Philadelphia will host the democratic presidential candidates debate on Wednesday, April 16, 2008. No public tickets will be available for this event.

At least the maroons from nothingbutcrap aren't involved

Did you put the Corzine remark in the proper context NO ...geee what a suprise

lies deception and distortion are the stock in trade of Obama

I think you have to be 55 to join AARP ...

See, painter, I can paint on drywall, but leave any painting on canvas to folks with decent senses of color and proportioin, and who, by the way, I am in awe of.

This is not a good thing to happen to any candidate for security reasons. It should of not gone on as long as it did. If Bill or Hillary had done this it would be a front page story for days.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/02/visibly-annoyed-obama-refuses-to-pose-for-picture/

Patsi--------------------

Talk to WND - I'm sure they will obey your command.

"I think you have to be 55 to join AARP ... "

Nope...they sent me The Letter when I turned 50. Made me a bit ill.

I think you have to be 55 to join AARP ...
--EuroTom

no, at age 50, one can join AARP(lite)... 8~)

Patsi, take your man hating, embittered opinions, fold them in 4 parts and cram em where the sun don't shine.

ET, you're obviously not on AARP's recruitment list - I'll make sure that oversight gets corrected.

Now that NATO approves of a Missile Defense System in Europe on Russia's border I think we may be seeing Russia counter acting by placing their Missile Defense System in Cuba and staging their Missiles in Venezuela with Chavez.

Will we have another Cuban Missile Crisis?

EuroTom

http://www.aarp.org/sk/membership8.html?CMP=KNC-MBR&keycode=U5LAC7&sticky=160&term=aarp%20membership&se=google

but you are not over 50, right?

Ok gang... I'm wrong. And I will NOT qualify for AARP until 6 August 2010, and no that is not so far away, and yes I am depressed about it, relatively speaking.

And Happy birthday to Brian. And to one of my favourite actresses and singers, Doris Day. I am waiting impatiently for the May 2008 edition of Vanity Fair to read the article on DD.

Meanwhile, let's all be nice to each other today in celebration of Brian's birthday. That means you too Brian :-)

Tom

You know, I read Patsi's 9:29 post and don't see anything in it that suggests any man hating tendencies. Patsi, are you really a man hater? You've always been nice to me. You don't hate me because I'm a man do you? Besides, I think the best song Chicago (Transit Authority) did was "I'm a Man." No...must...not... Note to self - civility at Craig's site on 4/3/08 ended at 9:38 AM, EDT. What a crock.

Gore response to Obama's attempt to pretend Al Gore has made a sub rosa endorsement

"No thanks and No endorsement."

ET, the AARP recruitment materials should begin arriving at your door by August 6, 2008. I recommend you consider purchasing an industrial grade shredder to fight identity theft from your trash.

April 3rd, 2008 9:17 am ET

From Mike Allen @ Politico.com:

"THE ARGUMENT — George Stephanopoulos on "World News": "Sources with direct knowledge of the conversation between Sen. Clinton and Gov. Bill Richardson … prior to the governor's endorsement of Obama, say she told him flatly, 'He cannot win, Bill. He cannot win.' "

It gets a Drudge banner and is the cover of the N.Y. Post: " 'Obama can't win' - Hill made brazen claim to sway Barack backer."

***PLAYBOOK EXCLUSIVE - PAUL HARVEY'S THE REST OF THE STORY: It turns out it was Governor Richardson who told the Clintons that he did not think Obama could win when he promised them he would not endorse Obama. According to a source with knowledge of the conversation, the governor said then that Obama was too inexperienced. "

Source: Richardson said Obama can't win

"New Mexico Governor, in talks with both Clintons about his endorsement, is said to have been the one to argue that Obama did not have the experience necessary to beat McCain.

A Clinton associate reacts: “Bill Richardson is clearly embarrassed that he broke his promise to them.”

http://thepage.time.com/2008/04/03/source-richardson-said-obama-cant-win/

Time to get off ,see you all.And Happy Birthday Brian!

the above is a perfect why we cant trust a ciased media

AP, we'll have to keep tabs on that missile defense deal and Russia & Cuba's response. This is not one of your more unlikely scenarios, although I don't know how cozy Russia and Cuba are these days. I do know that this badly compromises any credibility we might have in an argument against the installation of defensive missile systems in Cuba.

The problems of pond scum

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NzdkMzJlMTU1NGRmODM4NWY5YjNiY2JhNjZkZTk0ODc=&p=1

repost

the paul harvey article proves you cant trust the MSM because they are biased and dont investigate the story ...only want to bash clinton...dont give a dam if its the truth or not

This is an even better AARP site...

http://www.aarp.org/

Rezko/Meeks/Obama

and scroll down for a comment on the Auchi gift

http://www.chicagopride.com/news/article.cfm/articleid/5603104

Pogo,

Russia has already made a move with Chavez. Today Hugo is calling the documents about his funding FARC are US/Columbian lies. I wonder if JFK would agree with Obama's plans which may very well bring about that Russian sub base they always wanted.

And pleae note the logic of Brian last night in pointing out Carter's deal between Israel and Egypt as a reason not to fear another Carteresque administration. Wasn't Sadat murdered by militants and moved to the table by land for peace? Arafat rejected that offer. Unfortunately many Jews don't buy that arguement and Malley. Zbig and McPeak are a bet worse than Carter's team. Seems Egypt got a better deal, yes?

Speaking of dishonest crappy media the Washington Post (comost) continues its dive to the bottom

http://lefarkins.blogspot.com/2008/04/casey-myth-once-again.html

Good Morning Craig, Everyone:

Dear Dear Brian:
So you are fifty, my my, lets see what does fifty mean, dentures, balding thinning out hair, aches in placers Brian did not know existed, squinting to read without specs and oh lets not forgot now he can legitimately be classified as "dirty old man" lol, The Senior Menu @ Denny's where he can pocket the silverware and claim senile dementia!

@}-;-'--

♪┏(・o･)┛♪┗ ( ･o･) ┓♪ Happy Birthday Brian:-))

Sincerely,
Heather

Mike Allen in Politico: Obama pulls in $40 million in March; average contribution $96.00; 218,000 new donors.

Politico: "The Obama campaign announced Thursday morning that more than 442,000 contributors gave his campiagn more than $40 million in March.

The campaign, which did not release an exact total, said more than 218,000 donors contributed to the campaign for the first time, and the average contribution level was $96.

... The campaign's figures:

Total Raised in March: More than $40 million

Contributors in March: More than 442,000

First-Time Contributors in March: More than 218,000

Average Contribution: $96

Total Contributors to Date: More than 1,276,000

Brian,
Happy Birthday! I'm not there yet, but I'll be 50 soon enough.

ps. I don't know who "Ms Nancy" is, but it isn't me.

Brian-----------------------------

Obama's pal Meeks:

"On a more personal level, Meeks has reportedly blamed "Hollywood Jews for bringing us Brokeback Mountain" and actively campaigned to defeat SB3186, an Illinois LGBT non-discrimination bill, while serving in the Illinois state legislature alongside Obama. According to a 2006 Chicago Sun Times article, his church sponsored a "Halloween fright night" which "consigned to the flames of hell two mincing young men wearing body glitter who were supposed to be homosexuals."

http://www.chicagopride.com/news/article.cfm/articleid/5603104

Dear Nancy:
50 is for men, once we are 21 we stop aging:-))
WOOOOOHOOOOOOO

Sincerely,
Heather

pogo...

I posted this back on June 17th., 2007 and it still stands today.

An open letter to Russia's Vladmir Putin
http://america-weeps.blogspot.com/2007/06/open-letter-to-russias-vladmir-putin.html

And the post before this:

A Rogue Nation Rekindles Cold War
http://america-weeps.blogspot.com/2007/06/rogue-nation-rekindles-cold-war.html

This is where we may be heading very soon. I do expect us to be involved in a War with Iran before the elections and the Dark Lords visits to the same regions and countries this time around could mark the beginning of it.

While our attention is turned to the nomination contest going on they are planning the next war.

While everyone bickers about who's electable and who's not the wheels of War ratchet up and before anyone realizes it it will be to late to stop.

Hope it doesn't happen, however it appears very likely now.

Politico website: that's interesting. Pulled it up about 10 mins. ago to research Mike Allen story "tz" referenced.

Very briefly, they had up story on Jimmy Carter "all but endorsing" Obama, as reported by a Nigerian paper; might have mentioned Carter has met some of Obama's relatives in Africa ... I clicked on Allen story; in meantime the JCarter story has disappeared and not reappeared on Politico's homepage.

April Fool's joke? Another erroneous Nigerian email?

50th Birthday Quotes

The years between fifty and seventy are the hardest. You are always being asked to do things, and yet you are not decrepit enough to turn them down.
- T.S. Eliot

Looking fifty is great--if you're sixty.
- Joan Rivers

At age 50, everyone has the face he deserves.
- George Orwell

The man who views the world at fifty the same as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
- Muhammad Ali

You take all of the experience and judgment of men over 50 out of the world and there wouldn't be enough left to run it.
- Henry Ford

LOL
Am I the only 30 year old cat here?

Anyway
Happy Birthday B.

Can someopne enlighten me about the Richardson story. Don´t understand who said what when..... A bit clueless

Interesting look at Media bias and the Obama campaign from Europe

http://www.newstatesman.com/200804030028

I would recommend the last Maher Show to get Obamniacs latest spin on Wright and Hillary.

Savage and Smiley were particularly enlightening though Maher did not protest and Klein looked like he might vomit at times. Even the Spitzer episode was a case against the Patriot Act and not immorality....

Jason....I have sox that are older than you!!

ROTFLMOAO!!!

what do the latest poll say guys?

@Max: Here in Holland people laugh at the media circus. My colleagues that I meet in the lunchroom constantly ask me: No offense man, but how do they prefer an inexperienced cheap talker over a hard working experienced woman...Here in Holland Hillary would have won before any primary would start...

I just sit, and say: THE MEDIA!

They do not understand though....

LL.
Can´t be....Come on LL. You and I need to go buy you some fresh sox
LMPO.....

If it is any comfort...I will turn 31 in July!

GORDO PLEASE!!!!!

HAVE MERCY ON US!!!!

GO TROLL IN OTHER WATERS!!!!!

Max & AP, no, really, I do think that Cuba and Venezuela present prime opportunities for Russia to stage its own missile defense system in the west, and Raul and Chavez would just love to stick it to the US. It does indeed bear watching. In this case, Nato is not necessarily our friend as we attend to the world but ignore our own back yard.

Craig, again, I think you're simply keeping the story alive in a really reprehensible, and uncreative, way - how many "showdowns" does this election need? I understand it's in the media's best interest to keep the narrative of the race alive, but come on, can you at least be original about your coverage? Another showdown (cue bright lights, explosions)? Really? isn't this race, other than through some technicality on the part of the Clinton campaign and the super delegates, over for all intents and purposes?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Carter_hints_at_Obama_backing.html

Dog the story is still there.

Well Eurotom here claims Europe supports Obama. One thing that Obama can point to as an accomplishment is that he has already damaged the Democrat's history by trashing the Clinton era. And that was the only time they hel power during the last twenty-eight years. Obamniacs scream that Hillary is hurting the party, but the damage Obama has done undelies the real reason he might lose against McCain. Still, if he loses, the Left will claim that women liar Hillary screwed the Democrats. To hear Travis S on Maher joke about "God Damn America and claim MLK said essentially the same thing is quite astonishing for no other reason than his fellow white pundits taking no offense. Klien tried but was quickly pounced on.

Congrats Brian, you've made it this far. With modern technology let's hope you can make another 50, that is if the cannibals don't eat you first!

I need to be in Portland today so will fit in a couple hours of Hillary sign holding.

More and more people are talking here about Obama's inexperience.

We see this all the time..the slick, new product gets lots of attention..Time is HIllary's best friend as the Audacity of Hype becomes more clear.

Happy Birthday Brian,
Make it a good day. Here a cake for you to share with the gang, make it disappear:
http://i28.tinypic.com/w9wq39.jpg

some extra cakes, if that wasn't enough:
http://i29.tinypic.com/2ajcoi9.gif

I'm off to the dog park enjoy !

jason, I envy you your youth - at your age I had just gotten married the first time (of only 2, thankfully), was an avid cyclist, dirt bike racer and whiitewater kayaker. Now I fondly recall those days and order sweet peppers on my steak hoagies. I'd say the average age here is, well, more than 50. Sometimes the posters here are so old you can almost hear the virtual creaks as we lean toward our keyboards.

Lush - I always say shorts or t-shirts ( in this case, probably truthfully).

Allthough in the primaries TIME was always on his side, in the end TIME will be on her side
The only thing she needs to do, is not give up.

He outraises her
He outspents her
He leads her

Yet still, he cannot close the dealll

And now the deterioration starts...Hmmmmm
Maybe Oprah needs to come to the rescue

Rise Hillary Rise....

I think you people are going a little overboard on claiming Obama has "trashed" the Clinton legacy. I am not sure about all of the nasty things you claim Obama has said (but I think many are attributing statements to Obama that have been made by pundits or Obama supporters - to the extent there is any difference ; )

I am familiar with the Reagan comments - and I don't think that statement was so bad (and it was also true).

Moreover, the Clinton legacy IS NOT trashed. I agree it has been tarnished during this campaign - but that has a lot more to do with the way the former President has conducted himself and the media - than anything Obama has said. (Of course the fact that Obama is beating the Clintons might hurt their legacy - but he can't be blamed for that).

And listen, the real problem with Bill - is that he is acting like an over-enthusiastic spouse of a candidate - as opposed to acting like a former President. So I don't think he can be faulted TOO much for that.

Plus, look on the bright side - once Obama wins and the Clintons back him as the Democratic nominee - much of this nonsense will be forgotten and the Clintons will get back to adding to their legacy - rather than detracting from it.

When you claim someone is a racist why would you want them campaigning for you

Pogo, I agree and NATO resists a new vision that would increase Cybersecurity and protect energy supplies. I think however, Russia would not have much of a case that US ballistic missles threaten Cuba or South America. Also the BBC reports that South America has increased their positive take on the US despite US Media spin. Even Chavez was defeated by his own people.

Also, please note the Gore deal that let Russia continue to supply Iran with arms and technology in order to protect US arm exports to NATO and other US allies. This is a fact. Adding Gore to an Obama team might be questionable if it involves foreign policy. Also Gore made some pretty harsh rants about removing Saddam and the consequence of Saddam re-armed.

One other point: Russia has been testing a manueverable re-entry warhead, though they call it a capsule. Clear violation of anti-ballistic treaty. As the world awaits Iranian sats in space, the question if whether their launch vehicle to do this constitues a ballistic missile capable of reaching Europe or even the US is strange. Personally, I think Iran lauching a nuke at us is absurd, but such a reality serves as a deterrent against bad moves they make. The real danger is fingerprintless delivery systems and radioactive material which is exactly what FARC wants.

"I'd say the average age here is, well, more than 50." pogo

Hey Pogo, when I do the math - my average age is way lower then that.... : )

Now -I have to go they are howling (dogs)

Sam Stein
The Huffington Post

2008
Obama Camp's Memo on Clintons' Politicizing Race
January 12, 2008 01:15 PM
!Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign has prepared a detailed memo listing various instances in which it perceived Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign to have deliberately played the race card in the Democratic primary.

Chris Matthews may have seen something yesterday that worried him or MSNBC called him on the carpet. For the first time, I actually heard him question whether or not Sen. Obama had the "fiber" to be president. Not exactly an about face but at least not drooling in abject adoration while lambasting Hillary.

Pogo..

You killin´ me bro; ya killin me....LMPO

I am old allready. I mean 30...I need to finish my dissertation soon or I will go crazy.. then finally I can really enjoy life. Been studiying too long now. Have enough titles. LOL

Anyway, some one give me some polls that I can laugh about.....
I am here untill 6 (one hour form now) and then off to tennis lessons...

"Patsi, are you really a man hater? You've always been nice to me. You don't hate me because I'm a man do you?"

Ha! No, I hate you because you're beautiful! (KIDDING!)

I grew up around cowboys, how could I hate men?

I agree with K and the spin that 1. Obama did not trash the Clintons and 2. this is the greatest fodder for Republicans is simply wrong. Another example of Obamniacs wanting it both ways. If I were the Clintons my support would be little at best and Hillary SHOULD not tarnish herself with what will follow an Obama administration by taking the VP. Bill has every reason to be red-faced as he has been tarred and feathered, called a racist and placed along side of Nixon.

Warren time to see the eye-doctor.

Rasmussen National Poll Yesterday..

Hillary Leads Obama by 1 point..

I shared Maya Angelou "Rise Hillary Rise" to friends..very good reaction..

Campaign should e-mail to all supporters to share..

Off to Portland...gorgeous day

Jason:

Time is not on Hillary's side. Her best chance to win this thing was on Feb. 5. And one of the most clear trends from this campaign - is that when Obama has time - he is able to close the gap in states that favor Clinton.

He outspends her because he gets more donations - which is a good sign of enthusiasim - especially the way Obama raises money.

And once again - with feeling - there is no secret problem or inadequacy with Obama that - "prevents him from closing the deal." (which I think was a phrase coined by Mary Matlin - the GOP is using Clinton supporters like GORDO to do their dirty work so that McCain can keep his hands clean).

Anyways - back to the point. Obama will not "close the deal" or "deliver a knock out blow" because Clinton has very loyal supporters that will not vote for Obama with her still in the race. This explains Obama's supposed "problem with white voters." These people aren't racist - they just love the Clintons!!

So I guess we will just have to be patient and continue to watch Obama win more delegates, votes and states.

Patience is a virtue....

If Obama is the candidate President and Senator Clinton should go on a long and restful vacation and do as Obama supporters have suggested and not be involved.

OK, getting locked out. Trying for third time here:

Jason at 10:32 a: Can someopne enlighten me about the Richardson story. Don´t understand who said what when..... A bit clueless
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Jason and tz: have been looking into the Richardson story and am wondering myself if it should have ever hit the airwaves. Can find no attribution of sources whatsoever. (Drudge and NY Daily News offer no named sources either.) Can other C List readers help here?

RE ABC News report last night by George Stephanopoulos, per ABC Political Radar site today:

NOTE: I will list link in next post. Wondering why C List won't accept this post so left it out of this one.

Pertinent parts: "Sources with direct knowledge of the conversation between Sen. Clinton and Gov. Bill Richardson, D-N.M., prior to the Governor's endorsement of Obama say she told him flatly, "He cannot win, Bill. He cannot win."

Richardson, who served in President Clinton's cabinet, disagreed. [FIRST ITEM, MULTIPLE SOURCES, NONE NAMED]

.... Yet here's a wrinkle, from a source with direct knowledge of Richardson's conversations with the Clintons: Richardson himself told Sen. Clinton and former President Clinton that he didn't think Obama could win, back when he was (according to the Clintons) telling them earlier this year that he wouldn't endorse Obama. [

"Too inexperienced," Richardson said, the source tells ABC News. [SAME OR ANOTHER UNIDENTIFIED SOURCE RE CONVERSATION EARLY THIS YEAR]

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tz was grousing about no MSM coverage, but here's what Mark Halperin put up in Time mag online:

Labeled: Comment from Clinton Associate: “Bill Richardson is clearly embarrassed that he broke his promise to them. He should come out and tell the truth and admit that he told both Clintons that Obama wasn’t ready and can’t win.”

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I am mystified why ABC or Time went with these stories, when no one was willing to speak for attribution.

Here is the ABC site link re Political Radar referenced in my 11:05 a post.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/candidate-clint.html

Jenny McCarthy's behavior, her disrespect, and vulgar language interfere with her message.
--Oregon Democrat

I agree. I was shocked and saddened by her behavior, on Larry King. 8~(

HBO is now showing a documentary about 5 children with autism...it is called, "Autism: the Musical".

http://www.autismthemusical.com/index.php?session=myhomepage&id=

Check it out...

Chris M asked Obama to explain the pastor near the end of the interview and Obama said something about spending to much time on the subject and then something else I could not hear and it stopped Chris from asking anymore questions about it , does anybody know what he said to get Chris off the subject?

Show me the memo - as opposed to some reporter's characterization of it.

Right after SC, I saw Tucker Carlson read a few quotes from very straight-forward memo from the Obama campaign - and then paraphrase them and inject charges of racism that I did not see in the statements.

So consider your sources...a lot of these conservatives anlayzing the Democratic race have a "hidden agenda" - and that is no conspiracy theory my friends...

By the way Brian, I'm fixing a hot dog and beans "casserole" for lunch....just so you know that I'm still proud to be a hillbilly. (One more of those low rent, uneducated trailer trash po' folks for Hillary.)

But seriously -- Happy 50th. I hated turning 50, but it sounds like you are rolling with it.

Thnx.....

I wanna see sources. Clearly there are none; or do not want to be quoted.

@warren: Partly right.
But time is on her side. U know why: Poeple looking past the amounts raised and looking at the cattle. My guess. And frankly I do not love the Clintons, I just thin HRC will be a better president than Barrack.

We will see in the end.

"That’s right folks. As you know this race is close, so 25 delegates can mean a lot. Well, you can rest well tonight knowing that 25 appointed delegates, the names and affiliations unknown to us, are going to pick our Democratic candidate–all of them appointed by Howard Dean with Donna Brazile’s blessings. Now who do you suppose will be the beneficiary of those 25 obscure and magical votes, that are not acquired through ANY primary or caucus?"

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/03/a-car-dealer-a-college-student-and-a-lobbyist-were-sitting-in-a-bar/

There have been plenty of "no attribution" stories about Senator Clinton.

Wsrren

You can pretend it didn't eist but it does.
And Tucker Carlson didn't write the memo or make the charges. The Obama campaign did.

I think however, Russia would not have much of a case that US ballistic missles threaten Cuba or South America.

That's not the point. The point is that we didn't want Russian Missiles on our doorstep and now were putting our Missiles on there doorstep.

Russia putting a Missile Defense Shield in Cuba and staging the actual war heads in Venezuela is no different than what we are doing.

Russia would be putting them there to protect and aide Russia and there allies were we to launch a Nuclear Missile at them from the the new base Bush wants to build on their doorstep.

I am confused on who said what about whom. Who said Obama can't win, Clinton or Richardson?

http://thepage.time.com/2008/04/03/source-richardson-said-obama-cant-win/
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/candidate-clint.html

morning all...

happy birthday Brian! I walk around with the delusion that I'm ..ohhh about 19 I guess... and then I run into someone I went to high school with and I think, "jeeesus..what happened to HIM??".. then I realize that he said exactly the same thing about ME! But life is good, my friend.

Pogo..between 30 and 33, I got married and had 2 kids.. (i'm tempted to use that old joke, I've been married for 20 years, 5 of them happy! ) .. I'm still happily married (much to the surprise of many friends) and I wouldnt trade the past 20 years for anything.

The bad thing about working second shift is.. I miss the good tv shows in the evening, and the good stuff early mornings.. glad to hear CC entertained everyone.

Have a great day!

Ladies Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

We do not age after 21, thats reserved for men only＼（＾ ＾）／

( 　ﾟ,_ゝﾟ) Heather

KGC: thanks for finding the Politico Jimmy Carter story; it did not come up when I searched for "Jimmy Carter". Good to find it in Ben Smith's blog.

FYI: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

PS: his first item now is on the Florida and Michigan debacle: "There's some polling suggesting that voters in Florida and Michigan will be less likely to vote for Democrats if their votes aren't counted, though you might expect that to fade over the course of a long general election fought on more concrete issues. ..."

though you might expect that to fade over the course of a long general election fought on more concrete issues. ..."

or become more entrenched depending upon the attitude of the candidates about their votes.

Jason - I forgot to add - I was and ABD at that time. (And I hesitate to ask, but is your "P" what I think it probably is?)

U-B, I like your math (but I question it).

Patsi, one thing I've never thought about you is that you are a man hater. (What is the reverse of misogyny called anyway?) How are the beanie weaneys coming?

Here's item from Talking Points Memo: putting it up because reporter says "Shipley" wouldn't return calls, and that's first time a name has surfaced ...

"Top Hillary Adviser: Richardson Privately Said Obama Is Unelectable
By Greg Sargent - April 3, 2008, 9:59AM

This morning, Mark Halperin quoted a Clinton "associate" saying that Bill Richardson privately had confided to the Clintons that he thought Obama couldn't win a general election.

Now I've got more. A top Hillary adviser confirms this, telling me:

"Bill Richardson repeatedly promised he would not endorse Obama -- and the reason he gave was that Obama wasn't ready -- he couldn't be elected."

After the news broke yesterday that Bill Clinton grew angry in a meeting with California super-delegates, and asserted that Richardson had promised five times not to endorse Obama, a Richardson spokesperson denied that Richardson ever promised Hillary any endorsement.

But that isn't what is being reported. Rather, what's being reported is that Richardson promised he wouldn't endorse Obama. Shipley didn't return my call asking for comment on that.

Now a top Hillary adviser has asserted to me that this happened, and claims that Richardson said the reason for this was that he didn't think Obama could win.

We'll be reporting this out more today."

Another crane just collapesed this time in FL.

Pahl Shipley is a Richardson spokesperson.

From January press release on Richardson's exploratory committeee:

Pahl Shipley: Shipley was most recently the Communications Director and Chief Spokesperson in the Office of Governor Bill Richardson. Shipley is a 25-year award-winning veteran of television news and prior to working for Richardson, he served as the News Director at KOAT-TV in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
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So, sadly, maybe not a slip on the "source."

Brian,

Happy Birthday.

I'd like to tell you that I'm heading to NYC today in honor of your birthday, but since I'm only going to make it as far as the Bronx and Yankee Stadium, I'm afraid you'd see through that lie.

People are lying to you if they tell you it's all down hill after 50. I know because downhill started for me at 46, and the hill got a lot steeper at 60.

Anon, you're acting nutty again. First JFK put American Jupiter nuclear missiles in Turkey and that figured greatly in the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Russia is not objecting to Missile Defense in Europe because it tagets new nukes at them, but rather reduces the threat of their nukes they use for pychological reasons (see threats to target Ukraine).

Your analysis is completely wrong as usual and in the end MissileDefense will come because of the proliferation of short range, intermediate rang and long range missiles. NK is producing a medium range missile that can be fires clandestinely from cargo containers on ships or from others small sea-based platforms. And Obama should remember this push for defensive technology came from Reagan and has been supported in a bipartisan way.

Do your homework and if you are confused about the Cuban Missile Crisis, see Avalon archives over at Yale. Read what JFK and Russia actually said, not what you imagine.

Max, the argument would likely go something like this - we have to position the defensive missiles so that they could intercept and destroy the US nucs before they reach Europe, where they would be intercepted by the US and NATO missile defense system. It might not be compelling, and may not even be plausible based on the systems involved, but it's an argument I'd expect to hear.

And Max, don't misunderstand me - I am not saying that I expect any of this to occur or even that Russia would float the idea as a trial balloon to see how the West would react, just that it bears watching.

pogo...

At least you get it. The defense shield were putting in is in the Chec {not sure of the spelling} Republic and the Missiles would be in Poland on Russia's doorstep.

That makes for a first strike by us hard to stop. If Russia puts a defense shield in Cuba and stages their Missiles in Venezuela they would still be able to retaliate against a first strike against us.

They would also be able like you said to stop any Missiles launched at Europe by us and becomes a deterrent against America using Nuclear Missiles in a first strike against any foreign government we intend to do Nation Building in.