Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

There is no sound on MSNBC! Is anyone else having trouble or is it just my cable company? I can't believe it!

so glad you are back on MSNBC..i will be watching...and this is a great idea having all 3 candidates to debate or Clinton and McCain.....what's your take on Preacher Wright speaking out?

if you have no sound..put the caption on your tv

Morning Craig pending! No sound problem here.

I can't find it on my remote! It is still off! I am on the phone with Mediacom. I can't believe this is happening. They say it is a problem with the broadcaster.

Except it's past 6:30 and they're doing Shuster, not Craig... :(

Now they are saying it is maintenance in my area. They are working on the fibers. NO SOUND!

Good.....Craig just keeps on talking when they try to interrupt........lol

now THAT was TV worth seeing........he backed both of those creeps up to somewhere near the truth.......

Has it finally arrived

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/24/media-jump-ship-from-obam_n_98545.html

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I LOVE YOU, CRAIG!

What a fantastic appearance on Morning Joe. Andrea Mitchell
looked like she had eaten a tart apple as you articulated your
reasons as to how and why Clinton can still win.

Wow! You were on your game this morning. You blew
away Joe and Ms. Sour Puss.

if it's on huffington post......it's trash talking clinton one way or the other................

Good Morning Craig-

Loved your conversation with Joe and Andrea this morning even though they kept interrupting. One question--why don't you have your own show?
One more question-how was your dinner with Helen?She's a classic.

One more thing--you looked fabulous, dahling.
Was that a Gucci suit? You are becoming very GQ.

Back to Morning Joe--I was literally in bed and jumped
up to write you to let you know how impressed I
was when you held your ground against know-it-all
Joe and Andrea as they continued blathering on
about how "Hillary Clinton CAN'T win."
I wasn't even aware of the method you explained for
how Senator Clinton can win without Michigan and Florida.
Wow! I'm impressed.

He was GREAT!! Note to ANDREA back off, don't talk over people~~~RUDE.

By the way, your idea to have Senator Clinton and McCain debate
is a great one. It would make Hillary look presidential and Obama
seem like he's not up to the challenge.

Andrea Mitchell wants to challenge Craig's math? I can't believe they gave him such a "hard time" especially in view of the good 'ole boy backslapping they've got going on right now with Barnicle.

This is an example of what I was saying about the difference between Craig's appearances on Imus and anywhere else, especially MSNBC. First, less time. Second, no friendliness. Where do we get to see Craig's unique personality in this type of brass tacks exchange? Thanks goodness he interrupted or he wouldn't have gotten to say anything at all!

Andrea Mitchell wants to challenge Craig's math? I can't believe they gave him such a "hard time" especially in view of the good 'ole boy backslapping they had going on with Barnicle.

This is an example of what I was saying about the difference between Craig's appearances on Imus and anywhere else, especially MSNBC. First, less time. Second, no friendliness. Where do we get to see Craig's unique personality - the "real Craig" - in this type of brass tacks exchange? I wouldn't want to see all banter all the time, but Craig's humorous-and-accurate ability to read the tea leaves is what makes him so interesting. Thank goodness he interrupted or he wouldn't have gotten to say anything at all!

First time this "acting up" has caused me to re-post...sorry.

Dynamite appearance Craig!

Those of you who have watched American Chopper will know what I mean when I say Andrea looked just like Paul Sr with the smoke coming out of his ears.

Krugman's oped in the Times really lays it on the line, too:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/25/opinion/25krugman.html?ref=opinion

CC,

On Morning Joe, when you were asked about your reaction to the NY Times article in which Rep. James E. Clyburn criticizes Bill Clinton, your response was forceful. It was important that someone sane point out that this man has become merely another Obama supporter.

I have two questions for you, Craig.

1. In the article, The Times calls Bill Clinton's campaign behavior "bizarre." But, I cannot remember any of President Clinton's actions as bizarre or racist. To what are they referring?

2. Clyburn states, "black people are incensed (at Bill) over
all this?" Over what?

I don't get it.

Thank you for clarifying.

Ivy, I echo you....What Up with the interaction with Craig..I had to say What Up because if anyone watched when Hillary was on Andrea jump to mention the New York paper slamming her and she (Andrea said What Up with that)lol

Craig,
You are the best! I've emailed both Viewer Services and Morning Joe letting them know how I feel.

During the discussion, that line from "A Few Good Men" kept coming to mind, "You can't handle the truth!"

Keep it up!

hey all, thanks for the comments. ha, guess i'm lucky the Obama folks here get up later than the Clintonites.

Tan,

You are right...the friendly banter was cut off by Joe after the first syllable...what was up with that? Andrea was curt. Craig did a great job holding his own. I think they have axes to grind because Craig always shows them up when his predictions prove out, and theirs turn out to be hype.

Craig,

You know we all support you!!!

I think some media folks are scared you have people that turn to you to get the facts straight and you cut threw the crap storms...THEIR scared YOU will take their Job. This is my thoughts.Most important your character is Real and Honest.

"what's your take on Preacher Wright speaking out? --Posted by: emmy"

-- might help Obama if Wright can come across as more reasonable than those clips

"One question--why don't you have your own show?
One more question-how was your dinner with Helen?She's a classic. -- Posted by: ubns"

-- 1) no one has asked me to, but i'm too lazy for that much work anyway, 2) she's the best, probably my best friend in DC

and to prof marcia, Clyburn was the ring leader for Obama camp in marginalizing BC, something they saw a need to do after losing NH and they did it quite well

Come of as more reasonable? Not from the clips I've seen so far. I hope Rev Wright was asked how he justified taking God's name in vain on the pulpit.
Rev Wright is to Obama as Bill is to Hil'ry. Maybe HRC & BO could agree to send them off on a special mission.

Craig, Glad to see you back on MoJo. I don't think Andrea Mitchell shares my sentiment. She seemed a little miffed by your math. The truth hurts.

McCain's pastor endorser was much more specific......he only said God damned New Orleans......the rest of the gulf coast was just collateral damage, as someone pointed out earlier.......

Ivy,

Your right he shows them up!!!

MORNING CRAIG. Great Job.

Craig

OMGoodness...that was the best interview...good questions....great answers!!!!

Mrs. Greenspan was definitely channeling her "inner snarky Mika"!!

The look on Andrea's face, after you answered her question("...and what is her shot at winning the popular vote, Craig, how does she do it?"), was priceless!! AM is the new "mini Mika"...LMAO!!!!

"Scurrilous” and “disingenuous” were among the words a top Democrat in the U.S. House of Representatives used on Thursday to describe Hillary Clinton’s campaign tactics in her bid to defeat Barack Obama for their party’s presidential nomination.

House Democratic Whip James Clyburn, of South Carolina and the highest ranking black in Congress, also said he has heard speculation that Clinton is staying in the race only to try to derail Obama and pave the way for her to make another White House run in 2012.

“I heard something, the first time yesterday (in South Carolina), and I heard it on the (House) floor today, which is telling me there are African Americans who have reached the decision that the Clintons know that she can’t win this. But they’re hell-bound to make it impossible for Obama to win” in November, Clyburn told Reuters in an interview.

It's hard to describe how damaging it is to the Clintons' long-term reputation to get repudiated like this by someone with Clyburn's stature and civility. The only thing that would hurt more is if John Lewis were to say the same things. And John Lewis has already de-endorsed Clinton and thrown his weight behind Obama.

For Clyburn to openly suggest that Clinton is engaging in a strategy to throw the election to McCain implies that there is now an almost complete lack of good-will between the Clintons and the Congressional Black Caucus. Given the stellar regard with which the CBC held the Clintons prior to the onset of this nominating process, this fall from grace is staggering.

Read the whole article at link below.

http://www.boomantribune.com/

No Democrat can win the White House without the AA community. Looks like not only have the Clinton's lost the AA vote, but the Democratic Party may have also lost it for years to come.

Thank you Hillary for destroying the Democratic Party.

That was equally as bad. These church leaders aren't lifting up their congregations, they are playing on fear and hatred to unify their flock instead of love. Unfortunately, playing on strong emotions works...survival instincts, ya know. However, it has a built-in backlash because it is a inherently flawed way of thinking and being. Like attracts like, hate attracts hate, fear attracts fear. Love would be a better choice.

Craig: I am waiting patiently for your appearance to go up on YouTube. There is no sound on MSNBC in my region of Iowa (perhaps all of Iowa, who knows?) If anyone sees the appearance go online, please let me know! Mediacom sucks!

So lets just give Hillary the nomination even though Obama is winning by all the measures, most votes, most pledged delegates and if this does go to convention and the nomination is given to Hillary no more Democratic Party.

Then when McCain wins in November {That's if there are elections} you can all come back here and bash Obama and whine about how a Black Man kept Hillary from winning because he wouldn't drop out and Hillary had to forced the Super Delegates to take the nomination away from him.

still have'nt seen what bill clinton has done or said that
was racsist '''just a made up narrative by obama
supporters to get 95% of the black vote

anon......the word is "winning" as opposed to "has won"

Hil'ry did not structure the Dem party. I find it interesting that the Obama-ites are now nervous that, if given the nom, he really won't be able to win in November. They are already starting to blame Hil'ry for Obama losing the general. So, let's see...if she is the nom and she loses, she should've gotten out & let BO have the nom & if he gets the nom & loses it's still her fault. Why don't you just own up to the fact that you fell for a pretty package with nothing inside to offer. Really, I think BO only looked good because his speeches made him so competent to W in comparison...when he actually is just another arrogant, hollow version of Bush. This is the main reason he doesn't want to debate Hil'ry, again. He can't think on his feet.

"and to prof marcia, Clyburn was the ring leader for Obama camp in marginalizing BC, something they saw a need to do after losing NH and they did it quite well"

Craig, you better believe it. After the smoke settles, I bet you see a bunch of scholars here in Columbia dissecting how the marginalization of Mr Clinton was orchestrated. I think many of his past supporters will be angered at how crassly they were manipulated.

Rev Wright may be Mr Obama's uncle, but, Rep Clyburn is his stepfather.

for most of the race.......the Hare was "winning".

slow and steady wins the race.

My thoughts, not worth much to anyone but my dog and she just pretends.

I am not a big Obama fan. I don't think I could vote for him at this time. It would be too much of a shot in the dark. I think he needs 4-8 more years so get experience and give us an opportunity to get to know and trust him.

I don't think this interview with Wright will be a bad thing. I don't think Moyers would be involved with anything like that. It will most likely humanize the man and I don't really think he would do anything to hurt Obama. The media will be able to snag bits and pieces to hurt Obama just like they have done to Hillary. Obama is just starting to get what Hillary has been getting for 15 years.

The sound bites I heard from Wright that sounded so radical before had some hints of truth in them. Certainly not what any politician would say unless he/she was suicidal but still somewhat true. We have created much of the mess we are facing.

The problem Wright complains about results from our electing people who we don't know enough about. Yes the white man is more responsible for these problems but then Barack Obama is closer to being a white man than Hillary is and we don't know enough about him.

Just some groggy morning thoughts.

Carol

Craig - the Clinton v. McCain debate is a brilliant idea!!!

You were great on MoJo today - you are always the only one that makes sense when the MSM spins things in Obama's direction, you basically smash your foot down on the top - you shut Andrea Mitchell down and but good today.

Kerry Kennedy was also great this morning as she was able to talk about Hillary's history of fighting for women's rights as human rights.

Sending MoJo an e-mail this morning giving him a pat on the back for having fair and balanced coverage this morning.

Funny thing is that I woke up to Craig's voice on MSNBC but before I woke up, I was dreaming that Craig was on a panel for some news show analysing the race with a bunch of Obama celebrity supporters - probably some MSM supporters too. All I can remember about it is that Craig was making his usual sense and the celebrities didn't like it because it didn't follow the "we love Barack Obama" they are used to and started to get up and walking off the set. At least 2 or 3 got up and walked out before I woke up - unfortunately, the only one I can vividly remember walking out on you, Craig, is Jane Fonda. Anyway, I realize now, I had this dream because you were indeed talking in the background on the TV...fortunately nobody walked out on you in real life. LOL...unfortunately, it's clear I've been following the campaign coverage too closely.

Craig, your an impressive chap

On MOJO this morning Craig your substantive comments regarding Jim Clyburn and the MSM was a profile in courage, My high estimation of you is well placed as is the diminution of the Obama shill Andrea Mitchell.

toast

ms mitchell should be pregnant with toothpicks

The critics sleep late , Craig. LOL! I've been messing with my blog this morning. I added a music player this morning. Just a selection of various songs I like.

Wow Craig , sorry I missed you on this morning's Mojo. Sounds like you were way on top of your game. Hope to see it either on you-tube or posted here over the weekend.

Happy Friday everyone !

Wendy......seek help

: )

j/k

Nah, we're here. We just like to let the brown nosers get in all of their accolades first before we start with the rational comments.

Wow Craig...dinner with Ms. Thomas last night and several appearances on MSNBC today!!

Who has more fun than you???

Today, MSNBC is "Must See Nothing But Craig"!!

Okay MSNBC is doing something right. They are at least bringing in John Riddley to try to explain the "Liberation Theology" of Rev. Wright in a positive light to counteract the usual brain dead "we don't know what we are talking about so we will just yammer" coverage of the PBS interview clips.

You may not agree with a great deal that he says, but the idea of individual action and self reliance in a world and country that has often abused the weakest among us is worth hearing and trying to understand.

If you missed the interview Riddley will have an editorial up on Huffington Post later today.

Of course having said that, I do have a vision of Sen. Obama in the middle of the road looking up and saying, "So this is what the bottom of the bus looks like."

"On Morning Joe, when you were asked about your reaction to the NY Times article in which Rep. James E. Clyburn criticizes Bill Clinton, your response was forceful."

Yes...I thought this was awesome. Getting them to agree that clearly Clyburn was an Obama supporter and not objective at all and then laying out the complete character assassination the Obama camp has done on Bill Clinton (noting that it was effective in South Carolina so of course they would revisit it in North Carolina). Love how you focused the "negative" campaigning on Obama where the rest of the MSM blame Hillary. It was quite objective, nicely done, and very true.

Nah, we're here. We just like to let the brown nosers get in all of their accolades first before we start with the rational comments.

Posted by: Bye Bye Billary | April 25, 2008 8:16 AM

bye bye's idea of a rational comment.......LOL

I bet Mrs Obama is flat in Axlerod's face right about now.

Ohhhhh...John Ridley was on?? I am glad I decided to record Scarborough today!!

A McCain/Clinton debate is most definitely what is needed now. Two grownups, how refreshing that would be. Clinton would take the day of course but at least McCain would get points by showing up.
One thing certain about McCain, HE isn't a coward.

Thanks!

"hey all, thanks for the comments. ha, guess i'm lucky the Obama folks here get up later than the Clintonites."

I don't know why because your analysis is fair based on the facts in front of you - why would Obama folks be upset with you?

[shrugs]

"So this is what the bottom of the bus looks like."
--Jamie

OMG...LMAO...you are hilarious!!!

Hillary debates McCain? Um...she isn't the nominee yet. In fact, she's in second place with NO HOPE of winning.

Hillary needs to get 67% of the pledge delegates from the remaining states. Even her best spinners admit that she can do that. Thus, the focus on stealing the nomination by conning the super-delegates.

The entire crew of MoJo, Craig included, were pushing the "a black man can't win" theme. Listening to Mojo this AM is sounded like the whole show was scripted by the Clinton campaign.

Race, race, race. Just keep talking about race 24/7.

Burrito...I know huh...

We usually start talking about race when you show up here each morning , Nash.

"Even her best spinners admit that she can do that."
--nash

and her best spinners are right!!

Race, race, race. Just keep talking about race 24/7.
Posted by: nash | April 25, 2008 8:30 AM

Hmmm, other than your own post above I haven't seen anyone else mention race here... Oh wait, I get it now!
If you aren't for Obama you're a racist. That insulting the voters strategy really worked well for your candidate in PA; I am sure it will be just as successful for him going forward.

The Clinton campaign themes:

"A white woman is better than a black man."

"Primaries don't matter. Voters don't matter. Let politicians choose the nominee."

"Anyone in the MSM who doesn't just repeat our talking points, and tries to think, is our enemy."

Everyone on Mojo was talking about race.

Some music for right now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr7USTe0EmQ

"Anyone in the MSM who doesn't just repeat our talking points, and tries to think, is our enemy."

Posted by: nash | April 25, 2008 8:39 AM

Don't you have a school bus to catch?

What are the Obama campaign themes?

Latest polls have Obama winning Indiana by a little, SC by a lot.

Spin that, Hillary people.

I enjoyed your comments on Morning Joe. I don't understand why Andrea gets so angry when people are for Hillary. She tried to get in your face a few times, but Joe helped run interference. Apparently you can't be neuteral in this world anymore.

comparison...when he actually is just another arrogant, hollow version of Bush. This is the main reason he doesn't want to debate Hil'ry, again. He can't think on his feet.

Posted by: blueINdallas

Obama can stammer with eloquence though...

Rev Wright may be Mr Obama's uncle, but, Rep Clyburn is his stepfather.

Posted by: Flatus

very perceptive

toast

Clyburn has obviously become a total partisan for the Obama team instead of being fair.

For the PA primary every political analyst on the air both before and after was discussing the areas around Philadelphia and everything hinging on the AA turnout. Just as women support Sen. Clinton to a greater degree, black people are proud of and support Sen. Obama. Why is it racist to say so?

Yes the Obama campaign painted the Clintons in that light following SC and the media swallowed their version of the story whole and should be ashamed of themselves, particularly in light of their doing exactly the same thing as Pres. Clinton.

If you're losing on substantive issues, how to use race to try to turn things around.
(1) Have surrogates make racist comments.
(2) When uproar develops, have them deny that their statements were racist.
(3) Accuse the other side of "playing the race card."
(4) Argue that, given the furor, "race is an issue that needs to be addressed."
(5) If MSM starts to talk about substantive issues again, repeat the cycle.

There you go again Nash - blaming Obomie's inability to connect with voters (no matter how you slice it more HAVE voted for her than HAVE voted for him...whether the Democratic Party chooses to count them or not) and answer reasonable policy questions w/o stuttering and stammering through his answers on Hillary.

Poor wittle Obomie doesn't know the answers so everyone is being mean.

The facts are the facts - as Craig laid them out on MoJo this morning to Andrea Mitchell...He doesn't have 2025 delegates and she doesn't have 2025 delegates. Neither will be able to get to 2025 delegates through the so called "pledged" delegate process. They will need the remaining delegates (super delegates) to get to the magic number. The superdelegates like the other delegates can vote however they darn well please - as Craig pointed out - thems the rules. You Obamaniacs are all about the rules unless they don't benefit you. Hey I think choosing delegates through caucus' is as undemocratic and unfair as letting superdelegates vote however they want...can we throw those out too?

[yawns]

Typical Whiny Obomie supporter to go right along with typical whiny Obomie.

Hey Nash, it is the white man half of Obama I don't like. It is too bad that Barbara Jordon is no longer with us. She was black and a woman and I would vote for her in a minute.

Ya know

Nash is starting to remind me of Max,

One point over and over and over.

Jack

"Primaries don't matter. Voters don't matter."

Ahhhh....but they do...Hillary's won more of both

;-)

NYT: Highest ranking black Democrat accuses Clintons of racism.

The third-ranking Democrat in the House of Representatives and one of the country’s most influential African-American leaders sharply criticized former President Bill Clinton this afternoon for what he called Mr. Clinton’s “bizarre” conduct during the Democratic primary campaign.

Representative James E. Clyburn, an undeclared superdelegate from South Carolina who is the Democratic whip in the House, said that “black people are incensed over all of this,” referring to statements that Mr. Clinton had made in the course of the heated race between his wife, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, and Senator Barack Obama.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/black-congressman-denounces-b-clintons-remarks/

"I don't understand why Andrea gets so angry when people are for Hillary."

That's interesting because I never get the impression that Craig is "for Hillary" - I believe he just analysis the facts as they sit in front of him in a logical and rational way w/o relying on the MSMs narrative of the day and w/o the typical spin. Of course, that would come out appearing to be "for" Clinton because facts and logic are on her side...LOL

;-)

Craig: Great listening to you on MSNBC today. The idea of Clinton challenging McCain to a debate is AWESOME. Thanks, once again, for thinking outside the talking heads box.

Would love to hear your thoughts on this article. Think everyone who cares about keeping McCain out of the White House should read this:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/anatole_kaletsky/article3803520.ece

Indiana, Obama drops from 5% to 1% ahead

North Carolina drops from 15% to 9% ahead
(I eliminated the 25% outlier)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/

Gallup Daily national narrows to 5%

http://www.gallup.com/poll/106801/Gallup-Daily-Democratic-Gap-Narrows-Obama-Keeps-Advantage.aspx

mornin' all.

Bye, bye, you ran across a rational thought to put in a comment? Be interesting to see that.

nash, I watched it and did not see anyone pushing "a black man can't win." If anything, the message is "this black man can't win." Apparently, his accolytes are beginning to believe that, and of course are blaming Bill and Hillary - so what else is new? They are now getting on the RWNM bandwagon. Well, I think he can win, and if he's the nominee, I think he will. At least we know what his followers will blame his loss on if it happens - racism and the Clintons.

Oh, here's a thought - maybe we could talk about something else. Anyone see the Dem commercial about McCain's delusional thinking? I thought it was excellent.

North Carolina drops from 15% to 9% ahead
(I eliminated the 25% outlier)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/

Posted by: Jamie | April 25, 2008 8:56 AM

Yup, that outlier being ppp, the only "poll" constantly showing Obama ahead by 3 in PA. Those guys are always right on the money. :)

Another trick from the Rove playbook.
Clinton uses negative push polling in SC.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-loeb/is-hillary-clinton-push-p_b_98446.html

Craig, you are so right! I think BOTH candidates should ignore each other and do the Rovian thing - act AS IF they have the nomination ala Dubbya picking and leaking his cabinet to the press before the Florida chad recount was over. Fait accompli! It's good to see you more on tv. I've been surfing the big 3 cable news shows looking for you forever. You're the best because you bring NEW info to the table every time instead of plagiarizing the pundits as they all do with each other. Snore.

Please address another issue. I think Reid and Pelosi want Hillary out because they're ticked that the donors to each campaign are keeping the campaigns alive instead of giving money to the massively ineffectual Howard Dean for the local contests. Not exactly Democratic, Nancy and Harry. I'm sick of the whining that the Dem Party is so weak and vulnerable. Their attitude not only spread that perception, it may cause it to come true. They need to support the process.
Thanks! Keep up the good work!
Margaret

Barack still takes in oil money:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-money24apr24,1,2328541.story?track=rss

Steve...

Keep defending Joe S. The same Joe S that said to Mica one day "don't make me give you the back of my hand". Yes Joe S. the sexist.

Has everyone noticed that Nash seldom reads others. He just rages and repeats his meme of the moment?

Nash, re Clyburn. See above your entry

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/04/hey-sen-clinton-ask-mccain-to.html#comment-72590

nash, kinda what jamie said - latest polls have Indiana within the MOE, SC was contested in Feb. - Obama's lead in NC has been cut in half in the past week, according to the polls. I'd say your comment reflects spin.

From HuffPo: MSM now backs Clinton.

In a blink of an eye, the media has jumped ship from the Obama campaign and become a crucial Clinton ally, pressing just the message -- that Obama is a likely loser in the general election -- that Hillary and her allies have been promoting for the past six weeks.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/24/media-jump-ship-from-obam_n_98545.html

Not only can't the Democrats win without the AA vote they also need the Independent Vote as well.

I want to see how all the Hillary supporters spin this when she loses the general to McCain if she drags this to the convention.

And if she damages Obama enough thinking she'll run to 2012 {That's still if we even have any more elections} she will not get the AA vote than either.

The Democratic Party will be no more.

Thanks Hillary for destroying the Democratic Party.

Better Debate:

Craig's suggested debate is interesting, but not likely to happen, so here's my suggestion. Craig debates Andrea Mitchell on the various likely outcomes of the Democrats nominating process and the quality of the media's election coverage so far, AND Hillary is the moderator.

If Andrea doesn't want to show up, Craig and Hillary can talk to her empty chair.

Nash,

This one I'll give you. I HATE push polls. If someone wants to call and tell me wonderful things about their candidate, that's fine, but to use the polling format is disgusting.

Next question, is the Obama team doing anything similar?

How about a cardboard stand-up of Andrea?

Clinton has the MSM and the GOP on her side.

Obama has the democratic primary voters.

We'll see who will prevail.

It' s just one of the those fascist propaganda vs democracy things.

Jamie what did you mean by "I eliminated the 25% outlier?"

Tom Cruise returning to Oprah!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080425/ap_en_mo/people_cruise_winfrey;_ylt=AkBMHNvmrjhDMjpLlQCvzI1xFb8C

Craig's appearance on MOJO is up on YouTube! Wahoo!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU0ElfBlGy8

Now really, assuming Clyburn is speaking for black folks - rather than just for himself - with Obama getting >90% of the black vote, how much can the black folks being incensed over what Bill said hurt Hillary?

And Steve, feel free to ignore ap - since you didn't mention Joe S, I really can't see how you could be accused of defending him.

anon-paranoid---------------------------------

"No Democrat can win the White House without the AA community. Looks like not only have the Clinton's lost the AA vote, but the Democratic Party may have also lost it for years to come.

Thank you Hillary for destroying the Democratic Party."

Superdelegates shouldn’t ignore the odds

"Which brings us to the forbidden issue of electability. Is it realistic to think that a gifted novice like Obama can win enough states to prevail in the Electoral College ? Among Democrats, it’s possible to avoid the question by crying racism, as Obama supporters did early and often.

Let’s talk demographics. Making himself the black candidate has definitely worked for Obama in the primaries. But the unfortunate fact is that most African American voters reside in states that Democrats either can’t win (the Deep South ) or almost can’t lose (New York, Illinois, California )."

http://www.nwanews.com/story.php?paper=adg§ion=Editorial&storyid=223629

Any news from Edwards if he is going to endorse anybody? If he waits to long it may not mean a thing. This weekend would be the best time for him to do so. If he does not endorse anybody, that shows me he's like the rest of the voters and is not sure which one is the best to beat McCain.

VAdaryl

Whenever you have a group of polls by a variety of pollsters, most of them cluster in the "reasonable" range. Every once in a while you will get one that because of methodology will come up with a number wildly different from the others.

You then have to decide if that pollster has a good previous track record and you should keep your eye on it in case they are on to something, or discount it because you don't trust the poll itself.

The "Outlier" in this case was 25% ahead was produced by PPP which has consistently been favorable and wrong towards Obama by 5 to 10 points so I discounted it, and just quoted the clustered polls.

Latest polls have Obama winning Indiana by a little, SC by a lot.

Spin that, Hillary people.

Posted by: nash | April 25, 2008 8:43 AM

Um, rip van winkle, either your webpage or your brain (or perhaps both) needs a bit of refreshing.

Although a revote in SC might be a grand idea!

PPP has been out to lunch in all their polls

Craig

No doubt that whenever you are added to the msnbc mix, you provide the most honest opinions, which as Ms. Mitchell's efforts by interrupting you illustrated, is not the game plan (particularly on msnbc). Later in the show, Mort Zuckerman was saying similar comments as you had & she did not interrupt him once!

Anyway, you are the best--all of us here know that & hope that at some point you will be recognized & rewarded with more time.

I'd like to point out a line that keeps cropping up--if the sd's were to deny a black man the nomination--it would "make Chicago 68 look like a walk in the park" said by Joe today, other versions of it have been stated by pundits as well--to me this implies a less than charitable opinion of obama supporters & a not so subtle attempt to intimidate the sd's in the event they are considering not voting for obama.

Craig did well this morning, just watched it

Jamie: I don't respond to schoolyard taunts. That is what I get from most of the Hillary people here.

When I make a critical comment about the Clintons I usually get something like, "Don't you have a school bus to catch?" (That was from ainnj, this AM)

How would you respond to that, Jamie? What would you say? I just ignore it.

I found surveyUSA poll numbers to be pretty close.

I loved how Andrea said under her breath, "Not my math" or "Not any math that I have done" to completely undermine Craig's point. The only math she has seen has been in the press releases from the Obama campaign, trust me.

When I make a critical comment about the Clintons I usually get something like, "Don't you have a school bus to catch?" (That was from ainnj, this AM)

How would you respond to that, Jamie? What would you say? I just ignore it.

Posted by: nash | April 25, 2008 9:37 AM

Perhaps if you posted something even close to resembling a mature rational argument for your candidate instead of claiming this is all about race you would be treated like a grownup.

Coreen

"if the sd's were to deny a black man the nomination--it would "make Chicago 68 look like a walk in the park""

I'm with you. Here they are supporting the first AA candidate with a real shot at the Presidency and what is the comment about if he doesn't get the nomination: "Those white kids and black folk will be rioting in the streets, throwing rocks, and shooting guns."

People saying such things might want to rethink how this reflects on the candidate.

Craig, like most of the MSM pundits, is now an overt Hillary supporter. (So much for objective journalism.)

But he's just waiting for the general election campaign so he can tilt towards McCain, who is the real media favorite.

Will you Hillary people follow along with him when he makes that transition?

"Not only can't the Democrats win without the AA vote they also need the Independent Vote as well."

AP, this is utter bullshit. You, or at least the Obama supporters here, have argued on one hand that NY and CA, along with the other big dem states that Hillary has won, will vote for whoever the dem nominee is - and rightly so I reckon, because NY, and CA to a lesser extent, and the other big dem states that Obama could not win are dem states. The swing states, your own state included, which is where the independent vote that is needed for a victory actually matters, were also won by Hillary - and Obama got 90+% of the black vote in them. Not to be considered taking the black vote for granted, but do you think the black vote is going to turn to the Republican party? Give em a frickin' break.

This is not the first time that the inference has been made regarding rioting in the streets if Obama doesn't get the nomination. I brought this up several weeks ago. I find those types of remarks racist and, quite frankly, a scare tactic all its own.

This user has many videos posted from MOJO this morning including the Barnicle interview and the Kerry Kennedy interview:

http://www.youtube.com/user/cancelledbysbc

Another Ms. Mitchell comment that not only suggested her bias "the sd's are there to ratify the will of the party", but illustrated her utter lack of knowledge of what she talks about. Craig's correcting of her left her as was said above as if she was sucking on a lemon.

Ally.... thanks for linking the utube of Craig's appearance this morning.....

I've been reading the comments and saying to myself... "rats!... of all mornings to sleep later than usual".....

now that I've seen it..... Craig.... you were spectacular!

and someone asked last night about what Lou Dobbs said..... I haven't watched cable news for months...... there was no ball game last night, so I watched CNN and caught the last half hour of Dobbs..... basically he was saying that the Democratic race was so close it was a virtual tie..... then he gave the NYTimes hell for trashing Clinton the day after her big win in PA even though the paper had endorsed her.....

he was pissed at what he saw as unfair coverage of Clinton by the media...
said he wanted the media to cover the race fairly..... his panel agreed that it looks like the media's "love fest" with Obama may be over.....

MSNBC has been in Obama's camp all along but I was shocked when Chris M said some nice things about Hillary.

Many states already appear to be in recession

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/STATE_FINANCES?SITE=WIFON&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Nash

I wouldn't lump people together. My comment was about the same issue that you mentioned quite a few posts below it. Instead of commenting or disputing you posted as if no one had noted it before. It was reflective of the fact that you don't seem to read others or carry on conversations, just plop in you opinion as if it were incontravertible fact and then depart until the next plop.

Bad Idea....Just because this campaign is bazaar doesn't mean it should become even more of a media circus. You talking heads are getting annoying. I even take Chris Mathews off now and as a political junkie that's a big deal!!!!!

Mr Crawford-
Your absence on Hardball is noticeable. I could tell you were not going to get too many invitations back after you started talking objectively about the Sen. Clinton. The Oboma campaign have outsourced their negative campaigning to MSNBC, namely Hardball & Countdown. Both shows I Tivoed but not anymore. It is ironic that they have become the very caricature of Fox that they loath…

I saw you on Morning Joe this morning and wanted to send this long over due email so bare with me.

I'm a 35 year old African American living in San Francisco. I don't associate myself with political parties because of their simplicity. But I like Ms Clinton and Obama. And Sen. McCain for that matter. I think Oboma holds promise as a great future leader of these United States. That said I think him having not been around on the national scene for very long makes him a risky candidate to top the ticket this time around. There are people in the middle of the country like those in PA who don't take too easily to strangers. They live close to the place they were born, love their god and their country with a passion. You have to be around for a while in the national scene before they worm up to you. I think with time Mr. Oboma's promise will be evident to this sector of the electorate. As a point in fact; this is the only argument needed by the Super delegates to vote for Ms Clinton. Not popular votes, not delegates counts, not states won. Just simply that with Hilary on top of the ticket and Oboma as VP we will win states like PA and OH going away. With Oboma on top of the ticket there is a serious chance that the Dems will loose to McCain.

The national Media acting as the Super of Super delegates think they can will Sen. Oboma into the white house. This is the folly of the people on the coasts like miself who went away to college and relish the avantgarde. We easily worm up strangers and think everyone should think and act like we do. Despite their best efforts Jackson Hole will never be Manhattan, and thank god for that. The Democratic Party will be ill served by their byass. With Senators Clinton and Oboma they have a chance to run the country for the next 16 years if they just don't bend to the Clinton haters in the MEDIA and blow it.

Finally on the issue of race; The 1st person to bring up race in this election cycle was Jessie Jackson Jr on MSNBC who subtly feed it to a brewing Chris Mathews, reeling after a disappointing Clinton victory in New Hampshire. The Oboma campaign has strategically injected race into the news cycle anytime there is a primary in the south. Is it a coincidence the Congressman clyborn is talking about race again now that the NC primary is afoot.

Ta for your time

There was some comments above about the Rev. Wright's soon to be seen moyers interview and the snippets played so far.

Craig commented that it "might help Obama if Wright can come across as more reasonable than those clips"

Cynic that I am, it would seem that the release of those snippets was intended to do just that---defuse any lasting wright effect against obama.

Coreen: Agreed on Andrea's SD comment. Craig definitely gave her the, "Are you crazy?" look.

No pogo...

They will either sit out or vote third party, maybe nader.

Top the morning

Craig,
Went flower shopping yesterday and by accident saw a plumbago - thought of you. So I purchased it. What beautiful blue flowers. Hope it works for me as the only place I have is a trellis/fence where it might not get enough sun. Old old trees in this neighborhood,a lot of shade.

ALso, I saw on politico a notation that Helen Thomas is receiving a shower of flowers, due to her questioning of Dana Perino ( Bush press secretary). Yes Helen is one of the best reporters around. She lets them have it full force.

Great idea of Hillary/McCain debate. I wish they would really approach it..

Julie

Thanks for your comments Mike!

Sigh. Nine more contests and then this whole Billary charade is over. No more lying. No more pantsuits. No more weird calculations. No more screechy speeches. In June, Barack will have all of the right metrics and Clinton will be trying to count votes from her NY Senate race. Billary will slink on back to the whole they crawled out of, bitter that the Democratic Party rejected a candidate that not only makes Republican skin crawl, but their own party members skin.

Oh, where did it all go wrong? Mark Penn? Mismanagement of campaign funds? Thinking that the race would be over in February? Bosniagate? Chronic liagra disease? Come on, you've got to think that Bill has been going to these small towns and getting numbers from the local townies. He's got to be anxious for Hillary to stop being high profile so he can make a "return visit", if you know what I mean.

Don't be sad Clintonites. I'm sure Billary will figure out a place to use all of that "35 years of experience". LOL

NEW DREAM TICKET

Hillary Clinton & Harold Ford Jr.

I think someone here mentioned that before-it's a win/win

nash, Thomas Edsall is a victim of selective reading. While there has been a shift from all positive coverage for Obama all the time in the msm, and (finally) questions being asked about his inevitability, even the Times continued trashing Hillary following PA, although apparently some of its writers have gotten off the Obama bandwagon. If anything, coverage is pretty evenhanded now - with Hillary 's chances to overcome Obama's pledged delegate advantage being questioned in all quarters, along with Obama's dimming gloss.

I love how you Clintonites take a liking to Harold Ford, Jr. It's the liberal version of "why can't all blacks be like him" that the conservatives use with Condi and Clarence. He doesn't threaten you. He doesn't have the "arrogance" that Obama has. I mean, the nerve of that black man challenging our white woman. What in the name of Geraldine Ferraro is happening? But Harold, he's so nice. Never seems to have any ambition. He's a nicer version of Obama. Not a meanie. Oh, I get the added bonus of being able to claim that I'm not a racist because I CAN find a black man I like.

AP

Nader has NEVER draw any AA vote percentage. They would vote Republican first.

Ah Pogo,

But the whole delegate game is over. As Rachel Madow continues to beat into the heads of her fellow commentators, these remaining primaries are a charade.

What's driving this is the media's desire to have more advertising money spent by the campaigns. Think Indiana and North Carolina media is happy about this charade? Millions in their pockets. So what the incentive to say that Hillary can't win? Not a damn thing. So for Obama supporters, we have to simply understand that while Billary are annoying, conniving and destructive, ultimately they're harmless. No one remembers the McCain v. Romney debates and by the convention, Billary will be as relevant as Gravel. And it will amaze people that they even were concerned about it.

Andrea Mitchell is living proof that botox indeed seeps into the brain.

AP, I can't see much of anyone - particularly blacks, to whom he doesn't pretend to appeal - voting for Nader. You could be right about them not going to the polls in the droves they might if Obama is the nominee, but there are larger blocs of voters that Obama has not attempted to appeal to who may do the same if Obama wins the nomination - old folks, women and the white working class, and to a lesser extent, Hispanics, just for example, and many of them just might vote reublican - they have done so before. So don't try and use that "can't win without the black vote" saw as if it's the only vote that wins elections for dems.

African Americans will sit out aggressively. See how Clinton wins Pennsylvania without black votes. It'll be the greatest magic trick ever.

And looking at history, I would think that you just might see African Americans in future elections splitting 60-40 toward the Dem, which is where they were during the Kennedy/Nixon election. This is one election where the line in the sand has been drawn. Take blacks for granted this election and steal the nomination from a black man, get ready for Pres. McCain.

Your comments were the most astute I have heard and read. Keep up the good work. Too bad that Keith Olbermann doesn't recognize your brilliance as a pundit. He has lost his credibility.

I used to believe Andrea Mitchell was an incredibly bright woman, but that view has changed greatly this poitical season. I have referenced this remark before, but the link was not available in March.

http://www.nmmagazine.com/50missing.php

Many defended Andrea's geographic compass, but c'mon folks, she is political expert and stares at a map of the US everyday. When you are in political theater, you need to know the stage.

Craig, I thought your suggestion that Hillary debate McCain was fantastic! As a matter of fact, when I read it, I literally got goosebumps on my arms—as opposed to a thrill up my leg. I hope the Clinton camp heeds your idea and makes the challenge. What a brilliant idea and a great post! Thank you!

Byebye, can someone be simultaneously destructive and harmless? You are apparently the lone Obama supporter who does not believe that Hillary is destroying Obama's ability to beat McCain. I will save this sentiment of yours to bring out in November if you change your tune an dblame Hillary if Obama loses in the general.

And did I argue delegates? If I said anything about them it was in passing. That's Obama argument. But since Rachel says it's over, it must be so. She's that one voice of truth - since she's echoing Axelrod.

re: Clinton debates McCain?

They'd probably spend 2/3 of the time trashing Obama, then they'd agree with each other on everything else.

Clinton, Channeling Rocky, Just Won't Quit: Margaret Carlson

"Clinton won by making herself the message: She will never stop fighting for you because look how she'll never stop fighting for herself. Talk to anyone who's run for office. It's almost impossible to get up day after day to face another 16 hours of backslapping supporters, mouthing inanities, finger pointing at some imaginary long-lost friend from childhood spotted in the crowd, embracing long-held beliefs (Nafta) or rejecting them (Nafta). And that's if you're winning. Try it when you're not.

Fighting is an especially potent message in Pennsylvania, with its towns of heartbreaking unemployment that Starbucks forgot because coffee is a luxury. In Scranton, Clinton won almost 80 percent of the vote. She won among weekly churchgoers (and temple-goers), white men, blue-collar workers, oldsters, Hispanics, everyone but the very young, the very educated and blacks. "

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_carlson&sid=aFNkgEkdK1Tw

And why not have Obama debate Huckabee?

This makes just as much sense as Clinton vs McCain.

Pogo

And as pointed out by Craig this morning. Sen. Obama does not have enough delegates to get the nomination. Neither candidate does. Once all the contests are over, each will have to make their case to the remaining Super Delegates as to who most reflects the will of the voting public. That means resolving Michigan and Florida, popular vote count, weight to be given to caucus vote counts, momentum ... all sorts of considerations.

Actually Nash, it should be Huckabee/Wright.

By the way, just sent an email to "Ask Andrea" wanting to know "why" Craig Crawford doesn't have his own show on her network.

"African Americans will sit out aggressively. See how Clinton wins Pennsylvania without black votes. It'll be the greatest magic trick ever. "

Posted by ByeByeBillary

You give African Americans much less credit than I do. Given the choice between voting for the nominee of the party that has and will pursue policy that benefits the lowest economic rung of the American economic ladder, where blacks are found disproportionately, or staying home and watching the party who has pursued policy that benefits the top rung of the American economic ladder, where blacks are disproportionately absent, be elected to continue to promote the policies that have to a great extent created that division, I'm betting that African Americans will vote their own interests. I am astounded at how little faith you have in black americans to put aside presumed personal affronts to Obama and vote in their own interests should Hillary pull off a miracle and win the nomination.

Julie and Amy are back on the Inevitable Obama bus. I swear MSNBC only brings on Craig for 15 minutes a week so they can say, "see we were balanced ... we gave her 15 minutes out of 7140

Other debates I'd like to see...
* Edwards vs Giuliani
* Bloomberg vs Thompson
* Nader vs Buchanan
* Ann Coulter vs the Pope
* Spiderman vs Dr. Octopus
* Entropy vs the Weak Nuclear Force

There is a very good reason I think the pundits who predict the Dems will lose in Nov. are wrong - and it is what we heard in '92 - it's the economy, stupid.

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/business/business-usa-economy-sentiment.html?hp

jamie - you're preaching to the choir - but you knew that.

Nash...you sound bitter. If your guy is winning and so well loved by everyone, you should be in a better mood.

The Weak Nuclear Force just played the race card.

Someone earlier said that they hoped for an Edwards endorsement before the week's out in order to influence Tuesday's primary in NC. I'm hoping he doesn't endorse anyone and holds onto his 23 or 26 delegates and uses them in Denver for the only endorsement that will count by then: naming the Democratic nominee. As Craig and others have correctly pointed out, neither candidate has a lock on the nomination and will not have it before Denver. So folks can use their statistics and data all they want right now but none of it really counts as the two wannabies will be virtually tied before Denver. It's been a long time since a brokered convention. The perfect storm for making it one is right now.

Pogo...I agree with you and even with people sitting home or revenge voting, the dems will prevail. HRC said it best to the audience in the LA debate -- on stage tonight is the next President of the United States. I remember that gave me more than a warm feeling down my leg.

Jamie------------------------------

The " LBs " control what we see and hear!

I'm not bitter. I'm rational.
Have some more Klinton Koolaid. (It's sweet.)

Jamie

Girl you misread the name. I am not an Obama fan.
I am a Clinton died in the wool yellow dog democrat.

Julie

Nah Pogo,

You're falling for the same "blacks will vote for us because they have nowhere else to go" type of thinking. Sorry, it ain't happening this year. Notice how all of the black Clinton surrogates have been the least effective surrogates in history? If she doesn't lose the black vote by 90 percent, she loses it by 95 percent. Well, they'll have absolutely no sway in turning out the black vote during a GE if Obama's not the candidate. Think I'm wrong. Go search YouTube and check out Sheila Jackson Lee's reception in her own district.

Nash..Go to time-out..

BBB