Craig on "Imus in the Morning" Tues (3/18) RFD-TV/WABC-AM 6:30 AM EST
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MSNBC and Air Obama (Air America ) are falling all over themselves trying to defend Senator Obama. This story is much bigger than I thought it would be. I think Obama's supporters are doing him much harm with their method of defending him...trashing America is not a good way to persuade voters that your candidate is the "new politics" who will bring America together.
Well, I'll be watching, but if O sweeps Pastorgate under the rug, it'll bite him. If you can catch John Kerry's explanation of Pastorgate on Imus's St. Paddy's Show on a podcast, check it out.
What Bear Stearns' Meltdown Means To You
ABC News | ALICE GOMSTYN | March 17, 2008 09:07 PM
Think the Bear Stearns meltdown isn't affecting you? You might want to check your investments before you answer.
Large mutual funds commonly found in 401(k) plans have invested hundreds of millions in the battered bank, which is being purchased by JPMorgan Chase for $2 a share -- a fraction of its price last week.
As Bear Stearns stock plunged and the financial market shuddered, these funds also saw declines.
"I'm sure there are people who don't realize how badly they're impacted indirectly," said James J. Holtzman, a financial planner with Legend Financial Advisors in Pittsburgh.
"Everybody's taking a hit today," he said. "It's not going to be a pretty day."
The good news for many investors is that most mutual funds that do hold Bear Stearns count the company's shares as only a miniscule portion of their total holdings
On Friday, the House of Representatives adopted H.R. 3733, the FISA Amendments Act. This carefully crafted legislation gives our intelligence agencies all the tools they need to protect our country and also protects our fundamental civil liberties.
But, even before we were to consider the bill, we held a rare closed session to discuss surveillance legislation in a classified setting in light of Republican claims that they had important secret information. But those claims turned out to be false. Even behind closed doors, the Republicans were unable to provide any information that would support the overreaching changes sought by the White House
Re: Obama's comments that he would try to explain the good Rev'rend as he is interpreted in the framework of the African-American church community. "It's a black thang, you won't understand."
Those Keurig coffee makers are really good, but not inexpensive. We use them at work & I got my mom one for Christmas. End of shameless product promotion.
This morning's Journal has the usual 'insightful' op-ed on Sen Obama. But, even more interesting is the Cubicle Culture column on mentoring and when mentoring goes bad: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120579975284443715.html
And, it's 7:15. Imus is still obsessing about Craig in the hot tub.
Craig, I'm Lovin your videos..Watched you on Imus..good job on throwing Ayers out there ..it really should have been in the media sooner. It really takes someone with guts to talk about this connection. Thanks I have waited for this to hit the media mainstream .
from Flatus' link:
"There are many reasons why you might want to ditch your mentor. Research has identified a typology of negative mentor behaviors that include sabotage, bullying, revenge-seeking and exploitation. Then there are those who mistake their own ancient successes for relevant advice."
for a classic case read Nietzsche Contra Wagner......
Bowmanc I hope you bought your mom a years' supply of coffee, as well.
Mrs Ohlfahrt would go berserk if I bought a machine that requiring those one-shot thingies--just too over-the-top.
We like the Melitta European Roast--less than $3 bucks a (real
vacuum sealed) can. Takes some practice getting the brewing technique down, but after that it's tasty (to us). We use one of the Braun brewers.
"Politically, the ramifications are clear: the GOP, which ought to lose the election big time this year because of an unpopular war, a despised president, a nominee (McCain) no one is enthusiastic about and an economic meltdown, can now defeat Obama in November. In fact, McCain could possibly crush Obama, precisely because of the hate seen in Wright’s sermons. When voters across the country see those videotapes, their blood will boil. Middle class whites, Jews, and Hispanics will desert the Democrats in droves.
The religious right - which does not particularly like McCain, will swarm to the polls to defeat Obama/Wright. Those votes will not be pro-McCain; they will be anti-Obama/Wright. But they count just the same.
Hillary may lose in November; but if she did, it would be a close race.
But in Barack Obama they may have found a candidate who could even take their party right over the edge."
Does Jim Cramer Shit In The Woods?
Via uggabugga, Jim Cramer on Bear Stearns last Tuesday, March 11, 2008:
READER MAIL: Should I be worried about Bear Stearns in terms of liquidity and get my money out of there?
CRAMER: No! No! No! Bear Stearns is fine. Do not take your money out. If there's one take away (other than this up 400 [day]) ... Bear Stearns is not in trouble. If anything they're more likely to be taken over. Don't move your money from Bear. That's just being silly! Don't be silly!
Said the Carrot Top of investotainment.
The brand new NY Governor David Paterson ackowledged that he had an affair years ago? Since he's legally blind , I am shocked to hear that he was seeing another woman.
the craptastic network is carrying the SPEECH live just as they did for Romney and Guiliani but couldn't even be bothered to report accurately Clinton's speech yesterday.
Todd just flat out lied. Review his posts on their website if you want to see a pitiful record of poor punditry. Not much he has ever suggested has happened.
Craig...something tells me Imus is going to be sending you more than a new coffee maker...when he sees this new video, of you using "409" on your sink, he might be sending you some "Greening the Cleaning" products!! 8)
Cramer said that he was referring to deposits not stock. All the depositors were totally made whole because of FDIC insurance. The stockholders are the ones who took a bath.
Jamie
He also said Bear Sterns would be ok
He is an idiot and also said Countrywide was a good stock to buy. If you followed his advice you would need a bail out of your own.
Sturg
I should just block msnbc on the remote. It just makes my bood pressure dangerously high.
Lush and Corey have the right idea -start the day with a
laugh.
I am disappointed that BHO is giving a speech... hell, I could read words off a teleprompter. I really wish he would have answered the questions, from the press, yesterday.
Obama pastor's theology: Destroy 'the white enemy'
"Barack Obama's suddenly radioactive pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has defended himself against charges of anti-Americanism and racism by referring to his foundational philosophy, the "black liberation theology" of scholars such as James Cone, who regard Jesus Christ as a "black messiah" and blacks as "the chosen people" who will only accept a god who assists their aim of destroying the "white enemy."
"If God is not for us and against white people," writes Cone, "then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill gods who do not belong to the black community.
What the black community wants, Cone says, is for God to assist in its goal of destroying "the white enemy."
Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago has removed from the "About Us" page of its website a section outlining its radical belief system for blacks."
(The Repub Attack/Smear machine would use this and much more against Obama in the GE. There is NO way Obama can distance himself from this - speeches will not stop the attacks.)
Cramer is liar if he is now trying to say he as talking about deposits
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Stocks discussed in the in-depth session of Jim Cramer’s Mad Money TV program, Tuesday March 11.
Mad Mail: Textron (TXT), Bear Stearns (BSC)
Although TXT is down from $70 to $50, Cramer likes Textron and is not worried about its financing. Cramer told one writer who was concerned about Bear Stearns; “No! No! No! Bear Stearns is not in trouble. If anything, they’re more likely to be taken over. Don’t move your money from Bear… Don’t be Silly”
On Friday it went from $50 to $30.
On Sunday it was worth $2.
UPDATE: This anti-Jim Cramer YouTube video is worth watching (at least the first half, but then it moves into Ron Paul terrory). It has the complete version of what Cramer said. Bear was trading for $63 at the time. It went this way:
READER MAIL: Should I be worried about Bear Stearns in terms of liquidity and get my money out of there?
CRAMER: No! No! No! Bear Stearns is fine. Do not take your money out. If there's one take away (other than this up 400 [day]) ... Bear Stearns is not in trouble. If anything they're more likely to be taken over. Don't move your money from Bear. That's just being silly! Don't be silly! http://uggabugga.blogspot.com/
kgc.....I had to finally "just say no".....it's a more peaceful world now.....that beady-eyed fool in the AM was upsetting my digestion, and the rest of those clowns were simply too dreadful for words......
re: spring cleaning. one truth you gotta contend with whenever you're doing your spring cleaning - political or otherwise - is that for something to get clean, say a sticky spot on the floor where somebody spilled gatorade, something else has to get dirty. dealing with the pastor's statements and the media's questions will only get more difficult with time.
" I am shocked to hear that he was seeing another woman."
He's still groping around for excuses.
P.S. In case anyone is offended. I read for the blind all the way through high school and college. If there is a totally tasteless blind joke, I've heard it ... from them. Courage usually has a dash of atrocious humor.
Gordo: " Repub Attack/Smear machine would use this "
Gordo -- STOP it! You know who you remind me of? Mika B on MSNBC....she says some snotty little thing that has an anti-Clinton undertone, like "Now who would this benefit?"
Then she rolls her eyes and says, "I'm just sayin'...."
Stop cutting and pasting the same stuff over and over. We KNOW this is a big problem for Obama. It probably has cost him the general and handed McCain the presidency. Newsmax and WorldNet don't need to tell us that.
I have a feeling the gop will downplay the pastor now, in order to sandbag him later with it......they'll flog it like they did when they turned Kerry into a lump nothing......
When Stinky and I went to the commissary last month, I was really pleased to spot Deirdre's window cleaner on the shelf. Just used it on the TV and computer screens. It worked just fine.
Only downside, that was the only Imus product I could find.
Bowman - interesting article. It is particularly interesting in light of the presentation of the two candidates and their potential ascendency tot he presidency. Last night, watching Mathews, I noticed that MSNBC was contrasting voter attitudes about the first viable black presidential candidate to voter attitudes about another Clinton presidency. Get the disconnect? It's not subtle. I am pretty sure that the comparison should be the first viable black presidential candidate and the first viable woman presidential candidate. (McCain would be the first viable crazy white codger presidential candidate - if it weren't for Reagan). btw, what you doing up at 4 o'clock on a weekday? Trying to get the green beer bed spins to stop?
I heard that Obama is planning to make a stump speech on race today. I thought he was the post racial candidate. Glad he's going to explain this to me. King, Jackson and Sharpton haven't done a good enough job.
Corey - he's only 90% blind, plus he may have been "seeing" her via the Braille method.
And we bought one of those one shot coffee makers - a Flavia - seemed like a good idea at the time since we drink maybe 2 cups at home before heading out to work. We got a Kitchaid that grinds the beans on cue in the morning - better coffee & cheaper, but there are those grounds. Notihng like being nudged from sleep by the soft roar of the grinder and the aroma of fresh coffee.
"We KNOW this is a big problem for Obama. It probably has cost him the general and handed McCain the presidency."
This is a BIG problem for Dems. Obama has probably destroyed the Dem Party. Hope all the Obama groupies are happy. They still want "CHANGE we can believe in" - they will get "Change we don't want."
"attitudes about the first viable black presidential candidate to voter attitudes about another Clinton presidency"
This is just the sort of "subliminal" stuff that drives the Clinton supporters absolutely nutso. Challenge MSNBC on it and you get the vapid Mika eye roll or the Matthews grin. Most people can't spot these things unless it is their ox being gored. When it is someone else, the words pass by but seep into their brain as an unspoken negative.
Slant is always the product of framing and adjectives.
I am kind of hoping they can't and it puts them all out of business.
In the late sixties and eary seventies I was involved or nearby for the growth in public access televison but I think the real spirit of public access is through the internet. I think of it as the early pamphleteers.
I really appreciate the ability to go on line and be able to fact check. I appreciate that people can look at the same set of facts and come to completely different conclusions What I hate is the lying. And a great deal of what passes for journalism today is lying.
I think McClatchy and Knight Ridder do a pretty good job. I think the Compost and the NYTimes are both pretty crappy --and were once both great.
My local paper was founded by members of the Confederacy that moved to California. It has not changed its editorial policy much. (And suffers from a complex of not being Napa.)
There's a 527 out there as we speak assembling 30 sec and 1 minute spots from the YouTube clips on the good reverend Wright and Obama. We'll see what magic he attempts in the stump speech, but absent a transcendent effort, he's got no credible denial on the issue IMHO. 20 years is too long a run to claim ignorance of Wright's views or to produce any credible spin that the black experience justifies 20 years of tolerance of anti American sentiment if you are running for president.
"Obama: I do think there is an overlap in the sense that there is a generational shift that is taking place and has constantly taken pace in our society. And Rev. Wright is somebody who came of age in the 60s. And so like a lot of African-American men of fierce intelligence coming up in the '60s he has a lot of the language and the memories and the baggage of those times. And I represent a different generation with just a different set of life experiences, and so see race relations in just a different set of terms than he does, as does Otis Moss, who is slightly younger than me. And so the question then for me becomes what's my relationship to that past?
You know, I can completely just disown it and say I don't understand it, but I do understand it. I understand the context with which he developed his views but also can still reject unequivocally. . .
Tribune: You reject his views, you won't reject the man. Is that it?
Obama: Yeah, exactly. And this is where the connection comes in. I mean, I do think that Geraldine Ferraro, the lens through which she looks at race, is different. . . . She's grown up in different times. The Queens that she grew up in is, I'm sure, a different place than it was then. Just as Chicago is a different place than it was then.
Dear Craig:
You are adorable in your lates video those adorable piercing blue eyes.
But Craig honestly please tell me you don't use 409 to clean the sink lol. Men are so cute when they play housekeeper, but usually they get it all wrong lol
It would be my pleasure to show you the right way :-)
Sincerely,
Heather
"And we bought one of those one shot coffee makers - a Flavia - seemed like a good idea at the time since we drink maybe 2 cups at home before heading out to work."
I have a Flavia at home and at work and I love them. I'm the only one who drinks coffee and it costs me $0.40 per cup as compared to nearly $2 if I stop at the Starbucks. If I made a whole pot of coffee...that would be wasteful too and then you have to clean the coffee pot - plus the Flavia has a modern design compared to other coffee makers which my partner likes.
Wow...I just realized that USC is the 6th seed in the tournament...I CAN'T believe it...you see I don't pay as much attention to b-ball as I do football. Good for the guys!
I don't know how many of you caught Abrams last night but my belief is the Rezko thing is just getting started. The media smells fear from the Obama campaign and me thinks they are now going to start digging a little deeper into this story. Obama will really need to hit one out of the park today with this speech because personally I thought the media appearances on Friday were a tiny bit lame.
I know the Chicago Tribune stood by its endorsement after Obama sat down with them on Friday but I get the feeling that the Wright issue is merely a distraction from the bigger issue of Antoin Rezko (and his very shady connections.)
This is just my opinion...call it a feeling running up my leg.
From the article dog posted: ""I'm going to be talking not just about Rev. Wright, but about the larger issue of race in the campaign, which has just ramped up over the last few weeks," Obama told reporters yesterday after a town-hall forum in this Pittsburgh suburb."
Translation (just as KGC and others have noted): I never heard Rev Wright say anything at any time, and even if I did, it shouldn't matter that I lied about it because I am all about hope and change. Anyway, this whole mess is Bill and Hillary Clinton's fault for knowing that old racist Geraldine Ferraro, who is a baby boomer bitch and thereby not worthy of saying the same thing I've said on occasion.
Oprah has not commented. News reports say she did belong to the Church in around 1984 but later dropped out and allegedly Rev Wight attacked her for leaving.
Translation (just as KGC and others have noted): I never heard Rev Wright say anything at any time, and even if I did, it shouldn't matter that I lied about it because I am all about hope and change. Anyway, this whole mess is Bill and Hillary Clinton's fault for knowing that old racist Geraldine Ferraro, who is a baby boomer bitch and thereby not worthy of saying the same thing I've said on occasion.
Most politicians get into trouble because they don't have real core beliefs that they don't mind the world seeing. They are a product of spin and slogans.
The best ones who do have a core (or have learned how to fake one) speak about and answer all questions thrown at them almost without thinking. Their beliefs and ideas are just part of their DNA - much like the conversations we have in here.
The others have the long pause, the measured answer, the stall, the reworded explanation after the original response complete with talking points, and finally if it all starts going south the grand public statement.
We will have to see which one Sen. Obama produces today.
Obama speech at 10:15 a. Good to know about streaming video; it seems C-Span's morning schedule is flexible enough to air it. (Washington Journal over at 10; Supreme Court at 11:30.)
Wendy! I really am not down on Flavia. I liked it for a long time - but now that we take go cups to drink on the way to work so that we won't be accused of driving without distraction (as if the cell phones aren't enough) the new coffee maker is as easy and makes just enough for the home/trip cups. Plus, I have come to love that whrrrrr/sniff/ahhhhh experience again. And while Flavia coffee really is good - with the addition of the aroma, there is just something about freshly ground coffee that the single cuppers just can't compete with. (If you don't get your coffee at CoffeeGiant.com, check their prices out). Different strokes as they say. And as for Starbucks (Fourbucks as Mrs' Pogo's aunt used to refer to it), no thanks - beer's cheaper.
vadaryl is in FL? For some unexplainable reason, I thought he was in VA.
Clinton cannot win the popular votes nor the pledged delegates.
In classical Clintonian fashion, the new criteria is "electabilility".
At the rate events are evolving, the Dems will go into November a bitterly divided party.
The compromise candidate option will be the only way Dems can win the Presidency.
So much for first black or first woman President.
That dream is gone , gone ,gone.
What I fear is Obama has been drinking the Afrocentric koolaid too long to realize how out of the mainstream some of their ideas appear to suburban middle class people of all races.
The reason I have this fear is the Reverend Wrights beliefs were obviously going to be a problem. I pointed this out when I first came in here a couple of months back. Yet nobody in the Obama camp has devised a strategy to deal with it.
The time to deal with all of this was 6 months ago.
I doubt if any speach about race will alieve the concerns of the people out in the suburbs, who count in this election.
I am very curious how he will deal with this problem. he has not done very well so far.
yes, Ross Perot got Clinton elected and Nixon's skullduggery got Carter elected......I'd like to win one outright for a change........it wont be with mr obama that democrats win.
You are right that the aftermath will decide. At some point within about 72 hours all of the reactions and spin patrol will have been done and the first "post speech" polls will be out. Whether he managed to pull the fat out of the fire or has been irrevocably damaged will be pretty clear.
Well Pogo - I can't argue with you about the aroma and sound of brewing coffee...but there is also something to be said about peace with my partner over the aesthetic beauty of the machine...all about knowing what's important...I'm sure you know what I mean.
Sturgeone
The dream has evaporated.
Not Clinton ,not Obama.
If dems want to win in November , it will be with a compromise canididate.
The supporters in both camps are hardening their positions.
Obama will not get Clinton base and Clinton will not get the majority of the Obama base.
Talk about self destruction.
I thought I missed Obama's speech based on one of KGC's posts.....
I really hope he does well..... I want the Democrats to win....
gonna watch it on CNN..... as I'm sure MSNBC's analysis will be laughable as usual.....
vadaryl..... I'm jealous..... we've had a lot of snow melt here in NH over the last week..... and yet it's still over 2 ft deep......
Jack: I am with you on a point: they had to know that Rev. Wright's sermons would get out, and would not play well when they did. Also that some were perfect for short clips of only incendiary rhetoric.
Obama was not well known on national stage; that's why the "Obama is a Muslim" email smears gained such traction in some quarters. They were filling a void with misinformation.
Rev. Wright is much more than the unacceptable rhetoric in his sermons -- he has a lot of good points too and has done a lot in and for his community, and it probably would have been better to introduce him in some fashion so that at least there would not be a vaccuum of no information in which to toss these youtubes.
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Jamie: weeks until next primary and Easter intervening. So next 72 hours may just tell you about next 72 hours.
It will be interesting to see the first quarter fundraising reports, and whether Obama experiences a dropoff.
KGC: Pennsylvania was always going to be hard. And Obama has done well in rural areas. He might be able to keep the loss margin relatively low.
Driving down to FL from VA Friday night and listening to the different talk show hosts the pastor was the number 1 topic. Some of the hosts were BHO fans up until they heard about the pastor sermon's and they were not so sure now. They wanted to hear more from him, well they may get their wish at 10. Then it would be interesting to hear them tonight.
Most voters, 56%, said Wright’s comments made them less likely to vote for Obama. That figure includes 44% of Democrats. Just 11% of voters say they are more likely to vote for Obama because of Wright’s comments.
However, among African-Americans, 29% said Wright’s comments made them more likely to support Obama. Just 18% said the opposite while 50% said Wright’s comments would have no impact.
Overall, voters are evenly divided as to whether Obama should resign his membership in the Church—42% say that he should while 40% disagree. White voters, by a 46% to 33% margin, say that Obama should leave the Church. African-American voters, by a 68% to 16% margin, say he should not. Wright retired last month as Pastor of the Church.
Marine
30 year career
older generation
uncle
mentor
do not share beliefs
Time to move on
no black america or white america only one america
Change
Turn The page
Wendy! I do know what you mean about the asthetics of the machine. They do make a pretty coffee maker.
VAD - have a good vacation - what part of one of my favorite vacation destinations are you visiting? Oh, and wrt the upcoming "race" speech, as with many of his other stump speeches, as Firesign Theatre said "Pretty words, but what do they mean?" Maybe he'll disappoint and say something that seems to actually have meaning.
I hope you aren't suggesting that's Hillary's fault?
By the way, a lot has been made of the "timing" of this. Obviosly it wasn't a Clinton conspiracy because it's too late to do her much good. So why would the wingers do this now? I think they see more advantage in jacking up a potential Dem fight about electibility that stretches into convention time. I think they would love nothing more than seeing something akin to a race riot break out in Denver. I think they believe they can destroy the party, while placing blame on Hillary for not just giving up her campaign and handing the nomination to the dream candidate. And they may be right.
Pogo - my partner doesn't like anything to sit on the counters in the kitchen. She likes modern design (as do I) and thinks coffeemakers are eye sores. The cool curves of the Flavia have silenced her complaints. That makes me happy. Also...has a small footprint...
kc, your poll link above got me thinking I needed to look at the NC polls to see what appears to be happening there. Looks like after Clinton lost her lead of from almost 20 pts in the fall, Obama surged out to a lead of 10-15 in Feb, which has dropped to 4-9 now. NC moving toward the MOE and is not a given for Obama at this point.
And we now have 1st and 2nd amendment cases coming before the Supreme Court to let us know what we will be reaping from the judicial crop sown by Dumya.
Diva
This is a racial attack on Obama.
It is an "Oh look a scary black man " attack.
Look at the above quote by an ABC reporter. ABC ran a hit job that they got from a Republican operative. They didn't even bother to edit it or add any contrary video.
How do you know that Reverend Wright preaches hate? Did you view the whole sermon?
Folks if you use the right wing talking points they win. If you use their languge then they win
Quit being fools.
KGC
The game is much bigger than your petty little bickering.
You are playing into the hands of the right wing Republicans.
As I said quit being a fool.
Jack
My understanding is that there is a large white component at that UCC church. Certainly there are many both black and white that believe the towers came down courtesy of implosions. There is an element of racial hatred within the black community that is just as viral as that within the white community. I don't know why so many whites are amazed that hate is a two way street.
Now I've never heard any language like that in a black church. I have heard hatred in one of those White Megachurches, Had to go to that service, but never crossed that threshhold again.
It is Sen Obama's relationship with this particular church and this particular minister that I find disturbing.
That 4AM thing. Must have started when I was a kid, early morning paper route, slept late as a teen & college but back to haunt me as I age. Then again it might have been all those years of trying to beat the nasty morning commute on Rt 3 & 495 coming out of NH into Mass.
Patsi
Once Edwards withdrew from the race , the risk of a gender/race war increased dramatically.
We are seeing the manifestation now of that war.
Attributing blame is counterproductive.
Clinton ,Obama and their supporters are so invested in the slugfest that they cannot see the damage.
The damage will only be evident when the victor emerges and survey the landscape.
"That 4AM thing" With me it was the hour before having to get children up, dressed, and off to school for them and work for me. It was MY hour that preserved sanity when I could sip coffee, read, fully wake before the rat race started. Now it's an ingrained habit that I can't shake.
"Hell, I even read Willie Nelson thinks the towers were impolded. He must be smoking too much Willie weed. "
Bow! Say it ain't so! Maybe he's spent too much time with Skinny Dennis....I always suspected that one of the real reasons those two get along is that they both love polka.
Rev Jeremiah Wright, is Senator Hillary Clinton's Proxy Doxy. The Clintons still using racism to scare the white people, look Obama's Pastor is controversial heres the thing, this isn't news it isn't even new...so what is the point of hyping this story in the media now? Obama's ahead. Clinton's can't attack Obama out in the open - straight forward so they use a surrogate a proxy to attack just replace Obama with Wright. This isn't exactly subtle. The Clintons are supposed to be such staunch Civil Rights defenders and look at the tactics they have used Bill Clinton's Fairy Tale comment, the South Carolina comment, oh and Geraldine Ferraro telling us all how luck Obama is because he is where he is because he is black. It doesn't appear that the Clinton's have a bottom just like Imus has mentioned on more then one occasion.
Ree: If this Clintons wanted to expose Jeremiah Wright, they would not have waited until Obama has a delegate lead that Clinton cannot catch. Give me a break. ABC News broke the story. Nuff said.
Nancy Giles says something true: Blacks are not some monolithic, all think alike mass anymore than ALL whites think alike. Then she says something stupid such as Geraldine Ferraro's remark was the product of hate. I could have sworn it was an acknowledgement of reality and a repeat of something Sen Obama had said about himself.
damn...I started with my own private drinking game 53 minutes ago...I may have to do a liquor store run for more sambuca...or switch to kahlua...LOLOL(hiccup)LOLOLOL!!!
I read the speech over at HuffPo (exception to the no HuffGoBamaPo rule). It's a good speech, I agree with most of it, but whether it will do anything to tamp down the flames is anyone's guess.
"I find him arrogant, pretentious and manipulative. I also now believe he's more comfortable with pretending than with the truth, and I think this speech embodies all those concerns."
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MSNBC and Air Obama (Air America ) are falling all over themselves trying to defend Senator Obama. This story is much bigger than I thought it would be. I think Obama's supporters are doing him much harm with their method of defending him...trashing America is not a good way to persuade voters that your candidate is the "new politics" who will bring America together.
Posted by: Oregon Democrat | March 18, 2008 2:20 AM
Well, I'll be watching, but if O sweeps Pastorgate under the rug, it'll bite him. If you can catch John Kerry's explanation of Pastorgate on Imus's St. Paddy's Show on a podcast, check it out.
Posted by: Dexter
| March 18, 2008 2:50 AM
A psychological/sociological take on Obama's popularity and his electability problem. You may not agree but it is worth reading and thinking about.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120579535818243439.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
The Obama Bargain
By SHELBY STEELE
March 18, 2008; Page A23
Posted by: Bowmanc | March 18, 2008 4:24 AM
What Bear Stearns' Meltdown Means To You
ABC News | ALICE GOMSTYN | March 17, 2008 09:07 PM
Think the Bear Stearns meltdown isn't affecting you? You might want to check your investments before you answer.
Large mutual funds commonly found in 401(k) plans have invested hundreds of millions in the battered bank, which is being purchased by JPMorgan Chase for $2 a share -- a fraction of its price last week.
As Bear Stearns stock plunged and the financial market shuddered, these funds also saw declines.
"I'm sure there are people who don't realize how badly they're impacted indirectly," said James J. Holtzman, a financial planner with Legend Financial Advisors in Pittsburgh.
"Everybody's taking a hit today," he said. "It's not going to be a pretty day."
The good news for many investors is that most mutual funds that do hold Bear Stearns count the company's shares as only a miniscule portion of their total holdings
Posted by: Sheila Hussein the Chef Nun | March 18, 2008 5:13 AM
The FISA Amendments Act: Protecting Our Country and Civil Liberties
By Rep. Jerrold Nadler
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jerrold-nadler/the-fisa-amendments-act-_b_92020.html
On Friday, the House of Representatives adopted H.R. 3733, the FISA Amendments Act. This carefully crafted legislation gives our intelligence agencies all the tools they need to protect our country and also protects our fundamental civil liberties.
But, even before we were to consider the bill, we held a rare closed session to discuss surveillance legislation in a classified setting in light of Republican claims that they had important secret information. But those claims turned out to be false. Even behind closed doors, the Republicans were unable to provide any information that would support the overreaching changes sought by the White House
Posted by: Sheila Hussein the Chef Nun | March 18, 2008 5:18 AM
Thought I would add a little clarity to the discussion. Have a nice day!
Posted by: Sheila Hussein the Chef Nun | March 18, 2008 5:24 AM
Can tell no coffee yet.
Craig, I liked the video. ;0) You can take a little subject like this and make an imaginative clip. good work!
Posted by: Sheila Hussein the Chef Nun | March 18, 2008 5:27 AM
scrap that old Tassimo, there's a new kid in town......lol
Posted by: sturgeone | March 18, 2008 6:51 AM
Re: Obama's comments that he would try to explain the good Rev'rend as he is interpreted in the framework of the African-American church community. "It's a black thang, you won't understand."
Posted by: Divalicias | March 18, 2008 6:53 AM
yeah, and i was so attached to my Tassimo, sturgeone. guess every time I-Man gets fired we gotta switch coffee machines
Posted by: Craig Crawford
| March 18, 2008 6:59 AM
the I-man's been a little lax in sending out the new edition? he needs to prime the pump......
Posted by: sturgeone | March 18, 2008 7:01 AM
Those Keurig coffee makers are really good, but not inexpensive. We use them at work & I got my mom one for Christmas. End of shameless product promotion.
Posted by: Bowmanc | March 18, 2008 7:14 AM
This morning's Journal has the usual 'insightful' op-ed on Sen Obama. But, even more interesting is the Cubicle Culture column on mentoring and when mentoring goes bad:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120579975284443715.html
And, it's 7:15. Imus is still obsessing about Craig in the hot tub.
Posted by: Flatus
| March 18, 2008 7:15 AM
Craig, I'm Lovin your videos..Watched you on Imus..good job on throwing Ayers out there ..it really should have been in the media sooner. It really takes someone with guts to talk about this connection. Thanks I have waited for this to hit the media mainstream .
Posted by: Tan | March 18, 2008 7:21 AM
from Flatus' link:
"There are many reasons why you might want to ditch your mentor. Research has identified a typology of negative mentor behaviors that include sabotage, bullying, revenge-seeking and exploitation. Then there are those who mistake their own ancient successes for relevant advice."
for a classic case read Nietzsche Contra Wagner......
Posted by: sturgeone | March 18, 2008 7:24 AM
Bowmanc I hope you bought your mom a years' supply of coffee, as well.
Mrs Ohlfahrt would go berserk if I bought a machine that requiring those one-shot thingies--just too over-the-top.
We like the Melitta European Roast--less than $3 bucks a (real
vacuum sealed) can. Takes some practice getting the brewing technique down, but after that it's tasty (to us). We use one of the Braun brewers.
Posted by: Flatus
| March 18, 2008 7:30 AM
Rev. Wright Damages Obama's Chances
"Politically, the ramifications are clear: the GOP, which ought to lose the election big time this year because of an unpopular war, a despised president, a nominee (McCain) no one is enthusiastic about and an economic meltdown, can now defeat Obama in November. In fact, McCain could possibly crush Obama, precisely because of the hate seen in Wright’s sermons. When voters across the country see those videotapes, their blood will boil. Middle class whites, Jews, and Hispanics will desert the Democrats in droves.
The religious right - which does not particularly like McCain, will swarm to the polls to defeat Obama/Wright. Those votes will not be pro-McCain; they will be anti-Obama/Wright. But they count just the same.
Hillary may lose in November; but if she did, it would be a close race.
But in Barack Obama they may have found a candidate who could even take their party right over the edge."
(Yes, I know it is Newsmax)
http://newsmax.com/john_leboutillier/obama_wright/2008/03/17/81088.html
Posted by: GORDO | March 18, 2008 7:39 AM
Monday, March 17, 2008
Does Jim Cramer Shit In The Woods?
Via uggabugga, Jim Cramer on Bear Stearns last Tuesday, March 11, 2008:
READER MAIL: Should I be worried about Bear Stearns in terms of liquidity and get my money out of there?
CRAMER: No! No! No! Bear Stearns is fine. Do not take your money out. If there's one take away (other than this up 400 [day]) ... Bear Stearns is not in trouble. If anything they're more likely to be taken over. Don't move your money from Bear. That's just being silly! Don't be silly!
Said the Carrot Top of investotainment.
Dude picked the wrong Administration to give up coke.
http://www.rogerailes.blogspot.com/
the good roger ailes not the ff that works for evil
more great work from NBC
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 7:41 AM
The brand new NY Governor David Paterson ackowledged that he had an affair years ago? Since he's legally blind , I am shocked to hear that he was seeing another woman.
Posted by: Corey
| March 18, 2008 7:48 AM
Chuck Todd just gave the defense of Obama
this morningload is all Obama all the time
the craptastic network is carrying the SPEECH live just as they did for Romney and Guiliani but couldn't even be bothered to report accurately Clinton's speech yesterday.
Todd just flat out lied. Review his posts on their website if you want to see a pitiful record of poor punditry. Not much he has ever suggested has happened.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 7:56 AM
LMAO @ Corey's comment!!
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| March 18, 2008 7:59 AM
Corey.....lol.......it might have been braille?
Posted by: sturgeone | March 18, 2008 8:01 AM
Craig...something tells me Imus is going to be sending you more than a new coffee maker...when he sees this new video, of you using "409" on your sink, he might be sending you some "Greening the Cleaning" products!! 8)
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| March 18, 2008 8:02 AM
msnbc's only saving grace is that so few people actually see it......
Posted by: sturgeone | March 18, 2008 8:02 AM
KGC
Cramer said that he was referring to deposits not stock. All the depositors were totally made whole because of FDIC insurance. The stockholders are the ones who took a bath.
Posted by: Jamie
| March 18, 2008 8:05 AM
Jamie
He also said Bear Sterns would be ok
He is an idiot and also said Countrywide was a good stock to buy. If you followed his advice you would need a bail out of your own.
Sturg
I should just block msnbc on the remote. It just makes my bood pressure dangerously high.
Lush and Corey have the right idea -start the day with a
laugh.
Craig
Another winner.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 8:11 AM
I am disappointed that BHO is giving a speech... hell, I could read words off a teleprompter. I really wish he would have answered the questions, from the press, yesterday.
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| March 18, 2008 8:12 AM
Obama pastor's theology: Destroy 'the white enemy'
"Barack Obama's suddenly radioactive pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has defended himself against charges of anti-Americanism and racism by referring to his foundational philosophy, the "black liberation theology" of scholars such as James Cone, who regard Jesus Christ as a "black messiah" and blacks as "the chosen people" who will only accept a god who assists their aim of destroying the "white enemy."
"If God is not for us and against white people," writes Cone, "then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill gods who do not belong to the black community.
What the black community wants, Cone says, is for God to assist in its goal of destroying "the white enemy."
Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago has removed from the "About Us" page of its website a section outlining its radical belief system for blacks."
(Yes, I know it is WND)
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59230
(The Repub Attack/Smear machine would use this and much more against Obama in the GE. There is NO way Obama can distance himself from this - speeches will not stop the attacks.)
Posted by: GORDO | March 18, 2008 8:14 AM
Jamie
Cramer is liar if he is now trying to say he as talking about deposits
"
Stocks discussed in the in-depth session of Jim Cramer’s Mad Money TV program, Tuesday March 11.
Mad Mail: Textron (TXT), Bear Stearns (BSC)
Although TXT is down from $70 to $50, Cramer likes Textron and is not worried about its financing. Cramer told one writer who was concerned about Bear Stearns; “No! No! No! Bear Stearns is not in trouble. If anything, they’re more likely to be taken over. Don’t move your money from Bear… Don’t be Silly”
On Friday it went from $50 to $30.
On Sunday it was worth $2.
UPDATE: This anti-Jim Cramer YouTube video is worth watching (at least the first half, but then it moves into Ron Paul terrory). It has the complete version of what Cramer said. Bear was trading for $63 at the time. It went this way:
READER MAIL: Should I be worried about Bear Stearns in terms of liquidity and get my money out of there?
CRAMER: No! No! No! Bear Stearns is fine. Do not take your money out. If there's one take away (other than this up 400 [day]) ... Bear Stearns is not in trouble. If anything they're more likely to be taken over. Don't move your money from Bear. That's just being silly! Don't be silly!
http://uggabugga.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 8:14 AM
good morning gang....
Craig..... LOL!..... so what are we to make of that broom..... are you telling us you're a warlock..... nice kitchen.... but boooooring place mats....
what?!.... Obama gave his speech already..... I missed it.... I missed Craig on Imus too..... oh well.....
time for another cup of coffee..... the first one hasn't kicked in yet....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee | March 18, 2008 8:15 AM
kgc.....I had to finally "just say no".....it's a more peaceful world now.....that beady-eyed fool in the AM was upsetting my digestion, and the rest of those clowns were simply too dreadful for words......
Posted by: sturgeone | March 18, 2008 8:16 AM
shit..... I almost forgot....
((((((((((((Corey)))))))))))))))
hope you're feeling better....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee | March 18, 2008 8:16 AM
"I am disappointed that BHO is giving a speech..."
One more cow.
One more Checkers Speech.
Posted by: Patsi | March 18, 2008 8:16 AM
KGC
I didn't say I believed him. That was just the story he was telling.
Posted by: Jamie
| March 18, 2008 8:19 AM
re: spring cleaning. one truth you gotta contend with whenever you're doing your spring cleaning - political or otherwise - is that for something to get clean, say a sticky spot on the floor where somebody spilled gatorade, something else has to get dirty. dealing with the pastor's statements and the media's questions will only get more difficult with time.
Posted by: Mary Kitt-Neel
| March 18, 2008 8:21 AM
" I am shocked to hear that he was seeing another woman."
He's still groping around for excuses.
P.S. In case anyone is offended. I read for the blind all the way through high school and college. If there is a totally tasteless blind joke, I've heard it ... from them. Courage usually has a dash of atrocious humor.
Posted by: Jamie
| March 18, 2008 8:22 AM
Gordo: " Repub Attack/Smear machine would use this "
Gordo -- STOP it! You know who you remind me of? Mika B on MSNBC....she says some snotty little thing that has an anti-Clinton undertone, like "Now who would this benefit?"
Then she rolls her eyes and says, "I'm just sayin'...."
Stop cutting and pasting the same stuff over and over. We KNOW this is a big problem for Obama. It probably has cost him the general and handed McCain the presidency. Newsmax and WorldNet don't need to tell us that.
Posted by: Patsi | March 18, 2008 8:22 AM
I have a feeling the gop will downplay the pastor now, in order to sandbag him later with it......they'll flog it like they did when they turned Kerry into a lump nothing......
Posted by: sturgeone | March 18, 2008 8:23 AM
Jamie
You were right not to believe him. NBC and its journalists(sic) are believers in the big lie technique.
How can he try to pretend he was talking about deposits when it is clear from the transcript he was talking about the stock.?
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 8:23 AM
Good Morning, Craig Everyone
Be with you in a few minutes after I drive my daughter to School and breakfast
morning rush lol
Sincerely,
Heather
Posted by: Heather
| March 18, 2008 8:29 AM
When Stinky and I went to the commissary last month, I was really pleased to spot Deirdre's window cleaner on the shelf. Just used it on the TV and computer screens. It worked just fine.
Only downside, that was the only Imus product I could find.
Posted by: Flatus
| March 18, 2008 8:32 AM
Craig:
OK - I'll admit it - you're spring cleaning analogy was better than my throw up analogy.
Posted by: Wendy!
| March 18, 2008 8:34 AM
mornin' all.
Bowman - interesting article. It is particularly interesting in light of the presentation of the two candidates and their potential ascendency tot he presidency. Last night, watching Mathews, I noticed that MSNBC was contrasting voter attitudes about the first viable black presidential candidate to voter attitudes about another Clinton presidency. Get the disconnect? It's not subtle. I am pretty sure that the comparison should be the first viable black presidential candidate and the first viable woman presidential candidate. (McCain would be the first viable crazy white codger presidential candidate - if it weren't for Reagan). btw, what you doing up at 4 o'clock on a weekday? Trying to get the green beer bed spins to stop?
I heard that Obama is planning to make a stump speech on race today. I thought he was the post racial candidate. Glad he's going to explain this to me. King, Jackson and Sharpton haven't done a good enough job.
Corey - he's only 90% blind, plus he may have been "seeing" her via the Braille method.
And we bought one of those one shot coffee makers - a Flavia - seemed like a good idea at the time since we drink maybe 2 cups at home before heading out to work. We got a Kitchaid that grinds the beans on cue in the morning - better coffee & cheaper, but there are those grounds. Notihng like being nudged from sleep by the soft roar of the grinder and the aroma of fresh coffee.
Posted by: pogo bin agogo | March 18, 2008 8:36 AM
Craig in your video there appears to be a bust on top of one of the cabinets. If so, who is it of??
Posted by: Flatus
| March 18, 2008 8:36 AM
We might get the gover
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 8:37 AM
We might get the government we deserve.
We do not get the journalism we deserve.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 8:38 AM
Patsi ----------------------
"We KNOW this is a big problem for Obama. It probably has cost him the general and handed McCain the presidency."
This is a BIG problem for Dems. Obama has probably destroyed the Dem Party. Hope all the Obama groupies are happy. They still want "CHANGE we can believe in" - they will get "Change we don't want."
Posted by: GORDO | March 18, 2008 8:40 AM
KGC, how in the world can a daily journalist compete with blogs?
Posted by: Flatus
| March 18, 2008 8:40 AM
The only consistently topnotch journalism I see is in the Economist. They don't pander.
http://www.economist.com/
Posted by: Flatus
| March 18, 2008 8:43 AM
"attitudes about the first viable black presidential candidate to voter attitudes about another Clinton presidency"
This is just the sort of "subliminal" stuff that drives the Clinton supporters absolutely nutso. Challenge MSNBC on it and you get the vapid Mika eye roll or the Matthews grin. Most people can't spot these things unless it is their ox being gored. When it is someone else, the words pass by but seep into their brain as an unspoken negative.
Slant is always the product of framing and adjectives.
Posted by: Jamie
| March 18, 2008 8:48 AM
well, goper monica crowley isnt laying low on flaying obama.....
Posted by: sturgeone | March 18, 2008 8:49 AM
Flatus
I am kind of hoping they can't and it puts them all out of business.
In the late sixties and eary seventies I was involved or nearby for the growth in public access televison but I think the real spirit of public access is through the internet. I think of it as the early pamphleteers.
I really appreciate the ability to go on line and be able to fact check. I appreciate that people can look at the same set of facts and come to completely different conclusions What I hate is the lying. And a great deal of what passes for journalism today is lying.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 8:51 AM
Good morning all. Missed Craig on radio; rats.
Philly Inquirer on Obama speech, to be given this morning at National Constitution Center, invitation only.
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/home_top_stories/20080318_Obama_to_deliver_Phila__speech_on_race.html
Have not been watching TV; has anyone seen what time it will be and whether C-Span will cover it? (TV's in another room.) Thanks.
(C-Span 1 will cover the Supreme Court oral arguments on gun ownership case at 11:30.)
Posted by: dog hussein dog | March 18, 2008 8:52 AM
ps
I think McClatchy and Knight Ridder do a pretty good job. I think the Compost and the NYTimes are both pretty crappy --and were once both great.
My local paper was founded by members of the Confederacy that moved to California. It has not changed its editorial policy much. (And suffers from a complex of not being Napa.)
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 8:56 AM
There's a 527 out there as we speak assembling 30 sec and 1 minute spots from the YouTube clips on the good reverend Wright and Obama. We'll see what magic he attempts in the stump speech, but absent a transcendent effort, he's got no credible denial on the issue IMHO. 20 years is too long a run to claim ignorance of Wright's views or to produce any credible spin that the black experience justifies 20 years of tolerance of anti American sentiment if you are running for president.
Posted by: pogo bin agogo | March 18, 2008 8:56 AM
Here is the gist of what Obama is going to say
"Obama: I do think there is an overlap in the sense that there is a generational shift that is taking place and has constantly taken pace in our society. And Rev. Wright is somebody who came of age in the 60s. And so like a lot of African-American men of fierce intelligence coming up in the '60s he has a lot of the language and the memories and the baggage of those times. And I represent a different generation with just a different set of life experiences, and so see race relations in just a different set of terms than he does, as does Otis Moss, who is slightly younger than me. And so the question then for me becomes what's my relationship to that past?
You know, I can completely just disown it and say I don't understand it, but I do understand it. I understand the context with which he developed his views but also can still reject unequivocally. . .
Tribune: You reject his views, you won't reject the man. Is that it?
Obama: Yeah, exactly. And this is where the connection comes in. I mean, I do think that Geraldine Ferraro, the lens through which she looks at race, is different. . . . She's grown up in different times. The Queens that she grew up in is, I'm sure, a different place than it was then. Just as Chicago is a different place than it was then.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/70s-nostalgia-hmmmmaybe-not/
shorter Obama
everyone who doesn't support me is racist. I am the only one who has seen the light.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 9:01 AM
Craig just had to title today's post "Springtime With Obama" Just couldn't resist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5KM2HosqOo
Posted by: Jamie
| March 18, 2008 9:02 AM
Pogo, that absolutely goes back to the mentoring thing I posted earlier. If nothing else, it shows that Oprah was more prescient in her departure.
Posted by: Flatus
| March 18, 2008 9:02 AM
Flatus, that's ole abe lincoln in the video
Posted by: Craig Crawford | March 18, 2008 9:02 AM
Flatus, that's ole abe lincoln in the video
Posted by: Craig Crawford | March 18, 2008 9:03 AM
Is it true that "The Audacity of Hope", came from a sermon at Obama's church?
Posted by: vadaryl
| March 18, 2008 9:04 AM
Vadaryl
Yes.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 9:05 AM
Craig, ah, good!!! That will surely make the Professor proud!
Posted by: Flatus
| March 18, 2008 9:05 AM
Dear Craig:
You are adorable in your lates video those adorable piercing blue eyes.
But Craig honestly please tell me you don't use 409 to clean the sink lol. Men are so cute when they play housekeeper, but usually they get it all wrong lol
It would be my pleasure to show you the right way :-)
Sincerely,
Heather
Posted by: Heather
| March 18, 2008 9:05 AM
"And we bought one of those one shot coffee makers - a Flavia - seemed like a good idea at the time since we drink maybe 2 cups at home before heading out to work."
I have a Flavia at home and at work and I love them. I'm the only one who drinks coffee and it costs me $0.40 per cup as compared to nearly $2 if I stop at the Starbucks. If I made a whole pot of coffee...that would be wasteful too and then you have to clean the coffee pot - plus the Flavia has a modern design compared to other coffee makers which my partner likes.
Posted by: Wendy!
| March 18, 2008 9:06 AM
Craig the weather down here in Fl has been great. Been here since Saturday.
Posted by: vadaryl
| March 18, 2008 9:06 AM
Who exposed the video of this pastor, Hannity has been on this since last April but had not video? Once ABC news picked it up, it became a big issue.
Posted by: vadaryl
| March 18, 2008 9:08 AM
Wow...I just realized that USC is the 6th seed in the tournament...I CAN'T believe it...you see I don't pay as much attention to b-ball as I do football. Good for the guys!
Posted by: Wendy!
| March 18, 2008 9:08 AM
What's next, that Weather Underground guy, I think his name is William Aires.
Posted by: vadaryl
| March 18, 2008 9:09 AM
When Rev Wright retired, Trinity Church put together\
boxed sets of his sermons.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 9:09 AM
Was that in the last few weeks? I thought I heard they sell their Sunday sermons. Does Oprah go to that church too?
Posted by: vadaryl
| March 18, 2008 9:10 AM
I don't know how many of you caught Abrams last night but my belief is the Rezko thing is just getting started. The media smells fear from the Obama campaign and me thinks they are now going to start digging a little deeper into this story. Obama will really need to hit one out of the park today with this speech because personally I thought the media appearances on Friday were a tiny bit lame.
I know the Chicago Tribune stood by its endorsement after Obama sat down with them on Friday but I get the feeling that the Wright issue is merely a distraction from the bigger issue of Antoin Rezko (and his very shady connections.)
This is just my opinion...call it a feeling running up my leg.
Posted by: Ally
| March 18, 2008 9:11 AM
BHO has three questionable relationships hitting him all at the wrong time. Interesting it took this long for them to come out.
Posted by: vadaryl
| March 18, 2008 9:13 AM
Now what is the media going to do with them, since this year they seem to be playing a major part in who is going to win.
Posted by: vadaryl
| March 18, 2008 9:14 AM
From the article dog posted: ""I'm going to be talking not just about Rev. Wright, but about the larger issue of race in the campaign, which has just ramped up over the last few weeks," Obama told reporters yesterday after a town-hall forum in this Pittsburgh suburb."
Translation (just as KGC and others have noted): I never heard Rev Wright say anything at any time, and even if I did, it shouldn't matter that I lied about it because I am all about hope and change. Anyway, this whole mess is Bill and Hillary Clinton's fault for knowing that old racist Geraldine Ferraro, who is a baby boomer bitch and thereby not worthy of saying the same thing I've said on occasion.
Posted by: Patsi | March 18, 2008 9:15 AM
vadaryl...where(inFlorida)are you?
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| March 18, 2008 9:15 AM
Oprah has not commented. News reports say she did belong to the Church in around 1984 but later dropped out and allegedly Rev Wight attacked her for leaving.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 9:15 AM
All systems go... main engines are a go... roger that Huston T minus 57 minutes and 42, 41 seconds to Obma speech
Heather lol
Posted by: Heather
| March 18, 2008 9:19 AM
obama calling on democrats to look past racial comments of pastor.......uh.......barack......it's not the democrats who will be the problem......
Posted by: sturgeone | March 18, 2008 9:20 AM
Interesting Oprah has not said a word about this now.
Posted by: vadaryl
| March 18, 2008 9:20 AM
Check CNN.COM live video for the speech
Posted by: vadaryl
| March 18, 2008 9:24 AM
Patsi
Translation (just as KGC and others have noted): I never heard Rev Wright say anything at any time, and even if I did, it shouldn't matter that I lied about it because I am all about hope and change. Anyway, this whole mess is Bill and Hillary Clinton's fault for knowing that old racist Geraldine Ferraro, who is a baby boomer bitch and thereby not worthy of saying the same thing I've said on occasion.
Well said. Have you been given a job at MSNBC!
Posted by: Coreen | March 18, 2008 9:25 AM
Obama campaign admits defeat in Pa
now it is all about North Carolina
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/18/MNJSVKSOK.DTL
Calling John Edwards. Calling John Edwards.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 9:25 AM
Most politicians get into trouble because they don't have real core beliefs that they don't mind the world seeing. They are a product of spin and slogans.
The best ones who do have a core (or have learned how to fake one) speak about and answer all questions thrown at them almost without thinking. Their beliefs and ideas are just part of their DNA - much like the conversations we have in here.
The others have the long pause, the measured answer, the stall, the reworded explanation after the original response complete with talking points, and finally if it all starts going south the grand public statement.
We will have to see which one Sen. Obama produces today.
Posted by: Jamie
| March 18, 2008 9:27 AM
"The most important thing in show business [or politics] is sincerity.........once you can fake that you got it made......."
---George Burns
Posted by: sturgeone | March 18, 2008 9:29 AM
Obama speech at 10:15 a. Good to know about streaming video; it seems C-Span's morning schedule is flexible enough to air it. (Washington Journal over at 10; Supreme Court at 11:30.)
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/obama_giving_crucial_speech_on.php
Posted by: dog hussein dog | March 18, 2008 9:29 AM
This media curves I think shows everyone where the real problem is.
http://www.mediacurves.com/Politics/J6762/
He's going to lose his Repub and Indie vots...but Dems have problems too.
Posted by: Wendy!
| March 18, 2008 9:31 AM
Imus will replay CC's spot this morning at 9:30 or so for those interested.......
Posted by: sturgeone | March 18, 2008 9:33 AM
Wendy! I really am not down on Flavia. I liked it for a long time - but now that we take go cups to drink on the way to work so that we won't be accused of driving without distraction (as if the cell phones aren't enough) the new coffee maker is as easy and makes just enough for the home/trip cups. Plus, I have come to love that whrrrrr/sniff/ahhhhh experience again. And while Flavia coffee really is good - with the addition of the aroma, there is just something about freshly ground coffee that the single cuppers just can't compete with. (If you don't get your coffee at CoffeeGiant.com, check their prices out). Different strokes as they say. And as for Starbucks (Fourbucks as Mrs' Pogo's aunt used to refer to it), no thanks - beer's cheaper.
vadaryl is in FL? For some unexplainable reason, I thought he was in VA.
Posted by: pogo bin agogo | March 18, 2008 9:34 AM
Clinton cannot win the popular votes nor the pledged delegates.
In classical Clintonian fashion, the new criteria is "electabilility".
At the rate events are evolving, the Dems will go into November a bitterly divided party.
The compromise candidate option will be the only way Dems can win the Presidency.
So much for first black or first woman President.
That dream is gone , gone ,gone.
Posted by: George | March 18, 2008 9:38 AM
electability: Kerry......Gore.....dukakis.....mondale.....McGovern.....
who got elected? Carter and Clinton.
Vote Clinton to win another one for a change we can believe in.....
Posted by: sturgeone | March 18, 2008 9:40 AM
mornin' econ report.
Dow's up 185 pts. Wholesale prices increased .3% last month (on top of 1% in Jan.). Fed is on the horns of a dilemma, has seized the stagnation horn.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Economy.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Posted by: pogo bin agogo | March 18, 2008 9:40 AM
Wendy: I would not think Obama is necessarily going to lose his independent and GOP voters. That's one of your overly broad statements.
It will take time for this one to play out; need to see what happens in the next few weeks.
I'm still going with my "LA police beating" trial video scenario where continuous exposure desensitized the jury.
Obama is not his pastor. And there are LOTS of people out there who will not vote for Hillary Clinton. Ever.
Posted by: dog hussein dog | March 18, 2008 9:40 AM
Obama cannot win the popular vote or get enough pledged delegates. In new politics fashion the critieria is stop the race while Obama is ahead.
At the rate events are evolving, the Dems will go into November a bitterly divided party.
etc. etc. etc.
Posted by: Check the math | March 18, 2008 9:41 AM
What I fear is Obama has been drinking the Afrocentric koolaid too long to realize how out of the mainstream some of their ideas appear to suburban middle class people of all races.
The reason I have this fear is the Reverend Wrights beliefs were obviously going to be a problem. I pointed this out when I first came in here a couple of months back. Yet nobody in the Obama camp has devised a strategy to deal with it.
The time to deal with all of this was 6 months ago.
I doubt if any speach about race will alieve the concerns of the people out in the suburbs, who count in this election.
I am very curious how he will deal with this problem. he has not done very well so far.
Jack
Posted by: WhskyJack | March 18, 2008 9:42 AM
yes, Ross Perot got Clinton elected and Nixon's skullduggery got Carter elected......I'd like to win one outright for a change........it wont be with mr obama that democrats win.
Posted by: sturgeone | March 18, 2008 9:42 AM
this is reminscent of Romney's "mormon" speech........that didnt work, either.....
Posted by: sturgeone | March 18, 2008 9:44 AM
Dog's Eye
You are right that the aftermath will decide. At some point within about 72 hours all of the reactions and spin patrol will have been done and the first "post speech" polls will be out. Whether he managed to pull the fat out of the fire or has been irrevocably damaged will be pretty clear.
Posted by: Jamie
| March 18, 2008 9:44 AM
Well Pogo - I can't argue with you about the aroma and sound of brewing coffee...but there is also something to be said about peace with my partner over the aesthetic beauty of the machine...all about knowing what's important...I'm sure you know what I mean.
;-)
Posted by: Wendy!
| March 18, 2008 9:47 AM
The reason I am in FL is for Vacation.
Posted by: vadaryl
| March 18, 2008 9:48 AM
Dog wrote: "It will take time for this one to play out; need to see what happens in the next few weeks."
I'll agree with you here.
What I should have said is that he is in danger of losing those votes...
That WSJ article that was posted this morning was very insightful as well...I hope you read it.
Posted by: Wendy!
| March 18, 2008 9:50 AM
"The Obama campaign considers this speech the rhetoical endpoint to ANY discussion about Rev Wright"
That means we will never hear another word on nbc and its sisterenablers Other news outlets are not likely to be cooperative.
Will Obama just walk out of press conferences as he did when asked other difficult questions..
Over the weekend polling found Obama's support among Independents and Republican seriously effected by this story.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 9:51 AM
I don't think the Hannity's will let him off the hook no matter what he says today.
Posted by: vadaryl
| March 18, 2008 9:53 AM
Sturgeone
The dream has evaporated.
Not Clinton ,not Obama.
If dems want to win in November , it will be with a compromise canididate.
The supporters in both camps are hardening their positions.
Obama will not get Clinton base and Clinton will not get the majority of the Obama base.
Talk about self destruction.
Posted by: George | March 18, 2008 9:55 AM
Will BHO give his speech in front of the press or before screaming college students(who are skipping classes)?
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| March 18, 2008 9:55 AM
god..... I'm really off my game today....
I thought I missed Obama's speech based on one of KGC's posts.....
I really hope he does well..... I want the Democrats to win....
gonna watch it on CNN..... as I'm sure MSNBC's analysis will be laughable as usual.....
vadaryl..... I'm jealous..... we've had a lot of snow melt here in NH over the last week..... and yet it's still over 2 ft deep......
Posted by: RebelliousRenee | March 18, 2008 9:55 AM
Jack: I am with you on a point: they had to know that Rev. Wright's sermons would get out, and would not play well when they did. Also that some were perfect for short clips of only incendiary rhetoric.
Obama was not well known on national stage; that's why the "Obama is a Muslim" email smears gained such traction in some quarters. They were filling a void with misinformation.
Rev. Wright is much more than the unacceptable rhetoric in his sermons -- he has a lot of good points too and has done a lot in and for his community, and it probably would have been better to introduce him in some fashion so that at least there would not be a vaccuum of no information in which to toss these youtubes.
=======
Jamie: weeks until next primary and Easter intervening. So next 72 hours may just tell you about next 72 hours.
It will be interesting to see the first quarter fundraising reports, and whether Obama experiences a dropoff.
KGC: Pennsylvania was always going to be hard. And Obama has done well in rural areas. He might be able to keep the loss margin relatively low.
Posted by: dog hussein dog | March 18, 2008 9:55 AM
MSNBC is covering the Obama speech as if it were some earth-shattering major national event. CNN is talking about tax season tips.
Posted by: Divalicias | March 18, 2008 9:56 AM
Driving down to FL from VA Friday night and listening to the different talk show hosts the pastor was the number 1 topic. Some of the hosts were BHO fans up until they heard about the pastor sermon's and they were not so sure now. They wanted to hear more from him, well they may get their wish at 10. Then it would be interesting to hear them tonight.
Posted by: vadaryl
| March 18, 2008 9:56 AM
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/people2/just_8_have_favorable_opinion_of_pastor_jeremiah_wright
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 9:56 AM
Obama's speech set is a row of American flags, hahaha. I LOVE America! Really I do. Really.
Posted by: Divalicias | March 18, 2008 9:57 AM
Thanks for reading suggestion, Wendy. Will check out WSJ a little later. (Can their website headlines get any bigger these days?)
Posted by: dog hussein dog | March 18, 2008 9:58 AM
From the poll link
Most voters, 56%, said Wright’s comments made them less likely to vote for Obama. That figure includes 44% of Democrats. Just 11% of voters say they are more likely to vote for Obama because of Wright’s comments.
However, among African-Americans, 29% said Wright’s comments made them more likely to support Obama. Just 18% said the opposite while 50% said Wright’s comments would have no impact.
Overall, voters are evenly divided as to whether Obama should resign his membership in the Church—42% say that he should while 40% disagree. White voters, by a 46% to 33% margin, say that Obama should leave the Church. African-American voters, by a 68% to 16% margin, say he should not. Wright retired last month as Pastor of the Church.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 9:58 AM
A little early for drinking games but:
Marine
30 year career
older generation
uncle
mentor
do not share beliefs
Time to move on
no black america or white america only one america
Change
Turn The page
Any other suggestions.
Posted by: Jamie
| March 18, 2008 10:00 AM
Nurse to LBJ
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 10:01 AM
BHO is good at prepared speeches. So I don't think he will bomb but might say a lot but at the sametime not say a thing.
Posted by: vadaryl
| March 18, 2008 10:01 AM
Obama on race? Sorry, O, it's not about race -- it's about hate.
Posted by: Divalicias | March 18, 2008 10:02 AM
ROTFLMAO @ Jamie(as I pour sambuca in my coffee!!)
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| March 18, 2008 10:04 AM
Jamie
Biracial
Posted by: Wendy!
| March 18, 2008 10:05 AM
dog
RCP Average 03/05 - 03/16 - 52.0 36.8 Clinton +15.2
The numbers in Pa are not going in Obamas favor.
He will not do well in rural Pa.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 10:05 AM
I'm starting to think PA results will look more like RI than they do OH...
Posted by: Wendy!
| March 18, 2008 10:06 AM
Jamie
I would like to add:
white Mother
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| March 18, 2008 10:06 AM
Wendy! I do know what you mean about the asthetics of the machine. They do make a pretty coffee maker.
VAD - have a good vacation - what part of one of my favorite vacation destinations are you visiting? Oh, and wrt the upcoming "race" speech, as with many of his other stump speeches, as Firesign Theatre said "Pretty words, but what do they mean?" Maybe he'll disappoint and say something that seems to actually have meaning.
Posted by: pogo bin agogo | March 18, 2008 10:13 AM
"That dream is gone , gone ,gone."
I hope you aren't suggesting that's Hillary's fault?
By the way, a lot has been made of the "timing" of this. Obviosly it wasn't a Clinton conspiracy because it's too late to do her much good. So why would the wingers do this now? I think they see more advantage in jacking up a potential Dem fight about electibility that stretches into convention time. I think they would love nothing more than seeing something akin to a race riot break out in Denver. I think they believe they can destroy the party, while placing blame on Hillary for not just giving up her campaign and handing the nomination to the dream candidate. And they may be right.
Posted by: Patsi | March 18, 2008 10:13 AM
speech maybe delayed for 2o minutes will be 30 minutes long
Posted by: vadaryl
| March 18, 2008 10:16 AM
Pogo - my partner doesn't like anything to sit on the counters in the kitchen. She likes modern design (as do I) and thinks coffeemakers are eye sores. The cool curves of the Flavia have silenced her complaints. That makes me happy. Also...has a small footprint...
:-)
Posted by: Wendy!
| March 18, 2008 10:17 AM
my partner doesn't like anything to sit on the counters in the kitchen.
The Cracker household has the toaster wars.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 10:19 AM
Time for rewriting since it's getting more press?
Posted by: vadaryl
| March 18, 2008 10:20 AM
BHO camp is now saying it's a major speech. How wonder it's getting so much press coverage.
Posted by: vadaryl
| March 18, 2008 10:21 AM
kc, your poll link above got me thinking I needed to look at the NC polls to see what appears to be happening there. Looks like after Clinton lost her lead of from almost 20 pts in the fall, Obama surged out to a lead of 10-15 in Feb, which has dropped to 4-9 now. NC moving toward the MOE and is not a given for Obama at this point.
And we now have 1st and 2nd amendment cases coming before the Supreme Court to let us know what we will be reaping from the judicial crop sown by Dumya.
Posted by: pogo bin agogo | March 18, 2008 10:21 AM
damn...just last night, I was sittin' on the kitchen counter and JIm................oh, oh, oh...nevermind(TMI..it's the sambuca talkin'...really)
ROTFLMAO!!!
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| March 18, 2008 10:22 AM
Wendy!, your partner should meet my wife - they have much in common.
Posted by: pogo bin agogo | March 18, 2008 10:23 AM
A comment by Jake Tapper, ABC news
"And how does his pledge to unite the country square with his attendance at a church where those of his late mother's hue might not feel comfortable?"
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/philadelphia-fe.html
Diva
This is a racial attack on Obama.
It is an "Oh look a scary black man " attack.
Look at the above quote by an ABC reporter. ABC ran a hit job that they got from a Republican operative. They didn't even bother to edit it or add any contrary video.
How do you know that Reverend Wright preaches hate? Did you view the whole sermon?
Folks if you use the right wing talking points they win. If you use their languge then they win
Quit being fools.
Jack
Posted by: WhskyJack | March 18, 2008 10:23 AM
VADARYL....WHERE (IN FLORDIA) ARE YOU?
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| March 18, 2008 10:23 AM
Lush, check your email
Posted by: vadaryl
| March 18, 2008 10:24 AM
Divalicious: "O, it's not about race -- it's about hate."
Divalicious: it's not about hate. It's about frustration.
Posted by: dog hussein dog | March 18, 2008 10:25 AM
Did people speak up for the Clinton campaign when Jake Tapper did the same thing to them.
No the Obama campaign sent around the report in an email
When you give credibility to people it is hard to take it back.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 10:27 AM
Hazmat reported at Charlotte airport
Posted by: vadaryl
| March 18, 2008 10:29 AM
KGC
The game is much bigger than your petty little bickering.
You are playing into the hands of the right wing Republicans.
As I said quit being a fool.
Jack
Posted by: WhskyJack | March 18, 2008 10:30 AM
Jack
I am just saying. If there is a problem for Obama he created it by using the same media that is now creating a problem for him.
Who is the fool?
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 18, 2008 10:32 AM
"Hazmat reported at Charlotte airport"
I went through the Charlotte airport once.
Toxic waste is a good discription.
Jack
Posted by: WhskyJack | March 18, 2008 10:32 AM
Jack,
My understanding is that there is a large white component at that UCC church. Certainly there are many both black and white that believe the towers came down courtesy of implosions. There is an element of racial hatred within the black community that is just as viral as that within the white community. I don't know why so many whites are amazed that hate is a two way street.
Now I've never heard any language like that in a black church. I have heard hatred in one of those White Megachurches, Had to go to that service, but never crossed that threshhold again.
It is Sen Obama's relationship with this particular church and this particular minister that I find disturbing.
Posted by: Jamie
| March 18, 2008 10:33 AM
Pogo,
That 4AM thing. Must have started when I was a kid, early morning paper route, slept late as a teen & college but back to haunt me as I age. Then again it might have been all those years of trying to beat the nasty morning commute on Rt 3 & 495 coming out of NH into Mass.
Posted by: Bowmanc | March 18, 2008 10:33 AM
Patsi
Once Edwards withdrew from the race , the risk of a gender/race war increased dramatically.
We are seeing the manifestation now of that war.
Attributing blame is counterproductive.
Clinton ,Obama and their supporters are so invested in the slugfest that they cannot see the damage.
The damage will only be evident when the victor emerges and survey the landscape.
Posted by: George | March 18, 2008 10:34 AM
Hell, I even read Willie Nelson thinks the towers were impolded. He must be smoking too much Willie weed.
Posted by: Bowmanc | March 18, 2008 10:35 AM
IMHO, this speech is not going to "change" anyone's opinion of BHO.
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| March 18, 2008 10:36 AM
Bowman
"That 4AM thing" With me it was the hour before having to get children up, dressed, and off to school for them and work for me. It was MY hour that preserved sanity when I could sip coffee, read, fully wake before the rat race started. Now it's an ingrained habit that I can't shake.
Posted by: Jamie
| March 18, 2008 10:36 AM
What are the polls in North Carolina looking like?
Posted by: Ally
| March 18, 2008 10:38 AM
"Hell, I even read Willie Nelson thinks the towers were impolded. He must be smoking too much Willie weed. "
Bow! Say it ain't so! Maybe he's spent too much time with Skinny Dennis....I always suspected that one of the real reasons those two get along is that they both love polka.
Posted by: Patsi | March 18, 2008 10:39 AM
I would think that BHO would want to be on time for the "most important" speech of his political life.
It's OK, Barack...I have all day 8(
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| March 18, 2008 10:41 AM
Rev Jeremiah Wright, is Senator Hillary Clinton's Proxy Doxy. The Clintons still using racism to scare the white people, look Obama's Pastor is controversial heres the thing, this isn't news it isn't even new...so what is the point of hyping this story in the media now? Obama's ahead. Clinton's can't attack Obama out in the open - straight forward so they use a surrogate a proxy to attack just replace Obama with Wright. This isn't exactly subtle. The Clintons are supposed to be such staunch Civil Rights defenders and look at the tactics they have used Bill Clinton's Fairy Tale comment, the South Carolina comment, oh and Geraldine Ferraro telling us all how luck Obama is because he is where he is because he is black. It doesn't appear that the Clinton's have a bottom just like Imus has mentioned on more then one occasion.
Posted by: Ree | March 18, 2008 10:42 AM
Ree: If this Clintons wanted to expose Jeremiah Wright, they would not have waited until Obama has a delegate lead that Clinton cannot catch. Give me a break. ABC News broke the story. Nuff said.
Posted by: Ally
| March 18, 2008 10:44 AM
Scarborough just mentioned the title:
On A More Perfect Union
If he gave it a name ... bad move. That title if real smacks way too much of pontificating and too little of who he is.
Posted by: Jamie
| March 18, 2008 10:44 AM
Posted by: Ree | March 18, 2008 10:42 AM
Posted by: ROFLMAO | March 18, 2008 10:45 AM
heres the thing, this isn't news
--Ree
someone needs to notify all the news organizations
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| March 18, 2008 10:46 AM
I cant answer questions
Everything I say has to be scripted
That way my words can find a place in history
I am the speech man!!!!
Posted by: bho | March 18, 2008 10:48 AM
Nancy Giles says something true: Blacks are not some monolithic, all think alike mass anymore than ALL whites think alike. Then she says something stupid such as Geraldine Ferraro's remark was the product of hate. I could have sworn it was an acknowledgement of reality and a repeat of something Sen Obama had said about himself.
Posted by: Jamie
| March 18, 2008 10:51 AM
damn...I started with my own private drinking game 53 minutes ago...I may have to do a liquor store run for more sambuca...or switch to kahlua...LOLOL(hiccup)LOLOLOL!!!
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| March 18, 2008 10:53 AM
By invitation only crowd applause.
Posted by: Jamie
| March 18, 2008 10:53 AM
A history lesson...holy crap...why cant he say anything original?
Posted by: bho | March 18, 2008 10:55 AM
Axelrod must have been watching the first 2 episodes of John Adams while he wrote this.
Posted by: Wendy!
| March 18, 2008 10:55 AM
Patsi,
Here is a link to the Wille story
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2008/020408_towers_imploded.htm
Posted by: Bowmanc | March 18, 2008 10:55 AM
everyone is free to pick their own church
Posted by: bho | March 18, 2008 10:56 AM
yeah, we think that the rich white people have to get the hell out of the white house
here comes the bi-racial dna statement
Slaves
Posted by: bho | March 18, 2008 10:58 AM
Wright turn under the bus
Posted by: Jamie
| March 18, 2008 11:00 AM
not only former pastor , but my lifetime pastor
Posted by: bho | March 18, 2008 11:01 AM
I know I said before that I had not heard any of this, well today I am telling I lied to you before.....I have heard Wright say these things.
Posted by: bho | March 18, 2008 11:02 AM
Jack -- I don't particularly find black men to be scary -- so I don't quite follow your meaning.
Dog -- So are you saying that when you're frustrated it's okay to engage in hate speech?
Posted by: Divalicias | March 18, 2008 11:03 AM
stick a fork in me - I am done
Posted by: bho | March 18, 2008 11:08 AM
Say it with me G** D*** America !!!
Posted by: bho | March 18, 2008 11:09 AM
State of the Union applause lines?
Posted by: Jamie
| March 18, 2008 11:10 AM
BHO should have just one teleprompter, by the camera...he is going to get whiplash.
It seems that he is not speaking to all Americans...but rather to only Black Americans.
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| March 18, 2008 11:13 AM
Blame game
Posted by: bho | March 18, 2008 11:14 AM
ally, re: the NC polls
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/03/springtime-with-obama.html#comment-53952
Also, Pollster.com has them all lined up.
I read the speech over at HuffPo (exception to the no HuffGoBamaPo rule). It's a good speech, I agree with most of it, but whether it will do anything to tamp down the flames is anyone's guess.
Posted by: pogo bin agogo | March 18, 2008 11:15 AM
He would do well to remember the ladies when he catalogs the economic injustices of the recent past.
Posted by: Divalicias | March 18, 2008 11:15 AM
I was just thinking he may have become the black candidate.
Posted by: Wendy!
| March 18, 2008 11:16 AM
ha - only if those ladies are black
Posted by: bho | March 18, 2008 11:16 AM
we need a president, not a teacher
Posted by: bho | March 18, 2008 11:18 AM
I don't think this speech is helping him.
He should just wrap it up, by blaming the Clintons for everything that is wrong with the country.
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| March 18, 2008 11:19 AM
He certainly has a lot of complaint towards our country - the USA - and the opportunities here.
Posted by: bho | March 18, 2008 11:20 AM
recently former pastor
Posted by: Divalicias | March 18, 2008 11:20 AM
LMAO @ "former pastor"...uh huh....yeah "Wright"!!
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| March 18, 2008 11:21 AM
Hey Lushislinda -- Notice how he was skillfully able to slide that little dig in at Geraldine?
Posted by: Divalicias | March 18, 2008 11:21 AM
stay in school and get an education, then get a job....it isn't that hard !!!!!
Don't break the law and stay out of jail and away from drugs.....
This is a great nation.....!
This speech sucks!
Posted by: bho | March 18, 2008 11:21 AM
Brother's keeper sisters keeper
getting all Biblical now
Posted by: Divalicias | March 18, 2008 11:23 AM
OJ! He said OJ!!
Posted by: Divalicias | March 18, 2008 11:23 AM
More audacity of hope that American can change.
Now he's starting to sound like a human being. He should have done this through the whole speech.
Posted by: Jamie
| March 18, 2008 11:23 AM
Another dig at Geraldine
Posted by: Divalicias | March 18, 2008 11:24 AM
Obama's Speech
"I find him arrogant, pretentious and manipulative. I also now believe he's more comfortable with pretending than with the truth, and I think this speech embodies all those concerns."
http://tammybruce.com/
Posted by: GORDO | March 18, 2008 11:24 AM
Thanks for the Pollster link Pogo. Not good for Hillary in North Carolina right now! Yikes!
Posted by: Ally
| March 18, 2008 11:24 AM
Children are our greatest resource.
Posted by: Divalicias | March 18, 2008 11:25 AM
oh brother, he is the Black president....
Posted by: bho | March 18, 2008 11:25 AM
Talk about kitchen sink. Now a list of issues that should have been mentioned long before now.
Way too little Barack Obama and way to much sloganeering and blame.
Posted by: Jamie
| March 18, 2008 11:26 AM
I would love to see who is in the audience.
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| March 18, 2008 11:27 AM