Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Campaigning in PA sounds like a smart move for Obama. If Hillary is really hurting for cash, Barack's efforts in PA may help to break her bank. He seems to have nothing to lose by making the effort.

I understand male voters jumping to Mr Obama's side; they just can't resist the opportunity of getting even with their moms for having made them cleanup their messes.

ROFL, Flatus. Looks like Harold Ford is going to be on MoJo this morning. The voice of reason. I'm so glad he's moved over there to class up that dismal channel.

I'm going to have to miss him Patsi, have a four hour stint in the dentist's chair this morning. Should be my last major appointment in getting implants, a process that's taken two _long_ years.

Good Morning Craig, Everyone:

Dear Craig Its a sad day today, my Jewish friend told me last night the closing of Rascal House; as a Florida resident you probably familiar with Wolfie Cohen, Wolfie's Restaurants throughout Florida, yesterday was the last day for the famous Rascal House in Sunny Isles :-(( It will be like a piece of Florida dying. Gramps and Gran and I have a lot of fond memories there, sadly those days will change.

Geee Craig lets hope Obama can govern better than he bowls good heavens [37] honestly sports is not his thing. He looks slightly effeminate bowling.
That may turn out to be a "Dukakis Moment" for him.

Sincerely,
Heather

I agree with Heather about the Obama's bowling stance, but for me the "Dukakis Moment" was Barack Obama sitting on a John Deere lawn tractor. I only saw it once. I'm sure the MSM is trying to keep that moment under wraps.

Bowling balls are so hard on ones manicure.

ubns,

This may be what you are looking for,

http://wonkette.com/363711/a-childrens-treasury-of-barack-obama-playing-with-tractors

Thanks for the link Bowmanc. That must be same pic I saw on TV. My apologies to John Deere.

Mornin', all.

Heather - ROFL. Well, he'd better do better in PA and governing than he did bowling - he had a what - a 37? Maybe he should have used the bumpers they put up for kids' birthday parties. We bowl very infrequently - maybe once every 5 years or so. The last time we bowled, Mrs. Pogo - who is not a bowler and stands at about 5'3" and 100 pounds soaking wet, scored around 100. Li'l Pogo told me he scored a 97 his last outing (and he was 10 when he last went bowling). The bowling won't be much of a Dukakis moment, although bowling with a tie on and a stick up your butt is a less than flattering image.

I do note that the PA polls have tightened a little in March - who knows what the bus tour (complete with revival tents?) can do?

Flatus, I do not envy you your morning. As a fellow dental sufferer, I'd rather be just about anywhere.

reminds me of when this farm kid came late to school and Ms Ruby asked him why he was late....He says, "The damn tractor got stuck and daddy made me get it out...."
She says, "What kind of tractor, John?!?"
He says, "He been a 'Farmall' "

‘The Gathering Storm’: One Democrat’s Analysis of Anti-Obama Feeling Among Democrats

" ...this post perfectly articulates the anger and frustration of Hillary’s Democratic supporters—-and the seething indignation that both the media and the disingenuous tactics deployed by Barack Obama and his supporters has engendered."

Obama has rudely lost the good regard of Democrats like me. The hysteria and hate of the elite punditocracy who have declared me and my candidate to be illegitimate in an attempt to bully her supporters, while giving him a free ride, cannot be rewarded. The Democratic Party is choosing to declare Hillary voters to be expendable (can’t count your vote if it would change the outcome of the race) and of lesser worth than Obama supporters. And all of this is being viewed with increasing disgust by a growing number of Democratic voters.(Anglachelg)"

More:

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/30/the-gathering-storm-one-democrats-analysis-of-anti-obama-feeling-among-democrats/

Hows come this doesn't sound like the economy with strong fundamentals, whatever the hell unprecedented growth in the economy and three years of continuous job growth the chimp in chief touts ?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/31/us/31foodstamps.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Yesterday, another person shared their HRC/BHO "secret". I have also thought about this one, but I didn't write it... 8D

http://postsecret.blogspot.com/

Absolutely ROFLMAO at the Wonkette link. Particularly the caption under the Allis-Chalmers photo.

I'm thinking that if Obama selected Harold Ford, Jr. as his running mate, they could not only win, but perhaps even take over the world, based on nothing more than their combined charisma.

McCain may be too old and too Republican, but it doesn't keep him from being perceptive

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/30/AR2008033002401.html?hpid=topnews

Hello Craig and Gang,This is my first time at your merry little table and I feel comfortable. I've been enjoying your work for a couple of years now and I must compliment you and your team. I learn. I laugh. I lament. Good work by all!

Dear Pogo:
I loved your post :-)) My daughter is seven and bowls a 90 bless her heart. I would have thought that Obama's handlers could see he's not the rugged Tom Sellek type and seer him away from sports stuff. Good heavens I just had a scary thought, Obama as president and throwing out the "first pitch" at Yankee Stadium, Yikes!

--Heather

Obama bowling

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtBBgn0I34E

Heather - DUCK!!! That pitch could go anywhere.

Polecrat - don't just sit on the sidelines any longer - jump in and lay your opinions out here - really, most of us don't bite.

At the very least theyshould not let him bowl or get on a tractor while wearing a white shirt unless it is for a SNL skit.

heres a great article about race in the campaign

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20080330_Obama_was_the_first_to_play_the_race_card.html

"Hello Craig and Gang,This is my first time at your merry little table and I feel comfortable. I've been enjoying your work for a couple of years now and I must compliment you and your team. I learn. I laugh. I lament. Good work by all! -- Posted by: Polecrat"

-- WELCOME ABOARD Polecrat. We love it when lurkers convert to players. Join the fray!

Racists again endorse Obama on candidate's website

"An anti-white and virulently anti-Semitic black supremacist party has once again endorsed Sen. Barack Obama on the presidential candidate's own website,...

Following criticism earlier this month of an online endorsement from the New Black Panther Party, or NBPP, Obama's campaign removed the controversial organization from the presidential candidate's official website. The NBPP had been a registered team member and blogger on Obama's "MyObama" campaign site."

(Yes, I know it is WND)

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60325

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/31/us/politics/31clinton.html?ref=politics

Hmmmmmmm
Amazing sometimes.....

Just watched the Obama bowling video. He bowls like a girl...he says he is skinny, but tough...he isn't so tough, when it comes to bowling!!

I am thinking he should've brought his own shoes...ewwwww!!

I am also thinking the owners of the bowling alley should sell those shoes on ebay!!

Happy Cesar Chavez day everyone!

Si, se puede

Go Hillary!

David Axelrod on Superdelegates

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzuQsJP4Ses

Karolenna, MaxTrue, Eurotom -- I had some time to look at pending comments this morning and see that the spam filter held some of your comments due to the 3 or more links rule. I just now released them for publishing.

EVERYONE: This is unavoidable in order to combat the relentless spam attacks -- any post with 3 or more links is held by the spam filter and i don't get a chance to look at it that often. So please keep your links to two per comment. Thanks.

Informative piece from today's LA Times on how Harold Ickes is running Hillary's superdelegate boiler room:

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-ickes31mar31,0,918692.story

Its funny I keep hearing that Gore may come in to save the party a nominee if you can believe that. I just have one question, won't the Obama supporters feel disenfranchised that Al Gore prevented Sen. Obama from being the first African American president? It gets mentioned with Hillary often enough.
Is it sexist, a hypocrisy or both?

--Heather

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-health30mar30,1,6541075.story

No news, but still, she said it out loud!

@Heather: It is BOTH!

"I keep hearing that Gore may come in to save the party ................
..................................Is it sexist, a hypocrisy or both"

I vote for none of the above, airheaded punditry is my choice.

"never attribute to evil when stupidity will suffice"

Jack

Heather...good point.

Here's my "irony of the day" before I run off to the gym:

Doesn't the sight of all these party elders (superdelegates one and all) pressuring Hillary to drop out (and therefore decide the race before all the votes have been cast or counted) amount to the very process that the Obama camp was decrying as undemocratic just a few weeks ago?

If the Democratic nominating process pretends to have any semblance of integrity, why were places like Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Indiana even allowed to SCHEDULE primaries long after the time that these so-called "party elders" now seem to agree that the decision should have been made lest the party be destroyed?

"never attribute to evil when stupidity will suffice"

Jack

Now I have to get another cup of coffee because the first cup is all over my screen. Where did that come from and I want it on a Tshirt

LL,
That is a feverish article...
Read it in one breath,had heard of the guy, but didn´t know, how he operated....

Want to know how he stands at this moment though.- Of course we will not know....yet

‘The Gathering Storm’: One Democrat’s Analysis of Anti-Obama Feeling Among Democrats

Posted by: GORDO

I hope the Hillary supporters remember how the MSM had to prop up B. "Dorian Gray" O. and tear into Hillary to achieve their ignoble end.

toast

By the way...I do give Obama, himself, and Howard Dean major kudos for not encouraging the calls for Hillary to drop out. At least they're protecting the integrity of the process -- even if many of Obama's supporters choose not to.

Howard Dean maybe but nothing to Obama h may say one thing in public but his campaign is driving the get out Clinton bus.

KGC

I think I heard it from a College instructor mumble,mumble years ago. He was an east coast type, Harvard grad, McAurther genius grant and all that stuff. I have found it to be a workable assumption when dealing with the world.

Jack

Thanks Craig... I think my post I had already posted and took off one of the links.

About the blog re: hard feelings by Hillary supporters over the lovefest by media, et al with Barack Obama... well that sounds a lot like the blog I posted. I don't know if anyone read it, but I see NO ONE left a comment. Please feel free.... It's just the thoughts as came to me...

http://eurotom.blogspot.com/

P.S. I will probably be posting a bit less for the next 6 days. I am at 90% of my monthly bandwidth allowance, thanks to uploading many photos to my MySpace profile from Portofino ... Anyway, I'll be here, but not as much.

Not too much celebrating now ;-)

Tom

http://www.myspace.com/eurotom

OK, Lardass, you trying to be sarcastic or sumpin'? You don't seem to grasp the concept that consistency is only required of the Clinton campaign and the DNC rules only apply against large states and candidates without family ties to the almighty.

I wonder if some of HRC's vows to stick it out through the convention were a plea to her donors that their money would still have an effect.

Yesterday's WaPost story, an interview scheduled at HRC's request (a detail the reporters oddly pointed out), conceded that her only chance is superdelegates and an upset at the convention. How does the party recover from that and defeat McCain a little more than 2 months later?

HUD Secretary FINALLY resigns:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. housing secretary has resigned and will leave office April 18, he said on Monday.

Housing and Urban Development Secretary Alphonso Jackson said that he is leaving office "to attend more diligently to personal and family matters."

In recent days, Jackson has faced calls for his resignation after lawmakers have said he behaved improperly in awarding federal contracts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/31/AR2008033100871.html?hpid=topnews

to attend more diligently to personal and family matters."
from dog's post

Like working with his lawyer. Maybe fed prison officials can have a Bush wing. A special cell for Rove.

Today's must read:

"The more Sharyn probed, the more it became clear that her mother is channelling a lifetime of slights and hope into one vote.

"Now there's a glass ceiling," explains Sharyn, a 61-year-old retired teacher. "Before, there were glass doors."

In a few weeks, Geri - a fiscal conservative who thinks Clinton, more than Republican John McCain, can restore a centrist stability to a nation adrift - will try to shatter what's left of those barriers."

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local/20080330_Monica_Yant_Kinney__It_s_never_too_late_to_vote_your_heart.html?text=xlg

Freed Ex-Governor of Alabama Talks of Abuse of
By ADAM NOSSITER
Published: March 29, 2008
MONTGOMERY, Ala. — Former Gov. Don Siegelman of Alabama, released from prison Friday on bond in a bribery and corruption case, said he was as convinced as ever that politics had played a leading role in his prosecution.

Rob Carr/Associated Press
Don Siegelman blames Karl Rove for his prosecution.
Speaking by telephone in his first post-prison interview, shortly after he had left the federal penitentiary at Oakdale, La., Mr. Siegelman said there had been “abuse of power” in his case, and repeatedly cited Karl Rove, the former White House political director.

LUSHisLINDA, I am horrified beyond words that we did not meet in person at the Charlottesville event Saturday. Sick to my stomach, in fact. Please don't be shy next time. I did meet some of our lurkers who were there, would have loved to chat with you.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/03/clintons-tortured-path-to-vict.html#comment-60274

Obama: Another super, exaggeration Posted: Monday, March 31, 2008 9:12 AM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: 2008, Obama
at msnbc and they are his friends.

ET:

Good post...I left you a comment.

“Late last year, in response to a Politico story about Obama’s answers to the original questionnaire, his aides said he ‘never saw or approved’ the questionnaire. They asserted the responses were filled out by a campaign aide who ‘unintentionally mischaracterize(d) his position.’ But a Politico examination determined that Obama was actually interviewed about the issues on the questionnaire by the liberal Chicago non-profit group that issued it. And it found that Obama – the day after sitting for the interview – filed an amended version of the questionnaire, which appears to contain Obama’s own handwritten notes adding to one answer.”

More: “Through an aide, Obama, who won the group’s endorsement as well as the statehouse seat, did not dispute that the handwriting was his. But he contended it doesn’t prove he completed, approved – or even read – the latter questionnaire. "

what?

"Senator Barack H. Obama Jr. repeatedly refused to provide any responses to citizens on the issues through the 2008 Political Courage Test when asked to do so by national leaders of the political parties, prominent members of the media, Project Vote Smart President Richard Kimball, and Project Vote Smart staff."

"We are scrupulously non-partisan -- our founding board, headed by former presidents Carter and [until his death] Ford, is carefully balanced, and we do not lobby, support or oppose any candidate, issue or cause. To protect the independence and integrity of this Voter's Self-Defense System of information, Project Vote Smart does not accept funding from government or corporate sources, or any special interest group that lobbies. Our sources of support are entirely individual memberships and foundation grants."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/03/questions_for_obama.html

what is he afraid of

http://www.votesmart.org/

Here's the WaPost front page story yesterday, Clinton Vows to Stay in Race to Convention.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/29/AR2008032901909.html

My questions: when asked if Obama can win, she "deflects" that question and says she will pull in the women's vote.

That's likely not enough to win with, and she never says it will be.

SO: is this a message that she will stay in through Puerto Rico (barring a really bad showing in Indiana, I guess) and until the Florida/MI votes are resolved -- i.e. pressure on DNC to settle the matter before the convention so she can make a graceful exit?

Assume it's also signal to her donors, since she needs money.

What do you think? Article was as interesting for what it said as what it did not.

Jack/KGC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor

Obama refuses to answer questions.
Little media availablity and no questions
and now he won't answer questions from a non partisan group that has provided info for citizens just wanting to know more about the candidates

what is he hiding?

Jamie

Thanks. I love it.

I knew the Heinlein quote, but after reading the whole article, I've fallen in love with the British version:

Cock-up before conspiracy

Fact strapped Huffinton Post one-ups Drudge - posts unattributed snippet about Clinton campaign, failing to identify author of piece, identity of source or companies mentioned in snippet. Snippet is posted via link on political blogs and represented as factual.

Sorry Craig I could not make it Saturday, it was my daughter's 16th B-Day party.

Obama at long last used the lull between primaries late last week to finally address an issue he has preferred to keep in the shadows for the past year -- the full extent of his political and financial relationship with Illinois power broker Tony Rezko, who is now on trial in Chicago on federal corruption charges.

He has yet to respond to the Sunshine Week survey.
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/newspaperbeat_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003726773

gosh another questionnaire he won't answe

Pogo: it's from a longer Politico piece; will put it up for you with excerpts. That was clumsy of HuffPo.

kc, Obama is exhibiting the political courage - or lack thereof - that has kept me from supporting him, and will do so until and if he wins the nomination. We have an all hat, no cattle president now. I don't want another one.

Politico article by Kenneth Vogel: Cash-Strapped Clinton Fails to Pay Bills

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9259.html

Position strapped Obama campaign doesn't want to commit to positons

"How does the party recover from that and defeat McCain a little more than 2 months later?"

Don't worry about it dog...your guy will be handed this nomination. The fix has been in since the beginning, when Tom Daschle encouraged him to run now, before he had a record to question. And as I said before, on Russert's show it was admitted that Obama's campaign determined early on that he couldn't match her on policy so he had to destroy her character.

dog, thanks - I hate unsupported crap - and HuffPo has become bad about that.

Oh no. Now the little Bosnian girl Hillary met on the tarmac has something to say:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03312008/news/worldnews/from_bad_to_verse_for_hill_104288.htm

First the 3am girl and now OUCH!

Reposting the same links over and over just shows the Obama campaign has nothing. TYhrow mud and refuse to answer questions.

Sounds like Bush

Dog: That article illustrates the ultimate strategy of the Obama campaign. His minions do the dirty work while he is allowed to stay above the fray. Members of Obama's campaign call for Hillary to drop out while Obama says she should stay in.

Here's a question for you, let's switch the candidate's victories ... would you honestly want Obama to drop out of the race if the votes in Michigan and Florida had not been counted in his vote totals?

Hillary also brought up another interesting point. As Democrats have whined about the 2000 election results for years she is correct when she states that the Republicans will have a field day with the fact that the Dems have not counted all the votes from all the states. Can you imagine the hysterical coverage by Keith O. and the boys about the DNC holding back poor Barack's votes in some racist conspiracy? Sounds like Special Comment territory, doesn't it?

Quite honestly how Barack Obama can claim his campaign is a shining beacon of light, hope and change while he actively disenfranchises the voters of Florida and Michigan is beyond me. Change? Doesn't look like much has changed since '00.

"I think everyone can agree that HRC put together a piss poor campaign organization"

This one I have to give them. I wonder if it wasn't a case of trusting only those who stayed loyal through all the Impeachment strife.

It does point up one flaw I see in many campaigns. They will shell out huge sums of money for "advisors" who do little but appear in press releases and on letterhead, but they won't shell out $250 - 150,000 for a really good office manager and office staff in each state's campaign office.

These screw ups are almost always the result of too many chiefs and not enough indians.

Patsi, or you suggesting he will win?

I feel her pressured but cannot stand it

Here is an interesting commentary on "Hillary Clinton and the Action Bias"... for those who might want to take a look...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/30/AR2008033001582.html

Thanks to Patsi, Jamie, Pogo and Wendy for reading my blog and posting comments. Thanks a lot! Others feel free please, regardless of whom you support. http://eurotom.blogspot.com/

This may have been posted yesterday. If so, sue me.

More politics of hope and change - ingratiating one's self to the powerful - even if it ain't true.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/29/AR2008032902031.html?hpid=topnews

Perhaps the campaign statement should read, "I had hoped what I said about the Kennedies getting my father to America was true - it made a great story - but I had to change it when I found out what I said about it wasn't true."

"Perhaps the campaign statement should read, "I had hoped what I said about the Kennedies getting my father to America was true - it made a great story - but I had to change it when I found out what I said about it wasn't true." - Pogo

Here's one more sentence to add to that quote, "At least I didn't lie about dodging bullets, so there!"

And if you're bored and want to see something awesome, check out this kid dancing... he's awesome... If he keeps with it, he'll be a MAJOR dancer I think

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=31052807

Dog: “What do you think? Article was as interesting for what it said as what it did not.”

Yessir, I think that there is definitely the sound of silent dog whistles emanating from the Clinton campaign. They are in a desperate make-or-break race against time, expectations and realities. Cash being important for what it would signal to the super delegates that she must have to attempt the difficult three-cushion bank shot she plans to unveil in Denver.

Witness Carville’s recent attacks on NM Gov Bill Richardson. They are behind in both pledged delegates and in the popular vote; they cannot survive a further erosion of super delegate support.

Graceful exits, I very much doubt we will see.

Obama practices the big lie technique

ET, you're welcome. Your blog posts are well thought out and thorough, and I certainly enjoy them - now that I've visited. I recommend it to everyone.

ET: I had meant to stop by several times. I wanted to give you some encouragement about dieting.

I have so much to share when it comes to losing weight. I have lost what is the equivalent to an average size person over the years. Can't bring myself to tell you how much I've gained back!

Yep...the little Bosnia girl speaks...and what did she say...

"I was just excited," she said. "I wanted to look [Clinton] in the eye and say, 'Thank you.'"

Yep...that's right...Thank You Hillary!

GAK - lol. Of course he would have had to visit some place that was a war zone to lie about bullets dodged. At least McCain has been to Iraq - dressed in his best flak jacket and helmet - doesn't mean I'll vote for him on a darem, though.

"Patsi, or you suggesting he will win?
I feel her pressured but cannot stand it"

Jason -- I think that no matter what happens, unless Obama implodes, the super delagates will hand him the nomination. Let's be perfectly blunt. They believe that the Hillary supporters are more loyal democrats who will return to the fold. Obama's newbies and Republicans won't stick around. And, of course, they fear alienating the AA voters.

The thing that has been fascinating, much the same was watching a cobra sway is fascinating, is how the pundits can say with straight faces that the Rev. Wright problem won't hurt Obama in the primary but could be a killer in the general. And then with those same faces they say that Hillary is not electable.

What are they really saying? McCain already has it?

Mustard: You are correct. You will not see a graceful exit. The minute HRC would quit the race the attacks on her character would continue and the MSM would bloviate on how her quitting has set back women's rights 100's of years.

She is a tough fighter and I expect her to go the distance. Quitting is not in her nature.

"Sick to my stomach, in fact."
--Craig

Awwwww, Craig...not as sick as I am!! I wanted to just walk right up to you and say "hey"...I really, really tried to make myself do it...I am such an introvert...it sux!!

Actually, I blame "vadaryl"...I mean, did he and Iris really have to be with their daughter(Hilary) on her birthday??

LOLOLOLOL...hey Daryl!!!

The MSM does not discuss one part of Clinton's base: racist Dems. Many of the "older white women" group, for instance, are probably not supporting Hillary because she's female, but because she is white. They look at Obama and think, "purse snatcher."

Say is it just me, or are we all getting along a little better these days ? I hope so... I think if we all met we'd like each other very much. That might sound a bit pollyanna-ish, but it's how I feel... Ok I am back to work for a little while.

Thanks for the comments again... I really appreciate it, and even when folks disagree I learn from it...

Many warm thoughts ...

ME

They look at Obama and think, "purse snatcher."

I guess his grandmother is voting for Clinton

Thinking the unthinkable: suppose Obama wins PA?

" The minute HRC would quit the race the attacks on her character would continue and the MSM would bloviate on how her quitting has set back women's rights 100's of years."

You are so right.

"The MSM does not discuss one part of Clinton's base: racist Dems. Many of the "older white women" group,"

I'm not even sure you deserve an answer to that one, Nash. It sure as hell pisses me off, though. Are you a "typical white man" who is voting for Obama because you are an oinker?

More about the little Bosnian girl who greeted HRC at Tuzla airstrip. Goes beyond Wendy!'s carefully selected quote:

"Emina Bicakcic, now 20 and studying to become a doctor, told The Post she stood on the tarmac at the air base in Tuzla, greeted Clinton and even had time to share the lines of verse she'd written - all without fear of attack from an unseen enemy.

"I was surprised when I heard this," Bicakcic said, referring to Clinton's assertion that she braved snipers upon landing, ducking and sprinting to military vehicles. ......

Bicakcic, asked if she feared any threat of violence that day, said she felt just the opposite.

"No," she said, speaking at her home in Sarajevo, the Bosnian capital. "I was just excited. I wanted to look [Clinton] in the eye and say, 'Thank you.' "

And Clinton, she said, seemed far more interested in her poem than in dashing for shelter.

"She was really listening," Bicakcic recalled. "She was drinking in every word of my poem."

Her poem begins with the words, "Peace has come."

Bicakcic said she was reluctant to criticize Clinton's account of that day because of a deep appreciation for the US role in ending Bosnia's bloody nightmare.

A picture of the girl's meeting with the then-first lady - signed and inscribed by Clinton - has become a treasured family heirloom.

Still, Bicakcic admitted that she is not supporting Clinton in her contest against Barack Obama.

"I'm staying neutral," she said, declining to discuss the issue further. "I have very mixed emotions about it. It's a difficult situation for me."

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Yes, a child would have been thrilled and happy to be included in the greeting ceremony, and she'd treasure her memento of the day. Further, I'm sure Mrs. Clinton was genuinely touched by Emma's poem and presence.

But there was more to the story.

=====

Last: article mentioned 1994 visit to Sarajevo, during active hostilities, by " now-deceased former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto and former Turkish Prime Minister Tansu Ciller. .... In an effort to call attention to Sarajevo's plight, the two female heads of state donned flak jackets and were driven throughout the heart of the bullet-riddled city at the height of the conflict. Two days after their visit, 69 people were killed in a mortar attack on a central market."

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In fairness to HRC, the Secret Service would never have allowed her into that situation.

signed, dog, Obama Bosnian girl story gang member

The politics of destruction but not of answering questions Charges of racism and flinging poo

Today;s Obama gang supporters have proved the point.

Apologies the 12:33 post was so long. I culled only the items directly related to the Bosnian greeting girl; lots of snark in rest of article by other Bosnians. Did not realize it would take up so much of Craig's real estate!

And would not have excerpted it at all had Wendy! not cherry-picked the quote.

Did not want to leave a misperception there.

Patsi: Do you deny that there are racists in the Democratic party? My point is that the MSM never talks about that.

Hey nash!!!!

These postings are like a reunion....thought i would get into the act!!! ;0)

So...here's the deal ..or how I see it anyway... I say, if Democrats really want this to be decided and then rally around the winner and focus on McOldcoot, then please oh please just vote en masse for Obama in the Penn primary. That'd pretty much decide it. But if Hillary wins, then she has every right to stay in ... I am a little concerned that Obama's wins are in states that are going to go Rep in November .. however, the sheer numbers of dem voters in all these primaries and cauci (have we decided the word indeed IS cauci?? lol) and the money raised by both candidates has got to bode well for November.. as long as the eventual winner embraces the second-placer -- and not only encourages but welcomes their supporters into the big circle. And as long as the second-placer encourages his/her supporters to JOIN the big circle ... I sure hope the speeches at the convention are barnburners .. the kind that energize and mobilize dems all over the country..

Nash,

There are racists in the democratic party. Over 8 million so far, they all voted for Clinton.

Just looked at the UC Law School news release page:
http://www.law.uchicago.edu/news/index.html

Looks like they've pulled the news release saying that he was a de facto Professor of Law. Guess de jure trumps de facto.

Words matter.

tylenol

I'd like to associate myself with your remarks.

How's Mr. T staple free?

Flatus

Don't expect this information to be mentioned in the "fudging the truth a bit" reports from MSM.

Flatus

I wonder who Obama bullied at the University to lie for him.

Patsi: Do you deny that there are racists in the Democratic party? My point is that the MSM never talks about that.

Posted by: nash | March 31, 2008 12:40 PM

With all due respect Nash, that's basically all the MSM was talking about when President Clinton was campaigning for his wife in South Carolina. Every angle, every statement that could be twisted to somehow mean he was a racist, was reported as a "racist statement"... While MSM didn't come right out and say Hillary's supporters are "racist", the implications were there.

And frankly, everyone IS racist. We fight it each day, we challenge ourselves, we try to overcome it, but it's not always easy. I wish as much attention would be given to sexism and the sexists who promulgate it each and every day.

Mr. T is coming along.. this is going to be a long recovery tho, his foot, which was damaged when the circulation was cut off by the embolism, is slowly repairing itself, but it's still causing some discomfort... the scars, tho, are healing well .. thanks for asking, KGC..

Flatus

There does seem to be a great deal of "rewriting" in Sen. Obama's past. Without any form of vetting by the MSM, then these bubbles don't get burst.
The disillusion could prove very painful.

Tylenol
Good news. I guess I'm a person of semi-faith. I do believe in the "good thought" theory.

Here's the latest Michigan proposal

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/03/31/politics/p095700D12.DTL&tsp=1

There are racists supporting Obama - See my 9:40AM post :

Racists again endorse Obama on candidate's website"

key phrase to take note of:

". . . and partly on the popular vote in all the nation's presidential primaries."

I want to say something. I like Barack Obama. I just like Hillary more. That is all.... :-)

Wendy are you a folk singer?

Guess who I had live on my radio show once?

DAR WILLIAMS

She was in Olympia aka Olytown to open for JOAN BAEZ.

She was great. Girlfriend is supporting Obama, but c'est la vie.

I say seat FI & MI based on the existing results , immediately after May 6th.
It won't make a difference then and Camp Hillary will be happy.
I still see Hillary as the inevitable VP candidate.,there is absolutely no way around that.

George

Be sure to let your candidate know your stand on Florida and Michigan. Why wait until 5/6?

It is not racism not voting for obama IT IS HIS QUESTIONABLE FREINDS AND YES HIS PAYOFF FROM REZKO PERIOD

KGC
Thats how long it will take to send Bill into exile for 8 years..
That way it will be an Obama/Hillary Administration.

Jamie, KGC

Judge Judy would surely say, "Liar, liar pants on fire!!"

The universities know on which side their bread is buttered.

Back in Florida in '95 or '96, an 'important' state senator became angry at NPR affiliate WMNF, the great community radio station in Tampa:
http://www.wmnf.org//

The big shot pulled their annual appropriation from the state budget. I called the director of the 'establishment' NPR station up the street, WUSF. He recognized my name because my family were substantial donors.

I asked that he offer his station's editorial support of its poor second cousin. He declined, undoubtedly realizing that it would have placed his own stipend in jeopardy.

I thanked him and sent his current year's five figure contribution to WMNF.

YES, let's hear it for community radio! Where I worked was KAOS...

http://www.kaosradio.org ... I miss it !!!!

Tom

Gordo:
"There are racists supporting Obama - See my 9:40AM post "

Nash
"The MSM does not discuss one part of Clinton's base: racist Dems"

LOL

So which one is the evil twin?

Jack

Meanwhile on the Straight Talk Epress

Charlie Rose falsely asserted McCain "call[ed] for the firing of Secretary Rumsfeld"
Summary: During an interview with Sen. Chuck Hagel, Charlie Rose falsely asserted that Sen. John McCain "early on call[ed] for the firing of Secretary Rumsfeld." In fact, while McCain expressed "no confidence" in Rumsfeld in 2004, he did not call for him to be fired; he said the decision about whether Rumsfeld should leave was the president's.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200803310001

"Dems, Reps Agree: Obama Tougher Opponent for McCain"

"A new Gallup Panel survey (3/31) finds a majority of both Republicans and Democrats saying Barack Obama has a better chance than Hillary Clinton of defeating Republican John McCain in the November presidential election."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/105904/Dems-Reps-Agree-Obama-Tougher-Opponent-McCain.aspx

Read em and weep.:)

Why does ANYONE on this forum need to justify their likes or dislikes with respect to the candidates? We are free to like or dislike them in any way we choose.

I don't question anyone's support for Senator Obama. Mainly, I question the Senator's campaign tactics. I do not like a candidate that claims to be something he isn't. That's how we got stuck with our current nightmare commander-in-chief.

National polls are largely meaningless said David Axelrod, Obama's chief strategist,

National polls are largely meaningless because the nominating process is a state-by-state contest?

As far as the media is concerned it goes beyond bias for Obama its downright hatred for Hillary and the Clintons in general, just look at David Shuster’s comment on Chelsea, a more recent example was on “Beltway Boys” on Faux News, with sub host Bill Sammon and Mort Kondracke where he made the statement that the 28% of Hillary supporters that would vote McCain in the general election were all redneck racists that would never vote for an African American. I cannot tell you how angry that made me because it was a statement without sourcing, researching, and documented proof. I know Kondracke suffered in his life and battled addiction to alcohol and recently lost his wife to Parkinson’s Disease so I’ll cut him some slack but he was still dead wrong to say that and he should know better as a veteran journalist.

--Heather

Poll: Clinton closing gap in N.C. | newsobserver.com projects

Hanky Rezdog?

KGC,

That's not a national head- to-head poll.

As far as the media is concerned it goes beyond bias for Obama its downright hatred for Hillary and the Clintons in general, just look at David Shuster’s comment on Chelsea, a more recent example was on “Beltway Boys” on Faux News, with sub host Bill Sammon and Mort Kondracke where he made the statement that the 28% of Hillary supporters that would vote McCain in the general election were all redneck racists that would never vote for an African American. I cannot tell you how angry that made me because it was a statement without sourcing, researching, and documented proof. I know Kondracke suffered in his life and battled addiction to alcohol and recently lost his wife to Parkinson’s Disease so I’ll cut him some slack but he was still dead wrong to say that and he should know better as a veteran journalist.

I don’t deny that there are some racists that support Hillary as there are African American racists that support Obama. What I object to is that Kondracke said that the entire 28% was without any basis in fact and to my way of thinking to make a comment in that context has to have been motivated by nothing other than intense aversion toward Hillary Clinton

--Heather

I apologize i did not paste the whole comment off MS Office earlier left off the last paragraph

I would like to say to the BO supporters. You really do delight in goading and in essence rubbing it in.

Well better enjoy it now, because if Bo gets the nomination, (and I know of 10) yes 10 women and Men who will not vote or will vote for McC, he will definitely lose. You think all this msm attention and non vetting is so great. Well wait until the gop gets ahold of him. No more friendly remarks from Rove.or msm.
It will be katy bar the door, no holds held back.
There are more than you think democrats out there that have voted for Hillary than Bo. His is indep, gop, AA and few democ white.. His states are all gop in general. She holds more - more - more - electoral college votes than he does.. AT least hers are democratic voters in democratic states..

Then it will be up to the Clinton supporters to either be
nice or return the favor to you who are so nasty.. Just remember - what goes around comes around-.

Julie

Frankly, I haven't trusted any thing the American people have said or done since they voted for GWB ... TWICE!!!

Polls truly are meaningless ... especially in an election cycle when the day's events can turn things around in the blink of an eye.

A focus group?

Here have a box of kleenex?

Projection: Clinton Wins Popular Vote, Obama Wins Delegate Count
Michael Barone

"The Clinton campaign has taken to boasting that its candidate has won states with more electoral votes than has Barack Obama. True. By my count, Clinton has won 14 states with 219 electoral votes (16 states with 263 electoral votes if you include Florida and Michigan) while Obama has won 27 states (I'm counting the District of Columbia as a state, but not the territories) with 202 electoral votes. Eight states with 73 electoral votes have still to vote. In percentage terms, Clinton has won states with 41 percent of the electoral votes (49 percent if you include Florida and Michigan), while Obama has won states with 38 percent of electoral votes. States with 14 percent of the electoral votes have yet to vote.

The Clinton campaign would do even better to use population rather than electoral votes, since smaller states are overrepresented in the Electoral College. By my count, based on the 2007 Census estimates, Clinton's states have 132,214,460 people (160,537,525 if you include Florida and Michigan), and Obama's states have 101,689,480 people. States with 39,394,152 people have yet to vote. In percentage terms this means Clinton's states have 44 percent of the nation's population (53 percent if you include Florida and Michigan) and Obama's states have 34 percent of the nation's population. The yet-to-vote states have 13 percent of the nation's population."

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2008/3/28/projection-clinton-wins-popular-vote-obama-wins-delegate-count.html

I'll save my tears (of joy) when Hill falls out.:)

"I was absolutely sincere about the feeling that the Democratic Party is assuming that women of a certain age :-) have worked so long and hard for the ideals of equality and justice, that unlike the new Obama sign ons, we won't desert them now. They shouldn't be quite so sure."

Jamie, so true. The Obama campaign and the Democratic leadership are really taking us for granted because they know that we can see the big picture unlike the newbies that are getting their first real taste of politics and a political campaign in general. That's not a knock on the support that Obama is getting. It's reality. Democratic leadership is counting on us to do the right thing ... AGAIN.

The Obama campaign and the Democratic leadership are really taking us for granted because they know that we can see the big picture unlike the newbies that are getting their first real taste of politics and a political campaign in general

Posted by: GAKaren | March 31, 2008 3:01 PM

Not True....Obama Campaign would love to embrace all of you and have you as supporters.

Hey Dog,

I second that. Whoever this person is, is calling the kettle black. A troll is a troll after all.

Heather,

Glad I didn't take your tout seriously Saturday (TVG).
Elysium Fields(5/2) finished next to last in an 11 horse field.

Welcome to the Obama Campaign

http://pop.youtube.com/watch?v=UisxOG5OY_8&feature=related

Dog, Sheila...

What's really annoying to me is that ROTFLMAO just cut and paste that post from something I posted two or three days ago...not even putting it in quotations or anything. So now...we're dealing not only with anonymity cloaked in anonymity, but recycled posts or snippets of posts taken out of context. I give up.

LL,

Thats horrible! That's not only plagerism, its simply evil to be using someone elses words to slam someone else....and without permission too.

"When you constantly look to insult someone based on rather meaningless issues "

I don't consider a snarky smirk or comment a meaningless issue. It is a symptom of a deeper condition: A seeming lack of respect for other human beings. Repeatedly his "humor" has been of the put down variety while hers has been of the "humon comedy" type. That says a lot about people.

Bowling anyone?

Hey Sheila-I thought plagerism was a sacrement now!

But Jamie, Honestly. You remarks about his "smirk" is not backed up by fact since a majority haven't seen it as a smirk. So in fact, you are judging Obama based on a feeling that you get from his smile.

That is your right, but it is also seen as a slight every time you put it in a post with no factual backup. just sayin.

Speaking of crying for Hillary,

Here's an afternoon music interlude for the Clinton camp.;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbkdweA-DOU&feature=related

Hey Sheila-I thought plagerism was a sacrement now!

Posted by: Melanie | March 31, 2008 3:29 PM

Melanie, Not according to the Pontif. ;0)

Rez

McCain ran out of money too and still won.

Sheila; Thank you for your comments, I appreciate what you are saying. As I posted last night, the internet has become a rather hostile place for Hillary Clinton supporters. CC's forum is a breath of fresh air.

I have been lumping Obama supporters together because I and others have received some rather rude treatment from them on various sites including here, unfortunately.

I hope we can all come together. I remember much ugliness in the '00 primary from Nader supporters and my recollection of the '04 contest is that Dean supporters were quite divisive. I suppose there is always one camp that gets so vocal out of their passion about their candidate that feelings do get hurt. It's human nature. Truthfully, this is nothing new, it just didn't seem like it was this bad during those contests. I guess there is so much more at stake this time around.

And yes, thank you, I do consider myself a patriot. I believe everyone here is a patriot also.

My theory on why Obama can't bowl: It's impossible to hold a bowling ball properly while at the same time executing his favorite Kennedyesque tic of thumb pressed to forefinger while gesturing thoughtully with hand.

That gesture totally screws with your bowling technique.

Dog...I don't think you have anything to worry about. By the way, Max's posts are now available as a boxed set. :)

Sheila, My mistake but there are some new sins. But I'm sure Sen. Obama has not commited ANY of them. He can take anybody's words. I gotta go-almost time for Madame Cafferty's first complaint of the day how Sen. Clinton is destroying life as we know it. Have a nice day.

Thanks GaKaren,

I believe we are all patriots too. I am over the acts. I've licked my wounds and I'm ready to tackle you all too.

but more than that, this is MY home too. I want to post and not get attacked for my beliefs. I was never acted for believing in something someone else didn't before.

You and others may be into scrapping, but I am into reasoned debate.

I'm not saying you aren't. I'm saying I welcome anyone who was treated like shit (quarter in the jar) anywhere else. just not right!

but lets (not you) all try to get along for ourselves and POOR CRAIG. lol It must be jaring some times to read all this stuff.

This too shall pass, right Craig?

Just because others don't say it, doesn't mean others don't see it. And I've never phrased anything of this sort as anything more than my opinion. That is all it is, my opinion of the man. Others have mentioned those qualities of glib and superficial ... again just their opinion. I find him untrustworthy... my opinion. None of that requires facts or backup.

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/10/31/F_OBAMA_narrowweb__300x375,0.jpg

Melanie!

have a great day! I love Cafferty!

Oh Dog......I have three for my BIVWAC after an extra long time with the Royals!......Madame was pleased for once. I am spending this one in bed.

Tomorrow and the next day? working out, lanudry, and get my hair done. Two weeks left of "Palm Beach From Hell."

"By the way, Max's posts are now available as a boxed set."- LaL

ROFL, sorry Max, but that's a good one!

"Wendy are you a folk singer?"

Not in any official way...mostly around the house and a few little shows back in the USC days...nothing now...

LOVE Dar Williams!!!

Oh no , Mme. Cafferty's first bitch of the day is about Pres. Clinton not Hillary. But OF COURSE he is calling for her to exit. This is what I don't get. If Obama is a sure thing why are his supporters all up in arms? They can't take it, and are worried. Did you notice Jamal S. looked a little sheepish on Situation with Carville? He has lost some of his "smirk".

Dog: I enjoyed your post. We all get blogorrhea! (God knows I do.)

I see some of your points about disenfranchisement but the whole situation taints whoever the nominee is ultimately.

I agree that perhaps the silver lining in all this will be an overhaul of the Democratic primary system. Hopefully, they will OUTLAW open primaries among other needed changes! My biggest concern is that Republicans have a seat at the table in choosing our nominee. That really bothers me.

Jamie and others that have discussed the caucus system are correct. It's a piss poor system. My concern is that we don't have one brain among Democratic leadership to get everything fixed by 2012.

Hope they don't put Pelosi or Reid in charge of any overhaul! LOL

Jamie, my friend.

Like I said, its right to feel that way. just stating my opinion of your use of smirk and why it keeps getting brought up.

And to me, that picture looks like Obama is talking to her in the middle of a Photo Op. I get weird pics to.

Sheila, Craig's in the line of business where boring=bad.

Which doesn't meant poor research, cronyism with the people one is reporting on, fabrication, or a multitude of other journalistic sins are needed to be published and to prosper.

Thank goodness, Craig is above all those things.

I second jamie's emotion about McCain - it gives me heartburn to think of him in the WH even if he claims it would be for only 4 years (and I for one think he's hedging that bet and being a little too clever by half when he talks about it). I. for one, will not do anything in the GE to advance McC's chances of becoming president although Charlie Cook doesn't think my vote will matter a damn in November - an occupational hazard of mine is giving a shit about the federal judiciary, even if it means voting for a progressive candidate despite my (very serious) misgivings about him, rather than a superficially jocular straight talking bullshitter who would put the same goddamned judicial candidates up for consideration that the current superficially jocular straight talking bullshitter has, ultimately at the cost of damage to the amendments to the constitution that bestow personal rights on me and my ken. No thank you, very much, although knowing that my state would go either way with or without my vote might make me have a different view of the matter.

I ment "Your Right" jamie

Hey...don't get me wrong Rez. I enjoy most of Max's posts. But they often are stunningly long. And the fact that he cranks them out while mult-tasking on other stuff is what is truly amazing. It's like those phone-sex operators who are able simultaneously to do laundry and other household chores with their hair up in curlers.

GAKaren- Good one. Pelosi and Reid are terrible. The democrats need a major overhaul. Gray day in GA. I'm freezing in my house. Karen do you have these high ceilings too?

Flatus, I agree whole heartedly. Craig has been a good friend above all here on the blog.

He does seem to be doing that, lol. . maybe he's working for Playgirl.

Lardass-You are on a roll today!

GaKaren and Dog,

I'll go one further. I think the Primary process should be not only just Primaries, but all on one day....sheez! This is crazy and just wrong.

This ones for you Jamie.

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Hillary-Clinton-Sen-Hillary-Rodham-Clinton-Madisonville-North-Hopkins-High-School/ss/events/pl/081702hillary/im:/080330/480/677cdb5ecc2248b8b3904b5d91b0e316/

Melanie: Yes! Those high ceilings are awful. They don't put efficient windows in these houses either. I'm used to warmer windows and insulation since I'm from Chicago originally.

This is all MLB's fault. The weather always gets cold in opening day cities. Wouldn't want to be at the Braves' game tonight.

Dog,

That was the only photo I could find that didn't come from some right wing hate site and still came close to capturing the expression that bothers me when he tosses off one of those snarky "you're good enough" type remarks.

And this is her most common expression

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Hillary-Clinton-Sen-Hillary-Rodham-Clinton-Madisonville-North-Hopkins-High-School/ss/events/pl/081702hillary/im:/080330/480/677cdb5ecc2248b8b3904b5d91b0e316/#photoViewer=/080330/480/e48970fa7c1a41e8ac39218d960aafe2

GAKaren-no Braves tonight , but I have to make up a tennis match. What a drag! I'm from PGH and used to sit at Steeler games in30 degrees but I can't take it anymore.

Dear Rezdog:

You are correct, I could not bet him anyway unless I went to OTB here in NY but call me funny I like to be at the rack when the horse races and I was betting blind as I did not see is PP on the DRF I primarily liked him on breeding for distance> The chalk however won the race.

I will wait for the Wood Memorial @ the Big "A" and see if Court Vision is entered the breeding blows me away, "you breed the best to the best and hope for the best" When you come from a line that includes Northern Dancer, Secretariat, , Raise A Native, Mr. Prospector, Storm Bird, and Gulch thats one heck of a lineage, the Rolls Royce of breeding, and thats just on the sire side, the dam side is equally impressive with Summer Squall, Seeking The Gold and A.P. Indy of course great breeding doesn't always work out, one wonders if he may be over bred He is a little on the young side having been foaled in July which means he will not be three until July but they all turn three in Jan. lol

Well this thoroughbred has a lot of legacy to live up to.

At least my pick in March Madness is still alive UCLA or YUKE YUKE YUKE as the chant goes.

--Heather

Jamie,

I really didn't mean for my picture to come at the same time as you were expressing yourself.

GAKaren, of course one doesn't need to justify one's like or dislike for a candidate (or any other person). Certainly not to someone else--it's simply not their business.

I like being able to justify it, or at least rationalize it, to myself. How else can I some inkling that I'm not being simply capricious or mean spirited?

Once that's done, having the approval of others is of little importance. And, it makes it much easier to sleep at night.

Melanie: I am such a wimp when it gets cold now. The first fall I lived here I reached for a jacket at my son's September evening baseball game. I was horrified to find out that the temperature had only dropped to 68 degrees! In my defense, it was windy.

I used to walk around with my coat unzipped in below zero temperatures! What happened?

Concerning Bosnia....Sinbad grew up in Benton Harbor , Mi. Any place would seem safe compared to Benton Harbor.

Flatus,

If I can say,

I agree again....wholeheartedly. ;0)

Good Mario Cuomo article

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/03/29/how_to_avoid_a_democratic_disaster/

Darn, Sheila, I better go cook dinner before my luck changes! :)

Current Derby Odds

Elysium Fields is now 50 to 1

http://www.horsehats.com/DerbyContenders.html

http://www.alternet.org/election08/80589

here's a piece that will impact all of us. We should forward this all over the country.

HI NASH!

as I said before I will not vote for Obama.If Mccain was good enough for Kerry to ask him to be his running mat then he is good enough for me .We survived 8 years of Bush so I think we can last another 4 under McCain.Don't think I could handle even one year of Obama,especially having to put up with the gloating media.And I am an older "white Woman"without racial prejudice.Just hate the predjudice against women.And I don't trust Obama with all his radical and criminal type friends.I'm from Ill. and if he had a worthwhile opponent he would have never been elected to Senate

Here are the horses considered in the top 10 as of now. Most face major races this coming Saturday

http://www.courant.com/sports/other/hc-derbybox0331.artmar31,0,5194820.story

Evans fired Deputy Campaign Manager David Sirota, a 23-year-old Northwestern University graduate, after learning that an acquaintance of Sirota's had created the controversial site, which posed as rival John White's official campaign page.

The Web site highlighted a quote -- which White claims was taken greatly out of context -- from an interview with the Spanish-speaking newspaper Al Dia. In English, the quote reads: "The black and the brown, if we unite, we're going to control the city."

White, a former head of the Philadelphia Housing Authority, said that the quote was misconstrued as a racially motivated comment aimed at minority voters, while the intended meaning was that African Americans and Latinos could achieve higher political standing by working together. Both Evans and White are African American.

Oh and Thanks Colleen for linking that one to me. ;0)

I'll save my tears (of joy) when Hill falls out.:)

Posted by: Rezdog | March 31, 2008 2:53 PM

Rez, that's just being silly...

Painter,

Are you an artist? What do you do?

Rez, I'd like to apologise.. I see now that your comment was in response to offers of tissues ... sorry for the intrusion. :)

Dave Sirota is just more evidence the Obama campaign uses race to div ide.

Well, this has been one of those looking at it out of the corner of my eye when it's convenient days, and now I have to quit looking at it altogether. It's currently 69 degrees, partly sunny, and I'm starting my 3 day per week exercise my growing ass while Li'l Pogo practices soccer get in shape and lose weight program, which begins in 45 minutes. 'bye now.

as I said before I will not vote for Obama.If Mccain was good enough for Kerry to ask him to be his running mat then he is good enough for me.

Posted by: painter

I agree with you, better McCain than BO.

toast

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20080330_Obama_was_the_first_to_play_the_race_card.html

painter

I have a natural affinity to your moniker also.

toast

And I say, good for you. you have a right to vote for who you think will save the country.

I will be voting straight Dem this year. I happen to think the DEMS are the best in terms of team building and team work. And that is what is needed. One man or one woman are not going to cut it.

The Republican Team is just plain sapped out for creative answers and trustworthy diplomacy. Just my view though.

Flatus,

I bet we agree on much more than just one candidate. ;0)

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9269.html

Another look at Mr. Straight answer. At what point do the various problems and policy inconsistencies doom a Democrat come November?

We Don't Care....LOL

Also, Media warned of a disaster in Sadr land. Then after the fighting stopped, Media now spins it a loss for Maliki anyway because of Iranian influence. Sounds like Media was willing to spin Iraq downward no matter the outcome, yes? Not much today about Maliki taking action in the first place. And should Iran determine whether militants in Iraq listen to their elected leaders, or the MUllahs?

Now didn't Edwards champion those blue collar workers that tend to vote Hillary? Still, the Press is saying they lean towards Obama. Why? Perception preceeds action I guess. Get them to think that way and then the lemmings will follow.

MadMustard dropped in yesterday to caution all that the prize is November and we should consider the extent of fighting....hhmmmm

I think the fight is about the very centristism he claims to endorse. The debate over policy goes way beyond Hillary or Obama and will continue whoever wins the nomination. Obama supporters want Social Liberalism to trump centrist national security (which is hardly a Democrat exclusive). Obama will say he is actually a centrist when it comes to foreign policy and self-defense. But then, as we have seen, he can just about say anything if it serves his spin of the day.

Any media pundits take issue which Obama's absurd spin he'll return us to the traditional foreign policies of Reagan and Bush 1? Does Media even ask what domestic groups Al-Hanooti worked with? INope, not good stories to talk about.

It is interesting that the Obama campaign protests the article I posted above, claiming Obama is not the Liberal, Politico suggests. And let's not look at the endorsements, the friends, the associates, the mentors and advisors to Obama, either.

Yes, it is rather silly, isn't it. Kerry says voters should forgive leaders who change their mind. Not unless they're Hillary Clinton or Jon McCain. The deeper truth is what a candidates position really is and whether their friends have really changed their minds.

Dear Jamie:
I saw your link and shock shock Court Vision not on that top ten Big Brown, Georgie Boy {I'm suspicious of geldings running in the derby] will be nowhere in the KD and neither will Dennis of Cork lol. Pyro and Court Vision have great closing kicks traffic permitting

Sincerely.
Heather

Hi max,

My final take on Obama's position is this. He IS as originally Centrist and left as I am. That is why I was attracted to his politics in the furst place.

But when our country's people are in trouble, don't we end up going further left? Or more liberal?

I think in our time of need both Dem candidates are going to fall on the side of the people and if that sounds like too far left or too evil, then you have swallowed exactly what the extreme right want you to believe.

Max, did I get your attention from the “dangerous group of NeoCon dead-enders”, remark?

I’m just curious.

Better address that concern about abortion to Bob Casey

The campaign provides health insurance to all its employees, their spouses, partners and children — and that wasn’t interrupted by any lag in payments to insurance providers, said Jay Carson, a Clinton campaign spokesman.

He said the campaign this month paid off all outstanding bills to Aetna Healthcare and CareFirst BlueCross BlueShield. Those payments will be reflected on a report the campaign will file this month with the Federal Election Commission, which Carson said will show “zero debt owed to both vendors.”

from the link to Drudgico

Rolling the dice with Obush is better?

What if Obama promised Casey the right to veto his Supreme Ct choices

Rolling the dice with Obush is better?

Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 31, 2008 5:15 PM

If that's what you want, ok. Your an american, vote your conscience.

I will Vote for a Democrat, no matter what. I think the Democrats are better.

I forgot to mention... I've added some photos to MY SPACE ... was uploading pics from Portofino when I got warned that I was going over my monthly bandwidth allowance... I had to stop for now. But if you wish to see the photos, here is the link: PORTOFINO

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfmfuseaction=user.editAlbumPhotos&albumID=1682973&MyToken=fd1d54e0-f4d0-4948-a95f-4fad07bb41f3

See if this works

Mr Pro-Life Sen. Casey:
Total hypocrite how can he back Obama who is to the left of NARAL and pro partial birth abortion
You got to love the hypocrisy of these Obama supporters. Unbelievable

--Heather

geez, forget it... the link doesn't work...

I know katie, but this is a public forum and so I was sharing. ;0)

To Milquetoasts point

When asked about the judges he specifically said he would have appointed Sandra Day OConnor when other Republicans were throwing her under the bus.

I am very concerned about the Iraq war, and I really do not believe that any one of the candidates really have any sort of solution. They have ideas only. I also believe that none of the candidates want to see continued American causalities. Some say , yeah we will be out of there, but what if that isn't the best strategy for our country? So who is best equipped for this task?

I do not think anyone knows.

Yep, Mad.

You are wrong if you think the debate between Hillary and Obama is much more than national security and the thrust of the next administration. You claim you are a centrist. Are there any Republican centrists or is centrism a partisan thing?

There are just two major topics; Economic and national security. The rest fall underneath one or the other. Since Obama basically copies the Hillary economic policy, their only really major differences are about foreign policy. I see Obama is all over the place and Hillary pretty consistent. There is only one reason why she is behind; the media and the Party do not wax hawkish nor agree to anything Bush-like whether it is centrist or not. In the fight for the soul of the Party, the DNC is quite ready to cut out the remaining centrism, Jfferson or Adams not withstanding.

Now as a centrist, can you be happy with that and claim the Republicans have no record of centrism? Let's compare Reagan to Carter. Centrism implies bipartisan and rational approach to security. It is defined by quite a long history of the NSS. It is about national self-interest and the promotion of Liberal Democracy, not cultural or moral relativism, or taking the best deal we can get in this unwinnable world as Power suggests.

Tell me JFK would support Obama, or that Obama's claim to return to traditional foreign polcies of Reagan and Bush 1 was not a bad joke. Was Obama talking about Contragate or arming Saddam? Was he talking about the "evil empire" and unilateral threats of an increasing big stick? Was he talking about missile defense and expanding NATO? The problem is of course, who can know. I might as well hold my wet finger in the wind.

Not a very centrist way of finding solutions.

Isn't Sen. Casey anti stem cell research also?

Heather,

It will probably be another one of those crowded fields of qualifiers that I hate because I really believe it is dangerous for the horses. Post position is going to play a major role this year because there isn't any real superstar in the group. In about two weeks, I'll put up the list of all the probables so that everyone can make their pick and then announce if there are any drop outs beyond that point so everyone is sure to have a horse on Derby Day.

I am very concerned about the Iraq war, and I really do not believe that any one of the candidates really have any sort of solution. They have ideas only. I also believe that none of the candidates want to see continued American causalities. Some say , yeah we will be out of there, but what if that isn't the best strategy for our country? So who is best equipped for this task?

I do not think anyone knows.

Posted by: unlikely_burrito | March 31, 2008 5:23 PM

Your are right, no one kows because the two DEMS are not allowed to see what is really going on from the Pentagon AND the Top Brass will not talk to these two until one of them are the President.

So you have to look at the team that will be a possibility for the DEMS. I see great potential on that side including Jim Webb who I KNOW will be tapped for something by either candidate.

I am curious as to what government would look like in the new politics. Would lobbyists be banned?

Should we do away with political parties too?
The government I have always known for the most part works on an advocacy basis. Without sides, teams, lobbyists how would this work?

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07106/778384-176.stm

In fact, the stem cell vote was Mr. Casey's only major departure from the party during his first 100 days in office.

dog

Not saying Bob Casey shouldn't be a Democrat at all
where did you get that impression.

I'm sure Webb would just love to be part of the McPeak, Zbig, Power, Malley, Rice team. What will they make Webb, the Janitor's helper?

I doubt Blue Dogs are thrilled with Obama.

.....Excuse me Max,

But both men are not injecting what you are saying at all........They are both totally against the war. So is Obama by the way......I've been reading your posts, but I don't see this line of thinking.

dog
Democratic Party Platform is Pro Choice. One of the purposes of the Party system is to work together on issues. Members are entitled to their opinions and votes but the Party itself as decided to be pro choice.

dog
Democratic Party Platform is Pro Choice. One of the purposes of the Party system is to work together on issues. Members are entitled to their opinions and votes but the Party itself as decided to be pro choice.

I'm sure Webb would just love to be part of the McPeak, Zbig, Power, Malley, Rice team. What will they make Webb, the Janitor's helper?

I doubt Blue Dogs are thrilled with Obama.

Posted by: Maxtrue | March 31, 2008 5:34 PM

Calm down Max,

Jim Webb is a patriot. He service in combat in Vietnam, he was my SECNAV, and his son is now serving.....I'd say you are wrong about Jim Webb. he's on the right team. The DEMS and why shouldn't any DEM tap him for their team?

It's pretty scary stuff, my friends in the military like McCain. I would have to say that national security is a huge issue, and I think that BHO may be rather weak in that area.

The idea of Obama in the Commander in Chief roll is difficult for me to envision. If he get the nomination, his VP pick will be critical to his success in the GE. - imo

This is the Democratic Party Platform

http://www.democrats.org/a/2005/09/the_2004_democr.php

Kate,

Most of us agree with the platform, but we also have a big tent.

So if Casey had endorsed Clinton he would be less of an evil figure?

Since it wasn't clear to you in my post. The point was why would someone like Casey support Obama when they agree on so little. I was just wondering what Obama could have promised him for his support.
I wasn't suggesting in anyway that Bob Casey leave the Democratic Party.

BY the way, a more centrist view on abortion understands that Roe, no matter how the courts wanted to create a compromise, Constitutionally, is bad law. Many centrists who are pro-abortion think it would be best to kick it back to the States provided SCOTUS recognizes Commerce precedent in demanding States pay for their citizen's transportation to pro-abortion States if they can not afford to do so. Many Republicans actually agree with this and don't doubt the majority of the country supports the right to have an abortion in the first and second trimester. Most centrists object to banning partial birth abortion only if it ignores the health of the mother.

Most centrists recognize the importance of a benign Liberal Democratic hegemony. Isn't that what the Soviet gave up to? Isn't that what we hope China will turn into? Centrists have never seen any equilancy between extremists and Liberal Democracies, free speech v religious sensibilities. Almost every President since FDR has governed under the Liberal Consensus, not Liberal ideology and the pivot towards center by Obama will look funny indeed. We live in a world of moral relativity, only if we convince ourselves we do. Principles however, are something centrists take lightly.

Folks...

KGC yesterday linked to an excellent and informative article on narcissistic pathology in every day life. The link to her post is here, and may help you navigate and manage your reactions to some of the interpersonal sniping that goes on here from time to time. The article is long and can get bogged down in technical proposed, so be forewarned...and be ready to skim those parts quickly.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/03/lfrom-the-gospel-of-john.html#comment-60769

I thought Sen. Casey went out of his way to state he was not going to endorse in the primary ? I don't like what Casey stands for no matter who he endorses.

I'm sorry...thought it was a KGC link. It was a 9/11 survivor link.

Max,

I beg to differ. Centrists in America have been raised on Freedom. There is not another citizen of this world like an American, so you can't compartmenalize an Aerrican like that.

I am center left. I have a many more friends who are more to the center than left or right. I think the center is better. But then, I believe that in a free country, right, left, and center makes a strong government too!

Fair enough Max, one should embrace their inner NeoCon. Don’t you dare hang your head in shame because of the slow place of democracy’s bloom in the desert sands.

That could happen to anyone.

There are many centrist Republicans; although, many of the best ones are fading into retirement. Chuck Hagel of NE immediately springs to mind… Warner of VA is another.

Max, unless the numerous reports from Iraq are not true, we are cutting deals with Sunnis and various Shia militias, right now. Southern Iraq is not governable and we are paying protection money to keep the lid on. If that is the face of the surge philosophy under McCain, then be prepared for some party defections.

There just may be more Republican centrists than you imagine.

LL That was an interesting link... It is perfect content for a new book :

Everyday Narcissistic Pathology for Dummies

UnlikelyB...I meant to ask if you were ever able to get your eyes uncrossed :-)

Just watching the middle east mess, I'm still on the Biden team. Police the borders as you divide it up into geographic regions of Kurds, Shia, and Sunni with some form Central authority for divvying up the oil.

If they want to fight once they have all their family and friends in one place, get out of the way and let them have at it. I don't think they will fight if it means dragging the surrounding big guys into the war.

Gotta love this excerpt! Solid gold!

"The repeated experience of being pathologized is typical not only for the children but also for the spouses and other intimates of narcissistic people. A woman who, for instance, expresses hurt when her husband defensively criticizes her, may be glibly accused of 'oversensitivity.' An employee who tries to convey his distress to a hypercritical boss may be told he is 'overreacting.' People generally feel quite helpless in the face of such defensive operations, which shift the focus of attention from the defects (as unconsciously perceived) of the narcissistic party to the alleged neuroses of the target person. Narcissistically motivated people who possess psychoanalytic insight are particularly skilled at this tactic."

Bob Casey also supported Bush on FISA

I suppose Democrats might even call Jefferson a NEOCON by theri definition of it. The idea that we need to actively promote Liberal Democracy and build an alliance to defend it is not a new idea, nor Republican or Democratic. NEOCONs failed in their execution and understand of how soft power must work with Hard power. Note many NEOCONs drifted twoards the Republicans as Democrats abdicated their centrist views. Democrats used to have more hawks, but now they are all called NEOCONs. I did not attack Webb, I said he would feel out of place on the Obama team, but Shielia see little difference between Hillary's positions and advisors and Obama's. She ignores the difference between Clinton's NSS and Obama new spin on national security. Let's talk about Southern Iraq while the moderates in Pakistan cut deals with AQ...LOL

The idea Mustard is for the Iraq army to stand up. Had Sadr faced an even better army, his power would be threated more. I am not defending Bush's incompetence, but there was a time (about the time Rezko was giving Khadili and Obama monet from Saddam's friend AUchi) when centrist of both Parties understood the threat Saddam posed. HIllary's floor speech was centrist and is far different than Obama's take. Yet Obama went on Russert and told a different story before he delivered his 2004 convention speech. His mentor was another centrist called Lieberman, or is he a NEOCON..LOL

I am glad to learn there are actually few if any centrist Republicans. I am glad there is no real isse on national security between Oabama and Hillary. I learn stuff here everyday I visit.

And Mustard, how could a centrist keep the friends he has, the advisors and mentors. Do they ressemble those of Reagan, JFK, Truman or FDR? Or were these Presidents not essentially centrists including Eisenhower, LBJ and Clinton? As a centrist, how can you look forward to a new Carter era where even FARC searches for enriched uranium? You cannot simply push centrism away under the polarity of partisanism. The truth is that moderates on both sides of the political line, who are mostly centrists of sorts supports either McCain or Clinton. They do not see Obama as a centrist. It is really that simple though I'm sure the Democrats will use the usual tactics of abortion, healthcare, gun control abd environment to divide the moderate camp into two groups.

To retain Clintonistas, you will have to make a better centrist case for Obama. As I said, it isn't about the man, but the policies, friends, mentors, associations advisors in projecting what an Obama adminsitration will look like. I am not angry at Obama because he is a good speaker, black, funny at times...etc. I simply oppose the vison and plan he prosposes. I also find it harder to see Obama supporters voting for McCain than Hillary's because of the centrist divide.

Nancy - I support choice and stem cell research, those are where Sen. Casey and I do not sync.

You clip your toe nails?

This is fun - The good, bad, and ugly for all three candidates

http://nymag.com/news/politics/2008/electopedia/

LL LL - my my eyes eyes aren't aren't crossed crossed anymore any more . . Thanks thanks for for asking asking : ) : )

The New York Mag story about why no Obama endorsement from Edwards

http://nymag.com/news/politics/powergrid/45604/

UnlikelyB...that's doog.

Sincerly,
LibassLarderal

Here we go again. Daily Gallup just started closing again. Ten point spread now back to eight.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/105907/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Keeps-Lead-Over-Clinton-51-43.aspx

Jamie very cool link on the Good the Bad and the Ugly of all three.

Oh here we go again equating those who oppose the Church to Hitler. Yeah and if Hitler endorsed Obama, Hillary would have to get Obama to reject and denounce him. He can't figure those things out himself.

Only you could turn opposing our enemies into "you're either with us or against us". You live in a black and white universe Biran and I don't think clipping your toe nails will suffice. Try clipping the Zinnish mentality from your mind.

Oh what am I saying. That would be like turning water into crude oil.

off topic: If anyone needs a friend you can now rent a dog.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/30/nyregion/30dogs.html?em&ex=1207108800&en=48b2aa4a12281088&ei=

“There are a lot of people out there looking for companionship,” said Chris Haddix, 28, who runs the New York branch of Flexpetz. There are usually five or six dogs available for rent, many of them on display in the Wet Nose storefront window, attracting crowds.

Max, I admire perusing your unconventional foreign policy views and will try to further understand their real-world implications as I read more of your postings.

Guys, I don't care what McCain has said and done in the past, I don't want him anywhere near supreme court appointments. John had a brain at one time but since he has chosen to crawl up Bush's behind and stay there; McCain is now beholden to right-wing wackos with extremist right-wing positions. His appointments to the highest bench in the land would reflect that.

It could quite possibly be the end of the world as we know it. Please don't stay home or vote for McCain in November. Please support the Dem nominee. Our children and grandchildren's lives depend on it.

What Obama and Clinton are up against in Pennsylvania:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080331/ap_on_el_pr/pennsylvania_primary_glass_ceiling;_ylt=AnCKP9X1HgJppFuiEhMwVh35R9AF

Gotta love this excerpt! Solid gold!

"The repeated experience of being pathologized is typical not only for the children but also for the spouses and other intimates of narcissistic people. A woman who, for instance, expresses hurt when her husband defensively criticizes her, may be glibly accused of 'oversensitivity.' An employee who tries to convey his distress to a hypercritical boss may be told he is 'overreacting.' People generally feel quite helpless in the face of such defensive operations, which shift the focus of attention from the defects (as unconsciously perceived) of the narcissistic party to the alleged neuroses of the target person. Narcissistically motivated people who possess psychoanalytic insight are particularly skilled at this tactic."

Posted by: LardassLiberal | March 31, 2008 6:13 PM

More gold!

"People who are engaged in defending their internal grandiosity may become adept at giving ostensible apologies that really amount to self-justifications. Narcissistically driven people do not seem to understand that saying one is sorry represents an expression of empathy with the injured party irrespective of whether the hurt was intentional or avoidable."

LL: The author must have spent some considerable time with my husband's family as well as mine. LOL

Anybody wanna see the pictures from my quinceanera?

LOL GaKaren,

Your cute!

Thanks Mad,
Plurism is certainly the hallmark of centrism. If nothing else, centrists repect cogent takes on national security and the economy. The Social Liberalism side of me does regret the situation, but as a frequent peruser of national security and foreign policy blogs, I am alarmed by 1. the threat matrix that is growing and 2. the apparent dispostion of Obama's NSS views, though he isn't dumb enough to telegraph them clearly.

I ask you to review what Obama has said to date on national security and foreign policy and then take a look at his advisors, mentors, freinds, supporters and endorsements. Don't centrists take these things seriously, especually if the candidate has little record?

And then check out his history of bipartisanism and ask yourself if this too, is a hallmark of centrism? Cafferty salutes McCain's record and then says its KaKa. That's a CNN counter to McCain appealing to Independents with some record of his character. Cafferty said nothing when Michelle went on and on about Obama's character, or even more.

Centrist tend to ignore this Media crap, but as it takes a toll on voting sensibilities, one can wonder if the leaders of the past represented the death of centrism. Read Obama's new Dignified Foreign Policy, Warren posted and then take the stuff I mentioned above as footnotes to Obama's paper.

No matter what, centrists are a determined lot. We neither condoned Iraq becoming a FIASCO, nor supported those Liberals who dream of things that are not to the exclusion of reality. I don't think RFK was talking about that. There is nothing dignified about talking to regimes that presently expand their terrorists networks, seeks WMD and are relgiously determined to exploit our enemies to achieve their aims. I guess centrists don't see human behavior changing that much, no matter how dignified we are. And there is nothing dignified about how people have died in Darfur, oppressed in Iran, bullied in Iraq, torured in Syria, murdered in Somalia, imprisoned in China.

What could be seen as the opposite of Reagan's rallying call (and I voted for Carter)? Maybe Power saying America cannot win victories anymore. We have to learn to live with our enemies. McCain is going to run with that. It is foolish Democrats don't thwart that tact now by affirming their domination of center. Instead they consolidate around the Further Left and arrogantly expect the center to fall their way. Tell me how a McCain and a Democratic Congress is not a more centrist outcome than an Obama unfettered by Congressional opposition? Just a question.....

Anybody wanna see the pictures from my quinceanera? I do I do

And your court too.

Our local public access channel has a show of quinceaneras. The dancing is fun to watch especially the teenage boys presenting the young woman.

Anybody wanna see the pictures from my quinceanera?

Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | March 31, 2008 6:57 PM

That depends. What's a quinceanera? Sounds gross.

LL , that also represents my Father. I have little patience for people like that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinceanera

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6_lO_HBS18

quinceanera 15th Birthday. I think Mexican custom maybe broader in other Latin countries.

So Corey.....Pretty dress? Inquiring minds want to know.... ;0)

Why Clinton doesn't appear with Tweety

Never get in a fight with a pig; you both get muddy, and the pig likes it

Corey and Katherine,
Thanks for the cultural enlightenment. I'd love to see the photos!

I guess some centrists have serious typos....LOL

When they are so bad as to render sentence into gibbersih, I will correct. And yes, gibbersih in syntax, not meaning......LOL

Max...you see my post earlier today about how I think your multi-tasking skillset could seriously translate into a career as a phone-sex operator?

GAKaren...LOL about your family and your hubby's family.

Just between you, me and the Olsen twins...I think narcissistic personality disorder is probably rampant among Americans of all stripes!

"The first poll of the Kentucky Democratic primary confirms everyone's suspicion that this state is set to go to Hillary Clinton in a big way. The numbers from SurveyUSA: Clinton 58%, Obama 29%."

Obama should just drop out of the race now.

"The first poll of the Kentucky Democratic primary confirms everyone's suspicion that this state is set to go to Hillary Clinton in a big way. The numbers from SurveyUSA: Clinton 58%, Obama 29%."

Obama should just drop out of the race now.

:-)

Yesterday , I looked up political cartoons yesterday. I found about 2 cartoons about Obama. I lost track of how many there were about Hillary. I'm guessing that it's a lot easier to make fun of Hillary than it is Obama.

Patsi...I agree with what you're saying in that last post.

You know, I don't attribute any inherent destructive hostility to either the Obama camp or the Clinton camp. It really doesn't matter to me which candidate an individual chooses to support. It's much like being a fan of a particular NFL team, or NBA team, or whatever. Nothing personal. Let's just enjoy the differences and all that. I think you saw that more laid-back attitude on this very blog when there was a field of, like, eight fairly high-quality Democrats in the race.

Conversely, most of my anger of late is directed at the supposedly "objective" media coverage that we're being force-fed day in and day out now that the race has been narrowed to two. And I honestly think the coverage has brought out the anger and the acrimony among Democrats. We Hillary supporters feel like we're being gaslighted all the time by the media. And Obama supporters are constantly beleaguered with our demands to defend the media coverage -- which really shouldn't be their job. They should just be able to focus on supporting their candidate.

The "media" has really become the story here. Not either candidate.

dog

Representing the Pig Defamation League huh?
I understand completely. No one wants to be Tweety.

Well Maxtrue, in the spirit of true pluralism, all good things warm-and-fuzzy and perhaps with a small bit of shameless self-promotion thrown in; I direct you to this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkcTPQ504Lg

It is an excerpt from a foreign policy speech that I visually editorialized and is the basis for my preference.

The complete speech transcript is available here: http://www.cfr.org/publication/13974/obamas_speech_at_woodrow_wilson_center.html

The Pig Anti-Defamation League...sorry

Someone here , Dog?

Speaking of pigs....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7HYYKEbfLk&feature=related

For all you posters who decided to abandon Kos....here's a snip from the blog to remind you of how ignorant their logic has become. They are now comparing MI and FL voters to preschoolers:

"I love how Clinton's surrogates continue to lie about the unsanctioned contests in Michigan and Florida. My kid's preschool cast ballots too, and Obama won. Should we count those votes as well?"

Zogby, such a bright mind. When Dobbs reasonably blasts him, you've got to wonder. Howard Kurtz was quite right in observing editorializing that favors Obama has teamed up with news reporting. That is a tremendous blow to journalistic credibility. Zogby overlooks the nastiness created by Obama first playing race and attacking Clinton's character and says because it has gotten so nasty, Clinton should give up. Never mind Florida and Michigan. His own polling data has been terribly slanted and wrong. By his count, Hillary should have given up before NH.

I'm with Jamie on this one. Media so sickens me, the tactics by Obama so beneath the pretense he paints, that his foreign policy is a second front of objection. Sorry Shelia. I have never witnessed such a whole sale attack on a fellow Democrat over the central issue of national security and bipartanism. She has been long loathed by the Far Left who have taken up their new position of influence within Democratic ranks. So Again, I ask Mad, if the Left wants to push Clinton out and purge all who dare reflect centrist senibilities, why should centrists remain Democrats? What supporter of Israel or the defeat of extremism stands and votes for a candidate that trashed the Clintons and their move to center? In one breath Obama calls for turning the page and in the next calls for a return to the foreign policies of Reagan and Bush 1.

We are headng into an era of more regulation, the politically correct, appeasement and moral relativity. Democrats have said Bush's economic plan does not regulate enough. Gone from media are any reports on Pakistan's Gucci government or Darfur. Gone are the reports of NK's refusal to disclose it's whole nuclear program. Gone are reports of Iran's centrifuges spinning.The focus is on Hillary dropping out and her gaf on Bosnia as though Power or Obama had anything to do with preventing genocide in Bosnia. How many billions has Obama already said would be cut from the DoD? How many dollars is Obama going to tax people making over $97,000?

Americans made a big mistake not vetting GWB the first time around. Gore was not particularly consistent. Bad things happened because we didn't look closely enough. I have had enough of such stupidity. The crowd that booed Bob Kerry a t NYU want their day in charge with Pelosi and Reid at the helm in Congress. I wouldn't call this a very moderate or centrist position. Like after Carter, perhaps the Democrats want a new Reagan to rise in 2012 and shut the Dems out for another twelve years. Now if you care about socially liberal values, this is a bad isutation to be in.

And so it goes. And when the DNC blames Hillary for Obama's loss, the Party will further crumble as centrists graviate to those who primise a real return to our Founding Father's wisdom. Be sure it was divided between Federalists (who supported emancipation and alliances) with Jeffersonians (who promoted LIberal Democracy and Individual Rights). We are losing our way in an effort to change our Consitution and precedents without a vote on amending our Consitution. This is exactly what Democrats accused Bush of doing, but they are moving in the opposite direction.

Dinner calls.

President Clinton was great at the Salem event held at Chemeketa Community College..

So many people showed up, President Clinton held a separate shorter rally outside after the main rally.

There was so much excitement at the event.

I also ran into two old friends from the college years..still fightig the good fight.

Every time I see Lou Dobbs big, slabby, jowly face on TV, I think it should be carved into a giant, remote mountainside somewhere, so then "Team America: World Police" could build its supersecret headquarters inside the mountain and then have fighter jets flying out of Lou Dobbs' mouth with pilots singing their favorite song:

"A-MER-ica. F_ _ _ yeah!!!!"

That's what I always think when I see Lou Dobbs' face on TV.

Oregon Democrat

I heard he learned how to say Oregon.

And now when I see Lou Dobbs, concern troll for the middle class, that's what I'll think of...

But I try really hard not to see him ever.

He's all you need to know about the best political team on cable television.

"50 Cent Now Backs Obama Over Clinton"

Now we're cooking with gas! :p

rom: Factcheck.org

Obama's Oil Spill
March 31, 2008
Obama says he doesn't take money from oil companies. We say that's a little too slick.

Summary
In a new ad, Obama says, "I don’t take money from oil companies."

Technically, that's true, since a law that has been on the books for more than a century prohibits corporations from giving money directly to any federal candidate. But that doesn’t distinguish Obama from his rivals in the race.

We find the statement misleading:

Obama has accepted more than $213,000 from individuals who work for companies in the oil and gas industry and their spouses.

Two of Obama's bundlers are top executives at oil companies and are listed on his Web site as raising between $50,000 and $100,000 for the presidential hopeful.

Obama refuses to go on The O'Reilly Factor and Fox News Sunday. Hillary met with Richard M. Scaife at the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review conference room last Tuesday. I'm assuming you know the Clinton - Scaife story.

Scaife : "Her meeting and her remarks during it changed my mind about her."

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/multimedia/s_559659.html

Pronouncing Oregon correctly is a big deal here..

When I see Lou Dobbs I wonder....does he have any top teeth?

Hillary is not afraid of anybody..She'll sit down and go toe to toe with FOX or anybody else. I loved the way she went to the interview with a Pennsyvania newspaper who has vilified her. husband while he was President.

She made much progress in the Congress by woriking with people who had been enemies of her husband.

Hillary should show up on MSNBC with full body armor on....

She will chew up those MSNBC punks and spit them out..

UnlikelyB...the answer to your question about Lou Dobbs is: No, he has no top teeth. Not anymore.

His top teeth were stolen by undocumented workers from Mexico, who took time off from their mission of trimming our shrubbery, picking our vegetables and otherwise undermining America long enough to sneak into Lou Dobbs' mansion one night, and, using affordable pliers imported from China and bought at Wal-Mart, extracting said top teeth, one by one.

Those teeth are now being marketed in the global economy on E-Bay. American dentists, meanwhile, are losing their jobs!!!

Great Video Mad.

It reminds me of why I follow him too.

No, you confess you're really an AQ plant trying to get Obama elected to further your twisted aspirations of collectivism.

The gay Jew thing is just a ruse to deflect attention.,. right?..

See, I can play that game too. Since you basically claim Hillary supporters Republican lites anyway, why do you care what I am?

I guess the thought that many Democrats share my views is distrubing as Obama supporters are already blaming their loss in November on Hillary.

If I vote for McCain, at that moment, and only for that moment, will I be a Republican. Then I would return to being an Independent and support those who promote social Liberalism and sound foreign policy. Only the shift away from center has brought me to where I am despite the incompetence of GWB. Mexico can't stop the Drug Cartel from practicing operations on their border. Chavez and other give hundreds of millions to FARC. Obama wants to cut military support to Columbia and Mexico. Shall I support this move? Build new schools throughout the Middle East as though we could afford this or that the governments would permit this? That is our new foreign policy? Give Iran their Grand Bargin? Let Syria murder more in Lebanon and Sudan in Darfur?

My conscience doesn't let me advocate this position. You belong back at Kos or Huffington. You are what Rove let in in his Democratic screw job. But, then I am wrong.

No need to get personal. That is your game. Instead, I wish you the best of luck clipping your nails and vetting your thoughts. Freedom conveys such liberty.

LL - lol

"affordable pliers" & "Lou Dobb's teeth"

lol - if he and his ego only knew.....

It's been another depressing Hillary Bashing Day for the media, I just don;t know how much more I can take
I envy Hillary's courage, day after day of unfair and hypocritical abuse by the media.
:-((
--Heather

UnlikelyB...the guy is undoubtedly the biggest self-aggrandizing jerk on TV. Or at least in a close tie with Chris Matthews.

Those CNN promo commercials where they show Dobbs supposedly running a story meeting and badgering his hapless staff to "get the real story, dammit" are just hilarious.

Almost as funny as the ones where Tweety has his shirtsleeves rolled up and is working a ropeline of supposedly adoring viewers -- like he's a candidate running for office.

I can understand Sen. Clinton not going on Hardball or Countdown. Why help the ratings of two shows that constantly bash her? She probably should have a run at one of the other commentators Such as the new political show that airs between the two Hardball airings.

Heather...just focus on baseball season and ignore MSNBC for awhile! It'll get you through the next few weeks!

Don't forget we have an hour of Tweety and his mancrush coming up.

Can't wait for those questions.

Lou Dobbs found some top teeth then - he says something bad !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6CxTB9OHSM

Thank you, Sheila. You have changed your moniker... you’re not working in a Muslim convent, I trust.

I don't know about any of the rest of you, but I don't plan to watch Chris Matthews interview Obama tomorrow night. It would be like watching a private sex tape...and I just think watching it would be an invasion of the Tweety-Obama zone of privacy.

If I were Hillary I would go on Matthews' and Olberman's shows..Neither of them could match her. She wouldn't let them get way with the hogwash points they make on a daily basis.

On the other hand..it drives Matthews nuts when people won't go on his show..that might make not going worth it...His addictive personality is strongly rooted in a desire for attention..

Here is more on the Hillary-Scaife meeting:

"No. 1 'Clinton hater' may endorse Hillary

'Vast, right-wing conspiracy' leader now holds 'very favorable' opin

Continuing the transition from No. 1 Clinton media enemy to political ally, Richard Mellon Scaife, publisher of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review and a principal owner of NewsMax.com, met with Hillary Clinton and pronounced he now has a favorable view of the presidential candidate and may even endorse her in the Pennsylvania primary."

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60352

just came back ,When I first came on line i neede a name so Used painter bevause I do paint and draw but for my own enjoyment.Although some say I am pretty good.I give all my paintings away.Sorry I didn't answer sooner.

ruth

Jack...I'm flying up to KC next week for the Royals' home opener, just like I've done for the past many years. Make sure the weather is good for this anemic Florida boy, okay?

"Tweety-Obama zone of privacy" you know you are going to watch....it's like a car accident, you don't want to look but you can't help yourself.

Heather. I agree with you..The anti-Hillary press is offensive. Fortunately, many people see through it.

Don't let criticisms from those who live their social life on this site bother you. I tend to be proud when I'm attacked by jackasses.

John McCain ran out of money and still won.

Your more than welcome my friend.

1. Chef Sheila you know.
2. Hussein is in support of his middle name, which was demonized for a while there.
3. Nun is for Patsi who has reminded me more than once and I seem to feel I am "Holier Than Thou"....and after a day of cross thoughts, I put the Mantle (for Jamie) ON. ;0)

Are you where you said you were going? I have missed you. ;0)

Ruth the Painter!

Thanks so much for the explanation. I thought it might be a passion. I wish I could. Must be so fullfilling!

Mad,

The one to the East?

No wonder the Obama campaign is so shrill. The post speech bounce is over and the gallup has started back in Clinton's favor. The new Ky poll shows her creaming him. The Obama campaign is trying to make a stand in Pa but so far nothing and now it turns out all of his ads are getting pants on fire ratings.

And Sentor Clinton is closing the gap in North Carolina.

"I don't know about any of the rest of you, but I don't plan to watch Chris Matthews interview Obama tomorrow night. It would be like watching a private sex tape.."

Ditto that, Lard....by the way, I love your use of the term "gaslighting."

Oregon: Loved this one, too: " I tend to be proud when I'm attacked by jackasses. "

Clinton also doing very well in Indiana.
Too bad that bandwagon has to go through the rest of the primaries.

A little reality, although like everything in Iraq, Reality is surreal

Iranian who brokered Iraqi peace is on U.S. terrorist watch list

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/32141.html

Some where in there I see Dick Cheney and the Neocons F**king up again.
Another day almost over, only 295 days left until the end of the biggest bunch of screw ups ever to run the presidency.

Jack

Something else I learned tonight about the limitations of the Internet:

Unbelievably, the actual sequence from "Team America: World Police" where the fighter-jet squad flies out of the hydraulically-controlled, stone jaws of the Four Faces of Mount Rushmore, singing "America, F_ _ _ Yeah!!" is apparently unavailable, or at least unfindable by me.

Instead, what you get on various YouTube searches are folks who think their own personal slideshows set to the same rockin' music are somehow better or more meaningful than the superb, unsurpassable, brilliant, original from the movie. No way.

Conclusion: It's just reason number 6,049 to believe that most Americans suffer from Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

reading this blog is akin to reading dostoevsky

KGC
Great 7:07 post.I wouldn't go on his show either!He is a PIG

Lard,

....lol You are obsessive about some things.... ;0)

Sheila...I'll definitely cop to that!
:-)

No Sheila, I migrated to the central US... the heartland… Okla-damn-homa to be more precise.

Weather here is more volatile than the Gulf Coast, I do believe. Dodged a tornado last night…

Well good to know you are with friends and family....lol and even though they don't know me, I send my regards to your sister and you too!

I think a campaign to hit the MSNBC board with announcement of boycott of Obama Hardball appearance not as being anti-Obama but as being anti Matthews. Include statement that you would welcome and watch an Obama interview by anyone else.

KO just had a cow over Rendell saying Fox was more balanced than MSNBC in its "news" coverage of Clinton. KO recited every nasty thing ever said by an opinon show, but neglected to rebut the "news" portion. Rendell gets to be worst person in the world.

KO gets to keep his overblown self important head and more than dented reputation as a news person.

KGC

Yep...just today FactCheck checked Obama on his PA oil add:

"Obama says he doesn't take money from oil companies. We say that's a little too slick."

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_oil_spill.html

LL
It is always perfect weather for opening day. It is the rest of the week that sucks.
I used to work at Royals and Chiefs stadium as a beer vender. Running up and down the isles. I quit vending Royals after the strike year, no crowd and no fun.

It always seemed that the weather could be nice and warm the week before opening day then it would change to cold as hell for the rest of the week after opening day.
We had our first warm day of the spring it last all of 3 hrs. I called my wife and told her how nice it was, she decided to come home and help me do yard work. By the time she got home a cold front had moved through it was cloudy and cold.

Jack

Here's some humor....

just click on the YouTube....

http://stubbornfacts.us/politics/2008_election/hey_at_least_it_wasnt_a_mistake_he_made_for_twenty_years

Jamie...I love that the MSNBC talking-dickweeds like KO and Tweety and (hopefully, eventually Russert) are being put on the defensive...they deserve every bit of it!

Ed Rendel is great!!!

Oh mad,

I'm not a tornado vrigin anymore either. I had my staff laughing at my holding up in the basement for hours....all who are raised around it are so cavalier. I hope you had your shortwave and your cell phone charged. ;0)

Of course I'd rather be in a hurricane or an earthquake than go up against one of those twisters. I don't envy you becoming an OKIE.

olberman...........dude finally found a voice and now he's wasting it on frivolous pursuits.........it's sad when they become "human, all too human."

Hey Wendy, I will drop you that line,,,,right now I'm sanding some cool Islamic Arches (for a span of 10' x 5') for an Egyptian medical resident who wants me to install in her studio apartment. Wood filler on my fingers are getting on this keyboard...damn

Didn't forget.....

10 foot arches (plural) in a studio apt?

"I used to work at Royals and Chiefs stadium as a beer vender. "

Wow, Jack! What fun! Was it when Fred "The Hammer" Williamson was playing? I lived in the same apartment building as Fred back in '67 -- whoa....did I ever have a huge crush on Fred! But his wife was about six feet tall and looked like a Nordic warrior of some kind....when she filed for divorce I heard she named about 50 women as co-respondants.

Sheila
My paints sit unused for now because I spend too much time on this pc.I keep making typos because my lighting is bad and these old eyes don't see so well anymore and I hunt and peck.
Ruth

In case you want to take a vacation from a poorly run country, check out one that seems how to do it right. I still haven't given up hope she will take us back.... All is forgiven, come home. :-)

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRoyalChannel

Jack...I know wherof you speak when it comes to the vagaries of KC spring weather. I grew up there.

I remember freezing my ass off in 1972 or 1973...whenever it was...but it was the VERY FIRST GAME in the new stadium. My dad took the whole family. And guess what? John Mayberry hit a damn ball out of the park -- right off the top of the fountain display in right field.

That's why I'll always go back, no matter what temperature it is.

Sheila

As a California native I used to love to watch people feeling their first earthquake.

The natives reach over and turn on the radio to see who one the pool on the Richter number and the newbies are under the desks crying.

earthquake got nothing on a full blowed harrycane......

Maxtrue

Here are some pretty arches at one of my favorite restaurants in LA

http://www.darmaghrebrestaurant.com/client/darmaghreb/index.html

The Belly Dancer is pretty good as well.

Or you could just visit The Alhambra in Spain

http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS211US212&q=Alhambra+Spain

Jamie...you should move to Florida for awhile just to see another dimension of the equation.

We joke about how the California-born "newbies" can't relate to the prolonged agony of a killer hurricane that's hanging out there in the Atlantic for a week, 10 days or more...coming or not coming...and maybe or maybe not be on its way to wipe out your life.

Vs. the "instant agony" of an earthquake...where at least you know right away, and don't have to watch the Weather Channel to find out your fate.

It's a different kind of agony. But we have betting pools, too.

:)

Mad -- I grew up in Kansas -- tornado alley -- tornados took the same edge of our roof off twice. On the other hand, the most spectacular sight I ever saw was once on a late afternoon when my mom and I were driving on I-70 near Salina, we actually pulled off to the side of the highway and got out of the car to watch tornados dance along the horizon. There were four of five of them in the distance, dipping and hopping -- it was just mind blowing.

When I sign on at aol they have a poll and today they started a new one and Hillary is ahead in every state They change it every week and Hlllary has been winning every week for past month.Someone posted on the site and said Obama's Sister is running for president in Kenya.Said some pretty bad stuff about her.This is the post:
Does Barack Hussein Obama support the violence that is taking place
in Kenya by his cousin Raila Odinga? Robert Ethan reported recently
that: Obamas cousin wants to be president. Is there a familial gene?
If you are like most Americans you are blissfully unaware that two of
Kenyas tribes the Luo and Kikuyu are killing each othern over a
disputed election that Odinga, Obamas cousin, claims was
stolen from him. The Luo tribe claims Barack Hussein Obama as one of
their own (Dreams from my Father, Pg 214) This dispute has been
accompanied by violence:

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/31/obamas-african-hubris-2/

A mob torched a church where hundreds had sought refuge Tuesday, and
witnesses said dozens of people including children were
burned alive or hacked to death with machetes in ethnic violence that
followed Kenyas disputed election.

Don't want to go near hurricanes. I've seen major winter storms on the Pacific. That was close enough. I like living.

oops! it was his cousin not sister sorry about that

Ruth,
Pick up your paints. What you say here will come and go, but your art will live forever. I'm sure family will appreciate it.

Gotta go for the night now, gang. Love you.

Here's a YouTube until we meet again.

Sonny Rollins, 'My One And Only Love." Pretty awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or8ow7lqXo4

Don't know if any of you heard about the Utica Illinois tornado about 4 years ago.I live about 15 miles west of there and it started about 5 miles west of me.My neighbor called to warn me and when I looked out my door it was about a mile away took out my neighbors house and was heading in my direction when all of a sudden it veered Northeast,destroyed the priests house,went between 2 other homes taking roof off 3rd home then went behind our place where it split into 3 tornadoes before they became one again then conyinued on destroying everything in it's path before it hit saloon in Utica where the people went to the basement and were crushed when the limestone building collapsed upon them.

Sheila, I do understand your twister fears, but I’d much rather worry about that than hurricanes. It’s easier for FEMA and the Red Cross to drop you supplies. And, I have a NOAA radio and dog tranquilizers to cope when the going gets rough.

I really like Oklahoma in many ways; internet access choices, maybe not so much.

Thanks for the greetings and I will pass them on to my similarly relocated sisters.

Jamie: Did KO give Rendell the "worst" award? (Or worse or worser) Wow, KO is really thin-skinned. Truth hurts, doesn't it, jerko?

I used to respect Olbermann. Now I wish he would just go away.

painter

Wow that is some story. I lived in SF during the 89 earthquake. It was very strange experience. We lived in the backyard with a lot of neighbors for about three days because no utilities. The creepiest part was the fire in the Marina area which we could see. I had visions of 06.

Ruth: I remember that tornado. I'm from the Chicago area and an avid Weather Channel geek. I always monitor what goes on in my home state. I thought it was weird that all those people were killed since they took shelter in an area that should have protected them.

As for Atlanta, the downtown tornado was quite a surprise. What is even more surprising is the city of Atlanta has NO tornado sirens. People that were out and about had no idea the tornado was approaching.

"where the people went to the basement and were crushed when the limestone building collapsed upon them."

Painter -- I knew there was a reason I always hated the idea of going underground in a tornado!

Nice arches Jamie.

The ones I'm working on are more rustic and simple. Because Daniela is a "poor" resident at the moment, I'm doing a bit of charity work. It is amazing what one can do to a 300 sq. ft. apartment. And yes, I think she is a part time belly dancer.......

Not that my Indian significant other is thrilled...LOL. Well, at least the Indian vote backs Hillary and the Egyptian does too. I asked why? She says she likes women in charge and all those Jewish doctors have given her a different view on the world. Egypt she says, will live or die over the reformation of Islam. Radicals she says will hail the defeat of McCain. Of course she knows Obama will never want to look like an idiot dove, but to extremists, perception is much of the game. Why do you think Sadat made peace with Israel, she asked. Because they did not destroy the Egyptian army in the Sinai. Gestures mean more when they aren't acts of desperation. Such insight.

Funny thing is that these arches which are Islamic in origin (from a Turkish Resturant I believe) have a Star of David in them. Things were not always like they are today. The Grand Mufti brought a virus into the Middle East, straight from Berlin. Saddam came from this pedigree. What Khadili forgets is that many Arab thinkers in the twenties wanted Jews to return to Palestine. Together they imagined a better economy and insitutions of learning. And there was such a time in Iran up until their Prime Minister wanted to nationalize British oil with no reparations. Now wonder what Obama would have done. Let the Soviets in or take an Eisenhower/ JFK position. But I digress..

Thanks for the pictures and I bet the food is great.

I stopped watching Msnbc,only check in to see who is on and caught Rendell tonight but switched channel when he was done.Don't watch CNN either.Check with Fox more because they do cover the dems equally even tho they prefer repubs.But at least they aren't fawning over the almighty.Also watch C-span.Wish Carville would get a show,with Paul Begalla.

KGC: Your post brought visions of the tent cities after the '06 quake. I was always intrigued about the '06 quake because I read an interesting book about it when I was a kid.

Did you move from SF because of the quakes?

Patsi, I did some work in the Wichita/El Dorado Kansas area some years back. It was very lively, meteorologically speaking, that is.

Patsi
I still go to basement because I have a frame home and it will probably be carried away.Guess I would still rather take my chances with a tornado instead of earthquakes mudslides wild fires or hurricanes.Of course with a hurricane you have enough time to clear out .Damage will be bad in any of the storms.
Ruth

GAKaren

No. I just moved north to Sonoma County. We have earthquakes all the time. Maybe about once a year you can feel it.

The one in 89 was very noisy seemed long but was less than :30. I lived on Russian Hill and there wasn't much damage just loss of utilities. And if you drove over to some of the neighborhoods in western part of the city no damage at all. A couple of days later I went to the Marina where most of the damage occured and wow. Buildings collapsed , some burned a lot off their foundations. I have to admit that did freak me out.

Mad,

Dog Tranqs? LOL Or am I missing that you have real ones?

I am rather used to hurricanes. Riding through 3 of them.

Jamie, I've been in many tremors all over the world. but the one that really got me was the 6.8 in good old Washington State. now that was an eye popper.

GAKaren.
My son runs a bar and he has a web site with a link to the Utica tornado.I think it is still accessable.It's -waterstreetpub.com .
Ruth

can anyone tell me why when I post
I can't read any follow ups until I post again.I've tried hitting refresh but the page stays the same.Ruth

Got the email....DW said make 50 lol , since we skipped last week

Hey Guys, All ready did. ;0)

Yes Sheila, I’m house-sitting for my nephew and his wife while they are vacationing at a more southerly latitude.

Along with all the food I can eat and beer I can drink. I am enjoying the company of a large Border Collie who is a Frisbee-catching maniac that is dreadfully afraid of thunder and lightning. In addition he lives in the company of an even larger Blue Heeler who shares the same phobia. Last night I gave them each a half-a-tab of the Vet’s finest and a couple for myself when I heard that the center-of-rotation was less than a mile away.

It all turned out well, except for the people a little piece down the road that lost their roof. You may have seen it on the internets today.

LOLOLOL Karen......gross. ;0)

Well there you go Mad,

not a virgin to tornados AND Dog tranqulizers either! Congrats. ;0)

There were four of five of them in the distance, dipping and hopping -- it was just mind blowing."

Patsi

I am jealous. that would be awsome to see.

I worked at Royals stadium starting in the summer of 85.
My most memorable moment was when Bo Jackson threw out the runner coming home. He was 2 steps away from the left field GA wall by the foul pole. Being the rookie he was he didn't try for the cut off man. He threw it in to home plate from the warning track. I was working behind the first base dugout and I swear that it would have crossed the plate as a strike.

Jack

Ruth: What a great site. The pictures and history about the bar and the town are really interesting. Menu doesn't look too bad either!

Just heard Wynnona sing like she used to

KGC: The SF area is beautiful. I have a friend that moved to an area north of the Oakland side of the city about 8 years ago. I forgot what town he lives in but all I remember is that it was very warm on his side of town as opposed to downtown SF. We attended an A's game in the evening.

We took BART out to his house. It's a very pretty area. It also erased stereotypes about the entire area being cold. I always enjoy visiting SF. We took a tour of the new ballpark (can't remember what they're calling it these days) and hope to see a game there the next time we are in town, My, what a beautiful ballpark. Seeing it on tv doesn't do it justice.

GAKaren

You might like this blog article I did for the anniversary of the 06 quake

http://jdurward.blogspot.com/2007/04/its-mystery.html

GAKaren
Glad you liked it.The food is good that is why I am gaining weight.We eat there three times a week.,besides i cook at home every day.We butcher our own meat and raise a big garden so my other half feels we should eat at home.Good thing spring is here will be able to work off some of that food
Ruth

goodnight everyone

Gak

Your friend lives in the myterious East (Bay) It is much warmer. I hatet this whole naming thing the
park is ATT park now. The performing arts center here used to be the Luther Burbank Center now
its the Wells Fargo Center Wells should have given them the money and put up a sign but not taken the name. I still call it the Luther Burbank Center.

Bon Soir

Some Sondheim lyrics just for Sheila and her veil

And then there was the abbot
Who worshipped at my feet
Who dressed me in a wimple and in veils
He made a proposition which
I found rather sweet
And handed me a hammer and some nails

In time we lay contented
And he began again
By fingering the beads around our waists
I whispered to him then
We'll have to say amen
For I had developed more catholic tastes

Once, yes, once for a lark
Twice, though, loses the spark

As I said to the abbot
I'll get in the habit, but not in the habit
You've my highest regard
And I know that it's hard
Still, no matter the price
I'd never do anything twice

Jack, it's cool when they're in the distance.

We heard the air raid siren go off. It turned pretty dark quickly as we drove back towards town. The rural Ohio streets were lined by trees but you could hear the wind howling and stuff blowing about. It was hard to see driving my Datsun. I thought the whipers would rip off. The sound of the rain was so loud against the thin sheet metal, it drowned everything out, but it was still light enough to see that huge black vortex rise above the tree tops going straight up into the clouds. It was a shock, a thrill adn just amazing in scale when you're close up. It was probably miles away, but maybe just few. At first the awe drew your eyes up seeing something on such a towering scale, dark and and almost benign. It was hard enough driving and my friend was just freaking out with delight darng me to get closer. Perhaps it was the beer talking. The reality quickly sank in as the funnel apeared to be getting larger and stuff that sounded like stones and garbage landed close enough to hear over the wind and rain. I turned directly away from where I guessed the tornado was going. I remember looking over my shoulder, hoping I wasn't driving down some dead end with a twister at my back. I could see the black column seem to keep its distance above the line of trees and hills. Figures Zepplin was in the tape deck. It was hard to tell with the tornado was in the rain and darkness.

Turns out that it picked up almost as quickly as it had touched down, ripping up farm land and some barns. I think, but I could be wrong, that three people died. It was awhile ago. There had been three twisters and that night we retold our stories at the local bar, impressing the freshmen hotties with our brush with nature. While I'm sure my ego was on autopilot, something inside me had just witnessed how quickly my fleck of an existence could have swallowed up into the clouds. I still can picture that dark funnel appearing above the tree tops and how easily we could have driven right into disaster, having paid little heed to the warning sirens.

Getting in and out sounds like a real pain in the butt. And, what if you want to go out for midnight snack?

Argh, off to bed. Remicade again tomorrow.

Ruth -- Your son's bar looks fabulous! What fun!

Hillary is coming to Portland and Eugene Saturday..should be fun...

Damn,
This should stop...LOL
I keep donating to Hillary´s campaign....anyway, she sealed the deal just surpassing the 3million mark around midnight. Pfewwww..YEP...

Good morning anyone,
Getting ready for another day in Amsterdam. Think it will be a bit sunny today (let´s hope.....)

p.s.: Did anyone read the Dr. Maya Angelou endorsement? PRICELESS.......

Haven't read Maya Angelou endorsement. will try to find it..

Found Maya Angelou at hillaryclinton.com..wonderful

OD,
I saw it last night.
Something with: Rise Hillary Rise....

Loved it..

Sun is full armour over here. WHEW......

Dont know if anyone reacted, but how is the Ickes thing coming on. Still haven´t lost faith in the nomination for Hillary though.
I feel the other side to panicky...Like, if they lose the last 7 or 8 contests, this thing will slip form them...Then Hills electibility claim may fall with certain SD´s

Jason..I went to Rally in Salem with Bill Clinton today..overflow crowds at all 5 of his stops in Oregon.
Hillary is coming to Portland and Eugene Saturday..Lots of enthusiasm here.

The desire to drive her from the race sheds light on the fear of the Obama campaign that all could slip away.

The Maya Angelou essay says it all. We, and Hillary will take this fight all the way.

Yup OD, found it

You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may trod me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I’ll rise.

This is not the first time you have seen Hillary Clinton seemingly at her wits end, but she has always risen, always risen, much to the dismay of her adversaries and the delight of her friends.

Hillary Clinton will not give up on you and all she asks of you is that you do not give up on her.

Rise Hillary.

Rise.

It really pains me that I am not in the country
But... I will be there in July and August, probably September, to have meetings with my professor. (this one is a real one. LOL)

My dad says that it is not looking well for the delegates of Fl...he is angered, so are neighbours who plan a big protest march. Hope they do it...
We need to be visible...

Saw some encouraging polls from Ky.
Still, I feel that the campaign can milk it more...Needs some more ammunition. Think thay are hampered by cash I think though.....

Loving the enthusiasm bro, keep it going

This black brother salutes U!

I'm going to send the Maya Angelou essay to friends tomorrow ..I'm not too proficient on the computer, but can type it as an e-mail and ask people to forward it on to people on their list..The more people who read this the better.

Jason..thank you for bringing this to my attention.

Jason..President Clinton made some very moving remarks about how their campaign has been saved financially by the10 and 20 dollor internet congtributions.

You could feel a strong emotional response from the audience.

I need to get to bed. I'm taking my Hillary signs out for
morning rush hour..Lots of good feedback..goodnight

Jason..President Clinton made some very moving remarks about how their campaign has been saved financially by the10 and 20 dollar internet congtributions.

You could feel a strong emotional response from the audience.

I need to get to bed. I'm taking my Hillary signs out for
morning rush hour..Lots of good feedback..goodnight

You gotta love this.

Got an email from my dad, saying that the neighbours have two bumper stickers on their car:
"DON´T BLAME ME! I VOTED FOR HILLARY"

Craig,

Good job on video on Johnny McCain on front page cq.

It is after 6:00 edt and no new edition . Hve been up all sleepless night. Wanted to be first this am.

Good article:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/four_stumps_in_the_water_for_o.html

Julie

Forgot to say: Happy April's Day !

Julie

Julie,

Do you really call it April's Day, or is that a politically correct version of what I grew up with? Either way, happy April Fool's Day for those who may be a little more like me?

My kids are all serious young people now, but I expect at least one of the four will come up with some way to mess with old dad today.

So far, it looks like Mr. Crawford started all of us off with an April Fools joke with no new thread. Unless it's posting while I type.

I am tired of pro-Barak Dems who are in positions of power treating Hil'ry like Obama's stalker. A big win in PA for Clinton is their worst nightmare because it might mean they didn't jump on the right bandwagon. The strength of their convictions is about on par with wet tissue paper.

Risks Digest: man trapped in traffic circle for 14 hours.....

http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/24.22.html#subj1

Seems Tuzla wasn't as safe as Sen. Clinton's opponents would like you to believe

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/01/opinion/01muscatine.html?ex=1364702400&en=290d270f17dfda76&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

It is interesting that Angelou is using her famous poem about not being able to keep black folk down as they rise with strength and power out of slavery and then turn it around to liken it to the struggle of a woman to be equal:

http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/still-i-rise/

OD

Here is the whole angelou article with the Hillary version of rise. You can just copy the link and paste it into an email

http://womensspace.wordpress.com/2008/02/14/dr-maya-angelou-rise-hillary-rise/

Thanks for the link Jamie...but instead of parsing every word and digging into this for a week...it'll get the passing mention it got on MoJo this morning...not worth spending an entire week of coverage on the truth...

"These facts explain why many of us, including the first lady, believed that the conditions on the ground were precarious. We were worried about sniper fire and were prepared to rush off the tarmac when we landed.

In their single-minded focus on the landing in Tuzla, reporters and commentators have omitted any discussion of what Mrs. Clinton accomplished on her trip. In addition to showing support for our troops and for the peace accords in Bosnia, Mrs. Clinton met with Bosnian religious leaders, women and community activists and, when she returned to Washington, was able to give administration officials her firsthand assessment of the nascent reconstruction effort. "

More than three billion in cost overruns

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/01/washington/01weapons.html?ref=us

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap_campaignplus/20080317/ap_ca/on_deadline_arrogance

"The dictionary defines the word as an "offensive display of superiority or self-importance; overbearing pride." Obama may not be offensive or overbearing, but he can be a bit too cocky for his own good.

The freshman senator told reporters in July that he would overcome Hillary Rodham Clinton's lead in the polls because "to know me is to love me."

A few months later, he said, "Every place is Barack Obama country once Barack Obama's been there."

mornin', all.

jamie, HOW DARE YOU post a report that makes Hillary's trip to Bosnia appear less like a beach vacation and more like a trip into dangerous country. SHAME ON YOU, you Clintonista. hahahahah

Alternet reports in a blog comment on democratic superdelegate wussies who want to take sides without consequences from supporters of the other side? And it refers to her supporters as Clintonistas? Now that's news you can rely on. Here's news for them - there won't be a clear winner before June, waiting until later to declare your support won't avoid whatever consequences might occur as a result of your declaration, unless you held high office under Bill or there is some other chit that Clinton holds, you are inflating your ego too much and Carville won't be talking about you on Meet the Press, and Hillary's' supporters aren't going to support you after you come out against her. Case in point - Jay Rockefeller won't get campaign donations from me again. Tough sh*t - get it from Obama supporters. Still, I'll vote for him as opposed to his repug opponent, assuming one emerges.

And I know this is old news, but here's WaPo's article in today's paper on the Jackson resignation.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/31/AR2008033102672.html

Dear Craig, Everyone:
Good morning,
I want to thank Lard, Oregon Democrat, Wendy and all for your support. I duly appreciate with all my heart, Thank you all. I know I should not let it bother me, however I am very passionate about politics and those I support, we all should be because it affects our very lives, those nearest and dearest to us, whether its our children who need special care, or our parents growing old and in need of special care or husbands and wives sister and brother that affects them medically or financially in an unexpected way.

We all have our honorable causes, whether they be crusades and protests or crosses we must bear them.

We must in many cases fight for them in that true American spirit whether it be from the Boston Tea Party, to the surrender at Yorktown, brother against brother in the Civil War, the Bataan Death March in the Philippines, the raising of the flag at Iwo Jima to the Shores of Normandy, to the jungles of Vietnam to current day Iraq War, the one common bond though all of that history was unity and America does not give up.

American soldiers throughout history have died face down in the mud, not for a president, or congressperson or senator, they did it for The American Flag and for what that flag represents, freedom, the Constitution and all she stands for.

As a Catholic I say many martyrs and saints have risked death and died to protect The Holy Eucharist from desecration. Many heroes have died defending our flag.

We must honor those traditions and pass them on to a new generation, a generation where a woman or an African American can be president, I just do not believe that Barack Obama is the right African American there are better qualified African Americans [Harold Ford Jr.] So despite the pain and agony of a sexist, misogynist media all those that support Hillary must continue the fight, stay the course. She is a "course" worthy of the fight not because as some traitors would say that the Clinton's "have a sense of entitlement" but because we share common values and whats best for America.

--Heather

Well the Texas delegate count is in:

Obama 98
Clinton 94

Think I'll wait for the REAL numbers to come in:

"Anyway, Mr. Nieto said, the allegiances of those chosen will not be clear or official until June 5 to 7 at the state Democratic convention in Austin. Along, of course, with the choices of 35 unpledged delegates, 32 superdelegates and 3 appointed by the state party chairman."

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/31/texans-take-their-time/

After they've straightened out all the Obama campaign shenanigans and cheating.

In My thanks I apologize I left out Pogo thank you Pogo as well:-))

Sincerely,
Heather

""It just wouldn't let me get
out of the circle," said Newone. "I was in the inner-most lane, and every
time I tried to get out, the steering wheel refused to budge and a voice
kept saying over and over, 'warning, right lane is occupied.' "It just wouldn't let me get
out of the circle," said Newone. "I was in the inner-most lane, and every
time I tried to get out, the steering wheel refused to budge and a voice
kept saying over and over, 'warning, right lane is occupied.' "

ROFL, Sturge! Charlie on the MTA!

Link below is a petition requesting votes in Michigan and Florida be counted.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/countFLoridaandMichigan/index.html

Leave it to men to notice the dress and not the substance ooops I forgot we were talking about Mika
:-))
--Heather

Current State of the Texas Primary
Produced by Burnt Orange Report
TX Primary-Chosen Results (March 4)
Primary Delegates
Clinton 65
Obama 61
Total 126
% (of 126) Clinton 51.59%, Obama 48.41%= 100%

TX Caucus-Chosen Results (93.59% reporting)
Caucus Delegates
Clinton 30
Obama 37
Total 67
% (of 67) Clinton 43.39%,Obama 55.61%=Total 100%

TX Delegate Results - Total
Clinton 95
Obama 98
Total 193
% (of 193) Clinton 49.22%, Obama 50.78%=100%

We must honor those traditions and pass them on to a new generation, a generation where a woman or an African American can be president, I just do not believe that Barack Obama is the right African American there are better qualified African Americans [Harold Ford Jr.] So despite the pain and agony of a sexist, misogynist media all those that support Hillary must continue the fight, stay the course. She is a "course" worthy of the fight not because as some traitors would say that the Clinton's "have a sense of entitlement" but because we share common values and whats best for America.

--Heather

Posted by: Heather | April 1, 2008 8:55 AM

Heather, Very nice indeed. Except for the last paragraph. That one could have been worded a little bit differently and made your point while not appearing as devisive.

However, you have a right to be this way.

Pogo

Please continue reminding us that the potential Supreme Court nominations would prove catastrophic, if the scalia/alito version prevailed. That may be the
ultimate reason to vote for either democrat for those of us who may waiver if our choice is not the nominee.

Dear Sheila
I try hard not to be divisive but at the same time I have to balance that with what I perceive as unfair and defending a cause and a candidate I believe in. In any event I value and respect your opinion

Sincerely,
Heather

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Thanks Heather. I appreciate your opinion.

In politics since the country began, every candidate has a season of perceived unfair treatment. Their supporters are either right or they are truly loyal to a fault and see damage where there is none.

I understand this season of politics is also a season where the media is manipulating well meaning yet very very green voters into thinking there is a problem where there is none.

I would just like to express that the Obama supporters are feeling the same way. So aggressive is the media to whip up reality where there is none.

OK, Off the slime stump!.......Ouch..... ;0)

i guess heather still has those values 'that seem to have been deemed obsolete by some obama supportors ''
honor '' loyalty '' respect'' dignity

Coreen, rest assured - I will. btw, have I told you how intelligent I've always considered you? heheheh

LOL Sheila

I would not mind being in your position as far as the media is concerned in context to you as an Obama Supporter

--Heather :-))

For all the centrist-minded people who are still considering their allegiance to Obama. I ask you this; why out of all the work Obama could have done was his efforts directed towards the names that keep coming up? He chose to serve as a director on the very LIberal board of the Woods Fund. After 9/11 when it was clear about some of the remarks Wright had made, Rezko gave money to Obama's friend Khadili. It was clear what Ayer had said. Khadili was recieving money from the Woods Fund as well as Obama's Trinity Church. Ayer was a fellow board member. Can you picture Rezko's wife, Khadili's wife and Ayer's wife having drinks at a party? Was this what JFK was doing before becoming President?

So here you have Obama in the middle of the nexus between Rezko, Khadili, AAAN, Trinity, not to mention Ayers and his wife. Out of all the webs Obama could have gotten tangled up in, isn't it clear he had worked on this web for more than twenty years?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/realclearpolitics/20080331/cm_rcp/four_stumps_in_the_water_for_o

The last stump is the most dangerous because it shows Obama to be lying about Politico's characterization of him. Obama sat there after 9/11 next to a guy who announced on 9/11 he hadn't bombed America enough. Worse, Trinity and Khadili who support very anti-Israeli positions meet at Woods Fund. There are thousands of Funds and even more groups hoping for money. Obama is linked to those he sought out. Are we really going to elect a President that chose his friends and philanthropies and then denies their ideology and that these were even close friends or important associations? How dumb are we?

Rezko just said that the ethics bill in Illinois was just window dressing. Goolsbee said Obama's spin on NAFTA was just primary dressing. When are we to hold people to a standard of credibility? Did Power lie about Obama's position on Iraq? Did Rice lie, did McPeak, did Zbig? It is clear Obama wants to put out the fires. We know were smoldering issues can lead.

So I ask all the objective people, why did Obama sit on Woods Fund in the first place? How can Obama say he wasn't close to Rezko and didn't know who Auchi was or that Rezko helped his friend Khadili? How can Obama say he didn't know Khadili's views or that AAAN worked with Cairs? How can he say he didn't know the things his own Church said and issued in newsletters, or even that Woods Fund gave money to both Trinity and the AAAN? Why these associations and not others? Why Obama's advisors and not others? Why Rezko/Auchi and not others? How is any of this not very Liberal, not pro-Palestinian, not questionable in light of Obama's campaign spin? Please tell me Obama was frank when these issues first came up.

How is this lying and deflecting many powers greater than the spin Hillary put on her trip to Bosnia? Isn't there an attempt by Liberal media to demonize Hillary and ignore issues that would sink MCCain or Clinton?You know Obama will not answer these questions though they speak directly about character, his vison and judgment and the future of an Obama administration. Perhaps Obama is hoping this stuff won't gather steam until after he is in the WH. Though Hillary knows about all this stuff, she can't play it. Obama's fall will not be her doing, but rather Obama's record.

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