Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Good Morning,

I would like to think that any candidate who wins that NOM has a chance in most Blue states. Especially with McCain.....

I might add. That this is the process whether or not people like it.

I have never seen a party 100% like a candidate until after that candidate has left the Oval Office.

But I have always seen Parties circle the wagon and fight until the end of a campaign.

Ok, now you guys go and swing away. I'm off to work. have a great day.

can't help myself but I must say that Bush did not win Ohio, he stole it. whatever happens in Ohio, the Democrats had better come together, right now (thank you, Beatles) or they're going to implode and McCain is going to drive his humvee through the huge black hole they've created, with only themselves to blame. what I don't understand is the vast differences in the various polls being touted. what's with that?

Seems as if the WSJ is preparing for Sen Obama's coronation by segments of the Democratic Party:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120450564143806509.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

The John Fund commentary on the op-ed page is titled Obama and Chicago Mores.

The piece 'tries' to be nonjudgmental while laying the ground work for cries like, "Will the Senator testify on Mr Rezko's behalf?", or did he appear before the grand jury, etc.

Obviously there's no time to let these questions mature (fester) before tomorrow's primaries, or even, perhaps, before the convention.

But, clearly, the Repugs want Mr Obama's Chicago political doings on the table in the couple of months before the general election.

And, as for the Journal, they publish _nothing_ on their editorial pages without a reason or clearcut overarching purpose which, in this case, is the election of a Republican candidate.

Poor Craig! So you really think that Obama can't win the nomination. Even though you have been rooting for Hillary and John McCain, I will continue to watch you. Keep raising the bar for Obama and he'll continue to jump over it. Well John McCain had news for Barack and Barack had news for John McCain and Bush. Well I got news for everybody, Barack Obama will be the next President of the United States. It would be nice to have some talking heads that reflect the demographics of the country instead of the same o same o with the 1900's political views. Oh well maybe that's why I'm on the computer with 15 seconds of fame and you all are on the big screen. Newflash for everyone: John McCain (great American hero, that he is, and not sure how many remember the Vietnam War, I do, I'm 56) will not win the Presidency.

Good morning...

Just a quick Happy Birthday to jamie.

God Bless.

Nylor P, welcome to our little corner of the internets. You can be famous here anytime you like.

Now i am not saying Obama cannot win the nomination. But I am saying let the voters vote and when he gets the nominating majority of delegates, he'll be the nominee.

Good Morning Craig-
Saw you on Morning Joe. Too bad they brushed off your comments about Obama's trade rep telling Canada that Obama was only kidding when he said he would re-negotiate NAFTA. I hope Hillary talks about this all day today.

AP Obtains Memo of Obama Aide's NAFTA Conversation

"You know, when everyone else, including Obama and his team, as well as the traditional media (and the Obama blogs) were ignoring it or saying that there was nothing there. Cable network, blogs and the media blasted headlines that the CTV story had been debunked when it hadn't at all. The AP now has the evidence. A memo they obtained that proves top Obama adviser Austan Goolsbee did indeed reassure the Canadian government about NAFTA. Of course, Goolsbee is denying their characterization to the AP, with the Obama team holding his hand while he talks to them and tries to walk the story back.

Obama denied the meeting outright to reporters last week, as did Obama's team. Now that the memo has surfaced, they know this is very bad news, leaving Goolsbee up to his neck in trouble.

In the end this is really about trust and about Obama saying one thing flat out to reporters, when something else had obviously gone down. Unless he's going to say that he didn't know what Goolsbee was doing, which is even worse. Regardless, what you're left with is double talk. You know, that stuff old time city pols do when no one is looking, while presenting another image in public to people at election time to get their vote. Politics as usual, baby. Hope just left the building. It's been replaced by bait and switch."

http://taylormarsh.com/

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JAMIE (thanks anon)

It seems that GORDO wants to get traffic for Taylor Marsh's website as he is constantly posting links to stories from her site here.

I link to TM and have for a long time. However, I don't post links to her stories like GORDO always does. This is Craigs Blog and I'm sure that others if interested can find plenty of other sites with stories that bum rap Obama and don't need to be constantly fed links to TM's site.

Oh by the way I haven't read Taylor for a long time since she started bashing Obama.

God Bless.

*Yawn*. No really. I'm sleepy. Good day all!

Craig...
You were good this morning on Joe's show. Got to go now.

Take care and ...

God Bless.

anon-paranoid --------------------------------

Truth can be a difficult thing to accept. Obama is a FlimFlam artist who has been protected by MSM. He is a con man! The Repubs would destroy him in the GE.

Thank you AP. Thank you Craig (now there may be more than enough of me, but as yet I'm not plural).

Good job on Mojo this morning. If the Obama team had not made such a production of what a Clinton surrogate had said, they would be in such deep doo doo over what one of their surrogates did.

As to your point about letting voters vote, there was one person on CNN this weekend say, what is so bad about saying, "Stay Tuned" and just letting news happen. This is the first presidential campaign we have had with the overwhelming presence of three 24 hour cable channels plus the networks, locals, newspaper, and internet ... all trying to fill up space and time. Instead of letting the campaigns develop state by state, they have been dogged all the way by newsies clamoring for more, new stuff. It hasn't been good for the process.

Interesting interview with Joe Klein on MoJo....I don't like Klein because he's so weasely but he said something very important: John McCain is light on substance. He said that of the three final candidates, it is McCain who lacks a good grasp of the issues. I think he's right, plus, when I watched a talk of McCain's over the weekend, I thought he acted even more senile than usual.

If McCain wins over either Clinton or Obama, it won't be over the issues. It will be because of a trumped up security threat that will scare hell out of people.

Flatus, just thought I'd dredge up some muck on John Fund because it's fun to do it and he deserves it. He has a lot of chutzpa talking mores. He should be under a big rock, and the WSJ should be embarrassed to tout him as any kind of expert on anything except his own hipocrisy.

http://www.americanpolitics.com/sc20010904connolly.html

Obama Nailed on NAFTA-Gate (“Obama, you are busted.”)

"The memo obtained by the AP was widely distributed within the Canadian government. It is more than 1,300 words and covers many topics that DeMora said were discussed in the Feb. 8 ”introductory meeting” between himself, Goolsbee and the consul general in Chicago, Georges Rioux."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/

Ghoulsbee should be fired posthaste and the campaign should distance themselves from his errant ways.

Colleen, thanks for the link.

The Journal is one of the world's great newspapers. But, their editorial policy is to the right of Attila the Hun. (I apologize to Huns; this is nothing personal against that group.)

I've tried weaning myself from the Journal several times over the past thirty years, but always return because it is such a good paper.

One good reason to watch Mojo ...to see Craig.
I appreciate the honest reporting Craig gives us.
Did anyone see Fox news ...I think it was Friday on Hannity about William Ayers. Why isn't the main media talking about this???

colleen ---------------------------

Dems should "fire" Obama before he gets the nomination.

Craig,

Thanks for bringing up G memo re Canada intro meeting, it's time HRC gets a break. MoJo may dismiss but maybe HC Clinton will pick up.

MOJo did say some momentum in Ohio 12 pts ahead, but some polls have them even in Texas.

Beginning to hate Barnacle, he is so in the tank for Obama.

Mornin' all -

Craig, caught you on MoJo - great comments - You are so in the pocket of Hillary. :-{) No, actually, your points are, or should be, well taken - 1. what's the rush, let the voters vote, 2. if Obama doesn't win OH or PA, Hillary has good argument that she's won all the large Dem states that dems have to carry to win the general and 7 of 8 of all the big states so the delegates need to wake up.

I laugh every time an Obama supporter starts predicting gloom and doom if Hillary doesn't leave the race tomorrow. I'm of the opposite opinion - while the repugs have their presumptive nominee, they don't know where to shoot until the dems have the same, the repug 527s that will crop up can't start going after both dem candidates without looking ridiculous but the dem 527s know their target, and McCain attacks Obama or Clinton on the presumption that one or the other is the candidate - and people can ask "so what?" The party will coalesce around the nominee when there is one, so everyone settle down.

Here is a little clip from the actual AP story:

"Goolsbee disputed a section that read: "Noting anxiety among many U.S. domestic audiences about the U.S. economic outlook, Goolsbee candidly acknowledged the protectionist sentiment that has emerged, particularly in the Midwest, during the primary campaign. He cautioned that this messaging should not be taken out of context and should be viewed as more about political positioning than a clear articulation of policy plans.'"

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jrFPkleRZmbmPtPxHBGNAPSzfUtwD8V5OLP00

Oh, and Colleen, thanks for the Yiddish--this campaign season deserves it in liberal quantities.

One of my dear friends grew-up in Chicago. He was an absolutely brilliant man, a true humanitarian, and a dedicated dental surgeon. He told me that he couldn't speak a single sentence in English until he entered public schools--Yiddish was the language at home and in his neighborhood.

RIP Ed Gilberg, DDS.

I've stopped watching MoJo. But, if I know when Craig will be on and the approximate time, I'll go ahead and watch.

Imus is addictive. And this morning Doris Kearns Goodwin was on. She's my kind of scholar.

So a little good news for Clinton supporters. The Suffolk poll is out and as we know...Suffolk is the ONLY one that got New Hampshire right...what does Suffolk poll say...drum roll please...

Clinton kicks Obama's behind in Ohio

"A poll conducted Saturday and Sunday by Boston's Suffolk University showed Clinton with a 52 percent to 40 percent lead over Obama."

:-D

Even though most people here think/insist the CTV story has been debunked...perhaps some Ohioans don't and feel betrayed.

All I'm saying is that this story is not going away. What will happen to him in PA as more and more evidence (like the memo the AP is talking about) comes out that his campaign is lying?

I would say that all those old boys in the Dem party that were flappin' their jaws last night about Hillary getting out better hang on because I bet Hillary goes on after Tuesday...Obama will get caught in this lie...once he gets caught in this one more questions about the "Authenticity of Hope" will start to arise (especially w/ Rezko starting up today) and his campaign will be over.

colleen hussein rodham :-) I don't have a dog in this hunt, but I think you are right about Goolsbee. He's put Obama in the same position as the proverbial company president who got on the stand and denied any wrongdoing by his company, only to be presented with irrebuttable proof that the underling he based his tesimony on was lying. That scenario is an attorney's nightmare, and I expect it is the same for Obama and his loitical staff.

Gordo, unlike AP, I don't mind the TM links - the same could be said for HuffPo and WaPo at one time or another here. Until Craig asks you to stop it, Ignore the protestations of the Obama campers.

Flatus, you're quite welcome. I grew up in a wonderfully diverse neighborhood (remember those?) with a rich mix of ethnic, racial, cultural, and economic backgrounds. Our next door neighbors were a Jewish couple, both of whom had been in concentration camps during WWII, and they were terrified when they could see the fires from the downtown steel mill's blast furnaces late at night. The family's kitchen window opened into our backyard, a true Molly Goldberg experience. Best potato pancakes on Earth and beyond!

Jamie:

I saw a quote from Dianne Feinstein yesterday - I guess she was on one of the morning news shows - saying Hillary should not listen to anyone and fight on as long as she felt necessary. Interesting how one female voice came out yesterday to say...FIGHT ON! amidst a chorus of male voices saying drop out.

I think I've forgiven Feinstein for whatever it was I was mad at her about...see now I can't even remember why I said I would never vote for her again.

:-D

Wendy!, mornin'. I agree with you - If HRC wins only OH & RI tomorrow, I'm betting she stays in through PA at least. And the CTV memo has undebunked the Goolsbee story and it will, and should stay alive - Goolsbee's denial doesn't alter the message of the memo, and WADR to all those true believers, the Canadian Government likely has more interest in accruately reporting the content of a conversation with an economic advisor of one of the 3 likely next presidents of the US about an issue critical to the financial future of Canada than the compaign of that candidate does. Obama steped in it when he took Goolsbee at his word and has stayed in it by keeping Goolsbee on staff. Doesn't sound like very good staff management to me, and isn't that one of the main jobs of a president?

pogo...

My only objection is that GORDO generally always posts links to items that bash Obama. There are just as many links out there that say Obama is not a target by Patrick Fitzgerald such as these two below.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4361454&page=1

http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/editorblog/056

Now I would still like to see Hillary Clinton release her and Bill's tax returns sooner rather than later.

All the other candidates have released theres so why is she delaying releasing hers. Does she have something to hide?

Only saying.

God Bless.

tan, here's a link to Larry Johnson's take on the Ayers issue for Obama - the bit about Ayers is about halfway into the comment.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-c-johnson/no-he-cant-because-yes_b_87036.html

Hannity smells blood, but I'm not so sure this issue will have the legs he hopes it will. It doesn't look good on the surface, and the damge willcome from the wuestions, not necessarily the answers.

Jamie,

Happy 29th Birthday!!!

Craig, you offer a very cogent and legitimate argument with regards to Obama's electability though something positive could be said for once trailing by 20 points to only lose by 2.

Also, am I the only person here that thinks Howard Wolfsson is a cocky SOB? Why doesn't he realize that if the campaign was doing as well as he thinks, HRC would be measuring curtains right now for her office?

AP, and I would expect that you and the rest of the Obama caers would provide those links and links to articles bashing Hillary, even if they are from the same place time after time.

One more thing. Do you really think that Fitzgerald would not indict Obama if he was guilty of anything?

Fitzgerald wouldn't hesitate to indict Obama if he was guilty of what many here and elsewhere are accusing him of.

Just a smear to destroy him is all this crap is, nothing more and nothing less.

God Bless.

I need to stay off now. Maybe I can catch you all later.

God Bless.

Hey Pogo

Obama knows what kind of heat Hillary took for her staff issues...he didn't want to have to fire anyone because it breaks into that image of a perfect campaign. Now...if he has to throw ole Goolsbee under the bus for lying...a lie that he backed him up on...ouch...bad judgment. He'll need to spend some dough on a new commercial with a new message. Judgment...now also off the table.

If Hillary loses TX it will be by 1 or 2 points at the VERY most and so it would be worth it for her to stay in until PA. Think I'll go donate and send a note letting her know it's so she can do just that.

The old boys club will ratchet up their pressure on the superDs to come over to the Obama side and try to force her to end it. They think Hillary staying in the race will damage the Dem party?...wait until they put pressure on the superDs to force a premature end to the race...the Dem party will fracture (remember in the popular vote Clinton is within what half a million or so votes of Obama and she carries a majority of the Democratic base) - could be the end of the Dem party.

AP, while I agree with you about the tax returns, the sources of her and Bill's income is set forth in excruciating detail in a 42 page financial disclosure. Suggesting she hasn't disclosed her finances is not truthful, compadre.

Colleen said, "... I grew up in a wonderfully diverse neighborhood (remember those?) with a rich mix of ethnic, racial, cultural, and economic backgrounds..."

Of course I remember those neighborhoods--it was just like ours in Cleveland back in the 40s and 50s.

Remembering those days is what makes me so dismayed by Alpha's remarks that I took to mean that separate but _really_ equal was what a lot of well-off younger AA professionals wanted. If he's accurate, and I think that he probably is, it doesn't bode well for our country.

pogo...

Before I get in trouble posting when I shouldn't be I have stayed out of much of this because I see it possibly destroying the Democratic Party.

Yeah, laugh since no one thinks that is a real possibility, however it is. Let the voters decide and support your candidate proudly.

But stop the bashing of both candidates since we could end up losing the elections due to bad blood being drawn with the constant bashing of each others candidates.

That's all I'm saying, think about it.

God Bless.

Pogo,

No disclosure is considered complete until it has been documented to be submitted to the IRS.

Hillary can't have it both ways. She has come out against No Doc mortgage loans. If that is the case, she can't run a No Doc campaign.

For the purpose of getting a loan, only verifiable income, that which has been submitted to the IRS for tax purposes, can be used. You can fake anything you want, but once you declare it's what you submitted to the IRS, then if you are lying, you have fraud, tax evasion and other charges hanging over your head.

"Beginning to hate Barnacle, he is so in the tank for Obama."

Barnacle hates Bill Clinton with a passion...my God sometimes he turned into a complete self-righteous a-hole over the impeachment.

AP, who here has suggested that Obama is guilty of anything other than bad judgment? I haven't read the weekend posts, and don't have time to do that today, but I haven't seen anything that suggests he has done anything illegal wrt Rezko or Ayers, but rather have heard questions about the company he keeps.

Wendy!, actually, USA election polls, which looks only at the primary popular vote totals - since the caucuses produce ridiculous results - places Obama at a popular vote advantage so far of 86,168.

I can feel the MSM starting to rev their engines to attack BO now. They have spent all this time building him up, so the tear down was inevitable. The MSM would rather create the news than report it. Do we really need 24/7 news coverage?

Wendy,

The current polling data that I am hearing here in Fort Worth is that Hillary is trailing by 1 to 6%, depending on the poll. In each instance, there is still a Keith number around 10%.

Yes, she may have a justification to remain if she eeks out victories, but when you have the state's political machine at your disposal and you are only able to get a 1% win or loss, than couldn't you use Craig's electability argument against her as well?

As I sit here, I am wondering what held Craig back from making a comparison to Ned Lamont...

Texas politics can be really mean--remember how Ann Richards was savaged by Shrub.

Pogo, Bad judgment??? You mean, why didn't he talk to a lawyer??? Gimme a break.

Oh Pogo - how I wish we could throw out the caucus' they are undemocratic...but...unfortunately we can't and if we don't include their totals...many states will be left out...I'm not for leaving ANY STATE OUT. ;-)

And AP - I think what some call bashing is really just others bringing up legitimate questions/concerns regarding someone's experience...background...judgment....electability. If this is the criteria the candidates themselves say we should vote for them on, why then should we not ask questions about that. As an Independent voter...I base my vote on the candidate (hopefully a vetted candidate) and not on party affiliation.

Flatus,

I'm new the the Texas political world, but this campaign has been relatively clean. Even the governor's race in 2006 didn't seem to stir up much muck.

I think the dirtbag that was stirring up the muck, Karl Rove, has been removed from the local equation enough to clean things up.

The only heated debates I am seeing here are for the local elections and those are hinging on immigration policy more than anything else that I see...

WHERE THE HELL IS THE CANADIAN MEMO STORY ON THIS SITE ....OBAMA DENIES IT ALL WEEK AND NOW A MEMO SHOWS UP PROVING HE LIES ............MSM IS COVERING IT BUT THE BLOGS HAVENT EVEN MENTIONED IT

Bear...I know the narrative is that she needs to win big in TX. I don't think she'll win TX big - I believe she'll only eek out a win there. I only say it's worth it for her to stick it out to PA because of Goolsbee Gate...PA is like OH if they suspect Obama is talking out the side of his mouth...could change the complexion of PA for Hillary. She's got pretty good leads in a few other states as well but PA could be a big win for her depending on how the Goolsbee Gate thing plays out.

tz
you dont expect the blogs to say anything negative about obama especially when its true

Bear, thanks for the encouraging report. IMO, Rove will be around for the general, albeit at the national level.

The fact is, Bear, I get the distinct impression that the Hillary bashers here haven't even bothered to look at the disclosure that has been made to the FEC, rather than carp about disclosing a tax return that isn't due to be filed for another 6 1/2 weeks, and that may not be completed as they bleat about it not being disclosed. And while she couldn't likely apply for a loan using the FEC disclosure, that isn't what she's doing - she's running for president and is required to provide a certified financial statement, which she has done. She is not required to provide a tax return to the media, which she has not. If her certification to the FEC differs from her tax return, I'm sure the IRS investigators will be having a little talk with her and Bill. In the meantime, I'd recommend not trying to gin up an issue that I quite frankly don't think is legitimate.

Wendy,

The problem with that strategy is that with a 1% win, HRC will lose delegates to Obama when the dust settles. His campaign is a lot more organized on the ground here. The way the math is, he is more likely to win the areas like Austin and in the Metroplex that are weighted with the extra delegates because of the 2006 vote.

BTW, Isn't it sad that the only hope for a particular candidate is that scandal charges start getting thrown up against a wall until a charge sticks?

We should have a pool to bet which charge leads to a $150 million investigation that het Obama a hummer and another stained Gap dress?

pogo and wendy...

There inferring that Obama did something wrong and\or illegal.

As to the Caucus in Texas. Bill Clinton won both the Primary and Caucus in both 92 and 96 and they didn't think there was anything wrong with it then. So why now?

Because Obama does well in the Caucuses.

God Bless.

No, Flatus, why in the world would Obama need to talk to a lawyer? As I said, I haven't heard anyone accuse himof anything other than bad judgment. I mean why didn't he tie the story down before he ran out and denied it at the top of his lungs? The lawyer thing I mentioned is only an analogy.

Blind rock guitarist Jeff Healey has passed away.

http://www.canada.com/reginaleaderpost/news/story.html?id=96dd979b-604d-4b10-bffb-ad126fed902c&k=57139

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBBCJ68mC4c

I still think this is going to convention.

It is interesting to see BHO getting some scrutiny on the airwaves and it is a signal that things will be rocky in November.

AP, who's implying Obama did something illegal? I haven't seen any such accusationor implication.

I also find it interesting that everyone doesn't care if the Huckster stays in the race (no pressure on him), but feel HRC must step aside before BHO has won the nomination by garnering enough delegates. I believe HRC will win Pennsylvania and then there are Michigan and Florida votes. If I am wrong, at least I know that I will get a lot of "I told you so" and gloating. That is one prediction I can make.

Wendy,

Feinstein is one of my favorite politicians. My guess is she did something conservative that ticked you off. :-) She makes no bones about being the less liberal part of the Feinstein/Boxer team.

TZ

It is not necessary to scream. The info on the Canadian communication is all over this blog. Try reading.

A TX win for Obama on Tuesday says nothing about Nov (Repubs are voting for him just to stop Hillary). Dems are unlikely to carry TX in the GE. It only matters because of delegates. OH is far more important.

Who is inferring that Obama did something illegal...inferring that he more than likely lied and is in the process of getting caught...yes...illegal...nobody here anyway has said that.

The Rezko remarks are simply that his involvement with him shows poor judgment. Rezko was under investigation for 2 years - and more than likely under investigation by the FBI as well - at the time Obama did the property transaction with him. Obama himself says it was a bone head thing to do. I think some of us are just pointing out that it speaks to his judgment. Obama put judgment on the table...not us.

Bear...what I wrote is kind of in answer to you. If Obama puts himself above everyone and says he's going to bring change to Washington and represent a new kind of politics...then I believe it is legitimate to call him on it and if necessary use it as a strategic point in the race. Sorry...that's politics. I think Obama supporters have trumpeted that a few times when Hillary has made some missteps.

obama's real estate deal is far from normal and has a stench to it ......seller wanted to sell house and lot on same day ....drops asking price from 360,000 to 180,000....retzko's wife buys lot on same day as house for 675,000 sells obama a piece for 105,000 and sells the rest of the lot for 525,000 taking a loss of 45,000........if their isnt something wrong here ...i will sell a bridge here in my city for a real bargin price

jamie, damn - I had no idea Jeff Healey was dying. I have been a huge Jeff Healey fan for 20 years - first heard him when a friend played a cassette tape of his first album - See the Light - for me. I have Cover to Cover in my car's CD player, and have spent untold hours listening to the Feel This album. I never got much into his jazz renderings, but he is one of the better blues and rock guitarists I've ever heard - certainly among the top half dozen. I saw him open for Bonnie Raitt about 15 years agos, and was amazed at how well a guitarist who spends almost all his playing time sitting could put on such a great show.

Hey Jamie...yes we talked about the Feinstein issue once a while ago...you convinced me to give her another chance I believe back then. I thought you had an interesting perspective on the Feinstein/Boxer CA tag team. After yesterday she's definitely back in the good column.

Remember way back when one of the Clinton Surrogates said something without the permission of the campaign and the Obama team jumped all over her. Now it's his turn to be lambasted for a surrogate with foot in mouth disease.

Craig was right. Give both campaigns a break on this sort of thing unless there is a direct connection to a paid employee working at the behest of the campaign itself.

As a cynic (and I don't mind living a dog's life or adhering to Buddhist ideals), all politicians are "dirty" and have been involved in some borderline legal deals. I do not believe you can get to the Senate without a lot of money. All of the candidates (with the exception of Huckabee, a governor) are millionaires. And people keep believing the rhetoric and keep throwing money at them. I still believe HRC is than the lesser of two evils or the most of two goods. She is also a better woman than BHO is a man. (And anyone Jack Nicholson supports, I will, too. Like Craig points out "you can't handle the truth.")

The news about Jeff Healy sucks...I was recently wondering what had happened to him. I would check the paper each week to see if he was on tour...between this news and the weather, it will be a shitty day indeed...

This is one of the best analysis that I've seen lately. Regardless of which of the two that we support, we must nominate the one who can win. I'm betting on Hillary.

Obama keeps telling his audience that Jay Rockefeller (who endorsed Obama) read the NIE intelligence report and that Senator Clinton didn't.

He doesn't mention that Jay Rockefeller voted exactly the same way as Senator Clinton after reading that information

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/Rockefellers_vote.html

i personally thing craig is one of the best pundits on the net and tv.......MSMBC should give him the tucker carlson show if just to add balance to that biased network.......is there a way we can draft him for the 6 pm slot???????????

Craig,

You never cease to amaze me. You can find an Obama defeat in any scenario. Only you can project a primary election as an arbiter for a national election.

Jamie...all weekend long Jay Rockefeller has been campaigning with BHO and it is such BS. I forced myself to watch BHO in Ohio and I was not impressed at all. I just cannot warm-up to his stump speech...my hubby says I should get used to it. Just can't at this point. I am still for HRC all the way.

This country is so against women...really appalling in some way. 12% gender bias vs. 6% racial bias.

Great appearance today on Morning Joe! Nice to see you again. And so nice to see their faces when you don't wave your Obama banner. Thank God for your voice of reason and perspective. Keep brining it, Craig!

Future Craig Headlines:

(After Hillary drops out of the race): Beware of the Nader Factor:

Barack Obama may have won the Democratic nomination, but unless he wins the ten voters Ralph Nader will get in the general election, I don't think he really has a chance to beat John McCain...

(After Barack wins the general in a landslide): The Worst Thing Possible

Barack Obama has won an historic victory, but it might prove to be his downfall. By winning such an overwhelming victory, the electorate is going to expect him to be effective....

(After Barack wins second election, at 60% popularity): No Second Act.

President Obama did a great job his first term, but now he's destined for abject failure...

No bar too high for Obama.

BTW, good ole Charlie Crist is about to re-enfranchise Florida voters.

"The old boys club will ratchet up their pressure on the superDs to come over to the Obama side and try to force her to end it. They think Hillary staying in the race will damage the Dem party?...wait until they put pressure on the superDs to force a premature end to the race...the Dem party will fracture "

Wendy, you are really right with this one to the extent that if they just allow the election to run its course without media or power broker interference, then no matter how it ends up the proponents for the other side will come around in due course. It they screw around enough, there will be so many ill and injured feelings that they could be kissing the general goodbye. Sometimes the best thing you can do in a conflict is absolutely nothing.

Alpha1906

I don't really think that is fair. The concern for most of us on the Clinton side is that the bar for Senator Obama has been too low up till now or the one for Senator Clinton too high. Things are evening out a bit now and the best thing we can all do is simply wait for the people to decide.

I've voted for Jay Rockefeller twice, and have considered him to be a reasonable, if a bit (way, way) too much of a supporter of the mineral industry to be much of a liberal, but he was unopposed for all intents and purposes, so he got my vote. One of the last things in the world that Jay is is green, so understand that his support puts one of the wealthiest senators, whose wealth is directly from the Rockefeller carbon extraction fortune, directly supporting Obama. And good catch on the Oopsie about the NIE - Rockefeller did read it and did vote as Clinton did. Could that suggest that Jay is showing the same poor judgment now in endorsing and campaigning for Obama that he exercised when he voted for the RUMF? As they say, "And your point is?" (Directed at the Big O, jamie, not at you)

alpha, I absolutely do not believe that you have the ability to listen to anything Craig says and actually hear it through the Obama white noise ringing in your ears. Here, a little test - what democrat has ever won the nomination then the presidential election after losing the NY, CA, OH and PA democratic primaries? I'm betting jamie can answer this.

i'm with you on that Alpha. Wasn't it Craig who was complaining when his favorite football team lost 6-0, that the opponents really didn't win because that didn't score a touchdown.

Jeff Healey? Wow, that's terrible, even though not entirely unexpected...thanks for that heads up, Jamie.

Bamboozling the American electorate again

"Thanks to Karl Rove and his friends in the shadows, the Democratic nominee may ultimately be determined not by Democrats but by the G.O.P., with the help of its unwitting accomplices at the DNC."

(This is a very good article.)

http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html

Personally I think the damage has already been done to the democratic party. As time goes on, people stand firmer in their positions and gain more insight to how twisted this whole political season has been. MSM will never get my vote for BHO.

NEVER....I do not want to be a part of it.

Alpha, I'm glad yu are here...because I've been wondering if you could talk a little more about this school voucher issue. As I see it, we are headed down the road to one of the widest income gaps in our history. I understand that as a young, affluent guy -- black, white or hispanic -- you may see public schools as a failed system for your child. But vouchers are not going to help a young single mother who can barely put food on the table.

What I see this privatization of schools as doing is widening the class gap even further. We already have the poorly educated raising the poorly educated. And NCLB has done nothing to help this. Critical thinking is at a low. The public schools must be supported and improved. I fear that if we look to privatization to answer those problems, we're really headed toward a worsening of the two Americas that Edwards talked about.

Also, I've heard some conservatives talking about this whole "job training" concept starting earlier and earlier. We may be looking at a time when we are like the German system was when I lived there, with the Volkshochschule V. gymnasium decisions on "trade school versus college-bound" starting as low as the sixth grade.

dog's eye -- I agree....that WaPo swoop and swoon piece by Charlotte Allen is one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

Pogo,

Craig is making a classic fallacious argument. Affirming the Consequence. Remember in statistics class the adage, association is not causation?

Because Obama loses Ohio in a PRIMARY (closed to party members, where the vote will be split 50/50) has nothing to do with predicting how many party members will vote for a candidate in a GENERAL (all voters).

Craig...just sent you a photo of the Javelinas. I hope you enjoy it.

I have to run to work...have a great day, be careful and watch out for the other guy.

Killer tornadoes most likely tonight. : (

As Bill Clinton says...

Democrats need to fall in love with their candidate, Republicans fall in line...

Probably explains why Republicans love hookers so much too...

"I think I've forgiven Feinstein for whatever it was I was mad at her about...see now I can't even remember why I said I would never vote for her again."

Yet you berate Richardson for bending with the political winds...

Hillary should stay in it if she can really turn things around on Mar. 4 and show that there is a REAL chance that she can emerge as the clear winner. I don't think she should hang around if she is just going to try and knee-cap Obama (by paroting GOP attacks) and hope he makes a mistake.

Hey all,

Remember that Clinton doesn't just have to win, she has to win big. If not, this is simply going to be a slow drip of Obama being nomination versus a fast drip.

But knowing the Clinton's, they'll take GWB's Iraq strat to the convention. Keep pushing those goal posts forward!

It's Super Tuesday! Okay, that didn't work out.

It's Texas and Ohio! Okay, I got a split decision there.

It's Pennsylvania! Ah damn, I can't make a dent into Obama's delegate count.

It's seat the Florida delegates! Wait, who ordered another election? I want my original fake delegates, not some election where it really counts.

WAAAH WAAH! Give me back my nomination! WAAAH WAAAH!

What's the point of a primary contest if you want the one of canidates to give up? "say uncle"

What is the issue BHO supporters have in reagrds HRC staying in the race?

Wasn't Craig posting a couple of months ago that the safest pick for the Democratic side would be a Southern or other type white guy?

Perhaps he should have cajoled his colleagues into a pro white guy camp instead of being the anti white chick chorus...

i just watched a speech from obama on cnn between 11 and 11:10 where he stated that rockefeller voted against resolution on irag because of nie report ....its an out and out lie .....rockefeller voted for it the same as clinton....why dosnt anyone call him out when he lies ???.....judgement //what kind of judgement did he show voting present 138 times in ill

Fascinating to look at the names that voted Aye in that vote. I didn't realize Fritz Hollings was still in the Senate then...

Besides, Rockerfeller, Feinstein, Clinton, Harkin all voted aye...never thought Harkin would be on that list...

zumper

if that speech was on cnn why didnt the reporter or anchor bring that out .....good point on judgement issue

I heard an interesting take on the polls this weekend. The point is that the polls are based on what happened in previous elections. However, we have learned that Obama is bring a large amount of new voters into the process - so a poll based on prior years may underestimate Obama's support.

Let's hope so.

hey gang....
I'm up in the mountains in northern NH....

we rented an ethernet box for the week in order to get high speed internet access..... no dial-up this year.... weeeeeeeeee.......

going hot tubbing after lunch....
bought "Charlie Wilson's War" at a local bookstore.... so far it's a great read....

at this point.... I don't care who did or didn't vote for the war.... we're there and it's a mess..... I want to know what the candidates intend to do about it on Jan.21, 2009.....

GO DEMOCRATS.....

tz
thats my point ......if hillary made a mistatement it wou;ld be on all day

MSNBC keeps reporting clinton only up by 4 points when a u of cinn poll came out this morning having her up by 9 points ....and they have been accurate in ohio for years ........but that biased network will never give positive news for hillary

Zumper,

Now you are sounding like a homer idiot...No two polls out there are showing identical results and if this season hasn't already shown you anything, it's that few polls have been dead on accurate.

To hear the incessant whining coming from bitter Hillary supporters and nervous Obama supporters just reaffirms why the Republicans have been able to pillage this country.

You people are now the political equivalent of the guy who is given a chance to live out his dream to be Hugh Heffner for a week. When you get to the mansion you learn that you gay and even if you weren't, you couldn't perform anyway because you were shy...un F#$# real.

Hillary Clinton should have just come out and said she was running for Bill's 3rd term. All of her foreign policy experience is from that.

Obama should just come out and say that anyone with a half decent brain can f#$@# things up a lot less than the incumbent and that he has a better chance for having Congress actually work instead of running the hearings of death cycle again...

Warren:

quote: Yet you berate Richardson for bending with the political winds..."

Richardson v. Feinstein

Richardson -throws Hillary (supposedly a long time friend) under the bus on national TV while trying to portray himself as neutral but for all intensive purposes says she should get out of the race after Mar 4 - you know - for the good of the party. Then chuckles like he's all embarrassed when asked about VP.

Feinstein...sticks by Hillary because she firmly believes she is the best person for the job. REFUSES to bend to political pressure from the Democratic Party and give her support to Obama. REFUSES to join the chorus of party elders saying Hillary should get our of the race but instead encourages Hillary to FIGHT ON.

hmmm - YEP I think it's fair to berate Richardson for bending with the political winds and give credit to Feinstein for standing her ground.

You got it right Warren. We agree for once

;-)

See my earlier post

Suffolk has Hillary up by 12 points in Ohio

You all remember the Suffolk poll don't you?

Yes...that's right...the only poll that got it right in New Hampshire...the only one!

:-D

HRC supporters can take note that there will be a lot of provisional ballots to contend with tomorrow. I registered online last month and mailed in my form. I did so through the Rock the Vote link on the Obama site. It seems that they have no record of my registration.

I am being told that I need to file a provisional ballot, which would prevent me from voting in the caucus later in the day...

Now if it were the other way around, would you all be yelling the fix is in?

Hey Bear

No...I just think your predicament is further proof that our voting system in this country in many states (probably most states) is really messed up and instead of paying lip service to the issue...we really need to do something about it and make sure everyone who wants to vote gets to vote and that every vote counts.

A petition went around after the CA vote demanding the the wacky "unaffiliated" ballots where people did not mark the little bubble at the top be counted. I signed the petition as no matter what the outcome I believe everyone should have their say. At the time I signed the petition there were enough of these ballots that if every one of them went for Obama it would have almost put him over the top in CA. To me...more important that every vote count. If it means Obama winning in CA then so be it. It's why I think the DNC made a huge mistake by telling FL their delegates wouldn't count...they should have handled that differently from the beginning and now it's too late.

"you all"

Have you gone Texas on us, Bear?

bear
hope you are feeling well
this guy is going to ruin this country if elected ...he is a con artist..........3 years in the senate and no evidence he has crossed the aisle....his judgement is voting present 138 times in ill........he blames her vote on the war and excludes the that 77 senators voted the same way and takes endorsements from senators that voted for it also....FACT: bush would have attacked iraq with or without the vote on that resolution

"It's never good when a story that you've slapped down as false gets up and slaps you back - as the NAFTA story has just done to the Obama campaign."

http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/03/a_last_minute_bump_for_obama.html

quote is too good not to post - story is a rehash of the AP story.

alpha, et al

to expand on your 11:15 comment: "Remember in statistics class the adage, association is not causation?"

a most wonderful book "Aristotle and an Aardvark go to Washington" also makes your point in a most amusing way.

http://www.aristotleandanaardvark.com/

Zumper,

She voted in favor of the resolution so she wouldn't be seen as weak on defense. Others voted for it, but at least paid the voters lip service by saying it was an error. They did it before it before it was politically expedient to do so. By voting for what was an inevitability, then Hillary is just a follower looking to curry favor with voters when she runs for the White House 6 years later? If that's the case, she is a coward for running in 2008 instead of 2004.

With regards to Obama's present votes, of 4,000 plus votes, he votes present 130 times. At the times he voted present, how many others did so as well? What are the rules of that legislature with regards to that vote? Are you entitled to legislative tools or options for changing the bill if you do so?

I'm not going to form any types of judgments until I know more about the system in place.

I am offended that you, claiming to be a Democrat would make a blanket statement that he will ruin the country without any shred of evidence to back it up. I could make the same statement about anyone running for office, yet decorum and common sense precludes me from doing so.

Just because

Dog's Eye,

I was just on the phone with those clowns for the last half hour. I am convinced the yokel couldn't find his ass even though it's the large calloused thing he spends his whole day on...

I have faxed them my registration for that I mailed in last month, clearly showing that I had filled in the required information from the get go...still, I am not to be found...

It is interesting watching some Obama supports pivot, now saying it isn't enogh that she win Tuesday, she must win big.

Also, looks like some of the dismissive comments on this blog discounting the Canadian NAFTA controversy were wrong. This story may grow over the next hours and days.

bear
she voted for a resolution that was supposed to be a last resort.....to go to war .....he makes a speech against the war making a judgement with no information that was given the senators (WMD"S etc.)
others gave similar speeches who also were not privy to the lies bush was spreading......that voe was almost 6 years ago ......we are in iraq ......the problem is now that we are there ....something has to be done and im sure as hell not comfortable with a guy just out of state office less than 3 years making this country's decisions.......we are voting for president of the US not for senior class president

Finally saw a Huckabee ad this morning. Low key production; just Mike in a darkened studio with a microphone. If voting for warm & fuzzy was enough to win, he would do amazingly well. This guy should bottle & sell his EQ.

Maybe snow flurries mixed w/rain in some parts tonight, but sunny & 50 for election day in N TX.

In Ohio a win is not necessarily a win and Clinton has a long road ahead (thank God)! “The system used by the Democrats means that if either Clinton or Obama wins by a single-digit margin, they’ll gain little in the overall delegate count.” (And, guess who’s ahead?)

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080302/NEWS01/303020032

Nafta: Hill-Bill said here in Westerville, Ohio yesterday she will change it as well (after fighting for it!).

The 3:00 am commercial nonsense (Karl Rove must have given her that idea because they want to run against her): Jay Rockefeller (WV) introduced Obama to us yesterday. He said Obama diligently reads the complete foreign intelligence reports every week and stays on top of any issues that might cause the red phone to ring.

Old versus young voters: I did sit with many younger voters (and we had a ball), but I’d say about 30% of the hundreds showing up yesterday had silver hair and male as well as female (Of course I’m excluded because it’s strawberry blonde…completely all natural ;-).

Wendy, go ahead and use whatever polls you want; I have my own that are obviously different. God, some of you women would vote for Olive Oil (Popeye’s) for President merely because she is a woman.

And, get off this Taylor Marsh thing GORDO. Every site he is mentioned clearly states he is for HRC, so any link (IMO) is worthless. I’ve never opened it after the first time.

"But Golos, a Russian vote monitoring group, says it has received allegations of multiple voting papers, falsified names on electoral registers, the stuffing of ballot boxes and electoral observers and media being barred from polling stations, AP added."

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/03/03/russia.election/index.html#cnnSTCText

Washington Post Fact Checker on Obama/NAFTA fiasco:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/03/obama_parses_his_words.html

"...
The Pinocchio Test

The bottom line is that it has taken four days to drag something approaching the full story out of the Canadian embassy and the Obama campaign. As I suggested before, both Obama and Clinton have exaggerated their opposition to NAFTA in order to win votes in economically depressed Ohio. This is a case where the technical parsing of the truth by the Obama campaign falls well short of the whole truth.
..."

OD:

I am not switching - I think like most people - I am sticking with what Bill Clinton said when he accidently let the truth slip out. If she does not win both OH and TX - she can't be the nominee (at least not without some chicanery that would hurt the Democratic party).

And by win - I mean win. That means Clinton gets the check mark and wins the popular vote in both states. Not some definition that Wolfson comes up with tomorrow morning.

Why does it bother BHO supporter so much that HRC voters are steadfast? Whether a womam or a man, allow people to support their canidate. geez

Karolenna..get off the 'some of you women' ride willya??

The poll numbers are all over the place. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/RCP_PDF/PPP_Texas_Release_030308.pdf

here is there ohio poll http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Ohio_Release_030308.pdf

Karolenna ------------------------

"clearly states he is for HRC, so any link (IMO) is worthless. I’ve never opened it after the first time."

Hiding from the TRUTH about Obama?

"Clinton suggests she'll stay in race after Tuesday"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23449474/

Real Clear Politics reporting that there is a late break in Ohio for HRC.
Texas seems to have tighten in favor of HRC.
There appears to be some volatility in the polls but this is good news for HRC supporters.

Hillary supporters do not bother to try to change the minds of those under the spell of Obama! The only way for that to happen is to have an intervention and then a deprogramming like they used to do with the Moonies.

People see what they want to see in the candidates. What I find worrysome with Obama is that people aren't will to admit that there are inperfections. Because if you admit one, well then you might have to admit there are others and that could lead downa very slippery slope. I have a feeling that republicans will not hesitate to pointout the inpercections in some very disturbing TV ads.

BTW - gender is factored into my decision but it is not my only decision for supporting her. There have been other women candidates I haven't or wouldn't support.

Alpha brought up a good point about this the other day in talking about Obama as a candidate...the idea that African American's can trust that their issues may really be addressed with an African American at the table leading the conversation - that there is a comfort there where they don't have to depend on someone from outside their community to address their issues. He compared it to having a woman at the table with regards to women's issues. Hillary does have a good record on fighting for women's rights...so yes...there is some comfort there. So yes gender is one of many factors playing into my decision. I have many other reasons as well...I've posted them on Craig's list before.

GORDO, if I wanted to know "the truth" about Karl Rove and George Bush I would listen to "Rush Limbaugh". Correct?

"she can't be the nominee (at least not without some chicanery that would hurt the Democratic party)."

The magic words. Now after tomorrow we will see what happens...whether the Clinton's choose to go for glory (albeit negative history-making) or for the Democratic party?

And, I believe I can say it on here: They are pimping Chelsea, but I must say her daughter's voice is much more pleasant than her own.

Compare the polls taken on Feb. 25th

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Texas_Release_022608.pdf

Feb. 25th ohio
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Ohio_Release_022508.pdf
Today
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Ohio_Release_030308.pdf

You can't call it quits with those numbers. With Pa right around the corner

The public policy poll is very interesting...as I noted last week...I thought the Monday polls would be interesting in light of Obama's NAFTA issues...looks like Ohioans do have their doubts now.

I'm interested to see what the PA polls will start shaping up to look like over the next few days after Hillary wins Ohio pretty decisively and as Obama continues to try and answer the Canada NAFTA questions with Hillary swipes rather than real answers.

new memo from the Clinton campaign to the media:

Clinton Campaign: "Obama Must Win All States on March 4"

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/030308J.shtml

"And, I believe I can say it on here: They are pimping Chelsea, but I must say her daughter's voice is much more pleasant than her own."

Disgusting.

Patsi, Do I get suspended for two weeks?

If nothing else comes out of this election, no matter who wins, Hilliary Rodham Clinton’s "aura of inevitability" sure kicked her in that large posterior!

Patsi, Do I get suspended for two weeks?

If nothing else comes out of this election, no matter who wins, Hilliary Rodham Clinton’s "aura of inevitability" sure kicked her in that large posterior!

Patsi, Do I get suspended for two weeks?

If nothing else comes out of this election, no matter who wins, Hilliary Rodham Clinton’s "aura of inevitability" sure kicked her in that large posterior!

Karolenna ------------------------

"she can't be the nominee (at least not without some chicanery that would hurt the Democratic party)."

Notice how the Clinton campaign is finally getting tough with this fraud - Obama. Should have done it a long time ago. Hillary ought to tell Big Name Dems trying to push her out of the race to go to ****. It's time to take Obama down. If she does not, the Repubs will.

I checking in and once again, the BHO supporters are really mean spirited. What does that say about you all?

Really crappy, all of the name calling. "Shrew, large posteriors" You are showing your true colors.

If will be fun watching the Press spin the results.

Rezko Trial: Obama May Be Witness

Chicago Lawyers Say Sen. Barack Obama Could Be Called to Testify in the Rezko Trial

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/

Bri... oh nevermind... not worth it..

misogyny is also practiced by women... amazing.. just amazing..

bri..true..doesnt make it right.. or palatable.. i wish both sides would stop this crap...

on the lighter side ... oh yeah..that surge sure is working...

crooks and liars.. top post..

http://www.crooksandliars.com/

NAFTA-gate Busted!

Obama on TV lying about NAFTA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvCEFmKAoB4

I don't understand the need to accuse a candidate of "pimping" children, or referring to "large posteriors." It's such a lowbrow approach. And I will say this again, if women threw out comments on Obama's physical characteristics, or racially charged comments the way some do gender based snot, they'd be arrested.

This campaign has been an eye opener. God help you, if you have daughters or granddaughters. You might start questioning what sort of society they'll grow up in.

I think many black supporters of Obama withheld their support of Obama - until he proved himself to be a viable candidate for the general election. They did not blindly throw their support behind the black candidate right away on the basis of skin color. Hillary started out with a huge block of female support that Obama has begun to chip away at.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/17/poll.blacks.democrats/

Patsi

The right wingers used to call the dems "haters." I was always shocked by that, but some so-called democrats really make me wonder? Mabye we are dealing with misanthrops? Whatever happened to peace and love?

Blondie:

We are in a knock-down-drag-out fight for the nomination. As long as the candidates and their supporters stay away from low blows - and the loser's supporters don't go voting for McCain out of anger or resentment - the eventual nominee should be that much stronger for the general.

It is a tough world out there.

Peace & Love was a myth, it really was Drugs & Sex.

Warren,

I agree with your last post. I think that is what many Clinton supporters are finding unsettling. They knew that if it took to long they would be in trouble, yet they didn't hurry to win...

Blue,

With regards to your 1PM post, I saw Huckabee at the stockyards on Friday. I think he's a genuinely good person. I can never get past the Creationism thing but he is willing to agree to disagree and then talk about something more relevant to our lives. If McCain had his personality and charm, the race would be a non issue.

Patsi, if you ever watch Hugh Heffner and the Girls Next Door, you will see that their isn't an anorexic in sight. Were Hillary and Obama both women, people would overwhelmingly reject the bony ass...

In times of adversity ( & this barely qualifies) a person's real character comes out....we are just seeing what some people are really like. Most likely in "real" life we would not be associated with the likes of what we have seen here.

Sad but true.

Bear, Did you just call Obama the bony ass? Wow!

Doom:

You need to go smoke or drink something - lighten up buddy. And if you don't get down like that...go for a jog.

Even if Hillary loses the nomination - she will continue to be a significant force in US politics.

"Now if it were the other way around, would you all be yelling the fix is in?"

No Bear, I would be saying that if you want to register to vote you contact the Registrar of Voters, not an on line place that says it is registering you.

Bowmanc...I guess war and hate are myths, too. : )

I have even more upsetting news...The Humane Society is reporting a increase in the number of abandoned pets per the mortgage crisis and economic downturn.

warren.. I agree..and say what you will about hillary..she is a democrat through and through.. ya cant be that kind of policy wonk and not be steadfast...

I have to run...I hope the low blows stop and I do not know how to prevent the revenge voting in November. I will the support the dem nomination.

I wonder if I can afford another pet...really bothers me about the abandoned animals.

The whisper is that the Obama camp expects to gain 12 delegates more that HRC tomorrow night .
The delegate distribution from tomorrow night:
Clinton:- 179 delegates
Obama:- 191delegates
Look for increasing calls for HRC exit from Wednesday.

Race Man

How Barack Obama played the race card and blamed Hillary Clinton

"After several weeks of swooning, news reports are finally being filed about the gap between Senator Barack Obama's promises of a pure, soul-cleansing "new" politics and the calculated, deeply dishonest conduct of his actually-existing campaign."

(Dems should not tolerate this from Obama. Reward him for playing the race card?)

http://www.tnr.com/story.html?id=aa0cd21b-0ff2-4329-88a1-69c6c268b304

Blondie:

Maybe if Hillary drops out of the race - she can get a dog! Although she strikes me as a type that would only adopt a thorough bred.

Anyways - she should get one even if she stays in - it would help with the perception that she is a political robot (like GORDO).

JK G-man...

Patsi:
"don't understand the need to accuse a candidate of "pimping" children, or referring to "large posteriors." It's such a lowbrow approach"

Patsi, to me it is just typical left wingnut slash and burn politics. Yes it is destructive but it always has been so even when directed toward the Republicans. I imagine there are a number of Republicans saying "welcome to the club".
The amusing thing about it is that Obama has run as a new style candidate,*shrug*, he also called himself post racial but I just see the same old stuff.

A bit disapointing for me, I had hoped for better.

BTW if you believe that this country is ready to elect a woman just look at the poll numbers by gender.

Jack

"the bony ass..."

Bear! Are you talking in code again!!??

(just kidding...)

"BTW if you believe that this country is ready to elect a woman just look at the poll numbers by gender."

No....I agree, Jack....I don't see it happening in my lifetime anyway. Better Bush than babe, I guess...

Jamie,

I did the form online but had to mail it to my local registrar. I heard from them that my application was incomplete. It wasn't. I have emailed, faxed and personally delivered the proof as such and these mensas still have no clue what happened to my registration...

GORDO, Bellevue just called, your overdue from your weekend furlough...if you don't return soon, the staff said John Hinkley Jr. might start acting out again...

The funniest campaign event of the year would be if you could get Mike Huckabee to join Spinal Tap on stage with his bass...and jam out Big Bottom so that Hillary could appear to give a stump speech... That would be funnier than her SNL appearence...

Funny how no one is complaining that SNL is biased against Obama though...Armisen plays him like he is a retarded monkey who can only speak in halting phrases...they should make Daryl Hammond lose 100 pounds to do that impression as well...

Question for Criag

Hi Craig-

How do you assess Florida's Republican Governor's willingness to redo the Dem Primary?

In your opinion, is he sincere? What is his motive?

Bear --------------------------

Beginning to have doubts about Saint Barack? Does it make you nervous? Finding it difficult to defend him? - NAFTA, REZKO, BRZEZINSKI CLAN, LARRY SINCLAIR, etc.

Happy Birthday to Jamie !!!!!!!!

I just wonder if any of us has taken a good look in a mirror lately? we're all more or less the same age (well..cept for corey..he's a puppy).. I dare say there are parts of our (ok..mine anyway) bodies that are either spreading or heading south (friggin gravity!) ...

reminds me of the day I ran into an old high school friend.. i thought "omg..what happened to HIM???".. then I went home and looked in the mirror and realized he was sayin the same thing about me!

No GORDO,

Not when you are proving to be nothing more than a Rush Limbaugh water carrier.

NAFTA/Canada...BS
Sinclair...BS
Brzynski may be a Russia hating pol, but he may prove to be more prescient than the Arab hating wing of our govt.
Rezko, looks shady on the surface. I want to hear more to make an informed decision. Do we have any idea how much he gave the Clinton's in the 90's? Any other candidate for that matter?

I'm sure if Rezko was chinese, or Tibetan monks, you would have less problems right? lol

But stop the bashing of both candidates since we could end up losing the elections due to bad blood being drawn with the constant bashing of each others candidates.
Posted by: anon-paranoid | March 3, 2008 9:02 AM

True, if this blog is any measure, the Dems are toast. I strongly believe that, regardless of which of these candidates garners the nomination, an attempt should be made for a unity team running in the general election. I think this is the best way to guarantee people coalescing around the democratic team since the adversaries become friends. The public wants this sort of union.

Jan:

My 2 cents on Gov. Crist's willingness to have a do-over in FL. The GOP wants the Democratic fight for the nomination to continue as long as possible. This way we keep fighting amongst one another - and more and more supporters are getting a bad taste in their mouths for the OTHER Dem. candidate.

Plus, as someone pointed out on Sunday - the dueling "red phone" ads are great for McCain - as he can say I have experience and judgment and have dealt with many "red phone" moments throughout my life and political career.

Keep on fighting Dems - and you are carrying the Republicans' water...

well.... I see the same old arguments are getting made over and over..... why bother....

tylenol.... I know what you mean.... I had to get in a bathing suit this afternoon.... oh well.... f**k it.... the hot tub was worth it!

going to see No Country For Old Men tonight.....

Jamie..... my good friend.... HAPPY, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Plouffe: It's still over

In a statement emailed to reporters, and reiterated on a conference call just now, Obama's campaign Manager, David Plouffe, says:

It is clear that narrow popular vote wins in Texas and Ohio will do very little to improve their nearly impossible path to the nomination. If they do not win Texas and Ohio by healthy double digit margins – and they led by healthy double digit margins as recently as two weeks ago - they will be facing almost impossible odds to reverse the delegate math.

"They were sitting on enormous leads as recently as two weeks ago," he said on the call, dismissing the notion of a Clinton "comeback."

"They keep moving the goal posts, but at some point you run out of field," he said.

His full memo after the jump.

I'm off to an Obama canvassing event just this minute but just watched on television the Canadian Parliament in a complete uproar about the Clinton lies and how this one person in Parliament is trying to sway the US election by lying about this thing that Obama was to have said about NAFTA. But, you Clinton people just believe all this sh*t you want. She is one broad who will do "anything" to try to win. Too bad you just watch what suits you; otherwise you’d learn the truth.

Say anything you want about me. I'm sure a new thread will be up and going when I next turn in.

I really don't understand why Floridian delegates should NOT be seated. Michigan is more of a problem because they had only Hillary's name on the ballot there. But as I understand it, all the candidates at the time were on the Florida ballot, so why dump them? Just to protect one candidate?

Women have been voting for men for almost 90 years. It's hardly misandry to want one woman per century.

Say anything you want about me. I'm sure a new thread will be up and going when I next turn in.
--Karolenna

You can always come back and read this thread, to see what people are saying about you!!!

ROTFLMAO!!

So...how does one change the name that is seen when you post? With all the Husseins here , I wanted to join the bandwagon. But , I don't know how to change my display name. A little help , please?

Bear --------------------

The Repub Attack/Smear machine would hardly know where to begin on Obama - there is so much to work with! It does not have to be true.

here's the whole thing.. explained well

http://www.thestar.com/News/USElection/article/308306

. As long as the candidates and their supporters stay away from low blows - and the loser's supporters don't go voting for McCain out of anger or resentment - the eventual nominee should be that much stronger for the general.

Posted by: warren | March 3, 2008 2:50 PM

That's a big "if". I have normally gone along with party nominees, for the health of the "party", but this nomination process has soured me on the party, on the process, on everything. I think the MSM, and some folks here as well,
don't really understand the level of SPLIT we are facing. Two normally disenfranchised constituencies are so close to seeing their hopes come true, and when one loses, it is going to be a VERY powerful blow, perhaps even a knockout punch. This is why I believe the UNITY "dream team" is the only way to keep people united. At this point I don't care which one is which, but my hope is that Barack and Hillary will be running mates.

Vivian wrote: "The whisper is that the Obama camp expects to gain 12 delegates more that HRC tomorrow night ."

Given "Obama's Fuzzy Math" I think I'll wait for the hard count.

http://slate.com/blogs/blogs/trailhead/archive/2008/02/29/obama-s-fuzzy-math.aspx

BTW - missed you EuroT - glad you're back!

As far as I'm concerned this whole NAFTA business is just a tempest in a teapot, but so was the brouhaha about the Clinton surrogate quite a while back and we couldn't get the Obama people to shut up.

Surrogates say totally dumb things without thinking or checking with the candidates. Usually the best way to handle it is to say, yes they said a really dumb totally unauthorized thing and that is not the campaign's position. Then shut up. Now if the candidates would agree to a DMZ on this stuff and go back to the issues, it would be a truly good thing.

Warren,

What red phone moments does McCain have? He couldn't even defend himself against unfounded charges from a cowardly draft dodger. If he couldn't even protect himself and his family from members of his own party, what will he do for us in the face of the enemy?

At 3 AM, All I see McCain doing is pacing the floor trying to say "I'm not a liberal god dammit"

As for what normal folks do at 3 AM...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UO3PAQodYg

So...how does one change the name that is seen when you post? With all the Husseins here , I wanted to join the bandwagon. But , I don't know how to change my display name. A little help , please?

Posted by: Corey | March 3, 2008 4:07 PM

Corey, they don't register TypeKey... They manually enter the nicknames. Anyway Corey, leave your name the way it is... it's nice... or make it Corey Mitchell... it also has a nice ring to it!

:-)

Thanks for the welcome back Wendy... I've gotten a couple emails from friends in here already saying pretty much the same thing. The comic book convention was interesting. Mauro did a LOT of original draws. there was also a DVD/CD convention in the next section of the facility and next to them were the weird GOTH people! But we had a very good time, I met this actor, It's a weird story but I said to him ... "hey you're American, what's your name?" He replies "Matt". And I go "cool, nice to meet you" or something like that. I meanwhile discuss prices for Mauro's books and draws and suddenly I ask Matt "So Matt, you're also an artist?" and he says "no I'm an actor." I reply "oh, I got many actor friends." Then a while later I ask what his last name is, and he says "armstrong".. and I am like "cool, I like to know people's names" and Mauro's eyes get really big and he says "he's one of the actors on HEROES.", and I am thinking this scrawny little guy plays a superhero on telly? I am sure he wasn't too thrilled that I didn't know him. He was there to sign authographs and get photos with fans... problem is, there were not many fans of the show in attendance. WORST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN TO AN ACTOR.

This was so O/T... sorry

I am off to bed... Exhausting day and I'm on a new eating plan which is also tiring me. Talk to you all soon.

Many hugs to go around!

ET

The author tells how it came to be she discovered plagiarism in Timothy Goeglein's columns and exposed him. Just a few days ago this top Bush aide resigned in disgrace.

http://www.slate.com/id/2185657/

These Clinton ads are going to turn off voters, just like the negative ads they ran in Wisconsin.

From the Canada memo:

"As Obama continues to court the economic populist vote, particularly in upcoming contests like Ohio, we are likely to see a continuation of some of the messaging that hasn't played in Canada's favour, but this should continue to be viewed in the context in which it is delivered."

and

"much of the rhetoric that may be perceived to be protectionist is more reflective of political maneuvering than policy"

Yes - the Canadian government is now coming out and trying to back pedal out of this. Remember this is the same Canadian government that last week said emphatically that the conversation never happened. Well now they're saying the conversation happened but that they somehow misrepresented what was said...

[shakes her head]

Hope Obama doesn't loose his cookies from all the spin.

Corey,

Click on "comment anonymously" Type in any name you want. Be sure not to put a check in Remember personal info unless you want to stay with that name

You know, what will happen is the Democratic smear machine starts running these ads over the fall...

"Of the candidates now running for President...only one has ever surrendered in the face of the enemy. Do we really want this person who has been in Washington too long, to lead the fight to clean up the politics of Washington? He has lobbyists running his campaign now...hasn't he already surrendered his presidency to the Washington Fatcats and insiders"

Vote Clinton or Vote Obama on November 4th...

Like this?

It works! LOL!

Just posting so I can use my new middle name....

and remember, the current Canadian government is just un-armed republicans...

We could get into some serious trouble with all these alibis (like our real names are Lardass Liberal or pogo!)

isn't this fun Corey?

Now I can post and honor one of my favorite basketball players of all time! LOL!

They keep spinning this 3:00 a.m. thing as if it is "fear mongering". How parochial can you get?

3:00 a.m. in DC is midnight in California (forest fires/ earthquakes ... hello). It's 11:00 a.m. in Europe (all sorts of crud possible in Kosovo, Armenia, Turkey blah blah ... not to mention natural disasters). It's 7:00 p.m. in asia and the Japanese prime ministers is calling because of a major earthquake and tsunami warning or just an economic treaty.

Like it or not the White House is a 24 hour place. They don't usually wake the President unless it is really important, but at 3:00 a.m. there is a good chance she might still be working.

Yes, this can get dangerous...

More Flag Officers Endorse Clinton

"Are members of the U.S. military panicking at the prospect of Commander in Chief Barack Obama? It seems so. I’ve been panicking; I can only imagine how true military experts feel about the prospect."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/

Corey,

How can Kareem "I quit when I'm not the man" Abdul Jablunt be your favorite player?

Hollow Judgment---empty decision making--JOE WILSON RIPS OBAMA

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-wilson/obamas-hollow-judgment_b_89441.html

Signing off Taylor Marsh's website briefly.

There's a Shakespeare Festival in town and I must go root for Iago.

Between Joe Wilson and Paul Krugman, it is obvious that the Clinton's have started the scorched earth campaign.

Hillary will not vacate the race because she will continue on to raise $500 million for her 2012 campaign. Hopefully she won't fuck that one up this badly either.

Where can we set up the pool for whether or not McCain lasts his entire term?

Oh, God, it's just 13 hours until polls open and I CANNOT MAKE UP MY MIND!
Please, God...send me a divine sign and tell me who is better to serve us?

I wasn't and will never be a Larry Bird fan. Yeah , he could play, but I wasn't a fan of his. The only time in my life I ever rooted for Michigan St. was when Magic beat Larry in the NCAA finals in 1979. And then Magic went to L.A. My most vivid memory is Kareem's sky hook in the Boston Garden in 1985 to seal the Lakers championship. Kareen has more recently been seen in the "Yes We Can" video , but I digress.

I am NOT saying Larry Sinclair is telling the truth, but this is what he doing:

"Larry Sinclair’s Letter to Sen. Obama & David Axelrod

Larry Sinclair Edges Closer to Mainstream Media - he may be soon asked to tell his story to Cunningham’s large “Live On Sunday Night” radio audience.

While the U.S. mainstream media has been slow to cover Sinclair’s allegations to date, the Canadian mainstream media is taking note. Sinclair is scheduled to record an appearance on the the popular “The Standard” interview program on Wednesday, which airs on TV stations throughout Canada."

http://bigheaddc.com/category/larry-sinclair/

It's too bad I'm not running fro President. I could throw that whole 3 a.m. back in people's faces. I mean , I work 3rd shift. I'm always awake at 3 a.m.!

http://images.politico.com/global/080303_edtoon3-4_336.jpg

Torture is...watching Hardball when Matthews is off his meds.

Survey USA - another one of those more ACCURATE polls

"Clinton Ohio Defense Appears To Hold at Goal Line; Turns Back Obama Charge"

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=96160e3e-e0bc-44cb-8273-28a16edbf219

I expect a very good Tuesday for Senator Clinton. No matter what the results, I urge her to keep up the fight through the convention.

Corey Abdul Jabbar,
Who cares if you're awake at 3am? Hell, I slept through half my cabinet meetings and they named a friggin' airport after me!

While not a supporter of Senator Obama, I wish people would stop discussion of the Sinclair so-called story. Pure tabloid garbage.
We have enough substantive things to discuss like health care, etc..

Ditto that, Oregon. Kerry and Hart and these a-holes who are saying, "just give it up -- it's inevitable" remind me of that old "joke" boys in my high school used to get a big yuk out of: "When rape is inevitable relax and enjoy it."

Patsi..I never could stand Gary Hart..always thought and thinks he is a little bit smarter than anyone else.
Kerry has been a big disappointment. He blew an election that Harrold Stassen could have won. I sent him back my John Kerry button. I'm also going to return that boring book he and Teresa wrote.
I think some of these priveleged boys have difficulty with a strong woman like Hillary.

For those who are interested, David Kirby (wrote the book Evidence of Harm about the thimerosal-autism connection) will be on Imus tomorrow. He's scheduled for 6:29 EST. I'm sure he's been asked to appear because of the recent decision in vaccine court in favor of the parents of a little girl whose regressive autism was caused by the thimerosal (mercury-based preservative) in her vaccines.

Gordo... i'm a fairly astute canadian.. and until now I'd never heard of "the standard"... now I know why.. it's on a basic (and i mean really basic) rogers cable channel that only airs in the western half of canada...

" Gary Hart"

Aside from the fact that Gary spent most of his time during the MCGovern campaign trying to build himself up, he is one arrogant cat. Ran into him at a lot of Colorado political events and his pandering for women was obvious. Unless he was hustling them, of course, then he got serious. Now he's willing to nod and tsk-tsk when people talk about Bill Cinton being a womanizer.

This 'he's a Muslim' thing is pathetic. First, it's pathetic because there's absolutely no religious test for any public position in our country. Second, a person's religion, unless the individual wants to reveal it voluntarily, is a matter of absolute privacy. Third, nothing good has ever resulted from 'my religion is better than yours' exchanges.

Now, on Hardball, Matthews has faulted Clinton for not shouting out, "He's a Christian, he's a Christian, I have absolutely no doubt that he's a Christian." What an absurdity, both in practical terms, how can anybody be certain of another's religious heart, and in constitutional terms, why should anybody carry on this sort of patter about a topic of total constitutional insignificance.

All of this comes together to show the destructive role the press has played in this campaign--what an incredible bunch of loutish shills.

OD,
For the record, I do not think I am a little smarter than anyone else. But it's pretty clear that I'm WAY smarter than the lunch-bucket crowd that Hillary appeals to.

GET-R-DONE!

I understand , Ron. And eventhough you've been dead for some time now , you probably still get a lot of write-in votes each election year.

Pardon me.. not only is it only seen in western canada..it's only seen in south-western BC (ie. Vancouver market)... so much for his big canadian debut...

"But it's pretty clear that I'm WAY smarter than the lunch-bucket crowd that Hillary appeals to."

B'rye -- hmm...don't think any of us would be stupid enough to taunt the press to discover who we were screwing while in a political campaign....

stands up and appauds Flatus.. i just saw that exchange.. matthews is such a maroon..

Do people still watch Chris Matthews?

Where can you find the total # of households watching the shows like Hardball.

I have seen in print before that their audiences a generally tiny, particularly creatures like Tucker Carlson.

I do know that these shows are cheap to produce and therefore, can make money with a tiny audience.

Hey guys,

I wouldn't be so confident of Hillary winning Ohio. We have a ton of early voting from the urban centers of Ohio and the weather is going to be God awful. Any downturn in Clinton's vote will be devastating to her chances.

And of course, Obama is going to win the most delegates for the night, keeping us on the winning track.

Once that happens, the calls for her to withdraw will get HOT!

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez threatened to join the rebels in a war to overthrow hard-line Colombian President Alvaro Uribe.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080303/FOREIGN/933500764/1001

Isn't Chavez one of the dictators Obama wants to hold hands with. Hugo, I'm just like you, we are one.

Just remember Obama Feb. 21, 2008. ‘if we think that meeting with the president is a privilege that has to be earned, I think that reinforces the sense that we stand above the rest of the world at this point in time.’

" We have a ton of early voting from the urban centers of Ohio and the weather is going to be God awful. Any downturn in Clinton's vote will be devastating to her chances. "

So much for you giving a shit about the elderly or disabled or working classes, Alf.

Spoke to a prominent Hispanic leader in Texas who indicated that HRC advantage amongst Hispanics in Texas is around 15%-20%.
If this estimate is accurate then HRC will lose Texas by a margin which will shake her viability going forward.

I love the way reps hold up Chavez and Castro as enemies... "and on the left, ladies and gentlemen, we have Fidel and Hugo.. this is like all the US interference in El Salvador and Guatemala in the 80s.. Reps never learn.. they make friends and deal with tyrants..that's ok as long as they're their tyrants..

Check this out. If you have been following this poll the last few days, the Independent counts are making up the difference. Obama's numbers have been affected by them.

http://www.southernpoliticalreport.com/storylink_33_254.aspx

http://www.southernpoliticalreport.com/downloads/InsiderAdvantage_Majority_Opinion_3-3-20.pdf

"You really gotta wonder what Mark Penn has done to justify receiving over 10 million dollars in compensation. "

Gotta agree with this.

Survey USA" Ohio Those who already have voted favor Hillary 56%-43%

RCP: Hillary edges ahead in Texas

No matter how it really shakes down, I don't see how HRC could win Texas delegates. The caucuses will bring out the Obama Youth while older people go home and take their arthritis pills. Then consider that hispanics votes don't count as much as blacks or anglos anyway....

"Patsi you're being more vile than usual, something happen?"

I just found out that Elvis took dope.

Patsi
If BO ends up winning the popular votes in Texas by 5%or more in addition to his expected win in the delegates then the impact on HRC will be catastrophic .

Already Voted in Texas

Zogby: Hillary 49, Barack 46
Survey USA: Hillary 50, Barack 48

Oregon -- I usually think that older voters tend to be the early birds, but in TN it turned out not to be so. Don't lnow how that affects TX....but I think Texas is history.

Oregon Democrat
That is precisely the worry. The majority of the early votes in Texas were in areas that were expected to be favorable to HRC.
If the Zogby/SurveyUSA polls are accurate then taken together with my source ,this is bad news for HRC

Media Bias, Hillary Clinton and Foreign Policy

"Walter H. Shorenstein has put out a memo on the media bias against Clinton (that I've seen and read), which is damning in its conclusive finality. But nothing registered more intensely with me than this one fact revealed within Shorenstein's memo:

When it comes to foreign policy coverage--perhaps the most important issue in the coming general election--the media monitoring group, Media Tenor, found that there was not a single positive story about Hillary Clinton and foreign policy in the month of February."

http://taylormarsh.com/

B'rye --- it says something that you know what a pessary is, and I didn't.

Hillary is on the move toward victory.

Not that I'm bothered and I think TX has been going good, but what's with the early vote info, early exit polling, etc. I thought there was some sort of agreement with media about early touts.

A spin off of the old 1950's documentary, Victory at Sea.

"VICTORY AT HRC"

George Carlin once said that he wanted to be a OBGYN, but he couldn't find any openings.

"There are 7 OBGYNs in my family"

God, no wonder you play for the other team!

Well the Brown University polls today shows HRC ahead in RI by 7%.
Victories in Ohio & RI will make her live to fight on.

The memo says Obama's anti-NAFTA stance was described as just "political maneuvering,"

Just another one from BHO's endless list of bullet point promises. If you don't like that one, I know there is one in his rug sack of promises I know you'll just love.

Dubya thinks being an OBGYN is 'practicing your luvvvvv for women across this great nation"

Correction----
HRC up in RI by 5%.according to Brown University polss out today.

Warren HRC would also adopt a cat, not a pedigree, either.

Vivian I think if HRC wins at least one state, she will not back out of the race. BHO has not won any big state and not many if any, state by a landslide. The repugs are more understanding with the Huckster staying in the race with absolutely no chance of winning enough delegates. Anything can happen to McCain until their convention. No matter what, BHO will not have enough delegates after tomorrow to win the nomination. It is a long time to Denver and a lot can happen in the interim.

I'd rather predict the weather and it sure is going to be miserable tonight and tomorrow for a lot of the country.

The demand by some Obama supporters that Hillary get out of the race evidences their fear that time will diminish the appeal of Senator O..

1. Eventually, the public will begin to question the Barack platitudes..
2. The Canadian NAFTA story will reveal a lack of candor on the part of Barack..
3. The press will wake from their Obama stupor and will begin to do their job..
4. Obama's flirtation with vouchers will sink him with public education community..
5. The Rezko trial..who knows where that will go if anywhere.

Well folks..Hillary is a fighter..So are her supporters!!!

Brain...the joke about the pessary was funny and I like it when you make me laugh. For any women who has used a diaphragm, those things have a spring around them and can really take-off when...well, women know!

And before you accuse me of being gross, you brought it up!

"Come on Patsi it doesn't work that way, you're not that dense are you?"

Uh, no. Since a lot of my friends are gay or lesbian (only one Obama voter in the bunch, by the way) I didn't think you took a poll of family members.

One of my great delights was when a rabidly homophobic friend from high school called and said he thought a certain monster hit song was the most honest statement of love he ever heard. Of course, what he didn't know was that a lesbian wrote it about her lover, who had just dumped her song publisher husband, who published the song. Guess you could call that a win for everybody....Ah, the new face of country music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qy97pFDLig

The weather in Texas will be just dandy tomorrow.

Unfortunately, Hillary may be toast in Texas.Kinky Friedman (a guy I love) just predicted she'd win because the youth vote won't turn out. I not only think he's wrong, but DEAD wrong.

Patsi

The student paper in Austin endorsed HRC. Caused a riot, but they did it anyway. Kinky also likes JMc.

"The student paper in Austin endorsed HRC. Caused a riot, but they did it anyway."

Blonde! I am STUNNED! Whoa!

Patsi

I am trying to find the endorsement, but here is a link to the UT Austin newspaper opinion on BHO's health plan.

http://media.www.dailytexanonline.com/media/storage/paper410/news/2008/03/03/Opinion/Lets-Talk.Universally-3247336.shtml

Most college students are miles away from their registered polling places and they would have to have all their papers sent in on time to vote tomorrow. I know one that didn't get it accomplished.

Just saying - do not be surprised.

Here a link about the endorsement

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/2/22/144955/435

That weathermaker that is spawning tornadoes around Jackson,MS, and is dumping a foot of snow on St. Louis, MO, is already here and will intensify overnight. We in NW Ohio will have snow on top of ice, just frozen after a thaw has caused varying degrees of flooding. We are being warned of high winds also.
This will keep older people in, away from the polling places . Hardcore politicos will make it there regardless, but possibly this will hurt HRC mor than O.
Yesterday, at the same school that Obama drew 9,500 and they had to turn away another 5,000 eight days ago, Hillary showed for a rally, but the campaign did such a poor job, nobody knew she was coming! Only about a DOZEN people showed and frantic round-up calls insured a few AFSCME workers arrived to cheer Hillary...it was totally EMBARRASSING!

Dexter that sad, I noticed that there is very short notice when the candidates show up, and then when I see the size of Obama crowds, I wonder "don't these people have jobs? "

Dexter...be careful no matter what...we don't have a universal health plan yet. You might want to consider that when voting tomorrow.

"The student paper in Austin endorsed HRC. Caused a riot, but they did it anyway."

Not really surprised. The old Big Eight campuses are very conservative with a lot money kids, especially those in the Greek houses.

Happy Birthday to Jamie (who is forever young), Princess Lee Radziwill (who is 75) and Jean Harlow (who would have been 97) today.

And Happy Birthday to Chastity Bono, who will be 39 tomorrow.

"I wonder "don't these people have jobs? "

No.

Benjaminblue --- You just had to mention that the little baby blond in her parents arms on the Sonny & Cher show will be 39 tomorrow? It is people like you who keep making my blissful self delusion difficult. :)

correction\: big 8 + Southwestern = Big 12, same demo

RE: Ohio vote....what's the weather in Ohio? My Cincinnati daughter is waiting until tomorrow....

New episode on In Treatment tonight...hubby is home...dog is happy....have a good night.

"Not really surprised. The old Big Eight campuses are very conservative with a lot money kids, especially those in the Greek houses."

Ah, the elitists....I thought that trailer trash supported Hillary and the Chardonnay drinkers were Obamanians....

Can anyone confirm that Florida delegates will be seated in this proportion:
HRC: 107 delegates
BO: 67 delegates
JE: 13 delegates

Normally, I do not copy/paste, but this was just too good to pass up. This is on Obama's judgment. It is written by Joe Wilson, a former ambassador whose wife was outed in the Scooter Libby trial ect.

Quote:

On Iran and the question of designating the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization, the junior senator from Illinois was not quite so clever at avoiding taking a position. He first co-sponsored the "Counter-Proliferation Act of 2007," which contained explicit language identifying the Iranian Revolutionary Guards as a terrorist organization. He subsequently claimed to oppose the Kyl-Lieberman sense of the Senate resolution proposing the same thing. Obama's accountability problem here is that he didn't show up for the vote on that resolution -- a vote that would have put him on record. Then he declined to sign on to a letter put forward by Senator Clinton making explicit that the resolution could not be used as authority to take military action. All we have is Obama's rhetoric juxtaposed with his co-sponsorship of a piece of legislation that proposed what he says he opposed.

Obama's gyrations on Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran are not the actions of one imbued with superior intuitive judgment, but rather the machinations of a political opportunist looking to avoid having his fingerprints on any issue that might be controversial, and require real judgment, while preserving his freedom to bludgeon his adversary for actually taking positions as elected office demands. It is hard to discern whether Senator Obama is a man of principle, but it is clear that he is not a man of substance. And that judgment, based on his hollow record, is inescapable.

To read in entirety:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-wilson/obamas-hollow-judgment_b_89441.html

Joe S. defended HRC today on Hardball better than most of her regular surrogates. He actually sounded like he believed what he was saying (instead of toeing the party line).

Jan said
"This is on Obama's judgment."

with fingers stuck in ears.
nya nya nya nya nya, I don't want to hear.

Hey Viv,

They are going to probably have a do over in Florida. Gov. Crist talked about it today. That means Barack will actually campaign in the state. You can throw those projections out the window.

Obama Maniac-

God help this country with people like you in it voting. This is why people should have to pass a constitution test prior to voting because people like you are idiots.

Use logic and reasoning to respond, not childlike behavior.

You give Obama supporters a bad rep.

The Candian Embassy says:

"In the recent report produced by the Consulate General in Chicago, there was no intention to convey, in any way, that Senator Obama and his campaign team were taking a different position in public from views expressed in private, including about NAFTA. We deeply regret any inference that may have been drawn to that effect."

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/03/canadian-offici.html?csp=34

I don't regret any inferences that may have been drawn on this blog - I get its all politics. No one said this was going to be easy...

"Use logic and reasoning to respond, not childlike behavior"

pppppppttttttttt

The problem with Obama on this Canada/Nafta issue is that he earlier denied that any members of his campaign engaged in a meeting concerning this matter. Now, the public finds out that it is not true.

Plus, have you seen the exerpts from the memo published by the AP? These exerpts suggest just the opposite; that is, that the Obama chief economic strategist did reassure the Canadians that this is all rhetoric and that Obama is not sincere on his current position on Nafta.

This is the problem that I have always had with Obama. He says what people want to hear. Almost all politicians do this. However, he has based his campaign on a new type of politics. He certainly does not seem like a new type of politician to me.

NAFTA

"When a senoir diplomat meets with someone like Goolsbee, he or she almost always has a note taker with them to record who says what. That unpleasant task fell to Joseph Demora. When the meeting is over, Joseph Demora’s work started. He went back to his desk and wrote up who said what. Once he completed his memo (folks at the U.S. State Department would call this a “cable”) he submitted it to Consul General Rioux. Consul General Rioux reviewed the memo/cable. He would not sign off on it unless it accurately reflected what was said and what was heard.

According to the memo/cable, Goolsbee told the Canadians in Chicago:

that the debate over free trade in the Democratic presidential primary campaign was ”political positioning” and that Obama was not really protectionist.

It was not just the opinion of DeMora. It was the consensus view of Demora and Rioux that Goolsbee made such claims."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/03/barack-what-is-the-meaning-of-is/#more-1698

OD:

"The demand by some Obama supporters that Hillary get out of the race evidences their fear that time will diminish the appeal of Senator O..

[sillyness]

Well folks..Hillary is a fighter..So are her supporters!!!"

I, and most voters, could care less about all the nonsense you rattled off. What does scare me is the last part. Hillary and her supporters are fighters. What I fear is that Hillary has lost on message and her only option is to attack Obama. And instead of Obama reaching out to more supporters and articulating his vision for America - and inspiring more to participate in the process - he will have to waste his time dealing with a bunch of crap that will undoubtedly do neither him nor the Dems any favors for the general election. And this election is too important to lose.

Oh Gawd Jan, you woke up the G man.

LOL

Patsi:

"Not really surprised. The old Big Eight campuses are very conservative with a lot money kids, especially those in the Greek houses."

"Ah, the elitists....I thought that trailer trash supported Hillary and the Chardonnay drinkers were Obamanians...."

The new money is for Obama. Hillary gets the establishment and well-connected types. Kinda like the Bush crowd. No matter how different the politics - dynasties have some similarities.

HRC: "So, I’m just getting warmed up.”

Great!, we have Frank Slade coming to dinner.

ditto Warren

warren ----------------------

Hillary is just getting the TRUTH out about Obama! The Repubs would tell the truth and LIE!

Gordo:

Lose the caps...makes you seem like you are trying too hard.

And don't kid yourself that Hillary is doing anything different than the GOP would. She is doing their job - and McCain - like he always does - will stay above the fray. Instead of surrogates - he has HRC as an attack dog in the lead up to the general election.

Keep up the good work - maybe you can finish the job and become a McCain Democract....

Can robots vote?

Jan:

"On Iran and the question of designating the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization, the junior senator from Illinois was not quite so clever at avoiding taking a position. He first co-sponsored the "Counter-Proliferation Act of 2007," which contained explicit language identifying the Iranian Revolutionary Guards as a terrorist organization."

This was tied to a specific bill - a bill which is vital to national security around the world.

"He subsequently claimed to oppose the Kyl-Lieberman sense of the Senate resolution proposing the same thing. Obama's accountability problem here is that he didn't show up for the vote on that resolution -- a vote that would have put him on record."

This bill was a complete sideshow by the Bush administration - designed solely to rattle the saber against Iran. That bill was complete nonsense - and I have no problem with Obama not taking part. I do have a problem with Hillary voting yes and giving Bush more support to pick a fight with Iran before he leaves office.

"Then he declined to sign on to a letter put forward by Senator Clinton making explicit that the resolution could not be used as authority to take military action."

That letter would have no binding authority if Bush seeks to abuse the law Clinton voted for - as he as done several times before. Too little too late. Maybe she should have wrote a letter about the vote to authorize war in Iraq. Although it was pretty late by the time HRC actually started to speak out against the war.

Vivian,

If that poll is correct and HRC is only up by 5% in Rhode Island, that is a huge problem for her. She was 30% ahead of Obama at the start of the primary season in that state. Every major Democrat in the state, except Matt Lynch (atty gen) and Patrick Kennedy, is supporting her. She has overwhelming union support and the Portugese love her. Anything short of 60% is an abject failure for her. RI was the best state for Bill Clinton during his 2 runs, behind only MA and AR.

The new in Texas is better for her in my area. She is winning the yard sign battle handily and most of the people I know who did early voting in Fort Worth were voting for her. Unfortunately none of them will attend the caucus in the evening so they will be diluted slightly by Obama's superior ground game.

Why haven't any of the Cable stations interviewed Joe Wilson (Valerie Plaine's husband) about BHO? See his article in the Huggington Post:

Joseph C. Wilson: Obama's Hollow "Judgment" and Empty Record

Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-wilson/obamas-hollow-judgment_b_89441.html

Barack Obama argues that he deserves the Democratic nomination and Hillary Clinton doesn't because he possesses superior "judgment," as he calls it, on the key issues we face as a nation As definitive proof he offers one speech he made in 2002 during a reelection campaign for an Illinois senate seat in the most liberal district in the state, so liberal that no other position would have been viableWhen he made that speech, Obama was not privy to the briefings by, among others, Secretary of State Colin Powell, in support of the Authorization of Use of Military Force as a diplomatic tool to push the international community to impose intrusive inspections on Saddam Hussein Would Obama have acted differently had he been in Washington or had he had the benefit of the arguments and the intelligence that the administration was offering to the Congress debating that resolution ... Read the rest at HuffingtonPost.com

I am listening to the author of "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" while posting. She is amazed but not surprised about Obama and his supporters. WAKE UP warren - your mind has been "clouded" by Obama's MYSTERIOUS POWERS!

Critic:

We don't have to speculate how Hillary would have voted on the Iraq war. Although we do need to speculate as to her reasons. I don't buy the argument that she trusted W to engage in any sort of productive diplomacy with Saddam Hussein.

But it is all beside the point. Obama can run as a much more credible anti-war candidate against McCain than Hillary can. And in this election - that means a lot of votes.

Gordo:

Clinton has forced you to stick your head in the stand and live in a state of denial of everything that is happening around you.

Don't worry - once you take a good look around - you will realize the Dems and Obama are in a pretty good position for the general.

And Hillary losing is really not the end of the world.

Oh jeez - that Jack Nicholson add is just embarassing...for him and HRC.

Warren wrote: "Hillary and her supporters are fighters."

Yep...Hillary is a fighter. Her supporters are fighters. In honor of that...I'm loaning Hillary this little tune for tomorrow...simply titled: FIGHT ON!

The last two lines are:

Fight on to Victory
Fight On

http://www.jacksonville.com/podcasts/2005/channels/sports/10USC.mp3

And as Warren will tell you...it's past my bedtime so...good night!

warren ---------------------

McGovern = McObama

Dex, I saw several folks on the street interviews in Ohio today. Places I lived in the distant past. Very interesting.

It's interesting to see TX on the national news, too.

Tomorrow, I caucus for the first time. Sounds obscene, doesn't it?

tt

GORDO,

You do realize that McGovern flew B-24's in Europe during WWII? He safely guided his crew over 35 bombing runs over Nazi Germany. If there was ever a man to be qualified to be against war it was him. To be compared to him by a draft dodging coward like you is nothing but a compliment. Even Karl Rove would mock you for your efforts.

"Can robots vote?"

Obviously they can, Warren.

"Unfortunately none of them will attend the caucus in the evening so they will be diluted slightly by Obama's superior ground game."

The Thug Factor.

warren ------------------------

Yes, I know about McGovern's WWII service. That is not the issue. How many states did he win? Obama is on thin ice and it's starting to crack. That's why you are so sensitive.

Bear:

We have succeeded in confusing Taylor's spy-bot. Look, now it is even confusing Obama with HRC...

"Obama is on thin ice and it's starting to crack. That's why you are so sensitive."

Even if HRC strikes gold tomorrow - let's give her OH, TX, and RI - she will still be 12-3 in the last 15 contests. Also, the best she can hope for is wins of 4-5% - whereas most of the wins in Obama's streak have been blowouts.

warren ------------------------

Sorry. That post was for Bear. He has come unhinged.

Bear -- I agree -- Gordo offends me as well, shooting at McGovern. Although I understand that he thinks anti-war doesn't always work....nor matter what you think.

The South, Kansas et all will be solidly McCain, God help us. Don't kid yourself. Hillary could have won Tennessee. Barack will not. For every glassy-eyed young person dancing at the airport with shaved heads and flowers, I give you the NRA, the Bubba-vote and the "Them A-Rabs 'er comin' to kill us" crowd.

But hey -- it's up to the voters. We had a chance to have a fighter for a presidential candidate, a woman who would start to roll back the under-the-counter changes anti-American Bush hath wrought -- and it appears we'll throw her under the bus for Dr. Feel Good.

Hillary is planing to "destroy" Obama before the Dem convention. Should have gotten tough sooner.

"whereas most of the wins in Obama's streak have been blowouts."

In mostly Repub strongholds.

"Obama is on thin ice and it's starting to crack."

I'm not agreeing that BO is skating on thin ice, just the opposite, I think Hillary has crashed through and is now treading water.
Frankly, i think it's the party that's starting to crack. I hear frustration here and I hear it among many of my democrat friends. This primary season started way to early and our rules allow it to go far too long. I don't know who's to blame, probably it can be spread to many. I'm reading more each day about the FL legislature getting more involved in our business and I know that can't be good.

Hasta Manana.

" This primary season started way to early and our rules allow it to go far too long.'

Agree completely.

I loved the Jack Nicholson ad..

Four friends contacted me today about it. Like me, all four are good, loyal Democrats. We all thougt the ad was great..

Patsi,

How is that a thug factor if people would rather go on vacation than attend the caucus?

GORDO, I don't care how many states McGovern won, I am offended that you feel that you can mock a genuine war hero.

Oh Please...Hillary is a fighter..Don't assume she will crumble..We will stand with to the convention when she will be the Democratic nominee.
Obama's ice is beginning to crack.

Patsi,

If Hillary Clinton is a fighter, she is Mike Tyson, in the Buster Douglas fight. She had a chance to knock out Douglas early in the fight but he couldn't close the deal. Eventually, Douglas got stronger and just knocked him silly to win the fight.

I thought she would have been the nominee this time last year. She has run a poor campaign which leads me to believe she wasn't as strong as she appeared. When you look at the money she spent for a basically uncontested reelection, that was a glaring warning sign as to the potential problem of this campaign...poor management...

She needed to realize earlier that she needed to fight for the nomination, she needed to earn the nomination and her campaign lacked the sense of urgency to do so until the last 3 weeks.

"How is that a thug factor if people would rather go on vacation than attend the caucus?"

Bear -- it was thuggish when those union guys in Nevada tried to browbeat the Latina houseworkers and shout "Kick her out" at Chelsea. Guess those guys underestimated a bunch of middle aged Latinas.

It's obvious that caucuses disenfranchise older, ill and working Americans.

Pat Cadell on H&C does not like Obama's numbers. Would have a lot of trouble in the GE.

GORDO,

I am far from unhinged. You need to remember the story about the pot calling the kettle black...also, refrain from speaking to me in any way. You truly are offensive. If there was a way I could completely ignore your posts, I would certainly do so. I have decided you are a paid operative of someone's campaign...I can't decide if it's McCain, or one of those "Christian" churches that picket soldier funerals as punishments for gays in America.

"GORDO, I am far from unhinged."

ROFL! No shit, Bear. Gordo....either have a dialogue --- an ARGUMENT fer Chrissakes....but don't think for a minute you can out think Bear! Ain't gonna happen.

Bear ------------------------

I admire McGovern, but look at what the Repubs did to him. They can do the same to Obama.

Bear --------------------------------

Calm down. You are getting too serious. I know the truth hurts.

4 and a half hours and I still don't know who to vote for.
I just walked the dogs and the streets are slightly coated with slush, but no big ice buildup , so those who want to vote should have no more trouble than a trip to the drug store would give them. We have a lot of people that work early shifts and my wife told me I should wait until just after 9:00 A.M. and by then everyone will be at work.
As a courtesy to the working people of our city, I'll abandon my plan to be there first in line , as I am retired and I just goof around all day.
I miss the coffee bar at Fred and Lulu's General Store. ( Wal*Mart ran them out of business last Fall) .
The place I went to after that is dominated by evangelical repuggs and I can't stand listening to that stuff .
Our old simpler Wal*Mart had a snack bar and I had this cup that allowed me 10 cent coffee, that I bought in 1994. Now all that is gone ,even...and the one really decent diner charges $1.65 a cup, per cup...no refills , they just mark up another $1.65.
For a coffee guzzler like me who has 7 cups before noon...YIKES !! That's $11.55 for morning coffee!! Not for me!
It could be worse...I could pay $8 to cross the GWB and pay $80 to park my car for a day , if I was a car driver into Manhattan. Gawd only knows what 7 cups of coffee would cost me in Midtown!

Dex, keep thinking Dem. Probably doesn't much matter who we the people vote for given the super delegates.

Dex, for you:

http://manseekingcoffee.wordpress.com/category/location/new-york/manhattan-new-york-location/

Has links.

tt

Cup of Joe price Manhattan:

http://www.chowhound.com/topics/464855

More than a gallon of gas.

tt

Ah, only a few hours until Hillary starts watching the Super Delegates leave in droves. She needed to win states by double digits. She won't. Instead, she will come out of Tuesday's primaries losing even more ground in the delegate count.

First the drip. Then the flow. Then the tide. Then the flood.

Obama 08!

"Then the flood. "

Alf -- You are getting your bible stories wrong...that was Noah...."O" is Joshua.