Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

first?

first?

damn, so good, I had to say it twice

Well... he definitely WAS a law professor.

I don't know Craig, but I actually don't think the criticisms by Rev. Wright against US foreign policy and the response by fanatics were so far off base. Our country has been famous for making shady alliances with bad people. "He may be a dictator, but he's OUR dictator"... I've said it before, saying "god DAMN America" was where he went way too far... For one thing, a Christian does not "damn" people or places. That is "God's" job. And for a church leader to do so, well that raises SERIOUS questions about his qualifications to give sermons or lead a Christian church.

Good blog post though!

Tom

"Actually, he wasn't a law professor, 9/11. He was just a part time instructor. Big difference."

The man taught constitutional law for 10 years at one of the best law schools at the country.

The "big difference" is that - unlike Bush - Obama understands and respects the Constitution.

Does anyone take THIS seriously?

Rove's Compromise for Democrats
By Taegan Goddard | March 28, 2008 9:59 AM | Permalink | Comments (2)

From his new perch as Fox News political pundit, Karl Rove explained how Sen. Barack Obama might deal with the problem of seating delegates from Florida and Michigan at the Democratic convention -- and win the Democratic nomination at the same time.

Rove suggested that by agreeing to seat the delegates according to the results of the "illegal" January primaries -- even if that would give a slight advantage to Sen. Hillary Clinton -- Obama could actually persuade a majority of the remaining superdelegates to back him. It would show Democratic leaders that he's willing to put the party's interests above his own. It would show confidence in his own ability as a leader. And, perhaps most importantly, it would be a gesture that Clinton could not match.

Watching those cuts from The View where Sen. Obama says he would have left the church if Wright hadn't retired was unbelieveable and I mean the man was lying through his teeth unbelievable. He also dodged the whole "mentor" aspect from his books. Basically Wright went under the bus with the typical white grandmother.

This is hardly someone you want to trust. Ambition will always take precedence over love or loyalty.

How can those three women sit there while Tony Blankley utters one oink after another. At least Rachel took him on about Bill being "brilliant" while Hillary was only "smart".

Talk about human beings that should be banished from television.

dangit, Eurotom, i said this my own self on MSNBC at 4pm today -- i'm channeling Karl Rove, HELP!!!!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/03/obamas-clintonesque-word-games.html#comment-59690

The perfect term: mealy-mouthed

hesitant to state facts or opinions simply and directly.
As from timidity or hypocrisy.

You mean as a suggestion Craig? Say, is it possible to watch your punditry from MSNBC online?

ohhhhh craig... channeling Rove? yerrrr in trouble now, buddy!

"For one thing, a Christian does not "damn" people or places. That is "God's" job."

Posted by: EuroTom | March 28, 2008 6:52 PM

ET...I had to chuckle while reading your post at the idea of "God's job," like he's just another working stiff with lousy health care coverage. It was funny.

My guess is that God's more like a typical CEO...with a base salary at least in the seven figures, plus stock options and a bonus plan. And he probably will get a golden-parachute if humans screw things up so much that the whole experiment goes bankrupt.
:)

E_T-
Your post @6:57 could be quite disturbing to Craig....Craig suggest almost exactly the same thing on MSNBC today...even the conclusion of winning by seeming to be the one who will sacrafic for the good of the party. Too funny.....Karl and Craig think alike.

Craig- It sounded much smarter coming from you! : )
~G

My friend and I wondered if they were gonna start singing "G-d Damn America" during the 7th inning stretch at baseball games this year.

Oh LL... it's TRUE. God IS a Republican !! No wonder why I've backslidden. Course the cousin of mine who had a "vision" that a demon was sticking his long pointing finger nail in my ear (I had an earache) and later prayed in the name of Jesus that I be healed, is now a drug addict, mental case, off-balanced lesbian in South Minneapolis. As for the "faith healing", my ear drum "blew" one evening in Church. I had to be brought to the emergency room (still in high school at this point). That pretty well "cured" me of fundamentalist churches.

I should blog this.

Well..technically.. a Christian shouldn't really have to worry about God judging anyone.. if you are a Christian, then there IS no judgment day.. not after the death and resurrection of Christ.. but I digress...

The daughter of a woman I know has an interview with Mc Cann-Erickson Advertising in Manhattan next month. Anybody ever heard of them. They're called Mc Cann Worldgroup.

Well it's funny Gidget because I found the post on CQ !!! I wonder if Mr. Rove was channeling Craig? He probably thought "Oh sh*t, I have to say something intelligent in the next short while, maybe I'll check what other pundits are saying..." ;-)

KARL ROVE... now those are two words that should unite us all to the eventual Democratic nominee.

yep, EuroTom, i think caving to Clinton on Fla/Mich would be an Obama masterstroke. He'd still be well ahead in pledged delegates, he'd dramatically prove bonadfides as a leader/uniter, he'd be robbing HRC of a major talking point -- and i am guessing that a lot of superdelegates would rally to him out of thankfulness for putting an end to this mess.

haven't a clue about finding msnbc video of that segment online, sorry

Craig, do you agree with most commentators that the nomination is CERTAIN for Obama?

...and to follow on Craig's advice, I think Obama should also cede back to Hillary all the caucus states and delegates he won, allow her to be the nominee, and then just quietly step aside. That would simply burnish his reputation as an INCREDIBLE leader, who puts the interests of the party ahead of his own.
Wink-wink.

ET

Most of Craig's appearances are on You Tube. Go here. Or just search for Craig Crawford

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Craig+Crawford&search_sort=video_date_uploaded

"I was a constitutional law professor, which means unlike the current president I actually respect the Constitution," Obama told an audience at a campaign fundraiser.

""Responding to Obama's comments, Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, said, "Senator Obama needs to understand that at this level words matter and he will be scrutinized."

Ronayne pointed that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. The University of Chicago lists him as a senior lecturer on leave."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&type=politics

More stuff on you tube on Pole Expediters

http://www.youtube.com/user/POLExpediters

Former Michigan Governor James Blanchard's take on the voting mess in Michigan and Florida. Of course , he is co-chairman of Hillary's Michigan campaign , so I don't know how many will be in agreement with what he is saying.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080328/NEWS06/80328018#gslPageReturn

Clinton Vows To Stay In Race

http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-32305020080305

Maybe not......but he's doing the old hope-a-dope........

strug my friend. What is a hope-a-dope?

Tom...in case you didn't see it last night, you have to click on this video I posted last night, and watch the whole thing. It's better (or at least more festive and less forboding) than garlic or pentagrams! Gloria rocks!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEDGgXYFFAM

not "a" hope-a-dope.........."the" hope-a-dope.......defensive action roughly comparable to Ali's "rope-a-dope"

Bri-Bri IS Brit-Brit!

Bri-Lie is LiLo!

I can't believe ya did either, LaLi

If Barack and Hillary become the "Dream Team" ticket , they could be called "Billary"!

...or Hirrack..

Dr. Juan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct4sVVqeoUE&feature=related

Bahillorackery

LaL

I liked my contribution to the farewells

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adcPwd7Pf6w

oh hell......I'm going to be Ernest T. Bass, I just know it..........

I guess Obama going on The View was quite brave of him. Watch this video , mainly from the 4:00 minute mark until the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrZSGlNMcUY&feature=related

omg that's funny ! LL

OMG LL, that GO AWAY video was hilarious....

Jamie...I meant to tell you last night but forgot. I absolutely LOVED that video!
Thanks for posting.

I wanna be Thelma Lou.. i've always had a thing for Barney

I get Aunt Bee

The guys may have had guns. She had frying pans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXcmA5Y7y-Q&feature=PlayList&p=7D3D71969C0C3C07&index=0

Jamie, I remember when that weird film came out! I got free tickets to see it. I thought it was bizarre. It sure is FUNNY in this context...

ET...the Estefan video was apparently a classic back in the early 90s, according to the provenance text on YouTube. I don't remember it though. But I love her. And I love it.

Still in It To Win It

"According to those close to her, she is hoping that as spring becomes summer, the potential for finding another skeleton or two in Obama's closet will prove him ultimately unelectable in the fall."

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1725958,00.html

The problem is Black Liberation Theology. It's what the church is based on and Wright has stated this many times.

What about a "theology" which is based in hate. Is that acceptable to anyone?

I got the following from here: http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=8159
Cone, Wright, Trinity UCC and black liberation theology

The acknowledged founder of current black liberation theology is one James H. Cone. Rev. Wright acknowledges Cone as the father of the theology he expressly believes in.

Perhaps the most widely quoted of James Cone's expressions of black liberation theology is this one:

"Black theology cannot accept a view of God which does not represent God as being for oppressed blacks and thus against white oppressors. Living in a world of white oppressors, blacks have no time for a neutral God. The brutalities are too great and the pain too severe, and this means we must know where God is and what God is doing in the revolution. There is no use for a God who loves white oppressors the same as oppressed blacks. We have had too much of white love, the love that tells blacks to turn the other cheek and go the second mile. What we need is the divine love as expressed in black power, which is the power of blacks to destroy their oppressors, here and now, by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject God's love." [A Black Theology of Liberation, p. 70]

But there are many more. And they all are pretty shocking when one considers they undergird what most, until recently, considered to be a mainstream Christian church.

For instance Cone has written this about the hatred of whites and the impossibility of black racism:
"It is important to make a further distinction here among black hatred, black racism, and Black Power. Black hatred is the black man's strong aversion to white society. No black man living in white America can escape it...But the charge of black racism cannot be reconciled with the facts. While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism. Racism, according to Webster, is 'the assumption that psychocultural traits and capacities are determined by biological race and that races differ decisively from one another, which is usually coupled with a belief in the inherent superiority of a particular race and its rights to dominance over others.'

Where are the examples among blacks in which they sought to assert their right to dominance over others because of a belief in black superiority?...Black Power is an affirmation of the humanity of blacks in spite of white racism.

More importantly though, if this church has been the one that "most embodied" James Cone's message, how in the world has Senator Obama remained so blissfully unaware for 23 years?

Despite the speech and the absurd and morally relative comparison between Wright and his "Typical White Person" grandmother - I have to agree that he does believe and his morals have been affected by it.

Go to the site to read it or research further for yourself.

FIND THE TRUTH, BEFORE YOU VOTE FOR A NOMINEE FOR OUR PARTY THAT WILL LOSE.

Alter floating a "Hillary for NY Governor" balloon.

That would be interesting.

...as long as that's a 'bullet' in his pocket.. sure! :)

http://i25.tinypic.com/15dry10.jpg

might not fit the definition exactly

Ty...definitely click that "Mayberry" link upthread if you already haven't. It's totally perverse, and I think you'll appreciate it almost more than anyone...given your apparent Mayberry fandom.

Wow Burrito! Howdja do that?

Me as Barney Fife? ooooh nooooooo

it's magic

I will tomorrow, LL.. i am still without soundcard here.. just havent had time to hike over to puter store and get one.. but I'll check it out from another puter tomorrow..

Can I have dibs on the Helen Crump role?

I have a crush on Craig.

LaLi... would you kindly email that link to me? then I don't have to hunt through posts to find it..

adeste underscore fidalis at yahoo dot ca (not com) ..and I know fidales is misspelled..

thanks! :)

ET...click the link. I think you'll find Barney as frustrated as you are in all his machinations to get rid of the unwanted pest!!! He even tries to counsel young Opie in one sequence, kind of like you have Warren.
I think your perfect for the role!

Ok. I hate to interrupt the frivolity over Mayberry but I had an update to share with you all and I am drinking wine and watching basketball(waiting on those Tigers). You know when I told you about Fonda Dicks the amazing High school basketball player of the 70's, the night we were talking about unusual names? Well, I just found out she married a guy with the last name of Peters so now her name is Fonda Peters. This is a true story, I could not make this up. Thanks for indulging me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2sfelvHAlU

make the best of this situation.

Ok I'm barney then...

What is BHiNYC? Satan?

real life is scary

No...he's Peaches.
Watch the video, ETom! You'll get it then!

hahaha fonda dicks (or peters). i missed that one..

Olivia Newton John married Wayne Newton, divorced him and married Elton John, she'd be Olivia Newton John Newton John :))))

Hey Ty...here's the link again for the video, for you to cut and paste as you please:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4yndU6NqUE

Everyone "knew" Fonda. Fonda Peters ended up getting a divorce everyone was really, I mean really sad and then she met ,and fell in love with, Alex Prix.

You can be Aunt Bee's friend Clara, nanny :)

Burrito

Is that your Cafe Press account? Can we make you rich buying "Spindrool" T-Shirts? If so I can put you on my blog sidebar.

no - I just made it up. But I think it can be done. : )

Durn, I always end up as Luanne Poovy, Gomer's dumb girlfriend. There would be some that would say I was type cast.

Zoey. Cheer up. Luanne Poovy was always totally HOT.
She blew Thelma Lou away.

Another bottle of wine and I will be spinning and drooling. Aha, another use for spindrool.

I'd wear one.....
It's awesome and on the back at the neck I could put a little code symbol for the trail mix ...I'll look into it and see waht is required there may be Tm infringement...but I can alter

EuroTom:

I think Rove is right on what to do with FL. Seat 50% of the delegates based on the Jan. vote.

Clinton gets the advantage in delegates and more importantly +294,772 popular votes.

(Despite the fact she planned a victory party in the State on the night of the primary - which was announced days before the vote. I think that got a lot more votes than Obama's national ad-run. It is not as if that commercial was the first time anyone saw Obama on TV....)

Anyways, the key - is that awarding 50% of the delegates is the same thing the Republicans did. So we can at least take that issue of the table for the general.

(We already have enough explaining to do about the Super D's....Fox will probably give that 21 year-old Super D a morning show).

Burrito...I think, just for nitpick edits, it needs to be clearly the MSNBC logo sted of just the standard MSNBC Peacock.

And maybe a heroic photo of Obama should be the actual focus of the front of the T-Shirt, with the "spindrool" word underneath.

Or if you want to go ironic, the photo of a cynical looking Obama with the ciggie hanging out of this mouth.

Either would work just fine.

Sorry..meant "standard NBC Peacock"

heyyyy HEYYYY...thelma lou was too hot!!

LaL

You need a Cafe Press Account. There is a whole line of clothing in some of the things you make up.

You could start with the Spindrool T-Shirts and craig could gift all the on air staff at MSNBC for Christmas.

Yes. She was SUPER-hot, Tylenol. But all of us guys hanging shiftlessly around Mayberry could never figure out what she saw in Barney. So that made her slightly less hot.

Jamie...If I can figure out a way to get a full-motion Gloria Estefan video onto the front of a T-Shirt...I'm in.

But that technology probably won't exist until I'm long dead.

:)

Warren

I put up that idea several days ago including the Republican reference. Does Rove read the website or are we channeling the Devil?

Craig,

In reference to your post "Obama's Clintonesque Word Games" you
highlight what some seem to miss and that is that Obama IS a slick politician,
as capable of doublespeck and spin as any other candidate for president.
His message that he is the new, postmodern, 21st version of sweaky clean candidate has lost its luster and has begun to sound hollow.
Make no mistake, he wants to win as badly as Hillary and if it's true, as the media constantly insists, that Mrs. Clinton will do anything to win, surely it's obvious Obama will do anything to win the nomination as well, including, slying maneuvering with his posse to make certain there is no revote in Florida and Michigan.

The problem with todays politics is, it has arrived at a time in place where everything is different. The internet has change the world, as we knew it, and it is really very dynamic and interesting to be witness to this phenomenon. Conversely, a lot has been lost in regards to respect and dignity and accountability.

That will be the challenge going forward for any candidate to be able to control the beast.

We are the beast ...it's kind of fun.

nannym:

Obama sounds like he was a good teacher of Constitutional law:

"Those are tremendous ratings, especially for someone who had a day job," Professor Cass Sunstein said. "We wanted him to join the faculty full-time at various different junctures. That's not a trivial fact. . . . If we want to hire someone, the faculty has to think they're tremendous. But he liked political life."

While a state senator, Obama held classes early on Monday and late on Friday during legislative sessions, running right through the school's popular Friday evening wine-and-cheese hour. Obama was so popular, students signed up for his class anyway.

...

"I loved teaching," Obama told the Sun-Times. "But when the opportunity came [to run for U.S. Senate] I took it. I think some of the public speaking skills I developed in the classroom -- stay on your toes; don't make my answers too long -- I'm using on the campaign trail."

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/news/law-students-gave-Obama121807/index.html

Lal

Quite a while back I saw televisions on shirts -- I suppose you could arrange for closed circuit play of videos.

LL..it was the bullet in his pocket.. hehe

LL

You really should put the line forward....it could make you a god-zillionaire. Then you could run for president...

Gordo:

Run back and tell Taylor Marsh that "part-time teacher" vs. "professor" is not quite "sniper fire, duck and get to the base" vs. the videotape.

Talk about a 527!!!

Burrito...before I ever ran for president, I would INSIST on seating the Florida and Michigan delegations. Just to show leadership. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faEEro38pEA

Jamie:

It proves we are just as smart as Karl Rove (and he is a devilsh genius.)

or maybe just to show a bit of democracy

as in - it is a "good thing" to count the vote of the people in this country

Warren,

People who were on the plane with her did tell them to put their flak jackets under their seats because there had been sniper fire. He told them they would be doing a "military" landing. The major part of the meet and greet was moved in doors.

She may have inflated the experience on the ground but it wasn't quite the total sham the press made it out to be.

Certainly it was no worse that Sen. Obama's View appearance that no one in the media bothered to pick apart.

Politicians are politicians. She should have stuck with her real support for her husband while in the WH and her real experiences in the Senate, but that is hindsight.

Sen. Obama shouldn't have lied in his books, but he did.

"One week after Sen. Clinton called for a "second stimulus package" with $30 billion to help states and localities fight foreclosures, Sen. Obama announced a "second $30 billion stimulus package". Response from policy director Neera Tanden: “…When it comes to fixing the economy, we need leadership, not followership.""

ROFL

just thought it was funny.

;-)

sorry i was a little slow there....

Anyone who got W elected twice is damn smart.

(Time for me and Lucy to eat some "Dumpling Man" - which I highly recomend if you ever come to NYC.)

And I'm not the only one:

http://nymag.com/listings/restaurant/dumpling-man/

(pork dumplings seared with monster sauce and peanuts is my drug of choice ; )

Now Wendy

I did make an additional statement that I am spending my $30 million differently. :-)

Barack "Me Too" Obama

They need to have another debate soon so he can steal some new ideas.

As I was walkin' up the stair
I saw a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
Oh how I wish he'd go away

Well if sex is what it take to make a baby, then a bj doesn't cut it.

I am not sure if I know what sex is?

Never even considered the question before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX6WHvxTYHs

What Burrito? BJs aren't baby-making sex? My Catholic Priest always told me that tonsils and ovaries were the same thing! Who knew!

As I said long ago right after the Iowa caucuses, the people who turned out for Obama wouldn't stick around and I was right to an extent. Several did turn out for my county convention until the preference groups were set, then they booked. And as far as party politics are concerned, the Obama supporters are absent.

I had my first county central committee meeting recently and most of the "new Democrat" Obama supporters did not attend. Since I have been on County Central Committee for a while now, I made a point of greeting new members and inviting them to my table. My newbies consisted of 2 Edwards supporters and 3 Clinton supporters. The rest of the committee was mainly the same people it always is because we are the ones that make the party run. This party cannot survive without the base because there will be no fundraisers or other events for the down ticket races. This is definitely something to think about.

Obama Was A Constitutional Law Professor:

At A Recent Fundraiser, Obama Claimed He Was A “Constitutional Law Professor.” “‘I was a constitutional law professor, which means unlike the current president I actually respect the Constitution,’ Obama told an audience at a campaign fundraiser.” (Brendan Farrington, “Obama: Bush Fails To Respect The Constitution,” The Associated Press, 3/30/07)

On The University Of Chicago Law School Website, Obama Is Listed As A “Senior Lecturer In Law (On Leave Of Absence).” (University Of Chicago Law School Website, http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/obama, Accessed 3/30/07)

Obama Made This False Claim In His 2004 Senate Race. “Several direct-mail pieces issued for Obama's primary [Senate] campaign said he was a law professor at the University of Chicago. He is not. He is a senior lecturer (now on leave) at the school. In academia, there is a vast difference between the two titles. Details matter.” (Lynn Sweet, “Obama's Book: What's Real, What's Not” Chicago Sun-Times, 8/8/04)

Okay. Here is the clarification from the University of Chicago as of today. They have said that while a lecturer on staff, he was entitled to be called "professor" but he was not on a tenured track

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/usa/2008/03/professor_obama.html

"My Catholic Priest always told me that tonsils and ovaries were the same thing! Who knew!"

lol @ LL

Part time lecturer is NOT a professor.

Of course, if challenged by the FEC, he could always take the 5th. Or he could obfuscate, as he did on the View--I guess that's his privilege under the 1st.

I wonder if he even has a shingle to hang out. Alas, that's not germane;

But his employment status and position are . He has misstated his position and employment status on numerous occasion. He has deceived us as to his bona fides.

To me, that matters more than Bosnia.

They have said that while a lecturer on staff, he was entitled to be called "professor" but he was not on a tenured track

Revisionist History
He is a senior lecturer (now on leave) at the school. In academia, there is a vast difference between the two titles. Details matter.” (Lynn Sweet, “Obama's Book: What's Real, What's Not” Chicago Sun-Times, 8/8/04)

Point of clarification of whether Obama was a professor at Univ. of Chicago Law School has been provided by them. He was a lecturer, then senior lecturer (which is considered a law professor).

chttp://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.htmllaim

Corey,
Ernest T. Bass was likeable so I beg to differ.

You know...I'm wondering now after all this "Constitutional Law Professor" flap if BO really was ever a "Community Organizer," as he always claims in the front and center portion of his resume.

Has anyone seen those TV ads for the Yellow Pages featuring this affable dude named "Dex", who hangs on a swinging cable from a phone booth, or whatever, and who directs people to whatever service they crave at any given moment? Well, basically, "Dex" is a "community organizer" too, isn't he?. Did BO even do as much community organizing as Dex does day in and day out?

Why isn't "Dex" running for president?

Wendy
He has been copying all of Clinton's plans since the beginning.In the debates he always said"I agree with Hillary.So why get the carbon copy when we can have the original

But , Ernest T. Bass threw rocks.

Corey,
Good point!! I forgot about the rocks. I just always thought Ernest T. was kind cute.

Has it always been like this or is the University of Chicago giving Obama cover? Obama did intend to mislead.

Whatever you call them -- superdelegates or automatic delegates -- they are the backbone of the Democratic party Obama is running to lead. These are the Democrats who will be there in the future no matter what. Obama has made a successful effort to bring in Republican and independent voters to the Democratic primary and caucus contests.

The permanent residents of the Democratic party should be able to feel as at home as these visitors. For now, the Obama forces have succeeded in shining a spotlight on superdelegates and enlarging the Obama "movement" to target them.

Ickes and the Clinton folks are on the defensive because of what Ickes called "all the controversy ginned up by the Obama campaign."

Ickes nailed what happened. Ginned up and ready to go.

Originally published in the Chicago Sun-Times.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lynn-sweet/how-the-obama-team-ginned_b_87472.html

Zoey

Is there any chance the party would consider going to a primary?

I'll play Opey. He had good enough sense to get outta there!!

Hillary's Day at the Fortune Teller
After Bill had spent several days campaigning for her and lost his
temper many times costing her votes and finally escaping from her overly
controlling campaign manager for the evening, Hillary sneaked off to
visit a fortune teller of some local repute.
In a dark and hazy room, peering into a crystal ball, the mystic
delivered grave news.
'There's no easy way to say this, so I'll just be blunt: Prepare
yourself to be a widow. Your husband will die a violent and horrible
death this year just after you lose the election.' Then the soothsayer
looked up and locked eyes with Hillary, who was visibly shaken at this
news.
Hillary stared back at the woman's lined face, then at the single
flickering candle, then down at her shaking hands.
She took a few deep breaths to compose herself.
She simply had to know.
She looked back, deep into the fortune teller's gaze, steadied her
voice, and asked her the big question:
'Will I be acquitted?'

Jamie,
It doesn't look like we would go to a primary because the taxpayers would have to fit the bill. I really don't feel right about asking my neighbors, who are not Democrats, to pay for me to elect my party's nominee.

Opie? Okay , Warren.

Warren...did you see the video? It was pretty funny...:)
And I agree...Opey ultimately makes the right choice!

OOPs I forgot, alos we have an agreement with New Hampshire that we will not have a primary so they can be first.

Obama is a Muslim, Weathernan Black Panther, America hating terrorist. Period. Everything else is a lie.

I think the world needs a community organizer.

The US is not the hegemont we once were - mainly as a result of so-called 2nd and 3rd world nations rising in power.

The US can no longer simply tell everyone what to do (especially after Bush has tarnished our reputation.) But by acting as the community organizer - since we are the ONLY Country that can fulfill this role - we lead the World into the 21st Century.

Obama '08

Si Se Puede!

Dex '08!

Let your fingers do the governing!!!

I wanna be Floyd the Barber.

Another classic Mayberry video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSt6c5-whHY&feature=related

Zoey

Most states put all the parties on the same ballot and if the Oregon mail system or a combination precinct and absentee spread the costs across the whole population.

It just seems so much more democratic to me. Certainly less open to having the system overun the way the Obama folks did.

Hi again Craig,

I wonder if you actually read all these blog comments. If you do, I want to edit
my earlier response. I left out the word century, after 21st. I was typing too fast.

I just watched your appearance on Hardball and you were animated and
spunky as usual, with your witty commentary about the Dream Ticket issue.
I loved your Hillary as the new Dick Cheney line. You pointed out that
Hillary could "work the Hill" and would be better at reaching across the aisle
to Republicans than Obama so she would be a great asset to him if he
picked her for his VP. I also loved your "shotgun wedding" phrase
in describing Clinton choosing Obama as her VP, if she wins. You seem
to be the voice of reason in these pundit debates like when you
hushed Andrea Mitchell's broken record drone today about how all the "fighting" between Obama and Hillary is destroying both of the candidates. You quelled the squabbling when you said that lawyers and senators can always get over bickering during the campaign. By the way, I liked the grey shirt and black jacket you wore on the show. Just to let readers know, anyone who missed Hardball today can go to the MSNBC website and watch it.

Who lifted the rock and allowed Huey to crawl into the open?

Corey...you got the Floyd role if you want it.

BTW...I checked out your blog today. I know we've already talked baseball, and you're a Tigers fan through and through. But how does a KC Chiefs fan end up in western Michigan, and rooting against the Lions?

As a lifelong Chiefs fan, who attended almost every home game between 1966 and 1984, with lots of other visits to Arrowhead sprinkled in between..I'd like to know.

Jamie. You're right. I'm letting go of the rock now...hopefully crushing Huey.

Once more with feeling:

Don't you realize that every time you copy and paste that quote you are repeating a slam against the host of this blog that was said in the heat of the moment.

(You are also "Wrighting" the poster)

Wrighting (verb): using 30-second loop of someone's worst moments in order to attack that person or someone else.

(aka "Swiftboating")

More on lecturers, etc.

Doing a little research, it appears as if the university statutes tells what the academic positions are. Clearly, professors (of any stature) are professors. And lecturers are...lecturers.

http://trustees.uchicago.edu/articles/statutes.pdf

if the obamabots want a glimpse of the future with BoBo as president, please check out my governor and Barry's good buddy Duval Patrick's first year 'performance'......... I voted for Duval in the primary because I didn't think my first choice Gabrielli could win in the general, I want my vote back.

LL:

"Or if you want to go ironic, the photo of a cynical looking Obama with the ciggie hanging out of this mouth."

I would buy that T-shirt.

Warren,

"using 30-second loop of someone's worst moments "

There aren't any other kind.

LL:

"before I ever ran for president, I would INSIST on seating the Florida and Michigan delegations. Just to show leadership. :)"

HRC: "You know, it's clear this election they're having isn't going to count for anything."

Now they should count. Leadership?

Did anybody take Goober?

Warren..that was just a post about a goofy T-shirt idea, sort of poking fun at both candidates as well as the idea of me ever being a god-zillionaire. Didn't have anything serious to do with the campaign. Sorry if it came off that way.

LL , when I was younger I was a L.A. Rams fan. I was a big fan of L.A. teams. Lakers , Dodgers and the Rams. After awhile , I didn't like how the Rams owner was running the team. So , I started following the Chiefs. I still root for the Lakers and Dodgers , but I root for the Pistons and Lakers as well. The Lions? Who cares about them? Although , I do watch them on tv every week , eventhough they suck.

Make that Pistons and Tigers*

Flatus:

So you are more troubled by Obama's "lie" on his Constitutional law bona fides - which most candidates don't even have...

In general election terms, that pales in comparison to HRC's "lie" on her National Security bona fides.

Two complicating factors for Clinton: she is a female candidate and there is a videotape. Very tough against a war hero known for his straight talk.

Corey...that's awesome that the Chiefs could connect with you from so far away. It make me feel even more proud of my Chiefs, who are the hometown team in the place of my birth.

For the record...I've had similar connections with:

The Baltimore Colts (when I was real little)
The Pittsburgh Steelers (as a young adult)

Both way outside my hometown. But both purveyors of excellent professional football. I still even root for the Indy Colts today, even though I know that would be anathema to a true Baltimore fan, given the history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVlu9BkszOk

this was a long time ago, but it seems like yesteraday

LL:

Came off what way? I thought it was a cool idea for a shirt. Or a poster.

You could make millions selling that stuff on college campuses in the Fall!!

Be nice to each other. See you tomorrow afternoon. Caucus registration training in the morning.

Warren...Oh. I thought you thought I was making a polemical, tactical, Obama-v-Clinton campaign point earlier, and reacted thusly. Not so. Fair enough. I'll drop it.

LOL.

Mrs. Manners:

I tend to not tell people what to do. Maybe if they are consistently doing something that should be stopped.

And I hate over apologizing. Too much of that - and you never know when anyone is being sincere anymore.

Jamie,
I like our caucus system and think it could continue to work. I doubt I would be so involved if we had an impersonal primary. Previous to this year participants in the caucus actually went out and got to know the candidates before hand. When someone got up to speak about their candidate you knew they knew what they were talking about.

We just need to fine tool it so it is only the party faithful who selects the nominee. That means a closed caucus where attendees must be registered with the party 6 months to a year in advance. I mean really when you think about it why should independents and Republicans be allowed to participate? They haven't really contributed to the party the rest of the year. They haven't made the committment.

Burrito...this videos you're posting are great.

The most interesting thing about the last one is that Branford Marsalis was the one making the most beautiful music, yet Sting was the headliner. Go figure.

It's funny about Sting and The Police, all those years. Their best instrument was their intellect and the concept and the actual lyrics -- not Sting's voice or any of the instruments played by musicians in the band.

It really hits home when you see Sting standing on a stage next to a Marsalis.

painter:

I think a better response for HRC to the fortune teller is:

"Is there any way we can get rid of him sooner..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwc5YSAc-7g

Yep Jamie I am out of here too. District Convention Credentials committee meeting tomorrow.

Go Tigers!!!

Obama is a big chicken..afraid to have re-votes in Michigan and Florida...

Such is the new politics..Brrrock Brrrock Brrrock

Yep - that was really a great rendition of Roxanne

first time I saw it was tonight...I loved it

Okay folks, I gotta clear out myself. Have eaten up enough bandwidth for one night.
See you all soon. :)

Barack isn't half the man Hillary is.

LL:

I like sharks - and your description did not do them justice.

http://www.sharkology.com/faq.html

later LL

Warren, I don't believe I've ever used the word 'lie' in any of my posts unless in a quote of someone else's intemperate words.

I did not question his constitutional law bona fides. I questioned his using an academic title to which he wasn't entitled, and of leading people to believe that he was a regular member of the academic faculty of the university, which he was not.

None of which has anything to do with the general election.

"None of which has anything to do with the general election"

Warren gets paid by the word to post Obama spindrool. Everything for him is about the general election.

Flatus:

"I don't believe I've ever used the word 'lie' in any of my posts unless in a quote of someone else's intemperate words."

You are right. You did not use the L-word. (I saw Lanny Davis all over the airwaves trying to ban the use of that word - and Cambell tore him to shreds!)

But it is how it would be played for the general election. And I would rather have Obama explaining that - in addition to being in the state legislature and working as a community organizer - he was also moonlighting by teaching the Constitution.

(And when I was in law school - we called all our teachers "Professor" - whether they were part-time or not. And to tell you the truth - some of the best professors were "part time" because they brought their "real-world experience" into the class room.)

Everyone needs to chill a bit - there is no winner yet - so let the chips fall as they will -at this point it is passive involvement.

and it is the weekend!

Penny:

I am doing this pro-bono.

(The ironic thing - is that I actually pay Obama by making contributions. Hah! What a racket!!)

warren ----------------------------

Did you see my 8:16PM post ? Did you read "between the lines"?

From Time Magazine:

Still in It To Win It

"According to those close to her, she is hoping that as spring becomes summer, the potential for finding another skeleton or two in Obama's closet will prove him ultimately unelectable in the fall."

(Is Hillary hoping or knowing? The Clinton campaign has to wait for the best time to drop the "Scandal Bomb(s) on Obama.)

Gordo:

"(Is Hillary hoping or knowing? The Clinton campaign has to wait for the best time to drop the "Scandal Bomb(s) on Obama.)"

Tell whoever sent you that such a bomb would blow up the entire Democratic Party and hand the general election to McCain.

It would also wreck the Clinton Legacy.

And it also is a complete fiction. If the Clintons have any legitimate charges - they should be made now.

(And if the Clinton campaign has one - they better drop it before PA - because they might not get another shot...)

Max will be interested to know - they had an article about Hanooti scrolling on bottom of screen - they mentioned that he had met with CLinton in 1996 and that he had given money to Bush 2000 . Nothing linking Hanooti to Obama...

Julie

Gordo:

Here is a Jan. 18 story about Edwards:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mona-gable/john-edwards-campaigns-in_b_82119.html

"You're going to win, John!" a man shouted out.

Edwards gave a great speech on Jan. 30 and dropped out of the race.

warren --------------------------

That quote is from TIME - I read it to mean that Hillary is waiting for something and knows the nature of the Bomb(s). Better the Clintons use it on Obama and get him out of the race than in the GE by the Repubs. Dems will thank Hillary for saving the Dem Party from certain defeat.

Nobody watches Bill Maher!

I agree Gordo - better to get it out now - so let's see it.

(Just like those tax returns!! Just wait till you see my "bitch spin" about Clinton then. Wait a minute - is it "spin" to say that an "experienced" politician is often "rich" and "lies" to voters? That describes a heck of a lot more people than just Clinton.)

Dan Abrams is much more of an honest broker than Howard Wolfson - and that is who the Clintonites seem to be taking their cues from.

Dan Abrams : short term fame

Bill Maher voted for Bob Dole in 1996 and he voted for Ralph Nader in 2000.

The Obama released their tax returns and the pundits said they were cheap.

The Obama campaign has stopped talking about tax returms.

" such a bomb would blow up the entire Democratic Party and hand the general election to McCain."

This is Obama's world -- don't anyone dare vet him or he'll destroy the party. God help us, quasi-religious fanatics and cultists are destroying the party right now.

haha Bill Maher just called Pat Buchanan a racist!

His supporters call him a racist

it is all in the numbers - that's what makes it so fun - no one can control the madness.

Try as we will : your wit vs. their wit doesn't mean anything. Just filling the air while the contest plays out. Some will be drawn in, most likely the less intelligent ones....

I mean really - you are not going to see the big names in early...do you think? Only bit players play their cards early. If it is a game of strategy, why show your hand?

warren -----------------------

Have to drop "Scandal Bombs" at the correct time - don't want the target to be able to recover. MSM will do everything possible to save Obama and destroy Hillary.

who cares anymore? who calls who a racist? does it make any difference? I mean anyone can call anyone anything, without any evidence. It just doesn't matter anymore. Unless you commit a crime you are pretty much a-ok, in the public eye.

that's the way I see it.

Wow...Bill Maher's an idiot...

"Wow...Bill Maher's an idiot..."

Always has been. Another case of a very ugly man trying to be a hound.

Senator Clinton:

Just read where Senator Patrick Leahy is calling on you to drop out of the Presidential race.

Believe me.

I know something about this.

Here’s my advice:

Don’t listen to people when they tell you not to run anymore.

That’s just political bigotry.

Listen to your own inner citizen First Amendment voice.

This is America.

Just like every other citizen, you have a right to run.

Whenever you like.

For as long as you like.

It’s up to you, Hillary.

Just tell them –

It’s democracy.

Get used to it.

Yours truly,

Ralph Nader

Maybe Bill Maher will finally get a show on network tv. Oh , wait....nevermind.

Point 4 percent that's .4% would be reasonable for someone who has trouble feeding their kids or having medical care for their family....Of course Mr. O upped it in the past couple of years...What a fraud...

Patsi:

No one will be elected President of this country without being vetted. Not with these billion-dollar campaigns and an obsessed media.

If Obama takes down the Clinton campaign - he has been vetted enough for me.

Plus Patsi - there is a difference between being vetted and being smeared.

President Clinton will be visiting Oregon for Saturday events..Saturday in Medford and Monday in Bend. Other stops to be announced...President Clinton is very popular here.Oregon's economy flourished during the Clinton years.

The funniest thing I ever heard Bill Maher say was this:

When John Bobbitt was asked by his doctor if he could forgive his wife for cutting off his penis , John said , "Doc , I have no hard feelings."

Oregon Democrat - You should try to see him, he is very impressive. I have seen all the candidates in person, McCain, Hillary and Obama -but I saw Bill Clinton, and he was the best, speaker, best speech, best message - hands down.

Bill Maher is a liberal with a back bone and a hard edge. But like most of these types - he sometimes crosses the line and loses credibility with certain people.**

That is one advantage Republicans have - they are very good a toeing the line.

**(Case in point, I suspect he will be get some ANGRY letters from some Clintonites tonight ; ) But Bosnia was in the news...

Burrito..Yes..I would go to Bend,but travel overthe pass is a little iffy now.One radio report said he would be in Salem, but not confirmed..

Hillary is coming here the week of April 6th. Chelsa is also expected to make appearances in the state.

I have not seen Chelsea, but I would love to. I think she is a doll, and a bright woman. She is so pretty, and I can remember when the press was so mean to her when she was a child. What arrogant asshole fools.

Now this is a good point. To summarize: Barack is a big chicken...

"If Clinton runs the table, wins Pennsylvania by 60%, and wins (or comes real close) in North Carolina and Indiana -- and with voters in Florida and Michigan counted -- her large popular vote majorities will be hard to ignore, which is what Obama fears.

Bottom line, if the Democrats stand to lose Florida and Ohio and Arkansas because Obama is at the top of the ticket, the Superdelegates will have hard thinking to do if they want a Democrat in the White House next year.

Also troubling are the polls that show that more Clinton supporters will bolt the party for McCain if Obama heads the ticket, versus Obama voters who will bolt if Clinton wins the nomination. These are the Reagan, blue collar, Catholic Republicans, whom every Presidential candidate needs to win to gain the Presidency.

This fear that Clinton might surpass him in the popular vote is why Obama is so desperately trying to disenfranchise voters in these two populous states; and why Obama is trying so hard to get Hillary to drop out of, what most observers see, is still an open race.

Let the voters decide and then we can all feel comfortable backing the popular vote leader."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/blake-fleetwood/what-is-obama-afraid-of-_b_93995.html

Bill has got the voodoo magic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Tel0CeIrY

And I am sure the Clintons still have some cards up their sleeves.

BHO has provided a plethora of issue for people to question. It's no wonder that many people think he can't cut it in the general election.

Has it been 5 years already?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080329/hl_afp/healthustobacconewyork_080329042331

Very good observations Wendy.

Let the voters vote...Brrrack Brrrack Brrrack

Just saw Elisabeth Hasselbeck questioning Senator O on The View.

When you can't handle questions on The View, you are really in trouble...

When they were exploring whether Obama and Clinton supporters would vote for McCain on Bill Maher - I though the funniest line was:

After the last 8 years, I would vote for a Democrat if they pulled someone off the street!

Down with the GOP.

Time is flying past us. One month feels like one week. So a years feels like 3 months...it is kind of scary.

Burrito:

Time can't fly fast enough. Bush and Cheney are still in the WH.

I've never voted for a Republican..

I was 20 when I learned thay weren't called "Those Damned Repubiicans..

It was a good one. His show is a good mix of the Daily Show and the Chris Matthews show (on Sun. - not Hardball).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWStOxRW3yU

I love this because I know families that live this.
It makes me wonder about myself and my part in the whole scene, happy Friday to you all.

Mmm, usually I <3 Bill (Corey can attest to this), but tonight...um, NO.

Can't think of how Obama's pastor was racist? O RLY? And my mama can't think of how McCain's pastor was anti-Catholic.

This is why I am not church-y, kids. Sheesh.

Obama is a Muslim, Weathernan Black Panther, America hating terrorist. Period. Everything else is a lie.

Posted by: Huey | March 28, 2008 9:47 PM

bullshit... sorry but that is just stupid

Once more with feeling:

Don't you realize that every time you copy and paste that quote you are repeating a slam against the host of this blog that was said in the heat of the moment.

(You are also "Wrighting" the poster)

Wrighting (verb): using 30-second loop of someone's worst moments in order to attack that person or someone else.

(aka "Swiftboating")
Posted by: warren | March 28, 2008 10:06 PM

Warren, maybe that lowlife should apologise for the post made in the moment. Geez... now i understand why he saw his "ex" at some rally. Who could stand being around him for any considerable period of time?

Wrighting (verb): using 30-second loop of someone's worst moments in order to attack that person or someone else.

(aka "Swiftboating")
Posted by: warren | March 28, 2008 10:06 PM

Oh and any moment with it is a "worst moment"

Comment from the web:

"Republicans have created heroic narratives around Ronald Reagan. Narratives that have transformed the terribly flawed man into an awe inspiring bigger-than-life legend.

But for terms limits, Bill Clinton would easily have won a third term. When he left office, President Clinton's approval rating of 68% was the highest ever recorded for any departing president in the history of our nation. If the presidency of Bill Clinton never rises to the status of that of Ronald Reagan, it will not be because of the tireless and vicious efforts of Republicans. Rather it will be because the only Democratic president to win two terms since Harry Truman was willfully trashed and vilified by unforgiving Democrats. And all under the leadership of Barack Obama."

Hey, Craig! You are one of the very few clear-sighted commentators I still read, and I totally agree Senator Barama clearly implied - falsely, apparently - that his pastor, Rev. Wright, had acknowledged offending people, but the larger issue remains the same as it was when this story first broke. Does anyone except the Baramaniacs really believe that the senator had not read any of the church bulletins or heard (or heard about) any of the sermons that have so outraged any American with an ounce or two of patriotism? Why didn't he leave the Trinity United Church of Christ a year ago when he claims to have finally become aware of the pastor's controversial remarks, or more than three years ago when he left the Illinois statehouse for the U.S. Senate, or nearly seven years ago when he must have gotten word about the roosting chickens? It's all simply too incredible! And by the way, has any other reader noticed that clicking on the "Pastor" button at the church's web site (http://www.tucc.org/home.htm) seems to indicate that Rev. Wright has not actually retired?

good morning Patsi, etal... It's 12 noon here and finally a sunny but windy day. Rode my bike to the grocery store, stopped at work and feeling good.

Now listening to Doris Day on iTunes LOL

For HEATHER when she visits here again:

http://www.lyricsdownload.com/tommy-roe-heather-honey-lyrics.html

Posted March 27, 2008

Feingold tells Obama fans to 'cool it'

By Robert Mentzer
Wausau Daily Herald
rmentzer@wdhprint.com

The fight for the Democratic nomination for president has gotten personal in recent days, but U.S. Sen. Russ Feingold is urging calm.

"I'll tell some of the (Barack) Obama supporters here today: Cool it," Feingold, D-Middleton, said Wednesday to a group of about 50 people at the University of Wisconsin Marathon County. "Take it a little easy."

Feingold voted for Obama in the Wisconsin primary.

"If Obama takes down the Clinton campaign - he has been vetted enough for me."

Two Words: George Bush

"If Obama takes down the Clinton campaign - he has been vetted enough for me."

Obama has nothing to do with the Clinton campaign problems.

It's all about me.

http://walmartwatch.com/blog/archives/news_roundup_deborah_shank_v_wal_mart/

Another reason Walmart sucks

Since Obama's campaign is probably going to make it impossible for a Democrat to get elected this year...after 4 years of McCain...we should encourage Joe Wilson to run for President...he's a righteous dude!

"Obama's week of rolling out national security surrogates and talking points was not a pretty sight and turned out to have almost nothing to do with bolstering his thin credentials. His distracting efforts were a clear attempt to deflect attention from them, in fact. In response to Hillary's detailed, substantive speech on Iraq, Obama replied with ad hominem insults. Instead of presenting his own plan, his campaign indulged in character assassination."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-wilson/smears-and-tears-how-oba_b_93525.html

Since we now know the NBC poll oversampled and was not accurate...When it comes to the favorability question, how about we take it from Survey USA - linking to cross-tabs because they're interesting. Obama is only slightly more favorable than Hillary and both better than McCain.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=81b5fdd3-fbda-4580-8169-3a89e9f40a05

Wendy!: Joe Wilson is a prime example of new political term (coined by Salon reader):

SLURROGATE.

"Obama replied with ad hominem insults"

Slurrocandidate

Good Morning Craig, Everyone:

Well its Saturday and I will be at my favorite place with my daughter.

Today there is a major stakes race, Florida Derby, steppingstone to the Kentucky Derby. Its strange none of the major runners are entered, despite that it may be a good betting race without any strong prohibitive favorite the early morning odd have Elysium Fields @ 4-1 odds perhaps a slight overlay, but bred for distance if I were there and the odds held at 4-1 I'd bet it, can't argue with $10 to the deuce
:-))

I'll just wait for the "Big A"
Sincerely,
Heather

First time on this blog. I have been reading for weeks and really enjoy reading all the comments. I too had my tv on practically 24/7 on MSNBC. Watched Hardball for years, then Countdown came along, and wow I loved that show. Then something happened, Chris Matthews was not doing anything for me, then Keith, who I thought was the greatest became a snake.

I knowed on doors back in 2004 for Obama, thought he was a great candidate. I probably spent 4 Sundays with a friend going door to door trying to get support for his Senate race. Believe me, things just broke his way, the primary had the Ryan scandal of sex, and then his Republican opponent was a nut.

I felt Obama was not ready to run for President, not enough experience and we don't know enough about him. Also, there are too many questions about his connection to Rezko, and this Rezko has too many connections to Iraq and money.

Back to MSNBC, haven't had them on 24/7, gone to CNN. Sometimes I even turn on Fox News, I can't believe it. Everyday, I try to turn on Hardball or Keith and within a minute I turned them off. They start off with all negatives regarding Hillary, and Obama is their Saint. They take the smallest thing about Hillary and make it breaking news, and how dare she. With Obama, he is always the victim.

I noticed too I always did listen to Progressive Radio, Ed Schultz was my favorite. He too spends so much time making Obama the Saint and Hillary the Devil.

Main reason for reading this blog is Craig, have always like him. I like the way he stood by Imus and didn't run like the rest of the cowards. Don't get me wrong, Imus is a pig sometimes, but I did like his guests and his interviews. Craig is the only one with common sense.

Finally, you are all so right about Mika, she is in the tank for Obama and acts so stupid. I am watching Race For the White House and so far haven't turned it off.

I am definitely a Hillary supporter and have contributed more to her campaign then anyone since Howard Dean. She is a workhouse and does have the experience needed to run this country.

Thanks again for all the different views, Craig, keep up the good work.

This is cute

the part at 1:09 is particularly good

:-D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OozN9vupUr4

heather did you find the link I left for you?

Hey Dog:

Yep and he's a damn good one...and wicked smart on top of that!

Can't deny anything he wrote about in that article...it's all fact and damn good observations on his part.

Do not pay any attention to the man behind the curtain.

For Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX9dcWITkAo

Wendy!: Joe Wilson is a prime example of new political term (coined by Salon reader):

SLURROGATE.

Posted by: dog hussein dog | March 29, 2008 9:26 AM

Why? Because he supports Hillary? Everyone and their cousin loved the guy when he debunked bush's claim of nuclear rods being bought in Nigeria or wherever the fck it was. now his is "slurrogate"... That's low even for the strident Obama supporters.

Look Wendy!: I would like to see the Democrats retake the White House in 2008 too. Think it's crucial to our country and to reclaiming the Constitution and our standing in the world.

Like McCain way more than most, but he is too much a continuation of Bush-Cheney policies and that is just not a risk one can take.

We need a clean slate and fresh start.

BUT

Hillary Clinton is a polarizing figure and has very high negatives.

You can cheerlead all you want BUT Hillary is just not electable. If she wins the nomination, she is the golden albatross, because she will draw about 3/4 of Democrats and has very little crossover appeal.

McCain always bests her in a 1:1. That should not be happening this far out. There are people Obama can reach whom she will be able to.

So cheerlead all you want, but be careful what you wish for.

She is a known quantity. She has many good qualities. But she is not the best person running for President on the Democratic side.

"John Adams said that facts are stubborn things...

Picking on the energy industry is a standard part of Obama's stump speech, where he harshly criticizes the 2005 energy bill and the Vice President Dick Cheney's efforts in passing it.

"Exxon Mobil reported more than $10 billion in quarterly profits," Obama told a town hall in Greenburg, Pa. today. And then referring to Cheney, he added, "He met with the oil and gas companies 40 times. So is it any wonder than that the energy laws that were written were good for Exxon-Mobil but they are not good for you?"

The Problem...in 2005, Sen. Obama voted for the very same Dick Cheney energy bill, written in secret with the oil industry.

DOH!!!"

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/29/62314/1599

"That's low even for the strident Obama supporters."

Strident describes many on this blog, but not me.

EuroTom: you amuse me.

Typo in my 9:53 post. "not" is missing.

As in, corrected sentence reads: There are people Obama can reach whom she will NOT be able to.

Welcome Mamaknows. Always glad to see a new poster and the insight into Sen. Obama from someone who worked a previous campaign is very interesting.

Actually...Dog...I'm not invested in a "Democrat" taking the White House in November...don't include me in the "too". I'm invested in the RIGHT (as in correct) person taking the White House...Obama is not Right (as in correct)...he might be Wright (as in wrong)...but he's not Right (as in correct)

:-)

BTW...Dog...recent polls show that actually Obama is the one with the numbers problem when it comes to the general election...not Hillary...but enjoy your little spin...try to look at one spot so you don't get sick to your stomach.

;-)

Wendy!: Support Nader or whomever you want. Write in Joe Wilson. Go for it! But you will not be helping to right the ship of state, if you do.

And then you get to live with that.

You are all bluster.

"Support Nader or whomever you want. Write in Joe Wilson. Go for it! But you will not be helping to right the ship of state, if you do."

Actually that sounds like a lot of bluster to me Dog.

Make some real points about O' being a good President instead of pointing to all this other stuff like he does to distract from the fact that he's a mess with a thin record.

wah wah waah waah wah wah

Let democracy run its course.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/benjamin-r-barber/john-adams-vs-tom-jeffers_b_93912.html

McCain always beats Clinton BFL

Pew Research 03/19 - 03/22 49% 44% 7% Clinton +5.0%
FOX News 03/18 - 03/19 46% 43% 11% Clinton +3.0%
CBS News 03/15 - 03/18 46% 44% 6% Clinton +2.0%

She does as well as Obama against McCain
Real Clear Politics Polls

I am really sick and tired of the media, the pundits and some of the major players in the Democratic party trying to manipulate us. It has totally turned me off to politics and I was an addict.

They say that the super delegates should not go against what the voters have decided and vote for Cinton but then it is OK for some of those super delegates to publically endorse Obama. That has definitely influenced this race even if polls say it didn't. Most people are easy to manipulate but no one wants to admit they were manipulated.

I think Obama has manipulated some of the power players to think they will be major players in his administration. What suckers.

I think some of the ex democratic presidential candidates are experiencing sour grapes, if they couldn't win then they don't want anyone with with experience to win. I appreciate that Edwards hasn't done that yet. Since I don't keep up with the news anymore that may have already happened.

I also think that the Rev is part of a collilition that helped get Obama to where he is today. There is nothing else that explains such a newbie's rise to fame. I would like to know who else is in that collilition.

Many of the people who voted for Obama did so without knowing squat about him. He was just cool. That is a scary thought considering the mess our country is in today.

Obama scares me as much as David Duke did here in Louisiana. We voted for a known crook, who is now in prison, to keep that nut out of office.

I am a hard core Democrat but with the way things are going I wish Chuck Hagel would run for president. I have respected him since I first heard him speak back in 2000. I, can't in my heart support either Obama or McCain. My gut says no way. It is the very same gut feeling I had back in 2001.

The voters can end this thing on Apr. 22 - and the Super Delegates won't have to do anything except rubber stamp their choice and go to a big party in Denver:

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/polls/Pennsylvania-March-2008.html

Warren:

If Obama is the illegitimate nominee with over 2 million voters disenfranchised - at his encouraging - don't count on everyone joining hands.

A friend of mind who voted for Obama in the CA primary, whose brother is in Iraq (he's a Hillary supporter) said after talking to him yesterday that she might give McCain a look. How do you go from voting for a guy...to voting for his Republican opponent. And she's a much harder core Dem than I am.

If wishes were changes we'd all live in Roses...

Dear Tom:
Yes I did and thank you so much, I left a comment on your blogger blog site rather long one but I hope you don't mind :-))

Sincerely,
Heather

ET:

Which one is your blog? Is it on Craig's blogroll?

"Most people are easy to manipulate but no one wants to admit they were manipulated."

ct - You hit the nail on the head!!

Hah! How ironic for a Clinton supporter to write this.

Wake up white people!! The Clintons are the biggest manipulators out there. (And they are willing to "mis-speak" to do so.)

And ct - if you like Hagel. You should vote for Obama. There is a good chance Hagel's voice will be heard and listened to under an Obama administration.

BTW...that was supposed to be "mine"

and the last line should be in quotes...don't want to pull and Obama...

Wendy:

Can you quit with the threats? There is plenty of time before November - and I suggest you focus your attention on PA.

(Plus, if Obama is the Demcratic nominee - I am not predicting a close race in the general anyways. People want change - and McCain can't deliver that....unless of course he runs against Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton dynasty.)

ct

Yours is pretty much my position. The whole love affair with Sen. Obama is a major turnoff. After years of viewing the human condition, most people know that falling in too fast is almost always a disaster and falling out of love happens equally fast with a great deal of misery attached.

He may be a perfectly wonderful human being, but we don't know. Absolutely no one has looked into his background other than the self created one of his books and speeches. It is all pretty bubbles and cotton candy without any real substance.

Dear Warren:
I admire your tenacity and you will have the balloons and champagne at the convention but it will be short lived you just won't understand that Obama will hurt the democratic party than help it. Already the GOP war machine has the 527's flying out at Obama:-((
Sincerely,
Heather

Can you please quote my "threat"

Facts...Warren...are not threats...they are facts

You're such a drama queen. Obamadrama.

Dear Wendy:
I think Craig has it as "Heather" but its Politics & Everyday Life©

Sincerely,
Heather

Wendy

He is Eurotom near the bottom of the blog roll. Craig got him out of alpha order.

Wendy:

"If Obama is the illegitimate nominee with over 2 million voters disenfranchised - at his encouraging - don't count on everyone joining hands."

This is the threat. And you are improperly saying Obama is responsible for voters being "disenfranchised" when he did not make that decision. The DNC did and all candidates agreed.

Clinton: "You know, it's clear this election they're having isn't going to count for anything."

"she might give McCain a look."

Big freaking deal. Everyone should give McCain a look. That is the whole point of the general election. I simply think Obama will win because of Iraq the economy and America's desire for change. So people can look at McCain all they want.

You know, Wendy!, you are a bully. I am not surprised you fled Talking Points, as much for the Obama drift as because people there fight back and forth more.

Here, I erase so many rebuttals to you because I would like to maintain a cooler tone, a la Obama, vs. the all out kitchen sink Clinton tactics. Which are not working out very well for Dems -- his negatives go up, but hers go even higher. And she is dangerously close to 45-50% already in the general public. (Many of whom have grave reservations about continuing Bush-Cheney policies.)

PS: the threat you made was that you would not support the eventual Dem nominee, should it be Obama.

PS: re Joe Wilson's post: what is the "character assassination" that he alleges? I missed that.

Here's the passage from Wilson's HuffPost:

Obama replied with ad hominem insults. Instead of presenting his own plan, his campaign indulged in character assassination."

What is he talking about? What ad hominem insults?

Warren:

Let me help you:

"If Obama is the illegitimate nominee with over 2 million voters disenfranchised - at his encouraging - I and many other Hillary supporters WILL NOT vote for him."

That is a threat

What I wrote is an observation.

[shakes her head] poor Warren trying to stir up some Obamadrama.

:-D

You know, Wendy!, you are a bully

And the only drama queen I see Wendy is James Carville.

Would somebody tell that bald son-of-a-bitch to shut the heck up. His comments are as bad as Leahy's.

Would somebody tell that bald son-of-a-bitch to shut the heck up. His comments are as bad as Leahy's.

Posted by: warren

First agenda item for Democratic reconciliation.

Incoming! Peggy Noonan's weekly Hillary slam. Duck everybody:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120663639483768965.html?mod=todays_columnists

Dog

I know dog...those who have facts to support their positions...who lay out strong arguments are bullies...I know that's how this election is going.

Those who support Obama have nothing to hang an argument on because there is nothing there so I understand that it makes you angry because you can only retort with name calling. That's fine. I understand your frustration. It's hard to explain...nothing...

And if you missed the alleged character assassination Wilson talks about...then you didn't read the article...go back and read carefully because his argument is laid out very clearly and very carefully and he points to specific examples of Obama's hominem insults.

Now go get some facts instead of all this emotional mumbo jumbo you and Warren keep blurting out. Try to present real arguments in support of Obama instead of resorting to name calling...you make yourself and him look bad.

Warren
I think we know who Obama listens to..the good Rev. He either agrees with the good Rev or he is willing to pretend he does to get to where he is today.

I wouldn't vote for him because of this anymore than I would vote for someone who attended KKK rallies.

I actually do agree with a couple of things the Rev said that were contraversial but the Rev seems to blame the white man for everything and that is because the white man has been in charge forever. Beside being white there is another characteristic people are missing and that is the MAN. I think having a woman may be a good change.

Also there have been at least two very intelligent, capable, black people in this current administration, Ms. Rice and Mr. Powell. They should have had the power to keep us out of some of the mess we are now in in Iraq but they didn't. If Powell would have talked and walked, people would have paid attention. I think more people trusted him than they did anyone else. He could have saved us but it would have been a big sacrifice for him. I really can forgive him because either way he did have to pay a price.

And, Dog, if I'm a bully...you should be defending me...as you often defend Obama bullies...double standard...typical.

Dog, Wendy. I don't think either of you are bullies, as heated as things get in this place it's only natural to butt heads like this. But at least you engage, interact and are reasonably polite, as are 99.9 percent of the posters here on both sides of the Obama-Clinton divide. That's why I keep coming back!
--Lard

Lard

you're right...thanks for the reminder.

Stepping away from the computer now.

Taking the dog to the park...I'll be in a better mood later

:-D

Dear Warren:
They see a bad economy, an unpopular war and guess what? McCain still leads both in head to head match ups Warren.

You say their desire for change...well thats all relative, what happens when the economy goes on the upswing and improves and what if there begins a stable Iraq government, that will undercut Obama's call to change, and you can bet the GOP war machine is well known for its "October Surprises"

I'm sorry but Hillary is far better equipped to take on McCain than Obama is

--Heather

ct:

I think Obama listens to himself and the American people.

And if you want to get a sense of who Obama is - read his books.

Don't just make snap judgments based on the 30-second Rev. Wright loop and the sound bites of Obama's political opponents. That my dear is being "manipulated" . . . whether you want to admit it or not.

Courage In Women Is Often Mistaken For Insanity

http://houston.indymedia.org/news/2004/06/30841.php

Dear Wendy:
Please make it a short break you are <3 loved, needed and appreciated :-))

Sincerely,
Heather

Warren, is that really you using that gross language in characterizing other people?

If so, why not try dazzling people with some fantastic verbal gymnastics? Doing so wouldn't make you sound supercilious or condescending. It would just make you sound like the intelligent, thoughtful person whom we all know, you are.

Heather:

"McCain still leads both in head to head match ups Warren."

Well at least they are close and the general election is months away.

Remember months before the votes started getting cast in the Democratic Primary - Clinton was ahead of Obama by 20-30 points.

And what you have to know about people that support Obama - is once they start - they don't stop.

And will EVERYBODY please stop thinking I am naive because I am confident about Obama's chances against the GOP.

I respect Republicans - but they do not intimidate me.

(Quit acting so afraid of the GOP peeps!!)

I think all of these McCain vs. Whomever numbers are totally meaningless at this point. I'd like to see pollsters figure out a way to measure the effect of the current Clinton-Obama split in the Dem party. I'm sure there are lots of rock-ribbed Dems who are answering McCain or "none-of-the-above" when the matchup doesn't involve their preferred candidate.

I've got to believe that gap closes and Dems will ultimately overwhelm McCain if the Dems successfully produce whichever nominee who can then reach out to the other side of the intraparty divide. It will take a lot of political skill to heal things, but even if a chunk of the losing side defects or sits it out, my gut tells me McCain will lose in the general.

Warren,

"if you want to get a sense of who Obama is - read his books."

Wouldn't it make more sense to read what others who know him say rather than what he says about himself?

Quit acting so afraid of the GOP peeps

Send that message to Congress!

Flatus:

I enjoy using gross language. It can be very descriptive - especially if you are having gross fealings such as outrage, bitterness, frustration etc.

Truth is more important to me than manners. And I always try to maintain a civil, even if sometimes crass, tone....

Off To Caucus Registration training.

(of course I don't always succeed in maintaining that tone ; )

Warren I was against Obama way before I even heard of the good Rev. Don't insult me. I have been around the block a time or two. I really just don't know enough about him and his book would not be where I would go to look. I also don't look to Oprah for advice except maybe on how to get rich.

I believe in experience not coolness as a major prerequsiste for being president. I think there should be a dues you have to pay to get to the top. I think Clinton has definitely paid it. The news media has been hounding the Clintons for years and years.

I don't judge Hillary by what her husband has done.

I don't think that using cocaine should be a prerequiste for being president. I can just hear parents telling their kids, honey you better try some cocaine, most of our presidents did. There are many people sitting in our jails because they were caught with cocaine on them but it OK to be president if you didn't get caught.

Those are just a few of my reasons Warren.

Morning All,
To all Hillary supporters , prepare for the shocker.
Mark it on your calender, PA will bring surprises.

warren
why would i read his books ???? whats the difference
between written lies and spoken lies ?????
the man is a super con artist and i hope the public finally see's through him

And what the hell is Bill Clinton doing out on the stump for John McCain in this critical election year?!?

(And wouldn't it be nice - if at the same time the Right Wing - and others - are trying to tear down the likely Democratic nominee with the Rev. Wright controversy - that the most-respected former US President (that is still kicking ; ) - came out and said Senator Obama is "admirable" instead of Senator McCain. Gee wiz Bill - say something nice about Hillary or the Democratic Party or don't say anything at all!!)

Obama's Pennsyvania ads are given 4 pinnochios
and flaming pants. His claims he takes no money from lobbyists have been widely refuted and his claim to have organized for the steelworkers has also run into trouble.

IOOKIYAO

obama's people are saying the only democrats who have won a national presidential election in last 30 years don't know anything'the clintons and carville's
the people who have lost or have backed losers are now the experts and we should listen to them.
just trying to find the logic in that theory

Jamie:

"Wouldn't it make more sense to read what others who know him say rather than what he says about himself?"

Wouldn't it make sense to read what others who know Clinton have to say about her rather than ONLY listening to what the Clinton Loyalists have to say?

There is a lot more truth in Obama's books - than the nonsense that is being spewed by Carville and Pat B.

(Of course Pat is just a temporary passenger on the HRC bandwagon.)

Posted by: warren | March 29, 2008 11:22 AM

Obama demonstrated great contempt for President Clinton. Why would Clinton be of any value after all according to Obama he was a mediocre president
and destroyed the Democratic Party, not too mention a racist.

warren
why would clinton say obama is admirable when he's not .....clinton is shrewed he attacks McCain through his strengths ,,,,,,which is all McCain has .... his hereo image everything else is a negative ,,,,,economics etc

WTF:

"Obama demonstrated great contempt for President Clinton. Why would Clinton be of any value after all according to Obama he was a mediocre president
and destroyed the Democratic Party, not too mention a racist."

That is your spin - not mine or Obama's. And I would like you to see you find some actual facts to back up that spindrool.

(And I sure as hell would have some "contempt" for someone who was currently in the process of trying to tear me down. And I wouldn't care who the fuck he or she is or was.)

HRC took the most money from lobbyists last year than ANY politician.

(And just wait till those tax returns come out ; )

warren --------------------------

Obama has been promoted and protected by MSM. Why? There is damaging info that has not surfaced in the mainstream media. If Obama gets the nomination, do you really believe that corporate media will continue to protect him?

A few days ago, I overheard some "Typical White People" discussing Obama - they did not have even the most basic facts correct. Many people questioned in surveys have only a superficial knowledge of the candidates. That is a huge danger for Obama - the Repubs would define him.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OBAMA_BUSH?SITE=CONGRA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

You have got to be kidding me. As I said, Obama digs a hole deeper every day. What he is trying to delect now is the perception Obama will return us to the Carter Days. This is such a transparent attempt to run from his advisors and the controversy of Wright it is actually funny.

Maybe Obam reads my threads and has started to "pivot" now before things get more ugly. Reagan was a unilateralist who armed Saddam and Bush senior has been accused by Obama's Left as going after the oil and then leaving Saddam in power.

Then the comparison with JFK gets the laugh award for the weekend.

Perhaps Obama places too much faith in words to get him out of the corners he p[aints himself into.

If I get Powers right, we ought to make a new path to prevent genocide and understand we can not win victories anymore, but simple negotiate the best of bad outcomes with our enemies. McPeak, Malley, Zbig and Rice do not represent a return to former Reagan, JFK or Bush senior policies, but then the Press isn't going to blast this hilarious speech, now are they?

That is your spin - not mine or Obama's. And I would like you to see you find some actual facts to back up that spindrool

HRC took the most money from lobbyists last year than ANY politician.

(And just wait till those tax returns come out ; )

Posted by: warren

Unlike Obama she never lied and said she did not take lobbyist money. So what's your point.

The Obama campaign has completely dropped the tax return issue after the drubbing they took over their cheapness

ct:

Being cool is high on my list on qualities for being President. So we will have to just agree to disagree on the value of "experience" vs. "coolness".

(btw, Bill Clinton beat Bush 41 by winning the "cool contest" - NOT the "experience debate")

And I am with you - no one should do cocaine - that is one evil drug.

(But I am not troubled by the fact that most of our Presidents have smoked a joint at some point. And I don't quite buy the "statement" that Mr. Rhodes Scholar did not know how to "inhale"....Wild Bill is quite a character ; )

warren

if you think there is something in her tax returns that are damaging ...i have a bridge to sell you real cheap....after millions of dollars and years of digging ken starr found nothing in 20 years of tax returns....in fact 130 million dollars couldnt find a misdomeanor......so i hope you have fun with her tax returns

Other qualities I look for in a President:

Intelligence
Judgment
Strength
Patience
Authenticity
Sense of humor
Informed world view

(these are "a few of my favorite things" and why I support Obama : )

Maxtrue
Your Repug team has a sterling record to defend this cycle.
"Repubonomics" which skewed tax cuts heavily to the favoured few, a $1 trillion bailout ( and climbing) and the mass marginalization of the vast majority of Americans.
Throw in the "Doctrine of Preemptive War", a $800 billion war bill ( and climbing) in Iraq that produces a Mucharraf clone in the form of Maliki.
So solier on in your efforts to fan the flames of division in the Dem primary.
Very soon this will be over and for the most part will kiss and make up.
Applying your principle of guilt by association , JMcCain will have a hell of a time distancing himself for the debacle of the last 8 years.

warren --------------------------------

Remember our "Scandal Bomb" discussion and the TIME quote? Here is something more to think about from MSNBC:

Why Clinton floated the delegate switch idea

"There’s a logic for Clinton to remind people of the possibility that future events might cause some pledged delegates to re-think their commitments. "

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23829781/

Since we now know the NBC poll oversampled and was not accurate...When it comes to the favorability question, how about we take it from Survey USA - linking to cross-tabs because they're interesting. Obama is only slightly more favorable than Hillary and both better than McCain.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=81b5fdd3-fbda-4580-8169-3a89e9f40a05

Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | March 29, 2008 9:24 AM

Wendy!,
Please check out Craig's post on this. I'm afraid you're mistaken about the issue of oversampling and accuracy.
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/03/obama-sticks-to-wright-story.html#comment-59084

Gordo:

"If Obama gets the nomination, do you really believe that corporate media will continue to protect him?"

Absolutely.

Do you think Keith O is going to start putting Obama on his "worst persons in the world" list? And do you think Chris, Rachel, Chuck and Nora are going to start trying to get the guy elected who wants "100 years" or more war and continue Bush's policies?

"A few days ago, I overheard some "Typical White People" discussing Obama - they did not have even the most basic facts correct."

As a Democrat - you should have made sure they had the most basic facts correct. Every voter should be informed.

Hell Gordo - during the general, Taylor will probably even re-program you to start spamming oppo-research on McCain instead of Obama!

Posted by: Dianne | March 29, 2008 11:55 AM
If you are going to correct the record, include all the corrections.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/03/obama-sticks-to-wright-story.html#comment-59132

tz:

"which is all McCain has .... his hereo image everything else is a negative ,,,,,"

It is very clear to anyone paying attention to the Republicans (and I don't know if the Clintons are included in this group) - McCain is running on his hero image. And guess what - that may be enough to get him elected in a war-time election.

(GI Joe is coming out this summer ; )

But Obama's message of judgment and ending the mindset that got us into Iraq - will play in the general.

Meanwhile, the Clintons are setting themselves up for defeat in November in a desparate and short-sighted attempt to get the nomination.

Hillary is basing her National Security credentials on "experience." A debate she clearly loses to John McCain. And Bill Clinton is busy saying McCain is a "patriot", "hero", "moderate", "admirable", etc.

(All of which is true my friends - but we don't need a 527 against Hillary using Bill's stump speeches for McCain!!)

GORDO
I understand the desperation.
Repugs have the unenviable task of defending the indefensible; their reckless and disasterous record of these last 8 years.
Huckabee gave the template--- its going to take a miracle.
Pray without ceasing

Fact check, please:
"...that most of our Presidents have smoked a joint at some point."

http://www.centristcoalition.com/blog/archives/004197.html

A post of mine, you will find that discusses the absurdity of Obama's new claim on foreign policy.

No matter how Obama wants to mask it in absurd deflection, he is not taking us back to Reagan and Bush 1. I think it is clear how far Obama will go to flip-flop and duck. I would argue this a far worse lie than Hillary's exaggeration on Bosnia snipers.

Read it if you have the time,

thanks

Good Heavens LOL!
I'm away for an hour and all this hostility breaks out. The messiah Obama claims the ability to heal the masses and bring everyone together....hmmmm he can start right here on this blog. Let's all join messiah Obama his Peter, Paul and Mary choir and "Puff the Magic Dragon"

kidding :-))
--Heather

Pot is not the problem, the Kool Aid is. If you can buy the new Obama spin of his foreign policy, then you've been drinking far too much.

Obama's advisors hardly harken back to the Days of Reagan and JFK. This sure is silly season.

Like I said yesterday; take the associations and the advisors, policy declarations and stump speechs and you will not find JFK, FDR, Truma, Reagan or even Bush 1. You won't even find Bill Clinton...LOL

This is just foolish and I guess when pressed, Obama shows his true colors. Just use more words and hope the Press spins it his way.

That was my morning joke...Obama, a good one....

http://www.damianpenny.com/archived/011088.html (ht Tully)

We can see this sentiment on the Obama side. THis divide separates many Democrats and Obama's damage control does not make it go away.

Yes, Wendy, just read Obama's books, review his policy papares, take a good look at the web of associations and those mentors and friends he elevates in his life's story.

So many words.....

And George, try another tact. Given Obama's motley crew of experts on foreign policy, the Republicans will have a field day with Barak's claims to Bush 1 and Reagan. I guess you think trying to be objective about the Obama record is being Republican. Wellm gee, I guess you are just a Dem-wit. Stop the name calling and stick to the issues please.

Notice Obama didn't mention Clinton's foreign policy which his former advisor Powers credited for a rare prevention of genocide. Desert Fox broke saddam's army. And Obama didn't object to Saddam's staying in power after the first Gulf war? I guess Auchi made more money that way.

ET:

Which one is your blog? Is it on Craig's blogroll?

*******

Wendy it's probably listed as Thomas Freeman or something... The link for my blog is: http://eurotom.blogspot.com/

Just got home and am thinking of a short blog entry about my friends who support Obama and what it means to me as a Clinton supporter. It will probably be short and sweet.

Everyone's testy... :-)

Dear Tom:

Just put me in the Clinton category :-))

P.S.
Got your link...thank you loved it put it in "my favorites"
commented on your blog.
brb its canine romper room here, seems like my "Babies" are restless too :-))
Sincerely,
Heather