Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Good Moring Craig, All

I totally agree With your post I just have this awful gut feeling nothing will be resolved.

Joe Scarborough is posting interesting polls on Morning Joe and last night's comments on Race to the White House With David Gregory.

Seems like the messiah Obama's support is crumbling.

Shhhhhh don't tell Warren he's still living a denial Obama can win. lol

Sincerely
Heather

If the MI and FL delegate mess isn't solved and solved properly, we are toast in November.

"A Democratic national convention without Florida and Michigan suggests the need for an Electoral College strategy that contemplates victory without either state in the party’s November tally."

Considering the current unfavorable news cycle, that seems unlikely.

Thank you Dem Party,

For Real McChange with true leadership
McCain/Romney 08 is the best and winning ticket.

And we care about Fl and MI

It may be more beneficial for Hillary to have Fla & MI as talking points for the fabric of her Big States, Electoral-weight pitch to Super-delegates. Whereas actual re-do's at this point would not overcome his advantages (especially given a two-person field), Obama is aiding and abetting that story-line by being perceived as opposing them. Hillary can now add to her pitch that only she can provide the way out of this mess of our own making: Choose her as the nominee and all is resolved by welcoming them with open arms. Choose him without counting Fla and MI and you wronfully deny her candidacy.

Why must the sanction be to not count the votes? As I asked before is this the only solution the (I called him pea brain) Dean and the Dems can come up with....

The Obama wave has peaked, could rebuild but lets see.

As near as I can see this entire primary cluster f***, here's where we stand as a party. Our candidate has been chosen largely by independents and Reagan Democrats, voting in red states that we cannot possibly win in November, cheerleaded in by a press core wanting "an historic race" and shrugging off the possibility of a female president as chopped liver.

To achieve this, the best president America has had in the last 50 years has been demonized as a racist and marginalized as a "triangulator" by a candidate who is running on the concept of triangulating.

And I offer this article:
http://www.correntewire.com/triangulation_the_next_generation

The female candidate, of course, is being jeered at by a few East Coast chatterers because in a race that is damn neara tie, she refused to lay down and be mugged.

And while some are salivating over the hopes that states like Idaho and Kansas voted for our presumptive nominee, the Democratic party shoots the bird to Michigan and Florida.

Just dandy.

You can thank the Senate Democrats in Michigan for no do over there.

"The Senate Dems just had a long caucus meeting following their long phone call with the Gang of Four [as Carl Levin and others pushing a re-vote are called], and the result is that no one moved. Votes aren't there. Thus, it will not go to a vote in the Senate. And barring some other last minute miracle that doesn't involve those four, the governor and Hillary traveling to Michigan, it is dead as a doornail."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/Doover_is_dead.html

Plus there was a letter sent out where another Michigan office holder said that holding another Primary in June would put it right in the middle of two other election races.

But its easier to blame Obama isn't it?

Michigan was a Caucus and Obama wants to make sure that Republicans that voted in the Republican Primary don't vote again. However, those who voted in the Democratic Caucus should be allowed to vote, just not those who did not.

Don't worry Heather - I don't freak out and over-react to every poll I see (don't we always complain about the media for doing that).

But I must admit - it is frustrating to hear Joe S. (all morning long) stoking the coals of racial tension - but hey - he is just doing his job.

I doubt that Obama's speech the other day is going to get the same play as the repetition of the sound bites from Rev. wright. It just won't have the same impact as a crazy sounding preacher screaming hate.

It kind of reminds me of when I used to go to NYC to visit my brother, and there was this group that had taken over Times Square. They stood there at attention while their leader screamed racist hate into a portable megaphone at the people passing by. Those pedestrians just put their heads down and hurried by. It seems like it was easier for the city and cops to just pretend these people weren't there rather than put an end to that crap. When Rudy became mayor, these people were no longer welcome there.

Patsi:

The sky is not falling. It is only March for godsakes. I am still focused on this primary race and ending this thing before turning to the general.

I have my reasons for thinking Obama will do well in November. And I am not going to let some polls or the Republican Attack Machine dissuade me.

btw, good morning all!

If a candidate wins a lot of little states but loses the big states does that mean anything. What messages are the voters sending out. So far the voters are not sure who they want. Look how close the popular vote is. With or without FL since both were on the ballot.

James Rubin - Clinton Foreign Policy - advisor is starting to sound more like me and Obama on Morning Joe. No much talk of the ole 60-day deadline.

Unfortunately he slipped up saying - well Gen. Patreus is scheduled to be removed from Iraq by Jan 09 - a subtle way to discount him. Bad move. Patreus specializes in counter-insurgency - and even if he is not in charge - his policies will be alive and well in the military. Trying to push him off to the side is unwise.

The Dems are going to need to get the military buy-in to appear credible for the general.

I really recommend trying to catch that last night's Charlie Rose on Iraq - it was enlightening.

I can't believe that no Michigan and/or Florida revote is all Obama's fault. I'm sure there's plenty of squabbling in each state's legislature going around...
not to mention the still unsolved problem of who's going to pay for a redo....

but as we've discussed many times..... perception in politics is everything.
If it remains that Michigan and Florida don't have their delegates seated at the convention and it is perceived to be because of Obama.... it will not bode well for the Democratic party in November.....

this will come back to bite him in the butt......
just like the race baiting has now done to him.....
if he'd only stated after NH that the good people of my state made a different choice and race had nothing to do with it as the media was trying to make out,
I don't think he'd be in as much of a mess as he's in today.....

the sky is not falling
obama is' and he does'nt have a parachute

If the Florida Democrat Party really wants to get the DNC's attention, they should start working to get both Hillary and Obama qualified as a write-in candidates on the November ballot. That way, if either one is nominated without input from Florida Democrats, Florida Democrats will have another chance to make their choice formally known in November.

That ought to scare the hell out of Howard Dean.

everybody still talking about the SPEECH ' the most important speech in the history of mankind
jesus'' the sermon on the mount''that was so yesterday
lincoln 's gettysburg address
winston churchhill'' FDR''' JFK''MLK
all amateurs'' rookies
'barack the great' has spoken

being happy when the primary season is over and a candidate is finally chosen is somewhat akin to "I'll be happy when this alzheimer's goes away".

Thus spake Sturgathustra.

being happy when this primary season is over and a nominee is finally chosen is somewhat akin to saying "I'll be happy when this alzheimer's goes away."

Thus spake Sturgeathustra.

Consensus was Obama folks liked Obamanauts (thanks Lardass -- great suggestion and underlying meaning), with votes for Obamamaniacs and Obamamamas and Obamapapas.

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Caught 5 mins. of Morning Joe today before hitting the remote. All the doom and gloom about the polls for Obama.

Boys and girls: did anything besides Rev. Wright video clips and the resulting Obama speech happen within the last week?

Like maybe the collapse of Bear Stearns and Carlyle Capital and red flags galore on the economy?

I think a lot of the polling is working class Dems' anxiety over the economy, and that might portend a look at HRC's "experience" again. Bring on those White House records.
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On the bright side: happy first day of Spring, y'all.

(submitting this about 8:31 a)

Got up late so I've only been watching MoJo for a half hour. I love John Ridley. Even if he is an Obama supporter. That man talks more good sense in five minutes than MoJo utters in a month of programs. Even Mika doesn't giggle while he is speaking.

There are valid worries about seating Michigan's and Florida's delegates but Hillary only voiced her concerns about them when it became apparent that she would need their delegates' votes to win the nomination. She didn't care or voice her opinions before this need.

Obama is correct - let the DNC, not Hillary make the decision.

What we don't need is the 'spin du jour' from Hillary. I fear for Hillary's propaganda machine if she became president - this is what this country does NOT need. Send the monster back to the Senate - or better yet send her back to oblivion in Arkansas where she could be supported by Bill's anonymous library donors.

Come on dog, you are forgetting Governors Gone Wild up in Albany, NY

They may be getting another new one very soon, if the new guys affiars keep increasing in numbers. And I think this guy is a Hillary suppporter too.

WOW!! I can't believe how much Mika looks like her Dad!!! Dr. B. is like Mika in an age enhanced picture (without make-up).

Dear Warren:

LOL you are adorable in some ways, Joe was not stroking the coals of racist tension, I believe the Rev. Wright did that. Joe was trying to be a pragmatic realist in a polite way and very well thought out. Mika and Warren just cannot see the forest for the trees, they live in their while ivory tower liberal condo’s and assume the rest of the Democratic Party is as liberal as the are, wrong wrong wrong.

I feel vindicated, yesterday on the Britt Hume Special Report finally a pundit told the truth and said it eloquently, that pundit was Charles Krauthammer. He gave an award winning analysis on Obama's speech, he actually echoed what I posted here a few days earlier, Barack Obama is a repackaged version of Jessie Jackson with better oratory skills and a Harvard Law Degree.

Later today I will do a thorough analysis of Obama's speech and post it later.

If I were Obama supporters I would be afraid, very afraid. He most likely get the Democratic nomination and do what all extreme left wing radicals of our party do, crash and burn in the general election.

One day it is my hope the centrist pragmatic DLC majority wing will gain control from the minority liberal wing of our party that do nothing more then ruin it.

How many times must our party crash and burn with radical left wing nominees? Wake up... the Daily Kos crowd are ruining our party.

There was precious little that I agreed with Ronald Reagan with, but he had point that was less valid at the time he said it, but more so now "I did not leave the Democratic Party...The Democratic Party left me.

Obama will only lose the support he currently has now, just wait when he is in the general and he has to take positions on gun control, abortion, gay marriages, and has to defend his 1 trillion 10 year budget, his statement to raise taxes etc.

He already lost the White Jewish vote, the independent vote, the Reagan Democrats vote, the 25% of Hillary supporters that say they will vote McCain in the general and the 4% saying they will not vote in the general if he is nominated, the Nader factor, and once again look for the young vote to do what they do best and that is be no-shows in the general.

Congratulations extreme radical left wing liberals have cost us yet another presidency in an election year we should win.

As for all these Hillary haters that keep referring to the Clinton's as "bullies" I think a better word is tenacity or survivor I hardly think Hillary should step down for a coronation party for the messiah Obama simply because a minority faction of the Democratic Party that is overly vocal in their obsession of the messiah Obama.

Sincerely,
Heather

Mika's daddy is a fraud. Comparing HRC to "Mamie Eisenhower". I would like to point out that Mamie never even officially graduated from high school. As was common for the time period

Mamie attended Denver's public schools and, then, completed her education at Miss Wolcott's, a prestigious, private finish school for the daughters of prominent Denver families.

She married Ike at 20 and spent her life as a military wife never have a job outside of the home.

Somewhat apples and oranges.

the scary black man crap just keeps coming from the Republicans.
Now, the real racism is starting you don't have to imagine these.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0308/AntiObama_video_crafted_by_talk_radio_producer.html

Jack

So much for the 50 state strategy...more like a 48 state strategy.

"I fear for Hillary's propaganda machine if she became president - this is what this country does NOT need"

LOL
Another Republican wingnut

Jack

Ping Pong said:

"Thank you Dem Party,

For Real McChange with true leadership
McCain/Romney 08 is the best and winning ticket.

And we care about Fl and MI"

Ping Pong

LOL
Your enjoying this meltdown way too much:-)

Jack

This delay is deliberate isn't it?

Jack

""I'll be happy when this alzheimer's goes away"."

I think of it more as some sort of chronic disease that has a false elation followed by an uncomfortable, long treatment period from June to November.

Obama is unelectable - he should drop out. There is no way he can get away from Rev Wright. This video is an example of what Repubs would use against him and the Dem Party. They would say: "What kind of political party would nominate a man like this?" I've been warning about the Rev trouble - there is more "dirt" to be dumped on Obama. Dems never seem to learn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72B3tUAqpo4

"let the DNC, not Hillary make the decision"

This Democracy stuff is just so so messy.

how can the extreme left of the democratic party'' white liberal holier than thou ''college educated' people be so dense not too see what is going on with middle class working people'they will not vote for obama in november
how do these people even tie thier shoes in the morning

"Boys and girls: did anything besides Rev. Wright video clips and the resulting Obama speech happen within the last week?
"

Yep. Mika just announced that now she can check Hillary's records to see what she was doing while Bill was with Monica.

If it is then it is certainly a good way to ruin what has been a pleasant experience. The conversational give and take has been fun. Much better than other blogs where people just bore you with their dumbass opinions without ever bothering to listen.
Listening is what makes politics work in the long run. If all we do is jump up and down and scream our opinions and treat them as if they were handed down from God on high, then all we get is dead lock. At some point we have to listen to each other and realise that other people have a valid point of view.
Even if they do sound like the Reverend Wright and seem to be nut case crazy to our own provincial sensibilities.

end of sermon

Jack

mornin' all.

Man, talk about rain! We had frog choking rain here last night - I'm just glad I wasn't in Texas and hope that anyone here who is there or anyone who is dear to anyone here who happens to be there are fine.

I had lunch yesterday with a deeply republican colleague who claims that it is not Obama winning in little states, but Clinton who is winning big states because of Republican votes. Who know? I do tend to discount most of what he says politically - he's patently wrong more than he's right.

Renee, send me an e-mail at larry dot chafin at steptoe hyphen johnson dot com.

I didn't hear a word that Dr. B said, as I was on the phone and had the sound off...

Gordo, Who pays you to post this constant stream of stuff without actually carrying on a conversation?

Senator Obama missed a good bet because he tried to shove two speeches into one and then made that one speech in front of a bank of flags. It was just too loaded with symbolism.

He should have just invited people to a church service. Ridley said it all this morning. You can't understand the frustration and anger if you haven't lived the life. Conservative white people approve of "do it yourself" movements in the black community or when Bill Cosby says it, but then come unglued when they see "help yourself black centered" messages in a church mission statement.

Sure Wright is off the deep end. That doesn't mean the paranoia isn't real within his community. Sen Obama could have denied that message while giving respect to the people who have reason to believe it.
Instead he went all "post civil rights nobility".

Sometimes you just need to hold up a mirror and let people look at themselves and then say the time has come to stop this and we can only stop it together.

I still believe that the best possible ticket would be Clinton/Obama if they can set aside their differences. It is a winning ticket against anything Republicans could field and would lead to an Obama term.

Nielsen Online, Selected Web Sites — February 2008

Unique Visitors in Millions

19.0 NYTimes.com
12.3 ABCNEWS Digital Network
12.1 Google News
10.2 Fox News Digital Network
10.0 CBS News Digital Network
4.6 NPR
4.2 New York Post
4.1 NewsMax.com
3.7 TheHuffingtonPost.com
3.4 drudgereport.com
2.9 The Politico
2.8 Salon.com
2.2 Chicago Sun-Times
1.7 The Washington Times
1.2 Daily Kos
1.2 worldnetdaily.com
1.2 Townhall.com
1.0 NationalReview.com
1.0 Human Events Online

http://newsmax.com/insidecover/Newsmax_Web_traffic_soars/2008/03/19/81657.html

LL

It became an Obama campaign commercial...you didn't miss much.

Jack, you are making uncommonly good sense this morining - keep talking - I'm listening.

Heather so true. Gordo is right, that Obama will not be the next President. It isn't about Wright. It is about everything from caucuses, to Rezko, from Wright to just plain wrong about his taking tough positions. The Black Panthers were on Fox defending Obama and Wright last night. The Jewish vote will abandon Obama, Hispanics were never there. Soon the white male vote will defect. Florida and Michigan. Powers, Zbig and Malley. Now Meaks. Soon Auchi.

THe question is whether HIllary can win with Obama supporters stsaying at home. Yes We Can. I think there is a growing perception that pissing off the centrist and moderate Democrats will certainly bring defeat for Obama. He should do the Party some good and accept VP. That is about the only hope and change this primary needs from him. THe worst judgement he saved for thinking these problems would never surface and that he could talk his way into the White House.

He is the last person I would have negotiating with our enemies. Obama has managed to make Edwards, Richarson and Biden look good. Now I know why Democrats are for gun control. Accidental shootings would sky rocket.

Make that "Who KNows?" Sheesh.

Can you just IMAGINE if the situation was reversed and Hillary was in favor of disenfranchings millions of voters? The horror! The fodder! Oy!

Jack

From that article you posted "the U.S. Olympians who raised their hand in the black power salute"

Talk about living through history. Here is an article on that 1968 protest

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/summer-olympics-mexico-city.html

I live in San Jose when Lee Evans (not in the famous photo but still part of the protest) won his medal in Mexico City http://ibm.mtsac.edu/relays/HallFame/Evans.html

I also worked with his brother Dayton, one of the nicest human beings it has ever been my pleasure to know. Unfortunately Dayton lost his life in a drowining accident a few years later and Lee never went to the 1972 Olympics.

A good thing about the delay

I getting my taxes done instead of listening to all your nut case opinions ;-)

Jut got this in an email response to an online ad for a rental house, Thought I would share, lol, one thing I can say is they are honest folk.
"Anyway, we have had the same landlord for the last 6 years, but we have bad credit, that we are hoping will not hurt us in finding a nice place to rent. Our landlord did file eviction a year ago but it was taken care of and we were never evicted and have not had trouble before or since. We can not pay more than $650 a month, which is why the $600 on this place sounds really good"

You know there is a time to bring this up but I don't think an introductory email is one of them.

Jack

Thanks for the video, GORDO. I am sending it to all my friends, who are HRC supporters.

You know, if these clips of Jeremiah Wright represent what is being taught in "black" churches(behind closed doors), across the country...then it's no wonder why Americans can't get beyond the racial divide that exists, in our nation.

Bush approval level at new low, disapproval at new high.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/19/bush.poll/index.html

Duh.

This delay is making me crazy. How can you carry on a conversation with a time lag.

Did Claire McCaskill seriously say with a straight face that Barack Obama is the first black leader to come to the american people NOT AS A VICTIM BUT AS A LEADER?

Sooooooo......remember when Hillary Clinton said LBJ played an important role in signing the Civil Rights legislation and she was run out of town as a racist diminishing the role of Rev. MLK? What's going to happen to McCaskill on this one? Is she going to be run out of town or called a racist for diminishing Rev. MLKs leadership?

Wow...unbelievable...

http://videos.kansascity.com/vmix_hosted_apps/p/media?id=1779648

Anon P if you're around and see this drop me an email, bgarens at gmail.com

America will you please bring democracy to Michigan and Florida?

Good little video juxtaposing Olberman statements in regards to Clinton and Obama...shows him to be the hypocrite he is.

http://videos.kansascity.com/vmix_hosted_apps/p/media?id=1779648

Hi Craig,
Did you or anyone hear the Black Panther on HCombs last night? It was unreal.
I find it interesting that Obama has their endorsement and on his web site. Guess what it is no longer on there. GREAT JUDGMENT!!
He really needs to drop out if the Dem race wants to win in Nov.
As for Fl, and MI someone needs to decide and Obama needs to agree with MI for a revote.

Jack

ROFL

Good mornin' y'all!

After thinking entirely too much about the re-vote situation I've decided it should be a non-issue. Everyone knew the rules before hand and accepted it at the time. It's time for them to stand by the choices they made, man up, and live with the consequences.

My problem for today is that I'm tired of hearing G-- Da-- all over the TV. Didn't anyone teach these people on the news not take the Lord's name in vain. I'm going to have toturn the news off because my little one asked for some G. D. cereal for breakfast. LOL!

"the U.S. Olympians who raised their hand in the black power salute"

Jamie

I found the inclusion of that a little weird.
You have to be in your mid 50's to even remember that or think it will provoke a reaction.
I would like to be able to write them off as a bunch of old fart reactionary racist.

I'm out of here for the rest of the day. It is too nice and I need to wire a house before the sheetrockers can work.

Jack.

Jack

Never underestimate the Middle class American voter
Its ironic but credit hard working blue collar centrist Reagan Democrats they can tell and seperate the difference between McCain and Bush, Bush's approval at all time low, yet McCain's is reaching new highs.
This tells me the American voter is for more sophisticated and intelligent then arrogant journalists give them credit for.

They like me, realize that McCain s not a third term for Bush, He will govern independent of Bush policies except for Iraq. One some issues will will see McCain taking more centrist views inthe general election.

One more thing that bears mentioning is that dollars to dougnuts should Obama get nominated you will see a large migration of blue collar Reagan Democrats to becoming Independents or to the Republican party [sic] One more thing we can be grateful to the extreme left in our party for.

--Heather

YAY!! Brian's back!!! 8~D

my little one asked for some G. D. cereal for breakfast.
--JennBe

How old is your child?

So...black panther party supporting O' had a blog on Obama's campaign site...until...yesterday...when it was removed.

Why would he do that?

Is he not proud of his black panther support?

Be honest and leave it up...

In a way I hate the falling polls on Sen Obama simply because I hate to think that it might be an indication of the deep racism that still exists in society on both sides.

I wish he had handled this at the beginning of the campaign in a better way that educated people rather than polarizing them. My relationships have always been so good that I am always rather taken aback when the mutual ugliness rears its head.

My Dad says "G.D." a lot. Always has. Of course , my Dad has always said a lot of things. I grew up thinking that anytime I would fall down , I was gonna break my ass. Perhaps that was because all I ever heard was "You're gonna fall and break your ass if you keep doing that!" I am now off work until Monday night.

Patsi for President!
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/03/obama-vs-florida-and-michigan.html#comment-55344

JennBe, Li'l Pogo occasionally uses the foul language I've taught him, and I actually used to be a sailor. I always chuckle inwardly when I tell him that he can't talk like that - considering where he learned it. I'm certain he must be confused abou t Jesus' middle name. LOL

Just heard the replay of Prof Debra Dickerson's appearance on Imus yesterday.

Her thesis is that black people who hold out the positive in their black religiosity must also accept responsibility for the trash talk coming from black pulpits. Is she right, is she right!

Why is MSNBC more worried about where Hillary Clinton was while Big Dog was behaving badly than they are about the whole issue of the impact of leadership and race in America?

They can broadcast some crime documentary every night, but they miss an opportunity to be of real benefit to the U.S. with in depth coverage of a major issue that impacts daily life.

i have to blame the DNC for all this hate ....the primary system they have is a horror story ... all these months of campaigning ...and strippimg the the fourth and eighth largest states of their delagates.... .caucus's where 2 percent of voters pick the winner.....open primaries where outsiders can pick the winner.......super delagates where the winner is picked for political reasons...proportional distribution of delagates ....this set up is geared for no one to win 2025 delagates ....HRC wins 3 states obama wins one state and she only gains 7 delagates....what kind of genius came up with this math .....the more candidates are on the road the more they have to attack to try to separate themselves ...the more their electorate gets hateful and start saying things that are outrageous...15 months and still going ...thay cant keep saying the same thing so they resort to throwing things against the wall to see what sticks.....DNC created this mess and deserve to be laughed at....maybe this should go to the convention and tear this dem party apart so it can be rebuilt with some sanity and common sense

Ping...

This has been bothering me for awhile...You keep promoting Ken doll (I mean Romney) as VP. Have you not listened to the man!?! He may know something about money...how to get and keep lots of it...but, if his mouth is open, he's pandering to someone. Even among politicians, I've rarely seen anyone so obvious about changing his views to match those of the voter in front of him. Please explain to me why you like him so much....

Tell me, someone, anyone, what possible relevance Hillary's whereabouts when Bill was getting blown by Monica could have if her whereabouts were anywhere other than in the room with Bill and Monica? Please - anyone???

Putney Swope speaking of ancient references and talking about spinning...how ironic.

Why only last week Obama told us he will go along with withever the DNC decides.

Kind of like when he told the voters in Florida he would seat the delegation. He must whisper the rest of the sentence which always is unless of course it hurts my chances of winning.,

As for going through the Clinton papers, looks like the media is just another bunch of panty sniffers.

When I saw Obama using the word about his judgement over the war 5 years ago is getting stale, especially when he hasn't shown his judgment over his despicable rev. and coming forth a year later after lying about Rezko. I think his signature word JUDGEMENT no longer holds any water in his bucket now filled with holes. I am from Florida and I agree with joe as do many others about not seating the fla. delegates. Rules are made to be broken at least in Fla where the circumstances are fairer than MIchigan, although Michigan should come to some resolution because it is not fair to their voters. Obama is being very UNAMERICAN for not wanting to help seat these votes just for his own political gain, when in turn he may be digging his own political gain. I was planning on voting for Obama if Hillary was not nominated but now I am having second thoughts. He is not the person I thought he was, and I am a latter drinker with a large income.
And if blacks stay home if Hillary should get the nomination then they are hypocrits and not true democrats would they rather have McCain look out for their best interests. The blacks should also stop trashing the Clintons who did so much for the black community just because Obama came along. I understand their allegiance toward them but get real. Also explain to me what Obama has done for Katrina victims I haven't heard anything publically. Bill Clinton has raised so much money with his own foundation, His foundation with George SR. and his work with Brad Pitt and the black community wants to trash him. GET REAL.
Also joe tell Mika to grow up she's such a baby when she whines to you and Willie about not talking about certain issues, or that's not nice, or puts down a newspaper with a hooker on it. This an adult morning show we can take it.
I used to like Mika but she's obviously in the tank for Obama I think her being on the show is a conflict of interest considering all her family members are working with McCain or Obama.
Thanks Craig for letting me say all this about Joe's program which I love especially when your on to give fair views. Love your style!!!

Mika's "daddy" is just another run-of-the-mill old fart misogynist. Comparing Senator Clinton to Mamie "cocktail hour" Eisenhower? Give me an effin' break! MSNBC has become ObamaNBC, all Clinton hate, all the time. Off my DVR...forever.

ps
"There are valid worries about seating Michigan's and Florida's delegates but Hillary only voiced her concerns about them when it became apparent that she would need their delegates' votes to win the nomination. She didn't care or voice her opinions before this need."

that makes you Putney a big fat liar. Clinton all along said the states votes should count..

dog...
you forgot to mention the 5th anniversary of the Iraq war....

I watched some of the Cooper/Obama interview on CNN last night....

I know the Obama stuff just broke out.... but.... it should have been put aside for a day and the Iraq war should have been put front and center by the media yesterday.... the fact that it wasn't..... says all we need to know about the sad state of our media, IMO....

HOUSEKEEPING -- i am fiddling with our Blogroll page.

Anyone with blogs who are not yet on the list and would like to be added, send email with link and title to cqtrailmix@verizon.net

Likewise for any changes or deletions.

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So you think Obama has a "religious problem?"

Hillary is part of a secretive fundamentalist Christian organization known as "The Family."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barbara-ehrenreich/hillarys-nasty-pastorate_b_92361.html

There have always been two wings of the Democratic party: the people who protested in the streets of Chicago in 1968, and the Mayor Daley wing of the party, who beat the protestors with clubs.

Guess which wing Hillary belongs to.

Top of the morning and happy first day of Spring.

Wow, msnbc actually admitted that Hillary is in lead in a major amount.. Talk your tongue out Hillary, let them have it with both barrels, positive talk and we will win Pa and all the other 9 states after and lookout Obama we are on your tail and we will win this primary.

CQ had article re: Hagel thinks there should be a 3rd party. I thought he and Bloomberg decided they could not beat the the two party system.

If Obama does not ok Michigan today and let it go ahead and vote, he is really defeating himself. Where is Dean leadership? Think his brain has slipped from its usual residing place.

Isn't it nice not to have the Obamanauts calling us names. However I notice they are lurking..

Hillary like Mamie...geez even with all her hair styles
I don't think she ever had bangs.

Hillary like Mamie...geez even with all her hair styles
I don't think she ever had bangs.

The Wall Street Journal, of course, immediately ran to Hillary's papers to find out where she was when Vince Foster died. Those a-holes just amaze me. Here's something Paul Krugman mentioned about the WSJ op/ed crowd a while back:

"In June 1993, the editorial page singled out Vincent Foster, deputy White House counsel and a former law partner of then-First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, with a headline "Who Is Vincent Foster?" Other editorials about Foster and his role in the Clinton White House followed. On July 20, 1993, Foster killed himself. A note later found in his briefcase said, "The WSJ editors lie without consequence."

The editorial page later published six books compiling its investigative commentary into the Clinton's Whitewater land investments and the Clinton presidency.

Craig my friend... how much I love reading your comments, or watching them -- even when I don't always agree.

Some of the Obama supporters say that not seating a Michigan and Florida delegation will have no effect on those states in the general election... in other words, they will still vote Democratic. Home pride is a touchy issue, and if you say "all the dems from everywhere except Michigan or Florida can cast their preferences for the Democratic nominee," well you might as well stand in line for 4 more years of Republican mis-rule.

Also, it seems rather ingenious for Obama to be the "new type of politics" symbol when he is as calculating and playing the "politics as usual" game as he has accused his opponent.

Pity. It really is true that you can never count Democrats out from pulling defeat from the arms of victory.

kc, RFLMFAO re: your 10:28

Now be fair - he said he's do right by the FL voters - only I'm betting that his idea of doing right by them differs from their idea.

Heather:

I am no left-wing liberal nut. In fact, Patsi has even accused me of being a Republican for some of the things that come out of my mouth (so to speak).

I am a realist - and although I am an eternal optimist - I am also very prgamatic.

Finally, Obama supporters are not calling for HRC to step aside because he is the messiah - we are doing so because Obama is winning this primary race that has lasted much longer than anyone expected. The candidate's have got their message out their - and Obama has won more states, delegates and votes.

At the point, both candidates are just doing the GOP's dirty work. The only people now that hope it goes to the Convention are HRC supporters and the GOP.

everybody still talking about the SPEECH ' the most important speech in the history of mankind
jesus'' the sermon on the mount''that was so yesterday
lincoln 's gettysburg address
winston churchhill'' FDR''' JFK''MLK
all amateurs'' rookies
'barack the great' has spoken
Posted by: mqw | March 20, 2008 8:14 AM

Yes I felt the earth move under my feet as he spoke. For a moment I thought it was time for the Rapture. PRAISE THE LORD!

I thought that same thing Jack.

Perhaps to keep some of the fighting under control. It is hard to really get into it with someone with a two-minute delay. By that time - reason usually sets in.

"At the point, both candidates are just doing the GOP's dirty work. The only people now that hope it goes to the Convention are HRC supporters and the GOP." warren

If you add those two groups together : HRC & GOP you get a "majority"

Posted by: warren | March 20, 2008 10:59 AM

According to your bullsh-t analysis of the race
the Patriots won the superbowl.

You claims to know football. Another area where you sorely lack facts.

Here's a good site to check out Senate races:

http://politicalrealm.blogspot.com/2008/03/senate-watch-news-notes.html

As a FL Democrat I am embarassed? Our DNC is a joke. The FL Repubs that created the Jan vote that's being disputed are laughing at us. BO will never let FL be seated. Dems are snatching defeat from the jaws of victory in November. I will be glad when Howard, Harry and Nancy go away. All 3 are jokes.

YAY!! Brian's back!!! 8~D

Posted by: LushIsLinda | March 20, 2008 9:50 AM

"That's just the way it is... some things will never change..."

That was a short absence.

Warren posted: " In fact, Patsi has even accused me of being a Republican"

ROFL....I did indeed, didn't I?

No, Heather, Warren's not in either the left or right wing of nuts. Misguided, though....Hillary shouldn't drop out. This is a close race.

Paul Scofield has passed away.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/20/europe/obits.php

Great actor and star of one of my favorite movies, A Man For All Seasons

Tell me, someone, anyone, what possible relevance Hillary's whereabouts when Bill was getting blown by Monica could have if her whereabouts were anywhere other than in the room with Bill and Monica? Please - anyone???

Posted by: pogo bin agogo | March 20, 2008 10:22 AM

I guess it's only relevant if it was a three-way with her participating. Even then... different strokes I say....

Hi Craig et al,

Just want to point out that Obama is NOT the only thing that stands between Florida and Michigan and a re-vote.

In Florida the state board of elections refuses to certify signatures so the mail-in idea is off the table.

In Michigan, the state senate would have to approve the re-vote by a two-thirds majority and it is controlled by Republicans who have publicly opposed it. In a straw poll of state senators, the plan garnered only a handful of positive votes, nowhere near a majority, much less a super-majority.

To my way of thinking, this is just a nice piece of spin run by the very effective Clinton campaign to make a virtue of necessity. The obstacles are so great that no revote is likely in either state so the second-best outcome is to make it look as if Obama is to blame.

Nifty work by the press team at Clinton HQ.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/black_guy_asks_nation_for_change

KGC:

Clinton had a bad quote - before the primaries got started - about FL and MI not counting. KO used it last night - but I can't find it on the internet (I think it is a Clinton conspiracy to hide negative news about her).

Anyways, the point is - she made no arguments about disenfranchisement - until it became clear - she would not have a chance unless there is a re-vote.

Just because it is politically convenient to be on the "popular" side of this argument - does not make her a saint. If the delegate count was reveresed - and HRC was winning - the two candidates would be on opposite sides of this debate.

Please, anon, get the name of the offending network right. It's MSNGobama. LOL

Nash,

So Nash, is that the Baby Seal wing of the party that got clubbed in Chicago?

Actually there is probably a lesson from Chicago, which if remembered might help avoid riots in the streets of Denver and probably alot of other inner cities. Dr. Dean have you read your history books?

My youngest is six and my oldest is 8. They've both dropped quite a few F bombs in their few years that can be traced back to me, LOL, my cuss word of choice. I just find it very odd how freely the reporters and analysts are throwing G.D. around on TV. I'm not a perfect mother but I do try to teach them not to cuss in public or directly at someone. I did not go to church often as a child but I did get mouth washed out with soap when I dropped a G. D. That's all!

Nash

"Guess which wing Hillary belongs to"

Since you are obviously privileged to know the inner workings of her mind, why don't you tell us.

Of course her own words in 1969 might just shed more light on the subject

http://www.wellesley.edu/PublicAffairs/Commencement/1969/053169hillary.html

NYTimes today: Clinton Facing Narrower Path to Nomination:

...It is in the interest of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign to portray the contest as being highly competitive. Her campaign is intent on combating Mr. Obama’s efforts to pick off superdelegates. And it is increasingly concerned that any sign that the window is closing could lead a Democrat like Al Gore or Speaker Nancy Pelosi to step in and urge Democrats to back Mr. Obama in the interest of unity.

In truth [NYT reporter's words!! -- dog], in interviews, Mrs. Clinton’s advisers said that task was tough and growing tougher and that the critical questions were what would happen with Florida and Michigan and the possibility of developments involving Mr. Obama’s relationship with his spiritual adviser, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.

The fight over Florida and Michigan is just partly about delegates. Victories in new primaries in those states are among the only realistic ways for Mrs. Clinton to erase Mr. Obama’s advantage in the total popular vote.

....Mrs. Clinton’s advisers said they had spent recent days making the case to wavering superdelegates that Mr. Obama’s association with Mr. Wright would doom their party in the general election.

That argument could be Mrs. Clinton’s last hope for winning this contest.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/20/us/politics/20memo.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1206025737-VYHEKwMUqKoVtetblCD5Jg

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Hillary may get some spin out this newscycle, but it's a long time until Pennsylvania -- which was always going to be tough for BHO, given demographics (a state with large % older and struggling working class people -- economic uncertainty and racial concerns an issue there).

Need to see actual fallout of Wright issue. A certain number of voters would never vote for BHO or HRC. Her negatives in general are still likely to remain higher.

The Shrubians have started using the phrase
"moral hazard" in dealing with the financial crisis and gov't bailouts. Of all the bumpersticker phrases they have tried to pawn off this is the most ridiculous and insulting. The entire Shrub administration is a moral and toxic hazard,

Of course Clinton supporters swamped MSNBC with emails and letters when they felt MSNBC was being sexist to HRC.

But NOW - they claim Joe S. and Pat B. are spot on with their analysis when they are overtly playing the race card against Obama.

Politics is politics, huh....

I need to get some work done.

Play nice...(oh forget it).

bill, WADR, failing to press the DNC, FL & MI party leaders to have a revote or do whatever is necessary to have the votes of FL & MI voters count in the dem primary is the issue - not whether Obama is preventing it. The spin is from the Obama camp by recasting criticism of the Messiah for not demanding that the DNC, FL & MI correct the problems and assure that the voters in those states have their voices heard in the process. Instead of taking a principled stand in favor of or opposed to finding a solution, Obama's camp is niggling over proposed details to avoid IMHO being pinned down and tarred with his opposition to the democratic process. Whether I am right or wrong, Obama is, as Craig said, a "frontrunner who is seemingly afraid to allow re-votes in Michigan and Florida. Or at least that is how Barack Obama is allowing it to appear."

Whether he is actually all that stands in the way of a re-vote is another issue, and I think Craig may not be accurate about that - but then again, I know a lot less than he does about the mechanics of the process in either of those states.

"Obama supporters are not calling for HRC to step aside because he is the messiah - we are doing so because Obama is winning this primary race that has lasted much longer than anyone expected. "
--warren

You can't be serious!! Since when does a race/game end when a certain person/team takes the lead?

Now, I know you are a lawyer and I am only about as sharp as a marble...but, thinking back to every race I have ever seen, in my life...I am pretty sure that the winner always had to cross the finish line.

And as far as this race going on longer than anyone "expected"...with that reasoning, BHO should never have even entered the race, since so many people "expected" HRC to win the nomination.

I could be wrong, but I'll bet JSMc is glad that he did not drop out of the Republican race, when everyone thought he could not win.

"Moral hazard". Thanks for head's up, KGC.

And the biggest one of all would be some system of national healthcare. So people like CBob could blog happily and in better health until too old to care.

Please provide more examples of "moral hazard" when you see them. That is a public service.

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Looks like C List time lapse is down to about 5-7 minutes. An improving trend.

"Her negatives in general are still likely to remain higher."

You cannot back this statement up .

Obama's negatives are higher now. Clinton's have gone down as she has campaigned.

Nash

If you are going to post Barbara EHrenreich as a source on Senator Clinton, you should probably include the following from her Wiki bio

"Ehrenreich is currently an honorary co-chair of the Democratic Socialists of America. She also serves on the NORML Board of Directors.

In February 2008, Ehrenreich expressed support for Senator Barack Obama in the 2008 U.S. presidential campaign, writing in her blog:

There’s no mystery about the direction in which Obama might take us: He’s written a breathtakingly honest autobiography; he has a long legislative history, and now, a meaty economic program. // We, perhaps white people especially, look to him for atonement and redemption. All of us, of whatever race, want a fresh start. That's what "change" means right now: Get us out of here!"

Hillary's IN round table being streamed live on the CNN Web site is really great -

This is the kind of thing Warren likes - sitting down with real people and listening to them. Isn't that what you said Obama would do Warren-he's off giving yet another speech and she's the one doing the listening...you should tune in

:-D

Nash! Great to see you! Please email Brian at bgarens@gmail.com.

We are putting together an email list of near and dear C Listers so those who are quitting their lurking habit can still remain in touch with each other.

I refuse to cede this blog to Obama bashers, so am developing a thicker skin. (Plus, got to support Warren.)

But others are taking a time out.

Pogo: "Frog choking rain." Love that phrase, although hope frogs do not choke in real life. (Wasn't that something turkeys were rumored to do?)

It's dry and sunny but really windy here in DC metro area.

"Barack Obama has the same number who will definitely vote for him--34%. But, more people are committed to voting against him than McCain. Forty-three percent (43%) say they will definitely reject him at the ballot box. For 18%, their support depends on his opponent"

Obama's negatives are up to 51%, even after the pass he's been given by the press. Clinton is at 50%, but that's after 15 years of scrutiny and the worst coverage of the primary season. Edwards, who has been virtually ignored by the press for months, has the lowest negatives of the top three Dems:

McCain Favorable: 53 Unfavorable: 27 Edwards Favorable: 49 Unfavorable: 42 Clinton Favorable: 48 Unfavorable: 50 Obama Favorable: 43 Unfavorable: 51 Thompson Favorable: 42 Favorable: 42 Giuliani Favorable: 40 Unfavorable: 55 Huckabee Favorable: 40 Unfavorable: 47 Romney Favorable: 38 Unfavorable: 51

Based on the argument, Obama is the one who should get out. As people get to know him, his unfavorable goes up. Just the opposite for Clinton,.

"The first poll out of WV for the nomination, Rasmussen shows Clinton with a 55-27 percent lead over Obama."

Yes, KC, it scertainly would be a moral hazard for the government to fail to guarantee the Bear Stearns buyout. Puhlease!!! And of course, I am speculating - but I would bet that the buyout of BS will not keep foreclosures from happening.

Anyone notice that gold and oil prices have dropped 10% and that the market is up today? Its like a friggin' Pogo stick. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

I love this poem
It's about keeping a positive attitude...

If you think you are beaten you are;
If you think you dare not, you don't;
If you want to win but think you can't;
It's almost a cinch you won't.

If you think you'll lose you're lost;
For out of the world we find
Success begins with a fellow's will;
It's all in a state of mind.

Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger and faster man,
But sooner or later the man who wins
Is the man who thinks he can.

-- Author Unknown

HILLARY '08!!

Look at that - Clinton saying..."let's just open it up to everyone in the room for questions"

Now that's a woman who is not afraid to listen to the American people and answer their questions.

LushisLinda:

Romney stepped aside early. Even though he knew he could have fought on - and sought to take McCain out - and possibly end up as the nominee.

But Mitt stepped aside for the good of the party. A foreign concept to the Clintons.

I am planning on joining the secret C-list Obama group
I think they will need my help and experience.

C'mon Wendy. You know Obama does roundtables as well.

I have no problem with you making HRC's case - but please quit with the misinformation.

"And the biggest one of all would be some system of national healthcare. So people like CBob could blog happily and in better health until too old to care"

No kidding. Has anyone heard from CBob lately?

You guys, it's still a really long time until Pennsylvania. Polling might show a snapshot of varying accuracy, but there is lots and lots of time.

There will be plenty of time for roundtables and town halls and all sorts of campaign events.

Hillary does shine in roundtables. So am glad you are enjoying watching that.

We are putting together an email list of near and dear C Listers so those who are quitting their lurking habit can still remain in touch with each other.

I refuse to cede this blog to Obama bashers, so am developing a thicker skin. (Plus, got to support Warren.)

But others are taking a time out.

Posted by: dog hussein dog | March 20, 2008 11:40 AM

The biggest "basher" on this blog is and has been Brian Arens, so I find your comment extremely odd. Personally I am glad that chat bully has left, and may he find his own Nirvana at Bgarens @ wherever dot com.

Notice Sen Clinton is doing the Indiana appearance with Evan Bayh. If she gets the nomination and Obama won't go for the VP slot, then you are probably looking at the Democratic team.

Wendy!, That WV poll was Rasmussen?

Handy guide to Hillary Clinton's agreeing that Michigan and Florida votes will not count.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5169900

Blog article about Hillary's statement about votes not counting.

http://halfricanrevolution.blogspot.com/2008/03/it-is-time-for-hillary-to-drop-nonsense.html

I will post the link for the actual words spoke by Hillary stating the votes would not count. in the next comment.

Yes - I know - Rasmussen sucks...but it's a good indicator of what's going on...I know we should wait for SurveyUSA to see what the real numbers are.

Warren:

When was his last round table where he opened it up to people in the room...have any YouTube video you can throw this way...I'm sure everyone on the list would like to see it.

Actual audio clip about votes not counting by Hillary.

http://www.jabberwonk.com/flinker.cfm?cliid=zydzt

warren, not everyone has such admiration for Romney or his motives.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2008/02/romney_and_son.cfm

Brian did not drive the Obama supporters away. EuroTom: You will see the logic there.

It's the tone of this blog and all the whining about being bashed by Obama supporters -- when there just ain't much of that actually going on on this blog. That is perceived reality by many of you, not reality itself.

This has become an alternate universe where anything Hillary says is golden. So revel in it.

And I do check in when I can because, politics aside, I really like a lot of the people here and love to see what you're up to.

Even though I gotta start wearing my anti-tooth grinding device when doing so.

What I find interesting is that Clinton supporters leave blogs because they are being attacked, harassed and threatened.

Obama supporters leave blogs because Clinton supporters won't agree with them about how wonderful Obama is

Very interesting.

I admire the Obama supporters - like Warren - who stay in the conversation.

Bayh is a tool and if she finds a way to pull this thing out - and picks that boring out-of-touch white dude - Hello President John McCain. What country shall we invade next Commander?

You really do need me.

As Clinton lengthens Pennsylvania lead, candidates head elsewhere
by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor March 20, 2008 09:51 AM
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/03/as_clinton_leng.html

Join me in the Indiana dunes and we will wait for our next chance to win.

"Romney stepped aside early. Even though he knew he could have fought on - and sought to take McCain out - and possibly end up as the nominee."
--warren

hmmmmm....let me think....I can honestly say I did not pay much attention to the Romney/McCain race.

Correct me, if I am wrong...but I thought Romney dropped out of the race because, mathmatically, there was no way he could win the nomination...no?

You know, if Romney had a chance win the nomination and he chose to drop out...well then I would like to make him an honorary member of the "Sharp Marbles Club". 8~D

I am not going anywhere. Someone needs to keep you Clintonites in line...

The only people on this blog whining about other people's posts are Obama supporters.

A constant stream of wanting a nanny to supervise and censor all comments. Threats of leaving the blog.

How can we miss you if you won't go away?

AP

She signed the pledge to "not campaign" in the state and to "adhere to the DNC calendar". None of the candidates "officially" campaigned in the two states though Obama ads ran in Florida and they both held "fund raisers" and had workers on the ground registering people etc.

Not campaigning is not the same as saying, "The votes shouldn't count". Both Senator Obama and Senator Clinton initially said that some way should be found to seat the Florida and Michigan delegates and count their votes.

The two conditions should not be conflated.

That is a good quote anon.

HRC:

"It's clear, these elections they're having are not going to count for anything."

(unless of course I need them to win - then I will strong-arm and divide the Democratic party, my supporters will throw Dean under the bus, and me and the GOP will use this issue to make Obama look bad - and I will have it my way - or else....)

Holy Disenfranchisement Batman!!

Obama is in Portland tomorrow at the Memorial Coliseum. You had to purchase tickets to attend. I've been attending political rallies since 1960 with JFK. I've neer had to buy a ticket to attend a rally. Is this done often??

There is a big swing to Hillary in several states including North Carolina and West Virginia..At this time the tide is turning. This is quite an election year. Who knows what will happen next???

Dog

Brian often used terms like stupid or idiot when addressing people on this blogs.

Karolenna uses "bitch" when talking about Hillary - never mentions her name. What if I started using "jerk" "ass hole" "liar" or some term like that instead of Obama's name to describe him - I'd think you guys would be pretty upset.

Both have played loose with people's names in order to make personal digs at them.

If there is a negative tone to the blog - it is in using these terms to address people on this blog - I have to agree with ET on that.

I like this blog because these incidents are pretty isolated to one or two people that can easily be skipped over.

I admire the Obama supporters - like Warren - who stay in the conversation.
Posted by: Wendy! | March 20, 2008 12:09 PM

On this I agree !!! I didn't like Warren at first, but he really grows on you... :-)

And Dog, I think you're really decent and a dialoging person. I don't know about your choice of a particular friend, but each her/his own.

Cheers

When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends.
Japanese Proverb

Dog

"It's the tone of this blog and all the whining about being bashed by Obama supporters -- when there just ain't much of that actually going on on this blog. That is perceived reality by many of you, not reality itself."

Would you like me to post every name Brian called me including two ocassions of 'racist". The majority of his messages were not conversation they were name calling with the least objectionable being "stupid".

The other Obama supporters were passionate but they weren't cruel and viscious. There is a difference.

"I am not going anywhere. Someone needs to keep you Clintonites in line..."

ROFL

Warren

Do you honestly think Evan Bayh is a borin old white guy?

He has done well by Indiana and seems a very likeable guy. Don't think we know enough about him really.

One positive thing about Hillary. She said back in the Iowa contest that she would not promise to do something that someone wanted her to promise to.
She responded that when you promise something in the primary, you must live up to it when you get to the White House.. She will live up to her promises, and will get the troops out of Iraq, just as she said.
I for one do not think she would go to war over just any thing or whim like shrub - or like you implied on your post. Do you honest to goodness believe that?
Now Obama is another matter, he might do just as you are accusing Hillary.

Thanks ET. That is my M.O.

You are not the first person to think I am a total insufferable bastard when they first meet me. Often an unfortunate result of saying what you really think...

Patsi

"No kidding. Has anyone heard from CBob lately?"

There have been a couple of times when a "Bob Chapman" has posted, but we have no way of knowing if that was someone's bad taste or if it was really him.

There have been no postings to his Newsvine or blog sites since November nor any email communication. All messages to his email bounce. Our fears are that he is too ill to write or may have passed away.

If anyone knows anything definite, I would really like to hear.

LushLinda,

good job on the proverb....

Linda:

Romney was ahead of the Huck when he dropped out. He was nowhere close to being mathematically eliminated. Again, it was for the good of the party.

I always admire the GOP for their loyalty to the party and their superior organizational skills.

The Dems could learn a thing or two from them (and Obama has!!).

Geta Life:

We whine about misinformation and unfair attacks - which are often spewed by rapid Clintonites.

Keep in mind - most blogs are pro-Obama - and this place is the exception - not the norm....

Warren

Shock and surprise, I agree with you about Evan Bayh. Most people aren't aware that he is the Democratic version of Dan Quayle, and he sure wants the job.

My first choice would be Sen Obama or lacking that Governor Richardson or Sen. Edwards. All three have wonderful positives for a national campaign.