Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Good Moring Craig, All

I totally agree With your post I just have this awful gut feeling nothing will be resolved.

Joe Scarborough is posting interesting polls on Morning Joe and last night's comments on Race to the White House With David Gregory.

Seems like the messiah Obama's support is crumbling.

Shhhhhh don't tell Warren he's still living a denial Obama can win. lol

Sincerely
Heather

If the MI and FL delegate mess isn't solved and solved properly, we are toast in November.

"A Democratic national convention without Florida and Michigan suggests the need for an Electoral College strategy that contemplates victory without either state in the party’s November tally."

Considering the current unfavorable news cycle, that seems unlikely.

Thank you Dem Party,

For Real McChange with true leadership
McCain/Romney 08 is the best and winning ticket.

And we care about Fl and MI

It may be more beneficial for Hillary to have Fla & MI as talking points for the fabric of her Big States, Electoral-weight pitch to Super-delegates. Whereas actual re-do's at this point would not overcome his advantages (especially given a two-person field), Obama is aiding and abetting that story-line by being perceived as opposing them. Hillary can now add to her pitch that only she can provide the way out of this mess of our own making: Choose her as the nominee and all is resolved by welcoming them with open arms. Choose him without counting Fla and MI and you wronfully deny her candidacy.

Why must the sanction be to not count the votes? As I asked before is this the only solution the (I called him pea brain) Dean and the Dems can come up with....

The Obama wave has peaked, could rebuild but lets see.

As near as I can see this entire primary cluster f***, here's where we stand as a party. Our candidate has been chosen largely by independents and Reagan Democrats, voting in red states that we cannot possibly win in November, cheerleaded in by a press core wanting "an historic race" and shrugging off the possibility of a female president as chopped liver.

To achieve this, the best president America has had in the last 50 years has been demonized as a racist and marginalized as a "triangulator" by a candidate who is running on the concept of triangulating.

And I offer this article:
http://www.correntewire.com/triangulation_the_next_generation

The female candidate, of course, is being jeered at by a few East Coast chatterers because in a race that is damn neara tie, she refused to lay down and be mugged.

And while some are salivating over the hopes that states like Idaho and Kansas voted for our presumptive nominee, the Democratic party shoots the bird to Michigan and Florida.

Just dandy.

You can thank the Senate Democrats in Michigan for no do over there.

"The Senate Dems just had a long caucus meeting following their long phone call with the Gang of Four [as Carl Levin and others pushing a re-vote are called], and the result is that no one moved. Votes aren't there. Thus, it will not go to a vote in the Senate. And barring some other last minute miracle that doesn't involve those four, the governor and Hillary traveling to Michigan, it is dead as a doornail."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/Doover_is_dead.html

Plus there was a letter sent out where another Michigan office holder said that holding another Primary in June would put it right in the middle of two other election races.

But its easier to blame Obama isn't it?

Michigan was a Caucus and Obama wants to make sure that Republicans that voted in the Republican Primary don't vote again. However, those who voted in the Democratic Caucus should be allowed to vote, just not those who did not.

Don't worry Heather - I don't freak out and over-react to every poll I see (don't we always complain about the media for doing that).

But I must admit - it is frustrating to hear Joe S. (all morning long) stoking the coals of racial tension - but hey - he is just doing his job.

I doubt that Obama's speech the other day is going to get the same play as the repetition of the sound bites from Rev. wright. It just won't have the same impact as a crazy sounding preacher screaming hate.

It kind of reminds me of when I used to go to NYC to visit my brother, and there was this group that had taken over Times Square. They stood there at attention while their leader screamed racist hate into a portable megaphone at the people passing by. Those pedestrians just put their heads down and hurried by. It seems like it was easier for the city and cops to just pretend these people weren't there rather than put an end to that crap. When Rudy became mayor, these people were no longer welcome there.

Patsi:

The sky is not falling. It is only March for godsakes. I am still focused on this primary race and ending this thing before turning to the general.

I have my reasons for thinking Obama will do well in November. And I am not going to let some polls or the Republican Attack Machine dissuade me.

btw, good morning all!

If a candidate wins a lot of little states but loses the big states does that mean anything. What messages are the voters sending out. So far the voters are not sure who they want. Look how close the popular vote is. With or without FL since both were on the ballot.

James Rubin - Clinton Foreign Policy - advisor is starting to sound more like me and Obama on Morning Joe. No much talk of the ole 60-day deadline.

Unfortunately he slipped up saying - well Gen. Patreus is scheduled to be removed from Iraq by Jan 09 - a subtle way to discount him. Bad move. Patreus specializes in counter-insurgency - and even if he is not in charge - his policies will be alive and well in the military. Trying to push him off to the side is unwise.

The Dems are going to need to get the military buy-in to appear credible for the general.

I really recommend trying to catch that last night's Charlie Rose on Iraq - it was enlightening.

I can't believe that no Michigan and/or Florida revote is all Obama's fault. I'm sure there's plenty of squabbling in each state's legislature going around...
not to mention the still unsolved problem of who's going to pay for a redo....

but as we've discussed many times..... perception in politics is everything.
If it remains that Michigan and Florida don't have their delegates seated at the convention and it is perceived to be because of Obama.... it will not bode well for the Democratic party in November.....

this will come back to bite him in the butt......
just like the race baiting has now done to him.....
if he'd only stated after NH that the good people of my state made a different choice and race had nothing to do with it as the media was trying to make out,
I don't think he'd be in as much of a mess as he's in today.....

the sky is not falling
obama is' and he does'nt have a parachute

If the Florida Democrat Party really wants to get the DNC's attention, they should start working to get both Hillary and Obama qualified as a write-in candidates on the November ballot. That way, if either one is nominated without input from Florida Democrats, Florida Democrats will have another chance to make their choice formally known in November.

That ought to scare the hell out of Howard Dean.

everybody still talking about the SPEECH ' the most important speech in the history of mankind
jesus'' the sermon on the mount''that was so yesterday
lincoln 's gettysburg address
winston churchhill'' FDR''' JFK''MLK
all amateurs'' rookies
'barack the great' has spoken

being happy when the primary season is over and a candidate is finally chosen is somewhat akin to "I'll be happy when this alzheimer's goes away".

Thus spake Sturgathustra.

being happy when this primary season is over and a nominee is finally chosen is somewhat akin to saying "I'll be happy when this alzheimer's goes away."

Thus spake Sturgeathustra.

Consensus was Obama folks liked Obamanauts (thanks Lardass -- great suggestion and underlying meaning), with votes for Obamamaniacs and Obamamamas and Obamapapas.

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Caught 5 mins. of Morning Joe today before hitting the remote. All the doom and gloom about the polls for Obama.

Boys and girls: did anything besides Rev. Wright video clips and the resulting Obama speech happen within the last week?

Like maybe the collapse of Bear Stearns and Carlyle Capital and red flags galore on the economy?

I think a lot of the polling is working class Dems' anxiety over the economy, and that might portend a look at HRC's "experience" again. Bring on those White House records.
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On the bright side: happy first day of Spring, y'all.

(submitting this about 8:31 a)

Got up late so I've only been watching MoJo for a half hour. I love John Ridley. Even if he is an Obama supporter. That man talks more good sense in five minutes than MoJo utters in a month of programs. Even Mika doesn't giggle while he is speaking.

There are valid worries about seating Michigan's and Florida's delegates but Hillary only voiced her concerns about them when it became apparent that she would need their delegates' votes to win the nomination. She didn't care or voice her opinions before this need.

Obama is correct - let the DNC, not Hillary make the decision.

What we don't need is the 'spin du jour' from Hillary. I fear for Hillary's propaganda machine if she became president - this is what this country does NOT need. Send the monster back to the Senate - or better yet send her back to oblivion in Arkansas where she could be supported by Bill's anonymous library donors.

Come on dog, you are forgetting Governors Gone Wild up in Albany, NY

They may be getting another new one very soon, if the new guys affiars keep increasing in numbers. And I think this guy is a Hillary suppporter too.

WOW!! I can't believe how much Mika looks like her Dad!!! Dr. B. is like Mika in an age enhanced picture (without make-up).

Dear Warren:

LOL you are adorable in some ways, Joe was not stroking the coals of racist tension, I believe the Rev. Wright did that. Joe was trying to be a pragmatic realist in a polite way and very well thought out. Mika and Warren just cannot see the forest for the trees, they live in their while ivory tower liberal condo’s and assume the rest of the Democratic Party is as liberal as the are, wrong wrong wrong.

I feel vindicated, yesterday on the Britt Hume Special Report finally a pundit told the truth and said it eloquently, that pundit was Charles Krauthammer. He gave an award winning analysis on Obama's speech, he actually echoed what I posted here a few days earlier, Barack Obama is a repackaged version of Jessie Jackson with better oratory skills and a Harvard Law Degree.

Later today I will do a thorough analysis of Obama's speech and post it later.

If I were Obama supporters I would be afraid, very afraid. He most likely get the Democratic nomination and do what all extreme left wing radicals of our party do, crash and burn in the general election.

One day it is my hope the centrist pragmatic DLC majority wing will gain control from the minority liberal wing of our party that do nothing more then ruin it.

How many times must our party crash and burn with radical left wing nominees? Wake up... the Daily Kos crowd are ruining our party.

There was precious little that I agreed with Ronald Reagan with, but he had point that was less valid at the time he said it, but more so now "I did not leave the Democratic Party...The Democratic Party left me.

Obama will only lose the support he currently has now, just wait when he is in the general and he has to take positions on gun control, abortion, gay marriages, and has to defend his 1 trillion 10 year budget, his statement to raise taxes etc.

He already lost the White Jewish vote, the independent vote, the Reagan Democrats vote, the 25% of Hillary supporters that say they will vote McCain in the general and the 4% saying they will not vote in the general if he is nominated, the Nader factor, and once again look for the young vote to do what they do best and that is be no-shows in the general.

Congratulations extreme radical left wing liberals have cost us yet another presidency in an election year we should win.

As for all these Hillary haters that keep referring to the Clinton's as "bullies" I think a better word is tenacity or survivor I hardly think Hillary should step down for a coronation party for the messiah Obama simply because a minority faction of the Democratic Party that is overly vocal in their obsession of the messiah Obama.

Sincerely,
Heather

Mika's daddy is a fraud. Comparing HRC to "Mamie Eisenhower". I would like to point out that Mamie never even officially graduated from high school. As was common for the time period

Mamie attended Denver's public schools and, then, completed her education at Miss Wolcott's, a prestigious, private finish school for the daughters of prominent Denver families.

She married Ike at 20 and spent her life as a military wife never have a job outside of the home.

Somewhat apples and oranges.

the scary black man crap just keeps coming from the Republicans.
Now, the real racism is starting you don't have to imagine these.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0308/AntiObama_video_crafted_by_talk_radio_producer.html

Jack

So much for the 50 state strategy...more like a 48 state strategy.

"I fear for Hillary's propaganda machine if she became president - this is what this country does NOT need"

LOL
Another Republican wingnut

Jack

Ping Pong said:

"Thank you Dem Party,

For Real McChange with true leadership
McCain/Romney 08 is the best and winning ticket.

And we care about Fl and MI"

Ping Pong

LOL
Your enjoying this meltdown way too much:-)

Jack

This delay is deliberate isn't it?

Jack

""I'll be happy when this alzheimer's goes away"."

I think of it more as some sort of chronic disease that has a false elation followed by an uncomfortable, long treatment period from June to November.

Obama is unelectable - he should drop out. There is no way he can get away from Rev Wright. This video is an example of what Repubs would use against him and the Dem Party. They would say: "What kind of political party would nominate a man like this?" I've been warning about the Rev trouble - there is more "dirt" to be dumped on Obama. Dems never seem to learn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72B3tUAqpo4

"let the DNC, not Hillary make the decision"

This Democracy stuff is just so so messy.

how can the extreme left of the democratic party'' white liberal holier than thou ''college educated' people be so dense not too see what is going on with middle class working people'they will not vote for obama in november
how do these people even tie thier shoes in the morning

"Boys and girls: did anything besides Rev. Wright video clips and the resulting Obama speech happen within the last week?
"

Yep. Mika just announced that now she can check Hillary's records to see what she was doing while Bill was with Monica.

If it is then it is certainly a good way to ruin what has been a pleasant experience. The conversational give and take has been fun. Much better than other blogs where people just bore you with their dumbass opinions without ever bothering to listen.
Listening is what makes politics work in the long run. If all we do is jump up and down and scream our opinions and treat them as if they were handed down from God on high, then all we get is dead lock. At some point we have to listen to each other and realise that other people have a valid point of view.
Even if they do sound like the Reverend Wright and seem to be nut case crazy to our own provincial sensibilities.

end of sermon

Jack

mornin' all.

Man, talk about rain! We had frog choking rain here last night - I'm just glad I wasn't in Texas and hope that anyone here who is there or anyone who is dear to anyone here who happens to be there are fine.

I had lunch yesterday with a deeply republican colleague who claims that it is not Obama winning in little states, but Clinton who is winning big states because of Republican votes. Who know? I do tend to discount most of what he says politically - he's patently wrong more than he's right.

Renee, send me an e-mail at larry dot chafin at steptoe hyphen johnson dot com.

I didn't hear a word that Dr. B said, as I was on the phone and had the sound off...

Gordo, Who pays you to post this constant stream of stuff without actually carrying on a conversation?

Senator Obama missed a good bet because he tried to shove two speeches into one and then made that one speech in front of a bank of flags. It was just too loaded with symbolism.

He should have just invited people to a church service. Ridley said it all this morning. You can't understand the frustration and anger if you haven't lived the life. Conservative white people approve of "do it yourself" movements in the black community or when Bill Cosby says it, but then come unglued when they see "help yourself black centered" messages in a church mission statement.

Sure Wright is off the deep end. That doesn't mean the paranoia isn't real within his community. Sen Obama could have denied that message while giving respect to the people who have reason to believe it.
Instead he went all "post civil rights nobility".

Sometimes you just need to hold up a mirror and let people look at themselves and then say the time has come to stop this and we can only stop it together.

I still believe that the best possible ticket would be Clinton/Obama if they can set aside their differences. It is a winning ticket against anything Republicans could field and would lead to an Obama term.

Nielsen Online, Selected Web Sites — February 2008

Unique Visitors in Millions

19.0 NYTimes.com
12.3 ABCNEWS Digital Network
12.1 Google News
10.2 Fox News Digital Network
10.0 CBS News Digital Network
4.6 NPR
4.2 New York Post
4.1 NewsMax.com
3.7 TheHuffingtonPost.com
3.4 drudgereport.com
2.9 The Politico
2.8 Salon.com
2.2 Chicago Sun-Times
1.7 The Washington Times
1.2 Daily Kos
1.2 worldnetdaily.com
1.2 Townhall.com
1.0 NationalReview.com
1.0 Human Events Online

http://newsmax.com/insidecover/Newsmax_Web_traffic_soars/2008/03/19/81657.html

LL

It became an Obama campaign commercial...you didn't miss much.

Jack, you are making uncommonly good sense this morining - keep talking - I'm listening.

Heather so true. Gordo is right, that Obama will not be the next President. It isn't about Wright. It is about everything from caucuses, to Rezko, from Wright to just plain wrong about his taking tough positions. The Black Panthers were on Fox defending Obama and Wright last night. The Jewish vote will abandon Obama, Hispanics were never there. Soon the white male vote will defect. Florida and Michigan. Powers, Zbig and Malley. Now Meaks. Soon Auchi.

THe question is whether HIllary can win with Obama supporters stsaying at home. Yes We Can. I think there is a growing perception that pissing off the centrist and moderate Democrats will certainly bring defeat for Obama. He should do the Party some good and accept VP. That is about the only hope and change this primary needs from him. THe worst judgement he saved for thinking these problems would never surface and that he could talk his way into the White House.

He is the last person I would have negotiating with our enemies. Obama has managed to make Edwards, Richarson and Biden look good. Now I know why Democrats are for gun control. Accidental shootings would sky rocket.

Make that "Who KNows?" Sheesh.

Can you just IMAGINE if the situation was reversed and Hillary was in favor of disenfranchings millions of voters? The horror! The fodder! Oy!

Jack

From that article you posted "the U.S. Olympians who raised their hand in the black power salute"

Talk about living through history. Here is an article on that 1968 protest

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/summer-olympics-mexico-city.html

I live in San Jose when Lee Evans (not in the famous photo but still part of the protest) won his medal in Mexico City http://ibm.mtsac.edu/relays/HallFame/Evans.html

I also worked with his brother Dayton, one of the nicest human beings it has ever been my pleasure to know. Unfortunately Dayton lost his life in a drowining accident a few years later and Lee never went to the 1972 Olympics.

A good thing about the delay

I getting my taxes done instead of listening to all your nut case opinions ;-)

Jut got this in an email response to an online ad for a rental house, Thought I would share, lol, one thing I can say is they are honest folk.
"Anyway, we have had the same landlord for the last 6 years, but we have bad credit, that we are hoping will not hurt us in finding a nice place to rent. Our landlord did file eviction a year ago but it was taken care of and we were never evicted and have not had trouble before or since. We can not pay more than $650 a month, which is why the $600 on this place sounds really good"

You know there is a time to bring this up but I don't think an introductory email is one of them.

Jack

Thanks for the video, GORDO. I am sending it to all my friends, who are HRC supporters.

You know, if these clips of Jeremiah Wright represent what is being taught in "black" churches(behind closed doors), across the country...then it's no wonder why Americans can't get beyond the racial divide that exists, in our nation.

Bush approval level at new low, disapproval at new high.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/19/bush.poll/index.html

Duh.

This delay is making me crazy. How can you carry on a conversation with a time lag.

Did Claire McCaskill seriously say with a straight face that Barack Obama is the first black leader to come to the american people NOT AS A VICTIM BUT AS A LEADER?

Sooooooo......remember when Hillary Clinton said LBJ played an important role in signing the Civil Rights legislation and she was run out of town as a racist diminishing the role of Rev. MLK? What's going to happen to McCaskill on this one? Is she going to be run out of town or called a racist for diminishing Rev. MLKs leadership?

Wow...unbelievable...

http://videos.kansascity.com/vmix_hosted_apps/p/media?id=1779648

America will you please bring democracy to Michigan and Florida?

Good little video juxtaposing Olberman statements in regards to Clinton and Obama...shows him to be the hypocrite he is.

http://videos.kansascity.com/vmix_hosted_apps/p/media?id=1779648

Hi Craig,
Did you or anyone hear the Black Panther on HCombs last night? It was unreal.
I find it interesting that Obama has their endorsement and on his web site. Guess what it is no longer on there. GREAT JUDGMENT!!
He really needs to drop out if the Dem race wants to win in Nov.
As for Fl, and MI someone needs to decide and Obama needs to agree with MI for a revote.

Jack

ROFL

Good mornin' y'all!

After thinking entirely too much about the re-vote situation I've decided it should be a non-issue. Everyone knew the rules before hand and accepted it at the time. It's time for them to stand by the choices they made, man up, and live with the consequences.

My problem for today is that I'm tired of hearing G-- Da-- all over the TV. Didn't anyone teach these people on the news not take the Lord's name in vain. I'm going to have toturn the news off because my little one asked for some G. D. cereal for breakfast. LOL!

"the U.S. Olympians who raised their hand in the black power salute"

Jamie

I found the inclusion of that a little weird.
You have to be in your mid 50's to even remember that or think it will provoke a reaction.
I would like to be able to write them off as a bunch of old fart reactionary racist.

I'm out of here for the rest of the day. It is too nice and I need to wire a house before the sheetrockers can work.

Jack.

Jack

Never underestimate the Middle class American voter
Its ironic but credit hard working blue collar centrist Reagan Democrats they can tell and seperate the difference between McCain and Bush, Bush's approval at all time low, yet McCain's is reaching new highs.
This tells me the American voter is for more sophisticated and intelligent then arrogant journalists give them credit for.

They like me, realize that McCain s not a third term for Bush, He will govern independent of Bush policies except for Iraq. One some issues will will see McCain taking more centrist views inthe general election.

One more thing that bears mentioning is that dollars to dougnuts should Obama get nominated you will see a large migration of blue collar Reagan Democrats to becoming Independents or to the Republican party [sic] One more thing we can be grateful to the extreme left in our party for.

--Heather

my little one asked for some G. D. cereal for breakfast.
--JennBe

How old is your child?

So...black panther party supporting O' had a blog on Obama's campaign site...until...yesterday...when it was removed.

Why would he do that?

Is he not proud of his black panther support?

Be honest and leave it up...

In a way I hate the falling polls on Sen Obama simply because I hate to think that it might be an indication of the deep racism that still exists in society on both sides.

I wish he had handled this at the beginning of the campaign in a better way that educated people rather than polarizing them. My relationships have always been so good that I am always rather taken aback when the mutual ugliness rears its head.

My Dad says "G.D." a lot. Always has. Of course , my Dad has always said a lot of things. I grew up thinking that anytime I would fall down , I was gonna break my ass. Perhaps that was because all I ever heard was "You're gonna fall and break your ass if you keep doing that!" I am now off work until Monday night.

Patsi for President!
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/03/obama-vs-florida-and-michigan.html#comment-55344

JennBe, Li'l Pogo occasionally uses the foul language I've taught him, and I actually used to be a sailor. I always chuckle inwardly when I tell him that he can't talk like that - considering where he learned it. I'm certain he must be confused abou t Jesus' middle name. LOL

Just heard the replay of Prof Debra Dickerson's appearance on Imus yesterday.

Her thesis is that black people who hold out the positive in their black religiosity must also accept responsibility for the trash talk coming from black pulpits. Is she right, is she right!

Why is MSNBC more worried about where Hillary Clinton was while Big Dog was behaving badly than they are about the whole issue of the impact of leadership and race in America?

They can broadcast some crime documentary every night, but they miss an opportunity to be of real benefit to the U.S. with in depth coverage of a major issue that impacts daily life.

i have to blame the DNC for all this hate ....the primary system they have is a horror story ... all these months of campaigning ...and strippimg the the fourth and eighth largest states of their delagates.... .caucus's where 2 percent of voters pick the winner.....open primaries where outsiders can pick the winner.......super delagates where the winner is picked for political reasons...proportional distribution of delagates ....this set up is geared for no one to win 2025 delagates ....HRC wins 3 states obama wins one state and she only gains 7 delagates....what kind of genius came up with this math .....the more candidates are on the road the more they have to attack to try to separate themselves ...the more their electorate gets hateful and start saying things that are outrageous...15 months and still going ...thay cant keep saying the same thing so they resort to throwing things against the wall to see what sticks.....DNC created this mess and deserve to be laughed at....maybe this should go to the convention and tear this dem party apart so it can be rebuilt with some sanity and common sense

Ping...

This has been bothering me for awhile...You keep promoting Ken doll (I mean Romney) as VP. Have you not listened to the man!?! He may know something about money...how to get and keep lots of it...but, if his mouth is open, he's pandering to someone. Even among politicians, I've rarely seen anyone so obvious about changing his views to match those of the voter in front of him. Please explain to me why you like him so much....

Tell me, someone, anyone, what possible relevance Hillary's whereabouts when Bill was getting blown by Monica could have if her whereabouts were anywhere other than in the room with Bill and Monica? Please - anyone???

Putney Swope speaking of ancient references and talking about spinning...how ironic.

Why only last week Obama told us he will go along with withever the DNC decides.

Kind of like when he told the voters in Florida he would seat the delegation. He must whisper the rest of the sentence which always is unless of course it hurts my chances of winning.,

As for going through the Clinton papers, looks like the media is just another bunch of panty sniffers.

When I saw Obama using the word about his judgement over the war 5 years ago is getting stale, especially when he hasn't shown his judgment over his despicable rev. and coming forth a year later after lying about Rezko. I think his signature word JUDGEMENT no longer holds any water in his bucket now filled with holes. I am from Florida and I agree with joe as do many others about not seating the fla. delegates. Rules are made to be broken at least in Fla where the circumstances are fairer than MIchigan, although Michigan should come to some resolution because it is not fair to their voters. Obama is being very UNAMERICAN for not wanting to help seat these votes just for his own political gain, when in turn he may be digging his own political gain. I was planning on voting for Obama if Hillary was not nominated but now I am having second thoughts. He is not the person I thought he was, and I am a latter drinker with a large income.
And if blacks stay home if Hillary should get the nomination then they are hypocrits and not true democrats would they rather have McCain look out for their best interests. The blacks should also stop trashing the Clintons who did so much for the black community just because Obama came along. I understand their allegiance toward them but get real. Also explain to me what Obama has done for Katrina victims I haven't heard anything publically. Bill Clinton has raised so much money with his own foundation, His foundation with George SR. and his work with Brad Pitt and the black community wants to trash him. GET REAL.
Also joe tell Mika to grow up she's such a baby when she whines to you and Willie about not talking about certain issues, or that's not nice, or puts down a newspaper with a hooker on it. This an adult morning show we can take it.
I used to like Mika but she's obviously in the tank for Obama I think her being on the show is a conflict of interest considering all her family members are working with McCain or Obama.
Thanks Craig for letting me say all this about Joe's program which I love especially when your on to give fair views. Love your style!!!

Mika's "daddy" is just another run-of-the-mill old fart misogynist. Comparing Senator Clinton to Mamie "cocktail hour" Eisenhower? Give me an effin' break! MSNBC has become ObamaNBC, all Clinton hate, all the time. Off my DVR...forever.

ps
"There are valid worries about seating Michigan's and Florida's delegates but Hillary only voiced her concerns about them when it became apparent that she would need their delegates' votes to win the nomination. She didn't care or voice her opinions before this need."

that makes you Putney a big fat liar. Clinton all along said the states votes should count..

dog...
you forgot to mention the 5th anniversary of the Iraq war....

I watched some of the Cooper/Obama interview on CNN last night....

I know the Obama stuff just broke out.... but.... it should have been put aside for a day and the Iraq war should have been put front and center by the media yesterday.... the fact that it wasn't..... says all we need to know about the sad state of our media, IMO....

HOUSEKEEPING -- i am fiddling with our Blogroll page.

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Likewise for any changes or deletions.

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So you think Obama has a "religious problem?"

Hillary is part of a secretive fundamentalist Christian organization known as "The Family."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barbara-ehrenreich/hillarys-nasty-pastorate_b_92361.html

There have always been two wings of the Democratic party: the people who protested in the streets of Chicago in 1968, and the Mayor Daley wing of the party, who beat the protestors with clubs.

Guess which wing Hillary belongs to.

Top of the morning and happy first day of Spring.

Wow, msnbc actually admitted that Hillary is in lead in a major amount.. Talk your tongue out Hillary, let them have it with both barrels, positive talk and we will win Pa and all the other 9 states after and lookout Obama we are on your tail and we will win this primary.

CQ had article re: Hagel thinks there should be a 3rd party. I thought he and Bloomberg decided they could not beat the the two party system.

If Obama does not ok Michigan today and let it go ahead and vote, he is really defeating himself. Where is Dean leadership? Think his brain has slipped from its usual residing place.

Isn't it nice not to have the Obamanauts calling us names. However I notice they are lurking..

Hillary like Mamie...geez even with all her hair styles
I don't think she ever had bangs.

The Wall Street Journal, of course, immediately ran to Hillary's papers to find out where she was when Vince Foster died. Those a-holes just amaze me. Here's something Paul Krugman mentioned about the WSJ op/ed crowd a while back:

"In June 1993, the editorial page singled out Vincent Foster, deputy White House counsel and a former law partner of then-First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, with a headline "Who Is Vincent Foster?" Other editorials about Foster and his role in the Clinton White House followed. On July 20, 1993, Foster killed himself. A note later found in his briefcase said, "The WSJ editors lie without consequence."

The editorial page later published six books compiling its investigative commentary into the Clinton's Whitewater land investments and the Clinton presidency.

Hillary like Mamie...geez even with all her hair styles
I don't think she ever had bangs.

Craig my friend... how much I love reading your comments, or watching them -- even when I don't always agree.

Some of the Obama supporters say that not seating a Michigan and Florida delegation will have no effect on those states in the general election... in other words, they will still vote Democratic. Home pride is a touchy issue, and if you say "all the dems from everywhere except Michigan or Florida can cast their preferences for the Democratic nominee," well you might as well stand in line for 4 more years of Republican mis-rule.

Also, it seems rather ingenious for Obama to be the "new type of politics" symbol when he is as calculating and playing the "politics as usual" game as he has accused his opponent.

Pity. It really is true that you can never count Democrats out from pulling defeat from the arms of victory.

kc, RFLMFAO re: your 10:28

Now be fair - he said he's do right by the FL voters - only I'm betting that his idea of doing right by them differs from their idea.

Heather:

I am no left-wing liberal nut. In fact, Patsi has even accused me of being a Republican for some of the things that come out of my mouth (so to speak).

I am a realist - and although I am an eternal optimist - I am also very prgamatic.

Finally, Obama supporters are not calling for HRC to step aside because he is the messiah - we are doing so because Obama is winning this primary race that has lasted much longer than anyone expected. The candidate's have got their message out their - and Obama has won more states, delegates and votes.

At the point, both candidates are just doing the GOP's dirty work. The only people now that hope it goes to the Convention are HRC supporters and the GOP.

everybody still talking about the SPEECH ' the most important speech in the history of mankind
jesus'' the sermon on the mount''that was so yesterday
lincoln 's gettysburg address
winston churchhill'' FDR''' JFK''MLK
all amateurs'' rookies
'barack the great' has spoken
Posted by: mqw | March 20, 2008 8:14 AM

Yes I felt the earth move under my feet as he spoke. For a moment I thought it was time for the Rapture. PRAISE THE LORD!

I thought that same thing Jack.

Perhaps to keep some of the fighting under control. It is hard to really get into it with someone with a two-minute delay. By that time - reason usually sets in.

"At the point, both candidates are just doing the GOP's dirty work. The only people now that hope it goes to the Convention are HRC supporters and the GOP." warren

If you add those two groups together : HRC & GOP you get a "majority"

Posted by: warren | March 20, 2008 10:59 AM

According to your bullsh-t analysis of the race
the Patriots won the superbowl.

You claims to know football. Another area where you sorely lack facts.

Here's a good site to check out Senate races:

http://politicalrealm.blogspot.com/2008/03/senate-watch-news-notes.html

As a FL Democrat I am embarassed? Our DNC is a joke. The FL Repubs that created the Jan vote that's being disputed are laughing at us. BO will never let FL be seated. Dems are snatching defeat from the jaws of victory in November. I will be glad when Howard, Harry and Nancy go away. All 3 are jokes.

Warren posted: " In fact, Patsi has even accused me of being a Republican"

ROFL....I did indeed, didn't I?

No, Heather, Warren's not in either the left or right wing of nuts. Misguided, though....Hillary shouldn't drop out. This is a close race.

Paul Scofield has passed away.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/20/europe/obits.php

Great actor and star of one of my favorite movies, A Man For All Seasons

Tell me, someone, anyone, what possible relevance Hillary's whereabouts when Bill was getting blown by Monica could have if her whereabouts were anywhere other than in the room with Bill and Monica? Please - anyone???

Posted by: pogo bin agogo | March 20, 2008 10:22 AM

I guess it's only relevant if it was a three-way with her participating. Even then... different strokes I say....

Hi Craig et al,

Just want to point out that Obama is NOT the only thing that stands between Florida and Michigan and a re-vote.

In Florida the state board of elections refuses to certify signatures so the mail-in idea is off the table.

In Michigan, the state senate would have to approve the re-vote by a two-thirds majority and it is controlled by Republicans who have publicly opposed it. In a straw poll of state senators, the plan garnered only a handful of positive votes, nowhere near a majority, much less a super-majority.

To my way of thinking, this is just a nice piece of spin run by the very effective Clinton campaign to make a virtue of necessity. The obstacles are so great that no revote is likely in either state so the second-best outcome is to make it look as if Obama is to blame.

Nifty work by the press team at Clinton HQ.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/black_guy_asks_nation_for_change

KGC:

Clinton had a bad quote - before the primaries got started - about FL and MI not counting. KO used it last night - but I can't find it on the internet (I think it is a Clinton conspiracy to hide negative news about her).

Anyways, the point is - she made no arguments about disenfranchisement - until it became clear - she would not have a chance unless there is a re-vote.

Just because it is politically convenient to be on the "popular" side of this argument - does not make her a saint. If the delegate count was reveresed - and HRC was winning - the two candidates would be on opposite sides of this debate.

Please, anon, get the name of the offending network right. It's MSNGobama. LOL

Nash,

So Nash, is that the Baby Seal wing of the party that got clubbed in Chicago?

Actually there is probably a lesson from Chicago, which if remembered might help avoid riots in the streets of Denver and probably alot of other inner cities. Dr. Dean have you read your history books?

My youngest is six and my oldest is 8. They've both dropped quite a few F bombs in their few years that can be traced back to me, LOL, my cuss word of choice. I just find it very odd how freely the reporters and analysts are throwing G.D. around on TV. I'm not a perfect mother but I do try to teach them not to cuss in public or directly at someone. I did not go to church often as a child but I did get mouth washed out with soap when I dropped a G. D. That's all!

Nash

"Guess which wing Hillary belongs to"

Since you are obviously privileged to know the inner workings of her mind, why don't you tell us.

Of course her own words in 1969 might just shed more light on the subject

http://www.wellesley.edu/PublicAffairs/Commencement/1969/053169hillary.html

NYTimes today: Clinton Facing Narrower Path to Nomination:

...It is in the interest of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign to portray the contest as being highly competitive. Her campaign is intent on combating Mr. Obama’s efforts to pick off superdelegates. And it is increasingly concerned that any sign that the window is closing could lead a Democrat like Al Gore or Speaker Nancy Pelosi to step in and urge Democrats to back Mr. Obama in the interest of unity.

In truth [NYT reporter's words!! -- dog], in interviews, Mrs. Clinton’s advisers said that task was tough and growing tougher and that the critical questions were what would happen with Florida and Michigan and the possibility of developments involving Mr. Obama’s relationship with his spiritual adviser, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.

The fight over Florida and Michigan is just partly about delegates. Victories in new primaries in those states are among the only realistic ways for Mrs. Clinton to erase Mr. Obama’s advantage in the total popular vote.

....Mrs. Clinton’s advisers said they had spent recent days making the case to wavering superdelegates that Mr. Obama’s association with Mr. Wright would doom their party in the general election.

That argument could be Mrs. Clinton’s last hope for winning this contest.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/20/us/politics/20memo.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1206025737-VYHEKwMUqKoVtetblCD5Jg

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Hillary may get some spin out this newscycle, but it's a long time until Pennsylvania -- which was always going to be tough for BHO, given demographics (a state with large % older and struggling working class people -- economic uncertainty and racial concerns an issue there).

Need to see actual fallout of Wright issue. A certain number of voters would never vote for BHO or HRC. Her negatives in general are still likely to remain higher.

The Shrubians have started using the phrase
"moral hazard" in dealing with the financial crisis and gov't bailouts. Of all the bumpersticker phrases they have tried to pawn off this is the most ridiculous and insulting. The entire Shrub administration is a moral and toxic hazard,

Of course Clinton supporters swamped MSNBC with emails and letters when they felt MSNBC was being sexist to HRC.

But NOW - they claim Joe S. and Pat B. are spot on with their analysis when they are overtly playing the race card against Obama.

Politics is politics, huh....

I need to get some work done.

Play nice...(oh forget it).

bill, WADR, failing to press the DNC, FL & MI party leaders to have a revote or do whatever is necessary to have the votes of FL & MI voters count in the dem primary is the issue - not whether Obama is preventing it. The spin is from the Obama camp by recasting criticism of the Messiah for not demanding that the DNC, FL & MI correct the problems and assure that the voters in those states have their voices heard in the process. Instead of taking a principled stand in favor of or opposed to finding a solution, Obama's camp is niggling over proposed details to avoid IMHO being pinned down and tarred with his opposition to the democratic process. Whether I am right or wrong, Obama is, as Craig said, a "frontrunner who is seemingly afraid to allow re-votes in Michigan and Florida. Or at least that is how Barack Obama is allowing it to appear."

Whether he is actually all that stands in the way of a re-vote is another issue, and I think Craig may not be accurate about that - but then again, I know a lot less than he does about the mechanics of the process in either of those states.

"Obama supporters are not calling for HRC to step aside because he is the messiah - we are doing so because Obama is winning this primary race that has lasted much longer than anyone expected. "
--warren

You can't be serious!! Since when does a race/game end when a certain person/team takes the lead?

Now, I know you are a lawyer and I am only about as sharp as a marble...but, thinking back to every race I have ever seen, in my life...I am pretty sure that the winner always had to cross the finish line.

And as far as this race going on longer than anyone "expected"...with that reasoning, BHO should never have even entered the race, since so many people "expected" HRC to win the nomination.

I could be wrong, but I'll bet JSMc is glad that he did not drop out of the Republican race, when everyone thought he could not win.

"Moral hazard". Thanks for head's up, KGC.

And the biggest one of all would be some system of national healthcare. So people like CBob could blog happily and in better health until too old to care.

Please provide more examples of "moral hazard" when you see them. That is a public service.

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Looks like C List time lapse is down to about 5-7 minutes. An improving trend.

"Her negatives in general are still likely to remain higher."

You cannot back this statement up .

Obama's negatives are higher now. Clinton's have gone down as she has campaigned.

Nash

If you are going to post Barbara EHrenreich as a source on Senator Clinton, you should probably include the following from her Wiki bio

"Ehrenreich is currently an honorary co-chair of the Democratic Socialists of America. She also serves on the NORML Board of Directors.

In February 2008, Ehrenreich expressed support for Senator Barack Obama in the 2008 U.S. presidential campaign, writing in her blog:

There’s no mystery about the direction in which Obama might take us: He’s written a breathtakingly honest autobiography; he has a long legislative history, and now, a meaty economic program. // We, perhaps white people especially, look to him for atonement and redemption. All of us, of whatever race, want a fresh start. That's what "change" means right now: Get us out of here!"

Hillary's IN round table being streamed live on the CNN Web site is really great -

This is the kind of thing Warren likes - sitting down with real people and listening to them. Isn't that what you said Obama would do Warren-he's off giving yet another speech and she's the one doing the listening...you should tune in

:-D

"Barack Obama has the same number who will definitely vote for him--34%. But, more people are committed to voting against him than McCain. Forty-three percent (43%) say they will definitely reject him at the ballot box. For 18%, their support depends on his opponent"

Obama's negatives are up to 51%, even after the pass he's been given by the press. Clinton is at 50%, but that's after 15 years of scrutiny and the worst coverage of the primary season. Edwards, who has been virtually ignored by the press for months, has the lowest negatives of the top three Dems:

McCain Favorable: 53 Unfavorable: 27 Edwards Favorable: 49 Unfavorable: 42 Clinton Favorable: 48 Unfavorable: 50 Obama Favorable: 43 Unfavorable: 51 Thompson Favorable: 42 Favorable: 42 Giuliani Favorable: 40 Unfavorable: 55 Huckabee Favorable: 40 Unfavorable: 47 Romney Favorable: 38 Unfavorable: 51

Based on the argument, Obama is the one who should get out. As people get to know him, his unfavorable goes up. Just the opposite for Clinton,.

"The first poll out of WV for the nomination, Rasmussen shows Clinton with a 55-27 percent lead over Obama."

Yes, KC, it scertainly would be a moral hazard for the government to fail to guarantee the Bear Stearns buyout. Puhlease!!! And of course, I am speculating - but I would bet that the buyout of BS will not keep foreclosures from happening.

Anyone notice that gold and oil prices have dropped 10% and that the market is up today? Its like a friggin' Pogo stick. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

I love this poem
It's about keeping a positive attitude...

If you think you are beaten you are;
If you think you dare not, you don't;
If you want to win but think you can't;
It's almost a cinch you won't.

If you think you'll lose you're lost;
For out of the world we find
Success begins with a fellow's will;
It's all in a state of mind.

Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger and faster man,
But sooner or later the man who wins
Is the man who thinks he can.

-- Author Unknown

HILLARY '08!!

Look at that - Clinton saying..."let's just open it up to everyone in the room for questions"

Now that's a woman who is not afraid to listen to the American people and answer their questions.

LushisLinda:

Romney stepped aside early. Even though he knew he could have fought on - and sought to take McCain out - and possibly end up as the nominee.

But Mitt stepped aside for the good of the party. A foreign concept to the Clintons.

C'mon Wendy. You know Obama does roundtables as well.

I have no problem with you making HRC's case - but please quit with the misinformation.

I am planning on joining the secret C-list Obama group
I think they will need my help and experience.

"And the biggest one of all would be some system of national healthcare. So people like CBob could blog happily and in better health until too old to care"

No kidding. Has anyone heard from CBob lately?

You guys, it's still a really long time until Pennsylvania. Polling might show a snapshot of varying accuracy, but there is lots and lots of time.

There will be plenty of time for roundtables and town halls and all sorts of campaign events.

Hillary does shine in roundtables. So am glad you are enjoying watching that.

Notice Sen Clinton is doing the Indiana appearance with Evan Bayh. If she gets the nomination and Obama won't go for the VP slot, then you are probably looking at the Democratic team.

Wendy!, That WV poll was Rasmussen?

Handy guide to Hillary Clinton's agreeing that Michigan and Florida votes will not count.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5169900

Blog article about Hillary's statement about votes not counting.

http://halfricanrevolution.blogspot.com/2008/03/it-is-time-for-hillary-to-drop-nonsense.html

I will post the link for the actual words spoke by Hillary stating the votes would not count. in the next comment.

Yes - I know - Rasmussen sucks...but it's a good indicator of what's going on...I know we should wait for SurveyUSA to see what the real numbers are.

Warren:

When was his last round table where he opened it up to people in the room...have any YouTube video you can throw this way...I'm sure everyone on the list would like to see it.

Actual audio clip about votes not counting by Hillary.

http://www.jabberwonk.com/flinker.cfm?cliid=zydzt

warren, not everyone has such admiration for Romney or his motives.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2008/02/romney_and_son.cfm

What I find interesting is that Clinton supporters leave blogs because they are being attacked, harassed and threatened.

Obama supporters leave blogs because Clinton supporters won't agree with them about how wonderful Obama is

Very interesting.

I admire the Obama supporters - like Warren - who stay in the conversation.

Bayh is a tool and if she finds a way to pull this thing out - and picks that boring out-of-touch white dude - Hello President John McCain. What country shall we invade next Commander?

You really do need me.

As Clinton lengthens Pennsylvania lead, candidates head elsewhere
by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor March 20, 2008 09:51 AM
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/03/as_clinton_leng.html

Join me in the Indiana dunes and we will wait for our next chance to win.

"Romney stepped aside early. Even though he knew he could have fought on - and sought to take McCain out - and possibly end up as the nominee."
--warren

hmmmmm....let me think....I can honestly say I did not pay much attention to the Romney/McCain race.

Correct me, if I am wrong...but I thought Romney dropped out of the race because, mathmatically, there was no way he could win the nomination...no?

You know, if Romney had a chance win the nomination and he chose to drop out...well then I would like to make him an honorary member of the "Sharp Marbles Club". 8~D

I am not going anywhere. Someone needs to keep you Clintonites in line...

The only people on this blog whining about other people's posts are Obama supporters.

A constant stream of wanting a nanny to supervise and censor all comments. Threats of leaving the blog.

How can we miss you if you won't go away?

AP

She signed the pledge to "not campaign" in the state and to "adhere to the DNC calendar". None of the candidates "officially" campaigned in the two states though Obama ads ran in Florida and they both held "fund raisers" and had workers on the ground registering people etc.

Not campaigning is not the same as saying, "The votes shouldn't count". Both Senator Obama and Senator Clinton initially said that some way should be found to seat the Florida and Michigan delegates and count their votes.

The two conditions should not be conflated.

That is a good quote anon.

HRC:

"It's clear, these elections they're having are not going to count for anything."

(unless of course I need them to win - then I will strong-arm and divide the Democratic party, my supporters will throw Dean under the bus, and me and the GOP will use this issue to make Obama look bad - and I will have it my way - or else....)

Holy Disenfranchisement Batman!!

Obama is in Portland tomorrow at the Memorial Coliseum. You had to purchase tickets to attend. I've been attending political rallies since 1960 with JFK. I've neer had to buy a ticket to attend a rally. Is this done often??

There is a big swing to Hillary in several states including North Carolina and West Virginia..At this time the tide is turning. This is quite an election year. Who knows what will happen next???

I admire the Obama supporters - like Warren - who stay in the conversation.
Posted by: Wendy! | March 20, 2008 12:09 PM

On this I agree !!! I didn't like Warren at first, but he really grows on you... :-)

And Dog, I think you're really decent and a dialoging person. I don't know about your choice of a particular friend, but each her/his own.

Cheers

When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends.
Japanese Proverb

"I am not going anywhere. Someone needs to keep you Clintonites in line..."

ROFL

Warren

Do you honestly think Evan Bayh is a borin old white guy?

He has done well by Indiana and seems a very likeable guy. Don't think we know enough about him really.

One positive thing about Hillary. She said back in the Iowa contest that she would not promise to do something that someone wanted her to promise to.
She responded that when you promise something in the primary, you must live up to it when you get to the White House.. She will live up to her promises, and will get the troops out of Iraq, just as she said.
I for one do not think she would go to war over just any thing or whim like shrub - or like you implied on your post. Do you honest to goodness believe that?
Now Obama is another matter, he might do just as you are accusing Hillary.

Thanks ET. That is my M.O.

You are not the first person to think I am a total insufferable bastard when they first meet me. Often an unfortunate result of saying what you really think...

Patsi

"No kidding. Has anyone heard from CBob lately?"

There have been a couple of times when a "Bob Chapman" has posted, but we have no way of knowing if that was someone's bad taste or if it was really him.

There have been no postings to his Newsvine or blog sites since November nor any email communication. All messages to his email bounce. Our fears are that he is too ill to write or may have passed away.

If anyone knows anything definite, I would really like to hear.

LushLinda,

good job on the proverb....

Linda:

Romney was ahead of the Huck when he dropped out. He was nowhere close to being mathematically eliminated. Again, it was for the good of the party.

I always admire the GOP for their loyalty to the party and their superior organizational skills.

The Dems could learn a thing or two from them (and Obama has!!).

Geta Life:

We whine about misinformation and unfair attacks - which are often spewed by rapid Clintonites.

Keep in mind - most blogs are pro-Obama - and this place is the exception - not the norm....

Warren

Shock and surprise, I agree with you about Evan Bayh. Most people aren't aware that he is the Democratic version of Dan Quayle, and he sure wants the job.

My first choice would be Sen Obama or lacking that Governor Richardson or Sen. Edwards. All three have wonderful positives for a national campaign.

"Bayh is a tool and if she finds a way to pull this thing out - and picks that boring out-of-touch white dude "

AGREED!

I alwayed liked the Huck. Here's to him for "keeping it real!!"

http://forumpolitics.com/index/2008/03/19/mike-huckabee-defends-barack-obama-and-rev-wright/

Guess I do not know enough about Evan Bayh.

Looks like Jamie and Patsi both agree - no to Bayh.

I too would like to see RIchardson or Edwards as VP.
Or Even Biden or Webb.. I like Webb, even though he used to be a Repub..

Think she should put Madeline what's her name back in as Secy of State. She is one smart lady and seemed to work very well with people.. Or Richardson. He is a definite good guy to work with people..

OD: Never paid for any political rallies here in Iowa. Is this a fundraiser and not a rally?

Jamie: Evan Bayh even LOOKS like Dan Quayle.

Warren

"rapid Clintonites" We need to run fast to escape the Obamaphiles. :-P

I love this blog, because it takes me out "Lindaville"...I learn so many things, by reading people's comments and then following the links. And sometimes I even discover a few things on my own!! 8~)...
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From TNYT 07FEB08

"Mr. Romney had hoped to use Tuesday’s results to narrow Mr. McCain’s lead. Instead, he saw Mr. McCain widen the lead at the same time that Mr. Romney’s campaign lost ground to Mike Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor, who racked up solid gains."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/07/us/politics/07cnd-repubs.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

________

warren

I am thinking maybe, just maybe(keep an open mind here)--Mitt dropped out of the race, not for the good of his party, but rather for the good of his ego...no?

I don't know...I'm just sayin' 8~D

Geta Life:

We whine about misinformation and unfair attacks - which are often spewed by rapid Clintonites.

Keep in mind - most blogs are pro-Obama - and this place is the exception - not the norm....

Posted by: warren

Maybe most of the far left blogs you read. Try to get out more.

If anyone needs to get a life, it's you. Last night you posted you were taking your dog for a walk and yet two minutes tater a post from you. Must have been the shortest walk ever or you have a rich imaginery life.

I alwayed liked the Huck. Here's to him for "keeping it real!!"

The man who wants to change the constitution to reflect the bible.
Warren

When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends.
Japanese Proverb

Posted by: LushIsLinda | March 20, 2008 12:28 PM

This seems apropos:

Sorry Hillary, "Won't get fooled again"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUbGLVvfB7Y&feature=related

Someone refresh my memory...

Do they teach evolution in Indiana or are they flat earth types like in Kansas?

This is a personal dig at Hillary Clinton but it has bothered me for some time. Can someone please post a link to her picture where she had a decent @#$@ hairdo?

She either has the femullet she wears now, (which since her hair is closest to Craigs, that is why he supports her)

If you look at her pictures during the 90's, she always had some bang flip thing that screamed out 1980's teen flick. If you can afford to lend your campaign $5 Million, can't you go someplace other than Super Cuts to get a decent hair style...geez...

Warren....
I enjoy reading your posts and I LOVE your energy......
but you can't really be naive enough to believe that any politician actually quits a race for the good of the party..... can you?

Romney left the race when it became more than apparent that he wasn't going to get the nomination..... he so graciously bowed out.... like any politician.... with an eye to his political future..... he's hoping to be part of a McCain administration and/or to make another run for the Republican nomination in the future....

Patsi, Jamie, and anyone else interested in CBob.....
CBob and I were communicating almost daily in email for several months.... he was helping me with my new Mac..... he stopped emailing all of a sudden in Nov. ..... and yes, my emails to him started to bounce back.....
I really think he's passed over or close to it at this point.....

and BTW.... he was emailing me from a hospice....

Jamie, Patsi, I went back to CBobs blog poking around a little. I remembered he posted about going to his moms grave in Lubbock and had posted a picture of Buddy Hollys grave. Didn't find any name confirmation but if he has passed he might have ened up in the Lubbock City Cemetary. Anyway, but I found this.

Wednesday, April 25, 2007
A Bit of Clarification
I should have gone into some detail about my condition, but having shared it with my friends at Crawfordslist for some time, I slowly forgot that information wasn't tattooed here.

I am not suicidal, but I have the liver of Poppa John Phillips [Before he got his 50,000 drink over haul]. It's not really a bad way to go. Your liver doesn't have nerves, so pain isn't a big problem at this point. But my ability to sit up, and type has taken a turn in the past week or two. So I haven't been visiting the places on the web as much as I once did, and I haven't had the energy to do all those things with my MAC that are so much fun.

One thing about the web, it saves lives. I ended up on the web because my lower disks gave up a few years ago, and needles invaded my legs and feet. I started looking around the web, and ended up at Crawfordslist .... That move has kept my mind going for the last couple of years. Brain Rot is far more deadly than Liver Rot. Pin-Heads like Chris Matthews think the web is populated by guys like the one in the MAC commercials. But there's a hell of a lot of people like me who use it as a line to minds that keep them going. Someone should do a post about this, it's a fertile subject.

I'm concerned that in the not too distant future I won't be able to write any more. That's why I posted the one below. I've never been a big fan of mysteries ... I'm a Virgo, I want to know what's going on, hence my reason for these comments.

Many thanks for the concern, and kind words... But I water skied under a helicopter, and danced with a lot of beautiful women. Some even took me home. What more can a man ask for ?

posted by COLORADO BOB at 4/25/2007 04:30:00 AM 23 comments

Once everyone calms down about race, I think the Clinton papers re: NAFTA will hurt Hillary in PA:

"The schedules show that on Oct. 5, 1993, she led a "Nafta Health Care Meeting" of top administration officials, including then-White House Chief of Staff Mack McLarty, who played a key role in persuading Congress to ratify the trade agreement.

On Nov. 10, 1993, Mrs. Clinton spoke for 15 minutes to an unidentified group in the White House about the trade agreement.

What Mrs. Clinton said then isn't clear from the schedules. Here's what she says now: "You know, I have been a critic of Nafta from the very beginning. I didn't have a public position on it, because I was part of the administration," she said in a Feb. 26 debate in Ohio."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120593865667548595.html?mod=hpp_us_whats_news

Given Bill's enthusiasim for NAFTA, I find it hard to believe she was a "critic" during these meetings...

(off to the gym)

P.S. - what is so wrong with Clinton being Senate Majority Leader?

Webb has personal courage, intelligence, independent thought, patriotism in abundance, an exceedingly low threshold for BS, and a son, who like him, chose to serve in combat.

Does our country deserve him?

Sorry Jamie - I meant "rabid Clintonites"

Sheesh, Bear, even I know her hairdresser used to take care of Mrs Roosevelt's.

Hair is a nuisance to her--she has more important things on her mind.

A LIST of PRO Hillary SITES (as fyi) does html work here?

The Confluence

Hillary's Voice

Valentine Bonnaire

Mydd (half and half)

NO Quarter (love it)

Taylor Marsh (of course)

just to name a few (thank GOODNESS)
:-}

And Bear, what about that merkin you call a toupee. Or is that someone else.

A LIST of PRO Hillary SITES (as fyi) does html work here?

The Confluence

Hillary's Voice

Valentine Bonnaire

Mydd (half and half)

NO Quarter (love it)

Taylor Marsh (of course)

just to name a few (thank GOODNESS)
:-}

“Sooooooo......remember when Hillary Clinton said LBJ played an important role in signing the Civil Rights legislation and she was run out of town as a racist diminishing the role of Rev. MLK? What's going to happen to McCaskill on this one? Is she going to be run out of town or called a racist for diminishing Rev. MLKs leadership?”

I am a political junky and don’t just watch the major networks (well, never watch Faux). I love CSpan. Last week I saw “A Milestone in Civil Rights History”. In that discussion, both Ted Soresen, Chief Counsel to JFK, and Nicholas Katzenbach, Attorney General for Lyndon Johnson, talked about the Civil Rights bill being brought before Congress during the Kennedy term; then after JFK was killed Johnson brought it forward again. They both agree in this program that the Civil Rights Bill would have been passed either way if JFK were alive. So, Mrs. Rodham-Clinton can wink, wink, nod, nod all she wants but the truth is that, yes, Johnson was instrumental but it would have happened regardless of Johnson.

JFK was the one who was instrumental and would have gone forward with it had November 22, 1963 not happened; since then, Obama is the person to actually bring racial strife to the nation’s forefront. Hilliary’s remark was to say that back door politics is what gets it done, something both Clinton’s are good at. But, a new day is here and so far the majority of Americans want something better…working with Republicans to get things done in an upfront manner, something Obama has been able to do thus far and the Clintons have not.

http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&products_id=203722-1

Getafact

In case you hadn't noticed there is currently a 5 to 10 minute lag on posts to the blog. Get a real name or nickname and offer some information. Otherwise, leave Warren alone.

It's time we all called a halt to the name calling and snide remarks.

(talking on the phone)

Ohhhhh...not doin' much...just relaxing...reading the posts on CTM....running my hands through my newly cut femullet....looking at old pics of BHO and all his crazy coiffs from days gone by..." 8~D

Renee: thanks for the info on CBob. Heavy of heart here.

BowmanC: thanks for sharing that post. Yup, that's CBob writing.

Yesterday, Stinky and I had appointments at the Fort Jackson hospital. When we were leaving the building I noticed an old feller sitting on a bench just inside the building's entrance.

I figured he was waiting for someone to bring a car around so I decided to challenge him to a walking stick duel (that's what I do when I see depressed looking old soldiers leaning on their canes.) I'm pretty good with mine and I figured I could take the guy.

He was really unresponsive so I sat next to him and forced him to engage in a conversation.

As he perked up he started talking to me about WW-II and how lucky he is to be alive. He went on for about five minutes, clearly enjoying the fact that someone took the time to enjoy his company.

He told me he was 95 going on 96. I said, "If you want to, I hope you live to be 100." He thanked me, saying that he did.

So, that was the highlight of our morning yesterday.

Don't know how many have noticed this, but if you post then preview, if you scan down to the bottom your post shows as being live. On the actual "live" blog, it does not show up for several minutes.

Warren..You shouldn't find it difficult to believe that Hillary had serious reservations about NAFTA. David Gergan has recently made clear that everyone close to the Clinton White House were well aware that Hillary's position on NAFTA.

guess not - regarding html - durn it

oh well - you can google any of those names if you've not already heard of them.

GO HILLARY!!!

Wendy!, that wasn't intended as a slight of Rasmussen, although they often get it wrong - I was just confirming the source. Mark Blankenship did a similar poll a month ago, and Hillary had a 21 point lead then.

Such sophism. HRC is trying to support do - overs, and her backers are soliciting donors to allow that to happen. She adhered to the pledge she signed. I expect the FL and MI Dem Committees to cause a ruckus at the convention to have their delegates seated. It won't be Hillary's doing, and it won't be her fault. If that comes to pass, I suggest that the DNC, including Harold Ickes, look inward for the cause. It was a stupid f@&king mistake, and it will have a stupid f@&king consequence. But I'll still vote for the Dem nominee.

"Given Bill's enthusiasim for NAFTA, I find it hard to believe she was a "critic" during these meetings..."

James Carville has testified that she spoke to insiders and to Pres. Clinton about her negative reservations on NAFTA at the time the President was so enthusiastic. As part of the administration, she then had to get on board in support of her husband's position.

Kennedy put political realism before any form of beliefs when he voted against Eisenhower’s 1957 Civil Rights Act. The route from bill to act nearly served to tear apart the Republicans and the Democrats were almost united to a politician in their opposition to the bill/act. Kennedy had aspirations to be the Democrats next presidential candidate in the 1960 election. If he was seen to be taking the party line and demonstrating strong leadership with regards to opposing the bill, this would do his chances no harm whatsoever. This proved to be the case and Kennedy lead the Democrats to victory over Richard Nixon in 1960.

actions speak louder then the rememberances of the keepers of the flame

The Obama rally in Portlad is billed as a rally.
Later in the day there is another rally in Salem..Tickets are free in Salem.Tickets purchased for the Portland event are no being marketed online..I think these events should be free. You can always ask for donations.

Hey who is CBob?

Bear

Hillary has just never been a fashion plate type person. She is doing better these days and probably has a makeup person on the road, but I don't think it comes naturally to her. She always reminds me of me ... hot curlers and pass the hair band. :-)

Now I rather like this one, but you might call it the femullet.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/abc_barack_clinton_070425_ms.jpg

Regardless of his promises, in 1961 Kennedy did nothing to help and push forward the civil rights issue. Why? International factors meant that the president could never focus attention on domestic issues in that year. He also knew that there was no great public support for such legislation. Opinion polls indicated that in 1960 and 1961, civil rights was at the bottom of the list when people were asked "what needs to be done in America to advance society ?" Kennedy was also concentrating his domestic attention on improving health care and helping the lowest wage earners. Civil rights issues would only cloud the issue and disrupt progress in these areas. Kennedy also argued that improving health care and wages for the poor would effectively be civil rights legislation as they would benefit the most from these two.

Carolina Dawn

You don't need code here. Just past in a link. Remember that you can only post two links in any one message or the it will get held in a dungeon and Craig has the only key. If you have more than two links, put them in multiple messages.

"Guess I do not know enough about Evan Bayh.
Looks like Jamie and Patsi both agree - no to Bayh."

I used to think he might be a good candidate, but then I heard him interviewed on something and just had to shake my head....so my bias is really only based on one interview....

Renee,

November was my last email from CBob as well. I've sent regular emails but they only bounce. I tried obituaries in the Lubbock area, but couldn't find anything.

"Ehrenreich is currently an honorary co-chair of the Democratic Socialists of America. She also serves on the NORML Board of Directors.

Posted by Jamie

My very first book I had to read when I transferred to The Evergreen State College from Seattle Central Community College was "The Mean Season" by Ehrenreich et al... Literary Journal comments on the book: "This is a spirited reaffirmation of the humane values of the American "welfare state" as well as a sharp attack on the Reagan Administration for trying to dismantle the "safety net" that now protects the unemployed, dependent children, the aged, the disabled, and the very poor..."

I was also a card carrying paid member of the Democratic Socialists of America. I was neither a Democrat or a Socialist... I was between the two, if that makes sense. I grew up with the radical DFL party in Minnesota Democrat-Farmer-Labor. One of many reasons I moved to Europe was my admiration of the welfare state here. Now that I am a business owner I am a bit less enamored, but I still believe in the social protections offered in the various countries of Europe.

If Hillary wasn't running, I'd be so gung-ho for Barack Obama. I know I've said this before, but it's true. Those are my thoughts...

" Can someone please post a link to her picture where she had a decent @#$@ hairdo?"

Hmm....I never question people's hairdos....I have Brillo hair myself. An AA pal (female) calls me a nappy-headed ho, as a matter of fact. I wish did have nap instead of Brillo....then I'd just get a weave and forget it.

Oh come on Karolenna

"They both agree in this program that the Civil Rights Bill would have been passed either way if JFK were alive."

LBJ WAS JFK's VP. He was a major supporter of the Civil Rights bill. Are you saying that he had nothing to do with that bill and that his support was unnecessary? Sen Clinton's point was that legislation doesn't get passed by protests and marches. Those actions indicate the necessity, but without a politician to push it, it doesn't become law. The two actions are opposite halves of the same coin.

Whether it was JFK or LBJ who pushed for the law, they were still the "politicians' necessary to make the MLK dream come true as law.

and there is no wink wink about it.

You rarely make progress on any issue until you find a way for both sides to come together and reach a workable solution that is acceptable to both.

Renee, thanks for the CBob update, I just adored him....and Bowmanc, thanks so much for the quote!!!! What a wonderful thing to remember him by:

"I water skied under a helicopter, and danced with a lot of beautiful women. Some even took me home. What more can a man ask for ?"

Eurotom,

In his own words, C-Bob:

Leather Artist since 67', World Record Shot-Hole-Driller, Pretentious Ass & Creative Genius, Agnostic Faith Healer, Cowboy, Lumberjack, Traveler,Lifesaver,Historian,Student of Human Folly & the Natural Sciences,Dancer,Story Teller, Costumer, Designer, Art Director, Manager, Screen Printer, Sign Maker, Plumber, Cabinet Maker/ Finish Carpenter, Star Scout, Teacher, Trucker, & Inventor

As I said, niggling over details - but Bauer's argument about the MI proposal points out exactly what the Obama camp is doing - morphing their argument to oppose whatever plan is put forward. Note that Brewer, head of the Michigan Dem party and the Dem rules committee agree that the MI proposal is valid under Dem delegate selection rules. One thing that is not a valid consideration from the standpoint of a lawyer to justify an action or opposition to it is the speculative threat of lawsuits. EVERY action that impacts people faces the threat of lawsuits. Please send any old clothes you have to Mr. Bauer - he's busy constructing an army of straw men and needs duds for the soldiers.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-03-19-revote-plans_N.htm

I just received a lovely comment on my blog from nancymm who used to post here. It's about my diet and how I am struggling with this necessary weight loss. I hope she posts here again.... She's an important part of this community.

Oh and if anyone is interested to read about my current struggle, please visit my blogspot: http://eurotom.blogspot.com/ or http://www.myspace.com/eurotom ... I'd love to hear other people's wisdom.

Sorry that wasn't a political post but we know I can go off on a tangent now and then.

Eurotom,

In his own words, C-Bob:

Leather Artist since 67', World Record Shot-Hole-Driller, Pretentious Ass & Creative Genius, Agnostic Faith Healer, Cowboy, Lumberjack, Traveler,Lifesaver,Historian,Student of Human Folly & the Natural Sciences,Dancer,Story Teller, Costumer, Designer, Art Director, Manager, Screen Printer, Sign Maker, Plumber, Cabinet Maker/ Finish Carpenter, Star Scout, Teacher, Trucker, & Inventor

He would have stayed on this site longer but he was harassed by a nobody.

ET

Colorado Bob or CBob as we shortened it was a wonderful contributor to this site. He was a great teller of tales and had lived a marvelous life. You can kind of get acquainted as his personal site is still up:

http://colorado-bob.blogspot.com/

He was a leatherwork artist, computer programmer, former hippy from the commune era. Whatever it was CBob had a great story about the musicians, the artists, the people etc.

Sorry you may have missed him.

Thank you Jamie! :-)

Here's another bit of bad new for Obama fans

Obama can't win Massachusetts

A new Survey USA poll has Obama and McCain tied in Massahusetts 47-47. If Obama can't beat McCain in Mass, where can he beat him. It's time for the super delegates to step in, and stop what is now beginning to look like a democratic defeat of historic proportions in November. We can't afford another 8 years of GOP rule. By the way Hillary leads in Mass, according to Survey USA, by 13 points.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/20/125327/885

"He should have just invited people to a church service."

Jamie,

If he had said this, it would have been spun as him condoning JW even more.

"because I hate to think that it might be an indication of the deep racism that still exists in society on both sides."

I hate to think it too but it's real. Look at the stir at TCU. The local cops are preparing for a riot.

btw; Sorry for the snark last evening, it's a CList affliction.

"Sorry Jamie - I meant "rabid Clintonites"

Of course you did. Running around in circles is so much more attractive (and slimming) than foaming at the mouth and biting unsuspecting passers by.

I thiink Hillary looks great! Just sent her another donation..I think it is my $10 and $25 donations that are putting her in the lead in the polls.

"Tickets purchased for the Portland event are no being marketed online..I think these events should be free."

Memorial Coliseum
300 North Winning Way
Portland, OR 97227

Friday, March 21, 2008
Doors open: 7:30 a.m.
Program begins: 9:30 a.m.

The event is free and open to the public; however, space is limited and a ticket is required. Parking is limited, please use public transportation. RSVP using the form to the right to receive a free ticket via email. Seating is available on a first-come, first-served basis.
http://www.barackobama.com/

This reminds me of how Obama won the State Legislature of Illinois election. He doesn't really care if he damages the party or the nation either, its about Obama.

BREAKING: General Election Dealbreaker from Obama

"If Rev. Wright didn't do Obama in, this comment should.

"... .. The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person who, uh, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know there's a reaction that's been been bred into our experiences that don't go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way and that's just the nature of race in our society. We have to break through it. ... .." - Senator Barack Obama

Can you imagine if Hillary Clinton said someone was a "typical black person?" Seriously, Barack Obama basically called all white people racist. You know, because when us typical white folk walk down the street and see an African American coming our way we run to the other side of the road.

Mr. Hope, Mr. Uniter has finally revealed himself further. There's a reason he didn't distance himself from Rev. Wright. There's also a reason that Obama's team pounced on Ferraro and everyone else making any comment at all. Senator Obama now admits he sees racism whenever a white person is speaking on the subject of the racial divide in this country.

How in the world the Democratic party, represented by Barack Obama as our nominee, thinks he's going to get blue collar votes by basically calling white people racist is beyond me. There's prejudice going round but it isn't coming from people challenging Senator Obama, who are being pounced on for calling him out. I know a racist dog whistle when I hear one and this beauty from Obama is it. Racism works both ways."

http://taylormarsh.com/

FL & MI for the short term have been closed out of the
attempt to resovle the vote issue, whether it was
Obama slow dancing a solution to the deadline or other factors, it remains a nightmare in waiting for the DNC.

Today, whether by co-incidence or co-ordination, the
media (cable tv, NY Times, Wash Post, Obama slanted
blogs) all want everyone to know that no matter what
Hillary does she can not overtake Obama, all her
efforts are futile. I suspect the volume to increase that
she can not possibly win regardless of whether she were to win any, most or all of the upcoming primaries. After all the media has already set the bar for her to win in each & every state at over 60%.

Agreed, leave it to Democrats to snatch defeat from
victory, remember this was supposed to be the election
that could not be lost.

"In August in 92, we had to make a decision," Mickey Kantor the former U.S. Secretary of Commerce, Clinton adviser, and free trade advocate recalled for the Huffington Post. "President Clinton had to make a decision as governor, whether or not he would support [George H.W. Bush's] NAFTA, and of course he did... Hillary Clinton was one of the great skeptics in the discussion as to whether he should do. So she was always skeptical beginning in 1992 and onward."

With regard to Hillary's hair (I cannot believe I would even comment on this but oh, well): I think she has gorgeous hair. Some days it is a little flat (as in her Jon Stewart's appearance) but, most of the time, she looks fabulous. And Barack is very nice looking too. A much more enlightening discussion would be something along the lines of how big their brains are à la the movie Defending Your Life (one of my all-time favorites.)

ET

CBob's other site was where he didn't do a lot of original writing, but posted his attention to global warming, ecology, and the destructive effects of man on his surroundings

http://coloradobob1.newsvine.com/

Again, just another view of a wonderfully multifaceted human being. An awful lot of us lost a great deal of sleep trying to stay awake for some of the all night conversations, and as you can tell he is well loved. Even if he is past tense, the affection isn't.

"He would have stayed on this site longer but he was harassed by a nobody."

WHO? I can't remember and now I'm pissed. Colorado Bob was the Ritz.

Pardon me folks, but shouldn't Barack gain a few pounds and grow his hair out a little so his funny ears won't be so obvious? Does anyone really give a crap about Hillary's hair or is this just more petty BS to take a gratuitous shot at her? (As if I didn't know the answer before I posed the question).

I have an interest in Evan Bayh because I am a native Hoosier Stater and as I have blogged about, I met him at a rally years ago.
Craig posted that Bayh is an Inside-The-Beltway lightweight, and maybe that's so...right now he doesn't have the clout that Senator Lugar does. I am all for him, no matter what happens with HRC down the road. Bayh's demeanor is sort of like Chris Collinsworth's, the football color man and former Cincinnati Bengal...sometimes sort of an "aw shucks" aura about him, but he always knows the game.

Bear -- are you around? I just heard the end of a news story about Rev. Wright coming to Dallas/Fort Worth for an award....some school won't allow him to get it on their property...and there are death threats....Holy crap! Texas just keeps on and on!

CBob was one of the reasons I first got hooked on this blog. Between CBob, 9/11 and others (like POP) we were exposed to tons of experiences that were interesting, enlightening, funny, serious and so on. Windows into their lives that they were generous enough to share.

Bowmanc,

You're one of the reasons I return here.

The source of the Wright videos being circulated was an aide to Senator McCain. The aide has now been suspended.

http://www.politico.com/

Sure hope CBob is fishin somewhere nice.. just lazin along in a rowboat with a string-stick rod... think that might be his idea of heaven... Bless ya, CBob.. I miss ya too..

Patsi,

Don't you remember the permanently barred and unlamented Ditzy Fritzy?

Bowman,

Do you ever visit PoP's blog?

http://morning-martini.blogspot.com/

I wish she would come back for a visit.

On and PoP is an Obama supporter, but most of all just a beautiful person.

Now if we could get Blue in Dallas back for more regular visits.

nice comment by obama on philly radio this morning ...he continues to throw gramma from the train ....he said "shes a typical white person"........ben smith (politico) is getting blasted from obamabots for reporting it

Poor gramma.

Well, I've got to go - Mrs Pogo is on me to get my old Trooper registered so I have to go to the local DMV purgatory, where nothing moves quickly, if at all. Later to all.

And I hope that all of you know that you are the reason I come back, agree with you or not.

Once in a while I wander over there, to see how that cat is doing.

Cbob got upset at Fritz? I thought that was TR Rich? or I'm certain it could be both, as Fritz was one ornery rascal.

Look what turns fifty today!

http://news.bbc.co.uk:80/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7292252.stm

Peace to all trail mixers.

Bowman

The cat is complaining about all the "ducks". Apparently things are breaking all over the house and all he hears is "duck this" and "duck that". He is definitely laying low until tempers improve.

Gordo:

ALL white people ARE racist. So are all black people, Latinos, etc. We all harbor racism to a certain extent. But the key is how you act on those feelings and how you actually treat other people.

Taylor Marsh is a dumb ass.

EuroTom (and all Clintonites):

I appreciate the kind words. But I do feel it necessary to note that slurs, slanders, and bad names are only ONE way to insult people.

I suggest that some of you Clinton people take a second look at the tone of some of your posts. I know that I have often been pretty insulted by some posts on this blog (especially back in the beginning).

I get that most of the people on here are smart and well-informed - but your votes count just the same as everyone else's - so watch the condescension - it can really be hurtful (and very counterproductive).

(And don't worry about me - I don't take any of this shit personally...I used to wait on tables and now I am a lawyer - so I am used to being treated with disrespect!)

And now back to your regularly scheduled bitch-fest!!

". They've both dropped quite a few F bombs in their few years that can be traced back to me, LOL, my cuss word of choice."

ROFL, JennBe -- One day when my daughter was in college, she was home and we were driving somewhere. A guy cut her off and she dropped the f-bomb. It was the first time I ever heard her do it and I about died. She said, "Are you kidding? So I use that word? Are you my mom?"

9/11 -- I do remember that now. It was awful.

awww damn.. paul scofield died.. they're droppin like flies! :(

9/11

We may have to drag some of the disappeared back here kicking and screaming if only to get through this political season. It is hard to recreate a place and time, but we can give it a good honest try.

All stories, music, autobiographical tales on any subject welcome. Out of courtesy we usually say something nice about our host's post of the day, and then into the free for all... Where never is heard a discouraging word and the skies are not cloudy all day.

signed,

The Deer and Antelope

Obama church published Hamas terror manifesto

"Compares charter calling for murder of Jews to Declaration of Independence

JERUSALEM – Sen. Barack Obama's Chicago church reprinted a manifesto by Hamas that defended terrorism as legitimate resistance, refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist and compared the terror group's official charter – which calls for the murder of Jews – to America's Declaration of Independence.

The Hamas piece was published on the "Pastor's Page" of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., whose anti-American, anti-Israel remarks landed Obama in hot water, prompting the presidential candidate to deliver a major race speech earlier this week."

(Yes, I know it is WND.)

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59456

Once more in honor of our friend Colorado Bob....remember that amazing leatherwork?

"Leather Artist since 67', World Record Shot-Hole-Driller, Pretentious Ass & Creative Genius, Agnostic Faith Healer, Cowboy, Lumberjack, Traveler,Lifesaver,Historian,Student of Human Folly & the Natural Sciences,Dancer,Story Teller, Costumer, Designer, Art Director, Manager, Screen Printer, Sign Maker, Plumber, Cabinet Maker/ Finish Carpenter, Star Scout, Teacher, Trucker, & Inventor"

One of my favorites is: Student of Human Folly

I really really like this article

David Mamet: Why I Am No Longer a 'Brain-Dead Liberal'
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0811,374064,374064,1.html/1

Loved the ending paragraph

"The right is mooing about faith, the left is mooing about change, and many are incensed about the fools on the other side—but, at the end of the day, they are the same folks we meet at the water cooler. Happy election season"

Jack

Warren,

The only comment I have about your post is that we do love irony and sometimes the tongue is a little too deep in the cheek. When in doubt, just ask. Usually no slight or insult was meant, just some humor that went flat. We seem to have gotten away from our two law code:

Thou Shalt Not Offend

Thou Shalt Not Be too Easily Offended

Let me get this right:

It is quite possible that by the time Super delegates meet to decide the election, Clinton may be enjoying wide popularity margins, a good victory in Penn along with increased support in the remaining primaries, polls indicating McCain beating Barak and Hillary beating McCain (of course without squaring the FU votes by many Blue States or decreased turnout by Black voters (who are going to vote for McCain?).

Obama supporters would rather snatch defeat from victory once again? Gore did it. Kerry did it. Maybe Obama can defy expectations.

They say the Democrats don't know how to get elected and Republicans don't know how to govern. I'm not sure both haven't lost the smarts to govern, but Democrats may likely show us how they can't get elected despite Republican assistance.

One thing is for certain. Obama's policies on the economy and healthcare, energy and environment remain dubious while his credibility and judgement remain clouded. There are so many things that have reached critical mass as people learn more about Obama. The Rezko-related connections, the advisor vetting, the record scrutiny, the Pastor and anti-American-related connections will continue to grow. This all could have been managed better by a campaign staff that had a clue about reality. Much of the mess could have been avoided by the DNC and the foolishness over Florida and Michigan. A huge role goes towards Liberal media that fuels and filters so much of the news cycle.

If one grants that the Obama campaign was a smart move to begin with, then this was the tragic consequence of his not dealing with race (and his screenplay) from the start instead of using race as a tool during a primary fight and then again as some shield. In this regard, I still feel Obama had the primary responsibility on this matter. He had a church for twenty years and a message to go along with it as a Black American. He whined about Hillary's tears. And was constantly straddling the line between civil rights and palying race. He had advisors and mentors, supporters and friends he not only knew about, but featured them or worked with even as indicted or selling hate tapes. Obama rushed into the WH quest hoping his oratorical skills would allow him to triangulate between a Leftist Base, the pretense of centrism (thanks Joe) and the creation of an "authentic" story and message of hope and change grounded in the spinning of a sparse record.

He used his Superstar status to trumpet his mission on THE stage of honesty, outside of the box thinkng, independence, sound judgement and the "high road". The fumbled debate questions, the snide remarks, the ignoring or dismissing of serious vetting or contradictions in his record or policies accumulate and one can go on vague rhetorical excursions only for so long. If media was really serious, it would examine all the references to other writers as well as Duval Patrick. When he gets angry, or is troubled, Obama's charm fades. He searches for words and oftens returns to Iraq, or race, or business as usual, the pettiness and tactics of others.

Jesse, Sharpton, Wright have lined up behind Obama and do not want to speak about race, despite Obama's call for discourse. There will be no equivilancy between White rage and Black rage, no roll back of affirmative action or welfare. I am sure the Hispanic community likes this message. They are wondering about Obama's role in abandoning the Amnest fight. They would like to know why their districts count for less delegates or why Florida won't be counted. If one assumes Barak running was a good idea to begin with, then his campaign utterly ignored the obvious vunerabilities and relied on media support as well as the Republicans to hurt Hillary. He saw his caucus set up and the backing of a largely Lefter blogworld a Deaniac model to generate support and money. Obama had ample time to script a more honest biography, establish strong policies and advisors. He had time to answer the questions BEFORE the obvious ones were eventually asked by a media under fire. This is bad judgement on top of bad judgement. HIs top advisor (as Powers was sometimes called by the Press) thought her book tour was important than being a team. Rice has shown ample fumbling while Malley and Zbig are kept at a safe distance. Did Obama think Jews, Hispanics, Women and even white centrist Democrats and Independents would not seek real asnwers to real doubts, or was Iraq and We-Hate-Bush all Obama needed along with media/DNC help to get elected?

That so much stuff from "the first time I was really proud" to Malcom X, to Rezko, to Wright, to Zbig, to "Bill said racist things", to not-so-bold in Illinois , to Amnesty, to he'll call the first responders, to the line Obama just gave tabove (see Gordo) to explain his Grandmother remark , -without the media reacting long ago is astoundingly poor journalism. Hillary would have been crushed into a tin can by now. The media spins their story that converged with Obama's story. NOw voters will have to pick fact from fiction.

America doesn't want stories. It wants action, toughness, bipartisan centrist solutions, positive and condifent energy, intelligence, principle, realism -SO WE CAN HOPE A CHANGE FOR THE BETTER is coming.

The fact that the Democratic Party is melting under its own pollution is a fact not lost on this Independent (Hillary supporting) voter. The Yellow Brick Road is hardly an apt discription. More like the road to one where fast.

Warren,

The only reason why I would be careful in an urabn city, on a poor lit road as two Black men in less than fresh attire approached me would be statistical knowledge. Those statistic could be based on economic factors or psycholoigical factrs, but racial genetic factors play no role.

You have not made a case that apprehension is a racist reaction. One can see this confusion in the case of terrorism. One could be apprehensive because they ARE racists, but racism isn't at all a necessary condition.

Jack

Thank you for that Mamet article, but pass the index because I sprayed the monitor on the first page with his submission of the World's Perfect Theatrical Review:

"I never understood the theater until last night. Please forgive everything I've ever written. When you read this I'll be dead."

I do not believe all people are racist. that cannot be universal. I think that people often use words improperly. Racism is different from bigotry and prejudice. All related but not exactly the same.

Racism: a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

Bigotry: stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.

prejudice unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, esp. of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group.

A friend without a pc asked me to question if anyone had ever heard Obama say God bless America?It is irrevelant to me but I said I would ask.Anyone?

harborwoman,

You know a lot of things.

You didn't know CBob.

All people are not equal. All pokes are not with a clean stick and an even touch.

If he is your friend you have no need to defend him -- or to diminish the experience others have had of him.

Shall I treat you like he treated CBob?

Or shall I wait until you are really really sick and dying to do so.

All things are not equal. All people are not good. A mere taste in friendship is not something to spit at others who know differently.

Bad acts pile up until they form a bad person.

BO won the most states but in Wyoming 10,000 voted in caucus while 2 million voted in Ohio.So if you add up those small republican caucus states they could equal one large state,so counting the no,of states is a "fairy tale".And besides Wyoming voted 69% rep. to 29% dem in 2004

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Winner Ty

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/03/obama-vs-florida-and-michigan.html#comment-55638

So true max, so true. That was a rant extraordinaire!

Clinton Surpporters and dem moderates are forgetting a section of the American public who will play a big role in the general elections if obama is on that ticket. It's dose guyz dat couldn't care less a few years ago. ---The youth.

The fact is that to youths, clinton is so dirty and boring they'll rather vote for a self imposed curfew on election day. Also don't forget that these people are nt republican or democrat. They are the majority of the unwavering