Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

God Morning Craig,

Barack Hussein Obama is compassionate. he takes the high road on a miriad of issues. If there is only one point of fact about his charactor that he has proven over and over again, its his desire for the high road and his insistance that he and WE take it if anything is going to get done in this country.

I like that very much and thanks Craig for making this a bit more plain to all. ;0)

Dear Craig, Everyone
Good Morning all!

YAY Craig on Morning Joe :-))
--Heather

At least Obama didn't do the old "I mispoke."

Dear Craig:
Great point about Obama bringing up Pastor Wright and not Hillary...Craig you were great but interview was far to short. hopefully you will have an in-studio interview with more time.

Sincerely,
Heather

Good Morning All_

Just watchched Craig on Morning Joe> Boy--did he get bumped off fast when he pointed out that the poll they have talking about this morning over-sampled African Americans. No wonder Hillary's positives were down and BHO's were up. I'll be watching to see ig Joe brings this up again during the show.

I often wondered why young people, 18 to 25 y.o., were so in love BHO. When you think about it the answerer is obvious, very obvious as was pointed out in an NPR interview conducted yesterday at a BHO North Carolina rally. According to this one 18 year old female, 'Obama connects with the younger people because he is so laid-back, he is just like us.' And that's why she is going to vote for BHO. Nothing about policy matters, just that he was laid-back, just like her. The reason the answer is so obvious is because this age group has little or no real life experiences to relate to, and BHO with his BS polyanna message falls right into their way of thinking. Her answer is very typical of the BHO cult following crowd, and so very scary.

Hi Craig:

I just watched you on Morning Joe and you were brilliant as always. I look
forward to your appearances on TV. As one poster here pointed out, you were
sadly whisked off MSNBC this morning when you so reasonably pointed out
that the latest NBC poll judging Hillary's negatives was slanted and clearly unfair. You seem consistently the most sane and rational of all the pundits.
I agree with your other comments on the show when you responded to
Bill Clinton's statements about how this Democratic campaign isn't at all
mean-spirited in comparison to many other elections. You wisely pointed out
that elections are meant for lively debates and confrontations. And lastly,
bravo to you for being the ONLY commentator, so far, to defend Hillary's
right to answer the question asked of her about Obama's Rev. Wright
issue. Her benign response was outrageously demonized by the media. You're not only clever but you looked very cute this morning, as well. Have you had work done? Just kidding.

Today's theme? Enjoy the scenery!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV5hXsVpQQk&feature=related

Fry......we were talking once about war and peace and the art of war by sun tzu and I was wondering if you'd ever read the ANABASIS.....it's one you'd like if you havent.....

Pentagon Holds Thousands of Americans 'Prisoners of War'

By Penny Coleman, AlterNet. Posted March 26, 2008.

There are at least 60,000 of them, but they're not on the DoD's list of soldiers missing in action.

Here's how the Government treats our troops. Nazi Dick Heinrich Himmler Cheney calls them volunteers, however in reality they are not once there contract is over.

There slaves to the Death Machine of Adolph Bush and his illegal War and Occupation of Iraq.

Read a Winter Soldiers experience in Iraq at link below and see how the great Stop Loss is killing soldiers needlessly.

http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/80461/

Hi, Craig!
Great commentary about the campaign on "Mornin' Joe" this morning! You make me want to be a better Democrat. I'm surprised they still have you on when you refuse to wave the Obama flag. Hang in there, man!

I just saw Craig on Morning Joe, and have a question about the following statement he made: "One problem with this poll, Joe, that I think needs to be fully explained, is there was an oversampling of African-Americans in this poll, in order to get the internal numbers more accurate. But there does seem to be a reflection in this poll of a higher percentage of African-Americans than in the voting pool at large, and that probably skewed things in Obama's favor given the lopsided numbers for him among African-Americans."

What? What basis do you have for interpreting the poll this way? Over-sampling does not necessarily mean overrepresentation, if the poll results were scaled appropriately to bring the "over sampled" polling of African Americans back in line with the proportion of African Americans in teh total population. What makes you think they don't know what they're doing? You just went on national TV and implied this... will you correct the record if you're wrong?

The real news out of the poll is that Hillary's numbers and "ceiling" are GOING DOWN.

I wish Tim Russert would stop lying!

Obama is NOT getting nor will he get the Independent Vote. To say that is an insult to the intelligence of anyone that understands U.S. political ideology.

Obama cannot even appeal to his base, [25% of Hillary supporters will vote McCain] how can an extreme left candidate appeal to independents in the general election.

Like I posted earlier and Joe said today as well...where will Obama's support go with independents when he has to define himself on guns, death penalty, abortion, gay marriage etc.

The pundits want Hillary out, all I can say to them is the same thing Mr. Spock said to Stonn "Stonn, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing as wanting." Translation: be careful what you wish for it just may come true.

--Heather

barry, my point is that this oversampling needs explanation, lest its results be subject to suspicion. what you wrote here is certainly more than we've heard from the pollster, who only revealed the oversampling without explanation

A hearty welcome to some of the newbies on the blog this morning. Come back early and often!

when god wants to punish us he (or she) answers our prayers.

arab proverb

P.S. Craig:
I forget to credit you also on election experience of Obama you mentioned on Morning Joe. One election against Alan Keys does not experience make.
Other than losing every office he ran for what is Alan Keys claim to fame other than an appointment post?

Sincerely,
Heather

Okay , if this doesn't get a laugh , nothing will. My Uncle Don sent an e-mail to my sister asking her to pray for my cousin Randy who is in the hospital with 4 boils on his "buttocks".

You can't pick your family, they are what they are, but you can pick your friends, and you can certainly and freely pick what church you go attend, and the pastor, priest, bishop, rabbi who presides over the services. BHO choose to stay with this one particular church and the Rev. Wright for 20 years. 20 years of nodding one's head in agreement with racist, hate American sermons. BHO must have like what he was hearing, he got married there and had his two daughters baptized there by the Rev. Wright.. Hillary has made some blunders in her campaign by being to soft and not going for the jugular early on. This is major flaw in BHO armor, and I hope HRC continues to expose this and other BHO personal flaws. This is the only way the MSM will report on BHO short-comings is if HRC brings them up.

sturgeone,

Can't say as I have, but I'll look it up. Thanks :-)

Craig, your analysis this morning was totally accurate as anyone who has dabbled in politics knows. It's a blood sport where the loser is dumped in a wheel barrow and carried off the field. Ask Gore. Ask Kerry. They know.

Your point that Mr Obama, as a candidate, has never faced a genuine Republican attack should not be ignored. I think he will be savaged in a campaign that will give new meaning to 'shock and awe'.

Sheila, in comment number 1 (ta-ta!) to this thread, suggests that he will take the high road if elected and that the country will respond to his leadership. I disagree.

I don't see any indication that the public, including moderate Democrats, will welcome a shift to a dramatically progressive administration.

The vast majority of Americans, I think, distrust candidates they believe to be at the polar extremes of policy. And, that's exactly where the Republicans will place Mr Obama by using his own words against him.

In the meantime, even right now, Mr McCain is shifting to a centrist position.

Actually Craig:
A more correct word in 7.35 am post would have been campaign experience as opposed to election experience, sorry about that.

--Heather

sturgeone,

LOL, right now I'm wading through the complete works of Flavius-Josephus. So it may be a while before I tackle ANABASIS, although a Goggle search seem pretty interesting.

perhaps loyalty trumps politics in Obama's mind. I am no longer a religious person, having left a church for their narrow views on homosexuality, but there are members and former members of that church that I remain loyal to. Heck, there are a couple I'd let borrow my toothbrush.

And frankly, Obama doesn't need to take the bait about Clinton's trip to Bosnia. The mainstream media squawking heads on MSNBC (I don't include you, Craig, just so you know) have made so much hay from this story (which, to me, is growing very tired indeed) that Obama could just enjoy his vacation and let them do his work for him last week.

obama may or may not get the independent vote.
he will not get the older white female vote' the most loyal' dedicated 'democrats.
i don't know much about women' but i do know they
don't take lightly being insulted 'ignored and
dismissed out of hand.and they have a long'' long''
memory'
if you don't believe me ask your wife what dumbass
thing you said in a argument ten years ago.
she will be able to qoute you word for word.

Heather, I bet you, as I, admire Mr Keyes for his passion and oratorical ability. But, in seeking election in Illinois, he was clearly perceived as a carpetbagger.

He certainly was never boring. :-)

Craig, you know I think you're great, but today I must take issue with a few things you mentioned on Morning Joe, First mentioning that Hillary answered the question about Rev. Wright," and that's what we all want, Politicians to answer question, then we complain about her when she did answer," the problem is when she wouldn't answer the question during the contraversy and avoided it like the plaque.

Secondly, when you mentioned that Obama hasn't had any real competition running against Republicans, Who exactly has Hillary run against that was so hard? Rick Lazio? If defending your arguement, you're counting President Clinton's runs for office for Hillary, that's a bit of a stretch.

Just calling it like I see it this morning.

JennBe: Hillary has faced the Republican attack machine in many ways and is still standing. Few would question her toughness and resilience.

"Can somebody tell me how Hllary did on the plastic surgeory show? I mean on Greta´s show?"

Jason,

It was pretty softball, but Sen. Clinton just gave straight forward answers. No fireworks, But Greta isn't the most intense questioner when faced with a real person rather than "celebrity film at 11".

Ally, you're right. She's proven herself to be solid brass.

Dear Flatus:
Even though I am the new kid on the block here, you seem to know me to a certain degree.

You are correct in your assessment I do admire Alan Keys, I find him honest and like Pat Buchanan a good advocate for Catholicism and he does have what I consider to be better oratory skills as compared to Obama, but thats just my opinion.

It is just that as far as political ideology is concerned we are worlds apart.

Sincerely,
Heather

From the WSJ

How the numbers look for Obama & Clinton.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120657950286167233.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

I don't really think this is the year that hope prevails, it may for Obama in the primaries but I am skeptical that he wins the general. The democratic party is on a path to some seismic event, probably kicking the Clinton's out or them leaving on their own, if the Obama faction wins.

If it becomes more radical towards the left, there will defections. Only two places to go, Republican or Inde. And it looks like with McCain the republican party has chosen more of a moderate that it might have.

Jason ------------------------------------

Video of Hillary on Greta´s show.

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/

Hillary has not formally run for office against a credible Republican Canidate. And I'm not buying the arguement that she ia so tough when she spent weeks whining about press, being asked the 1st question in debates, saying she has been treated unfairly because she "misspoke", and now has her husband out thier saying let's just fight it out. Gimme a break, not you Ally, I'm refering to Sen. Clinton.

Craig: Loved the appearance. Got up early to watch it from Iowa.

I know that HIllary was vilified for her recent tactic to infer she would pick Obama for no. 2 if she won the nomination. However, I believe the message still resonated with many voters who find solace in the belief that she would pick Obama as a no. 2 but do not believe Obama would pick her for VP. There are many people who believe the key to victory in November is the Dream Ticket and do not accept the Nancy Pelosis of the world telling them that this is not possible. When the media and the Obama camp tell us this primary campaign is over, they are not talking to a few diehard Clinton supporters. They are talking to MOST DEMOCRATS because I believe that most democrats support Clinton and sorry, but last I heard we were nominating a Democratic candidate so why in the world don't Pelosi and Dean give a damn about the members of their own party?

Yes, I know, I know. Obama is ahead and it was "rude" to imply that he would be the VP. But the fact remains that neither candidate will win this thing without the Superdelegates and Hillary inferring who her VP candidate will be is a fair tactic in a campaign.

Dear Jennbe:

Had circumstances permitted Rudy Giuliani to run for the senate instead of Lazio she would have defeated him, although it is hard to prove a negative. That is just my opinion for what it's worth
Sincerely,
Heather

Rick Lazio did serve 4 terms in the US Congress. Keyes has zero experience serving as a legislator. So based on that Lazio was the more worthy opponent then BHO's Alan Keyes.

JennBe: I don't want to rehash the 90s or even the early years of the millennium but anyone who thinks Hillary has been given a free pass by the press or the right-wing attack machine must have been living in a cave or without access to newspapers or television for the last 16 years. She had to work her ASS OFF in the Senate to prover herself and she won over colleagues on both sides of the aisle. Unfortunately, I haven't seen the same workhorse ethic from Obama. Hope, yes. Results, not so much.

Heather, I don't buy that Rudy only left that race because of the Cancer scare. I think he also saw the writing on the wall that he would not win, he pretty much did the same in his run for the Republican nomination by hiding out in FL.

Flatus,

Alan Keyes is a professional "former ambassador and candidate" for which he gets paid handsomely on the rubber chicken circuit.

I remember the 90's very well, and from my perspective I remember her whining about "a vast, right wing conspiracy against her." Which also goes to my arguement against her toughness.

The fact she just didn't rest on her Husband's success, and went out to create a name for herself, should be commended and is a better argument for Hillary than the "I'm tough because I've been targeted by Republicans".

I think I need a stronger patch today, wonder if I can put two on?

Jennbe......some Allen Ginsburg for ya.....in re smoking.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCfACgnXj9E

Hillary's OTHER Fabrication -- Chelsy's Jogg on 911!

Writers, Dick Morris and Eileen McGann, disclose an even more outrageous Fabrication Hillary' has told the American public that has not been disclosed, until now. Here is an excerpt: "After Sept. 11, Hillary had a problem. New Yorkers were desperately focused on their own need for protection and they were saddled with a senator who was not one of them — an Arkansan, or was it a Chicagoan? Interviewed on the “Today Show” one week after Sept. 11, she spun an elaborate yarn. The kindest thing we could say was that it was a fantasy. Or a fabrication.

She said that Chelsea was jogging around the World Trade Center on Sept. 11 and happened to duck into a coffee shop when the airplanes hit. She said that this move saved Chelsea’s life. But Chelsea told Talk magazine that she was in a friend’s apartment four miles from ground zero when the first plane hit. Her friend called her, waking her up, and told her to turn on the TV. On television, she saw the second plane hit, disproving Hillary’s claim that “she heard the plane hit. She heard it. She did.”

So why did Hillary make up the story about Chelsea? Most likely to was because her co-senator (and implicit rival for the voters’ affection), a real New Yorker, Charles Schumer (D), spoke of his daughter, who attended Stuyvesant High School, located next to the Trade Center, being at real risk on Sept. 11. Hillary needed to make herself part of the scene.

She invented the entire story on national television, the “Today Show,” and didn’t blink an eye. Her fabrication on the “Today Show” was no unique foray. It is her standard M.O. It gives us pause in evaluating all of her stories and calls into question her entire credibility." (From the Hill Blog, Mar. 27, 08)

It seems Hillary will do anything to win. This week, Hillary, a consumate Actress & Mistress of Spin, (=s Phony) sat down with her arch enemey, Richard Mellon Scaife the Pittsburgh Gazette, the very one who during her White House years accused her of the murder of Vince Foster and said that Bill and she had committed 60 murders to hide their crimes, in an ill-advised and ill-timed manner to re-introduce the Rev. Wright issue -- by the way, the very Rev. Wright that they Invited to the White House. Then they sent out Sen. McGovern to re-introduce the Gender Fight, so now we have a racial and gender fight to instigate more division while trying to Divert attention from her Big Gaf, the Bosnia Tale of Sniper Fire, which we all know now is a complete Fabrication told THREE times, which is a betrayal of the public trust and goes right to the Heart of character. They somtimes even Stage their audiences. They have been telling these Tall Tales for years and this time got caught. However, the American People do Demand that thier Politicians be trustworthy and truthful! And, if it was not for Rush Limbaugh, and Bill's visit to Rush during the Texas Primarys, Barack would have won Texas but for the 100,000 Republican votes casted for Hillary which put her slightly over the top. However, the Republicans who vote for Barack, genuinely like him unlike the Republicans who vote for Hillary, as a way to "bloody" Barack up, as stated by Rush Limbaugh! As for her Tonya Harding, Tonya was sent packing in disgrace! As for Hillary's scheme to make Barack look "unelectable", I say "Chickens Coming Home to Roost"! I say No More "Do and Say Anything" Politicians!

JennBe: I don't think she imagined the right-wing conspiracy at all. I think it was real. Of course I am probably just towing the party line for the wife of the only Democratic President to be elected to two terms since Franklin Roosevelt who left office with a 65% approval rating, the highest for any President who left office since World War II. Just call me a loyal Democrat. Boy this country has a short memory.

Thanks Sturge, that was hilarious and helped to calm me down.

oooops.....I never watched the whole thing before......lol

Jamie said, "Alan Keyes is a professional "former ambassador and candidate" for which he gets paid handsomely on the rubber chicken circuit."

Of course.

I was thinking of him as a candidate primarily from his 'presence' in the debates. He is brilliant, He can dissect an onion, getting to the core, while retaining each of the removed layers.

He is just so far to the right, that he is unelectable (thank goodness).

I distrust anyone who speaks with absolute certainty about anything involving humans.

I understand Ally, I have always been a loyal Republican, until my party went awry(sp.?) in the past few years.

Craig,
is it possible for us (US citizens living abroad) to see your appearances somewhere online?
Thnx....

Furthermore,
I will repeat what I said days earlier...Please see the Hillary before Maggie Williams, and the Hillary since Maggie Williams.... A wolrd of difference.
relaxed, energized and beaming...
Hillary will wear Barrack out, and then some

Jamie & Gordo, thnx for the info. I think her strongest comment was about the seating of the FL & Mi delegates. She just said: they WILL be seated. STRONG.....

I like THIS Hillary!

I distrust anyone who speaks with absolute certainty about anything involving humans.

Posted by: Flatus | March 27, 2008 8:46 AM

How about humans who start off sentences with the word "most" as in "most americans," or "most democrats," or "most african-americans" etc....one of the constructs which irks me.......

Jason:

http://www.youtube.com/user/POLExpediters

Sturge, I made it through 3 minutes, if that played everytime I thought about smoking, it would only take a day and I'd never think of smoking again.

mornin' all - great MoJo appearance, Craig. You know, I think I've figured out the flap you got from Brian, et al. for your various comments about the race being skewed toward Hillary - if a commentator gives a neutral analysis based on polls and his or her viewof how politics is played and how the candidates are doing from those perspectives, it is viewed as being pro Hillary by the Obama camp if the analysis doesn't favor Obama only.

JennBe, that is crap. Giuliani, Lazio and Jeanine Pirro were all credible candidates with substantive political experience to bring to the table. In in her case, she did face them - Lazio was a sitting U.S. Rep when he ran and drew 43% of the vote, and until Pirro's baggage became known, she brought her Westchester County DA experience and a fair strength from her exposure on TV as a legal commentator to the table - until they either dropped out of the race or decided, as in Giuliani's case, simply not to pursue the office. I'll grant you that Spenser, the Yonkers mayor, didn't stand a chance.

I woke up at 3:00 a.m. and thought ... Craig live ... rolled over and went back to sleep. Hope you get the video up soon.

MSNBC seems to be finally getting a bit of the message. They will broadcast both candidates speeches on the Economy.

The Hunting of the President

"This feature documentary focuses on the 10 year campaign to destroy President William Jefferson Clinton and First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton. Based on the best-selling book The Hunting of the President by authors Joe Conason and Gene Lyons, the film reveals how the antagonists sought to drive President Clinton and his administration out of office. Going behind the scenes, filmmakers identify a loose cabal of enemies who were motivated by spite, ideological zeal and personal gain. It also depicts the story of how the media was abused in the process, as news organizations and their reporters succumbed to this scandal phenomena in an unprecedented reversal of muckraking journalism."

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eGX0m7syrRo

I think I would risk death rather than look like this.

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2008/03/mccains_rogue_s/

Jack

Thanks Gordo, I won't even try to defend the Republicans that went after Bill Clinton for his personal life. I did not agree with that, there were far more policy driven issues that could have been debated. Republicans wasting thier time with that campaign was the beginning of problems for the situation my party is now.

re: Obama's loyalty to Rev Wright

Loyalty, allegiance, fidelity all imply a sense of duty or of devoted attachment to something or someone. Loyalty connotes sentiment and the feeling of devotion that one holds for one's country, creed, family, friends, in this case a preacher who preaches bigotry, hatred and falsehoods and anti- American beliefs to a minority population.

I can't see this loyalty as a positive for Obama - in any shape or form. I see many question marks and poor judgment.

bachangel

that story is false and you no it ,,,,,clinton never said that ........... it was a story made up by dick morris and has been written about and debunked

Unfortunately don't have time this morning to read everyone's comments

:-(

will try to catch-up later

Just wanted to say that Craig was GREAT on MoJo today...thanks for calling Mika out. ROFL

how about MSNBC reporting rev wright's anti israel and anti italian writings .....i almost fell over ....i usually just click them on and off ........

"Her answer is very typical of the BHO cult following crowd, and so very scary."

Agreed, Fry. And it reminds me what happened when the country elected a president they wanted to drink a beer with.

...thanks for calling Mika out. ROFL
--Wendy

Ohhhhhhhh Craig said something about Mika and I missed it??? Does anyone have the interview??

A reporter asked Hillary a question about the Pastor the other day and she answered it but the media is making out like she brought it up. Now a candidate can't answer any questions anymore without it being accused of bringing up different issues. Give us a break.

I am so curious about this:

Just on Faux News "Male Birth Control Pill
I would love to see the contraindications on this pill LOL *Caution a small but significant amount of males tested reported, loss of body hair, flaring hips, puffy breasts, loss of facial hair, mood swings, possible desire to raid the wife's boudoir bloating and irritability" :-))

Please discuss this medication with your doctor.

The funny part was the doctor they interviewed said once the men stop taking the medication the sperm *should* return to normal. LOL hardly reassuring to men!

I cannot see any man willing to take take this snake oil.

--Heather :-))

Time to Hear Obama's Speech now

good morning gang....

getting ready to walk out the door and catch the bus to Mont Tremblant....

I'll be back online Monday.....
until then..... everyone take care and don't beat each other up too badly.... :)

Morning all.

Here's a must-read from today's Wall Street Journal. It's a level-headed, statistical analysis of the numbers from Florida and Michigan...and proposes a solution for a way out of the mess. Basic solution is to seat Florida as is, and seat Michigan with a total adjusted in favor of Obama. The link:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120657950286167233.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

Craig I thought you liked it when a candidate did the unconventional, you know Hillary's lying about (oppps I meant fib) Bosnia, Obama bringing up Wright.

BHO looks worn out...his eyes look puffy. He must have had one of those "I feel more tired than before I left" vacations...

Goodness I am a Prophet:
In an earlier posting I said the GOP war machine would paint Obama as a tax and spend extreme liberal and lo and behold before the messiah Obama's speech is even completed McCain as called him a "tax and spend liberal lol

As Betty Davis said "Fasten your seat belts its going to be a bumpy ride"

--Heather

As I see it now, the media and Obama's campaign have set it up so he can't lose. Even when he goes down in flames in the general, and he will, they will be able to blame the Clintons. I guess that's the price Bill had to pay for eight years of economic growth and not sending soldiers to die for bullshit wars.

This is a country so in need of some sort of messiah, some new religiosity, that the populace will invent it if need be. So many Obama supporters remind me SO much of the rabid Bushies. Very, Very similar personalities.

And just so nobody forgets, a hell of a lot of pundits and economists believed NAFTA was a solid move ahead. Including Lou Dobbs, I might add.

Heather: The good news is that at least Obama will "tax and spend" as opposed to the last 8 years where Bush has "cut tax and spend." I think fiscal responsibility will be a losing argument for Republicans this year...

I think the 3rd option in the WSJ piece would work and be fair to all. Then the rest of the states would have a say on who wins.

The third option would be to let the early primary votes stand, and select delegates according to the outcome. On a statistical basis, this is clearly the right result for Florida. The easiest solution for Michigan is to simply award the 45% of the vote uncommitted or for another candidate to Mr. Obama. This appears to be the intent of those voters, as well as the likely result of a rematch. It would reduce Mr. Obama's current edge in pledged delegates to 115 from 167. It would also reduce the adjusted popular-vote margin, that converts caucus votes to primary votes, to an edge for Mr. Obama of 466,000. If Mrs. Clinton wins Pennsylvania by the margin polls now suggest, the two candidates would be essentially tied in popular votes, with an Obama edge in delegates of about 80. That would leave the remaining primaries and the superdelegates to decide the outcome of an essentially tied race.

Dear Patsi:
You took the words right out of my mouth :-))

P.S. this Obama speech is once again long on rhetoric and short on substance, just a ploy to the super delegates and the media and that Abraham Lincoln podium is over the top.

Is Obama getting desperate?

--Heather

obama to aides'' more flags ''we need more flags

Dear Ally:
Two wrongs don't make a right I agree with you about Bush but get back to me when property taxes double under Obama.

Sincerely,
Heather

WOW...MSNBC actually cut off BHO's speech...yikes!!

So far a brilliant speech by Obama, great idea to deliver it from the Cooper Union, and nice that he was introduced by Bloomberg, too bad MSNBC cut away from it.

It was cut because its all rhetoric and no substance lol
:-))

Craig, thanks for your reply re: "over-sampling" in the recent poll.

Josh Marshall says that the NBC is telling him that the results were weighted to compensate for the over-sampling of African-Americans.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/185845.php

the only thing missing in Obama's speech was Peter Paul and Mary in the background softly singing "If I Had a Hammer"

:-))
--Heather

Guys,
what a great analysis in the WSJ,

Thanks for da tip LL
This must be put out everywhere.
Think the analysis is quite strong. The third option would be in my opinion a very good one, in fact the only feasible one...

I have a pancake craving with heavy syrup..I think I will stroll oustide my office to go get some....

Caught breakfast at the local McDs
Saw a Tee Shirt from the hood.
Couldn't read it all but this stood out.

It is MEXICAN
Not Hispanic.

Then some thing at the bottom about Hispanic means Spain. and something else I couldn't read with out grabbing the person and making them stand still.

Made me chuckle, as I remember several people throwing around Hispanic in a very inclusive manner.

When I was framing we had a crew of Guatamalans working down the street. The Mexicans on our crew would get very pissed if you confused them with Mexicans.

Jack

polls are wieghted? oversampling?
i think i'll just wait on the next poll
or better yet the penn. primary results

the polls are fiction......they tell a story.....whose story? it all depends.

When I read the WSJ article thought it was a well reasoned and reasonable approach to correcting the FL/MI dilemma.

That said, I fear I have crossed some undefinable threshold, when I find myself agreeing with the WSJ and for that matter some of what is written in National Review, (such as Geraghty) rather than comments by supposed allies. I contrast that to the loud-mouthed rantings of the likes of Ed Schultz this am on msnbc, which resulted in my pressing the remote (many thanks to the inventor of that simple little item--what did we do before that)

Heather: Property taxes fund local government. And...my property taxes way more than doubled the last 5 years I lived in the Seattle area due to appreciation in home value, not necessarily the tax rate.

Heather, Republicans will call all Democrats (Hillary included) Tax and spend extreme liberals. LOL!

Have a good weekend Renee!

Okay, gotta go get some cleaning done this morning.

The "fib" that just keeps growing and growing.
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=68124

Obama doesn't want a re-vote in Mich. and Florida.

Why? Because he would lose..

So much for the empowerment guy..

Brrrock Brrock Brrock..what a chicken..

good morning USA time, good afternoon Belgium time... Quickly hanging out the garlic to keep the vampires out and making a pentagram against Those Who Cannot BE Named.. thus, we will all get along and eventually hold virtual hands and sing KUMBAYA.

I am pleased that the major DEM donors supporting Hillary Clinton called out Nancy Pelosi's declarations regarding Super-delegates. Don't get me wrong, I think of SDs compared to elected delegates as I think of the super-rich interest income compared to actual salaries. Neither the SDs and Interest income are earned, they are just basically handed out to people to keep the masses in line. But such is our system, and the SDs should vote whom they best believe can win the election.

And its about time for both Clinton and Obama to figure out a way to make a "dream team" ticket going into the general in November. Otherwise I really do think that McCain has a good shot at winning this.

Seat the goddamn Florida delegates and prescribe a revote in Michigan. And someone kick Howard Dean into the last century please :-) Said with much love...

EuroTom

Brrrock Brrock Brrock..what a chicken..
--Oregon Democrat

LMAO...that's funny!!

"When I was framing we had a crew of Guatamalans working down the street. The Mexicans on our crew would get very pissed if you confused them with Mexicans."

Interesting post Jack....and it becomes a real problem. In the years I lived down the street from Corky Gonzalez's compound In Denver he insisted on Chicano, which I believe he coined. But I know Mexicans who prefer Mexican and others who are outraged. Epecially a couple of South American women who consider themselves far superior! ha...That's why if I sort of get to know a South of the Border person I usually ask where they are from.

Tricky...hispanic, latino, Mexican, chicano....maybe we should just use the term southerners...

Patsi,

if I am not mistaken Chicano refers to American born Latinos

Mexicans obviously refer to those that are from Mexico

Latinos are of Latin blood in this hemisphere

Hispanics as I know it are used intertwined with Latinos but more accurately from Spain.

there are probably as many definitions as there are people defining them so don't shoot me if I am wrong. It doesn't happen much but enough to raise some doubt about me. :)

Yo soy un demócrata amarillo del perro.

Yo soy Hussein Horsedooty!

Craig:

HRC and FOX seem to be keeping the story alive - so obviously Obama has to address it. The media is still giving the Wright issue slanted coverage.

So quit claiming it is Obama that is "race baiting." He already has the black vote.

Heather:

"Obama is NOT getting nor will he get the Independent Vote. To say that is an insult to the intelligence of anyone that understands U.S. political ideology."

Obama has my vote. As well as the votes of many other Independents I know.

Craig,

You've always been one of my favorite pundits because you're always so objective, which is refreshing these days.

I voted for Obama, in Florida, but I soon started to believe this guy isn't who he says (or thinks) he is. I read about this Wright controversy months ago before the television media and most of America picked up on it. I'll tell you why I think the Wright controversy is a big problem for Obama and will continue to be an even bigger issue if he does get the nomination.

While it's true, adults can "cherry pick..." most of us do suffer from selective listening... and it is somewhat possible that Obama could sit in that church on Sunday and not believe a word that Wright said, I think that most people who aren't totally in the tank for Obama agree that it's not all that plausible, and I think Obama knows that. That's why he keeps talking about it. He's trying to justify his own irony.

A church is a very personal thing, and while most people may not agree with a doctrine or two, most people don't go to a church that they totally disagree with. They just don't go. That aside, the real problem for me is that Obama subjects his girls to that hatred.

Children develop their value systems between six and eight years of age. For Obama to expose his girls to Wright's ranting tells me at some deep level Obama agrees that it's okay for the girls to hear those words. He's got to understand that his daughters may grow up with the same values and attitudes as Wright by subjecting them to that rhetoric at such an impressionable age. Even if he and Michelle go home after every sermon and tell the girls not to believe a word that they just heard (which is unlikely and outrageous to think that would happen) the fact remains that this will have some impact on his daughters and this is what carries this type of hatred from one generation to another.

Okay, maybe Obama's just a bad parent. Maybe he doesn't really want racism to go away? Still, I think you get my point that healthy adults just don't continuously expose themselves to things they don't agree with. They "turn the channel," and they certainly don't let their kids watch.

Why is this a problem for Obama's presidential bid? Well, Ken Blanchard put it the best: "People are more apt to trust and respect you when what you say and what you do are one in the same."

also, Patsi to your comment about the two women that consider themselves far superior this is a common occurrence with Spaniards when they encounter Mexicans and they certainly don't like the way they speak. (accent) I have seen the same thing with certain Britons and turning their noses up to American dialect.

Yo soy un demócrata amarillo del perro.

Yo soy Hussein Horsedooty!

What hard fought election has HRC won? Getting elected as a Dem in NYC (and the most famous woman in the world) ain't that hard.

She is lucky Rudy didn't run.

I think this is the only legitimate hard fought election either candidate has been in - and guess what - Obama is winning!!

Euro Tom,
How is the weather in Belgium? Amsterdam is not that good. Just had my fist pancake of the day..... I think I will keep it at that.

Anybody up for the third option of the WSJ idea?
I am for it 100%. Just discussed it with a colleague here who is independent, leaning towards Hill (we both come from Fl and are on a 2 year secondment to Amsterdam) and he thinks it would be the best final solution......

Mary Kay:

"That aside, the real problem for me is that Obama subjects his girls to that hatred."

You are really starting to cross the line.

Those sound bites are not reflective of what Obama's daughters have heard and you know it.

Warren,

One person does not make a parade. I do not think that he will get a substantial (IOW enough to help) Independents in the general election should he be nominated.

Right now the republicans are just sitting on the sideline planning strategy and sharpening their knives. Anything that you hear right now is just little jabs, just keeping loose before the big contest.

John McCain's Phoenix pastor, Dan Yeary, is a folksy patriotic Southern Baptist who opposes abortion and believes homosexuality to be a biblical sin, but says Christians have an obligation to love such sinners.

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/mccains.pastor.a.sharp.contrast.to.obamas/17481.htm

(And guess what - no one in the GOP is backing away from those statements.)

Bowmanc:

"One person does not make a parade. I do not think that he will get a substantial (IOW enough to help) Independents in the general election should he be nominated."

Thanks for your biased and pessimistic prediction. What party are you in again?

Obama does better than HRC with Independents - that is not up for debate.

And Russert had an interesting stat: Against Clinton - McCain gets 95% of the GOP vote and HRC gets 5%. So much for the base not liking McCain. Hillary will drive the base right into his arms and allow him to pander to the center.

Wake up people. Hillary is getting closer and closer to unelectable in the Fall. Those negatives are only getting higher. She better start focusing on her message - and let the GOP tear Obama down.

(And tell Bill Clinton to shut the fuck up!!)

HRC?
Most famous woman in the world?
Warren ...... Really?????
Either you are out of touch whit reality or you live 12 miles under the sea level...

I suggest u start reading Time or Forbes or whatever magazine to get to know the worlds most famous woman....

and......
Obama is winning up till now.. keep your eyez on da prize bro...The HRC express left its station..and it doesn´t stop for chickens.......Brrrrock Brrrrrrock Brrrrrock

Dooty
Those are good working definitions IMO.
But they do have the problem of being very USAcentric.

Several years ago, I was talking to a neighbor who was born and raised in MexicoCity. I ask him a general question about ethnic identity, he told me, he thought of himself as Italian. His mothers family came from Italy to Mexico after WWII. He even got out his collection of Italian love songs and played them for me.

Jack

Jason:

Who is the world's most famous woman?

(And keep up the childish antics - it only makes my points all the more convincing. I thought with all those tennis lessons - your arguments in support of HRC might be a bit more intellectually stimulating....)

" It doesn't happen much but enough to raise some doubt about me. :)"

Doots....yes, it really doesn't come up much....certainly not like in Corky's day! ROFL!

I did love that neighborhood though. Maybe it was a little like living in a Mafia neighborhood, but since my kids were often thought to be ethnic -- all the way from Italian to Mexican to, once we moved to TN, black -- I never worried about them in Corky's area.

As far as the language thing goes....I remember the split in my little Southwet Kansas home town...the Mexicans who had lived there forever REALLY looked down on the migrant workers who came through during the beet picking season!

Dea Ally:
I understand, but the economy was different in last five years with the economy the way it is now Increasing insurance rates, higher property taxes may cause more foreclosures.

Sincerely,
Heather

hi Jack,

I can only speak to the USAcentric because that is where I live. ask your framing buddies about how color of ones skin plays in Mexico. All the Mexicans I know say the darker the skin the less others care for them.

Yo soy un demócrata amarillo del perro.

Yo soy Hussein Horsedooty!

What hard fought election has Barack Obama won? Getting elected as a Dem in Illinois running against Alan Keyes ain't that hard.

He is lucky Jeri Ryan's husband wasn't able to run (after all the kinky sex charges forcing him to drop). He is also lucky that John Kerry chose him to give the keynote address to create a national platform to run as senator.

I think this is the only legitimate hard fought election either candidate has been in - and guess what - NEITHER is winning!!

I always thought the Mother Mary was the most famous woman in the world.

"(And tell Bill Clinton to shut the fuck up!!)"

This is the new and hopeful world Obama hath wrought. Some little punk who never did a damn thing for society using that kind of language as a weapon against one of our best presidents. Warren, how about taking your own advice. The Obama people have now officially made me physically ill.

I don't want to elect a President to "manage" the Iraq War "better."

The Iraq War which results in - American troops losing their lives, Iraqis being ravaged by attacks and a refugee crisis, drains our economy, lowers our status in the world and does not make America safer - cannot be "managed better." The concept is flawed.

I want to elect Obama to end the Iraq War.

God BLESS America

Patsi:

Guess what neither you or I are running for President. So quit attributing everything I say (or Rev. Wright says) to Obama.

And I am a some little punk - what are you?

patsi, I like Warren. Warren I like you..

But you are increasingly aggressive today. Your frustration is boiling over... Relax, and really, I'd like to see anyone try to tell Bill Clinton to shut up. And the way you phrased it was below the belt.

Are you channeling Brian today?

We are having snow flurries in Salem..very unusual this time of year..I[m off with my Hillary signs for a couple of hours..

Ok Warren, I got your call
You know
When I asked my dad a question that was rather easy or easy to attain information he always told me: "Jason, take that book ad look it up, or watch the 8 o clock news tonight". Always poking me to go out and search for it myself

That inspired me to learn on my own and to grow immensely. I suggest you do the same, educate yourself about the worlds most famous woman, and after that come back and then say something that is actaully true instead of once again making false claims

And for the childish antics: I think we all poke fun at one another one time or another..But probably you are not a fan. No worries bro. It´s all good

One more saying from my grandmother: If ya can´t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Dear Warren:
With all due respect , Tim Russert and the polls are wrong in the general Obama will not get independents. Independents are not fiscal liberals lol. You cannot seem to grasp and understand that Warren.
He will lose 28% of Hillary's base in the general that will vote in the general election, actually worse that 28% will go to McCain.

Warren do you understand the political ideology of the average independent? Trust me its not liberal

If the Democratic Party Nominates Obama they will go down in flames in the general, it will be Reagan/Mondale all over again. McCain with things as they are should at this time be trailing in polls by at least 15-20 points and he is 2 points ahead of either Hillary or Obama.

Warren do you understand the risk of a landslide victory for McCain, it will mean coattails and loss of control of at the very least the senate and a mandate for McCain. Those are the ramifications, is that what you are willing to risk with Obama Warren?
Sincerely,
Heather

I don't know if anyone else gives a "s" about this but this is what Wikipedia has to say about Hispanic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic

Yo soy un demócrata amarillo del perro.

Yo soy Hussein Horsedooty!

Tom,
"What hard fought election has Barack Obama won? Getting elected as a Dem in Illinois running against Alan Keyes ain't that hard."

I wasn't arguing that Barack had a difficult run for his prior elections. I was arguing Craig's statement that he didn't think Obama had ever run a campaign that that would battle test him. He stated something to that effect on MOJO this morning. I was stating that Hillary also hasn't had any tough runs for office in her belt either, and that I didn't counting her Husband's runs for office should count for her because it was not her running for those offices.

That's all, Congrats on 13 days sugar free!!!

Jenn

the democratic party needs more people like bill clinton and james carvillie'' people who actually know how to win a national election''' you want to fall in behind john kerry'' ted kennedy and all the rest of
'' the gang that could'nt shoot straight'' then you will lose every time.they only know how to lose
carville' yea i said it ' want me to say it again in case you did'nt get it the first time
the republicans are not going to give up power
somebody has to be strong enough to take it

Another Neighborhood story

When I first moved into the neighborhood , getting close to 20 years now, one of the first people I met was Angelo. He is an elderly Puerto Rican. He is also a drunk. That night I was sitting on my front porch as he staggered down the side walk. He stopped and offered me a beer and set down. Angelo has never perfected his English, so understanding him is hard but I did understand this. He wagged a drunken finger at me and said"No Mexicano!" then pointing to himself he said "American". It was important to him that I understand that he wasn't like the new arrivals.

Angelo has six daughters, one of them married a Guatamalan, one married a Mexican, and another married some one from one of the islands down there. The rest married Anglos of various shades and colors. When he has the family all together for the holidays he can have his own OAS convention.

Jack

Mary Kay...

Most churches that I have been too, not for awhile now though, usually have the children in Sunday School during the service or send them to the play area just before any sermon.

It is unjust for you or anyone to insinuate that Obama may be a bad parent.

I can not believe that now you and the others here would even imply that he's a bad parent. This is a new low you Clinton supporters have now sunk too.

If you want to talk about bad parents how about having a cheating husband and accepting it when you have children?

EuroTom:

My point is that Clintonites make this argument against Obama as if it does not apply equally to HRC - and it does!

"guess what - NEITHER is winning!!"

Contests won:
Obama - 30
Clinton - 14

Delegates:
Obama - 1413
Clinton - 1242

Super Delegates (since Feb. 5):
Obama - +48
Clinton - -5

Popular Vote (incl. FL):
Obama - 13,931,453
Clinton - 13,508,949

Please explain your definition of "winning."

*watches Heather pick and choice polls to suit whatever outcome she desires*

Sincerely,
Brian

Euro Tom,
How is the weather in Belgium? Amsterdam is not that good. Just had my fist pancake of the day..... I think I will keep it at that.

Anybody up for the third option of the WSJ idea?
I am for it 100%. Just discussed it with a colleague here who is independent, leaning towards Hill (we both come from Fl and are on a 2 year secondment to Amsterdam) and he thinks it would be the best final solution......

Hi Jason, it is cloudy and rainy and I am pissed off because my best worker just gave her notice. Other than that, it's cool. My little artist is back in Italy til 8 May so on top of everything else, I am lonely. grrrr.

Why are you in Amsterdam? It can't just be the coffee shops. :-)

"Tricky...hispanic, latino, Mexican, chicano....maybe we should just use the term southerners..."

Good one Patsi!
How about 2030- American Citizens..2050- the Majority lol

Patsi,

here is what Wiki says about Corkey Gonzales

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodolfo_Gonzales

he was quite a fellow. He was one of the founders of the Chicano Movement. Viva La Raza!

Yo soy un demócrata amarillo del perro.

Yo soy Hussein Horsedooty!

Yes Brain and all the polls are saying the same thing What a wide variety, lol
Sincerely,
Heather

Brian, are you back to punish us with your presence again? Everyday I read you will never post here again and each time you do your usual drive-by post and slither away. I have an idea. Next time you pass by, why don't you?

Heather:

"Tim Russert and the polls are wrong in the general Obama will not get independents. Independents are not fiscal liberals lol. You cannot seem to grasp and understand that Warren.

He will lose 28% of Hillary's base in the general that will vote in the general election, actually worse that 28% will go to McCain."

How come Tim Russert and the polls he cites are "wrong" - but you and the polls you cite are correct?

And while I appreciate it - I am not swayed by your lectures regarding political ideaology. I watched every GOP debate, have many Republican and Independent friends - and I think I have a pretty good sense of what I am talking about.

And based on all that I have watched - I can tell you exactly what would be used as a wedge issue with respect to political ideaology - government mandates on Health Care!! The GOP took several shots at this during their debates.

So please engage me in a conversation - instead of dismissing me as ignorant, naive, spellbound, etc.

Warren my definition of "winning" is getting to the end of the goddamned primaries, seating the Florida vote, re-vote in Michigan, and see who gets to the magic number.

mqw:

"the republicans are not going to give up power
somebody has to be strong enough to take it"

If Obama can take power from the Clintons - who by no means are willing to give it up - than I think he will do just fine against the GOP thank you.

Plus, I don't share your fear of the Republicans. Most of those yahoos are wrong on almost every issue. And they have the track record to prove it.

Heather I've been reading through your blog (shades of Fatal Attraction in my opinion) but I'm curious didn't they teach you at Notre Dame that priest are ordained and popes are corenated?

Hey Jenn, I wasn't making the comment to you, but in response to Warren. He likes it when I turn his messages around :-) ... Hey, we might be supporting different candidates, but we're on the same team in getting off of sugar and other bad nasties that aren't good for us. I really loved your posts in my blog. Thanks for the encouragement.

Much love from me.

warren except for bill clinton ' they have a pretty good track record

Great idea EuroTom. So after three more months of bitter fighting and bad blood - we can come to the same conclusion that we would right now.

That is the Washington way. Why do now - what we can put off till later...

(You sound so "experienced.")

Dear Warren:

It was not my intent to dismiss you as "ignorant naive spellbound" If I came across that way then I apologize. Please allow me to clarify that I am not going by polls but rather political history.

Warren please allow me to ask you this, in the last 50 years what liberal democrat has won in the general election?

Please know Warren I respect and like you its not my intention to demean you in any way. On most things we agree, just not on Obama.

Sincerely,
Heather <3 :-))

EuroTom,
No, I am going for my Phd in business economics and came accross a great professor who was willing to give me a spot for two years in Amsterdam to do teh research about the FED and the ECB.....

I never go to the coffee shop bro. This black man has his head on str8. No drinking, , no smoking...LOL

Come to think about it, I´m pretty broing....

This group is very international though.

Back to topic,
Can I get an AMEN for the WSJ article. The more we talk about it over here, the more feasible it gets. Can some send this to that stubborn, pig headed, elepant who heads the DNC?