Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

wonder how many times those zig-zagging poll lines will zig and zag from now till the convention.......

Dear Craig, Everyone:
Good morning and a Happy and Blessed Easter To Craig and all peeps here, I just wanted to say that before my daughter and I head off to Mass. Spread the love and good will to all

Sincerely,
Heather

Since Mar 9, Obama's highs have been descending while Clinton's have been rising. So, if there are any market technicians here, let us know what that means.

Happy Easter to you, Heather, and to your daughter, too!

Happy Easter to you, Heather, and to your daughter, too!

Argh, the double posting Grinch strikes again!

Dynasty: Not a dirty word in Pennsylvania

"Instead of closing the polling gap as the primary election draws closer, as he usually does, Obama has fallen farther behind in Pennsylvania in the last week. The latest Quinnipiac University survey showed Clinton’s 6-point lead in February has expanded to 12 points. The Franklin and Marshall College poll released Thursday showed a similar trend."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9165.html

Poll related and interesting take on PA politics.

These poll numbers show that a percentage of the population is very susceptible to MSM propaganda. Their support is soft. MSM was able to rescue Obama again - temporarily. O'Reilly played a montage of News (?) outlets praising Obama's speech. It was amazing to see how far MSM will go with their lies. Where would Obama be without MSM support and protection - nowhere.

The polls to watch are the ones in upcoming states. If Hillary wins big, the national numbers wil rise.

Happy Easter All.

Noon Eastern Time Siena vs. Villanova.

Let's Go Saints!

Two Catholic colleges playing on Easter Sunday. Do you want to go with the one named the Wildcats or my Saints? (Okay we used to be called the Indians, but that was about twenty years ago.)

Have a great day all. Off to brunch with the family, then watching the game with an alumni crowd.

gordo 'all the media outlets mutualy agreed to drop the rev.wright story after the SPEECH.. we are all supposed to be suffering from collective amnesia now

Warren

Here's another great read for you (and all the other junkies around here). It's by a woman author:
http://www.amazon.com/Captains-Kings-Story-American-Dynasty/dp/0449205622/ref=pd_sim_b_title_4

Obama Releases More Documents Reiterating Rezko Ties

"In new set of papers released Saturday night, Chicago Tribune finds local developer and his wife listed as part of Obama’s finance committee for his 2004 U.S. Senate bid."

http://thepage.time.com/2008/03/23/obama-releases-more-documsents-reiterating-rezko-tie/

Why just a few months ago the Obama campaign said national polls don't matter, it's only the state polls that count.

I guess the polls by state aren't going their way.

You can only go to the well so many times with that "Bill insulted me" claim. This ;last one is the most ridiculous and even they had to walk back their attack dog. Looks desperate.

He was up seven points in the same poll just last week so how is this good news for Obama?

Flatus

Don't tell me you just discovered Taylor Caldwell?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Caldwell#Bibliography

If so, you are making me feel very old because I started reading everything she ever wrote 50 years ago. My favorite is "Glory and the Lightening" simply because Aspasia is one of my favorite historical characters.

For a fun read try "Grandmother and the Priests" and for a slightly scary one "Dialogues With The Devil"

*chuckle*

Whats this with polls? I thought you didn't use them.

Best comment on the poll posted was by Steve Clemons, on his Washington Note blog

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2008/03/reversal_of_the/#comments

"What is clear to me -- but seems to be unclear to many Clinton supporters and Obama supporters is that the Democratic Party remains deeply, evenly divided. The strategy both sides seem to be using to reach the supporters of the other is to yell more loudly what they have already been saying."

Jack

Funny that I somewhat agree with her on this view:

“We, perhaps, have corrupted our children and our grandchildren by heedless affluence, by a lack of manliness, by giving the younger generation more money and liberty than their youth can handle, by indoctrinating them with sinister ideologies and false values, by permitting them, as young children, to indulge themselves in imprudence to superiors and defiance of duly constituted authority, by lack of prudent, swift punishment when the transgressed, by coddling and pampering them when they were children and protecting them from a very dangerous world – which always was and always will be. We gave them no moral arms, no spiritual armor.” – On Growing Up Tough, chapter On Hippies

I think kids, like most people, respond better to reason than dogma.

The southern state polls sure blow a big hole in the Obama argument he will take the South.

Happy Easter,

Good thing the Easter Bunny didn't need Bush's help otherwise this would have been his fate...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23764861/

"Don't tell me you just discovered Taylor Caldwell?"

No, Jamie she was one of my favorites. Captains and the Kings always jumps to mind when I start thinking about the Bush Dynasty. And, I have a premonition that Mr Obama might be manipulated by the Gnomes in Zürich.

I got my copy, which I passed on to my daughter, when it came out as a BOMC selection. An absolutely fabulous read!

Warren

What a lot of "modern" parents forget is that children need both love and structure. They do not respond well to bribery and always getting their own way.

There is a lot of good buzz around "A Nation of Wimps"

http://www.amazon.com/Nation-Wimps-High-Invasive-Parenting/dp/0767924037/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1206280188&sr=8-2

Here is what I think of your stinking polls...

Remember the "salad days" Clintonites?

"The AP/Yahoo poll, conducted Dec. 14-20, said that 47 percentof Democratic voters would support Hillary Clinton if a primary were held in their state now, followed by Barack Obama at 25 percent and John Edwards at 13 percent."

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/polltracker/2007/12/clinton-leads-obama-nationally.html

You poll numbers don't scare me - because Obama beats HRC and McCain on message.

(Maybe Penn should focus on Clinton's message instead of the polls. And maybe Wolfson should focus on that too instead of attacking Obama....)

Caldwell was fascinating. As a far right Birch Society type with a deep religiosity, she often said things that just set your teeth on edge and then she would write a novel with so much humanity that you would almost forgive her or at least forget for a while.

Hillary has to battle Obama and MSM. Both are running smear campaigns. I've heard Right Wingers express admiration for her toughness - Obama is a pampered weakling. He has to be protected - so fragile. Where would Obama be if MSM was not covering up for him - nowhere.

North Carolina from real clear politics.

"The latest (and only post-Wright) poll has the race at 1%. This is hugely significant and if supported by subsequent polls will change the dynamic of the race.

If Clinton can win three primaries in a row (Pennsylvania, Indiana and North Carolina) she can argue that he has not won anywhere post-Wright. This will be particularly devastating if he gets below 35% of the white vote in NC. "

He beats her on message? What message? If people aren't voting for him how is his message winning.

Jamie:

I agree that kids should not always get their own way - BUT they do respond well to bribery.

I remember my first day of "lab school" (Pre-K). I have vague memories myself - and the story has also been told to me.

Anyways, the first day of school - I was traumatized to be left alone. So when they let us out to play - I went and hugged a tree (mind you I was no environmentalist back then - just scared). Anyways, the teachers tried to talk me off that tree all day to no avail. The only thing that worked was when my mom arrived and told me sternly to "stop hugging the tree" - and also that I would get a Slurpee later if I did. Worked like a charm!!

bill clinton picking on poor little obama again' he runs to his mommy (msnbc) and tell on him

Bear

There is absolutely nothing I can say to you that will help relieve the rage resulting from the 350-years of, at best, condescension, and at worst, the most horrible brutalities that one class of human beings can force on another.

I apologize for the faults of my ancestors and, for my own shortcomings.

Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | March 22, 2008 3:37 PM

With regards to this post, your apology, sarcastic or not, isn't necessary. I bring up the point to illustrate that black people are justified in their mistrust of this country's government and of it's citizens who allowed such policy's so that they could financially benefit themselves. If you aren't willing to conceed that some people have a reason for their rage and anger then so be it. Remember that you will do more to define yourself as a person than anything else you will ever say in your lifetime.

bill clinton picking on poor little obama again' he runs to his mommy (msnbc) and tells on him

Pollcat:

"If people aren't voting for him how is his message winning."

Why is it SO easy for you to set aside the FACTS that Obama has won more states, delegates and votes.

Happy Easter to all... Clintonites and Obamaniacs alike !!

Warren

"I would get a Slurpee later if I did. Worked like a charm!!"

Well I probably should have said that you should reward good behavior and ignore bad. Since children love attention they tend to go with what gets the most rewards.

Why is it SO easy for you to set aside the FACTS that Obama has won more states, delegates and votes

Why is it so easy for you to suppress the votes of two of the largest states and insist they not count.
Why is it so easy for you to insist the race is over when it's not.

You are entitled to your opinion and your view of statistics but the sentence you posted is not a fact.

2008 West Virginia Democratic Presidential Primary

Rasmussen 3/13/08

Clinton 55 Obama 27

Obama can thank Red states and "Dems for a Day" for his tiny lead.

It's good the Rev Wright controversy is not having a long term impact on Obama's poll numbers.
He should lose for the right reasons.

People are asking, "where's the argula?"

You cannot eat hope or use it to pay your rent.

Pollcat:

"Why is it so easy for you to suppress the votes of two of the largest states and insist they not count."

Neither I nor Obama did this. The DNC did. And Clinton accepted that decision as well.

HRC said: "It's clear, these elections they're having are not going to count for anything."

http://halfricanrevolution.blogspot.com/2008/03/it-is-time-for-hillary-to-drop-nonsense.html

Not so clear anymore...

"Why is it so easy for you to insist the race is over when it's not."

It is not over technically. We all know that. But Edwards, Richardson, Biden, Romney, etc. - all dropped out before the race was "over" too. So asking HRC to end this thing - is not such a far-fetched idea.

"Why is it SO easy for you to set aside the FACTS that Obama has won more states,"

Warren what disturbs me about the "more states" meme is that you had two campaigns. One got sloppy and over confident and went to the caucus states expecting their usual insiders success. The other saw a flaw in the system and gamed the beejeesus out of it by corraling one massive interest group and delivering them to the polls.

In both cases the turn out while of record proportions was still minimal when compared to the general. In the case of the red states, there is no way they are going to go blue. So Obama gets all of these caucus delegate votes from states that do not report their actual votes cast and which he can't take in November.

I was at the center of a caucus state. Coming from a primary state, I was scandalized at just how undemocratic they are. It's a little late in life to be coming to this realization and it has really contributed to my absolute resistence to Obama and support of Clinton. I know it is the "way it has always been done", but I see it as out and out cheating.

Dear Warren:
Your 9.34 am est post was one of your best ones I've seen since I have been here, loved it.

h5 @ Warren

Sincerely, Heather

The only reason the Obama campaign is screaming now about Clinton dropping out is because they are about to get their butt's klcked in all the remaining primaries.

It is a clear indication Obama cannot win in the general. There is no way he can pick up the South and now it is clear he cannot win in Ohio and he has blown off Florida.

Obama has blown off states he needs to win in the fall.

Jamie:

You know Obama has won primaries too. And at the end of the day - he has more votes total (even with those hallowed "big states.")

In fact, he has more votes even counting the votes from FL and MI. (MI is particularly skewed cause Clinton gets a + 328,309).

So I am not sure how you can simply write off Obama's success as "gaming the system." Especially since the Clintons (and their machine) are supposed political geniuses.

Warren:

The DNC rules allow for states to find a way to count either via re-vote or via the credentials committee.

The Obama campaign said they would obied by whatever the DNC decides

In MI, the DNC and the Clinton campaign approved a re-vote and Obama challenged it until it died.

You can spin however you'd like but the Obama campaign know they can't win if FL and MI re-vote and the delegates are seated. I don't blame him for what he's doing because it benefits his own political interests and he's proven himself to be someone that only makes moves that benefit him.

The sad thing is that many people (looks like about 53% from the poll above) that currently support Hillary will view him as the illegitimate nominee. BTW that 53% has grown from about 25% a few weeks ago. You should be worried as an Obama supporter...he cannot win the general election without that 53% of voters. The complete reversal in his McCain match-up numbers prove this to be the case.

Thanks.

h5 @ Heather!!

(but I must acknowledge that most of the post was a cut and past from the wiki page)

The Rassmussen Poll has different results from Gallup

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/

Obama is complaining about Republicans voting for Clinton? What is Susan Eisenhower?

But he is happy to have the help of Dick Morris.

obamaheads bragging about all the states they have won really don't understand how the electoral college
system works in a general election. just because obama won wyoming' with nine or ten thousand democrats voting means he will beat mccain is idiocy'' wyoming 'idaho all the rest will go to mcain

"It isn’t often that I’m called to defend Bill Clinton, but since I was present in Charlotte, N.C., Friday when he made the remarks — now being spun by the Obama campaign as “like McCarthy” — I’m compelled to set the record straight...He may have intentionally bypassed Obama in his leap to match Hillary against McCain, but he didn’t say anything that could be construed as questioning Obama’s patriotism."

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MzZjZjQ5YWUyN2ZkZDQ1ZjI3YmM0YTNlYzAxMDY3ZGQ=

Just in case any Obama supporter wants to latch onto this story like Anon-Paranoid latched onto the passport story on Friday claiming a vast Clinton conspiracy...when in fact an Obama adviser has now been shown to be involved (ooops!).

"[T]he only truly effective way to protest the re-racialization of American politics is the purchase of this “Typical White Person” tote bag. Its roomy interior can fit six ."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/22/typical-white-person-open-thread/#more-1897

Wendy:

Those poll numbers reflect the "kitchen sink" strategy - so I blame no one other than the Clinton campaign. She is the one threatening the Dem's chances in the general with this last-ditch effort.

Anyways, I have always been confident in Obama - and he will have plenty of time to win those Democratic voters over. One of the reasons I started supporting him from the start was that I think he has a better chance in the general against McCain than Hillary. And I am not about to let a bunch of campaign sophistry change my view. (Especially not from a punk like Wolfson....)

And there are countless reasons why Hillary supporters should vote for Obama rather than McCain. Iraq, S. Ct. nominees, getting more Dems in Congress, the good of our country and the world, etc.

I am going to watch the Sunday shows and watch other people fight. It is too early for this...

red states will be red
blue states will be blue
if you don't win purple
you will be screwed

... can fit six months’ worth of irony."

"Those poll numbers reflect the "kitchen sink" strategy - so I blame no one other than the Clinton campaign. She is the one threatening the Dem's chances in the general with this last-ditch effort."

As opposed to the sink the ship strategy of Obama where he sets up straw arguments and makes Bill Clinton a fake enemy. The only one destroying the Democratic Party is Obama. He has turned his Armani clad back on the blue collar base of the Democratic Party and said, "Let drink low fat chai latte."

I wonder if Anon is busy this weekend or didn't feel a need to follow-up on the passport story after spending much of the day
Friday insinuating it was Clinton shenanigans.

Now that it has come out that McCain and Clinton files were accessed perhaps Obama did it and had his file accessed too in order to throw everyone off the track...hmmmmmmm.....

[scratches her chin]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/22/passport.files/

Warren:

Your repetition of the "kitchen sink strategy" is getting as old.

Is that really all you have left?

As I said before...and if you make me I'll say again...Hillary didn't make him go to that church, Hillary didn't make Power say that he wouldn't pull troops out of Iraq, Hillary didn't make him ignore his "still friend" Rezko's slums in his district, Hillary didn't make him lie about whether he had heard Wright say such things, Hillary didn't make him lie about how much money Rezko raised for his campaigns (he lied 3 times about this one), Hillary didn't make Rice go on TV and say Obama wasn't ready to answer the 3a.m. call, Hillary didn't make him enter into a real estate deal with Rezko even though he was under investigation...

I could go on but your kitchen sink strategy is more like Obama tripping over his own feet. Go take a good hard look at obama and stop trying to blame Clinton...it's not working. Obama is his own biggest problem.

"March 22, 2008
Passport contractor exec is Obama supporter
Posted: 06:23 PM ET

Passport contractors connected to Presidential campaigns.
WASHINGTON (CNN) – The CEO of a company whose employee is accused of improperly accessing the passport files of presidential candidates is a consultant to the Obama campaign, a source familiar with the firm said Saturday.

John Brennan, president of The Analysis Corporation (TAC), advises the Illinois Democrat on foreign policy and intelligence issues, the source said."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/22/passport-contractor-execs-obama-clinton-supporters/

Another fake story set up by the Obama campaign to deflect attention from his problems. The pet media and Obama supporters blame Clinton.

Obama is running scared. She will win the next 4 states. Remember I was right about Ohio, Tx and RI so mark my words. hahaha
PA will be a very big win and then he will get even more nasty with the help of MSNBC.
Obama is trying very hard to throw smut at Hillary and it will only make her stronger and I want a strong President and she will be. But keep in mind Obama was the NICE guy and didn't throw smut. How things have changed or have they. More and more will come out on Obama I have no doubt.
Ohioian for Hillary!!

Pollcat

"As opposed to the sink the ship strategy of Obama" -

good one

"He has turned his Armani clad back on the blue collar base of the Democratic Party and said, "Let[s] drink low fat chai latte." -

another good one

ROFL

May I borrow "sink the ship strategy" for further use? Unlike Obama...I will give you credit.

e.g. As my friend Pollcat points out...the sink the ship strategy of Obama...

LOL

Wendy

Feel free and no attribution necessary and of course
correcting the clerical errors is appreciated.

Am I the only one coming down with indigestion watching MTP I'll have to do a huge sobering recop of that show.

Pass the Pepto :-))

--Heather

"Obama's success as "gaming the system." Especially since the Clintons (and their machine) are supposed political geniuses."

Warren, Did you just read past what I said about "over confident and sloppy"? Still you cannot get past the fact that the majority of Sen Obama's votes come from caucus states and those with "open" primaries where he was picking up Republican votes (thanks a lot Rush).

As a result Sen Clinton is the last (excuse the expression) man standing against what I believe will be a failed campaign in the Fall if Sen. Obama gets the nomination.

At least Obama's Armani clad wasn't spending $1500 on that mullet haircut she wears. Gimme a flowbee and $50 and I could do better

Obama's campaign said they were going to roll out 50 big endorsements following 3/4.

What happened?

Winner of the "Angry Black Man" Sermon of the week...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ec_um8cts0

Bear,

Low blow. Sen Obama is a handsome man so I would have a difficult time making fun of his looks (well the ears are a bit much) ...But Is it sticking to the issues for you to tell a woman you don't like her hair cut?

"spending $1500 "

Big fat liar. Snide lies is all the Obama campaign and its suporters have left

An incredible tale of heroism...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It6JN7ALF7Y

Plan for superdelegate 'mini-convention' seeks to end Democrats' internal warfare

http://www.kansascity.com/105/story/542737.html

Jack

Sen Obama is a handsome man

If you like the Curious George look.

http://www.pbs.org/parents/birthdays/curiousgeorge/cm_curious_george_color.html

Well there was some sniper fire, but the over all story did get four pinocchios. She should probably drop it. :-)

I will give this to the Obama side of things. If I were running the Clinton campaign, I would concentrate almost totally on two things: Her senatorial career and her work with the Children's Defense Fund and other charities.

This is an brilliant, warm, and sensitive woman with an amazing grasp of all the issues. Stop trying to make her look like a combination of Winston Churchill and Audie Murphy.

If someone is going to mock a candidates wardrobe, then apparently mocking of appearances is acceptable. BTW, those haircuts were paid for by her 2006 Senate campaign and were in the disclosures. If I could afford that for a haircut, I sure as hell would spend it too so I am not begrudging her...I think she needs Nader to fight to get her money back though...

Pollcat, yet again, I will point out that I will vote for whomever the Democratic nominee is. I am mocking the Clinton campaign because she has run a campaign so bad, that if she were running to head the Klan against a black man, she would lose that race as well.

I haven't seen a choke job this bad since the Yankees were one strike away in game 4 against the Red Sox and choked away the series win.

Here is a ringing endorsement for Sen. McCain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R2ss--tJ0A

"on that mullet haircut she wears"

Bear - you clearly do not know what a mullet is.

Enjoy
http://www.mulletmadness.com/

Pollcat

Isn't there a Klan meeting somewhere you were supposed to attend?

The Washington Post's pants are on fire.

"UPDATE Friday 6:45 p.m.

Lissa Muscatine, who served as Hilary Clinton's chief speechwriter in 1996 and accompanied her on the Bosnia trip, feels that I have failed to provide a full picture of what took place. She gave me her "vivid recollections" of the arrival in Tuzla, which I quote below:

I was on the plane with then First Lady Hillary Clinton for the trip from Germany into Bosnia in 1996. We were put on a C17-- a plane capable of steep ascents and descents -- precisely because we were flying into what was considered a combat zone. We were issued flak jackets for the final leg because of possible sniper fire near Tuzla. As an additional precaution, the First Lady and Chelsea were moved to the armored cockpit for the descent into Tuzla. We were told that a welcoming ceremony on the tarmac might be canceled because of sniper fire in the hills surrounding the air strip. From Tuzla, Hillary flew to two outposts in Bosnia with gunships escorting her helicopter.
UPDATE Saturday 8:45 a.m.

Gen. Nash says that I misquoted him in saying he was unaware of any "security threat" to the First Lady. While he was unaware of any "sniper threat," he now tells me there were a couple of "security concerns" that day, which he found out about after returning to his headquarters after greeting Clinton at the airport. There was a "non-specific report" of a possible truck bomb in the area. The military also had information that "some of the communications associated with the First Lady's visit were being monitored."

"In both cases, we took appropriate security action," said Nash, adding that Clinton's visit was not disrupted."

I actually don't have any problem with the mini-convention as long as it is after the last primary AND they figure out what to do about FL and MI -

Jamie,

I agree about featuring her work about the Children's Defense Fund. Unfortunately, if you come out if favor of living kids, you are week... someone needs to remind people that Republicans don't care about kids once they are born...unless they have a school voucher.

Wendy,

My eyes are failing but that looks like a party in the back to me...lol

Bear

" those haircuts were paid for by her 2006 Senate campaign and were in the disclosures. If I could afford that for a haircut"

You can't take an entry for multiple expenses and compare them to a single expense. I'm sure that $1500 were for several visits and include coloring, cut and styling and would not be that much off the mark spent by most women for those services from a good stylist.

Bear...I think it's time for you to take a little trip to the eye doctor for a check-up

Making fun of haircuts

How Drudge of you

http://mediamatters.org/columns/200705010001

Happy Easter everyone.
Here's a fabulous LA Times story from today that provides a great ground-level view of the "national conversation" on race. Enjoy:

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-divide23mar23,0,6014444.story

CNN alert

Carville v. Daschle coming up in a minute

should be fun

oh that was from earlier in the week

But Carville always kicks there butt

He's awesome.

"their"

Good story LaL

"Bear

There is absolutely nothing I can say to you that will help relieve the rage resulting from the 350-years of, at best, condescension, and at worst, the most horrible brutalities that one class of human beings can force on another.

I apologize for the faults of my ancestors and, for my own shortcomings.

Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | March 22, 2008 3:37 PM

With regards to this post, your apology, sarcastic or not, isn't necessary. I bring up the point to illustrate that black people are justified in their mistrust of this country's government and of it's citizens who allowed such policy's so that they could financially benefit themselves. If you aren't willing to conceed that some people have a reason for their rage and anger then so be it. Remember that you will do more to define yourself as a person than anything else you will ever say in your lifetime."

Bear, there was nothing tongue-in-cheek when I wrote my comment. Please read it again--it is the best I can do.

When you didn't reply to it last night, I had hoped that you understood my sincerity and inability to make things right.

But, I never expected the churlish reply that you provided. I'm deeply disappointed that the my apology was rejected.

I just read the article LaL linked.

It's worth the time.

Thanks LaL

LaL

That was an excellent article. It would seem that to start with there is no such thing as a "national" experience. If we do nothing else with each other, we might start with not automatically suspecting racism, inequality, or anger in what may just be clusiness rather than intent.

clumsiness

SurveyUSA poll: Missouri presidential head to head - March '08
by: Michael Bersin
Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 16:42:15 PM CDT

The poll was sponsored by KCTV in Kansas City.

If there were an election for President of the United States today, and the only two names on the ballot were Republican John McCain and ... Democrat Hillary Clinton, who would you vote for? All

McCain - 48%
Clinton - 46%
Undecided - 6%

What if it was John McCain against Democrat Barack Obama?
All

McCain - 53%
Obama - 39%
Undecided - 9%

"He described Obama's Tuesday speech as "great damage control" and "a beautiful rebuttal", but he was not won over. Fernandez said he wondered whether Obama shared the opinions Wright expressed."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/22/uselections2008.barackobama

“What Hillary Needs To Do”

Three States she needs to concentrate on Pennsylvania, Indiana, and especially North Carolina. I suggest as homework she needs to watch Norma Rae several times if necessary. Once she has that accomplished, she needs to stump very hard. I would go so far as to say almost 24/7.

When stumping Hilary needs that Sally Field/Norma Rae moment, she needs that emotionalism but it has to be pure and honest, purely from the heart.

That impassioned demeanor that sally Field portrayed when she told the security guard at the cotton mill “Forget it! I'm stayin' right where I am. It's gonna take you and the police department and the fire department and the National Guard to get me outta here!” Also when Sally Field Scribbled “UNION” on that cardboard she stood atop the desk and like Moses held the staff with the Israelite in battle, her arms outstretched, at that moment everyone at that mill was united male and female black white all creeds and colors, It was something every red blooded American female could relate to gender wise and emotionally.

That is exactly what Hillary must do in her stumping from not until the last primary. She must speak of a better life, hope, prosperity that the American dream can come true and detail how she will make it possible. She must visit homes, home to home door to door, sleepovers, hospital visits and V.A. hospital visits, stop and visit Ft. Bragg N.C. a must do.

I think with hard work she can win North Carolina and Indiana. The odds were against the real Norma Rae but she achieved her dream of unionizing her cotton mill, and Hillary can achieve her dream and all the mass millions like me that support her and believe in her ability to make us a better nation. Never wave that white flag of surrender never give up, keep fighting Hillary, be that Norma Rae!

--Heather

The most important thing any of us can do is to not permit the rightwing to exploit this issue.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/03/23/race/index.html

UPDATE III: As Zack points out in comments, here's what the other right-wing "Insta" blogger -- Glenn "Instapundit" Reynolds -- said about Jeremiah Wright a couple of weeks ago after citing an article which mentioned that Oprah Winfrey was also a member of Trinity Church:
That's from a 2007 Chicago Tribune piece via Hot Air. This kind of makes me see Oprah a bit differently, too. "Not many people would associate Oprah's easygoing nature and warm, welcoming appeal with the kind of oratory provided by Wright." As with Mitt Romney on guns, I'm starting to think that they haven't been entirely straight with us.
Indeed. It's only a matter of time before even the most seemingly well-intentioned black people get exposed as the white-hating extremists that they are. Even Oprah. Or, as Instapundit's long-time political comrade, Instapunk, put it on Friday: "We're teetering at the edge of believing that you're a secret society, a massive collection of sleeper cells just waiting for your chance to do serious harm to the rest of us."

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/03/obama-regains-poll-momentum.html#comment-57098

Outstanding comment, Heather,

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Clusiness

Trying to address a subject when a writer has absolutely no background in the topic being discussed, and where the writer has no apparent directionality in his or her thoughts.

Heather,

Sorry, she could win them all but she'll come up short in pledged delegates. And she won't win them all.

Dear "All"
Obama will be short of 2025delgate total needed to win as well. It is all about persuading the superdelegates

--Heather

Cowardly, ignorant people hiding behind stupid nicknames are really really aggravating.

Heather,

Sorry, she could win them all but she'll come up short in pledged delegates. And she won't win them all.

Posted by: All weasel suck esp moral ones | March 23, 2008 12:44 PM

Dear self hater

Obama also comes up short.

Super delegates were not created to be a rubber-stamp. Are Obama supporters capable of understanding that simple fact? NO!

Obamamaniacs...come out come out wherever you are...

[looks under the table then behind the door]

Jamie, let's call them 'nymcompoops'

Thank you for your kind comment
(((((Flatus)))))))
Sincerely,
Heather

Edwards Not Expected To Endorse

"At the heart of this is the fact, as has been reported many times before, that Edwards is truly torn, something that no doubt makes many Obama supporters' heads explode.

"He is genuinely torn between the two," the adviser added. "On the big change, money and politics, he obviously agrees more with Barack. I think on the toughness and experience in life, making difficult decisions, I think he believes Hillary is more ready for the job. I also think that he thinks the way she has pursued his support has a level of seriousness he has not seen from the other guy." [...]"

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/22/19541/2784

Susan Eisenhower, I bet she isn't a republican, even if granddaddy was. I went to Westtown School with her in the '70's. She was a couple of grades ahead of me.

Westtown School is a Quaker school run by The Society of Friends, you know liberal pacifists.

http://www.westtown.edu/

Susan Eisenhower is more than just another disappointed Republican. She is also Ike's granddaughter and a dedicated member of the party who has urged her fellow Republicans in the past to stick with the GOP. But now Eisenhower, who runs an international consulting firm, is endorsing Barack Obama. She has no plans to officially leave the Republican Party
http://www.newsweek.com/id/107476

She must be a Nixon kind of Quaker
Not only is she a Republican, she is a lobbyist for oil companies.

Bowmanc

I went to Solebury School, north of there in Bucks County. It could have been a Friends school quite easily as it was founded by Great War veterans who were determined to build a better world.

Wasn't Nixon a Quaker--not that you could tell?

Good to see my years mentoring james carville have paid off so well. He did a suburb job on this morning. His only mistake, not using Obama's middle name, non the less I only felt pride in this morning.

Posted by: Dick Morris

Since you are here. I want to take this opportunity to thank you for all your help.
The Obama Campaign

And yes Carville did make a great point of interest to people living in the suburbs.

Call me crazy, but I think its more than coincidence that Oprah and Obama attended the same church and her early endorsement of him.

Sorry Oprah i'm not buying this whole Obama is a "movement" thing. I believe this whole Obama for President thing was carefully crafted and planned as was his membership in Pastor Wright's church, all based on a future run for the presidency.

Oprah has never been honest about anything in her life from her yo-yo diets of the month to her so called gifts that do not come from her largesse, but in fact are underwritten by corporations which is a whole stry in and of itself.

I'll take Montel over Oprah any day of the week, he's more honest then she is, he is a decorated Marine Vet. with more class in his pinkey then Oprah has all over. Thats just my humble honest opinion. Not every woman is bowled over by Oprah

--Heather

Nixon was officially a Quaker but he didn't live by their ideals.

OK so she is still an Republican, I bet she only gets a pass because granddaddy was president. Or she may be a reupublican like they used to be before that party got hijacked by the radical right.

Anyway there were probably more non-Quakers at Westtown than Quakers.

Folks, PLEASE do not make up screen names to impersonate real people. I know it's a joke, but not very funny in my humble opinion. Very much want to keep the anonymous comment option available, and yes, it is fun to make up clever names now and then. But there's nothing original or helpful about pretending to be a real person other than yourself.

Heather, you simply cannot call Obama a movement. Somebody might take it the wrong way.

Nixon and being a Quaker seem like such a contradiction in terms lol unless Nixon was doing a public address every other word out of his mouth was expletive this expletive that.

One quote said [of Nixion] "thats the cussinist Quaker I ever saw"

"crafted and planned. . .his membership in Pastor Wright's church, all based on a future run for the presidency."

Morning Crazy! I'm Rezdog. people think i'm crazy too. :-)

Happy Easter all!

From Heather's earlier post, "When stumping Hilary needs that Sally Field/Norma Rae moment, she needs that emotionalism but it has to be pure and honest, purely from the heart. "

If she's continually try to do this, I think it takes away from the honest purely from the heart part.

I think her problem all along has been her trying to be too many different things instead of just being herself.

I hope that didn't come off snarky, I quit smoking yesterday and I'm a bit frazzled today.

We are doing dinner with my fatherinlaw, holidays are a little rough since his wife died last fall.

We are doing a traditional Easter dinner.
Pollo asada, black bean chile and grill roasted jalapeno's

For dessert a fruit salad with fluff on top

Happy Easter or what ever you do today.

Jack

JennBe:

Glad you quit smoking and wish you every success in the world, it may be hard, and ther may be days you will jump up and down for a cigarette but don't give in, stick with it. In the long run you will be better off :-))

Sincerely,
Heather

Jack and all - have a great Easter

We are off to see the matinée of Wicked @ the Pantages

woohoo!

Wendy:

Although I hate when EuroTom does this to me...

"Go take a good hard look at [Clinton] and stop trying to blame [Obama]...it's not working. [Clinton and her campaign] is [her] own biggest problem[s]."

And guess what happens when a candidate goes negative like Clinton has done since before OH and TX?

Both candidates numbers go down. Good thing Obama has at least kept the heat on McCain (while the Clintons are busy singing his praises....).

Have fun Whiskyjack and Happy Easter to you as well. Have fun and enjoy, you made me feel hungy now, so I guss I'll fix dinner now as well lol

-Heather

Thanks Jack,

I probably drag my butt back out to the casino to try and get the money I left there yesterday, and of course hit their fantastic seafood brunch.:)

Flatus,

Not familiar with Solebury School. But I wasn't from PA anyway. I was born & bred in Upstate New York. And up there the only time you said "Just One More Cow" was when you were finishing up milking or in a car waiting for a herd to cross the road.

JennBe

"I think her problem all along has been her trying to be too many different things instead of just being herself"

We agree. In the first part of the campaign it was turned over to the "professionals", but I don't think Sen. Clinton is truly a "politician" and therefor the professionals couldn't keep out bits of the real person. In this latter part of the campaign, we are starting to see more and more of the real woman and that is a very good thing. I can only hope it is not too late.

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I for got the guacamole

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIW2Teg4F6k

And by the way, here's my suggestion for word games with real-person names. How about putting it in quotes inside your real name? Like this: Craig "Dick Morris" Crawford. Oh gosh, now I feel dirty. Anyway, please play with something like that instead of outright impersonation. That'd still be entertaining -- and it's certainly better to know who is actually posting.

chec, check, test.

Thanks Heather! I appreciate your support!

I'm trying hard, but it just sucks today.

Jamie, you always make me smile, I love how you took what I said and made it into a positive for Hillary.

And shame on you. You being some of the Clinton supporters that told me Hagel endorsed McCain.

He said on MTP that he has not.

And you Clinton supporters are being so myopic. If HRC somehow manages to win the nomination. There is a very good chance a 3rd Party anti-war candidate will run. Clinton will lose the anti-war votes because of her vote to authorize the war in Iraq.

The result: President John McCain.

For those that did not see this last night:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/usa_politics_mccain_pastor_dc

JennBe, I quit 9-years, 6-mos and 23-days ago. The first few days are the most difficult. Try outlasting the cravings, they'll pass after 10-minutes or so. And, as time passes, they'll be less severe and farther apart.

Your body starts repairing itself almost immediately, I think the American Cancer Society is one of the helpful sites that may help you work through the rough periods.

After a while, for me, the price of taking even a single puff was too much to contemplate--it would mean that I would have to start my quit all over losing all those years of good behavior.

Give it a really good shot, the benefits are real!

Not MTP - This Week with Georgie boy Hagel said that.

And here is your right-wing conspiracy:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-k-wilson/mississippi-limbaugh-ef_b_91112.html

"Hagel said his pick for president, Republican candidate John McCain, must run against a tide of bad feelings toward his party."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/07/politics/uwire/main3918173.shtml
March 7. 2008

Really Hagel is no longer supporting McCain
Hagel flipflops on endorsement...now that IS news.

see the delay has been cleared up, but apparently there are those who can't post at all. I'm sure this will all get cleared up.

OK, after a weekend of driving to & from Cleveland and watching the snow fall, I haven't even peeked at politics, and I feel a little cleaner and fresher as a result, so I plan to read afew posts, but not respond unless my name has been taken in vain. I
Ennywho, happy Easter to all.

"Obama's campaign said they were going to roll out 50 big endorsements following 3/4.

What happened?"

The Clinton campaign has threatened hary-cary.

Good for Richardson for standing up for what he believes in - and resisting the strong-arm tactics of the Clintons. (Who sought to keep him quiet with threats and by plying him with chicken wings).

LOL @ Crag

The other day I saw Morris and omg he looked so fat! anyway why did Fox news hire him anyway? He's always wrong in his analysis

--Heather

Warren, why is it that I do? :-)

Laugh of the day

Gov. Richardson on Fox News Sunday and I quote "I have always been loyal to the Clintons"
unbelivable!

--Heather

Governor Rendell took Governor Richardson to the cleaners..

Clinton-Rendell '08

I was pleased that Gov. Richardson didn't buy into the McPeak/Obama hogwash from the Medford, OR rally.
That was Obama at his worst as the wronged victim.

Not to worry, Craig - I only pretend to be a real person Monday - Friday. On weekends I am the same surreal person I have always been.

OD:

Do you think it would have been politically smart to just let Bill Clinton's remarks stand?

Obama is just not going to roll over and hand HRC the nomination like some of you expect. Not all of us are in awe of Her Majesty...

JennBe

I quit the day after the great Crawford List get together in Las Vegas a couple of years ago. It finally seems to have worked after smoking for almost 45 years. You can do it.

Craig,

How are you doing?

JennBe

If you can stand it, give up whatever you normally do while smoking your first cigarette of the day. I had to give up coffee for a few days to get me past the worst of the cravings simply because that was the first cigarette of the morning. (Anything that interferes with the habit helps such as taking a walk after meals)

""I have always been loyal to the Clintons"

Sure you have ... as long as they ignore the knife in the back.

A cool article about Cher helping a children's orphanage in Africa.

http://news.scotsman.com/scotland/Superstar-Cher-steps-in-to.3905712.jp

Maybe Obama has determined to name Richardson as his running mate? That would certainly be an incentive for his endorsement.

JennBe,

A good friend and colleague of mine quit about 6 months ago - he uses those little orange tablets that I presume contain nicotine -Seems like a less noxious way to get the drug, although I think whatever works for you is what you should do, He talks about how much better things taste - which would do it for me,

Wendy, I notice you didn't include the following paragraph. Apparently Edwards isn't the only one not quite ready to leap on the Obama bandwagon:

"Contrary to the inevitability campaign Obama supporters are currently waging (what else is left after failing to win it outright on votes or to change the superdelegate rules in the middle of the game...) high level Democrats still have reservations about Barack Obama as the nominee and Obama supporters would be well-advised to accept and respect this fact. ... If it's so impossible for Hillary Clinton to win, why aren't they ending this thing right now? "

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That's all the tech matters I can handle for now. Happy Easter all and i'm off for my Sunday walk.

"Craig,How are you doing?--Posted by: Jamie"

Well I won't say I havent lapsed on the cigs, Jamie. Still consider myself "quitting." But few and far between, much much better. Thanks for askin

Craig,

I was serious about the hypnotism. It really helps. :-)

Keep at it. It took me long enough.

Warren

" Not all of us are in awe of Her Majesty"

And not all of us worship at the shrine of St. Barack

Well, I just can't make myself work this afternoon. It's sunny but cool and I have bulbs waiting to be planted, a boneless leg of lamb (bet that lamb walked funny) waiting to be roasted and a wife home alone while the Prince visits his grandparents this week, so I will be going now. Everyone have a nice one for what's left of the Easter afternoon.

A Letter to Rep. Sally Kern
by: refinish69
Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 21:56:38 PM CDT
Oklahoma Rep. Sally Kern has stated that Homosexuals are more deadly and a bigger threat than Terrorist or Islam. I have many things I could say about this ignorant Bigot but the letter from an 18 year old who lost his mother in the Oklahoma bombing in 1995 says it more clearly than I ever could. Tucker tried to deliver his letter to Rep. Kern but like most hate filled Republicans, she refused to see him and had the state troopers stop him. Nothing like a chicken shit Representative who refuses to see her constituents. Listen to her comments and then read Tucker's wonderful letter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_y3-ckuM3E

Perhaps Democrats should be going after her with the same venom they have used on one another...

Craig I know you have a busy schedule but its great to see you posting lol
P.S. Craig I got a new browser "apple safari" with built in spellcheck to cut down on my typos, even when mom is not around I find myself trying to compete with her. She can type an astounding 120 wpm with precious little errors, the nun at school said my mom has perfect typing rhythm [she never lets me forget this lol]
--Heather

Flatus,

The tone of your apology left me unsure if you were being sincere or sarcastic. Considering the general tone here lately, I defaulted towards sarcastic. I don't know you well enough to make that type of prejudgment and that is simply wrong. I apologize and I will not make that type of judgment again.

I am sorry my comment offended you.

Note: I got swept up into the NCAA tourneys so that is why I am so slow to notice and react to some posts...

Last before before I fire up the smoker for the ham and get my clubs to hit the driving range...

I see a lot of talk about Richardson being disloyal. When I hear this discussion, I think to Steven Covey's writings when he talks about making deposits into an emotional bank account. Relationships work best when the parties involved are both making deposits. Perhaps Mr. Richardson was tired of being reminded by the Clinton's that they made him?

Thx Bear for posting that.

It's nice to be reminded every once in a while of why we shouldn't move back home so soon. OK is such a dangerous place with all those LGB suicide bombers running around.:-)

http://www.texaskaos.com/

you need that link to find the letter the kid wrote the #@$# from my above post...

Bear, I'm glad you understand. I would never be sarcastic about a topic so important to so many people.

When I want to kneecap somebody, I do it unambiguously and with extreme violence. :-)

Rather than sit here and sulk, I told you how I felt, and now we can have some genuinely good conversation.

Since I don't have any stake in the tourneys, may your picks come out on top!

"She can type an astounding 120 wpm with precious little errors,"

Holy Cow! My top speed when working every day was 90. That is phenominal.

Bear,

I hope Oklahoma City has a recall law and that people are taking advantage of it to get rid of the witch.

I'm sure it's only a matter of time before she runs for Congress...

Here is an interesting article I came across by Joe Wilson. Finally a breath of fresh air about the real messiah Obama.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/02/obamas-hollow-judgment-and-empty-record/

--Heather

Heather,

Thanks, but that breath of fresh air has been passed around this site more times than a joint at a Grateful Dead show...

LOL well truth has a way of resonating and making the rounds Bear lol

--Heather

Thanx guys for all the support! I quit before, the day I took my pregnancy test for my first child and then didn't start back up again until after my second was born. This time is just so final. It sucks! I bought the gum yesterday, but it was awlful, so last night after we had my birthday dinner with friends we bought the patch, so I've been wearing it all day, seems to be helping some. I was just having a bad morning and the kids were on a chocolate bunny high that was driving me nuts. Been trying to vary my routine some.

Goods news- One of my girlfriends who worked in Jeb's administration with me is an Obamacan, too!!! We're starting our own little revolution......

Heather are you my twin? hhahah
Boy we sure think alike I agree about your idea that it is not a movement. I have felt for a long time it was orchestrated from the beginning, even his senate seat. Interesting that he never made any direct accomplishments as a senator. He even voted abstaining rather than yes or no.
I think this his entire life has been set in motion for one objective, the White House.
Where is he getting all that money, unheard of amounts in our history.
Something is fishy.

Warren says:

"Good for Richardson for standing up for what he believes in - and resisting the strong-arm tactics of the Clintons. (Who sought to keep him quiet with threats and by plying him with chicken wings)."

Warren: I don't believe the Obama campaign is exactly saying "pretty please" for endorsements and/or super delegate support:

"Rep. Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri said Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois had recently asked him "if it comes down to the last day and you're the only superdelegate? ... Do you want to go down in history as the one to prevent a black from winning the White House?" Jackson added, "You might find some young primary challenger placing you in a difficult position."

Sure sounds like a threat to me.

Do you have some specific examples of what the Clintons did to "strong arm" Richardson besides the typical "anti-Clinton person" comments?

Carol and Heather: Depends on what kind of movement you are talking about...if you get my drift.

Sally Kern's son is gay... whudda thunk it? But then so is Phyllis Shafley's son. Strange world.

"Rep. Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri said Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois had recently asked him "if it comes down to the last day and you're the only superdelegate? ... Do you want to go down in history as the one to prevent a black from winning the White House?" Jackson added, "You might find some young primary challenger placing you in a difficult position."

And if you don't live in Emanuel Cleavers district, you don't know how silly the threat is. Cleaver knows how to run in a black minority district. Obama should have him as an advisor then a Chicago wardheel politician like JJjr.

Jack

Jack, the more I hear Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. speak, the more I think he is nothing more than a THUG.

What a creep.

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Phyllis Schafly's son John is a really pleasant man. He's an attorney for her group The Eagle Forum, but spends a great deal of time attending to his mothers travel and events ... or at least did the last time I ran into them about 10 years ago.

I got a few comments on my blog from since nice people here... not saying that others aren't nice, just that I got a few comments regarding my diet.

It's going along, but it SUCKS. I can't eat fruit or bread or pasta or anything other than this powered food crap though I cheat with rice crackers. Normally I wouldn't give a crap about losing weight but the diabetes and blood pressure are consistent concerns. (I think the blood pressure went up after I joined this blog... hehehehe).

Anyway, has anyone ever went to a hypnotist to deal with addictions? I mean, we're talking about smoking and the difficulties there. I am wondering if I couldn't go to a hypnotist to be convinced that I hate all food except green beans - joking. I did once go to one when I was like 20 years old to try to give up sugar. I was good for 6 months, but I think the reason was that I spent $50 like in 1980 and wanted it to not go to waste.

This was totally Off topic, so sorry.

Jamie, her son John may be nice but he is in service to the devil herself. He works for a group that ostracizes gays and lesbians, not to mention attacks on feminism, equal rights and freedom of choice. It makes about as much sense to me as a Jewish person becoming a neo-nazi.

And I forgot to say, uh, Happy Easter (or whatever you celebrate)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThEAO0lt4Dw

Eat, uh, lots of chocolate bunnies or uh, whatever you eat. I am off sugar so, uh, no bunnies or Peeps for me...

The way real politics works
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDS5JimKQg

Jack

EUROTOM

I had a friend who was a heavy smoker. One day he told me that he was to the hypnotist on 1st Ave, the one who specialized on addictions. He went and, to my knowledge, never smoked another cigarette until he died some years later.

Based on that one experience, I say anything is possible.

"While the competition has been keen at the New York Times to secure the mantle as the most virulent Hillary hater, Frank Rich is in a class by himself. No other columnist now writing for the “Gray Lady” is more intellectually dishonest and lacking in basic integrity than Frank Rich...

Hey Frank? Ever heard the aphorism, “people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw rocks?” You smeared Al Gore in 2000 and helped elect George W. Bush in 2000. You tarred leading Democrats, like Hillary, who pushed for a diplomatic solution in Iraq, as unpatriotic. You suppress and misrepresent Hillary’s real position on the war. You ridiculed the U.N. and the weapons inspectors, who were doing a good job and helped whip up public sentiment to reject the peaceful solution to the Iraq threat. And you shilled like Judith Miller in warning Americans about the existence of Saddam Hussein’s WMD."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/23/the-intellectual-poverty-of-frank-rich/#more-1904

testing again...

Ally - chocolate bunnies... waaaaaahhhh !

Happy friggin' Easter ... I am off sugar too.

1st avenue as in Minneapolis?

ET: Usually I fill plastic eggs for my kids Easter baskets with candy. This year I bought everything in individual packaging instead. Not good for the environment but I didn't eat any candy that way...UGH.

ET, nah, it was 1st Ave N in St Pete. The guy set up shop in a house that was converted to commercial property. Low rent, medium sized sign, well kept lawn. He was there for at least ten years.

GORDO

Tried your link about Rich and wonder why people here were so worked up that I would choose McCain over Dorian Gray Obama? I simply can't vote for him.

Milquetoast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Bl2_4KtFg

Something a bit different
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKKpscN7ZTY

ET

Your brain doesn't understand the word "NO". Hypnotism helps, but it works by telling you "Yes". So they would do things such as "Yes" I really like to walk or "Yes" that powdered stuff actually tastes good.

It's not the spooky when I count to three you will cluck like a chicken. lol

In any case, it can't hurt.

The first time I quit smoking I went to a hypnotist and literally could not get back in my car until someone took it to be washed so the smoke smell was gone. I didn't smoke again for two years until Uncle Sam sent my son to gulf war one and I was spending 24 hours a day with CNN. :-)

I went to one of those traveling hypnosis guys who came here....room full of people, cheesy tape player with ravi shankar type music......Mr Maiko....... but it worked......got up the next morning without a cig and was quit for 3 yrs......

I'll start my week listening to Craig on MoJo. Joe certainly has mellowed a bit, but Mika is adamant. Did anyone hear her defending the pastor fiasco on Fri.? It really is ridiculous. I think there is something to the post about the upper echelon not asking Hillary to quit. Second thoughts are creeping up. GOOD! The "white paint" posts were hilarious. Takes the edge off of the GREAT Richardson endorsement. BFD. Rendell tore him a new one today. The Pearl Harbor comment made me LOL. Let's see what this week brings!

It works better with the good ones and the bio feedback and a follow up tape of the session for reinforcement.

Anyone heard the lastest? Obama has sent a very nasty letter to the Hillary, calling her a liar and a number of other things. BOY is he getting desperate.
He knows he is going to get blasted in PA. and that will do it for him.
I guess the letter is terrible, lots of nasty words.
Am I mistaken or was Obama saying he was above such things? Yeah right.
He had such lofting ideas that he was not going do nasty stuff, raising above it all.
HE is really running scared.

Happy East Everybody ... A little Tom Lehrer for the ocassion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f72CTDe4-0

Sheesh

Occasion

Carol

Has the letter been released, or is this just a rumor?

cant imagine anyone in these times actually sending a nasty letter.......has it turned up anywhere or is it just a rumor......

happy easter to us
happy easter to us....

(everybody sing along now)

Happy easter to us
happy easter to us....
happy easter to ussssss

(Just the gentiles, now)

Happy easter to us
Happy easter to us.....

(Hey Just the Muslims now)

Happy easter to us....
oh well.....

I'll see if this one works. Then, I guess, I'll have to always remember to say who I am!

Patsi

Cool...it turned out I had an old Typekey ID from a rural blog I sometimes visited. Maybe that was screwing me up.....

Anyway, didn't know if Pogo posted this for me when I was blocked. But I wanted to give a shout out for my favorite Brooklyn Dodger, Johnny Podres.

Patsi,

How about keeping it simple and just getting a Patsi ID and click the "keep me signed in"...Saves a whole lot of effort.

LOL, Sturge! Okay maybe I'll head down to St.Pete and see if the guy can give me a two for one, Kill the smoking and eating!

Say it with me, ET, just like Obama, "Yes we can!!!" (you can whisper it if you want)

On a political note- The Rasmusson people called and polled me today, it was all about general election matchups, said I would vote for BH and the questioning went on to ask about issues comparing HC with JMc. Does Rasmusson do polling for specific canidates or general consumption?

I will try to remember each time to sign "Patsi" but obviously from the second post, I will forget from time to time....not trying to be secretive. (And I'm afraid to try and change the name now, since I was bumped for two days....)

Loved those Brooklyn Dodgers!

Patsi

Rasmusson would do a poll on your preferences in seaweed if you paid them :-)

Just had a typical NYC Sunday afternoon (even if atypical for me since I am usually on the couch...)

I went to an exhibit showing the works of Shinjo. A Buddhist Master from Japan. A very zen and serene experience. Then, my friend and I walked over to Union Square - where the Black Israelites were ranting about the evils of the "white man." Their agression was contagious - and led to many rancorous debates in the crowd watching. There were two middle-aged white men having an even angrier debate than anything taking place on the stage. These two men were having the tired old debate about the veracity of the Holocaust.

Anyways, it reinforced why I support Obama.

That which we have in common is greater than what divides us.

This is something I firmly believe based on my experience and everything I have read. And I just think Obama's life story will help make this a hallmark of the Presidency. (Especially in light of his brief time in Washington - which fuels the divisive battle between Democrats vs. Republicans).

The maxim above holds true whether the debate is between: Democrats vs. Republicans, Clinton Supporters vs. Obama supporters, blacks vs. whites, straights vs. gays, Iraqis vs. Americans, men vs. women, evangelicals vs. secularists, and whatever other Us vs. Them debate you can think of...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlY-JlE5ZCo

Jamie -- how do you change your name at typekey?

Patsi

ET:

My philosophy on addictions is that each of us have a certain amount of addiction swirling around in our soul. Therefore, you can't get rid of one - unless you replace it with another.

So just find another addiction. Preferably one that is healthier!!

ok..... now I have a typekey account....

Lardass and Uburrito....
thanks for the laughs over the white paint......

Heather.... give those baby puppies a kiss from me.....

hope everyone had a good day....
Rick and I went to my parent's and had a great meal..... my mom is the best cook I know.....

Warren..... that reading list from yesterday was great....
but I'd include a copy of Walden..... haven't read it in a while.... I need to remedy that situation with my "abundant" free time..... ;0)

Speaking of polls, there is a new Insider Advantage that shows a different story concerning the fall out from Pastor Wright and Obama's speech.

Here is the link:
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MzlhM2UyYjYwNjJkOTA2NTk2NjBjYjU0NGJjNmMyYTE=

hey Bridge, I have lots of bridges don't need anymore. haha
Yes, the letter was talked about on Fox this afternoon. Don't know the particulars but I know he called her a liar. I just watch Richardson and Randell (sp) and it was very interesting. Richardson was so unnerved and he looked sick, in the head that is. Anyway Randell did an excellent job and Richardson could not even give an decent response. Richardson wants Hillary to drop out so badly because he knows Obama will be whipped badly in the upcoming primaries. I just love it. haha

comments are great here! The hypnotist ones are funny, and instructive. Warren I guess we are all addictive by nature... it's how we address it I guess.

Off to bed and goodnight

Patsi

http://www.typekey.com

Sign in and then go to edit

You should be able to change your display name or if all else fails, create a completely new ID. Once you do that, return here and sign in with your new ID and then click on the "remember me"

Carol,

If I'm reading this posting on Fox about the Richardson Rendell confrontation, then it wasn't a letter. It was the comparison of former Pres. Clinton to McCarthy

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/23/richardson-refuses-to-liken-clinton-to-joe-mccarthy/

The 22nd Amendment, a dealbreaker for me from the outset, has been discussed too infrequently by either the media or the posters here. Yes, there have been some comments about the fatiguing effects of a Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton scenario, but there has been little mention of the underlying reason many Democrats (and many Americans) reject the Clinton candidacy. That may change, if we see more articles like this: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/22/172816/116/741/482336

It's time to stop ignoring the elephant in the room.

Benjamin...I'm just glad they passed the 22nd Amendment when they did, just in time to stop Bess Truman's power grab. You know she was gonna lay low, and then go for it in '56. She wanted it. Real bad.

Benjamin Blue

The reason for the 22nd Amendment was the fact that in 1952 after more than a decade of Democratic party power, a World War, and an economic downturn, the Republican party was massively in the catbird seat and they detested Franklin Roosevelt and were scared it could happen again. The 22nd was practically arm twisted and force fed through state houses.

They were really really sorry when they couldn't run Ronald Reagan another time. Naturally that would have been a disaster which may be another arguement for the 22nd, but the Republicans at the time were actually trying to figure out if there was a possibility of repeal and settled for the next best thing Bush for one term, trying to do everything possible to cripple the Clinton terms, followed by Bush for two terms.

Clinton just doesn't sound all that bad.

Have a good evening.

the 22nd has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton.....she's obviously never been president.

When asked whether he would consider serving in Obama’s cabinet as secretary of defense, Hagel said such a question would be premature at this time, adding that he does not “expect to be in government next year.” Hagel is not seeking reelection.

http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/hagel-cool-on-backing-mccain-2008-03-23.html

He was careful to leave the possibility open.

Benjamin blue.

Just who is it that is rejecting the Clinton candidacy.
Just the 3% ers you know Naderites. The same ones that gave us this mess.

Jack

"Hagel said his pick for president, Republican candidate John McCain, must run against a tide of bad feelings toward his party." 3/7/08

Hagel says a lot of stuff. Some of it he means

Aha! Jamie, thanks! That was easy....as my kids have sometimes said to me..."Mammy -- ig'nert!"

Did they ask Hagel if he would consider being in Hillary's Cabinet?

" I just think Obama's life story will help make this a hallmark of the Presidency. (Especially in light of his brief time in Washington - which fuels the divisive battle between Democrats vs. Republicans)."

I've never even been to Washington. I think that qualifies me.

I just KNOW you folks are going to get "O" the President stickers to further brand this thing. From worship of W to worship of O.

The story of "O" ?

Jamie,
There was a letter also. Probably hear more about it tomorrow. Don't think they mentioned it on the Fox broadcast it was another station, I think. I flip around so much who knows. haha
I just know Obama wrote a letter to Hillary and called her a liar. That was the talk.
I am off to watch tv.
Hope you all have a great Holiday.

ROFL! Sturge....The Story of O -- good one!

Fierce Attack on Green Zone as Violence Erupts in Iraq

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/24/world/middleeast/24iraq.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Looks like reality is erupting all over the place

Jack

This is an interesting piece from Steve Gilliard (RIP) from 2000. Damn I miss Steve's commentary. He was fabulous on miliary history.....

http://www.disobey.com/ghostsites/netslaves/comments/975733210.shtml

Class Is More Important Than Race (And Almost Everything Else)

Posted Sat Dec 2 00:00:10 2000 by steve gilliard

By Steve Gilliard

Here is where the problem lies. Race is only part of the social equation. Class is the important one and one you see reflected again and again. You can be blacker than night, but if you have a degree from MIT, you're a member of the club. Class is the issue which hits you in the face. No one cares who you date, what color they are or how old they are. They will care a great deal if you start bringing around the cleaning lady.

some more Selena!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbzEgfCwzJU

Jack

No one needs to know this but I just returned from my family dinner, and of coarse I wanted to know their political opinions. It was funny but surprising.

1. Millionaire single brother: sitting out : not happy with anyone
2. Tennis playing sister-in-law: Hillary or if she isn't in she'll vote Obama ( for historical reasons)
3. Matriarch 81 one years young: homeland security number one issue : McCain
4. Lawyer brother: didn't say, but I got the idea he did not like Obama
5. Blue collar union worker brother: Hates all of them, said they all lie all the time.

All men said they thought that Obama was toast because of the Wright/church issue.

That's the funny farm I call "family of origin."

The guy who called Bill Clinton, McCarthy, was Merrill McPeak. I know because he came to my little burg to stump for Kerry in 2004. I asked for Wes Clark but McPeak was the best they could manage at the time. Yikes, what an a**. Here is some of his background: He ran Bob Dole's Oregon campaign in 1996, endorsed George Bush in 2000 and was arrested for DWI just a few years ago while driving his Japanese car (so much for the vote of confidence in the American worker)

Plus the military didn't have such a high opinion of him when he was running the Air Force (concentrating on such things as changing the style of the uniform which the Air Force promptly discarded when he left). The military and the country are so f**ked if he gets any position of authority under an Obama administration. I shudder to think he is giving military advice to anyone. He is a loud mouth and I wish the Republicans would take him back.

Lets summarize the emergency economic actions taken so far resulting from Republican recklessness.
1. Stimulus package costing $150 billion.
2. Cash loans to banks to keep them afloat $100 billion.
3.Loans in the form of Treasury bonds to cash strapped investment houses.....$ 200 billion
4.Engineered fire sale of Bear Stearns to JPMorgan with loan of $30 billion.
5.Extend discount rate to security dealers normally reserved for banks.
6.Continuing cutting of interest rates.(market expect more rate cuts).
7.Provide a cushion to Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac to absorb additional mortgage investments of $ 200 billion.
This is a disaster that is absolutely mind boggling.
Not since the Great Depression have the country faced such economic challenges.
When you thing of the cost of the Iraq war so far ,you have to give Repugs credit.
They are the party of "fiscal responsiblility". They burn taxpayer resources hundred of billions at a time.
Given another four years and we will have a country of 1% rich and 99% underclass!

BO DIDDLEY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgzn7VyoqEw

Jack

Hillary True Believers leave reality behind, in search of greener pastures

By - March 23, 2008, 2:09AM
Faced with the cruelties of mathematical probability, more and more True Believers in the Hillary camp have chosen instead to live in an escapist fantasy land where Obama is a racist, Hillary secretly has all the superdelegates in her pocket (the ones who endorsed Obama or are uncommitted are just for dramatic effect) and everyone in Pennsylvania is going to vote for her.

Yup, she's going to win 90% of the vote! You just wait! Also, those 2 million donors? All members of al-Qaeda!

Ferraro is a courageous hero! It's the black voters, and those damn "guilty" white voters who are voting for a bigot!

I also have evidence that red is blue, up is down, and being behind by 180 actually means you're ahead.

Zoey

That would be Merril "The commander in Chief, doesn't go on television and have crying fits" McPeak.
Spoken after the New Hampshire primary. Is he still part of the Obama campaign? My oh my

Jack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4kH15Ny2ho

call me al - for fun

"Is Hillary Positioning for 2012?

Here's a good one if you want to believe Air A merry ca's Young Turks

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/is-hillary-positioning-fo_b_92904.html

Cappie
I'm afraid it's the Obama faction which seems to be mostly composed of "True Believers"......Hillary supporters are more pragmatic, just wanting a Democratic win in 08, rather than a replay of Gore and Kerry and Dukakis etc........

Chuck Berry: Mabeline
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGgObQR_a9c

Jack

If Obama was white he would not have been still running after all of that scandal with his “uncle” pastor. We, the “white people”, cannot use the word “black” in public, only African-American; while on the other side, a person that attends an African-American racist church every Sunday and listens to the bias of anti-white preaching, can still be running for president!!! Do you really think Wright has preached that kind of preaching just that one time? Also do not forget! Obama has been listening to Wright’s preaching for almost 20 years!!!
Obama said "the most segregated hour in American life occurs on Sunday morning”. I don’t think so! I never ever heard of any white priest preaching from the altar such racist ideas against blacks, or any other segments of the American population. Probably that is happening in Obama’s neck of the wood… If he genuinely believed in solving the race issue, he should have done that “outstanding speech” long before his ass was in hot H2O because of his close connections with Wright
Obama's rhetoric about "hope" & "change" is just a grammatically @ ideologically misspelled propaganda...
Imagine him being the Commander in Chief...!!!
Well, if lefties (Kerry & Co.) succeed in hijacking the Democratic Party leadership, I can see that a lot of Hillary supporters would vote for McCain. Obama's candidacy has been artificially blown out of all proportion. Does he really believe that he stands a chance to win the General Election? Everyone I know would vote Republican this time if Hillary is not going to be the nominee...
Obamatics forget that the majority of the US are not lefties. Bill Clinton knew this very well. That's why he was able to build a centrist oriented coalition & won both elections.
Also, it was in Obama’s interest for Florida & Michigan not to rerun their primaries. Do not forget the majority of the voters in both of these states voted for Hillary. That’s why lefties are not interested in finding a solution. He knew full well he would lose both of them. So, how he is going to win without Florida & Michigan?
What a sad joke!!!
The whole point is supporting a winner in November. I can't see that happening if the Democratic Party goes for Obama... A good portion of white Americans center-left, center & center-right either will vote for McCain, or will not vote at all; same with Latinos & Asians... He will lose Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. He will have a weak showing in New York, New Jersey, Los Angeles. He will lose most of the so-called red states that gave him their votes to just convincingly defeat him this Fall...
The rhetoric about Hope & Change is just propaganda, without being backed by substance. His voting records are disturbing. His pullout-the-troops plan without having a real plan is disastrous... And overall, when McCain will win the November Elections, the African-American community will feel even more anti-American & racial than they feel now, because their hopes got demolished by their hunger for power without the backing of the majority of the American people...
These are my reasons why I cannot support Obama.

anyone who would vote for a republican of ANY stripe after the last 7 years has gotta be nuts.

Sorry Rez

That is just the Obama camp running scared, They have a problem and they don't have a clue how to deal with it except hope it goes away. So they do like they have all campaign they start feeding their media outlets and change the subject. As you know Huffpo is one of their favorite media outlets.
Only a fool or in this case a paid hack believe that HRC is gaming the system so she will be able to run in 2012.
Jack

Jack,

I alluded to the bias by mentioning Air America and Young Turks. it is funny that a reporter on Mathew's wkend program brought up the same line of thinking. I 'm not selling it but don't be surprised if this story line takes off in the coming weeks.

Arben

Tell us the truth, You aren't going to vote for a democrat any way, are you.

When I talk about race any more I tend to talk about assumptions made individuals.
IMO you need to check some of your basic assumptions, I'm having a hard time making ignorance cover them, even Republican ignorance

Jack

ARBEN Camaj
What insight!
Lets have a rerun in the form one big national primary and silence that don't nominate Clinton(DNC) movement.
They are "power hungry" and are intent on destroying the party!
I have bad news for you.There is a high probability that you will have to exercise that choice and vote for McCain!

Rezdog

I went back and reread my post. It sounds as if, after rereading it, i called you a fool, I did not and if you read it that way I apologize.

I think you are right about this meme spreading, it will spread much as the "Clintons are racist" meme did. IMO a lot of it by lazy ignorant reporters. You have to admitt the Obama campaign is as adept at using "lazy ignorant reporters" as the Republicans. At least that is one good point in Obamas favor.

Jack

Jack,
I wasn't offended by any of your comments and would not expect to be. If you google Hillary+1012 you get several current hits but all strong left leaning. i was reading this story when i heard a new guy on mathew's reporting it. it struck me funny.
It's mainly a spillover topic from HRC losing the nom and what next ..I do think she's toast the time around. Whether that means an Obama victory is another story. He's getting badly damaged and the right would like to run a scare whitey campaign.

Evening everyone. I spent the day at my parents place. Earlier tonight , I asked my Mom if I could look at some of our old family photo albums. Among the the old photographs , cards and other momentos was a old newpaper article that was folded in two. I opened it up and it was the front page of the Adrian Daily Telegram from June 6th , 1968. The top story was the assassination of Bobby Kennedy. I had no idea my Mom had ever saved the newspaper from that day.

Patsi

I think your statements of class vrs race has a lot of validity to it.

I know I get along better with working class non urban folks. I have more in common with my Mexican neighbors than the american ones.

My sister ran into the same thing in college. Patsi , we were very poor, our house had no indoor plumbing. My sister became lifelong friends with a Navajo girl who was raised in similar conditions. The young lady was a bit embarrassed about her poverty and felt comfortable being around my sister.

Jack

MSNBC is reporting that the death toll for U.S. solders in Iraq has reached 4000:
Wow..

Rez

I suspect you are right about Clinton But I think she has another kick or two in her.

I just thought of this. Another group with a motive to encourage HRC to step down are the superdelegates themselves.
I can think of 2or 3 ,just in the Kansas City area, that may take medical leave during the convention.
Dennis Moore, Kansas Congressman, is one that has to be feeling the pinch.
He is caught right in the middle of the friction between Urban and suburban. He has a base in both and counts on them equally. A vote for Obama makes his suburban base suspicious and a vote for HRC makes the black neighborhoods in Kansas City Kansas mad.

LOL

Jack

4000,
Damn,

The little high school that I graduated from has lost 2 graduates to this war. Not more than 150 students in the whole highschool. I was down that way and stopped in a local convience store they had the pictures over a dozen local men and women who were in the military. This burden is hitting hard on a few

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ftWerL1Wcs

Jack

nite all

Jack

"It's mainly a spillover topic from HRC losing the nom and what next ..I do think she's toast the time around. Whether that means an Obama victory is another story. He's getting badly damaged and the right would like to run a scare whitey campaign."

Wow. I have so many things that I think about this Rez. I don't know where to start. But here goes.

1. Scare whitey? What the hell does that mean? I keep hearing black commentators say on televison that there's this "be afraid of the black man" thing going on. And Obama using his old grandmama as an example. WTF? Let me tell you, I've never walked across the street to avoid a black man in my life. The ONE "ethnic" group of males that might freak me are skin heads. Screw all this "fear factor" stuff.

2. Right now Hillary is no more toast than Obama. The more he trashes her and her husband in insidious ways, which he has done from almost the beginning, the more they both are bloodied.

3. There are a myriad of white commentators who have never in their lives interacted with blacks or any other ethnic group. I don't want to go all Spiro Agnew on you, but they are elitists who live so far from the working class whites, blacks and hispanics I know that sometimes I wonder how we as a country have survived the media viewpoint at all. In all honesty, I believe some of these a-holes really believe electing Obama will make up for all these centuries of discrimination. In their evil little hearts they are thinking, "Hey, it's cheaper than reparations..." Assholes and maroons.

4. When Barack Obama praised Ronald Reagan and said he was a more transitional president that Bill Clinton I knew he was willing to throw the entire Democratic party under the bus to win this thing. RONALD REAGAN, who did more than NIXON to destroy this country. And don't give me that story about how he just meant Reagan "influenced" thinking. He knew EXACTLY what he was saying. He just didn't realize how much some of us would be pissed off.

Just happened across this story on NY Times. This is the root of much of what is going wrong in this country. We have a generation of bullies.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/24/us/24land.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1206331704-L0iD51U7IiRVB8jmswJnsg

Warren..McPeak and Obama should not have made Bill Clinton's remarks into something they were not.
I think Barack is very quick to feel offended. He tends to overreact. He either believes what he says or it is a political stunt.

Evening Patsi,

1. My "scare whitey' comment is as stated, a RIGHT WING campaign that's being waged everyday, by the likes of Hannity, Gingrich, Limbaugh and their minions hoping to scare up older white racist fears of "black power" challenging their authority. Very simplistic but it sells. Gordo blasts that shit all day with his links.

2. Whether you agree or not, I think Hill loses the nomination to Obama, irrespective of the results of the last 10 State contests. They're trashing each other and it's getting worst. Maybe you think both (Clintons) of them have clean hands. I don't. Obama's just as much a politician as they are..apparently better as it seems. I'm not one of those naive, starry eyes kids looking at the high road. I don't like Tom and Daisy as I once did and I sure as hell don't trust them.

3. Everyone has their reasons for supporting Obama. For most of the SDs, it's self preservation. They think he'll help as a ballot mainliner. Others, I'm sure run the spectrum of rationales,morons included.

4. I think I understand what Obama was trying to relate with his Reagan comments and I don't think it was praise to him or even a slight to WJC. I will agree RR was bad for our country as was Nixon in each their own ways.

Patsi,
I was looking for this earlier and just found it.
It's what RR Jr, had to say of BO comments.I agree with him.

"They both came along at times when society was on the cusp of change and they are both agents of change," As far as Barack Obama being a similar agent of change, that remains to be seen. But what I do see him saying is that we are in a historical moment right now like the 60s and 80s. And I think he's right. We are overdue for a cultural shift right now."

"Gordo blasts that shit all day with his links."

Gordo does do that, Rez, and dammit, Gordo, stop it!

I guess what is irritating me the most about this campaign, Rez, is this idea that one candiate is pure and the other just the same old same old. I just don't see it that way. These are two tough political animals. And the race is almost tied. I understand the delegate counts, etc. HOWEVER -- this process has convinced me that we Democrats are screwed in the way we do things. Caucuses...some votes counting more in Texas than others. What the hell happened to one vote, one person?

Rez, I still don't buy the RR rationale. I know what he said and why he said it. Two reasons: first, he knew he had to take Bill Clinton out of the equasion, and second, he was hoping to atract California voters.

I think is thing goes ever deeper.

I honestly believe that the SC strategy was planned.

Find any comment relating to race and magnify it. I don't think he realized he had to do it until then.

I really liked Obama a lot -- even though I didn't buy the "no red or blue America" schtick...until the way I started seeing him campaign.

"Very simplistic but it sells. Gordo blasts that shit all day with his links."

Yes, it does sell. Tonight, I've heard 4 right wing radio shows blasting away. Obama would be destroyed in a GE campaign. There is much more about Obama that is not known to most people.

"They think he'll help as a ballot mainliner."

Wrong!!! Dems would be running from Obama as fast and far as possible.

Gordo,

If it's just your RW radio buds then, they are, never were, won't vote for Obama anyway. No sweat, no great loss, you and the likes of Larry Sinclair are fringe.

" There is much more about Obama that is not known to most people."

Well, the where the hell is it? I have many problems with him -- experience, his way of campaigning against Hillary -- but Good God, get off the conspiracy shit. He's a politician, no more no less.

Well, I should have been in bed an hour ago! Tomorrow, my friends....

Patsi,

I try to simply reply to your comments without infusing many of my personal feelings or thinking because i'm just trying to answer your question. I'm fairly private and I generally keep it that way here and in real time. I have what I think are some valid reasons for supporting him and it's mainly along the lines of my sincere desire and interest in seeing our younger generation of democrats get involved, something i didn't do very early.

Later, it's yours G-Man

Rev Wright's statements bothered many in addition to Right Wingers - there was a link up thread about this. Obama would be one of the most beatable Dems ever in a GE campaign. I warned about the Rev many weeks ago - more "dirt" is out there. So much for the Repubs to work with - almost too much. Decisions, decisions - what to use.

Wow, just got back from Toledo and the whole Easter party thing...can't read 600 posts to catch up but the topic seems to be about Obama falling and regaining strength. It's fascinating for sure. Criminy sakes , it's going on towards 4:00 AM and I'm running on fumes...gotta hit the rack!

Just happened across this story on NY Times. This is the root of much of what is going wrong in this country. We have a generation of bullies.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/24/us/24land.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1206331704-L0iD51U7IiRVB8jmswJnsg

Posted by: Patsi | March 24, 2008 12:12 AM

Patsi, I just read that article before I came here. It's disgusting. I was a target as a kid, and let me tell you it stays with you. It's hard to get those tapes out of your head and you find yourself wondering "what the fuck is the matter with me? Am I really such a terrible person?" Fortunately I came back from it because I was too obstinate to let the assholes bring me down, but it's been a long road to forgiveness. And when I read the article, I felt that same revulsion and hurt that poor Billy is going through... The bullies should do time.

I still think Obama offered Richardson a major position within his administration in exchange for his endorsement...

Obama new politics? What crap.

But having said that, if Obama is the nomination, he's got my vote. I can't NOT vote for the Democrat no matter who it is.