McCain's Head Start

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While Democrats squabble, Republican nominee-to-be John McCain travels abroad, including a surprise visit to Iraq. This is the sort of thing that campaign gurus for Hillary Rodham Clinton or Barack Obama had hoped to be doing right about now, launching an international tour for a presumed nominee. But instead it is McCain who is auditioning for Commander in Chief.

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    1. Gosh Craig,

      I don't think it makes a bit of difference for even the Republicans with Bear Stearn in the starring role this Monday.....its the economy and everyone is getting nervous.

      McCain should be advertising that he is boning up on the state of the economy. His now famous statement, I don't know much about the economy", is going to haunt him in the months running up to November. Even Bin Laden, who will be rearing his ugly head to influence the election won't be able to direct this one.

      "LOOKING" Presidential is not good enough.

      Posted by: Sheila Hussein the Chef Nun | March 17, 2008 6:22 AM

    2. In Addition, did you know that "Carlyle Group" reported negative numbers for the first time in their financial history?

      If the Bush family's own oil connection is floundering, the economy is in trouble.

      Posted by: Sheila Hussein the Chef Nun | March 17, 2008 6:24 AM

    3. RE: Obama being a no-show on Fox. I thought he did appear on some Fox show to talk about his preacher problem.

      It's MoJo and the Today Show that he's cancelled for this morning, according to Scarborough.

      Given the latest outburst by his church, the new preacher claiming the white media is crucifying Rev. Wright, plus the reports that Obama was present at some of Wright's speeches, I assume he's in deep damage control.

      I still don't understand why he felt it necessary to lie about ever having been aware of Wright's statements. It really was a Gary Hart type mistake.

      None of his supporters care if he lied. Very few of Hillary's supporters give a damn about Wright being a complete lunatic.

      But what I am concerned about is his tendency to cancel shows depending on his mood. He did that before New Hampshire, and even his campaign admitted that they wanted to make sure he didn't say something wrong. Like McCain, this is a thin-skinned man.

      He should have gone on those shows and made a joke out of it. "Actually even if my picture was taken at Wright's church, I wasn't really there. I only voted present."

      Posted by: Patsi | March 17, 2008 6:31 AM

    4. Morn'n all.

      Sheila.... The ticket of McCain / Romney solves the Economic problem with great strength.. the word is in that this is the winning ticket, lets see.

      Patsi... gosh. agreement again... I would call BHO behavior more examples of "Childish" and more proof that he lacks maturity to President. I can hear him now, its my ball and we play by my rules na na na

      Posted by: Ping Pong Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 6:38 AM

    5. Mr. Obama, We Have a Question

      "Why won’t you release your schedule that notes the dates when you attended church and heard the sermons of Rev. Jeremiah Wright?

      We want the facts, sir. Just the facts. You deny being at the July 22 service — as is asserted by Newsmax — but you provide no verification that your claim is accurate. You can deny from now until the end of time, but you need to provide proof, sir.

      Dear Readers: It’s reminiscent of Obama’s failure to provide policy analyst Steve Clemons with a list of the countries in Europe he falsely claims he has visited. Clemons asked because he, and others like Salon’s Joe Conason, are shocked that Obama has failed to convene a single meaningful hearing as chair of the European Affairs subcommittee for the U.S. Senate’s Foreign Policy committee or to have visited European countries. Obama’s excuse is that he’s been too busy campaigning. But he did claim to have visited Europe. However, he won’t supply his passport list, as Joe Conason points out in...

      Then there are his records for his years in the Illinois state senate. He doesn’t have them. Doesn’t know where they are. Countless reporters — from the Sun-Times’s Lynn Sweet to the Associated Press — have lobbied Sen. Obama to supply those records, but he claims to have no records."

      http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/16/mr-obama-we-have-a-question/#more-1831


      Posted by: GORDO | March 17, 2008 6:44 AM

    6. Krugman has a decent op-ed about bailing out the financial markets. We all have a stake in what's going to happen so it's time to get educated:
      http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/17/opinion/17krugman.html?ref=opinion

      Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 7:06 AM

    7. I read something saying that oil futures are trading at over $100 a barrel through 2019.

      The whipsaw that's being setup will take down national economies worldwide.

      The owners' of the oil patch are really playing with fire. They're buying other assets using the value of their oil. But, the value of those assets will surely drop, along with oil prices, when the market ultimately collapses.

      Time to buy enough land to sow a productive kitchen garden.

      Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 7:12 AM

    8. "Time to buy enough land to sow a productive kitchen garden."

      Too true.

      Posted by: Patsi | March 17, 2008 7:18 AM

    9. CNN - LOU DOBBS TO BARACK OBAMA "YOU CHOSE YOUR PASTOR"

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47YF421IrGE

      Posted by: GORDO | March 17, 2008 7:24 AM

    10. Attack the candidate, attack the minister, attack the church.

      It appears that there are more Nazi Dino's out there than previously known.

      Posted by: anon-paranoid Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 7:24 AM

    11. Sit Back... Here is the Ping Pong,,,,
      The Rev Wright in his way did express a message that was simlar some bible belt white churches, Read Between the lines...
      That the US was attacked as an act of God to punish for our lower values, becoming less of a God fearing country. Do you see any connection?
      NOW - this does not excuss Mr Obama for his failure to be honest about his activity, and does this continue today with Mr Obama - that maybe parts of him does believe the Rev but Mr Obama knows that could be true political instant death.

      Posted by: Ping Pong Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 7:28 AM

    12. It was just as ridiculously disgusting when they said it as when Rev. Wright said it and they were taken to task for it by KO, etc.

      Oh, and Happy St. Patrick's Day.

      Posted by: blueINdallas | March 17, 2008 7:32 AM

    13. Top o the morn'n to you Blue (that today we may all be of the Orange....or Green)

      Blue - you got my point - I think....

      Watch for BHO to turn these lemons into Lemon aide, I can hear him know.... Yes I deeply love this country and as a spritual man connected to God, One could see the anger for our failure to honor the blessings and share grace with all peoples.

      Posted by: Ping Pong Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 7:38 AM

    14. Good Morning Craig, Everyone!

      Erin Go Bragh...Happy St. Patrick's day to all!

      My wish to all is an old Irish Blessing:

      May you be blessed with
      warmth in your home,
      love in your heart,
      peace in your soul
      and joy in your life.

      This is my wish to Craig and each and everyone here...all of which I humbly call my friends, thank you for your warm welcome that I have received the short time I have been here. May my days here grow as numerous as the stars in the sky!

      God Bless You All.

      Sincerely,
      Heather

      Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 7:48 AM

    15. "LOOKING" Presidential is not good enough.
      --Sheila

      Are you referring to Obama? 8)

      Posted by: LushIsLinda Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 7:48 AM

    16. Ah, the little trickster is eating blogs this morning.

      Posted by: blueINdallas | March 17, 2008 7:50 AM

    17. Thank you Heather, that was nice.

      Peace

      Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 7:51 AM

    18. Heather (and all ye regulars)-

      May the road rise to meet ya and the wind be always at your back, and may God continue to bless and love us all.....

      So we all can do more then just get along !!

      Posted by: Ping Pong Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 7:59 AM

    19. My Op-ed:
      Monday March 17th 2008

      It Requires Courage And Grace Under Pressure To Be A Loyal Democrat

      Ernest Hemmingway was once asked to describe “guts” he replied grace under pressure.
      I realize this is what I must aspire to. I will not speak ill of McCain a man who has suffered and sacrificed so much for our country. I cannot and will not support his campaign for the presidency. First and foremost because I am diametrically opposed to the greater majority of his policies, primarily making the Bush tax cuts permanent, the exact opposite of universal healthcare, I do not want to see that privatized, nor Social Security/Medicare. I can go on and on with a litany his policies but I think my point has been made.

      Perhaps most importantly and above all is the GOP War Machine the Lee Atwater/Karl Rove factor that should deeply appall every American.

      How the media treats this man is beneath contempt. The status he held in the Bush White House is beneath contempt. He is not “Bush’s Brain” more like Bush’s tempter. He is a flawed man. I cannot and will not support any candidate that benefits from a man and his policies that choose cowardice over courage, deceit over honesty, cheating over integrity and dishonor over honor. Rove’s mentality is simply winning at all costs, lies, rumors, and bear false witness against thy opponent, anything it takes to win.

      I rather lose with honor, dignity, and self-respect and have the respect of my peers in tact. I believe that means justify the end rather than vice versa. I remember an interview long ago that Ted Koppel had with Anwar Sadat; they were casually walking along the River Nile the paused and Ted Koppel asked Mr. Sadat what he would like to be remembered for Anwar Sadat replied, “I’d like engraved on my headstone Here lies A Man Who Was Willing To Die For His Principles Rather Than Live Without Any.” I never forgot that lesson and always try to employ that in every facet of my life.

      It is in our humanity that we blossom as human beings; it is in our honor that we are respected it is in our compassion that we are strengthened it is in our suffering that we increase our character; it is in our honesty that we inspire others to a cause greater than themselves. It is all these that will create a government and a legacy that will serve our children and future generations that, “more perfect union” that our founding fathers and all veterans died face down in the mud for.

      I believe in a greater America pre destined by God’s Holy Grace, a pioneer spirit of helping thy neighbor, compassion for the poor, the elderly, and the afflicted. An America of racial egalitarianism and unity. An America not based on the legacy Bush created that greed is good for America.

      For these and many other complex reasons if Senator Obama is the nominee I will support him, I will trust him with my faith and loyalty with the great hope he will not abuse it and I pray that he will “grow” into the presidency with grace honor and distinction. For now, I will continue to support Senator Clinton. I have to be brutally honest, I see Senator Obama as a repackaged version of Jessie Jackson with fancy oratory skills and a Harvard Law Degree. Maybe he will prove me wrong but he has a long way to go. I will be a loyal “Truman Democrat” I cannot support any political party that lacks courage to prosecute Karl Rove for his many criminal proclivities the worst of which is “voter caging” which simply put is the suppressing and intimidation of the minority vote, this is the same tactic used by the Ku Klux Klan. In the mean time, I was deeply offended by Peggy Noonan lambasting Geraldine Ferraro, Ms. Noonan I suggest you clean the racial skeletons in your own party before criticizing ours. Ms. Noonan as a fellow Irish "Colleen" that was difficult for me to say, but I felt it necessary to do so.

      Well my time is up and I thank each and every one of you for yours.

      Sincerely,
      Heather

      Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 8:01 AM

    20. Top of the morning to you Heather, and other C Listers.
      Very nice Irish greeting for today. Thank you.

      Cannot face green coffee cream, but maybe a beer later in the day...

      Posted by: dog hussein dog | March 17, 2008 8:08 AM

    21. Heather,
      Got to go to work, nice Ed Op, as a few things are retro. John McChange is not Karl Rove. Need to have your Op Ed have the seperation, Other wise the immoral acts of Bill Clinton should be attached to Hillary or even Obama.
      Note - that I am also fasinated by Barack, But do not think he is ready to handle the wheel of this great country.

      We will have to dive deeper into the Healthcare another day as I gotta go to work.

      Let each on stand on their own..

      Nice getting to know you.....

      Back later
      Da Pong

      Posted by: Ping Pong Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 8:13 AM

    22. Peggy Noonan the one who had an affair while married
      that nooners ....

      a little more idiocy from Peggums
      http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8360.html

      Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 17, 2008 8:18 AM

    23. Ping Pong

      "Yes I deeply love this country and as a spritual man connected to God, One could see the anger for our failure to honor the blessings and share grace with all peoples."

      It is way too early for anyone to do that to my barf reflex. I posted at the end of last week that he could have done this when the first tape surfaced, but that he blew the opportunity to do so. Now it will be just as phony as he is.

      Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 8:18 AM

    24. I am really turned off now by this whole election process, and that is because it is just about personalities and not about any substantive information on important issues. The most important job in the world is up and the three people who want it can't seem to be honest with the public on their views and where they stand.

      Erin go Bragh and Happy St. Patrick's Day to Heather and all of us. Don't think it's too much green beer we are going to be drinking today; it's the green cheese we have already consumed.

      Posted by: Clemmieo | March 17, 2008 8:18 AM

    25. The new minister at the Obama's church accused the media of being racist in their approach to this story.
      Morning Load was all offended that someone would accuse him of being a racist.

      So morningload shall we review your accusations against Senator Clinton and President Clinton?

      Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 17, 2008 8:24 AM

    26. I agree Katherine,
      I believe he used the term, "the white media is crucifying his religion"

      The ironic part is that he expects us to take that remark seriously

      --Heather

      Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 8:29 AM


    27. The ironic part is that he expects us to take that remark seriously

      --Heather

      A number of people need a trip to the irony board.

      Heather
      A belated welcome. You may have mentioned this already, but where do you live. Just curious.
      And for the others who have joined recently, there is a map..just for fun.

      Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 17, 2008 8:39 AM

    28. I live aproximately 25-30 miles north of NYC

      --Heather

      Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 8:43 AM

    29. "Nazi Dino's "

      Kiss my butt, anon. I dislike ALL wild eyed preachers whether they are calling Natalie Holloway a slut, like Wright did, or screaming hell and damnation to frighten people into turning over their paychecks.

      And tin foil hats don't impress either.

      Posted by: Patsi | March 17, 2008 8:49 AM

    30. Here's what I learned about government bail outs.


      Borrow really big and the government will bail you out.
      One loan and you are out on your can and homeless.

      Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 17, 2008 9:04 AM

    31. EdvB

      I think you need to write to Senator McCain about
      being accurate.

      Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 17, 2008 9:08 AM

    32. Thank goodness I can see Hillary's Major Economic Speech!
      I had all i could take of supply side moron Kudlow. It's not just his political ideology that drives me batty it's his arrogance about it.

      ughhhhhh

      --Heather

      Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 9:10 AM

    33. mornin' all.

      Thanks for the Irish blessings - what is it they say? We're all Irish on St. Patrick's day.

      dog - green coffee creamer? I may have some of that in the back of my fridge - note to self - throw out the green coffee creamer. Now that green beer - there's a bar next to our building - P.J. Kelley's - I may just have to stopin at the end of the day for one of their green brews (although a Guiness would certainly be a bit more Irish than a green Miller lite).

      Obama has done what too many pols have done in the past and it is catching up with him and showing. His denials are transparent and lack any semblance of credibility and his repudiations are a day late and a dollar short. IMHO it won't matter in the end - the dem electorate appears to be pretty much factionalized now, so the endgame's results among dems won't be affected much by this latest revelation. The indies may not be so entrenched though, and I hope they aren't - we'll just have to stand by and watch.

      Posted by: pogo bin agogo | March 17, 2008 9:11 AM

    34. Sen Obama wants to see the Michigan revote legislation before giving his okay for the plan. EXCUSE ME !!!

      He wants to interfere in how a sovereign state will hold its election and decide for the whole of the Democratic party if it is "acceptable" to his highness.

      Caesar was an ambitious man.

      Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 9:16 AM

    35. Speaking of transparent:

      Chuck Todd you can come out of the closet and admitt you are in the tank for Obama and not an unbiased analyst. For you and MNBC not to admit it is an insult to any American Citizen with a modicum f intellect

      brb watching illary speech on C-Span2
      --Heather

      Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 9:18 AM

    36. Senator Clinton is giving a major address

      When Mitttens did that everyone carried it live
      When Rudy did that everyone carried it live

      Not so for Senator Clinton fatass morningload and Mtrs. Load are talking over it.
      CNN is carrying. it MSCRAP tastic

      Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 17, 2008 9:19 AM

    37. Attack the candidate, attack the minister, attack the church.

      It appears that there are more Nazi Dino's out there than previously known.

      Posted by: anon-paranoid Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 7:24 AM

      Turn abouts fair play.

      It's ok to attack Hillary at every level minimizing her lifetime of public service. Allowing people who are being paid by the Obama campaign to analyze her "experience" while other's like George Mitchell who are not associated with the campaign confirm her claims as accurate...George Mitchell is ignored while Susan Rice becomes the expert on her experience?

      Supporters of Hillary Clinton have watched a lifetime of her work - work that has people saying...She saved my life, she saved my child's life, my child has health care because of her, her role in bringing women to the table was key to our negotiations, while the other politicians said they wouldn't forget us after 9/11 she's the only one who didn't forget us...etc. etc. etc etc. - we've watched it picked apart by the Obama campaign, the leadership of the Democratic Party and the media.

      Obama can take a little criticism I think...especially since the work he's done as a public servant doesn't hold a candle to what Hillary has done. I can tell you, I've been searching, and I can't find one person that says...Obama saved my life...Obama didn't forget me. All I see are a bunch of starry eyed college kids and musicians talking about how inspired they are - they can't tell you one thing he's actually done to make a real difference in real people's lives - probably because he's never spent enough time in an office to make a difference...a lot of work to run a campaign and if you're always running for the next highest office...not much you can do for the people who elected you to the office you currently hold. Why doesn't Obama come out this morning and purge himself a little bit more...is he shocked that his Friday confessional wasn't enough?


      Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 9:20 AM

    38. Heather,

      I wrote a make myself feel good even if it won't be read email to MSNBC over the weekend

      "You are so deep in the tank for Obama, you will get the bends the next time you come up for air!"

      Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 9:20 AM

    39. Happy St. Patty's Day....

      I'm not wearing any green..... but then.... hey, I'm French....
      since I don't drink beer..... guess I'll have to settle for a glass of Wild Irish Rose.... hmmmm..... that's good wine....

      yes.... McCain has a head start on the general election....
      and if he does pick Romney as VP as Ping keeps suggesting, they will make a formidable team, IMO.....
      if the economy gets much scarier.... and it looks like it will...... I think a lot of voters will welcome the addition of Romney back into the political limelight....

      I'm just watching the scenery and praying for the Democrats.....

      GO DEMOCRATS!

      Posted by: RebelliousRenee | March 17, 2008 9:26 AM

    40. Ping Pong,

      Top of the mornin' to you.

      I wish I felt the same about Romney that you do.

      As part of my business I have spent the past six months working with hedge funds as institutions and with individual managers as private investors.

      I wouldn't say their concern is the nation's benefit in almost anything they do anymore than that concern is shared by the government of China.

      And then there is the issue of the personal fortune he spent on his campaign months after it reached an undeniable point of diminished return.

      Again, I have no doubt he has a lot of acumen in his field. I just find his field is about stripmining resources and not about building for the future of anyone beyond a small group of investors. That's a hazard of his chosen profession -- one he certainly excelled at.

      The firm for which Edwards worked was the only one which went public, paid (for the industry) its taxes and made its business publicly known -- and which ended (before he joined them) their policy of offshore banking of their assets and profits.

      The same can't be said about Romney's.

      Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of) Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 9:27 AM

    41. Romney Good for the economy??????????????

      It is his type of business practices that has caused the problems.

      Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 17, 2008 9:28 AM

    42. Renee

      A drinking song just for you

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwLnrzd93zo

      Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 9:30 AM

    43. jamie, I saw your comment yesterday about HBO's John Adams and watched the first 2 episodes last night. My god, what a great production. Paul Giamatti and Laura Linney are excellent in their roles. I believe this may be Giamatti's signature role.

      heather, really, you think Todd & MSNBC are in the tank for Obama? Absofuckinglutely - and premium at that..

      anon-P, apparently you have lost what little grip you had on reality wrt this presidential contest. It's adversarial by nature, unflattering words about the candidates are part of the process, associations matter, and you've chosen a candidate whose feet are of clay like the rest of them.

      Posted by: pogo bin agogo | March 17, 2008 9:34 AM

    44. mscrap more time on Heather MIlls than on Senator Clinton's speech.

      Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 17, 2008 9:36 AM

    45. Pogo

      It is so well done and they are getting a great deal of the dialogue direct from letters and diaries of the period. I'm recognizing whole lines from those I've read. It is a marvelously detailed production. Of course the book was incredible. McCullough is one of those historians who can make the story of history flow as if it were a great novel.

      Now the Robert Wuhl special is absolutely hilarious. Particularly the bit about "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." line from Liberty Valence. He should teach all history classes.

      Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 9:41 AM

    46. Jamie...
      thanks for the song.....

      9/11 and KGC....
      I agree with what you both said about Romney..... but unfortunately, as we've discussed before... perception in politics is everything.....
      I think a lot of voters will remember Romney as the one who saved the Olympics..... it isn't smart.... but it's what will be.....

      Posted by: RebelliousRenee | March 17, 2008 9:42 AM

    47. If you want to b**** about the MSNBC non coverage of Clinton, go here:

      http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboards/thread.aspx?threadid=599583&boardsparam=PostID%3D16229221

      Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 9:43 AM

    48. pogo,

      If only Giamatti got to sing in a movie again.

      The Adams adaptation is really something.

      Did anyone here see Crossing The Delaware on A & E? Superb work, too -- best realization of Washington's character in any actor's performance (this time Jeff Daniel's).

      Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of) Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 9:47 AM

    49. "Romney as the one who saved the Olympics..... it isn't smart.... but it's what will be....."

      Ask Peter Uberoff how that works out. Not so much.

      Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 17, 2008 9:48 AM

    50. jamie,

      I keep thinking it's the same small group of people who watch MSNBC daily... and some watch, some just have it on for the sake of the soundbites and furious company while they are alone.

      Me, I refuse to complain about the lack of coverage of anyone's campaign on Turner Classic Movies.

      Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of) Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 9:48 AM

    51. 9/11, I did see the A&E production. I frankly was astounded at how good Daniels was in it - I don't get to see much theatre here in the wilds of WV, so I have really only seen him in his film roles, none of which led me to expect him to be able to perform as well as he did in CtD.

      jamie - I love Wuhl. I was a huge Arli$$ fan. Is his special on HBO? I'll have to catch it.

      Posted by: pogo bin agogo | March 17, 2008 9:54 AM

    52. Dear Jamie:
      I totally agree with you. Your time is far too priceless to bother commenting or registering with them which requires my ss# for tax id puroposes...lol I don't think so
      p.s. I loved Hillary's major speech, thourough, to the point in plain concise english.

      --Heather

      Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 9:55 AM

    53. KGC....

      yeah... I know....

      picking a president by asking who'd you most like to share a hamburger with at a barbecue hasn't worked out so well either.....

      how much do you want to bet that there's still plenty of voters who will pick whom they'll vote for in November using that standard.....

      many people never learn their lessons and repeat the same mistakes over and over again..... especially voting Republican.....

      Posted by: RebelliousRenee | March 17, 2008 9:55 AM

    54. renee, so true. Get any special deals at LaHout's?

      Posted by: pogo bin agogo | March 17, 2008 9:57 AM

    55. Pogo: Obama is human; I do not buy your "feet of clay" description unless you concede that we ALL have feet of clay.

      IMHO, Rev. Wright's comments were going to come out sooner or later, sooner is better, I think, and Obama should have been more out front of the issue.

      I can understand the reluctance to criticize someone he sees in full, with all of Rev. Wright's accomplishments too, but this is the day of youtube and Macaca.

      Fox is airing the more incendiary Wright speech soundbites on heavy rotation -- eventually people will tire of that and tune back in closer to Pennsylvania primary. Fox and youtube and internet run the risk of the "Rodney King jury" effect, where the beating tapes were played so frequently they eventually desensitized the viewer.

      Further, most of us do not live in the black community, which faces more struggles than most of us.

      I don't know about you, but we have NO drivebys in my affluent white neighborhood, and -- first time ever -- I left my purse atop planter outside door while lugging in groceries and a pizza last night. Noticed it first thing this morning when outside to collect paper -- it was plainly visible and not touched. Credit cards, digital camera, cash, expired coupons and undone "to do" lists, everything in place.

      That is my America, and it is not the same America most of Rev. Wright's congregation experiences.

      You guys are really sour this morning. Green does not look becoming on some of you.

      Posted by: dog hussein dog | March 17, 2008 9:58 AM

    56. RR

      I am counting on there not being many Republicans left by November.

      I think a Tshirt with the Karl Rove quote about permanent Republican majorities followed by ROFLMAO would be a big seller.

      Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 17, 2008 9:59 AM

    57. Yes. Wuhl is on HBO. I just happened to catch it before the Adams miniseries started. Some of the bits just have you gasping for air.

      Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 9:59 AM

    58. sen.clinton gave a pretty good 'common sense' easy to understand speech this morning

      Posted by: mqw | March 17, 2008 10:00 AM

    59. heather, that is exactly why I haven't commented at MSNBC before other than by e-mail to Dan Abrams. His e-mail is abrams@msnbc.com. No SSN required. However, I believe that he gave up the post as general manager of MSNBC last October.

      Posted by: pogo bin agogo | March 17, 2008 10:03 AM

    60. 9/11

      "If only Giamatti got to sing in a movie again." Now that he has the Adams character down cold, maybe he could do a remake of 1776. :)

      Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 10:03 AM

    61. dog h dog

      Wright made racially polarizing and offensive remarks about Sentor Clinton this past December.

      This was campaigning for Obama.
      Remind me of the comments of MLK that even come close to some of the remarks of Rev Wright.


      Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 17, 2008 10:04 AM

    62. I am wating for MSNBC to take soundbites from Hillary's speech ut of context and bash her the rest of the day.
      I'm sure Dan Abrams has his strikes segment all lined up aganist Hillary tonight on his reformatted show now called "Verdict"

      ahhh a rose by any other name...would not be as sweet-- Just be aware of the thorns Hillary MSNBC is loaded with them

      --Heather

      Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 10:04 AM

    63. dog.... sorry.... the only sourness I see is coming out of you and anonP.....
      you both commented on the Clinton/Ferraro fiasco.... but Obama/Wright isn't fair game?..... I see both as comments taken out of context.... but they will be discussed no matter what we think.....

      Pogo... didn't buy a thing at LaHouts this year..... I'm really not much of a shopper.... unless you get me in a bookstore....
      BTW..... they have bought up storefronts that have gone out of business..... there are now 5 different LaHouts along a 1/2 mile stretch in Lincoln.... each one with it's own specialty....

      KGC..... I want one of those Tshirts....

      Posted by: RebelliousRenee | March 17, 2008 10:12 AM

    64. KGC,

      "there not being many Republicans left by November"

      Sen. Obama is reregistering them all to defeat Clinton. They get to go back to being Republicans once the primaries are over.

      Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 10:12 AM

    65. RR

      " I want one of those Tshirts...."
      Does anyone here know how Cafe Press works...do you have to provide them a design?


      Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 17, 2008 10:17 AM

    66. Renee: I did not for a minute say that Wright is not fair game. He certainly is. You do not want to paint with too broad a brush there

      If you cannot see the sourness of those besides me and anon p, that says something about your "sourness" meter.

      Jamie provides a good example at 10:12.


      .

      Posted by: dog hussein dog | March 17, 2008 10:18 AM

    67. dog, I do concede that we all have feet of clay - and assert that all pols do - that's why I said "like the rest of them". With him, it's that his followers seemed not to acknowledge that he had the same flaws other humans have, and he's not handling this well, to the dismay of his followers and to the delight of Hillary's and McCain's I'm sure.

      Posted by: pogo bin agogo | March 17, 2008 10:20 AM

    68. OMG! MSNBC!
      breaking news the goldigger Ms. Mills received aprox. 48 mill wopeeeeeeeee ummmmmm who cares, I'm sorry I have to share the same name.

      Right now I am off to NYC for St Patty's Parade with my daughter

      later all

      Sincerely,
      Heather

      Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 10:21 AM

    69. Renee, not even a new pair of Acorns? They now have 5 storefronts in Lincoln alone? More or less evenly spaced along themain drag I hope so that no one had to drive to get to one. lol.

      Posted by: pogo bin agogo | March 17, 2008 10:22 AM

    70. I am beginning to see the unravelling of the fabric of BHO's campaign...it started with the thread of Rezko and the more the press pulled on the thread, he no longer looks like "different" type of candidate. Then the tear of Rev. Wright which is now widening. He actually seems be surprised by the Rev. Wright's thoughts and sermons (hey, I didn't attend that particular sermon -- not). His campaign finance wizard, Penny, is part of the sub-prime mess with her failed bank --Superior Bank FSB...seized by federal regulators in 2001 (one of the first banks to crack from the subprime mess) making one wonder about his candidacy of Hope for the economy....and today from Pennsylvania...an email circulating about Ted Kennedy -- titled the Hero of Chappaquiddick -- It has a photo of Ted with his quoted -- "I just couldn't bear the thought of anyone drowning in a river while trying to make a better life for themselves." Now that is one super Delegate. I am glad to finally see the scruntiny of BHO as I have felt all along he is a politician like everyone else and his "change" message was empty.

      Posted by: Blonde wino Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 10:24 AM

    71. You guys are really sour this morning. Green does not look becoming on some of you.

      Posted by: dog hussein dog | March 17, 2008 9:58 AM

      And here I thought people were pretty good today.. passionate chatting, lots of well wishes, and chat bully no where in sight...

      Posted by: EUROTOM | March 17, 2008 10:26 AM

    72. dog...
      apparently you missed my post from yesterday morning stating that I think it's ridiculous to hold any parishioner responsible for all the teachings of one's church or what one's priest or minister says.....
      your post from yesterday about the teachings of the Catholic church pretty much stated what I did....

      I see Jamie as giving her opinion on Obama and the race for the Democratic nomination...... I see you and anonP as giving opinions on the bloggers posting here.....

      Posted by: RebelliousRenee | March 17, 2008 10:28 AM

    73. jamie,

      Giamatti has one of the most gorgeous, soulful voices around.

      I love 1776 as you know -- but Adams is a four note part. The one truly musical one is Rutledge.

      There is a (tentatively titled) 1776 movie due out in 2009 which is not a remake. It clearly is yet another adaptation of another excellent McCullough book.

      The producer is Hanks whose record with American history (Band of Brothers, From Earth to the Moon) speaks for itself.

      Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of) | March 17, 2008 10:28 AM

    74. But Pogo, which Obama supporters are you talking to, who thought he had no faults?

      There's the broad brush again, and it seems to me an attempt to minimize those points many find appealing about Obama. Emphasis on inclusiveness and working together; also -- to me -- a better chance to bridge the partisan divide.

      Hillary may work effectively in the Senate -- I think she's done marvelous work on the Armed Services Committee, but the warrior/victim image is not working that well outside strongly self-identified Democrats, which I suspect is most of those posting on this blog.

      I think the economy is going to be the wild card in deciding the Dem nomination.

      I'd be interested in seeing a transcript of HRC's speech on economy this morning -- kudos to her on the timing. NY Times did not seem to have it up; have not checked WaPost or elsewhere.

      Wonder if Wall Streeters will be more celebrating St. Pat's or drowning their sorrows tonight!

      Posted by: dog hussein dog | March 17, 2008 10:29 AM

    75. How, oh how will Ms. Mills get by on such a paltry sum? That's what, 3% of McCartney's fortune? I suspect he can have the accountants write a check for that. I'm sure she's disappointed.

      Posted by: pogo bin agogo | March 17, 2008 10:29 AM

    76. Hi 9/11, what is your profession?

      Posted by: EUROTOM | March 17, 2008 10:29 AM

    77. How, oh how will Ms. Mills get by on such a paltry sum? That's what, 3% of McCartney's fortune? I suspect he can have the accountants write a check for that. I'm sure she's disappointed.

      Posted by: pogo bin agogo | March 17, 2008 10:29 AM

      I wish Stella would walk up to her and bitch slap her off her wooden leg...

      Posted by: EUROTOM | March 17, 2008 10:30 AM

    78. George Bernard Shaw would have a comment or two on the soon to be ex-Mrs. McCartney.

      Wonder how the lawyers did.

      Posted by: dog hussein dog | March 17, 2008 10:32 AM

    79. Here's the page for selling on cafe press. Yes you do upload artwork

      http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/sell/

      Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 10:33 AM

    80. Get it all out of your system now Clintonites!! But I do hope you will at least have a tiny amount of respect for Obama once he survives the "kitchen sink" strategy and wins the nomination. It is the least you can do.

      If Obama crumbles and HRC somehow wins the nomination - I will vote for the dream ticket with her on top.

      (you may now return to your regularly-scheduled programming of Obama bashing...).

      (Heather - I left a post for you at the end of the last thread).

      Posted by: warren | March 17, 2008 10:34 AM

    81. You would have to have the soul of a rock not to get cold chills during Molasses to Rum to Slaves.

      Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 10:36 AM

    82. Senator Clinton's speech this morning was about Iraq.

      Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 17, 2008 10:36 AM

    83. obama already turned down VP slot''' which is good' he would only be a political liability now

      Posted by: mqw | March 17, 2008 10:39 AM

    84. Eurotom,

      I'm supposed to be a writer and producer. But I'm mainly a single parent and witness to our dog.

      Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of) | March 17, 2008 10:39 AM

    85. ET

      "I wish Stella would walk up to her and bitch slap her off her wooden leg..."

      Stella spotted that he was jumping too soon for a Linda look alike. A mistake many widowers make coming out of a happy marriage. I'm glad the witch didn't come close to the 300 million she was gunning for.

      Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 10:42 AM

    86. When they announced their engagement, I annoyed my daughter by singing this for days:

      Heather Mills,
      Your ambition starts to give me chills.
      Soon I'll take a lot of purple pills!
      Relieve me, Lord, of Heather Mills...

      She also -- at that time, not later -- did not appreciate that I called this Scrambled Leg after the working title of Yesterday, Scrambled Eggs.

      Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of) | March 17, 2008 10:42 AM

    87. http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/03/clinton_hits_ri.html

      Clinton Iraq speech. I guess if you watch mscrap
      you might not have a very accurate representation of anything Senator Clinton does.

      Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 17, 2008 10:43 AM

    88. Dog

      "George Bernard Shaw would have a comment or two on the soon to be ex-Mrs. McCartney."

      We know what you are, now we are determining the price. :-)

      Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 10:44 AM

    89. Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of) | March 17, 2008 10:44 AM

    90. How much longer can Obama spin his doing poorly with certain demographic groups as a "lack of name recognition". I believe at this point, everyone knows who he is. The problem he's having with certain demographic groups is not "name recognition" but a lack of substance or any real accomplishments that might make these groups back him...unless he really believes it...

      Interesting article on Hillary's Catholic support...Obama just can't figure out...even with the backing of probably the most famous Catholic in the country...why they don't want to vote for him...duh.

      http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120571829306940631.html

      Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 10:45 AM

    91. 9/11 you could help me out here... What is the difference between a producer, an executive producer and an "executive in charge of production?" And where does the power sit with producers and directors? I know with Vicky Wyndham the power stood with her as the main actress on Another World. When Jill Farren Phelps came for a short tenure at AW, the first thing she said to VW was "Oh, YOU'RE the one I can't fire"....

      Hated her ever since :-)

      Posted by: EUROTOM | March 17, 2008 10:46 AM

    92. KGC,

      I haven't had any coffee yet so am I not reading correctly that you called Hillary Clinton a fat ass???

      Heather, welcome and sorry for your name sake. I am sure Sir Paul would gladly pay that money if he was allowed to beat her over the head with her leg for a minute though...

      Am I the only one who thinks the following link reads like today's news?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression

      Posted by: Bear Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 10:48 AM

    93. Look what Heather did!

      Jamie! Dog! Bernard Shaw! All together (except for Heather)!

      We have so so so much to discuss here as voluntary neighbors -- and have fun doing so.

      Almost everyone knows here has experienced this in many ways. Almost everyone here loves to experience everyone else.

      This is a place for politics in media. But even politics has its place which I'd have to say isn't every place at every moment.

      As Jamie's brilliant choice of a birthday lyric observes:

      "A girl/boy has to celebrate everything... passing by."

      Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of) | March 17, 2008 10:48 AM

    94. KGC,

      "I haven't had any coffee yet so am I not reading correctly that you called Hillary Clinton a fat ass???
      Bear"

      Not to my knowledge unless I accidentally did it in some language besides English...could you point me to the reference.

      Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 17, 2008 10:52 AM

    95. Wendy,

      Who is the most famous Catholic in the country?

      Posted by: Bear Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 10:53 AM

    96. Eurotom,

      Here's how I work it out.

      An executive in charge of production can be two different things squared.

      First is a studio overseer who is either a useless pain in the butt or their in-house producer.

      An execution in charge of production can also be a line producer who is the person in charge of both planning/budgeting and day to day production. This is a for hire position rather than a profit participater.

      If none of this is making sense, it is because you are sane.

      An executive producer can be a working producer, someone who was essential in fundraising or a studio executive.

      A producer does everything involved with creating and executing a production including fundraising and getting distribution if it is an independent production.

      Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of) | March 17, 2008 10:54 AM

    97. Wendy,

      Who is the most famous Catholic in the country?

      Posted by: Bear | March 17, 2008 10:53 AM

      The pedofile priest from the Boston Archdiosese?

      Posted by: EUROTOM | March 17, 2008 10:54 AM

    98. Bear

      I see what you are talking about ...my bad for lacking proper punctuation. I was talking about morningload.
      I do not think of Senator Clinton as a lardass liberal.

      Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 17, 2008 10:56 AM

    99. 9/11....
      I've always loved the non-political talk here the most....

      Pogo..... yes.... all the LaHouts are on the same side of the street....
      there's the original...with a smattering of everything.... there's one dedicated to high price avant garde ski clothing.... there's one with just snowboarder stuff.... one that's dedicated to the "life is good" line... and another one dedicated to Patagonia and Columbia stuff...
      unfortunately..... the snow was so deep and the sidewalk wasn't cleared.... just paths leading from the road to the storefronts.... so to walk from store to store one had to walk in the road.....

      Posted by: RebelliousRenee | March 17, 2008 10:57 AM

    100. Wendy,

      Who is the most famous Catholic in the country?

      Posted by: Bear | March 17, 2008 10:53 AM

      Bear...try...Ted Kennedy....

      Posted by: harborwoman | March 17, 2008 10:58 AM

    101. ET hahahahaha

      I meant Ted Kennedy...but he's just as bad...so it really doesn't matter...no I'm not calling Uncle Teddy a pedophile...but he has other problems that make him just as unpalatable.

      Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 10:59 AM

    102. And just in case I offended Lardass Liberal or anyone else with a big butt

      there is nothing wrong with having a fatass
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zER7SSti3A

      Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 17, 2008 11:01 AM

    103. dog, either Mills fired her lawyers or her lawyers fired her before the last 6 day go round before the court. I would have to say that one who serves as her own lawyer when in a divorce involving a $1.6B estate to which you are trying to claim a portion of has a fool for a client.

      And I intended to paint with a broad brush, based on the impression I get from Obama supporters who have almost constantly denied and have certainly consistently failed to acknowledge Obama's weaknesses for the past 9 or so months - what I have referred to as viewing the world through Obama colored glasses. It's been rampant here. This latest flap over the good reverend's positions is a good example. Now maybe those offending views were isolated and closely held, but I doubt it. Having grown up in the Presbyterian church and attended a Catholic church most recently (yeah, I know, atheist and all that) I have never had an "Oh really, I had no idea my minister felt that way about that issue" moment. One thing I've seen is that ministers tend to be pretty out front about their beliefs, tend to work them into their sermons and homilies with fair regularity, and their congregations are generally aware of what their opinions are (except for those little secrets that some priests held very close). It's really quite simple - I don't buy Obama's explanations, denials and repudiations in this case, any more than I've bought his sanctimony about the war or his excuses for not convening his Senate European Affairs subcommittee or his not taking positions on legislation in the Ill. legislature. Doesn't mean I won't vote for him if he's on the Dem ticket - I will. But I'm voting for him with eyes wide open. Oh, and by the way, same for Hillary.

      Posted by: pogo bin agogo | March 17, 2008 11:01 AM

    104. actually...ET...I didn't realize you were responding to Bear but still a BIG LOL for you.

      and the rest of the answer stands.

      LOL

      Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 11:01 AM

    105. Wendy:

      How much longer can Clinton spin the fact that the is losing the primary race on claims that (i) Obama supporters are naive, (ii) Obama lacks substance, (iii) Obama is not ready to be Prez (but he is ready to be VP), (iv) the media is biased, and (v) only a handful of states matter in determining the nominee.

      And if i-iv are actually true - and she is still losing. What makes you so confident she will beat McCain?

      Posted by: warren | March 17, 2008 11:01 AM

    106. I remember that Mary Alice (Mickey) Dwyer-Dobbin was Executive in Charge of Production for Another World, Guiding Light and As The World Turns. On CBS, Michael Goutman was EP on ATWT until JFP was fired from AW and he took over at the Brooklyn studio until the show went off the air... I guess Dwyer-Dobbin was the overseer for all the Procter and Gamble Productions?

      AW was known as "the forgotten soap". NBC never really liked it; they didn't own it, and unlike the other East Coast soaps, it was not in NYC proper but in this strange hasidic jewish community in Brooklyn, so it was cut off from most of the action. I was at the studio twice... awesome, but you really WERE isolated.

      VW's sister thought I should try to create a viewer's advocacy position with one of the networks because I was always pushing the ideas of fans to the show. Both she and VW said that if people want television to be more responsive, they need to have people who remind them that it is the people who own the airwaves, not the corporations managing them. I thought about it, but decided to move to Europe instead. c'est la vie... now I run a gas station. lol...

      I love talking about this stuff.. sorry for the O/T everyone, but the politics have gotten so draining for me.

      Posted by: EUROTOM | March 17, 2008 11:02 AM

    107. "Who is the most famous Catholic in the country?

      Posted by: Bear | March 17, 2008 10:53 AM

      The pedofile priest from the Boston Archdiosese?"


      No, Me son, I believe she would be talkin' about the other pervert from Mass. , Joe Kennedy's (Bless his soul) baby boy. The thought comes to mind this bein' Saint Paddy's day and all.

      Posted by: Father O'Neil | March 17, 2008 11:03 AM

    108. Before I head to work, I do admire Hillary for taking on Blackwater in her speech this morning. The crusader army has garnered too much power from friend, Bush. And it was poor timing that she was cut-off after she mentioned Blackwater.

      Have a good day all...Happy St. Patrick's day. Be careful out there and watch out for the other guy.

      Posted by: Blonde wino Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 11:04 AM

    109. Hi Wendy. leave it to me to be inappropriate when I am talking about religion... :-)

      Oh and sorry for the big O/T talking about the soaps... When I see someone online who has connections with the entertainment industry, I enjoy engaging...

      Warren... I wish I could understand your mindset. You're a decent person even though you did call me an asshole once. I like your passion, but I just don't get your love affair with Barack Obama. I mean, that's more my sort of thing... :D

      Posted by: EUROTOM | March 17, 2008 11:04 AM

    110. Forgive me father for I have sinned ...

      Posted by: EUROTOM | March 17, 2008 11:05 AM

    111. Warren:

      All of the things she's been running on that you listed are actually starting to play out as TRUE...so I believe she can keep it up for awhile.

      Obama's silly excuses are falling apart...he needs new spin.

      Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 11:08 AM

    112. Oh...and BTW...I'm not sure any Democrat can win now thanks to the lousy leadership of the Democratic Party and the sexist pigs that back Barack Obama

      :-)

      Just my two cents.

      Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 11:11 AM

    113. PPS

      I mean the sexist pigs of the Democratic party that back Barack Obama...not anyone here...

      ;-)

      Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 11:12 AM

    114. KGC

      This is the one I was hoping for when clicking your link. :-)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhKDV0QN4ew

      Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 11:13 AM

    115. "I don't know about you, but we have NO drivebys in
      my affluent white neighborhood.....That is my America, "

      You are very lucky. A 60 year old woman got mugged in the Kroger parking lot just down from my house a few months back. And the 50 year old songwriter who tried to pull off the parolee doing the mugging was stabbed to death.

      At my old address, I was robbed two times. And two old women down the street murdered by another parolee.

      Before that address, another robbery....would have been yet another, because they came back that night
      for the rest of it....I had a rifle (unloaded) in the house and was so pissed that I chased them off. None of those areas were considered trashy areas. Nice middle class brick houses.

      Other than the murder down the street this neighborhood has been pretty quiet.

      Posted by: Patsi | March 17, 2008 11:14 AM

    116. Ola Brunkert, former ABBA drummer, has been found dead at his home. He apparently fell against a glass door and cut his neck, tried to help himself by wrapping a towel around it, but collapsed in his own garden...must have bled out before being able to call for help.

      Posted by: harborwoman | March 17, 2008 11:16 AM

    117. Caffeine is kicking in now so my ready skill will improve.

      I'm not sure why Ted Kennedy is getting the label of most famous American Catholic. I would vote for Cardinal Law, who could have been pope if he didn't overlook the priest on boy thing...

      EuroTom, please stop with the soap talk...I need to be productive today and your reminding me of AW is killing me. It's a @#$#@ enough I can remember the theme song sung by Crystal Gayle...AHHHH!!!!!

      Is it safe to say Generations was the Barrack Obama of NBC soaps though? Lot's of promise to start...not enough staying power to last?

      Posted by: Bear Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 11:18 AM

    118. You won't believe this, but almost the same thing happened last year to my ex's cousin... He had two disabled children and was building some sort of structure to help him when the electric saw he was working on fell and cut his throat. He ran outside for help but no one was home... he also bled to death and his poor wife and very confused children came home to find him in the yard. His hands were around his neck. The poor man was younger than me... Not that I am young, I am 48, but younger than that.. around 44 I think or something. Sad sad sad!

      Posted by: EUROTOM | March 17, 2008 11:18 AM

    119. Jamie

      That is a much better choice.

      Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 17, 2008 11:19 AM

    120. WHAT MEDIA IS NOT REPORTING: RE: TRINITY CHURCH!

      Rev. Thomas (Pastor of Mainly White Congreation of UCC) denounces e-mail smear campaign against UCC’s largest congregation - Written by J. Bennett Guess, Jan. 11, 2008

      Obama, who is seeking the Democratic nomination for president, has been a member of Trinity UCC for 20 years." "Trinity UCC is rooted in and proud of its Afrocentric heritage," Thomas said. "This is no different than the hundreds of UCC churches from the German Evangelical and Reformed stream that continue to own and celebrate their German heritage, insisting on annual sausage and sauerkraut dinners and singing Stille Nacht on Christmas Eve. ." While Trinity UCC is predominately African American, it does include and welcome non-Black members. The Rev. Jane Fisler-Hoffman, Illinois Conference Minister, who is white, has been a member of the congregation for years.

      "Trinity is a destination church for many members of the UCC, a multi-racial, multi-cultural denomination that is largely Caucasian," Thomas pointed out. "When in Chicago, many UCC members flock to Trinity to share in and learn from its vibrant ministries, dynamic worship and justice-minded membership. Contrary to the claims made in these hateful emails, UCC members know Trinity to be one of the most welcoming, hospitable and generous congregations in our denomination." [...]

      Rev. Steve] Gray, a member of First Congregational UCC in Indianapolis (mainly caucasian), has worshiped several times at Trinity UCC and is most impressed by the overflowing sense of welcome it extends to visitors. "When you're Euro-American, (White) the people [at Trinity UCC] are so exceedingly gracious, warm and welcoming. They hug you and say, 'Welcome to our church!'"

      This ramped-up smear campaign against the UCC's largest congregation and U.S. Sen. Barack Obama's home church — Trinity UCC in Chicago — has raised the ire of the Rev. John H. Thomas, the UCC's general minister and president, who called the e-mail-driven claims "absurd, mean-spirited and politically motivated."

      The Main Stream Media has been filled with images and video of Rev. Jeremiah Wright's controversial statements for the past four days, 24/7, which Obama has strongly condemned. My concern, however, relates to equal time. When Senator Obama, who, after all , is actually the Candidate, gave a speech in Indiana, addressing his faith, diversity, and unity, and Invoking Robert Kennedy, it has gotten such a tiny percentage of coverage in comparison to Rev. Wright's controversial statements shown every hour in the hour. The main stream media has asked the questions how is Obama to deal with this controversy and when he does they give very little air time to his Answer, which he spells out beautifully in this Indiana Speech. This is just not Right.

      Here is the link to the transcript/video of Obama's speech. Let's urge our friends in the blogosphere, and in every level of media, to Air this and to tell the whole picture, not just a part of it, regarding The Trinity Church which Obama belongs to.

      Posted by: bacaangel Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 11:25 AM

    121. Robert Wuhl has a bit in his newest "Assume The Position" that has all the students beating on their desks and singing "We Will Rock You". Just thinking about the punchline on that one has me grinning.

      Queen is one of my all time favorite groups. Freddie Mercury was a rare treasure.

      Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 11:26 AM

    122. What a horrible, sad story, ET! What a terrible way to die...and to find your loved one.

      Posted by: harborwoman | March 17, 2008 11:26 AM

    123. "...an NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll reported that about 35 percent of Americans believed that it was McCain who had the right approach to the war - not giving up and not leaving Iraq to Al Qaeda and chaos - compared with 30 percent for Hillary Rodham Clinton and 27 percent for Obama."

      Out of the 3 candidates American's like his Iraq plan the least...ouch...what's left? If he can't run on that 2002 speech of his...what ever will he do?

      http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/17/america/politicus.php

      Is it just me or is his campaign falling apart? I can only hope it falls completely apart and the last 10 + revote in MI (and whatever will happen with FL) will do him in. Move on from the Obama disaster.

      Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 11:26 AM

    124. Well,

      I just got an email from a cousin of mine who lives in Boston. She works for a non profit in Boston and I'm not sure how, but she ended up at a fund raiser for Obama last night.

      She just sent me pictures of her with Senator Count Chocula, the Phantom Gourmet, but the highlight of her night by far, was to be touched by Jenifer Garner and to get a picture with Ben Affleck...Jenifer has killer legs by the way...

      Posted by: Bear Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 11:28 AM

    125. Bear, anyone who remembers AW is awesome in my book, seriously. And I do remember Generations! It was with Richard Roundtree, the first African American based soap on national television. AW also had a stellar cast of AA characters. One actor who got his start there was Morgan Freeman... also Howard Rollins Jr... many more...

      I am off to do some shopping... back later...

      Oh and the Theme from Another World that you are talking about was Crystle Gayle and Gary Morris... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpFXS5dILKk introduced by Linda Dano as Felicia Gallant.

      And the last theme song from the show was an ER copy, but all so good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5JWnXUOrzc

      Posted by: EUROTOM | March 17, 2008 11:32 AM

    126. "...fell against a glass door and cut his neck, tried to help himself by wrapping a towel around it, but collapsed in his own garden...must have bled out before being able
      to call for help."

      DAMN! That sounds like the beginning of a Law &
      Order episode! (The guitarist did it...)

      Posted by: Patsi | March 17, 2008 11:33 AM

    127. Patsi, sounds as if you've been around some pretty scary places...

      Here, in our neighborhood, it's been pretty quiet. I don't keep firearms but I do have a KA-BAR fighting knife on top of one of the cupboards. I'm prepared to use it if the need arises.

      If there's an intruder at night, though, I may not even need to use it. Just brandishing it while I'm attired in traditional Scottish battle dress, all 6'-3", 260 lbs of me, will surely terrify all but the most intrepid thieves.

      Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 11:35 AM

    128. Harborwoman,

      I found my mother dead of a heart attack when I was a teenager. I will say it was always more traumatic to realize the number of signs that I missed or when I think back to things I never got a chance to say. Her biggest fear was to be stuck on a machine in a hospital, basically prolonging the agony. So in that sense, I was relieved that she died quickly and in her sleep.

      Jamie,

      Just thinking of Freddie Mercury gives me chills. A Night at the Opera is one of my all time favorite albums. I had a Jewish roommate in college and I loved to antagonize him by cranking Mustafaa...lol Since he had just lived the previous couple of years in Africa, he retaliated by cranking the worst R & B he could find...

      I laugh now because he is one of the two people who steered me towards my musical passion for reggae...

      Posted by: Bear Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 11:36 AM

    129. I just talked to my ex... the cousin who died when the saw cut his neck, he was busy building a special elevator for his two handicapped children. Just makes me shudder.

      Posted by: EUROTOM | March 17, 2008 11:38 AM

    130. Wendy:

      Clinton may be able to start convincing people that these points are true due to the power of the Clinton machine - and its ability to spin.

      But these are the same arguments she has been making from the beginning - and it has not worked.

      It is not true that Obama lacks substance. Obama is also ready to be POTUS (if not - why has he been able to beat HRC in the race so far, stand toe-to-toe with her in debates and also been offered the VP job by the Clintons). And all candidates have naive supporters. And before this primary race began - no one in their right mind would have said NY, MA and CA are the keys for the Democrats to win the general election.

      And I will agree the media is biased. Sure sexism plays a role - but the bias is also created by the FACTS that a lot of people don't like the Clintons - and the media in particular do not like their strong-arm tactics.

      So she will face a similar media bias against McCain in the general (who is a media darling) - i.e., another disadvantage for her in the general. Which is particularly important when it comes to winning over "naive voters."

      Trust me - positive media coverage works a lot better on "naive voters" than the insults I hear on this blog.

      Posted by: warren | March 17, 2008 11:38 AM

    131. ben affleck should stick to what he knows best' acting
      oh wait a minute'' never mind

      Posted by: mqw | March 17, 2008 11:43 AM

    132. KGC & Jamie,

      Those links were a little too much of an eye opener for me this am to go with my java. . . BUT, my bad, I made the mistake of clicking one of those related video. Now I 'm looking for a towel and my windex. :)

      Posted by: Rezdog Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 11:44 AM

    133. Obama with the "fierce urgency of NOW" again. Would someone please get this man to memorize a new stump speech.

      Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 11:50 AM

    134. MSNBC is showing the blogger wars ... we are fortunate here that we can fuss at each other's candidates and pull back (most of the time) from hurting each other.

      Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 11:56 AM

    135. "The confluence of recent news has even the White House distributing press releases. So damaging is the economic news of the last four days that the President has stepped to the microphone in an attempt to calm markets and reassure investors by proposing a yet-to-be-specified economic stimulus package to help keep the economy from slipping into reverse gear. As the New York Times reports: “With the odds of a recession increasing, Bush is weighing the need for an economic stimulus package. The president, who has been plagued by low public approval ratings for his handling of the economy, isn’t expected to make any decisions until later this month. Tax cuts are under consideration, White House spokesman Tony Fratto said. ‘’We’ve done tax cuts before and it’s led to growth,'’ he said.”

      Tax cuts, tax cuts! How can the President be so insensitive to the current reality? The same old remedy of tax cuts, not only is too little too late even for the rich and upper middle classes, but is inexplicable folly in the face of the current negative cascade of economic news. What is more tragic though is the continuing blindness of this President to the lived experience of almost 75 million Americans who don’t own stocks and who don’t work in jobs that pay living wages. How is it that he can remain simultaneously oblivious and yet informed of the fact that the plummeting economic numbers hurt the economically insecure in ways so obvious and so embarrassing that our international partners around the world are openly wondering what kind of a nation we are becoming"
      excerpt from Penn State U. Poverty in America... Dr. Amy K. Glasmeier.
      I totally concur...Shame on you Mr Bush

      --Heather

      Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 11:56 AM

    136. I agree With Blog wars Hillary has been definate been mistreated on blogs!

      --Heather

      Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 11:58 AM

    137. EuroTom,

      Hearing that story makes me believe more and more that God is a Republican...he was telling your exes cousin to screw the handicapped...if the market wanted them to get access to that part of the house, they would do it on their own...unless they were heavy contributors.

      Posted by: Bear | March 17, 2008 11:59 AM

    138. "the cousin who died when the saw cut his neck, he was busy building a special elevator for his two handicapped children. Just makes me shudder."

      That's awful, Tom. Makes me shudder too.

      Posted by: Patsi | March 17, 2008 12:03 PM

    139. Never underestimate people's ability to define an omnipotent being. God gave humankind free will, they use or abuse it by their own will, when its abused by humans it always winds up being God's fault, not humans.

      --Heather

      Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 12:05 PM

    140. Democrats should not be personally attacking Democrats. Unless its someone like Judas Lieberman who is not running for anything.

      Going after the policies of them is fair game, however the personal attacks should be left to the Media and the Republican Fascist Nazi's.

      When you have a Democratic candidate saying a RFN like McCain will make a better candidate than a Democrat will is over the top as far as I'm concerned.

      And I'm sure that both candidates have people on their campaign with ties to many things we all object over. The race should be about issues affecting all Americans and if there are to be death by relationship than I'm sure much can be found out about both Obama and Hillary.

      It use to be that only Republicans ate their own and know I see that Democrats do as well.

      Posted by: anon-paranoid Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 12:06 PM

    141. Is anyone else having difficulty checking new postings?
      Normally, I just click on Permalink and new messages appear.
      Now, I must exit and re-enter blog..

      Posted by: Oregon Democrat | March 17, 2008 12:11 PM

    142. Anon p

      Could you please show me the quote where Senator Clinton says McCain is a better candidate?

      Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | March 17, 2008 12:11 PM

    143. OD...
      I have been having the same problem for about a week.....
      I have to exit and then re-enter the blog to see any of my new postings....

      Posted by: RebelliousRenee | March 17, 2008 12:20 PM

    144. * "Disingenuous"
      * "Too polarizing to win"
      Warren -- here's a few of the words Obama and his minions have thrown at Hillary. So please quit whining about her "kitchen sink" tactics.


      * 'Divisive'
      * "Untruthful"
      * "Dishonest"
      * 'Calculating'
      * "Saying and doing whatever it takes to win"
      * "Attempting to deceive the American people"
      * "One of the most secretive politicians in America"
      * "Literally willing to do anything to win"

      Posted by: Patsi | March 17, 2008 12:21 PM

    145. KGC

      She said, She brought a lifetime of experience to the Presidency. McCain would bring a lifetime of experience to the Presidency. Obama would bring a 2002 speech.

      It was pretty snarky,but it had been a bad few weeks. She has pulled back from that since.

      Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 12:22 PM

    146. Warren:

      now that all the shiny has rubbed off O' it's starting to work...but I admire you in your efforts to try to apply new shine when the old shine rubs off...pretty soon you're all going to run out of polish.

      You all use the word SUBSTANCE in relation to O' quite a bit...though I've seen no proof of it either from any of you or in my own research which I've been doing on my own since his supporters here are never willing to post anything of real substance...just more mumbo jumbo about how inspiring he is. Funny when I look for stories about what a real difference he's made in other people's lives...I don't find anything. hmmmmmmm.....

      Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 12:25 PM

    147. mqw

      11:43 post

      ROFLMAO

      Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | March 17, 2008 12:25 PM

    148. "In 1988, the Massachusetts furlough program was ignored in the Dem primaries—then ate Dukakis alive in the fall. Will Obama end up being “Dukakised” by this, and other matters, if he becomes the Dem nominee? We have no way to know. But on yesterday’s program, Matthews did what he has done for the past fifteen months—he tried to select your nominee for you. We have no idea how he’ll act in the fall."

      http://dailyhowler.com/

      Posted by: GORDO | March 17, 2008 12:25 PM

    149. Jamie

      Did she really say that about the speech. This is the only direct quote I can find. And it sounds to me as if she is challenging the media to do the part of its job that involves reporting.


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