Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Good article:

I'm Black and for Hillary. Get Over it.
By Tara Roberts | TheRoot.com

"I'm tired of race being the overriding defining piece of my identity, of black women's identities. Like Sojourner Truth said years ago, "Ain't I a woman?"

http://www.theroot.com/id/45321

yeah, but.........Matthau and Burns were funny and weren't war-mongering freaks......

Lieberman and McCain could be the "Moonbeam Boys"

If I needed someone to cover my six, it sure wouldn't be Sen Lieberman

Sunjshine Boys
It focuses on aging Al Lewis and Willy Clark, a one-time vaudevillian team known as "Lewis and Clark" who, over the course of forty-odd years, not only grew to hate each other but never spoke to each other off-stage throughout the final year of their act. Clark,

I think McCain and Lieberman are more like the Odd Couple.

they remind me of those two cranky old men in the audience during "the muppet show" who would heckle everyone.

Craig, are you inserting the delays in an effort to cut down the effects of knee-jerk reactions to others' posts?

I read about a piece of software that based on the commenter's IP address, will strip all the vowels from the message then post it without delay.

The time required for the reader to mentally insert the vowels supposedly defuses the volatility of the exchange.

Vowels......vowels?? we dont have to show you no stinkin' vowels....

Good Morning Craig, Everyone:

How nice it is to wake up with Chris Matthews blathering uncontrolably about the lack of an African American presence during his youth until he volunteered in the Peace Corps and who knows, maybe it was the first time Christopher [Chris Jansing loves calling him that] saw an African person of color for the first time Halfway through his interview with Joe Scarborough I thought he was going to cop a mia culpa for everything from growing up without experiencing African American culture in his youth, to being a clumsy dancer with Ellen and the "alledged breast groping" of Helen. It was not to be as Chris put his foot down and said "I will not play Margaret Meade for you Joe". Wow! Chris showing off his macho bonofides. I am mildly impressed ChrisSincerely,HeatherP.S. I hope This Posts and the scroll box shows up in comments

Craig... McCain / Romney -- Does that scare the Dem party?
And please - do not use the term Hawk... Better defined as Strong on National Security... But continue to use but be fair and of BHO use the term "Sitting Duck" to best describe

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hv x gd dy (Some times y is not a vowel)

The Gov Richardson endorsement of the Obama campaign is good news for them unfortunately it is coupled with the story the Obama campaign released a picture of Rev Wright with President Clinton (taken in 1998)

If the Richardson endorsement was meant to help turn the page on the Wright story then flinging poo at the Clinton's just flipped it back.

Strgn wrt, "Vwls......vwls?? w dnt hv t shw y n stnkn' vwls...."

Y'v gt tht rght!

I think if McCain puts ole Joe on the ticket he's toast with his own party - even Obama could beat him at that point.

:-D

I posted this on the other thread - Richardson endorsement does O' no good at this point - might have put him over the top in TX popular vote - but there is no remaining race it will help. Richardson has become irrelevant - plus he all but endorsed him a couple of weeks ago anyway.

Awwwww:

:'( :'( :"(

Sorry Craig I tried

--Heather

Heather

Chris Matthews tries to speak for a whole generation. I am the same age and went to integrated schools from nursery school on --the first integrated nursery school in St, Louis and went to primary schools in Ohio and Kentucky both integrated and highschool as well. Matthews does not speak for anyone but his racist self and his racist family that paid to send him to all white schools.

Heather.....good reading on your blog......tried to comment there, but somehow couldnt get thru the process......
thanks.......

I give up, regrettably I cannot do anything right these days, if I am not offending people with my comments, its not being able to do things correctly, Its very frustrating.

My Humble apologies to all.

Sincerely Heather

Lieberman with McCain....

hmmmmmm......

I know that all politicians have egos the size Mt. Everest......
but I think Lieberman's takes the cake.....

I like the idea of bi-partisanship...... but azzkissing the opposing party's presidential nominee takes it to a new level, IMNSHO

This is funny:

"The meaning of this photograph of then-President Bill Clinton and Rev. Jeremiah Wright, provided to the New York Times by the Obama campaign)?

Zip.

It means nothing.

The former president shook Wright's hand = Obama's 20-year relationship with him? Preposterous. I can't even believe anyone had the temerity to push the photo. The audacity of hope, I suppose."

Rest is here including a little note on Richardson endorsement - he makes a good point that at the very least it helps O' have a little better week. I'm sure the media will be happy to make this into a big deal - they are desperate for him to have some good news.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/the-meaning-of.html

Png, y tw

sorry about people coming and going......old friends drop off and new friends appear.....but the blog abides......this is the one place where I consistently feel at home on the internet, so this is where I check in.

Thanks, CC.......Nice place you got here.........

Stugeone,

Here is Corey's blog

http://themitchellblog.blogspot.com/

Craig, The blog roll might have Corey linked to Dexter by mistake.

Dexter's is http://dextersviews.blogspot.com/

i guess as a white guy '' who works for a living ' i have to prove that i'm not a racsist by voting for obama'
'typical white 'people are automaticaly assumed guilty
of racsism until proven innocent' i' have heard about black anger and resentment all week' well i'm starting to get a little pissed myself
for 30 years i've been paying taxes'' a full 1/3 of my salary goes federal and state goverment'
a lot of that money went to pay for affirmitive action programs'' public housing ' food stamps'free medical care for poor blacks '' and that's ok i can understand
that' being told now by white liberal elitist thats not enough' the only way to atone for our forefathers sin of slavery is to elect a black president'' even though i don't believe he is qualified''' well i have two words for
that' i think you know them

nothing comes up new till I post something.....then new posts show up.....

just testing that.....

Combined -- they're 138 years old. That's a lot of necessary nap time....

Weell siincee yoouu guuys aareen't uusiing theem, II'll giivee aall thee hoomeeleess aa plaacee too staay.

"they remind me of those two cranky old men in the audience during "the muppet show" who would heckle everyone."

ROFL! Exactly! Thanks for the laugh, Mary....

"My Humble apologies to all."

None needed. You haven't offended anybody!

Jamie.......i get corey's blog......
dexter's is the one which doesnt come up.......

John R

The times I was in black churches were usually all those events in the religious lives of friends such as weddings, deaths etc. Then there were by invitation or Choir performances etc.

So no i didn't emerge with my hat tilted over one eye, but sure did a lot of clapping, singing, and smiling.

Converted to Judaism in my 30s so very little "church' time since.

Mornin' y'all!
Heather, don't worry about making mistakes, I still make them all the time. And add that to the fact that I can't spell, it's a great combo.

Nothings got me fired up yet this morning, but I do want so more info on the passport deal, most of what I read doesn't give much info.

Funny post, Craig!

I still think JMc may pick Liebermann for the VP spot. And although it may seem funny now, we won't be laughing in November.

By the way, Richardson is endorsing BHO today...many in New Mexico are not happy about that.

This will fire you up, unless you don't like Western Swing

Asleep at the Wheel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOPNJhmnvYw

I don't see where Lieberman adds anything to the McCain ticket. At all. Maybe a cabinet post for him. McCain needs to go with one of the up and comings.

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Bill Richardson endorses Obama (with a letter to supporters complimenting the Clintons as well):

During the last year, I have shared with you my vision and hopes for this nation as we look to repair the damage of the last seven years. And you have shared your support, your ideas and your encouragement to my campaign. We have been through a lot together and that is why I wanted to tell you that, after careful and thoughtful deliberation, I have made a decision to endorse Barack Obama for President.

We are blessed to have two great American leaders and great Democrats running for President. My affection and admiration for Hillary Clinton and President Bill Clinton will never waver. It is time, however, for Democrats to stop fighting amongst ourselves and to prepare for the tough fight we will face against John McCain in the fall. The 1990's were a decade of peace and prosperity because of the competent and enlightened leadership of the Clinton administration, but it is now time for a new generation of leadership to lead America forward. Barack Obama will be a historic and a great President, who can bring us the change we so desperately need by bringing us together as a nation here at home and with our allies abroad.

Earlier this week, Senator Barack Obama gave an historic speech. that addressed the issue of race with the eloquence, sincerity, and optimism we have come to expect of him. He inspired us by reminding us of the awesome potential residing in our own responsibility. He asked us to rise above our racially divided past, and to seize the opportunity to carry forward the work of many patriots of all races, who struggled and died to bring us together.

As a Hispanic, I was particularly touched by his words. I have been troubled by the demonization of immigrants--specifically Hispanics-- by too many in this country. Hate crimes against Hispanics are rising as a direct result and now, in tough economic times, people look for scapegoats and I fear that people will continue to exploit our racial differences--and place blame on others not like them . We all know the real culprit -- the disastrous economic policies of the Bush Administration!

Senator Obama has started a discussion in this country long overdue and rejects the politics of pitting race against race. He understands clearly that only by bringing people together, only by bridging our differences can we all succeed together as Americans.

His words are those of a courageous, thoughtful and inspiring leader, who understands that a house divided against itself cannot stand. And, after nearly eight years of George W. Bush, we desperately need such a leader.

To reverse the disastrous policies of the last seven years, rebuild our economy, address the housing and mortgage crisis, bring our troops home from Iraq and restore America's international standing, we need a President who can bring us together as a nation so we can confront our urgent challenges at home and abroad.

During the past year, I got to know Senator Obama as we campaigned against each other for the Presidency, and I felt a kinship with him because we both grew up between words, in a sense, living both abroad and here in America. In part because of these experiences, Barack and I share a deep sense of our nation's special responsibilities in the world.

So, once again, thank you for all you have done for me and my campaign. I wanted to make sure you understood my reasons for my endorsement of Senator Obama. I know that you, no matter what your choice, will do so with the best interests of this nation, in your heart.

Sincerely,

Bill Richardson
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Richardson's first rationale: Obama can bring us together as a nation at home and with our allies abroad.

Hillary Clinton cannot do that. She is reviled by too many in the GOP, and pursuing a scorched earth/kitchen sink policy that's made her very divisive within her own party.

The GOP desperately needs to lose the White House and spend time in the wilderness to rebuild and heal their own party.

They will not do that if Mrs. Clinton is in the White House. They will fill her and our every living day with rancor and bitterness. They do not want to hear her crowing that "it takes a Clinton to clean up after a Bush."

Obama is a different story. He is renewal, a fresh start and has the judgment and intellectual capacity to choose good advisors and make sound decisions.

Jennbe

If not for honest people in the state department we wouldn't know about it. I would be interested to know who has the staff augmentation contract and supplied the people that did the deed
Jack

Jaamiiee, yoouu'ree toooo gooood!!

"She is reviled"

And so it begins again.

Put this up yesterday, but the conspiracy theorists about the Obama passport security breech are out today at Talking Points Memo

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/

See "Nuggets"

post hoc ergo propter hoc - "after this, therefore because of this".

A logical fallacy where one assumes that one thing happening after another thing means that the first thing caused the second.

Stugeone,

The blogroll link for Dexter is wrong. It goes to Corey instead. Craig will need to fix it.

Dexter's is http://dextersviews.blogspot.com/

He will need to change to that.

Thanks Bowman, not my normal flare, but a good pick me up. Jack, that's why we need more info......

I am a Roosevelt died in the wool democrat, but this year for the first time in my life i am just done. Stick the fork.
I am still trying to decide to not vote at all ,or go for mc cain and the liberman thing.
The passage in the Oobama book on page 401 i think it is (I WILL STAND WITH THE MUSLIMS SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION) thats what did it for me.
I will also add that Senator ROCOFELLER is in for trouble in his run for office in WVA since he came out to endorse Obama, those people in WVA are calling their newspapers asking who is running against him, so they can vote against him. So I THINK IT IS NOT GOING TO BE PEACHES AND CREAM FOR THEM IN WVA.
I don.t care a hoot about what the preacher said, but I do give a hoot what Obama has to say. TOO say I will stand with the very people who are against us is to much for my AMERICAN mind to deal with..
I hope you will accept my comments on here. I will try not to be a bother but just wanted someone in the know to know how this AMERICAN mind was feeling.

Whiskyjack

The monitoring system for the state dept. was put in place when someone accessed Bill Clinton's passport info....and if we ask our politicians to make their tax returns, diary entries, etc. public info, what is the big deal? At this point, what is to hide? I have a passport and the info is less detailed than my tax return. The IRS can literally enter your home and freeze your assests...this has been going on forever!

Based on the recent attacks by the rightwing noise machine, it looks like Obama is reviled as well.

OK everyone...I am listening to my Elton John One Night Only CD getting ready for the concert in New York on April 9 for Hillary! Is anyone else going?

While our posts are being delayed, can you also take out the typos and stupid statements? I need all the help I can get!

Passport file. On the face of it, doesn't seem as if there was nefarious intent to damage the candidate.

If people really thought about the capability of governments, not just ours, to eavesdrop on our daily activities they would never skinny dip, do more than hold hands outside, talk on the telephone or partake in conversations such as this.

The overwhelming number of 'events' that are captured multiplied by the number of people in our country make it highly improbable that any of us will become targets of those with a prurient interest in our activities.

Now, a governmental interest, that's a different story.

The Richardson endorsement certainly focuses attention on John Edwards. Did anyone see his appearance on Jay Leno?

" the concert in New York on April 9 for Hillary! Is anyone else going?"

Only in my dreams!

Heather....
It seems you are apologizing for someone taking a cheap shot at you over your "religious" post.....

hey.... if someone found that post offensive.... that's their problem..... you weren't deliberately insulting anyone....

blogging can be a hazardous activity at times...... you might find growing a thicker skin helps....

dog..... that was an eloquent letter by Richardson (my first choice for the Dem nominee).... thanks for posting it....

mornin' all.

Dog, it looks pretty even to me.

http://www.pollster.com/08-US-Dem-Pres-Primary.php

And if his pastor is any indication (yeah, I know, AFTER his sermons were posted on YouTube Obama repudiated his views) the only renewal and fresh start I'm seeing is renewal and fresh start of the racial tensions of the 60s.

jamie, I saw these two folks about 20 years ago that employed that logical fallcy to blame cancer rates on the use of refined sugar in the American diet. They showed how beginning around the turn of the century cancer rates increased proportionally with the increased consumption of refined sugar. Of course, the same relationships existed between cancer rates and indoor toilets, the use of the automobile, the use of electricity in homes, all of which were ignored in their false cause/effect analysis. And just the other night, the lights in my back hallway went out just after lightning struck very near our house - I've got to replace that weak breaker some day.

I am confused about the Passport controversy as well. If the push is to be transparent, why is this so shocking?

Also: Joe S. this morning that your education history would be within your Passport files (unless I misunderstood what he was talking about.) Why would your education history be included? It isn't on the application that I can see...

Ally

If there was ever a good reason to vote against HRC, Elton John might be it.
But just for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3ppoX4bVTQ

Jack

i got a passport a couple years ago'' had to send in birth certificate and fill out form' there is no information
that is not easily avalible elsewhere'' its all on public record somewhere

So, in summary, let's look at how Obama smeared his own elderly but very much alive grandmother, calling her:

"a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe."

Well, no, according to Obama's 1995 book, it is not at all true that she "once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street." Instead, she once confessed her fear of one aggressive black beggar who didn't pass by her but instead confronted her, demanded money, and then gave her -- an intelligent, level-headed woman who had worked her way up to a mid-level corporate management position -- good reason to believe he would have violently mugged her if her bus hadn't pulled up.

Rocket man
From the big glasses era.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyha5dFtog4
I found a recent one to and it was just sad.

Jack

Krugman has a Times op-ed likening our current economy to that leading up to the Great Depression. He's spot on:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/21/opinion/21krugman.html?ref=opinion

Okay,

Does anyone have a copy of "Dreams of My Father" handy? If so, what is the language on page 401?

It looks as if Iodine may be circulating an urban legend, but I would like to verify.

iodine,

You must not be from WV. Jay Rockefeller at present is unopposed - at least the Republican party hasn't put forward a candidate. His last opponent - Jay Wolfe - got 37% of the vote - which was a remarkable feat. So far, he's not running. The stronger statewide candidates are running for 2 seats on the WV Supreme Court of Appeals - one seat is an open seat and the other is occupied by the current Chief Justice.

McCain will probably do pretty well here - Bush did win here in both his campaigns. My prediction - Hillary wins the WV primary by 11 pts, Rockefeller wins his seat unopposed, McCain wins here in the general by 4 pts.

(From Pat Buchanan)

"How would he pull it off? I wondered.

How would Barack explain to his press groupies why he sat silent in a pew for 20 years as the Rev. Jeremiah Wright delivered racist rants against white America for our maligning of Fidel and Gadhafi, and inventing AIDS to infect and kill black people?

How would he justify not walking out as Wright spewed his venom about "the U.S. of K.K.K. America," and howled, "God damn America!"

My hunch was right. Barack would turn the tables."

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25634#continueA

Jack:

OK...now you're just being mean! Elton John represents my childhood. I remember my Mom and her friends drinking Gallo wine in our living room and listening to Helen Reddy and Elton John and discussed the feminist movement. Good times!

Elton John is also a champion of the LGBT community...

I could come up with nefarious intent over the passport snooping - since tey are contracted workers as opposed to political appointees I just don't know who they thought they could benefit by doing it - Hillary or McCain. I do think they were trying to hurt Obama - probably trying to show how limited his travels have been.

I retract my statement about the Passport controversy in the respect that I DO think it is shocking that low-level contract employees have access to the Passport records of Presidential candidates. It seems like you would need some high-level of security clearance for such access. That part DOES scare me. The records themselves I don't see as terribly controversial...

The Art of Forgiveness...How I learned to Forgive.

Today is Good Friday and I thought I'd share an experience of my childhood today.

One would think that attending Catholic Parochial school I would have a keen intuitive insight as to what forgiveness truly means, well, I was 10 years old before I finally understood what that concept meant.

In catholic school with the Nuns or with priests in mass forgiveness was always taught in abstract or in bibical terms, rarely was it taught through human experiences in real life.

I truly understood what the concept was from of all places that bastion of Sodom and Gomorrah Hollywood, at least at a time some decent movies were made. I am referring to William Wyler's 1959 version of Ben Hur, even to this day a powerful classic movie. The acting of Charlton Heston in the movie was powerful and extrodinary in the title character as was Stephen Boyd's.

Heston plays a wealthy Jewish Prince Judah Ben Hur, Boyd a arrogant corrupted Roman soldier named Messala. Due to a set of unfortunate circumstances Messala sends his childhood friend [Heston/Judah Ben Hur] to the galleys while there he sends Heston's sister and mother to prision where they contract leprosy. Judah swears vengence against Messala they both wind up in a chariot race Messala is trampled by the horses.

Seeing Messala close to death Judah [Heston] despite all the grief, torment and suffering Messala caused him and his family, Judah forgives him despite his anger.

The scene then shifts to Heston witnessing Christ's crucifixion, afterwards Heston's sister hide in a cave where the rain, and water mixed with Jesus' blood wash over them and cure them of leprosy.

It was then I learned what forgiveness is and how difficult it can be to acheive in many cases because of pride. The movie was a powerful visual aid for this 10 year old girl, and it still serves me well as an adult woman and mother.
Please view this as an inspirational post and not preaching or condescension, that was not my intention

Sincerely,
Heather

Pogo,

Don't forget the great cancer scare of the the very early 1960's. Cranberries cause cancer.

"Chris Matthews blathering uncontrolably about the lack of an African American presence during his youth until he volunteered in the Peace Corps and who knows"

Well that is outright laughable. Matthews is from North Philly. North Philly is and was mostly Black.

Pogo,

It's starting to look as if a lot of diseases and conditions may be connected to all the various chemicals human beings have been pouring into the environment, but I doubt sugar has much to do with it other than being overweight with bad teeth. :-)

I know we are all shocked about passports and private information and contract labor...geez, have you ever called your credit card company and talked with someone from India about your credit? Low level employees? As I have stated before with global mass consumerism (forget Nafta), pretty soon everyone will be low level employees! Who should have access to this stuff to do the grunge work...Condi Rice?

mqw

If there is anything to be gained from those files it might have to do with where he was and on what dates. Other than that, I can't think of anything useful that as you say is available elsewhere.

Ally,

You just come right over here and we will stack up all the remaining snowballs in the country to throw at Jack. How dare he intimate that Elton John is anything other than the greatest!!!!!!! :-)

Well except for Don't Go Breakin My Heart with KiKi Dee. There are limits to may adoration.

Ally, I'm actually impressed that the system tracks unauthorized intrusions that closely. I may be wrong, but I think that the passport stamps into & out of foreign countries are entered into the database whenever you come back into the US. I don't know of any other info that isn't pretty easily obtained other than that, and maybe SSN.

And Craig, love the Sunshine Bouys post - you sure it wouldn't have been more apt to make it the Golden Girls? I can see Lieberman as Estelle Getty to McCain's Betty White.

Richardson is endorseing Obama. What an idiot, and I kind of liked him.
If Obama gets the nomination and he won't but if he does I will vote for McCain or not vote at all.
This whole thing is sick, sick, sick.
I am so appalled at Richardson I even sent him an email. One voice in the wind but it made me feel better. haha
This passport thing is just a ploy to get off the Wright issue. Those people working with passports often excess passports for no special reason. But the media now is focusing on it and not the "judgment" of Obama.

I'm going to Elton John on April 23 here in Tallahassee! He was supposed to play here last Saturday night but it got postponed because he was ill.

Nefarious or just foolish, the passport contoversy, the anticipated Richardson endorsement continues to keep Sen. Obama front & center in control of the 24/7 news cycle.

obama is running for president o the united states' he is a senator'where he has been and when should already be public' didn't he write a book that stated where he has been

Just sent Hillary a few more bucks - in honor of the Richardson endorsement.

:-D

I just read Richardson's comment on this and I cannot believe it. Now I am glad I wrote him.
Craig, PLEASE help what is going on? Am I the only one sane? Is this the way politics has always been but I just am noticing it? I guess I should go back to watching Mash or movies. This whole thing makes me so upset. Now what is Edwards going to do?
Hillary is so strong and will be so good. I do believe being a woman is such a up hill battle in every part of life more so than being black.

BW

"private information and contract labor"

What I find more dismaying is that all of these jobs were at one time full time employees of the government or a company with job security and benefits.

Now they are by contract, often temporary, dependent on screening outside the firm where they are being used with little or no opportunity for upward mobility ... a permanent servant class feeling lucky just to have a paycheck. But that's what you get with an overcrowded world filled with the minimally skilled and equipped with international instant communication

Welcome to a world well on its way to living in the third world.

And as long as we are making releigious posts, today is also a good day to remember Judas. As a child, the impact of Judas and betrayal was very heavy on me. It was perhaps one of the biggest lessons of my religous upbringing. And forgiveness followed, but I remember the sting of Judas.

jamie, I'm fairly well aware of chemical related cancer - my current focus is toxic torts. AS to sugar - you're right on IMHO - bad teeth, fat asses.

LOL about the Elton/Kiki song - I saw them perform that at the U of AL way back when (admitting that I once was a fan of Elton - loved Madman... - but then he once was a piano playing rock & roller), and it took a week to get that insipid song out of my head - and now it's back. Gee thanks. It was the last Elton concert I ever went to. Ooh, ooh, nobody told me (nobody tooooold me...).

this passport business is all one big smokescreen to get the media off rev.wright and obama's dumbass remark about typical white people'' it was'nt right for someone to look at his record of travel abround but its not a national security issue'' or a clinton conspiracy

Jamie: I actually have a lot of snow left in my yard, if you can believe it. You may need to come over here for the snowball making!

We have a 1976 VW Beetle Convertible and the rule is: Only 70s music is allowed to be played in Daisy (that's her name.) So it really makes my kids nuts to travel with me and listen to Donna Summer, ABBA, Elton John and others I won't reveal in an attempt to preserve any scrap of dignity I may still have after revealing these music choices on the blog.

Pogo:

Thanks for the updated pollster graph - it's been awhile since they updated it.

Notice the SHARP upturn in Hillary's line

and the now starting to curve down line of Obama

:-D

US passports are an odd lot. You get your application from the Post Office, it is processed by the State Department, upon entering the US it is scanned by a Immigration Inspector. The other forms that everyone has to complete, the Customs Declaration Forms (CF-6059)

Blond

If you want to get into the religious weeds, Judas is actually one of those logical conundrums that no one can explain and makes the whole tale a little hard to hold together.

Without him Jesus could not have become Christ via crucifiction and resurection, so was Judas damned from the time of his birth i.e. "predestination" or is he actually sainted as the means of arrival at ultimate forgiveness of original sin?

Chase that one around in circles for awhile.

It's almost enough to turn you into a "heck if I know" agnostic.

Carol:

I sent Richardson a little note too - telling him that thanks to him I justed donated more money to Hillary's campaign.

I followed up my contribution to Hillary with a note letting her know it was in honor of the Richardson endorsement.

I encourage others who can to send her a few bucks and then go to the contact us page to let her know it's in honor of Richardson. The Clinton campaign staffers I'm sure will get a laugh out of it.

Ally,

Look what you can hop in Daisy to go see this summer

http://www.mamma-mia.com/movie.asp?sec=movie

US passports are an odd lot. You get your application from the Post Office, it is processed by the State Department, upon entering the US it is scanned by a Immigration Inspector. The other forms that everyone has to complete, the Customs Declaration Forms (CF-6059). Your travel itinerary is retained by ICE and State.

If Obama gets the nomination and he won't but if he does I will vote for McCain or not vote at all.

Apparently that is the feeling of 1 out of every 5 D, so you won't be alone.

Here's a good one-
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KfRFJSLOFiI

My sister went to this concert at MSG.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h15xIoVwWw&feature=related

A compliation of Statler & Waldorf on the Muppet Show.

So the State Department realized they had a problem with Obama's passport file when a reporter started asking questions?

Who told the reporter?

Like I said on the last post, if it was Hillary's Passport File you would all be screaming and accusing the Obama campaign.

It was a big deal when Bill Clinton's file was accessed and so they now put in place a system to notify those who should have followed up on this to do so.

Since his passport goes back to when he was a youngster it also includes everything about is personal life as well.

It was also said though I don't know if its true but the person in charge of the contract workers on the first two breechs has ties to Bill Clinton who gave her an ambassadorship to Paraguay when he was President.

Since Bill had his records accessed maybe he used this woman Hardy to have people look into Obama's file. After all they are playing by Rove's rules and using scorched earth tactics.

Lets wait and see if this goes back to Bush or Clinton since a Clinton appointee appears to be involved.

Well, Bushco is nothing if not consistent - in its protection of illegal activities by its benefactors.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/20/bush-administration-tryin_n_92667.html

BTW, Fry, nooooooo, not cranberries.

Jamie: I am so excited for Mamma Mia. I saw it on Broadway and loved it (and so did my boys but they would NEVER admit it.)

JennBe: Completely dreamy! Have fun on the 23rd! If he is sick for the Hillary concert that would suck as we are flying in from Iowa.

" "Dreams of My Father" handy? If so, what is the language on page 401?"

Don't have the book, but I'd bet my right arm Obama never said anything of the sort.

All this passport talk made me want to see if mine had my SS# on it and now I can't find it. That will drive me crazy the rest of the day -

Lieberman's voice is like the voice of the actor that played ALF's father. Anyone else ever notice that?

----- it's not a very far drive.

UhOh, Jack...you may have stepped into it. My usually passive daughter would probably go fisticuffs for Elton John.

Jamie...you nailed it! And seems appropriate for the political goings on.

Wendy!, you're welcome, but I wouldn't call one poll a trend - particularly since it is a rapid reversal from the same poll 3 days before. What is interesting about it is that it is Gallup and is almost a mirror of their poll from 4 weeks before, which in their subsequent polls does show HIllary gaining support and Obama losing it, but the rapid swing makes me wonder if it's a sampling issue or an actual trend being reflected.

My point to dog was that the revulsion angle being floated by the Obama campaign is not born out by the polls. And it is looking more and more like Obama's pronouncement that he will get Clinton's supporters if nominated, but she may not get his was simply his arrogance speaking - and was wrong.

Yes, anon paranoid....Bill Clinton was behind the whole thing. He was also seen on the grassy knoll and in Area 51. I know that because I stole Bill's passport records after flying a black helocopter over your house. PS -- aliens are looking for you....

One of the best scenes from a movie ever (Almost Famous.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qn3tel9FWU&feature=related

Sing along!

AP, according to NYT this morning, The Obama campaign is pointing the finger at Bushco, not Clinton's campaign.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/20/state-dept-punishes-aides-for-obama-passport-breach/index.html?hp

If you're going to impugn Clinton, please provide a link to your source. Tracking down ambassadorships isn't all that difficult.

Jamie,
Without him Jesus could not have become Christ via crucifiction and resurection

Well that isn't exactly so. Yes Judas did give up information where Jesus could be found on a particular day. However Jesus' fate was sealed long before he ever enter Jerusalem, the Sunday prior to his execution/crucification. So if Judas hadn't given up Jesus, the Jewish High Priests would have found someone else who would. Let there be no doubt Jesus was marked man.

the anti-clinton people went to court to find out where clinton was and when for every day as first lady for eight years' it was very important for them that she account for every second she was first lady'and cryed foul until it was released'now they want the phone records of every call she made'what 's next her 5th grade report card.

To all the Clinton supports out there this is a SOS.
Your campaign is running out of cash and the debt is rising.
New COO is on board to get the camp on track .
If this attempt at resusitation fails then the next step will be a call to Dr. Jack Kevorkian.

Obama campaign is pointing the finger at Bushco, not Clinton's campaign.

The only thing that could be learned is where he traveled to and what port of entry he returned through. Here is the passport application. You'll find no big secrets here.
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/79955.pdf

Heather, long originally-written posts are fine, didn't mean to scare ya. It is the lengthy copy-and-pastes from other sites that I like to avoid. As a courtesy to other sites we should provide the link and just a few lines of text. And by the way, the scroll-down box only auto generates for an especially long url address so that it does not carry over to the sidebar on the right.

Jamie, fixing the Dexter link in Blogroll now. Thanks.

Any regulars with a blog who would like to be added, email your link to cqtrailmix@verizon.net

Fry,

I had to leave before Chris Matthews' segment with Morrning Joe finished, but in the part I saw, he spoke of his classrooms in Catholic grammar schools, as we called them, then high school and college.

He said he never had an African-American classmate from the time he entered kindergarten right through grad school. The only thing I'd question there is that Chris actually made it through grad school.

Although you say he's from a "black section" of Philly, from my experience that's not terribly far-fetched. I'm a few years older than Chris, but I'm sure our school years over-lapped. In my Catholic grade school, I had one black teammate, who was in 8th grade, when I was in the 7th. To the best of my memory, he and his sister, were the only black students in the school.

In our Catholic high school, I'm guessing we had fewer than a dozen African-American students among a total enrollment of about 500. Of those 12, the 3 that I knew closely, as either teammates or classmates, were not Catholic. That's no big deal, but just reinforces that in the 50's and 60's my Catholic experience was primarily lily white.

I'll admit Troy, NY isn't Philadelphia. I'm just saying it could happen. Also, Chris wasn't saying he hadn't met or seen black people in Philly, just that he didn't get to know anyone the way you'd know a classmate.

not sure why the Comment posting is delayed, folks. hoping it works itself out. if not, i'll see if CQ IT can look into it

a-p

The monitoring system was put into place BECAUSE of prior access to Bill Clinton's passport info. What could anyone garner from that info anyway? More smoke and mirrors to deflect from the "typical white woman" remark. Being in the public eye is a wonderful thing, isn't it?

AP, you conveniently failed to mention that Harty is a career state department employee with a 27 year tenure in the department who joined the state department under Reagan just after her graduation from college and was named to the post of Assistant Secretary over Consular Affairs that she retired from in February by Dumya. If you're gonna look at conspiracies, please look at the most likely sources.

Burrito,

RE: Lieberman

Yes, a guy at work always calls him Willy because of his voice match with that character from Alf.

Harty.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maura_Harty

pogo bin agogo...

Its been on the news that the contractors came from the Consular Corp. The person at the Consular Corp was a appointee of Bill Clinton.

As I said above: Lets wait and see if this goes back to Bush or Clinton since a Clinton appointee appears to be involved.

I'm sure it will be on the news most of today and they may bring the person up again. However, if you really want to know look up the ambassador to Paraguay under Bill Clinton. I believe the last name is Hardy and was mentioned again a couple times already.

Yes Patsi, for all we know right now it could go back to Bill or Bush, but the contractors came out of the Consular Corp and from what has been reported the person in charge of the contractors who were caught ties back to Bill.

But than the Clinton's are saints to you and can do no evil. I bet if they killed kittens in front of you you would deny that they did even if you saw it with your own eyes.

BlondeWino....
Yes your social security number is also in those records as well as a lot of personal information you would not want made public.

There was a lot of speculation about where the photo of Obama in native garb was taken. Many kept saying Kenya, however Williams from the clinton campaign insisted it was Somali. That's what I heard at least. And I believe it was indeed Somali and may have been in Obama's file as well since the State Department keeps records of photos also.

I am another 1 of 5 D who will vote for McCain rather than Obama

Milquetoast

Craig...must be the contract labor reading our posts...they sure are delayed.

Blame the State Dept foulup of Dick Cheney trying to help out his cousin.
After all, he did commend Cuz Barack on his very important speech.
Blame Richardson for disloyality to the Clinton.
Blame John Edwards...... when that endorsement comes.

pogo
Yes I am from WVAbut now live in Fla.
Don't know where you get it that Rockefellar is unopposed, according to the Beckley Post Herald, Fletcher and Hendricks are running against him.
I still think it was a bad move for him to endorse Obama, he can say what he wants about that, that he has not made up his mind but he was on Wva tv endorsing him then sent my family a letter saying that he was uncommitted, so you go figure.
Maybe I just don't get it, if thats true enlighten me.

EdVB

Matthews was not very clear and even when pressed that his education was until graduate school entirely Catholic schools. I think it is entirely believable that someone going to Catholic schools in the fifties and sixties would have an all white experience,.

But if you were attending public schools, the during the same time period.,experience would be different and more integrated. Matthews tried to make the argument that all people his age had the same experience growing up and that is not true.

Here's the link to the Ambassador.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maura_Harty

Now its coming out that Condi Liar says that Hillary's file was accessed in 2007 and she wasn't told either.

However, the person in charge of the contractors so far is still tied to Bill.

Like I said we will have to wait and see who the contractors were tied to. Until then I will with hold judgment but I wouldn't put it past the Clinton's.

FD

Yes, but Judas was the one pointed out at the Last Supper, so again "prophecy/predestination". For that matter if a diety is all knowing, isn't that diety ultimately responsible for all evil as well as all good and then you can toss free will into the mix, but again isn't just creating the choice that can be made sort of a catch 22?

Fry, I agree - it's not the big deal that Obama is making of it - to change the subject from his boneheaded statements this week. Even Joe ain't buying his crap this time.

Now Hillary has been notified that her passport records have been searched.

What it sounds like to me is when the operators in charge of the "non pub" book would look up the telephone numbers for famous people.

Nefarious plots are rarely either nefarious or plots.

Mcw, with regards to this post Posted by: mqw | March 21, 2008 8:36 AM, I am a black guy and I didn't vote for Obama in the TX primary because he was black.

You don't need to vote for him to prove you aren't racist. Stop being so defensive. What they "typical white person" refuses to do is to recognized that black people got screwed over. Affirmative Action was a lame attempt to try to right 350 years worth of shit sandwiches.

If black people whined as much as whites did about "Reverse Discrimination", this country would be a far different place than it is. Some could argue that the anger and fear the white majority is showing when a black person expresses anger at how they were treated is a clear indication that you recognize the wrongs you exacted and are afraid of the deserved retribution.

AP
My basic operating mode for things I don't know that much about is
"never attribute to evil when stupidity will suffice."
Stupidity is the human condition.
Evil needs to be proved

Jack

George

Kevorkian is also running for President. And JMc was in a similar situation for campaign funds...and look where he is now! And finally, all the money BHO has poured into the campaign and he is still is not convincing half of the dems to vote for him...in fact, 20% will vote for JMc if he is the nom. Sure is great to be dem, isn't it!

No big deal or not, it's still BS that some contract employee could access his or anyone else's file for shits and giggles.

Apparently Senator Clinton's passport files have also been breached.

Breaking news: Obama campaign acccuses Clinton
of breaking into her own files.

mathews'' typical white liberal elitist hypocrite'

Here's what I said about Bills file.

Like I said on the last post, if it was Hillary's Passport File you would all be screaming and accusing the Obama campaign.

It was a big deal when Bill Clinton's file was accessed and so they now put in place a system to notify those who should have followed up on this to do so.

Now they are saying all three candidates files were accessed.

So explain to me why they would need McCain's personal file since he is the Republican Nominee. A major investigation needs to be started immediately so we can all know who's behind this.

It is to unbelievable that all of a sudden the State Department is now saying the other candidates files were also breech last year and this year.

Too much of a coincidence.

KGC & EdvB

Chris Matthews looking at his own catholic
education, probably correct that in early 60s no
minority students in catholic schools in Philly.

Here in CT at that time having gone first to catholic
grade school, then both catholic & public high schools,
not until the public high school, was there a mix of
students. The Catholic schools were just starting to
try to integrate their school systems, would think similar
in Philly. Not even sure what Chris Matthews was
trying to establish by his comments this a.m.

Hillary Clinton causes flooding in Midwest.

Hillary Clinton causes the cherry blossoms to not bloom when all the tourists are in DC.

Hillary Clinton caused the Temple Owls to lose.

AP, like I said, post a link. You're throwiing out innuendo without any source to back it up. The ambassador to Paraguay appointed by Clinton in 1997 was Maura Harty. She served for 2 years and was Assistant Secretary over Consular Affairs under Bush. There are a number of hits for Consular Corp. Without more specificity it is impossible to confirm or deny what you're suggesting. Post the source of your innuendo, please.

iodine - I went to the WV Republican party website - they don''t list a candidate for the Senate. I agree with you on the Obama endorsement, but Rockefeller is pretty bulletproof. I'll check the Beckley papers to see what they say. What part of WV, btw (Beckley area, I'mm guessing)? I'm in Clarksburg.

The essence of the Easter Story is the:
Personal agony in the Garden of Gethsemane.
The betrayal by Judas and the denial by Peter.
The crucifixion.
The Resurrection.
We are seeing it played out in this Democrat race.
The beauty of this remarkable ordeal is that the end is very near.
A mighty machinery will be brought down and an underdog insurgency will be risen.
The old ,old story of Easter.

Wendy:

The Richardson endorsement matters because it means he won't be endorsing Clinton (which may have helped her a bit). It also looks like Edwards is going to stay on the sidelines till this thing plays out.

And although the Clintons are masters of the news cycle - nothing has happened yet that will prevent Obama from continuing to win more states, delegates and votes.

(btw, Tapper is in the tank for Clinton)

Obama wants this "race discussion" to take place and it is taking place, but I think that the anger will get into the way, as we have seen on Tv, and on various blogs. What is the answer? Maybe we need to start with some questions.

1. What is the goal of this discussion?
2. Is the goal of the discussion the same for Blacks as it is for non-Blacks?

If you remember the legal case John Edwards mentioned frequently about the little girl injured by the pool drain, then you will be sad to hear that she has passed away while undergoing her latest round of treatment for the complications

http://www.startribune.com/local/16894946.html

So George

Who gets nailed to the cross?

Jack

Just to keep from getting beat up by patsi's daughter
Elton John with the muppets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-36u4xUCF0

EdVB,

I was just commenting on Heather's 8:09 AM post.

On this explains Matthews' claim.
La Salle College High School founded in 1858 is an independent, Catholic, college preparatory school for boys

Not even sure what Chris Matthews was
trying to establish by his comments this a.m.

Posted by: Coreen

Doing what he always does, trying to make himself "everyman." But it is always a stretch. He ends up with these examples completely disproving his point. During 2004, he constantly quoted his brother to bash Kerry implying his brother , a Viet Nam vet had some inside knowledge which is a load of horse pucky. And imo not representative of Viet Nam era veterans in general. It is among the worst kinds of journalism.

Well have to go. Hope everyone has a Happy Easter.

"Or maybe they would come across as some sort of outdated vaudevillian act, like Walter Matthau and George Burns "

That is kinda my opinion. They just keep Lieberman around to make the democratic left howl, probably let him make a seech like they did Zell. BTW where is Zell these days?

Jack

No. 2 most popular story on Yahoo:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080320/cm_thenation/1300860;_ylt=Ap7JxuNKmxEtKnZuagCJmz4DW7oF

No. 1 is about the Richardson endorsement.

Happy days are here again...

And let's see - we had a rough patch during which Obama made a major speech on race - that most people in this country believe was a significant step in the right direction. All things considered...not too shabby.

In other news today the economy's slump continues
to inflict harm on working America. Would think this
would be more important to most americans, but
apparently not to the media.

CNN poll says 30% of Americans say the slowdown is
forcing them to cut back on food, medicine & other daily
neccessities, 31% limiting spending on utilities, and so
it goes.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/20/news/economy/cnn_poll_cutting_back/index.htm

"it's still BS that some contract employee could access his or anyone else's file for shits and giggles"

Yes, and very stupid on the contract employees part. That is why they were fired and their security clearances revoked.
Now they have to go out and find jobs like regular folks.

Jack

Two ex-employees of Sioux Manufacturing Corp. revealed in a 2006 whistle-blower lawsuit that the company had been shorting the quality of the Kevlar in more than 2 million combat helmets sold to the Pentagon during 1994-2006, and in February 2008, Sioux agreed to pay $2 million to settle the dispute. The company did not contest that the Kevlar threading was lighter than the contract required, but the Pentagon said it knew of no troop injuries linked to the substandard threading. In August 2007, however, while the Pentagon was still investigating, the U.S. Air Force nonetheless contracted with Sioux to produce new Kevlar combat helmets. [Air Force Times, 2-18-08]

BlondeWino,
Whatever the outcome in November , the more important issue is the defeating of the attempt to fix the Democrat Nomination race.
The process started with Howard Dean overthrowing Terry McAuliffe as head of the DNC.
The party will be stronger going forward.

Bear

"shits and giggles" ... It's all data entry. If there is a file anywhere, someone with fingers and a keyboard put the information in and can access it for edits.

You can put in safeguards such as notification when some "celebrity" file is accessed which they seem to have had,

As more and more people have access to more and more data on every human being on earth, the whole idea of "privacy" becomes non viable.

You either have to head for the hills, get totally off any grid, find a new identity and lead a subsistance existance or just come to terms with the loss.

Personally, I'm trying for being so stultifyingly boring that no one in their right mind would want to know what I'm doing beyond buying broccoli at Safeway. :-)

(btw, Tapper is in the tank for Clinton)

Posted by: warren | March 21, 2008 12:19 PM

Really got some proof of that. Tapper has posted a number of damaging claims about both Clintons that have turned out to be false. If he is in the "tank" for anyone it is Obama.

Of course live by the sword of the media and die by it.
It has nothing to do with Clinton.

Google top stories are the passport breach, the floods and the lawsuit against the DNC by the Florida Democrats.

Jack
The resurrection element is the Democrat Party free from the negative influence of Bill Clinton.
Al Gore and John Kerry will be very happy indeed.

Warren,

That Yahoo story was discredited yesterday. Posting it again doesn't change the fact that it is still at best half true and 100% slanted.

Dear Craig:
Thank you so much. That makes me feel so much better I was worried I was upsetting you and others but now you have removed that burden, Much appreciated
(((((((Craig))))))
Sincerely,
Heather

all I know is that I have waaaaay too much snow left in my yard this close to April...... yup.... it MUST be Clinton's fault...... (and if you ask which one, I'll tell ya both).....

Clarence Page of the Chicago Tribune.... and a black man (am I a racist for mentioning this?)..... said on this morning's Diane Rehm Show that if Barack Obama becomes the Democratic nominee and then tries to make race an issue in the general election.... it is his opinion that Obama will lose....

and BTW..... the other 2 panelists, Tony Blankley and Ken Walsh, agreed with him.....

PS
--comment correction
In an earlier blog i typed Helen instead of Ellen
releating to Chris Matthews awkward dancing
--Heather

Al Gore? Who's that? It seems like he has gone back into obscurity.

And John Kerry? Mr. Authentic

No wonder people are going crazy over Obama.

"the more important issue is the defeating of the attempt to fix the Democrat Nomination race."

This year is shaping up to another "selected" vs "elected" President. There will be a few formalities, but basically the media decided who they wanted to cover and then who they wanted to destroy.

We will either get McCain because of the 20% of the Dems sitting on their hands and the Independents breaking in his direction, or we will get Obama about whom only about 25% of the population is enthusiastic and another 15% are willing to have.

Our usual 40% happy, 60% unhappy electorate courtesy of the media, the caucus system, and the electoral college.

How long ago was it that the democrats loved Lieberman? Wasn't he going to be Vice President? Yes indeed, the year was 2000.

Well it is extremely depressing watching Richardson endorse Obama, all I need now is an egg in my beer
:-((
Maybe it will balance out, the latest rumor mill in blogs is that Edwards in not far from endorsing Hillary, hope springs eternal
Richardson hasn't been the same since sporting the beard, I always thought he was a bit of a pirate at heart::-))
We will see just how much pull Richardson has with the Hispanic vote. Intersting contrast of Hispanics with no great love for Obama and Richardson trying to win them over.
--Heather

P-squared:

I can tell by the look in his eye! I know a Clintonite when I see one.

Pogo:

The media is finally catching up with us. Politico started to run some calcuations re: the popular vote.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9147.html

KGC,

Thanks, I wanted to stay to hear the whole interview, but I committed to be in a certain place at a certain time. You're right. It's always ridiculous for anyone to try to speak for an entire group of anything.

As Coreen suggested, I was interested to see where he was going with his message. I assumed he was moving toward making a point and derailed himself, when he got testy with MoJo and made the Margaret Mead remark. At that point, I thought he was avoiding trying to speak for the Philly blue collar group. From what you say, he eventually spoke for white guys his age.

For the record, the only things Mr. Matthews and I have in common, is that we're both white males, who went to Catholic schools.

Tony Blankley would agree with any prediction that has the Democrats losing in November.

Once the Democratic party gets united, the enthusiasim shown in the primary - in terms of record turn outs and fund raising - will allow either candidate to be formidable against McCain. Who is still struggling to energize his base.

And many of you have heard about McCain's dilemma - appease the base - lose the Independents. Go after Independents - de-energize his base.

Plus the fact that he is tied to Bush, the War and the Economy - I am feeling pretty good (even though I realize it will be a war with the GOP as it always is).

George..."the party will be stronger" ...throwing out 1/2 of the party makes it weaker by 50%. Who taught you arithmetic? Isn't throwing out the Florida's primary vote fixing the nomination? BHO is the champ of independents and repugs, not the dem party. And we are trying to defeat JMc here, not the Clintons.

"It also looks like Edwards is going to stay on the sidelines till this thing plays out."

He'd be smart to do so...probably means an appointment from somebody....unless the Dems implode.

Bowmanc
Don't talk too soon.
Lieberman may be the next VP.
Republicans can then boast about having two Lazarus.

Oops, I just read Fry's 12:24 post. I guess Chris Matthews have more in common than I thought. We both went to high schools named LaSalle. Hearing that, I'd have to say it's possible that we were educated by Christian Brothers from the same religious order.

I went to a college run by Franciscans. I'm hopeful that Chris can blame some of his failings on Jesuits, or some other order.

Best viral video of the season!

JJ French sent it -- and it's him and a few boys from Twisted Sister: I WANT BARACK!

Go have fun!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgkrX-NSt6Q

I have an appointment...have to run...by the time this posts, I will already be in my car...delayed reality.

The DNC should select Harold Ickes to represent them in the lawsuit filed by the FL Dems and any upcoming action by the MI Dems.

EdvB

Matthews went to college with the Jesuits. You are off the hook. :-)

He is a 1967 graduate of the College of the Holy Cross (not the same as Holy Cross University), and did graduate work in economics at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

Sound familiar:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/Story?id=4491667&page=1

All of the blogs are a war zone. I bet this place is more civil than most.

I am not worried. November is light years away in relative terms. Hell, people only started voting in January.

The Dems will come together - this election is too important not to. And people get that. That is one of the reasons everyone is so passionate.

(I don't see the same type of passion on the GOP side)

pogo...

I get into this later when I get home. I'll see if I can find a youtube of the comment made about Harty or a link for you.

One thing to note though is that Hillary's was breeched during a training session by the Department of State and not since then.

Three different people breeched Obama's and the last breech McCain's was also by the same person.

More later.

Jack -- about Zell Miller. He's a close
friend of a big record producer here in town.
During the 2004 campaign when Zell came
unhinged, the producer was having a birthday gala
and Zell promised to come.

There was another big record producer
who was a Kerry supporter, and had a little plan
cooked up. He brought a John Kerry sticker with
him. The plan was that he would ask for a photo
with Zell, put his arm around him and stick the
patch on his coat. Then another person would
take a close-up and have it on the web within
minutes. I was salivating like Karl Rove with
a picture of Teddy Kennedy in a gay bar.

Unfortunately, Zell's plane was delayed
and so he changed his plans. Damn!

EdVB

I think Tweety was trying to deflect from the clip The Morning Load and Mrs, Load played of him groping Ellen DeGeneres

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2kB182v79Y

Court dismisses Florida primary lawsuit ---AP
Talk about running out of options.

"Interestingly, Richardson’s endorsement will be insignificant in the upcoming States, since there are no large Latino constituencies in any of them, but it will further marginalize White voters who will now have additional proof of Obama’s friendliness with racial politics and also confirmation of their lingering fears that his campaign is now getting populated by ‘bitter minorities’ who wish to somehow punish their “White oppressors”.

Disgustingly, the Democratic Party and their “wonder boy” Obama, have created a racial mess from which many of them won’t be able to survive. Their chances in the general election are getting slimmer by the day.

They have now suddenly drawn a ‘line on the sand’ and forced many (non racist) White voters to start questioning themselves; WHO does Obama represent?

... if Barack Obama wins the Democratic nomination, this election will be about Whites against Minorities, something that NONE of us wanted to experience in our modern political culture, but that it has nonetheless been forced upon the American public by the Mainstream Media and their Liberal elites."

http://savagepolitics.com/

Patsi,

Everything I am hearing has Edwards Endorsing Clinton within the 2 weeks leading up to the North Carolina primary.

There is some resentment in that state over what happened in South Carolina, Edwards doesn't like Obama personally and he would be assured of a cabinet post in a Clinton Administration, probably HUD so he could work directly for his cause of poverty.

When this comes true, I will expect you all to send me $2 and if you don't we can relive some of the better scenes of Better of Dead...lol

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/03/mccainlieberman-the-sunshine-b.html#comment-55913

PLEASE REMEMBER: When you diss Waldorf Muppet I take great offense! (Just kiddin'---I am Waldorf on the old Crawfordslist Muppet-identity theme.)---But in your comparison, no doubt...McCain IS Waldorf! good catch!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sturgee...link to my blog is fixed ... hope you enjoy a fave video I recently posted.

Warren....
of course Tony Blankley would say that...... I threw it in as an aside.....

what do you think about what Clarence Page thinks?.....

and I think it was JennBe who said last night's episode of Lost rocked.....
I agree......

if I understand it right..... we're not getting another new episode until April 24th....... good..... I'm going to Canada the middle of next week for an extra long weekend... when I get back I want to purchase the last season of Lost on Amazon and catch up....

Those who wagered at Ladbrook on Obama winning the Dem nomination can start heading to the cashier window to collect their winnings.
The bookies are smiling.Lots of dough got burned on the chalk.
Hint,hint for the 2008 Derby.
Don't wager on the chalk.

Bear: If Edwards endorses Hillary not only will I be shocked but I will owe my husband $100 bucks. I am not shocked about Richardson after that Meet the Press appearance a couple of weeks ago. He all but endorsed him that day...

I am a DEM for now but if that SANCTIMONIOUS EMPTY SUIT is the nominee, I'm all done.

No one ever asks Obammy for details and, as we all know, the devil is in the details.

Hey George,

I know you meant Ladbrokes and he's getting even money now to Hill's 7/2 and JM 6/4 .
I like the indie getting 100/1

GORDO
You should be very happy.
I hope you followed Buffet and bet against the dollar or Ben Stein and invested in commodities or W/Darth Vador and invested in oil futures.
Financial Times reported that oil futures are over $100 per barrel for deliveries up until Dec 2016.

WARNING, WARNING. This has to do with Easter!!!

In keeping with Easter, I saw this yesterday and thought it interesting. The theme remains constant.

2nd century priest Melito of Sardes:

Trembling for joy cries all creation;
What is this mystery, so great and new?
The Lord has risen from among the dead,
And Death itself He crushed with valiant foot.
Behold the cruel tyrant bound and chained,
And man made free by Him who rose!

4th century Latin hymns of Easter praise sung at the lighting of the Easter candle

This is the Night,
Which throughout the world
Frees all who believe in Christ
From the vices of their time-shackled existence,
From the lightless dungeon of sin,
And restores them to grace: unites them to holiness.

This is the Night
In which Christ broke the chains of death
And rose in radiant victory
From the pit of Hades.

4th century poem/Latin hymn of Saint Ambrosest:

O mystery great and glorious,
That mortal flesh should conquer death,
And all our human pains and wounds
The Lord should heal by bearing them.

Behold how man, though crushed by death,
Now does arise and live with Christ,
While death, repelled and robbed of might,
Dies from its own malignant sting.

warren, we're not really the first to try and noodle the numbers, but I submit that we're among the best. I really don't argue with RCP or Politico's numbers - I do question any analysis of them that excludes FL, although I do think MI is too screwed up to consider. I also consider that the only reasonably recent OR poll I've seen, and there may be more recent ones that I've missed, was in early Feb, showing Clinton ahead by 8 pts, but hell, Edwards was still in the race at that point. And Politico ignores that the recent polls put NC at a dead heat, so I have to question their analysis as having a small case of GIGO.

George your quotes are from Feb
Current statement from Ladbroke
"The race is in turmoil."

You cannot cash losers tickers at the winners window.

RR:

Page makes a valid point (even if overstated). But the thing is - Obama has never based his campaign on race. He has based his campaign on changing the way politics in done in Washington, decreasing the power of the special interests and ending the war in Iraq.

I think he will continue to address racial issues as they come up - but it will not become the central focus of his campaign - no matter how much the media tried to place him in that box. There are too many other things going on for this election to be just about race.

Krauthammer: Obama Fraud Speech

"Krauthammer asserts that Obama “flatters himself as a man of the future transcending the anger of the past as represented by his beloved pastor…

“Then answer this, Senator: If Wright is a man of the past, why would you expose your children to his vitriolic divisiveness?”

The writer concludes: “Why did you give $22,500 just two years ago to a church run by a man of the past who infects the younger generation with precisely the racial attitudes and animus you say you have come unto us to transcend?”

http://newsmax.com/insidecover/Obama_Fraud_Speech/2008/03/21/82158html .

Here's a good one:
Chris Wallace coming to defense of BO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiIK8jh3ZCE

Demfornow:

"No one ever asks Obammy for details"

C'mon buddy. This is so last month. Come up with some new material.

AP if it's Harty you're talking about, there is no dispute that she was the head of the Consular division when 2 of the 3 breaches reported occurred, but as I pointed out, she's got much more to thank Republicans for than she does the big dog. Don't bother with the YouTube clip on my account - I can't access it at work and probably won't at home - I have to drive to Cleveland tonight. And if the only source yo can come up with is a youtube clip.... I'd say consider the source.

Speaking of odds

Here is the latest on the Derby contenders

http://www.horsehats.com/DerbyContenders.html

But the thing is - Obama has never based his campaign on race.

Except when Oprah said, "It's our turn now."
Except when his minister made statements about the Clinton abusing the African American community.
Except when the Obama campaign wrote a memo to
explain how the Clinton's had made racist statements.

IOKYO that's your view of the world

Well, folks, gotta fly to beat the worst of the storm to Cleveland. Have a good weekend.

I gotta say..nothing pisses me off more than equating the Easter story to any kind of political comeback. Just leave Easter alone.

There are many different interpretations of what/who Judas really was/did. Many theologians believe that Jesus himself controlled the situation (i.e. telling them that 'whoever dips his bread in at the same time I do"... and who could control that but Jesus?), others put a traditional betrayer spin on it, and yet others see him in the "Jesus Christ Superstar" mode -- that Judas was really scared by the change in the entire situation -- that Jesus had gone from being a man who spoke the truth to the messianic Son of God. In the end it doesn't really matter. If we are to believe in Resurrection, we have to be able to see it ..really see it..in the faces around us. Resurrection is NOW, not some time in the future. It's in new life, new beginnings.

Resurrection is Love. Period.

I got the Hill-mail today asking for a donation and, I , too
made a contribution because of Richardson's endorsement... I am sure he wants to be the Sanctimonius Empty Suit's VP....

Here's what I gleaned from that Politico/RealClear Politics voting data that Warren linked to upthread:

The vast majority of the "popular vote" has been cast in actual polling places in states with traditional primaries. In these 31 contests (including Florida and Michigan), Hillary actually LEADS in the popular vote as follows:

Clinton--13,621,156
Obama--13,507,440

Obama is way ahead in so-called "popular vote" only in the eight pure caucus states, with a much smaller number of votes, as follows:

Obama--332,779
Clinton--147,735

So I think it's mixing apples and oranges to lump them together -- since as has been well reported here, the voting conditions in caucuses are much different than they are in traditional polling places.

Of course, I've included Florida and Michigan numbers here...which account for more than 600,000 votes in Hillary's direction. So one can argue about that all day.

But the point is, if you're talking about voters who have gone to the polls this year believing they were casting votes for their Democrat candidate...Hillary leads in the popular vote.

Okay my problem now is how any random person can access my personal info. Don't we have security put in place to protect against identity theft and this kind of stuff! Argggghhhh!

Yes Renee, next Lost episode is April 24th, last night's episode left me asking even more questions.

Media involvement again?:)

"Journalists, for instance, have become partners with the Clinton campaign in pretending that the contest is closer than it really is. Most coverage breathlessly portrays the race as a down-to-the-wire sprint between two well-matched candidates, one only slightly better situated than the other to win in August at the national convention in Denver."

Interesting article:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9149.html

Wendy, good idea. I have money taken out each month from my visa for Hillary. But I might send a little more for Richardson.
Fry Daddy, glad to hear that. Has anyone figured out what is going on? I even sent an email to the democratic party regarding my feelings. Makes me feel better, they probably will not even read it.
They are self destructing. McCain will make cut Obama up big time and McCain will win by a landslide, don't they understand that??

If black people whined as much as whites did about "Reverse Discrimination", this country would be a far different place than it is. Some could argue that the anger and fear the white majority is showing when a black person expresses anger at how they were treated is a clear indication that you recognize the wrongs you exacted and are afraid of the deserved retribution.

Posted by: Bear | March 21, 2008 11:59 AM

Bear, I REALLY like you! But I have to disagree. Blacks have not whined about "reverse discrimination"...they've rightly stood up to discrimination in its most ugly forms, but these days more and more people cry "discrimination" for anything said that they can be even slightly perceived as demeaning. It's exaggerated and it's not necessary. We need to try to see each other as people, regardless of ethnicity. It's not easy, but we become better people for it.

Warren,

"C'mon buddy. This is so last month. Come up with some new material."

Nothing has changed this month. He still is not vetted, inspected, or even gets anything other than soft ball questions. As far as the besotted media is considered, their baby will be wrapped in cotton blankies and coddled until the convention.

I bought a new bike yesterday and today we are getting a snow storm. 3-6" of snow expected. I hope they never access my files like they did Obama. They would surely know that all those times I went to Windsor , On. that I was visiting Cheetah's and not just having dinner in Canada like I told the people at the border! By the way , I did not watch Obama's race speech. With the war in Iraq and our sagging economy , I didn't realize that race relations were as of important an issue right now. I was talking to my best friend last night and he said, "I'm voting for the Democrat , I don't care who it is! I just don't want McCain!"

Pogo wrote:

"my current focus is toxic torts. AS to sugar - you're right on IMHO - bad teeth, fat asses"

You know, when I read this I first thought it said "toxic tarts"... LOL... really! Can you give a layman's definition of torts?

Patsi
great story LOL

loved this line
"I was salivating like Karl Rove with
a picture of Teddy Kennedy in a gay bar."

That is not a pretty picture LOL

Jack

Heather said

"My Humble apologies to all"

You didn't offend me, like craig I thought you had pasted in someones article. I almost always check out someones URL when they post it, but in here I tend to scroll through long posts. Mostly because I'm trying to catch up with what is going on.

Jack
who just thought of a bad pun he could insert in the above sentence but will resist.

ET:

Tort - doing something to damage somebody else - either intentionally or negligently. And it must be something that is not governed by a contract.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tort

oh what the hell,

"Mostly because I'm trying to catch up with what is going on."
Not that your post didn't cut the mustard, you know

gdr

Jack

Warren- believe it ot not women have thoughts and can post them too.... how last century of you...

http://www.washingtonindependent.com/view/trouble-at-hud

No matter how good McCain looks remember these people will be part of any republican administration.
Sweep them out clean house.

Jack

"No matter how good McCain looks"

Don't care. No Hillary on the ballot, no vote for anyone else. If all the women who feel they have been totally disrespected by the conduct of the media and the Democratic party sit this one out, it isn't going to be pretty.

More about race - than the race:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/21/roland.martin/index.html

It is funny. People say that people don't want to talk about race. But those same people assume we want to hear minute-by-minute analysis of a Democratic race that has been going on for months.

Now there are plenty of times that I DO want to hear absolutely everything there is to say about Obama vs. Clinton. But I think I would appreciate - an intelligent conversation about race - that has more to do with America rather than how race will impact the Democratic race - every once and awhile...

No matter how good McCain looks to you, remember these two words...

SUPREME COURT!

Friends don't let friends vote Republican!

Beethoven: Christ on the Mount Of Olives
Rilling | Bach- Collegium Stuttgart

http://www.mediafire.com/?d2dtwxjv2gm

iknow...

What are you talking about? It this about "buddy?"

If so - why can't I refer to a female as "buddy?"

Lucy is a girl - and she is my buddy...

http://www.mycockerspaniel.com/past_contests/sep06.htm

Why do you keep calling for Hillary to quit? We have primaries scheduled until June!! What are you afraid of? Let us vote! If he is assured the nom,why are you still trying to convince everyone.Keep GOING Hillary!!

Warren, why only pics of the dogs? Are you afraid to show your face? :-) That goes for the rest of you. I'd love to see faces of the many posters here. Mine are at my blogspot or at http://www.myspace.com/eurotom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06-vs98dAoc

one of my faves

Mayor Joe
I'm looking for a big payout.
I'm betting on Al Gore . At odds of 50/1, I stand to reap a windfall of Cheneyian proportion.

"When this comes true, I will expect you all to send me $2 and if you don't we can relive some of the better scenes of Better of Dead...lol"

RPFL, Bear! a good movie!

Easter rabbit pellets for MSM, for not reporting more honestly on HRC's loooong long odds of attaining nomination. [Albeit, Obama's lead -- while potentially insurmountable, is relatively narrow.]

Today's Politico story, "The Clinton Myth". (Rezdog already linked to this, but pertinent parts follow):
= = = =

One big fact has largely been lost in the recent coverage of the Democratic presidential race: Hillary Rodham Clinton has virtually no chance of winning.

... That means the only way she wins is if Democratic superdelegates are ready to risk a backlash of historic proportions ... One important Clinton adviser estimated to Politico privately that she has no more than a 10 percent chance of winning her race against Barack Obama, an appraisal that was echoed by other operatives.

In other words: The notion of the Democratic contest being a dramatic cliffhanger is a game of make-believe.

... “All she has left is the electability argument,” a Democratic official said. "It’s all wrapped around: Is there something that makes him ultimately unelectable?”

... Her advisers say privately that the nominee will be clear by the end of June. At the same time, they recognize that the nominee probably is clear already.

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=D1491726-3048-5C12-0099B6F95FDE6303

Politico reports that HRC's only hope is a major Obama flameout, something that takes him out of the race entirely, not even merely lesser victory margins.

Also that 60% wins if both Florida and Michigan held revotes -- not a likely scenario -- might give her a 20-delegate lead over Obama, if all other ducks lined up in a row before.

I don't think a real patriot would bet everything on a Hail Mary scenario. Isn't that what our incumbent president is always asking us to do?

Gayle, Jamie, Blondie et al.

People are not calling for HRC to leave because we think she will be "pummeled," or because a "knock out blow" is inevitable. It is quite the opposite.

This is a close race. Clinton has loyal supporters and so does Obama. And it looks like this thing will end - in a similar fashion to how it has gone so far. HRC winning in states good for her and Obama winning in states good for him. But at the end of the day - Obama will have won more states, delegates and likely more votes.

And no matter how much the candidates tear each other apart and drag each other through the mud - not much of that is going to change.

I just think the sooner we start focusing on coming together against the GOP - the better.

Don't forget - the GOP also has primaries scheduled through June. That does not mean the fight has to last that long...

(but I am glad it has been a tough race. I think both candidates are tougher as a result. Also, I am happy this J. Wright issue came out in March - rather than October...)

So more people have voted in total for Hillary in this Democratic process and still Obama is being viewed as the winner? What rot ! Same crap that happened to Al Gore in 2000. Just adds to Obama's illegitimacy !!

"Journalists, for instance, have become partners with the Clinton campaign in pretending that the contest is closer than it really is."

What a joke.

EuroTom:

Because I want to be judged on the basis of my posts - not my devestatingly good looks!!!

(Hah! just kidding folks..)

Posted by: dog hussein dog | March 21, 2008 3:43 PM

The 5th time this has been posted.

Respondin to two posts:

"Hillary should quit because it is virtually impossible for her to win and her scorched earth campaigning is hurting the party. "

and

"I don't think a real patriot would bet everything on a Hail Mary scenario."

This kind of undeomocratic shit makes me sick to my stomach. Yeah, lady -- get out of the way. Didn't you know that you don't have the right to compete. REAL ladies would apologize.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/03/mccainlieberman-the-sunshine-b.html#comment-56143

repost of response to the Politico story upthread

Warren,

I simply will not back someone that I feel is unqualified to be President of the United States. I don't care what party they are in. Therefor I will not vote for either McCain or Obama. Whether Clinton drops out or not is no never mind to me. She will be my write in vote as being the person acceptable to me to lead the country.

Nothing but a bunch of lousy losers who want to call the game before it over.

Wendy...thanks for the idea of the contribution on behalf of Richardson to HRC's campaign.

And that flame out might be sooner than you think.

A theme song for the Hillary supporters

Simon & Garfunkel - Keep the customer satisfied
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx6_0Do0qGQ

It's the same old story, everywhere I go, I get slandered liabled I hear words I never read in no bible...................

Patsi, enough. Not everything is a sexist statement. It's a disservice to everybody when you jump to that conclusion constantly. You need to think with your head more.

RePeter (Rabbit): oh. 5th time Politico story was posted? Sorry. Only scanned comments today.

EuroTom's comment: "So more people have voted in total for Hillary in this Democratic process and still Obama is being viewed as the winner? What rot ! Same crap that happened to Al Gore in 2000. Just adds to Obama's illegitimacy !!"

Tom: did you take the popular vote number from Lardass's post earlier today? Because if so, he added 600,000 HRC votes into her total, giving her popular vote lead. That lead does not exist in real life. Hillary will never get those votes in total since they come from nonbinding primaries which were understood to be nonbinding when votes were cast.

(Also, not sure if this is still the case, but Wisconsin and a few other states had not put their actual vote totals up last time I checked. Real Clear Politics site -- which Lardass consulted for vote totals -- may have been updated by now...)

Here's Lardass post excerpt:

The vast majority of the "popular vote" has been cast in actual polling places in states with traditional primaries. In these 31 contests (including Florida and Michigan), Hillary actually LEADS in the popular vote as follows:

Clinton--13,621,156
Obama--13,507,440

...
Of course, I've included Florida and Michigan numbers here...which account for more than 600,000 votes in Hillary's direction. So one can argue about that all day.

Jamie, did you get any significant data back on your mentoring question?

From the Obama fanatics

Hit the road Jack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Tiz6INF7I

Jamie:

I just hope that come November - even if you still don't believe Obama is qualified - you will at least determine that he is better for this country than John McCain.

(and based on your posts - I don't think my "hope" is completely unwarranted....)

Blonde wino
I'm not calling for the "former" presumptive nominee ( prior to Iowa) to quit the race neither do I expect her to do so.
As Joan Walsh opined , may be , just maybe we will hear from her an "Obamanlike" speech with respect to her Iraq war vote.
This could change the dynamics of the race..
This may be wishful thinking on my part.
I may be the one hoping for a miracle.....
Her fellow Arkansasian has taught us that miracles don't alway come through.

This passport hysteria is out of hand.

The information in the passport file is insignificant compared with what is at the IRS, local government tax offices, health insurers, and income tax preparers many of whom are in India and, I suspect, Pakistan.

And, of course, we have all those credit bureaus, the phone companies, public utilities, your brokers and your kids school.

Figure it out. The hysteria is politically generated smoke intended to blind us about the real issues surrounding one candidate in particular.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/pa/pennsylvania_democratic_primary-240.html

I was out looking for Easter Eggs and look what I found. Why would Clinton get out when the margins of her victories are increasing in the upcoming primary states. Obama is having trouble holding on to even North Carolina.

Flatus

Senior moment... what mentoring question?

"even if you still don't believe Obama is qualified "

Warren it is very very difficult to get me PO'd, but once you do it is even harder to get me out of that state. Obama has a long way to go before I get over my mad left over from the Washington Caucus. Unfortunately, he just keeps compounding the condition.

To George and Warren...John King of CNN just had a great line..."why quit the Indy 500 at 485 miles?"

I find it odd that so many want Hillary to drop out when BO is so wounded and his chances in the GE are growing weaker with every news cycle. They want Hillary to act for a greater good so as to please those who hate her with equal passion that they worship BO. Sounds sensible. BO close association with his pastor's hate speech and by extension Farrakhan, make him unacceptable to me. Hello McC.

Milquetoast

Dog
both Florida and Michigan voted.
votes are votes
If the party wants to disenfranchise the voters of both states then the party gets what it deserves.

At this point neither candidate can get enough delegates from state primaries/caucus to win.

It is going to be up to the so called super delegates to make the call. This is where Obama's playing the race card and hugging Ted Kennedy is going to hurt him. Then you add the Reverend Wright baggage and I wouldn't be suprised if the rest of the superDs votes go to HRC.
They have to get elected out in these states and if you look at the Missouri poll numbers they are very very ugly. Any candidate has to be competetive in states like Missouri.

The Obama campaign has collapsed this week and they don't have a clue as to how they will get out of this mess they're in.
How big a mess are they in?
No Obama supporter on this web site has given a good defense of Obama and Wright.
The best defense I've seen has come from Jamie, a non supporter.
Obama has lost his independent vote this week, he has lost his good will among the suburban moderates and if this blog is any example his liberal supporters are uncertain.

He may pull this election out but he will be severly crippled and he only has himself to blame.

Jack

Blondie:

Because there is not a bigger more important race - that starts immediately after the Indy 500....

Lo siento Jamie...don't go postal on me ; )

I was wondering where all the angry white women congregated on the net. Now I know, they are here.

Posted by: RichardsonFan | March 21, 2008 4:56 PM

You are embarassing me with your inane comments
Please join another fan club if this is your idea of commentary.

LOL

the pet troll is back
must be lonely over in Obamaville

LOL

Jack

Dog...re my post on popular vote totals. That's just a quick tally based on data compiled by RealClearPolitics. So state-by-state, it would come with whatever caveats they attach to the numbers.

The main point is just an effort at parsing what is meant by "popular vote." I hear folks on TV just casually toss off these factoids, as if they were undisputed, hard numbers that everyone agrees on. And in all of RealClear's scenarios, they include the caucus states...which add nearly 200,000 to Obama's margin. Why would you do that -- a "vote" at a caucus is an entirely different thing than a vote in a precinct voting booth.

The secondary point is that you can apply various interpretations to the numbers to spin them either for Obama or Clinton...which both sides will no doubt do.

The bottom line is that the definition of "popular vote" will never be nailed down, because there is no procedural reason to do so. Popular voters don't need to be certified or seated at a convention. So it's all about spin. And in the land of spin, Florida votes and even Michigan votes will count just as much as, say, Illinois votes....or votes in small, caucus states...even if Florida or Michigan delegates cannot be seated.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/03/mccainlieberman-the-sunshine-b.html#comment-56143

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJYUSdX-Rps

Here's why, Mr. RichardsonFanboy --
"He pinches my neck. He touches my hip, my thigh, sort of the side of my leg."

He's an overweight, whipsmart, popular and charismatic Democratic governor from a Southern State who is running for president-- and is dogged by rumors of sexual misconduct. Bill Clinton redux? Nope. It's New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson who was named last week by New York Times op-ed columnist David Brooks as "the candidate most likely to rise."

Rise indeed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-katovsky/the-touchyfeely-democrat_b_42972.html

Jamie, it may be me with the lost marbles. But, I _thought_ you had considered making some inquiries through academic types you knew asking about Mr Obama's mentoring, etc., of his students.

Actually, Warren...you need to brush up on your racing facts. NASCAR's big World 600 race in Charlotte is the same weekend as the Indianapolis 500...and Tony Stewart has run in both races a couple times.

Jamie my Dear

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY45DkaP9Ls

I miss you

Barry

Blondie
I want Hillary to lose fair and square.
She has retooled the campaign machinery, bringing in a new COO and pollster.
This suggests she intends to go the distance.
I know that to you and many women she embodies Andraste.
The Democrat party values all the pillars of the coalition.
As Lord Herward puts it ,"it is not merely of some importance but is of fundamental importance that justice should not only be done, but should manifestly and undoubtedly be seen to be done".
We are Democrats , not Republicans

Here's one for you "can't have Clinton, take McCain" lovers:

"Reverend Rod Parsley of the World Harvest Church of Columbus, Ohio -- whom Sen. John McCain hails as a spiritual adviser -- has suggested on several occasions that the U.S. government was complicit in facilitating black genocide."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/21/mccain-spiritual-guide-ac_n_92757.html

LL:

Does he use the same car?

Flatus,

Okay I'm with you now. No what I was going to do was try some web research to see if I could turn up any former students speaking of any assistance or mentoring given to them by Sen. Obama.

I made two runs at it with different search terms and I'll give it another go, but I find it astounding that so far I haven't been able to turn up even one endorsement by a former student.

Flatus

Just as a follow up, I check ALL of the endorsements on Obama's campaign and Wiki pages. There is not one single former student. There are some academics but nothing from people he supposedly taught Consitutional Law. It just seems really, really strange. Were most of his classes handled by teaching assistants?

Flatus,

You'll love this one. I found one former student. He just happens to be running for office (mutual endorsements?)

http://danmalloy.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/obamaendorsement-00481294.pdf

George...you say it in "I want Hillary to lose fair and square." The dems in Florida and Michigan are being cheated, so much for fair and square by the dem party.

warren,

Lucy is very cute. Maybe you should adopt a another little rescue to keep her company while you are at work.

Even the folks who still like him don't want to play with him. Now that's what you get for being the playground bully.

Warren...no...the car he uses at Indy would be an IRL open-wheel style race car. At Charlotte, it would be a NASCAR stock car. And the Charlotte race probably is actually more important these days than the Indy race, since NASCAR is by far the most popular series in autoracing.

But I get your point. Someone should just tell John King that one stupid metaphor deserves another. :)

Oh. I forgot to add one last thing about "The Abusive Couplet" form of posting.

It adds nothing to the debate, and is often simply a substitute for having nothing original, significant or intelligent to say about the subject being discussed.

LL and Warren

Both campaigns use different "cars" in each campaign.

McCain - Lieberman the ticket made in hell. They would indeed be a vaudevillian act.

The bi-partisan change doesn't even begin to touch the Dem change with either a woman or an African-American man.

With McCain-Lieberman all I see is ANOTHER pair of more then, middle aged, white men trying to run the world.

tt

A good read

Obama's church pushes controversial doctrines

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html

Jack

Jamie, I did some searching, too. Only found one and he appeared to be a young fella who wanted to cut his lobbying spurs on Mr Obama's campaign.

Blondie
The polical manuevering by the Clinton camp on Fl & MI brings back paining memories of GWB trying to link the Iraq war with Alqaeda.
In the fullnes of time the FL and MI issues will be resolved.
The Obama camp have pledged to abide by the verdict of the DNC, is the selected referee in this contest.

Am I right, or am I right?
Posted by: LardassLiberal | March 21, 2008 5:46 PM

My God LL, you are totally SPOT on....

McBush is in Paris. Do you think he is confused and thinks there are peace talks going on there?
Cindy doesn't appear to be on this trip so it looks like Lieberman is the campaign walker.

Warren
Adopting an adult dog with problems takes a lot of courage. Kudos to you and it looks like it has paid off.

Tylenol
Hope all is well.

I liked Whsky Jack's 4:52 post and Lardass Liberals math.

Politico is the high rent version of Drudge (funded with rightwing money. and interested in tabloid stories)
Now Obama supporters are complaining about Morning Load should have thought about that when
he and Mika were lauded for their keen analysis about Obama.

Go Democrats!

The Obama camp have pledged to abide by the verdict of the DNC, is the selected referee in this contest.

Posted by: George | March 21, 2008 6:14 PM

Not so fast. What happened to win fair and square
The DNC process is weighted to Obama because Florida and Michigan are left out.

Obama said the same thing about the revotes but then
worked against a solution.

But then the candidate who will do anything to win usually does.

Katherine
The DNC rules were set by McAuliffe , Ickes etal... all prominent players in the Clinton camp.
Are you now suggesting that they skewed the processes to give Obama the advantage?
I now believe GWB's rationale for going to war with Iraq!

Flatus

"young fella who wanted to cut his lobbying spurs"

This is the sort of thing that makes me suspicious. Here he is supposedly the leader of the "youth movement" and bringing a "new generation" into the party, but the people who knew him best when they were at university aren't saying anything nice about him? What gives?

Joe & Mac look like they're discussing the nice piece of fish they had at Luby's.

Happy Holidays!
gobble-gobble

"The DNC rules were set by McAuliffe , Ickes etal... all prominent players in the Clinton camp."

Not quite right. The rules were set by the current members of the DNC. The members of the credentials committee have yet to be selected so the
claim of the Clinton crowd rings a little hollow.

I am interested in your version of how the credentials committee is selected.

The short version is there will be more Obama people on the credential committee. Basically people elected little tiny numbers of people will be deciding whether the lots of voters in giganormous states will count.

How many states can Obama afford to write off for the general?

"Patsi, enough."

So...let me get this straight. She doesn't have the right to run in this campaign, and I don't have the right to post. Welcome to the world of hope and change.

King George and King Richard are attempting to perpetuate their rule through "Saint" John.
King William wants to continue his rule through Queen Hillary. He said a vote for Hillary is a vote for me!
The very idea of asking Americans to circumvent the principle of Presidential term limits speaks to the contempt with which "the establishment" views not only their party members but the wider public.
In a population of approximately 300 million, leadership capacity exist only in three families.
Did I hear someone say the "Putin/Medvedev " playbook?
The Republicans have quietly accepted their establishment edict.
At least the grassroot of the democrat party are challenging their party establishment!

Jamie, you may have been close to the truth when you wondered if much of the contact work in his classes was done by TAs.

Thinking back to my undergrad business law classes, the teaching was done by an adjunct professor from a downtown law firm. He was a nice fellow, but not a teacher by training. Although he enjoyed what he was doing, I think is primary motivation was generating goodwill for the firm where he was trying to become a partner.

In my executive MBA classes, our professor was a very competent local attorney/CPA who made it clear that he was taking clients for his wealth/asset management practice. Despite his ulterior motives he was an excellent tenured professor.

Both of the people were thoroughly nice guys. But I don't think either would have been interested in a mentoring relationship with their students--it wasn't why they were there.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/773/fewer-voters-identify-as-republicans

Just released Pew poll on how voters identify themselves. Not such good news for the Republicans.
But not as bad as I would have guessed. In spite of their best efforts, they did managed to nominate their strongest candidate.

To those of you who think the DNC is favoring Obama, do remember that they made their rules about Michigan and Florida when she was the frontrunner and presumptive nominee. She thought she had the race so far in hand that she didn't care about what would happen with those 2 states...she frankly didn't think she needed to worry.

Whether you are Hillary Clinton, the New England Patriots, the you should know by now that if you think you have it won before you even set foot on the playing field, you will get beat.The Duke Blue Devils and UCONN Huskies allowed upstart teams to hang around when they should have normally been able to blow those teams out, one barely won, the other lost.

Quit faulting Obama for being a better candidate than Hillary. It's not his fault.

The more I read everyone's opinions the more I believe an interracial dating model fits whether you are an Obama or Clinton supporter...the more I think about it the more surprised how right I am...

George

"In a population of approximately 300 million,"

If that is the case you would think they could have come up with someone better than an almost professional ladder climber.

My gut instinct tells me that sometime after Sen. McCain returns from his trip overseas Mayor Bloomberg may have meeting with the Governator, in California sometime just before or just after the RNC convention look for possible major announcement from McCain campaign...not sure about this only time will tell if I am correct or not.

As for my teams in "March Madness" I am going with two teams of course one is my alma mater "Fighting Irish" yayyyyyy! The other UCLA . A little irony here ok, ok so we don't have Digger Phelps, however we are 25-7 and the irony is that 1974 Notre Dame with Digger Phelps broke top ranked UCLA's 88 game winning streak, somewhere a half a country away was a little future Irish colleen nursing on a bottle as kismet would have it, would wind up going to the very same university that broke the streak :-))

--Heather
--Heather

Flatus

"But I don't think either would have been interested in a mentoring relationship with their students--it wasn't why they were there."

So this is another example of using people and situations to create an image for future success not to actually participate in the lives of others.

It's sort of like what they said about the missionaries to the Hawaiians:

The came to do good and they did right well.

"The more I read everyone's opinions the more I believe an interracial dating model fits whether you are an Obama or Clinton supporter...the more I think about it the more surprised how right I am..."

ROFL....Bear -- that would only work if Obama was a black man.

http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=529&Itemid=1

Burrito:

Unfortunately (for me), Miss Lucy may be hopping as soon as April 2 - to go live with my ex-girlfriend in Sydney. It is going to be rough on me... : (

But she will be reunited with her mom - who actually rescued her. I can't take credit for that - those two are soul mates!!

Anyways, I hope one day to see Lucy again - and I know she'll love Oz.

(I don't really like to talk about it though...)

Hillary Supporters - Pat B. is the biggest HRC advocate on MSNBC (that should tell you something...).

That guy may be cold-hearted - but he is smart.

"interracial dating model fits "

I must have missed the earlier explanation. But I assume it has to do with level of acceptance and experience.

Bear, please explain what this is. I'm just a naive old white guy, although my Asian wife and I have been together more than 40-years I have no idea what you're talking about: "The more I read everyone's opinions the more I believe an interracial dating model fits whether you are an Obama or Clinton supporter...the more I think about it the more surprised how right I am..."

This is the most messed up primary ever. This is exactly why people turn away from politics and involvement. I can only shake my head and listen. I am trying to find some logic but what I am seeing doesn't fall into place with anything familiar.

Obama says he wants to open up the conversation about race: okay then do it ! Obama puts it out there - then does nothing. Shouldn't he have followed up that speech with some sort of action? He just wants the credit without any of the fall out. He opened the can.

Jamie:

Thanks for making me look for this. This is a ringing endorsement.

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/news/law-students-gave-Obama121807/index.html

Warren: possibly mercenary post, but I know two lovely little beagles from VA who need a home. They are the well cared for pets of a very kind older couple. He has Alzheimer's , though, and she must go into assisted living. Beagles are a male and female, 5 and 6 years old respectively and well trained and cute.

Beagles are in No. VA; trying to find a home for them here but would like to keep them together with a great new owner wherever.

Beagles are bipartisan, although suspect the guy beagle might be a Ron Paul fan.

To finish the earlier post, Warren: these little beagles would love to accompany you on walks in the Big Apple and would love to meet Lucy too. They are also down with sleeping around the house while you are working on professional reading and writing briefs.

Let me know if you are interested.

Truly bummed Lucy is Australia-bound, though. Sounds like you two have a good life together.

Interracial relationships. Let's see. One great example might be Charlie Parker and his wife Chan. Since it's a Friday nite, here's a song that always makes me think of them. Couldn't find the Bird original, so this cover will have to do:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7imdtkRurk

warren,
sorry.. that is really.. really sad. . . but you know......there's another "lucy-like" out there that would love to be your buddy.

I wont bring it up ever again.

Burrito,

Whole comedy routines have been built around the "first person removed" remark such as the steward on a plane:

"I would like to welcome you to Go Nowhere Air" (but maybe I won't)

Instead of "Welcome to Go Nowhere Air

It is a way of saying you are doing something without actually doing anything. Sen Obama would like to open the conversation about race ...

One of these days, he might actually get around to doing it.

Richardson is a smart guy but he has a Spitzer problem. I knew his girlfriend. She was on his House staff in in the late 1980s. She was content to be his mistress until he also began to see another woman. That's when MK put her foot down. She told me, "It's one thing to have a mistress, but it's really low to cheat on your mistress." MK decided to leave DC and go to NY where she married money. She was quite blatant about it. Before she left, she made Bill throw her a big farewell party in the Capitol, funded by lobbyists (great contacts with the Energy and Commerce Committee), with premium booze and elegant catering. MK was a bit tipsy and telling everyone how she wasn't marrying for love, but for money. She confided she would still help Bill with a few projects. Shortly after, Bill gets appointed as UN Ambassador and heads up to NY, where he hooked up with MK again. When he was appointed Sec of Energy, and convinced MK to come back to DC with him -- and he got her on at DOE. I think she finally broke it off with him when he went back to NM.

Warren...before using words such as "technique" to describe basic, 3rd grade level playground bullying, you should read up on how truly professional assholes do business during debate. Most of us on this blog are weekend hackers...and compared to us this guy is Tiger Woods.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrasymachus

Warren, why should the most liked teacher be considered the best teacher?

In my experience, the most intellectually demanding ones were the best ones.

But, then, I was there to get an education.

Warren

Thank you for that link. Those are excellent recommendations though it looks as if the file might have been cleaned up some (he wouldn't be the first politician to scrub some of the rough edges)

"The student evaluations of Obama that remain at the school library (some are missing) are overwhelmingly positive. A reporter was unable to find the four students who said they would not recommend Obama's class to another student."

Oh, and I got the impression from his description of his background, that he was regular member of the faculty, not a part-timer.

Makes no difference whether everyone would have loved having him on the regular faculty, in fact he wasn't.

I suppose that's excusable puffing. But, words count.

No worries burrito. And I agree. That have been plenty of good dogs in my life and there will be plenty more. And I think I will see Lucy again.

(the toughest thing is that you can't talk to a dog over the phone - although Lucy does sing : )

Warren, I'm really sorry about your impending separation from Lucy.

Thanks dog. But I got some travelling to do before I grow some roots and get a dog.

(But I am sure I will find some dogs to hang out with along the way)

Plus, Ron Paul is a little too kooky for my taste.

LL:

Thanks. I am a bigger fan of Aristophanes - who was mentioned there:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristophanes

I don't like sophists much. There are too many of them in my line of work.

(I suspect some the better ones go on to Washington to spin and spin - kinda like Lanny Davis).

Divalish...just read your post about Richardson's brokenhearted mistress. What a sad story...typically DC...but also so sad because real human beings "real-time" lives are involved. It only takes we dumbass commentors 10 seconds to read your post, and get a vicarious thrill or a giggle out of it. But for the people involved (ie., MK) the sad story chewed up an entire decade of life that could have been spent otherwise.
That's why powerful people who blithely screw with other people's lives are the worst kind of pigs. And conversely, why people who allow themselves to be victimized by powerful people are the worst kind of "victims", if there is such a thing.

Flatus:

Law school can be a dark place - and it seems like Obama gave his students a much-needed lift.

And one of the most-liked teachers at my law school was also one of the most intellectually demanding (and he also had a sharp sense of humor - and didn't let people get away with the normal law school tricks).

The point is that being well-liked to not mutually exclusive to also being demanding.

Univ. of Chi is also a top-notch school - both in terms of students and faculty.

Wendy, Patsi, etc.:

I think the reason people are acting this way - storming off or protesting what they believe to be unfair attacks - is a sign that people are starting to like the idea of Obama being President - and they don't want to give it up - which is a GOOD sign for the general.

That is why you see him with strong support all over the place - votes, money, endorsements, pop culture, etc. (we are not near the ceiling yet either).

And supporters in the media are a tremendous asset. (they essentially work for the campaign - but have an air of objectivety to the untrained eye).

You make think Chris Matthews is a jack-ass - but he is a great advocate with good ratings - especially to so called downscale Democrats (I hate that term but I sure as hell am not about to start bandying around the term Re***n Dems). McCain got the nomination by saying he was a foot soldier for Reagan.

(And do you think there will be anyone pleading Hillary's case on Fox News after the primary?)

Jamie:

Obama is not resonsible for all of the things said or done by his over-zealous supporters - whether those things are alleged or repeated time and time again on the news. Same rule applies to Clinton and McCain.

Lardwrote: ".just read your post about Richardson's brokenhearted mistress. What a sad story...typically DC...but also so sad because real human beings "real-time" lives are involved."

I think it's also typical of many very famous or powerful people. Certainly here in MusicCity. The following lyrics were written by a friend of mine, and was a top ten song titled "She Thinks That She'll Marry" -- written about a situation involving a famous country singer:

He keeps her in diamonds, he brightens her days.
He flies her, in style, to the cities he plays.
But she's not aware that in every town,
Others warm to his favours when she's not around.

He took her to Paris, he took her to Spain.
He took her for granted: wouldn't give her his name.
She lives all alone in a house on a hill.
An' thinks that she'll marry, but she never will.

And Jamie - if everything was so scrubbed - why would the Univ. of Chi Law School include that quote you posted.

It could have easily been left out.

Anyways, there was plenty of good stuff in there and that article makes me like Obama even more (bet you all didn't think THAT was possible ; )

I think I am going to start sending it around.

Time to feed Lucy (and me). Sorry for the typos - leave you people alone for awhile and there is a lot to clean up after. It looked like a rowdy bunch of sailors and hookers had been hanging out in here having a "card game."

Jamie:

I need to amend the rule. There is as exception to former Presidents - Bill cannot be written off as some over-zealous knuck-head.

(never trust a lawyer - there are always exceptions ; )

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080322/ap_on_el_pr/obama_patriotism

Notice how the Clinton campaign starts to attack the messenger - instead of addressing the criticism.

(and of course BO, HRC and Bill are all lawyers - good ones too)

(and of course I was kidding about lawyers - the truth is that you need to find a lawyer you can trust)

This time I am really out of here - at least for a little while.

i think there has been a fundamental sea change with middle class working people's opinion of obama' the mainstream media has'nt picked up on this yet' of course its kinda hard for them to see past the cameras'bright lights and thier own over inflated egos'
the next round of nationwide polling will start to show clinton ahead by a wider margin.

Reading the MK story reminded me of a lady who wasn't quite so agreeable:

Leave you? Leave you?
How could I leave you?
How could I go it alone?
Could I wave the years away
With a quick goodbye?
How do you wipe tears away
When your eyes are dry?

Sweetheart, lover,
Could I recover,
Give up the joys I have known?
Not to fetch your pills again
Every day at five,
Not to give those dinners for ten
Elderly men
From the U.N.--
How could I survive?

Could I leave you
And your shelves of the World's Best Books
And the evenings of martyred looks,
Cryptic sighs,
Sullen glares from those injured eyes?
Leave the quips with a sting, jokes with a sneer,
Passionless lovemaking once a year?
Leave the lies ill-concealed
And the wounds never healed
And the games not worth winning
And-wait, I'm just beginning!

What, leave you, leave you,
How could I leave you?
What would I do on my own?
Putting thoughts of you aside
In the south of France,
Would I think of suicide?
Darling, shall we dance?
Could I live through the pain
On a terrace in Spain?
Would it pass? It would pass.
Could I bury my rage
With a boy half your age
In the grass? Bet your ass.
But I've done that already--or didn't you know, love?
Tell me, how could I leave when I left long ago, love?

Could I leave you?
No, the point is, could you leave me?
Well, I guess you could leave me the house,
Leave me the flat,
Leave me the Braques and Chagalls and all that.
You could leave me the stocks for sentiment's sake
And ninety percent of the money you make.
And the rugs
And the cooks--
Darling, you keep the drugs.
Angel, you keep the books,
Honey, I'll take the grand,
Sugar you keep the spinet
And all of our friends and--
Just wait a goddam minute!

Oh, leave you? Leave you?
How could I leave you?
Sweetheart, I have to confess:
Could I leave you?
Yes.
Will I leave you?
Will I leave you?
Guess!

Warren - just wanted to say that I'm sorry to hear Lucy might be leaving you. As an avid dog lover I know how difficult that can be.

To everyone on the board saying Hillary should drop out of the race:

It's like Deja Vu All Over Again!

Usually happens when those Obama folks are worried they're going to lose.

;-)

At Americablog today, John Aravosis posed this question as the topic of his piece "Did Hillary sit next to Rev. Wright at prayer breakfast"?
It's about that now infamous atonement breakfast in 1998.
There is the photo of King William enbracing Rev. Wright and there is another with Hillary seated at table 14 with someone resembling Rev. Wright.
To accept the Clinton argument it was arandom gathering.
Rev Wright certainly go a prominent seat.it must be his luck of the draw.
What say all you Clinton supporters?

Mark Halperin's take from today's "The Page" in Times Magazine: Painful Things Hillary Clinton Knows — Or Should Know
1.She can’t win the nomination without overturning the will of the elected delegates, which will alienate many Democrats.

2. She can’t win the nomination without a bloody convention battle — after which, even if she won, history and many Democrats would cast her as a villain.

3. Catching up in the popular vote is not out of the question — but without re-votes in Florida and Michigan it will be almost as impossible as catching up in elected delegates.

4. Nancy Pelosi and other leading members of Congress don’t think she can win and want her to give up. Same with superdelegate-to-the-stars Donna Brazile.

5. Obama’s skilled, close-knit staff can do things like silently kill re-votes in Florida and Michigan and not pay a political price.

6. Many of her supporters — and even some of her staffers — would be relieved (and even delighted) if she quit the race; none of his supporters or staff feel that way. Some think she just might throw in the towel in June if it appears efforts to fight on would hurt Obama’s general election chances.

7. The Rev. Wright story notwithstanding, the media still wants Obama to be the nominee — and that has an impact every day.

8. Obama might not be able to talk that well about the new global economy, but she (and McCain) can’t either.

9. Many of the remaining prominent superdelegates want to be for Obama and she (and Harold Ickes) are just barely keeping them from making public commitments to him.

10. She can’t publicly say more than 2% of all the things she would like to say about race, electability, beating McCain and experience.

11. If she somehow found a way to win the nomination, she would have to offer Obama the veep slot, and she doesn’t want to do that.

12. This is a change election, and Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton can never truly be change.

13. Obama is having fun most days, and she isn’t.

14. Even though her campaign staff is having more fun than it has for a long time, there’s hardly anyone there who, given half a chance, wouldn’t slit Mark Penn’s throat — and such internal dissension won’t help her in the home stretch

George said: "Same with superdelegate-to-the-stars Donna Brazile."

OH GREAT -- the woman who cost Gore the 2000 election.

THEN George said: "Obama’s skilled, close-knit staff can do things like silently kill re-votes in Florida and Michigan and not pay a political price."

Good Lord -- my dog is named George and although I adore him, he's dumb as a post -- but George of the blogs -- you really take the cake admitting this kind of crap.

This must be getting really bad in Clintonland.
The $1million per day in donates is cut in half.
Is this signs of the times?
Is this the Bear Stearns phenomenon?

Patsi
Those are Mark Halperins take not mine!
Even the most pro Hillary Journalists are seeing the writing on the wall including Halperin.

Unfortunately George that Halperin article is a pretty good description of the current situation. As I said earlier, from the beginning the mass media decided they wanted this Obama/Clinton race and then they fell in love. From that point on it was an uphill battle for Hillary. We won't discuss the merits of the two campaigns other than when this is over she should drown not dismiss hers.

Still she will stay in through the primaries if only because the golden man could implode and there needs to be someone standing in case that happens.

Jamie
Notice how the calls for her to drop out have intensified as he gets into more trouble.
The funny thing is if HRC was half as coniving as her enemies say she is, this election would have been over last fall. Slip a couple of the sermons to the right media about Dec. Obama is toast, edwards and everybody have no money to compete, game over.

But she didn't and here she is.

Jack

Time is Obama's enemy - that's why his supporters want Hillary to drop out. Richardson's endorsement could actually backfire on Obama - think about it. MSM is in a panic about Obama's lack of substance becoming known to the public - all he does is give speeches and do softball interviews. Right wing media is the only place to learn the truth about Obama. There's a lot more "dirt" on the way - people will be shocked.

GORDO
To quote King Richard "So?'
You have approximately 3 months to go in the Dem race and 5 months thereafter to the General.
"Mine" the dirt and throw it out there.
When you have the goods you don't make veil threats, you execute your plans confident in the outcome.

Quoting Mark Halprin
you might as well be quoting Drudge
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/13763.html

He considers Drudge an important political journalist.

Lie down with dogs

Nothing here is as truthful as on TPM -Bosnis: Clinton's Mastercard Priceless Moment I think Rich is right. Someone needs to make a U Tube of this.