Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Last night I heard Rachel Maddow state that on those (rare) occasions when she hears either Sen. Clinton or Sen. Obama say the word "McCain" a little bell goes off, reminding her that they haven't completely forgotten that the Republican party exists.

And that's a big part of the Dems' problem these days, as everyone has stated ad nauseum. Once McCain's economic proposals, or lack of them, become clear, that's when the Dems' ideas will hopefully stand out in stark relief.

watch out for the po-leece down there in Charlottesville........looks like a big flap-doodle down on Highway 64.......maybe it'll be over before tomorrow.....

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4536158&page=1

Mornin' y'all!

Craig, your post today reminded me of this ditty today-

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YvkX3t5LgVI

Hillary's speech yesterday about both Clintonand Obama supporters NOT voting for McCain was great. Haven't heard the candidate of hope and change address it.

Ahhh, I look forward to Friday's weblog the way I used to look forward to Sunday concert videos.

If Hil'ry, or anyone, thinks that the majority of people are back-your-party-come-what-may voters, she/they is out of touch. Is this a sign that she is backing away a bit, ready to settle for veep? Hope not.

Now, let's see if I can get word verifier to work this morning.

Juan Williams on Election 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leoy8EOWzl8

Thought this was pretty funny this morning-

ABC's Jake Tapper on "Good Morning America": "Former President Bill Clinton has a new way for his wife to become the nominee — only count the 40 primaries not the 18 caucuses. In a call with supporters in Texas, he said: 'Hillary's gonna wind up with the lead in the popular vote in the primary states. It's the caucuses … that have been killing us."

From the Playbook on the political-
http://dyn.politico.com/playbook/

Good Morning Craig, Everyone:
Nice to turn on the television have have Barnicle educate us on what change is:-))
If I were Barnicle I'd worry about Jaoba Chamberlain educating him who "Poppy" is :-))

--Heather

Good morning all. Typekey isn't talking to me today. They say they are sending you passwords .... they lie.

Morning Joe is now talking about the thrills up Matthews legs. Have Tweety and Joe Joe had a falling out?

"Obama is getting creamed by the Rev. Wright revelations, even though Democratic primary voters aren't paying attention. It will be quite different in the general, as most of us who deal in the world of political reality know. Obviously, Obama watched what Clinton did a couple of days ago. So he's decided to play a very simple game. It's called Follow the Leader. Oh, and for you Obama fans, your guy isn't the one leading. Because after sitting in the pews of Trinity for 20 years, admitting he'd heard some of Wright's screeds, after he said he didn't, Barack Obama still couldn't figure out the right thing to do until Clinton demonstrated it for him a couple of days ago.

So if you're one of those people buying his latest "Had the reverend not retired, and had he not acknowledged that what he had said had deeply offended people and were inappropriate and mischaracterized what I believe is the greatness of this country, for all its flaws, then I wouldn't have felt comfortable staying at the church," well, then I've got a country you can buy cheap. It's on sale for suckers."

http://taylormarsh.com/

Morning all
Pennsylvania senator to endorse Obama ----AP
Bob Casey is now publicly on board.

Dear Craig:

I loved the newest episode of Video Trail Mix. Tell me your not as addicted to tv as well hmmmm better remain silent on that one.

Craig one thing, if Hillary had gone to the Virgin Islands instead of Obama and got that serious tan going, truly they would have been impossible to tell apart :-))
Kidding.

Sincerely,
Heather

On the similar votes in Senate. There have been 85 votes on the war, and I believe they have voted the same 84 times. Not exactly the war monger vs. the peacenik.

mornin' all.

JennBe, Bill Clinton is simply speaking the obvious. He was not advocating not counting the caucuses, at least that one liner from Tapper doesn't say or suggest that, although in a sane electoral process no one would.

Blue, I believe it is Hillary talking to Dems who don't seem to understand the significance of letting a McCain presidency occur. At every point in the process up to the point you vote for someone in the general you face a choice between the 2 (or more) viable candidates that you have to choose from. In November, it will be McCain and one of the standing dem candidates. Now I can only look at the likely consequences of a McCain predsidency (the known likely consequences are an extended war in Iraq, an extension of Bushco economics, and a couple more RWNCs on the Supreme Court (to say nothing of the other two major levels of the federal bench)) and the choice for me is clear - the Dem.

" Is this a sign that she is backing away a bit, ready to settle for veep? Hope not."

I hope not too...because Obama won't be electable.

JennBe: In a call with supporters in Texas, he said: 'Hillary's gonna wind up with the lead in the popular vote in the primary states. It's the caucuses … that have been killing us."

This that statement translates to this? How:

ABC's Jake Tapper on "Good Morning America": "Former President Bill Clinton has a new way for his wife to become the nominee — only count the 40 primaries not the 18 caucuses.

The spin by the Obamedia is sickening.

And neither will Hillary.

Has anybody read the article with regard to the mansion that Rev. Wright ($ 1.6million) is building in Chiacago..

Am anxious to know who sealed the deal on this mortgage....

And for those of you who need an economic contrast between McCain and Clinton, & Obama, Krugman provides it.

Short story - in the mortgage arena - deregulate them and do nothing (McCain) versus tighter regulation and a progressive approach to aid homeowners and provide stability to the market for the Dems (although their programs differ in the particulars).

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/28/opinion/28krugman.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

And homophopes I believe are those who have a problem with homosexuals. I don't have a problem with them.

I do have a problem though with anyone in a marriage whether it is the husband or wife who are repeat offenders who cheat on their spouses and stay together.

It tells your children that it's okay to cheat on your spouse. So a cheating spouse is alright in your book as far as children in the family go?

This is just as bad as staying in a relationship of verbal or physical abuse and don't do any good for the children. It only hurts them in the end and gives them a warped sense of values.

Guys, I wasn't trying to start an arguement, just thought it was a funny little ditty. Trust me I'm not spinning for anyone. The only spin I know by heart is Republican. ;)

Patsi,
This is the bias that has been killing for some of us.
Can it be anymore clear how MSM is continuously twisting and turning. I am not a hateful person, but I can really feel the anger bubbling up. What I still do not understand is that Hillary doesn´t use this information (although information is regarded as new and relevant, and this is not) and shows the constant twists that are being made by MSM

The witchhunt continues.....

Obama messiah' creator: How far will 'cult' go?

"The creator of a satirical blog that asks whether Barack Obama is the "messiah" says he has a serious purpose, hoping the mainstream media will "work through its childish infatuation" with the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination.

"On a basic level, my concern is that Obama will ride the wave of emotion and mob-enthusiasm to office," Blosser wrote. "With the challenges (and inevitable compromises) that come with the job, illusions are going to fade and dreams are going to crumble."

Blosser is concerned voters are projecting onto Obama expectations that will be impossible to fulfill.

"People talk as if this man will usher in a new era of politics in which everybody, regardless of their opposing (and very real) political and moral convictions will join hands in some vague approximation of unity," he continued. "This will literally spell the end of politics as we know it."

"Obama's campaign seems to be predicated on the assumption that he has somehow transcended 'power politics,' that he is in fact the anti-politician," Blosser stressed. "Call me a cynic, but I have the hunch when you peel off the hope-saturated façade and get down to the hard business of running this country, you will find Obama is a politician, much like any other."

"How that will affect the masses will, of course, depend on the degree to which they were taken in," he added, noting the potential for let-down Obama has created by raising expectations."

(Yes, I know it is WND.)

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60093

Bob Casey the anti choice senator.
Claire McCaskill the anti immigration senator

" Is this a sign that she is backing away a bit, ready to settle for veep? Hope not."

I hope not too...because Obama won't be electable.

Posted by: Patsi | March 28, 2008 8:17 AM

Patsi: I'm not sure he is electable. I just don't think the Jeremiah Wright thing is going to go away now that the media is pouring over back issues of his magazine. I realize that the urban relationship between Italians and Blacks is different than other areas but I gotta tell ya...the latest insults from Reverend Wright aimed toward Italians did hit me a little different than the others (my grandparents immigrated to this country from Italy.)

I don't want to open a whole can of worms here...I am just saying that if eventually they find examples of Wright insulting most ethnic and religious groups, more and more people are going to be offended. And it starts getting more and more difficult to accept the story that Obama didn't know Wright was a bigot. (Let me state clearly here that I do not, for one minute, believe that Obama shares any of these views. I am of the opinion that he joined that church purely for street cred and probably didn't attend all that often.) Meanwhile, McCain just inches closer and closer to Pennsylvania Avenue.

I'll close saying this: The timing of that guy's retirement is just too convenient for color TV. If anyone thinks this was a coincidence I have a nice little oceanfront property to sell you in Iowa.

KGC: Exactly my thoughts when I heard Bob Casey. That could have been a "thanks but no thanks" endorsement!

You know, earlier this week, when discussing the race between HRC and BHO, some pundit said, "HRC is on the verge of making BHO unelectable in the general election...".

So, if BHO wins the nomination and loses to McCain, it will, of course be HRC's fault.

Heather, you're funny.

Jamie, I hope you saw my reference for you on the book "Founding Brothers" by Ellis.

Craig, I don't know how you deal with the absurditiy of Olberman with a straight face.

Gordo, without using World Net Daily, maybe you can did up more real links between the anti-American and anti-Jewish Islamic groups and donnors and friends of Obama. And the perhaps the connections between these people and Obama's group of Pastors.

Obama's new claim he would have left Trinity had Wright stayed is pandering to polls. His Church still posts crap in their news letter and stands behind Wright,

And Jamie, did you see the link between AAAN and Cairs. The FBI and other Federal and Illionois State investigators are going to look at that.

What is the problem? For Obama to say he had no clue of this web around him is not believable. How did Rezko find Khadili and why would AAAN work with Cairs if they did not shre ideology. The Jewish vote will find this interesting.

I find it hard to see why any Hillary supporters would even go on MSNBC. I find Olberman and Mathews particularly offensive. Last night's broadcast was no exception.

Also, Bill Nelson's advocating a popular vote is funny. If a popular vote of Democrats were held today, Hillary would win the nomination. One has a hard time finding principle in the Demcratic Party.

Hillary Clinton started World War I

Today's Trailmix is quite good. Clinton however, has tried to "encourage" Shrub to take action now and did present an idea that could have been acceptable to
a bi partisan effort. And Obama, Mr. Bi partisan ,took cheap shots at it.

Yes, a number of pundits have blamed Hillary for any disaster that may occur. Hell, then why get out now? LOL

All is not exactly right on the Progressive side:

http://stubbornfacts.us/politics/2008_election/progressive_party_has_some_bigoted_skeletons_in_its_closet#comment-13787

Craig, the economy is a monumental deal.

Consider this. We have the dollar crashing and overseas companies really trying to take advantage of the bargains over here.

What bargains are there? Hamburgers? Hotel rooms? What else? Certainly there are no bargains to be found in manufacturing, the traditional bedrock of America's economic might. Why? Because our manufacturing capability has been dismantled and destroyed.

And, once something as incredibly complex as the intermeshing pieces of a manufacturing economy are lost, so are the intellectual and trained human resources that created and maintained it.

I saw this coming back in the, when was it, late 50s or early 60s, when people in this country started to jump on the metrification bandwagon. (For the people who weren't around then, we (most of our hemisphere) used to make our nuts in bolts in inches rather than millimeters. The Blokes used a silly system called Whitworth. I know all this silly stuff because I was really into cars back then.)

In any case, there was a strong movement in this country to adopt metric units of measure across the board. It was done for manufacturing, but things like quarts and yards and feet still survive.

When we adopted it for manufacturing it meant that the rest of the world had an easy time making stuff to fit our machines. IMO, that was the start of our industrial downfall; it was then that we started losing our competitive advantage.

So what are the candidates to say? "It's the economy, stupid!"

Of course it is. But how in the world are we going to create something to replace manufacturing. And should we try to recreate some of our lost capability? The greening of America sure gives an incentive to do just that.

I know this for certain sure: We can't continue being a hamburger economy and have any sort of acceptable quality of life.

The current economic crisis is a result of unrealistically cheap credit and an unrealistic approach to the costs and sources of energy.

Both are the result of failed Shrubian policies.
(and the enabling goopers)

"Hillary's speech yesterday about both Clintonand Obama supporters NOT voting for McCain was great. Haven't heard the candidate of hope and change address it."

And it's only getting marginal attention on cable news this morning. When they do highlight it, they don't highlight the part where she is actually pleading with her supporters to "please think about [it]" and that no matter what the difference between her and Obama she says they are nothing compared to the differences between the two dems and McCain. She is reacting to the poll that says her supporters won't vote for Obama. It would be nice if the media just doesn't clip it and say - Oh Hillary says the party will unite when what she was really doing is pleading with her supporters to be true Democrats.

And yep, Patsi is right...don't hear Mr. Hope and Change saying the same thing.

The problem with her pleading is that the same poll showed that most of the people that will vote the other way are Independents...not Democrats - only a small number were Democrats...so harder to convince Indies to go along with a party...I mean...that's why they are Independents.

If BHO does win the nomination, the only way he would beat McCain, is to have HRC as his VP.

IMHO, HRC should not accept the VP position. I think, as VP, HRC would be blamed for every misstep BHO made, as President.

I am sure all the pundits would be saying that HRC and Bill must be behind the scenes "tag-teaming" poor, BHO into making bad decisions.

When Bush took office oil was $23 dollarsa barrel and now $104. The cause for the increase is speculation which Bush hides behind a cloud of fear and confusion.

And he has done nothing for alternative energy programs. Congress should re work the investment tax credit for alternative energies and allow that to continue.

In the end...I think the thing that will finally sink Obama in the Fall (if he gets the nomination) is the contradiction on Israel. He says he's pro-Israel but then surrounds himself with people who are anti-Israel...and some even go a step further than just being anti-Israel...a couple of those yahoos are anti-Jew (in the hate kind of way...Wright/McPeak - I'm sure Max and Fry can fill in more details). This is starting to bubble up and there is only so long he can continue to say he is Pro-Israel while everyone around him trashes Israel.

Scarborough has a crush on Hillary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QPBZJw6IKs&feature=user

This vid has clips of what Hillary said yesterday about not voting for John McCain...superb moment for her. Very real.

Pogo wrote: "Try talking about issues that mean a damn, and stop trying to be the morals arbiter."

Hear! Hear! Pogo - well said.

Senator Bill Nelson has proposed ending the electoral college. No canddate will ever visit Wyoming again.

Wendy: I imagine the outrage will be similar to that directed toward Jimmy Carter after his book came out...

There aren't any significant policy differences between Hillary & Barak? That explains why the Clintons have tried to use race, religion, and gender as weapons.

But it didn't work.

Next, they tried to bribe/threaten the superdelegates into helping them steal the nomination.

That's not working either.

Now they're trying to work out a deal with Hillary as Obama's VP. No deal and she keeps fighting dirty all the way to the convention, which will weaken the party and hand the election to McCain. (And then, they're thinking she can run in 2012.)

fixed your typos Nasch you are so angry and silly

There aren't any significant policy differences between Hillary & Barak? That explains why Obama have tried to use race, religion, and gender as weapons.

But it didn't work.

Next, they tried to bribe/threaten the superdelegates into helping them steal the nomination.

That's not working either.

Now they're trying to work out a deal with Obama as as VP. No deal and he keeps fighting dirty all the way to the convention, which will weaken the party and hand the election to McCain. (And then, they're thinking he can run in 2012.)

Ally - thanks for finding that clip - I was trying to back-up and watch Mo-Jo this morning but couldn't get the entire thing so didn't see that they played the entire clip. Good for MoJo

Of course, now that JoeS has a crush on Hillary (CANNOT WAIT FOR THE VIDEO) - he's going to show all the good stuff.

ROFL

Wendy: That was an authentic moment for her (hate that word because of Oprah) but it is appropriate here. When Obama talks about party unity it just doesn't ring true. It is begrudgingly.

AP

Divorce is much harder on children than a cheating spouse. Unless there is constant fighting or violence in the home, the couple is better off staying together if only for the sake of security and finances. The divorce rate is what is inflicting the most damage on children in our modern society.

More than 65% of all men cheat (women do as well but it's a lot lower percentage). The divorce rate is high enough without adding more reasons.

Obama Surrogate Threatens Super Delegates

Is anyone besides me tired of Obama surrogates threatening super delegates? On Meet The Press today Obama spokesperson, former Sen. Bill Bradley, basically threatened super delegates to support Obama ... or else face a challenger in their next election.

This is not the first time I've heard this threat.

It seems the Obama camp thinks super delegates should "follow the will" of the voters in their respective states. If Obama won the most pledged delegates in a state, then all the super delegates in the state should automatically support him.

When questioned by Rep. Nita Lowey about whether Sens. Kennedy and Kerry should "switch" their support to Sen. Clinton, since she won Massachusetts, Bradley offered a telling response. He basically said they should go ahead and vote the way THEY wanted to because even if they were challenged, who could beat them?

This is an interesting thought process in an age of "new politics" being touted by Sen. Obama.

Wendy! McCain does seem to have strong support for Israel, which will undoubtedly help him with the Jewish vote in the fall. Obama's problem will be trying to talk pro Israel - which he has done pretty well of late, and has gotten good reviews for it - while trying to distance himself from the Wrights, McPeaks, Zbigs, Powers, should I go on? While I hope that won't be fatal in NY, FL & CA if he wins the nomination, it certainly won't help him in those states.

Jamie: Thank you for saying that about children of divorce. I am a child of multiple divorces and I can tell you that it ain't easy.

This election has shown that the caucus system is a problem as it is very undemocratice and is open to both fraud and manipulation. As with generals who fight the last war, the Clintons were depending on the old "insider" methods to win the caucuses. They were not prepared for the organization of the Obama team with a registration and turnout drive that overwhelmed the system.

Now that these flaws have become so obvious, perhaps the party will go to the secret ballot primary for future contests. For this one, it is simply too late. Obama found a way to stack up the states that hadn't been used before. Clinton probably would have won and out and out total votes primary battle, but that wasn't the system in place.

"People talk as if this man will usher in a new era of politics in which everybody, regardless of their opposing (and very real) political and moral convictions will join hands in some vague approximation of unity," he continued. "This will literally spell the end of politics as we know it."

And it just might save America and the Constitution.

"Has anybody read the article with regard to the mansion that Rev. Wright ($ 1.6million) is building in Chiacago.."

I'm always amazed at the amount of money stacked up by these "men of God".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhDG67COW6w

"I do have a problem though with anyone in a marriage whether it is the husband or wife who are repeat offenders who cheat on their spouses and stay together.It tells your children that it's okay to cheat on your spouse. So a cheating spouse is alright in your book as far as children in the family go?This is just as bad as staying in a relationship of verbal or physical abuse and don't do any good for the children. It only hurts them in the end and gives them a warped sense of values."

I do have a problem though with [anyone who thrives on conspiracy theories and sees Nazis under every bed].

It tells your children that it's okay to [live in a fantasy world]. It only hurts them in the end and gives them a warped sense of [reality].

Arianna,
Bill Bradley is a useful tool for Obama, and hardly a big stick swinger, except in the financial and consulting field. Remember, his presy campaign in '00 was lost not as much because of Gore, but because of McCain. And the candidate of hope and change is using him this time? I think there are better choices out there. He is probably still popular in NJ, but when did NJ last vote repug? His answer about Kennedy & Kerry is certainly consistent with the politics of hope & change, now isn't it? LOLOL

As I said a few days ago, compelling Superdelegates to vote based on the results of their "state" presents some challenges because that's not the way the system was set up. Does a SD vote with the state they live in now? Or is it the state in which they served? Or is it their home state if they didn't serve in office? Are they going to force the SDs to vote the way their state voted or are power players like the Kennedys and Richardson going to get a pass on this rule and they can vote against their state results? Only the peons must follow the rules? The lack of leadership in the Democratic party is pathetic.

"Bradley offered a telling response. He basically said they should go ahead and vote the way THEY wanted to because even if they were challenged, who could beat them?"

Bradley gave this same response with a smirk on his face a couple of weeks ago.

Maxine Waters has the best response:

"I'd rather LOSE MY SEAT..."

and guess what...nobody is going to beat Maxine Waters either.

pogo...

It was suggested that Obama was a bad parent because of the CHURCH he attended. And I responded to that. To even suggest he was a bad parent because of it I brought up cheating husbands and wifes that condone it.

If someone were to cheat once than I think that they should try to work it out. But multiple times and its probably still going on, doesn't say that Bill's a bad parent either.

But to suggest because of church one attends makes them a bad parent and suggesting Obama's a bad parent because of Rev. Wright is something scumbags like Republicans would do and not Democrats.

If clinton supporters are going to start judging the morals of Obama than it should be far game to judge the morals of the clintons.

"Obama's problem will be trying to talk pro Israel - which he has done pretty well of late, and has gotten good reviews for it -"

He's also added "God bless America" to the end of speeches .....

Tell me again why I love politics ...

I think I liked him better when it was obvious religion was a way for an ambitious man to achieve political success.

I had a chance to watch colbert last night.. it was a rerun from St-Patrick's day, but as I didn't see it then, it was new to me! :)

"Nation, it’s tempting to say that our economy is in the crapper. But I think that’s unfair. It is past the crapper, down the tubes, out the illegal runoff pipe into the ocean where lobsters are feeding on it."

haha... i love colbert!

" some pundit said, "HRC is on the verge of making BHO unelectable in the general election...".

Yeah....like Rev. Wirght didn't gift wrap it for the Repubs. I also agree that Wright's anti-Israel raves will hurt. I'm not sure I understand this country's blind following of all Israeli policy, but it damn sure is a huge deal across the country.

Bill Richardson has shown the way for the superdelegates to vote......they must all vote for the candidate who in their estimation will be most electable in November.......New Mexico went for Hillary, right?

Pogo

I voted for Dollar Bill in the primaries. But like so many
gris eminence in the Democratic Party, he would rather discuss unrealistic approaches to problems that don't matter instead of what average Americans face everyday.

What if at the end of the primary calendar Barrack still leads Hillary with about 100 delegates, but she is consistently up in the polls and Mi and Fl were shut out. What r the super delegates to do?

the rules are that the superdelegates are to vote for he or she they think will win in november.....on whatever criteria they wish to apply......

" some pundit said, "HRC is on the verge of making BHO unelectable in the general election...".

Correction: This was said right before Texas and Ohio. It was said on CNN two days before the election, by some african american pundit. Can not recall his name. it is not new....

Hi Tylenol

How is Mr. T? Is he staple free?

The economy is Northern California is bad bad bad.
Even out local paper which still holds on to it's Republican outlook admits we are in a recession.
Local governments are going bankrupt in the bay area.
But Shrub what me worry?

the rules are that the superdelegates are to vote for he or she they think will win in november.....on whatever criteria they wish to apply......

Then wthat the F#$%& is the argument of Nancy Pelosi and the rest?
The Super D´s will decide for themselves. Or are they afraid of what is coming....The convention is after all NOT a caucus......(Hope you catch my drift.....)

Alfred "W" Newman....

hi KGC... Mr T will be staple free this afternoon :)

not only Shrub, McCain said the other day that Americans are on their own..no gov't help. Nice guy, that McCain.

So many nick names for Shrub

Deficit George Herbert Hoover Custer Bush

AP, I see your point - and I see the parallels. I don't believe I engaged in that from a moral perspective - I did chuckle at the political snafu it presented however since he, more appropriately his surrogates, have jumped on Bill's pecadillos from day one of the campaign. That said, what's the moral upside for your kids of staying in a church like Wright's? Belief that it's OK to believe in a God who's preached about by one who condemns the country you aspire to be president of and rejects the people who are God's chosen people according to the book the religion is based on? It makes absolutely no sense.

Kate....did you mean to leave out "Caligula"?

jamie, heheheh

Tylenol
Good news about Mr. T!

McCain's response was classic

get a job...get two jobs ...get three jobs if you have to.
Did you see the BBC story about "Dubyaville" a homeless encampment in Southern Cal. All people who had lost their homes through foreclosure.

(caligula translates as "little boots" by the way.)

Kate....did you mean to leave out "Caligula"?

Posted by: sturgeone

I knew there was something I was leaving out :)))

Yes all those poverty stricken folks at Move On need to check with their accountants to see if they can spare another 100,000 from the piggy banks.

Arianna - aloof is the word that comes to mind for Bradley - and that was his rep in the Senate.

(caligula translates as "little boots" by the way.)

Posted by: sturgeone | March 28, 2008 10:32 AM

Thank you for this Sturg...too funny!

McCain of course realizes that there is increasing employment opportunity in the rapidly growing segment of the economy that provides services to Americans displaced as a result of mortgage foreclosures.

Larry Sinclair update:

"Donald Young, the gay choirmaster at Obama’s church, telephoned me not long before he was murdered. How did he know who I was and how to contact me before I went public with my allegations about Obama?"

http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/donald-young-the-gay-choirmaster-at-obamas-church-telephoned-me-not-long-before-he-was-murdered-how-did-he-know-who-i-was-and-how-to-contact-me-before-i-went-public-with-my-allegations-about-oba/

"it is not new...."
--Jason

I only heard it last week...it was new to me 8~)

all those rosy job numbers for the past 8 years -- i'm so glad all those people found jobs flippin burgers... but I have a suspicion that those burger flippers are precisely the people who went for those subprime mortgages..so they've been screwed twice by the Shrub admin..and not kissed even once..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xNOHPJn2Wg

Michelle Obama at South Carolina - just some words out of context

oh fer...gordo..stop!!

The words that come out of MLRO's mouth, never cease to amaze me...

Jason,

First, read the moveon link above, it explains what these Big Donors are bitching about, which is contrary to DNC rules.

Secondly, as I understand, the Clinton campaign (Big Donors) jumped the gun and assumed a hardass approach to the SDs before even reading Pelosi's remarks, thereby further alienating more SDs. Another foot shooting stroke of genius.

Thirdly, Pelosi's stance on SDs and their duty has not changed.Clinton campaign(Big Donors)are back to the popular vote should win strategy, which is bogus as to rules.

Lastly, sturgeone is correct,

the rules are that the superdelegates are to vote for he or she they think will win in november.....on whatever criteria they wish to apply."

Rez

That is your spindrool (hat tip Lardass Liberal) on the letter.

spindrool as opposed to your ??

Come On Gordo .... We can't have two murderers running at the same time for the Democratic presidential nomination ... It depletes the political pool for later contests.

So sturgeone's comments are incorrect?

ty, wait til you see how the nitwit in chief tries to spin today's wage and inflation numbers to be a good thing. I'm sure the folks whose mortages are in delinquency and foreclosure will be comforted to know that goods other than food and fuel were a little cheaper last month and that inflation was only four times the rate of wage increases.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/28/business/28cnd-econ.html?hp=&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1206716125-k46zHl3BQRC5OMwFnawMDA

I will clarify my remarks although it was clear

Your comments on the letter sent by the donors

spindrool? I missed that. LL, you are the man!!!

goods other than food and fuel were a little cheaper ...

Yeah but because food and fuel were so high who can buy anything else.

hell..who can buy gas and fuel???

dammit! that would be 'food and fuel'

Spindrool really needs to get into the dictionary. We need an official meaning and then need to use it as often as possible from all sides until the polticos pick it us.

Craig, can you add Spindrool to "One More Cow"

So and so said, ....

Noun: "Oh that's just so much spindrool!
Verb: "He's spindrooling again!"
Adjective: Another spindrool announcement came from the campaign.

Other suggestions?

"spindrool" is a fabulous word, it is just awesome

Patsi...I just coined it tonight:

Spindrool: A collection of random unrelated factoids hastily pulled together in an illogical fashion in order to sustain an ongoing wet dream. Spindrool.

Heck. Maybe it'll make the list for this year's National Spelling Bee. The regionals were today, by the way.
Posted by: LardassLiberal | March 27, 2008 8:21 PM

oh..and that surge is really working innit??

kc, IMHO exempting food and fuel from the inflation figures is as bad as not counting city driving when you figure gas mileage and not counting in unemployment numbers people who ceased to draq benefits and have given up and no longer are seeking employment. And the economic figures are "good" or "bad" based not on how their effects impact consumers, but rather how they appear compared to the govenment's economists expectations. We can expect lots of spindrool on the gov't's. press releases on these numbers in fact, I'm betting they'll be too soggy to pick up.

About the only way to keep your grocery bill down is to avoid anything made with wheat and to shop as close to home as possible ... your backyard would be a good place to start.

well..there's spindrool..and then there's tweety's spin-spit.. that's when the wet dream is transferred to anyone in close proximity

Jamie-----------------------------

Some even tried to tie the death of Sonny Bono to the Clintons. Also, the Clintons were behind the "OJ murders" - OJ and Bill Clinton had the same drug dealer.

dammit - that would be "draw benefits"

Pogo/Ty

I too don't get how you exempt food and fuel.
I think Shrub is the worst elected official in the history of the United States. We will be recovering from the damage he and his gooper pals have done to every sector of life in the US for a long time. Republicans should hang their heads in shame and work to change their own party not weasel out. What a bunch of wimps.

Did the Clintons move the tree that Sono Bono hit???

Jamie

Good point about home gardens. And if you don't have a place at your home, a lot of places have community gardens where you can have a plot. Another way, if you cannot garden is CSA's community supported agriculture or farm shares. You buy a share of a farm for a season. It helps eat seasonally and locally both of which can stretch food dollars.

Might have to substitute "political position" for "wet dream" in the official dictionary definition. Then someone could write

The Joy of Spindrool

with all the possible positions one could take.

spin-drool-ism : practice of the spindrool religion

"I think Shrub is the worst elected official in the history of the United States."

He was NOT elected - stole it twice.

spin-drool-ism : practice of the spindrool religion

oops sorry double post

Pogo

"dammit - that would be "draw benefits""

When if comes to getting benefits from the government, "drag" might be more accurate.

He was NOT elected - stole it twice.

Posted by: GORDO | March 28, 2008 11:14 AM

'I acceot your correction

^^^ Sonny.. sigh.. i really DO know his name...

yep.. trickle down theories only work with urine.. oh wait! that's the idea.. piss on everyone!

pogo...

I had said that most churches have the children in Sunday School during the Mass and Sermon that I have attended, though it has been awhile. Or they send them to the play room area where the children don't hear the Sermon.

If they want to assassinate someones character because of the church one attends than there are a lot of people who not only sit in the pews on Sunday, but also watch on television the bigoted remarks of those like Jerry Falwell, Dobson, Robertson and Hagee and the many others who preach hate and bigotry every Sunday.

Don't call Obama or suggest he's a bad parent because of the church he attends unless you don't go to church or are affiliated with those mentioned above or preach like they do.

You can always find something you don't like about what your Pastor, Priest or Rabbi says remember that and if you continue to attend or participate at that church you to can end up being labeled a bad parent.

Was I the inspiration for "spindrool"?

If so - I am honored!

"spindroollary" like punditry

tylenol -------------------------

"Did the Clintons move the tree that Sono Bono hit???"

No. Sonny was intercepted on his way down the slope - then he was picked up and slammed into the tree to fake an accident."

HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA...gordo..yer a pistol!!

"Some even tried to tie the death of Sonny Bono to the Clintons."

Well they did plant the tree.

haha..i'm picturin Bill and Hillary, in full ski gear, crouched on the "expert run" waitin on Sonny... yer too much gordo!

Obama's pro choice stand is already questioned by a lot of people. His endorsement by Bob Casey isn't going to help that much.

LMAO @ BHO, on the VIEW saying he didn't have time to have someone examine every sermon his pastor had given, over the last 30 years.

Well, BHO only needed to buy "the best of" boxed set of sermons by Rev Wright.

" the gay choirmaster at Obama’s church, telephoned me not long before he was murdered. How did he know who I was and how to contact me before I went public with my allegations about Obama?"

ROFL! I'm positive that Hillary and Obama teamed up to murder both this guy and Vince Foster.

JennBe said: "Hillary's speech yesterday about both Clinton and Obama supporters NOT voting for McCain was great. Haven't heard the candidate of hope and change address it."

Guess you weren't watching ABC News last night, huh?

On another topic, interesting column in today's Chicago Sun-Times:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/865494,CST-NWS-SNEED28.article

Bob Casey also a bad vote on FISA

Why would one watch ABC for news(sc)
Charlie Gibson told Imus they didn't cover the Libby Trial because the issues were too complicated and he didn't understand them

I think that is true for all of their news(sic)

kc, that was a construct that was intended to give more "stable" economic figures by removing the most volatile elements of the consumer economy from the equation - which 2 years ago, before petrofuels started their meteoric rise, comprised 21% of the average husband/wife family unit's budget. It yields a stable and accurate, although unrealistic, figure. It's sort of like saying that my retirement savings would be a whole lot more if it weren't for all these bills.

Again the prayers for the Surge to fail.....What we see is Sadr worried that positive movement will end his game. We see mostly Iraqi troops taking on the hotbed. Yep, Shia troops against Shia militants, so why not support the Iraqi government instead of hoping for doom. The critics said this situation would never happen, yet Maliki has issues his ultimatum. If he triumphs it is a blow to Obama and Dean.

I can tell you why of course.

Yes Wendy,

Zbig, McPeak, Malley, Powers will not escape the Republican thresher. When you take this group's views and add them to the GROWING connections between Wright, Jackson, Meeks, Farrakhan (not denounced by Obama's church he still attends), Khadili, Acuhi and the info like what Jamie supplied yesterday (see link between Cairs and AAAN) a picture does emerge. This is why Nader said what he did. How Obama thinks his BS to the Jewish community will sell despite those who support him now, is fantasy.

McCain to a true friend to Israel and Obama has no record, bad friends, didn't vote for sanctions and would have done ZERO to contain Saddam. I wish McCain asks Obama what he WOULD HAVE DONE. Want to bet he copies the Hillary plan? And I posted his interview with Russert before he spoke at the convention. Now that was a flip-flop. He says we MUST make Iraq stable before we leave. He parrots Hillary's line.

Obama's credibility sinks every day. Give him some more time and his friends, advisors, mentors, supporters will do more damage. It took a while for the Press to investigate Wright and that was pushed by FOX. I am sure the FBI and other agencies are looking hard at Cairs, AAAN, and the various web of charities, money flows and activities of numeropus elements of the web including Auchi. One thing is for sure already: how Obama got himself into this web is a terrible case of bad judgment and credibility. Rezdog can hope we will never answer the questions I asked yesterday, but imagine Obama ever gets elected and the investigations eventually lead to some disturbing evidence? We will have a repeat of the Starr investigation, but yielding far more troubling behavior. The continued investigation into this would undermine his role as Commander in Chief and hurt his credibility in the Middle East.

Is this what Democrats want? And when Hizb'Allah and Syria start their bullshit in Lebanon, when more reports of Iranian nuclear work hits the press, as more support from Iran is seen in Iraq, who will the Democrats lean to stand tall? Obama? THis will start to happen before November. And when the moderates in Pakistan make their deal with militants, as Russia continues to use Belarus to deliver weapons to our foes, as Columbia investigates the efforts of FARC to get uranium, who will Democrats think is tough enough and hawkish enough to stand tall? Obama?

Give it some time Wendy. Obama has developed a knack for poor judgment and bad advise. A combination of mistakes and continued support for Hillary will likely triumph for her at the end of the day.

One thing is for sure" Obama is pretty Liberal and sports many who are extreme. His story has already caused such divisiveness, it is hard to imagine how he will get anything done. He has read Kauss's take over at Slate. That is why he used the word "pivot" yesterday. He is trying to signal he will move Center, but he will spend all his time now explaining his radical friends. his dubious advisors. His move to center, unlike Hillary's will look so pandering, even the Press will have to laugh.

Again, just picture Obama now hoping Sadr makes gains. What does that say about him? Of course, what is going on is exactly what one would expect as security is transfered to Iraqis and Sadr doesn't like that new reality. Jews should consider Deans remarks this morning that we should focus on Iraq. In the end, national security and the questionable story of Obama will be Barak's undoing.

I gues 28% of present Hillary supporters are actually Republicans....LOL And I will love it when Obama radicals are forced to vote for McCain.

i am so in love with "spindrool." Lardass strikes again. Let's make it our secret word today on msnbc. I will make sure to drop it in somehow, starting at 1:30

Pogo

Kind of like Shrub's new capitalism --where you only make money and when you get in trouble the government bails you out. Unless of course you are some poor schlameil with a sub pime mortgage

AP, as I said, I didn't engage in the moral judgments you mentioned about Obama as a result of his affiliation with Wright and his church, but it is a political nightmare that he won't wake up from for some time. I do go to church with my wife and kid (wouldn't want to set a bad example) although I do not believe. It's a Catholic Church that has no nursery, and in my experience, Sunday school is held before, after or between church services, and in every church I've attended, once kids get beyond about 6 years old, they quit going to the nursery. And I certainly don't agree with everything the priest says - not being a believer, that shouldn't be a surprise - but I've never heard him condemn the US - criticize it, yes - call for it to change from its warring ways, yes - state that it is not acting consistent with Christ's teacings, you bet. But he never speaks of the US with vitriol and has never criticized the Jews. I have never been concerned that my kid was listening to the man. His ministry is about love, compassiona nd charity, among other laudable human characteristics. But I don't care about what most churches do, and I frankly don't care whether Obama's kids went to Wright's services or think he's a bad parent even if they did - but if I did care about that, I would only care whether kids go to the services at THAT church, and whether Obama's kids did. Talking about most churches just changes the subject and demonstrates nothing.

Hey Max,

"It was only hours after Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg finally made it clear that he was not running for president that his chief political guru, Kevin Sheekey, suggested that he would be the perfect running mate for Senator Barack Obama."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/28/nyregion/28bloomberg.html?ex=1364356800&en=efe41c5f48648dac&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

Strange bedfellows?

Oh poop
I can't figure out how to unblock msnbc on the remote
I definitely want to hear the first public use of "spindrool"

Rez

You do know that Bloomberg by virtue of being a NY state resident could not be on the ticket with Clinton.

kc, I love it - did you block MSNGO to prevent yourself from accidentally watching it? I tend to have that kind of resolve myself - I swore not to visit HuffPo, but find myself there from time to time despite my best intentions to the contrary. I sometimes wonder why our BS filters let it through.

Why, I'm as pro-choice as all you filthy estrogenetic freaks!

I believe that every woman on earth has the right, no matter how young or how old, to be retroactively aborted.

Die, die, my darlings!

I suppose it is too much to hope for that we might get "spitdrool" or "spinspit" as well?

Thx KC didn't know that, but would he want to be?

Well, folks, I'm headed out for the weekend - keep 'em between the lines.

Pogo

Yes I throw up a little whenever I see Tweety.
Although I did enjoy the Obama girl video showing his man crush and what a drooling fool he is.

I like Tylenol's "spin spit " for Tweety.

Rez

I am a fan of Bloomberg's work as Mayor of NY
But I thought the whole presidential run was
ridiculous along the lines of the Unity 08 baloney.

I think Bloomberg has a big giant ego and big giant purse to go with it. If he could be on Clintons ticket
he would want to. He likes being a player

Probably you're right for the reason you suggest, but I don't think it's likely for either to go that route anyhoo. It does give him some momentary cover and looks good, which is important for us O fans:)

no.. spinspit has to be reserved for Hairball...

dammit! I shall be witnessing the staple pull at 1:30..someone DVR it for me!

For all Hillary supporters , "Declarations" by Peggy Noonan in todays WSJ is a must read......Have fun.

ok..gotta get Mr T to the clinic.. you'll probably hear the screams from there! see ya later..

Maria Bartiromo was just fawning over O man on MSNBC.
Another good Italian girl gone wild. Glad those Italians love Obama. :)

Rez

Who do you think would make a good vp choice for Obama? I like Janet Napolitano. Another completey different choice would be Webb.

What is MSNBC Today? is that the same as MSNBC News Live?

KCG
You're on the money! The Webb endorsement ......
Do I hear more anger from Camp Clinton?

Peggy Noonan who tried to crawl in the crpyt wtih Ronnie Raygun

Peggy Noonan fallen Catholic and pandering moralist.

Peggy Noonan of the magic dolphins.

I have read enough of Peggums to know she is craptastic

George

Webb's endorsement happened awhile ago. What are you talking about. I was trying to have a conversation with Rez Dog about potential vp's if Obama is the nominee. It started with a conversation about Bloomberg.

Wht are you trying to do?

And George
Peggums Nooners column is at minimum the third version of a column that stared at Politico (the high rent drudge) Bobo ran it as well. Not a single shred of original thought from everyone of them.

DW and I argue about this all the time. I think a woman governor/senator is a good choice. i.e. AZ, KS,MO. I think Webb is a good one; wife likes Ricardson or even Edwards if there was a chance, mainly because she started with them until I convinced her about O man.:) But to you question, I like Biden the best (cause i like Joe) but it ain't going to happen.
It would be best if HRC was available but that's a mess now.
The nominee has to be political and not practical in their choice , which to me starts on the wrong foot. But that's JMO

George

Peggers is never "must reading" for anyone with a brain and emotional maturity beyond that of a ten year old.

Rez
I think Biden wouldn't accept because he is more powerful staying in the senate.

The Clinton Obama thing is a mess. I don't see how either could even ask the other let alone accept.

I have been trying to think outside the box about potential vp's for ether. I think a governor a state that has made some economic progress. Is there such a person?

What about the guy from Tenn?

KCG
Webb hasn't announced his endorsement but its coming ... very soon.
Jamie
Thanks

People are up in arms over comments made by Rev. Jeremiah Wright. But the real crap is from the "jihadists". http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7d9_1206624103

violent, horrible & scary.

George
My bad. There have been so many Obama Webb stories I thought he already had.

Whichever campaign was counting on crossover Republicans in Kentucky is SOS.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-03-27-ky-vote_N.htm

KC,
Don't know much about Bredesen, but a quick glance doesn't look bad. Beings it's got to be a "real" political choice, a southerner would be good since his biggest weakness is low-middle class working white guys. Whoever has the most appeal to them, like Edwards supposedly , then I guess that would be a good choice. I saw something about the ex Cong from IN Roehmer??. that also goes to Webb.

KCG
You're suggestion of Webb as VP to Obama is spot on.
His choice of VP will more than likely be one who neutralizes McCain's so called "foreign policy creditials'

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/03/friday_line_veepstakes.html?hpid=topnews

this is from today's post. But I thnk they are boring safe and conventional

Maliki Extends Militants' Deadline ---Times magazine
Maliki has taken a leaf out of the Musharraf playbook....
Shia conmanship!

Help...this election is turning me into a person without any strength of character, free will or self-discipline.
I am watching the View to see what Obama has to say and I swore I would never watch that show again .
I'm TiVo-ing MSNBC JUST to see CC and I had sworn I would never watch Andrea, Noron, Tweety and KO again...blood pressure can't take it!
I'm so disappointed in my self. : (
~weak-ass gidget

Gidget you must be suffering from spindrool withdrawals.

: )

Gidgit,

Don't worry until you find yourself growling at the TV.

Paranoid Park..new Gus Van Sant movie very good

Has Andrea been drinking? She doesn't seem to be able to read a sentence or form a cogent remark.

a 5 martini lunch, she was stumbling like an armature

Benefit of a doubt. If she hadn't been drinking, she's pretty ill. The mouth definitely was not connected to the brain.

Will someone be kind enough to explain the meaning of "spindrool"?

I know it is a LaL word...but I can't find exactly when he used it, for the first time...

Jamie-
I was way past growling at the aforementioned pundits...yelling and throwing things is more like it.
Obama is doing well, but spindrool would be a compliment to the garbage that blondie on the View is spewing.
Has Craig been on yet?
~g

Patsi...I just coined it tonight:

Spindrool: A collection of random unrelated factoids hastily pulled together in an illogical fashion in order to sustain an ongoing wet dream. Spindrool.

Heck. Maybe it'll make the list for this year's National Spelling Bee. The regionals were today, by the way.
Posted by: LardassLiberal | March 27, 2008 8:21 PM

Oh, thank you, KGC... 8~)

How funny -- I was just sitting here watching Her Royal Newiness and thought WTF? is she drunk?

So, that makes Chris Obamatthews(with his spit always flyin')the "ultimate spindrooler". 8~D

So I tuned in for the opportunity to hear spindrool used
and suddenly there was Bob Shrum, The Biggest Loser, giving advice to Senator Clinton.

I guess I will only hear about the public debut of spindrool second hand.

The possibility of seeing Shrum is too scary and Mrs. Greenspan yuck.

LL-
I think someone labelled CM as a "spitdrooler" : )

Or was it spit spinner ?

ROTFLMAO @ "spitdrooler"...I missed that one!!! 8~D

Here is a comment I posted at Centerfield.

http://www.centristcoalition.com/blog/archives/004201.html

I try to explain what I see the real policy difference is between Hillary and Clinton. It also helps put into context why I think Obama's associations help clarify the policy positions of his advisors and declarations.

I hope it also explains why Hillary backers are so passionate about this difference and why they would consider McCain unlike the false threat the Further Liberals cry of voting for McCain, or not coming out. If only they shared a more McCainian view of national security, Hillary would already be the nominee.

" Bob Shrum"

Given his track record and willingness to turn on clients like Edwards, we should be calling him Bob Sham.

Official Definition of Sprindrool as given by Lardass Liberal

A collection of random unrelated factoids hastily pulled together in an illogical fashion in order to sustain an ongoing wet dream. Spindrool.

I did make the suggestion that "Political Position" might be substituted for TV appearances.

Spinspit is reserved for Tweety Matthews - This is when spindrool is transferred from one person to another in close proximity.

"If only they shared a more McCainian view of national security, Hillary would already be the nominee."
Max,
It's been said here over and over, the voters aren't as wired in as the blogsphere or political junkies (same maybe).I saw a reporter on NBC last night that said a recent survey showed less than 50% asked, knew of/about Wright. I know that will change but Joe Six-pack's not interested today.

" Because the government is never sincere or passionate."

Doesn't that make it "limpspin"

Boy I do not know why I watch the news media! I am so tired of the media saying Hillary should drop out. The only reason they want her to drop out is because they support Obama and he cannot WIN. Also he is going to get beat big time in PA.
They are pushing the drop out NOW because of PA. It is so sick. I had no idea politics was so sick. Bill did not get his until JUNE so why the hurry? The Hurry is that Obama KNOWS he is going to LOSE so get rid of Hillary then he has a free road to the nomination.
Also, Obama received the NEWSLETTERS from the church so he had, over the last 20 years, read these terrible assertions that Wright made.
HIS children listened to this man, that would be enough for me to leave. Also he DID say Wright was his MENTOR now he is denying it. He said that on the VIEW today.
SICK!

Jamie...and in a bone to Team Obama, I'll suggest a word they can use when our side engages in the lecturing, no-nonsense brand of spin that we "bitchy" HRC supporters like to feed people.

Spinitch.

"Spinitch. It's good for you. Have some more."

"Spinitch. It's good for you. Have some more."

Popeye endorses Clinton!

LMAO @

Spinspit is reserved for Tweety Matthews - This is when spindrool is transferred from one person to another in close proximity.
--Jamie

I might suggest "spinarrhea"
--LardassLiberal

"The Hurry is that Obama KNOWS he is going to LOSE so get rid of Hillary then he has a free road to the nomination."

Exactly. They know that more crap will hit the fan and they need this to be clinched before it does.

Oh my God....Matthews and Obama together for an hour for Hardball's Campus Tour next Weds....

It will be positively pornographic.

I hope it also explains why Hillary backers are so passionate about this difference and why they would consider McCain unlike the false threat the Further Liberals cry of voting for McCain, or not coming out. If only they shared a more McCainian view of national security, Hillary would already be the nominee.

Posted by: Maxtrue

Although i share many of the sentiments of the Hilary supporters on this blog, your reasoning best represents my own. How are your thoughts excepted here?

toast

yeah...BHO with CM, will kinda give new meaning to "Hardballs Campus Tour"...

I can't wait to watch it!1

*accepted @ Milquetoast ;)

You know, after Scarborough teased Tweety yesterday about Obama girl's latest video (where she says "Chris Matthews has a crush on Obama..."), I'm thinking: Maybe Tweety will go counterintuitive and get all aggressive with BHO to show he's not really in the tank after all.

LL:

"I'll suggest a word they can use when our side engages in the lecturing, no-nonsense brand of spin that we "bitchy" HRC supporters like to feed people.

Spinitch."

How bout I call you all "spin bitches" and label your posts "bitch spin".

(is that better than "you people"?)

LushIsLinda

Thanks and somewhat surprised to hear that.

toast

Warren -- I think "spinitch" gets you the same concatenation of the words "spin" and "bitch" that you're looking for, while also creating a decent third meaning -- that we're force feeding you something that doesn't taste very good.

And it takes enough edge off of the "bitch" aspect that will keep you out of the hot water of defending yourself against charges of sexism every time you use it.

yikes, Warren...it's Friday...relax!!

GALLUP 3/28 Today's Gallup Poll Daily tracking update finds Barack Obama with an eight percentage point advantage over Hillary Clinton (50% to 42%), this gives him a statistically significant advantage for the first time since before the Rev. Jeremiah Wright controversy.

Hi Wendy,

Your daily Rasmussen doesn't look good either. Sorry!

Ok "spinitch" it is.

Should have known I would lose to in the court of public opinion (at least is it exists on this blog).

Another weird cul-de-sac on our long, national roadtrip to racial harmony:

http://gawker.com/5004715/time-for-leibovitz-to-confess

"get all aggressive with BHO to show he's not really in the tank after all."

For some reason MoJoe hasn't been as starry eyed about Obama lately. After months of drooling approvingly, he seems to have moderated a bit.

I just wish the blabbermouths would stop the "drop out Hillary" line. What would be so horrible about just letting the election schedule run its course?

If there is any major negative on any of the candidates, I think whoever is holding those cards close to the chest would do the country a favor and get it out in the open before the conventions.

For the people not watching MSNBC...Craig is on now. 8~)

Jamie...in that same video clip (posted earlier) where he's teasing Tweety, MoJo actually refers to Hillary as "my girlfriend."
It really is bizarre.

Craig was great...but no spindrool useage.

Craig, I just saw you on MSNBC. You did good. She sure wanted you to agree with her and the rest of the media. Good you stood your ground.
Answer me on question? Why are people not asking Obama to drop out for the good of the party, he cannot win either?
He is the least electable.

Campaign 2008: Pundits Versus Reality

THE PUNDITS
Hillary Clinton will lose the big states on Super Tuesday and the race will be over
THE REALITY
Hillary Clinton wins the big states on Super Tuesday – and wins them by double digits

THE PUNDITS
Hillary Clinton will lose Texas and possibly Ohio on March 4th and the race will be over
THE REALITY
Hillary Clinton wins both Texas and Ohio on March 4th – and she wins Ohio by double digits

THE PUNDITS
Barack Obama is substantially ahead in the popular vote; Florida and Michigan don't count; therefore the race is essentially over
THE REALITY
The popular vote is virtually tied; half of Barack Obama's narrow vote advantage is from his home state; and his lead excludes Florida and Michigan

More Pundits Versus Reality:
http://taylormarsh.com/

Lal

King Kong was the good guy and that is just a great photograph. Some people see way too much meaning in everything.

Craig,

You missed a good line. She said something about "winds" blowing against Hillary ... If it happens again, you might mention that there does seem to be a lot of hot air.

Jamie...Apparently it is causing a brouhaha...something that you'd usually see a mag like Vanity Fair handling and even reveling in, but not the kind of media attention Vogue likes to attract.

My favorite comment on the article was from some guy named "moff", who said: "Nick, we transcended race about a week and a half ago in this country."

"LeBron James does not have a problem with his appearance on the cover of Vogue magazine,..."

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/44191

Noron has just showed the Chelsea clip re her mother being a better POTUS than her Dad for the third time in 24 minutes...and giggles each time. Personally, I think it was a brillant response....

"Some people see way too much meaning in everything."

I don't read much into it. However, beyonce or Halle Berry would have looked better JMO

Posted by: Gidget | March 28, 2008 3:27 PM

Hasn't Bill already said she would be better?

KGC-
IIRC, he said in his autobio that he thought she would be a better POTUS than himself when they were in law school. I expect that he will be thrilled that CC said it.
(I agree, too....and I loved Bill as POTUS)
~g

Gidget
Thanks. Once again proving Noron has earned her nickname.

I agree with Chelsea. It won't do any good, but I just sent MSNBC an email:

Since the beginning of the campaign, MSNBC has been so deep in the tank for Obama that you will get the bends the next time you come up for air. All day today it has been pundits coming on with the "drop out Hillary" line. Just for the novelty, how about letting the American public finish voting before you escort her to the guillotine.

The Noron giggle should probably be copyrighted and used whenever the right level of total inanity needs to be expressed. She would make a fortune.

Jamie-
Apparently Leahy is going to amend his remarks regarding the need for Hillary to drop out....terrific...now MSNBC will have an excuse to spindrool the story for another 2 hours. Craig's on again in 1/2 an hour, I hope he uses you hot air remark.
~G

I can hear it now...
"Que up the Noron....."

"We remember the days when O’Donnell would go on Hardball and get her Irish up a tad. Indeed, O’Donnell was still talking back to power as late as October 28, 1999 (and getting openly ridiculed for it)."

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh050206.shtml

1999? other than being a great Prince song, that's almost 10 years ago!

hope Obama wears protection on Hairball.. wouldn't wanna get any of that spinspit on 'im.. that's toxic..

I hope someone will post the Leahy amendments

from the howler

MATTHEWS: Right. Well, could it be that, that George W. Bush seems like a spontaneous human male, rather than a, a, a windup robot—

well so much for his judgement

KGC-
I think it's going to be a live statement and MSNBC will carry it (according to Noron)
Is you rMSNBC still blocked? If you've got Comcast maybe I can help you.
~G

Gdget

I did get it unblocked but thank you so much
I'm just not watching due to possibly seeing Bob Shrum :)

Craig's on right now.

so lemme get this straight.. if casualties go down in Iraq, the US is winning.. and if they go up? they're still winning? ohhh i gettit.. it's a win-win situation!

KGC,

Bush was just on the tube which brought this to mind.

You seem as up on it as anyone. Those folks upside down in "their" homes with the super, sub-prime, soon to reset loans are not going to gain much in this paulson/bush bailout plan after it's all said and done, are they? Seems to me, unless there's a re-negotiated (lowered) principal amount, that they are just in perpetual debt peonage to the lender, since, barring a fluke, they never gain any equity. Is my thinking flawed here? lol

Rez
That is correct. The up shot is they are likely to walk away There was an article in the SF Chronicle not too long ago about this very issue. Apparently some banks are willing to write down some of the negative amoritzation and /or add the delinguent amounts at the end of the loans. If I can find it I'll post it.
One guy in a high end house over 750k was playing chicken with he bank on changing the terms of the loan.

The man said he has not made a mortgage payment for five months.

"I'm playing the bank game," he said. "I'm playing chicken with them. I already got them to agree to put (the unpaid) payments on the tail end of the loan. What I'm really pushing them to do is to (adjust my mortgage) for the current market value and write off the rest. I'd love (to have it) lopped down to a $450,000 basis rather than $710,000."

If the bank won't negotiate, he'll walk away, the man said.

That kind of story sends chills down bankers' spines. To date, most loan modifications have involved freezing interest rates or repayment plans for arrears.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/16/MNFFVI036.DTL&hw=playing+chicken+with+the+bank&sn=002&sc=541

Thx. I know this is oversimplified but figures, the big dogs only benefit.

Rez

Certainly works in this case.

Depends on whether bank customers have the stomachs and stones to wait out the banks and mortgage companies... the mortgage industry is so de-regulated in the US that the gov't doesnt really have any control anyway..

KGC

LOL one more,

Like in the article; did he just overpay initially or was this maybe due to a 2nd mortgage, Home equity loan,? Because up until a couple of years ago wasn't property appreciating?

Send me you invoice off line lol

Honestly, I do not have sympathy in some of these cases, unless of course there's outright fraud.

tylenol and Rez

There is a need for more financial literacy. A lot of these people have no idea of their rights let alone anyone who can help them advocate for them.

i've been wondering for a while if there's a possibility of an S&L collapse again??

http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/2008/02/fdic-bracing-for-bank-failures.html

KGC..you're amazing.. lol .. I just ponder while you're the Answer Lady!

Things are so different up here.. our banks are strictly regulated, there are only 6 major banks and all of them are heavily deposit-insured, they and only they (and a few credit unions, who are just as regulated) can be mortgage lenders. I've often wondered how it is that in the US, if 3 guys get together and pool some money, they can open "Al's Bank" ..and set up shop!

Rez

I think he's a gambler. He took out money to buy a pool. I can't the bank writing it off but if they are holding a bunch of house they can't sell...who knows. No guts
no glory.

Another term, perhaps more subtle than spindrool or
spinspit (since you only know it's there by the smell), is "spinfart'...... or could that be the old pundit who
is spindrooling?

Tylenol

That is close. Although recent changes in regulations have put the really sleazy mortgage brokers out of business.

The relaxed regulations and laissez faire enforcement are the hallmarks of the Shrub administration.
They like to "encourage enforcement not require it."

lol.. spinfart is subtle???

In the GOP debates - they recommended that these mortage contracts be simplified. So that everything is explained to the borrrower in a few pages - instead of some massive packet that you don't read and just sign 27 times...

(since you only know it's there by the smell)
--patd

You have obviously never met(heard) my husband or any of his friends!!!

Ohh....CC on Hardballs!!

Ty...Deregulation of big businesses of all stripes, not just banking, has been increasing since Reagan. Bushco has just taken it to new heights...or lows. This is just another example of why I keep saying we have the very best government big business could buy...and why mainstream America is getting screwed in favor of the wealthy and powerful.

Patsi...Just started reading Free Lunch...which is confirming everything I already believe about our government and big business...and then some! Have you read Perfectly Legal...bu the same author?

Rezdog,
You are right. Most do not see the web I have been highlighting nor even understand the two views on "hegemony" my rant over at Centerfield discussed. Can I expect Obama supporters even to understand the contradictory views of the Carter Doctrine and what Zbig and companty is suggesting now? You have both anti-war and strange interventionists under the Obama banner. Most Democrats accept the Don Carleone threat without even questioning its sanity.

Please forgive my typos here and at the posts I placed elsewhere and linked because I rush this stuff down while multitasking. Not that I haven't thought of what I'm saying before.

Again Rezdog you exactly point out the danger of Americans being uninformed because American Thinker and numerous other bloggers will drive these issues once Obama becomes the nominee. Remember, the concept that attacking a Democrat by a Republican usually garners him support. from his Party. The disgrace is that Hillary did not get that bounce much from Democrats when Republicans attackered her at the start of the campaign, IDemocrats haven't even demanded media silence their slanted and sexists reporting. In all fairness to many Republicans, many see Hillary the safer candidate should they lose. Many have defended her despite their disgust but now view Obama with horror. Others want an Obama to run against and drive stories against him increasing his Democratic support, hoping he nails their hated Hillary and then gets blasted by McCain.

My take is that the web you rightly say is cloudy has gone over most American's heads. It won't take much to put it on the radar. Right now Republican tactic is to drive the fight between Democrats, not put their swords in Obama.

There is little Obama can do to hide the association he formed between Khadili (when he was at Columbia) and Rezko. How did that happen with out Obama? We know the general reaction was against Khadili's invitation to Ahamdinejad and it was poorly handled. Hamas no more repects Israel's right to exist than the Mullahs. Do not think Auchi has no connection to Khadili or Hamas. Do not think that Cairs has no connection to both helping Hamas and having a friend in Khadili. No wonder Obama has distanced himself from Zbig because of his view of Israel. No wonder Carter is not on board publically.

The arrest of Hanooti will lead to more stories regarding Islamic and radical charities and activists who support them particularly in Illinois and Michigan. Once Cairs, AAAN and other groups become linked to both Middle East elements such as Hamas and Ba'athists, it will be fairly easy to show how Obama is related in an as yet unexplanable way to this particular network. And how ironic that the ideology of Khadili and others actually support those murdering Blacks in the Sudan or in Somalia.

As I mentioned, there is some connection with this web and the foreign policy advisors. And how much more will it then take to see the links between Jackson, Farrakhan and Wright to this circle of groups? Trinity circulates a letter I posted here days ago from Hasa to Oprah? Today CNN reports on it. I would be very suprosed Rezdog if the media doesn't air these questions and connections before November.

At best this web of associations will be seen as a rather anti-jewish and anti-American bunch with many indicted, arrested and deported. How did Obama get mixed up in all of this? People will question why Obama is against the very monitoring of many of the groups I have mentioned. Notice wiretaps were used in breaking up some of the anti-American groups. This surfacing of the Obama web will be fatal as Obama tried to move center,. His judgment, story and credibility will be questioned. It is that simple. At worst, new connections will suggest Obama knew quite a bit about the people he associated with and that his image of a centrist candidate rejecting such nasty views is much of a fiction. And one needs to say Obam actually agrees with much of the thinking or behavior of such friends and associations.

It may be up to the media. Notice the reporting of Rice's comments on Obama. Normally what she says is laughed at, but if it can help Obama, then she must be making sense.

Expect media to move on Iraq too. The coverage will probably promote doom instead of supporting the Iraqi effort to apply law and order to Shia regions. Remember the Iraqi people voted for a unified country under a Constitution. At least CNN explains how Iranian missiles are in Iraq. Perhaps OBL might endorse Obama. Cafferty just stated Hillary said she was running for her life in BOsnia. He hails Casey's endorsement. I guess this is CNN's version of fair and balanced.

I guess what I'm saying Rezdog is that media is one reason why the American voters you talk about are so poorly informed. If they act even more openly to support Obama and do this through the general, you might be right. We will wait until after day one to understand who we really voted for.....

To be very clear I meant,

And one not need to say Obam actually agrees with much of the thinking or behavior of such friends and associations.

That isd< I do not think he supports much of the garbage these individuals or groups spout. I find it silly to even associate with them as a candidate.

"Have you read Perfectly Legal.."

No, harbor...but I will! Just sickening....huh?

HUD proposals on changing mortgage documents
http://recent-business-news.com/data/articles_b11/idb2008.03.15.08.16.54.html

Republicans appear to have adopted the Democatic reforms
http://www.opencongress.org/articles/view/293-Congress-s-Cushions-For-Sub-Prime-Fallout

Maxtrue:

"Please forgive my typos here and at the posts I placed elsewhere and linked because I rush this stuff down while multitasking. Not that I haven't thought of what I'm saying before."

Perhaps you think about it too much.

Things can be over-analyzed my friend.

(McCain's "my friend" can be addictive!! Just like the Clinton CAPS - which I find myself using sometimes.)

I've been giving a lot of thought to this whole "likability" issue related to Hillary. I really think it is mostly about her being a woman than any other particular reason. I came to this conclusion today when the movie YENTL popped into my head. Out of the blue, I remembered what an excellent film it was and how many who follow movies expected it to get major academy award nomination. One nomination, almost universally expected, would have been to Barbra Streisand for BEST DIRECTOR. However, the film only had a Best supporting actress nod for Amy Irving and nomination for best musical score (that one it won). Many Hollywood observers explained that Barbra was discounted because she was a woman and she had a reputation for being a "bitch". Had she been a man, the directing would have been viewed as a strong director who knew what he was doing. Instead, Barbra was "difficult" and "not likable".

Barbra Streisand was telling a beautiful story about a young Jewish woman who longs to become a Talmudic scholar -- despite the religious restrictions against her doing so. The movie deserved far more recognition.

I see parallels between the Babs experience with Yentl and Hillary Clinton's campaign for President. She is "shrill", she is "divisive", she is a "dragon-lady", she is a "bitch", she is "mean", she is too "tough" and not "feminine" enough. Barack Obama is "brilliant", he is a "uniter", he is the new "John F. Kennedy", he is "strong", he is "kind", he is a "messiah", and he is never in the wrong.

A clear double standard. Hillary snipes back at Obama and she's negative. Obama makes a nasty comment about her, and it still is her fault. The MSM should really get on their knees and wait for the coronation. Sheesh!

nanny, yes the veggies... I think I am turning a skin color of green. heheh, I love spinach! I also eat broccoli, califlower, salads, perhaps too many tomatoes, many celery, and then my lovely powdered foods. This is not easy for me, but like many out there, I gotta reduce.

WELCOME back btw... glad to see you hear. As for the garlic... hmmmm I suppose I could buy it fresh.. Maybe if we hang crosses on all walls? :-D

Here is a fun link:

http://www.bertisevil.tv/evidence.htm

For the general:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9246.html

Tom...I hear you on the veggies. Just talking about them makes me hungry. But is fish even a no-no on your new diet? You can really have even more fun and learn more cooking tricks if you go that route. (not that I'm trying to mess with a diet you've already committed to.) :)

*accepting hand in friendship*

(and you can thank Lardass Liberal for the "spinitch" comment....but then again, it was nicer than what I suggested.)

Chuck Todd abandons the party line
"Obama supporters across the blogs have also given much praise to Todd. They won't praise, via Todd Beeton, this Todd post:

Obama can no longer argue that when compared with Clinton he will expand the electoral map in a general election with McCain. Now he can simply say he will use a different map; a map that ultimately might expand for the party as a whole, even if his path to 270 is no less narrow a victory than Clinton's. It is just different.

. . . The party ought to lay off the calls for Clinton to drop out, at least for now, because her presence at worst is making Obama a better candidate. The Wright flare-up was the first true political crisis of Obama's national political career, which is remarkable given how close he is to being the Democratic nominee. Who knows when the Wright controversy would have circulated had the nomination been locked up."

Mauro says I need to eat fish. I do buy little shrimps to put in salads now and then, but I am supposed to be allowed fish once a week. Mauro, the Italiano, says it does not make sense that I can't have any rice or bread or pasta because pasta especially is very healthy, if it is cooked in an italian red sauce.

The foods I buy from this special supplier is basically powders in pouches. Some of it forms into food, others just a drink. It's bloody expensive and the "food" is urrrrgh, but I am doing ok with the diet, and have, in fact, reduced one of my diabetic pills from 3 mg to 1 mg per day.. so that is good news.

Amen to Chuck Todd...

Keep at it Tom! But maybe cook yourself a fresh salmon filet once in awhile for that once-a-week treat, if you're allowed it. It's pretty easy. Just sprinkle a little kosher salt and dill weed on the fish. Then it's skin side down and low heat on a grill (as low as it can go) for 30 minutes or so. You don't even need to turn it. You'll know when it's done.

Tom,

I've had two projects in development (says nothing! means less!) at Streisand's production company.

I had good minutes and bad months with her.

There are plenty of biases against plenty of women in Hollywood.

Fr'instance... Diablo Cody (stripper, writer of tight sketch comedy dialogue) beats Sarah Polley for best original screenplay. Why? Ever notice that Polley (who is at least as beautiful as Uma Thurman, can write and direct brilliantly and is a joy to work with and for) doesn't work in American movies anymore? Because she spontaneously joined a strike on the set of Guinivere.

End of American career... even with the accolades she keeps receiving.

As it happens there were issues around Streisand's receiving a nomination.

A first time director gets a lot of help from the crew. That's never a problem.

But Streisand was said to have Coppola and Spielberg on her sets and in her editing suites somewhere between frequently and more often than not.

Do I think "they" directed it for her? Nope. She loves to kibbutz and be kibbutzed with... I believe on the Lazy Afternoon LP she told a story about schmoozing over dinner with Coppola over what to do on that lovely album.

But... that stuff means a lot Out There. One of the most respected figures, far from just in the movies, but in so many arts is Walter Murch. Everyone trusts their work to him whether in conceptualizing, sound design and editing or just plain editing. (Coppola credits him with Apocalypse Now Redux.)

Yet when Murch directed his only film (the woefully underseen Return To Oz) he was not criticized but crucified over having had Coppola, Lucas and Spielberg -- whose films he helped build and often saved -- on his set.

That made him less than a director.

There was also the issue of her use of compositions from Roman Vishniac photos of the shtetls. But that is nothing compared to wholesale "homage-genuos" "borrowings" in lots of Oscar nominees and winners.

You have to remember that Spielberg had to take on the Holocaust to win an Oscar. You don't just have to be difficult to be left out of the nomination circle: sometimes you can be TOO successful.

And remember -- the Academy sometimes likes to grant multiple awards (like to Hanks) and other times likes to say, "You've got yours and that's enough -- until maybe, say, you are 80 and a supporting actor/actress."

Which, come to think of it, is exactly what Lauren Bacall was expecting from The Other Face In The Mirror...

Who directed that anyway??

ET

No Pasta and minimal carbs until you hit desired weight and it would be a good idea to have the doctor check if you are gluten intolerant.

"what James Carville has to say about Senator Casey.

The son of Mr. Let's Just Let Women die in childbirth?

Definitely spinitch here

How about spinfracting - spin on the spin

Which I think is what they are doing on the polls for BO
regarding this wright stuff.

Julie

Very interesting 9/11 ! Thanks for that !! I didn't necessarily mean to say she should have WON, but I did believe she deserved recognition. Though in my heart, I thought she should have won.

Speaking of LAZY AFTERNOON, my favourite Bab's album is the one before that .. BUTTERFLY. I got it via a public tv auction -- anyone remember those? Anyway, I was surprised to read years later that it was/is HER least favourite album. I don't know, maybe that had more to do with Jon Peters.

Anyway .. PEEPS ... (and I used to like that moniker)... I am off to bed. Tomorrow early I am going to lobby a neighbour to work for me :-)

Many hugs, and thanks for the supportive comments...

Tom

Patsi...

David Cay Johnston is preaching to the choir with me, but yes...the facts in Free Lunch are truly disgusting! It took a while to get this book from my local library, so maybe I'll go ahead and request Perfectly Legal. Maybe I'll get it about the time I finish Free Lunch.... If you read it sooner than me, let me know what you think, please.

Jamie, it's basically protein only.. Doctor is testing my blood regularly... I will ask about Gluten intolerance, thanks.

James Carville was very good today. He expressed affection for Senator Casey calling him a friend and an honorable man.

He made it very clear he doesn't feel the same about
Bill Richardson.

Great going James...

I'm off for a couple hours on Hillary sign waving in the rain..

Okay, I'm just checking to see if all of our Hillary fans have sworn off Hardball. I came home from work in time to hear Chris Matthews jump all over a young lady on his show for repeating some anti-Barack information without having a creditable source. Chris acknowledged that she's new to the show, but she shouldn't "put things out there" to the country if she can't tell the viewers what the source is.

I had the feeling Chris would have been delighted if she blamed the Clinton camp, and wouldn't bother to push her any further if she had come up with that answer. Similarly, I figured that any anti-Hillary news would have been welcomed and jumped on by Mr. Matthews, and he wouldn't have had to ask, "Who's pushing that news?" because he would have already been aware of it.

I haven't had time to see how the campaign wars have been going today on C-List, but want to be clear I still call myself impartial between Senators Clinton and Obama. I'll confess to being more aware of anti-Hillary reporting than slanted attacks on Senator Obama.

hard to be any more blatant than that Tanya Harding bit of business......

NEW THREAD

He's a self appointed expert, cantankerous, obnoxious and he's back! How embarrassing it must be to come creeping back to this blog after the BIG OVER & OUT POST.

You won't have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore!