A Democratic Conclave?

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Produced by CQ's Andrew Satter

Craig at the Virginia Festival of the Book
Saturday (3/29) 2:00 PM EST
Barnes & Noble, 1035A Emmet Street
Charlottesville, VA  (434) 984-0461

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  1. I'm not a big fan of the convention concept. I disagree that we are too weak to handle a contest to the convention.

    One thing I've learned along the way is that conventional wisdom is often conventional , but often is unwise.

    I'm not the least bit bothered by a robust contest. In the end we will select one candidate. It might even be the two who are running now. On the other hand...

    Posted by: Oregon Democrat | March 25, 2008 12:10 AM

  2. Great Trail Mix.

    Very clever and Cardinal Nancy LOL -would she be wearing robes by armani?

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 12:25 AM

  3. Rez....I really do have to toddle now...but talk to me about Haskell Inst!tute I was such a fan!

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 12:25 AM

  4. One last thought....I think that with all the talk about what can or cannot be said, no arguing, no contention...what we should all do is start posting recipes and rose growing tips.

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 12:37 AM

  5. Good idea. Someone's got his thinking mitre on this time.

    Posted by: Ivy Green | March 25, 2008 12:37 AM

  6. Love it, Craig! What a hoot. *L*

    tt

    Posted by: tiptoe Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 12:44 AM

  7. Patsi,
    I posted some replies on previous blog
    Later

    Posted by: Rezdog Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 12:46 AM

  8. Craig:

    Bravo! Very entertaining ... but Pelosi's tahitian pearls may clash with the red cardinal hat.

    Posted by: GAKaren Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 12:50 AM

  9. I'm hearing that Jewish and Israeli folks are not liking Obama. Am wondering if this is true.

    tt

    Posted by: tiptoe Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 12:55 AM

  10. "my brother went to Haskell Institute in 60-62,
    small world"

    Wow -- Rez...that's fantastic! That was some team...does your brother remember the Tourney of Champs? We were the Sublette Larks, a town of 1300, and called the Cinderella Team by the KC Star.

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 12:55 AM

  11. Oh shoot! Too late! I am not trying to throw cold water on this very cool video, but I was going to ask Flatus if this was an original thought, or was it a bit of copy-catting, if not downright plagiarism. Last week Bernard McGuirk , producer or WABC's Imus In The Morning, suggested a College of Cardinals to elect a governor of New York, after Governor Paterson started dropping bombs of his many extra-marital affairs, and then threw his wife under the bus when he basically said 'she started it!'.
    Don Imus provided the impetus for McGuirk's remarks when he brought up a comparison to when Pope John Paul died after something like a month as Pope, and John Paul II was elected by the College of Cardinals.
    And while a Super Delegate Convention makes sense, HRC and her campaign would never agree to it. As you told nash, Craig, HRC will fight all the way to September instead.
    Now, I want to hear Dr. Dean's thoughts on this matter.

    Posted by: Dexter Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 1:29 AM

  12. Heather,

    If you are hanging your hopes on Joba Chamberlain, Kyle Farnsworth and the rest of that ghastly pitching staff, you're gonna be in for a long year darling...As a Sox fan, the Blue Jays and the Rays will hit a ton and have decent pitching.

    The Tigers have a ridiculously strong lineup and they have better arms than both the Sox and Yanks...The Angels and Mariners both look good...I would not be shocked if either the Bosox or Yankees missed the playoffs this year...it seems the injury bug is already biting hard...

    Someone asked where I live to be hitting balls on the range...I live in Fort Worth, TX. I played in a charity golf tourney...it was 70...I am sore as hell

    Posted by: Bear Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 1:33 AM

  13. Corey: Kwame Kilpatrick is indicted, and facing 10 to 15 in prison for perjury, but he won't cop a plea and wants to go to trial, when the prosecution has audio tapes clearly spelling out the perjury? The man got a death wish or sumthin'?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Rebel Ren and all baseball fans, including Corey, EdVB, bear, and anyone else, here's the psalm the great Tiger broadcaster Ernie Harwell used to usher in the first Spring Training game of the season, for many years:
    "For, lo, the winter is past,

    The rain is over and gone;

    The flowers appear on the earth;

    The time of the singing of birds is come,

    And the voice of the turtle is heard in our land."

    Posted by: Dexter Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 1:38 AM

  14. Excellent job Craig - Love it. Send it to the DNC..

    Julie

    Posted by: Julie-Young73 | March 25, 2008 1:40 AM

  15. bear: Boston is the team more affected than any other by injuries this Spring. Beckett is in Florida, not Japan, working out the kinks in his back, but is not close to being ready. Schilling is out, too. Ouch! Pedroia was injured, too, this Spring. On the plus side, Manny and Big Papi both lost body fat and are in the best shape of their lives.
    Tigers? AWESOME prospects for 2008. I was really saddened to read where Curtis Granderson will miss maybe a month now. Brandon Inge quit lifting weights and has stretched his muscles out and is ready to take over in center until Granderso returns.
    The White have a Cabrera, now, too...and he will help them improve ,as he is a great shortstop.
    I am so happy Detroit also got a great ss, Renteria.
    It's gonna be a KILLUH season!!!

    Posted by: Dexter Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 1:48 AM

  16. Yes we can!

    Posted by: warren | March 25, 2008 1:55 AM

  17. And my TV reviews:
    JOHN ADAMS on HBO. FANTASTIC! Last night's episode , in which Adams travelled to Paris to arrange a meet with King Louis was a hoot!
    Tom Wilkinson as Ben Franklin is great! Poor John Adams...a fish out of water in France, can't accomplish a damn thing, and Ben Franklin is having a blast. "Oh, to be 70 again", he says.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    BUSH's WAR on public tv stations:

    To us who followed it from 9-11 to The Surge, little new is revealed, but the rapid-fire interviews are great...this is mesmerizing television, and available to view at pbs dot org.
    I highly recommend both these shows, especially see Paul Giammatti as John Adams. Great stuff, all.

    Posted by: Dexter Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 1:58 AM

  18. btw, Heather - I have been a Yankees fan since the days of Mattingly and Winfield.

    Always a fan of the Classics...

    Posted by: warren | March 25, 2008 1:58 AM

  19. If it was up to me - I say we let the people decide this thing. They have been doing a good job so far!!

    Posted by: warren | March 25, 2008 2:00 AM

  20. Sanctimony..this is why this lifelong Democrat, wil find it difficult to vote for Barack Obama.

    Posted by: Oregon Democrat | March 25, 2008 2:14 AM

  21. Listen to the WHOLE song (why not)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtkVGClqrT4

    CHANGE remains the same:

    http://www.dailykos.com/user/Warrentowers13

    Posted by: warren | March 25, 2008 2:18 AM

  22. tt: A friend sent me this link ... don't know if this helps with your question but I thought it was a nice article.

    http://thejewishweek.com/viewArticle/c55_a5420/Editorial__Opinion/Opinion.html

    Dexter et. al: HBO's John Adams is awesome. I was afraid it would be boring. So far so good. LOL

    Posted by: GAKaren Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 2:20 AM

  23. music interlude:

    Clapton and Dr. John, "St. James Infirmary"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJA21UmUquI

    Posted by: Dexter Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 2:27 AM

  24. Thank you and good night.

    Posted by: warren | March 25, 2008 2:30 AM

  25. ...didja hear the one about the pilot who fired a weapon during a flight to Charlotte?

    It was just a matter of time. What next?

    Posted by: Dexter Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 2:49 AM

  26. Dear Craig , Everyone I bid you all a Good Morning

    First Craig I loved the video it was great! you just left out the incense and the alleluia choir :-)) just kidding and my compliments to Andrew Satter who did a great job with you but of course Craig you are the start,. I hope CQ provides you with your own trailer, entourage and security lol. [just kidding Craig]

    Warren I knew God blessed me with a reason to like you a lot!

    Bear Bear Bear lol my lovable Bear i'm laughing as I drink my coffee the Yankee Pitching ghastly thats funny we will have a talk about that at the all-star break when Joba may be the starting pitcher :-))

    love you all!

    --Heather

    Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 5:57 AM

  27. Dear Craig , Everyone I bid you all a Good Morning

    First Craig I loved the video it was great! you just left out the incense and the alleluia choir :-)) just kidding and my compliments to Andrew Satter who did a great job with you but of course Craig you are the start,. I hope CQ provides you with your own trailer, entourage and security lol. [just kidding Craig]

    Warren I knew God blessed me with a reason to like you a lot!

    Bear Bear Bear lol my lovable Bear i'm laughing as I drink my coffee the Yankee Pitching ghastly thats funny we will have a talk about that at the all-star break when Joba may be the starting pitcher :-))

    love you all!

    --Heather

    Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 5:58 AM

  28. ooops sorry that went twice I thought i was d/c

    --Heather

    Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 6:00 AM

  29. " But just why is it that we so strongly believe that Senator Obama has a message of hope and a new kind of politics? In the preface of his book The Audacity of Hope which he patterned after a sermon of his spiritual mentor, Jeremiah Wright, Obama gives us a glimmer of an answer.

    Audacity of Hype

    “I am new enough on the national political scene that I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views. As such, I am bound to disappoint some, if not all, of them.”

    You see, Senator Obama believes that if enough people project their views of what he should be onto him that he will be able to take advantage of their ignorance and become elected to the highest office of the most powerful nation on earth. That is the more subtle message to what Obama states plainly. But he won’t tell you that because doing so would cause you to wake up and realize that he is just taking advantage of your hope and your faith in him to hoodwink you into giving him the reins to power."

    http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/24/the-shape-of-things-to-come/#more-1920


    Posted by: GORDO | March 25, 2008 6:34 AM

  30. LOL

    For the past weeks I have listened and enjoyed the pundits yet again and again and again.
    these poor people, have totally no sense e of what is going on in the real world.
    They continuously write Hillary off and try to influence the public with their mantra: Hillary can never win this nomination. Our beloved Barrack, has continuously did the same.
    My question is: If she is written off completely, why is everyone still hassling her? Why has Team barrack launched a full assault on Hillary? Can someone please explain....

    Pfffffff.

    Barrack, knows that he is slipping majorly, and he knows that probably he has to d whatever he has in his tank to try to stay close (eventhough he has the current lead)
    But why isn´t the media picking up on the full assault that Barrack has launched/ Or is it only valid if it come from a female?

    Alas,
    I am enjoying every bit of this. Enjoying the way the DNC is making a spectacle of themselves, and blaming Hillary.
    Enjoying how people like Nancy Pelosi (who by Gods grace has received a step) is trying to manipulate) and enjoying how pundits make themselves as unpopular and non valued as ever!

    The only problem I have is that it will take another hundred years for another black person to ever become the president of the USA and that to me is a sad story, seen as I am a black man!

    I wished that Barrack had stayed his course, not accepted endorsements form Kennedy's, Kerry, Richardson etc... and made way for Hillary. he would have been unstoppable a few years down the road, instead he chose for the immediate spotlight and will now dwindle into obscurity.

    Sad!

    The only thing Hillary needs to do is hold on. Barrack´s party is about over, and he may well plan his concession speach. This one is Hillary´s...... even if all MSM will continuously try to attack.

    Can I get an AMEN?

    Posted by: Jason | March 25, 2008 6:58 AM

  31. Dexter

    I channel with Imus, but didn't here that segment...sounds like it might have been interesting.

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 7:01 AM

  32. I concur with your evaluation.

    (typical white guy's "amen")

    Posted by: sturgeone | March 25, 2008 7:06 AM

  33. Just watched the video. Truly well done!! Makes up for DirecTV's satellite not functioning properly this morning--no Imus and no bunch of other channels.

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 7:09 AM

  34. you can access Imus on line at wabc radio dotcom.....

    Posted by: sturgeone | March 25, 2008 7:11 AM

  35. good morning gang.....

    Craig..... another great video!
    especially loved the hat on Dean that's too small.....

    Dex, Bear...... GO RED SOX!
    (although DiceK isn't doing so good in the opener in Japan at this moment)

    gotta go run my father over to the VA..... will be gone until sometime in the afternoon.... don't beat each other up too much while I'm gone......

    Posted by: RebelliousRenee Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 7:19 AM

  36. General McPeak gained traction during the Reagan years. I don't think any of the active duty people were thrilled when he became chief of staff.

    He tried to reinvent the AF doing really stupid (and costly for the troops) like making uniform changes that gave the officer's stripes on their uniform sleeves like the Navy has.

    Everyone gave a collective sigh of relief when his term was up.

    I only saw him once, he was commanding the 20 TFW at Upper Heyford in the U.K.. We were conducting a practice operational readiness inspection of the 20th. My impression was that he was in the lower half, in the battle staff environment, of wing commanders that I observed over the years.

    For those of us who remember the McCarthy hearings, I think we can agree that Bill Clinton is no Joe McCarthy. (Thank you Senator Lloyd Bentsen!)

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 7:23 AM

  37. Imus--Thank you Sturgeone

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 7:29 AM

  38. Cspan is addressing some plan to stop the demo madness.....it's on until 8 AM

    Posted by: sturgeone | March 25, 2008 7:36 AM

  39. Heather, just saw your post from last night about Yankees-Royals! Those three losses in a row in the playoffs are part of what made 1980 so sweet when our turn finally arrived!

    http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/03/a-superdelegate-mini-conventio.html#comment-57740

    Posted by: LardassLiberal Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 7:39 AM

  40. This is a link to "TalkStreamLive" - Imus and much more.

    http://www.talkstreamlive.com/

    Posted by: GORDO | March 25, 2008 7:43 AM

  41. Gov Philip Bredesen D-Tn.......at present uncommitted....."the super delegates job is exactly to assess 'electability' "........

    "Take this thing off auto pilot....."


    Posted by: sturgeone | March 25, 2008 7:46 AM

  42. Dexter,

    I wouldn't get too much farther into that beautiful bit of imagery. Once past the turtledoves things get pretty x rated or at least as x as the bible gets.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 7:53 AM

  43. Craig,

    You should run that video past Imus. If it was a case of great minds having a single thought (Flatus and McGurk) then getting it on TV could make it go viral.

    Anyway, it was fun and certainly possible once the primaries are past in June.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 7:55 AM

  44. This is the only fairly recent commentary on the Jewish vote which is not as monolithic as it once was but has a heavier turn out than other groups

    Hillary Clinton won the Ohio and Texas primaries Tuesday with the support of most Jewish voters, polls showed. Jews comprise only 1.3 percent of Ohio’s population but their “proven practice of going to the polls in greater numbers than other demographic groups makes them an important voting block for candidates who are locked in tight races,” according to Zogby polling company director Fritz Wencel.

    Sen. Clinton has won the Jewish vote in every primary to date except for Connecticut, Massachusetts and California, where Jews backed Sen. Barack Obama.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 8:01 AM

  45. This is My Personal Open Op-Ed

    This comes from my own heart and feelings on Race in America:

    I will begin with Jessie Jackson who in my opinion is, and has been a cancer on African Americans for decades. I can hear the gasps, goodness is Heather racist? No! Not at all. But Jessie Jackson is.

    This is a man that has done nothing but profit of the suffering and misery of his own people. He has taught Black America to be dependent, to be angry, and played the culture of African American Slavery in America like a Master Violinist on Stradivarius, the melody is of white liberal guilt

    Which brings me to the mess that we have in the Democratic party with super-delegates we have today. Jessie Jackson was basically a sore loser in in the 1988 primaries so he invented this scheme of proportional congressional voting that assigned X amount of delegates by congressional districts. Jackson tried to tie this into minorities getting proper representation and therefore racist, sadly the powers that be bought this lie. In my heart I honestly believe Jackson laid this out not so much for minorities but for himself so he could have an advantage for a future run. Jessie Jackson always does whats in his own best interest.

    If you want an accurate and honest name for this proportional delegate nonsense try Affirmative Action Voting and like other forms of Affirmative Action currently, it has led to a disaster and created a big mess, this is what happens when extreme left radicals are allowed to hijack the Democratic Party.

    It's time we stop listening to the Jessie Jackson/Al Sharpton /Barack Obama cabal, they do not speak for all African Americans. We need to stop seeing Black America as a monolith aligned with the Jackson cabal, it is simply not true.

    If America wants to break the chains of enslavement then they need to start listening to the Harold Ford Jr.'s Ward Connerly's, Shelby Steele's and Larry Elder's etc. These are prominent African American's that have served their community and America well, far better than the Jackson/Sharpton cabal

    They have taught African Americans that they need not be dependent but independent. Sadly the American media elitists ignore them for fear of being labeled racists, the liberal extreme left African American radicals ostracize them as "uncle tom's" . Why? the Answer is simple, the Jessie Jackson's and Al Sharpton's will lose their power, they are the true racists they want their people enslaved

    1. They profit from it
    2. It provides fodder to perpetuate hatred and race warfare
    3. It provides fodder for the Black Separatist movement for radicals like Pastor Wright

    If any race or minority wants to be emancipated it must learn to compete on merit, hard work, honesty, and a good moral code of character. When you win on those terms and overcame obstacles along the way it makes your achievement that much more precious a victory that one can say was truly earned not given. A victory a person of any race color or creed and take pride in, that is also a victory people can respect.

    This is what will create and cause racial egalitarianism, harmony and mutual respect for people of all races in this great Democratic Racial Melting Pot we can call America with love pride and honor.

    Yes there are racists and racist organizations but Thank God it is the exception and not the rule
    When we see racism we must confront it, we have a moral and Christian obligation to do so and if we fail to do so we have condoned it by our failure to act upon it.

    We need to have a great nation where people of all races compete as equals and the bond of mutual respect for each other is the common heritage we all share regardless of race color or creed

    Once Affirmative Action was needed but now the true blessing is that those days are gone. Its time for all of God's races to blossom and grow.


    Just my opinion
    Thank you
    Sincerely,
    Heather

    Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 8:04 AM

  46. For all David Paterson's considerable charm and wit, his managerial style has been described by Democratic insiders as "jazz government." He is not into discipline. He's no good at firing people. His greatest political talent seems to be being in the right place at the right time.
    http://www.observer.com/2008/gov-patersons-main-man-former-jesuit-natural-politician-charles-obyrne

    jazz government and now he admits to using cocaine and marijuana..

    Obama campaign accuses Paterson of being a racist


    Posted by: The Real Thing | March 25, 2008 8:06 AM

  47. Mornin' All!!! Morning Joe is in Tallahassee today and speaking to the Restaurant Association. I shall report how it was this afternoon, just in case you are missing him this week, LOL!

    Posted by: JennBe Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 8:08 AM

  48. A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.
    ---Friedrich Nietzsche

    Posted by: sturgeone | March 25, 2008 8:21 AM

  49. Goodness MSNBO (Mika and Matthews) are desperate to spin the race for Obama. They are tiresome.

    Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 8:21 AM

  50. BTW - the Video Trailmix is an instant classic I think.

    Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 8:22 AM

  51. Heather,

    You write really well and might truly enjoy a blog. If you go here, they will walk you through

    https://www.blogger.com/start

    You will need a Google account first if you don't already have one.

    https://www.google.com/accounts/NewAccount

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 8:26 AM

  52. Dear Wendy,
    Good morning and you are so right!
    Tiresome is the word constant Hillary bashing 24/7 on MSNBC

    Sincerely,
    Heather

    Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 8:27 AM

  53. Posted by: Bloggy Goodness | March 25, 2008 8:30 AM

  54. Mika is being more outrageous than usual. My favorite was when she asked a question, didn't get an answer she liked and gasped out "REALLY?". Tweety is just feeding off of her and Willie looks like he wants to hide.

    How MSNBC can have anyone on who is so totally partisan trying to fake balance is beyond me, but at least her stupidity has finally gotten to the level of shaking head in disbelief.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 8:31 AM

  55. Didn't know. I now have Heather on my Trailmixers blog roll.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 8:35 AM

  56. Yea, i came downstairs to see what Craig had to say - knowing full well that it would be much more interesting and insightful than anything that crew was talking about.

    Did Mika really try to say Hillary's misstatement about Bosnia is equal to Obama's Wright problem? Yes, Hillary was puffin' her adventures around the world up and got caught...it was a funny blunder...but that does not equate to the Wright problem.

    There is the 20 years in a separatist church, then there is lying about what he heard while in the pew at the separatist church, then there is the fact that it is just another in a long line of questionable relationships/friendships.

    Rev. Wright v. Hillary's "Big Fish" story . . . not even close.

    And nobody really believe Matthews is as "concerned" as he's trying to portray himself.

    Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 8:44 AM

  57. As I said yesterday Lou Dobbs fat f--k and concern troll for the middle class is the biggest jerk on tv and he soldiers on to keep that title.

    Dobbs asked if Obama is "pandering to ethnocentric special interests again" by accepting Richardson's endorsement
    Summary: Lou Dobbs introduced the March 21 edition of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight by announcing: "Tonight, Senator [Barack] Obama wins the endorsement of the nation's only Hispanic governor, Bill Richardson. Is Obama pandering to ethnocentric special interests again? We'll have complete coverage." The subsequent report included no discussion of whether Obama is "pandering to ethnocentric special interests."

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200803240009

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 8:44 AM

  58. Dear Jamie:
    Thank you so much for your kind compliment.
    I do have a blog @ blogger, I haven't kept up with it lately Blogging there feels so lonely no one ever goes there so I felt its just not logical to devote so much time and energy to it.

    You really need a cult or loyal following to have a blog.
    In any event my link to it is in Craig's blogroll

    Sincerely,
    Heather

    Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 8:47 AM

  59. Clinton embellishes her war story (hello Ollie North) and Obama lies about his relationship to Rezko but according to pasty puffy white guy Tweety Hussein Matthews she has a problem

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 8:47 AM

  60. The teaser for the story was disingenuous though.

    The one thing you have to give Dobbs credit for on that report is that when the guy said the speech did Obama some good because Richardson endorsed him for it...he said, "Do you really believe it was because of the speech? Do you really believe it was because of the speech?" I like that he called Richardson out.

    He does also make a good point about divisive politics.

    Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 8:54 AM

  61. KGC

    I'm glad I'm not the only one that found that ridiculous.

    Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 8:56 AM

  62. Wendy

    Lou Dobbs is such a disgusting reprehensible fake journalist to find anything worthwhile you have to pick through a load of garbage,...simply not worth it to find the occasional nuget of truth. His role in the Nancy P fake plane story is a perfect example. Even when presented with the evidence the story was totally false he refused to correct himself and kept repeating the story. He should have been fired and as I said yesterday it is a pretty sad statement when Wolfe Blitzer is the best your network has to offer.

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 9:02 AM

  63. Hmmmmm

    Heather....Interesting.

    I do not agree with everything, but I do agree with teh fact that people like Jesse, Al, Barrack etc do not speak for this black man!

    I listen to the voice within and will not be bound or tangled by race or colour, eventhough I fully support my race.
    I think with this election we are shown yet again that people will continuously grab the race card when it benefits them. They do not care if they have to use it, re-use and recycle it, als long as it gves them their due!

    sad.

    I am not bound as I say however...

    Anyway,
    I will continue to read and assess...

    Proud black us citizen living abroad and supporting Hillary

    Posted by: Jason | March 25, 2008 9:02 AM

  64. OK

    If CNN , MSNBC, FOX are no networks to watch, where should the general unbiased public get their stories?
    Which MSM is unbiased in your opinions (this is an honest question)

    I am an american citizen and living abraod, so I get different news.... which is (let me say it delicately) rather unbiased.

    ps: I love the way Wolf Blitzer continuously refers to the best political team on TV on CNN international. You have to be quite in awe of yourself to constantly flatter yourself that way. GET A LIFE Wolf! LMPO

    Posted by: Jason | March 25, 2008 9:06 AM

  65. Mornin' all.

    JennBe, it's a good thing for you that you're a republican - it would be a shame to go to a restaurant association meeting and not be able to stomach the food because of the speaker. And btw, I really am just kidding.

    Heather, I won't argue about the racial aspects of your editorial - racism is certainly not hard to find by turning a few rocks over, and IMHO it can be found pretty much wherever you care to look. And Rev. Jackson - well, he's a flawed vessel, but I don't condemn him to the extent you do.

    As to the proportional delegate system and the Jackson Rules from '88, I'm a little fuzzy on this, but my recollection is that before the '88 reforms, the dems had a system that based delegate apportionment on taking the highest number of electoral districts, and it would be entirely possible for a candidate to win a state's delegates with a much lower percentage of the popular vote yet get a much higher number of pledged delegates. Someone maybe can help me out on this. If that is the case, it seems to me that while messy, the current system is more democratic than the old system. I think that in principle, proportional election of delegates is the only democratic approach - the issue is on what level should it operate? Options could be by county, by congressional district (based either on state or national districts), by state, or nationally. Obviously, the national level is unworkable although it would be arguably the most democratic option.

    I don't see the problem as proportional delegate apportionment conceptually, but rather the ridiculous application of it as has been demonstrated in this primary season, combined with the uncertainty introduced into the system by the super delegates.

    Then again, there was no 24 hour news cycle in '88, and I wasn't reading major newsapers on a daily basis, so I didn't keep up as closely as we do now, so as I said my understanding of the process before and after '88 is fuzzy.

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 9:09 AM

  66. KGC

    You make a good point...I don't really know enough about him because I don't watch his shown...I never watched it regularly anyway but it seemed like every time I happened to land on it he was bangin' on Hispanics so I don't really bother to watch.

    Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 9:12 AM

  67. Wendy

    Exactly. My view of the media in general for Democrats is like we all have Stockholm syndrome
    and are just happy when some little tidbit of truth comes our way.

    The truth is the msm stinks. They are nothing more then a pr agency for the Republicans (and the status quo) I urge people to find Democracy Now either on line or on tv. Link TV also does some good shows,.

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 9:19 AM

  68. Heather,

    If the Yankees need to make Joba a starter this year, that will be the first major sign they are throwing in the towel on the season. They should learn from what the Sox did with Papplebon and keep him in the bullpen...

    Am I the only one who thinks maybe it's a little too personal for Carville with this Judas thing...anyone want to bet that maybe Bill tried a little grab ass with Mary Magdelin...err Matalin?

    Posted by: Bear Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 9:20 AM

  69. jason - in what country abroad do you live?

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 9:20 AM

  70. James Carville would be greatful if anyone would grab at the frozen face of the Republican Party,.

    He go her as used goods --she prances around on the low moral ground as a divorced Catholic and I'll betthis marriage is buyer's remorse on sterioids

    or every lie she tells there is less movement in her face
    by the end of the year, she won't have a facial movement at all

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 9:26 AM

  71. Dear Pogo:
    You make some valid points and when you say it is a more democratic system, in some ways it is, in others it is not. When you look at it as a formula of representational voting I guess you can make a valid argument that it is democratic.

    Now when you look at the larger picture it is hardly more democratic. It has lead to race bating, racial disharmony and created a racial divide among the masses. Many voting according to race or racial issues. Ultimately this will lead to a super-delegate showdown at the convention no matter which decision they make one race or the other will feel racially disenfranchised.

    Instead of melding the races together it will create the opposite effect, I fear that the races may become more polarized as a result.

    We need unity not division unfortunately this will not be the result after the convention This is why I say its not more democratic.

    Somewhere along the line great minds will have to unite to resolve this open wound on the democratic party with a resolution that will be one of strength and unity that will strengthen and preserve the Democratic Party and the democratic process.

    Sincerely
    Heather

    Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 9:28 AM

  72. MANRAM...4 RBI!!!

    I'm jealous, I have family living in Tokyo and they took of school to go to the game today...

    Btw Heather,

    It's comforting to be able to talk baseball with a woman...proves there is hope for the fairer sex yet...lol

    Yes, I am kidding...

    It's a good thing that Hank Steinbrenner is running the team so we have someone to hate again...as a baseball fan, I love Jeter, unless he's hitting in a clutch spot, Matsui is great to watch, if I wanted to teach someone the game, I would make them watch the 98 Yankees...Paul O'Neil was a stud and that team was just heaven to watch...

    Posted by: Bear Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 9:31 AM

  73. Found an article that talks about the Obama campaign open to negotiations on Florida and MI.

    http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/elections/article429960.ece

    Interesting read.

    Posted by: JennBe Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 9:32 AM

  74. Dear Jason:
    Thank you for your response
    It is duly appreciated
    Sincerely,
    Heather

    Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 9:32 AM

  75. Heather,

    Try doing a regular meme and start visiting the people who participate. It really builds up traffic to your site. I do Manic Monday http://morgenfiles.blogspot.com/ simply because it is fun and a good writing challenge but there are scads of them out there and just once a week going through the participants' blog roll can really get you going.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 9:41 AM

  76. Found an article that talks about the Obama campaign open to negotiations on Florida and MI

    that's a joke Either the votes count or they don't.
    This is just Obama's reacharound.

    I wouldn't want to vote an then have someone else decide who I really voted for. He knows he is a big fat hypocite and is just trying to spin it.

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 9:43 AM

  77. Everyone embellishes their adventures a bit and I'm sure Sen. Clinton probably took the sound of gunfire and turned it into an EVENT. So something that happened ten years ago is not exactly earth shaking. Of course, the media wants to turn this into a huge ethical flaw on her part.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 9:43 AM

  78. Jamie

    I had a martini last night made with Hendricks gin
    mighty tasty It wasn't what I expected at all but really good,

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 9:53 AM

  79. Bear wrote: "anyone want to bet that maybe Bill tried a little grab ass with Mary Magdelin"

    To clarify...you mean Richardson right?

    ROFL

    ;-)

    What is it with those Bills

    Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 9:54 AM

  80. Back from another session with the doctor. Gotta give my brain a few minutes to recover. Here is a animated cartoon of Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick. Enjoy!

    http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080325/BLOG2401/80325010

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 9:56 AM

  81. Jason

    For World News http://news.bbc.co.uk/

    For US News try BBC America. You can't watch full shows on line, but you can watch the major interviews

    http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/300/index.jsp

    As long as you take their bias into account then CBS and CNN are probably the best overall American outlets

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 9:57 AM

  82. Pogo, I am in the Netherlands

    Posted by: Jason | March 25, 2008 9:57 AM

  83. Heather -- I have mixed feelings about Jesse. Sometimes I think he has been an excellent advocate for black issues, and other time a disaster. Mainly, I wonder how he and Sharpton became the spokesmen for their race. There are so many people I'd rather hear address race issues, Maxine Waters for one. And she can be a firebrand when it's needed....in case anyone thinks I'm looking for an Uncle Tomasina....

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 9:57 AM

  84. Pogo, I am in the Netherlands for two years

    Posted by: Jason | March 25, 2008 9:58 AM

  85. Tweety has certainly gotten a pass on his outrageous statement yesterday about the Clintons:

    "4,000 people are dead now because of decisions made by politicians like the Clintons"

    Where are the news directors? Is there anybody in upper-management in MSNBC with any moral compass?

    Scratch that question...the answer is obvious.

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 9:58 AM

  86. Heather, I certainly can't argue that the process this time around has not been along racial lines. It has, and almost to a ridiculous degree. I don't attribute it as much to the system as I do to black americans having for the first time a candidate who is not only viable, but is a real contender for the ultimate prize. Jackson tried to build his rainbow coalition, but saw existing rules work against him. To an extent, you are correct about the way the current rules work - a look at the county maps versus the delegate apportionment in states such as MIssouri, where Obama won 5 counties total but split the delegate votes with Clinton is instructive.

    And I absolutely agree with your 9:28 post..

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:00 AM

  87. Pogo, I am in the Netherlands for two years
    Jason
    Welcome

    If I lived there I would weigh two thousand pounds


    pucinni koffie bonbons and french fries not too mention gin, cheese and beer

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:02 AM

  88. Jennbe

    Sen. Clinton won Florida by 17 points and the Obama team thinks a 50/50 split is "fair".... In other words don't count the way it happened but the way we wish it had happened without changing the count at all.

    Now I could understand reducing the number of delegates as a form of punishment, but the total votes and delegate percentages should hold or it is just plain silly.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:03 AM

  89. God, KGC -- I have either been up too long writing (since 3:00 am) OR I am becoming a lush. Your talking about a martini made me want one.

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:06 AM

  90. I love the Hendrick's website.

    http://www.hendricksgin.com/us/about/index.asp

    It is funny. I haven't tried it, but it sounds interesting with an infusion of cucumber (?)

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:07 AM

  91. Do click on the above link even if you have no interest in gin. It's worth it for the bowler and bumbershoot match. :-)

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:08 AM

  92. Jason - that's one place I've never been, but just this past weekend I planted some bulbs from there. (and planting bulbs in the spring probably explains why I have no luck at all with them. lol) My impression of the Netherlands is pretty positive. How do you find it there?

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:08 AM

  93. I'm so glad Jamie and Heather found each other. I bet the cross burning/coffee klatches are a lot of fun.

    Posted by: Brian Hussein In NYC Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:09 AM

  94. Patsi, please stop refferring to Al and Jesse as spokespeople for our race!
    The are NOT, i repeat NOT!
    The spokespeople for the black community are the ones who work their asses off and make a living without complaining. They are....
    I hate it that these peole profile themselves as frontrunners and torch bearers for the black race, and the media just happens to go along with them!

    I am so happy that these people have backed away from Clinton. It is the establishment that is old and tired, that is backing Barrack.
    Who was talking about change and is now being backed by the establishment.......?????

    Sorry for getting angry, but I am always getting upset when people say that aforementioned individuals are ours spokespersons...PLEASE....

    @Patsi: This is not personally intended....

    Posted by: Jason | March 25, 2008 10:11 AM

  95. I thought you left , Brian?

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:11 AM

  96. Dear Bear!!!!

    You are absolutely correct the '98 Yankees were a team that could be put on auto pilot and could run themselves and you proved my theory for me, that being that Joe Torre was far overrated as a manager.

    Before he came to the Yankees he was a mediocre manager at best. He was not very good at handling pitchers. [surprising in that he played catcher]

    I was not in love with the idea that he was a "player's manager" I'm of the old school and believe in discipline and strong hard work ethics not soothing player's bruised egos.

    I'm more of the Billy Martin, Lou Pinella Earl Weaver style managers. Having said that sure you have to temper the "its my way or the highway" attitude with proper counseling my grandfather said Walter Alston was the best at that.

    Granted that Torre had more success in championships but that in part was due to George Steinbrenner, who in my humble opinion did what every owner should do, create the best possible team he or she can put on the field.

    Many media elites balk and say its all the Steinbrenn's fortune; unfair unfair.

    Rubbish! Marlins blow that theory out of the water. Besides Didn't Rupert Murdoch own the Dodgers in the largest media market, I can go on and on

    Many owners own teams for egos or tax dodges they are hardly dedicated to the excellence of a ball club.

    I believe in rewarding excellence not laziness or failure those are the same principles George Steinbrenner believes in and why the Yankees had great success under his ownership he took over a team that had failure written all over it when Dan Topping and Del Webb sold them to CBS who hated the Yankees and did nothing to improve them.

    Finally George Steinbrenner rescued the Yankees in '73 and steadily improved them to become contenders and finally W.S. champions in '78

    Steinbrenner had a strict military school background which served him and the Yankees well. He had the genius to make Gabe Paul the GM who created the nucleus for 77 / 78 Yankees

    When Torre makes the HOF he will have Steinbrenner in part to thank for it. I just hope Steinbrenner gets in as an owner, he earned it.

    In closing Bear, I think it would be interesting to see which team would be best '27, '61 '78 or '98 Yankees

    just my thoughts Bear,

    Sincerely,
    Heather

    Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:12 AM

  97. Kgc, should I send you an honorary diploma from the JennBe School of Typing? Yes,

    Jamie

    You don't really taste the cucumber but it is has a very fresh taste. If you get a chance try it. I'm not sure I would "invest" in a bottle as it's expensive but it was fun to try it.

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:14 AM

  98. Most of these "cardinals" are the same gutless fools in Congress who can't stand up to Bush and end the war. But THEY are going to pick the nominee?

    And of course they'll pick Clinton. That's the safe bet for cynical, corrupt establishment pols. The grass-roots energy swirling around Obama scares them.


    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:15 AM

  99. And what about George Costanza's contributions to the Yankees of the 90's???

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:15 AM

  100. Pogo/ KGC: The Netherlands are ok....
    Not all that glamorous, but a very down to earth country.. i have to say, not so hysterical as the US :))
    I am here to broaden my horizon and expand my knowledge (finance & economics) and it is very ok!

    Jamie: Did Barrack specifically say that he wants 50/50?

    I had a peak at the HRC website and found yet an interesting blog from Peter Daou: Three myths about the democratic race. Think it is quiet accurate

    Posted by: Jason | March 25, 2008 10:18 AM

  101. The grass-roots energy swirling around Obama scares them.


    Like the Tasmanian Devil
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Taz.png

    Posted by: WTF | March 25, 2008 10:19 AM

  102. Patsi

    Been up since 3am and now it;s about ten your time
    I think it is martini time for you :)

    I remember when people did drink (alot) at lunch.
    Now ...if you even think about a drink at lunch people are ready to cart you off to rehab

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:23 AM

  103. Nash

    "The grass-roots energy swirling around Obama scares them. "

    A 47/46 split in the national electorate is hardly a ground up landslide.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/105589/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Clinton-Back-Tie.aspx

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:26 AM

  104. Corey,

    He has to drop in once a day to call someone a racist. Yesterday was Craig's turn, today it's me and heather.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:27 AM

  105. Patsi, Jackson and Sharpton are two very different people and have historically represented very different issues in the black community (or at least appear that way to this middle aged white guy).

    Jackson's bona fides go back to his association with MLK - he was among the folks who tried to continue Martin's message, but at times got it garbled. I saw him back in the early 80s and was very favorably impressed-his was a message of inclusion and participation at that point.

    My impression of Sharpton is that he was a community preacher and organizer who stepped up to the microphone at every opportunity, and thanks to James Brown and Tawanna Brawley, got an ear nationally. His roots with Jackson go back to the late 60s,but he is, as they say, no Jesse Jackson. I always thought his presidential bid was an attempt to get his name out nationally so he could cash in with a tv show. I'm frankly surprised he didn't get a show on Fox - O'Reilly loves him.

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:27 AM

  106. Jason,

    Yes. They say it is a way to "seat the delegates" without honoring an "illegal" election. They said the same for Michigan.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:29 AM

  107. Jason

    thanks for mentining the Peter Daou column. It is quite good.

    here's a link
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-daou/three-myths-about-the-dem_b_93089.html

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:30 AM

  108. Jamie: This is exactly was talking to my husband about today. When Tweety goes on Morning Joe and starts ranting and raving like a lunatic that we need to stop talking about the Clintons, who cares about the Clintons, it's politicians like them who are responsible for Iraq blah blah blah and we need to look to the light, to the yellow, it's as if he feels he is addressing a few naysayers. How about half of the Democratic party? (And I question this...I think Hillary has the support of MOST Democrats...even if only by a small margin.)

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:30 AM

  109. nash,

    please email me at transcendingstatusquo@yahoo.com

    colleen

    Posted by: colleen Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:30 AM

  110. And I know...I need to stop watching MSNBC.

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:31 AM

  111. Pogo

    "Jackson's bona fides go back to his association with MLK - he was among the folks who tried to continue Martin's message, but at times got it garbled. I saw him back in the early 80s and was very favorably impressed-his was a message of inclusion and participation at that point. "

    Jackson just happened to be in the right place at the wrong horrible time. He built that into a national political reputation when the actual leaders who had worked closely with MLK simply went about their business with real programs and progress but didn't do a lot of self promotion.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:33 AM

  112. I went out for breakfast this morning. There were 2 couples sitting at a big table in the restaurant. All 4 people looked like they were 80 years-old. As I was about to order , I heard one of the women say "The saugsage links were tough last week! That's why I ordered bacon!" Thanks for the heads-up! Well this woman gets her bacon and says "It's all on top of each other!" The waitress walked by and the woman said "The bacon was cooked a lot more than we like it! It's hard!" I hope my life never gets to the point where I complain about mundane things like sausage links and bacon!

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:35 AM

  113. Ally,

    "I think Hillary has the support of MOST Democrats...even if only by a small margin"

    What I see happening is the media "selling" the American public on the idea that they are in the minority by backing Sen. Clinton. It is easy to get disheartened when all you hear from the news media is Barack, Barack, Barack.

    Congressman Ford is correct that if she can take a state that she isn't expected to get i.e. Indiana or NC then that could shift everything to her favor again.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:37 AM

  114. Jamie , someday I'll tell you the story of a woman named Miranda.

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:39 AM

  115. Corey,

    I bet she was crabby about little things when she was in her 20s. It just got worse as she aged. Basic personalities unless someone really works at being different just don't change that much.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:40 AM

  116. jamie, I don't disagree about Jackson - following MLK's death - but I did like him carrying forward MLK's much less confrontational message than the remnants of the much more radical messages from the 60s.

    Corey, I think you must have run across some of my dear departed family, come back to the physical world for breakfast.

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:49 AM

  117. As a former Energy Secretary in the Clinton Adminstration , this is a special project for a team co-chaired by Bill Richardson and James Carvelle.
    There must be one recommendation presented by June 5th.
    There must be a cease fire between the two warring tribes during the period of deliberation.
    Topic: Democrats Energy Crisis:- How to synchronize Pledged delegate power with Super delegate power.
    Project team: Bill Richardson, James Carvelle , Geraldine Ferraro , Claire McCaskill, Merrill McPeak , Mark Penn,Howard Wolfson , David Axelrod and Howard Dean.

    Posted by: George | March 25, 2008 10:54 AM

  118. Jamie: I believe it is the demographics of Hillary's support that provoke the idea of irrelevance in the media. Women (and men) over a certain age, LGBT, some who are less educated, some who are less economically advantaged etc. In other words, the members of our society who are invisible to our government are now invisible to the media as well...it's sad.

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:56 AM

  119. "It is the establishment that is old and tired, that is backing Barrack."

    Jason,

    And who might that be? It's sure not these youngsters, C. Rangel, Emanuel Cleaver II, S J Lee, Andrew Young, Robert Johnson to name few off the top of my head.

    Posted by: Rezdog Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:57 AM

  120. I just cannot see Jessie Jackson put in the same category as the great Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

    If I am wrong I will formally apologize I just see him as a profiteer off of the racial prejudice of African Americans just check Goldman Sachs, Coca Cola outside of Noah Robinson what other African Americans benefited from it?

    Jackson's Wall Street project earns several millions how does this benefit African Americans?

    Jackson got 2 million from Viacom how did this benefit African Americans?

    I'm not against Jackson or anyone getting wealthy. It is how he got that way that is wrong. I just cannot see profiteering off racial prejudice.

    I just have too much love and respect for Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. To associate him with Jessie Jackson or Al Sharpton

    I simply see those two as opportunists.

    --Heather

    Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:58 AM

  121. Pentagon: Missile parts sent to Taiwan in error
    Defense official says mistake 'disconcerting' and intolerable


    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23793653/

    Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:59 AM

  122. couple had a baby.....baby grew up and soon the couple noticed the child did not speak.....they took him to the Mayo Clinic, no success.....they took him to every speech therapist they could find....no luck....the child was mute.......he grew up without saying a word.....at the age of nine one morning after the mother set his breakfast in front of him he said, "This bacon is not crisp." The mother dropped her jaw and exclaimed, "You can talk! you can talk!" She called in the husband and said, "He can talk, he can talk....he spoke very plainly to me...." The husband asked the boy, "why have you not talked all this time, all these specialists....?" The boy said, "Up to now, everything's been ok."

    Posted by: sturgeone | March 25, 2008 11:00 AM

  123. "Few people end up being United States senators by accident; at a minimum, it requires a certain megalomania, a belief that of all the gifted people in your state, you are somehow uniquely qualified to speak on their behalf; a belief sufficiently strong that you are willing to endure the sometimes uplifting, occasionally harrowing, but always slightly ridiculous process we call campaigns."

    The Audacity of Hope at 104-05.

    (If you have not read it - make sure to put it on your summer reading list ; )

    Posted by: warren Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 11:00 AM

  124. Yes Ally that is true
    You need the gravitas of old white men to be considered a viable candidate

    Gary Hart, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy Tom Daschle,
    Bill Bradley. We are the face of the new generation of poliics. We do have some old men of color too just in case..

    Posted by: Old White Men | March 25, 2008 11:00 AM

  125. ally
    clinton is ahead in primaries only (not counting caucus's) by 254,000 votes
    obama has not won one closed primary (dem voting only)

    this info is on USA election polling and is posted on pollster.com

    Posted by: tz | March 25, 2008 11:01 AM

  126. Heather, oh, the Jackson of today is not the Jackson of the past, and I don't mean to equate him with MLK. MLK is just where his journey began. His runs for president put him on a different path, or at least coincided with that diversion. I think it would be interesting to hear Bear's and Jason's take on JJ & AS, and Alpha's if alpha was still around.. Their perspective would likely differ from mine or yours.

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 11:06 AM

  127. Heather:

    "I just have too much love and respect for Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. To associate him with Jessie Jackson or Al Sharpton."

    I agree. And also believe that Obama is a lot different the Jackson and Sharpton as well. Based on what I have heard, Obama has a much different perspective than those two. I also don't think either Jackson or Sharpton would disagree with the statement that they are not in the same league as Obama when it comes to politics.

    Posted by: warren Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 11:07 AM

  128. Milquetoast:

    (can't you choose an easier moniker?)

    "I am a D who will vote for McC."

    Go fly a kite (you should have seen what I originally had in here ; ). Unless you can give me some legitimate reasons - why you as a Democrat - would be voting for John McCain.

    Posted by: warren


    Warren: An Open Apology

    This was my first opportunity to post this.

    I will admit to one error in my posting. "I am and have always been a registered democrat", who supported democrats 95% of the time, and have NEVER VOTED for a REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE and have given my time and money "only to democrats." But I am at heart an independent so my posting should have read "I for McC and not "D for McC." and I am "sorry" for my posting error and to you personally. I could post "some legitimate reasons" why I cannot support Obama and prefer McCain but they would displease you greatly.


    Milquetoast (I not D)

    Posted by: Milquetoast (I not D) | March 25, 2008 11:07 AM

  129. I just pointed to the article because it was a different take than just "Obama is against any form of resolution in FL/MI." Me, personally, I'm in the camp that says the DNC and canidates made their bed and now they need lie in it.

    Well I'm off to downtown to see Joe, I hope they open it up to questions, I would love to be able to ask about the comments he made on Bill Maher a couple of weeks ago.

    Posted by: JennBe Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 11:08 AM

  130. tz: Makes sense to me.

    Posted by: Ally Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 11:08 AM

  131. ally
    here the link to that info

    http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/

    Posted by: tz | March 25, 2008 11:11 AM

  132. When we started the primary race - it was a contest for delegates.

    I am over engaging in what type of creative analysis gives Clinton a "victory."

    You can't change the rules in the middle of the game. Good luck Clintons on trying to convince the Super D's. Especially when your most loyal supporters have already pledged their vote.

    Since Feb. 5th - Super D's:

    Obama +48
    Clinton -5

    (Facts are stubborn things - just not as stubborn as the Clintons ; )

    Posted by: warren Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 11:12 AM

  133. sturg - LOL

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 11:13 AM

  134. Pogo, Heather

    My idea of a leader for both the AA and White community is Congressman Ford. That man can utter more good sense in one paragraph than the Rev. Jackson has uttered in 40 years.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 11:13 AM

  135. If Senator Clinton actually does manage to get the nomination, this is who she should pick for VP

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Ford,_Jr.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 11:14 AM

  136. Milquetoast:

    "I could post "some legitimate reasons" why I cannot support Obama and prefer McCain but they would displease you greatly."

    Try me.

    btw, I am a registered Independent who supports Obama.

    Posted by: warren Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 11:15 AM

  137. Corey reminded me of one of my favorite old jokes....one of those meant to be told as a real first person experience.....but it's all in the telling....so I just cut it short to the punch line....but try it in a bar some time........lol

    Posted by: sturgeone | March 25, 2008 11:16 AM

  138. Dear Jamie:
    hi5 girl!!!!!!!!!!!! I totally agree with you! :-))
    --Heather

    Posted by: Heather Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 11:16 AM

  139. Jamie:

    He certainly was auditioning last night. But I don't think she would ever do it. HRC would go with a safe pick - Rendell, Bayh, etc.

    Posted by: warren Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 11:17 AM

  140. remember super delagates are not set in stone ....they can change just like the weather ....they are pols and no pol is loyal to anybody case in point bill richardson

    Posted by: tz | March 25, 2008 11:17 AM

  141. btw, Harold Ford is no Barack Obama.

    (sorry Patsi....)

    Posted by: warren Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 11:18 AM

  142. jamie,
    HF,Jr. is indeed a good choice. I caught him on the tube last night (or was it Monday?) speaking in his role as DLC chair and he does make sense when he talks., particularly for such a whippersnapper. :-)

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 11:18 AM

  143. like the tennessee governor said on Cspan this morning, the Main and Only job of the superdelegate is to decide electability of the nominee in the general election.......end of story on the superdelegates.......they will be voting for someone who will win in November.
    Let them do their job and let the chips fall where they may........

    Posted by: sturgeone | March 25, 2008 11:21 AM

  144. sturg, you aren't suggesting that the superdelegates should follow the rules that apply to them rather than vote as they are told they should by the campaigns are you? What the hell kind of logic is that?;-)

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 11:25 AM

  145. "Harold Ford is no Barack Obama."

    Thank Goodness

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 11:25 AM

  146. People are getting into other people's sex lives, again.

    And those people are lying , again.

    Politics as usual.

    tt

    Posted by: tiptoe Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 11:26 AM

  147. I was born in a Logic cabin

    Posted by: sturgeone | March 25, 2008 11:26 AM

  148. I have been hoping for the "brown ticket" since before this race started: Obama/Richardson '08!!

    Sorry people - hope beats experience this year.

    Don't forget:

    -D. Cheney - 35 years of “experience,” Congress, VP, Sec. of Def. and Chief of Staff.
    -D. Rumsfeld - 13th and 21st Sec. of Defense, Congress and Ambassador to NATO.

    (and don't worry - the Clintons are part of the Democratic party and will support the Democratic candidate. They will also both play significant roles.)

    And I don't care the GOP is telling you now - Obama/Richardson is the only ticket that can beat McCain/Crist in FL. (Despite all this clamoring about disenfranchisement.)

    And McCain does not have a prayer in CA or NY.

    Posted by: warren Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 11:30 AM

  149. "Patsi, please stop refferring to Al and Jesse as spokespeople for our race!
    The are NOT, i repeat NOT!"

    Ha! Sorry Jason -- I should have said "self appointed."

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 11:30 AM

  150. "And of course they'll pick Clinton. That's the safe bet for cynical, corrupt establishment pols. The grass-roots energy swirling around Obama scares them. "

    I couldn't disagree more, Nash. I think they'll b e afraid to pick anyone BUT Obama. The media and Obama's campaign have set it up so that they have to do it.

    Posted by: Patsi