Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

would obama be Brute Bernard, or Skull Murphy?

UhOh. Here's a missive from Mrs. Obama. I hear the BO cynic cops knocking on my door already....

"Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed. "

Craig..... thanks for the video....
I missed your appearance on Abrams last night..... Rick and I bundled up and went outside to watch the lunar eclipse..... it was spectacular!.....

anyhoo..... it was nice to get a Craig fix on the blog this morning.....

oh yeah..... the horse race..... may Secretariat rest in peace.....

Moolah Moolah Moolah Craig! I've been hoping a good smack down by momma since the media wrapped the baby diaper around the big O and burped him.

Hey, hope you're strecthing your right leg and foot - I spent a summer in a boot, when I finally got it off my right leg was so off from over compensating that I wound up in PT for that one too.....stretch!

Interesting mix of posts last. Maybe it's just me but I think Michelle Obama reminds me of Claire Huxtable from the Cosby Show. I mean that in a nice way. Now if only Barack would start wearing nifty sweaters like Cliff Huxtable did. John McCain had an affair? Damn. Is everybody having sex these days? On a final note , I'll be glad when this election is finally over. What will we have to fight about then?

tiptoe,

What do I think of this election?

What Corey said... "on a final note".

"What will we have to fight about then?"

Corey -- we could invite a bunch of Miami Cubans to visit and bring up Elian Gonzalez.....

Do I hear ONE MORE COW , ONE MORE COW , COW???? SOLD TO THE MAN WITH THE NEW CANE! LOL!

Craig as a kid I too use to watch The Fabulous Moolah, real name Mary Lillian Ellison, on TV. Even went to the old Philadelphia Convention Center with my dad to see her wrestle with the other top male stars of the mid to late 1950's. Later I moved to Columbia, SC and discovered I was in Moolahland. Moolah died late last year at the age of 84. In 2006 she was still wrestling although very sparingly.

HRC like Moolah is a battler and like Moolah she has a number of tactics left concealed in her playbook. HRC's shoulders haven't been pinned down, and she hasn't submitted or been disqualified. HRC if you are going to lose, then lose ugly, as losing pretty is for wimps. Moolah never lost pretty.

Patsi , this is the closest I've been to actually participating in the discussions of a Presidential election. I am a member of a non-political Yahoo! group , that had occasionally discussed politics. But , whenever politics were discussed one of the group's most vocal members got into arguments with a few others. Mainly because they had a different opinion than he did on a few things. One by one people started quitting the group because of this one person. Eventually , this person was *kicked out* of the group. Soon after , all the people who had left because of him returned and many new members joined the group. So , I had always been afraid to talk about politics because it usually ended up starting fights.

Patsi..... ROFL!

or we could sing them a love song about Fidel......

I think we should resurrect the Fabulous Moolah and put her in the ring with Dame........ oh shit....... what was the name of that character that Mike Myers played?...... the name just went right outta my head......

I hate it when that happens......

lol@RR

Hey what about me?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEUUnIjHLaM

Just for the record, let me send out a HUGE gripe at my son for finishing his PhD and taking a job in Wash DC. Dammit, I bought you books and sent you to school, and NOW where are you when I have to call a plumber at 6:00 am???? Ahhh....I feel better.

This is what I wanna see when the election is over.

Winner performs a skit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYzkEF8Kmvk

": I wish I could send you our plumber, Mr. Andrews. He's excellent and companionable and even brought along a CD of himself singing and playing guitar. (He's quite good.) "

Wow, dog's eye -- that sounds like my kind of plumber!

The great thing about my son is that although he was a brainiac he was also a big strong football player who could lift anything I needed lifted, and -- an engineer -- so he could do damn near anything from plumbing to rebuilding furniture to fixing a lot of automobile problems. Couldn't seem to pick up his dirty socks....but...

Craig...that video is hilarious! I sent it to my family.

Also, you better watch out with that cranky-old-man cane-shaking routine, or McCain will pick you as his running mate.

Patsi,

Your son received his PhD. Well that is great news and something you certainly can be proud of. Here is an idea, sent your son the plumber's bill!

"Maybe it's just me but I think Michelle Obama reminds me of Claire Huxtable from the Cosby Show. " .
--Corey
___

I don't know...IMHO, MLRO is probably more like this wife, as described by Bill Cosby. 8D

http://www.videosift.com/video/Bill-Cosby-Chocolate-Cakefor-Breakfast

ROTFLMAO @ one of my fav BC routines!!!

An excelllent idea, Fry. My son has been in Washington for four years now, so I should be used to not having a handyman, uh, handy -- but I'm not.

A funny political aside....his PhD work at Vandy was primarily for DARPA, working on minature flying spy robots. So when he ran in the Democratic primary for the US congress in 2004, one of his opponents put out the rumor that he was an arms dealer.....we cracked up.

Renee-

Linda Richman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztCU7kunDKs

Craig- great video, though arguably there has been some negative ads from the Clinton campaign- the NH anti choice mailer and the SC radio ads

Mama's Don't Let Your babies grow up to be Doctors..

GOP lobbyist had no work permit
Lance Williams,Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Staff Writers

Thursday, February 21, 2008

A former California Republican Party official who resigned last year in a controversy over his immigration status had no valid visa or work permit during his high-profile career as a Washington lobbyist for conservative icon Grover Norquist, newly filed court records show.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/21/MNQBV5RJR.DTL&tsp=1

grover- grover -grover isn't there a fine involved for hiring illegals.

LOL @ the SNL skit!!

I am anxiously awaiting the return of SNL...LIVE!!!

Good Morning Craig,
I caught you last night on Dan, and your words were excellent, you hit a home run when you said that one of the reasons for the superdelegates was the open primary states. Here is what happened on Tuesday in Wisconsin.

The vote for the 2004 election in Calumet County was 58% for Bush and 40.7% for Kerry. This primary it was 68% democrat, and 31.9% Republican. Calumet County has usually gone republican in the past elections.

The total vote for Democratic Wisconsin was about 1,098,764 people, (Exit poll 1440), and Rep.402,577 ; total 1,501,341……….D-73.2% to R-26.8%

The state totals for the 2004 primary was Bush 1,477,122, and Kerry 1,488,935 total of 2,966,057 votes. 50.1% democrat, and 49.8% republican.

So either a lot of republicans voted for democrats this year, or the Democratic Party is getting a whole lot of new people.

The exit polls are interesting. I spent some time this morning looking at them and I see a pattern of people with no religion voting against Hillary. And in the Wisconsin exit poll 72% of the 1440 people who voted for BO were republicans.

These exit polls are played on so heavily with the MSM and some of the pundits. Do you know if they have compiled all of the exit polls together somewhere? I couldn’t find one.

There's an interesting Karl Rove oped piece in this morning's Journal detailing Mr Obama's vulnerabilities:
http://tinyurl.com/3275gq

No matter how many of us think of Rove and his 'contributions' to American politics, we ignore his insights at our own peril.

Ahh yes! Chocolate cake for breakfast! Ha!

Rove is a good rapper as well! MC Rove! 4 ever!

Kathy..... LOL!....
but I still can't remember the name...... Crap!..... won't somebody help me.....

and I don't care what anyone says...... I'd bet a million dollars that the GOP is breathing a sigh of relief that McCain at least had sex with a girl......

RRenee

As Kathy wrote...the name is Linda Richman. 8)

"Karl Rove oped piece in this morning's Journal detailing Mr Obama's vulnerabilities:"

thanks for the link, very interesting....

Lush.....
maybe she wasn't played by Mike Myers..... I'm not really up on this celebrity stuff.....

it was Dame somethingorother...... she wore cat eye glittery glasses and usually wore a spangled blue dress.....

oh well..... it'll come to me when I least expect it..... it always does....

from what I have read Linda Richman is a character that is based on his wife's mother.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Dame Edna?

http://www.dame-edna.com/

This it?

there is an actor from Australia that does do a Dame somebody but that is not Mike Myers/

yo soy Horsedooty!

Corey....

that's it!

thanks..... you are a doll.....

ok.... now you can all go back to your regularly scheduled fighting....... :0}

corey,

you beat me to it it has to be her.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Are we gonna argue about who's hotter? McCain's wife or Dame Edna?

RRenee

http://www.angelfire.com/tv2/coffeetalk/

This is the character, right? 8)

Oh yeah...maybe Corey is right...Dame Edna 8)

I know my hot women , Linda! LOL!

I never had a chance to see the FABULOUS MOOLAH, but I clearly remember having a mad crush on Bruno Sammartino(ahhhh...be still my heart).

LOL @ hot women!!

Wow...finally tons of Craig. I did get to watch the Abrams segment...you were so funny, Craig. (and I also saw Tucker...where is he sequestered these days? And his hair was so strange...like a turban or something). And your video is great, too.

I think Hillary needs to practice some Shamuing. If the men see her manipulation, it won't work.

I did get to see the eclipse last night...veiled through the clouds. And more winds last night...may mean some severe storms east of here later this week.

mornin' all. A chilly 8 degrees here after a crappy snow yesterday, and more to come tonight.

Craig, I think your prior post - lose pretty or win ugly pretty much sums it up for Hillary, although I think she certainly still has the capacity to lose ugly. The MSNBC crawl had Bill saying that if she won TX & OH whe would be the nominee - wonder where they got that? All I know is that it came after duplicate crawl entries proclaiming Obama's "landslide" victories in WI &HI. I guess they wanted to make sure we knew that.

Corey, what was this about lesbian sex in the chatroom? I missed it too, of course I've been pretty sick. Now how about gay sex?

One by one people started quitting the group because of this one person. Eventually , this person was *kicked out* of the group. Soon after , all the people who had left because of him returned and many new members joined the group.

Corey,

I haven't been here very long, but from the stories I've heard and some of the reactions I've seen, I think this blog has had its share of being bothered by "one person" or maybe two... or maybe three. Anyway, we all could try to be nicer, though for at least one this does seem an impossibility. Pity!

And Corey, I love what you write. You are clever and witty.

I'll be back... off to the doctor.

Cheers,

ET

Craig, I thought your explanation to Dan about Super Delegates last night was wonderful. Really concise eventhough he looked like he didn't appreciate the information. Your explanation was right on especially in light of the information LinW provided.

I wish I could stay on blog all day...more fun today instead of bumping political heads. I have jury duty again. In the 'old days,' you could at least bring a book to jury duty. But, no more reading material allowed. So, I get to stare at the Great Seal of the state of New Mexico --

http://www.newmexico.org/go/loc/department/page/dept-symbols.html

Horsedoody...there is actually a prickly pear cactus on it!

Yep, Hillary needs some more moolah...$$$. But, I am looking forward to the debates.

I had said i would vote for McCain if BO was our nominee.After further consideration,I have decided to write in for Hillary and would urge other HRC supporters to do the same

I have to chuckle about the McCain-Iseman article. I don't see much there, but having Bob Bennett blanket the airways is an interesting way to damp down the furor. Seems to me he's extending it into another news cycle. I gues it's from the no publicity is bad publicity school of thought.

So anyone planning to watch the debate tonight? No, I didn't think so.

To Craig & Linda in Wisconsin (@8:49 am)

I too thought that Craig's comments last night were intriguing. (although not enough time was given to complete the opinion)

Craig it sounded as if you juxtaposed 2 issues confronting the Democratic Party--who can win in November & superdelegates possible selection being based upon not just democratic votes, but independents & republicans--open primary/caucus states.

The looming superdelegate dilemma leads me to wonder this: Should the Democratic Party select
the Democratic presidential nominee by all the votes each candidate amasses & corresponding delegate allotment (which in some instances includes ind & rep) or should the Democratic Party be selecting their nominee based solely upon Democratic votes?

Linda, I believe you posted a link to a study that extrapolated the actual votes by democratic voters to each candidate using the exit poll information & as you pointed out, based upon that study, more Democrats actually voted for Hillary than Obama (at least to the date of that study).

For the record, I believe in a closed primary, if you choose to register in a party, that provides you with the
privilege to select that party's candidates.

Ruth, while it's tempting, I won't do that. I really really really don't want to look back and think I did anything at all to help John McCain become our next president.

Coreen, good point. I consistently have argued that the best nominating system is a one person, one vote, secret ballot, closed primary system with direct apportionment of delegates, all pledged, to the candidates based upon their vote percentage, and no superdelegates. Kind of makes for a oring convention, though. Oh well, there's always the booze and funny hats.

that would be "boring convention" btw.

Sweet Jesus...it must be a slow news day!! Three hours later, I turn on the TV and they are still talking about John McCain.

why watch the debate tonight?? the media will show pro obama clips over and over so it will look like hes a genius and perfect person........unless there a "i knew jfk "moment hillary dosnt have a chance.......the media is now working on destroying McCain so obama can waltz into the white house .....they will destroy everyone and everything that gets in the way of obama's coronation

Somewhere... Charles Keating is saying "attaboy".

Pogo? What do you F-E-see getting squirting out of this other really ugly Spicy John McCain Mustard bottle?

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/todays_must_read_281.php

Gail Collins' hilarious piece about us shooting down owr malfunctioned spy satellite.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/opinion/21collins.html?hp

9/11, sounds to me like Johnny Mac will be able to do anything he wants since the FEC has only 2 commissioners, and isn't likely to get a 3rd & 4th. It would be a great line of attack on his integrity by Obama (making an assumption here) if only Obama agreed to live up to his earlier pledge to use public financing. I know, he conditioned his use of the system on his opponent's agreement to do so as well, and both he and Obama were too clever by a half when both said the same thing and now both are reneging, blaming the other. It would make a great SNL skit for political junkies. But back to your question - it could be very interesting and could result in a suit by the FEC, assuming that the 2 commisioners have the power to initiate one (and I don't believe they do), against McCain seeking to prevent his use of privately raised funds in the runup to the general election if I understand the facts underlying this correctly. By using the promised public financing funds as collateral, he may very well have limited himself. Of course if the Dem nomination fight continues to the convention, it might not be such a devastating blow to McCain after all. I'll need to look into this a little deeper and wee which end appears to be up.

Check this out: http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=285292746454291

MCBush should have the Plunger lead his attack on the NYTimes

daryl, interesting link, but I've seen Michelle, and it's pretty apparent to me that Barack hasn't imposed Muslim dress on her.

Pogo,

one of the inconsistencies that sorta bothers me about the "shooting the satellite outta the sky" story is that I seem to remember that objects coming back down to earth would burn up on re-entry. Wasn't that the reason for all the tiles on the bottom of the Space Shuttles? Wasn't that why they got so freaked out when some were knocked off on blast off? Maybe this was just a test of the stars wars project. I hate like hell to agree with Glen Beck but the more I think of this with my little pea brain the more it sounds like we are sending a signal to someone.

yo soy Horsedooty!

What about this part of the link.

Would Obama put African tribal or family interests ahead of U.S. interests?

I agree It's a valid question, and one voters deserve to have debated regardless of the racial and religious sensitivities. TThe media needs to start bringing these issues up.

Coreen,
Craig's comment made the most sense of this mess than I have heard or read so far. Although, I felt bad about Hillary not winning in WI, the numbers made me feel better. As did the guy who couldn't name one thing that the other guy has accomplished.

I don't think that we can close the primaries because people do change their minds. But get rid of those caucus states; as the state of Washington has just proven, they are not accurate. I have heard things about them in Hawaii also.

What is bothering me is all the talk, almost nightly, that there will be riots if Hillary gets elected. Now that is just sick. A part of me feels that this country is going backward. In the end, there will be more sexism and racism than ever before.

Let's see what the candidates do withthe latest, very gloomy, economic reports.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2008-02-21-jobless_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip

You know Hannity and crew will be jumping on this real soon. So far he is on the Time for Change bandwagon but watch out it's right around the corner.

Thank you, Pogo.

daryl,

this sounds very much like when JFK (Catholic) was running for the presidency. There had not been a Catholic to run for the high office before him. Suddenly, there were questions about JFK taking direction about the country's business from the Pope. It did not happen and I would think it will not happen in this case either. Sounds like you are just looking for mud to sling.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Just listen to the first hr of Hannity radio's show and all he does is bash Hillary and Obama. He unloaded on McCain because he wanted Mitt to win but since that did not work, and since Hillary is going down the tubes he is starting on Obama. Will be interesting what he does with the McCain NY Times thing today.

hd, there is merit to both your positions about sending a message and your hating to agree with Glen Beck.:-{) But yeah, I beleie something has to have a lot of mass to survie the atmosphere, but I also seem to recall that some debris from Challenger made it to earth and was spread out over the southwest.

Daryl, I'm not an Obama supporter, but I really don't see that being a problem, but yes, the media should bring this stuff up. Write Wolf - maybe he will.

Pogo

I wholeheartedly agree that it should be one vote per person allocated proportionally to the various candidates. But being a true cynic, I believe that each Party designs its rules to ensure the Party hierarchy maintains its control of the process to its advantage.

The current contest throws everything out of balance & I truly do not know how this will be resolved--someone's base is going to be very, very unhappy.

And as said previously--this was supposed to be an election the Democrats could not lose!!!!

I am not throwing around mud, have you heard Hannity, that's mud. He is looking for all the dirt he can get on BO. What Hillary's thrown at him is nothing compared to what he and his cronies are going to dish out.

No, 9/11, thank you. That's an interesting story that I probably would have missed.

Pogo, in my past lifetime I was in the intelligence operations and exploitation business. Here's my take:
--We want the Chinese, Russians, and any other major power to have their own intelligence gathering satellites. The reason why is that it reduces uncertainty as to other peoples' intentions, which can have a calming effect during periods of heightened tensions.
--We want other people's satellites to be less capable than our own.
--We want other people to be uncertain as to the ultimate capability of our satellites. In this case, uncertainty results in caution on the part of potential adversaries.
--Having other people know for certain how capable our satellites are is not in our national interest. We have spent billions upon billions of dollars developing our spy satellite capabilities. Expending $50-M is nothing compared with the potential cost of a compromise in the state of our capability.
--Having potential adversaries say, "Wow, they really can shoot something down!" is good.
--The talk about saving the world from the threat of a hydrazine fueled satellite is just a red herring.
--It would be a foolish act, indeed, for any country to shoot down another's intelligence gathering satellite. It would undoubtedly be seen as a most grave precursor to a general war. Undoubtedly immediate, disproportionately strong reactions would ensue.

va, here's my Hannity prediction - and I'll listen so you guys don't have to - he will say it's nothing.

Let's see I sent the original link, then I gave a little opinion on it, then I talked about Hannity and crew may also bring these issues up, what is stupid about that.

Flatus, sounds like you are saying about the same thing as HD, it was to send a message. Wouldn't surprise me. If it was just an opportunity to test the missle defense system, it wouldn't likely have been made as public as it was, particularly considering the very public failed tests of the past..

"Cause all you're looking to is spread mud. Why don't you go out and find some smear bullshit stories about Hillary "

You already do that.

I've seen Michelle, and it's pretty apparent to me that Barack hasn't imposed Muslim dress on her.
--pogo
__

I know dozens of Muslims, who do not dress in their traditional garb, while in the U.S.. It is not required, but more of a personal choice for them.

Take it easy, take a chill pill.

Patsi,

You have my sympathy. This is my son's 45th birthday which means it is only two weeks until mine. Where does he get off becoming middle aged when I haven't been at all ravaged by time?

Here's my question on the satellite story.
If the problem was that it was indestrucible why don't they built the shuttles out of the same material?

They said the same thing about planes , KGC. Why not build the plane out of the same thing they use to make the little black boxes? Now...off to meet my sister for lunch.

Craig,

Just by virtue of the graphics in your video clip and on the strength of you Fabulous Moolah reference, I hereby wish to start a draft Craig Crawford campaign for President.

I will even go so far as to write your name in on the Texas primary ballot. I know you want want to pick a primary for me to do it in, but I will do so nonetheless...

This campaign will replace the Bloom County "Don't Blame Me, I voted for Bill and Opus" as my fondest election memory ever!!!!!!!!!!

CRAIG FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!

Corey

Yeah what's up with that LOL
Have a wonderful lunch.

Hi daryl,

I misunderstood your post. For that I am sorry. But don' t you have any other channels you can listen to other than the rightwingnut fool Hannity? God, what a waste of time and air.

pogo,

the Columbia was already in earth orbit I believe when it started to break up. We had a lot of the debris over in East Texas.

yo soy Horsedooty!

9/11, there are a couple sites out there - campaignmoney.org and publicampaign.org that have stories on the public financing pledges by McCain and Obama, but neither goes into the detail of the TPM link you posted.

how yo doing, btw?

I'm sorry you feel that way. I agree that it does not look good for Hillary. If she loses Texas it's all over. I would love to know more about Obama, please tell me all about him.

Just do a google search media+obama+cult and you will see that the kool-aid is wearing off.

If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, then it must be a DUCK!!

Lush I love that Cosby routine. To this day quotes of "have you ever seen a conniption?" and "Let the beatings begin" are heard around the house.

The other favorite is the one from the comedian in "All That Jazz" about bargaining with death, "Take my mother, she's old I'm Weaned".

hd, so was the spy satellite - Columbia (not Challenger - duh) just had a controlled orbit decay (retro rockets and all that jazz). Whole damn thins sounds strange to me.

Heard on the Campaign trail....

"F you my friend....surge is working...blah blah blah, surge is working...blah blah blah...no son, I don't take Viagra..."

"blah blah blah...9/11, Democrats are pussies...blah blah blah...9/11, 9/11...blah blah blah...I really like my tan..."

"yada yada yada, hope, change, blah blah blah, change, hope, blah, blah, blah, change, yes we can, hope, blah blah, where are we playin hoops later?"

"blah, blah, blah, solutions, blah blah, experience, blah blah, experienced solutions, blah blah, where did everybody go?"

I'm not sure I can take 9 more months of the same speeches over and over...candidates should be forced to use mad libs to create their stump speeches...

Lush - that was one ot the things the article talked about, but I think it was referring to the guy that Obama's brother follows. I was just saying I don't see anything there, but in a kind of indirect, humorous (or so I thought) way.

Dooty,

Columbia broke apart during reentry from space. You are right that it started over Eastern Arizona and continued to break apart over Texas.

The crash was caused by a structural failure of the orbiter. Upon reentry, due do missing heat tiles, the sub structure of the wing was heated to an extreme temperature which caused it to break apart.

Your right it is a waste of time to listen to him, I don't have XM, and he is the only one on that is talking about the election at that time. I just can't believe all the crap he is dishing out and getting away with it.

bear, let me rcommend TDC,TWC, HGTV, ESPN and any other media outlets that don't talk politics.

Craig - OMG - ROFLMAO

I wish you'd do a VLOG everyday.

The web is full of crap about Obama too.

send me a link of good info on Obama. it's that to much to ask.

daryl,

find a station that plays music you like and listen to that. Your blood pressure will be better for it. Radio is the domain of the extreme right and there is no reason for me to listen to it.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Pogo,

I am on top of those already...I am hurt you didn't include the Food Network though...lol

Are we sure the GOP is not rigging this election?
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html

CRAIG, LOVE YOUR VIDEO...HOPEFULLY, tonights debate HILLARY can have a TAKE DOWN!!!

A little advice for Hillary and Barack in advance of tonight's debate.

http://www.236.com/blog/w/jonathan_solomon/debating_for_dummies_3534.php

Your right, no need to get the blood pressure up over someone on the radio. I just hope he does not do anything to hurt Obama or anybody else.

Lush

" Three hours later, I turn on the TV and they are still talking about John McCain"

They had to get off the Hillary coverage because it was becoming too obvious that they had been bought and sold to the Obama opposition. Then the Michelle quote blew up and they actually did unfair coverage of that, then this NY Times article comes up.

Slide into home safe - we can now avoid Clinton without saying anything mean about Obama while turning on both a newspaper and a Republican ... what fun. No Facts combined with hours of filler.

Lush, do whatever you want ...
--pogo

What does your post mean?

Bear,

One of my favs is Everyday Italian with that babe Giada De Laurentiis as the host.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Damn, bear, I'm sorry - it is one I watch - I particularly like Emeril Live and Iron Chef America, and catch Bobby Flay's Throwdown when it's BBQ or sandwiches.

Dooty,

You going to vote in the caucus part in Fort Worth?

Jamie

"Slide into home safe" is exactly right 8)

And I sooooooo love the Bill Cosby clip...even my nieces(ages 12 and 9)think it is hysterically funny...it's a classic!!!

"I have decided to write in for Hillary and would urge other HRC supporters to do the same"

I know others will cry about this - but this is on the table for me as well. I have several options I'm considering but this is definitely among them. This morning I also thought of writing in Minnie Mouse (since Micky is the one always getting the write in votes...thought it was time for Minnie to get a few).

Nuttin' wrong with that, HD,and Giada is indeed a babe.

I am gonna have to vote early because I may be out of town on March 4. I will caucus if I am in town but I need more info on the whole caucus thing. Are you?

yo soy Horsedooty!

"but I also seem to recall that some debris from Challenger made it to earth and was spread out over the southwest."

One of the sick jokes following the Challenger disaster was,

Q: Where did the Challenger crew go for vacation?

A: All over Florida.

no one would want to attack you.

Pogo wrote:

"Let's see what the candidates do withthe latest, very gloomy, economic reports."

Hillary will try to discuss them and talk about what needs to be done to address the issue.

Barack won't

It won't matter.

Horsedooty wrote:

"this sounds very much like when JFK (Catholic) was running for the presidency."

I agree - the catholic thing was a joke. There are other comparisons to JFKs term in office and a possible Obama term in office - sans the dreamy remembrance of Camelot - that could be made that points to what happens when we vote for the good looking, young guy who speaks well but not be the right person for the job.

It's been brought up here before so I won't rehash it. Those I know who were actually adults and around during that time have a less starkly eyed remembrance of that presidency.

"I hereby wish to start a draft Craig Crawford campaign for President."

Bear - if they can do it for Lou Dobbs, we can do it for Craig. Now here is a candidate we all might be able to agree on.

I'm with you Bear!

Bear wrote:

"candidates should be forced to use mad libs to create their stump speeches..."

ROFLMAO

Will Bill Kristol resign from the NYTmes in protest over he McCain story?

As far as Obama and religion are concerned, some responsible reporter should look at the Senator, his 20 year membership in the church, his relationship with the minister who has on many occasions said or done controversial things, and investigate any influence this may have had on his neighborhood work and what statements by his minister he supported.

Those are legitimate questions and lines of investigation. What is wrong is to assume that just because someone goes to a particular church that they automatically believe every single thing done or said by the minister. Anyone who tries to turn the Senator into a mindless clone or accolyte is failing in their duty to provide accurate information to the voter.

Sorry about the typos in my 12:17 post...oh well - I'm tired today for some reason.

Wendy,

I don't know if I qualify as an adult but I was 18 when JFK was killed in Dallas. I was enrolled at North Texas State University in Denton, Tx about 35 miles north of Dallas.

my point to daryl was the obvious slime about his church and whom he may be beholding to. I am pretty sure that Barak Obama is a citizen of the US of A and that is whom he is beholding to.

as to those who were adults when JFK was in office, if they are like my mom and dad, they would be HARD core Republicans and their remembrance of his administration would be anything short of glowing. So I don't take much from that observation.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Bear....
LOVE your 11:38 post.....

I'm into nature...... watching a lot of Animal Planet lately...... and Comedy Central.....

ok..... let me try this again....

Obama mama oh mama
banana fanana oh mana
fi fie fo fama
Obama.....

Blonde wino..... we had a clear and spectacular view of the lunar eclipse here in NH..... but man was it cold outside!.....

"One of my favs is Everyday Italian with that babe Giada De Laurentiis"

Ha -- Doots....the first time my son saw Giada and her decollette, he laughed and said, "I guess Food Channel figured out a lot of guys are watching."

My favorites are Paula Deen and Alton Brown.

KcG

Will Bill Kristol resign from the NYTmes in protest over he McCain story?

Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | February 21, 2008 12:25 PM

one can hope KcG one can hope

yo soy Horsedooty!

For those who were asking about my blog yesterday, I finally got the article "Betrayal" up if you want to read it.

Last night, I was watching an episode of "The Andy Griffith Show." Howard Sprague & Aunt Bee were both running for city council and there was a debate.

Aunt Bee (Obama) was full of "give the people what they want" and empty rah-rah stuff. Howard (Hillary) was all about the dull, old facts. Eventually, even Aunt Bee (Obama) could see that Howard (Hillary) was the best person for the job. Oh, to live in Mayberry where things wrap up so nicely.

OMG

MSNBC is being so self righteous today ... real "Journalism" doesn't engage in innuendo. How can they even keep a straight face?

Patsi,

I like Paula but I am not familiar with Alton Brown. I know what his program is but it is too geeky for me to watch for very long. I am sure he is a very good chef or he would not have a show.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Senor Horsedooty

Al the rightwing pundits are lining up to slam the Times. I think it would be the right thing to.

RR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1YyTAd3O9o

that name game song??? Let's try it with Chuck! :))))

You should be doing the game with Barack or Barry not Obama.

Barack, Barack, bo-arack
Banana-fana-fo-farack
Fee-fi-mo-marack
Barack!!
____

Obama, Obama bo-bama
Banana-fana-fo-fbama
Fee-fi-mo-mbama
Obama!! 8)

jamie - Great post on your blog. Did you send it to Abrams or anyone?

I couldn't quite figure out what Chuck Todd meant by the Times piece being lined with silver for McCain.

Also, why use the "breaking news" graphic for hours?

I think MSNBC put too much emphasis on it and now they will look foolish backing away from the story without something else sizeable to take its place.

I guess they're off the hook if there's a Britney debacle & they have to pull Rita Cosby out mothballs.

Hillary, Hillary, bo-Billary
Banana-fana-fo-fillary
Fee-fi-mo-millary
Hillary!

Oops! bo-Billary. Don't blame me. It Shirley Ellis' fault ;)

Blue No I didn't. I lack a certain amount of faith that they actually read those things, though I might try Abrams.

Bear -

that article is spot-on.

Somewhere... Charles Keating is saying "attaboy".

Just to clarify, there is Charles Keating the scum, and Charles Keating the actor (who is a friend of mine) and played evil Carl Hutchins on NBC's Another World. His character was reformed by the love of Rachel Cory after her Mac died. It was very unrealistic, but anything to see those two work together was worth it for me...

Now back to regularly scheduled "not suffering fools gladly"...

Oh and I thought Obama was a SHIT for his lack of protocol in his victory speech. He has every right to be proud and make important points but sorry, that was below the belt and I don't believe this stuff that they didn't Hillary was on.

Chuck chunk, bo buck
banana fana fo .....

The New Republics version of the Times/McCain dustup

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=8b7675e4-36de-43f5-afdd-2a2cd2b96a24

blue, my take on Chuckles' comment was that it gives McCain a concrete opening to scream media bias against the Times. Now if only the Times hadn't endorsed his candidacy...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080221/NATION/801689903/1001

Lanny Davis defends John McCain

I just finished reading the Rove article posted earlier by someone. I really don’t like that guy, but I do believe he brings up some interesting points regarding Obama’s vulnerabilities.

Moving into a general election when so far nearly half of the democratic primary voters didn’t vote for him (this number as Linda pointed out may be more since we don’t know how many of his open primary votes are genuine v. republicans or McCain indies trying to influence the democratic primary nominee), he clearly has a lot of people – half the democratic party it appears and perhaps some indies – to convince that he’s the right guy for the job.

He’s going to have to convince me so I don’t write in Minnie Mouse for president. He’s going to have to convince MANY of my friends (hard core democrats unlike myself). He’s going to have to convince others on this list. He’s going to have to try and retain crossover and those indie votes that have no allegiance to any party. Questions like Rove brings up may sway them another way—as hard as that is for hard core Obama supporters to believe and even some of the hard core dems that will vote for any democratic nominee who has a pulse over a republican alternative. Obama is going to have to really start addressing some of the very vulnerabilities Rove outlines in his article.

Rove may be a jerk – but he was a huge part of getting GWB—a proven failure—elected twice.

Would Obama put African tribal or family interests ahead of U.S. interests?

__________

Sorry but this rings of stinging racism to me. And I am not one to through the "racism" charge around much. From what I know and understand Barack Obama is an American citizen. Has anyone seen anything done by Mr. Obama in the Senate that would suggest he puts "African tribal or family interests ahead of U.S. interests"?

Look, I want Hillary to win! But this route is a recipe for disaster. And it just seems so patently unfair. If someone can find examples of Mr. Obama doing things that are contrary to American interests, and especially because of his African roots, I'd like to see the evidence. Going down this route is very dangerous and slippery.

Jamie wrote:

"MSNBC is being so self righteous today ... real "Journalism" doesn't engage in innuendo. How can they even keep a straight face?"

Jamie I thought of you as I watched MSNBC this morning. I was laughing soooo hard at Joe and Mica and Matthews with the grave looks on their faces as they picked apart detail by detail the McCain story - shaking their heads at the tabloid nature of the story.

This is from the same three yahoos that laughed and laughed and kept saying Bill Clinton got angry and popped a guy in the face (while they showed a clip with no audio so hard to tell about his tone and no proof on the tape that WJC popped him).

Then they had the same smirks on their faces as they showed video of the guy (who clearly may have some problems) talking about Clinton popping him in the face...again...no proof. And several people, who clearly don't have emotional issues who witnessed the event all say it didn't go down that way, Clinton wasn't mad and Clinton didn't hit him. As with the McCain story...they left out the parts that would have given an alternative point of view to the incident.

This morning - with those grave looks of concern on their faces - they lost A Lot more credibility in my eyes - which puts them way down in the negative numbers now.

Wendy,

You asked about my blog yesterday. Hop over and read the "Betrayed" article, or at least the final paragragh, but don't pass up the intermission link above with the "Teacher's Pet" link from You Tube.

Reminder to me: go searching for the Gig Young hangover scene to post here.

http://jdurward.blogspot.com

"I know what his program is but it is too geeky for me to watch for very long."

Yeah, Doots....Alton Brown does get pretty geeky. He's one of those people that I listen to because somewhere down the line he's going to end up giving me a bit of valuable information.

Horsedooty:

In response to your 12:32 post.

I agree with you 100% about the Catholic church stuff - that was pure slime and I agree with you about Obama on this one.

As to the people I know who are not starry-eyed about JFK's term, they were / are still hard core democrats and have actually worked in Washington in more recent years - so both sides of the aisle found much room to criticize. Since I was born later in that decade - I'll admit - it is hear say.

Back from lunch with my sister. My Mom joined us as well. Not Dad , though. We wanted to have a pleasant lunch. Speaking of madlibs , I entered a Michael Buble mee and greet contest last week. The contest was to take a story about Michael Buble and create a madlib by filling in the empty spaces with one word and try and make the story funny. Giada? She's a sweet cookie! I have tonight off. I took it off because I thought I might have to work on Friday night. I'm driving my Mom to a surprise birthday party for a friend of hers on Saturday. The party is a 2 and a half hour drive away from here , so I told her I would take her there so she could go to it. Gotta do something nice for Mom once in awhile.

Gig Young was nominated for Best Supporting Actor for one of the best "hangover" scenes ever. Someone has posted virtually all of "Teacher's Pet" in groups, so slide about two minutes into this clip to get to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSxdBL1WJI8

Jamie - headed over to read your blog now - I especially can't wait for Teacher's Pet link as it is one of my favorite DD movies!

Some minor housekeeping...

winner of the "Burning in Hell" post of the day...

"but I also seem to recall that some debris from Challenger made it to earth and was spread out over the southwest."

One of the sick jokes following the Challenger disaster was,

Q: Where did the Challenger crew go for vacation?

A: All over Florida.

Posted by: jamie | February 21, 2008 12:08 PM

I must admit, I always liked the Christa McAuliffe joke..."I said BUD LIGHT!!!" lol

EuroTom,

I don't know what is worse...the fact that you used an Another World reference on a political blog, or the fact that I understood the damn reference...I may have to shop ebay for a new set of testicles for admitting that...btw, AW led the Soap World in the Most Males With Mullets category...

I like most on the FoodNet...Paula Dean is good for a couple of overly sexual reference an episode. Makes for a great distraction from all that damn butter she uses...lol

Dooty, if I figure out where to caucus, I definitely will go to cast my first vote for the next president of the United States....CRAIG CRAWFORD!!!

Jamie - great article - and great choice of clip.

Back in for lunch...the wind is really bad again.

I wanted to check in since the Belgrade situation is on the news. Sure bumped JMc off the news. Putin front and center.

Because I have had a lot of time to ponder...I wonder if Bloomberg will enter the race dependent upon March 4th outcome. Just a thought with dem situation and the repug situation.

We are a far way off to November and really anything can happen. Ah, the mind is a dangerous thing...especially mine on idle time.

Got to run (after reading some of the posts)...wind is really bad. Look for storms east of here by Friday and Saturday.

"I always liked the Christa McAuliffe joke..."I said BUD LIGHT!!!" lol"

It has always amazed me that people deal with sudden, extreme disaster with humor. I heard the first joke in seconds after it was known that Challenger had exploded.

I was working at the U. S. Chamber of Commerce and Christa McAuliffe was scheduled to speak there following the mission and an appearance on the business program. The staff was on the BizNet floor watching the feed when the explosion occurred.

The gasp went from the front to the back of the crowd as the full impact of what had happened sank in, and then a man at the back said, "She could have just declined the interview."

They keep referring to the breakup of Yugoslavia because it is an "artificial country". Can't help but wonder why no one is seeing the kinship to Iraq an equally "artificial country".

EuroTom,

I don't know what is worse...the fact that you used an Another World reference on a political blog, or the fact that I understood the damn reference...I may have to shop ebay for a new set of testicles for admitting that...btw, AW led the Soap World in the Most Males With Mullets category...

Heheheh Bear, I actually used my political organizing skills to create a grassroots letter writing campaign to get AW back on the air on KING -5 in Seattle. We finally prevailed, I got Victoria Wyndham and Charles Keating to come to Seattle's ACT Theatre and I was then invited to the set of AW and put up in the Hilton Hotel in NYC courtesy of Victoria Wyndam. And Bear, I think it's AWESOME you knew that show. It's long gone but the strange thing about soaps, if you get hooked, the characters become pseudo-members of your own family.

Thanks for the post.

Another World was THE soap in canada.. I scheduled my university classes around the show..

More drunkeness fun!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q63uf4xxh2M

Well I wonder if this uprising in Belgrade will slow down the EU ascension talks with Serbia. I sure hope so, the Serbs are a very violent people. We are already experiencing more robberies with MUCH more violence since Bulgaria and Romania joined the EU. It's getting scary really.

Tylenol, I bought my first VCR because at the bank i worked at, the guys protested me having the TV on during my lunch hour for the soap in the men's lounge, and I wasn't allowed in the girls lounge. LOL... I remember it was a TOP loading Fisher and it cost over $700 back in like 1980 or 81. When AW was off the air in Western Washington, a friend of mine in Minneapolis would video tape and send episodes to me, which I would watch and then send to someone else, who would send to another and another and then go back to Minneapolis. It's crazy, but you know, being in the studio was AWESOME... I still have pictures.

She (Victoria Wyndam) was a really good actress.. I still miss her..

Yeah, questionning whether Obama's first loyalty would be to his church (which regardless of the lack of a meritorious basis for the question sounds wierd and extreme to me) is silly, there is no basis from anything Obama's said or done of which I am aware to ask that question, and it's probably racist at some level as well. Of coures it's not that far removed from the questions asked about Huckabee and his Baptist minister background and Romney and his LDS membership or JFK and his Catholocism. The only real difference I see is that Obama is black and there is a fairly close tie to Africa in his church. Racism aside, the question that could at one time have been legitimately asked of a candidate(and I do not mean any particular candidate here) is whether someone who's a member of a religious sect that is not in the mainstream of religions in the US will let their beliefs shape their presidency. Of course, JFK provided the model answer (although I think it is odd that Catholocism was not considered mainstream enough in 1960 for that question to go unasked). I believe that absent some sign that a candidate wouldanswer first to their church, then to their country, the question is not legitimate and is a ruse for an underlying bias.

I was more a General Hospital fan myself...

Due to being "tired" today (work talk for hung over)...I suspect my posts will be few and far between.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Wyndham

"So either a lot of republicans voted for democrats this year, or the Democratic Party is getting a whole lot of new people."
Linda~in~Wisconsin 8:49 AM

I think the later is correct.

"Exit polls showed the makeup of the Democratic electorate on Tuesday was similar to 2004. On Tuesday, Democrats made up 62% of those who voted in the Democratic primary, independents 28% and Republicans 9%.

The difference between 2004 and Tuesday night: the number of voters on the Democratic side of the ballot."
-Milwaukee JS online 2/20

With BO on the ballot, more new voters are coming into the process.

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Victoria_Wyndham_on_Another_World_and_another_life

here ya go, ET

Pogo,

If you set aside any preconceptions about the possible anti-semitism preached by the man in addition to some of his other rather extreme positions, all he is doin is telling African Americans to do what other minority groups have done upon entering this country until they could assimilate: It didn't matter if the group was Polish, Irish, German, Eastern European Jews, and most recently Asian:

Buy and support your own businesses
Encourage marriage within the community
Make loans to your own people
Act as a mentor to children
Encourage education

The difference is that AA have been here from the creation of the country and a lot of this message must have sounded like going back toa militant "separate but equal" both members of an older generation that had worked so hard for integration and to the white population who believed improvements had happened and saw these "pride movements" as a rejection.

It is a fine line between an angry militantcy and an enlightened self interest. Let's hope at some point we finally get it right.

Lush re:yor 12:08 question - wrong Linda - I meant to address that to Linda in Wisconsin. Sorry for the confusion.

What happens next Tuesday?

Lots of blurry lines out there, jamie. That's why I think there has to be some indication that the candidate is or will put the religion or beliefs first before the question is legitimate - and I'm not even religious. There certainly is nothing like that in this case, thus my sarcastic comment about Michelle's dress.

...I've been an ABC girl for Soaps since I was 5 and would come home from Kindergarten and watch "One Life To Live" with my Grandma... ;0)

Started skipping school in 8th Grade to watch "All My Children"

fading again]]]]]]

Gordo:

I predict that - absent a Clinton miracle - Obama will win TX and/or OH - and the race for the nomination will be over.

Clinton supporters will begin to see Obama as a potential President - instead of an opponent - and they will begin the gradual process of learning about him and ultimately most will support him. This will be assisted by a great exit speech by Hillary herself. She will point out many similarities with Obama and will rally the troops against the GOP.

I guess timing is everything in Obamaland.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19375615/

http://votehope2008.org/

"So what if it's a little slimy."

*Yawn*

Pogo,

I'll see you and raise you, my dear! LOL

Looks like too many Cooks in Clinton and Obama's Pot! They should stay out......

Pro-Clinton 527 Prepares For Ohio, PA and Texas

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/02/proclinton_527_prepares_for_oh.php

Allies of Hillary Clinton plan an expensive, stealth campaign to buttress her standing in the must-win states of Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania.
They're canvassing Clinton donors for pledges of up to $100,000 in the hope of raising at least $10M by the end of next week. The money will be placed in the account of a political committee organized under section 527 of the tax code

A Democrat who was briefed on the project said that Pennsylvania attorney William A. K. Titelman is leading the effort to solicit money. Titleman, who raised money for Gov. Bill Richardson's presidential campaign, has not contributed money to Clinton. He did not respond to an e-mail seeking comment.
By law, the 527 cannot coordinate its activities with the Clinton campaign, although at least one major Clinton donor with direct ties to the campaign said last night that the effort was an open secret among donors

And the hits just keep coming.

That 21 year old SD from WI announced his support for BO.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/21/superdelegate-schmoozed-by-chelsea-backs-obama/

I was raised on Another World as well - I loved summers because I could watch it every day.

Anyone remember the Anne Heche days?

I was also a big fan of As the World Turns during the . . . yes . . . Meg Ryan days.

warren ------------------

"-- and they will begin the gradual process of learning about him --"

We might learn more about him next Tuesday!

Some Obama supporters here seem...upset...about the Clinton 527. I think all of you should be thanking her for this. A little 527 sparring in the primary will get him ready for the 20 rounds of swift boating in the general.

Wendy:

I agree for the most part - except that I think that the Clinton 527s are going to be making the same arguments as the Republicans - thus giving these attacks more credibility to the voters in the middle.

But hey - anything to win - right....

Wendy,

I'm not upset, I was laughing because pogo posted one that friends of Obama are going to do too?

This is Pogo's caption.....Unsanctioned Obama group starts 527

AND my caption......Pro-Clinton 527 Prepares For Ohio, PA and Texas

I was laughing at the Irony of both campaigns...

NOW I AM LAUGHING AT ALL OF YOU FOR NOT BOTHERING READ......LOL

Just react and don't read oK?

Warren wrote:

"they will begin the gradual process of learning about him and ultimately most will support him"

Is that just Clinton supporters that need to learn about him or a vast majority of his own supporters that need to learn about him? Appears from what I'm seeing most don't need to know AND in fact don't know much about him to support him? (present company excluded of course)

What about those of us that know plenty about him and still can't support him?

My personal observation is that the less most know about him, the easier it is to support him. The more one knows about him the harder.

I do think many democrats will in fact vote for him giving him the anything but a Republican vote - like I said earlier - any democratic nominee with a pulse.

Sheila

How do you know I was referencing YOUR post.

Talk about reacting.

The real problem is that attacks against Obama will not win Clinton the nomination. Why doesn't she just focus on trying to improve on her OWN message?

If Clinton does not right her sinking ship and win on her own merits - but instead sneaks into the nomination by torpedoing Obama's campaign - the Dems are in serious trouble in the general.

Sheila, I've been getting at least one or two mail solicitations a day from the Clinton campaign and its local affiliates. And, then there are the email pleas, as well. Thank goodness our calls are screened..

Sooner or later the campaigns have to figure out that, at least in my case, they don't need to ask for funds, that I'll seek them out. They could sure save a bunch of stationery and stamps.

Obama has shamelessly used 527's in every contest

Edwards cried foul yesterday, comparing these ads to the TV ad local SEIU chapters ran on Edwards’ behalf in Iowa shortly before its caucuses. At that time, Obama insisted that Edwards should denounce the ads publicly, adding that Edwards’ former campaign manager ran the organization coordinating the ads. Edwards did denounce the ad, which only mentioned the former North Carolina senator's health-care plan in a positive light; it didn’t mention any other candidates.

In separate statements yesterday from Edwards and senior adviser Jonathan Prince the Edwards campaign called on Obama to denounce the Nevada ads. Obama spokesman Bill Burton responded last night: “Sen. Obama believes, and has said clearly, that campaigns should fund themselves and discourages supporters from spending outside the campaign. But no one should be confused about the effort that was run on behalf of John Edwards in Iowa. In that case, it was not the independent speech of individual union members, each contributing small amounts to amplify their voices. It was a special project of outside donors funding a massive 527 effort run by one of Edwards’ top political lieutenants.”
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/18/587847.aspx

Sinclair Polygraph Test Set For Tuesday, Feb 26

"Since the outcome of the test will be vital interest to the voting public, our findings will be made available before the presidential primaries in Texas and Ohio slated for March 4."

http://rense.com/general80/sinc.htm

At the risk of being accused of distracting us from the intra-party bickering going on, here's a WaPo article published this afternoon on the McCain-Iseman affair.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/20/AR2008022002898_pf.html

Wendy:

I simply think right now you are an advocate for Clinton. Try as you might to be objective about Obama - it is impossible (and the same goes for me about Clinton right now).

Talk to me a few weeks after Clinton exits (and don't worry - I will still keep trying to convince you in the meantime).

And so what that a lot of uninformed people support Obama. We NEED them to win the general!!

Plus, a lot of very informed and very experienced and very capable people also support Obama (and not simply because he talks nice).

Wendy,

Were your ears burning? I was just thinking about the Anne Heche days as well...lol

I was a huge Santa Barbara fan...I don't get why that show didn't last longer...

Anyone still remember Search for Tomorrow?

And wendy,

Before I go,

I'm sorry. It seems that every time I try to post something benign, I comes back to haunt me.

I'm outta here. You all have a great summer.

Warren wrote:

"But hey - anything to win - right...."

Yep - anything. Guess you're choosing to ignore the vast amount of articles out there of Obama and his surrogates that are threatening black super delegates.

Even poor old John Lewis who buckled under the pressure and said if it came down to a floor vote he'd cast his vote for Obama is still being targeted because he still endorses Hillary

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i84BeAvHRnVpEpuoqmenru1pWTOAD8UUB0GG0

Yep Warren - as you say - see I'm giving you credit for this ;-) - anything to win.

Looks like they're all playing with the same box of toys.

My gripe has never been about how the game is played - it's about Obama's hypocrisy - out right lying to everyone saying that he's new and different and not the status quo and a new kind of politics - better than the rest. It's frankly a load of crap. I wish he'd just admit that he can play dirty too so we can get on with it.

OMG Bear - Santa Barbara from Day 1 me too - Robin Wright!

Sheila,:-),

OMG, Craig! You've missed your calling. Your VIDEO TM's are great. And clever use of the flat screen too.

Corey *L*
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/02/the-fabulous-moolah.html#comment-39018

I'm laughing to tears here between the 2 of ya's.

DEBATE tonight in Austin. Not much happening in Dallas.

tt

527s. I MovedOut of MoveOn when they endorsed Obama. And, I had been with them since the beginning.

I still do Emily's List.

Gordo, bet you five that Sinclair fails that polygraph test. What a bunch of crap.

The Edge / Of Night

This is premature. Will save for the right time.

ELECTION RESULTS:

When you rearrange the letters:

LIES - LET'S RECOUNT

tt

"If Clinton does not right her sinking ship and win on her own merits"

Warren - were you listening to Rachel Maddow yesterday?

LOL

Bear - the only thing about the Kelly (Robin Wright character) in Santa Barbara is she always seemed to be in a perpetual state of kidnapped...or is that just my memory messin' with me?

Wendy!, there' s plenty of hypocrisy to go around.

TV scared me a few minutes ago, but it's apparently okay...a helicopter carrying Chuck Hagel, Joe Biden and John Kerry had to make a forced landing in Afganistan...but it was due to a snow storm. Before they said the chopper had made a forced landing, I was imagining the worst....

"Sinclair Polygraph Test Set For Tuesday, Feb 26"

Even I wish this Sinclair guy would go away.

Eurotom,

Another Fan of Another World here...

Now... a question I've had on my mind (and I so enjoy your presence here): I used to watch the Doris Day show when I was young. Denver Pyle wore on me... and I think I was happy when the show moved to SF because it was Doris Day in her late 60's/70's wardrobe (which she wore so well on that special she did with Como)...

But I really remember liking Maclean Stevenson as her boss. (Was he her boss? Was he a continuing character?)

She (Victoria Wyndam) was a really good actress.. I still miss her..

Posted by: tylenol | February 21, 2008 2:35 PM

Heeheheh I love Vicky. I got to ride to the studio in her limo. I even was in her apartment. She's one tough woman, and no matter what else happened on Another World, there was one cardinal rule... "No one TOUCHED Victoria Wyndham". These days she is making paintings, and continues to do horse riding competitions. She did have a small guest bit on one of the CSI shows or something...

OMG Bear, my best friend Dusty and I used to hang on the telephone in Seattle for a whole hour each day watching Santa Barbara.. LOL...

Wendy:

I will admit that Obama has played political games - he has to. If he did not - he would not get the nomination or the presidency. But I don't think that completely negates his message about attempting to change the politics of Washington. You have to change the system from within.

He speaks about tamping down the partisan politics of the past, he has set records in terms of raising money with small donors instead of fat cats, and he has inspired a ton of people who hated politics to actually care this year. A few political tricks here and there do not wipe all of this out.

But more importantly, people who watch NASCAR instead of MSNBC and CNN will NOT vote for Clinton.

This may be because they are "stupid" "sexist" and "uninformed" - but their votes count just the same in the general election.

Warren

"a lot of uninformed people support Obama"

Isn't this what got us Shrub?

The media hasn't done their job, and now is probably too late, but I want all candidates for President examined all the way down to their wisdom teeth.

They should be forced to fill out the job application that every government employee must face, a psych exam, a physical, and a full security check of their background for the last 30 years.

She seemed to have more of the mental health issues. It was Eve Capwell (Marcy Walker aka the former Mrs Billy Warlock of Baywaytch fame) that was always getting kidnapped...by Arab sheiks/ terrorists no less...

9/11 yes he was for two seasons. He played Mr. Michael Nicholson. Also during those two years was Rose Marie playing Doris' best friend Myrna Gibbons.

As I recall, and realize I was very young then, Maclean left the show to be the commander in the TV series MASH...

It must be a boring politics day if I am talking about this stuff... Currently I am watching THAT GIRL and MARY TYLER MOORE SHOW dvds. I have gone through 4 years of Doris Day and have to still buy season 5.

I am sure many are fricking bored by this discussion, but sometimes the enthusiasm takes a life of it's own... sorry xoxoxoxox

Hey folks, please do me a favor...

I use Microsoft Outlook as an email client at work. It seems that if you put Obama into an email, Osama is the default preference for the spell checker. On this site, we get Alabama as the first choice.

Is anyone else encountering this anomaly?

Warren, the sad thing is that many, if not most, of the new voters will become disillusioned by the second year of his first term should he be elected.

Warren:

I agree - one foot in and one foot out (Billy Bragg).

I don't see Clinton claiming to be different - she simply says she knows what it takes to win. When confronted with lobbyist and PAC accusations - she shrugs her shoulders - that's what it takes. She's a fighter, understands the system, is not trying to sell everyone on some illusion of change, she simply knows how to get things done and has been praised by colleagues in the Senate on both sides of the aisle for her ability to work with others. So much for he's the only uniter argument.

Obama does it too trying to twist and turn around the lobbyist and PAC issue I dont take it their familes give it to me so that's not taking it - but my PAC is trying to buy superdelegates (so WHAT Barack - just shrug your shourlders like Clinton does).

I know what I get with Hillary - I have NO illusions about her.
With Obama it's all empty words that are meaningless to me as I see him say one thing and have done or is currently doing another.

Believe it or not I don't have her on a pedestal - I just know she's the one to get it done.

Perhaps you can point me to a poll that shows that NASCAR voters will vote for Obama - I know NASCAR voters and they're not voting democrat. But I haven't seen any national numbers on NASCAR Moms and Dads 4 Obama. I'm glad however we are adding them as one of our major voting blocks that we have to take into consideration when choosing our nominee. Makes perfect sense to me.

Ugh.

I'm at work and dont have time to scroll and check..who the heck is Sinclair?

Eurotom,

It's a passion which hurts no one... and which mistakes no one for its toilet.

Have you ever read Ken Levine's blog? He is partner in one of the absolute best sitcom writer teams ever, Levine & Isaac... as well as a damn good, smart and funny pro baseball play by play guy on the radio.

http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/

sinclair is the cheeky little sod who's claimed to do drugs and have gay sex with obama

Much of Obama's support is "soft". The Repubs will destroy him! My problem with the Clinton campaign is that they have been so easy on Obama. I understand why - about Dem party unity (not turning off the black vote needed in Nov). The Obama campaign has been far nastier-played the race card with the help of MSM. Hillary's surrogates should have used "brass knuckles" on Obama-then we would see just how tough he is in a real fight. This has been a wimpy campaign for Dems and Repubs. But wait until the General. Hillary and McCain are both tough, Obama is a pampered weakling.

Jamie:

Neither Hillary, Obama or even McCain compare to the incompetency of Bush.

And like I said, there are plenty of Obama supporters who have kicked the tires just as you suggest - and we still support him.

People keep saying - Bush won because he was the candidate you would want to have a beer with - so we need to completely eliminate this as a means to elect a President.

I agree Bush has been a nightmare - but that does not eliminate one of the most time-honored traditions of picking a President. What this gets at is - do you feel the candidate can relate to you. That will always be important to people.

Hillary has been one of the most famous women in the world and has lived in the bubble that creates for the last 20 years. She might be dead on with respect to certain policies - but she does not connect with a large part of America.

Flatus:

Talk to me in 2012. Or else let me look into that crystal ball of yours...

I think she connects with a large part of America

Wendy-
at 4:00 you posted all the reasons I think Hillary is best suited for the Senate- she would be a terrific Senate Majority Leader- put her in this year, keep Pelosi and Obama and what a picture at the State of the Union next year.

Plus the claim of "she knows what it takes to win" has not been born out by the facts.

Bear- yes we all get Osama. It's getting old!

Wendy:

I am sure that many of the white men that are voting for Obama in the primaries watch NASCAR and will vote for him in the general.

I find it much harder to imagine that all the women voting for Hillary will vote for McCain and his free-market-less-government philosophy and his hawkish stance on Foreign Policy.

It's also pretty obvious as well that Barack does not connect with a large part of America.

Warren,

"Talk to me in 2012. Or else let me look into that crystal ball of yours..."

God willing.

tylenol,

Sinclair is also one of the participants on my new VH-1 series, Nonentity Rehab.

lot's of vacuum in the phrase "doesnt connect with a large part of America....."

anyone worth their salt is going to have high negatives..........

Bear,

the Star Telegram will have a page with all the voting places on March 3rd or 4th. Most will be school gyms or churches. If you have the orange voter registration card it will have your location number and then you can look in the paper and find your location by that number. But you really don't need the orange card to actually vote because your name will be in the big book that the election workers have. A drivers license is all you need to prove who you are.

From what I have read today after the polls close at 7pm you can return to the same voting place and that is where the caucus will be held.

yo soy Horsedooty!

I mean, except for Perry Como and Mr. Rogers

For all those here who are planning to vote for McCain or sit out Nov. if HC is not on the ballot:

From the John McCain website:

Overturning Roe v. Wade

John McCain believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned, and as president he will nominate judges who understand that courts should not be in the business of legislating from the bench. Constitutional balance would be restored by the reversal of Roe v. Wade, returning the abortion question to the individual states. The difficult issue of abortion should not be decided by judicial fiat.

"Craig Crawford, a Congressional Quarterly columnist, said the networks had no choice but to cut away from Clinton Tuesday night after Obama forced the issue. 'That was a definite violation of the etiquette of these election night dramas, where people take turns giving their speeches and don't step on each other,' he said. 'When you break a rule like that, it's a very hostile gesture.'

Question: How many other candidates in the TV age have behaved like this? Any names?

Sturg:

"It's also pretty obvious as well that Barack does not connect with a large part of America."

Yup and that large part consists of Hillary supporters and the backward-thinking Republicans who we need to kick out of Washington.

9/11 I haven't but I'll check later. it's after 10 pm here and I suddenly ready to DROP!

goodnight all... Show a little kindness...

xoxoxoxo

ET Out

so the states after the overturn of R v. Wade would be forced to decide the difficult issue of R v.Wade by judicial fiat......yep......that makes sense in McCain's World......

At the risk of being stereotyped, I know at least one NASCAR viewer who also watches MSNBC & CNN who plans to vote for Hillary in the primary and Obama if he's the dem nominee in Nov. I wouldn't make quite such broad assumptions. I don't know 2, however.

Apparently, with the 2 candidates being less than 1% apart in votes thus far, Barack doesn't connect with a large part of America, either.

9/11, thanks for the Levine link. I linked around, Very interesting.

tt

it's not killing me that she seems to be losing.....I'm disappointed as I'm sure you were when Edwards dropped out.....it's not the first time I've been disappointed by politics.....

It will "kill me" only if the democrats lose in November.

Warren,

"there are plenty of Obama supporters who have kicked the tires" You couldn't have kicked them very hard. Either that or none of the negatives (in addition to the positives) are getting through to the mad mob chanting yes we can.

The mindlessness is really scary. You have to be somewhat divorced from reality to cheer for a man proving he can blow his own nose.

I'm not accusing Obama of this, but it is what I see when I look at his audience

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMVql9RLP34

and I play with saws, not toys......

Toys? I want a Red Ryder BB Gun!

how about a little beaver tomahawk?

"TV scared me a few minutes ago, but it's apparently okay...a helicopter carrying Chuck Hagel, Joe Biden and John Kerry had to make a forced landing in Afganistan...but it was due to a snow storm. Before they said the chopper had made a forced landing, I was imagining the worst..."

same here, harbor! I only heard part of the announcement the first time around.

Lucky me , I just bought a new box of Kleenex this afternoon! Yes , folks , I live an exciting life. LOL!

Obama and issues??? Obama is all about DREAMS because he is "THE MAN".

"Toys? I want a Red Ryder BB Gun!"

hey kid..... it'll put your eye out.....

now where's Zudock when you need em......

11 in a row!

Or maybe these voters aren't considered Democrats because they live in another country.

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/campaign_delegates/2008/02/21/74393.html

Step away from the blog.

Democrats who are voting remained satisfied with either candidate. People who are not actively campaigning do not have the ill will of the campaign junkies.

Patsi...I was napping...haven't felt well today...and I woke up to hear "A helicopter carrying Senators Chuck Hagel, John Kerry and Joe Biden..." Glad it ended less ominously than it began....

Shit is starting to hit the fan...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23277147/page/2/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23279522

Bear.....right on cue for some good old GOP foriegn policy skullduggery?

can terror alerts be far behind?

kgc...God, I hope this is true! The conversation here has become tedious (and sometimes vulgar) to the point that I'm reading the list less and posting far less. Same arguments, same insults...day after day....

"Democrats who are voting remained satisfied with either candidate. People who are not actively campaigning do not have the ill will of the campaign junkies."

Bear

WW I started there among all the many other times the Serbs, Croats, and Kosovars have been at each other throats.

Charred body found inside the US embassy. If Bush doesn't respond to this hostile act on US soil...a terrorist mob attack, can Republicans claim that he has kept us safe from terrorists?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23277147/

Bear......shhhhh........he's liable to invade Lichtenstein

Jamie:

"'there are plenty of Obama supporters who have kicked the tires' You couldn't have kicked them very hard."

This condescending attitude is not working for Hillary.

And I agree with KGC - I do not think the candidate-mongers on this board are typical of the larger electorate. We have way too much fun obsessing about all the details - while most could care less.

I know Jamie...

I say we gas up the bombers and exact some "appropriate response" on those unpleasant people...

wow.... harborw.... you could have been channeling me....

I've been trying to bring a little levity in here..... seems to work in the morning.... then it's just downhill from there.....

I feel the same way..... can't believe how bored I've become with this whole election thing.....
I find myself drifting more and more to indivdual blogs..... especially if they aren't talking politics.....

I LOVED the soap opera talk in here this afternoon..... I watch One Life to Live on ABC.... used to watch All My Children..... but have been bored with it lately....

oh well...... baseball season starts real soon......

This is why Obama will win Texas...

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/voteearlyhouseparties

RR...It would be an honor to channel you...a voice of reason amidst the craziness that marks the Clinton v Obama fight....

As you so often say...

GO DEMOCRATS!!!

If anyone cares to look into McCain's life story, you'll find that he is really not a nice guy. A rage filled troublemaker all through his life. A documentary, apparently approved by him, was released not long ago that underscored many of his problems. Things he should not in any way be proud of, but somehow seems to be, Real behavioral issues. Look how he met (while married) and married Cindy, a much younger hot blond. Hmmm...see a pattern? He's a lying politician "I did NOT have sexual relations with that woman!", just like the majority of them. I have no doubt that he had a relationship with this woman. Maybe cigars or the real mccoy, who knows. If he did, well what can you say. If it was done because it aided her "positions" in her capacity as a lobbyist, then possibly it was done because of other "positions". That's the bad part, more than just a possible fling. Although, if you are supposed to be some kind of moral authority, then you should refrain. Yes, of course, he behaved admirably during his POW experience, but that doesn't put him above all the rest. It doesn't make him better than the rest of us, only in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Bear, I check out your last link. Why will he win due to this??

tt

Sturgeone,

Lichtenstein is safe for the following reasons:

1. The president won't attack the home of his favorite candy...licorice.

2. He has no clue where to find it on a map.

3. He will only spill blood for oil...

Bear ----------

Does Obama's relationship with the "Brzezinski Clan" concern you?

Donna, I don't think that McCain has the right disposition to be President. Being a POW for years would have a profound effect and create lifelong problems.

I remember reading that he's always been a womanizer.

tt

uh oh.......does that mean he'll invade saudi arabia?

I mean, no candy, knows damn well where it is, and gobs of oil.......oh lordy.......

polls? Look a little more closely at the polls they averaged - which is not particularly sound statistically at any rate. Pollster averages the last 5 - throw out Zogby, which is clearly an outlier, just as the Gallup poll two weeks earlier was, in the other direction, and it's much closer than the 3.7% spread reflected there. And I'm sure I've seen you disparage national level polls in the past - oh, but wait, that's when they favored Hillary, isn't it. But since you're so enamored of polls all of a sudden, go click on those TX, OH & PA dem polls at Pollster. But get out a box of Kleenex.

And it all depends on where you go, doesn't it?

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/02/21/clinton_obama_deadlocked_nationally.html

I was referring to the popular vote totals thus far - and my memory, being bad (and skewed I'm sure by my uncontrollable Clintonista mentality) got it wrong - Barack has gotten a whopping 1.8% more of the popular vote so far. More than half the folks who've voted so far did not vote for him or her, so drop the arrogance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2008_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

But now I have to go get the kid.

tt.....probably a lot in common with "Top Gun" although I've never seen the movie.......

bear, you may very well be right.

sturg...you make me laugh...thank you!

Jou're Velcome.

I just played the new video, great stuff!
Exposing Obama as a phony will be easy to do if HRC takes that route, as Craig speculated she may do...just watch him promising all this goodie goodie Shangra-La the US will be when he takes office.
He has to appeal to young folks because anyone over 55 has heard this all before...but even Jimmy Carter never promised outlandish gifts and avenues to easy success as does Obama.
Phon-eeeee, I say.
Obama is Jekyl and Hyde...after sweet talking like a big presidential sugar-daddy, he then sternly turns and promises to be tough to anyone who looks cross-eyed at the US. He'll invade and bomb with the best of'em, by god!

What a Wonderful World it Would Be.

Don't know much about Executive Branch
Don't know much about the Pentagon's stance

But I do know that it's mine to take
And if bullshit masks that I'm a fake

What a Wonderful World, My D.C.

Barack Obama

Tiptoe,

I find it to be an example of the superior level of organization of his campaign compared to Mrs. Clinton. There are 59 events within a half hour of my zip code. These are all private individuals hosting supporters and would be supporters. In some places they will sit around and sing kumbaya, in other places, they will make phone calls in support of the candidate.

HRC doesn't have anywhere near the number of similar events coming up, though you can hang out at the Fort Worth Chili's with them to watch the debate, meet Henry Cisneros or see Sophie B. "Damn I wish I was you Lover" Hawkins at the Dallas LGBT this weekend...

Jamie,
I enjoyed your “Betrayal “ post and watched the movie clip, nice touch and great post.

Gordo,

I don't know how many times I must answer this but here goes.

Zbignew is crazy. At the same time, I am concerned about the Russians. They want some world prominence. If you remember the ads in the back of comic books, we are the big bully and they feel like the dude we kicked sand on...I think they have been shooting more roids than Bonds, Clemens and the whole WWE combined.

I think Mika is hot...I wouldn't kick her out of bed. I'm not sure I could handle a long conversation with her but I give her points for being a local news person in an area I once lived.

The president has done well to unite our enemies against us, so I am seriously considering getting an NRA membership and then hitting the monthly gun show to stock up on my 50 cal rifle and some fully automatic assault ...err. hunting rifles.

I wonder if I get a prize for being the most liberal member of the NRA? Frydaddy, I'm sure you're a member. Please answer that for me!

Kill em all before they all kill us

I could handle a long conversation with Mika in bed.

Very funny moment on "Around The Horn" tonight on ESPN. They were talking about the NBA MVP race. Some journalist said the race was over , Lebron James was gonna win it. Tony Reali asked Woody Paige for his thoughts. Paige said. "Over? Was it over when Brazil invaded the Falkland Islands?!" Tony Reali responded with "It was Argentina , not Brazil , Woody." Woody was the first person kicked off tonight. Reali said , "It was over for you when you said Brazil." Woody closed with "Don't cry for me , Argentina."

I concur Warren...I suspect Mr. Scarborough plans morning Joe in that fashion...

Thanks, Bear. Got it now.

tt

Does no one wonder who is pulling Obama's strings? Look behind the curtain. What you see is not what you would get-much more going on.

"China is continuously following closely the possible harm caused by the U.S. action to outer space security and relevant countries,"

If only they were so diligent when it comes to the food and toys they sell us...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23280280/

Perhaps they are more diligent than you realize, Bear...a method to their poison?

GORDO,

If Satan himself was pulling Obama's strings, would there be any doubt that he would still be an improvement over the current administration?

Guess what else GORDO..."THE SKY IS FALLING!!!"

Bear said:

"I wonder if I get a prize for being the most liberal member of the NRA? Frydaddy, I'm sure you're a member. Please answer that for me!"

Remind me of my little sister who once discribed herself as
"Rush Limbaughs worst night mare , A feminist armed with an AK 47 and a box of ammo."

Jack

Bear ------------

Believe it or not----things can always get worse!

On the contrary , Gordo!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJE5cBGgTSU

"This condescending attitude is not working for Hillary."

Warren,

It isn't just the Obama people. I know how dangerous a mob mentality can be and it worries me when anyone in power for any reason encourages the behavior.

Warren wrote:

"but she does not connect with a large part of America."

Warren - you know this isn't true. She is only slightly behind Obama in the popular vote- so she has obviously "connected" with nearly as many people as Obama (and again, we are not sure how much of his crossover support is genuine vs. republican BS - I know not all of it is BS some is actually genuine but still).

Do you all believe that the public is told what is really going on? Wish it were so. The world is a stage etc.

William Grimes in today's both timely and timeless NYT Book Review:

In his searching and illuminating “Lincoln and Douglas” the eminent Lincoln historian Allen C. Guelzo does the great service of bringing the debates back down to earth, placing them in the context of a brutal four-month senatorial campaign.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/20/books/20grimes.html

Well - I am "hope"ing this debate isn't boring.

Pogo wrote: "I was referring to the popular vote totals thus far...More than half the folks who've voted so far did not vote for him or her, so drop the arrogance."

Pogo - I think your wonderful

:-D

"Turnout on the first day of early voting was up all across Texas, according to initial numbers from the Secretary of State's office. But Houston and Dallas were off the charts -- the numbers show a 10-fold increase over 2004. In Harris County four years ago, only 728 people showed up for the Democratic primary on the first day of early voting. Yesterday it was 9,243."

This sounds amazing!

pulled from a HuffPo article

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/16/texas-primary-latest-new_n_86930.html

"But it is a serious distortion to say Obama wants to "attack Pakistan," as President Bush did (((McCain didn't say that..please/my commetn))), and an even more serious one that he supports "bombing Pakistan," as McCain did. (Indeed, all Obama said was that he would "act.")

For the U.S. to bomb Pakistan would essentially be no different from the U.S. bombing Mexico or Great Britain, two other allies" Fact Check

So Fact Check has become a tool. I suggest everyone reads Obama's August speech which Fact Check did not post.. Obama says he wuld pull our resources and materials from Iraq (clearly troops and weapons)and put them into the "battle field of Afghnaistan and Pakistan". He talked about all the terrorists who operate in Pakistan and striking them when there is actionable intelligence which was, at the time already Bush policy. Remember the strike on a terrirst school? Another strike on a wedding party was decried by the Left. So Obama clearly talks about striking thousands of terrorists in Pakistan though his advisor Rice now says he meant only in border areas. Well we all know they are also right up the Kyber Pass.

Fact Check is now covering for Obama while the NYT, who had their McCain story when they endorsed Hillary and McCain., run it now...LOL They didn't run the story then? And they surely knew he voted twelve times against the interests of the lobbyist. What a crock. So the NYT endorsed two candidates they attack which should make it clear to what extent the Liberal Press (and I'm a Liberal) has been co-opted in a partisan struggle to hit the Republicans and promote Obama. Bad journalism period.

Bhutto's husband (a crook) and Sharif ( a wonder) shake hands and tell Obama where he can put his missiles and bombs...LOL Give Zbig a chance and he'll do for the Shah and the people of Iran, what he'll advise Obama to do to Musharraf and the people of Pakistan. Good job. Carter Redux on a hope and promise......

Bear,

You might be suprised that there alot of gun owners that don't fit the "crazed right wing wacko" mode. So go wild, go to a gun show, get some guns. Because I support the reight to arm Bears!!!

Of course there are also many lefties that talk a good game but probably secretly vote republican. Especially the rich ones that want to preserve their capital.

Bear,

You might be suprised that there alot of gun owners that don't fit the "crazed right wing wacko" mode. So go wild, go to a gun show, get some guns. Because I support the right to arm Bears!!!

Of course there are also many lefties that talk a good game but probably secretly vote republican. Especially the rich ones that want to preserve their capital.

Looks like the first ad the American Leadership Project (527) is pretty positive. Doesn't mention Obama by name - takes a little swipe at him - more like a love tap - and then talks about her accomplishments.

Yep - that's slimy alright.

Obama Wins Democrats Abroad Primary

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/022108I.shtml

Interesting report on Texas voting so far and early trends

http://prof13.abc13.com/2008/02/early-vote-patt.html

Sheesh that's what I get for not reading all the way down. Maxtrue already had my conspiracy. .. and I was feeling so creative. :-(

What happens to the Trail Mix when ( if ) it becomes only McCain and Obama ?

burrito asked: "What happens to the Trail Mix when ( if ) it becomes only McCain and Obama ?"

I don't know...just a bag of nuts?

:-D

Joke - heading home to watch the debate.

Craig.. I'm wayyy jealous of your tv room.. we still have one of those GIANT box tv's ... we got it on deep sale when everyone else was spending their life savings on LCD's... we still have way too much crap in our livingroom too... something about a family of four living in a flat.. everything EXPLODES every 6 months and then we toss everything into one of those giant containers... i think we're at 5 1/2 months now..and stuff's piling up in our hallway.. lol

Gordo I'm about to say something to you I've never said to another human being.

Thank you for supporting Hillary!

LMAO

The events in Serbia could influence the direction of the debate tonight. This may very well play to Clintons strength. Not sure, because Obama seems to have some alien cloaking device that deflects any criticism. But tonight, Hillary has her back to the wall, and just like when an animal is backed into a corner, she will be very dangerous and aggressive. Obama will need to be on his toes tonight. Here is a little preview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua3M1O-WQrM

think it's time for Obama to let David Axlerod be his running mate? seems to be the one doing the speaking.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqutz5ASDSA

Burrito

We go back to commenting on Craig's articles and appearances, socializing. Discussing the news of the day and talking about a whole lot of other topics.

Right at the moment ... let the bloodletting begin.

I'm off to dinner with birthday son.

Tweety just refedrred to the lobbyist in the McCain story as ..."the girl."

and we go back to talking about sex when Corey's at work..

Just Words. Just Not Obama's. Part 3.
(another rip-off)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqutz5ASDSA&eurl=http://www.taylormarsh.com/

tylenol

Sex isn't what comes to mind when I hear Tweety use the word "girl." unless harassment is the next word.

In honor of tonite's debate! Viva Obama! :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fd-MVU4vtU

Wow, I didn't expect to see blood....that was one happy Badger!

oh lordy, KGC... I certainly didnt mean to put 'sex' and 'tweety' into the same convo

tylenol
I am very relieve to hear that.

In the battle to make sure people can get health care
the City of SF has won another battle against the Committee for Sensible Shoes(The Golden Gate Restaurant Associaton)

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/21/BAEKV6KF2.DTL&tsp=1

Just for fun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqOHquOkpaU

New Thread

Here's one for the "sisters"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZliC14QUY0Y

kgc...God, I hope this is true! The conversation here has become tedious (and sometimes vulgar) to the point that I'm reading the list less and posting far less. Same arguments, same insults...day after day....

I hear you harborwoman... That's why I went off on my soap opera tangent. Well, unconsciously... :-)