Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Did I Get In First?

That hasn't happened in a while.

Today is The Day The Music Died, and I found a really good video on You Tube.

http://jdruward.blogspot.com

Good morning,Craig....you answered my question from yesterday's thread...you are working today. My mind is really full of it today as I am fueled by two of the finest liquids in the universe...coffee and red wine.

Mitt's Morph...I love alliteration...and I live in the tri-state area...New Mexico, Texas and Chihuahua (yes, where they make the dogs and yes it is Mexico). And Mitt's many branched family tree hails back to Chihuahua where the polygamist family fled....I believe Mitt has some Mexican blood in him and I never understood why he does bring that up? I think it is a plus and that is "where" he gets his good, dark 'looks'

Typo again! Why doesn't Mitt allude to his Mexican past??

Great column. Especially thanks for pointing out Mittens "who let the dogs out" moment came on MLK Day

The media made it just more fun and games with the Mittster instead of how tone deaf it was. Especially dishonest compared to the false bashing on race both the former president and Senator Clinton took.

All I see now are pissed off people all the way around.
There was almost a fist fight at a birthday party last night. It will be very hard to repair the damage done.

And now the self cannonized Saint Nader is looking to come in and tell us all how far we have strayed from the path of virtue.

Funny, Craig. A Kennedy endorsement? Perhaps William Kennedy Smith - my recollection is that he and Mitt have the same haircut.

Who let the Chihuahua out?

I think if MR wasn't such a phony, he might have really been some competition for the Dems. I really think he should embrace his past...flaunt it...instead of trying to be something he isn't. Flipping and flopping like a fish out of water, huh?

Well Mitt did get the "good looking Republican" endorsement in Tom Selleck. At least Tom, as an accountant, can help him with his tax policy.

Can we all agree, Obama and Clinton followers alike, that Ralph Nader should just go away?

I wish Nader had gone away in 2000.

I'm sure your concern is because he as attacked Obama for being shallow and is threatening to run especially if Obama is the candidate. and makes fun of the youth cult

This is Obama's problem. When Clinton has problems with the media etc Obama just takes advantage so don't come over looking for help.

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Blonde wino,
That was you yelling at Bob Palmer back in '72? Who knew?

dnd...nope....it was 1976

Meet the Press was enjoyable this morning

Calif. could decide if it's Obama or Hillary

Calif could goe either way and make for an interesting night

Hubby is watching BONBC...Tim Russert...are there dogs on Tucker's tie???

Obama commercials have been all over the morning news shows and I've only seen one Clinton. Is the majority of her national buy running on the "women's"
channels?

I haven't seen any HRC commercials here in New Mexico. Nor direct mail...BO has sent me at least four glossy, direct mail pieces. And I have been telemarketed by BO supporters. I know southern New Mexico (read Mexico) gets network feeds from Texas (they are not part of super, duper FAT Tuesday).

But, we love BR in this part of the country as he was one of the first governors to aknowledge southern New Mexico. It's not all about Albuquerque and Santa Fe for us.

Slyvestre Reyes (TX) endorsed HRC. : )

Maybe she is saving all her money to pay for that Hallmark thing on Monday night

Calif to to close to call, could go either way. Interesting what the numbers will be tomorrow. Zogby is on C-Span now

It does not matter if we like it or not the candidates will target the people they need.

It's how the game is played.

Brain in NYC

I do not trust Zogby anymore...they dropped me from the polling...not what they used to be.

cnn.com is carrying all the rallies

Don't forget California is home to the Bradley effect
you might as well start flinging poo now

How can 1100 people tell us what millions may vote?

KGC

Flinging poop!? Like Mitt's dog (on the roof of his family truckster) onto the traffic behind him!

Blonde wino

Are you near Silver City ? My BFF from grade school lives there. She is BR appointee to a state board.

Yes...Las Cruces.

to the Blonde wino,

what part of NM are you in? I am in FT Worth.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Interesting graphic from the McClatchy folks
Look at the Hispanic vote in arizona going for Obama and in California they are going for Clinton.
other fun stuff too. For me any way.
http://media.mcclatchydc.com/static/pdf/poll/020308keydemo.pdf

Jack

Yes, I live close to the holy land (Hatch -- the green chile capital of the world -- it's "what" makes my hair blonde!).

For the whole story on the poll go to the McClatchy web site. BTW a good way to get out of the east coast bubble that is MSM. McClatchy has papers nation wide.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/

Jack

The last time I was there I made my friend drive us to Hatch even though it wasn't chili festival time. I had the name of a restaurant I wanted to try so off we went.
It was quite the adventure. I don't think they get too many visitors other times of years. We walked into one place and everyone looked at us like we were from immigration.

Thanks, WJack.

the esposa and I always buy up a mess of Hatch chiles. We have a big store here in town called Central Market and they have a lot of stuff the chains have not thought of buying and their produce seems fresher so even though it costs a tad more we drive over. Hatch certainly grows the best of the best Green Chiles.

yo soy Horsedooty!

KGC

: ) There are actually more Border Patrol agents in NYC than anywhere else...did you know that Brain?

Blonde, have you visited Dada's Dally blog? He lives in El Paso on the western side nearer the NM border. Silver City, by the way, is way over on the western border near Arizona on US 60, home to Western NM State University. Love Las Cruces and El Senor restaurant orginally from Deming.

OK, everyone, have a nice day watching the Super Bowl from rainy and cold Phoenix. Well, warmer than NY or Boston anyway!

Make that Si Senor restaurant.

I can't imagine they thought we really were agents

just two old ladies who looked like the michelin men in our down attire.

I know where Silver City is...get your atlas out....El Paso is 45 miles from where I live and Deming is 55 miles. And Sliver City is mostly north and a bit west of Deming. But, I am 225 miles from Albuquerque and over 300 miles from Santa Fe. This is all considered part of SOUTHERN NEW MEXICO.

I have traveled the Gila and I live here.

Si Senor in Las Cruces is a good eat...good margaritas, too. Happy Hour starts early there! There is a more than one Si Senor and there used to be one in Alamogordo.

in those little small town diners, new people are alway looked upon with suspicion because they don't get to see new people very often. By the third visit, they will know everything about you.

Boy, it is 71F here today. I really need to get out and enjoy the day. Truck in the shop so I will stay home and veg.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Horsedooty...you are right about that...it helps if you do not have ICE plastered on your jacket or t-shirt.

tt...
So I don't forget I have a question for you.

On your clist map to the left of dnd and northeasterly I noticed a black hole. My question is, is that were the Dark Lord Dick {Heinrich Himmler} Cheney lives?

God Bless.

anon-paranoid and tt

SInce I am new...what is the "map" I keep hearing about???

Have you guys heard of Mennonite cheese?

Blond,

I haven't been to New Mexico is about 50 years, but one of my favorite places was Cloudcroft. Still have some friends living in the state, but can't imagine how much it must have changed.

The Obama "could have cashed in" commercial is running. This is the one they had to change. It used to be "could have taken a 500,000 a year job out of college" until someone asked if he had a job offer for that much. :-)

jamie

Cloudcroft is pretty much the same, but Ruidoso is huge. NM added casinos to all of their racetracks and it has attracted more than skiiers to the area. Ruidoso still is the fav of rich Texans.

Blonde wino...
It's a map of all regulars who have been with Craig for a long time.

Here is the link for the map blow. Just put your mouse over the dots to see where we live.

http://isleofran.org/clist.htm

God Bless.

Thanks a-p.

Shouldn't Craig Crawford's dot be transparent or white since he is non voting.?

Nice map...I can actually see the rift valley where I live. I guess I need to do some more exploring on this site.

I also spotted White Sands.

Winds are really up today which usually means tornadoes tomorrow for some unfortunate souls in the southeastern US.

Hi all...

I posted a blog entry on my blog in response to my best friend's support of Obama. You sort of have to read it from bottom to top.. LOL

If you are interested, check: http://eurotom.blogspot.com/2008_02_03_archive.html

If you are a MYSPACE member, go to http://www.myspace.com/eurotom and click on "blog" I prefer MySpace because it's easy to offer comments.

I am currently being punished by my internet provider as I went over the maximum bandwidth for the month.. New month begins 6 or 7 February so... grrrr.

I am around, just not much.

back when I was young and bullet proof I hitched from Lordsburg, NM to El Paso to Austin and then back up to Fort Worth took 3 and 1/2 days this was like in 1974.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Hatch? Feh. The white bread of chile's... Everyone knows the best chile's come from Pueblo, CO.

Of course I've got a bushel of roasted Hatch in my freezer... ;) Got some Espanola and Sandia's too. Time to make some chile...

dnd...my hubby is from Rocky Ford..let's talk melons.

a-p

Thanks for making me check out more than the blog...I just found out the there is only ONE elected repug woman in New Mexico (all the rest are dems)...scumbag, Heather Wilson. I sure wish the Justice department would really investigate her.

Blonde, I stand corrected on two accounts. Silver City is on NM 90 not US 60 and it's a mere 111 miles west from Las Cruces and about 60 miles to the AZ border. Sorry.

eprof2

Your are a scholar, thank you. I think the bootheels tripped you up!

In fact one of the best places in New Mexico is the bootheel on the border of Chihuahua, Arizona and New Mexico. The road actually dies just a bit north of the border. The locals take to changing the road signs...like Dip in the Road...they paint "Skinny" on top of Dip in the Road. I first read about it in National Geographic about 15 years ago. I went there and it was true....the road signs are all changed.

It is also the kind of place that Dobbs, Chertoff and Hannity would sh*t their pants.

Oh Craig! ROFLMAO @ today's post, here NOT at WaPo.

Morph, shape-shifting, Kenyan molecule.

*in tears here*

Oh, Romney's 'dog' thang was sooo lame!

tt

KGC, a white dot, eh? Interesting thought.

ran??

tt

Euro-Tom

I read your blog response to Curt. You are awesome.

OH Thank you thank you! You really think so? I am so tired today so I wasn't sure if it flowed or not. Too much wine, champagne and martinis last night.

I think I might have taken that road on the way to El Paso from Columbus, NM. I would have sworn we were in Mexico several times that day. Yes, Lou Dobbs and everyone north of the borderlands would have a fit over the openness of our two countries. Isn't it strange that the further north people live from the border the more they support fences and other measures to stop migration. I'm not saying everything is honky-dorry in the fusion of cultures along this vast stretch of land. There are problems for sure. However, the situation is being scapegoated for pure political reasons.

Have you seen the film, The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada with Tommy Lee Jones 2006? I have a feeling you'd like it.

back when I was young and bullet proof I hitched from Lordsburg, NM to El Paso to Austin and then back up to Fort Worth took 3 and 1/2 days this was like in 1974.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Looking at the Democratic polls there appears to be a lot of people like me, in the undecided category. 10%+ in most polls.

Do we vote tuesday or do we stay home and let you crazy partisans fight it out.

Of course I can always vote Republican in Missouri and stir up a little trouble. Hmmm I wonder if I should vote Romney or Huckabee?

Jack

eprof2

Yes we really loved the movie...I saw it about a month ago. And until you live here (I have been here for 15 years), you have no idea what the border is about.

BR doesn't want the fence. The great wall never helped China. What a waste of money. Why do repugs want to waste so much money on things instead of peeps????

I just love the border...so many great tales. When I first moved here a band of Mexicans on horseback robbed the train of electronics...tvs, etc. And they got away with it.

I have taken the train from El Paso (Amtrack) west to Tucson and when you pass Anapra, Mexico (just west of El Paso), you can almost touch the border. It is a sleazy wooden and broken down fence.

Jack, good question about voting on Tuesday even thought TX isn't until next month. I've been thinking the same thing about the crazy partisans.

tt

Glad you liked the film. I agree with you whole heartedly on the attitude of folks who don't live here.

Checking out to go Super Bowl party.

tt...
So, is that the Dark Lord's hole?

God Bless.

eprof2

It sounds like you took the road that leads to Palomas, Mexico...I am talking about the road further west...to Janos, Mexico. I believe it is county road 338 south of Animas, New Mexico.

Back in the 1970s I went to Naco, Mexico...from Bisbee (one of my fav places). Another one of those unpopulated border towns.

Tis party time for most...be safe and have fun...I am looking forward to the big game on Super, Duper FAT Tuesday.

Just talked to my brother in Denver (sort they live in some sort of hole in the middle of Denver created to thwart busing before their time) but he and his wife are going to the caucuses. My SIL in a Presbyterian elder she should do very well in the caucus setting.

They are uncommitted and have promised a full report.

Eprof2 said questioningly, "Have you seen the film, The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada with Tommy Lee Jones 2006? I have a feeling you'd like it."

Eprof2,
this is one of my favorite movies. I got a DVD of my own at Christmas a couple of years ago. I also like the movie "All the Pretty Horses" but for a much different reason.

The fence is a 19th century solution to a 21first problem (if it can be considered a problem?)

yo soy Horsedooty!

yo soy Horsedooty!

Horsedooty

So correct. Again, we are ignoring throwing some of that money at us peeps instead of things.

A friend of mine on MySpace wrote this in regards to the NOW NY statement re: Teddy endorsing Obama... and my lament over it. It's short so I will post it here. VERY SOON OFF TO BED! Open shop at 6 am

xoxoxxoxox ET

I've said it before, and this only bears it out - Washington/politics is still a club of "good old boys" who believe a woman's place is in the home, barefoot and pregnant. They'll never endorse or accept a woman with the ultimate power in this country. I'm still shocked they're endorsing a black candidate! I figured they'd all be falling over themselves to endorse Edwards. Women in the U.S. are still second class citizens and while some of them have made it in Congress, I fear it will still be a long time before we see one running things from the White House. Nevermind that many countries around the world have had women leaders, it just proves how backwards we still are in America. Women in power, universal health care, gay marriage - they'll all be a long time coming, unfortunately. But I hope I'm proven wrong!!

Hi all

I just got back from a clinton rally in spfd,mo. It was cool to see so much excitement about the elect. He was definitely on last night.

Yep, anon, it is.

tt

Bill i mean---Hillary was doing that thing on mtv.

Kate Michelman endorses Obama-

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kate-michelman/why-im-endorsing-barack-_b_84658.html

Brain in NYC

Of course.

Brain In NYC

You do sound so constricted...you need to spend a day on the border (of anywhere)!

I can accept how you feel, but you just do not seem to be able to accept how others feel. It's all valid.

And Garisson Keillor too

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080203/ap_on_el_pr/keillor_obama

Doing a lot of searching today. On-line and off-line. I found this. My apologies to any Leonard Cohen fans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOALD-POwNo

Southern California edorsements for Clinton

The Long Beach Paper
and Rep Joe Baca

Naco is not uninhabited now Blonde. First time I went the people I was with had nice dinner (in a border way not in a NYC sorta way). I was there on this side of the border about 3 years ago and it was very built up.

I have a pretty good amigo that teaches Art at Cochise College in Douglas, Az and lives in Bisbee.. He has called Bisbee the largest outdoor Sanatorium in the world. It was he I was moving from FtW to Bisbee in 1974 when he went to work for that college.

do you know of a singer/songwriter named Tom Russell? He lives just outside near the rio in west El Paso. Here he is singing his song "Whose Gonna Build You Wall?" Topical cowboy song.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZIQeG8izfBc

yo soy Horsedooty!

Clinton Gains Texas Endorsements
Reps. Solomon Ortiz of Corpus Christi, the dean of the Texas Democratic delegation, and Gene Green of Houston, who is Anglo but represents a district in which Hispanics dominate, announced their endorsements, joining four colleagues who had already thrown their support to Mrs. Clinton.

Both had backed New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, as had another Clinton supporter, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Silvestre Reyes of El Paso. The Texas Clinton team also includes Reps. Henry Cuellar of Laredo, Rubén Hinojosa of Mercedes, and Sheila Jackson Lee of Houston, one of Mrs. Clinton's most prominent black supporters, who is stumping this weekend for her in California.

From Kathy

"Kate Michelman endorses Obama"

Very Nice. ;0)

Corey

OMG...I remember seeing Leonard Cohen in Denver in the 70s...it was at a small club and he talked about Janis Joplin most of the night.

THE AMERICAN NURSES ASSOCIATION ENDORSES
SENATOR HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON (D-NY)

SILVER SPRING, MD -The Clinton Campaign today announced the endorsement of the American Nurses Association (ANA). The ANA represents the interests of the nation's 2.9 million registered nurses.
1/28/2008

Kathy

And Garisson Keillor too

Awe...Just plain homey kinda ;0)

Blonde wino,
Ah.... Rocky Ford melons. None better anywhere...

Horsedoody

I am shocked about Naco...I was there in '76. Thanks for educating me...that is what I love about this blog.

HD

thanks for the Tom Russell link...my hubby likes him.

Kate Michelson was for Edwards first I thought. Does she feel that Hillary will not protect a woman's right to choose? Anyone know who Eleanor Smeal supports?

Maybe we should speculate on what Obama offered Michelman for her endorsement.

EuroTom

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1107/6691.html

KGC maybe BIG and POWERFUL things!

Pro-Clinton push poll erupts in California

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/02/breaking-news-p.html

right it's only funny when you make the joke

Largest Rally in the History of Delaware...

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/3/151846/8907/497/449011

There Kathy, Back attcha

must be the world's slowest eruption since the story was written before Edwards dropped out and there is no evidence the poll is paid for by Clinton

Should we start talking about 527's and their role
Obama slammed Edwards for them and now has them doing his dirty work in the bay area.

The wind has really picked-up...I predict killer tornadoes tomorrow east of here.

Too all the folks talking about the border:

Your conversation reminds me of when I was still framing houses, a couple of years ago. We had a mixed Mexican/ Anglo crew. One of the young men told of his trip up here when he was 14. this would have been the mid ninties. His older brother came up first and learned the route. He then came back for his brothers and brought neighbors with him. listening to his story made me realize that there is no way to seal the border. They will just find another way.

Jack

Interesting little Diary about canvasing upstate NY from Daily Kos....

Obama GOTV – Upstate NY

Obama appears to have a somewhat greater effort and is getting a somewhat warmer reception in Upstate New York than I expected. It also appears that Hillary is not doing much upstate and appears to be considering Upstate NY as a given. Its hard to gauge, but it seems that Obama is mounting a strong offensive in New York and Hillary may be taking it for granted

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/3/155034/5302/485/449031

What I find depressing is that there are still people who actually believe push polls and aren't smart enough to know when they are hearing one.

NY Polls
Date Sample Clinton Obama Spread
RCP Average 01/23 - 02/01 - 53.8 33.5 Clinton +20.3
Rasmussen 01/31 - 02/01 799 LV 51 30 Clinton +21.0
SurveyUSA 01/30 - 01/31 950 LV 54 38 Clinton +16.0
WNBC/Marist 01/30 - 01/31 409 LV 54 38 Clinton +16.0
USA Today/Gallup 01/23 - 01/26 767 HT 56 28 Clinton +28.0

I don't play tennis but I do play squash.

and I would like an Arnold Palmer please

but I wouldn't mind hanging out with the two of you ..especially if one of you is cooking.

;0) Thanks Katie

No too be the fashion police or anything but Alicia Keyes is wearing some really ugly and unflattering pants

Blonde Wino......is the Princess Drive-in still there in Las Cruces, across from the Taco Bell?

sturgeone

I think the building is still there, but not open as a food place....may be a car lot now...it is one of those places I drive by and really do not see. : )

I will get back to you on that...

I have to prepare food for the Super Bowl...have fun all.

Any close observer Of Mitt Romneys tenure as Gov.will tell you that the pro-abortion and pro-homosexual forces never lost any battles under his tenure and that in fact, they grew in power and influence. Romney did nothing to restrain the groups who have launched a jihad on America’s Judeo-Christian culture.

On so many occasions, the liberal agenda could have been slowed down or even defeated with the smallest internal regulatory decision or executive order and yet he never used the power he had to do that. He gave up the battlefield to our enemies over and over again.

This is why every conservative in America needs to question his overly hyped conversion to conservatism. How can we trust a man who has done so much damage to causes dear to our hearts who has suddenly become a conservative only after deciding to run for President?

Fourteen years ago the country was duped by a charming, smooth talking “moderate” Democrat named Bill Clinton who used the power of the Presidency to inflict great damage to America’s military, to our intelligence agencies, and to our culture. The gap between how Clinton appeared to most Americans and how he really governed was huge. We cannot afford another President like that.

another interesting graphic from th McClatchy web site
This one on money raised by Dems and Reps.

http://media.mcclatchydc.com/smedia/2008/02/01/19/893-20080201-FUNDRAISING.large.prod_affiliate.91.jpg

Also an interesting article about the banking industries contribution to the candidates.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/26096.html

Jack

Fred Honey......LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Your Dramtic and funny. Thanks!

Another example of Obama supporters having a weird sense of humor. I don't think Fred Tallman meant that as a joke.

One More cow

Fred is a Troll....

What makes Fred a troll?

Myerson has withdrawn his original blog post about the alleged push poll

http://www.taylormarsh.com/

all the screen shots of the original post etc

I guess we know who will do anything to win

Maria Shriver on stage with Michelle Obama , Oprah and Caroline on C-Span

Fred

"who used the power of the Presidency to inflict great damage to America’s military, to our intelligence agencies, and to our culture."

You've obviously had a a seven year nap.

One more cow.

Someone who we don't know that comes here for the purpose or making arguements. They are usually saying something so outrageously untrue, and mean spirited.

Sheila

What did Fred say that was untrue. He sounds like a Huckabee supporter.

Ahhhnold and Maria and Oprah had a big love fest during the recall. Californian's are not in love with her
and many don't like her at all. Especially Democrats.

They should have stopped at Caroline

Gotcha Fred,
Huckabee it is, he's got my vote on Tuesday.

Whew , I'm glad that 's settled all the indecision was driving me crazy.

Jack

Mr. Obama scolded Exelon and federal regulators for inaction and introduced a bill to require all plant owners to notify state and local authorities immediately of even small leaks. He has boasted of it on the campaign trail, telling a crowd in Iowa in December that it was “the only nuclear legislation that I’ve passed.”

“I just did that last year,” he said, to murmurs of approval.

A close look at the path his legislation took tells a very different story. While he initially fought to advance his bill, even holding up a presidential nomination to try to force a hearing on it, Mr. Obama eventually rewrote it to reflect changes sought by Senate Republicans, Exelon and nuclear regulators. The new bill removed language mandating prompt reporting and simply offered guidance to regulators, whom it charged with addressing the issue of unreported leaks. ... ..

Nuclear Leaks and Response Tested Obama in Senate http://www.taylormarsh.com/

By falsely accusing Clinton of playing the "race card," Wash. Post columnist Meyerson himself fueled "race card" politics he calls "despicabl[e]"
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802030005

Will Tweety be indignant as he was when he felt the Plunger was falsely accused.

Gordo-

I read that article about Obama, and it was not flattering. To me, it points to 2 main issues: first, he is beholden to special interests just like all politicians. He is not changing the page on the politics of old.

Second, even if we give him the benefit of doubt about being in bed with special interests, he is compltely ineffective at being a senator.

Hi All-

I have to say that these endorsements from the Kennedys are getting old. It's as if this is a popularity contest rather than a campaign on ideas.

I am also confused about these endorsements. Isn't the candidate who is different because he not part of Washington politics? Yet, these establishment endorsements place right in the center of it.

Granted, the Kennedys's endorsements certainly perpetuate this notion of Camelot.

PRO-CLINTON PUSH POLL?
Andrew Malcolm of the Los Angeles Times reports evidence of a pro-Clinton "push poll" in California, or as he defines it, "malicious political virus that is designed not to elicit answers but to spread positive information about one candidate and negative information about all others under the guise of an honest poll." In this case, however, the only specific negative message that Coughlin reports is the attack on Barack Obama for his "present" votes in the Illinois legislature. Both Clinton and Edwards raised that issue openly in the South Carolina debate.
So far, at least, Malcolm's claim to have uncovered a "malicious political virus" operating "under the guise of an honest poll" is not supported by the facts reported.http://www.pollster.com/blogs/proclinton_push_poll.php

One More Cow,

Fourteen years ago the country was duped by a charming, smooth talking “moderate” Democrat named Bill Clinton who used the power of the Presidency to inflict great damage to America’s military

""""The Bush Adminstration Started the Military Draw Down becuase the Public was pushing for it. Less money. Smaller Government, Cold War was over, pay for Gulf War I etc......I was in the White House and witnessed this. Clinton had to finish it by law.

Before Clinton came into office, a piece of legislation had been put forward to allow gays to serve openly in the Military. After Clinton took office,

"""""The Military pushed back strenously and so CLinton ered on the side of something agreeable with both sides at the time. Don't Ask Don't Tell Policy.""""

, to our intelligence agencies,............(No such damage occured until the Bush Adminstration cut these agencies off at their knees.)

............ and to our culture. (No such occurance unless you count Monica, but I don't think so).

The gap between how Clinton appeared to most Americans and how he really governed was huge.....(He may have lied about an afair, but he was also transparent to the American People and that again is so different from Bush.

We cannot afford another President like BUSH.

Bill Clinton was not my favorite President. But there is no question that we prospered and probably would have stopped 9/11 before it even happened.....

One More Cow, Hope I have helped.

Here is the link:: http://www.pollster.com/blogs/proclinton_push_poll.php

Judgement VS. Experience

The problem that I have with Obama's argument concerning judgement versus experience is that he has such a short record that it is near impossible to know whether he has good judgment.

I reject the idea that his anti-war speech is a sign of good judgement because it takes little political courage to make that statement when so many Democrats were opposed to it at the time.

What is important is the judgement he showed once in office. His record in office as a senator is not the best. He voted in favor of many of the political promises that he made on the war. When it counts, he did not have political courage.

I may add that this Rezco issue reflects a lack of judgement.

In part, this has been overlooked thanks to the media. They refuse to call Obama on these issues. However, I think that in the general election this will come back to haunt Obama and the Dem party if he is the noiminee.

Thanks for taking the time to answer my question and in doing so respond to Fred Tallman.

There have been a lot of false statements posted about President Clinton. They should all be responded to as well as you have done.

One More Cow,

Just remember, sometimes its just better not to respond to these guys. They are just hit and run. Just to upset people. ignoring them also negates their power.

just to reinforce Sheila's post.

"The reductions I have approved will save us an additional $50 billion over the next 5 years. By 1997, we will have cut defense by 30 percent since I took office."

this quote was taken directly from President George H.W. Bush's 1992 State of the Union address.

So Sheila....
I guess your saying that I have become a troll since I hit and run? :)

God Bless.

Oh Anon-P

NEVER! YOu don't hit and run at all. You trapes in a out of here like the rest of us and You give alerts, not slams.

Sheila...
I hope you know I was just kidding around with you. Stop by and see my last three posts when you got time.

Take care and ...

God Bless.

Certainly..... ;0)

I will anon and good to see you again.

craig..what was even worse than that embarrassing 'who let the dogs out' was the huddle around that car.. lol.. someone should tell that man he cannot talk jive..

Free falling here....loved Tom Petty's half time show. I wish it were still going...

re: McCain the shape-shifter?

Consider how McCain's veiw of the religious nutjobs has changed.

At the risk of raining on everyone's Super Bowl Parade.....

This Halftime Show is Brought to You By Child Labor in Africa

http://www.alternet.org/rights/75749/

Anyone hear from Craig? Is he home in one piece?

tt

Colleen

DId you notice the advertisment for Obama '08 t-shirts to the left of the article????

Obama's fundraising collides with his rhetoric
Union says senator did little to save jobs
GALESBURG, Ill. - Maytag workers whose jobs were shipped to Mexico serve as consistent characters in Barack Obama's stump speech. He employs their stories in railing against corporations that use trade pacts to replace well-paid union workers with low-cost foreign ones.

It is a ready applause line for the Illinois presidential hopeful, one that he has been reciting almost verbatim since he was a candidate for U.S. Senate in 2004, when appliance giant Maytag was in the process of shutting a refrigerator plant here, putting 1,600 people out of work.

But the union that represented most of those Galesburg workers isn't impressed with Obama's advocacy. It has endorsed his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton. Its leaders say they wish he had done more about their members' plight http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-galesburg_obama_webfeb01,0,4286527.story

Blonde,

Its not specifically for TShirts. Mainly Bumper stickers and Hillary Clinton has a nice one too. Just click on Obama and scroll down.

I didn't notice the ads, folks, but I'm going to look.

Colleen

I have had a bit of wine, so please forgive me if I slur or mis-type. I sometimes thing the 1970's get a bad rap from the disco, but so many bands (like Tom Petty) and movements sprouted from that era...evangelicals, gay pride, mass consumerism (no it is not NAFTA, note Chayefsy's movie NETWORK), the list goes on...

I wish Craig would address this change in the world. Mass consumerism is "what" is making us a "lesser than society." I used to think we were becoming like Russia, but it is more than that. There is a moral aspect to it in that we are finally giving all humans a right to 'own.' Business Week mag had an article about this consumerism. To paraphrase, if a man in a developing country had one pair of pants, with a new plant in his nation where he is employed (tire manufacturing), he can now afford two pairs of pants. Imagine the effect that has on the world's supply of cotton. ANd so it goes....mass consumerism. Are we all victims, here? I think not, I have piggishly enjoyed being an American. I sometimes think it is too late for the planet...mass consumerism has taken over.

Blonde wino - thanks for your thoughtful comments. First I have to say I love Tom Petty and his greatest hits CD has accompanied me on many a long drive, along with the Traveling Wilburys. That said, I think he would be appalled if he saw what I linked above. Consumerism/materialism is a force for reckoning, and we have to simplify life if we want to survive. Values have gone awry. I believe simplicity is the key.

Yep...I sometimes THINK, not thing...I am sure there are other typos....perhaps I will sign-off now.

sorry Renee great season anyway.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Oh Brain...I know the money is about the same, but an election the same as one team in a play-off????

Congrats to the Giants.

Brain...you are right...New York Senator Clinton all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

new york......up with the Giant Clintons

Skipped the Super Bowl because I prefer college and high school games..thought I would be one of the few at the movies..The theaters were packed..Daniel Day Lewis film, excellent.

I didn't care who won Super Bowl..since both teams play in Blue States..

I thought it was kinda cool that giants were able to beat out what they call "patriots" probably a bush administration joke in there somewhere.......

U.S. military says it accidentally killed 9 Iraqi civilians in a raid Saturday

I guess maybe the war will come back to the discussion

I didn't have a team in the Super Bowl, but it was a good game! Feeling sad for Renee and her Patriots, though...and sending congrats to all who favored the Giants....

Best Bowl Ever

it was exciting! it was rollicking good fun although it wasn't perfect but it looked like everyone did their best, no injuries, only a few "accidents" and while I would have picked a different MVP I have no problems with the choice of Abigail as Most Valuable Puppy

Bring on Puppy Bowl V

woo hoo

OMG..what a game it was...and I was well-stocked, having made a huge platter of chicken wings and a most excellent batch of beef and cheese to dump on top of chips and then in salsa...I realize , not much interest here, but the game was my fave Super Bowl of All Time....what a finish, and I was rooting for the Giants all the way...no real particular reason, I just was. I managed to see at least 95% of the game despite all the distractions of people chattering and walking around and my dogs milling around sniffing people. We had a small party and we were treated to a rousing good time.
In the old days this crew would have finished off a keg and gone through several bottle of vodka and other cocktails...we had a small bar set up and a few cases of beer and the whole crew only drank about three six-packs and the vodka was nearly full at party's end...I guess folks do slow down ...it's been three years since I've had any alcohol served
here at the house and of course fifteen years off-booze for me, so I had lost track of my friends' drinking habits.
The only beverage we ran out of was Diet Pepsi. I guess we're old fogeys for sure!

Good Morning Ya'll

Excellent little piece of Snark By Marty Kaplan about Super Tues and worth the read.

"It Depends on What Meaning of "Win" Wins"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marty-kaplan/it-depends-on-what-meanin_b_84661.html

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BTW,

I loved all the Super Bowl Commercials. But the Budweiser Super Human Commercials Did me in. Especially the guy who could breath fired and lit his girlfriends candles in a moment total sexuality and then found out she had cats and he's alergic. LOLOL

Long day today. have a good one!

Love the Puppy Bowl!!!

Well Fred Tallman, thank you for your hate comment. I guess you must be one of the "love the sinner, hate the sin" brigade. No problem... I can relate. I "love the bigot, hate the bigotry."

Now Fred... GROW UP!