Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Happy Valentine's Day

Woo Hoo

Couldn't find any Hawaii Poll but this is interesting

http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?5a0387e9-b053-4c09-b97f-15b9e79ec75f

I'm surprised about Ohio...I thought it was moving Blue?
~g

Craig.....
THANK YOU!....... thank you for showing what I've been trying to say here for 2 days..... the general election in November could easily go McCain's way.....
Democrats shouldn't exhibit so much hubris.....

have a great Valentine's Day.......

gotta go finish cooking my romantic dinner..... KGC.... I bought a really nice old vine Zin for tonight......

Jamie-
I couldn't find a poll for either party for Hawaii...weird.
While I'm heartened by Senator Inuoye's endorsement...it worries me that it's another caucus state...not her strenghth.
~g

Tweety is being unusually blatant today:

Three black folks all supporting Obama and bashing Clinton while the master of slash and burn eggs them on.

“I was however glad to see that yesterday my opponent adopted the goal of 5000 green collar jobs months after I announced I would create 5000 green collar jobs. I was also glad to see he modeled his 60 billion dollar infrastructure bank on a bill that I co-sponsored last summer to create the 60 billion dollar infrastructure bank. Now if he would only copy my health care plan and provide coverage for every single American instead of standing in the way.”

From Clinton's speech today.

I know it's a speech but it made me laugh anyway. Good for her.

Jamie - thanks for the link - that's encouraging but they still need organization. As people said - Obama goes and picks people up, gives them rides, Clinton folks have to get their on their own.

They should provide caucus' location and nursing homes and retirement communities so they can caucus right before BINGO or some other activity. I'm not being mean to older folks - I'm just saying it would be helpful since they're all going to get together anyway.

Craig...so what you're saying is that Hillary does slightly better than Obama in 3 critical swing states.

Jamie,

Matthew should be wearing an Obama for President T-shirt. God this slug is so in the bag for him. I have noticed recently Matthews drooping the age factor bomb everytime he speaks of his good old friend John McCain.

He brags about the Howie Kurtz article about himself

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/13/AR2008021303418.html?sub=AR

Guess he didn't read any of the comments. Now those are fun!!!! :-)

actually...now that I think about it - you said that not people.

Sorry - gotta give credit where credit is due.

i say you and I get on a plane and spend the next few days organizing in HI...we can rent a bus and drive people to the caucus. OK OK I admit it - I just want to go to HI for a couple of days.

Try that again. You have to log it, but its free if you don't have an account just create one.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/13/AR2008021303418.html

It isn't that Matthews LIKES Obama, it's just that he HATES the Clintons.

But then, who doesn't?

re: Parity in PA, FL, and OH.
I think those poll numbers reflect the conflict on the Dem side. If there was just one candidate clearly in the lead, they'd probably be beating McCain.

You may recall several years ago Howard Fineman said on Imus, that if you are a guest on Matthews' show you don't want to sit in the chair right next to him as Matthews has a habit of spitting while talking. I know no one would ever do this ( Idea for Craig), but wouldn't it be funny to see someone sit in that chair wearing a raincoat.

“The Service Employees International Union...is likely to endorse Senate Barack Obama on Thursday evening…It should also help increase his support among Hispanics because so many of the S.E.I.U.’s members, many of them janitors and hospital workers, are immigrants”.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/14/seiu-expected-to-endorse-obama/

Ummm....yea....how did that work out for you with the Hispanic vote in Nevada.

"I support my union. I support Hillary"

Keep hope alive.

Nash - I don't. But I think we've been over this.

again nash, you are baiting Clinton supporters.

Nash - Great then we can forget the polls, who can beat McCain, the BS electability argument and stick with the most qualified person to do the job as our criteria. Clearly that's Hillary...even Obama agrees otherwise his new economic plan wouldn't have been lifted from her Web site.

I'm glad you finally agree since I've been saying this all along.

:-D

Maybe Tweety wants a Cabinet position : ) What would he be good for?

"Report: Obama Far Outpaced Hillary In Contributions To Super-Delegates"

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/report_obama_far_outpacing_hil.php

I find this very confusing...is this legal - to actually buy the Super Delegates. I mean I realize they are both doing it...but...ok I guess I shouldn't be shocked at the unseemly side of politics but I can't believe this is legal.

Perhaps Craig can consider this as a topic down the road.

Just read another page of the comments on the Kurtz love letter to Tweety. Hee hee hee couldn't happen to a more deserving person. I hope WaPo is sending copies to both Tweety Pie and MSNBC

Over at Huffingtonpost.com I've noticed an interesting shift: lots of anti-Obama columns, some quite nasty.

Obama is a liar, a fool, a lightweight, a crook, and his followers are dreamers, lemmings, and zombies,

Is this the start of the new Hillary "go negative" strategy? At HuffPo? What's up with that?

Nash, on Tweets hating the Clintons...."But then, who doesn't?"

Nash, buy ya books and send ya to school and STILL you don't see that some of us actually liked the '90s. SOME of us didn't give a flip about Bill's blow job. But then, some of us work for ourselves and know that consumer confidence stands between us and bankruptcy.

Post for Tweety ... Ambassador to Kenya, or Somalia, or Afghanistan ... where else are they shooting at Americans?

HuffPo probably woke up from their Obama trance and realized they weren't holding him accountable for his empty words and lack of experience.

I guess they decided to do some digging. Amazing what you can find out about a person when you move below the surface.

Is this the start of the new Hillary "go negative" strategy? At HuffPo? What's up with that?

Posted by: nash

We never do anything for Heelary. But we might be having buyer's remorse about Baaarak. We should have been nicer to John.

Patsi: Maybe it's more like, "Some of us remember the 90s." My husband and I talk about this all the time. Barack's demographic includes many people who DON'T remember that time.

My husband and I call the 90s The Noodle Salad Days à la As Good as it Gets. Again, I will quote a movie (yes, I am a movie buff. Some people read books, I watch movies. I am a peasant, I admit it.)

Melvin says:

"It's not true. Some have great stories, pretty stories that take place at lakes with boats and friends and noodle salad. Just no one in this car. But, a lot of people, that's their story. Good times, noodle salad. What makes it so hard is not that you had it bad, but that you're that pissed that so many others had it good."

OK, Jamie and Arianna are keeeling me. I just about choked up my latté on my keyboard!

Hillary has officially won New Mexico

Racist vs sexist

Because of some of the comments on the other thread, I went looking for this quote from Jesse Jackson Jr.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22609464/
" So her appearance brought her to tears but not Hurricane Katrina. "

This is blantant and deliberate sexism

This from the co-chair of Obama's campaign committee. The Clinton campaign has done nothing that even approaches this on the racist side. This is the equivalent to the "Wille Horton" ad, IMO. Yet I have heard no apology from the Obama camp for them. These remarks from such a high ranking person in the Obama camp pulled me away from Obama. I was leaning toward him at the time.
To be honest, it was not the most sexist thing said on that MSNBC show Tucker Carlson wins that prize.

Jack

Patsi: What can I say? I'm just a dreamer, a lemming, and a zombie.

Drelemombies for Obama!

Ally

As we move out of the dark days of February -looks like a competitive race in WI and good days to come in March - especially since we'll get Fry's vote in ND.

Like I said earlier today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej-I-iE_-Nw

Ariana: love the accent.

Tucker:
"Clinton is the underdog. Can she come back?"
"Hillary's new ally: McCain, who is attacking Obama."

Thanks Wendy! Lovin Babs. It gave me a thrill up my leg : )

Evening all. Glad to see the love here today. I'm spending a romantic evening listening to the top 50 most requested love songs on martini in the morning and then I'm working at 8:15. The DJ on the radio station said that he is in deep doo-doo because the McDonald's he was gonna take his wife to only has reservations left at 5:00 and 9:00. LOL! Oh and Linda in Wisconsin , I live in West Michigan. I used to live in Southeast Michigan.

Ally - I was at that concert - the actual one they filmed.

:-D

Corey; It's tough love here, tonight.

We used to be a very civil blog, until the Hillary vs Obama thing turned into trench warfare.

I, of course, had nothing to do with that.

OHMIGOSH. Now I am totally wiggin out. There is a thrill going up the other leg!

Of course not , Nash. Not at all. Thank you , for that.

Jack,

Don't talk about Katrina. Someone might remember Bill collecting a huge amount of money and Obama would want to copy this

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/katrina/

Ally

ROFLMAO

But Jamie , If we had another Katrina , it would be interesting to see if Obama could walk on that flood water. Sorry , I'm Bewitched , Bothered and Bewildered right now. Damn you , Ella!

I, of course, had nothing to do with that.

Posted by: nash

Nosch you make me laugh!

Nash - I agree - this is for you.

All together shout it now...there's no one who can doubt it now...so let's tell the world about it now...happy days are here again....

"I'm Bewitched , Bothered and Bewildered"

err you do remember the original lyrics

Couldn't sleep
And wouldn't sleep
Until I could sleep where i shouldn't sleep
Bewitched, bothered and bewildered am I

I'll sing to him
bring spring to him
and worship the trowsers that cling to him
Bewitched, bothered and bewilered am I

When he talks he is seeking
Words to get off his chest.
Horizontally speaking
He's at his very best.

Vexed again
Perplexed again
Thank God I can be oversexed again
Bewitched, bothered and bewildered am I

Corey you live across the big pond from me. I am between Milwaukee and Green Bay on the east side. BTW go one with walking on water.

Sounds like you all are playing the BO game..........we watch the news and everytime we hear that name.........we drink!!

Ahh yes , Jamie! Now they're playing Babs....The Nearness of You. OMG....there is a thrill going up my leg!

Suppose to be "good one." I just got done shoveling another foot of snow!!

Yep , I'm in Holland near Lake Michigan.

Wolf Blitzer should change the name of his show to "The Constipation Room."

NOW HEAR THIS

If anyone missed Harborwoman's Black Bean Chili recipe, it is up on my blog

http://jdurward.blogspot.com

Since we're posting lyrics....here's one for George W Bush

some of Bobby Bare's version of Shel Silverstein's
"Goin' down to Texas"

I got no brains I got no sense I never had no class
So I'm goin' down to Texas and be one more horse's ass

Yeah I'm goin' down to Texas and be one more horse's ass
I used to be your stallion but that's all in the past
So face the tail on my nose and point me towards the grass
Cause I'm goin' down to Texas and be one more horse's ass

I can't run in the hot sun and I won't run in the mud
I'm overaged for racin' and I'm overweight for stud
But I can dance and I can fight and throw a whiskey glass
I'm goin' down to Texas and be one more horse's ass

Yeah I'm goin' down to Texas and be one more horse's ass...

McCain could pick up the Hispanic vote. He may pick up the Jewish vote. He may pick up the Reagan Democrats and Independents, so I would hardly write off McCain's chances. The Dean Wing has been wrong so many times, I wouldn't bet their record. And of course, McCain will be the under dog.

Of course, this is McCain v Obama. Why? The Blue States lean towards Hillary and will not be pleased with the Latte attack on the Clintons nor the moonbats that have come out for Obama. Expect more Independents peeling off to McCain. Yes, there are normal people supporting Obama, but were it not for Red State victories in activist caucuses aided by a liberal press favoring Obama, the race would have long been over.

Why does McCain beat up Obama more than Hillary? Geez...Iranian high speed centrifuges made at as yet undiscovered facility. So much for the wisdom of the NIE. Putin's move towards Ukraine and Europe including buzzing our ships. Chavez's threats against his neighbors and the US. Sarfur, Somalia, Chad and Kenya. Hizb'Allah bracing for starting a new war. Obama has no answers and talking to the enemies without even traveling to Europe to speak first to our allies will not go over well in the general election.

So Hillary wins NM. Big deal. The big States count including Florida and Michigan. If Hillary wins the next big three it is over. If not and Obama slips through, you ain't seen nothing yet. I wouldn't be so sure as world events start getting through the media filter that Americans question where Obama would take us. Rhetoric might work in the primary, but Republicans will up the attacks.

Rezko trial will be underway, Iraq will be going in a better direction, our allies will be asking Obama why he doesn't support sanctions, Putin and Chavez will blasting McCain. Dancing gets you so far....

Chelsea is going to campaign in Hawaii. Sometimes it pays to be an only child. :-)

http://www.martiniinthemorning.com/lovesong.php

The top 50 love songs countdown so far.

OH Bill got Wisconsin

Who do you luv baby?

and here's Billy Joe Shaver lyrics, reflecting my feelings about Hillary supporters being portrayed as low rent by the press....

"I'd just like to mention my grandma's old age pension
Is the reason why I'm standing here today
I got all my country learning a milking and a churning
Picking cotton raisin' hell and baling hay
I been to Georgia on a fast train honey, I wouldn't born no yesterday
I got a good Christian raisin' and an eighth grade education
Ain't no need in y'all a treatin' me this way"

"Matthews, who is said to earn more than $5 million a year, had long been top dog at MSNBC. "

5 million dollar Tweety - That's a lot of cabbage for being an @ss.

"Wolf Blitzer should change the name of his show to "The Constipation Room."

That's funny.

All the women who worked to support their kids and get them through college are voting for Hillary, and the kids with their degrees are voting for Obama.

It's enough to make you want your money back. :-)

Jamie: You are ON tonight.

What do HRC and Kinky Friedman have in common?

http://startelegram.typepad.com/politex/2008/02/shes-following.html

Jack

ROFL Jamie

Our daughter voted for Hillary - I won't tell you what we had to do to convince her - but she voted for her none the less.

"Obama is being misleading when he says his proposal would "cover everyone." It would make coverage available to all, but experts we consulted estimate that 15 million to 26 million wouldn't take it up unless required to do so."

From FactCheck.org today

Ugh - Illinois U shooting - the world is going mad. I not only work for a University I also go to school at night - makes one want to stay @ home. Ugh.

Another case of untreated mental illness.

I'm hearing a lot of people say no to Obama in the general election, they are moving to McCain. Even my 87 YO mom (loves Hillary) who is a lifelong democrat is talking about McCain. As far as I know she only voted Republican once and that was for Eisenhower. He is too vague and unformed to gain her trust.

And to quote Kinky

"I ain't racist but Aristotle Onassis is one Greek we don't need"

No You Can't

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUKINg8DCUo

Mental Illness in our war veterans ignored. It's unbelievable.

http://cbs4denver.com/local/iraq.soldier.bipolar.2.650876.html

violence and mental illness

"the majority of people who are violent do not suffer from mental illnesses. In fact, people with a mental illness are more likely to be the victims, rather than the perpetrators of violence"

http://www.cmha.ca/bins/content_page.asp?cid=3-108

Colleen tell that to the parents of the Virginia Tech students that were slaughtered.

n his speech in Janesville, Mr. Obama proposed creating a National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank to invest $60 billion over 10 years and create nearly 2 million new jobs in the construction field. He said the program would be paid for by ending the Iraq war. He also renewed his call to create an energy plan to invest $150 billion over 10 years to establish a “green energy sector” to add up to 5 million jobs in the next two decades.

This total BS, because the war isn't even included in the budget.

Yes Jamie, how true. You know I really was thrilled with Obama back in 2004. I would love to see a kick ass Black in charge given how much blood and tears Blacks have given this country. I am more a policy wonk and it pains me to see the path Obama played to get this far. Was there another way? Yep.

My read is that because Obama has steered his campaign and rhetoric to such a pandering and calculated extent, the wammy that will befall him should he win either the primary or the White House will damage the potential to actually come together and face our problems. McCain has a harder time with Hillary than Obama from my view.

One would be amazed what is happening right now in the world. Like 1999, we forget what adversaries plot while we are side-tracked. If you thought America has been facing a tough threat condition these last several years, just wait. I will only pick two situations. Chavez special ops with silent subs causing many problems and even worse, Iran getting close to a bomb before the next President leaves office. JFK and Reagan, Truman and LBJ were no weak cookies and the world knew it. The next President won't be the Janotor of the world, he'll/she'll be defending what is left of Western unity in the face of multipolar and lethal threats whether media admits it now or later. And then watch them turn on the man/woman in charge. Obama has no Reaganesque or JFK-like rhetoric in terms of national strength. Hillary does come across as tougher and more likely to give our enemies hell. You think she won't condemn Suadis for exectuing a witch? That right. They are planning to execute a witch because some people claim this poor women bewitched them. Hey, Obama -what about human rights?

Max- Obama's answer to your question: "Yes we can."

wait that the answer to all the questions....

And the world's answer to Obama, "No we won't".

Obama Theme Song:

Helplessly Hoping
~Stephen Stills

Helplessly hoping
Her harlequin hovers nearby
Awaiting a word
Gasping at glimpses
Of gentle true spirit
He runs, wishing he could fly
Only to trip at the sound of good-bye

Wordlessly watching
He waits by the window
And wonders
At the empty place inside
Heartlessly helping himself to her bad dreams
He worries
Did he hear a good-bye? Or even hello?

They are one person
They are two alone
They are three together
They are for each other

Stand by the stairway
You'll see something
Certain to tell you confusion has its cost
Love isn't lying
It's loose in a lady who lingers
Saying she is lost
And choking on hello

They are one person
They are two alone
They are three together
They are for each other

Dig it man.

Or maybe it is Hillaries nightmere.

I would love to hear your phone stump dog eye. Call me and I'll ask you questions you would be stumped by.
If I lived in Wisconsin I would ask you why Obama won't debate Hillary there. Funny how people talk scornfully about the Clinton Machine but laud the brilliance of the Obama Machine. I'm sure you won't find Che hanging from the Clinton headquarter's wall.

Joe Wilson:

"In order to effect practical change against a determined adversary, we do not need a would-be philosopher-king but a seasoned gladiator who understands the fight Democrats will face in the fall campaign and in governing."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-wilson/battletested_b_86355.html

Seems apropriate for today
"For What Its Worth"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJV44YV69z0

Jack

I'm sure you won't find Che hanging from the Clinton headquarter's wall.

Posted by: Maxtrue

Hell no! I've got Stalin's photo!

xoxo,
Hillary!

pass the joint.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvg4n8Txgdc&feature=related

Sgt. Timothy P. Martin rest in peace.

http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=11685

oh that war's going swimmingly isnt it??

Burrito

Is the sergeant someone you knew?

Obama is stealing my song.

Kid Koala LYRICS - Hope Will Find A Way Lyrics
Yeah Yeah yeah yeah YEA!!
ican see a glimpse of your goodness,
in the beauty of the wide open sea .
i can see a ray,
of your mercy.
let your light have strayed,
through the clouds to me

(Chourus)
Everywhere I go,
i'm followed by this rainbow.
It's full of colors that remind me.
Speak your love for me.
And I can almost reach out and touch it.
I can almost see your face,
And I can almost see this world full of grace
like it was meant to be.
Goodness and Mercy and Peace.
Flowin' through the land.
From the heights of mountains to the depths
of the heart of the sea.
Troubles like clouds blown away,
If I could only capture this vision today
and sing it like healing,
to every broken heart.
I know that hope will find A way A way
I know that hope will find a way

I can feel the rain, it's fallin
like whispers from heaven to me
Carried by the wind,
It's Callin,
it's comin' to set my world free

(Chorus)

In the moonlight I lay back
Lost me in the stars
They can tie this in their beauty
it reminds me, of who you are
who you are, who you are

Goodness and Mercy and Peace.
Flowin' through the land.
From the heights of mountains to the depths
of the heart of the sea.
Troubles like clouds blown away,
If I could only capture this vision today
and sing it like healing,
to every broken heart.
I know that hope will find A way A way
I know that hope will find a way A way
I know that hope wil find a wayy.

I swear, the electorate has the attention span of a gnat..

pass the joint.

Posted by: unlikely_burrito

well if you going to be that way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbkSo7FfQxc

Jack

Where do you come up with the moniker unlikely_burrito?

I suggest that you check out the Flying Burrito Brothers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flying_Burrito_Brothers

Jamie - yes

Right.

Hope makes much more sense than solutions. Anybody that is educated knows that philosophy trumps physical science every time.

Just one more wish!

Where are the young people who should be out there protesting the war......I mean really.....I think they are all waiting for everything to be handed to them.

Sorry - I am a bit stressed and this fairly tale BS is getting under my skin. You would have to pay me to vote for that "inspiring empty suit."

Good people are dying and morons are chanting!!!!!

I will sit this one out if I have to.

Burrito

ARe you up to telling us about him?

bowmanc-

God whispered it in my ear. :)

New KO comment

Best comment on the WaPo article about Matthews:

He isn't a talking head; he's an erupting boil.

You'd think Obama would have a picture of JFK hanging like Bill did.

Stalin? I have Alfred E. Neuman asking, "What me worry?"

LOL

You would have to pay me to vote for that "inspiring empty suit."

Posted by: unlikely_burrito

It makes me all warm and fuzzy inside to know that your vote can be bought! Thanks!

Hil

KO is channeling our own AP - He just called the president a fascist and liar. What fun.

KO just called Bush a fascist.

Not really, he was my good friend's brother. I know her better then I did know him, but the sadness for all is overwhelming, we knew earlier then today but there where some family logistics that held up the release of his name.

I can tell you, he was bright, college educated and kind, and had a promising future. The family is devastated, he was only in Iraq maybe one month. The four soldiers who were killed in that attack were stationed in Hawaii prior to this.

anything else I would say is just too sad....and most likely private to his family.

Did some body call?

Damn. KO speaks the truth about the BIG issues.

While we here are all wrapped up in trivial details of political process, KO is noting that Bush is guilty of TREASON, and hardly anyone is paying attention.

The Dems in Congress have given him a green light. He could attempt a military coup and they STILL would not even try to impeach him.

Can you imagine that "do nothing" congress with BO.....Every week it would be a new one liner chant.

Health care not fair!

Come on' say it wit me.

Hope makes much more sense than solutions. Anybody that is educated knows that philosophy trumps physical science every time.

Posted by: bowmanc

Both Barack and I have undergraduate degrees in poli-sci and law degrees. So we're not philosophers or scientists!

But I do have solutions! Do you have some problems that I can use my solutions on? That would be so cool!

Enabling you to solve your own problems would be so 1960s. I'll take care of everything. Trust me. I have a track record.

Hil

Burrito

He sounds like a wonderful person and a great loss. There has been so much useless killing and devastated families. I wish the best to his parents and loved ones.

I been wanting to know for a long time now. Exactly what does this president have to do to this country before someone stops him. The damage this nut job has done is endless. What really makes me nuts is that when the Democrat who replaces him tries to take a pee they will crucify him or her.

Obama said

"I think you reserve impeachment for grave, grave breaches, and intentional breaches of the president's authority," he said.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-06-28-obama-impeachment_N.htm

Thank you, Jamie-
I am sending my letter tomorrow, I will include your well wishes.

If one thing has emerged from this election year it is the realization that MSM pundits HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON.

From the unexpected rise of Obama and Huckabee, to the collapse of all the favorites (Giuliani, Romney, Clinton) the pundits have never been able to figure out what the voters are thinking.

The pundits have become high-salary media stars, swept up in "life in the fast lane." They understand lobbyists, they understand members of Congress, they even understand political consultants. They just don't understand their dry cleaner, or the guy who cuts their lawn.

Nash,

I think you give them too much credit.

a vote for mccain is a vote for another 100 years of war. If you sit out the election and allow him to be elected that is what he wants to do. Up to you Burrito. Mc Cain has said he is good with the war lasting 100 years.

yo soy Horsedooty!

also Burrito I am sorry for your loss.

yo soy Horsedooty!

I'm getting a little tired of the troll who logs on here every day with a new name. Today he's calling himself Hillary.

Perhaps if we ignore the little shit, he'll go away.

Max, Burrito, Jamie etc.: Did y'all ever catch the Bill Moyers Journal with Charles Fried and Frederick Schwarz back in October?

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10262007/profile.html

They discuss the consequences for the future of our country if the instances of executive overreach on the part of the Bush administration goes unpunished. If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it.

OMG This is hilarious!!!!

David Wilhelm trying to explain why the superdelegates should go with the will of the people...unless the will of the people is for Hillary.

His stammering and his stuttering reminds me of Obama when he tries to answer questions about policy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpzCBPE3j6k

Nash: Meant to have your name on that last post as well...

i love B. Moyers, will check it out now.

I understand that is what McC said, I also understand, that he, HRC, and BO all will face the same problems/hurdles when they try to exit Iraq.

All the campaign rhetoric is just that, I would, however pick experience over anything else....

If Obama is the candidate for the dems, then let the chips fall as they will. I am sure the "yes we can" voter block isn't going to go home and pout if their guy doesn't get in. They are inspired ( to record numbers), they will be active ( it's a movement) and make sure to McCain accountable if he wins the white house.

Wendy: That was hysterical! I'm sure he will consider the will of the people if Ohio goes to Hillary...just like Ted Kennedy will take it into consideration for Massachusetts, right? The whole system just stinks, for both candidates.

Thanks for the link Ally....

Obama used the race card in S.C. after loss in N.H. Hillary was ahead and he made blacks mad at Clintons' by distorting what they were saying..And the media helped spread the distortion,especially MSNBC.Day after day of calling Clinton's racist gave S.C. to BO.He also played up to the teens who look at him as A rock star.Michelle Obama won't vote for Hillary if she wins but a lot of us Hillary voters wont vote for Obama.Looks like Repubs win again.And I voted dem.45 years

Fox News Radio's Tom Sullivan aired "side-by-side comparison" of speeches by Hitler and Obama

Summary: Fox News Radio host Tom Sullivan took a call from a listener who stated that when listening to Barack Obama speak, "it harkens back to when I was younger and I used to watch those deals with Hitler, how he would excite the crowd and they'd come to their feet and scream and yell." Sullivan then played a "side-by-side comparison" of a Hitler speech and an Obama speech. Sullivan mimicked the crowd during both speeches, yelling, "Yay! Yay!" When a later caller complained that Sullivan was "denigrating" Obama with the comparison, Sullivan said he wouldn't play it again, then begged: "Can I, please, one more time? Just one more time? Then I won't do it again. ... Until the next time."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802130016?f=h_latest

I know Ally LMAO

I bet the Obama campaign pulls back on ole David's interview schedule.

Ummm...yea...thanks dude...you're not doing us any favors but thanks for coming out and giving it a try.

If anyone is buying superdelegates it is Obama.

Obama donated the largest amount, about $694,000, to those campaigns in the past three years, according to the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. Clinton donated $195,500.
http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=213&sid=1345620

No Lincoln bedrooms here looks more like suite at the Ritz.

Can you imagine working consistantly for the betterment of an underclass/ who suffered prejudicial treatment , just to have those same people, vote by the same prejudice that held them down.

The color of their skin.

"Perhaps if we ignore the little shit, he'll go away"

Now that is funny!

Jack

And you know what else Wendy? What ever happened to loyalty?

I will again quote a movie, Jerry Maguire:

Rod: Why'd you get married? I'm asking you as a friend.
Jerry: You're jabbing at me.
Rod: I'm sorry I asked.
Jerry: No, I'm going to answer you. You want an answer? I'll give it to you. Loyalty. She was loyal. Everything grew from there.
Rod: That's an answer.
Jerry: Damn right.

Loyalty is nowhere to be found in politics. They could learn something from the movies, that's what I say.

Good night everyone! Happy Valentine's Day...I hope everyone took some time off from the bickering to stop and smell the roses and eat a piece of chocolate! I am going to do that right now...

it's going to be all right

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsxBSXWqH4c

So if the Polls Craig is showing,,, And McCain was counted out early on.. and he keeps the trend,
Then all this talk about Obama and HRC have little value

Howard Wolfson Challenges Obama on Rezko

"there are many questions -- for instance, about his relationship with indicted political fixer Tony Rezko that he could answer, that he has not. What was the exact nature of his relationship with Mr. Rezko? How many fundraisers did Mr. Rezko throw for him? How much money did Mr. Rezko bundle for him? How many business meetings did Senator Obama attend that Mr. Rezko was at? What was he doing at those business meetings? What favors did Senator Obama perform for Mr. Rezko? So there's an awful lot of information that, if Senator Obama is interested in transparency, that he could come forward and offer the American people."
http://www.taylormarsh.com/

Romney endorses McCain.
Another step towards the McCain Romney ticket.

Craig - is the writing not on the wall?

Also then Romeny one ups Huckster.

McCain Romney 08 is great...

Did everyone see the latest from FEMA. The people in the trailers have to move out because there is now a problem with formaldahyde leaks.

Can they come up with another way to screw up?

As much as I loathe George Bush and think he should be thrown out of office, I almost think Obama is right about not impeaching. It would only open the door to another round of "get even the next time". I just wish the Democrats in Congress had enough balls to fight, expose, scream bloody murder every time he acts like a dictator. Maybe he would just go quietly.

Jamie,
What is Nancy and Harry doing these days?

I read the post as 'Parisian Party'. Guess I'm tired.

Both Clinton & Obama TV ads now, here.

tt

Well The Republicans walked out today because of the block on the amnesty provision for the telecoms in the bill to authorize eavesdropping.

Of course, this was very important so there was no all day coverage of the issue, just a small blurb on the news when it happened mainly because "how long can the Boener last?" saw another microphone to love,

Rezko will come up at a perfect time for Republicans.

However, McCain will ask Obama where Iran built their new carbon-based centrifuges years before experts thought possible and with black market help. The NIE is based on the mistaken belief we know where Iran's facilities are. What is Obama's judgment on this and does he stand beside his long history of threatening to stop Iran?

McCain will ask Obama if he knows where all of Syria's nuclear facilities are and what the nature was of the target the Israelis destroyed.

McCain will ask Obama if he would deploy forces to protect those threatened by Chavez or allow a sub base for the Russians that JFK did not.

McCain will ask if Obama has any plan to deal with China and would consider boycotting the Olympics to protest the genocide of Blacks in Sudan.

McCain will ask if Obama is prepared to help bring peace in Somalia and Kenya, Chad and elsewhere, or is his plan just talking and giving money. to corrupt regimes.

McCain will ask Obama would he defend Kosovo against Serbian aggression. Will Obama demand NATO send more troops to Afghanistan? How will he do this?

McCain will ask Obama if he will continue missile defense and replace our grounded F-15s with new Raptors.

McCain will ask Obama if he thinks FARC is a liberation army, or if Hamas is a terrorist group. He will ask Obama if he really wants to deploy forces into the Kyber Pass or was he just kidding.

McCain will ask what steps he will do to counter the growing beligerency of Putin and the use of Belarus as a funnel for dangerous military weapons.

McCain will ask Obama if manueverable re-entry warheads consititue a violation of treaties by Russia, or whether the US should replace its nuclear warheads with a safer modern version.

McCain will ask if countries like Yemen and Algeria, should be building nucealr power given the terrorism that exists there, or even if nuclear power is the answer to energy problems. Should China be part of global climate agreements? Does Obama support free trade agreements and the freedom of expression challenged by those afraid to show cartoons of Mohammed?

These questions might not be important to many Liberals as they applaud style over substance, but Americans will have a different attitude when faced with the reality of an Obama President based on what he has said.

In short, Hillary has a much better time going center. Obama will get flustered when these issues appear. The right answers just aren't in his game book now. he can float like a butter fly, but I rather doubt he can sting like a bee. When he does it is mostly meaness and not shocking clarity. McCain will question his healthcare, economic plans, foreign policy, bipartanism, connections with the most Liberal elements and distrubing lack of realism about the world.

john McCain on torture

He was against it before he was for it.
http://www.washingtonindependent.com/view/wait-wasnt-mccain

Why was waterboarding torture when we tried the Japanese after WWII. but not for the CIA.
Because the Japanese used more water than the CIA.
How much water would be torture?
Don't know that is classified.
http://www.washingtonindependent.com/view/the-legality-of
Forget impeach bush/chenny. Impeach Jay Rockefeller

Jack

McCain is a....

FLIP FLOPPER!!!!

tt

Just one of those Obama eruptions....ah, I feel better now.

I know few believe me but Democrats will be surprised by the race after the primaries if Obama wins the nomination. It will hardly be a cake walk. McCain could take Florida and Ohio and retain all those Red States Obama thinks his victories portend of switching to Blue..........Yes we can!!!!!

There are surprises Hillary refused to engage in,

Jack, you think we do what Japan did? Really now.

Admit your comparison is B.S. There are still WW2 vets you could talk to. Maybe we should have made AQ walk from Afghanistan to Polish dentention centers.

I talk to one everyday Max, he happens to be my fatherinlaw. He doesn't approve, what this adminisrtation does is an embarassment to him. He fought for an America that is good and this administration has taken us in a different direction. This was not what he fought for. That we sentenced Japanese officers to hard labor for waterboarding, is fact. That we waterboard is admitted fact. From your post it seems that you approve of water boarding, that is approval of torture. If so , as far as I'm concerned, that would make you a worthless piece of shit.

Jack

If any on this board are Hillary supporters, which I know there are, please go to her website to see the new phone goals.

It is really easy to make calls. You sign up to become a member. Then, you log in and the campaign provides a number and script. You make calls from your phone.

I plan to make phone calls to Wisconsin this weekend. I did this for Edwards in 04. It is not hard at all:)

The goal is to call 1, 000, 000 in three weeks, although I think that volunteers can exceed this.

In my opinion, this is a turning point for her campaign. Every call, even only a few, will help. So, please join all her supporters by calling!

Jan - I got my feet wet with the phone calling last week. I plan to do some calls this weekend too.

I think Gordo is the troll. Whenever Gordo is here, the troll shows up, with another name. He was using several tonight.

Not the troll

I saw interviews with some kids at NIU, live from DeKalb. One woman student was very calm as she described getting trampled as she "army-crawled" to safety....and one of the men who stampeded over her body was shot in the leg ...blood all over...6 dead so far...the other students were being interviewed outside in the cold and they were in emotional shock...I know it's news, but I felt uncomfortable as a few of the students had to stop as they could not talk to the reporter...Channel 9 WGN Chicago.

OK. I'll take your word on that.

College shootings:
NYTimes has an updated article from less than an hour ago.

My college has just initiated a new emergency warning/lockdown procedure. Everyone's going to be nervous tomorrow, worrying about copycats. We've got a student this semester who's causing problems in multiple classes. In the past we would have slapped him on the wrist. In this environment he's liable to get tossed out on his ass.

Of course, in northern Maine, half the male students have guns in their cars. My students were joking about school shootings the other day saying that a shooter wouldn't survive long enough for the cops to get there. But they weren't really joking.

It's going to be a tough race, but 4 more years of Bush-like foreign policy cannot come to fruition. McCain must be defeated.
Obama is perceived as a weakling by a lot of working class repugs , because he spouts off about "bringing the troops home."
However, his promises look like Swiss cheese, containing all kinds of "but-ifs..."
He also is on record from as far back as 2003 as being extremely iron-fisted in regards to Iran.(Even though that speech has mysteriously disappeared from the internet.)
Everyone with an inkling of awareness knows Obama is a fierce supporter of the war in Iraq, voting straight-Bush ever since he came to Washington.
Clinton is about the same...damn nearly exactly the same.
McCain thins all Americans are NOT concerned we have become the goddamned policeman of the world, with armed bases the globe over.
He vows to keep US forces in Iraq forever.
But...no sense worrying, because, after all, the voters wanted Bush over Kerry, and they have him.
They ridicule and force great candidates like Kucinich and Richardson out ...men who had a clear vision as to the ills and needed reforms to this land.
For many, Hillary and Obama are giving us promises in which the differences won't affect us, so it is a popularity contest.
Do you want a crazy old bastard like MccCain, a woman, or an Afro-American?
The last two are OK with me, but the old Arizona lunatic can't be elected ... please! PLEASE?

nash...sounds like a good time for a paid sick day...do you ice fish?

I was watching RFD-TV. A show about trains was on.
A train took off and stopped at the depot in CRAWFORD'S NOTCH, Vermont. Rather desolate.
I didn't notice any vapors which might have been the ghost of Abel Crawford.

Hezbollah's Nasrallah threatens Israel .at slain commander funeral , with "open war, if that's what you want,". but the hot item yesterday was Jane Fonda saying C*n* on the Today Show.

Jane Fonda said that on tee vee? When Chaucer used it he spelled it "Quaint" ........ Funny how languages change......

All the women who worked to support their kids and get them through college are voting for Hillary, and the kids with their degrees are voting for Obama.

It's enough to make you want your money back. :-)

Posted by: Jamie | February 14, 2008 6:42 PM

Jamie,

Sorry Girl Don't speak for me. I know you would like to think that Women like me would just sumarily vote for Clinton. I mean I even worked me way through college while helping my son with his....I voted for Obama.

I don't think thats a reason someone does and someone doesn't. I think it has a lot to do with personal pride and/or what kind of life you have led.

AS in, There are a lot of us who want a society that is BETTER than what we have now.