Dem Debaters, Meet Dimitry Medvedev

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Neither Democratic presidential candidate seemed to completely grasp the name of the incoming president of Russia during their debate on Tuesday.

Give Hillary Rodham Clinton credit for at least mumbling Dmitry Medvedev's last name, although she appeared unsure whether she had gotten it right. Barack Obama did not even try to name Medvedev, although he echoed Clinton's observation that the new Russian leader is President Vladimir Putin's hand-picked successor.

That is not the sort of flub that will matter this week. But it sure could make a difference if something like that happened in the general election debates against Republican nominee-to-be John McCain, who has recently talked about Medvedev by name and at length.

But at least Obama or Clinton have plenty of time to memorize the names of foreign leaders before taking on McCain in a debate.

 

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    1. Aha! Medvedev! First!

      Posted by: Divalicias | February 27, 2008 6:07 AM

    2. For Dimitry vote 1-866-66-PUTIN

      Posted by: Divalicias | February 27, 2008 6:11 AM

    3. I think his correct name is Dmitry Hussein Medvedev.

      Posted by: alpha1906 Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 6:16 AM

    4. Craig, Nice job with the Video Trial Mix....

      Seems like the blame game.. is cranking up... Its not my fault I am losing... I even get hints from the media that has its bias to HRC that they are blaming their own for supporting BHO.. Opps I mean BO.

      It is all part of the game and for HRC to open with SNL comparison is another sigh of weakness - when the blame game starts - is when the game is over.

      Posted by: Ping Pong Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 6:22 AM

    5. You know, Alf....since you try to turn any word into some sort of racism, try this one: I think you are an asshole.

      Posted by: Patsi | February 27, 2008 6:25 AM

    6. Good Morning Craig-
      Just heard you'll be on Morning Joe-They didn't say what time.

      Posted by: ubns Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 6:29 AM

    7. One more post to Alf about his constantly calling people racists. Try calling these guys racist. This, from Black Agenda Report:

      "Obamamania

      Barack Obama’s corporate-made and -financed presidential campaign is the product of three distinct factors, all mitigating against Black self-determination and political cohesion: 1) corporate decisions, made a decade ago, to provide media and financial support to pliant Black Democrats that can be trusted to carry Wall Street’s water; 2) a widespread desire among whites to prove through the safe and simple act of voting that they are not personally racist, and/or to dismiss Black claims of pervasive racism in society, once and for all; 3) a huge reservoir of Jim Crow era, atavistic Black thinking that refuses to evaluate Black candidates’ actual political stances, but instead revels in the prospect of Black faces in high places. A President Obama would, of course, be the zenith of such narrow, non-substantive, objectively self-defeating visions.

      In 2007, the Obama "package" amply satisfied all three "constituencies." Corporations found him a loyal ally on Capitol Hill and on the speaking circuit, rewarding him handsomely for his fealty; millions of whites came to believe Obama could solve the "race problem" by his mere presence, at no cost to their own notions of skin privilege; and infinitely manipulable Black dreams of the ultimate Head-Negro-in-Charge. Many, if not most, Black folks yearn to see a Supreme HNIC before they die, and will not question how he got there or whom he really serves.

      Paul Street has written often in these pages and elsewhere of Obama’s political charade: his impudent posing as the "Joshua" to succeed Dr. King’s "Moses Generation," while supporting none of the fundamental social transformations sought by King; his fawning praise of the same U.S. "free enterprise" system that King thought was incompatible with racial justice and peace; Obama’s ridiculous and statistically baseless declaration that Blacks have already come "90 percent of the way to equality," inferring that his election would provide the final ten percent; the senator’s initial insistence, later modified, that the Katrina catastrophe and the Jena outrage had nothing to do with race; his remarkable pledge to the Foreign Relations Council to increase U.S. troops strength by 100,000 soldiers and Marines, all the while maintaining the farce of being a "peace" candidate. The list goes on, and will doubtless lengthen as the campaign continues.

      Posted by: Patsi | February 27, 2008 6:33 AM

    8. Buchanan: A woman speaking is like a dog walking on its hind legs. WTF?!

      Here we go with the daily MoJo sexisim circle jerk.

      Posted by: Divalicias | February 27, 2008 6:38 AM

    9. paul begala on imus

      Alpha....I was just curious about 1906.......history buff....if it's personal or something never mind......

      Posted by: sturgeone | February 27, 2008 6:38 AM

    10. Patsi -- I wonder if BHO could still get a cab in DC.

      Posted by: Divalicias | February 27, 2008 6:40 AM

    11. Craig is going to be on MSNBC...

      Posted by: Tan | February 27, 2008 6:44 AM

    12. Morn'n Patsi.
      Good Mornin -- with all the new posters and bloggers hard to keep up these days for those of us with limited time - so not sure the issue with alpha

      Interesting article that certianly is built on many bias and prejudice of the authors. Same condition as I posted before... No fine wine comes from sour grapes

      Posted by: Ping Pong Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 6:44 AM

    13. JS -- Be careful what you wish for. The GOP will come afer BHO and hammer him on the issues.

      What "issues" Joe?

      Like whether to wind your turban from the right to left or the other way around?

      Posted by: Divalicias | February 27, 2008 6:45 AM

    14. Yesterday, Geraldine Ferraro (Hillary supporter) was on John Gibson's radio show. She was very upset about those Repubs and Indies who are voting for Obama now, but plan to go for McCain in Nov. She made the point that only Dems should be allowed to participate in selecting the Dem nominee. They are being encouraged to do this for a reason - get rid of Hillary now, because Obama will be easier to beat in the GE. It's that simple.

      Posted by: GORDO | February 27, 2008 6:49 AM

    15. "Here we go with the daily MoJo sexisim circle jerk. "
      --Divalicious

      uh huh...and there sits Mika, with that silly look on her face, enjoying every second of it. She is just one of the boyz.

      Posted by: LushIsLinda Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 6:51 AM

    16. Mika reminds me of a girl I knew in his school who always made sexually charged comments, wide-eyed and innocent, then asked "What'd I say?"

      Posted by: Patsi | February 27, 2008 6:55 AM

    17. I dont see it anymore but you have to wonder why they give a 3 hour morning show to someone who is obviously a pain in the ass to at least half of their potential audience......do they think people will continue to tune in who find the man to be an empty headed nitwit with an obvious bias? Or do they simply not care about that half of the potential viewers........

      Posted by: sturgeone | February 27, 2008 6:56 AM

    18. Pogo: "Interesting article that certianly is built on many bias and prejudice of the authors."

      Yes, the Black Agenda Report is made up of old school activists who are tough on anything they see as pandering to their community, no matter where it's coming from. They definitely have a bias. They despised my guy Harold Ford, as well.

      Posted by: Patsi | February 27, 2008 6:58 AM

    19. sturgeone --------------------------

      They have an agenda - not about number of viewers. JW's "Lost Boys" in action!

      Posted by: GORDO | February 27, 2008 7:09 AM

    20. Good morning.

      I've had computer problems at home since I tried to install Itunes on my box. I'm running win2k and after numerous attempts found out that Itunes is no longer supported under win2k.

      Now I have too find a way to start a full reloading of everything a little at a time and still be able to see whats going on.

      I see that very little has changed with regards to support of each others candidates so I really don't want to get into anyones line of fire and have stayed silent on the race to the White House.

      Take care and I'll try to stop in some evening when I get my computer starting reloads. I'll use another drive and start my fresh install on that and swap it over so I can still access the internet.

      Once all is reloaded I'll be looking at swapping the drive over permanently around the time my anti virus protection is up for renewal.

      Take care all and ...

      God Bless.

      Posted by: anon-paranoid Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 7:20 AM

    21. Hillary and Barack could not pronounce the Russian's name? Well , they obviously don't watch hockey or tennis on tv! If they did , they could pronounce many different Russian names!

      Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 7:20 AM

    22. Gordo... Where was HRC to complain when the cross over from Dem's in early primary support for JM... Opps John McCain..
      I see another SNL parity built on a famous Chevy Chase.. Picture BHO.. I mean BO speaking to HRC.. opps HC... BO says "Hillary you Ingnortant.... B.. , Of course they should be allowed to cross over"

      Posted by: Ping Pong Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 7:27 AM

    23. Scarborough said that Craig was going to be on. I wonder if it is true, or is this a lame attempt to keep viewers tuned in??

      Posted by: LushIsLinda Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 7:29 AM

    24. And the BS about the middle name - McCain inflamed it by recoginze.. His response was BS and so is the media.
      Having friends with the same name, and our good friends in Jordan.
      Give me a break..

      Craig you buddy on ABC Stephnomiddlenamealphous comments this AM.. Booooo

      Posted by: Ping Pong Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 7:30 AM

    25. If the need a device for remembering the name, it means bear.

      Craig - Love the video blogs but we need to get you a tripod; I'm a tad motion sick.

      Saw a few minutes of Dana Milbank w/KO before the debate and a few minutes of KO w/Chris Matthews after the debate...and boy, does KO have a huge crush on Obama, or whuuut?

      Imust always said KO was about half a socialist. That would explain why KO would back Obama's uber-liberalism.

      MoJo is right. The GOP would crush Obama in the general without apology. The Reps are praying Obama is the candidate and that is why some are voting in the Dem primary. It's a set-up. Obama doesn't play to the center. If Barak is the nom, it's hello Prez McCain.

      Posted by: blueINdallas | February 27, 2008 7:31 AM

    26. AP, You need to contact Brian, I had a simlar problem with I tunes that was really tracked to Quicktime - which installs with Itunes.

      Brian was very helpful

      Posted by: Ping Pong Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 7:33 AM

    27. KO on Charlie Rose tonight.

      Posted by: ubns Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 7:36 AM

    28. When I woke up a miracle occurred. Scarborough was saying mean things about Senator Obama. Things that just might have been useful to know several months ago. (1) He was representing an anti-war district when he took his stand against the war., (2) When he started running for the U. W. Senate statewide he fudged on that support and removed the letter to his district constituents about it down from his website. (3) Since being in the Senate he has voted every pro war bill.

      IOW, He's a politician not a profile in courage. Just another one who says what people want to hear. Why has no one on TV including Mr. Scarborough said any of this before now? It just might be something the anti-war people really wanted to know about their candidate.

      Posted by: jamie | February 27, 2008 7:38 AM

    29. Warren! I've found your girlfriend! An Obama volunteer who wants Hillary to drop out! Here's what she had to say at Salon:

      "I want to go home to clean out my basement and get a pedicure. Maybe take my elderly mother to lunch and help my sister with my niece's upcoming wedding...I don't want to go to Pennsylvania! Please God, no!!!

      Please Hillary, get out of the damn race -- if not now -- then after Ohio and Texas! PLEASE!!

      We want to go home and we want our lives back -- even if you don't Joan and Hillary!"

      Posted by: Patsi | February 27, 2008 7:38 AM

    30. Interesting observation. This morning on MoJo, Mika asked Tim Russert about Obama's response to his question on the new Russian president. Russert side step the question by inserting his observation that Obama and HRC looked at one another, but Russert never answered Mika's question, and true to Mika's performance she didn't press Russert for an answer. BTW, Obama basically parroted HRC's reply.

      Posted by: FryDaddy Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 7:40 AM

    31. I just pray that HRC does not bring up the SNL skits!!

      Posted by: LushIsLinda | February 26, 2008 6:08 PM
      _________

      Why why would HRC think this was a good idea? 8(

      Posted by: LushIsLinda Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 7:47 AM

    32. It was okay to bring it up, she just did it at the wrong moment. She should have walked on stage with a pillow and handed it to him.

      Everyone would have known instantly without her saying a word that "Bitch is the new black">

      Posted by: jamie | February 27, 2008 7:50 AM

    33. "but Russert never answered Mika's question, and true to Mika's performance she didn't press Russert for an answer."
      --FryDaddy

      uh huh...what else is new?

      Posted by: LushIsLinda Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 7:50 AM

    34. ping pong...

      I screwed up and change the DCOM properties also and the rights permissions got changed.

      However, even after uninstalling Quicktime and Itunes didn't help. I found a page while googling that said Apple no longer supported Itunes under win2k. And that was with three days of doing searches on how come I could not get Itunes to install.

      So after playing in the Registry trying to find the key I need to restore to the original default and not finding it I'm left with a new install so I can once again access my ATI TV Tuner as well as the Nero TV from my software package for my burner.

      The TV will not open for ATI and under Nero it won't let me set the country or signal. So I have no choice now but to re install everything.

      Got to go now. Take care and ...

      God Bless.

      Posted by: anon-paranoid Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 7:54 AM

    35. Oops. It has an exta syllable. Device no work-y.

      jamie - Then she should have rubbed his feet during the entire debate. Actually, KO probably would've liked that job.

      I'm so glad she pushed him on the Farrkhan issue, because he would've later said that he didn't reject it if he was somewhere where it could help him.

      Posted by: blueINdallas | February 27, 2008 7:58 AM

    36. Here are their answers to Russert's question on the new Russian president. First HRC and then BHO.


      CLINTON: Well, I can tell you that he's a hand-picked successor, that he is someone who is obviously being installed by Putin, who Putin can control, who has very little independence, the best we know. You know, there's a lot of information still to be acquired. That the so-called opposition was basically run out of the political opportunity to wage a campaign against Putin's hand-picked successor, and the so-called leading opposition figure spends most of his time praising Putin. So this is a clever but transparent way for Putin to hold on to power, and it raises serious issues about how we're going to deal with Russia going forward.

      I have been very critical of the Bush administration for what I
      believe to have been an incoherent policy toward Russia. And with the reassertion of Russia's role in Europe, with some of the mischief that they seem to be causing in supporting Iran's nuclear ambitions, for example, it's imperative that we begin to have a more realistic and
      effective strategy toward Russia. But I have no doubt, as president, even though technically the meetings may be with the man who is labeled as president, the decisions will be made by Putin.


      OBAMA: Well, I think Senator Clinton speaks accurately about him. He is somebody who was hand-picked by Putin. Putin has been very clear that he will continue to have the strongest hand in Russia in terms of running the government. And, you know, it looks -- just think back to the beginning of President Bush's administration when he said -- you know, he met with Putin, looked into his eyes and saw his soul, and figured he could do business with him.

      He then proceeded to neglect our relationship with Russia at a time when Putin was strangling any opposition in the country when he was consolidating power, rattling sabers against his European neighbors, as well as satellites of the former Soviet Union. And so we did not send a signal to Mr. Putin that, in fact, we were going to be serious about issues like human rights, issues like international cooperation that were critical to us. That is something that we have to change

      Posted by: FryDaddy Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 8:01 AM

    37. Reasons for Florida to vote Democratic in the fall.

      ".....an 8.9 drop in home prices nationwide in the fourth quarter of 2007 compared with the same period in 2006...................................Miami led all cities with a 17.5 percent year-over-year drop in prices in the quarter"

      http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/28760.html


      Jack

      Posted by: whskyjack | February 27, 2008 8:05 AM

    38. good morning gang.....

      Craig.... the guy who sang Imagine is David Archuleta.... he's only 17 yrs old and he's phenomenal!

      I did watch some of the debate..... I thought they both looked and sounded tired..... of course.... I'm tired of watching debates....

      Tim Russert is a joke..... the Washington Monthly had a great article this month entitled "The Inanity of Tim Russert"..... unfortunately they won't allow it to be linked from their website....

      Blue.... yep..... he didn't want to piss off any potential voters....

      jax... welcome to the blog.... I think I remember you posting something a while back....

      Posted by: RebelliousRenee | February 27, 2008 8:06 AM

    39. Patsi, I supported Ford as well. Periodically I get these emails from him saying that he's going to be on Fox at such and such a time. I just can't bring myself to watch an opinion session on that network.

      Have you watched him? What is his message?

      He was tremendously graceful during his campaign.

      Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 8:12 AM

    40. Obama on the Irq war:
      On the most important foreign policy decision that we face in a generation, whether or not to go into Iraq, I was very clear as to why we should not, that it would fan the flames of anti-American sentiment, that it would distract us from Afghanistan, that it would cost us billions of dollars, thousands of lives, and would not make us more safe, and I do not believe it has made us more safe.

      Lani Davis said this morning on MoJo, that once BHO became a US Senator and was asked how he would now have voted, BHO said, "I DON'T KNOW."

      Posted by: FryDaddy Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 8:15 AM

    41. Pronouncing Russian names. I don't fault Hillary for fumbling over the pronunciation; so often the 'press' pronunciations bear little resemblance to how a Russian speaker with pronounce a name. Something as simple as Vladimir is an example. Y'all pronounce Medvedev as a Russian would.

      Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 8:20 AM

    42. For a person who was so against going into Iraq, he seems to waffle a lot on that position.

      ‘When asked about Senators Kerry and Edwards' votes on the Iraq war, Obama said, "I'm not privy to Senate intelligence reports,’ Mr. Obama said. ‘What would I have done? I don't know. What I know is that from my vantage point the case was not made.’

      In a meeting with Chicago Tribune reporters at the Democratic National Convention, Obama said, “On Iraq, on paper, there's not as much difference, I think, between the Bush administration and a Kerry administration as there would have been a year ago. […] There's not much of a difference between my position and George Bush's position at this stage.” [Chicago Tribune, 07/27/04]

      Specifically, State Senator Obama maintains that an October 2002 anti-war speech was removed from his campaign web site because “the speech was dated once the formal phase of the war was over, and my staff's desire to continually provide fresh news clips."

      In fact, Obama's Senate voting record on Iraq is nearly identical to Clinton's. Over the two years Obama has been in the Senate, the only Iraq-related vote on which they differed was the confirmation earlier this year of General George Casey to be Chief of Staff of the Army, which Obama voted for and Clinton voted against. [ABC News, 5/17/07]

      Posted by: FryDaddy Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 8:25 AM

    43. No offense, I won't miss an opportunity of listening to Andy Rooney when he's on. And it was good hearing him on Imus this morning. IMO he's a treasure--one who won't be with us much longer.

      Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 8:25 AM

    44. Thank you Craig for mentioning the obvious about the media. Morning Joe is such an idiot program. At least if Criag is on it will make it a little more classy.
      "she got to dictate the tone of the debate" Shows a real leader in my mind.
      I think she showed her strong strong character. Obama "parroted" her words, as was mentioned earlier on here. I like parrot, it is so true.
      It was not scrutiny it was negative attacks on Hillary, She will win Ohio big and TX. Oh yes the special interest groups are supporting Obama And who are they?

      Posted by: Carol Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 8:32 AM

    45. Fry wrote: "BTW, Obama basically parroted HRC's reply."

      To go a bit further on this subject - the thing I found most interesting when Obama was answering this question - and foreign policy questions is how he NEVER answered what he currently knows or what he would do - he kept talking about the past.

      When asked what he knows about Medvedev - he said - what she said - and the proceeded to talk about Putin during the Bush years - stuff even I know.

      When asked if he would defend Kosovo if they were invaded - he never answered that question but chose instead to talk about Bill Clinton's handling of the situation back in the '90's. At least he finally said something nice about the Clinton administration even if he never answered the question.

      Still confused about how Obama would handle tough decisions if President when it comes to dealing with issues around the world.

      The one thing I will say about the debate last night - for the most part, Russert was an equal opporutnity A#$ H#$@.

      Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 8:44 AM

    46. Jamie wrote: "She should have walked on stage with a pillow and handed it to him."

      That's really brilliant - you should have e-mailed that idea to the campaign.

      Or before they got started - before she answered her first question, she could have turned to BO and said

      Are you ok...do you need anything...a pillow?

      LOL

      I will say that I am glad that she brought up the - I just want to point out that I always get the first question here. She could have left the SNL part out and actually made a better point just by hittin' on the first question issue. I noticed after that...they changed it up a bit.

      Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 8:46 AM

    47. Last night, the SNL comment fell flat. Today it is the lead story and has given ammunition to all the HRC haters.

      I think if HRC was concerned about always getting the first question, she should have discussed that with the moderators, beforehand.

      Posted by: LushIsLinda Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 8:56 AM

    48. From the article Ad linked earlier:

      "You know what, Tim, I'm not going to answer that question. This is serious business. And you, sir, are a disgrace. You have in front of you a group of accomplished, talented leaders, one of whom will in all likelihood be the next president of the United States. You can ask them whatever you want. And you choose to engage in this ridiculous gotcha game, thinking up inane questions you hope will trick us into saying something controversial or stupid. Your fondest hope is that the answer to your question will destroy someone's campaign. You're not a journalist, you're the worst kind of hack, someone whose efforts not only don't contribute to a better informed electorate, they make everyone dumber. So no, I'm not going to stand here and try to come up with the most politically safe Bible verse to cite. Is that the best you can do?"

      That would be really funny. I can see a Ron Paul doing something like that.

      Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 9:06 AM

    49. a political problem for the Republicans in Florida.

      " In a case that puts the Bush administration in a legal dilemma, Cuban-American groups demanded Tuesday that the Justice Department indict Fidel Castro — who no longer enjoys immunity as head of state — for the 1996 downing of two airplanes over international waters."

      http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/28773.html

      "If we can make a claim to be able to haul into our courts Castro, then why can't another country attempt to haul (former Defense Secretary Donald) Rumsfeld or Mr. Bush or (Vice President) Cheney?" he added"

      Looks like fun

      Jack

      Posted by: whskyjack | February 27, 2008 9:07 AM

    50. The SNL comment did fall rather flat, and yes the MSM is now leading with her statement. on the first question issue, HRC should have just mentioned it briefly, something like ,"Tim I see you are practicing the ladies before gentlemen method. Thank you." She really can't make to much of a issue about this although it does provide your opponent time to make notes and reflect on your initial comments. Russert, if he had been thinking, should have first posed the new Russian question to BHO. His lack of knowledge on current foreign affairs would have leaped to the surface.

      Posted by: FryDaddy Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 9:11 AM

    51. Wendy, love it! At this stage of the campaign she has nothing to lose and lots to gain by challenging the quality of the so-called moderation. But, I guess, it's all moot now.

      Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 9:11 AM

    52. Hey LL

      I agree that she should have left SNL out of it or as Jamie suggested - make it funnier.

      But I do think it was good for her to bring it up live during the debate - call attention to the unbalanced media coverage and special treatment for BO. But definitely should have not brought up SNL - I thought of your comment yesterday when she did that and cringed a little.

      LOL

      Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 9:15 AM

    53. For those who have grown disenchanted with MSNBC/ MOJO in particular

      MOJO ratings down 13% year to year since replacing IMUS.
      Feb 07 Imus 393,000 viewers
      Feb 08 MOJO 343,000 viewers

      http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/february_ratings_fox_friends_everyone_else_78416.asp#more

      Posted by: Coreen | February 27, 2008 9:15 AM

    54. Clare McCaskill this morning said,

      "Its amazing that someone who is a relative new comer, with no experience, who was way behind for half the year and STILL refused to kick anyone's kneecaps, is now beating the front runner." "It tells you what Americans want and Senator Clinton still doesn't get it."

      Senator Hillary Rodham-Clinton, has run a terrible campaign and Senator Barack Hussein Obama has a built a mullti million dollar campaign with small doners. He has created a brilliant setup and is managing this campaign on his own. His campaign certainly relfects his abilities.

      Now who has better management skills and who has better strategic judgement? At times like these, we don't need to trump experience over judgement.

      Now time to go to work. You all have a wonderful day!

      Posted by: Sheila The Chef Nun | February 27, 2008 9:17 AM

    55. "Have you watched him? What is his message?"

      Flatus -- Harold usually just offers even handed observations. I've seen him get semi-confrontational a couple of times, but when he disputes the right, he does it very smoothly -- in a way that they can't really come back at, but leave him looking smart but not angry. He's good, and effective on that channel. Tougher than Colmes, and -- smarter.

      Of course, I've only seen him three or four times when I got those emails and remembered to watch.

      Harold was/is too conservative for me. But to tell you the truth, I think he would have been good in Pelosi's job, which he ran for.

      Posted by: Patsi | February 27, 2008 9:19 AM

    56. Does anyone have any ideas on how to get our message across to the media to stop being bias? I have sent many many emails to them giving my point of view on their bias. This is not fair to your country and may in fact lead to our demise. As old as I am I may not see it, but it will happen. It will happen if people keep getting brain washed by the media.
      Is this happening because the media is republican and they want Obama because they know McCain will win against him???

      Posted by: Carol Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 9:20 AM

    57. Sheila quoted McCaskill: "Its amazing that someone who is a relative new comer, with no experience"

      Yes, this is amazing and frightening all at the same time.

      Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 9:21 AM

    58. " Russert, if he had been thinking, should have first posed the new Russian question to BHO. His lack of knowledge on current foreign affairs would have leaped to the surface."

      He knew damned well Obama didn't know the answer. Although Obama's shill on MoJo just lied and said, "Of course he knew the answer!"

      What a crock. He would have jumped in immediately, or at least corrected her pronounciation."

      Posted by: Patsi | February 27, 2008 9:25 AM

    59. The democratic party will have a very big dilemna. If it remains close to the end and no one gets the majority, each support group for each candidate will be alienated. It sure cannot drag out to the convention, that gives McCain a big advantage.
      Remember BillClinton did not get the nomination until June. What about Fl and Mich? What a mess. Hillary has to win big so she can truly be the winner

      Posted by: Carol Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 9:29 AM

    60. The democratic party will have a very big dilemna. If it remains close to the end and no one gets the majority, each support group for each candidate will be alienated. It sure cannot drag out to the convention, that gives McCain a big advantage.
      Remember BillClinton did not get the nomination until June. What about Fl and Mich? What a mess. Hillary has to win big so she can truly be the winner

      Posted by: Carol Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 9:29 AM

    61. Well this weekend I'm getting away from politics to do something completely different: lying, cheating, sibling rivalry, love affairs, crime and punishment - well maybe it isn't all that different

      http://jdurward.blogspot.com/

      Posted by: jamie | February 27, 2008 9:34 AM

    62. Ad Hom -- thanks for the Russert links. He's become insufferable and not just to Hillary. His whole line of questioning downgrades the entire dialogue. I liked this observation from your second linked piece, regarding Russert asking Obama his favrite Bible verse:

      "Indeed it is, because the process is controlled by Tim Russert and people like him. Russert's Bible question encapsulates everything wrong with him, and with our political coverage more generally. It seeks to make candidates look bad rather than finding out something important about them (if you want to explore a candidate's religious beliefs, you don't do it in pop-quiz form and give them just ten seconds to answer). It substitutes the personal anecdote for the policy position, the sound-bite for the substantive answer. It distills the debate into a series of allegedly symbolic, supposedly meaningful moments that can be replayed. "

      Posted by: Patsi | February 27, 2008 9:36 AM

    63. Don't want to leave....so one more time!


      He knew damned well Obama didn't know the answer. Although Obama's shill on MoJo just lied and said, "Of course he knew the answer!"

      What a crock. He would have jumped in immediately, or at least corrected her pronounciation."

      Posted by: Patsi | February 27, 2008 9:25 AM

      Senator Barack Hussein Obama's reaction.

      Strategically is was sound. (1) Let Clinton fall on her sword. he's wanting to put this Primary away and so let her make her own mistakes.

      (2) If he had corrected Senator Clinton; More than likely it would have been perceived as a "Sexist Tone" and a feeding frenzy would have occurred.

      So, Kudo's for Senator Barack Hussein Obama

      Posted by: Sheila The Chef Nun | February 27, 2008 9:37 AM

    64. Diva -- I neglected to hand you props for this one!

      "For Dimitry vote 1-866-66-PUTIN "

      Posted by: Patsi | February 27, 2008 9:37 AM

    65. Ok now I am getting really angry. I am in Ohio and read the Akron Beacon Journal on line. Today when I went on the site, a Obama site was on top of it asking me to view his video. This is sick. Where is he getting his money? This is getting scary, very scary. If he is influtrating the computer, that is scary.
      I sent an email to the editor asking what is going on. The Beacon is supporting Hillary. Very sick

      Posted by: Carol Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 9:45 AM

    66. I notice that MSNBC is not showing the BHO side of the Medvedev question.

      If I am not mistaken, I think BHO also mispronounced Medvedev's name.

      TR said something about it earleir, but they are not showing the clip.

      Posted by: LushIsLinda Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 9:45 AM

    67. " If he had corrected Senator Clinton; More than likely it would have been perceived as a "Sexist Tone" and a feeding frenzy would have occurred. "

      Not unless he did his trademark Bushsmirk.

      Posted by: Patsi | February 27, 2008 9:53 AM

    68. Has anyone noticed that the only guess speakers on Morning Joe are Obama supporters? They have to be worried that she will win Ohio.
      I think I need to go back to work, school. To many snow days gives me too much time to do this kind of thing. haha
      I called the Clinton camp to report about the Beacon and they said it was NOT political but Financial. Where is Obama getting his money? Why doesn't someone ask that question?

      Posted by: Carol Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 9:57 AM

    69. When hillary let lose about being asked the first question, Tim said it was a throw up question when she took the question. I don't recall that. Is he right?

      Posted by: vadaryl Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 9:58 AM

    70. sorry, I was wrong about BHO mispronouncing Medvedev's name.

      http://youtube.com/watch?v=KnTeefAZm6Q
      --(4:50)

      He was smart enough to steer clear of the name, as was TR.

      Posted by: LushIsLinda Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 10:02 AM

    71. RUSSERT: The title of one of your books, "Audacity of Hope," you acknowledge you got from a sermon from Reverend Jeremiah Wright, the head of the Trinity United Church. He said that Louis Farrakhan "epitomizes greatness."

      OBAMA: Tim, I have to say I don't see a difference between
      denouncing and rejecting. There's no formal offer of help from Minister Farrakhan that would involve me rejecting it. But if the word "reject" Senator Clinton feels is stronger than the word "denounce," then I'm happy to concede the point, and I would reject and denounce.

      To BHO credit he denounced Minister Farrakhan, but no where in BHO's response does he address Reverend Jeremiah Wright.

      For the full video go to MSNBC. Note if you watch this video take note what happen just prior to the break. HRC is trying to make some comments but is cut off by Brian Williams, who informs her she will be allowed to finish those comments after the break. After the break BHO was asked another question, HRC was never offered the opportunity to complete her comment.

      Posted by: FryDaddy Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 10:02 AM

    72. Ad Hom....
      thanks for posting the Washington Monthly article.... I don't subscribe online.... I actually get a hard copy of the magazine and read it while eating breakfast.....
      I know..... that's so anachronistic..... I'm supposed to be watching tv while eating..... preferably Morning Joe..... but I prefer to keep my breakfast in my stomach and not in the toilet...... ;)

      and thanks HarborW and Warren for you posts on Lost last night..... I did hear Kate call the baby Aaron..... but completely forgot that that was the name of Claire's baby (named after her dead brother)..... I only watched a few episodes last season and have forgotten some stuff....

      Jamie..... I will be taking a break from politics next week...... will be going on vacation up north (yes Pogo.... I'll be shopping at LaHouts).... I plan on spending March 5th in a hot tub....

      Posted by: RebelliousRenee | February 27, 2008 10:05 AM

    73. mornin' all.

      Uhhh, Patsi, that was Ping Pong that said that commented on the article. I was busy shuttling Little Pogo to a friend's house to gooff off after we got a whopping 1" of snow last night. Good Grief.

      Jack,I think what you will see re:Castro, Rummy, et al.is an international legal system prosecutorial circle jerk - and no one will be charged.

      Carol, I could be wrong, but I believe that the moderators of the debates goafter Hillary because it will be considered a better broadcast moment to get Hillary than Obama - she's the tougher debater, is smarter, and harder to one up. Their problem is that they listen to themselves more than they listen to the candidates' answers and half the time don't even seem to understand that the candidate has changed the subject and not answered the question asked, so they ask idiotic softball follow up questions even when the original questions might have been decent. And when you said "What about Fl and Mich? What a mess.", you certainly stated the truth.

      While I was trying to hang a light, I heard Mrs.Pogo - not a political junkie like her idiot husband- say in a somewhat attenuated voice"Damn, can't he even answer a damn question?" That's when I decided I needed to watch some of the debate.I only saw about half the debate last night due to the demands of house and family - but what I saw made Obama look like the lightweight that Hillary supporters have claimed he is.

      Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 10:08 AM

    74. "HRC was never offered the opportunity to complete her comment."
      --FryDaddy

      I was hoping she would speak up and be allowed to finish her point.

      IMHO, HRC is in a no-win situation. If she had spoken up, she would have been labeled as a b*tchy woman...trying to make waves.

      Posted by: LushIsLinda Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 10:08 AM

    75. The very first set of question were directed at HRC. Russert is just plain wrong.

      1. WILLIAMS: Thanks to our candidates for being here on a snowy night in the great city of Cleveland, Ohio.

      A lot has been said since we last gathered in this forum,
      certainly in the few days since you two last debated.

      Senator Clinton, in your comments especially, the difference has been striking. And let's begin by taking a look.


      2. WILLIAMS: Senator Clinton, we're here in Ohio. Senator Obama is here. This is the debate. You would agree the difference in tone over just those 48 hours was striking.

      3. WILLIAMS: On the topic of accurate information and to that end, one of the things that has happened over the past 36 hours, a photo went out on the Website, the "Drudge Report," showing Senator Obama in the native garb of a nation he was visiting, as you have done in a host country on a trip overseas.

      Matt Drudge, on his Website, said it came from a source inside the Clinton campaign.

      Can you say unequivocally here tonight it did not?

      Posted by: FryDaddy Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 10:13 AM

    76. renee, of course, I envy you. Need new skis? Should be a great time to buy them. Have a terrific time, and enjoy the hot tub. And I expect you to come back with your best recommendation for the best restaurant in the Loon area - come hell or high water I plan to get Mrs. Pogo up there this summer and want to know I didn't miss the best food in the area.

      Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 10:14 AM

    77. My advice to HRC this morning....

      Don't give up..it ain't over!!!

      http://youtube.com/watch?v=nwSu7FOyJdM

      seal--HRC
      sharks--TR, KO, CM, JS, MB and BHO...LOLOL!!

      YA!!!!! GO SEAL!!!!

      EVERYBODY SING!!!!

      Posted by: LushIsLinda Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 10:16 AM

    78. Lush

      She stumbled on the Medvedev name probably from lack of practice since Russian pronunciations can really mess you up if you don't know where to put the sylable breaks and emphasis, but she knew who he was and had the issues down cold.

      Barrack came behind her and as usual parroted what she said in simpler language with his usual "me too teacher".

      Posted by: jamie | February 27, 2008 10:27 AM

    79. "I plan on spending March 5th in a hot tub...."

      Another assignation with Jeremy?

      Posted by: jamie | February 27, 2008 10:31 AM

    80. I know, Jamie

      BHO just should've said, "ditto" 8D

      Posted by: LushIsLinda Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 10:31 AM

    81. things are gettin' 'Kinky" on MSNBC

      Posted by: LushIsLinda Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 10:34 AM

    82. "should've said, "ditto""

      Nyet! Limbaugh would have been on air bragging about Senator Obama quoting the listeners of Rush.

      Posted by: jamie | February 27, 2008 10:35 AM

    83. LOL @ nyet!!!

      Posted by: LushIsLinda Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 10:39 AM

    84. Nothing like waking up to Patsi calling you an "asshole".

      My grandfather used to say that when you had to resort to expletives, you were out of real ideas. And somehow, that doesn't surprise me when it comes to Patsi, who really never had any ideas other that "I HATE OBAMA!" blah, blah, blah.

      You keep reaching for that Hillary dream, Patsi.

      Posted by: alpha1906 Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 10:48 AM

    85. Sturgeone,

      Sorry, but I went to bed before answering your question. 1906 is the founding date of my fraternity, the oldest African American fraternity in the country: Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc.

      Posted by: alpha1906 Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 10:50 AM

    86. Dear Hillary and Barack,

      I know it's too early to start attacking McCain again, what with the primary races still going on and all, but when one of you actually is the democratic nominee, you may want to use the information from Jane Hamsher in the following link to hit McCain about gaming the system that he pushed through Congress.

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-hamsher/john-mccain-is-breaking-t_b_88434.html

      Very truly yours,

      Pogo

      Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 10:50 AM

    87. Thanks Patsi. But I don't know about a chick that refers to her mom as "elderly" - especially in print.

      Posted by: warren | February 27, 2008 10:54 AM

    88. Pogo! So sorry....I misread the poster name! It sounded too even handed for Ping!

      Posted by: Patsi | February 27, 2008 10:57 AM

    89. Thanks, Patsi. I was mightily disappointed when Harold lost. I was really taken aback by the stridency of the attacks that were made against him with him being from the Blue Dog corner of the Party. They did the same thing against Ronnie Shows, a true friend of military enlisted people. So much for the Party of Lincoln.

      Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:00 AM

    90. Alf -- well, at least you can't call asshole a racist term. Like you do everything else.

      Posted by: Patsi | February 27, 2008 11:01 AM

    91. Alpha,

      Sheila the Chef Nun here. I empathise and agree!

      Where did you go to school and what rags do you write for? Of course you don't have to answer. just curious.

      I find your posts apealing.

      Posted by: Sheila The Chef Nun | February 27, 2008 11:02 AM

    92. Jamie.....
      LOL!.... I can see why he'd be in Honolulu..... but a little ski resort in northern NH..... I don't think so....

      Pogo.... I gave up skiing year before last...... hurt my knee..... not enough for surgery.... but enough to keep me from weaving for almost 6 weeks...... Rick always buys a new pair up there if he needs them....
      and hey..... if you and Mrs. Pogo come to NH this summer, you'd better let me know..... if at all possible.... Rick and I would be happy to take you guys out to dinner.....

      yeah..... I wish the Democrats would start running against the Republicans instead of each other..... if I only had a magic wand and a sparkly dress....
      well..... at least I could leave a quarter on everyone's pillow at night.....

      Posted by: RebelliousRenee | February 27, 2008 11:02 AM

    93. Patsi: plz lay off alpha. He brings a lot of truth to this blog.

      Enough of the personal attacks, folks.

      Posted by: dog's eye view Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:05 AM

    94. Morning peeps, I see things are off to a warm and cozy start today!

      Posted by: Brian In NYC Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:06 AM

    95. Alpha

      There is a blog I visit at least once a week called The Electronic Village. If you are in to AA history and personages and haven't seen it before, you might enjoy it

      http://electronicvillage.blogspot.com/

      Posted by: jamie | February 27, 2008 11:08 AM

    96. AP
      If you email me I'd be happy to send you a copy of XP that you can use.

      Posted by: Brian In NYC Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:09 AM

    97. Renee, if we get up that way, I'll be sure to let you know. I'd love to get Little Pogo up there to see the Presidentials. He's never been above treeline, and I think He's love it. Just have to dodge black fly season.

      Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:10 AM

    98. Brian, you trying to drag AP kicking an screaming in to 2004? :-{)

      Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:13 AM

    99. Hey Shelia,

      Thanks for the comment. My days of turning in daily edit are over. Instead, I'm fortunate enough to be able to write books full time. My BA and Masters degrees are from West Coast schools usually named the best in the country. I hate to be so James Bond like, but I like being anonymous on this blog.

      Posted by: alpha1906 Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:13 AM

    100. duh, that would be "I think he'd love it." damn fingers.

      Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:14 AM

    101. "kicking and screaming" damn fingers

      Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:14 AM

    102. Thanks Jamie, I'll check it out.

      Posted by: alpha1906 Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:15 AM

    103. That's Ok Alpha AKA James.... ;0)

      What kind of books......

      Listen, maybe this is better.

      chefstonesheila at gee mail dot com

      If you don't want to talk further just ignore, but I would love to know. You sound intriguing.

      Posted by: Sheila The Chef Nun | February 27, 2008 11:17 AM

    104. I think it is good how the world is taking an interest in this election.

      http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080227/pl_nm/usa_politics_kenya_dc

      On Charlie Rose, some guy who sounded pretty sharp and talked with an accent said Obamamania has hit Europe and people are following the US election in bars and pubs all over. Expectations will have to be managed - but I could not think of anything better happening in the election to replace Bush.

      The panel agreed that Europe is looking for a change in tone from America. Me too!

      Posted by: warren | February 27, 2008 11:17 AM

    105. Hate to break it to the Friends of Obama but Hillary is sending her supporters poll numbers for West Virginia (primary all the way out there on May 13). This might be a sign that she plans to stay in the race no matter what happens next week...and frankly, if he doesn't have the 2025 to seal up the nomination...why not.

      hehehe. Will be fun to read all the posts about how she should drop out of the race. I can't wait!

      http://www.dailymail.com/News/election08/200802260192

      :-D

      Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:30 AM

    106. Hillary gets it and I think she will be out after Mar. 4. Much like Edwards did in his last hurrah - Hillary has taken to driving a single issue - healthcare - instead of trying to win.

      She is going a good job and I am sure she will be pivotal on this issue on the Senate floor.

      Posted by: warren | February 27, 2008 11:34 AM

    107. Wendy!, If Hillary is still in the race in May, she has a great chance to win WV - people here loved Bill, and a lot of the folks here are from European ethnic stock who won't vote for a black candidate. There's a local blog here that sometimes drifts into politics, and when it has, it has been predominantly pro Clinton.

      Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:35 AM

    108. William F. Buckley, Jr. has died.

      Posted by: dog's eye view Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:36 AM

    109. William F. Buckley Jr. Is Dead at 82

      Posted by: Brian In NYC Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:37 AM

    110. NYT obit for WFBuckley.

      Found dead this morning in his study.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/27/business/media/27cnd-buckley.html?hp=&pagewanted=all

      This is a shame. RIP. I would have liked to see his take on the 2008 race.

      Posted by: dog's eye view Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:41 AM

    111. A true master of the one line smart ass come back. Firing Line was the first political talk show that I really got into. Disagreeing with Buckley was fun. A face with a million different expressions and not afraid to laugh at himself.

      Posted by: Brian In NYC Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:43 AM

    112. Yes, and he had a learning curve. He was one of the first conservatives to part company with Geo W Bush, the lesser.

      Plus, really like his son, Christopher Buckley, who wrote "Thank You for Smoking."

      A life well lived.

      Posted by: dog's eye view Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:45 AM

    113. The Russian pronunciation for his name is over here:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Medvedev

      I think Hillary did pretty darn good on it.

      Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:47 AM

    114. Brain in NY...

      Thanks Brian, but I just bought the retail version this past December before its no longer available.

      I really want to keep my Win2k on what I'm running now. I am looking to build another box when I can afford it and XP will go onto it when built.

      Like I said earlier I can still get online and do read I no longer want to get involved in the who's candidate is better or become engaged in the personal attacks I see still go on.

      No matter what everyone will still support the same person they did before in the primaries. Only now though there also attacking the messenger. I don't want to become involved in this as I consider many of you friends.

      Thanks again though for the offer.

      God Bless all.

      Posted by: anon-paranoid Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:52 AM

    115. I agree, Flatus.

      If not for the "whatever", I don't even think anyone would have noticed the mispronunciation. 8(

      Posted by: LushIsLinda Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:52 AM

    116. AP: so good to see you! And you are very wise.

      Posted by: dog's eye view Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:54 AM

    117. vadaryl,

      I don't think Russert made it clear that it was a "jumpball" question, but I think he's right in saying he didn't specifically direct the question at either of them. Then again, if you're Hillary and you feel he's looking at you when he finishes his question, why not jump on it?

      This morning Imus said who was asked first was equal or roughly equal when all was said and done. That ignores the obvious, which kinds of questions were directed at each candidate?

      Bernard McGuirk was right to defend Hillary, and Russert should have directed the Russia question to Senator Obama first. Perhaps, he would have nailed it, and then many of his detractors would have to acknowledge that he was prepared. As it is, 'parroted' Hillary's answer is exactly the right description.

      Russert did a disservice to both the viewers and Senator Obama by not giving him first shot at this foreign affairs question. My only clue as to Senator Obama's knowledge on this issue is that Senator Clinton clearly avoided trying to name Medvedev when she answered first. Knowing that, Senator Obama would have made sure to include the name or even a bad pronunciation in his answer just to prove his knowledge on the subject. His failure to make a stab at the name in his original answer, tells me he didn't know it either. No sin there. That's just how I saw it.

      Posted by: EdVB Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:58 AM

    118. AP - you're making a wise choice - I've backed away from much of the discussion for those very reasons. I am leaving the personal vitriol to others. Once the primaries are over and the parties engage, I'll participate more.

      Sorry to hear about Buckley - I agreed with him once, I think, but always enjoyed him.

      Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 11:59 AM

    119. dog's eye view...

      You to. I really need to only comment sparingly as I'm at work and not suppose to be doing blogs.

      For some reason this and some other sites are not blocked or should I say affected by the blocks imposed by my employer.

      Hope everyone has a great day and I'll try to check in later tonight from home. I can still use my pc, however I do dearly miss using my ATI tuner to watch and listen too two shows at once.

      Take care all and ...

      God Bless.

      Posted by: anon-paranoid Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 12:02 PM

    120. dog's -- Then Alf should stop calling people racist for every other word. That gets old.

      Posted by: Patsi | February 27, 2008 12:10 PM

    121. WRT to the incoming Russian leader's name and prononciation: Could either of them have gotten away with something like:

      "Forgive my pronunciation, believe it's Mmmdev.

      And believe you me, George Bush is privately thankful for having a President named Putin on his watch."

      PS: NYTimes -- or someone -- had major article on the guy yesterday; I am ill informed and could have grasped at the name (imperfectly). But then I am not a debater, and it was sheer luck to have seen the article.

      Posted by: dog's eye view Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 12:15 PM

    122. MR. RUSSERT: Do you reject his support?

      SEN. OBAMA: Well, Tim, you know, I can't say to somebody that he can't say that he thinks I'm a good guy. (Laughter.)

      So...how hard would it have been to say:

      Yes, Tim, I unequivocally reject his support. I don't want to be associated with anyone who preaches hatred of any kind.

      Just wondering.

      :-D

      Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 12:15 PM

    123. this was posted by on Taylor Marsh today by someone commenting - good article

      http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/views/orl-dibacco2608feb26,0,7365559.story

      Posted by: econsmed Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 12:17 PM

    124. EdVB

      I think your analysis nails it. I actually paused it and said to my friend, they should have made him answer first - see if he knows what he's talking about. Then I said, watch, when he answers, he'll simply agree with what she said and then not add anything to the conversation- which he didn't - he simply started talking about Putin and Bush.

      They really didn't do him any favors IMHO by letting her go first...or...maybe they did.

      Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 12:26 PM

    125. PS: this may surprise you, but I think the Russian president-elect question should have been directed first to Obama too.

      Posted by: dog's eye view Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 12:29 PM

    126. No one appears to have noticed, but in Russian, Hillary pronounced Medvedev's name correctly - if he were a woman. In the coverage and video clips she clearly pronounces "MED VED YEVA," the exact feminine form of Medvedev. How would she like it if he called her "Mister Clinton?"

      Posted by: slavist | February 27, 2008 12:30 PM

    127. Slavist: that is very interesting. Plus the spelling of Kosova (if memory serves) in a recent statement.

      Здравствуйте!

      Posted by: dog's eye view Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 12:40 PM

    128. After Senator Clinton attempted to pronounce the Russian name, she giggled and said, "whatever" or some such dismissive remark. And that, to me, said that she sure didn't learn much tact or diplomacy during her 8 years in the White House or her 35 years of experience overall.

      Foreign leaders expect Mr. Bush to mangle their names because he clearly isn't too bright or too caring about anything but himself. However, those leaders would be offended, rightfully, if a clearly intelligent , supposedly committed person giggled and acted like correct pronunciation is not all that important.

      And all of a sudden, I knew that Senator Clinton would not be ready to be president on day one. Mr. Bush has hurt our global reputation enough already; his successor should not do further damage but must work (hard) to repair our standing.

      It's fine to have disagreements about policy, but it is imperative to reinforce individual dignity.

      Years ago, someone said, "print anything you want about me, but spell my name correctly" (or words to that effect) and the sentiment still holds. People continue to feel belittled and insulted when others do not care enough even to get their name correct.

      Posted by: benjaminblue | February 27, 2008 12:42 PM

    129. I disagree about the giggle, BenBlue. It was a human moment, like getting to spell chrysanthemum in a spelling bee when you were expecting "photograph" or something.

      And she may have already mentioned being tired. Campaiging for 4 primaries next week -- grueling.

      Think the audience was thinking "wow, I'm glad I'm not up there getting that question" and then watching for the trainwreck.

      Posted by: dog's eye view Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 12:46 PM

    130. Up thread I recommend The Electronic Village http://electronicvillage.blogspot.com/ to Alpha. I just did a stop by and he is participating in Wordless Wednesday and for your Obama supporters he has some truly lovely pictures of Senator Obama's family. If you haven't seen them, the wedding picture is very nice.

      That's my good deed for the day ... back to supporting Hillary. :-)

      Posted by: jamie | February 27, 2008 12:55 PM

    131. Patsi,

      Why are you so upset? Why can't you instead take the time to analyze whether or not comments have value, rather than dismissing them?

      "Arrogant" when applied to African American men is not something new. In the past, "Uppity" was the term used to describe African American men who thought of themselves not only equal to white people (because I mean, who said white folks are the standard to be equal to?) but more intelligent or capable. Usually, those black men were met with violence. Thankfully, you only use violent words.

      So if you follow the historical use of the term "arrogant" when applied to African Americans, you can make an argument that it's tinged with racism. May not be pleasant to be talk about, but a legitimate concern nonetheless.

      Posted by: alpha1906 Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 12:56 PM

    132. I was disappointed that there was no follow-up question to Sen. Obama after he mocked Sen. Clinton for voting for a bill and then hoping it didn't pass. He said, "If you don't want a bill to pass, you vote no!" The follow-up should have been - In that case, Senator, could you please explain the 187 "present" votes you cast in the Illinois State Senate.

      Posted by: Trish | February 27, 2008 1:00 PM

    133. BenBlue,

      That "Spell my name right in the newspapers" line still holds true, but both Senators had pretty much dismissed Medvedev as a non-person controlled by Putin, so I don't think the focus in Russia would be on a failed attempt at pronouncing the new guy's name.

      His "newness" is another factor. If he becomes the face of Russia, whoever our next President is, he or she will have no trouble pronouncing the name.

      Posted by: EdVB Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 1:01 PM

    134. alpha you're not the first question the repeated use of the word arrogant by some members of this blog when referring to Obama. Don't waste your breath, your words are falling on deaf ears.

      Posted by: Brian In NYC Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 1:05 PM

    135. Sam Zell, Straight From Hell:

      "Obviously what we have going on is an attempt to create a self-fulfilling prophecy," said Zell, chairman of Equity Investments Group and owner of the Chicago Cubs, Chicago Tribune, Los Angeles Times and other companies. "We have two Democratic candidates who are vying with each other to describe the economic situation worse.

      "The reality is that if you live on Wall Street and you're in the credit markets the world couldn't be worse. If you're a farmer and you're getting $25 for your wheat, you're having a great time. If you're a CEO and you've got a balance sheet that's bullet-proof, you're in a great position. This whole thing is way out of control, way out of hand."

      Kids, remember how we used to say "Whatever turns you on..." and move along to the next subject?

      Well, I get to add a codicil to that. If, like Mr. Zell, what turns you involves hanging with your neck in a noose while you ejaculate... it's gonna cause some really serious brain damage.

      Along with my condolences to the Buckley family, I send mine along to the people of Chicago and L.A. and wherever else Mr. Zell spreads ruin.

      Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of) Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 1:07 PM

    136. Well, you'd think after years of people discussing the lives and writing of Roy and Zhores Medvedev, the surname would have moved beyond potato-potahto.

      By the way... Roy supports Putin. (Even when you've been ostracized by the Party and had your brother sent to its looney bin by the KGB, you never forget the first girl you kissed.)

      Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of) Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 1:10 PM

    137. While I am a troll ( I see it useless to attack people on the opinions they have a right to form, we all should be focusing on the bigger issue at hand.

      In class today we had a political discussion...an overwhelming percent said that they were for McCain. One girl said, Im voting for McCain because my dad is rich, and the Democrats will take his money. This young womans vote cannot be changed, but many had no reason why to vote for McCain. While I know my fellow "young" vote is naive and ignorant (not all), but whether it is Mrs. Clinton or Mr. Obama, Democrats need to start coming together. Yes, this is a hell of a lot easier said than done, and yes, I know the race for the Democrat nomination is not complete, but I believe more focus needs to be shifted to the Republican tyrants! Ok, my little jab! I go to school in a swing state, Ohio, so these scary kids that can vote may play a crucial role. Ok, that is all, back to trolling!

      Posted by: Joe S. | February 27, 2008 1:14 PM

    138. Alpha - I think Tim Russert, Ted Kennedy, MoJo, Bill O'Reilly and Chris Matthews are also arrogant jerks. I'm curious if it is ok if I believe these guys are arrogant A#$ H*#% or if it is in someway racist because I am of mixed race?

      Just curious.

      Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 1:15 PM

    139. afternoon, 9/11. Zell sounds like a wonderful human being - if you're into some really weird stuff. Kinda makes Playboys under the mattress seem pretty tame, dontcha think?

      Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 1:19 PM

    140. Joe S.

      Welcome!

      What if some of us aren't Democrats but Independents?

      Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 1:19 PM

    141. Joe S.,

      If what you wrote makes you a troll, I'm packing up and moving under your bridge with you.

      Thanks for your thoughts and how sincerely you expressed them.

      Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of) Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 1:20 PM

    142. pogo,

      Not if you mixed 'em with Ramparts, National Lampoon and National Review.

      Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of) Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 1:22 PM

    143. Wendy,

      I will admit whole-heartedly that the Independent view is one that I need to grasp. Time for some research!

      Posted by: Joe S. | February 27, 2008 1:24 PM

    144. Hi Joe:

      Where do you go to school? What state are you in?

      Posted by: Wendy! Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 1:28 PM

    145. Sen. Byron Dorgan (Dem ND) has just endorsed Obama!

      Posted by: Brian In NYC Author Profile Page | February 27, 2008 1:28 PM

    146. Alpha

      "So if you follow the historical use of the term "arrogant" when applied to African Americans, "

      Without the historical connotation, what if a man displays arrogance. It's not a trait that I appreciate in anyone of any sex or any color. Is there another word I should be using when I think that an ot