Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

I sure hope not!

And just think, Obama has even arrived in Texas.

meant "hasn't"

Yep, Alpha

When he does it will really change things...maybe it is the boost HRC needs...a visit from BHO to Texas.

I'll take that risk. LOL

Which ever way this goes, I hope it is a clear win so all this "stealing an election" talk is finished.

Wonder if this column will gag the folks who drop in an accuse Craig of being a Hillary pawn. Of course we may get the Hillary crowd dropping in an pointing out that he is an Obama partisan.

Good column Craig!

RCP Texas average..
hillary +8.3

Craig seems like a fairminded person. I don't always agree with him, but wouldn't life be boring if I expected
someone to be lockstep with my thoughts.

Sincerely,
Hillary Partisan

Craig...El Paso poll

32% BHO
33.4% HRC
34.6% Unsure

For some reason, 'unsure' is used instead of undecided. That is a large number of undecided...I am happy there will be another debate.

I was listening to a talk show on a black radio station and the host was annoyed by Hillary Clinton's "word's are meaningless" statement.

He felt that she discounted much of the Civil rights movement with that statement because what did Martin Luther King, Malcolm X or even JFK offer that generation...

Many of the pro Obama callers felt that he was the more sincere, the more honest candidate who was setting more realistic expectations for his time in office.

Someone else pointed out that Obama had more legislative experience than Mrs. Clinton. They than asked that is Chelsea ran, could she use watching dad work as "experience" to do the job...

Clinton supporters. Read Craig's article closely - and start getting together your arguments why TX's system is "unfair!" Looks like she might need another distraction to take attention away from the actual results in TX.

I'm well aware than on line polls are not scientifically accurate, but today's CNN poll really showed just how divided Democrats are about these two candidates. Normally a Lou Dobbs poll is 98% to 2% they are asked in such a leading way and the audience just marches in lock step, but look at today's?

Do you believe Senator Barack Obama when he says he borrowed Governor Deval Patrick's words and forgot to mention they were Patrick's?

Yes 54% 4327

No 46% 3697

Marcy,

With regards to your question on the last thread...I see know irony in having that opinion, and then doing volunteer work for a woman's shelter. I was not raised to hit woman, and I would castrate any man who gets his jollies doing so.

My mother told me this story when I was a child. She had a neighbor in Jacmel, who had an abusive drunk husband. He would come home from work and if everything wasn't perfect, he would beat her silly. One night she had enough. After he passed out from a drunken binge, she put a large kettle of water on the stove.. Once it was boiling, she emptied the entire pot on the mans genitals. His scream was heard throughout the entire neighborhood.

While I would hate to be that guy, I love that story. It's extreme but the situation warranted it.

With regards to our current political climate...this president has been the abusive husband...I'll go fetch the water to boil. I really don't care who boils it...just get it done.

Craig,

Would you happen to know how the caucus after the TX primary works? I have been told I need to vote twice and have no idea how or why...

Interesting article in the New York Times today about the Washington State Primary/Caucus:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/18/us/politics/18washington.html?ref=politics

Sounds like many people are using it as a "Comment Card" and the Republicans are using it was a talking point against the Democrats. High times in the Evergreen State!

Hopefully this close poll will encourage the HRC supporters to be sure to vote. She needs their votes...and when she needed money - her supporter came through for her.!

If this plagiarism issue is all that she's got this week, that's sad. My hunch is most people are not going to be swayed by it.

Bear:

http://blackagendareport.net/

Bear

"word's are meaningless" " This is where spin does a major disservice to voters. The way you frame any statement can shove people back and forth across a line. For Clinton words without deeds are just empty promises.

One thing that might help when viewing Hillary Clinton, she was raised and apparently still is a devout Methodist. The whole history of Methodism is "actions speak louder than words". It's not long on charisma, but has marshalled millions to benefit every corner of the world.

Interesting reading about the tradition here in America, is this Wikipedia article about the Chautauqua movement. You can't just go on summer vacation. You have to learn something while you are there. :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chautauqua

Prison Break is on...

Have fun...Euro tom, I haven't a picture, but I won a Halloween Costume contest going as Bryant Gumbel...all I had to do was dress normally and wear glasses. My cousin and her husband have both worked with him and they say I'm the lost Gumbel brother...

REzdog

Michelle said today that this was the first time she was "really proud of America". I'm sure that one isn't going to sit well with a lot of people. I'm sure she didn't mean it to come out the way it sounds, but it just shows how fairly innocent remarks can be twisted into pretzels.

Bear

Did you see the abused women's resource in your area that I posted on the last thread?

Bear

OMG TExas looks worse than Washington. Here is LONG article that will explain it all even if it is written in Martian as translated from the Venusian. How they come up with a real number is beyond me.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/8/17340/43669

Will Clintonites all agree that if Hillary doesn't win Texas, or win it by a large margin, that her campaign is pretty much Mike Huckabee's in a pants suit?

Alpha

NO

Try to pay attention. Just being partisan doesn't give you a clear view of what is going on. Scads of stuff still happening on the ground. There are at least 13 states that really want to have a say in this mess.

Hey, I posted this on the last thread. Maybe it belongs here instead.

Obamania is actually as strong in Europe as in the US. Maybe we can unite…again.

Recent polls show most European countries favor Obama over HRC. The only exception is the UK. It looks like our connection with the rest of the world could be restored with Obama.

http://www.eurotrib.com/?op=displaystory;sid=2008/2/18/16127/3421

“Obama, meanwhile, seems to be appealing to what might be called the new "silent majority." Sure, he's got his share of stage-rushers and Kool-Aid drinkers, but he's also appealed to millions of casual voters—the ones who don't go to his rallies, don't donate to his campaign, but do show up on primary day and check his name off on the ballot. That's the kind of mass casual support that other idol-candidates—Dean four years ago, or, say, Ron Paul this year—never came close to attracting.”…

…”In this sense, he can be likened to Ronald Reagan, who flunked all of the traditional tests of electability in 1980—he was one of the most ideologically extreme candidates ever nominated, he was ignorant of some basic policy details, and he was nearly 70 years old—but whose style, presence and wit connected with the masses and overrode all of those concerns. The term "Reagan Democrat" was born and he won in such an intimidating landslide that his political foes essentially let him enact whatever reforms he wanted for his first few months in office.”

http://www.observer.com/2008/forget-kool-aid-obama-s-support-real?page=0%2C0

One of the first bloggers after this read is a Texan. Interesting what he says.

I agree Jamie.

But to me, Hillary seems to just be waiting for a big enough pretzel to come along and give her a boost.

Alpha,
Please, enough with the pant suit bull sh*t.

I saw HRC in person, I bet she is better looking then you or your wife. Quit with the unsophisticated slams.

What's wrong with pants suits, burrito? She's joked about it herself. No one said she looked bad in them.

REzdog

Just as Bill Clinton's words were twisted to sound racist, so Michelle Obama's words are being twisted to sound arrogant particularly coming on the heels of the "I would have to think about it" remark.

I was confused about our WA primary system, but being from Oklahoma, those Aggies never seem to surprise me.

Jamie,

I agree that there are more states, but those are also states where Obama is going to win some. I just think that if she doesn't win big (and I think she might in Ohio and Pennsylvania, just not Texas), that she'll never catch up in pledged delegates or overall vote count. At that point, the mere mention of allowing those disputed Florida/Michigan non delegates to count will tip super delegates to end this thing by putting Obama over the top.

Just saw a Republican "strateegerist" on Tucker talking about how to attack Obama. It was basically the politics of fear 101 and the same arguments Hillary has made re: "Washington experience."

The only real fact he brought up was Obama's politically unpopular statement re: driver licenses for undocumented workers (i.e., the millions of people living, working and DRIVING in our country). There is no way the Latino vote will break in large numbers to McCain. Si Se Puede!

Especially after McCain starts pandering to his base on this issue, and others. Immigration has become so politicized on the right that it is rarely debated intelligently any more. (Unfortunately for the Dems - McCain is not a hot head on this issue - we'll have to see how far he must go to the right on Immigration to win his base).

I think if Hillary gets the nomination - McCain will be able to run to the center because the Clintons will energize the base for him.

Obama is at the center. Anti-war, increasing government spending on health care, education - and cutting special interests and tax breaks for the uber-rich. Obama wants comprehensive immigation reform and for the government to stop needless pollution of the earth as well as spur new technology in alternative energies.

McCain will try and paint this as a "liberal agenda" and McCain's politics and policies will be perceived as outdated and the politics of yesterday that got us into the current mess.

Voters all across America have called out for change. There is no way (at least that I can see) for McCain to be perceived as the candidate of Change against Obama.

Sorry...dinner break. And in honor of the beef recall and inhumane treatment of cattle at processing plant in Calif...no meat for hubby tonight. Au gratin potatoes, vegies and tofu burger. I actually watched Rove on Faux news while we ate. He thinks HRC may do much better in Wisconsin than anyone expects.

In 2003, reps from Texas came over the border into New Mexico because of redistricting...it was a big issue here in unpopulated land.

http://www.fairvote.org/redistricting/reports/remanual/txnews6.htm

Jamie -
I never once thought BC is racist or being racist. IMO He was mad at the Black vote and was taking a shot a BO, trying to get a little dig in.

"Just recently, Barack Obama was accused of "stealing" Hillary Clinton's economic plan.

No doubt John Edwards can sympathize with Clinton today. Obama's ripoffs are real.

Edwards’s campaign also blasted Obama for parroting the former senator in a foreign policy speech he gave Tuesday in which he said he wanted to work towards ending nuclear proliferation. They said the senator has followed Edwards on a number of issues this campaign year, including healthcare, poverty and now nuclear proliferation."

http://www.taylormarsh.com/

I think women can look hot in pants suits (but what do I know about women anyways...).

Maybe Hillary should learn to play the guitar like the Huck. Then we can see if Bill Clinton can really dance.

Warren

Bill plays a mean sax...one of the sexiest instruments alive!

"Recent polls show most European countries favor Obama over HRC. "

Then by GAWD we better get in line for him!

Well Patsi, the French were right about the war, just like Obama. Maybe that would be a good move.

Patsi

Australians and New Zealanders overwhelming for HRC. : )

"IMO He was mad at the Black vote and was taking a shot a BO, trying to get a little dig in."

IMO he was defending the attacks on his very successful presidency by a novice to the "world stage."

What is wrong with adopting a good idea if you hear one. Don't you wish George Bush thought like that?

Everybody having their own SEPARATE idea for what needs to be done - prevents anyone from agreeing on anything (even though most of the debate takes place at the edges of issues).

Some of it starts to sound downright egotistical if you ask me. "That is MY plan!" MY plan is better than YOUR plan!" Is it that much to ask that Washington just figure out the best plans - sooner rather than later - and start putting them into place.

Warren

You are an attorney, is plagiarism a prosectuable offensive in most states?

Bill Richardson on CNN discussing super Delegates...mentions Al Gore...now talking about MI and FL.

Bill thinks caucuses in those states...MI and FL. Lion Blitzer is mentioning his beard.

Hey Blonde Wino,

To plagerize, you have to take without permission. Patrick gave his permission, so this is a fake charge.

Hey Blondie Who,

Didn't the Australians also back GWB on Iraq? Just sayin'

Thanks for clearing that up Warren...stomp grapes not animals (including peeps).

Personally I think the country is going to get what it deserves. What that is, I have no way of telling. But I do know we, yes WE, have failed ourselves in education, economics, ecology and in world affairs, (the list could go on). We have failed each other as well.

Maybe all those years of only worrying about what's is in for US( the U.S.A. and US as individuals) is coming around to bite us in the @ss.

Blondie:

There are rarely any original arguments in the law (present company excluded). The law is based on plagiarism and precedent. In other words, you are supposed to marshall the opinions of other courts that share and support your client's position.

And yes - in written documents - citation is usually provided. But quoting something in the heat of the moment to make a point - is not a punishible offense in a court of law or in the court of public opinion.

Is it too harsh to call Obama a thief and con man?

Yes, the Australians and New Zealanders did back GWB as did most of the American peeps because of Colin Powell's plea. They feel differently now and Rudd is in power, not Howard. Most were very negative about GWB's and DC (Cheney) visit last year.

Gordo

I do not think BHO is a thief or a con man...he is just a politician.

I'm awake again.. fricken cold... had to have throat coat tea with Whiskey, and I don't drink. It's 3 am and I have to wake up in 2.5 hours, so I am gonna just post this discussion I am having... Warren, I think I mentioned you here but not by name:

Attributed to Warren's suggestion: I have been hearing from an Obama supporter on Craigslist that he believes Hillary would be most effective as Senate Majority Leader....

My problem with the Obama moment is that the media are not supposed to
be creating this mystique while downgrading the other candidate. I
thought their job was to be impartial to the story. It's hard to be
impartial if you are a reporter and bring your kids to Obama rallies
but totally ignore Hillary... Actually ignoring her would be better
because what does happen is anything she says or does that isn't 100%
perfect gets torn apart and spun into this "there the Clintons go
again" story.

I agree with your point on Hillary in 2002. [vote to authorize war in Iraq]
I suspect that she was
trying to overcome criticisms that somehow she wouldn't take threats
to America by terrorists seriously. I think also, perhaps, as a New
York Senator, she felt the need to follow what was believed to be a
terrorist safe-haven. I think also she came into the Senate amidst
much skepticism and questions of her ability to make "tough decisions"
(undercurrents of sexism perhaps?) and she was going to show she had
the mettle to be tough. Ok she messed up, I agree.

I like Cher's comment about Hillary in an ABC interview

Cynthia McFadden: "So do you have a candidate?"

Cher: "For me it's a no-brainer, it's Hillary. I *KNOW* her and I
know what she's like when she not with a whole bunch of people. And
she's a strong woman. And you know what? The men have had it,
they've had it all this time and I don't think they're doing so hot."

Cynthia McFadden: "Much of Hollywood has lined up behind Barack Obama"

Cher: "You know what? I am sure he is a wonderful person, but I had
dinner once with someone in the White House, the first time he was in
the White House, the first night of his Presidency. And this man was
a saint. And all he talked about was what he wanted to do for this
country and his plans for the people -- and the hope that he had. And
because of his inexperience, they cut him off at the knees."

Cynthia McFadden: "Who are you talking about?"

Cher: "Jimmy Carter"

Cynthia McFadden: "Maybe you should run for office."

Cher: "No I'd be terrible!"

Cynthia McFadden: "Would you?"

Cher: "Yeah I'd be swearing and telling the truth"....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwHsHBoWu3E

Ok the tea and whiskey is doing it's trick... I'll get SoME sleep afterall. Tuesdays are always stressful... orders come in, it's the major weekly magazine delivery date, I have new promos to set up in the shop... whine, whine, whine... Actually wine, wine, wine. Nah, not good at this moment. I'll be better in a day or two.

Be nice to each other... ALPHA, are you a professor? If so, in what discipline? If not, what IS your background? cheers,

Tom

OMG that was a long post... so sorry.

oh great now it is raining here.. grrrr and 3 degrees which is... around 35 F?

TTFN...

Dan on MSNBC bashing DC media...Craig...when is your next appearance? I miss you.

The whole world is negative on Bush's policies. And Obama presents the best way to make a clean break. Sorry Hillary - maybe in 2016. Write, sponsor and pass the landmark healthcare legislation first and quit just talking about it. Her cause is best served on the floor of the Senate - and not because she wears a pant suit - it is where her skill set is most effective. She would be a much better President after Obama has brought the country together.

to each his own, Patsi

Go Dan...taking on Huffpo.

Warren...that is your opinion. I respect it, but I do not share the same opinion.

Our hope is still a dream team. I know that is distasteful to some, but it should be a reality.

Patsi, I should have included this for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXlNK4IpWcU

EuroTom:

How you act in private is not why we elect a President. You are running for public office and it is your public life that matters.

But of course the Republican Attack Machine would make brutal attacks on the Clintons' personal life. The attacks you hear from Obama supporters pale in comparison to what you would hear in the general. It would get ugly - and I don't like ugly. I also don't think it is good for the country. I could care less if Hillary can take it - the American public can't and it will simply tune back out.

Hey Tom,

I think I'll keep that to myself. No offense.

Goodness, I thought Olbermann was becoming apoplectic when he was discussing Obama's unattributed use of another's words. Too bad he was on the wrong side of the issue.

I think I have watched my final episode of Countdown tonight. I am tired of the 20 minute commercials for Obama and the included knifing of Hillary. I think she deserves equal time to defend herself. I also hope if she doesn't get the nomination that she stays clear of the Obama ticket. If Obama is lucky enough to become president I think he will be a disaster. I am sure the news media is looking forward to that moment with glee.

So Ironic, But knowing Molly Ivan's as we all did, I do not doubt her conviction.

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/02/molly-ivins-endorses-from-heav.php

Molly Ivins endorses from heaven*

By S. L. - February 17, 2008, 10:22PM
I live in Austin. This evening I was talking to my mother on the phone about the election and about which way Texas would go. She and my 77 year old father caucused for Obama in Colorado. We started talking, as we often do, about the late-great Molly Ivins, a Texas icon and one of my mother's and my shared heroines. Molly lost her battle with breast cancer this last year and her wit and clarity are dearly missed.

I said, "I bet Molly would have choice words for Hillary." I had no doubt what side Molly would be on. Like Obama she was a voice of sanity on Iraq from the beginning. And that gave me the incentive to google Molly Ivins and Clinton. This is the first article that popped up. It was written in January 2006, a year before Hillary or Obama had officially announced.

It is titled, "I will not support Hillary Clinton for president"

Just a little cultural history...didn't the Texas cattlemen take Oprah to task (the Texas vegie law, actually) over her remark about beef and diet??

http://www.livestockweekly.com/papers/98/01/08/whloprah.asp

Any attorney feedback here, Warren?

Steve,

Our household turned Countdown off over a month ago, you'll be happy you did. It's stale, old, and a waste of a good hour.

It has not been missed.

I loved Molly.

Brain

So much for every state having its vote? If you are right, we should just scrape that primary.

Dang Burrito,

What television programs are acceptable to Clintonites? Y'all are constantly turning off this program or complaining about that program, but always WATCHING these programs.

Steve:

The only people looking forward to that speculative moment with glee are the Clinton supporters and the GOP.

Don't you ever think Obama gets positive coverage because a lot of people agree with him and are inspired by his message. How do you write a negative story about a stadium being packed with 15,000 people to listen to a politician instead of a sports event or a rock concert. And if Obama supporters are so uninformed - why do they consist of the media, the college educated and a growing number of elected officals on both sides of the aisle.

Blonde Who can't spell. lol

Alpha,

Molly Ivans was he sunshine of my week. I enjoyed her for years and she made a great conversation for my mother and I. Also an avid Ivans reader.

My Dad hated it. ;0)

unlikely-burrito

Good for you...MSNBC doesn't run the world...thank God.

Blondie:

Last I heard (and mind you - this was Oprah on Dr. Phil's show) - but I think Oprah fought those companies - refused to settle - and won. Dr. Phil was supposedly the one that encouraged her to keep fighting.

I wouldn't doubt if it was still in the appeals process though....

Alpha,

RE:KO,

I DID get quite a charge out of know that Gore is consulting with Obama bi weekly. I'm glad my favorite Elder Stateman is involved in the process as a Broker for the Party.

Towards the end of the earlier thread there were a number of highly critical comments about Colin Powell.

I knew him professionally in my last Air Force assignment and, upon occasion, met him socially. This description understates my contact with him.

In my opinion he is a marvelous human being.

I have no doubt that he was duped by the Bush 'team' into making his presentation before the Security Council; he would never trade his honor for anyone's personal political agenda.

He is the genuine article.

Patsi,

I just noticed the link you posted...thank you...I will start to read it tonight. My first thought is, why is it necessary to only hold him responsible? Why can't we hold all of these people responsible?

I would love to know how you happened upon this site...

Thanks Flatus,

I knew him too. Saw him in action at the White House and was too impressed for words. He was duped. He was one of the finest people I have ever served with. The most integral.

Good to meet you BTW

Alpha:

Don't you think the Clintonites ban on certain networks and efforts to only hear news from the Clinton-friendly stations - is kinda like the way Republicans only listen to Fox.

My apologies to those who identify themselves as Clintonites.

Sorry for the typos and spelling errors...I can't tell which!

Faux news had a segment on fainting at BHO's rallies...not a new thing in rallies for any candidate as it was pointed out.

When Kerry was here in Sept. 2004, it was hot and when we arrived at the stadium they were selling bottled water. Many peeps were fainting and the fireman were working the crowd. With all of the campaign money and Teresa Heinz Kerry's money, you would thing they would handout water for free! Not so...but the fireman did give us all some bottled water.

Flatus

It is difficult to judge great men by one moment of lying. I agree.

And Flatus and Sheila

It is sad thing great men can be duped.

With regards to Hillary Clinton and Countdown, I think Keith is a little pissed that this campaign is making Bill Clinton look bad. It seemed the only Democratic candidate that would go on his show with any regularity was John Edwards. I don't remember Obama making many appearances nor do I remeber Mrs. Clinton either.

Someone made an earlier point with regards to Bill Clinton being a racist. I never thought he was. I thought he was being condescending and that pissed me off. I think he talks down to people when he is angry.

Lastly, Cher makes a valid point...but then I think back to Band of Brothers where you have average men, thrust into unimaginable chaos. Some fail from fear...others overcome it and are able to do great things. We can never know what they are capable of until that first moment under fire. It cheapens the process to declare that she can't because she is a woman or that he can't because he isn't experienced.

Likewise, Sheila!

Blondewino,

If I remember right. Powell vetted the onformation and argued the point and was convinced by George Tenet.

He found out it was not true after he had spoken at the UN.

Who knew?

Evian bottled water is a Heinz product?

http://www.heinz.com/Seal.aspx

21 Super Delegates in Ohio.
2 are committed for Clinton.
1 is committed for Obama.

18 are up for grabs.

Patsi,

Thanks again or the link...I forwarded it some teachers I know...they will vote for Hillary just because of her position on No Child Left Behind...

I wonder why she isn't more vocal about that position.

Hi Sheila, how are you?

I am not going to get into whether of not, Colin Powell lied, promoted a falsehood, was duped, etc...I really do not know. I just know his promotion of the Bush/Cheney positon on Iraq allowed for the death of thousands of people.

Only Powell can determine whether or not he can get a good night's sleep.

Bear My FRiend!

Doing fine, Working hard in Palm beach from Hell and Blogging for my chosen Candidate. Obama of course!

How are you and whats up with your chosen field?

Wino

You are right of course and I an SURE Colin Powell cannot sleep at night because of this. I'm absolutely sure.

You know, Sheila...it keeps me awake sometimes at night, too. I really do feel the shame.

Rez....Thank God my computer doesn't "read" American Idol...er YouTube" -- you'll have to actually articulate. (What a concept.)

Sheila..sorry I do not read ran's map very well...are you in Palm Beach? I worked there in 1980's at the Braziian Court (Kennedy hangout). They had a most special wine list. I remember working on the island because in those days you had to register with the police department and get finger printed to work on the island.

Brazilian Court...typo.

Bear -- Re the Black agenda...I've been reading them for years, back when they were called the Black Commentary. I don't always agree...especially because they despised my guy Harold Ford. (I did agree with them that he was too conservative)...but Bear, they are not a bunch of wack jobs.

Blond unfortunately for my son,

Two of his childhood friends died in recent years. Little boys who played in my basement and spent the night playing "Special Forces" in my backyard. My son was shot, although not seriously,,,,thank goodness.

I lost two shipmates in Afganistan. One Very very dear friend inthe pentagon.

I was retired by then of course. But when you are in the service its a close club. Friends for life.

So, I have nightmares too. But in the same sense, I understand Powell want to believe that a PRESIDENT would never have let POWELL lie unknowingly to the world.

It must have been as sureal for him as for us. HORRIBLE nightmare

Blonde,

I live in Michigan. but I winter in Palm Beach. I work for a rich dude who's a snow bird.

Blonde wino ----------------------

From World Net Daily (I know, don't need to tell me.)

Swooning supporters fainting for Obama

"And, in apparent similarity to the religious enthusiasm of that bygone era, some of those coming to hear the Democrat presidential candidate "preach" his message are fainting as he speaks.

The similarity between the events and the emotive opportunity it offers the candidate has some on the web questioning whether the campaign is employing shills or whether the phenomenon is evidence of fanaticism and cause for concern.

Radio host Michael Medved yesterday said he concluded, after viewing several videos, the fainting episodes were staged. He noted the faint always occurred near the stage, Obama remained calm and used the same words in each of the occurrences and the person who collapsed was always a woman."

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56559

So, Sheila, you know Palm Beach? I still have friends who work there.

Well Sheila,

I'm surviving...the mortgage industry has been challenging. I am trying to educate realtors and builders on the best programs to help clear out their inventory. I am also working with buyers to get more realistic expectations when it comes to managing their credit and finding the right house.

Isn't worldnet daily the group that said Hillary Clinton had an affair with an alien...from outer space?

I find it hard to believe a man as smart as Powell didn't know he was lying. I remember clearly watching that dog and pony show with the long range fuzzy video of trucks pulling something in a desert and it was identified as tubes for bombs or something, and it was all bogus.
I know men who had direct contact with Powell in Vietnam. Powell was a shrewd military man who was best at knowing when to move and when to dig in, he understood the Xs and Os of warfare and the enlisted men more than respected him, they LOVED him . They trusted ad obeyed him and he was NOT the kind to devalue human life.
Why he agreed to the UN presentation, I'll never know, but somebody got to him.

You know bear? My friend, the second or third best REMAX realtor in the state is trying to sell off her business. I think she's getting out before the losses start...unless they are and she's not saying.

Wino, I know Palm Beach very well indeed!

I know a lot of peeps faint at rallies...it is the presumption that they only occur at BHO rallies. And I still do not think he will heal the party...it has to be someone who is not tied to the BHO or HRC campaign. Maybe Al Gore...but my solar plexis is waiting for the dem hand to pull this all together for us in August.. AND I hope they bring a ton of bottled water or wine, for that matter.

Before I forget again...thanks for that link Jamie...I have it bookmarked...I'm expecting some "issues" when a restraining order gets served so it's a great resource to have...

Please dont quote Michael Medved.. it does no good..

Or better yet, maybe the Mennonites can cater the whole convention in Denver.

Sheila...see we really have a lot in common!

DEX,

We'll know someday. But I'm telling you. he was acting on faith. he said so much as, he had a gut feeling something wasn't right, but with Tenet saying Trust Me over again,,,,,

well enough, We will know someday. Doesn't change the carnage though.

Sheila, if she is in Miami, I am sure the losses have hit...the property declines aren't as bad in the luxury markets, however, Jumbo financing got radically expensive and that has cause that market to shrivel up quickly...

Blonde!

LOL WE DO! I love it!

dexter...when the whole Iraq thing was happening...my bullshit-o-meter was going off like crazy...but, who am I to judge? I live in a very unpopulated area, not much peep pressure here.

I'm afraid its kind of worse. She's in Michigan....not a depression up there. Can we say "Soft Depression?"

There are foreclosures on my boss's street...the most exlusive street in the region....TWO of them...

Warren - "My apologies to those who identify themselves as Clintonites. "

Why bother?

Sheila...OMG...I was the day somelier and bartender at the Brazilian Court...interesting. I remeber after I left, one of the Kennedy cousins OD'ed at the hotel..very sad. I used to work private parties on island...older clientele. This was during the Reagan years.

The place was established by house politicians who used to house their mistresses at the hotel. Very lovely place.

history...http://www.frommers.com/destinations/palmbeach/H42252.html

Oh Shoot! You saw it girl....

Hey I was just a couple of hours away from taking the somalier test when I gave up. Had 75% of the test memorized.....I'm impressed.

One heck of an interesting line of work and to this day, I just love going into a store and just gazing.

Dexter:

What everyone knew at that time was that Bush was going to wage war on Iraq no matter what. I do not think Powell pushed this war - Iraq was pushed by Cheney and Rummy and resisted by the State Dept.

But talk radio whipped America into frenzy - and the debate turned from should we go into to Iraq and if so, how - to why the heck haven't we done this sooner! Bush/Cheney and whoever else was involved knew they could bend international law in the aftermath of 9/11.

Clinton cannot explain away that vote. But we're in Iraq now - and being an eternal optimist (and also a realist) - we are now ENGAGED in the Middle East peace process. And I think that can be a good thing. We are no longer a chearleader or a bully standing on the sidelines. I think there is now some genuine hope that at least a few steps can be made in the right direction over there . . . post GOP.

if my memory serves... Powell was the only voice of reason for a long time.. ppl were actually accusing him of being *gasp* liberal... they did a number on him...

Sheila

And I love drinking and cooking with wine. I also love visiting wine country anywhere! Old vine is always of special interest to me. Roots that are older than any of us peeps, so to speak.

What a great thought Warren,

given the right people and handled in right manner, it may well be still possible to obtain peace.....

little ole cynical me thinks it will be many years though.

Hopefully a miracle is on the horizon to prove me wrong and it will be swift.

Patsi -

"to each his own" requires articulation. You have an opinion about BC and the SC vote and I have mine.

the youtube url was an old Platters hit. Doesn't the url come up even without rendering the video? if not , my bad

Wino,

I'm with you. I have an endless facination with using wine to "Bridge" as in, using the same wine in the cooking process that you will be drinking, thereby enhancing the actual tasting experience.

I am also stupidly interested in "Botrytis....LOL Love the german whites.

Two people fainted at the HRC rally I attended last week.

I think it is common.

Has there been any news discussion about the independence of Kosovo? What is the eta for a conflict with the Russians

Also,

Does anyone have a youtube or other clip of the Temptations, "Ball of Confusion"?

BTW,

I AM a total Red Wine Freak.

BUT, oregon's evolution is a sensual experience. Its a recipe of 9 grapes grown on the property and the bottles are limited to what can be gown there.

So from season to season, it is slightly different but not labeled as a vintage.

Its the only white, I would never eat a meal with. Too thoughtful a wine....

Better stop boring everyone. ;0)

Sheila:

There is no need for a miracle. But I agree - it needs the right people. I think it will take plenty of work and we are going to need to implement and build on the ideas set forth by the bi-partisan Iraq Study Group - many of which just can't be done with Bush in charge.

But it is in all Middle Eastern Countries' interests to deal with the refugee crisis, to rebuild and stabilize Iraq. And while it may not be in the interests of the fat-cat leaders over there - it is in the people's interest to raise the standard of living.

The Bush Doctrine of sanctions - which impact the people at the bottom and increases their support for a leader we are trying to punish - needs to stop. But to do that - you need diplomacy sooner rather than later - because it is going to take time to work through the differences.

sheila...if they are bored...let them skip the post..it happens with most of my posts, anyway. I think the dems are the coolest peeps on the planet anyway. They will ignore us and jump to their topic of choice. And Craig has really drawn a good amount of people to his blog...I am worried that he is not getting the air time he deserves. He, like the rest of us, need to make a living.

Bear,

All I've seen today was NYTimes

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/19/world/europe/19kosovo.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Kosovo Is Recognized but Rebuked by Others

AND No. i've seen no Discussion anywhere. Campaign is only on.

michelle obama today in milwaukee

"for the first time since ive been an adult i am proud of this country"...................wheres the outrage at this statement???????????

This is a timely song considering the lyrics and the pictures someone set to the music...

If this baseline doesn't get you up moving...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=miZWYmxr8XE

Zumper,

That horse is so dead, it was the glue used in the local kindegarten last month...

Here's that Platters URL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXlNK4IpWcU

Same song...better video images

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tCNNka6on-I&feature=related

i know ......but if hillary said anything like that the blogs would be on fire ,.....the bias is sickening

Oops. Saw To Each His Own and immediately went for the song. Didn't realize that Rezdog had already put it up.

Wino,

craig's air time depends on the rise and fall of the political clime. he will get real busy again once the primaries are just about over.

Then if he is right and Clintons are nominated, he will spend a lot of time on air anylizing. If they don't, he will spend a lot of time on air anylising what they did wrong because he is the resident Clinton expert.

Then, Cahoona will move on to the next phaze and when the general comes up, he will not get any sleep!

Bear,

The recording isn't as good, but I love to watch them dance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy_aahkIdEI

zumper

I answered you in the last blog...but, obviously Mrs. MObama isn't as scrutinized as BWJC.

Here is my last post

Zumper

Thank you for posting that about Mrs. MObama. She has said many things that really startle me. Her comment about thinking long and hard about voting for HRC in November if she is the dem's candidate of choice...is the same type of off hand comments she makes and still is potrayed as the innocent. I think she wants the White House more than the mister.

Here she is well educated lawyer who is working hard for her husband to be elected...hey, she sounds like a young HRC??? Maybe she is suppressing her political desires...a Mrs. Obama for President 2016?

Zumper Hi and pleased to meet you!

Hey get involved in the wine, , Kosovo, music discussions. Take a break from the tenseness!

I can't help it...I still want to see Craig on cable tv. I can sleep better at night and I don't have those political night terrors.

blonde
i just got back from casino and ddint see your post.....thanks for your post...we seem to be a minority on the net

Blonde,

He's got enough UTUBE stuff, easy to find. I'm sure he would love you to see them. ;0)

I do not know about any of the other people here, but there is "something" that I think most women can see in MO, and it isn't that kind of something one usually likes.

Maybe it is just me.

good news in pakistan too.....

Blonde,

maybe Craig Utube stuff is an oasis in the desert for a time. They are all still pretty relevent.

If you want to keep an eye on Europe, go to the BBC Europe page

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/default.stm

Serbia has recalled their Ambassador from the U.S.

signing off have a good night every one

Jamie...there was another group that did Ball of Confusion...movie about high schoolers???

Anyone remember?

Burrito,

I think its still a matter of left wing taste again. I happen to really enjoy MO. Sorry....it an Obamanation thing ;0)

God Night Zumper and good to make your aquaintance~

Bear:

Since Clinton and McCain both refer openly to Putin as KGB - I would think any negotiations with Russia may start off on the wrong foot.

Michele Obama's spunk and intelligence reminds me of another wife ahead of her time....Hillary Clintons' Cookie and Tammy Wynette statement made me stand up and cheer.

But it sure made a lot of people mad. I believe Clinton secretly admires MO too. How can you not? Michelle would be another worthy opponent to run against.

Ah...Psychedelic Shack...Ball of Confusion. A good rendition.

http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=ball+of+confusion+remake+in+the+1990s&src=IE-SearchBox

So sorry for the typos...

Sheila

You know how much I admire your creative spelling, but just one small quibble that as a California girl, I can't let go past.

Hawaiian has fewer letters than the English alphabet, and Kahuna is spelled K A H U N A

:-)

I take that back - I think Hillary said Putin does not have a soul - McCain goes with the KGB slam. (I think I would prefer to be called KGB - but then again I'm a lawyer - no one thinks I have a soul anyways ; )

LOL Jamie,

Forgive me! You know I love you too.

But do you realize I've been spelling Cahoona for Craig since the beginning? LOL I guess I will have to continue.

he's got the bone brakage issue and I have the mispelling issue. Just another day on Crawfordslist!

It's not surprising that the Texas poll is tightening.
Team Hillary has been working in overdrive to assuage the Hispanic leaders who are angered by the "sacrificing" of Patti Solis Doyle.
This Hillary campaign is really a tragedy in the Greek definition.

"I've been spelling Cahoona for Craig "

Yes, dear. I KNOW ... lol

I really think that people need to kept their holier then thou attitudes out of other people private sex lives and relationships.

How about being gay, since there is no "marriage" there is no cheating? Is that how it works?

Give me a break.

Oh Oh! Good Night Warren!

Hi Vivian...first time I have seen you post...I don't agree with you, but please keep posting. Like I said, stomp grapes not animals.

Anthrax in High School Musical 2

Good night Sheila (are you really a nun - I went to Catholic school...).

Good Night Trailmixers and fellow muppets.

Nite all... I'm sleep-typing..which explains a lot of things..

Bear, I'm surprised you want to continue our discussion on the last thread of your unbelievably obnoxious and neanderthal comments concerning women, but I'm pleased to oblige.

What you said was this: "Were women treated badly in this country? Yes. Why did it happen? Because women just sat there and took it."

So there it sits, Bear, like a big stinky turd. Either own up to it or retract it, but don't start telling anecdotes about what a fine defender of women you are. Not with that attitude. I asked you to substitute African American for women in your statement so you could try to understand just how obnoxious and untrue it is, but you have refused to address that.

And I do not see irony in the fact that with your beliefs about women, you say that you volunteer at a battered women's shelter. What I see is tragedy; and I ask you again, do you share your belief with these women that the abuse they suffer is really their fault? Are you now going to contend that you also volunteer at a rape crisis center although you really believe the victims there also brought it on themselves with all those tight jeans, short skirts and low-cut dresses they wear?

Your statement is so unbelievably bigoted that, although I consider Obama to be quite sexist, I would not impute your beliefs to him. I do wonder, though, everytime I read something objectionable like this from one of his devoted followers, do you really think you are doing anything but harming his campaign -- maybe not in the primary, but if he gets the nomination, certainly in the general election when he will need women's votes.

Just read some of the tasteless comments posted here. When I finish this message..another 20 bucks to hillaryclinton.com.. This is getting expensive, but it is worth it.

TX NEWS: Hillary & Obama have opened offices in Dallas. They're coming here sometime.

Believe me it was overshadowed here by the JFK hidden in the vault documents.

tt

Marcy,

I am surprised you wish to escalate this again.

Women have suffered economically and politically at the hands of men in this country and in other parts of the world. I don't say women are totally responsible for it. I do say that women have grown to accept much of it, and for that I do blame them. I have seem many women accept that it is the word of God, or some other lame reasoning to accept subservient status.

Now Marcy, I know you wish to channel Morton Downey Jr. and get on your high horse, but I am offended that you think by making a statement about the Women's movement vs. the Civil Right movement you think I am condoning rape? That is offensive on many levels.

You want to substitute African Americans, fine. They were brought here forcibly. They were packed into boats like sardines. Forced to eat and sleep in their own vomit and feces to make a boat trip half way around the world. Then they were enslaved by a people of a different culture and language to do their bidding. White women were slave owners and traders. As soon as they became capable, African Americans started waging the fight for their freedom. This started at least 150 years before women mobilized for the same fight.

You call me a bigot yet I am not the person clouded with hate and anger and who is unable to take a step back and try to understand the question or argument being posed...

DON'T YOU EVER INFER THAT I CONDONE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN...OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. I don't care if a woman is parading around naked in front of 1000 sailor who spent the last year at sea. It gives no person any rights to sexually or in any other way to lay a hand on them without consent.

You sound very much like a women who was working a fishing shack at the Philadelphia pier. In 1984, they asked who she would vote for president and why...she said "I will vote for Ronnie because I love the china and curtains that Nancy picked out."

She chose the leader of the free world because of a set of dishes and pieces of cloth, items she would never get a chance to see in her life...

I would suggest you shift your anger towards your candidate who ran a poor campaign.

She thought women would turn out in overwhelming numbers for her...they haven't

She thought she could still do well in the black community...nope.

She has lost the younger voters that she figured would be inspired by the first realistic woman candidate for president.

She thought she would be wrapped up Feb. 5th...

How could you not see the warning signs from HRC's reelection campaign in 2006? She spent $60 Million against some no name to get 70% of the vote...She didn't need to spend more than $10 Million for the same result.

The buzz now in that campaign is the fact that she hired too many loyalists to run the campaign, forgoing competence...where have we heard that before?

Tiptoe,

Obama will be at Reunion Arena in Dallas on Wednesday.

Alice Cooper was on with Craig Ferguson . He said he concluded a 70-city tour in Moscow.
He said it's wild, a real crazy town...he said "it's Vegas!"

Who'd a thunk it?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
We got Bill on Sunday. He spoke in Toledo. He said "you can decide this election on March 4th!"
Yep, the world is in my hands! I've been waiting for this all my life.
Did any of yas see the doofus with the Packers Favre jersey and the giant cheesehead hat on schmoozing for a LONG time at a Green Bay rally for HRC? She was way too patient with him and his pattering-on about the lovely Chelsea and how he needed a picture with Hillary.

No matter who wins ...this song would be a great victory song if it wasn't so full of hate and angst.
At any rate, it's right up there in the greatest songs of all time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=manxPVTLth8

Es verdad.

Anuncia Fidel Castro que no aspirará ni aceptará reelección

La Habana, 19 feb (PL) El presidente Fidel Castro anunció que no aspirará ni aceptará el cargo de Presidente del Consejo de Estado y Comandante en Jefe en la sesión del Parlamento cubano, prevista para el próximo 24 de febrero.

"No me despido de ustedes. Deseo solo combatir como un soldado de las ideas. Seguiré escribiendo bajo el título “Reflexiones del compañero Fidel” . Será un arma más del arsenal con la cual se podrá contar. Tal vez mi voz se escuche. Seré cuidadoso", subraya el líder de la Revolución Cubana en un mensaje divulgado hoy.

NEW THREAD

after reading all the posts about borrowing slogans and plaigirism, i ask myself how many politicians in recent memory write their own speeches? what difference does it make? i am unaware that there is either an implicit or explicit assertion that every time a politician opens her or his mouth that words are "original." are we that easily deflected by who said what first rather than focusing on the overall message?

To Taylor Marsh: I'm unsure when Hillary became the owner of such original ideas as eliminating tax cuts for the rich, rewarding companies that put jobs back in America and penalizing those that dont, and other such novel ideas.

This arrogance that every idea of hers is original, is ridiculous. I've also heard that Obama "stole" her health care plan. Even though he announced his plan before she announced hers.

All of their policies are quite similar, except Hillary seems to like the ideas of cluster bombs on civilians (and has her vote to prove it) and has the same attitude toward diplomacy that George W. Bush has. But what does that matter if you can't persuade the American people to get behind you on policies? How are you going to implement anything without some kind of working majority?

Hillary, for all her talents and good intentions, does not have the skills or gifts to get anything through Congress.