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I only contribution to the Blog Today.

A Horsey Cartoon!

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/horsey/viewbydate.asp?id=1720

Good morning Alpha,

Have a great day of discussion. I'm back in the sadle here in Palm Beach From Hell. 3 more weeks of cook, cook, cook, cook, cook,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I cook, therefore I eat.

Are we doing anything special for leap day tomorrow?

Most interesting article so far this morning.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080228/lf_nm_life/china_population_dc

Have a good day.

Just a little warning to international travelers:

Rome, 27 Feb. (AKI) - Scratching your genitals in public in Italy can land you in trouble if you're caught.

According to a report on the Italian daily Corriere della Sera, Italy's court of cassation, the nation's highest appeals court, has defined the 'act' as "contrary to public decorum and decency."

The court also said that the practice is considered a crime even if the gesture is done to "repel evil" or bad luck.

It is a superstition among Italian men to "grab" their genitals to ward off bad luck, such as when a hearse passes by or when disaster strikes.

- Good Morning America actually did a piece to see if there's indeed media bias against Clinton. The 'reporter' managed to work in the Tina Fey SNL bitch skit in a way that he basically called her a bitch, and one of the people being interviewed by Sawyer about the bias was Arianna Huffington.......'cause the Huffington Post hasn't shown the least slant in this campaing, and the editor of course never appears on MSNBC as an Obama supporter - it was laughable.

Sean Wilentz on Obama Playing the Race

Wilentz and Tucker Carlson video ( please watch this)

http://www.taylormarsh.com/

Patsi, I guess that ends the chances for Turin and Rome of ever getting a pro baseball team.

Sturgeone: "I cook, therefore I eat."

There was a letter that was mentioned in Rombauer's Joy of Cooking that went something like, "My wife is too old to cook, and I'm too old to do anything else."

Wow! Paul, Nadar & Skinny D can't even get any ink on a blog devoted to them today.

I'll say this about Skinny D -- he really is in a fight. My ex-boss in Cleveland is a good friend of Dennis's and is very worried.

And last thread we talked about "descriptions" of candidates through language....here's from the NY TImes today:

To the Editor:

Re “Begrudging His Bedazzling,” by Maureen Dowd (column, Feb. 27):

Ms. Dowd says Hillary Rodham Clinton is lame for accusing journalists of treating her campaign differently than they treat Barack Obama’s, and applauds the “open-mindedness of the press” in its treatment of Senator Clinton.

Here are the words she uses in association with Senator Clinton: “desperate,” “primal scream,” “clanging,” “churlish,” “discombobulated,” “gloomy,” “flipping,” “begrudging,” “whining,” “experience,” “pea green with envy,” “Sybil,” “cascading,” “dizzying,” “unsettling,” “struggling,” “tartly,” “peevishly,” “pointlessly,” “sarcasm.”

And here are the words she uses for Senator Obama: “golden child,” “sunny,” “consistency,” “bedazzling,” “confidence,” “excitement,” “exceptionally easy in his skin.”

If Ms. Dowd wants to make the point that she doesn’t like Senator Clinton, then she’s made it. If she wants to make the point that the press treats Mrs. Clinton fairly, contrary to what the senator may believe, then this column, alas, has made Senator Clinton’s point.

Donna Lawlor
Brooklyn, Feb. 27, 2008

Dowd

She's there to sell newspapers and for no other reason.

Obama's Nation of Islam Staffers

"Responding to criticism, Barack Obama declared his strong opposition to Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan.

Obama also went on to condemn his Church's award to Farrakhan and his minister's tight relationship with him.

But a former Obama insider says that Obama's sudden aversion to NOI and Farrakhan is belied by the fact that Obama employed and continues to employ several Farrakhan acolytes in high positions on his Illinois and U.S. Senate campaign and office staffs. I have verified that this person--who agreed to talk on the condition of anonymity--held a key position in the Obama campaign. The insider was so close to Senator Obama that they frequently personally discussed and exchanged direct e-mail messages on campaign and policy matters. This person is not connected with the Clintons and is not a disgruntled employee."

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/01/obamas_nation_o.html

Morning all.

Patsi: home and hearth safe? Plumber did a credible job?

I am glad Bloomberg has ruled out a run. On the top of the ticket. Have to read the article now...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election,_1968

Posted by: jamie | February 27, 2008 9:12 PM
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Jamie

I didn't vote, in the '68 election...but I gotta tell ya--this map has truly lifted my spirit today!! Thank you!!

Gordo, do you reckon he'll want to meet with Minister Farrakhan's people, after the convention, to discuss what reject means? It might be done after he meets with Sen McCain's people about accepting public funding.

Patsi,

Everytime Ms. Dowd projectile vomits those words, it is the cumulative product of her years of sucking up to G.W.H. Bush... several times weekly in the NYT of the 80's and early 90's.

It is fair when Ms. Dowd goes all ad hominem to remind her readers of her huge character flaw -- she adores major, famous addicts as lovers.

And even adorates them long after they have left her and gone on to further their habits -- drugs with the overrated Aaron Sorkin and sex with the actually accomplished nice Michael Douglas. (Ever wonder why his best performance of the last ten years was in Wonder Boys?)

There's a lot to be said about someone who pursues addicts as lovers. In fact... there is a most amazing book about her own experience by Marion Winik (I think that's the spelling) which made me cry a lot.

But Dowd never makes me cry. She makes me stop reading her.

I am always in shock over how the paper which was home to the incomparable Russell Baker allows Dowd to believe she is a satirist when all Dowd ever could be was a self-caricature... whether she was a feature writer or a columnist.

Bully for Monica Lewinsky for talking Dowd down to her face in public.

9/11: I was shocked when the NYTimes gave Bill Kristol a column recently, but it became more understandable in the wake of that bizarre McCain front page story. (As in: maybe there is no good reason and some of the senior editorial leadership crew exhibits poor judgment.)

MoDowd: I skip her columns a lot, because they are too pop culture, but she nailed GWB's flaws early, as reading "Bushworld" (collection of her columns) showed. She does show some insight, sometimes just a sentence or two per column.

McCaina,

Big John answered my request yesterday:

"And my friends, if we left, they (al-Qaida) wouldn't be establishing a base," McCain said Wednesday. "They'd be taking a country, and I'm not going to allow that to happen, my friends. I will not surrender. I will not surrender to al-Qaida."

The various Shi'a armies and militias (and there are more than the Mahdi and Badr forces -- lots more including the Iranians) are opposed to AQ on a lot more grounds than Sunni-Shi'a bloodlust.

They regard AQ as violating the Koran endlessly.

At the moment there is a good deal of discontent over Al-Sadr's extension of the ceasefire. There are several provocative causes including the clumsy attempts to restore the Baathist party.

Al-Sadr knows this and is playing it adroitly.

McCain is better informed than this. He was better informed than he made himself appear to be during his jolly jaunt through that Baghdad market.

But Bret McCainverick just cheats at cards. That's been his only hand since he got caught with Keating.

This deck is a lot more loaded. And if what he expressed is the policy he's going to follow...

Enjoy the blood, the waste of treasure and the destruction --

And the rise to governing power of Al-Sadr.

I

"home and hearth safe? Plumber did a credible job?"

Plumber was great! A big union guy -- told me some management horror stories.

My home and heart is okay but disturbing news from a nearby country here in TN. A senior boy raped a freshman girl on a school bus and NOT ONE student tried to step in and stop it.

It reminds me of a case some years back when a girl was attacked in an apartment parking lot, and an older woman crippled with MS jumped on the man and started beating him with her metal crutches. She saved the girl....and became a personal hero to me. The reporter asked the woman with MS if, given her age and health, she hadn't been afraid for her own safety. She said no, all she thought about was that a young girl was being assaulted.

dog's eye,

Pinch Sulzberger is a teeny fruitcake. Lots of Times shareholders and many Times workers try to get rid of him -- but they are stuck with him.

There's a lot of crap about him internally at the Times.

There's even more of it among those shareholders.

But they can't get rid of him. And he is why they couldn't get rid of Judy Miller and a lot of other trash until it's too late.

Almost all of Pinch's very personal promotions to the Op-Ed page have caused aerobic eyerolling. (Dowd and Kristol included. He was forced into hiring Bob Herbert. And John Tierney was made to step down to make room for Pinch's childhood pal Billy Boy.)

Pinch has made the Times more of a financial nightmare than it ever should have been... both in the paper itself and in its outside investments and acquisitions.

And everytime he goes out and speaks to a Jewish group, he represents himself as a Jew.... when he is a privately converted Epinchcapalian.

There are plenty of books about how multigenerational businesses implode and fail.

Pinch will be on the cover of the next big 'un.

Re the school bus assault: very disturbing. Am never sure how a group of ppl decides not to get involved; usually it just takes one or two souls who can empathize with victim and/or believe they can stop the assault. But that individual has to step forward and not wait for another to do so. Wonder what the group dynamics were here.

WaPost column on this topic a few years back; conclusion that a lot of our kids are not taught problem-solving or that they can effect a difference. Shall hunt for it now.

I have a side bet with a friend who knows Bloomberg: the subject was exactly why, in real terms, Bloomberg would decline to run.

My bet? Once he found out the Secret Service would in no way allow to pilot or even fly on his own helicopters while he was in office, he'd quit.

He loves those things very, very, very dearly and he is a most accomplished pilot.

Maybe we'll find out if that was a factor.

Simple Questions for Senator Obama

"Not complicated. No nuance. Very straightforward. Is there any member of your staff–presidential campaign or senatorial office (including district staff)–who is a member of the Nation of Islam? If no, then never mind. We will condemn Debbie Schlussel for spreading a vicious unfounded rumor. But if the answer is yes, then you have a problem."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/27/simple-questions-for-senator-obama/

"allows Dowd to believe she is a satirist when all Dowd ever could be was a self-caricature..."

No kidding, 9/11!

And dog's eye -- I too shook my head over Bill Kristol.

Forget about higher taxes, partial birth abortions, same sex marriage, class warfare, universal health care, energy, economics, the only thing you need to know about Obama is summed up in this one passage taken from the Feb. 21, 2008 Presidential debate.

'if we think that meeting with the president is a privilege that has to be earned, I think that reinforces the sense that we stand above the rest of the world at this point in time.'

If anyone look 5 minutes you would quickly learn this sort of ideology has been part of Obama's life since he was teenager in high school. Let there be no doubt Obama is suggesting in this one brief sentence that the United States of America is no better than the likes of Iran, North Korea, China, Russia, Cuba, or a number of any other countries where civil rights are nonresistant, where you can be put to death for your sexual preference, where you are picked-up and whisked away for speaking out against the government, where everyone lives equally miserable lives except for those who control the power. We should not forget it is the USA that has helped advance more countries than any other country on the face of the earth, it is the USA using our nation's blood and treasure that has help free more people than any other country in history, it is the USA that has come to the aid of all countries, even our enemies, in times of crisis, it is the USA that people see as the land of freedom and will try to get here at all cost, who is trying to immigrate to Iran, North Korea, Russia etc, it is the USA where an idea and hard work can lead you to untold wealth, it is the USA that has the very best medical care procedures, it is the USA where you can own a home, buy a car, practice your religion , it is the USA that is still consider the breadbasket of the world, and it is the USA where a boy from a bi-racial family, a product of a broken marriage can go onto running for and may even become President of the United States. So yes Senator Obama meeting with the President of the United States is a privilege, and yes we Americans do stand above the rest of the world. We have earned that privilege and we certainly have earned that respect.

People are so enamored over the Obama mystique they have overlooked the meaning contained in his message.

"I think the United States must be humble and must be proud and confident of our values, but humble in how we treat nations that are figuring out how to chart their own course."

Humble (according to Charlotte the Spider) means close to the earth.

We all know whose words those were, don't we?

Fry: good morning.

And I find these kind of screeds not worth further reading: "the only thing you need to know about _____ is summed up in this one passage taken from _____________ ..."

There's never one "only thing" you need to know about anybody.

Where did that come from?

AP Should like today's Savage Chickens

http://www.savagechickens.com/blog/2008/02/paranoia.html

Fry- you did not add the final piece of Obama's quote

"and I think that it's important for us, in undoing the damage that has been done over the last seven years, for the president to be willing to take that extra step. That's the kind of step that I would like to take as president of the United States."

His point was, this administration, this president, has been responsible for the plummeting of the US's image abroad. Obama would do what he thinks it takes to work on the fragile international relationships.

By the way, Clinton would do this as well. Improving our international relationships abroad is extremely important to me, and the fact that Bill could have done this job was one of the main reasons I would have welcomed a Hillary Clinton presidency.

I do not see John McCain's strength being international diplomacy.

Lush

You do realize that the 68 map I put up was when Blue was used for Republicans and it is the description of the Nixon Win agains Hubert Humphrey.

dog's eye,

I am not enamored of anyone's mystique (including Anna Netrebko and that one's a personal thing) but I am prepared to vote for Senator Obama.

Some of it is a vote against either alternative. Some of it is a vote for him.

I'd feel the same way about voting for former Senator Edwards and even Senator Clinton.

There's always a proportion of what people have to learn and what they have to unlearn. My best guess about him is that he likes learning. My biggest concern is how much and how deeply he is willing to unlearn... and to whom he will choose to listen.

There are voices from his past which come from their own enclave... which have succeeded on their own turf and in their own world... but which would be at best questionable in big world outside of Sweet Home Chicago.

He has voices from the general past in his year like Brezinski's... old trilateralist who he was and apparently still is.

I'm not caught up in the rhetoric vs. reality trope or over silly charges of plagiarism.

I am not sure... and I'd like to know from who is sure... about Obama's stature/skills as a listener. Except for the one thing about him that is entirely unlike JFK and utterly like WJC: many times people report than when he is in the middle of a discussion, analytical or heated, all sides walk out feeling he's in agreement with them.

FDR had that, too.

Some of the posts on here make me believe more and more there are some who are so far removed from the rest of the world and even what those in other countries might want. If some in this group are a sampling of what the rest of this country represents, there is no hope for world peace anywhere in the world. If the US can’t come together and stop disagreeing about everything, with one segment wanting their way regardless, we are a lost nation. Yes, I would think that everyone everywhere wants “peace” but that may be a relative comment. If we could ask some in Iraq right now what they would have preferred before the invasion, wonder how many would answer that they like it the way it is now as opposed to before.

It would seem this is a “secret, insider society” blog where only some can have their posts appear to the public. Some have used obscenities, something I have not done, yet last night I posted about Michael Bloomberg’s concern that no votes were counted in many segments of NY for Obama. I was told it would be reviewed, and yet it has not appeared. I have copies of “everything” I post and can assure you that nothing was said that was derogatory to anyone. I merely stated what I had read at three separate, reputable news sites and “I am reviewed for content”.

Happy blogging people. Hope you solve the problems of the world.

GORDO,

While you readjust your tin foil helmet, I demand that you and all the like minded yuppie white kids who decry the Nation of Islam, immediately turn in all of your Public Enemy CD's because Chuck D declares that "Farrakhan is a prophet I think you ought to listen to", you stop your adulation for Muhammed Ali because he didn't become a "traitor" for refusing to go to Vietnam because of the Nation. Hell, if I ever find out your laughed at a Dave Chappelle skit, like the "Niggar" family, I will go Jay and Silent Bob to track you down and kick your ass...

Every candidate for President has scumbags that are supporting them. We got a glimpse of McCain's this week and while that bogus apology swayed this fellating press cabal, it just proved he totally condoned it because he lacked the courage to denounce in front of a crowd.

Kathy, I agree with your last post as well...

9/11

Just "one" question. Do you have one of those instant memories or do you just memorize who parts of Bush family speeches for the fun of it all? :-)

Make that whole parts.

I seem to have heard a who

Karolenna

Did your post have links in it? If there were more than three, it goes into a holding bin for review as a protection against spamming. There can be no more than two links in any one post.

I don't know if there is any limitation on links or possible copyright violations , but you might check Congressional Quarterly guidelines.

Nothing gets held to prevent your views from appearing on this blog.

" If the US can’t come together and stop disagreeing about everything, with one segment wanting their way regardless, we are a lost nation."

Please spare me your tears for America, Karo. What YOU mean is "If the US can’t come together and start agreeing with my candidate." Sorry, kiddo, that's what makes a horserace.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/whalen/2008/02/obama-and-the-billionaire.html

Perhaps people might want to read articles posted right here at CQ. Any explanation why a broke Rezko would get involved in a plot of land with Obama? And Rezko's money source? Also Rezko in 2002 gave money to another Obama buddy, Khadili. This plus Gordo's link is exactly why Nader said that prior to running, Obama was not the strong supporter for Israel he makes himself out to be now. Hillary questioning this is sleazy politics, yes? LOL.

Obama is an honest and straight forward person? Funniest moment from yesterday? CNN faced with hard evidence to the contrary, claiming they are not soft on Obama. Well let's see them follow up the many Obama stories including advisors, Powers, Malley, Zbig including the ones mentioned here.

Not a chance until Hillary is downed. Then the McCain camp will bring them up.

8'(

ohhhhhhhh Jamie...I am all depressed again 8'(

I was obviously looking at it backwards(I really need to pay more attention), thinking Nixon won with fewer states...still believing HRC is going to win(with fewer states)

(does that make sense?)

Karolenna, your post had 3 or more links and got caught in the spam filter. I have freed it now.

And you are quoting Debbie Schlussel? To return to a Monty Python reference, she is to the facts what Brave Sir Robin is to valor...

She is a bitter right wing version of Maureen Dowd. Say what you will about Malkin, Coultergeist and Ingraham, but they for the most part avoid the ugly stick, at least as far as looks go. Your girlfriend Debbie is ugly inside and out. You ever wonder why she is a guest only on the Howard Stern show?

I am so sick of this Nation of Islam crap. Just for shits and giggles, I wear a bow tie just to see how long it will take for the first NOI question to come. Among friends it takes less then five minutes. In the general public, it takes less time. As a plus, people get out of your way...lol

Yes, the NOI doesn't like Jews. How many Christian groups are equally as hateful about Catholics, Jews, Gays? If you stripped away the overtly hateful language in an NOI sermon and did the same for some of the Right wing churches, I don't think you would hear much difference?

Too bad Coulter wasn't in the NOI when she talked about perfecting the Jews...If Louis had said the same thing, people would have beat him over the head with his colostomy bag.

Nothing annoys me more than when people like you show no consistency. Heretofore GORDO, you get a nickname...

Tweety- Chris Matthews
Plunger- Rudy Guiliani
GORDO- BILL'O 2 the dipshit boogaloo

Excuse the language...Craig, you should provide a paypal for the swear jar...lol

Viva La Dunkin Donuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bear,
I realize now why you can't be accused of wearing a tin foil helmet. With your head lodged so far up your A,:how could you put one on? Go ahead and keep comparing apples with road apples. It provides the rational with a good laugh, like putting three black men you mention in the same camp.

Keep it up as CQ's almost top humorist. I thnk we can "bear" it.

Bear --------------------------------

"There are certain groups and individuals that should not be allowed anywhere near an office of public trust like the Presidency. Nazis, KKK, David Duke, and the Nation of Islam. This is not about being anti-black. If the individuals in question were members of CORE or the NAACP no problem. Those groups push for equality. They don’t preach a form of racism and hate. It is up to Senator Obama to be very clear and precise–no member of his staff will belong to or associate with any organization that preaches hatred and racial division."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/

If McCain starts to beat up hard on Obama, won't he come out ahead if he does the whole MLK or Gandhi turn the other cheek while making pointed rebuttals?

If McCain proves to some that Obama is as dirty as he is, doesn't he then make this more of a generational vote which I think he loses?

" Just for shits and giggles, I wear a bow tie just to see how long it will take for the first NOI question to come."

I must be missing something, Bear. You keep on and on about bow ties. The only bow tie I've seen recently was a particularly ugly oversized one worn by a congressman on c-span.

mornin' all,

Patsi, Farrukhan used to wear a skinny little bowtie.

Exactly Gordo,
And the advisors Obama selects is fair game as well as the sources of his money before his campaign for President. He rose to notice as a Lieberman mentor spouting the Kerry line in 2003-2004. Malley, Powers and others represent a sharp contrast to Obama's debate claims. His pastor, his advisors, his past policy declarations are all fair game, no matter how much the left wants to cry foul and bring in Coulter. What a crock. Hell, Obama can't even remember he once advocating nuking Iran. He was too busy running for President to vote on sanctions or even give up his head of the Senate Foreign Relations Sub Committee on Eastern Europe/NATO, which given the seriousness of daily reports for the last two years is a critical matter he hasn't held a single meeting over. Didn't stop him from issuing policy positions on NATO and Afghanistan. It's not about tin foil Bear, it's about telfon and that will come off sooner or later.

When even Putin and Sarkozy consider new sanctions on Iran and Obama doesn't, a bell should go off, unless of course one's head is really that far up ones.....

Perhaps it is fear of a black planet...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NoLkaGcpJFA

With regards to the KKK, we have had former members of the Klan serve on the US Supreme Court, in Congress and in countless state houses and governorships across the south.

David Duke was a prominent Republican who took more than a third of the vote in a statewide race in Louisiana.

Nazis suck. I don't know of any who have gained prominence in the US.

We can easily find pictures of the lynchings and other killings from the KKK and Nazis...outside of the 60 Minutes story this past weekend, I can't find cases of the NOI lynching, beating and raping people because of their race.

I think it's hilarious that white people who were very slow to decry the actions of the Klan and who can be subliminally swayed by race baiting during campaigns can get brown shorted in a hurry when a black group, wrongly mirrors their tactics.

If someone had the time, they could do a montage of Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson clips and compare them to Louis X and the only difference would be complexion and wardrobe.

To me that is a typical lack of consistency. Maybe that's why Dick Cheney thought apartheid was a good thing in South Africa...

Kathy,

No I didn't forget to add anything. Obama is a one world thinker, where everyone is equal, everyone shares in the pie, even those who have not contributed. Equal distributions for all. That section you added, Obama would have you believe his comments where targeted only at Bush, that just isn't so. Obama would like to change the last 20 to 30 years of US policy. When the POTUS sits down with the leader of rouge government like Iran, North Korea, etc. you are providing those government a photo op that will be seen around the world, this grants them credibility, the POTUS is sitting down with murders and thugs and there for it is OK. Such a photo would take all the hope for change away from a people living under a ruthless government. You don't give rouge government credibility until they changed, until they have demonstrated they have earned that privilege.

Mika's supercilious shilling for Obama should be taken off the air. She is clearly desperate for her nut case father to be relevant again. What the hell is Obama doing with that man?

I could give a damn about Louis Farrakhan. What about Zbigniew Brzezinski??? Does this not concern anyone?

Bear,
The point of media used to be vetting "pointed rebuttals". If McCain proves the claims against Obama are valid, it will become a generational thing McCain loses? Now that's both brilliant and healthy.

I'm sure the Left will love Obama bombing the crap out of Iraq when they increase more than under our present containment. A nuke for Iran under Obama's watch will be the end of his adminsitration. More US troops in Afghanistan while many NATO countries don't even want to be in free-fire zones? Pakistani response to increased predator strikes killing innocents? Action on Darfur? Funding of missile defense? Consessions from Assad or Ahmadinejad? Supporting Hamas and Hizb'Allah has tension increases? Yes, a generational thing.

I guess we should just grin and bear it.

Patsi: Zbig Brz is not a "nut case father" and he is not irrelevant.

Why do you say that about Zbig? He's a centrist.

Patsi,

If you look at video from the 80's and 90's from when Louis X was in his heyday, he a majority of men in the NOI wore bow ties.

Why do they? I don't know. I do it because it takes added skill to properly tie a bow tie and I know it makes a statement that I'm willing to stand out in the crowd...

MaxTrue,

France and Russia will do anything they can to dilute Iranian sanctions because both countries are heavily invested in their nuclear program...just paying the same lip service McCain paid Cunningham

Morning peeps.

Bear

As horrid as I find some of the speeches of NOI one cannot deny some of the good they have done within the Black community.

Unfortunately they are the negative side of DuBois and Washington in the past and leaders such as Tavis Smiley in the present with their messages of self help, community action and mutual dependence.

It doesn't matter the group, there are always going to be people within it who probably should be denounced as haters and not reflective of the mission of the whole.

karolenna, if you had links to the 3 separate news sources, that is what stopped your posts - there is a 2 link limit. I see Craig freed it - it will appear at the spot it would have but for the spam filter. Review the posts here and you can't be serious about thinking this is an insider blog. That's simply not crdible considering the number and breadth of opinions that appear here - no matter how controversial, ill informed or simply stupid they may be.

Lush, cheer up. If Humphrey had won California, Ohio and Florida, he would have been president - which is why I keep saying that it's the big states the superdelegates will be concerned about - those that aren't worried about losing their own districts if they don't get on the Obama train, that is.

No one, I repeat no one will EVER prove I am in any way racist, so the idea racism is behind my questioning Obama is utter garbage.

Yes, Zbig, Powers, Malley, Khadili, the source of campaign money for Obama in Illionis, Obama's pastor, his staff people, his declarations etc are all fair game and very important. Obama is still the most unvetted candidate top dog in generations.

As far as the Jewish support (and they have always been big supporters of civil rights) will likely drift towards McCain once he pulls the curtain back. The last things the Jewish community wants is the characterization that only Lukidites question him or some present Obama advisors ANYWHERE near policy positions. By election time the Middle East is going to be a lot hotter than it already is.

Missed debate question; Obama wants to increase the 68% of foreign students making up graduate studies by cutting some defense spending. Hillary wants ot increase American enrollments with funds from other sources. Big difference that was never asked. Now where will those students come from and what programs will they be allowed to enter? Nuclear engineering?.....LOL

MaxTrue

That was really unnecessary. We are all trying to pull back from the internecine war going on here. You don't help with that sort of language. Hold to your position but please moderate. Bear is a respected and valued person here.

Max,

If Bush can't be blamed for 9/11 happening on his watch, how does the next president get blamed for Iran having a nuke?

Bush was supposed to be the tough guy and he's proven to be nothing more than a yapping chihuahua instead of a pitbull...

When I training to test for my black belt as a teenager, one of my tests was to fight multiple attackers at once. For 6 minutes I was in a ring and started with one opponent. Within 3 minutes I was facing 5 others. To manage the chaos you had to do the following:

1. Make sure no one got behind for a blind attack
2. Identify the person most likely to attack next and keep someone weaker than him between you to deflect the attack.
3. Keep moving.

There is nothing wrong with vacating a position so that you can reestablish yourself in a better spot to deliver your attack. When you just sit there an become an inert force, you make it to easy for the hits to come.

Vantage Point excellent, exciting movie

8) @ pogo

If Ms. Dowd wants to make the point that she doesn’t like Senator Clinton, then she’s made it. If she wants to make the point that the press treats Mrs. Clinton fairly, contrary to what the senator may believe, then this column, alas, has made Senator Clinton’s point.

Donna Lawlor
Brooklyn, Feb. 27, 2008

Posted by: Patsi | February 28, 2008 8:04 AM

This is so right on... It's the same in the blog. Those of us who criticize Obama get morally superior lectures on how we aren't upholding the "friendliness" and spirit of this site. When Obama's people attack us, it's because they were there first, or you have one asshole on the left and one on the right, and if you get flamed you yourself are responsible.

all I can say is F.O. and flame away sweethearts.

Webster Tarpley:Zbignew Brzienzki leading Obama campaign PT1

( Bear - you probably should not listen to this, you might explode.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfip0k2Oit8

Patsi

Though not as common anymore at one time, the bow tie was distinctive to the members of NOI when out in the community working.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/120000/images/_123554_copy_of_members_of_noi_arriving_at_lawrence_inquiry_(29-06-98)300.jpg.jpg

Wrong about France and Russian motives Bear. Where I to explain, I would be blasted for bandwidth.

Putin has an idea of what Iran is up to and see the fallout later on, as well as a possible strike.

France is very opposed to Iran these days for good reason. They are moving into the region on the Sunni side with a new base in the Gulf.

Your answer however didn't answer the observation about Obama's silence given his clear words to AIPAC. Let him declare sanctions don't work. Let him explain it means nothing to keep Quds in Iran instead of Lebanon, Caracas, Yemen, Darfur, Somalia, Iraq and Syria. What bullshit given his pandering answers in the last debate.

Feminist or not, I wrote to Miss Dowd and said she is acting like a total .. rhymes with HUNT. I am sure she doesn't read her negative reactions because if she did we'd never hear from her again, but someone at NYT takes the info down.

Patsi, Zbig was a huge asset in the 80s, but he's had a low profile in academia since then. I expect that with his intelligence, which is formidable, he knows we no longer live in a cold war world and has the ability to analyze foreign policy options. He was more hawkish than I liked and made some questionable decisions regarding the Chinas when he was Carter's National Security Advisor, but he doesn't trouble me - in fact, the involvement of folks like him may be one of the greatest saving graces of the Obama machine and will make me sleep better after voting for him in Nov. if Hillary doesn't pull off a minor miracle.

jamie,

Nah. I've got a neurotoxic brain. However, there is a special WTF cache there for moments like the one when Duhya spoke those words in 2000.

I had to look up the exact quote to confirm the context of the phrase.

" If the US can’t come together and stop disagreeing about everything, with one segment wanting their way regardless, we are a lost nation."

Please spare me your tears for America, Karo. What YOU mean is "If the US can’t come together and start agreeing with my candidate." Sorry, kiddo, that's what makes a horserace.

Posted by Patsi

That was my exact reaction, especially about "agreeing with my candidate", but Patsi, you're the professional writer and you said it better than me :-)

I think this election is the worst display of American democracy yet. The media bias, the "super" delegates, the caucuses, the open, and the non-open primaries, voting once or voting twice, voting early...Democrats do it this way, Republicans another way, from the outside it looks like one huge train wreck.

Debates that are merely stages for pundits to indulge their own egos. Debates that take on a game-show quality....now for the video round....it is just ridiculous...we should ave been given numbers to call to cast our votes...

Maxtrue in his/her own words at 10:04:

No one, I repeat no one will EVER prove I am in any way racist, so the idea racism is behind my questioning Obama is utter garbage.

... Missed debate question; Obama wants to increase the 68% of foreign students making up graduate studies by cutting some defense spending. Hillary wants ot increase American enrollments with funds from other sources. Big difference that was never asked. Now where will those students come from and what programs will they be allowed to enter? Nuclear engineering?.....LOL
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If not a racist, you are using their tricks. Citing foreign students and then raising the bogeyman: "oooh, we don't know from which countries and they're coming here to study nuclear engineering."

It is a great thing about the US that we have such fabulous universities and that foreign students want to come study here. Further, they often pay much more in tuition.

They study biomedical engineering, urban planning, history, all measure of academic disciplines.

And it is such great soft diplomacy to have them study here, interact with Americans and others here, and either take their knowledge back to their home countries or remain here and contribute to our wonderful nation.

So, Maxtrue, your point was????

ET, I imagine Mo thrives on negative comments. God knows, she has to generate tons of them.

9/11

"I had to look up the exact quote" Oh thank goodness. At least you gave me easy search terms so I could find it fast as well. :-)

dog's eye,

I think "Maxtrue" is the most incredibly apt nom de crap since Greg Brady made hisself "Johnny Bravo".

Bear, I''m not so sure that Max is using racist tricks as much as he's just using paranoid conservative screeed. Close the borders, hide under the bed. I'm not sure, but I think they teach calculus and physics pretty much everywhere - at McGill U., for instance - and last I checked, that was in Canada.

Lush, cheer up. If Humphrey had won California, Ohio and Florida, he would have been president - which is why I keep saying that it's the big states the superdelegates will be concerned about - those that aren't worried about losing their own districts if they don't get on the Obama train, that is.

Posted by: pogo | February 28, 2008 10:02 AM

I have always admired Hubert Humphrey. I was not old enough to vote in a national election until 1980, but I did read Humphrey's biography. He was a real and decent man. When he died, my sister and I stood outside the capitol building in St. Paul to pay respects. It was a horribly cold winter evening, and I remember that I had cheap vinyl shoes on, so my toes were absolutely numb. Walking by his casket, I felt sadness and a privilege to be there. I have not attempted to show up at a showing of any other politician.

I will just add that Muriel Humphrey did an admirable job carrying on for Hubert in the U.S. Senate. She did not run to keep the seat, and I was sorry because she would have done more great things, but I respected her decision to go back into private life and enjoy her remaining years.

ET, I imagine Mo thrives on negative comments. God knows, she has to generate tons of them.

Posted by: pogo | February 28, 2008 10:18 AM

Dayum, you mean, it sort of turns her on? I am sick now.

yup, Hubert Humphrey and Muriel Humphrey were great Americans, and did a lot of good with their lives.

I think this cartoon reflects some of the senitment on this board:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/215/gallery/28613-a28849-t3.html

And I must say, I am shocked at the way some of the "feminists" on this board treat Mika and Maureen Dowd. But who am I to judge...

Back to work peeps.

In fact, there are 40 programs listed for graduate studies in Phyics in Canada aloe, and there are a few in Europe.

http://programs.gradschools.com/europe/physics.html

MaxTrue, I will be the first to admit I know very little about USA's foreign policy in specifics. I do feel that most of the messes we find ourselves in now were the creation of our own country's meddling where we didn't belong. Who trained and provided weapons for Osama Bin Laden? Who has supported dictators around the world as long as our own economy was propped up? I'm just asking... My interest in politics has been more about equal rights, stop the redistribution of wealth from the lower/middle classes to the rich, workers rights.. et al..

I am just wondering where you stand politically? And are you a member of any political party?

Bear,
I understand your point exactly and I do not tow the Bush line. We must fight multiple attacks at the same moment and Bush is not a black belt. My problem is that neither is Obama. To thwart Iran we must hold some real line in Iraq (and to thwart Assad too). Obama doesn't consider that. To thwart Iran we must increase sanctions even if it is a step at a time given public unrest in Iran. To turn to Afghanistan, we need a much bigger commit from NATO. Targeted kills inside Pakistan now will make a bad situation worse, strikes to the degree they would thwart the Taliban and AQ on the border. We also need to take out people like Imad and send a clear message very bad guys are targets. We need to explain to Russia Kosovo is a done deal but offer to increase terrorism efforts WITH Russia askiing them for some roll back of NGO restrictions. It's a tough play, but with Europe growing more upset with Russia, we have more room than with Iran....LOL.

Abbas has just declared an AQ presence in Gaza. Now Obama wouldn't talk with AQ would he? He won't even remark on the Un's inability to disarm Hizb'Allah. So while I agree with your spin on BUsh, Obama isn't offering any real counter policy. Add to that his advisors and past declarations -you have a pandering mess. The irony is that if you read Hillary's floor statement on the resolution to approve force, you see a cogent path of how we could have avoided the mess we are in. That one vote (and denying her stated position) seems to be the entire objection to her otherwise stronger position. Do you support Odum's Grand Bargin with Iran? Sanctions? Leaving Iraq to AQ and Iran?

This election is showing that a large % of one race is voting within its own race and I think this election is going to leave a lot of damage behind.

It is a very difficult position for many people, and that is a shame.

McCaina:

"I think this election is the worst display of American democracy yet."

If Obama wins - I think it will be very symbolic to the rest of the world. A relative unknown - who starts a movement, transcends race and gets the PEOPLE involved and becomes the most powerful leader in the world - I think would go along way to in aiding our desire to spread Democracy in the world.

Anyways, really back to work this time...

Ok my friend is here, so I am gone.. tomorrow in The Netherlands for a comic book convention with my little italiano...

Meanwhile, Rhianna has NOTHING over Hillary Clinton...
It's time to get UNDER Barack Obama...

YEAH BABY!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOTAfGuLA-0

Warren,

"the "feminists" on this board treat Mika and Maureen Dowd."

The whole idea behind "feminism" is to be judged equally on your own merits, particularly when being measured against the experience and talents of a male of the species.

The two ladies mentioned deserve every brick brack thrown at them. They have acted as surrogate males to unfairly and visciously attack a competent and intelligent woman.

EUroTom,

Zbig trained and supported OBL under Carter. Actually in July of 1979 before the Russians invaded Afghanistan. Many credit Zbig for baiting the Soviets into Afghanistan. There is also a big Soros connection, but that is a different matter. OBL and his people along with General Zia of Pakistan, who Carter bribed, had no problem with torturing captured Soviet prisoners in violation of the Geneva Convention. That is the huge reason Obama distances himself form Zbig while retaining him as an advisors. Google links between Huntington (Zbig's buddy at Harvard), Zbig and Obama. The past connection is there. Google Malley and powers and you begin to get a picture far different than what Obama spouts on the trail. Hillary is afriad to bring this up for reasons we all can imagine. McCain will not hesitate and added to the Rezko associations, this will be a problem.

f Obama wins - I think it will be very symbolic to the rest of the world. A relative unknown - who starts a movement, transcends race and gets the PEOPLE involved and becomes the most powerful leader in the world - I think would go along way to in aiding our desire to spread Democracy in the world.

Posted by: warren | February 28, 2008 10:38 AM

I think he could be the next Mahatma Gandhi....

warren, wrt the cartoon - probably - wrt to the feminist comment - that's what i contend separates liberals from conservatives - liberals are willing to openly criticize their own when their own do and say stupid shit, conservatives may mutter under their breath but aren't so openly critical of their own no matter how stupid they may be. I suspect Fry and Ping may have a different viewpoint. ;-{)

Lordy, I never heard of Debbie Schlussel until today. But then I Googled her only to learn that Rush Limbaugh often reads her column, "Debbie Does Politics" on air.....ROFL!

Also, I don't see a huge difference between Obama and Hillary on the domestic front (Obama IS more liberal). My objection has always been his foreign policy stance and the style and oratory over substance line. I also have a natural adversion to the pundit bias well displayed towards Obama and the sexism evident everywhere.

Maxtrue,

I was not inferring in any way that you were racist. I am not sure what triggered that thought but I apologize nonetheless. I am not a fan of the Nation of Islam either. I am just annoyed that they are immediately labeled as radioactive, when I see little difference between them and other religious groups.

Perhaps my view is the result of me being a non practicing Catholic who just cringes at the hypocrisy with the church I was baptized into...I ask myself that question often.

I get annoyed when a certain sentiment, that is based more on fear than fact, becomes the narrative for a particular candidate...

Anyway, I'm off to work...

Before I forget, tonight, Obama is at the Fort Worth Convention Center...can't wait for that. Tomorrow Huckabee is at the Fort Worth Stockyards at 3PM. Tomorrow Hillary Clinton will be at the stockyards from 11-1.

John McCain's only local appearance is for a $1K plate fund raiser...funny how he is raising money while everyone else is doing free events.

Maureen Dowd : a petty female who has no skin in the game and hides behind her pen.

I like to see MD go face to face with Hillary, let her stand there in person and ridicule and be that disrespectful towards HRC and everything she is and has accomplished.

MD is an example of the worst in human nature, and she gets paid for it.

ET

"I think he could be the next Mahatma Gandhi...."

Please tell me your tongue is digging a very deep hole in your cheeck.

" do it because it takes added skill to properly tie a bow tie and I know it makes a statement that I'm willing to stand out in the crowd..."

Ha -- Bear, so I guess you don't do those clip-on ones....:)

McCain does free event too, the dinners are just smaller groups, they serve a different purpose. I like the smaller events, they are more interesting, more detailed, and less staged.

Sad to say - Buddy Miles has died. The band of Gypsies can begin to convene again.

Buddy Miles.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/arts/music/28cnd-miles.html?hp

SNL writer surprised by debate mention

http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2008-02-27-clinton-SNL_N.htm?csp=34

Bear,
You never said I was racist. You did imply that much of the heat on Obama comes from sources or against personalities associated with being racist. I just wanted to be clear that nothing I have ever said about Obama is racist. I may think some he associates with are racist (towards whites or Jews), but I don't think Obama is racist, perhaps a bit anti-Zionist. His wife, well, I don't really know. So I said what I did because I want to make very clear I personally don't have a racist bone in my body and that includes genetic considerations of those who are Muslims. My objections to Islamists have nothing to do with blood. Islamofascist is a statistical term based on empirical observation, not genetic considerations.

I also do not brand you an idiot dove or a moonbat, my tin foil hat comments were a reaction, not a statement of fact....LOL, one quite difficult to picture if I even wanted to go there in my "creative imagination". God forbid this agnostic from taking that mental leap.

And now, the morning economic report.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/business/AP-Wall-Street.html?ref=business

If you are happy, don't click the link.

Every time Bush opens his mouth, the stock market takes another nose dive. One would almost suspect, people think he is lying through his teeth.

Dog's eye -- Aside from Ziggy's China mistakes -- his Great Idea to funnel arms into the Middle East to try and affect the Soviet's adventure in Afghanistan sure didn't turn out well. When asked about it he sneered. "What regrets, just some stirred-up Moslems."

jamie, Tom is off to a comic book convention - but rest assured, his tongue may have to be surgically separated from his cheek.

I'm in Ohio for a Cracker family emergency and on dial up but am hoping to have a trailspotter report

Patsi - my take on Zbiggy's intent in the Middle east in the 70s was that it was better to do something rather than nothing to support anti-Soviet forces in the region by providing them arms to fight the soviet troops than to get into a direct armed conflict with the Soviet giant so soon on the heels of Vietnam. With us out of Vietnam, the cooling down the cold war was a welcome relief and the American people would have never stood for us trying to save by military intervention another country halfway around the world from the Commie threat. Look at us today - maybe he was right and actually read the situation there correctly - the Soviets never were able to take Afghanistan and left after 10 years of trying.

Barack says one thing when he actually means another? Say it ain't so!!!!

CTV Canada: "Barack Obama has ratcheted up his attacks on NAFTA, but a senior member of his campaign team told a Canadian official not to take his criticisms seriously, CTV News has learned. Within the last month, a top staff member for Obama's campaign telephoned Michael Wilson, Canada's ambassador to the United States, and warned him that Obama would speak out against NAFTA, according to Canadian sources. The staff member reassured Wilson that the criticisms would only be campaign rhetoric, and should not be taken at face value."

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080227/dems_nafta_080227/20080227

kc, best of luck with the family emergency, and with the dial up connection. I've tried that with this site only to become frustrated and unwilling to wait for the almost interminable site loading delays.

jamie, people would think...? LOL

Maxtrue,

With regards to your Posted by: Maxtrue | February 28, 2008 10:10 AM post, I understand your concern but what confuses me is that the anti Obama people are on him because they don't like the way he will have to clean up W's mess. Yet they aren't nearly as angry at W for creating the mess.

With regards to your 10:58 post, everyone and I mean EVERYONE, has within them some form of bigotry or prejudice of some type. It may not always be triggered by race. I personally see the breakdown today to be along economic lines. You need to search youtube for the uncensored version of Chris Rock's Niggers vs. Black People. He took a lot of heat for it and won't perform it anymore because he felt it allowed white folks the license to use the word but notice who is in the audience, falling out of their seats laughing so hard.

Patsi, with regards to you 10:50 post, I was taught early on that a true gentleman ties his own tie.

I have a legal question of sorts.

If the following is true

"McCain was born on August 29, 1936, at the Coco Solo Air Base in the then-American-controlled Panama Canal Zone[2]"

How is he able to run for President since he was only born in a US controlled territory and not in the United States?

Bear - I think US embassies and military bases abroad are considered US soil (but I'm not sure - this issue does not come up often in corporate law...)

Shocker: Obama Campaign Reveals Fake Stand on NAFTA [Video UPDATE] »

A Canadian medical professional (no more to protect anonymity) reports to me: “This story made headlines tonight in Canada in all major Canadian news networks. Barack Obama has been caught lying. Spread this as much as you can because it is true and factually supported. I think the people of Ohio as well as the rest of America, deserve to know this.”

But Tuesday night in Ohio, where NAFTA is blamed for massive job losses, Obama said he would tell Canada and Mexico “that we will opt out unless we renegotiate the core labour and environmental standards.”

Oh, that bamboozler. Imagine, for a moment, that you’re the head of state or diplomatic corps, or one of the chief politicians or government officials, for the hundreds of nations across the world. Wouldn’t you read this article and wonder WHICH OBAMA you’ll be dealing with, and IF he means anything he says?"

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/

Funny:

"A man at a Clinton town-hall meeting here at a school gymnasium stood to say that it was a “no-brainer” that Mrs. Clinton should be president. He then turned toward the back of the gym where a penned-off area held perhaps 30 reporters and a half-dozen local and network cameras. “You guys have been so unfair to this lady,” he declared. “I can’t believe you.”"

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/clinton-asked-about-veep-role/

Bear -- a couple of thoughts....first, re: Chris Rock...

I've never liked him. But then I think back to the first times I heard Richard Pryor's act, and remember my mouth dropping -- but somehw when he said it I knew he was sticking it to the establishment. What's your take on Pryor?

Next -- the question of being native born...if you are born to an American military family on duty, it doesn't matter where it is, you are a citizen. At least that's what they told us when our daughter was born in Germany.

If it's factually supported, why are the sources remaining anonymous? If anonymous sources aren't good enough for the NY Times, then they aren't good enough for these people either. Who is the top "staffer" who leaked this information? I'm guessing it his Nation of Islam committee that feels Canada is to white to be a good neighbor right?

bear, that's never been ruled upon, but I don't think it is really much of an issue since he was on US military erritory, albeit in Panama, at the time. The founders were less than clear, although their intent was to prevent foreigners from becoming president.

Love this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAJYMgX4JuU

Senior member of Obama campaign phones Canadian ambassador to tell him that NAFTA would become part of the debate and that Obama would take heavy swings at the trade deal but then told the ambassador..."don't worry...it's just campaign rhetoric."

Nice...so O' what else is just "campaign rhetoric"?

New kind of politics eh?

LOL

Patsi,

With regards to Richard Pryor, I was too young to understand his standup when he was really popular. As I got older and started to watch him, I am impressed at how timeless his act was. There was a genius to comedy in the 70's. Whether it was Pryor or shows like All in the Family, The Jefferson's, Maude and many others. Were they to be debuting today, I think only Richard Pryor would have had the same success. Unfortunately the shows would have all been picketed or boycotted by someone who didn't get it.

New note...

http://www.cnbc.com/id/23371185

Hillary Clinton will appear on Jim Cramer's Mad Money program tonight...should be an interesting watch!

Bear and Pogo: great minds re the McCain born in Panama question. NY Times addressed that in story today. Bottom line: probably fine, but has never been narrowly ruled on and question of who has standing to raise the issue. Ted Olsen is looking into it at McCain campaign's request.

Previous presidential candidates born abroad: Lowell Weicker was born in Paris, George Romney in Mexico. Barry Goldwater born in Arizona territory 3 years before it became a state.

Hmmm. Maybe the trend of "born elsewhere and not elected President" will hold this year?

Patsi, I think that modern thought runs that way - the question is what the constitutional meaning of "native born citizen" is. It's the "native born"part that is the constitutional bugaboo. And I wouldn't necessarily take as gospel what "they" told you if the "they" was an armed forces source, or even a state department source for that matter. It's probably not an issue. Question, was your daughter eligible for German citizenship?

McCain's Canal Zone Birth prompts queries about whether that rules him out.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28mccain.html

Charisma matters:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20080228/cm_csm/yzellekebennis_1

Believe US immigration policy holds that if a child is born abroad to at least one American citizen, that child can claim US citizenship. So a naturalized American father's child, born in India or Britain or Uganda, would be considered American.

NYTimes uses the phrase "natural-born", penned in 1787; not even "native born."

Intent was to keep foreign-born foreign nationals from becoming president. Interesting that claims Chester Arthur was born in Canada surfaced (apparently, not stated) during his political career.

" And I wouldn't necessarily take as gospel what "they" told you if the "they" was an armed forces source, or even a state department source for that matter. It's probably not an issue. Question, was your daughter eligible for German citizenship?"

Pogo -- what we were told by the NSA (with whom my husband served) was that she wound in essence have dual citizenship until 18, and then she could apply for German citizenship or do nothing, and be an American citizen.

Warren:

10:32 post

Mika and Maureen Dowd obviously hate themselves as well as women in general (sort of like internalized homophobia...but for girls). So I'm not surprised that the feminists on this board and others call them on this.

If they didn't hate themselves and other women so much, they'd find more constructive and fairer ways to report on Hillary's candidacy (even if they don't agree with her or think she should be President - attack her on the issues or on her stances) rather than demean her and tear her down as a woman...when they do that it tears all women down.

Probably someone posted this a long time ago but I just read it and think it says it all:

http://www.cleveland.com/schultz/index.ssf?/base/living-0/1202808727169901.xml&coll=2

Bear -- interesting thoughts on Pryor. I didn't know ONE racist-type who liked him but have certainly met a few who think Chris Rick is fabulous. There was a difference either in the tone or the times.

Pogo

Most children born of children of one nationality who are born elsewhere have a status of dual citizenship. The rules about when they can assume that second citizenship vary from country to country. For some it is immediate such as here in the U.S. (the reason for so much angst over "anchor babies") for others it is when the child reaches majority and is able to make their own decision. Others even allow dual citizenship for life without swearing allegiance to one or the other.

Most children born of parents

Patsi - using your daughter as an example, it's that gray area created by the recognition of her birth in Germany by Germany that might be the problem for a kid born to American parents overseas if that kid wanted to be pres. Like I said, modern thought tends to run that it doesn't matter, but it's never been tested.

Well, off to lunch.

ET

"I think he could be the next Mahatma Gandhi...."

Please tell me your tongue is digging a very deep hole in your cheeck.

Posted by: jamie | February 28, 2008 10:49 AM

Indeed it is... indeed...

"The latest slice-and-dice of Hillary Clinton is a volume of 30 essays. "

I saw that book in Borders, it was awful. Can you imagine if the same book was written on Obama....no one would never print it because it would considered too racist.

Good link Wendy.

O/T

No I am not off to the comic book convention yet... Tomorrow I have to work and then Mauro and I head to Den Haag... sorry The Hague, for the convention. Mauro is one of the featured artists. http://www.myspace.com/lonesomechaser71 ... I am there for moral support and last year there was a CD , vinyl and cassette convention attached to the same building. Those things are dangerous for me...

"Mika and Maureen Dowd obviously hate themselves as well as women in general"

Bold statement Wendy. I assume Mika and Maureen Dowd would take issue with it.

I just wish you Clinton supporters would not demonize all those who do not think Hillary is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Clinton has flaws. Some people pointing out these flaws may be sexist - but that does not mean the flaws aren't real. Clinton would be better served addressing these flaws - than fighting with her critics about what their motives are.

O/T again...

I am an active member of MYSpace and I also have FACEBOOK. I don't quite get FACEBOOK.. But I am trying.... Anyone else use these social networks?

Warren,

You might want to at least make an attempt to understand women -

Warren, have you ever read any of the shit Maureen spews? Would you criticize Bear or Alpha if they were angered by a black attacking Obama by using racist words?

I didn't think so.

Another inequity