Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Hats off to SNL for being the first(that I've seen) to have some fun with "Obamamania". I'll be watching Reliable Sources this morning to see if CNN can laugh at themselves.

All hat, not cattle? heheheheheh

It's such an uphill fight for Hillary now, but the more I listen and watch Obama, the less confident I am that he can carry off a general election win. He keeps on opening doors for criticism by the retarded-right. And really, any Presidential candidate who refuses to wear an American flag pin, no matter what reasoning they see -- it's going to be fodder all the way through the election I fear.

I still hope for Hillary. Larry Sabato puts her chance now at only 20% to get the nomination. We can hold off a bit longer.

Glad I DVR'd SNL last night!!
The problem is double edge - when Obama starts to share his policy speech - this also may drive voters away. The naivety of Barack is refreshing but the real world will take more then a wish and fantasy to bring audacity of hope to reality. Having young voter in my house – I wonder if Barack can give any better answers to the difficult question? Barack Policy - if you can find it will be a concern to most once understood.

CRAIG – you set yourself up as some will read this as anti Obama, which clearly you have laid the facts and guidance. He should hire you. However I am sure you want to be with a winner.

Obama Comedown Syndrome - David Brooks

"The afflicted had already been through the phases of Obama-mania — fainting at rallies, weeping over their touch screens while watching Obama videos, spending hours making folk crafts featuring Michelle Obama’s face. These patients had experienced intense surges of hope-amine, the brain chemical that fuels euphoric sensations of historic change and personal salvation.

... .. Up until now The Chosen One’s speeches had seemed to them less like stretches of words and more like soul sensations that transcended time and space. But those in the grips of Obama Comedown Syndrome began to wonder if His stuff actually made sense. For example, His Hopeness tells rallies that we are the change we have been waiting for, but if we are the change we have been waiting for then why have we been waiting since we’ve been here all along? ... "

TM - "What the media has ignored, then built up, they now are salivating to tear down. This is going to get ugly. Just wait until the GOP starts defining Mr. Obama, something he should have done himself a long time ago."

http://www.taylormarsh.com/

Morn'n dog,
How about HRC - Coming out with passion. So maybe the "Famous ending" of the last debate was more like a kiss from the God Father?

The clips I have seen of HRC in the last 24 hours are the first I have seen in awhile that she appears Presidential.
Lets see if BO flinches

Good Morning. You go Craig go!!! You are right on and finally the media is figuring things out. I watched the SOSBU speech she gave and it was wonderful.
Cleveland's Debate should be awesome.
Go Hillary!! Ohio is here for you!!!

Benchley he's not......

Ping you are right on Though I looked at it as a diplomatic way of saying bye bye Obama.

FRANK RICH SPOTS A BIGOTED LIAR

"The pattern has been clear for some time; you can trash Big Dems any damn way you please. If Gore can be the world’s biggest liar, why can’t the Clintons both be major racists? Liberals barely uttered a peep while Gore was endlessly trashed that way. Today, many liberals are deeply involved in pushing the race claims RE Clinton."

http://dailyhowler.com/

Gordo, I got lost in the link? I have been traveling and do not have the time to post here to my FAVORITE place - Fav for many reasons.

Do DOG, I shall self declare to you and all that read and do not read this little declaration, that I the Ping will be the official Red Dot filter for all things as such related to the title on Crawfordslist.

Did you get that ?

http://www.allhatnocattle.net/2-15-08_bush_pardons_roger_clemens.htm

speaking of All hat no cattle.......

This is one of those, "I wish I hadn't been right" columns. Way back at the beginning of the debates, I commented that he sounded as if he had swallowed his briefing books. There seemed to be no real knowledge, world experience, or empathy behind his answers only a regurgitation like a star student on a test.

The other day when dealing with direct questions from newspeople about a minor issue that didn't fit in with the spiel he was all stop and stutter. Not because he isn't bright but because he is only comfortable with what he has memorized not what he knows.

Paul Krugman Says He Was "Censored" By New York Times

"Over on his blog, Paul Krugman reveals today that the paper told him he couldn't use the following lede on his column on last year's State of the Union Address:"

“Before the State of the Union address, there had been hints and hopes that President Bush would offer a serious plan to reduce our dependence on imported oil. Instead, however, he took refuge in alcohol."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/horsesmouth/

"good guide to what upper middle class journalists residing in Chevy Chase, Maryland (desirable location) think"

Since these are the members of the media who have been leading the charge against Senator Clinton, any change in their attitudes might be worth investigation.

Yes Craig this is the Prozac et. al. generation. People don't want to hear any bad stuff, what the problems are and how you are going to try and solve them. That has been Clinton's problem. She just isn't shallow enough and she can't dumb herself down enough. People don't have the attention span for details. They want their leader to just be happy and tell them "Yes We Can!"

Jamie I watched that and I almost felt bad for him. I am psychologist and I also noticed is eyes and his lack of feeling when talking about it. I question whether he has any affect. You are exactly right, if it is not scripted he is lost.
I sure hope,Ohio realizes that by March 4. I have confidence she will win. Bill did not win until June.

I watched the replay of HC's SOTBU speech via C-Span this morning. I thought she was pretty good, and there was good audience response during the Q&A.

I was disappointed by the demeanor of many in the audience, mostly the younger people, who, through their body language demeaned the historical significance of what they were experiencing.

I think that every one of us when attending a lecture from a professor that we had to suffer through, would have behaved with more civility.

I thought Tavis asked the right questions allowing her to expand on her platform and to speak about her historical commitments.

I was pleased at the opportunity of being there through the courtesy of C-Span's lens.

"As Alexander Cockburn wrote about Obama: “I used to think Sen. Joe Lieberman was the man whose words I’d least like to be force fed top volume if I was chained next to a loudspeaker in Camp Gitmo, but I think Obama, who picked Lieberman as his mentor when he first entered the U.S. Senate, is worse. I’ve never heard a politician so desperate not to offend conventional elite opinion while pretending to be fearless and forthright.”

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/

"David Brooks is not a reliable guide to ANYTHING"

Isn't that the truth, dog's eye! I've half-way followed him over the past few years and noticed that he often takes completely different positions depending on whether he's writing a column or appearing on various shows. And his positions are so often so flawed.

By the way, Gordo....wean yourself away from Taylor. I read her sometimes, and sometimes she makes good points. But she is VERY partisan, to the point of HER being cultish.

Now I have to find that article about George Bush being drunk! :)

dog's eye

I'm not putting down his community organization because you are right that most of the uplift in poor areas comes not so much from government, but rather people joining together to pull themselves up. What I wish was that someone had taken a close look at this period in his life to determine how many of his activities were as the "public image" of the activities and how much had been the "on the street" grunt work necessary to make things happen.

Did you see the closing of the Tavis Smiley event yesterday? He closed it by thanking the people on his staff who had actually pulled the event together, made the arrangements, and moved people from point A to point B. What I want to know about Senator Obama is did he climb the ladder to become the leader or did some person/group put him up on the pinacle because he spoke and looked like the image they wanted.

For the people who did not watch SNL...

The Tina Fey commentary on HRC being president is hysterical!!!

"B*tch is the new black"...ROTFLMAO!!!

http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/#mea=221773

Ralph Nader's hat is forcefully tossed into the ring. We await the towel being next.....

Lush

Thank you for that clip. I don't stay up late enough for Saturday Night Live.

Montpellier

"Ralph Nader's hat is forcefully tossed into the ring."

Shame his head didn't go with it. He is right about so much. Couldn't he find another way to get the message across without screwing with the election.

lennon / yoko......"woman is the Nword of the World"

Charlie Crist is on Washington Journal this AM on cspan. He reinforced his position that the Democratic delegates from Florida (and Michigan) should be seated at the Convention and backed off from the idea of caucuses to obtain new results. He believes that the people have already spoken and they should be heard.

Not saying that Crist ruled out a caucus...just didn't commit one way or the other...

OHIO is for HILLARY. She has so much KNOWLEDGE and GREAT PLANS to help ALL AMERICANS! Yesterday as I watched her during the state of the black union....I thought once again she shows ACTION! You know it is one thing to say they will stop how AMERICANS feel INVISIBLE. Well yesterday...I guess we can all agree she showed she is not just all words..she follows her words by ACTION. Where was Obama ....I bet he was out inspiring VOTERS...didn't he say he wasn't for the same old politics doing the same old things.....WOW then he declines to show up for the state of the black union.

Jamie, You said what I have been thinking. I agree I believe there is a group behind him because of his presence and speaking ability and a nice guy.
That is scary I think. Michele even said she would not back Hillary if Barack does not win. That is terrible.

Stand away from the Upper Case with your HANDS above your HEAD......

Last night's SNL was great!!

Jamie, watch the clips that reference the Oscar nominated movies!!

Also, the BHO/HRC opening is hilarious!!

Has everyone seen all the Best Movie Nominees?

Not saying that Crist ruled out a caucus...just didn't commit one way or the other...

Thanks for the link to the Tina Fey clip Linda. Loved loved loved it! And she is right about the nuns...I'm a Catholic school girl myself. Some of the meanest women I ever met were nuns but also some of the sweetest.

dog...all the clips are on the link I posted

When I lived in Pinellas County in Florida Crist came to talk with my city commission. That was when he was running for, I think, state senate.

There were two of us who were mightily impressed. Both of us were long-term Democrats. Go figure.

I think Crist, if push came to shove, would give strong support to the results of the existing primary.

egad......Russert confused Wendell Wilkie and Harold Stassen........

lush

From what I've see by people getting into the Oscar contest, most people haven't seen any of them. We are all just guessing.

I've seen some of the movies up for minor awards, but few of the majors.

Did you see the instructions for joining the Trailmixers group on the Oscar site? I think the entries have to be in no later than 1:00 p.m.

IMO, the Obama/Clinton skit would have been funnier if they had made-up the media people to be Chris, Joe and Mika!!!

"Some of the meanest women I ever met were nuns but also some of the sweetest"

The one thing I've always noted about nuns is that they rarely look their age. Always thought it was absolute proof that men may be incredibly wonderful, but living with one can sure wear on you. :-)

John McCain as Herbert Hoover?

o/' Mister , we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again...o/'

Wasn't that a line from the theme from "All in the Family"? And TT , I posted a entry on my blog about the top 10 rejected candy hearts sentiments back on Valentines Day.

Corey.....that was a great list......

Of the movies nominated...I have seen:

No Country for Old Men
There Will be Blood
Michael Clayton

I love the Coen Brothers movies, but I do not think No Country should get the award.

My list is

1)There Will be Blood
2) Michael clayton
3)No Country

Thanks Sturg! It was all in the "One More Cow".

Jamie

I didn't see an Oscar contest. Where is it?

So Nader announced he's launching a third party candidacy....

lets face it the media picked the candidates for this election........thats a shame because the country is in a mess after the last 8 years and we shouldnt be gambling on someone who is a con artist .......i just hope for the sake of my grandchildren this country straightens itself out

What's Nader's slogan? YES WE CAN...But NOT in a Corvair!

Question for Craig--

Has the press agreed that it's off-limits to inquire about the candidate's alcohol, tobacco, and drug use?

Lush

Here is the Oscar site: http://predict.oscar.go.com/predict/frontpage

Register

fill out your ballot and save then off to the left you will see "join group"

Click on that and enter Trailmixers in the search window

Click on the trailmixer button

It will ask for a password

enter durward

once you are in it will ask fif you want to edit your picks.

reply to Jamies 9:40 post: I had never really thought about it but I bet that some of those old bitties were were probably...my age now.

But seriously, one of my best memories was loading into Sister Karen's olive green Chevy Nova in the 4th grade as we traveled around the state of Oregon to Spelling Bees. When you go to Catholic school you can't imagine nuns driving a car so the first time we got behind the wheel I remember thinking: Wow...nuns are just regular people (kind of!)

ubns

one thing the press has agred to is not to go after obama

Not long after Nader tilted the 2000 election, I received a fund raising letter from one of the non-profits his name was connected to. I wrote back and asked them t take me off the mailing list and told them why. I got a long personal letter from the head of the charity in which he basically disavowed connection to Saint Ralph.

Golly, Nader is such an insufferable, self-important, selfish little man.

all nader proves is how ignorant a lot of the voting public really is .....he will get his 3 percent and have enough money to live on for the next 4 years......this is how he makes his living

I dont think I've ever even so much as MET a nun......I liked "Sister Act" though......

Clever post this morning Craig,

I'm reading it as "All Hat No Cattle" Meets "One More Cow".

Who knew all those weeks ago, that you were building a case for Obama to defend himself against his attackers?

One time when I was in college I flew down to Arizona to visit my then boyfriend. I bought the latest issue of Cosmo and sat down at the gate. Right across from me was a nun in full garb. I thought to myself: I am going to be seated right next to that nun and I am not going to be able to read my new Cosmo. Sure enough, she was on the aisle, I was in the middle. Nothing to read the entire flight. Some of you may have been able to indulge in the various sex surveys etc. Cosmo has to offer while seated next to a nun. Not this Catholic school girl.

{BTW: Before you judge my reading choices, I was in college.}

If anyone has any trouble getting in to the Oscar site to compete for the diamonds. CNN has a super easy spot to use to win a hi def TV

http://www.cnn.com/ite

Simply register then click on the pictures of the nominees and then log out.

During the show, you will be able to watch live to see if you agree with the experts and who wins.

Official Show starts 5:00/8:00

Whole bunch of stuff to bore the beejeesus out of you before the kick off :-)

euro tom

believe me your feelings are correct ....this country got conned by George W and are getting conned by obama

The New York Times takes itsself to the woodshed over the McCain article

The Public Editor slams the article.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/opinion/24pubed.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&ref=politics&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

"lets face it the media picked the candidates for this election........"

They gave us Bush in 2000 and being incredibly proud of themselves they did it again in 2004. Flushed with their successful actions 2008 will be their grandest exercise to date.

It wrote an article about MSNBC this time around

http://jdurward.blogspot.com/2008/02/betrayal.html

I'm not Catholic, but there was a cloistered nunnery in Alhambra, CA (I don't know if it is still there) where I used to go on three or four day retreats.

There is a lot to be said for separating from the world and listening to silence. Would love to find something similar up here in Washington.

jamie ---------------

"What I want to know about Senator Obama is did he climb the ladder to become the leader or did some person/group put him up on the pinacle because he spoke and looked like the image they wanted."

Maybe it's the "Brzezinski Clan". Who else? Seems like something big ( in addition to Zbig ) is pulling his strings.

(Now begin screaming at me, everyone.)

good article

I have a helluva nun story. One of my older sisters (I had a bunch of 'em) was something else....an Ava Gardiner lookalike, with Ava's personality as well. Definitely larger than life for such a petite woman. She died of a brain anuerism in her early fifties....her husband was so distraught he started drinking and ended up going to rehab. His "contact" was a nun -- don't know what they call the people who stick by each person when they get sprung....

The two ended up having a long and very secret affair that only ended when he died 15 years later....

I asked one of my other sisters what she thought about it, and she said, "Well, after Barbara, I guess a nun was the only way to go."

gordo

how can anyone scream when your 'right on '....some one has to ask those questions

Miss M singing one of my favorite songs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCRjAa2EW4c

Jamie: Have you ever been to Shaw Island? The Nuns left the island in 2004 (for nearly 30 years they ran the ferry landing and general store) but Shaw Island is about as close to complete silence and serenity as you will ever see. Very few amenities but many opportunities to decompress.

Ally

Never heard of it. I'll see what I can find out. Thanks.

dogs eye view

not trying to be redundent .....what has this guy got besides written speechs that he memorizes......the press conference yesterday he stutters when answering .........hes done nothing and will put us anoter 2 trillion in debt .....although i think congress will make him a do nothing president

Jamie, our prayer wheel gets some pretty good workouts during campaign season. It helps.

Our across the street neighbors had three kids. One boy went to West Point, the other to the Coast Guard Academy, and the daughter became a nun.

dog
tell me what hes done ....you obama people are dreamers

dog
even JFK was bad in is first year due to inexperience ....almost got us into a nuclear war over his bay of pigs mistake

Patsi: Wow! That is a good nun story! Oy.

Wendy, we watched really early this morning before 6-a.m.

I just looked on their website and they don't have another repeat scheduled that I can find. Perhaps they'll do a podcast of it next week.

Watching Sunday Morning. Nice reminder that once more Elton John will be raising a few more million for the Elton John AIDS Foundation with his Oscar Party

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/24/wuspols124.xml

Was this announced earlier and I missed it?

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/02/nader-enters-pr.html

Lush Did you note that the Telegraph is helping with your Oscar picks?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2008/02/22/bfoscars122.xml&DCMP=ILC-traffdrv07053100

I'll be watching Reliable Sources this morning to see if CNN can laugh at themselves.

Posted by: ubns | February 24, 2008 6:37 AM

....and that would be a great big 'nope!'

Craig -"I watched his own supporters yawn as he plowed the issue weeds."

Last night in Cleveland, Obama supporters left before he was finished. At one point he lost his place in his speech, it was really awkward from a speaking point of view. It was during the "hope" rift, and it fell flat.

I came away thinking he could be replace by any other young successful community organizer, who graduated Harvard Law, etc. That is what he does best. But there are so many people in the USA, who could fill those shoes. Meaning, I do not see that Obama, personally, brings anything of great value, character, knowledge or unique experience to the position of the President of the US.

I tried to like him, I went with an open mind, I came away, thinking I could never vote for him....I hope I do not have to.

Wendy:

http://www.necn.com/category/32/3852

SOTBU: I know you can catch the entire replay Friday (C-Span said something about it at the end of the broadcast yesterday and I am almost positive it was Friday evening.)

and you still havent told me what hes done .....because he hasnt done anything ......change ??? he isnt going to change congress who have all comittee chairs in their 60's anf 70's ......who wouldnt change when 75 percent of this country wanted out of this war .....you think hes going to change them ,,,,,,i dont hate the guy like obamaniacs hate hillary ....im 67 years old and know a con artist when i hear one

Jamie

I can't log into the Oscar vote site. 8(

The media pick the winners
by Bill Press

"Nonetheless, even though no one candidate has yet locked up their party's nomination, we might as well cancel the rest of the primaries or caucuses. The media have already decided that this year's standard bearers will be John McCain and Barack Obama.

Yes, somewhere along the line, the role of the media has changed from reporting on the primaries to deciding the primaries. They pick their favorites, they give them preferential treatment, they tear down their opponents, and they anoint their winning candidates even before voters have a chance to go to the polls."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=55807

Similar to the Ali-Foreman fight most people thought Ali was going to get soundly beaten up by Foreman. Ali had a plan to big the much bigger, tougher fighter. he would stay on the ropes and take the hard shots, while taunting him with, "Is that all you got". Ali won the fight, and he won the fight with what would become know as the ropea-dope technique. Ali won by keeping his reserves in-check until Foreman got tired and then Ali unloaded on him

Obama is winning, Hillary seemed to some to almost be throwing in the towel during this last debate, she looks tired, she appears to be beaten, but I got a feeling HRC is taking a page out of the Ali playbook and is doing a ropea-dope of her own making. I think today's news is proof of that.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080223223512.k2z54xvc&show_article=1

Lush

Wait a bit. I'm going to the CNN site. Let me see if I can set up a group there.

OK...bbl...I'll try then 8)

Mr. Fry......from your keyboard to god's monitor......

dog

i am still waiting for an answer to what hes done
and you still havent told me what hes done .....because he hasnt done anything ......change ??? he isnt going to change congress who have all comittee chairs in their 60's anf 70's ......who wouldnt change when 75 percent of this country wanted out of this war .....you think hes going to change them ,,,,,,i dont hate the guy like obamaniacs hate hillary ....im 67 years old and know a con artist when i hear one

Good Bill Press article, Gordo. I liked this part:

"No doubt, McCain's an attractive candidate. After interviewing him on the Straight Talk Express in 2000, I became somewhat of a McCainiac myself. He's accessible, funny and irreverent: all the qualities reporters like in a candidate, which is why he gets a free ride from his friends in the media, compared to Mitt Romney. Everybody knows about Romney's flip-flops, yet McCain has changed positions on tax cuts, immigration, the Confederate flag, repeal of Roe v. Wade and the role of evangelicals in politics. Read about any of those in the press? Of course not."

Jamie said:

"What I wish was that someone had taken a close look at this period in his life to determine how many of his activities were as the "public image" of the activities and how much had been the "on the street" grunt work necessary to make things happen."

Jamie
As someone who has done community organizing on the block level(even have a couple of success stories I brag about) I was sceptical of the community organizer banner.
In the non-profit/ CDC world many call themselves community organizers. Most of them are better described as , grant writers, seminar providers, management. They never get in the neighborhood and knock on doors.
However, I believe that Obama (or one of his speech writers) has been out in the trenches, knocking on doors, personally trying to persuade people to help themselves make their life better.
There is a story he has in one of his speeches, a story only someone who has been in the trenches can tell.
I think anyone who does door to door organizing has the same story, I do.
It is the first time story.
You have done all your work contacted everybody on the block , they all seemed excited and interested. They all agree to meet to organize. You find a place to meet arrange everything ,soft drink, little snack cakes , door prizes,
Then you and your fellow organizers wait for the people to come. Then you wait some more and more and more. Nobody shows.

When Obama told this story I knew he was a fellow organizer.

Jack

Two ways to go folks. You can enter as an individual to go for the prizes and/or you can enter the pool but there are no prizes just bragging rights.

http://www.cnn.com/ite

Register. Click on your picks and submit as an individual. If you want to play in the group

Group Name: One More Cow
Password: Crawford

click on picks and submit

jack

too bad being president isnt going door to door ......because the people he has to change are the lifetime congress chairs who give a dam less about this country and only care about themselves

It's like organizing anything, it's a lot of work and the more people you enlist the quicker things get accomplish. This is exactly how he has run his campaign....

I do not think there is any question on his civic organizational skills...

Jack,

That is the sort of thing I would want to know preferrably from a source who can testify they actually saw him in action.

As to the open the doors and no one comes story: Been there, done that :-)

I agree zumper

I like the "b* tch" is the new "black"on SNL...that was funny.

who can organize those baboons in congress ......no one

Burrito

"This is exactly how he has run his campaign"

This is what is at the heart of my question. Who is doing the running? It's all well and good that the engine is humming along in perfect tune. Who is the mechanic?

jamie

THE MEDIA IS HIS ENGINE

remember the media helped get us into this war ,,,,because they would rather have ratings

Oh Wow! The Oscar nominated animated shorts are on You Tube. For the Beatles fans and animated interview with John Lennon

I Met The Walrus

http://youtube.com/watch?v=poLVBz1iKnU&feature=related

Well I don't know, who is behind it, but it has worked thus far. I do not even know how one would find out the details, as to when "they" sat down and made the plans. Or just who"they " are.

But it appears to be very calculated.

Someone knows.

Zumper - your last two points re: Media - very good - very true.

Was Senator Clinton channeling George W. Bush using the "Fool me once...fool me twice..." phrasing?

(To her credit, she didn't mangle the phrase, but why align herself more with Mr. Bush?)

thanks wendy ......the truth is easy to write about

maybe hillary with the "fool me once" wanted to show a presidential candidate who could actually articulate thoughts......as opposed to one who wanted to put food on people's families, etc......

its a known fact that there is more sexism than racism in this country........FACT: blacks were allowed to vote before women...........im a 67 year old male who is embarrassed by the sexism in this election...HRC is qualified and intelligent ...i dont see any woman superstar on the horizon so i will probably go to my grave never seeing a woman president

There is more sexism then racism globally.

I nominate Chuck Hagel for new conductor on the Straight Talk Express.......McCain is a cartoon character compared to Mr. Hagel.....

I have regular nun customers at my gas station... I have to stop saying "Madam" and say "zuster" I mix that up.

I was in Lucca Italy in November and saw two old Italian nuns walking down the street so I couldn't help but snap a picture...

Herbert Hoover has been greatly revered in Belgium... He led a food drive for Belgium in WW I when there was no food. You will still find streets named after Hoover and a museum in his honor. http://www.hoover.nara.gov/exhibits/collections/flour%20sacks/index.html

Was Senator Clinton channeling George W. Bush using the "Fool me once...fool me twice..." phrasing?

(To her credit, she didn't mangle the phrase, but why align herself more with Mr. Bush?)

Posted by: benjaminblue | February 24, 2008

Maybe she was channeling Mr. Scott from Star Trek

Look at Richardson's beard....

He needs to make a decision. He is playing games It is not that hard to make a decision.

He needs to make a decision. He is playing games It is not that hard to make a decision.

"I nominate Chuck Hagel for new conductor on the Straight Talk Express....."

I second the nomination. He's way too conservative for me, but I think he's honest.

From what I read, and where I did I don't exactly remember, Hillary has to win Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania and still have the punished delegate states seated in order to win the nomination.

Something caught my interest yesterday... someone pointed out that the early primary in Florida was the doing of the Republican governor and legislature. Is it possible that the gov knew that the Dems would penalize the entire delegation, but the repugs only 1/2 resulting in Floridians feeling more "in favor" with the pugs? Just a thought.

We've been pretty cordial today, but the day is young ;-)

dog
im from ny .......i cant believe its going to take a day or two to come up with something obama has done ...but ill be looking forward to hearing it .......i know one thing in the 2 1/2 years in the senate he has not once worked accross the aisle ,,,,,,,,HRC has many times ....whos the uniter

euro tom

the florida republican legislature moved the primary up and the govenor signed it into law.....the dem voters had no choive in the matter ,,,,but they are being punished for their vote through no fult of their own .....1.7 million of them

dog
its been 2 hours and you havent come up with one thing obama has done .....lay off the kool aid

"I nominate Chuck Hagel for new conductor on the Straight Talk Express....."

Richardson/Hagel '08!

dog
excuse me 3 hours

Just finished watching Hillary at SOTBU yestereday. Here is link to full clip:

http://www.c-span.org/Politics/Default.aspx

Great speech.

I noticed that the younger folks in the audience were not very interested or enthusiastic but OK.

What I did love was Tavis Smiley with several little swipes at Barack Obama by coming out and telling them to get on their feet and thank Hillary for "showing up" after her speech then doing it again after the Q & A saying - thank HRC for "showing up". I believe he was making a point to some of the younger voters that refused to even show any appreciation...basically saying that no matter how you feel about her, at least she showed up to talk to us and was willing to answer questions - you can at least acknowledge that - takes a lot of guts to walk into a hostile environment like that. BO would have brought the place down and he didn't even bother to show up - taking their support for granted ...so she did deserve a lot of credit...even if it was just out of politeness.

Listen closely to what Chuck said.

OH let us stop with expecting one supporter here to provide all the information people seek on a candidate. If you want info on Obama, google him... I am sure there is a campaign website... you can also find criticisms and then make an informed decision...

zumper wrote: "so i will probably go to my grave never seeing a woman president"

Let's hope you are not right on this one. 1) hopefully Hillary's candidacy inspires more women to give it a shot (would be nice to have multiple female candidates going forward instead of just 1 if at all from cycle to cycle and 2) you just hang in there!

My god, is LaRouche still alive?

when I said nominate Chuck Hagel for the STE I was mainly addressing his thoughts on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.......but no way I'd ever vote for a republican ....ANY republican......

Zumper

Take it easy on Dog's Eye. She may not be used to researching on the web and she wants to be clear about the reasons for her support of Obama. I'm willing to wait for both her reasoning and writing. Questions can start once she has stated her case.

It'd be something to think about however, if Hagel ran with Richardson.....i must admit.....

Biden on This Week ... talk about feeling as if the voters made a mistake

i changed to independent in 1984 after being a democrat all my life ......when they put up mondale (lost 49 states) tjhen dukakis (bush lanslide ) and before those 2 idiots carter (nice guy bad president ) and mC govern (lost 48 states to nixon)....and of course kerry the wimp......and now a fantasy candidate......who will probably win in nov because a potted plant will beat the republicans ......i am clad im an independent because i would be embarrassed to say im a democrat

dog
see 12:12 post

Jamie,
"Biden on This Week ... talk about feeling as if the voters made a mistake"

Biden was great on This Week. Too bad the media wouldn't give him the time of day when he was running.

how so Jamie? re: Biden? I don't get these shows.

The SNL opening said it all..

I am off.. this is too much time online

cheers all

I'm with Jamie. I'd like to hear a little bit of people's personal stories - bring up things BO has done and why that makes them believe he'll be a good president. I also don't mind waiting for someone to put it together.

zumper,

up your meds as your short term memory seems to be failing you as you have mentioned how you used to be a dem and now an indpend many times in the short time you have infested this blog. Do your own research and quit asking Dog to do it for you. You are as big a bore as Gordo and that one is world class.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Senator Joseph Biden is probably the single best foreign relations expert in the Senate. He is extremely pleasant but about as wonkish as you can get simply because he knows so darn much. He was my first choice for the Democratic nomination even though I knew he had a snowball's chance, and, after running in in the early primaries, hedropped out due to lack of votes.

This morning he just quietly sat down with Stephanopoulis and analyzed the world, principally Cuba, the middle east and Kosovo.

Here's the "This Week" site. You can get podcasts. I've never investigated if you can watch on line

http://abcnews.go.com/thisweek

Horsedooty, be nice...

Horsedooty!
why do need research i asked dog a simple question what has obama done .......over 3 hrs ago and still no answer .....check out anything ive written and you will see its all true.....thats why we have had only one dem president in 27 years

I used to think he was ONE hot number when I was a teenager... I think that is when it was.. anyway a long time ago. Was Biden in the senate 30 years ago?

I don't understand how anyone can think that the USA will ever find, or make peace in this world, when the people of the USA can't even be civil to each other on a simple blog.

Think about it - then criticize me.

clinton lost his first 8 primaries because the goofy far left want tsongus ............clinton and FDR onlt 2 termers for the dems ......i vote dem most of the time except for dukikus.......far left are idiots as far as im concerned ......country is centrist and etreme candidates are no good for the country

I actually agree with zumper on the centrist bit. I believe the same - must govern from the middle because the country is to diverse - compromise is the name of the game in order to make real progress.

I hate to say it cuz I'm going to get crucified for it - but - even though i didn't like all of Clinton's compromises...he did move us forward...unlike the extreme right government of GWB who has moved us back to the dark ages.

get used to it zumper as you are a party of one.

yo soy Horsedooty!

got to go everyone have a nice day

While conducting some research I found much to my surprise that the most referred to .com on this blog, the one that out strips all others is......www.youtube.com

Governor Sebulius is having a rough time defending Obama fliers on CNN..essentially she is ignoring fliers and doing Obamaspeak. Governor Rendel would make a great Vice-Presidential candidate for Hillary...He looks like the grown up on this program.

Just a thread on the Carter/Obama connection. McCain will have fun with this.....

http://stubbornfacts.us/random/friday_open_thread_9#comment-13309

Hats off to Tina Fey. CNN and CQ reported on Huckabee but filtered out the jabs at Obama. Just what SLN was poking fun at. Reality imates art imitating reality.

Platoon remark by Obama was a lie and after Hillary's graciousness the nafta pandering and lies about "boon" is classy too. Also, Obama said he only had a casual relationship with Rezko. Did you know that Rezko gave money to Khaladi (Obama's friend from his rarely discussed Columbia years, who spoke for the PLO when they were a terroroist group) back in 2002? What a strange circle of friends. This is the stuff that kills later, but much is mention in the above link.

McCain i s s u c h aaaaaaaaaaa d r o n e

we're in luck..........McCain is channeling Bob Dole.......

Sturg,

Put lava lights on each side of your TV, light some incense, lower the lights and then listen to McCain after smoking a big one,
actually, things won't really get good until hte Dems face off the Repubs if Obama wins. Until then, its like SLN said.

Or you can replay Oprah's words for Obama...

oprah who?

Remember that Oprah said that she has voted for as many Republicans as Democrats..Why doesn't the media press her on that. Which Republicans did she vote for? Did she vote against Democratic presidential candidates?

maxtrue,

I don't recall anyone asking you back yet here you are. I thought you said you were gone because no one liked you or some such.

yo soy Horsedooty!

"Your candidate's "superior" experience has lead her to put together one of the worst campaigns .."

The only reason Obama is winning because Clinton has a bad campaign? Doesn't say much for Obama
and his chances for the fall.

Obama funded that immoral war too so he was against it before he was for. Plenty of other senators vvoted against the funding.

Sr. El Dooty......it's now known as the "Long Internet Good-bye" chat rooms are full of it......

MaxT....I dont, by the way, care if you're here or not.....but it is kind of silly to bid an emotional farewell and then show up the next day......

Lots of Obamaspeak here today..
Generalizations
Exaggerations
Avoidance of direct answers
Personal insult

Isn't the "new politics" great..

Shame on you Barack Obama

"Chat rooms are full of it"...

:-)

Don't you guys hate those false identities? *runs and ducks*

Actually this site was a lot more fun yesterday when Craig was actively involved.

I wrote a short blog in favor of Hillary today ... http://eurotom.blogspot.com/ ... not one of my best, but so it is...

EuroTom..
Checked out your blog..Very good points about "experience". Hillary '08!!

I believe EuroTom you left out was in that 35 years of experience 16 or so of those years she was First Lady of Ar and First Lady of the US while Bill was President. When Bill was Atty General of AR she worked at the law firm. Does this count in your way of thinking? I don't think so.

So, really as an elected official it has been what 6 or 7 years she has worked for herself in Gov"t And like I said, you neglected to say that.

yo soy Horsedooty!

PBS is showing a special on Ella Fitzgerald right now. It's narrated by Tony Bennett.

Dooty,

You might check out this page (It is from her site but there are other testimonys elsewhere) about what she was doing in ADDITION to her duties as First Lady.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/about/mom/

During the Tavis Smiley event yesterday, several women testified to her decades of work on behalf of women and children.

Saw Ella live once at the cistern of the College of Charleston with a quartet and then with the orchestra also.......what a nice lady she was......

Jamie..you posted an excellent source, quantifying the significant, valuable experience of Senator Clinton.

I watched the State of the Black Union yesterday most all afternoon.

you seem to accept that info but not Obama's. Also, remember she has about 20 years on him also so she has had a longer time to run up the accomplishments. Did she get her hands dirty like you want BHO to do? Seems like very judgmental selection to me. No doubt she did work on that stuff but not every day.

If you remember there were many testimonies for Obama from the panel also.

you did hear those NO?

yo soy Horsedooty!

"A solid liberal who can inspire and lead "

And there is the problem, Americans don't want liberals in a position of power. Even FDR ran to the right in a year that anybody could have beat the Republicans. The only time in the last 100 years was JFK. and he couldn't govern effectively once he was president.

Jack

Horsedooty

"Did she get her hands dirty like you want BHO to do?"

She did at the beginning when she first started with some of these groups back when she was still at Wellesley and Yale. She moved up the ladder.

That is what I want to know about Senator Obama. He seems to have gone from High School to College to Law School to his organization work. All I am asking is at any point did he do the voluteer and low paid nitty gritty work or did he slide from comfort to comfort.

Jamie,
Take heart, the goods news is that everyday that passes the MSM, other than the NYT, are starting to slowly peel away at the thin layers of the Obama mystique, and are exposing that other than a smiling face, a well spoken individual who boast of a number of talking points, there just isn't much there in the way of substance or accomplishments.

"And there is the problem, Americans don't want liberals in a position of power."

No, Jack, the problem is that the word "liberal" has been made into a big bad dirty word by the right. The definition of the word "liberal" is thus:

1. suitable for a freeman; not restricted: now only in liberal arts, liberal education, etc.
2. giving freely; generous
3. large or plentiful; ample; abundant a liberal reward
4. not restricted to the literal meaning; not strict a liberal interpretation of the Bible
5. tolerant of views differing from one's own; broad-minded; specif., not orthodox
6. of democratic or republican forms of government, as distinguished from monarchies, aristocracies, etc.
7. favoring reform or progress, as in religion, education, etc.; specif., favoring political reforms
8. tending toward democracy and personal freedom for the individual; progressive
9. designating or of a political party upholding liberal principles, esp. such a party in England or Canada
10. excessively free or indecorous in behavior; licentious

How did all of this become a BAD THING? By the right insinuating that having LIBERALS (oh noes!!!) in charge would mean we'd all be forced to give up our guns, gay marry each other, and convert to Islam and become Communists. And stupid people actually BELIEVED THE BULLSHIT.

obama's coming to town in less than 2 hours and Hillary's been calling me all day ...4 calls, all anti-NAFTA based...she promised to appoint a Trade czar (my word) , and get Ohio back to work.
Bill called once, too...a few days ago.

craig?
any difference between an "empty suit" and a "stuffed shirt'?
A bitter old independent Brooklynite I listened to on a podcast called him that.

Personally , I like stuffed shirts. LOL!

In Rhode Island Hillary just said, that waving a magic wand will not solve America's problems..love it

Did I spell wand correctly?

I've seen a gazillion HRC and BO ads... vermont's primary is Mar 4

Jamie...Obama was a "street organizer" , helping in the community when I believe it was LTV Steel closed...

FWIW. Sidley Austin, the Chicago law firm where Michele mentored the young Obama, is in the top ten corporate contibutors to Obama. Of course we all know Obama is basically owned by BIG PHARM.

Dog's Eye

"And like it or not, that is how a lot of voters feel. You cannot change that fact. Secondly, the presidency is a bully pulpit. Inspirational speech is not a disqualification"

I'm actually fairly resigned to his winning the nomination. After GWB having a president who can string three words together will be a relief. What I am uncomfortable about is Obama's ability to speak from a core of knowledge, experience, and belief.

I had a long association with someone who made a good part of his income speaking followed by question and answer. It always amazed me that he answered all questions conversationally not with memorized lines. That is the kind of expertise I'm looking for in a President. It is why I admired Biden so much at the beginning.

Presidents need good speeches to encourage the public. They need knowledge and experience to do the job.

oh and Bear? I loved hitchhiker's guide.. was terrific!

Hillary keeps saying she will be ready to face all the tough issues facing this country beginning on "day one" in Jan. 2009. Why doesn't she start doing something about these issues NOW.

Last year, Hillary Clinton wrote a letter complaining that Bush needs to starting working on a exit plan from Iraq. 7 months ago, Obama convened a working group of his advisors to starting looking into this issue themselves.

This group included Samantha Power - who is one of
Obama's Foreign Affairs advisors:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samantha_Power

She's got a new book out:

http://us.penguingroup.com/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9781594201288,00.html

Hillary seems better at pointing out other people's flaws (and ignoring her own) - than she is at solutions.

dog...it was Fred and Lulu's. Now just a PEPSI sign and a Marlboro placard in an otherwise empty shell.
This is repugg country, dog.
And my local union was in Indiana. All the old time union guys I used to talk business with are dead. It was hitchhike or walk! Of course, the AMTRAK stopped here at about 2:00 AM and stopped in Toledo an hour or so later...but the Toledo AMTRAK station is no place to be sitting for 12 hours waiting to hear an empty suit speak.

Obama supporters sure seem to feel it is necessary to savage Hillary on a daily basis. Looks like they know this nomination fight is not over.

The more I listen to Obama, Mrs. Obama,and Obama supporters, the more it becomes that the new politics is a big public relations scheme.

If Obama and his worship brigad really believed he has this one won, they might attempt to appear to be gracious.

If Obama and his worship brigad really believed he has this one won, they might attempt to appear to be gracious.

brigade not brigad

Let's not even get started on Kyl-Lieberman.

Obama couldn't be bothered to show up.

jamie, I know you were for Biden...he was on with Stephanopulous , I think it was, this AM.
He is so "with it" on all subjects, I would wonder why he isn't the nominee already, except we both know , as Craig wrote here, the establishment gave us Obama.
I have my faves, to, and we all saw my man Dennis Kucinich be eaten-up like a scoop of caviar before the beef entree. I know you hated Gravel, but his idea ALL made sense.
Richardson would make a great president, and Edwards would have, too.
And we get a stuffed shirt in an empty suit who's only contact with 'the people" was in a small area , passing out bread on the South SIde of Chicago, years ago.

I bet Biden could be on Obama's cabinet. Maybe Sec. of State.

Larry Sinclair Allegations

"Dr. Ed Gelb, Former President of the American Polygraph Association was the Polygraph expert selected by Whitehouse.com. He has done over 30,000 polygraph examinations over his long career. There were two polygraph tests administered by Dr. Gelb on Friday. the first polygraph asked Mr. Sinclair on his sex claims. The second polygraph test asked Mr. Sinclair on the drug use claims. There was deception indicated in both tests.

It was our intention to get to the truth in this serious matter rather than have these allegations that were made almost a month ago drag on to election day. Due to the seriousness of this issue we made the results public today rather than waiting until Monday when we would have received the second expert's conclusions. When we receive the second expert's conclusions we will post those results as well."

http://whitehouse.com/

Dog,

Jamie: how is Obama sneaking by all these newspaper editorial boards of experienced skeptics?

That is a broad reach. Experienced skeptics? No such thing when their ideologies are one in the same.

I am afraid dog you are going to be very disappointed should Barry be elected POTUS.

warren,

I bet Biden could be on Obama's cabinet. Maybe Sec. of State.

Now that is funny.

Roses are red
Violets blue
I'm voting for Hillary
You should too!

oh look.. Gordo's back...

Forgot to paste that Audacity of Hope link

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1546298,00.html

Why Fry?

Have a nice day everyone. I'm going to drive over to beautiful Oregon coast for lunch.

dog,
Actually, Fry, my expectations are not that high,

They should be! If they were you would see through Barry's veil of mystique.

I do have a question for you. What is it that you think Barry will do that will have the most impact if elected to POTUS?

Okay. I just used the same search terms for both candidates since they are both attorneys.

HIllary Clinton pro bono
Barack Obama pro bono

That would be legal work done for an indigent plaintiff or a charitable organization Go ahead, search for yourself.

*Yawn*

Just attempted to read the except of - Audacity of Hope - I made though about seven paragraphs.....I had to quit because I found myself skipping words and hoping it would end.....

warren,

Why Fry?

Is that your initial attempt at poetry?

Oh you mean Biden. LOL
Well Sec. of State. You may want to have someone in that position who isn't suffering TMJ. Certainly Biden must be because as long as I can remember seeing him is teeth are always clenched tight. He always looks as though he wants to punch out someone. I think Biden would be better at DOD

BO came from a broken home.Was his mother wealthy?If not,how did he become so wealthy at such a young age?And who is the force behind him?Someone has been grooming him for a long time.His years in State senate were carefully excercised so as not to make any controversial votes that could be used against him.He wrote about his past so he could say it was off limits and old news and the media accepts this arguement..I think there is a powerful movement behind him and it is not grass roots.Could it be big business{he met with Bloomberg ]Or could iy be muslim,trying to destroy us from within.Or could it be more sinister.My religious friends tell me that some day the anti-christ will appear and will be treated like a rock star and the masses will follow him like sheep.Could Obama be DAMIAN!

lol

has he pulled that sword out of that big rock yet?

muslim? O.O

I have noticed that weird posts pop up whenever Gordo arrives..

Sheesh. I thought the Obama supporter at the Caucus who said we should vote for him because the bible promised seven years of plenty was just a shade delusional.

I may not think he will be a good president, but Anti-Christ ... probably not. :-)

Ruth,

See that is the problem with you. You are refusing to drink from the well of Obama. If you had all these questions would wiped away, and you would see Barry for what he is, God! I suggest you should start immediately, if not sooner, chanting the words, Obama...Obama...Obama. And you too will become a true believer.

Now, now, Doots....part of the reason Hillary was so maligned was because she WAS an involved participant as First Lady. She took body blows from pundits, cartoonists, editorialists and every oinker in the world for her work in those years.

Say what you will, but her speech to the 1995 World Conference of Women in Beijing, China re: women's rights was historic. Maybe the Obama people fall down in worship when he blows his nose, but when I heard her words on that day, I stood and applauded. For something real.

And as far as meaningful speech making, you show me a speech Mr. O has given that surpasses this one for worldwide attention, importance, substance and courage, -- and, as my old granny used to say, "I'll put in with 'ya."

The New York Times wrote:

Speaking more forcefully on human rights than any American dignitary has on Chinese soil, Hillary Rodham Clinton cataloged a devastating litany of abuse that has afflicted women around the world today and criticized China for seeking to limit free and open discussion of women's issues here. . .

Continuing with references to domestic violence, genital mutilation, coercive abortions and sterilizations, Mrs. Clinton told the delegates from more than 180 countries, "If there is one message that echoes forth from this conference, let it be that human rights are women's rights and women's rights are human rights, once and for all."

Jamie,

"Sheesh. I thought the Obama supporter at the Caucus who said we should vote for him because the bible promised seven years of plenty was just a shade delusional."

Can't say much about that other than at least they stated something other than the usual reply, "he represents hope and change". Asking Obama fans what they think is starting to sound like the old Dick Clark show American Bandstand. And Darleen how would you rate that record? "Well I give it a 86 has a nice beat, and words, something I could dance to".

Well I'm off to Target. I understand they have a special on bottled Obama water. Obama Obama Obama

I knew Andy Christ..........Andy Christ was a friend of mine......

Speaking of American Bandstand , a women I know at work was once on American Bandstand. She was one of the teenage kids dancing on the show. Nancy Sinatra was the musical guest that show. She sang "These Boots Are Made For Walking".

Ha.....I was watching American Bandstand once when the Monkees won band of the year and the Doors fans started a riot and they shut down the show......If I remember right......

I like your bringing up American Bandstand, Corey....It's what some here really want the dialogue to be about. Nothingness. This campaign reminds me of the film Nashville, where the recorded message keeps on rolling through town oever and over and over and over. I do believe that once Obamamania sweeps through the country we'll be as glassy eyed and complacent as when Reagan ruled. After all, the voice just keeps on saying its all going to be wonderful.

And in honor of Corey, who could very well be voted the nicest person here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OU7Nezg7Ls

Ya know.. when I think back on those years.. the monkees make me pretty happy.. while the doors remind me of black light basement parties where inevitably, someone ended up in tears.. hmmmm

Sturg and Horsepoop

I did not say I wouldn't post a "link "ever again. When I did post a link SEVERAL DAYS after my verbal exit, Shelia said she wouldn't read it until I identified what it was. That was about a week ago. At the time, others said to keep posting which was my "Diva" requirement. Since then, I have posted, I believe, three times, all of short length and to provide links. So you can take your remarks and, er well, .....

you know what I mean.

For the rational, the link I left, starting at the top of the linked thread, discusses the similarity of Obama to Carter and please Obamamaniacs, I'm hardly talking about the color or personality of the two preachy politicians. NAFTA is now all wrong?.....LOL Now there is a real coalition of Union and Free Marketers that the Clintons brought together along with Republicans. That is consensus building. Now because of failure to enforce the NAFTA conditions Obama is calling NAFTA bad, rather than promote rational reform. Such is the extremism of the pander Obaminator. And yes, GIVE more aid to South America, rather than open up markets. So, I wonder about Craig's suggestion.

The McGovern Wing is back in form. And Craig, again, I don't know if policy is something Obama should start talking about. Staying vague and MTVish is probably his best bet. A Wonkish review of his scattered declarations will only lead to shredding. The Second Coming is a better sell. SNL hit it in a nut shell.

Zappa went on the Monkees TV show......

I am off to bed... I will be glad when this damned primary season is over... Who knows? Maybe I'll toss a vote away on Nader. :-(

Thanks Tom! I wanted to find the full 14+ minute which is a golden slice of funk and social commentary , but here is the James Brown song "Talkin' Loud and Sayin' Nothing".

http://www.last.fm/music/James+Brown/_/Talkin%27+Loud+And+Sayin%27+Nothing?autostart

Here is a link of Cher doing a cover of James Brown's "It's a Man's World". I heard her talk about it once on NPR and she said it was a different interpretation and she didn't think her version was a "positive statement" as much as his was... I took that to mean that she was singing as a woman lamenting that it is a "man's world"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmYSnQh2eo4

Zappa still makes me smile.. god bless ya, sheik yerbuti!

There's been a fair amount of talk about how uplifting the Obama campaign has been and how his surrogates have been well mannered, etc.

I've contended that, in South Carolina, Mr. Obama's campaign was one of manipulation that cast the Clintons as the worst kinds of racists. Did they print these charges in their literature? No, it was more of a 'death by a thousand cuts' or, rather, 'death by a thousand whispers'.

The real, lasting, outcome was in other states and in our country as a whole.

The St Petersburg Times is regarded as one of the country's finest newspapers. Certainly it's the best newspaper in Florida.

After South Carolina, and on the Sunday before Florida's primary, here is how they, through their Editor of Editorials, characterized the Clintons in their lead editorial, "SLINGING SLIME IS WHAT CLINTONS DO BEST":

http://tinyurl.com/yva35l

That is why I'm so upset about how the primary has unfolded.

Enough - Best Song Contenders

Happy Working Song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KObgs81QyR4

So Close http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6FYz0kvRNU&feature=related

hmmm........what if a 4th party of Arch Conservatives opens up a run for the presidency..........wo......

That's How You Know

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRYU4cqUAUs

Falling Slowly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoSL_qayMCc

Raise It Up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwWvBcOW5G4

so maxtrue how are your gerbels and is it true that you still live in your mother's basement with your video games and computer?

FUMT

yo soy Horsedooty!

Trivia

Moon Unit Zappa is married to Paul Doucette of Matchbox 20 or at least she was in 2004.

did you catch the debate between Moon Unit and G. Gordon Liddy on SNL?

No but I bet that would have been fun. Amazed G. Gordon Liddy lightened up that much unless it was actors playing them.

no, it was Liddy and he was in with the spirit of it......Moon Unit did the "Valley Girl" and Liddy ended his final statement with the word, "Totally"

as goes American Samoa, so goes the nation......

An Eagle was soaring through the air when suddenly it heard the whizz of an Arrow, and felt itself wounded to death. Slowly it fluttered down to the earth, with its life-blood pouring out of it. Looking down upon the Arrow with which it had been pierced, it found that the shaft of the Arrow had been feathered with one of its own plumes. "Alas!" it cried, as it died,

"We often give our enemies the means for our own destruction."

----Aesop

Max....don't call my friend Doots "horsepoop." He is dooty, and that's Mr. Dooty to you, thank you very much.

or Dooty-erino if you're not into that whole brevity thing.....

And now for something completely relaxing....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS_q_DXIhVk&feature=related

Corey......Hey.....it worked......

Indian headress and boa constrictors ... nirvana :-)

All the pretty people in all their pretty formal clothes with all the pretty jewels are arriving in the middle of the afternoon hoping it doesn't rain on all their pretty hairdos ... The yearly break for mindless extravagance has begun.

You in the balcony may applaud........those of you in the front rows just rattle your jewelry.......

---John Lennon at Albert Hall

This is more my style of relaxing
Earl Scruggs and foggy mountain break down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icMTVV5Lwaw

Jack

Official Oscar site is closed for entries. The CNN site is open for another 15 minutes

http://www.cnn.com/ite

register

Make your picks and submit then go to

Group: One More Cow
Password: Crawford

do picks again

That will put you in for the prizes and for bragging rights in the group.

Sturgeone

How many holes does it take to fill the Albert Hall?

one, if it's big enough?

5000 holes in Blackburn, Lankeshire
Now they know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall

curses........foiled again.......

I love the Sergeant Pepper album. That line actually cause some sort of stir in England at the time with an aggravated agency who was supposed to be filling them instead of counting.

Well shout OW OO GAH Loud enough to be heard in DC.

I'm going to quickly broil a fish. Back in less than 10

Goddammit I tried to get registered and it took so fckng long for this damn thread to open up... sorry, I should be asleep, but I was not able to, and now I am frustrated. It's ok, I don't know the movies anyway

I just realized that post made very little sense... I am waiting for my allergy pill to knock me out.. Guess I'll go watch an episode of That Girl... Won't get much sleep and District Manager and his boss will be bugging me tomorrow.. urrrgggh, the downside of having a franchise.

to-da-loo

Inappropriate, yet funny video...

I want to be UNDER Barack Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Xb3bDwE9jQ

Michelle must love that one.

heheheheheh ... Hell I loved that one!!!

I have a question about the people who post here....have you ever met in person?

And how long has this Blog been going on?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOlYYw5TEqo

Jack,
As you're relatively new here, let me assure you that there are many here that think Earl Scruggs is *very* relaxing. The kind of relaxing where you are tapping your toes, clapping your hands and grinning ear to ear.

A few years that I know of probably longer because there were regulars around when I popped in. A group of us got together in Vegas about 2 1/2 years ago. Others have bumped into each other in twos or threes if they happened to be in the same city.

Burrito,
"I have a question about the people who post here....have you ever met in person?"

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

and then there is me in Belgium and I don't see myself bumping into any of the other Crawford listers... Who are the original participants?

Thanks for the info......

you know a little off subject topic...when AOL first stared I was in a group that actually hosted parties across the US, and people would fly in to meet each other . Various places.

It was always so wild to put the people with the chat....Funny sometimes, other times, really shocking!

That's the best thing about Vegas...I love it....however...perhaps a cocktail or two, or 3 or 4 and the stories....may just find some light

well it looks like 4 hours sleep for me
I am going now
grrrr... wish me luck with the managers... I get just drained when they show up... I am going to try to encourage them to leave early!

Have fun Oscars fans...
If I were in the states I would be GLUED to the TELLY

ET You probably aren't safe. There are a few who sometimes get to other parts of the world.

Craig had a speaking engagement in Vegas so we used that as an excuse to fly in for lunch as a group and cocktails one evening plus Blue and I went to see Cirque du Solleil's LOVE with all the Beatles music. Great Show!

What happened to Joan Rivers red carpet show...I actually liked it.

Night night sweet dreams give you a rundown tomorrow.

She got fired from the big gig. I think she got picked up by some minor cable station ... The insult bit was getting very old for me.

Cotillard was wonderful in La Vien Rose

You know when you are an aging rock star and you mess up, they blame it on "prior" drugs, and when your anyone else, they say you are losing "it. "

It's like a free pass.

OOOps, I said "free pass".......I might be a racists now....

I'm at the stage of delayed memory. Had to change what I was typing above to the name of the movie because I couldn't remember Edith Piaf as the role while typing the message.

I am starting with a missing memory, so as I age more, it's going to get ultra ugly....

But my philosophy is, live in the moment so the past doesn't matter, plus I have friends that can fill me in and they feel so superior when they do....

Life is a ride.....look back too often and you miss Now. : )

Dixie Carter looks good.

Burrito

If you have a blog, you need to put that in your bottle to send around the world

http://jdurward.blogspot.com/2008/02/message-in-bottle-meme.html

I love the conections in youtube,From Earl Scruggs to The Band

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPrpaJ4xXVg

Jack

And I had to go and break up with the one actor I dated BEFORE the awards. Dumb dumb dumb :-)

Julie Christie has always been an activist.

Orange ribbons to close Guantanamo

burrito,
"Life is a ride.....look back too often and you miss Now. "

The past is a canceled check.
The future is a promissory note.
But today is a gift. That's why they call it the present.

Life is too important to be taken seriously.

Jame,
wow that was dumb....the break up thing..... : (

If I had l known you then, I would have advised against that move. : )

Not only the Oscars, but the 50th Anniversary .... You would think I could have put up with him for another 30 days!

I have had huge pc problems...which is a good thing because I started reading and whether print or internet or cable/tv, I think everyone is getting their say and fill of politics. We still have over eight months until the election. I am glad Jamie is talking about movies. I have been watching In Treatment on HBO. Nice diversion.

ouch, yeah

But on the other hand, sometimes even one minute longer can be the difference between life and death...............

I am sure you made the right choice.

He was actually quite nice. I used to call him the Welsh Pirate. It just wasn't going anywhere and something else was. :-)

Last heard from doing Broadway minor roles and directing small theater.

I haven't seen it. Having a grandson, I've seen the other two.

That was an incredible transformation and I loved the movie.

He's being nice this evening. That was just a bit of snark. :-)

Enough with the WRAP IT UP music! Oy!

Have a handkerchief.

It's for the pocket of your Tux

Nice to get an Oscar for a movie that flopped miserably.

A theory about the elections was suggested to me today. What think y'all?

This is the theory posited: The men in suits behind the scenes of the Democratic Party are tipping the scales in favor of Obama because they want a man in the office and don't care what the color of his dick is. Obama can beat McCain because he has less baggage than Hillary. When Obama wins, the men in suits will run the show and control Barack, and he will become a puppet. The men in suits have never tried to control a woman as President and don't want to deal with that fearing that they won't be able to.

Also asked: What's happened to the white supremacists and all their variants? Nary a word has been heard from them.

http://patterns2.blogspot.com/

tt

COREY

Please e-mail me at:

tiptoe221@hotmail.com

Thank you.

tt

Javier Bardem was the expected win. I kinda hoped it would be Casey Affleck

Wow! That little girl has one whale of a voice!!

She was unbelievable!

It didn't escape my notice. I just don't automatically see evil motives. She asked what we thought of the theory, not that the theory was her own. There has been an ongoing discussion as to which was most alive and well: Racism or Sexism

That was just part of the continuing discussion.

It was between her and Tilda and Cate had won before ... typical Oscar think.

Okay , I'm off to work. Play nice , people. Let me know if I win any Oscars. Thanks.

I'm a huge Cate Blanchett fan and thought after winning the Golden Globe she had it in the bag - but I've also been a big Tilda fan for years as well (in fact only went to see the first Elizabeth because I thought it was Tilda...but ended up loving Cate- she should have won the Oscar for that). Saw Michael Clayton the other day and can say Tilda was great - deserved it. She underrated as an actress.

Jamie - you're probably right but Tilda won the BAFTA too and was really great in Michael Clayton...maybe Cate will pull out a surprise and win Best Actress?? I know long shot.

......and from my point of view the man is really not black at all...I do not believe he was raised in the "black" experience....which may mean nothing at all, but it is one thing to actually "be" something, and another to "claim" it.

Not trying to piss anyone off, just an observation.

Wendy - Another BAFTA fan - I always get them on BBC America to get an idea of what British films I need to hunt down.

One question -

not sure if anyone's mentioned it already - too many posts to go through, but why did Barack suddenly drop 'folkes' in the debate? he didn't say it once, yet in every other debate it was 'folkes this' and 'folkes that' - where'd all the folkes go??

econsmed,

Not all decisions are made public......

I prefer not to argue points that are just untrue. Poor poor Barack..he suffered so because the color of his skin....the only suffering he speaks about ( in his own words) is that he was not all black and not all white... don't make stuff up.

Cotillard was wonderful. She was the one I wanted and I expected it to go to Julie Christie.

" it is true there are angels in this city"

That was the best thing i have heard in years......I love LA

I imagine he did it because if was becoming a noticeable verbal habit and anyone who is good at speaking analyzes their appearances to eliminate that sort of thing.

Now if we could get McCain to stop saying "My Friends"

I am going to see McCain in the morning....he is actually coming to my small town. Pop. approx 20K....I have seen every other candidate so far...so this will be very interesting. All my friends say, "get a picture of his wife."

I think that is funny.

Sadly, most people I know are really out of the political loop.

They will vote the way GMA tells them to vote, or Oprah, or their church....or their brother in law- ----- you get the picture

Renae looks great.

Jamie,
I don't think you are a racist, I know that when I read what you post you never have those kind of tones or thoughts included. I mean really, I have not been here too long, but "racists" is not a label I would ever stick on you.

Stop wasting your breath with that other one. If "he" really thinks you are a racists as he said, then I would have to believe he does not want to know you or listen to you.

Funny you spend a great deal of time "qualifying" the life experience of others you have never met and know nothing about. Your opinion is God never to be altered by anything resembling facts or reality.

And yes, you are constantly that egotistic, smug, and riddled with covert and overt antagonism.

Look You two,

I have read and reread and reread....All of the posts. And I am Apalled by your

Insensitivity......I am shocked at WHAT you don't get....

take a second look....

I can't believe you could not at least know in your stomach that this conversation was going over the line.

Then what are you trying to do?

What are you trying to do with your countless attacks on people who post here, only to be impaled by you caustic tones and lack of understanding?

I mean really, why can't you just be civil?

Is that too high of a ground for you?

Please explain, as it would be of interest to all here.

And if there was good reason, for your "assholeness" , I am sure we would all support you.

Jack.....Eloquent....So very eloquent. Thank you so much!

What line is that the line that Barack , himself speaks about in his book?

I don't care if he is considered purple, the fact is he did not grow up in the "African-american" life. My point was nothing more then that.

There is an old saying....I think it is "racist"......one bad apple can spoil the whole bunch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc4eYOhNnU8

Sheila
Speaking of ethnicity, Barack and I have a lot in common, we were both raised by mothers from Kansas. Who knows we might even be kin, both of them were from the Kansas/Oklahoma border area.

Jack

"the fact is he did not grow up in the "African-american" life."-ub

So What!, You're suggesting he 'claimed' he did? I don't think that's accurate.

Sheila,

Those things could not be more public that him writing and speaking about them himself. He has written two books. He has given interviews. It is all part of who he is and if you will really read what I wrote, I said it was to his credit that he sought out that experience.

Why in the world should I not write in public what he has written and said in public. If he were in any way ashamed of it, I'm sure he wouldn't have said it himself.

I think that BO has identified himself with the African-American population of America. However, I believe that he is half white and half black. Nothing more nothing less.

So if that means that he can't hale a cab I am sorry, but in reality, he has had more opportunities then most.

He had a better education, he had an extended family that believed in the importance of education. He had someone there when his father ditched him.

If you do not think that that is important to our American families then you are the ones that miss the point.

Jamie,

Please stop twisting in the wind. Please try and understand how you are being read.

at least 50% of the members new and old glad hand to freely on statements that are seriuosly insentive at the very least and VERY cleaverly, I might say, subtley racist.

Where did you all learn this? Where did you all learn that its OK to talk incessintly about ever little detail entailing a man's skin color and whether he deserves to be called something. Whether he deserves to be apart of the "Experience".....

You are one of the smartest women I know. I know you recognise it. I'm just not certain why you are allowing this to carry on. You are an example for all here.

Signing off for a bit.

Wendy

La Vien Rose is completely in French so be sure you get one that is subtitled.

The music is all Edith Piaf's recordings that she lip synched. She got the speaking voice, look and mannerisms perfectly.

The film is blurry, but it will give you an idea of just how well cotilliard captured her

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFRuLFR91e4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-sUzR71wpQ&feature=related

He had a better education, he had an extended family that believed in the importance of education. He had someone there when his father ditched him.

If you do not think that that is important to our American families then you are the ones that miss the point.

Posted by: unlikely_burrito | February 24, 2008 11:35 PM

Before i go. Montel Williams has had one of the best educations too. He's even more visually known that most person's of Color.

Even HE has been stopped more than once for driving his JAG because he was just some black guy driving an expensive car. he has been handcuffed and taken to the station and roughed up until they figured out who he was....and all for being a "Rich Guy" out for a drive in his car.

Burrito, you have no earthly idea, what this Privileged Black Candidate has experienced in this life. Does he have to wear THAT on his sleeve too?

Insensitive.

As a fan of yours via Don Imus I find your desription of Barack Obama troubling.

You say boring. I say exciting. Are you a Hillary supporter?

John McCains delivery on speeches is as dry as a burnt piece of toast with no butter.

Mr. Crawford: Next time I listen to you on "Imus in the Morning" I will remember what you just said. And you best defend your position.

Actually Shelia, you are correct. I have no idea what Barack has had to experience in his life....But I can whole heartedly say, by going to private high schools, ivy league colleges, he has had an advantage that most Americans do not experience, no matter what their color of their skin.

If you want to argue with me about whatever , please be clear, so that I can answer appropriately.

......and from my point of view the man is really not black at all...I do not believe he was raised in the "black" experience....which may mean nothing at all, but it is one thing to actually "be" something, and another to "claim" it.

Posted by: unlikely_burrito | February 24, 2008 9:46 PM

Ok, There is is Burrito. Insensitive.

Now I would add that in order to give the rest of us the ability to "Accurately" debate your own words with you. I'd like LINKS next time.

Show me how this statment is not "insensitive'

Really to bed now. Good Night...

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png

Wow , I never knew speaking my opinions, and/ or facts would lead to such theatrics.

Shelia, how black are you ? do you have more "black " relatives then I do? Do you assume I am white? 100%? Or maybe is it at all possible, that I have some life experience to back up my opinions?

Oh another thing, you want links to my personal opinions....wtf

get over yourself.

And The Winner Is

BEAR with 12 Correct

Then "Entry" whoever that was: 10

Jamie, Julia, and Harborwoman: 9

here's the best link I have found, after watching all but one hour of The Oscars. It's a great wrap-up for the night...

http://theenvelope.latimes.com/awards/oscars/

It isn't my theory and I'm not "Entry".

tt

Here is an excellent review of "Dreams of My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance by Barack Obama

http://books.google.com/books?id=4xigAQAACAAJ&dq=Barack+Obama&hl=en&prev=http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS211US212&q=Barack+Obama+books&sa=X&oi=print&ct=result&cd=1&cad=author-navigational

Even the germans know obama is going to be a dissapointment he is promising to much (der speigel)that is pretty bad that germany knows he has no substace!.

I refuse to fight with you people, it is counter productive to anything in my life. Thank you to those who continually respect each other, you allow to me believe there is still souls out there who want to learn from each other, even if they think differently.

You are the people who will be making things better.

The rest of you go to hell, because you are, in essence, the root of all the problems in the world.

"Life is too short to spend with the likes of you"

WTH's Germany got to do with anything??

tt

49:48 Here's the video , complete speech, Barack Obama, Savage Hall, U. of T., Toledo, Ohio, yesterday. On the right of the page there's a window to click to access the video. 9,000 people showed up.
In Bowling Green , just a few minutes down I-75, Bill Clinton filled half a room .

The 9,000 was a full house, BTW. The people were nuts for Obama..he's the darling of the masses.

http://www.wtol.com/

I just watched th entire speech. He's right about NAFTA, and how HRC was in the White House when Bill championed NAFTA. Gore was for it too. Our UAW local team was outraged...I wanted to believe that if Bill said it really was a good thing, it had to be...but that was wishful thinking.
Now, of course, HRC distances herself from all that, and in those calls I got today, she promises to end NAFTA.
And hey, I AM glad BO will end the war...but also I do not buy his voting for war every chance he gets . He just totally blows off talking about that.
Ignorant folks think he will be weak on defense....that is wrong...he's committed to keeping the Pentagon well-stocked with munitions, rest easy if you think he's any kind of peace candidate...he is not.
Also, a very young crowd there at Toledo...kids can't vote and college kids traditionally don't vote...we'll see how it plays out.

What obama did was lie about nafta again, and he's a phony. You people are allowing a very very dangerous person to take over your minds with his preaching and rhetoric. Do some research. Wake the hell up before it's too late. He's a preacher selling his ministry with no specifics. He's been caught on numerous lies but the media refuses to investigate the truth about this guy. They let him get away with anything and everything. Are you serioulsy going to jeopardize this country again for a guy you "like"? Are you really going to do this without deep investigation of this guy?

You are WRONG about NAFTA. An independent group investigated his claims and found them to be false.

He as voted FOR every bill for the war Bush asked for.

He will NOT end the war any sooner than any Dem had offered.

He will NOT get his health care passed (check the experts who compared all the programs)

He deserted the Illnois Vets and had the 2nd worst record for his desertion of committee responsiblities and attendance at meetings (he missed more than 50% of the mtgs ) yet he touts this in his rhetoric that he cares so deeply.

Look at this one:
Obama's record on the Senate Foreign Relations committee
Doubts about Barack Obama's presidential credentials have crystallized during the past two weeks over his stewardship of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's Subcommittee on European Affairs, which has convened no policy hearings since he took over as its chairman last January. That startling fact, first uncovered by Steve Clemons, who blogs on the Washington Note, prompted acid comment in Europe about the Illinois senator's failure to visit the continent since assuming the committee post, and even speculation that he had never traveled there except for a short stopover

Are yo seriously going to jeopardize this country based on someone who turned you into a zombie just like the bush sheep?

Louis Farrahkan is openly backing him too along with a lot of dangerous controversial other people.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jsH788z7q8_B5BpcOtdkCK0IwN5wD8V11KQO0

This is ok with you that he go completely uninvestigated?

That answers my question. You do, indeed.