Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

So a false win for McCain, Huckster in a distant 3rd, so victory for Mitt and HRC?

That is an interesting consideration. It would play well with the typical NH contrarian attitudes. Will you have the numbers on how the Independents split later?

Don't know if I'm buying that one, yet. I think NH has as many independants as it does because of all the hype about how independents decided the past few elections (technically they are going to vote they they would if they were registered with one party or the other). I could be totally off base but that's my thoughts on it.

Not much going on tonight so here is a link to German Der Spiegel... comments on the race of interest

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,527370,00.html

Yes it is the english version

Craig,

If Hillary does win in NH, do you think Obama will still get the Nevada union endorsement tomorrow?

Is this the start of the Dem love fest:?

http://www.abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=4102345

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/Brazile_on_Bill_Depressing.html

Will Obama be HC's VP? I never thought Gore would be Clinton's VP, and Obama will never tolerate being confined to the EOB like Gore was.

Jamie,

"If Hillary does win in NH, do you think Obama will still get the Nevada union endorsement tomorrow?'

Nevada is another meaningless state. What you should be looking at is FL & CA to see their reaction to a HC win tonight. HC currently leads in both states, a win should push those numbers up, but if they stay flat that could be bad news for her.

Another Tweety ant hill moment.

If women vote for Hillary it is out of "sympathy". The idea that we might actually believe she would make a better president just can't get through that cement forehead.

Doesn't that mean that we voters are an awfully timid lot, Craig? I don't know....

JennBe....
I am a NHerite....
and a lot of us are independents(myself included) because we don't like labels.... we don't like others telling us what to do or think....
if I had to register in a party in order to be able to vote in a primary, I would register as a Democrat..... but I don't have to and I won't....

and I don't care what anyone else thinks about that.....

Craig.... I think your analysis is off base.....
I still say that most independents up here lean one way or the other..... those that lean right took Republican ballots and those that lean left took a Democratic one......

Having given up cigarettes and exit polls, i'll let others figure out the demographics of this suprising night. but you gotta wonder if a lot of women got really pissed at all the hillary bashing in the last few days -- as so well expressed by our own Jamie right here on an earlier post

LOLOL @ Another Tweety ant hill moment. and cement forehead!!!

gotta fire up the crutches and head to the studio. y'all have fun now

You, too Hobblelong!

Thank you Craig. :-) Since I wouldn't want to interfere with your well deserved income stream, you don't actually have to pass it along.

Of course there is the old plea from a prisoner of the Indians in the wild west:

Do anything you want to me, but don't give me to the women!

Renee I take your word for it. I do agree with you on the leaning one way or another and taking the corresponding ballot, sorry Craig.

R.R.
I understand exactly what you are saying. When I lived in Tennessee, I was an independent. There really was no value to being a memeber of a party. I leaned Dem so when I moved to Iowa I registerd Dem for the first election. We haved a very active state and county party so I am definitiely a Dem.

Craig,
I think you and Jamie might be right. I know it was the final tipping point for me to support Hillary. The bashing was and remains blatant. I am tired of the double standard.

Well...I have to say that Tweety is finally beginning to piss me off...he's spinning, spinning, spinning...just said that women drive the Dem party, and are primarily interested in healthcare and other such issues.

I won't make a prediction because mine always seem to be wrong....but here is a question.....what the hell is it with "pundits" who are saying that John Edwards is dead? The rationale is that when voters feel support for their candidate go, they exit as well...

I've never ONCE bailed on a candidate! I've stayed until the last dog is hung.....oh, apologies to Huckabee's parenting skills.....

Rachel Maddow says people are crediting Tweety with the HRC surge....LOL

Elizabeth Edwards is such a beautiful woman. He's good, but she is really the best half of that team.

Patsi,

You're like me. I didn't bail on Biden until he left the fray and then went to my number two and I've been in a lot of empty banquet rooms staring at TV sets while they swept up the broken balloons.

I am telling you...this is our best chance to have anyone, other than a white male, as president. This is the "perfect storm".

Even those people who feel unsure about voting for a woman, can vote for Hillary, knowing that if she starts to cry, in the White House(you know, like if she breaks a nail or something...)big, ole Bubba will be there to watch her back, take her hand and guide her through any crisis(of course, I am being sarcastic).

I love this from MSNBC:

Buchanan. "Press has been telling us Obama is the second coming- the pollsters were dead wrong!"

Rachel Maddow- Says it's because of Chris MATTHEWS! TWEETY DID IT!!!

Thank Yous to Tweety- TPM says he did it for our girl

What is the site that RMaddow mentioned...I missed it.

Chris really looked as if he just didn't understand why TPM commenters and Maddow would say such a thing about him. It's a little like the racist who says, "some of my best friends are black". Chris just doesn't seem to realize how horribly he talks about women.

Linda,

Over on TPM some of the women were saying that the reason the women turned out for Hillary in NH was because of Tweety being so anti-female and really unfair to Hillary.

Ok, full disclosure, I'm a Rebublican but I love a good race just as much as the next person. My thoughts are that the Clinton machine had way better internal info than Obama and they have just been letting this play out all day.

John Edwards is still my candidate of choice...EDWARDS FOR PRESIDENT!!!...but I am really enjoying watching these guys get turned on their heads....

that was a very good speech from Edwards....

Jamie..... I agree with dnd.... who has said that if it was Elizabeth running, she'd be the frontrunner.....

I LOVE Rachel Maddow.....

NBC news projects HRC the winner!

Chris sounds like he is sickened by Hillary's victory :(

HIGH FIVE girls....... HIGH FIVES!!!!

Well Msgoobama just called it for Hillary.

JennBe

Welcome. The place needs more Republicans.
If you want to be on the map (on the left under Blogroll), you need to pick Red (conservative) or Purple (Moderate) dot .

Night night folks. Rehash tomorrow. Have a good rest of the day.

Just like in the sports world...

...any given Sunday, baby!!!

JennBe...I don't think so...I think what we saw from both the Clintons was genuine frustration and concern. But this night is handing us a fascinating turn of events, isn't it?

Welcome to the list! Many of us are independents...and pretty much all of us are happy to talk with folks of all political stripes.

I think I will have to disagree with Craig as well. Registered Republicans are about 37% of the voters, that's roughly about the amount of votes they are splitting right now, looks like the Indies went Dem in huge numbers which ius what I saw our precinct this AM

my spelink is atroshus

wow I sure can clear a room

CNN is not calling the race yet. They think there are precincts that went for Dean in 2004 that haven't reported yet.

Thanks for the welcome guys!!! I'm definately a moderate Republican, probably close to being a Libertarian. I tried the map but it appears to be down for right now or at least the place where you tell it what you are. I'm in Tallahassee, FL.

hiya JennBe, I'm the guy to tell. Do you have a website or a blog you want to link to?

PS welcome

CNN just called it. Woo Hoo.

Thanks Ran. No blog to link, though, well I have one but it is more of the soccer mom look at my cute kids type of thing, LOL

CNN agreees with Craig about the Indies but those numbers don't mesh. If McCain and Romney got 66% of the Indies they would have more votes then both Clinton and Obama

I don't think we have a rule against that JennBe

I'll add you to the map probably tomorrow but it might be tomorrow night.

Thanks again. Y'all have a good night!

ran...while you are at the map, will you change my name from Linda to LushIsLinda, since I am going to stick with this one!!

LushIsLinda: gotcha

what studio is Craig heading off to? is he going to be on the teevee?

yes, ran...on MSNBC @ 11pm

**or after Obama and Hillary give their speeches :)

Obama needs to wrap it up...LOL!!

okay you are officially LushIsLinda

the Dems speeches are much better than the Reps speeches tonight

Well, there went the need for my Hillary 2.0 plan....

I was going to suggest she get Harold Ford Jr. to become her running mate, and announce it about a week prior to the SC primary....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Ford_Jr.

I know he came out for Obama early, but haven't seen him anywhere, is the chairman of the DLC, and would certainly blunt Craig's notion that Clinton could be known as the person who denied the first black the chance to be the party's nominee for President (abet it might postpone things until 2012).

thank you, ran :)

don't cry, Hillary....don't give Chris a reason...

Chris needs a reason?

if she loses he can make fun of her, if she wins he can make fun of her, it's all win-win for that sorry excuse for a journalist and human being

Of course you are right, ran.

You know, I have always been a fan of CM, but after watching him tonight, I am so disappointed that he can't seem to hide his frustration with tonight's results.

Is it that he really does not like Hillary...or...is he upset that he called it wrong?

He really doesn't like Hillary, or Bill either.

Note the stark contrast between the staging for Clinton tonight and that of Iowa. No Bill and his Cabinet in the background. Only younger supporters, primarily women this time around...

Chris Matthews single handedly drove me from TV news, not just his show but everybody eles's show too, I guess I should thank him.

any other new folks want to join up with our map, I haven't been here in a while so maybe I missed some folks.

you can e-mail

mapkeeper at isleofran dot org

and tell me your nickname

dot color( we have a lovely assortment of red, blue or purple)

city\town\village\burg\

blog or a persoanl web site

Cris Matthews is such a pig he simply cannot even give Hillary one kudo....

What tonight's results allow me to feel is relief. There's no need to rush to get to know Obama, no reason to coronate Clinton. We truly can be a thoughtful voting public, and can take our time to listen to these candidates and decide who will lead us out of the mess Bush and his cronies have made into something that makes more sense and allows all of us to feel a greater degree of participation and control. It may be one of them, but it may not. I'm jusst relieved to have breathing roon, and to not have the decision made so quickly by the people of only two states.

I was just about to write the same thing as Tom Brokaw just said. Clnton and Obama will both be stronger candidates after these two tests. The field is winnowing and the messages are being honed. Going into Tsunami Tuesday should be vey interesting.

Craing better come on soon. ..Howard Fineman is being obnoxious. It is all Obama all the time.

The story of the night to me, in addition to HRC "come back" victory, is the shear idiocy of looking at polls in the weeks and days before an election like NH.

Between the Independent voter and the use of cell phones, it was impossible for any polling group to acurately predict the outcome of this election. Tom Brokaw has it right: Analysts should spend more time on candidates' issue positions and less time analyzing the latest polls. NOT ONE POLL predicted tonight's outcome on the Democrats side of the election.

Now, I'm hoping for a lot of split decisions from the upcoming primaries to pave the way for a brokered Democratic convention in August. Run, Al, Run!!!

ran,
what map?

nannymm...I don't know if ran is still here. The "Map to the Stars" is on the "blogroll" link(on the left of this page).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEqcHE5edM8

to the moon

damn...the MSNBC coverage continues...I need to make some popcorn and get comfy on the couch!!

I'm gonna go nuts if I keep hearing not so subtle references to racism in NH- so far Obama is behind by 2%- he won all the college areas in checking out the cnn map-a week ago Hillary was clearly ahead here, but her sizable lead had slipped.

I will be interested in the final numbers and how many new voters-

Two hours past bedtime, my two theories about the polls- 1. they showed Obama so far ahead, that people felt he did not need their support (I know one person this was a fact for) and
2. though Hillary was not my top candidate, I would support her (didn't vote for her)- and I hated the stuff on her lately- especially the she's so yesterday Herald cover- just plain mean.

MSNBC's coverage sucked tonight.

I was going to subscribe to the Nation until I watched Katrina Vandenhuvel? make a jackass of herself. There were too many technical glitches and it doesn't bode well for Messrs. Williams and Russert, when you need Tom Brokaw to come back and basically tool them for forgetting their job as reporters is to report first. Tweety seemed like he was ready to sulk off to timeout.

Where is Tucker doing all of this? Is he still employed?

Since when did CNN hire Ralph Reed to be an analyst? Did Abramoff give him a reference for the job?

Tucker is on MSNBC right now.

It is your fault Bear. As soon as you asked about Tucker he reared his ugly head.

whew!! what a night!! that was so exciting... and I'll say it again..about polls.. in the words of Dr. Gregory House: "Everybody lies."

I learned two things tonight.. Altho I've always thought my husband and I thought similarly.. i learned tonight that we indeed have a gender gap in this house. The second thing I learned is: he's not as much of a pig as Chris Matthews is. But then, who is?

hey all, that was weird. sat in front of a camera down here for an hour, and then they lost the satellite. but did hear obama and clinton speeches -- did she ever mention barack? must have, but i didn't catch it

Mr Tylenol decided he wanted to see Jon Stewart and since he's the one with the remote... besides..guess who Stewart had on?? David Frum... Mr. "Axis of Evil" himself! We love to sit at home and make fun of him. What a maroon. What did ya think of the result craig?

at the very end of the speech she talked about all the Democratic candidates and how wonderful they are
she lumped by tier and the dearly departed
so she put Obama and Edwards together

I did pick Clinton to win NH

I'm glad she won... Have the convention dates been set yet? anyone know when they're scheduled?

my earlier post: "...maybe Craig was posting about journalists like Matt Taibbi (Rolling Stone) who this morning on Imus's show said we can already stick a fork in Hillary...."

So what is Mr. Wise-Ass Taibbi saying now, sayeth the inquisitor.
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Sturgee...if I was there I could find The Citadel blindfolded.
I used to be in that general area when the Riverdogs played in the old ballpark before they moved over by the Cooper River.
Every time we tried to tour The Citadel, it was closed to the public. Say hi to old McCain for me, in the form of the old Bronx Cheer.
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Mrs. Clinton looked wonderful tonight on the stage...none of the fierce bags under the eyes like Bill has ... must be his allergies...his nose is discolored like W.C. Fields' nose.
Maybe he has roscacea.
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I thought Obama had the lock on the youngsters? Haven't seen the breakdown yet but she thanked the "young people."
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So it's a half-win for me...my #3 horse beat my #4 pony.
A chocolate covered cherry cordial candy in "celebration"
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You regulars know I am an Evan Bayh fan. Craig reported here eons ago that Bayh was considered " a lightweight inside The Beltway."
Being a native Hoosier, and a Young Democrat in the 1960's, I met both Birch Bayh and Evan, many years apart.
As a teen I fetched Sen. Birch Bayh a Fresca, and as a union officer I was called up on stage at a rally in South Bend by Governor Evan Bayh, just before the 1992 elections. Evan was impressed by our cheering and 3 of us went up for photos at the height of the rally. My big day.
Anyway, JennBe said that Evan had little "upstairs."
That is total bullshit.
Check out his record as governor of Indiana. He left the state at surplus and was the most popular Democratic governor of Indiana since Matthew Welsh in the early 1960's.
It's not easy to get elected to the US Senate as an Indiana Democrat, either. But Evan Bayh did.

you go, Dex! :)

tylenol

The Democratic Convention is around 8/28 in Denver

Well Folks,

As far as I'm concerned The United States Wins Again!

KGC.. do you happen to know if the Reprobates go before or after the dems?

tylenol: here's the denver info: aug 25--28

http://www.denverconvention2008.com/

thanks dex

The Reprobates are after
9/1-4 At the Larry Craig Amusement Park

oh crap...now msgobama is trying to say the people in NH are secret racists

Scratch that..just googled.. sept 1 in st-paul..

tylenol: Minneapolis, September 1--4

http://www.gopconvention.com/

LMAO KGC.. Larry craig..damn..spit my drink again..gotta mop up

yes...it is actually across the Mizz-Sipp River in downtown St. Paul.

"The Republican Party could not have found a better venue for the 2008 Republican National Convention than the Xcel Energy Center. Ideally situated in downtown Saint Paul, Minnesota, the Xcel Energy Center is a world-renowned facility that plays host to more than 150 events each year."

is there some rule somewhere that the party 'out of power' has to go first? so much better to have one's convention second

I've been chasing Craig around for days. At last an explanation. Thought it was my being off + or - and hour due to having been in another time zone.

At least the pundits are saying that the pundits can't predict anything.

Both Obama's & Hillary's speeches were good, IMHO.

There now seems to be a certain excitement about this hourse race, finally.

Now, if only they, any of 'em, could do what they say they wanna do.

tt

eprof2 -- "NOT ONE POLL predicted tonight's outcome on the Democrats side of the election. "

MANCHESTER, NH – On the strength of independent and young voters, Barack Obama has opened up a five-point lead over Hillary Rodham Clinton, according to a 7NEWS/Suffolk University two-day rolling average tracking poll released today. The flow of these voters to Obama is a dynamic that mirrors Iowa’s Democratic Caucus.

In the Democratic Primary, Obama (39 percent) leads Clinton (34 percent), John Edwards (15 percent) and Bill Richardson (4 percent). Eight percent were undecided.

http://www.suffolk.edu/offices/20580.html#anchor26063

Jjust found their internals...More analysis coming...

I don't know how they decide, It's a good questions though. The gap between the Dems and the goopers in 2004 was long and favored the goopers.

It's fitting that the repugg party be held five minutes from the I-35W bridge disaster area.
I'd love to see old McCain up on stage pledging to "keep US troops in Iraq for 100 years! !", in the shadow of the best horrible example of crumbling infrastructure this nation offered-up last year.
Did yas see the reports of how street light are being erected in Fallugia, Iraq?
The I-35W collapse is a harbinger of worse infrastructure blow-ups...the nation needs funds for replacing many bridges, and shoring up even landmark bridges like The Brooklyn Bridge.
But old McCain, delusionary damn old fool, wants to keep Bush's madness stretching into an endless future. And he may be the nominee, if he really takes off and defies those who hate him in his own party.

A friend visited New Orleans over the holidays..first time there for him since Karina.
He told me he was totally unprepared for what he saw on his drive into the city.
Massive obvious damage still untouched...hundreds he saw sleeping under bridges and under benches...he got the feeling that Bush just walked away form much needed rebuilding of New Orleans.
And yet we let maniacs like Bush and McCain push our noses into the muck of Iraq. It is disgraceful!

best laughs I had all night was when they were all discussing McCain's speech.. pretty entertaining..

best laughs I had all night was when they were all discussing McCain's speech.. pretty entertaining

they trashed him pretty good jeez leave the old guy alone...had to be way past his bedtime

haha KO nearly busted a gut.. (well i did too for that matter)

NBC continues to try to be the news instead of reporting it. Russerts load of crap announcement about the Culinary Workers endorsement should be called out for the baloney that it is. He just made crap up and then tried to back out of,

They did the same thing last week with the vote swaping and who was dropping out.

and just who were these people "inside the Clinton campaign" who were ready to bolt? I'm tellin ya, if I were Hillary, I'd be kickin some butt tonight!

I wouldn't believe anything I heard on tv from those clowns. All the rumors came from the liar Joe Trippi

kATY cRACK: I thought of you when Fat Timmy was backin' down the hall saying "it wasn't ME that said the sky is falling."
Yep, Culinary Workers don't cotton t' big mouth pundits.

" She has been a whore for the war from the get go."

Bear....I can only hope you were just being a smartass with that comment.

Hillary is kicking butt again. Tim Russert said last night's upset of Obama (he was WAY ahead in all polls ...except one that had him a 1% fave)...was "the greatest upset IN UNITED STATES POLITICAL HISTORY!"
Obama's "outreach" to Iran reminds me of a marching ditty from Basic Training:

A yellow bird
A yellow bill

Was perched upon
My window sill.

I lured him in
With crust of bread.

AND THEN I STOMPED HIS
...
(blankin') HEAD !!

Hey Dex
What do you think will happen in Ohio?

strange thing was the lack of signs here in the Valley. Usually see signs everywhere before an election but I don't think I saw 15 signs and that's traveling about 30 miles round trip.

how was the sign thing around southern NH?

wonder what, if any, effect Bill Clinton had here after his visit Sunday.

Nite all.. i'm all in.. see ya tomorrow..

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Now I must say this....I am thrilled that Hillary won. But I also believe there is an almost cult-like Obama freight train headed her way. And watch for the media to now start saying that the Democrats have split between women and blacks.

Hi All-

I have read some comments concerning the reason why women voted in favor of Hillary-- mainly that women were angry by the treatment that she received by the press and other candidates.

I am a 35 year old educated female who supports Hillary. While I was angry by the treatment, my main reason for supporting her has to do with the fact that she addresses the issues that are important to me and my family. She talks about the economy and health care, which are two issues that give me anxiety.

While I admire Obama's main message of hope, he does not speak to my family's needs and issues in a way that is meaningful. I need specifics.

So, while the pundits talk about "the defining moment," I tend to think in terms of the sum of the candidate. What does she stand for? How will she implement it? Do I have confidence in her ability to implement it?

Patsi
Pat Buchanan already tried to say that
and Rachael Maddow said he was a doddering old fool

In Tuesday evening's New Hampshire primary results, Clinton and her special interest party won tonight over the party of the people.

The people of New Hampshire stood in long lines to vote and the exit polls were not wrong and the pollster were not wrong, by all rights Obama should have won New Hampshire, but the special interest groups pulled another rabbit out of their hat and gave the victory to Clinton. The earlier results where there were paper ballots the victory went to Obama in a very large margin, with the voting machines Clinton got the victory. This same scenario happened to Gore and Kerry. The exit polls and pollster saying one thing and the machines saying another. That is why people cannot trust their government, and until we have voting machines that are fool proof and tamper proof and go go back to elections with paper ballots, like in Iowa, we cannot really trust our election results.

On the eve of the election, Hillary played her poor me, self-pity act (her so-called authentic moment) and Media complicit in this charade, played this teary-eyed Hillary over and over again to get out the "sympathy vote", which she did, but neglecting the air the piece right afterwards in which she lashes out at Barack Obama . This policy blunder will be huge ammonition for the Republicans if she wins the nomination. This "teary-eyed" piece will be aired over and over again in campaign commercials; citing her as to weak and to unstable to lead the country. A big mistake for her!

Change is hard, but Senator Obama will continue on with his message of hope and change. The special interst groups do not want to give up their power and they will do everything they can to keep power in their hands and out of the people's hands. Deciding who to back, be it Republican or Democrat as long as they serve their ends. Eventually the people will win and we will keep on fighting.

President Clinton, a man supposedly of honor, distorted and took out of context words Senator Obama's spoke at the 2004 Democratic Convention about his stance on the Iraq war. Do we really want people like that in the White House who will lie and distort for their own selfish gains? Or do we want a man of goodwill and integrity in the White House a man more concerned about you than himself. It is no easy to task for a man to risk his life for you because he answers the call to make America better and to take it to a higher ground.

When President Clinton achieved his Presidency, he took a lot of Democrats down. They had record loss in both the Senate and the Congress and the tone of Washington, D.C, was divisive and nasty, and a Hillary Presidency will do the same and we will have lost our moment to come together as one.

Much is at stake, we are at a crossroads. Change is hard because the media is in their pockets; the voting machines cannot be trusted. We can only HOPE! God bless this county!

In Tuesday evening's New Hampshire primary results, Clinton and her special interest party won tonight over the party of the people.

The people of New Hampshire stood in long lines to vote and the exit polls were not wrong and the pollster were not wrong, by all rights Obama should have won New Hampshire, but the special interest groups pulled another rabbit out of their hat and gave the victory to Clinton. The earlier results where there were paper ballots the victory went to Obama in a very large margin, with the voting machines Clinton got the victory. This same scenario happened to Gore and Kerry. The exit polls and pollster saying one thing and the machines saying another. That is why people cannot trust their government, and until we have voting machines that are fool proof and tamper proof and go go back to elections with paper ballots, like in Iowa, we cannot really trust our election results.

On the eve of the election, Hillary played her poor me, self-pity act (her so-called authentic moment) and Media complicit in this charade, played this teary-eyed Hillary over and over again to get out the "sympathy vote", which she did, but neglecting the air the piece right afterwards in which she lashes out at Barack Obama . This policy blunder will be huge ammonition for the Republicans if she wins the nomination. This "teary-eyed" piece will be aired over and over again in campaign commercials; citing her as to weak and to unstable to lead the country. A big mistake for her!

Change is hard, but Senator Obama will continue on with his message of hope and change. The special interst groups do not want to give up their power and they will do everything they can to keep power in their hands and out of the people's hands. Deciding who to back, be it Republican or Democrat as long as they serve their ends. Eventually the people will win and we will keep on fighting.

President Clinton, a man supposedly of honor, distorted and took out of context words Senator Obama's spoke at the 2004 Democratic Convention about his stance on the Iraq war. Do we really want people like that in the White House who will lie and distort for their own selfish gains? Or do we want a man of goodwill and integrity in the White House a man more concerned about you than himself. It is no easy to task for a man to risk his life for you because he answers the call to make America better and to take it to a higher ground.

When President Clinton achieved his Presidency, he took a lot of Democrats down. They had record loss in both the Senate and the Congress and the tone of Washington, D.C, was divisive and nasty, and a Hillary Presidency will do the same and we will have lost our moment to come together as one.

Much is at stake, we are at a crossroads. Change is hard because the media is in their pockets; the voting machines cannot be trusted. We can only HOPE! God bless this county!

NEW THREAD

Folks, who is "tweety"?