Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

I'll tell ya.

I don't know what to think about the choices on the GOP side.

Who do WE want for the GOP. I think McCain would be our best bet. He is devisive and luke warm for the Christian right and the Independents I think. So let him win.

Craig:

Great job on Abrams.

It seems as if you, Abrams, and Buchanan are the only analysts at MSNBC who haven't drank the Kool-aid.

Hi Sheila!
Interesting question- I have always been "for" Mitt because I have followed his record in my home state of MA- he would make the Kerry "flip flops" look like small potatoes. Romney is the most insincere candidate, and seems to have antagonized his republican peers.

But this video explains it much better than I:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiCqxKLIVDY

Craig,

You and Abrams were excellent last night. What happened this morning to start all the hosts down the path to destruction. Even for us die hard political nut cases, it has been hideous. I was ready to pass the Hemlock to Andrea Mitchell, if only for the sake of my blood pressure.

Hi Sheila, I have to agree that the Republicans would do best with McCain although I personally cringe at his war-mongering, but if anyone should be a hawk, it's him. He should have had the nomination for the Republicans in '00. No question in my mind it'll be McCain or Romney. Huckabee is funny but dumb about most issues, and the Republicans must realize what a danger he would be.

Chef Stone,
"Who do WE want for the GOP"

Not being a demmycrat, I'm not angling for which Republican would be most easy to beat.
I want the GOP to nominate someone who would be a good president. Ditto for the dems. So no matter who wins, WE win.

ps. It would be good if the future president liked chicarrones..
I would have loved it if during the debates they asked the candidates to raise their hand if they liked chicarrones. And you know the only one who would have raised their hand...

Hi Kathy!

Excellent! I just sent it to all my friends in Michigan!

continued from last thread.. the Onion piece was clearly satire.. and just about the funniest damn thing I've read since National Lampoon bit the dust (sob). dnd? I'll visit and help with your keyboard if ya return the favour.

does anyone want 4 years referring to "President Mitt"????

dnd,

I don't trust Repugs yet. There is still such a thing as someone who drank the koolaid and I don't think we have an antidote just yet......

Make sure you send that question to MSNBC for tonights debate!

Tylenol

Everything in the Onion is clearly satire and it was funny. My question was about the legality of putting Jimmy Carter's name as the byline with his picture.

Not everyone who reads things in the Onion realize that it is a spoof site. If they started passing it around in emails, it could be very hurtful to the former President. I can't help but wonder if he wouldn't have a case.

Craig on Dan Abrams' show last night...

Dan asks a questions, answers it himself, asks Craig what he thinks, then interrupts Craig halfway through his first sentence. Craig tries to talk louder, but Dan, who won't shut up, talks louder still.

I got them sittin' in the airport waitin' for my plane to come in blues.

Althopugh I am a demmycrat, I'm with dnd on this - put the best of the candidates up so that the choice doesn't put another Rainman, umm I mean Dumya, in the office. Plus I don't know that the best repug isn't necessarily the most easily elected one.

Here's the interview with Obama where he says he would be a bad "Chief Operating Officer"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/15/obama-id-be-a-bad-chie_n_81599.html

thanks Jamie,

I liked it.

Mitt is the GOP establishment, the country club professional/executve class.

Problem: how to rally all those blue-collar Reagan Democrats, who used to work at Ford and now work at Wal-Mart for minimum wage with no health insurance. Their kids are coming home from Iraq all screwed up. Their credit cards are maxed out.

How about a capital gains tax cut?

I don't think the Onion has anything to worry about...

Nash,

I can attest to the fact that the Children of Michigan have moved away. No Jobs.

Sheila,

I thought he described himself quite well. As a result, I agreed with most of the comments. :-)

Jamie,

I fear that they confirmed your thoughts toward him in ways that are differant than how they confirmed my belief in him. lol

Breaking News from Intrade data....

At approximately 11 a.m. CST, McCain shares began a steady sell-off, simultaneous with increased Romney purchases....

Since that time, McCain shares have fallen off approximately 25%, while Romney shares have increased approximately 44%.

Starting at approximately 2 p.m. CST, McCain shares began to rebound. They are now trading at 49, up from a low of 40. Romney shares are currently trading at 65, an intraday high.

More as events warrant....

pogo,
"I got them sittin' in the airport waitin' for my plane to come in blues."

Too bad you're not traveling with your guitar so you could play us a few bars...

"Plus I don't know that the best repug isn't necessarily the most easily elected one."

Ditto for the dems (witness Biden, Richardson, Dodd)

If the Republicans have a brokered convention and nominate Hagel, I'd consider voting for him. I don't agree with much of his positions, but 1) he's honest and 2) he wants us out of Iraq NOW!

Excellent Bob Herbert column on mysogeny in American life.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/15/opinion/15herbert.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

dnd,

Now I second that notion. I love Hagel and would vote for him.

whomever said that Mitt looks like the guy that laid them off was 100% correct. It should be mentioned at every opportunity.

yo soy Horsedooty!

>>Breaking News from Intrade data....

>>At approximately 11 a.m. CST, McCain shares began a steady sell-off, simultaneous with increased Romney purchases....

A clarification...this is for Michigan shares only

A perfect Horsey Cartoon for all of you.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/horsey/viewbydate.asp?ID=1692

MadMustard...Thanks for posting the "Craig on Abrams" vidclip. I didn't get to see it last night, as I fell asleep early, with the tv on. I was awakened this morning, just as Dan was saying, "Craig, Craig, hang on one sec..."...I was p.o.'d coz I thought Dan was not letting Craig get his point across!!....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!

Oh Lordy, did I hear correctly...did Keli Goff actually say, "a consultant's job is specifically not to give the media extra noose with which to hang your campaign."???

Unbelievable...

A great rant from a blogger names Craig Mason; http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/piuser/showuser.asp?username=craig%20a%20mason

Our "media commentators" have become such ill-informed dolts that they can, like Sophists who had too much lead in their pottery, only discuss "spin" and "how things look."

They do not dig down into the facts, and call out the liars. They do not carefully dig out the assumptions of politicians, and explore and assess them against fact.

Our "mob" politics can only be expected when the most brutishly ill-informed members of the "mass" run the "mass media."

Reporters should have to pass subject-matter essay tests before they are allowed into press conferences...

only drawback for me (and it's ALL about me doncha know) is that my puter is a fair distance from my tv.. but i'd love to join ya..

Released 1/15/08

Pollster John Zogby: “Okay, so who needs interesting? Our final track, to be exact, in Michigan is McCain 27.1% to Romney’s 25.6% and Huckabee at 14.9%. Our call center made 553 calls just on Monday to get as close a read on this as late as we could. Monday alone stood at Romney 26.7% to McCain’s 26.3%. ..

McCain stays strong with Indies and Democrats, while Romney’s lead among Republicans tightened – as did his lead in the Detroit metro area. Romney’s people are busy on the phones; McCain is campaigning heavily in his strongholds in the western part of the state, following some events in Detroit.

“This looks to be a nail biter, unless something breaks Tuesday.”

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1421

ty
Last spring, msnbc had the debate on their web site and probably will again.

my sound card cut out last week (yes, I just sit at my monitor and thump my head on it).. i'm waiting for my daughter's egg-head boyfriend to come over and wave his magic wand over my puter desk..

From ESPN's TMQ column by Greg Easterbrook...

Ideally from the Standpoint of U.S. Defense Contractors, China Will Begin Manufacturing Cloverfield Monsters: Last week, Aviation Week & Space Technology, the trade magazine that is the semi-official publication of the Pentagon, named Qian Xuesen its Person of the Year. Qian is a Chinese military scientist who both led the design of China's nuclear ICBMs, and supervises the country's peaceful civilian space program. China's civilian space research is going well; there's a chance China will land astronauts on the Moon in the next decade or so. But China's military space program, also Qian's baby, a year ago launched an anti-satellite rocket that destroyed a target in orbit. Both the United States and Russia have refrained from anti-satellite warfare; China's was a warning shot to the United States of possible Cold War in space. So why is Aviation Week & Space Technology honoring Qian, a military leader of a foreign power? Because U.S. aerospace contractors really miss the Cold War and are hoping China starts a Cold War II, so the defense budget would rise!

OMG,
I hope Biden's wife is OK. he's just had so many bad things happen to his family!!!!

Sorry, Joe Biden's wife was involved in a car accident on interstate 90. Closed down two lanes for hours.

Prayers are with you Joe and family!

Bloomberg ...not so much,.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=3996d567-0483-4944-8094-53615ee257cd

False Alarm.

Geez, MSNBC Scared me!

According to police Senator Joe Biden's wife was involved in a car accident on I-95 Tuesday morning.

Biden's wife was treated for minor injuries and released. She is now recovering at home.

The accident caused a major delay on 95 just before 10 a.m.

Stay tuned to CBS3.com for updates on this developing story

"The Toronto Star Stole Craig's Headline!"

"Those bastards!"

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/294034

Now Oprah gets her own network!!

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/newstex/AFX-0013-22272351.htm

Just elect the worman God and get it over with. lol

personally..... I really don't care who the Republicans nominate..... I really can't stand any of them....

and Sheila..... do you have the day off today?..... it's nice to see you around so much....

JoeCHI..... someone on the blog "sweetjesusihatechrismatthews" mentioned that you know MSNBC is in trouble when Pat Buchanan sounds the most stable......

Lush.... well Keli Goff may think of herself as the young, fresh, new hip face of punditry..... but last night she sounded like she was channeling Chris Matthews..... and our older white male pundit friend, Craig, was the one making all the sense.....

Hi Renee,

A real Treat. I am off until Friday. I've been working since the 10th of Dec. Its nice to be off.

I'm broke from my Teeth, AKA New Car payment, so I am just walking, execising, and blogging.....oh also Crocheting. ;0)

Sheila....
you crochet? ..... who woulda thunk it.....

I crochet or knit while watching tv at night.....
ya... I know.... I weave all day and crochet at night.....

whenever anyone has asked how I can move my hands so much I tell them "my hands are anal retentive"......

Renee,
"I weave all day and crochet at night"

There's got to be a song there somewhere...

First Mercury Flyby since 1974

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/01/14/ST2008011400722.html

Just thought you would like something intelligent in the middle of all the inane campaign coverage.

Here's an excerpt from that Toronto Star article that Spike linked us to:

"The event was packed with more than 500 cheering, and almost entirely white, supporters of the former New York mayor. They rose to their feet when he said America is not a militaristic nation but needs to go on the offence against Al Qaeda."

What the reporter missed was a conversation between two little old guys in the back row. "Okay, I'll stand up because I was getting stiff anyway, but why does he want to bomb Canada?"

"No, Morty, he didn't say he wants to bomb Canada. He said he wants to put up a fence."

"That's a good idea. Is he trying to keep them out, or us in? Must be getting ready to start up the draft."

I'm sure Morty's friend had a funny reply, but there was too much noise from chairs moving as the group sat back down for me to capture it, or make it up.

Matthews just has to keep stoking the furnace. To borrow Craig's very useful word:

BASTARD!!!!

Renee,

I have been thinking the same thing about MSNBC and Pat Buchanan for a while.

I think he and Rachel Maddow should do a show together because they would approach issues from polar opposite views and they would actually discuss them in a reasoned manner.

Renee,

yes I do. I am in the middle of the second afgan for the year. .

I also Cross Stitch Avidly. I'm a regular Suzie Home Maker whilest pursuing politics.

Bear a show with Rachel and any conservative would be good. Quite frankly I think it's time Buchanan and his sister Bay both retired, but I can't think of another Conservative who would do as good a job of actually discussing issues. I may disagree with him most of the time, but he knows his history.

I'm not a Buchanon fan. However, I'd like to see her twist Tucker into a Pretzel.

When they changed time slots for Tucker's show they did away with his daily segments with both Rachel Maddow and Max Kellerman and his show suffered greatly. I wonder why they did that.

But Bear,

That Rachel segment was such "Candy". I want to see real matches of cerebral sparring.

lol.. Tweety didnt even last 24 hours in Jamie's good book..

California primary report
So far one Rudy Ad the Nixon ad..tan rested and ready.

4 Obama ads (same ad) The focus is oil dependency and he sounded very McCainish
"I went to Detroit to insist that we have to increase fuel efficiency standards. Now, I have to admit, the room got kind of quiet. We can't just tell people what they want to hear. We need to tell them what they need to hear. We need to tell "
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/01/the-gops-michigan-stakes.html#comments

http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/index.ssf?/base/politics-1/120016885854750.xml&storylist=newsmichigan

the real link for the ad and a fact check of the contents

I don't watch Chris until 7pm. I'll swear then..

Sheila,

You want that and you watch MSNBC or any other mass media channel? PBS is the only station I have seen that provides what you seek.

Tuesday, Jan 15
Developing: Kucinich/NBC Hearing...

TVNewser has learned the Nevada Supreme Court has scheduled oral arguments for 4:30pmET today, as Rep. Dennis Kucinich fights to be included in tonight's MSNBC Democratic debate in Las Vegas.

go dennis!!

Well they did invite him and then they changed their standards and uninvited him. I think he will prevail and if not he will just make msngop look worse than Fox.

I think he is important to the process. More than even Gravel.

Nah Bri.. i just dont like it when networks decide who's in and who isnt.. he's technically still in.. he should be allowed in the debate..

ok.. going to read an actual book for a while.. see ya during the debate..

Bri,

I know what your getting at. YOu want more air time for Edwards. That's a valid wish.

But Kucinich is still important.

Matthews was awful tonight....still trying to rachet up the race thing. He tried his damndest to bait Rep. Clyburn...but Clyburnout-classed him. He talked about issues and refused to get down there withMatthews.

Read about Maddow on dailyhowler.com

OK...media watchers! A bit of levity now! Have you seen this video? Ya gotta love this kid...he's goin' to the top!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2EDtxEumFI

this is the winner in understatement of the new year.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/15/bush-im-sure-people-vi_n_81627.html

yo soy Horsedooty!

This is an interesting link featuring 10 things you didn't know about Barrack Obama...

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2008/01/10/1216652-10-things-about-barack-obama

This is a great story about the Patriots coach that discovered Tom Brady. May he rest in peace knowing he discovered the greatest QB in NFL history when it's all done...

If only he could scout presidents.

http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080115/SPORTS06/80115015/1054

Here's the Daily Howler link. Interesting comments about both Matthews and Maddow

http://www.dailyhowler.com/

Waiting for Corey to chime in.

tt

This is where the pros are spending their election contributions...

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2008/01/which_candidates_athletes_are.html

Dooty,

"War Monger" is sort of where I begin. When you consider that the policies of this man have virtually put the United States in danger of another Great Depression, it's a little hard to come up with words severe enough.

This morning the financial gal on MSNBC mentioned that one of the banks had sold 10% of itself in perpetuity to China for the price of one week of the trade deficit with China.

It is almost as if he is trying for single worst President in the history of the United States. Has someone mentioned that it isn't a good record to have?

I am interested Jamie.

I have wondered the same thing, along with why China and what did his father do as deal with China too.

They are both up to their chins in the Saudis and China. Have you noticed?

I can't find results for Kucinish yet. Anyone else in better shape?

I haven't heard much about the reults so far today. The main story is that voter turnout was very low today.

Jamie, thanks for the Howler link. Very interesting & true. I heard Chris say that about 'messing around' and my jaw hit the floor

I dunno....I just dunno.

tt

This war is very very expensive. Then you have the tax cuts. Then you have the boomers starting to retire and wanting the money that Congress has been stealing from Social Security for years. Add the bank and housing crisis. Then you have the global corporations who don't care where they are selling as long as they are selling. Add to this all the money we have sent all over the world that is now coming back to buy America. This country is well on its way to a financial blood bath. Then to top it all off, Americans are spoiled rotten. We grew up in a country where no one ever said "No" ... always buying more or better preferrably on credit to be paid at sometime in the future.

As Clinton said, it's awfully hard to make demands on your banker, and if our Middle Class goes down the tubes and stops buying, it's going to get very, very ugly.

State Rep. Doug Bruce kicked a photographer while he (Bruce)
was praying.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_7976974

Praise Jesus!

Yes,

Everyone keeps saying we can never have a depression again. However, when was the last time our Economy was built on retailing instead of Industry.

they rich don't care until there is just no more country and a whole lot of people who can't even grow their own vegetables because they don't own their own yard.

Sorry, I foresee a lot of food lines and not enough food.

As usual I flipped to CNN the instant Tucker's supercilious face hit the screen. They are actually talking about issues with a three person panel on Wolf Blizer. How novel. Of course once Lou Dobbs comes on, I have to change channels again.

Chef Stone,
I don't think we'll ever see a depression like the Great Depression, due to banking and stock regs, but it's entirely conceivable that we'll have a depression when the boomers retire on mass, and then go back to work because their 401(k)'s have little value.

Sheila,

In my childhood all my aunts still canned fruits and vegetables every summer because they lived through the depression. How many women today even know how to seal a Ball jar much less fill one?

On a lighter note, to those curious about Denver:

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_7977728

I hope they run them longhorns during the Democrat's convention.

Just one more cow(town).

Jamie,
"In my childhood all my aunts still canned fruits and vegetables every summer because they lived through the depression. How many women today even know how to seal a Ball jar much less fill one?"

All my aunts canned because they grew up on farms and that's what you did. Even after you moved off the farm.

I wish I knew how, because there is NOTHING like pickled okra, cauliflower, carrots, beans and peppers.

Jamie,

I can give lessons. ;0)

Oh That's you dnd. I'll give anyone lessons on canning....for a price! lol No, Canning is rudementary. Anyone can learn relatively fast.

HEY! I do it professionally....OK?!

You know jamie,

Martha Stewart, Paula Dean, and the Food Channel will do some segments.

I just got the Ball Jarr Cookbook one day and started. I remembered doing it with my Grandma.

Shelia,
You'd think I'd have learned it from Mom, since she worked my tail off helping her can. But it was worth it. The only thing that tastes better than something you made is something you helped your mom make.

Well,

dnd my Dawlin. Go get a case of new canning jars from Bell. YOu will not only get a lot of your moms recipes, but play by play on how to do it. Its the easiest and not hot at all anymore, since air conditioning.

I even have cut recipes to just a few jars instead of a mountain of them.

For the most part I just do the the fruit off our two backyard trees and Apple Butter because I like the homemade stuff. Last year in Tacoma was when I first started hitting the downtown farmer's markets.

Everything is so much better than the stuff imported from Chile. :-)

JAMIE! I love the farmers markets at home! Real money makers baby!

A great deal of fuel costs are tied up in international imports. Buying locally helps keep down transport costs, not to mention knowing who is organic and who is not. In these days of pesticides and artificial nutrients and hormones ... Better health by going retro!

LOLOLOL SMART !@#$%

I once asked one of my great aunts, while she was making the best red sauce you'd ever have, why she canned her own tomatoes. Her reply: "because the ones you get in a can at the grocery store taste like shit."

I wouldn't can vegetables, since freezing is better. But home canned fruit and pickled vegetables are always better than the stuff at Dean & DeLuca or Balducci's.

" How many women today even know how to seal a Ball jar much less fill one?""

Duh. By Gawd I do, dnd....ROFL. Dooty remembers that I am very proud of the fact that I was a Betty Crocker Homemaker of Tomorrow and I have a congratulatory letter from then-Kansas congressman Bob Dole to prove it. (Even though some of my classmates snickered when my name was announced.)

And my latest canning outing was last summer's best dang tomato preserves in the world. Had any tomato preserves lately?

And lets give two snaps for home made Tomato Ketchup and Mushroom Ketchup......yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......so much better than the store bought crap.

". Had any tomato preserves lately?"

Oh, Patsi, please don't torture me. Home made tomato preserves...

Aparently, Kucinich made it to the debate....according to HUFFPO.

I hope that is true.

"don't torture me. Home made tomato preserves... "

You bett-cher butt dnd. And if you didn't piss and moan about feminists I might send you some....just kidding...:)

" home made Tomato Ketchup and Mushroom Ketchup....."

Whoa doggies....sounds fabulous.

Patsi. its so good, one bottle wouldn't last the normal couple of months in your frig.

Its just a tear jerker. I did tomato preserves two years ago. WOW....that's another one that can make me fat!

"The only thing that tastes better than something you made is something you helped your mom make."

Ain't it the truth? That's how I learned to make homemade noodles, tomato preserves and a lot of stuff I "almost" learned....wish I'd paid better attention! But -- dnd you just got my vote for post of the day!

My grandson and I put up 93 qts of applesauce last fall. Sooooo good!!

nannymm,
Those 93 qts of applesauce will soon be gone, but trust me on this, the memory your grandson has doing this with his grandma will stay with him for the rest of his life. It really doesn't get any better than this.

no Kucinich in debate tonight,Olbermann just reported

Just one more cow(town).

Fort Worth, by God, Tx acually owns a herd of Longhorns that reside over on ther Northside of town and twice a day 365 are moved to the river and back. People line up to watch it. I would be that the herd could be turned out at the regular time and they would all go to the river without any supervision (cowboys) because they been doing it so long. It is a nice visual.

yo soy Horsedooty!

"tomato preserves two years ago. WOW....that's another one that can make me fat!"

No kidding, Sheila....this time I added some pineapple to the preserves...which adds the calories I'm sure. But it was tasty.

nannymmposted: "My grandson and I put up 93 qts of applesauce last fall."

I stand in awe!

Apparently very low turnout in Michigan.

No one cares about the goopers.

there is probably a Youtube on this but this is the chorus to a Guy Clark song.

"Homegrown tomatoes homegrown tomatoes
What'd life be without homegrown tomatoes
Only two things that money can't buy
That's true love & homegrown tomatoes"

yo soy Horsedooty!

dnd, you are sooo right! my son still remembers when he, his sister, i and used to go pick the apples and spend days making apple sauce. he won't even touch the store bought stuff.

Doots,
"Fort Worth, by God, Tx acually owns a herd of Longhorns that reside over on ther Northside of town and twice a day 365 are moved to the river and back. People line up to watch it."

Don't you think that is a piece of photographic art we're all waiting to see? Get busy!

Seeing the 93 quarts of apple sauce reminded me that my grandson now makes faces when I buy apple sauce at the store ... "When are you going to make apple sauce, Grandma Jamie?" He got spoiled really really fast.

How long does it take to eat 93 qts of applesauce????

Florida Dems claim heavier turnout in opening day of early primary voting:

NEWS FROM THE FLORIDA DEMOCRATIC PARTY
For Immediate Release: January 15, 2008
Contact: Mark Bubriski or Alejandro Miyar

"TALLAHASSEE - More than 20,000 Florida Democrats went to the polls across the state yesterday [Monday] on the first day of early voting for the January 29th election - topping Republican turnout by almost 3,000."

Doots,
While probably not Guy Clark's finest work, I sing it every August when the maters get ripe.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nitgmAInI18

By the way, although I love to can preserves etc....I wouldn't can a green bean on a bet. Freeze 'em....tastes better and you don't have to worry about those pesky bulging lids.....

Current Florida Polls

Democratic

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/fl/florida_democratic_primary-261.html

Republican

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/fl/florida_republican_primary-260.html

I guess Florida Republicans didn't accept Rudee's offer of a ride.

Isn't it hard to chat and watch?

one Guy Clark song deserves one more (cow).

Dublin Blues

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XQGjkBuMGAU&feature=related

yo soy Horsedooty!

Rumor around my parts is that Rudy will be losing some supporters to McCain soon.

Anybody know where/how to live stream the debate on the internet?

Linda...It's not hard to chat and watch the debate. It's fun! And it's especially easy if you're live-streaming the debate on your computer. Of course, if your computer and tv are in the same room, that's not necessary.

Patsi,
"By the way, although I love to can preserves etc....I wouldn't can a green bean on a bet. Freeze 'em....tastes better and you don't have to worry about those pesky bulging lids....."

Canned green beens taste horrible. But pickled green beans are great. Um,... especially in a bloody Mary. I love pickled asparagus too.

I can't think of any vegetable I like canned. Pickled yes, canned no. Conditioned on if you think tomatoes are a fruit or a vegetable...

JennBe...Saw your new dot on the map. Where are you? I used to live in Pensacola...actually, out on Santa Rosa Island...loved it!

harborwoman
look on the msnbc site

harborwoman

I read the comments from here, while I watched my "DVR'd" version of the debate on 10JAN. It was almost like "being here"...LOL!!

I am such an " early to bed, early to rise-er"...I'll be upstairs by 9:30(yawning...stretching).

LOL @ Jamie

Doots,
There are a lot of great songwriters from Texas. For my money, Guy Clark is one of the best.

Thanks, kgc! Found it. Are you going to join us for chat?

Linda...Come on over and chat awhile...no pressure to stay 'til the debate ends...just hang out as long as you want

There they are...the Mod Squad..(minus "Keys"...you know, the Peter Coyote character from E.T.).

Harbor, I'm in Tallahassee. I love the Panhandle area of Florida! How could you leave Florida? I'm spoiled now wouldn't want to live anywhere else!

I'm coming but I will be a bit late

this is pretty funny

http://www.atrios.blogspot.com/

"Guy Clark"

South Coast of Texas! 1981...just killed!

Romney being projected by NBC.

wow, Romney already projected Michigan winner. Guess i'll be posting before going to studio. What a busy night

JennBe...Did a stupid thing...married a Navy pilot from WA, which ALWAYS means you'll be leaving, no matter how much you love where you are. We're divorced now, but I love WA, too, and have stayed. Been here 30+ years.

it took an afternoon to pick the apples and 2 LONG days to make the applesauce. but we had a blast!!
at about 2 qts per week it should last most of the year.

Romney won???? :(

Yes, Linda. That's what NBC is projecting.

Linda, I got the same error when I attempted chat. I just went ahead in anyway.

OK...so I haven't gone up yet...LOL

What does Hillary mean, when she says, "the kind of president "we" intend to be?

Thanks, Claire :)

She's talking about the candidate Barack Edwinton.

Patsi,

I agree!

If I could be sure this band was playing at my church I would be there everytime the doors opened.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WK3FRZkuwv0

yo soy Horsedooty!

Nearly 25 minutes into the debate and they are yet to ask a single question about a single issue. I am so tired of this crappola that I am about to go watch something else.

I think she is talking about the three candidates. That it is a quality all of them want to present to the public.

NEW THREAD

there are great songwriters from all over dnd.

dnd, here is a vid with Darrell Scott and Beppe Gambetta and Brad Davis I just found. This is that Italian trip I told you Brad did last year. Excellent.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_eX64uMmpyA

yo soy Horsedooty!