Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

woo? woo hoo.

"hd, I was kidding about the plagiarism "

I knew that and was not offended Pogo.

yo soy Horsedooty!

“I take mine from Republican ideals: small government, small taxes, individual freedom.”

Romney forgot to mention "small minds"......

Is today's thread a thread or a Hillary campaign memo?

It's funny you should pick this topic. I was looking on You Tube for a copy of Bernadette Peters singing a Stephen Sondheim song and came across this version sung by Barbra Streisand.

The mother and child in the closeup might look familiar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiTaDJ9E1I0

gee Brian I think you should be complaining to Mittens
he is the one who attacked her. I guess you and yours are just feeling left out.

hey brian, hillary justified the obama bashing yesterday by saying she has no choice but to respond every time he attacks her, just seems like she'd want to give the romster equal treatment

I received this story in an email from a friend in California. He has way more time on his hands than most people. This way off topic,

" A woman went up to the bar in a quiet rural
pub. She gestured alluringly to the bartender who
approached her immediately. She seductively
signaled that he should bring his face closer to
hers. As he did, she gently caressed his full beard.

"Are you the manager?" she asked, softly
stroking his face with both hands.

"Actually, no," he replied.

"Can you get him for me? I need to speak to
him," she said, running her hands beyond his beard
and into his hair.

"I'm afraid I can't," breathed the bartender...
"Is there anything I can do?"

"Yes. I need you to give him a message," she
continued, running her forefinger across the
bartender's lip and slyly popping a couple of her
fingers into his mouth and allowing him to suck them
gently.

"What should I tell him?" the bartender managed to
say.

"Tell him," she whispered, "There's no
toilet paper, hand soap, or paper towels in the
ladies room."

yo soy Horsedooty!

i don't get it, horsedooty

Good of you to lend her a helping hand Craig. And gee KC thanks for telling me what I'm feeling, you're too kind.

just guessin' feel free to correct me if I am wrong

Horse! So Funny! ;p

hey brian, i've twice offered blog suggestions to barack for responding to romney -- when Mitt pretended to mix up his name with "Osama" and when Mitt was the first in this campaign to attack Obama's teenage drug use

Craig I know you were joking too about not getting it....as I make a spitting sound for the bartender! lol

why is that funny, sheila? i really don't get it

is it dirty? i never get dirty jokes

OH lol She has been using the ladies room and it didn't have toilet paper or something to wash her hands with and so she is doing this flirt while putting her fingers in his mouth.....yuk!

Craig she had to use her bare hands to clean up after the bathroom, think about it.

KC stay out of my head, and I'll stay out of yours!

She was making a point. ;0)

and it's a little payback for not getting the manager for her

oh now i get it, that is kinda funny. thanks

so it really was a "dirty" joke, ha!

LOLOL Yes

It more for the girls I think. We find that funny because its a truism for us. Bar toilets are always deficient. ;0)

Oh and Airport toilets are miserable

I guess I will have to sit down and go over Romney's background.

Craig, is he well vetted too?

http://www.factcheck.org/more_mitt_missteps.html

We find additional exaggerations and misstatements by Romney on the campaign trail.

By factcheck.org

factcheck is ok sheila but CQ is better: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/personalities/mitt-romney/

Thanks Craig, I can't believe I've been googling and didn't come across politifact.

Craig, I thought you were joking is why I didn't answer you.

yo soy Horsedooty!

a little dense this morning, horsedooty. spent the last 12 hours studying all things romney. btw, gang, for those who want to spend your weekend reading about the guy here is a phenomenal study by the globe (click your way to the videos, they are really interesting): http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/specials/romney/

"spent the last 12 hours studying all things romney. "

You have my sympathies Craig!

ha, brian, yep a sleepless night with mitt romney is not so great but comes wit the turf, punditry is not glamorous

in fact, gonna nap now, but sadly will be dreaming about willard -- it goes something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfjZ-pVK--E

Craig,

Where are planning to be on Super Tuesday? Still healing in Florida or will you make it back to DC.

LOL Wow, Major nightmare Utube Craig.

And good napping.

Sweet dreams

Oh Thank all the Gods and Fox!

Fox Won't Sell Superbowl Adds

http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/01/fox_wont_sell_super_bowl_ads_t.php

Slate is hilarious today. What it would sound like if Tweety spoke to me the way he does to women.

http://www.slate.com/id/2182544

god damn, that's a big fire at the Monte Carlo.

"a sleepless night with mitt romney "

You got off easy. I've obviously been watching too much commentary. I dreamed of KO directing a bunch of children doing "The Music Man" and constant repetition of "But He Doesn't Know The Territory!!"

OH missed Craig before his Nap....
Interesting article - eye for eye, tooth for tooth, jab for jab...
Now interesting to research all elements of Mitt, as I must admit I do not have all of the facts.
The ones Criag suggest for HRC to use "the layoffs of 4,551 workers at the following firms: American Pad & Paper, Dade International, LIVE Entertainment, and DDI Corp" - Need to see did these companies go under...
How many jobs where kept from Romney - the other side of the coin. Also was it Mitt that came in to try and save a dead company or was it Mitt that ran the companies first? Who owns the "blame".....

Could be a great thing for HRC to bring up depending on the facts - Could help show that Mitt can make the very difficult presidential decisions.

make that "spoke to MEN" sheesh

Craig, Was this nap time back in the day at Stetson?

Brian, this stuff just has to drive you crazy.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/25/BA3TULQIT.DTL

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/25/oldstyle-politics-in-_n_83263.html

If I supported Edward it would (the second link is for Hillary supporters - should give them - us - a chuckle).

That would be Edwards, not Edward.

Oh yeah pogo, that an other things too!

HEELLLPPP, HEEE's BBAAACCCKKK!!!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/25/wolfowitz-picked-for-arms_n_83213.html

Wolfie returns from the dead - must be a full moon.

Pogo

Great pictures of the photo opp.

The thing is they all do it
I think It's the modern world everybody needs to be seen as real but what we get is fake reality with the help of ,in this case, a willing press.
Reminds me of when I was a volunteer community organizer. The best way to get my success story out was to take pictures of old women and children. If I could give them a picture that would make you go, Ahhh, they would print my story.

Jack

Edwards on C-Span now.

and just who was the head of the FCC when all these relaxed regulations went thru so that Rupert Murchoch now OWNS the United States? Colin Powell's son. Nice man, I suppose but what the heck did he know about communications and Marshall McLuhan ("the medium IS the message")????

OMG--Jamie!!!

That Slate link to HARDBALLS is side-splitting, laugh-out-loud hysterical!!!!!

Pogo....
heard that news about Wolfowitz on NPR this morning.... on Diane Rehm's weekly roundtable.... she asked why Bush would put someone who's a failed architect of the Iraq war in that position.....
the answer..... because Bush doesn't see Wolfie as a failure....

next January can't come fast enough for me.......

Here is something on this subject ty,

FCC Votes To Relax Media Ownership Rules
Congressional opposition likely; White House supports measure

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/12/fcc_rules.html

Martin, however, has the backing of the White House to pursue the media consolidation changes. Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez wrote Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid prior to the vote, warning him that the Bush administration would fight any "attempt to delay or overturn these revised rules by legislative means."

There is your answer.

So evil aren't they?

wasn't John McCain a part of the Ketting 5 swindle? I don't remember him being found guilty but there are skeletons in his closet.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Lush....
I skipped right by Jamie's link to slate..... but after your post... I just had to read it......

you're right....... it's hysterical!

sorry for the terrible spellling it was the Keaton 5

yo soy Horsedooty!

actually hd, that is Keating 5 - and that ain't his only problem

http://www.realchange.org/mccain.htm

Lush and Renee

That You Tube link with Barbra is pretty interesting as well with Hillary, Chelsea, and Bill's now deceased mother.

Streisand gets in quite a plug for Hillary's work for Children.

Pogo that was very interesting about McCain. I was not aware.

I read Slate every day...jamie, that was a good story but old news...here's a link to bookmark and check daily:

http://slate.com/

here's a re-post of a link I posted during the debate when romney was going on about the military and how he was going to ensure a free ride for all vets...easy to promise when the soldiers are too stupid to do college work.

http://www.slate.com/id/2182752/nav/tap3/

Tweety's at it again ... Bashing Hillary while trying to show off how smart and/or well educated he is.

Bill Clinton as Deus Ex Machina for those who weren't lucky enough to have Latin offered in their school ... Act of God: The person or thing that got Greek and Roman playwrites out of a jam they had written themself into via a miracle.

i.e. Hillary had to call on Bill to save her campaign.

You don't think he changed his coat did you? Chris Matthews has been doing this for so long with no checks.....heck he thinks that was an isolated incident.

** "...Bill's now deceased mother. ..." **

Jamie...I only watched to the first shot of Hillary and Chelsea...I was thinking, "uhhhhhhh, Jamie, that's actually Bill's brother, not his Mom!!"(LOL)...but then I went back and watched the entire clip. They all looked very nice. :)

RRenee...I am still laughin' at the Hardballs article!! BTW...how 'bout them Patriots!!! I have a real dilemma here...Jim is a huge NY Football Giants fan, so I would love to see the G-men win!! But I really want to see the Pats go 19-0(just to shut Mercury Morris up, if that is possible). Hmm...I guess I really don't have a dilemma after all...it's win-win for me!!

Dexter...it wasn't "old news" to me. :)

McCain was found guilty of nothing in the Keating 5 scandal. My understanding of that particular scandal is that he was dragged into it in order to prevent it from having an entirely Democratic face, but that he was never found to have committed any wrong. All of the other 'defendants' in that scandal were Democrats.

Did anyone else watch the first Hardball segment? Faye Wattleton, who spoke for the Clinton campaign, is a very impressive woman.

NBC also aired an undated photo of Sen. Clinton and her husband, former President Clinton, posing with real estate developer and fast-food magnate Antoin "Tony" Rezko, who faces trial next month on federal corruption charges. During a Democratic debate Monday, Sen. Clinton referred to Rezko as a slumlord from whom Obama has accepted thousands of dollars in campaign contributions over the course of his career.

"I don't know the man, I wouldn't know him if he walked in the door. I don't have a 17-year relationship with him," Clinton said Friday. "There is a big difference between standing somewhere taking a picture with someone you don't know, haven't seen since, and having a relationship." http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080125/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_7

last nite when romney was on , we got to mentioning names, and I revealed my paternal heritage included the passing on of the name "Milton".

Imagine the "well I'll be damned!!" when I read this obituary in my old hometown Indiana paper:
(excerpt from obit):
"CHARLOTTE, Mich. — Milton H. Dexter Jr., 73, of Charlotte died Friday, Jan. 18, 2008, from complications due to Parkinson’s disease."

My friend's grandson had some learning disabilities and, thanks in part to our lovely, public school system, never got the help he needed. He joined the army last year and said this is the first time he felt successful and respected.

I wouldn't discount anyone's possible contribution in life based on their classroom experience. I think all of our grandparents were pretty amazing and many probably had to quit school to work, as did mine.

I'm still enjoying the factoid that Obama doesn't have the fine motor skills to vote his intent. Fried baloney.

Not to bore anyone, but Milton was polar opposite to Machiavelli.
"There is no short, simple answer to the crucial question of how Milton’s vision of human nature in Paradise Lost is related to the republicans’ vision of human nature...we can say that Milton follows the classical republicans (but not Machiavelli) in thinking of the human agent (both pre and postlapsarian versions) as a composite that includes a rational element and an appetitive, passionate element. " random quote off the "internets"

HW, McCain was not convicted of anything, and neither were any of the others, although one was censured and three were "criticized", but even such Repug screamers as Mark Levin don't think McCain didn't do anything wrong - even by his own standards.

http://www.nationalreview.com/contributors/levin040501.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five

I believe that McCain Feingold was his attempt to cleanse his past.

"The federal government on Friday approved Mississippi's plan to divert $600 million in hurricane housing funds to a port improvement project, angering critics who say tens of thousands of people made homeless by Hurricane Katrina still need help."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080125/ap_on_re_us/katrina_housing

"I am suspicious that Barbour receives favored treatment with this administration. He kind of gets his way," Waters said.

"when the soon-to-be-frontrunner Mitt Romney"

Craig will you be referring to Obama as the front runner when he wins SC tomorrow?

blue, I'm sure Fry would be happy to explain to you how the corporations that will benefit from the diversion of the housing money to improve the port they use will benefit those 40 some odd thousand folks more than the $15,000 each woul dget (on average) toward putting them back in to their homes. It's the republican way.

Now, I'm outta here.

Dex....
I don't know about anyone else...... but you could never bore me..... I love your posts.....

Lush..... this is the hardest Super Bowl..... in the past, it didn't matter so much if the Patriots won..... at least knowing they were playing the big game was enough for me...... but if they don't go 19-0.... it will be a New England heartbreaker....

Dexter,

Milton's "vision" of anything wouldn't have been all that great, even if one of his best known works is "On His Blindness".

Re names passed through generations. On the rare ocassions I meet anyone with the last name Durward, I know they are a relative. Anyone with the first name Durward, there is a high probability descended from a relative. :-)

.. well maybe not quite.

I expect Craig will wait until Obama actually wins more contests than Hillary has before he does that, Brian. Any such pronouncement before SDT would be premature on the Dem side since between them, all things will be equal if he wins SC, which he should.

Now I really am outta here.

He doesn't seem to have that problem where the gop is concerned pogo. I guess no sauce for the gander, only the goose.

So lets see a few days ago McCain was being coroneted as the new GOP standard bearer, today it seems to be Romney. After Iowa Obama had this thing sewed up, after NH well maybe not so much. Maybe the media should stop trying to call this and just report it.

Brian

Clear Front Runner

Caucus / Primary wins
Romney - 3
McCain - 2
Huckabee - 1

Wait a Minute! Brian, you talking about a whole new way of reporting.....how revolutionary of you!

Harbor woman,

it is true that McCain was not ever indicted or convicted of anything he was censured in the Senate if I remember correctly. In the end, none of the senators was convicted of any crime, but McCain did receive a rebuke from the Senate Ethics Committee for exercising "poor judgment" for intervening with the federal regulators on behalf of Keating.

there was also the infidelity in his first marriage. No one is perfect and I am sure it would surprise you that I am not perfect but I have my skeletons also.

yo soy Horsedooty!

RR-

Rest easy all the football karma in the world couldnt stop your Patriots now.

Ill be rooting for the G-men though.

Hipster

Jamie you're not really get my point. I'm talking about media bias and an over eagerness on the media's part to want to appear that they can call this thing.

Dooty

Is your leg bone connected to your hip bone?

Craig,

Good luck tonight on Olbermann...

"Break a leg"

oooohhhhh just kidding there, pal.

Hipster

Brian,

The only problem is that when someone says something nice about your candidate, you agree wholeheartedly with their viewpoint and wisdom. The instant someone says something nice about another candidate, you immediately accuse them of unfair bias.

"Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?

You know jamie I'm really getting tired of you telling me what I'm doing right and what I'm doing wrong. Find someone one else to play house mother too. I stated my opinion on something you're take on it is of no interest to me. Half your posts are about how you think people should behave. Sorry but I must have missed the proclamation where you were crowed blog queen .

jamie said, "Dooty

Is your leg bone connected to your hip bone?"

Huh?

should be

yo soy Horsedooty!

oh I get it

skeletons

yo soy Horsedooty!

Well, hell...whether we are bitches or housemothers....or the Mammary Mafia....here we are often told what opinions to have or who we can question, so here's all I've got to say:

Hillbilly Corn Cakes

Ingredients:
2 pints boiling water
2 level teaspoons salt
21⁄2 cups plain (not self-rising) cornmeal

Directions:

Chill the mixture at least overnight — 24 hours is even better.

Add salt to boiling water. Gradually mix in meal.

Set in refrigerator at least 24 hours, until mixture will hold desired shape.

When preparing to cook, slightly knead the mixture and separate it into portions slightly larger than a golf ball. Form into patties. (Makes 14 corn cakes)

Fry in enough (375 degree) shortening to cover the ''patties'' at a medium heat until they are golden brown (approximately 7 minutes). They will begin to float in the shortening when done.

Not unlike bullshit starts to float.

Here's something you old tarts should like, my mother loves this recipes.

Lemon Sour Cream Pie
Serves 6

Flaky Pie Crust Dough:
2 cups flour
1 1/2 Tbs. sugar
1/2 tsp. salt
1/2 cup and 2 Tbs. butter
1 large egg
2 Tbs. ice water

Pie Crust Directions:

Mix together the flour, sugar, and salt in a large bowl. Cut the butter into small pieces and begin working it into the flour with a pastry cutter. Work with the dough until each piece of butter is the size of a raisin. Make sure to do this quickly.

Mix together the egg and water in a small bowl, then add that to the flour/butter mixture. Smear this mixture and knead through it with the heal of your hand until it barely holds together. Don't over-work the dough. Flatten the dough into a disc shape, wrap it in plastic, and chill in refrigerator for at least 30 minutes.

Roll out the dough for the pie shell and place in a 9-inch pie pan shaping the dough to the pan. Line the shell with parchment paper and place baking beans or weights. Chill for 30 minutes, then bake at 350 degrees F for 15 minutes. Remove parchment and weights and continue to bake for an additional 12 minutes or until crust is light golden brown. Let cool.

Lemon Filling:
1 cup sugar
3-1/2 Tbs. cornstarch
1 Tbs. lemon zest
1/2 cup fresh lemon juice
3 egg yolks, slightly beaten
1 cup milk
1 package (3 ounces) cream cheese
1/4 cup butter
1 cup sour cream
1 baked pie shell, 9-inch
1 cup heavy whipping cream, whipped and sweetened with 1/8 cup sugar

In a heavy saucepan, combine sugar, cornstarch, lemon zest, lemon juice, egg yolks, milk and cream cheese. Cook over medium heat until thick. Stir in butter and cool mixture to room temperature.

Stir in sour cream and pour filling into pie shell. Cover with whipped cream. Store in refrigerator.

Hey Brian!

I'm an old Tart and I love this recipe! I'm going to try it.

tarts for the tarts!

So let me get this straight, Brian, you want Craig to predict who the Dem frontrunner will be after Obama wins SC, where he's been expected to win since the first of December despite no such expectation that he will do the same on SDT just because Craig has suggested Romney will be the repug frontrunner after FL (the 4th or 5th largest state in terms of delegates awarded) - albeit reduced by half for the repugs - after Rudi has been expected to win there forever, at least until a couple weeks ago? The only goose/gander aspect of those two races is that there are Dems and Repugs on their respective parties' ballots. That said, I think McCain is now the Repug frontrunner notwithstanding a possible Romney win in FL (we'll see - I think McCain will take it) unless Romney can get a lot of traction and mo' in CA & NY and really catch fire in the rest of the country.

and dont forget "toys for tarts" .. it's a christmas fund for underprivileged hookers..

hd, you're doing it again...(5:37 post). Something tells me we have some kind of psychic connection today or something like that.

BTW, Brian, Craig ain't no newsman, he's a pundit, and they are entitled to their opinions.

No pogo, I want Craig to apply the same treatment to the Dems as he does to the Repubs, and to stop treating Obama as a spoiler. That's the point I'm trying to make.

I'd post a recipe, but I dont know one..

Bush prods senators to pass his stimulus package in White Sulphur Springs, WV - The Greenbrier resort, no doubt.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/25/washington/26gopcnd.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

That's where Mrs. Pogo and I drank and danced the night away last Saturday night.

pogo..what a romantic!

What you're asking would not be applying the same standards - and so what? Why should he do that if he doesn't have an opinion he feels he can stand behind? Admit it, you're still pissed because of your take on this thread topic.

pogo and horsedooty...

re: skeletons in closets, doots...me, too...me, too...i'd NEVER dare run for anything!

re: McCain...i'd have to go back and brush up on the Keating 5 scandal to deny or confirm anything specific, but I did follow the link you provided, pogo, and if that's all the dirt they can dredge up on McCain, it ain't much.

This is going to be an interesting general election campaign. I'd prefer to see McCain as the Rep nominee, even though I don't agree with a single position he holds, because I at least believe he has some honor and integrity. I don't believe that of Mitt-blowin'-in-the-wind-tell-you-whatever-you-want-to-hear-Ken-doll-Romney. I also predict a much less ugly general campaign if McCain is the nominee.

"Perhaps Hillary Rodham Clinton should take a break from bashing a fellow Democrat and rally her party"

Hillary has not been selected as our candidate yet, it's not her place to rally us to anything at this point. The other night both on TV and here on the blog Craig likened what is going between Hillary and Obama to what happened in '80 to Carter/Kennedy. Frankly that analogy has been stuck in my craw. Last time I looked Hillary was an incumbent senator, not president.

doots and pogo.. count me in too.. there's too many people still alive with stories to tell about me...

i thought the carter/kennedy thing was a good analogy

Oh you're right pogo, I don't like the tone of the thread at all. I find it presumptuous. I didn't think I had to "admit" it, I thought it very clear. LOL

If the government really wanted to do something to offset the current problems in the economy, they wouldn't had out either cash or tax breaks. Either of those is a one time benefit with nothing left to show for it.

The smart thing to do would be to invest that 150 billion in infrastructure just as FDR, Ike and even Hitler did to counteract recession combined with inflation.

We need a new WPA. That money could rebuild bridges or a high speed rail or upgrade the National Parks. If they are going to borrow money why not create jobs and improve living standards that would leave something permanent behind?

Well it is Burns Night and that requires a completely different recipe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kzYaIphbzU

Just watched the panel discussion at the end of FNC's "Special Report with Brit Hume". Barnes, Krauthammer and Kondracke all defended the Clintons-the Rezko photo amounts to nothing. The Obama campaign has released a statement attacking the Clintons. The photo did get the Rezko/Obama story out again. Beginning to suspect the photo came from the Clinton campaign.

Yeah, ty, thanks - we still like to dump Little Pogo with a friend for the weekend do that sort of stuff every so often. The band played 50s & 60s rock and rockabilly (with a few r&b songs), so I felt like I was a kid again.

Brian, I happen to want to agree with that quote - the intraparty rancor is becoming tiring. And I did see Craig's Carter/Kennedy analogy's validity notwithstanding the difference in Obama and Carter's offices. This may have stuck in your craw as well.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/25/opinion/25fri1.html

The Times endorses Clinton.

And endorses McCain - that has to royally piss Rudi off.

Jamie...

Focusing on matters that are truly important, there's no 'Moonlight' tonight (sob). At least there's a new 'Friday Night Lights' episode...but, damn, I'll miss Mick....

Gordo, I don't think the Clintons are that Machiavellian.

Anyone watching MSNBC tonight? God Damn.

Well, I need to go find something to cook for Mrs. Pogo. Have a good evening, all.

don't know Pogo but again I am sorry for stepping on your toes again and again and one more time. I will go with your psychic connection theory since I don't have one. Its just the memory that I have about the Repubs and why I find them not so nice.

maybe better blogging next week.

yo soy Horsedooty!

um..gordo.. drudge can rake this up all on his own..

this is the resort mr tylenol and I used to go to every new year.. it's in dixville notch (remember that?) i miss that place..

i just got a message saying my comment is being held by the blog owner.. I swear.. I didnt swear

Actually pogo the Times endorsement didn't bother me at all, really. Editorials are supposed to be biased!

And I"m sorry I don't buy the Clinto/Kennedy analogy. Carter lost that election all on his own, trying to blame Teddy I find grossly unfair. Also in my eye the analogy implies that it is some how out of line for Obama to be challenging Clinton.

"Gordo, I don't think the Clintons are that Machiavellian."

(giving pogo a look of disbelief emoticon)

nevermind.. lol.. google 'the balsams' ..it's beautiful..

bri.. i just meant that .. it's too easy to take yer eyes off the prize and get caught up in what I consider crappola.. I thought Stewart summed it up pretty well last night.. there IS no feud, but that doesnt stop everyone from talking about it..

tylenol did your post have several URLs in it. I think the blog holds back posts with 3 URLs in it.

nope.. just one url.. but it's ok.. wasnt important.. just passing time till KO

As a newcomer/outsider, not sure if I can intervene in tonite's discussions, the tone seems a bit tense, but if any of
you are interested--I took the time to read George Packer's New Yorker article re: Hillary v. Obama (mostly its about Hillary) That was first Hardball topic. It is really quite interesting (but very long piece) that presents worthwhile
insights about both candidates. His writing is much better than his on-air comments. Would value some others' opinions.

Jamie-it would probably need your skills to link, I acutally printed your instructions, but I'm not competent at it yet.

HW

The only consolation is a new Bill Mahar. Even numbers is a rerun. Friday's without Mick is desolate. :-)

Coreen

Dive right in. The family may be somewhat dysfunctional at times, but we usually kiss and make up.

Yep, Jamie...no Mick...and for me, no Bill Mahar. I don't get HBO. So I'll just muddle through with Friday Night Lights...and get ready to watch the SC coverage tomorrow.

Jamie & Harborwoman--glad to know there are others out
there with guilty pleasures like Moonlight. I keep wondering
if the writer's strike will end this new series.

coreen.. dont be shy.. we've been talking here a while.. takes time to know that we really do (looks at brian with a shhhh) get along most of the time.. the next 10 months is going to be a bit testy around here tho..

Coreen,

Here's the New Yorker article

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/01/28/080128fa_fact_packer

I wouldn't worry about Moonlight. With the kind of traffic that web site gets, he could be old and toothless before the ladies stop lusting. :-)

back in a few.. going to watch KO

Tylenol don't make me go into my bags emoticons again!

KO (Keith Olbermann) says Edwards might come in #2 in South Carolina, bumping Hillary to #3.

I guess Hillary is losing the white guy vote.

Craig is now on KO.

nash
that is not what KO said
and dana milbank also said there was zero chance of that happening

craig sez
"Edwards is taking votes from Obama"

Night of the Living Edwards.

OK all you Edwards-lovers...your boy is BACK.

As we speak, the Clintons must be searching for their file folder of focus group tested Edwards smears.

nash trouble maker
and big fat liar
If anything were to smear Edwards it would be coming from the Obama campaign

*lights a candle and mumbles "please let him come in second, plzzzzzzzzzzz"*

Um....9:30 p.m. ESPN2 Womens Australian Open final is on. My girl Ana is playing against Maria Sharapova. I'll be all over that! Bill Maher who???

Geez you guys. I'm just trying to stir up a little trouble here.

Stop muddying the water with facts.

harumph

I thought Edwards had already worked out a deal with Billary to be VP. If he beats them does he become a free agent again?

You know, you can't go wrong with a rich white guy.

SOUTH CAROLINA DELEGATE APPORTIONMENT

45 of 54 delegates to the Democratic National Convention are allocated to presidential contenders based on the results of the voting in today's South Carolina Presidential Primary.

A mandatory 15 percent threshold is required in order for a presidential contender to be allocated National Convention delegates at either the congressional district or statewide level.

29 district delegates are to be allocated proportionally to presidential contenders based on the primary results in each of the State's 6 congressional districts.
CD 1: 4
CD 2: 5
CD 3: 4
CD 4: 4
CD 5: 6
CD 6: 6

In addition, 16 delegates are to be allocated to presidential contenders based on the primary vote statewide.

10 at-large National Convention delegates
6 Pledged PLEOs

The remaining 9 National Convention delegates consist of

8 Unpledged PLEO delegates:
6 Democratic National Committee members.
2 Members of Congress (0 Senators and 2 Representatives).
0 Governors.
0 Distinguished Party Leaders.
1 Unpledged "add-on" (elected during the State Convention).

These 9 delegates and will go to the Democratic National Convention officially "Unpledged".

silly Nash
everyone knowns Edwards has agreed to a sex change operation so he have the vp spot with obama

Spike

Thank you for that detailed clarification. (?) :-)

I highly doubt that about Edwards , KGC! I don't know any women who would pay $400 for a hair cut!

Edwards will NEVER accept the veep invite...it's all or nothing...he'd rather be raking in millions of dollars per month as a lawyer than be second banana...no way would he ever be veep. Never never uh-uh-UHH!

Oh Corey there are a great many women who spend that and quite a bit more to have their hair done.

On AMC tonite at 10:30 a pilot will be shown.
It's about a college prof who at 50 is told he has incurable lung cancer. He resents turning down a good paying job with a big company earlier in life to dedicate his life to the service of teaching.
So now, he decides to get even.
It's suposed to be a kick-ass show...only one hour...I guess it has already played , but I ain't seen it...

"Meanwhile, our favorite TV nugget of the day so far came courtesy of Barbara Walters, who matter-of-factly informed viewers that Laura Bush recently had her hair done by famed New York City stylist Sally Hershberger, who charges $700 for a haircut. "

So Corey are you saying Laura is not a real woman?
Jenne and notjenna would like to see you in the hall.

Laura is ALL WOMAN! Yowzah!!!

"Craig will you be referring to Obama as the front runner when he wins SC tomorrow? -- Posted by: Brian In NYC"

nope, Brian -- haven't called anybody a frontrunner in that race, just barely getting there on GOP side -- don't expect anybody clearly the frontrunner in either race until SupDupTUe or beyond

*checks out brian's bag of emoticons*

craig... wouldnt it be great if it took the convention to put someone over the top??? is that even possible anymore?

"craig... wouldnt it be great if it took the convention to put someone over the top??? is that even possible anymore? --Posted by: tylenol "

Tylenol, it would be the greatest thing ever for somebody in my line of work. Closest I ever saw was Ford vs. Reagan '76. And yes it's as close to possible as we've seen in either party since then. Among Dems, could come down to the Credentials Cmte fight over seating FLA and MICH, and if that's what decides it, Obama & Edwards will rue the day they let IA & NH bully them into taking their names off the Mich ballot (dumbest thing i ever saw)

Gordo said or I think it was gordo
"The photo did get the Rezko/Obama story out again. Beginning to suspect the photo came from the Clinton campaign"

Good post Gordo
Keep them brain cells rubbing together.
It gets addictive after a while.

Jack

ohhhh craig.. my political heart is fluttering.. MAN that would just be SO great.. to not know until the convention.. all that sweatin!!

whenever you get depressed because the Democrats seems to be fighting

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/25/meet-the-open-borders-family-mccain-hernandez-soros-and-the-reform-institute/

The Dem Convention of 1956 back when networks covered them is the one that got me hooked on politics. 12 years old and I actually went across the street because my girlfriends dad had it on TV and I couldn't watch it at home ...

Nothings changed. Still have my own TV so no one else is forced to watch all this news and political stuff.

Someone may have already posted this since I have not had a chance to read everything tonight. But, isn’t it interesting how Bubba Clinton doesn’t think people are intelligent enough to find out what he actually says or has said in the past? Here he is out there spewing out lies about Obama because he said that Reagan realized in order to get anything done in Washington you had to work with the other party to accomplish anything. And, here we find out that Bubba said things that some in the news are commenting is much more praise for Reagan than the distorted words he used against Obama when he was saying how you truly can accomplish things working together. Below are some of Bubba’s words in 1991 when he was running for the presidency:

It was a remarkable moment: A young, free-thinking presidential hopeful named Bill Clinton sat down with reporters and editors at The Washington Post in October 1991 and started saying things most Democrats wouldn't allow to pass their lips.

From Bill Clinton: Ronald Reagan, Clinton said, deserved credit for winning the Cold War. He praised Reagan's "rhetoric in defense of freedom" and his role in "advancing the idea that communism could be rolled back." "The idea that we were going to stand firm and reaffirm our containment strategy, and the fact that we forced them to spend even more when they were already producing a Cadillac defense system and a dinosaur economy, I think it hastened their undoing," Clinton declared.”

He actually said more in that interview. Now, do you think he does not truly remember uttering those words when he is out there condemning Obama for his words?

There was a great black man on Tucker Carlson tonight who I believe was a congressman from the south (sorry I did not catch his name because I had just gotten home from work and turned on the television). Tucker tried to get him to condemn Bubba for the things he has said in the last few weeks. This gentleman would not do that. His only comment was “I would like to again see the President Clinton of these past seven years who worked to bring people together and not divide them, unlike these last seven or so weeks when he has been so divisive” (not verbatim). He said Clinton’s words were going to come back to haunt him in the following years. I hope so. Both the Clinton’s deserve all the condemnation they will receive for their lies. God, I pray that she is not the candidate!!! Why do you think the Republicans want her as the candidate?

"Why do you think the Republicans want her as the candidate?"

Two possible reasons. One, Bush has them so far in the hole that the only chance they have of winning is their hard core Clinton haters put together with hard core evangelicals and their racist bits and pieces. or Two They have mountains of garbage and lies collected over the last 20 years are already to go and for Obama they would have to work a lot harder to round up the hate mongers.

Repiublicans bash whomever they think is in front
For the after Iowa and before NH they were bashing Obama in the debates.

Sweet: At New Hampshire debate, Obama gets slammed, slapped and slaughtered by GOP presidential contenders.
GOFFSTOWN, N.H.--The GOP presidential debate is providing a preview of how White House hopeful Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) will be fileted if he is the Democratic nominee. All the Republicans slammed the newly minted frontrunner as either too inexperienced or too liberal or both. They are doing what would be unthinkable by any of Obama's Democratic rivals: calling him unqualified to be president practically to his face. They collectively provided the summation of what the Republican case against Obama would include.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/01/sweet_at_new_hampshire_debate.html

link...

Dennis Kucinich is running away with delegates, and is about ready to announce he will hook up with Bill Richardson as his veep.
He is now calling on all Californians to focus on getting Cindy Sheehan elected to Nancy Pelosi's seat in Congress.
This is a all true, and it all exists in a parallel universe.
Time to go, I am the pilot of Dennis's campaign plane, the United For Ohhellyes . (UFO)

Now there's this dastardly thing called Super Delegates. Puts a monkey wrench in the whole Dem political process, IMHO. Makes ya wonder just what's the use of primaries?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18277678/

tt

Well I see that Mitt killed someone in a car crash. Didn't Mrs. Bush do the same thing?

tt

Here's the story on the Romney accident

http://boston.com/news/politics/2008/specials/romney/articles/part1_side/

The Laura Bush Accident

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/e1698.htm

Heard on "Hannity & Colmes" that the Rezko/Obama photo was taken at a Carol Mosley Braun fundraiser. The Clinton campaign has been frustrated about not being able to move this story out of Chicago. Have not heard any speculation about the source being the Clinton campaign. But it does make sense, at least to me.

Craig -- "Obama & Edwards will rue the day they let IA & NH bully them into taking their names off the Mich ballot (dumbest thing i ever saw)"

Care to expand on that? It must have been a high-level back-room deal, because it was always protrayed here (both in the press and from what I've scene on the ground) as an issue between the DNC and the candidates...

Spike -- Dean and DNC claim they were only interested in stripping FL and MI of delegates, say they took no position on the campaigning ban or the ballots. Obama and Edwards vowed not to campaign and asked to be removed from ballots to curry favor in IA and NH. Clinton only agreed to the campaign ban, wanted to stay on the ballots to preserve the option she is now choosing -- to fight to seat the delegations. MI agreed to drop Obama and Edwards, but FL would not. So now Obama and Edwards are in a rough spot as far as Michigan goes -- if Clinton gets control of the convention Credentials Cmte (which she is already moving to do) and seats Michigan/Florida then Obama & Edwards have no Michigan delegates because they weren't on the ballot. Unlike her, they did not preserve that option (which was really dumb, in my view). And by the way we are talking about something like 300 delegates in play with these two states.

Yes, I'd say that was dumb....

Craig --"Obama and Edwards vowed not to campaign and asked to be removed from ballots to curry favor in IA and NH. ...they did not preserve that option (which was really dumb, in my view)."

As far as I can ascertain, the powers that be around here didn't "bully" them taking their names off the ballot in MI. I think everything would have been copacetic (don't get to use that word everyday) with just the self-imposed ban on campaigning and the loss of delegates.

You would have thought they learned that lesson when they were kids...Never volunteer for more punishment than what your folks were going to give you in the first place...Calling it "really dumb" might have been the biggest understatement that's been uttered all day...

Here's the latest Intrade Presidential Futures Market data for the final day prior to the SC Democratic Primary.

http://www.central.edu/publicdocs/01%2D25%2D08FuturesMarketGraphs.pdf

DEMOCRATS: Nationally, Clinton is maintaining a fairly steady lead over Obama, but it has tightened very slightly in the last couple days.

In South Carolina, Obama maintains a very large lead over Clinton. Edwards' support is still much weaker than Clinton. His recent upward poll numbers have not been reflected in the futures market.

REPUBLICANS: Nationally, Romney continues to gain on McCain. Guliani and Huckabee continue their downward slide in support. Since the SC primary, Romney is the only candidate who has garnered increased support. All other candidate's positions have declined.

Romney continues to lead in Florida. In the last two days; however, Romney's lead has slipped slightly, while McCain's support picked up about the same amount. This might suggest the race is tightening in the hours prior to the primary.

Like what is happening in the national market, the support for Guliani and Huckabee continue their downward slide.

For an overview on Presidential Futures Markets, please see:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/01/florida-to-forecast-both-party-1.html#comment-16896

yep, spike, i thought at the time that they might be overreacting by pulling out of the Michigan ballot, but when it happened i pounded sources in both camps for their reasoning and both insisted that proving their loyalty to IA and NH was a brilliant move, that it would undo HRC in those states because she refused to go along with the ballot withdrawal and scuttle the FL/MI primaries. They totally dismissed the scenario that is now happening (HRC seeking to restore FL/MI delegations), which made me think that both camps were not planning for anything beyond destroying her in IA/NH and running against each other. In those days anyway, they didn't seem to have a Plan B in case that didn't work. -- gotta sign off, early MoJo tomorrow

and thanks Spike for the Futures Market updates -- i really like them now that I understand them -- better than polls and cigarettes