ORLANDO – John McCain’s erratic journey in presidential politics begins anew today in Florida’s presidential primary.
Even if the Arizona senator does not win, he can perform well enough to leverage his national fame next week on Super Duper Tuesday.
Florida is uncharted territory for McCain. So far, both of his 2008 victories evoked dramatic turning points from his first run in 2000. New Hampshire, as it did eight years ago, brought his candidacy to life. Winning South Carolina's nod last week made up for a sour loss in 2000 to George W. Bush.
But McCain arrived in Florida with little presidential campaigning history in a state that was not in the mix for his last race. A big win here would almost guarantee the gold for him. It would prove that he can win a closed primary where only party members can play, giving pause to those who say he is not a real Republican.
Losing to Mitt Romney would be a bitter defeat for McCain. The wealthy, well-born former Massachusetts governor is so Bush-like, giving the appearance of another legacy nominee who could stand in McCain's way.
While on paper it would seem that Romney’s tailored looks and outside-Washington business acumen are closer to what Florida Republicans prefer, McCain has been on the national stage a long time and, despite misgivings among conservatives, he is poised to win enough support to keep on going.
More Florida Trail Mix
Florida Primary Scene Setter
The Republicans
- Bush Talk Boosts Romney? Post-Bushie Appeal
- Romney is No Joke: The Man To Beat
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Romney Gets a Pass to the Top: A Debate Score
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McCain's Humility Offensive: Conservatives Balk
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McCain's Florida Bid Looks Cloudy: A Rough Start
The Democrats
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Florida to Test Kennedy Magic: Bump Watch
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Bowling for Florida: Clinton and Obama Sneak Around
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On to Florida: Gaming The Nation's Biggest Swing State
- Clinton Embraces Outlaw States: Credentials Fight Looms
- Florida to Forecast Both Party Races: Super Tuesday Preview
Craig on MSNBC Tuesday (1/29) All Times EST
“Morning Joe” -- 6:30 AM and 10:00 AM
“Hardball with Chris Matthews” -- 5:00 / 7:00 PM
"Decision '08," The Florida Primary -- 7:00 to 10:00 PM.
Comments
Zot.
Posted by: sturgeone | January 29, 2008 6:01 AM
I see him now, Sturg.
Did you see Romney in his Cuban shirt yesterday? Trying to win over the Cuban-Americans. He looked kind of silly.
Posted by: colleen | January 29, 2008 6:17 AM
Colleen.....yep saw that.....he's such a tool......Tomorrow he sings "Guantanamera"
Matt Taibbi in Rolling Stone:
A month ago, I was actually interested to see who won these first few races. But now that this whole affair has degenerated into a mass orgy of sports clichés and celebrity catfighting, I find myself more hoping that they all die in a fire somehow. And something tells me that most of America would hope that my colleagues and I burn up with them.
Posted by: sturgeone | January 29, 2008 6:27 AM
As noted in an earlier thread, I have a Georgia update
http://theaginghipster.blogspot.com/2008/01/georgia-presidential-primary-watch-7.html
Thats just FYI, I know our neighboring state has the spotlight today. Unfortunately (or fortunately for some of you guys I guess) this will be my only c-listing today.
Hipster
Posted by: redst3
| January 29, 2008 6:28 AM
geez, Craig, I really wish I could care about the Republicans, but I jusr don't. Maybe if I squeeze my eyes really tight and imagine it's the November finals I could get a little excited, but right now I just want to make fun of them.
Posted by: colleen | January 29, 2008 6:28 AM
lol sturgeon good one
Posted by: redst3
| January 29, 2008 6:30 AM
OK..let's see if JS will allow Craig to speak without interruption.
This could be a morning drinking game...every time JS interrupts CC, take a drink(hey, it's 5pm somewhere...right? mimosas, anyone?) :)
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| January 29, 2008 6:34 AM
Ohhhhhhh...CC is right there!!
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| January 29, 2008 6:35 AM
new game....every time Mika says, "OK...WOW!!""...drink up!!
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| January 29, 2008 6:43 AM
"politically decrepit family feeding off....."
lol
Posted by: sturgeone | January 29, 2008 6:43 AM
Very Effective.......several zingering good points against those two nitwits.......
Posted by: sturgeone | January 29, 2008 6:50 AM
alright!.... we're going to see you a lot on the teevee today, Craig....
great appearance..... love the very blue shirt with the light green tie.... so Floridian.....
JoeS got one thing right.... we should listen more to Craig Crawford when it comes to Democratic politics than to him....... ya... ya think?......
ps..... hope you didn't eat too much junk in that place....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee | January 29, 2008 6:52 AM
meeka is growing her hair. guess she got the memo that msnbc ladies are not allowed short hair, just ask chris and monica and alex and mona lisa, or whatever her name is, and all the rest
Posted by: colleen | January 29, 2008 6:53 AM
Warning: Sports cliche' to follow:
I can see that to actually converse with those two you have to just stand there flatfooted and slug it out with them.......It does look like they have a much harder time in their quest to make the guest feel like slime if the guest is actually sitting there with them.......
Good show, Old Top..........
Posted by: sturgeone | January 29, 2008 6:55 AM
morning load and his pet mika
just couldn't admit they help falsely paint Bill Clinton as racially insensitive and that no way in hell would the load ever vote for Obama
and in my view her fantasy f--k is JFK
Posted by: dead Bobby's kids | January 29, 2008 6:55 AM
Colleen.....you mean Contemptible Brewer?
(thanks kgc)
Posted by: sturgeone | January 29, 2008 6:56 AM
Great apearance on MoJo this Am. You hled firm, got in a few salient points and Joe could not counter your arguments.
You made my AM.
Posted by: elaine of tampa
| January 29, 2008 6:57 AM
Thanks to Craig on MoJo this morning I learned that Bill Clinton's comment about Jessie Jackson was just a snippet of the conversation about previous SC voting history, the part the MSM didn't want you to see or explain. Clinton's comments were not the soft racist comments the MSM portrayed. Thanks Craig for brining that to light. And here is a thought for Jo and Mika, when you ask your guest a question, out of professional; curiosity let them finish their thought before you start pilling on, and Mika look at your guest and stop your constant mugging for the camera.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| January 29, 2008 6:57 AM
the point about Bill Clinton's Jesse Jackson remark was that HE WAS ASKED if he was surprised a black man won the SC primary......why is that so hard for those weasels to grasp?
Posted by: sturgeone | January 29, 2008 6:58 AM
Post and Run.... To Work and Vote....
Interseting points today Craig, Question?? Do you write comments to compare Mitt to Bush on what basis?
Only that it would be a defeat for McCain if it happens... But I have seen unusual support grow for McCain in the last days
But how is MItt so much like Bush? Is this position statments already? I do not see it,,,
Very much NOT an accurate statement.
This brings the grade on this piece to a C+
Now off to the real world
Posted by: Ping Pong
| January 29, 2008 7:00 AM
Joe is terrible. I think Mika tries.
Posted by: mferry | January 29, 2008 7:01 AM
colleen is lright, Mika needs to become independent again and cut that hair. She is becoming Charlie Mc Carthy to Pensacola Edgar Bergen.
Posted by: elaine of tampa
| January 29, 2008 7:01 AM
Mr Fry.......exactly.........especially that vacuous and vapid "mugging at the camera" and their not letting the guest answer.
Posted by: sturgeone | January 29, 2008 7:02 AM
Morning People.
Craig saw you and have you lost some weight? I know its not from your mom so.......Not getting enough Frid Baloney Sammichs? I guess I haven't seen you since Costa Rica.
Well, you know I think you are far fetched. But then the cards are truely up in the air at this point. I don't think we can read them for one more week.
So, I for one am going to breath deep and live my life with only one hour of Joe in the morning and Keith at night until mid april...of course that is when I come home again.
But I think that is wise for me.
Posted by: Sheila Stone
| January 29, 2008 7:04 AM
Craig your point about Clinton JJ remarks were on point..
Race is the media issue of this campaig, it makes copy and makes HRC campaign have to be defensive .
Posted by: elaine of tampa
| January 29, 2008 7:05 AM
nice of msgop to make sure there is a pictue of Obama on the screen all day
morning load
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 29, 2008 7:07 AM
pogo,
Joe is terrible. I think Mika tries.
Mika tries to be terrible. Jo is nothing more than a dictating interviewer, if there is such a thing. Switching to Imus, at least he allows his guest to finish their thoughts. Hope to see Craig on Imus soon.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| January 29, 2008 7:08 AM
What a politician? What a creep? Why does she always back down from this wingnut?
Posted by: max | January 29, 2008 7:08 AM
And now creepy monkey mika is trying to pretend she is innocent of bias
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 29, 2008 7:08 AM
J just brought u up again re Kennedy endorsement. Craig u r not alone in thinkinit was a nostalgic moment but it does not mean much.
Remember whose most of Bobby Kennedy kids are endorsing.
Posted by: elaine of tampa
| January 29, 2008 7:09 AM
Here is my distillation of how the race issue has played out in this campaign, a play in one act.
MEDIA: Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race.
CLINTON CAMPAIGN: Race?
MEDIA: Hey, look! The Clintons mentioned race!
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| January 29, 2008 7:10 AM
lol
Posted by: sturgeone | January 29, 2008 7:11 AM
Imus to Joe Lieberman:
"Are you pretty much a republican now?"
lol
Posted by: sturgeone | January 29, 2008 7:11 AM
Obama recieves another major endorsement.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4235844&mesg_id=4235844
Jack ;-0
Posted by: whskyjack | January 29, 2008 7:11 AM
http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/contractSearch/index.jsp?query=fla
Clinton expected to win in Florida will Obama call and congratulate her or will he denigrate the win and sulk like he did in Nevada
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 29, 2008 7:12 AM
Jack.....that aint Jebus, it's Johnny Depp.......
Posted by: sturgeone | January 29, 2008 7:13 AM
lol@LardassLiberal. Unfortunately that is so very true of the MSM.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| January 29, 2008 7:15 AM
I guess they need the poster of Obama because there is no other diversity in the crowd
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 29, 2008 7:16 AM
I was under the weather and missed everything yesterday. What's this about an Obama endorsement? You mean the Kennedys still have political capital?
Posted by: blueINdallas | January 29, 2008 7:16 AM
Glad to make your Mom laugh , Craig. I just looked and thought "It's Lou Grant and Mary Richards!" So , Romney was in line with Bush and his policies and now he isn't? I can't keep up with these politicians these days! I'm not jumping on anybody's bandwagon right now. I'll just wait until Feb 5th and see who's left standing.
Posted by: Corey
| January 29, 2008 7:17 AM
Mika has become like nancy reagan gazing soulfully at her heroes
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 29, 2008 7:17 AM
the only diversity i saw on the beady-eye and mika show was they had an honest guest........
Posted by: sturgeone | January 29, 2008 7:19 AM
National NOW has been "nice" about Kennedy's back-stab. I wonder how many chapters like NY State NOW are expressing outrage? Here is a link to the complete press release about Kennedy from yesterday: Senator Kennedy Betrays Women by Not Standing
For Hillary Clinton for President
January 28, 2008 http://www.nownys.org/pr_2008/pr_012808.html
Posted by: GORDO | January 29, 2008 7:19 AM
RRenee,
I saw Jamie's post with your scarves!! I would love to buy a couple for Jim and me. Is that possible? If so, let me know what I need to do. :)
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| January 29, 2008 7:19 AM
For the record. I LIKE JOE AND MIKA. LOLOL
They are a great discussion team. They piss you people off and you enjoy it too. Because I've never seen so many people who love to caterwaller.
So I like Joe and Mika. I like to hear all sides and we get a snippet of all. Even Romney.
Talk Later, Sheila
Posted by: Sheila Stone
| January 29, 2008 7:19 AM
It's sad to see such a deliberate distortion of reality. Even journalists whose work I greatly admire -- folks like Eugene Robinson -- are stumbling around in this house of mirrors that has been constructed. I mean, all the situation calls for is basic reporting and fact-checking. Journalism 101. Like...oh...you mean Clinton was actually in the middle of a conversation about how black candidates have done in SC in the past? Oh, okay. That explains why he said "Jesse Jackson."
But that never seems to happen until days or weeks after the fact.
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| January 29, 2008 7:21 AM
Yes, Mika has blown her authenticity this week fr sure. But I heard him reprimand her last week with a smart retort. He told her it isnt your ame on title of this show. He needed a punch!
Posted by: elaine of tampa
| January 29, 2008 7:22 AM
Sheila......truth....I am happy that you like them.....that's what it's all about......they do piss me off but no.....I dont enjoy it.....I see them when CC is on and then it's back to Imus who pisses me off sometimes but I do enjoy it.......
Caterwaller over.......
lol
Posted by: sturgeone | January 29, 2008 7:23 AM
Joe and Mika are a disgrace and nbc should be listing inkind contributions to the Obama campaign
if you think you get all sides from watching them
welcome to the flat earth society
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 29, 2008 7:23 AM
The whole relationship between Joe and Mika is so sexist it's sickening. They might as well just rename the show "Joe and his Help Meet", or "Joe's Rib."
She should be ashamed of herself for sacrificing her professionalism like that.
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| January 29, 2008 7:23 AM
Jack,
Now THAT endorsement is gonna piss off the Clintons.
Posted by: dnd | January 29, 2008 7:24 AM
Well anyway before I take my Shower,
CRAIG, I think that Romney is going to pick up the nom for the DEMS. It hink thats the only call we can make with some easy confidence.
But I really do get the sense that the REPS are still luke warm on him. I still get the sense that Reagan Dems like myself will jump and vote for anyone, rather than vote for Romney AKA "Good Time KEN".
Posted by: Sheila Stone
| January 29, 2008 7:25 AM
J is a self described redneck! He proves it everyday.
Posted by: elaine of tampa
| January 29, 2008 7:25 AM
I say this as someone who was spit on by white men at the age of 18, walking to help out at a Civil Rights Rally...and am pretty damned conscious of the so-called codes....this race thing has been ginned up. It makes one helluva news cycle.
Context is NEVER reported. As with the Jesse Jackson comment. (Jesse ought to be pissed that the press is making him out to be such a pariah. Jesse's biggest crime is being a media hog.)
And the sight of conservative pundits now calling Teddy the Lion of the Senate, when you KNOW how much they hate him is hysterical. I happen to love Teddy Kennedy's politics, with the exception of No Child Left Behind, but I know the right is thrilled to have him as a club with which to pound Obama in a general.
I mentioned yesterday that I had to be at Vandy med center all day and would check in with a pal, middle-aged political type black guy. He thinks iit's been ginned up too, despite his questions about the bringing up of drug use. He hated the Robert Johnson crap and said with Johnson's history and ego, the Clintons should never have let him out there.
He's a solid Obama supporter, but here's one of his problems: he said he is worried that many of the young people he runs into who are furious did NOT even know who Lyndon Johnson was. They had no context to put it in anyway. He says the generational divide is very big....BUT almost all except a few older women he knows in the black community are planning to turn out strong for Barack in the Tennessee primary.
One more interesting comment. I told him, and I believe this, that NOT running hard against Obama in a primary would constitute real racism. He made a very observant point. "Yeah, and I worry about this -- I hope the press doesn't somehow change him from the black candidate to appearing to be the Affirmative Action candidate."
If you chew on that for awhile, you'll see he has a helluvapoint.
Posted by: Patsi | January 29, 2008 7:25 AM
LardassLibera,
Thanks to Craig this morning on MoJo for being the ONLY person i have heard who has exposed the true story behind Clinton's JJ remarks. As everyone here knows I am no Clinton butt boy, but fair is fair, and what the MSM has done to portray Clinton's comment in a racist way is certainly not fair.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| January 29, 2008 7:26 AM
Sturg,
To tell the truth....I LOVE the word Caterwaller. My Grandma, "Oh STOP your Caterwallering!" LOL
Posted by: Sheila Stone
| January 29, 2008 7:27 AM
Sheila Made a mistake.....
CRAIG, I think that Romney is going to pick up the nom for the DEMS...should be. REPS
COFFEE......
Posted by: Sheila Stone
| January 29, 2008 7:28 AM
if Mc Cain continues his more war talk and no jobs, I want him as the nominee he will get smashed in general election.
PS I think Scarborough copies people if he thinks they ar right or poular, right now he is trying to be the AM chris matthews. I think one at night is too much.
Posted by: elaine of tampa
| January 29, 2008 7:30 AM
I agree Fry. Seems like there is most definitely an inverse relationship between the number of so-called "reporters" covering a campaign and the amount of truth that is revealed.
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| January 29, 2008 7:30 AM
And Fry,
Watching SOTU and DEM Response TRUMPED the Thesus you want from me. I'll do it this weekend in between my painting. ;0)
You could relieve these peoples burden of a long post by writing me at chefstonesheila at gee mail dot com and I will forward a finished master piece to you.
Posted by: Sheila Stone
| January 29, 2008 7:32 AM
Hi "Sheila Stone" --- are you one and same with just plain "Sheila"?
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| January 29, 2008 7:34 AM
What happened to The Plunger's eye brows
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 29, 2008 7:35 AM
Sheila.....you must love "catercornered" then.......?
Posted by: sturgeone | January 29, 2008 7:35 AM
Jeff Greenfield on Imus now.
Posted by: sturgeone | January 29, 2008 7:36 AM
former junior speechwriter for RFK, writer for national lampoon, etc......(greenfield)
Posted by: sturgeone | January 29, 2008 7:38 AM
Yes LL,
I am on a different computer and for some reason it decided to show my whole name and won't let me into the edit area.
OK lol Heading for the Caterwaller area...the Bath! lol
Posted by: Sheila Stone
| January 29, 2008 7:39 AM
Sheila, I know how that can be. Sometimes my middle name shows up by mistake: Lardass Meriwether Liberal.
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| January 29, 2008 7:40 AM
Sheila,
chefstonesheila at gee mail dot com
I am glad I went to code encryption school. lol I will do as you suggested.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| January 29, 2008 7:45 AM
Ahhhhhnold gives his view of the family split
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/01/29/MNOSUNR7E.DTL
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 29, 2008 7:46 AM
Sorry if I missed any comments on this, but is that a life-size poster of Obama behind Joe and Miki?
Talk about product placement. Guess it helps when your sister is the co-host.
Posted by: Shannon | January 29, 2008 7:51 AM
Sturg,
Greenfield was, as usual, great on Imus.
Posted by: dnd | January 29, 2008 7:55 AM
Corey,
Mary & Lou are good, but after you mentioned it, I thought if Cheney would lose about 50 lbs, they could be Ma & Pa Kettle.
Posted by: dnd | January 29, 2008 7:56 AM
Isn't that funny, Shannon? "Barack" came in during Craig's interview...LOL!!
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| January 29, 2008 7:57 AM
LMAO @ squirrel sandwich
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| January 29, 2008 8:00 AM
The good news for Clinton supporters about Teddy's endorsement for Obama, is Teddy's endorsement record. If there wasn't bad blood between the Clintons and that side of the Kennedy clan, there is now. This must have been festering for some time and has just now surfaced. What was the genesis for this feud?
Posted by: FryDaddy
| January 29, 2008 8:02 AM
I listened to Craig, of course, but I was stripping wallpaper and just now looked at it. (He's the only reason I'm watching/listening to it now.)
Unbelievable!
Posted by: Shannon | January 29, 2008 8:02 AM
I hate how JS twists peoples' words!! CC never said Kennedy is a "loser".
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| January 29, 2008 8:07 AM
How does he get away with that, anyway?
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| January 29, 2008 8:07 AM
Patsi
good post
From Jesse Jacksons interview in the NYtimes, I don't believe he is thrilled with his name being equated with a racial slur by the party left wing. He was very diplomatic which is something for Jesse. But very firm in his statement that Clinton was a friend of African - Americans.
Some thoughts about receiving a Kennedy endorsement.
It gives you the left wing dreamers especially those that miss the 60's. Out in the big world that is a small population. Here in the heartland they are mostly concentrated around college towns but not so much in the rest of the state.
The bad thing about a Kennedy endorsement is you get all of his enemies. Kennedy's slash and burn maverick style has not only made him enemies with the Republicans but also with many Democrats. Face it once you get out of sight of the east coast Kennedy is a punchline to a crude joke.
So what does the Kennedy nomination do? It tends to isolate him to the left which may or may not hurt him in the up coming primaries but is a killer for the general election. Get used to the world being plastered with the picture of Obama hugging Kennedy.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | January 29, 2008 8:07 AM
If any of you are feeling witty this morning , head over to my blog and give the latest pic a caption or two. I've got it started.
http://themitchellblog.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Corey
| January 29, 2008 8:09 AM
Also...Patsi and WJack, let's not forget that Jesse Jackson was Bill Clinton's closest spiritual advisor during the worst days of Monica-gate. Remember? He made several trips and spent several long hours with Clinton in the White House. So it's no surprise to me that he would stick by him now. Just as it's hard to believe that Clinton would just reduce him to some sort of racial cartoon to get votes in South Carolina.
I'd love to see the entire transcript of the conversation leading up to the Jesse Jackson reference. Craig, do you know if it was captured on tape?
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| January 29, 2008 8:16 AM
LushIsLinda,
Between JS and Matthews it would be a toss-up on who does the most twisting of words. I have watched Matthews on a number of occasions after he has completed an interview only to report the opposite of what the guest had just said. It is like they are saying, 'I don't care what you say, this is what I think, and this is what I am going to report'.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| January 29, 2008 8:17 AM
Glad I woke up in time to see Craig. At least someone has the good taste to think that just maybe the voters should have been given a chance to speak their piece at least through Super Tuesday before events such as yesterday.
As I said yesterday, in modern politics voters are no longer necessary. The media and super powerful in each party just tell them what to do. In a few years, they can just eliminate the voting booth entirely.
Posted by: jamie | January 29, 2008 8:20 AM
Fry...I think what you're describing is part of the larger phenomenon of allowing non-journalists to play the role of journalists. Matthews was a columnist for the SanFrancisco Chronicle for awhile...but that's it. Scarborough is absolutely not a journalist. But they and others similarly lacking all get to sit in "the Cronkite chair", so to speak and assume the voice of authority.
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| January 29, 2008 8:21 AM
mornin' all.
I don't know what I was thinking, but I watched reruns last night - Bush's SOU. Home dentistry is normally very painful, but last night's SOU was more like the anesthesia than the drilling/filling.
Well, Craig, I have to hand it to you buddy, giving it back to Joe when he claimed you are in Clinton's camp - calling him out as being in Obama's camp. Joe & Tucker are cut from the same cloth - only difference is that Joe has gone through puberty and Tucker is still in it. But since those two great thinkers have now essentially declared Hillary's presidential run dead I guess I'll change horses and ride with Obama - just kidding.
Fry, have to agree (7:08) - Joe is terrible, Mika does try. I think she may have watched point/counterpoint at some time in her life and realized that there are usually at least 2 sides to every issue.
Lardass, EXACTLY!!!! RFLMAO
Posted by: pogo
| January 29, 2008 8:22 AM
Matthews and Scarborough would be fine guests on any show. They simply should not be allowed to host a show. At least, not a show that wants to maintain any pretense of objectivity.
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| January 29, 2008 8:23 AM
Fry,
'I don't care what you say, this is what I think, and this is what I am going to report'
You get a Kewpie doll for that. EXACTLY.
On to work, Later Gators.
Posted by: Sheila Stone
| January 29, 2008 8:23 AM
Fry
I think it is the old feud left over from 1980 and beyond. Kennedy is very much a maverick and has made a lot of enemies over the years. He has found himself isolated in the senate, putting together the occasional "strange bedfellows" deal but that is about all. Kennedy represents a caucus of one in the senate. Add in to the fact he is a camera hog and extremely needy of public attention and you get the spectacle we got yesterday.
I guess you can tell Kennedy is not one of my favorite Democrats.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | January 29, 2008 8:24 AM
Why do I watch Morning Joe, the two of them are addictive. They're bouncing abound saying everything from funny to profound (usually in between however) just like Crawford Gang!
Top of the morning, craig!!! I guess i already missed him this morning. It takes an early riser and not no time miser, to catch the opening shot.
I mean, do you people get up real early and chat and then shower and go to work? You do work, don't you?
How many sneak comments at work? (assuming a computer is available). Let's see those hands up on the keyboard.
Still trying to detect rhythms and patterns here. My motto is, no matter how serious, laugh as much as possible or it's gonna be a long (1-5-10-etc) years!
Superstars here? Or do we all shine on? Take me to your leader! Not Craig -- the real leader that's like Freesmasons secret temple grand master than makes the blog so potent.
Awww, have a nice day.
George Buddy
Posted by: Buddy
| January 29, 2008 8:25 AM
Don't worry Fry, you'll be back in love with Scarborough during the general.
With the exception of the one guy I mentioned earlier who voted for Obama here in TN (early voting), all men I talked to voted for McCain. A couple of women voted for Hillary and a couple for Obama. One for Edwards. (I wore my Hillary jacket just so people would want to talk (friendly) politics. The only really nagative I got was in the parking garage elevator when a woman looked at the jacket, wrinkled up her nose, and grunted.
Posted by: Patsi | January 29, 2008 8:26 AM
The country Bush inherited, and the one he leaves behind:
http://www.bartcop.com/bush-econ-chart-page108.htm
Posted by: Patsi | January 29, 2008 8:30 AM
Lardass, I really don't believe that Clinton reduced Jesse to a cartoon - I believe the media did that by editing out the context of his comment. If Craig is right, it was in the context of a conversation about a black winning SC - hard to answer a question like that without mentioning Jesse.
Fry, I think what you are seeing between Clinton and Kennedy is a realization by Kennedy that their run as the anchor in Congress is about over, that Bill has become the lion of the Democratic party, and if Clinton wins the presidency, the "change" he will be facing is that the Clintons will have done what he Kennedys did not do - establish a national political dynasty from the oval office (which of course will effectively end when Hillary's term ends if she is elected). The flip side of the coin is that if Clinton loses and she remains in the Senate, his leadership will be directly challenged by her. Safe to say they are at odds.
Oh, and Fry, don't underestimate Tucker's ability to twist words - he does it with the best of them.
Posted by: pogo
| January 29, 2008 8:34 AM
And aside from the cutout of Obama - did you get a load of the folks at the counter in the diner? How'd they get that gig?
Posted by: pogo
| January 29, 2008 8:40 AM
LardassLiberal ,
the larger phenomenon of allowing non-journalists to play the role of journalists.
Exactly. And to further cloud the issue, their misleading comments are often given credit by members of the MSM in their reporting. When was the last time you have heard a retraction on the national nightly news. Very rare, if ever. Will there be a full airing of Bill Clinton's JJ comments? I seriously doubt it, it just doesn't support their agenda. On issues like this is where Liberal, Democrat, Conservative, Republican can reach common ground.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| January 29, 2008 8:41 AM
Patsi,
I never liked JS. There is something about him that reminds me of the sound created when you drag your finger nails across a chalkboard. JS has nothing I wish to hear and that is why I have stopped watching him, except when Craig is on.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| January 29, 2008 8:48 AM
dnd,
Don't see you much these days, but I have got some news for you if you have not bought your Dell computer. I just learned last Friday that Dell has just started shipping their computers with Windows XP, instead of Vista, but you have to ask for XP. Seems like Dell got tired of all the complaints about Windows Vista. Just thought you like to know.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| January 29, 2008 8:55 AM
"OBAMA PORTRAIT MUSIC VIDEO" on Youtube - Don't Miss It!
For those of you who still have not heard:
There is a WONDERFUL and INSPIRING music video on Youtube.com entitled "Obama Portrait Music Video by Bjarne O."
You can use the free downloaded high-quality stereo version from the composer's website in DVD form to show at house parties and fundraisers. Even people who knew nothing at all about Obama have been moved: either a thrilling introduction, or further inspiration for those of us who already know and fight for Obama.
The music soundtrack, which incorporates excerpts from the famous 2004 speech, can also be downloaded separately in high-quality.
So please, SPREAD THE WORD!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mCPwbozpIzM
YES WE CAN
Anne
Posted by: annevilla | January 29, 2008 8:57 AM
Someone check hell for ice cubes. I miss Imus.
Posted by: jamie | January 29, 2008 8:58 AM
If I had an house party and played that people would walk out saying...where's the beef
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 29, 2008 9:00 AM
It was Obama's day yesterday but he blew it a bit. Ted was at the top of his game, had the crowd going and the Obama came on, he was low key not that excited like he was the other night in SC. You got to take advantage of that. The Press is eating this up. Maybe he thought of Howard Dean's scream and did not want to go down that road. But he's got a free ride right now, go for it. This all comes with experience. Maybe Ted's there to teach him how it's done. If not this time, then next time.
Posted by: vadaryl
| January 29, 2008 9:02 AM
annevilla,
Obama's words in this video, except for his personal life's reflections, and has been spoken by many a politician. It tells the story of what we all wants, so you could put any face on that video. The video was very well produced. Kudos to the Obama team for coming out with it first.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| January 29, 2008 9:11 AM
Political Cortex - Destruction of the Dollar
http://www.politicalcortex.com/
Thanks George
Posted by: jamie | January 29, 2008 9:11 AM
Maybe Ted's there to teach him how it's done. If not this time, then next time.
Posted by: vadaryl | January 29, 2008 9:02 AM
except Obama has said he will not run again
How's that for commitment to change
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 29, 2008 9:13 AM
I have a question for Obama supporters. (KGC -- and other Hillary voters....please don't use this question as an excuse to hurl insults at Obama all over the room. I know who you support. The same person as I do. Take this as a serious question and not an opportunity to attack.)
Set up for question: I heard a lot of campaign talk prior to 2006 about changing direction in Washington, stopping the war, stopping George Bush, etc. When the Democrats got a slim majority and couldn't completely turn things around, many Democrats were livid. I have seen more howling about selling out than I have in years.
Given that, here's the question: What happens if Barack Obama is president and the world doesn't change? Race is still an issue. Sexism is still an issue. Universal healthcare does not happen. The international community doesn't love us. Democrats and Republicans still squabble and obstruct each other.
Obama has said it all changes with his election. What if it does not?
Posted by: Patsi | January 29, 2008 9:14 AM
Jamie,
"Someone check hell for ice cubes. I miss Imus."
http://www.wabcradio.com/article.asp?id=122648
Posted by: dnd | January 29, 2008 9:14 AM
The Repubs have already picked a running mate for Obama. Regardless of Obama's choice, the ticket would be Obama/Kennedy . That is a general election disaster! Obama supporters need to wake up---stop dreaming and get real.
Posted by: GORDO | January 29, 2008 9:22 AM
Found this article about the Obama/JFK comparison. Makes an interesting read.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2008/0801w.widmer.html
Posted by: Pauline | January 29, 2008 9:23 AM
Patsi-
Nothing will change. Oh sure there may bet historic changes due to events unforeseen. But if Americans want change in their personal lives, they need to get off their big fat lazy butts and start to make changes in their homes, their cities, their schools, and in their own lives.
Real change can only happen when people change their own behavior. Change is a grass roots phenomenon. Waiting to see all the changes that effect your day to day life from Washington - is like waiting for someone else to make you happy.
That said, I think there are plenty of people, "who believe" some sort of miracle is going to happen if OBAMA is elected. That is what Obama is selling and the masses are buying.
You want change, then create change...it takes work, involvement, time and effort. And you don't have to wait for an election!!!!!
H20
Posted by: h20storm
| January 29, 2008 9:25 AM
I miss SNL :(
I can't begin to imagine how much fun they would be having with all the candidates/primaries!!
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| January 29, 2008 9:26 AM
kc, Obama's commitment is apparently time limited - now or never.
Posted by: pogo
| January 29, 2008 9:27 AM
An aside: Here is a change I will predict today. Stem cell research will enjoy massive support very soon. The Today Show just reported that because of stem cell research a cure for baldness is probably two years away.
Posted by: Patsi | January 29, 2008 9:28 AM
For the readers amongst us, I just read an incredible review of one of my favorite multi volume historical novels with a political twist: The Raj Quartet
If you like reviews that actually tell you something important about the books, check this out:
http://www.powells.com/blog/?p=2856%3Futm_source%3Dreview-a-day;utm_medium=email;utm_campaign=rad_20080129;utm_content=Post%20to%20Blog
Posted by: jamie | January 29, 2008 9:31 AM
imagine how fast STEM CELL research would be approve if it made men's (you know whats )bigger!
It would already be approved.
Posted by: h20storm
| January 29, 2008 9:32 AM
Good Mornin' Y'all- I'm off to vote this morning- guessing I may just flip coin,LOL.
Just finished reading all the comments from last night.
A few observations-
Nash- I'm afraid all that hatred you carry for anyone/ anything Republican is going going to give you heart attack.
I certainly do not care for Hillary Clinton but I don't see the need to ugly about her or any Democrat for that matter.
From Sturgeone- "come time for the general election if the media still pushed for obama, I'd be pleased.....but I think the media will be pushing whatever republican makes the nomination.....and then we might be both howling at the same moon......."
Are we living in the same country? I may be 39, but don't remember any lovefest for any Republican by the MSM (not including Fox in this). McCain is the only one they seem to like but usually only when he going against Republicans. Thier love for him is probably one of the reasons I won't vote for him.
As for the SOTU- I didn't watch it, Bush's term is almost done and he's basically a non-issue at this point.
Okay that's all from me for now, Have a great day!
Posted by: JennBe
| January 29, 2008 9:33 AM
Jamie,
You may have noticed world markets shutter, take horrendous dives at the very thought of a unstable US economy. The DOW was down 171 points on Friday, come Monday morning the Asian markets were down 4%+. What did the DOW do yesterday, up 176 points. As to your link, i become immediately suspect of stories when I see the 600,000 Iraqi dead figures. If they use misleading figures like that what other misleading figures are they touting. BTW, the Fed will cut interest rates again this week anywhere from 25 to 50 basis points, that will also lower the US dollar against some foreign currencies. But since we are the world's largest importer/consumer of goods, they will have to lower their prices to keep up with the falling dollar if they wish to keep up their sales and revenues. That is what foreign governments have been complaining about for some time now, the falling US dollar driving their economies down.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| January 29, 2008 9:38 AM
Does OBAMA have living relatives in Kenya?
I was wondering because I never hear any talk about it in relation to the current violence there.
Posted by: h20storm
| January 29, 2008 9:39 AM
All this talk about change is good - it gets voters, expecially young ones more excited with the process than they would otherwise be. My problem with Obama's change rhetoric, however, is that much of the change he talks about if he is elected requires the cooperation and participation of those on the other side of the aisle. The Republicans will have absolutely no incentive to work to make an Obama presidency successful, and are nothing if not resistant to change. Does anyopne believe that there will be enough senators who have an epiphany and come to the realization that Obama's vision of the future is just what the country needs? If anything happens that suggests that, I'll be among the first to get on the bandwagon, but my prediction is that if Obama is elected unless the Dems can put 61 Dem senators in seats in Nov., the only change that will be apparent following an Obama election is whose legislation stalls in the senate.
And actually digressing to the thread topic, I hope the latest FL polls are right - McCain and Romney are deadlocked and Rudi and Huckleberry are deadlocked about 15-20 points behind. This could be curtains for both of them, and I say thank god.
Posted by: pogo
| January 29, 2008 9:44 AM
Cure baldness....why??????
I don't like men who exaggerate
about the places they've been
about the money they've made
I like a man who's honest and true
You can look him in the eye
When he's talking to you
I like men who accept who they are
Not everyone can look like a movie star
If you can follow this thought
to it's logical end
You can see why I like bald-headed men
. . . ooh, I like bald-headed men
Everyone knows that it's testosterone
that turns bushy-haired men into a chrome dome
But testosterone is what makes a man a man
The more that he's got the more that he can
Do the things that make the women go "Oy!"
I'll take the bald-headed man over a big-haired boy
Big-haired boys make very good friends
But they cannot compare to bald-headed men
I've said it before
I'll say it again
I like bald-headed men
So why did you waste your money
joining that hair club for guys?
Oh, why would you cover your manly badge of honor
with such a bad disguise?
Oh, why would you throw away money on Rogaine and Minoxidil?
When all they can guarantee are years and years of pharmacy bills
. . . please don't do it!
I believe the hair replacement industry for men
is like the cosmetic industry for women
A giant black hole that will suck your money away
for the rest of your life
. . . please don't do it!
No matter how you fight it, time marches on
Some new things appear, some old things are gone
Let it move - - it's a natural thing
Like a leaf on a tree or a bird on a wing
Try looking in your mirror from a whole different place
You're not losing hair, you're gaining face
Be confident! Be cool! It won't be long when
You are bound to be one of the bald-headed men
Said it before
I'll say it again
I love bald-headed men
Christine Lavin
Live at the Cactus Cafe
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| January 29, 2008 9:45 AM
Patsi, if stem cell research can come up with a cure for baldness, I'm all for it.:-) And storm, you are right - women would have demanded it by now. (CS)
Posted by: pogo
| January 29, 2008 9:47 AM
Hey all, long time no see. I don't want McCain to win and yet he might be the best of the bunch. I won't vote for him becuase I'm liberal.
I wouldn't be able to stand the thought of a President Huckabee. I don't understand how someone who doesn't like anybody whose not catholic and basically looks like that he wants open prayer in schools could be a front runner.
Posted by: Rob
| January 29, 2008 9:55 AM
Patsi,
Given that, here's the question: What happens if Barack Obama is president and the world doesn't change? Race is still an issue. Sexism is still an issue. Universal healthcare does not happen. The international community doesn't love us. Democrats and Republicans still squabble and obstruct each other.
Obama has said it all changes with his election. What if it does not?
Governments can not change peoples minds like the flipping of a light switch. So racism, sexism will continue, along with poor, homeless, health care, wars, crime, the world will not love us, and the Rs and Ds will continue to squabble. That is what so maddening about pie in the sky promises, people actually believe the day a certain politician takes office thing are automatically going to change. I am willing to bet anyone here should Obama get elected to POTUS and once the TS information, which has not been made available to him at this time, on the conditions in the Middle East, what are the cause and affect of removing US troops from that hot spot, I'll bet he'll come before the American people and tell them things beyond his control have caused him to delay his plans for withdrawal.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| January 29, 2008 9:55 AM
Since I have accepted my baldness as inevitable and irreversible - and haven't tried any of that silly shit that makes a bald head fuzzy - I think I'll send Christine Lavin a thank you note - she finds herself in good company with Mrs.Pogo (although I do wish the hair I had was still around).
Posted by: pogo
| January 29, 2008 9:55 AM
Does OBAMA have living relatives in Kenya?
I believe his grandmother.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| January 29, 2008 9:57 AM
I don't know if my comments showed up so first of all, I'm the original Rob and I said that McCain is the worst of a bad lot.
I don't know how Huckabee could be a front runner and want to change the nation into a catholic only oriented nation.
Posted by: Rob
| January 29, 2008 9:58 AM
Rob, welcome back. I think you'd find that Huckleberry ain't real keen on catholics. Baptists and Catholics in the south aren't exactly cut from the same cloth.
Posted by: pogo
| January 29, 2008 9:59 AM
Craig rocked on MoJo. Give 'em hell, buddy!
Posted by: JoeCHI
| January 29, 2008 9:59 AM
"I woke up this morning thinking about the long amount of time Brian Williams spent on shaking his head mournrfully on the Evening News last night, then after the State of the Union speech, wondering to both Andrea Mitchell and Timmeh just what was Bill Clinton doing, how had he gone wrong, was he destroying Hillary's candidacy--with his subtle racism.
And it hit me that we are seeing the second impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton, and, as with the first one, it is for political reasons. But this time the visible impeachment leaders are the MCM. We can surmise the hand of, say, a Karl Rove--but those bringing charges are the MCMers, Village subset, clutching their pearls, speaking more in sorrow than in anger (just now) of Bill Clinton's heretofore unseen, unknown racism, and how it will affect the black vote in November.
They are presenting the "case" to the American public, gaining MCMer prosecutors as they to along, and even some Democratic politicians are getting on board.
The first impeachment did not destroy Bill Clinton, and his popularity with the public stayed high, even growing after he left office. This time, by using the charge of racism based on the magic of selected quotes and truncated statements, they hope to drive down, if not destroy, his longstanding goodwill from the public.
It is so fortuitous that they can kill two birds with one stone in this: Impeach Bill Clinton, successfully this time in their eyes, and destroy his wife's presidential hopes, either in the primary or the general. Then, they can get their Village control back to its rightful leaders.
Racism is a charge which is poisonous in the Democratic Party and with much of the American public. The MCM is not going to let this opportunity to make it stick against William Jefferson Clinton go by. Racism is a charge which allows no sympathy for the one so charged. It's the dog brutality charge of center and left politics.
This is a very serious attempt by Very Serious People to get Bill Clinton out of our national discourse.
jawbone | Homepage | 01.29.08 - 9:59 am | # "
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 29, 2008 9:59 AM
:) @ pogo
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| January 29, 2008 10:00 AM
Now my comments showed up :) I'll be Rob43 now becuase I see theres another Rob on here. :)
Posted by: Rob
| January 29, 2008 10:00 AM
Lol hey Rob I saw you responded.
Hmm, I still showed up as Rob, I guess I'll have to sign my posts.
It's funny too, my family are Southern baptists but they are very liberal in the sense that they are repulsed by the idea of there being no seperation of church and state.
-Rob43
Posted by: Rob
| January 29, 2008 10:04 AM
Lardass..... you make me smile..... :)
Patsi..... thanks for the report on your conversations from yesterday....
I hope your tests will come out good.....
Lush... you can email me at : weaver11 at mac dot com.....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee | January 29, 2008 10:06 AM
KG Cracker,
Do you or anybody know what happened to Rove, didn't he quit to join Giulliani's campaign?
-Rob43
Posted by: Rob
| January 29, 2008 10:06 AM
Thanks, RRenee!!
I will show up as Linda Vanik :)
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| January 29, 2008 10:08 AM
KGC -- I agree with your second impeachment theory. And my thinking that way has absolutely nothing to do with Obama's candicacy. Every time Joe Scarborough opens his mouth it takes me back to when Bob Barr and Tom DeLay were frothing on the floor of the House.
Posted by: Patsi | January 29, 2008 10:08 AM
well we know where Rove won't be
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/entertainment/2004150881_eye29.html
I had not heard that he joined the Plunger's campaign
but they would have been a natural fit...sleazy and disgusting and downright dishonest and mean.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 29, 2008 10:11 AM
Yes Obama has relatives in Kenya. In fact he created quite a stir awhile back when he went there to visit his grandmother as well as a host of relatives from that side of the family.
Recently, there was a news report where his grandmother was interviewed. At time time it was mentioned that Obama had asked to be kept aprized of any danger to the village.
There is a write up in Huffington Post today
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/obamas-kenyan-family
Posted by: jamie | January 29, 2008 10:13 AM
Rob, if your family are southern baptist, are liberal and are repuled by the idea of there being no separation of church and state, they must feel very lonely in their congregation. In most Southern Baptist churches there would be a call for their excommunication - right up to the point that the parishioners realized that occurs in Catholic churches.
Posted by: pogo
| January 29, 2008 10:14 AM
Hi Rob
Welcome home. Now someone run out and get PoP and we can hold a real reunion.
Posted by: jamie | January 29, 2008 10:17 AM
Sturgeone... it seems rather difficult for the Obama partisans in this area to understand, or they just want to demonize the Clintons so much that they refuse to believe it. Ask Brian...
"the point about Bill Clinton's Jesse Jackson remark was that HE WAS ASKED if he was surprised a black man won the SC primary......why is that so hard for those weasels to grasp?"
Posted by: EuroTom
| January 29, 2008 10:17 AM
Thanks Jamie for the link of Obama Grandmother.
Posted by: h20storm
| January 29, 2008 10:19 AM
I am actually going to see Bill Clnton today, I have a feeling they were having trouble filling the hall, as I recieved two different invitations. The first one was specific and the second, later in the day, was a general appeal.
Maybe that is how these things work. It was very last minute, an invite yesterday for an event today.
Posted by: h20storm
| January 29, 2008 10:22 AM
OMG...Scarborough is such a BABY....he gets visibly upset, when he feels Mika is defending Bill Clinton!!
Unbelievable...
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| January 29, 2008 10:24 AM
Morning Load is pathetic.
How little self respect can you have for yourself to end up the host of a low rated cable show with little or no money for research or actual reporting.
I guess all NBC cares about is having a megaphone for their own agenda.
And he is fat.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 29, 2008 10:26 AM
LINDA... I have that CD !!!!!!!
Also the Bitchin' Babes. I have known Christine Lavin from our radio station having her perform at The Evergreen State College several times. She is AWESOME! I even played selections on the CD on my ex-radio program in Eschede THe Netherlands "American Flavors". "Live at the Cactus Cafe" had her last public performance about Dan Quayle and her BRILLIANT song... "We are the Republicans"...
Posted by: EuroTom
| January 29, 2008 10:26 AM
On MOJO this AM:
JS could not resist his urge to dig at Hillary when he was talking about republicans and the RUDY sandwich. Totally off topic - he snipes " Hillary doesn't have a sandwich" .
JS is an ass. For many reasons not worth my time to list.
Posted by: h20storm
| January 29, 2008 10:31 AM
Morning peeps,
So who's on the menu to be carved up today?
Posted by: Brian In NYC
| January 29, 2008 10:35 AM
XOXOXOX @ EuroTom!!
I love her !! WOW...have you met her???
I have actually posted the lyrics(here) for..
--Dear Dan
--We are the True Americans
--Music to Operate By
I keep waiting for people to tell me to stop it...but I can't help myself!!
I wish I knew how to post the actual song--like MadMustard does, with music, on his blog.
I always say...if there is a situation in life, chances are CL has written a song about it.
The other night, someone mentioned something about Rudi's wife talking to John McCain and that she was "trading up"....I did resist posting the TRADING UP lyrics!!!....LOL!!!
I have all her music, on my iPod. I, have seen her many times, in concert :)
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| January 29, 2008 10:36 AM
Good Afternoon Tom,
I see you have been seduced into this warmest of all political sites. Now you will never get free. Disappear for a month and we come and hunt you down to drag you back to the party.
So just sit down in that comfy chair in front of the fire, grab a nice buttered rum or something and become resigned to your fate.
Posted by: jamie | January 29, 2008 10:37 AM
**and he is fat**
LMAO @ KGC
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| January 29, 2008 10:39 AM
Lil
If the song is on You Tube, it is easy to link. Do you know how to "copy and paste". If so, just go to the site of the song, copy the URL at the top of the page and then paste that URL here.
Here is one from the Central Park concert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbq-fL_PXIg
Posted by: jamie | January 29, 2008 10:43 AM
KgC said this,"And he is fat."
Hey, Who you callin' fat. I resemble that remark and I am not Load Mouth.
yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: Horsedooty! | January 29, 2008 10:46 AM
doots
not you of course. I am sure you like me are just comfortable and well upholstered.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 29, 2008 10:48 AM
Ok...I tried it...see if it worked
Christine Lavin
WE ARE THE TRUE AMERICANS
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bhDc_EEDKaQ
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| January 29, 2008 10:52 AM
Joe S. doesn't know what to do with Craig. It is great entertainment to watch Craig throw reality in Joe''s face.
MSNBC has turned into a joke, challenging FOX News for being the king of gutter political journalism.
Posted by: Oregon Democrat | January 29, 2008 10:52 AM
Wow...that's her updated version!!
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| January 29, 2008 10:53 AM
A couple of things about the SOTU last night.
First , I really can't stand to watch Bush. 30 seconds was my limit last night. I've never been this way with any other president.
Second, did Dick Cheny look as if he had been wheeled in from the nursing home to anyone else?
Makes me wonder if his health problems may be worse than has been reported.
of course having his nurse setting along side him.......
;-P
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack | January 29, 2008 10:54 AM
Thanks, Jamie :)
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| January 29, 2008 10:54 AM
hey load and daisy Obama was an hour and half late on Sat..
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 29, 2008 10:57 AM
The guy from the Dukes of Hazzard who was a member of Congress..just called Mika the Daisy Duke of morning television.
not a compliment
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 29, 2008 10:58 AM
jack, dick looked like they took him off his slab and propped him up by nancy.
Posted by: pogo
| January 29, 2008 10:58 AM
Cooter calls Mika the "Daisy Duke of Morning TV" and she goes all speechless and cutely offended while leaning back, jutting out chest, and sitting so that you can see the distance between the short short skirt and the high top of her boots made for walking.
Okay, she brings out the catty, but that's what happens to kitty litter.
Posted by: jamie | January 29, 2008 10:59 AM
Ah, well I see Mika is on the carving board for morning fare. Who will we be dicing and slicing for lunch?
Posted by: Brian In NYC
| January 29, 2008 11:13 AM
jamie, Cooter? lololol
Posted by: pogo
| January 29, 2008 11:23 AM
Sebelius just announced for Obama as mentioned here after the SOTU last night.
Okay Craig, Is it now official: We have two wings of the Democratic Party at war with each other? Fine time for this to happen.
Posted by: jamie | January 29, 2008 11:26 AM
(she's got knobby knees.....)
Posted by: sturgeone | January 29, 2008 11:26 AM
Jamie,
My family I guess is in the minority but you'd think that they'd still want to keep church and state seperate
Posted by: Rob
| January 29, 2008 11:28 AM
Forgot to sign that one
-Rob43
Posted by: Rob
| January 29, 2008 11:29 AM
I thought Gov Sebelius was a good choice but she did not do a very good job.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 29, 2008 11:31 AM
Hillary is the medias choice and the choice of the establishment, but someone forgot to convince the American people....They so far don't agree....It is like we have a "state media" that is telling us what to do....WOW...
Posted by: athyrio
| January 29, 2008 11:31 AM
You know what I think has been accomplished? I think they've managed to kick Bill Clinton into High Gear.....I think we're fixin' to see a fine politician make mincemeat of the opposition......
Posted by: sturgeone | January 29, 2008 11:31 AM
that old boy is hell on wheels with an afterburner.........
Posted by: sturgeone | January 29, 2008 11:32 AM
Ok here