Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

First!

I dont see how Romney's anti-washington angle works.. that's how Bush was elected and look what happened!!

Nash brought up Whitewater. If anyone is interested in what that was about, take a look at " The Hunting of the President " ( The Ten Year Campaign to Destroy Bill and Hillary Clinton ) by Joe Conason and Gene Lyons. $ 70 million, what did Ken Starr & Robert Ray find - Monica. I am located in AR, so had a front -row seat to investigations at this end.

kgc...

CA is clearly a state that exhibits clarity of thought, and exceptional decision making...especially on the part of any entity that endorses Edwards.

:-))

Be interesting to see whether McCain's mo' carries over to registered repugs in a state that doesn't support his policies. The statewide polls show a surge (sorry) for him. Hell, if it kills Rudi's run, I'll register as a repug and vote for him in the primary. I really can't think of anything worse than Rudi as president (except maybe Huckleberry).

Renee -- "on that day most of the voters will have to make up their minds from info they get through the media.... as the candidates will not be able to do retail politics as they have in the early contests.....I think he is correct in that assessment....."

He's spot on...If you want to see what a national, media-based primary would look like, just take a look at the results from MI and FL for the Dems.

The Intraday data is very telling...At the same time Obama is mounting a huge lead in SC, Clinton's national lead continues to grow (a lead she's held since her win in NH). As of today, her Futures Market support is 2.5 times that of Obama.

On the Republican side, McCain nationally has a 2-1 lead over Romney, a lead held since just before Iowa. He also still holds a 10% lead over Romney in FL.

One one hand, Romney is gaining strength in FL. With the stock market continuing to tank, Mr. (Hope-and-Optimism Chamber of Commerce) Romney may make up enough ground to overtake McCain by the primary....

On the other hand....As I said last week, about the only chance Guliani, Romney, or Huckabee had to get the nomination was if Huckabee could win SC. Though McCain didn't get a bump out of SC, his win there may have created just enough momentum to stave off Romney long enough for a win in FL.

I wouldn't count McCain out just yet, Craig (but I've been wrong about nearly everything else the GOP's done in recent days, so what do I know).

Dave Letterman on last nite's show: "Doncha think Mitt Romney looks like a guy who runs a seminar on how to flip condos...?"

I disagree that Senator Edwards is remaining in the race with the objective being a Vice Presidential nod.

I believe that he is intent on getting his message across, so that it will be a part of the national conversation and will be integrated into the eventual Democratic platform (no matter which candidate is selected to be the nominee).

Senator Edwards is less ego-driven than Senators Obama and Clinton. His candidacy is about ideas, not him as an individual (other than as a change agent to enable the disenfranchised).

Craig, ARG's latest poll, putting McCain at 29% to Rudi's 16% is of likely Republican voters - let the games begin.

benblue, I think that Edwards is realistic enough to know that his presidential run is over and that his message is what he has left. I differ with you about the Veep thing - if Obama wins the nomination and offered JE the VP spot, I think he would take it and explain that he was not running for vp, but that being vp in an historic presidency woudl be an honor. That would be both credible and honorable.

Senator Edwards is less ego-driven. Sure can't be by much.

I don't know how his message is getting out, when he has to wave to the moderator in a debate and say, hey I'm over here, way over here on the left.

What did he say today about being the minority candidate on the Tyra Banks show. did anybody catch that one?

"It's hard to be heard," he said. "... We have a couple of candidates who are good candidates but they get an enormous amount of attention and publicity, and they've got enormous amounts of money. The result is I have to really work to be heard."

Banks asked what it feels like to be a minority and a white male.

"It feels like you have to fight for everything you get,." Edwards said.

be careful handling ARG polls, pogo -- their last Iowa numbers had Clinton up 9 pts and their last NH poll had Obama up 9

all recent florida polls here: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/fl/florida_republican_primary-260.html

kgc

"any entity that endorses Edwards" Well The Bee is McClatchy which throws their decision making ability on any subject into doubt. :-)

wow, about 4 min. 40 sec into this Veira interview, Obama does an interesting thing. She confronts him with contradictory clips of him talking about single-payer and he dodges by saying he couldn't hear the clips. i guess that works for him, dunno, check it out:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22799477#22799477

Hi Guys,

Great posting and very interesting stuff. You guys keep me intouch.

I'm sitting here inthe Palm Beach Airport, waiting for a flight home for a week and a half. I will be along for Super Tuesday. The boss will not be there until the 5th. I'm finally psyc'd . Lets get this crazy ride over with.

BOWMAN, That was a good post. I didn't know everyone was doing Tyra Banks. But Edwards was poignant if he said that.

I think in the end, Edwards holds the key.

Off Topic but potentially relevent.

"Might Google Buy the New York Times?"

http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2008/01/might_google_buy_the_new_york.html

I just heard something very interesting on NPR's Talk of the Nation....
their political editor, Ken Rudin, was discussing the upcoming Florida primary with the host, Neal Conan.....
Mr. Rudin said that Giuliani's biggest obstacle is that most of the NYC Jews who've retired in FLA are registered Democrats..... and they cannot cross over and vote Republican....

for me.... that's good news..... I'm with pogo.... Rudi scares me the most of any Republican running..... I think he embraces anything BUT democratic ideals....

Craig,

The one thing I note is that whenever he is challenged, Obama starts to stutter with a ,,, but but but ,,, sort of response. From that point on he talks over the interviewer (to whom he had been listening courteously up to that point) explaining his answer until the time is up.

This was the core of the Clinton attack during the debate about "not taking responsibility".

Mr. and Mrs. Clinton may be coloring Mr. Obama's words to suit their argument, but on this point of his dodging tough questions, they are right.

Renee,

I'm with you. I know no one cares about his infidelities that is not what made me distrust him. It was the backhanded way he dealt his wife and kids the news. Cold....really Cold I don't trust him to do anything but what is Good For Rudy Giuliani.

New Hillary ad in Northern Ca

energy initiatives and she would pay for it by taking away the tax subsidies to the oil companies.
It's a good ad. Of course she in preaching to the choir here in Northern California

So If we had to have a republican President again. Who would you pick? I'd have to pick Mc Cain. I can't see Romney doing anything solid to Iraq.

McCain may be preaching to the chior about staying there, but He would listen to his Commanders and they would want to stabilize it Toot-Sweet.

Romney scares me more.

"Politically, I'm somewhat to the left of Ted Kennedy."

Ha! Good fr you, Nash!

Sheila -- I agree, the thought of Romney as POTUS freaks me out.

according to the Sec. of State Bill Gardner the NH recount was officially ended this morning because of a lack of funding from Kucinich.

here are the numbers from the recount

http://www.sos.nh.gov/recountresults.htm

Lest we forget a great moment in American politics:

This from the probably apocryphal story about LBJ running for Congress and telling someone to spread the story that his opponent enjoyed connubial congress with pigs; when that person told LBJ that he couldn't accuse the opponent of being a pig-fucker, LBJ supposedly replied, "I'm not going to call him a pig-fucker, I want the sumbitch to have to deny it."

Sheila....
that's a tough question for me..... I really can't stand any of the Republicans running..... but I will admit that I think McCain is the most qualified of the bunch......

ok..... some of you love to post when the stock market is tanking..... so let me be the first to post the reverse....... the stock market ended the day gaining over 300 pts..... yes it's a roller coaster ride...... but the sky is not falling.... :0)

Patsi

That reminds me of a disaster of a tongue twister. You almost can't type it without getting into trouble.

I'm not a fig plucker no a fig plucker's son
But I can pluck figs till the fig pluckers come.

no = nor

Renee

I just made $5,000 in pretend money on my Predictions game. Bought 50 shares at $14 each on the up side. Made $86 a share.

In case anyone would like to play, they do everything from the markets to politics to movies

http://us.newsfutures.com/

"I'm not a fig plucker "

Fabulous!

In SC, Obama could be in a no-win situation. If he wins - it is a loss (nationally), if he loses - it is an even bigger loss (nationally). I do not feel comfortable spelling out the reason.

TF, Maureen Dowd can best be described as an antagonistic columnist - she is not a partisan pro anyone, except by process of elimination, at least as far as I can discern. For the past 7 years she has been acidly anti Bush (her book Bushworld is destined to be a classic among Democrats and other Bush detractors), and in the Dem race has been acidly anti Clinton.

Craig - I ain't sayin' ARG polls are likely to be right - hell all the pollsters missed NH, just pointing out that ARG surveys likely voters in the party of the candidates they survey about, and in their survey Rudi is getting stomped on by JohhnieMac.

Breaking news from the Intrade Presidential Futures Markets....

Romney has slightly surpassed McCain. I don't know if this is an intraday market swing, or if Romney's support will hold for the rest of the day.

I will be posting the full results of today's trading later this evening...

More as events warrant...

For an explanation of the Intrade markets, please see:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/01/florida-to-forecast-both-party-1.html#comment-16896

Sheila - what a thought, but if I had to choose, I would
also pick McCain. However, that only reinforces my
disgust when dem. candidates continue the useless
attacks against each other.

Clarification from Spike....

>>Romney has slightly surpassed McCain.

This refers only to the Florida Republican Primary futures market. McCain still hold an almost 2-1 margin over Romney in national futures market trading.

Craig, thanks for the RCP poll numbers - looks like a dead heat for the repugs at this juncture.

Renee, that is a 350 point swing in the last 2 hours of trading after being 50 - 150 points below 0 and under 12K most of the day. It is god news - may reflect a return of some confidence in the markets after the drop last week and the surprise rate drop yesterday. Let's hope so.

pogo: or maybe this reason

http://bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aS4MS1THQ.Zk&refer=home

From Craig -- "all recent florida polls here: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/fl/florida_republican_primary-260.html"

Please note that ALL Florida polls (16 total polls) since December 13th have had the 1st and 2nd place finishers within each other's margin-of-error...

Given the number of "undecided" voters this year, I would start paying attention about Thursday, and then look primarily at the day-to-day trends for each candidate.

HOPEFULLY, some poll will double or triple their sample size on Friday (including evening data collection). A large sample poll with Friday's results broken out will probably best represent the final outcome. Look for that to be released Saturday morning.

The market is reacting to a rumor the bond insurers will be bailed out. People who make gigannormous mistakes get rewarded. People lured into crappy loans by a false economy --screwed.

Firewallissues, ran - can't open it today.I'll read it tomorrow.

Bye, all.

In case anyone is actually interested in the news

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/default.stm

That's the middle east page, but you can pick any continent or subject of interest.

Craig? What did you post at 3:02. A big bug flew into my monitor and now I can't read that post...I must confess....

but by the audio, I think Meredith Viera should, as I-Man says, "give it a rest." That woman is too gentle to "do" campaigns.

Speak to the media not the Clinton Campaign
Senator Clinton was in Philly picking up a great endorsement

If they choose to cover Bill that is not the fault of the Hillary Clinton for President Campaign.

Sounds like Obama is sorry he's not married to Bill
I didn't hear the anyone say Oprah should stay home
and clearly she was doing him on the trail
what a bunch of whiney babies.

that should read

"clearly she was out doing him on the trail"
oy

I have gotten hooked on this website...it's Reuters video site...just wanted to share it with you newshounds...it's a nice break from numbers and polls and squabbling politicians, not that I find squabbling pols dull! Anyhoo, check out the vid of the Thai "stewardesses". Yep, they are still called that , I guess, in Thailand. Can a US take-off on this show be far behind?

http://www.reuters.com/news/video

Oh puleeze
you got a response. It is not the fault of the Clinton campaign. And if you turn off the crapfest that is bale news especially msgarbage
no one cares about that. There is not one word about too much Bill in any of the Cal media.

Here's what happens to "border walls".

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL238927720080123

I rather doubt what is going is the doing of the Clinton campaign...according to you they control everything...

what a load of crap

Well, Obama threw down the gauntlet right after NH when he said he could fight tough because he came up in Chicago street politics. At the time I thought, uh, yeah, and Bill Clinton came up in Arkansas junkyard politics.

It's nice to see things are getting back to normal around here!

If you don't watch cable news or get emails from the obama campaign you would even suspect that Bill is a problem...in fact you might think just the opposite

Matthews has been proven a drooling idiot who makes fake apologies when he is forced but then has his possee all feel sorry for him/

No on gives an ra what he thinks he has no influence
he is a joke. People are starting to talk back
Ed REndell said he was substance free. ...to his face.

patsi: as it was happening, I said, "damn! Hillary just knocked him out!"
And the past couple days I see MSM saw it that way too.
Yeah, like the pundit said, "Wal*Mart board seat" doesn't resonate NUTHIN' like "you were an associate with the law firm of a CHICAGO SLUMLORD!"

I don't see how "tit for tat" applies.

If you remember, Hillary being a less than typical shrinking violet during his first campaign deflected some things off Bill. This is politics. And whoever said it ain't bean bag was spot on.

Too bad for Obama Leger died and the market tanked
he might have been able to build up a fake controversy.

It looks to me like the acts of a desperate man.
SC will be the end -- unless he lies about his record in Mo and claims he is anti immigration (hiding behind the skirts of Claire mcCaskill)

Responsible people on the right should speak up now
and if msnbc allows Tucker Carlson or anyone else to book Roger Stone -- I hope there such a thing as karma

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Utilities/printer_preview.asp?idArticle=14617&

The question is based on a false premise
He is not dominating the news cycle as a whole
you hgave offered no evidence that he is.

If you think cable news is the news cycle you are wrong.

I am taking a sample of one...me...and extrapolating it, using the assumption that there is someone, somewhere out there who thinks something like I do. The in-fighting between Clinton and Obama is a huge turnoff for me. Had I chosen either of them as my #1 candidate, I would now be reconsidering...and Edwards be coming up on the outside to overtake them and win my vote. Wonder how many others are having similar thoughts?

and for the 800th time
she wasn't home baking cookies
she was out campaigning and answering questions
not going deaf on the Today Show.

Bill Clinton is the most popular politician in the world
This is just a push by Obama to try to damage an advantgage. And doing it in a very sexist way.

If Bill and Hill were brother and sister...what would people be saying.

Besides, there is an easy cure for Bill "dominating" the campaign ... Stop asking him if he is dominating the campaign. Stop discussing if he is dominating the campaign. Stop bringing in pundits to opine on how he is dominating the campaign. Don't ask Obama if Bill is dominating the campaign. Stop publishing push polls on the network pages ... "Is Bill Clinton dominating the campaign?"

And easiest of all: Ask the candidates about the issues and talk about that!

Correcting my omission...

"and Edwards WOULD be coming up on the outside"

But mine can't hold a candle to kgc's...you know, the one about Oprah doing someone on the trail! Oy, indeed! I'm still laughing....

And I call baloney on that whole ex president things
since when is there a rule book
get over it.

Shall we examine the behavior of ex presidents
For Example I think a lot of people wish Gerald Ford had spoken out on the invasion of Iraq. And a lot of people wish Jimmy Carter would shut up.

Each ex president gets to do what they want. There are no rules. That is a craptastic argument

"If Bill and Hill were brother and sister...what would people be saying.

"If Bill and Hill were brother and sister...what would people be saying."

Jack Kennedy used his mom and all the sisters almost 50 years ago. Then there was that wife of his. She was turning up everywhere you looked.

It wouldn't matter what they did..it would be wrong.
If he didn't campaign --the media would say he can;'t stand the idea of being overshadowed...so he isn't doing enough.

Oy, indeed! I'm still laughing....

Posted by: harborwoman | January 23, 2008 6:41 PM

I could not type that correction fast enough.

HW

Whatever it takes to get elected. lol

Edwards on KO tonight

Bill is just being Bill
When he attacked Chris Wallace last year
everyone thought it was just fine and wished others would do it more.

The only people complaining are other campaigns

As my company used to say back in the day:

"Confront the issue , not the person."

Maybe if Hillary and Obama confronted issues instead of each other we could all feel better about this campaign?

Corey,

Both of them are out on the campaign trail speaking about the issues. Of course, unless you are actually in the room with them, you probably won't hear word one about it.

"Maybe if Hillary and Obama confronted issues instead of each other we could all feel better about this campaign?"

Totally agree, Corey. But over the years I've noticed that issues confrontations almost always end up sounding personal.

Well , I guess that I didn't know that from reading posts here.

I feel fine,a bout it, Corey. I'm for Edwards.

kgc...Laughing again that you couldn't correct that post fast enough. How rumors get started, huh?

Jon Stewart: "Oh my god, they're fighting over issues!"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/23/stewart-on-cnn-debate-cov_n_82902.html

harborwoman
It might be fun to start a rumor. Hmmmmmmm,

Okay...kgc...

Oprah was doing who on the campaign trail???

Nah...we better not. Oprah could crush us like bugs!

yeah where was Stedman

Stedman! That must be who she was doing on the campaign trail!

harborwoman
did you see the Producers the first movie with Zero Mostel....there is a very funny scene with the phrase squash you like a bug...

"Oprah could crush us like bugs!"

And she will soon have her own network!!

We are doomed!!

kgc...Haven't seen that version of The Producers. I'll have to check it out sometime.

lol @ Jamie...I'd almost forgotten that!

Obama just claimed his supporters will not vote for Hillary Clinton if she is the nominee

John Edwards is a typical "good ole boy"...thinking that he is the only candidate who can win in NOV.

After seeing JE on Letterman, I know I cannot vote for him(JE). I couldn't possibly vote for a man who uses more hair product than I do...LOL!!

Ahhhhhhhh...there's Craig. I missed him on Morning Joe. :(

What was the gas reference that Shuster made about Craig, when DS, Willie and MJ were talking about the foot mint spray in Japan?

if john edwards can't carry South Carolina (his home state btw) he won't be the democratic candidate in the general election it is my belief.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Ok, Now that Oprah has been mentioned often tonight my question is, Where the hell did she go? It is like they cancelled her show. Did she decide that supporting Obama was too contraversial and was going to hurt her ratings. What happened?

Edwards is a free man, now that he is so far down in the polls he has nothing to lose, he can say anything he wants. It actually may make him more appealing, but probably not more electable.

Damn! I had a business-related call I had to take and missed Craig on KO. What was said?

Craig on KO: "Republicans are running out of cash."

What kind of a weird parrallel universe have we wandered into?

Damn. I looked up "parallel" in the dictionary and I still spelled it wrong. (Typo.)

Craig, KO spoke about his Keith number after citing polls. Earlier today, I posted the Keith number for Arizona's latest polls. Why don't we (CLers) check out our local polls, figure out the Keith number, and you pass them along to KO. I think Keith is onto something very important: factoring in the margin of error AND the undecideds. Mobilize your contacts from this list!

Republicans are running out of cash.

So is the company I work for. Message from management: "Business As Usual"

They need to put the "touch" on some of those Indian casinos. Oh, I forgot, been there done that, got indicted.

In honor of John Edwards on KO tonight, the next time you want to donate some money please consider the National Veterans Foundation:

www.nvf.org

re: McCain in FL. Craig's comments above are, as usual, very insightful.

I find it very hard to understand why Republicans prefer one of their candidates over another. It's like trying to figure out which serial killer a bunch of mental patients would admire the most.

I demand to know what happened to Oprah. Why is she not helping?

Well, JE certainly has "Ken doll" hair...LOLOL!!

Proof that there is no order or justice in the universe... Heath Ledger is dead, and Rush Limbaugh is not.

I'm still trying to figure out why Oprah will crush us like bugs.

bowmanc
Here's what I think about Oprah.
The Obama campaign was counting on her appeal to court women. It did not work.

In SC Oprah was the first person to say vote for Obama because he is black.

I think there was a lot of good press and crowds but I don't think women made a wholesale switch and it ended up making him a black candidate.

It was really a not new endorsement. She in my view made him a contender,. but I think she had brought him all the support she could.

Hah, David Shuster on Abrams is talking about Hillary's role in Whitewater. Yeah, she avoided indictment but she WAS involved.

I am vindicated.

And no, Whitewater is NOT "ancient history." The Republicans will use it again.

Rudy Giuliani is on Larry King and just said as mayor of nyc he has more foreign policy experience than any president from the last fifty years

david shuster is no longer an unbiased reporter
he is a huckabee suckup and a liar

"I find it very hard to understand why Republicans prefer one of their candidates over another. It's like trying to figure out which serial killer a bunch of mental patients would admire the most. "

Yes...like picking your favorite Menendez brother.

RE: Nash and Whitewater

Nash....this is such a crock. Compared to 90% of the business deals that go down Whitewater was Go Fish. You bought the package, pal. Thank God you never met Jim Jones.

Glen Beck is analyzing why Thompson's campaign failed. Talk about beating a dead horse...

Over on Fox, Romney is joking around with Hannity.

(Got to keep track of what the enemy is up to.)

Hooray for you Craig! You're in the middle of a primary.

tt

The current administration's 935 lies.

http://www.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/Default.aspx?src=home&context=overview&id=945

tt

Patsi: I read about Whitewater, and all the other Clinton dirty laundry for years in the "NY Times. " Dozens of in-depth articles, not Republican talking points. The Clintons are dirty, but they know how to avoid indictments.

It's like saying that you smoked grass, but didn't inhale. That's too clever for me.

But, as politicians, the Clintons are not very dirty, just average dirty.

935 seems way too low(but that is just my opinion and I am probably wrong... ;)

LL, it doesn't include the almost lies, suggested lies, etc.

http://patterns2.blogspot.com/

tt

I think we can just assume, at this point, that EVERYTHING that any member of the Bush administration says, is a lie.

According to some commentators, Bill Clinton has "gotten into Obama's head ". That is a bad sign. He is just not tough enough, at least not yet. Like Andrew Young said, " Barack Obama is ready to be President - in 8 years ". I am concerned about what the Repubs would do in the general.

Dexter. I canceled HBO when they raised their rates.

As for Firefox, Bill Gates has probably dispatched a black helicopter for me . If I disappear, you'll know why.

I think it's landing in the backyard.

You must take the ring into Mordor. Do not morn for me....

Arrggghhh.

......I love being home.....sigh.........

nach do you have a VW Microbus??

tt

nash, good work. Firefox is much faster than IE.

Did you ever have a VW microbus?

Or was that you, Dex, in the pic?

tt

GORDO

my prediction is a win for Clinton/Obama in 08!!

Of course, I am probably wrong...LOL!!!

**with Obama taking over in 8 years

Yeah, there was some confusion about who had the VW bus, in the C-Lister video. RRenee said it is Dexter, I think.

LL and someone else said it's nash.

Looks like the black helicopter got nash.

tt

Ed Schultz: Bill Clinton is Lying!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-X9tEOp19o

Bill Clinton lying??? No way Ed, not Bill Clinton. You just don't understand what the meaning of is, is.

"It's like saying that you smoked grass, but didn't inhale. That's too clever for me. "

Ig'nert. and I say again...IG'NERT. I admit to trying a few drugs....but I will tell you that -- even as a smoker -- for some reason, pot makes me cough. So while I'll admit to trying speed and coke in my youth.....pot choked me up so bad I couldn't inhale. Doesn't mean Bill choked up...I'm just sayin' -- I am a poster child that he could have been right.

But this whole white male hatred for Clinton for a few comments or pecadillos is very bizarre. For you to get down to these stupid right wing attack points while this country is going down the tubes -- Jeez!

I just don't get it. I honest to God think some men would rather ignore Bush's crimes while beating a blow job over Clinton's head.

Explain to me why you -- and you claim to be a Democrat - do you so hate Bill Clinton?

As a long time woman....I gotta tell you it does make me wonder....

you're right, tiptoe

LOL @ "Looks like the black helicopter got nash."

Edwards jabs Hillary for leaving SC.

Edwards packs his bags and is seen sneaking out of the Motel 6 to heads home where he can lick his wounds after a disgraceful showing in SC. While Hilary sweeps Super Tuesday. Go Big Hill!!!

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080123/D8UBRQDG0.html

One final thought on middle aged men freaking about Bill Clinton's sex life. They appear to be one of two types: guys who screwed around on their own wives, up to and including serving divorce papers to a spouse when she is coming out of cancer surgery....or guys who couldn't get laid in high school.

In S. Carolina, It’s Obama vs. Clinton. That’s Bill Clinton.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/us/politics/22clinton.html?_r=1&ei=5090&en=75b41812ad90fbd7&ex=1358744400&adxnnl=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1201129731-sQaYh2siujux3hx/ujUCEA&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

Bad news for Obama. Cold and rain called for in SC this coming Saturday.

"I admit to trying a few drugs....but I will tell you that -- even as a smoker -- for some reason, pot makes me cough"

Kindred Spirit!!! I thought I was the only person in the universe who had a negative reaction ... even the smell makes me turn a little green. Here I am a certified member of the boomer generation, flower power and all, and I can't smoke pot.

Craig on track with todays article....
Mitt will gain and continue to win Florida unless something tirps him up.... McCain Cann't, Rudy is rusty....
PING FOR MITT

HRC will take the Dem...

Then it will be Mitt vs HRC !!

Bill Clinton had allergy problems when he was young. The pot incident occurred when he was a student in England. He did not want to appear " square " to the other guys, so he just pretended. Any kind of smoke made him cough.

Patsi

Folks who don't believe Clintons dope smoking story never paticipated in the great gatherings. Where we gathered in someones living room. passed a joint and did stoned philosophy. For me it was at the end of the hippie movement in the early 70's and a few die hard back to the land communal folks who survived until Reagan ruined everything.
I can remember what Clinton discribed happening a lot. It usually irritated me because they were wasting my good smoke.
I believe Clinton. He fits the classic mold for that type. He wanted to hang out and join in the bull sessions that always occurred when a bunch of hippies got high. He wanted to be accepted. But he was small town Arkansas and smoking grass was wrong. So he faked it to be one of the group. Thats his personality

Jack

so fry
which gooper loser did you support last week

grandpa fred seems sbout your speed

would you have preferred all the gays in the military be expelled.,,,that was the choice

Ping Pong

I hope your right

I'd love to run a campaign against the Mittster.

I can see the ad now

-----------------------------
Famous Mass. politicians
Dukakas in the tank, a fat Ted Kenndy ,

then find a picture of the Mittster hugging Kennedy and Kerry

Final caption
VOTE LIBERTARIAN
ENOUGH SAID?
--------------------------------------------
Jack

Sam Nunn is responsible for Don't ask don't tell

http://www.law.georgetown.edu/solomon/background.html#history

the same Sam Numm currently pimping for Bloomberg

nash said this, "But it's telling me spellcheck is not a word.

I love irony."

Nash it is right the words are Spell Check not spellcheck

yo soy Horsedooty!

Patsi,

I used to work for a right wingnut that lived in Atlanta. We traveled for a living and when he was out of town and together he would always make me drive down the road where the whores were looking for a blow job. When Clinton got caught with Monica he was indignant. He fooled around with one of the women at work and when he went to tell his wife he wanted a divorce the "other woman" said hey big boy this is just sport fucking and no way am I getting married again. He had to crawl back to the wife and beg for forgiveness. He is now on a damn short leash now.

yo soy Horsedooty!

I recall hearing at the time of the Republican National Convention in NYC four years ago that hookers were flocking to New York because the Repugs were notorious for giving them tons of business. Long live conservative family values!

anti clinton robo calls in SC
quite strange
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/005113.php

All day people have been talking about Bill Clinton being so nasty, but every clip i've seen he's been quiet, reasonable (yes, critical, but THAT's what a campaign is).. what IS the big deal??

Here's the lastest from the Intrade Presidential Futures Market....

http://www.central.edu/publicdocs/01%2D23%2D08FuturesMarketGraphs.pdf

Democrats....Not much change...Obama has overwhelming support in SC. Despite his wins in Iowa and his current lead in SC, nationally he increasingly trails Clinton.

Republicans....Romney made big gains in Florida today, and was able to hold them. He and McCain are effectively tied there. McCain still holds a lead nationally, but the distance between him and Romney gets smaller everyday.

For an overview of Intrade Presidential Futures Markets, please see:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/01/florida-to-forecast-both-party-1.html#comment-16896

jesus christ! now we are writing about "guys who couldn't get laid in high school."

how about this? a very active cheerleader and a basketball star made a baby when i was in high school.
the principal decided to make an example...called an assembly...and SAT THOSE TWO ON CHAIRS IN THE CENTER CIRCLE OF THE GYM FLOOR.
he then called the assembly to order and proceeded to just rail on the couple, screaming and ranting about the evils of sex.

can you imagine the lawsuit if that happened in 2008 instead of 1965?

oh...the basketball jock was forever banned from sports and the girl sent away to have her baby. she returned to school in the Fall.

AT last! Thank you Dex, the puzzle is solved.

And that's a hideous high school story. Those two were scared for life by that idiot principal. And they say there's a reason that principal ends in pal. Hrumph!

tt

Obscene Amounts of Money Squandered in Presidential Race
$420 Million! And they're broke - except money man Mitt

http://patterns2.blogspot.com/

Just think what constructive, helpful things could have been done with that! Obscene!

tt

Absolutely agree that Clinton -- and many others -- have done gays no favors. Bill caved on a lot of things. Those, I believe, are righteous criticisms. A lot of stuff that people bitch about now were simply personal failings (if fooling around is a personal failing, and I'm not really sure that I think it is) or minor crap like Whitewater that Scaife and Co racheted up.

GOP will have plenty of money for Presidential race once the primaries end, especially if they can get a decent candidate in. I believe it will be McCain and they will get behind him.

-Hipster

Dexter that High Story is unreal!

-Hip

Mrs Hipster and I have been conversations about Hillary. While i admire the willingness to get in the ring and throw punches, I am puzzled as to where this type of fighter has been since 2003.....Why hasnt this side of her been shown before against W? Its been Feingold and Kennedy doing the yeoman's work. I think the answer is that she can get her backbone up when its her career on the line but not when our privacy or our national reputation is on the line.

...and of course, you could make a counter argument against Obama with the same rhetoric, I suppose. I genuinely fear that Hillary Clinton is a sure loser in November against McCain. I'm not even sure if she can beat Romney any more.

Thats just the way I see it.

Hipster

Reading the HRC apologists here, you can see Hillary's strategy is working...notice they are more and more talking about the Clinton years and Bill Clinton....and less and less about HER candidacy, Whats she is trying to do is run some kind of incumbent strategy as if she had been President during the 90's and not him. This is all smoke and mirrors and it isn't going to work in November.

If you guys just get out and talk to people, you cant find any people out there who dont have their minds made up about her. She has no top side, no where to climb. Those negatives are going to stay up. I hope I am wrong.

Hipster

Hate to hit and run folks but life calls! I am going to try to check in later today. Good conversations from all.... Jamie, as usual, you had some interesting points about Obama.

Ping Pong, better not come up here to the hills for right now....lots of icy roads!!!

-Hipster