Florida Primary Scene Setter

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ORLANDO -- Florida Republicans are set to anoint the party’s next national frontrunner in Tuesday’s presidential primary, while Democrats could prove whether or not Barack Obama gets a natural bump from his South Carolina victory over the weekend.

State officials are stunned by record levels of early voting in both parties. More than 350,000 Democrats and 400,000 Republicans have already voted by mail or in person -- that is almost four times as many Democrats as in the 2004 presidential primary, and a two-fold increase in GOP activity.

On the GOP side, Mitt Romney owns the ground game and the television air war against John McCain, who outgunned the field in last-minute party endorsements, including Gov. Charlie Crist and Sen. Mel Martinez. In a risky gamble, Rudy Giuliani stakes his entire presidential bid on Florida, while Mike Huckabee all but takes a pass on the huge expense of competing for the nation’s fourth-largest state. 

Latest Florida Polls:
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Hillary Rodham Clinton, eager for some good news after her South Carolina defeat, is the only Democrat taking Florida seriously, promising a convention fight to seat the state's nominating delegates this summer. Last year, the candidates agreed to a campaign ban after Florida insisted on leapfrogging the primary calendar, provoking the Democratic National Committee to strip the state of its convention voting rights.

Still, even a beauty contest that awards no delegates could provide some meaning in the Democratic race. Next week, so many states vote on Super Duper Tuesday that candidates have had little time to effectively campaign for them.

What Florida’s expected pool of one million “untouched” Democratic voters decide in Tuesday's primary will offer a rough preview of what similarly situated voters decide a week later in 22 states throughout the country on Feb. 5.

 

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  1. Hmmm....if I were comparing Fabian to one I considered the real deal, it would probably be Gene Pitney. Had the stuff to back up any hype.

    Posted by: Patsi | January 28, 2008 6:10 AM

  2. Reposted from below, here's my trailspotting for Georgia yesterday

    http://theaginghipster.blogspot.com/2008/01/georgia-primary-update-9-days-left.html

    I'm out of here gang have a great day!

    -Hipster

    Posted by: redst3 Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 6:13 AM

  3. I see that the true SOB of the South on the Morning Load didn't bother to even take a full 24 hours off from Clinton bashing.

    Posted by: jamie | January 28, 2008 6:22 AM

  4. Jamie -- I just emailed Morning Joe and said I was starting to have flashbacks to impeachment, when right wing men spent millions of taxpayer dollars salivating over Bill Clinton's pants.

    Posted by: Patsi | January 28, 2008 6:34 AM

  5. MoJo: "I'm going to start saying nice things about Bush because so many things are now getting better."

    State of The Union speech is tonight. Lies, fantasies, smirks, and thunderous applause from the mindless Repugs. The nation will watch in horror and disgust.

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 6:38 AM

  6. load mouth is certainly a poopaloosa this morning.

    yo soy Horsedooty!

    Posted by: Horsedooty! | January 28, 2008 6:40 AM

  7. It's now Romney vs McCain and the Clintons vs Obama.

    Five people fighting for one office.

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 6:41 AM

  8. will I ever learn? POOPAPALOOSA* no more typing until at least one cup of coffee.

    yo soy Horsedooty!

    Posted by: Horsedooty! | January 28, 2008 6:46 AM

  9. MoJo: "I'm going to start saying nice things about Bush because so many things are now getting better."
    d
    Nash -- Over the weekend I heard a show on NPR with a report from a guy who was covering Iraq in 2003. He said that the announcements coming to the press were non-stop wonderful. But when the administration flacks and military contacts were hanging out long enough to get drunk, the conversation ws almost always off the record and the same:"You have no idea how bad this is."

    I think the same about this presidency. We have no idea how bad it has really been. So many decisions have been made and policy enacted under the radar, that it's going to take YEARS, maybe decades, to make it right. If that is indeed possible.

    Posted by: Patsi | January 28, 2008 6:49 AM

  10. MoJo is broadcasting from the NASCAR Sports Grille in Orlando. This is a America's service-based economy.

    Middle-aged white people eating too much, being served by illegals, in a venue dedicated to the worship of a mindless recreational activity that consists of people sitting on their butts and watching grown men drive around in circles, contributing to global warming.

    I'll have a four- egg omlette, sausage, bacon, homefries, grits, buttered toast, and a quart of sugar water and food coloring that is supposed to be orange juice.

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 6:53 AM

  11. "So many decisions have been made and policy enacted under the radar, that it's going to take YEARS, maybe decades, to make it right. If that is indeed possible"

    Whit is exactly why I don't think the candidate from "Change" is up to the job.

    Posted by: jamie | January 28, 2008 6:55 AM

  12. One "Gas Mask Special" for Nash.

    Posted by: jamie | January 28, 2008 6:58 AM

  13. Patsi: Bush is the best ally the Democrats have.

    He's a demonic Energizer Bunny: he just keeps on going.

    I gotta go to work. I'll check back later for the (obligatory) smart-ass Clinton bashing.

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 6:58 AM

  14. MO JO is full of pomposity today. He is beating Chris Marrhews in being rude, hogging all the air times and not being respectful to others.
    When are people going to show outrage at Obam advertising in FL!!! On local TV in Tampa they are saying that HRC is breaking pledge, nothing about Obama advertising.

    Posted by: elaine of tampa Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 7:02 AM

  15. I think Ted can keep his endorsement.

    Posted by: elaine of tampa Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 7:03 AM

  16. Mika is succumbing to Joe, enough is enough. Quotin William Crystal!! That's an objective opinion. Bill Clinton was on TV Sat because he was giving a speech the media put him on TV.

    Posted by: elaine of tampa Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 7:06 AM

  17. Craig, MoJo is just down the street... You catching up later?

    E of Tampa - The Tampa media needs to get the facts, HRC is not campiaging - she is Fund Raising. Come on, FYI - The ORlando Media did get this correct.

    Patsi - and MoJo is correct regarding Bush, The house cleaning of Mid Term.

    Wish I could stay and chat all day but off to work for a long week.

    Posted by: Ping Pong Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 7:07 AM

  18. So Ted Kennedy has waded in and endorsed Obama.......might be a bridge too far......obama might be in over his head........etc etc.....

    Posted by: sturgeone | January 28, 2008 7:10 AM

  19. Craig: In the last 24 hours I've seen three Huckabee TV ads (here in Maine) saying he wants to "abolish the IRS."

    * Have you sen this ad? It's very effective.
    * I thought Huckabee was running out of cash. How can he afford this?

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 7:13 AM

  20. An older black woman just called C-Span and said that the media was demonizing Hillary and setting Obama up to get the nomination, at which point they would "kneecap" him just as they'd kneecapped Bill Clinton. She called the media "paid assassins." Ha!

    Posted by: Patsi | January 28, 2008 7:15 AM

  21. Regarding Ted and Caroline's endorsements.....ironic that it is actually RFK that Obama supporters are comparing him to....and RFK's children are for the most part campaigning for Hillary. Maria Shriver will no doubt come out for Obama because Obama has said he'd consider Arnold for a position in his administration.

    Posted by: Patsi | January 28, 2008 7:18 AM

  22. Nash.... because it's cheaper in Maine....

    HarborW.... I'd like to say thanks for the bowling with cats game.... but now I'm a goddamn addict!... :)

    Colleen..... you don't buy clothing...... are you the naked Emperor's wife....
    hey... have a great time in Florida..... don't forget your bathing suit...

    Craig.... your mother has spunk.... I like that...
    and I agree with you that Florida will have meaning for the Democrats...

    Jamie.... that's exactly what I thought when I saw Patsi's post.... all the more reason why I want someone who has at least an inkling of how things work in the WH.....

    Posted by: RebelliousRenee | January 28, 2008 7:23 AM

  23. Have you noticed the table behind Mika and Joe? It's probably my suspicious nature, but that table has changed over at least three times and it is a mixed racial groupings every time while the table behind that is not.

    Could MSNBC be "salting" the mine after our comments about the lily white group behind them in South Carolina? I'm not familiar with the restaurant so it may be in a college or young area where this is natural. Do any of the Florida residents know?

    Posted by: jamie | January 28, 2008 7:25 AM

  24. So when Mika asked Russert if there was a danger that anything said during the campaign could be interpreted as racist, he basically said YES, but the perception is that the Clintons were speaking in code....boiled down he said, "That's our story and we're sticking to it."

    Posted by: Patsi | January 28, 2008 7:33 AM

  25. What's Huckabee's alternative to the IRS? If you're going to collect taxes from the populace, dont you have to have a dept that actually DOES it?

    Posted by: tylenol Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 7:43 AM

  26. Nash,

    Just saw the Huckabee IRS commercial here in Michigan Too, but on MSNBC. So he's gone nation wide in cable?

    Posted by: Sheila Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 7:50 AM

  27. That Huckabee IRS ad is running here in Tennessee as well. Where did he get the money for nationwide advertising?

    (Having said that, I want to say that I've seen many of Huckabee's ads run on MSNBC where I don't think he paid for the time....he got the ads on by people like MOJO talking about him....so I cant be sure if what I saw was paid for....)

    Posted by: Patsi | January 28, 2008 8:10 AM

  28. Just saw the Huckabee ad here too in SW NH-

    Posted by: Kathy | January 28, 2008 8:13 AM

  29. My, my..such tension between Mika and Scarborough this morning...yikes!!

    Posted by: LushIsLinda Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 8:14 AM

  30. JS just can't handle anyone who disagrees with him...look at him..his face is all flushed!!

    Posted by: LushIsLinda Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 8:15 AM

  31. Nash- Unless you've been to a Race- please don't knock it. Trust me it is not cheap to go to any Nascar events.

    I boycotted the MSNBC morning show after Imus was fired and haven't looked back so I can't comment on MoJo. Thank god I had Direct TV so I get to watch Imus. I guess that RFD TV goes with my Nascar lovin' self. LOL

    As for making excuses for Hillary, the only reason she is here is to campaign no matter how she wants to spin it. If the canidates wanted to be here they probably could have made a stink when the National party decided to punish Florida like a misbehaving child. It agrivates me the National Republican party had to punish us too.

    Okay, stepping off my soap box now......

    Have agreat day all!

    Posted by: JennBe Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 8:17 AM

  32. I want to know when Craig gets to be on the show again. Do people who disagree with Joe get the boot?

    Posted by: Patsi | January 28, 2008 8:18 AM

  33. Well, I'm off for a horrible day at Vanderbilt....but I do have a pal there who is an older black guy and pretty active politically. He's an Obama supporter, and we have in the past laughed about me voting gender and him voting race. I'm interested to get his take on everything. Haven't seen him since all this pot stirring.

    Posted by: Patsi | January 28, 2008 8:20 AM

  34. Patsi,

    If still reading, have him stop in. It would make a great conversation.

    Posted by: jamie | January 28, 2008 8:21 AM

  35. I usually watch Imus...but I just happened to click on Morning Joe...just in time for the "smackdown"!!

    JS tried to intimidate Mika, but I think she really stood her ground with him. Unfortunately, they went to commercial and now they are "playing nice" again. :(

    Posted by: LushIsLinda Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 8:23 AM

  36. I wonder if they'll count the votes in Florida like they didn't before?

    Posted by: colleen | January 28, 2008 8:31 AM

  37. 250 children taken hostage in Pakistan. Nice to know the ever expanding war is still going so well.

    Posted by: jamie | January 28, 2008 8:32 AM

  38. mornin' all.

    jamie, thanks to Li'l Pogo's love of adrenaline, we've visited Universal 3 times in the past 4 years, and have been past the Nascar cafe a time or two although we didn't eat there. The Nascar cafe will have the errant black groups come through it I suppose, but since it does not open until 11:00 normally (I think - I've e-mailed a source in Orlando to confirm their operating hours), and aside from Starbucks and the little bakeries that open around 8:30 no restaurants are open there in the morning untilthe parks open at 9, this whole thing is an MSNBC put up job - probably their employees and fans of MoJo. If you want to see white folks, go to a nascar event - if you want to see black folks, go somewhere else. Oh, there will be a few blacks there who like to watch white rednecks race in circles, but since there is only one black driver that I'm aware of in the two top nascar circuits, there has not been a lot of publicity that generates interest in the drivers in the black community, so not many black fans.

    ty, I guess the Huckabees of the world would rely upon the honesty and patriotism of the American people to send in their taxes. LOL Actually, It would likely be a system that automatically deducted the taxes and sent them to the treasury dept.

    I almost spit my coffee all over the tv this morning when Joe said he didn't have anything against Bill - gimme a break. Didn't he vote to impeach him? and hasn't he been accusing him of every bad thing a campaign operative could do for the past two months?

    Gotta go catch p on a few comments from yesterday - I got kicked off by the machine Saturday night and couldn't get back on.

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 8:39 AM

  39. Scarborough's ego driven vendettas are almost turning me into an Imus fan. At least the Imus ego driven vendettas were not created out of lies, subterfuge, venality, and malice.

    Posted by: jamie | January 28, 2008 8:45 AM

  40. Colleen..... ROFL!
    (hope you know my post was just a tease)....

    JennBe.... I agree..... of course Hillary is campaigning in Florida.... so what.... Obama is too with the ads.... so what.... Florida is going to mean something to the Dems no matter what "they" say....

    Patsi.... good luck with your tests....

    Posted by: RebelliousRenee | January 28, 2008 8:48 AM

  41. I guess MoJo decided to gloss over one of the major reasons that Lieberman is in Florida with John "There Will Be More Wars" McCain. Shuster tried to mention it, but was talked over by Joe.

    Let's not break a Commandment and speak of the pandering to the Jewish voters in the Sunshine State. Oy Vay!! Cheers!!

    Posted by: Matt-Man Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:03 AM

  42. Renee

    Clinton is not campaigning in Florida. She attended a fund raiser. Unlike Obama, she is not doing anything the DNC said should not be done.

    She has not put out one commercial, one mailer, one door to door campaign.

    Of course, Scarborough would never say that just as he has not mentioned that RFK's children are endorsing Clinton.

    Posted by: jamie | January 28, 2008 9:05 AM

  43. "want to know when Craig gets to be on the show again. Do people who disagree with Joe get the boot? -- Posted by: Patsi"

    hey guys, MSNBC has a MoJo thread for such questions: http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboards/board.aspx?BoardID=877

    Posted by: Craig Crawford Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:09 AM

  44. For the record on this Florida campaign ban -- the DNC's only official move was to strip the state of delegates. The campaign ban was a voluntary agreement among candidates to please early voting states, and it permits fundraising events. The Obama campaign says it got permission from the South Carolina Democratic Party to run national cable ads -- and the cable companies said they could not delete Florida from the buy (Clinton campaign responds that Obama could have run state-specifc ads in the 22 Super Duper Tue states, as they are doing, and avoid this problem).

    Posted by: Craig Crawford Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:16 AM

  45. jamie, correct, exactly. I, for one, find the excuse of the Obamans disingenuous - if they couldn't avoid running their national ads in FL as they claim, and they wanted to comply with the pledge not to campaign there, all they had to do was wait until tomorrow to start running the ads.

    BTW, Krugman's column today is well worth reading.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/28/opinion/28krugman.html?hp

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:23 AM

  46. In defiance of Republican ideology that taxes are evil, a friend of mine in Minnesota, who is a reference librarian, and an awesome person has a bumper sticker on her car. It says "I gladly pay taxes. America is worth it".

    Radical for the anti-tax ideology in the states, but glad to see someone understands that public investment is for the public good.

    Thomas

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:23 AM

  47. Today I have cast my vote via absentee ballot for Hillary Clinton. No matter what happens I am glad I have had the opportunity to make this historic choice.

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:25 AM

  48. Jennbe: Why John Karry is not President.

    In 2004, when asked what he thought of NASCAR, he replied with a typical senatorial rhetorical question...

    "Who amongs us... does not like NASCAR?"

    So George (a man of the poeple) Bush got relected.

    (Excuse me. Got close enough in Ohio to steal it...again.)

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:28 AM

  49. First, those who don’t want to nominate Hillary Clinton because they don’t want to return to the nastiness of the 1990s — a sizable group, at least in the punditocracy — are deluding themselves. Any Democrat who makes it to the White House can expect the same treatment: an unending procession of wild charges and fake scandals, dutifully given credence by major media organizations that somehow can’t bring themselves to declare the accusations unequivocally false (at least not on Page 1).

    ---krugman

    Thanks for that Pogo.........

    Posted by: sturgeone | January 28, 2008 9:28 AM

  50. And John KERRY didn't get elected, either.

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:29 AM

  51. Example of Scarborough/Mika balance. Rezko is hauled off to jail and they say "both" campaigns will be glad to get rid of him.

    Let's see: A more than decade long relationship (Obama) is equal to one souvenir photograph at a meet and greet event.

    Posted by: jamie | January 28, 2008 9:29 AM

  52. Sheila,

    As I know you support Obama, I have a question to ask you, not of Obama but of his supporters.

    I have observed numerous times when the MSM will ask someone who they support or who they voted for and if their answer is Obama, the follow-up question is why, and the answerer is always the same, "Cause he represent change". Then the interview is terminated and onto the next person. Here is my question, why doesn't the MSM during these interview ask, "and what is the change you are expecting to see?" I might be a little to critical here, but I am beginning to think that they hear the word change, but don't know what that change is, or if it is even something Obama is even suggesting. It is starting to sound like a off the cuff sound bite for his supported to throw out with no thought or knowledgeable foundation of what Obama's vision of change means. Your thoughts.

    Posted by: FryDaddy Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:30 AM

  53. I, too, would like to know what change and specifically--how.

    from all of them.......

    Posted by: sturgeone | January 28, 2008 9:33 AM

  54. John Kerry had no charisma. He was like "son of Dukakis"... as mechanical and uninspiring as MD was in 1988. There was no pizazz, no personality. He came across as a haughty intellectual and that turns people off. Look at Bush... all he had to do was look as dumb as he is and throw some "good 'ole boy" rhetoric to the starving masses and he becomes "one of the people".

    On another note. I was thinking today what a unique group we people are. Most people don't give a shit about politics because they don't think it affects their lives. Sometimes I wish I was like my brother and sister. They don't care. They have their homes and their quiet lives in Northern Minnesota and they are content. I, on the other hand, fret about everything. It's why I gave up helping on campaigns. I just couldn't handle the apathy. If people really took it seriously it would truly be "power to the people". And if the Repugs would stop trying to challenge voters' right to vote and together, with the Dems, require everyone to vote, democracy would prevail. Of course the Repugs fear this because they know when the chips fall, they are in the minority The monied interests will do whatever is necessary to disenfranchise the masses.

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:34 AM

  55. jamie: I, too noticed the suspiciously "diverse" collection of people behind MoJo this AM. They had young black men sitting with young white women. Hispanic men with beards and pony tails. All they needed was a guy with red hair and a shamrock on his t-shirt drinking green beer, a couple of ultra-orthodix Jews in prayer shawls, and someone with a "Remember Stonewall" sticker on their wheel chair.

    They were plants, rounded up by MoJo's producers. Notice that NONE OF THEM LOOKED AT THE CAMERA?

    Real people do that. Recruited background extras do not.

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:36 AM

  56. I thought morning load was a christian
    if so he is surely going straight to helll for all the lies he has told...jsut this morning. the rezko revisionist history is an outright lie

    there is no speculation that obama had to return 40k and based on Senator's Clinton hairstyle in the photo this is a very old picture.

    what a bunch of liars

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 28, 2008 9:37 AM

  57. I can't relate to the news shows you guys are talking about because I don't get American television, except for the DVD's I bought of That Girl, Mary Tyler Moore, The Doris Day Show, The Munsters, The Addams Family, Bewitched, The Bionic Woman, Wonder Woman, and I Dream of Jeannie. Who'd guess I was actually into politics? :-)

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:39 AM

  58. MoJo had Cheney's daughter on as I was leaving the house.

    Did the subject of gay marriage come up in their discussion with her? I'll bet NOT.

    Typical Republican trick: Gays/Lesbians etc know who she is, so the Republicans score some points while the morons in the base don't know, so they aren't alienated.

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:40 AM

  59. Mary Cheney is a Lesbian Uncle Tom for the right wing. She even was a windbag for union buster and right wing fanatics known as COORS. What a waste of space.

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:42 AM

  60. Oh and I must salute the public workers at the U.S. Embassy in Bruxelle. My Passport renewal was to take 45 days and I got it returned to me in less than 30! Contrary to what many think, public workers care and work hard. Bravo!

    YOU BETTER GET TO LIVIN'

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:43 AM

  61. Ted's endoresement is no big deal but Caroline's is, to any Democrat my age (57) or older.

    I was only 12 when JFK died but I watched it on TV and was very moved. Caroline has stayed out of politcis so her reputation is untarnished.

    She is the torch-bearer of Camelot (to mix a couple of metaphors).

    So, if Obama = JFK
    Then, Clinton = Nixon

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:45 AM

  62. Or Clinton could be Adlai Stevenson or Estes Kefauver

    or any of the other really progressive people in the Democratic party that Kennedy crushed

    we are still in the primary

    there are no Nixon's in the Democratic party
    that is reserived for the goopers

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 28, 2008 9:48 AM

  63. This past Friday's Christian Science Monitor had a column on it's back page entitled, "Signs your presidential campaign is in trouble", by David Letterman....

    #9 was.... "you're often described as John Kerry without the charisma"....
    (I'd say Fred Thompson got that just about right).....

    Jamie.... yeah.... I know Clinton is doing fundraising.... but in my book... that is also campaigning..... once again..... SO WHAT... in my book.... it's also a smart move....

    Posted by: RebelliousRenee | January 28, 2008 9:48 AM

  64. The Cheney daughter that was on MoJo, wasn't Mary, it was Liz, who is heterosexual. Just for clarification. Cheers!!

    Posted by: Matt-Man Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:49 AM

  65. C'mon, the change is that if Hillary or Obama is elected, there won't be a white guy in the oval office. Sheesh. There, I've injected race and gender into the campaign. So sue me (being a defense lawyer, that doesn't exactly strike fear into my heart).

    nash, I just checked a different website the official one for the Nascar Sports Grille - the Nascar sports grille restaurant at Universal does indeed not open until 11 a.m. Everyone there is a plant.

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:49 AM

  66. Rezko just arrested!

    Posted by: GORDO | January 28, 2008 9:50 AM

  67. It doesn't matter which democrat takes over the white house, there will be significant change. Who knows? Maybe America's nearly destroyed reputation worldwide can be repaired.

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:51 AM

  68. oh, BTW, nash, you're welcome. I live to serve.

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:52 AM

  69. Maybe Senator Clinton just couldn't pass up a good pirate celebration argggggggggg

    http://www.gasparillapiratefest.com/

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 28, 2008 9:52 AM

  70. Tom Freedman: "MoJo" is Morning Joe, MSNBC 6:00-9:00 AM news and political TV talk show hosted by former Republican Congressional Rep Joe Scarborough, and two intelligent, but paid-to-act-flaky, assistants.

    They read newspaper headlines, flirt with each other, interview guests, and drink WAY too much coffee.

    When they have Craig on, he gets five minutes, tops, and Joe interrupts him so often he hardly ever gets to finish a sentence.

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:53 AM

  71. TF, we can only hope. The only way our rep could get worse IMHO is to put John (more war, more war, more war, BTW, did someone cal me a hero? thanks) McCain in the WH.

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:54 AM

  72. It's pretty sad when the Fox news coverage is more accurate than nbc

    because russert has the gotcha picture they got from drudge then nbc has to make themselves the news
    they do this all the time ...it would be one thing if what they were saying it true but they are nothing but big fat loads of crap

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 28, 2008 9:54 AM

  73. Howdy friends. Happy Monday.
    Just a short drive-by this morning to post this link to an interesting Howie Kurtz piece on Obama's relations with the on-the-ground press corps. Sorry if someone already posted and I missed it. Pretty good stuff here:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/27/AR2008012702160_2.html

    Posted by: LardassLiberal Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:55 AM

  74. ... because Craig disagrees with 90% of what Joe says as Joe shills for anything that is not Clinton.

    (just fixing your typos, nash)

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:56 AM

  75. Thomas,

    If you have the technology, you can get free podcast download from MSNBC website

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/

    Morning Joe isn't available (it is a three hour show), but you can get two other shows we regularly go on about: Hardball (Chris Matthews), Tucker(far right waste of space that should be thrown out of the gene pool), and Countdown (Keith Olbermann - a favorite of most here).

    Posted by: jamie | January 28, 2008 9:57 AM

  76. My bad. I posted the second page of the link. Here's the first page.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/27/AR2008012702160.html

    Posted by: LardassLiberal Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 9:58 AM

  77. Three shows. More coffee. Can't count

    Posted by: jamie | January 28, 2008 9:58 AM

  78. Thomas Freeman you are better off for not getting them

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 28, 2008 9:59 AM

  79. you are all addicts! We need a 12 step program regarding talking heads programs... "Hi my name is Thomas, and I am a THIS WEEK addict"... "I have come to believe that a power greater than me can restore me to sanity"... :-) Personally I recommend http://www.fair.org. Don't miss Amy Goodman's "Democracy Now" which we run at the radio station I used to work at in Washington State.

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:01 AM

  80. Five soldiers killed in Mosul breaking news. This is where that massive bombing killing over 30 people and wounding more than 70 took place.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22879791/

    Posted by: jamie | January 28, 2008 10:01 AM

  81. sturgeone,

    My point exactly. If I was advising Obama I have him cut back on the change rhetoric and come out with more specifics as to what his vision of change consist of and how does he plan to achieve those changes. I think if he keeps walking down this path he is setting himself for a major fall. Although I won't be voting for him, and I think his story about cocaine use as a teenager is a contrived story to get the 18-25 year old vote, I actually like the guy. Although not his fault, his real problem is his lack of experience, and that is something all his well delivered speeches will not be able to over come.

    Posted by: FryDaddy Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:01 AM

  82. And another interesting piece from Columbia Journalism Review on Clinton and Obama's press relations:

    http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/seeing_the_light_in_south_caro.php?page=all

    All this coming from today's Romenesko.

    Posted by: LardassLiberal Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:02 AM

  83. Do you guys know how I change my login... I mean I'd rather use my moniker which is EUROTOM as opposed to my formal name.

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:02 AM

  84. By the way, I'm STILL thinking about Craig's posting yesterday, even though I didn't agree with it.

    Craig is one of the few independent minds in the pundit racket, where the "conventional wisdom of the day" is endlessly repeated.

    And he attracts a lovable bunch of screwballs to this blog, almost all of whom seem to be liberals and independents, although Craig is scrupulous about maintaining his nuetrality on all issues.

    OK...he has become a bit of a "Clinton-lover" lately. But that's just his contrarian nature, trying to swim against the media's "conventional wisdom" that has cast the Clintons as the Dark Lords of Mordor. (Which they are.)

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:03 AM

  85. nash, which they aren't... they rock.

    Better Get to Livin"...

    aren't you the Dolly fan here, besides me?

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:05 AM

  86. no hucksterbee ads in California

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 28, 2008 10:08 AM

  87. Colleen's and WhiskeyJack's exchange last night about textiles got my juices flowing....

    most of you know I weave scarves..... but for that 9-day fair I do in August, I've always woven a line of housewares made from rags..... I experimented last year and brought only scarves to the fair.... it was a mistake.... I'm now weaving place mats, table runners, hot pads, and mug rugs again for this year's fair.....

    the rags are made from bolts of cotton cloth that I purchase at fabric stores..... up til 5 yrs ago.... I bought only bolts that were made in the USA.... I advertised this fact with a sign in my booth.....

    4 yrs ago.... I had to take that sign down..... one day I went to Jo-Ann Fabrics and the only bolts made in the US I could find were 3-4 times the price per yard I could afford and still make a profit...... the bolts at the price I usually paid were all made in China.....
    it felt like this happened over night....

    I hate purchasing my bolts from China..... but I don't have any choice if I want to continue to weave a line I've made a reputation on without pricing myself out of the market.....

    that's my story on textiles.....

    Posted by: RebelliousRenee | January 28, 2008 10:09 AM

  88. Are you really THE Thomas Freedman (NYT Columnist), or just a fan?

    If you are THE Tom Freedman, how much did you get when you sold your soul to global capitalism? (A Lexus and an Olive Tree?)

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:11 AM

  89. RR,

    My sister-in-law use to do that an bought all her rag material from Good Will. No lie she bought 50 mens suits and shredded them into rags for floor mats, etc. She said she did OK, but last year she sold everything, loom included to a weaver in Michigan.

    Posted by: FryDaddy Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:15 AM

  90. nash were you named for George Romney's creation

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 28, 2008 10:15 AM

  91. Renee, do you sell your line on-line? I would love to see them.
    I recently just started playing around making mixed media collages with lots of textiles.
    Who new we were all crafty too!

    For my other Floridaians who haven't voted yet please vote NO on Prop Tax amendment.

    Posted by: JennBe Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:16 AM

  92. Wow does Jo-Ann Fabrics still exist? I remember relatives going there at Apache Plaza in Minnesota when I was a little kid.

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:16 AM

  93. Top of the day peeps.
    I see Teddy is going to speak at 12:15. Who knew such an esteemed member of the Senate could be so easily duped by the press and end up endorsing Obama. I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. One would have thought that the famous Clinton machine would have been able to keep Teddy in his place.

    Posted by: Brian In NYC Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:17 AM

  94. apparently morning load couldn't lie about the rezko arrest so now they are trying to make it all about the Kennedy's...

    I thought Obama was all about turning the page not going back to the 60's and talk about a president who could not keep it zipped

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 28, 2008 10:17 AM

  95. apparently morning load couldn't lie about the rezko arrest so now they are trying to make it all about the Kennedy's...

    I thought Obama was all about turning the page not going back to the 60's and talk about a president who could not keep it zipped

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 28, 2008 10:17 AM

  96. Renee: The relenless forces of global capitalism have enveloped you, too.

    But it's OK to get your raw materials from China. The US labor value-added is what counts. Textiles is one industry we could never have kept in-country: simple technology, unskilled labor-intensive.

    Do you sell your stuff from a website? If so, let us know the address. It sounds like you make ideal "birthday gift" items which I usually by on-line.

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:18 AM

  97. well if you mean me, I am Thomas FREE MAN.. there is no D in my name and believe me, I am not that important in the larger scheme of things. Strange question though.

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:18 AM

  98. I guess there's a reason I failed that typing class in High School!

    Posted by: JennBe Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:18 AM

  99. Nash,

    Look back. This Thomas Freeman lives in Belgium

    Posted by: jamie | January 28, 2008 10:18 AM

  100. nash, I think you guys are giving Craig a bad rap by mistaking his criticism of biased media coverage as support for a condidate who is prejudiced by it. I just don't see how his disagreeing with unduly favorable media treatment of Obama and unduly unfavorable media attention of Clinton makes him a Clinton lover. He's a media critc by and large, as well as a political pundit, and if the coverage bias was reversed, I would expect that Craig would be calling it biased in favor of Clinton.

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:19 AM

  101. jamie
    snark detector should always be working when reading Nash :)

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 28, 2008 10:20 AM

  102. JennBe,

    "For my other Floridaians who haven't voted yet please vote NO on Prop Tax amendment."

    What is the Prop Tax amendment?

    Posted by: FryDaddy Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:21 AM

  103. Is he talking about the NY Times columnist? I thought he was Friedman like Milton Friedman ...

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:21 AM

  104. JennBe
    If you do not mind explaing...I am curious as to why you are opposed to the Prop tax amendment. I thought the amendment was a republican backed measure and the reason for the early primary. Isn't Gov Christ the major backer

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 28, 2008 10:23 AM

  105. I met Ted Kennedy once. At some event for Walter Mondale at the Seattle Wharf in 1984. I shook his hand. He had such a red face... the type of face a heavy drinker has. I am amazed he is still up and kicking and doing well. Good for him ! As for Obama ... pffft, whatever Brian.

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:24 AM

  106. "apparently morning load couldn't lie about the rezko arrest so now they are trying to make it all about the Kennedy's...

    I thought Obama was all about turning the page not going back to the 60's and talk about a president who could not keep it zipped"

    SOUR GRAPES!

    Posted by: Brian In NYC Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:26 AM

  107. Thomas

    Do you see the little blue link that says "Sign IN" below "Post A Comment"? You can create a Typekey identity as "Eurotom" and then use that for your sign in. After you sign in that way, you can check "Remember personal info?" and from that point when you click on "comment anonymously" it should fill in your details automatically.

    If you have problems, do a shout out to Craig. He can probably get it fixed for you.

    Posted by: jamie | January 28, 2008 10:27 AM

  108. damn, Brian, you're incredible. Perfect example of being anti Clinton even before the 2nd cup of coffee.

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:27 AM

  109. no sour grapes here

    only old vine zinfindel

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 28, 2008 10:27 AM

  110. fry....
    weaving rugs is another ball game..... you can use bits of this and that as long as they are the same material..... like all wool or all cotton...

    I weave a whole line of matching stuff...... in order to get enough of a color to go through 8 place mats, a table runner, and some mug rugs, I need to buy whole bolts of cloth....

    and yes.... I sometimes turn the leftovers into rugs..... but haven't woven any for about 5 yrs now....

    I had a customer who said he was inspired by my creations come into my booth last year and was very disappointed to not see my housewares...... he brought along pictures of the 2 rugs he'd woven from his and his wife's old blue jeans.....

    it's hard to make money with weaving..... it's so time consuming....

    Posted by: RebelliousRenee | January 28, 2008 10:27 AM

  111. FREE-MAN vs FREED-MAN?

    Sorry Tom. I need new reading glasses.

    Begium? Capitol of the infamous global chocolate monopoly that ruthlessly oppresses Ghanian peasants. (I heard that on BBC this AM).

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:28 AM

  112. Baaah most of our chocolates come from Ivory Coast.

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:29 AM

  113. Fry- here is an article today on the Safie Review.

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/florida/sfl-flfproptax28sbjan28,0,959274.story

    I don't think the article touched on it but there are problems with the amendment that I think could over a period actually increase prop. taxes. My husband is the expert on it so for this one instance I actually take his advice.

    BTW, an interesting side to the Prop Amd. is the amount of independant voters that have come out to vote for/against it and are not even eligible to vote in the primaries. Could be interesting in the General Election if they have to put another Property Tax issue on the ballot and the turnout of voters here in Florida.

    Hope this helps

    Posted by: JennBe Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:31 AM

  114. I met Teddy too, when I was working for the America Liver Foundation and we were trying to get support for legislation in support of liver disease research. Teddy aggressively supported our cause and helped insure victory in the Senate for our cause.

    pfft all you want Thomas, the back to back endorsement of both Teddy and Caroline is a big feather in Obama's cap and certainly Teddy's endorsement goes a long way to counter the claim Obama isn't up to the job.

    Posted by: Brian In NYC Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:31 AM

  115. BELGIUM (Typo)

    I'm a fast (but sloppy) typist and this font is too small for me to edit.

    Once again I forgot to use Firefox which has spellcheck.

    Curse you, Microsoft Internet Explorer!

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:32 AM

  116. I love Brugge

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 28, 2008 10:32 AM

  117. Pogo my friend, you're right, I am incredible!

    Posted by: Brian In NYC Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:34 AM

  118. Good morning, Posse,

    Just a quick note to relay the latest data from the Intrade Presidential Futures Market in Florida....

    Obama has gotten no support in the Florida market since South Carolina....The market is still shaping up to resemble the results in Michigan.

    The Florida futures market is breaking in a big way for McCain this morning, after 5 days of exchange trading between McCain and Romney. Given the recent volatility in this market, I would expect to see additional volatility as the day progresses.

    I'll probably do a late afternoon update, with a full wrap-up of the markets around 10 CST this evening...

    More as events warrant -- Spike

    Posted by: spike Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:34 AM

  119. KCG, now I'm going to have to actually read the Amendment! LOL!

    Posted by: JennBe Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:35 AM

  120. test

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:35 AM

  121. And KCG a word of advice, do you really want to go around making cracks about a president who can't keep it zipped?

    Posted by: Brian In NYC Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:37 AM

  122. For those of you (like me) who are having difficulty keeping up with who votes when for which party and who's won what and what does it mean as far as delegates go, here's a handy, dandy delegate tracker link.

    http://hosted.ap.org/specials/interactives/campaign_plus/delegate_tracker/index.html

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:37 AM

  123. Brugge is lovely Katherine. I agree!

    Well Brian, I hardly think that Teddy Kennedy is a face of change, do you? He pretty much is part of the status quo. Standing next to Obama, he must make Obama look like he needs a hall pass to be out of class.


    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:38 AM

  124. Ted Kennedy sucked up to George Bush and brought us no child left behind...

    is this what we can expect from Obama bipartisanship

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 28, 2008 10:39 AM

  125. RR,
    it's hard to make money with weaving..... it's so time consuming....

    I can attest and sympathize with you on that. I think most weavers sell there product for 2 to 3 times the cost of the material, plus a little extra for time spent weaving. If you tried to sell them for all the hours you have invested in them you would never be able to sell them.

    Posted by: FryDaddy Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:41 AM

  126. "Ted Kennedy sucked up to George Bush and brought us no child left behind...

    is this what we can expect from Obama bipartisanship"

    blah blah blah

    Posted by: Brian In NYC Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:41 AM

  127. TF, passed. BTW, love the chocolate (best I've ever had, Swiss coming in a close 2nd) and the beer.

    Brian, indeed you are.

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:41 AM

  128. Actually Brian I think people should point out that Bush senior apparently had an office wife and Kennedy was well frick an frac....

    People act like Clinton was the only president who was a player


    JFK could not keep it zipped. COULDN:T KEEP IT ZIPPED

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 28, 2008 10:41 AM

  129. JennBe & Nash....
    no.... I don't have a website....
    every crafts peerson I know that does says it never generates new customers....
    they basically maintain it to keep in contact with old customers....

    people want to touch and see craft work in person before buying something...

    and JennBe.... just FYI.... calling a professional crafts person "crafty" drives them crazy..... it's a term usually used by and forf hobbyists....
    nothing wrong with being a hobbyist..... that's how I started out..... I now weave about 50 hrs a week....

    as a matter of fact..... break over.... time to get back to work....

    Posted by: RebelliousRenee | January 28, 2008 10:42 AM

  130. Wait a minute Brian, you're going on about how great Ted Kennedy is and in the same breath complaining that President Clinton couldn't keep his pants zipped? How much do you know about the Kennedy clan anyway?

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:43 AM

  131. Nash I downloaded a spell check that works with I E and my life has been somewhat more simple but it is not automatic like Firefox. You have to remember to run it. It is called ie spell and can be down loaded from
    www.iespell.com .

    yo soy Horsedooty!

    Posted by: Horsedooty! | January 28, 2008 10:43 AM

  132. oh crap... I hit submit too fast....

    ThomasF..... yes..... Jo-Ann Fabrics is alive and well.....
    there's lots of them here in the northeast.... I live in NH....

    Posted by: RebelliousRenee | January 28, 2008 10:44 AM

  133. RR...Glad you're enjoying (though becoming addicted to) bowling for cats! :-)) Me, too! Which is how a Halloween game comes to still be in my computer in January....

    Tonight should be rich...how will GWB spin the disasters of the past year into a happy little SOTU speech, assuring us all that the economy is strong and we're doing far better than we think we are...and NOLA has risen and is now ABOVE sea level...YEA!!! (Best thing JS has said in ages...just heard him mention that tonight's speech will be GWB's FINAL SOTU address. Thank you, God!)

    And then...on to FLORIDA...tomorrow....

    Posted by: harborwoman | January 28, 2008 10:45 AM

  134. Dammit Katherine, you beat me to it. Still Brian, what form of denial are you going to use to excuse the philanderings of JFK and Teddy and the rest, while denigrating President Clinton for his actions?

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:45 AM

  135. in fact Kennedy has a mobbed up girlfriend who spied on him

    the only difference is the press covered up for him

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 28, 2008 10:46 AM

  136. Good morning all, Ted is about the super delegates guys. Remember we are in the primaries and like him or not, he is an elder in the Democratic Party. I agree with Brian.

    Posted by: Cheryl S. | January 28, 2008 10:47 AM

  137. the life of Brian...evidence free

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 28, 2008 10:47 AM

  138. I really would like to hear Brian's answer. In the short time I have been here I find that when he gets this sort of challenge he suddenly goes silent.

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:49 AM

  139. dang, pogo, i could not have said it better myself. you are my new press secretary: http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/01/florida-scene-setter.html#comment-21362

    i have a long history of jumping ugly on my colleagues when they become cheerleaders or a killing mob-- and have been chuckling to myself about the irony of this situation because my disdain for the Obama coverage is exactly where i was on the media's Clinton love fest in 1992.

    Posted by: Craig Crawford Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 10:55 AM

  140. today's media needs to be reminded often it is not their job to make the news

    good job Mr. Crawford

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 28, 2008 11:02 AM

  141. i missed pogo's comment...

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:03 AM

  142. right, I see it now... duh, Craig had the link... I still need to figure this out. Pogo makes a VERY important point.

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:05 AM

  143. Craig, in the media world, coverage goes to the one with momentum. Although, I respect your opinion, I think you assessment of the Obama coverage is a little over the top.

    Posted by: Cheryl S. | January 28, 2008 11:05 AM

  144. KCG why are you even talking about JFKs sexual appetites? What does this have to do with anything, who cares. What does this have to do with here and now?

    Posted by: Brian In NYC Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:07 AM

  145. Let's have an unofficial poll while we wait for Brian to address the question directed at him by KgC and myself...

    Who is the most annoying news reporter on television?

    I will go first. There is a guy I have disliked to the bone since I was in high school... and that guy is Brit Hume. He used to be on Good Morning America as I recalled and I always thought he was such an arrogant snot. He would make these grand statements at the end of his report and then look into the camera with this smirk that would just irritate me. "Brit Hume, Abc News"...

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:08 AM

  146. Cheryl

    Have you been anywhere near MSNBC Morning Joe today? It has been non stop combination Clinton Bashing and Obama fan club without even the pretense of any balance.

    The Bias is okay, but lying by omission is dishonest. They are supposed to at least make a minimal effort to tell the truth.

    Posted by: jamie | January 28, 2008 11:09 AM

  147. Brian, why are you even talking about Bill Clinton's sexual appetites? what does this have to do with anything, who cares. What does this have to do with here and now?

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:09 AM

  148. Clinton love fest? That's an image I don't need.

    Blue dresses, un-inhaled pot, and Big Macs dripping with "special sauce."

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:10 AM

  149. LOL Thomas,

    I have to interupt. I knew Brit Very Well in the WH and I can tell you, his ego on camera is over the top....EVERYONE teased him incesently about it. Including jokes involving a whole ariplane full of journalists.

    BUT. Wonderful human being. The kindest of men and that is why he was teased for his on camera bombastic ways.

    Posted by: Sheila Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:11 AM

  150. Who is the most annoying news reporter on television?


    Reporter or commentator.

    Commentator: Chris Matthews

    Posted by: FryDaddy Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:13 AM

  151. Thomas try to keep up, I didn't mention mention Bill's happy pants, I said it wasn't in KCG's best interest to be discussing presidents with happy pants. I realize through your kool-aid induced haze it's hard for you, but try.

    Posted by: Brian In NYC Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:13 AM

  152. Sheila there you are. I posted a question for your reply.

    Posted by: FryDaddy Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:14 AM

  153. Joe is a Republican, did you ever stop to think that maybe they are doing the overkill on Obama coverage for strategy reasons. For some reason, the Republicans are starry eyed over Obama, Bill Bennett for example.

    Posted by: Cheryl S. | January 28, 2008 11:15 AM

  154. Nash,

    Renee was kind enough to bring both Blue and myself scarves when we were in Vegas. Her work is beautiful and I have four pictures. Let me get them uploaded on line and I'll let you know where to go to have a look.

    Posted by: jamie | January 28, 2008 11:15 AM

  155. "un-inhaled pot" horrid notion.

    Posted by: Brian In NYC Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:15 AM

  156. Craig, you're welcome - I don't come here because you take sides, I come here because you don't. If I want to go somewhere that the host supports my chosen candidate, I can find one. I don't, because I don't like to spend my time with folks who are mutually blowing smoke up each others' asses.

    BTW, if my hip was any indication, the ankle won't be very mobile for a while and rehab will be no piece of cake, but worth it when all is said and done.

    Cheryl, you and Brian are just wrong.

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:15 AM

  157. Here in Puritan New England, Bill's sexual immorality is an issue. He should burn off his excess energy by doing something healthy...like mountain biking.

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:16 AM

  158. Sheila will be here later, her cable is being worked on right now.

    Posted by: Brian In NYC Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:17 AM

  159. btw, Craig, my services as press secretary come cheap - my legal services, well, that's a different matter altogether.

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:17 AM

  160. kool-aid induced haze? LOL... we don't even have that product here. Nice try. But I have re-read and you are correct. I missed the original post above.

    Mea Culpa

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:18 AM

  161. Sheila, were you a reporter?

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:20 AM

  162. Cocaine cocaine cocaine

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 28, 2008 11:20 AM

  163. "Who is the most annoying news reporter on television?"

    There are so many! And they may not all be considered reporters, but...

    Bill O'Reilly
    Sean Hannity
    John Gibson
    Keith Olbermann (when he gets going denigrating anyone, and I mean ANYONE, famous who's managed to land in a spot of trouble; otherwise, he's great)
    Tucker Carlson
    Joe Scarborough
    Most of the snarky little female news readers on MSNBC (seem to think we want to hear their opinions when we really want to hear the news)

    I could go on, but I'll stop....

    Posted by: harborwoman | January 28, 2008 11:21 AM

  164. nash, LOL. He could do that with Dumya. (Although frankly I have found that cycling doesn't do a thing about THAT excess energy).

    Posted by: pogo Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:21 AM

  165. I'm sorry Renee, I understand. Just meant it in a friendly way.

    KCG, had to think about your question while I was in the shower. I think someone else posted over the weekend that Gov. Crist is not as popular as the love fest for him on MSNBC would have you think. I am a Republican and usually vote that way but I also like to think I use common sense. For example I voted for the class size amendment in Florida because it made sense, limit the amount kids in each classroom and provided the Voluntary Pre-Kindergarten program we now have. The VPK program vote was for more selfish reasons as that it cut my $600 plus a month daycare costs buy close to half.

    An aside, just got a personalized robo call from Mitt addressing me by name. I wonder if they will call again for my husband by name.

    I don't know why I'm so amused by the politcal calls this election, oh well.

    Posted by: JennBe Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:23 AM

  166. Romney 1-28
    "I don't see how you can have a president who doesn't understand how the economy runs"

    Well Mitt we have one now.

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | January 28, 2008 11:23 AM

  167. Just Notice anotherMedia trend:
    Newsweek On-line has added another link to the choices:
    OBAMA REPUBLICANS

    Now they have not at this point populated the content yet. But this is one more attempt to "gush" over OBAMA and position him as the only canidate a Republican should consider voting for.

    I am very dismayed about the un-fair and un-balance coverage by our media. Actually it makes me very angry.

    Shirley

    Posted by: h20storm Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:23 AM

  168. actually I think inhaling cigarette smoke is a horrid notion. As if we don't inhale enough carbon monoxide as it is. YUCK!

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:24 AM

  169. NASH and anyone else interested

    Here are four pictures of scarves woven by Renee

    http://reneweaver.blogspot.com/

    Posted by: jamie | January 28, 2008 11:25 AM

  170. KGC, watch out, you just said "cocaine" 3 times. You're race bating. Everyone knows only blacks buy or sell the product.

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:26 AM

  171. Cool Jamie, and I like the owl too! Great talent Renee... I am off now. I need to unwind away from the computer. Watching old episodes of The Doris Day Show. For some reason I seem to love these 60s shows.

    Posted by: Thomas Freeman Author Profile Page | January 28, 2008 11:27 AM

  172. POST-DISPATCH SPRINGFIELD BUREAU
    01/25/2008

    Barack Obama today acknowledged that it was ``boneheaded” for him to get involved in a personal real estate deal with a Chicago political fundraiser (Rezko)who has since been indicted on influence-peddling charges.

    Funny- I thought he said he only did 5 hours of work for Rezko????

    Posted by: h20sto