Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

woot!!!

woo two.

Hey are you following me :)

aww craig.. i gave up watching tweety years ago on principle.. no doubt you will be the best part of the show tho..

dog -- just go to the Conason article link from the last thread and scroll down to click "comments."

"HW, who is that dude in the pic????"

I dunno, tt....who? fry???

LBJ was a magginal figure in the Civil Rights Movement and Ronald Reagan was an effective president who united the country. God All Mighty. I weep for this country.

Right on, Craig. There are no real policy differences between Obama & Clinton.

Therefore...the campaign degenerates into silly arguments over manufactured issues: Hillary's (supposed) racism and Barak's (supposed) lax leadership style.

Forget the primaries. Let's just have a coin toss.

(Edwards gets to be VP, which seems to be all he wants, anyway.)

I may have to watch Hardball today just to see Tweety scowl at you, Craig, when you say something he doesn't agree with. I am suprised you are going to be on his show. I thought he was mostly only allowing people on the show who agreed with him or let him talk over them,.

That would be "marginal" of course....

Zoey,
"That is what I am talking about. In order to get some traction, Edwards needs to think outside the box and find a way to get press and be noticed, until he can surpass expectations in a contest."

The only way Edwards is going to get the press to notice is if he holds up a liquor store.

Yesssssssssssss.....HW..........................;-)

That's the real fry.

tt

reposted from last thread....
Craig.... you keep switching times of when you do a new post..... one day it's 2:00 and the next it's 1:30.... I can't keep up..... :)

"Doesn't matter what was said, only the perception."
Patsi.... that's one of Craig's 25 rules..... can't recall which number off the top of my head.....

HW.... I don't dislike Edwards.... and being the glass half-full type.... I made my choice on who I wanted to vote FOR.... not based on who was losing my vote....
but I have to agree with Zoey.... Edwards is being ignored by the press now... but he wasn't before Iowa and NH..... look at McCain.... he was largely ignored by the press until he won NH.... now he's getting plenty of media attention.....

I read an article in the latest edition of The Nation about Edwards this morning... it basically stated that Edwards strategy of talking about things like the little girl who was denied a liver transplant by the insurance company, they changed their minds, but it was too late because she died.... has effectively made his stump speeches sound like one was at a funeral .... you could hear a pin drop as he's talking.....

but Obama's and Clinton's rallies were upbeat and filled with people applauding the candidate.... and that may be why people are voting for them in larger numbers than Edwards....

he also went on to say that if this country does move closer to universal health care legislation, we should all thank Edwards...... I agree....

It is a really silly thing, but there is one quality that may be a turn off for the public with John Edwards on a subliminal level and that is his accent. I can't help but wonder if after seven years of listening to Bush if people without thinking of why simply resist having a President who sounds southern.

dnd: "The only way Edwards is going to get the press to notice is if he holds up a liquor store."

I don't think politicians would be very good at hold ups. They would walk in and say, "this is a hold-up and let me tell you why." Then they would proceed to list a litany of reasons until the cops showed up.

I get your drift though. It may be too late but I can't help the nagging feeling that something is going to happen.

RR...

Maybe my memory is faulty. It didn't seem to me that Edwards ever got nearly as much media attention as his opponents, even before Iowa and NH. But maybe that's just selective memory because my guy ain't winning...hmmmmm....

Jamie
The accent thing is funny. I feel a bit like you do...but my neighbor who is not from the south loves it and a few other folks said the same. I was surprised

"I don't think politicians would be very good at hold ups. They would walk in and say, "this is a hold-up and let me tell you why." Then they would proceed to list a litany of reasons until the cops showed up."

LOL @ Zoey! Zoey...you are delightful, and your Iowa coverage was wonderful! So...don't let our minor disagreement mean anything...okay?

"I get your drift though. It may be too late but I can't help the nagging feeling that something is going to happen."

If it's something good for Edwards, I say bring it on! ;-))

Craig,

Why do you feel that the Democratic party will be defeated in November? Given all the problems that beset the country courtesy of Bush and, quite frankly, the rather limited qualities of the Republican candidates, what are you seeing that I am totally missing?

Craig, NO! *gasp* "i am sceptical that they will win this election no matter which of the three candidates is chosen."

*thud*

tt

Joe Conason on Obama attack plan: http://www.observer.com/2008/how-attack-obama

Maybe Edwards is now filling the role of "grim reaper" that I assigned to Joe Biden before he dropped out of the race. I had other reasons for not supporting Joe but one thing I noticed was that there were a lot of things he said that I agreed with, yet I was very depressed by the time he finished a speech. You may be onto something about this Jamie. Impressions and feelings come into play whether you realize it or not.

It might also play into the incongruence with him being "hope and sunshine" in 2004 and being "angry John" this time.

Also, I have heard people say about the girl needing the liver transplant story: why didn't he do something? Now I know he probably didn't know anything about the girl until she had died, yet you have to wonder if that story has unintended consequences for some voters in a subliminal way.

"claiming one candidate is the candidate of style and one is of substance shows a bias."

But that isn't what he said. He said they were virtually identical in substance. Identical, the same, no difference.

You did read farther than the headline didn't you?

harborwoman,
"Maybe my memory is faulty. It didn't seem to me that Edwards ever got nearly as much media attention as his opponents, even before Iowa and NH. But maybe that's just selective memory because my guy ain't winning.."

If you think Edwards didn't get much media attention, try being a Richardson (Biden, Dodd, etc.) supporter.

Zoey,
Great insight on candidates holding up liquor stores.

Craig,
I think you're on to something about who will win the election. Until the dems nominate Jim Webb at the convention and throw the RNC for a loop.

I know, dnd...my sympathies for all of us whose candidates aren't coming out on top....

On the upside...I just had a bowl of black bean sweet potato chili! Yummmmm..... :-))

jamie:

You are right. Most voters do not have southern accents and they don't want another President with one, nor do they want another President who panders to fundamentalist Christians.

Even REPUBLICANS (outside of Dixie) don't want that.

Craig....
I hope that's not so.... but I fear you've made a valid point....
and you have an advantage that most of us don't..... you get to see both sides close up.....

not too long ago we were all posting about how the Democrats need to learn some lessons from the GOP...... learn to fight fire with fire and get down and dirty too (even though most us aren't too thrilled with those tactics... we saw the necessity for them).....

now some of us call Democratic operatives things like slimey and dirty.... look at what was said about Carville even though he helped B. Clinton win 2 times....

we'd better get over this dirty politics stuff, IMO, folks....
or Craig's skepticism could turn into a reality....

zooey,

On the Edwards stump speech, if you are a political junkie as with most of us, you get to the point where you know them by heart. Obama's Hope, Clinton's 35 Years, Edwards stories of the injured and dead.

All of them sort of end up in the "familiarity breeds contempt" column and the 24/7 coverage doesn't make it any easier to bear. You start to understand why the pundits like to stir up trouble. They are probably bored out of their minds and just want something to happen even if they have to be the ones to light the dynamite.

HW,
I didn't know we were having a disagreement, LOL.

Catch youse (southern Iowa word) laters. I am having a sick day today so need lunch and a nap now.

Minor...very minor, Miss Zoey!

Laughing with ya!

Craig:

You said that the Republicans will probably win the general election due to their "superior tactical strength?"

You mean they usually run the dirtier campaign.

Shrub crapped all over their "superior tactical stength"

Zoey.... I'm taking a sick day too....
a new diabetes medicine is making my stomach crawl on and off.... today is an on day.....

Nash.... you were gone while I stated why I voted for Clinton.... but I'll repeat it just for you.....
my number one priority is for the next president to restore our reputation on the world stage.... Hillary did a lot of foreign travel as first lady..... and the Clintons were beloved around the world.....
I'm not saying that Obama won't be able to do this..... I just see an advantage for Hillary there....

if Obama is our nominee..... I'll gladly vote for him....

I think I agree with ya craig... those electioneers on the rep side are masters... and here we sit talking about how the dems campaign shouldnt get nasty... the dems are going to have to have a lot of nasty people on their side if they're going to win... gotta get out ahead of the MSM, ahead of the drudges... No matter who wins the nomination they better be making plans to have some real growling, foaming at the mouth operatives ready to hit the ground running.. (hopefully they've already started.. what did i hear about Carville?)

Craig has a point: If Obama is the nominee, he's likley to get swiftboated, because he's trying to do another Kerry-like "I'll take the high road," campaign.
He'll become "hip hop cokeboy" and lose.

But if the Hillster wins, she is perfectly capable of running a campaign that will be just as dirty as anything the Rovoids can come up with.
(Yeah, she's a junkyard rat, but she's OUR rat.)

"if this country does move closer to universal health care legislation, we should all thank Edwards...... I agree...."

Very true. But unless we have a BIG majority, we won't see it happen. All you'll hear is socialized medicine! socialized medicine! socialized medicine! socialized medicine!

guys, i am begging you not to stretch my words. i did not say and do not think the GOP "will" or even "probably will" win November. But I am doubtful that the Democrats are justified in feeling so smug. What I see on the road and sometimes in this blog is a sense that in choosing a party nominee many Democrats beleive they are actually choosing the next president, as if their party's electability is a foregone conclusion. I see more GOP voters thinking harder about who will beat the other side (which might be why they're more confused).

wait a sec.. i think the dems tried that 'who will beat the other side' stuff last time.. with dems it's often good to 'go with the heart'

Craig.... I hear ya....

tylenol.... the problem was that the last time we picked the wrong candidate...
Kerry did not fight the good fight that needed to be fought.....

the Republicans will fight tooth and claw to stay in power and will throw everything they've got at the Democratic candidate no matter who it turns out to be, IMO.....

that's why I've decided on second thought..... that Obama's operatives dirty tricks no longer bother me....

Thank God for Allen's Macaca moment! He just doesn't seem very bright...and we don't need a GWB clone anywhere near the wH, let alone in it!

2/3 of the country thinks we are on the wrong
The same number doesn't care if things are getting better in Iraq they still think the war was a mistake

With no Democratic contest, no one voted in Michigan.

When the attention turns back to the Bush administration and the gutless Republicans
by November, the Greens will be the second party in the US. A permanent majority -- Democrats should have that made into a t shirt to wear at the convention.

according to my local paper
the recession is here.

a recession is two quarters with numbers going down.. that, by my calculation, means that recession's been here for quite a while.. how many quarters is it going to take for anyone to take the 'r' word seriously? Every time the reps get their hands on the economy it goes into the toilet.

dog
I think he was working on the Richardson campaign this year.

KGC

Keep your chin up. The Dow is only down another 230 points today.

Sidarth and the other UVA student Mike Stark had quite an impact with just a camera and youtube.

That's right...not too worry Shrub is announcing his plan tomorrow

Ty,
Here's what I learned in my econ classes in college:

A recession is when you lose your job.
A depression is when I lose my job.
;-)

I've got a couple of questions for you all:

Which Democratic candidate will most likely bring out the Republican base?

Which Republican candidate will most likely bring out the Democratic base?

Which candidate(s) are most appealing to the independents?

The media does its usual shoddy job of explaining what is going on. Recession is geographic and someplaces worse than others. It's a national story now because now a majority of the country is there or very near by.

And they tie everything to the stock market. oy vey.

:) dnd.. yep..pretty much...

If Democrats use the Ed Rendell model right leaning independents are not needed for victory.

Rendell beat the much further right Bob Casey, jr in the primary and went on to be elected gov twice in Pa without ever leaning right and the charge against him always was that he was too liberal

the economy is reported to be going south here in NH also...

I did have excellent sales in the galleries for December.... but it will be interesting to see what happens this winter..... I usually sell quite bit in January and February..... only time will tell....

thank god my husband has a job with an international company....
he tells me sales have been very strong is Europe.....

Independents have shown no inclination to vote for republicans at all. In Michigan they just stayed home/

dnd....

my thoughts on your questions are

Clinton
Guiliani or Huckabee
Obama or Clinton

http://news.yahoo.com/s/weeklystandard/20080116/cm_weeklystandard/thegiulianiimplosion

Rudy should get a girlfriend , another headache something anything and go home before Florida and total humiliation.

Looking back at the accent discussion - having a bit of a drawl myself, which Mrs. Pogo (damn yankee) loves to point out, I certainly don't see a drawl as a negative. Johnson, Carter, Clinton - let's see, aren't those all the Dem presidents we've had in the last 50 years? Plus there's Dumya ( and believe me, I hate to acknowledge that, but then he & johnson had that Texas twang more than a southern drawl - and they ain't the same). Who didn't? Nixon, Reagan, Ford (doesn't count, wasn't elected), Bush 41. I think maybe the drawl could be seen as an asset.

What Renee Said :-)

the world's nicest candidate on flag flying etiquette

"Today in South Carolina the Huckster appealed to racists everywhere when he told them that "outsiders" in government shouldn't be telling states "what to do with their flags."

kc, he will - just give him time.

Normally I would agree that the southern accent in any form would be a plus. It's the dislike of Bush and the intensity of that dislike, that makes me wonder if people might shy away for a candidate with one.

I know when Edwards speaks, I do a mental cringe and then remind myself to listen. Huckabee and thompson just make me cringe.

jamie texas vs. southern - listen carefully and you can hear the difference. if you're from the south it rings like a bell.

if rudy's doing to badly why are ppl talking about some magical 4-way race? did something shift? or is it just BloJoe (oops) MoJoe's wishful thinking?

on wait.. nevermind.. weekly standard.. william the terrible krystol..

isn't dubya's texas accent phony??

they refuse to admit he is on adownward trajectory and the other three are passing him. He used to be WAAAAAY ahead in the Fla polls and now he is barely second. The more he campaigns the worse the does.

He did campaign in NH and Romney attacked him and Rudy slunk out of town.

Had some laughs read you guys this afternoon.

Aren't you all sassy!

cocaine cocaine cocaine

And there’s nothing like timing. Convicted ex-Giuliani South Carolina co-chair Thomas Ravanel (cocaine) will be sentenced on… Jan. 28. The Florida primary is the next day

ty, I'm not sure Dumya's accent is WHOLLY phony, but it is definitely practiced.

KC, think McCain is purchasing billboard space with a pic of Ravanel and Rudi with the single word cocaine under their pic to run until the FL primary is over?

Craig,

I agree whole heartedly. Style is definitely the diferance.

And When we have a nominee after Feb 5th, Rove or one of his graduates will grab the Republican Candidate and their call Sign will be "Lets Roll" and the real dirty will begin. WE ALL should be ready to fight back.

We are great internet people. Let's all join the winners campaign and become part of the internet campaign. Last campaign half of what I did was write OPED's and blast them all over the country. Then letters to the Editor.
Then I got a line of supporters and passed all the campaigns stuff on tactics and also the OPEDS.

We forwarded all over the country. It was a blast and it was sucessful. I bet the campaign will be doing it again. So lets think about forming a group right here.

We're all smart.

Sheila....
sassy?...... sassy?...... hurmmmmmph.....

well my moniker doesn't include "rebellious" for no good reason...... ;)

on the accent thing..... I love accents..... I love languages and the fact that despite what the snobby Englishmen try to tell us.... they are alive and constantly changing...... I give all accents 2 thumbs up.....

Craig wrote " But I am doubtful that the Democrats are justified in feeling so smug."

Absolutely agree. I quit underestimating the Republican machine a long time ago.

I agree with Craig that the approach of the 2 parties is different by far, as the reds seem to be more watchful as to the November elections. Remember how we all looked at the blown-up maps and the solid red areas in the Midwest, the South...many clumps of red states, all went for Bush.
I can't help remembering that Bush's 1st administration was a total failure based on lies , but he was re-elected.
A fresh face running? ALL those states will again be red, possibly, no matter what was said on the night of the Iowa caucuses.
I think it was much more than a hatred for JFKerry...and the presidential-looking Romney or the energetic Rudy or the Christian vote-sucker Huckabee , or even Insane McCain, who says what , apparently,. millions want, a promise to keep troops in Iraq forever...any of these guys could seriously challenge HRC or O or Edwards.
Instead of punishing the repuggs, the independents may praise the new repugg candidate as a "savior of the Party..." all that stuff, and rally the base.
Yes, many on this blog have written for better than a year that whomever the Dems annoint, will win an LBJ-like landslide...not so,. mis amigos...this will be a battle into the next day, post-election. It's truly up for grabs.
We need to abolish the Electoral College. Popular vote should rule. But that ain't gonna happen.

Sheila,

We're smart and a large number of us have blogs that we can use in addition to opeds and letters to editors.

Could be fun.

Pogo -- Johnson definately had the Texas twang as opposed to the Southern drawl. Then you can get into the rural Kentucky/Loretta Lynn-speak) and that drippingly smooth Mississippi upper crust accent.....that one fascinates me.

hey patsi...like minds?

I would imagine the gop will have a lot of funds to throw around......how long has this war been going on? and how many billions have been squandered, lost, or received in no-bid contracts?

Jamie,

Keep it in mind. As soon as we know, I'm signing up and will be active.

Sheila's post is great
The Kerry campaign used letters to the Editor and opeds very successfully --because they weren't astroturf but individually written letters.

Look what I found on TV NEWSER. lol

Thursday Jan 17, 2008
Matthews Protested in Washington?

FishbowlDC has a tip about a planned 4pmET protest by the National Women's Political Caucus in front of the NBC News building in Washington, D.C. The protest was organized to object to Chris Matthews' "sexist comments and behavior" on MSNBC.

TVNewser will keep an eye on this throughout the day...

the gop will have plenty of money.......and they cannot afford to lose......that adds up to a pretty solid and sordid attack upon whomever runs as democrat.
this election is not in the bag for demos......

Most of here do have faves and write our feeling here.
For me, my man was Dennis Kucinich, who has been silenced. Then next was Mike Gravel. Marginalized from the get-go.
Then Bill Richardson...never caught fire. Now it is John Edwards, categorized as third in a 2-horse race.
So if I gotta decide between the Big Two, I prefer HRC.
Just slightly, because Obama promises change and then promises to tap the brains of all the "experienced" old timers. I ain't buying it.

What happens if the administration declares "victory" and begins pulling out troops.......or if they should find Bin Laden's dna in a cave somewhere......
?

Sturg
in the right track wrong track poll
people have said they don't care if we are "winning" in Iraq -it was still a mistake to go in the first place.

I'm sure there is something the Republicans could do and I know there are mistakes the Democrats can make ...but so far all the evidence is on the side of the Democrats.

Sturg, we're still !@#$% economically and the country REALLY knows who care enough to ride the storm with them and it Ain't a rich Republican.

More liberal governments world wide (and enlightened dems in the US) have been warning the Bush admin that to keep borrowing money from the saudis and the chinese is economic suicide -- all to pay for a war half a world away-- for oil that is now up over $100 a barrel. Look at world currencies and others are not faring nearly as badly. The pound is up, the Euro is flying..heck even our sad loonie has been beating up Washington (he IS on the 1 isnt he?) lately. This is a home grown mess with only the likes of Rumsfeld, Chaney, David Frum, William Kristol et al to thank for it. Whatever you think of the presidency of Clinton, he PAID down the debt and had a huge surplus when he left office. I used to stare at people disbelievingly when they said it didnt matter who was in power it would be the same. What planet are they on?? What horrid people, with so much power. And then they sent the one person who was afforded some respect in the world, Colin Powell, to lie to everyone at the UN, and went in unilaterally when the entire world was asking them to wait. I know the reps refer to the UN snearingly, but Hans Blix (brilliant weapons inspector) was right all along. This administration was indeed very scary.

Sheila....
we discussed that protest this morning..... it's all over the blogs.....
hope some other network carries it..... cuz you just know that MSNBC ain't....

sturg.... find Bin Laden's dna in a cave..... you mean lie about it.....

http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/article/20080117/NEWS/801170390/1033/NEWS01

I guess no one told these folks in Napa they should be drinking beer

a republican friend of mine sent me an e-mail with a picture of a real bumper sticker in Kentucky.....it reads:

Elect Monica Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend's wife President

The attack they will mount will make that look like something from Little Miss Sunshine......

This time when McCain's service was attacked the media was quick to descredit the claim and the people making the claim. I hope they are that quick with other claims in the future.

RebRen......them guys lie REALLY well......

I know Renee,

At least someone annouced it. It may get play tonight ot tomorrow on FNC..... I don't think anyone else.

This time when McCain's service was attacked the media was quick to descredit the claim and the people making the claim. I hope they are that quick with other claims in the future.

---KGC

Rotsa Ruck

Oh.....I bet if it was taped, Entertainment tonight will air it tomorrow....... ;0)

I saw a "Yuckabee" bumper sticker

live chat today at firedoglake
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"For me, my man was Dennis Kucinich,"

Dex -- I heard an interesting show on NPR this afternoon.It was an interview with a guy who puts together those "Pick Your Candidate" polls. A huge number of Democrats end up with Dennis....but it somehow doesn't show up in the vote.

Just got finished reading the posts I missed while I was sleeping. Not too much arguing today , which is good! What's this naked women blogging all about?

Hey Guys! Never ever underestimate a Repub! They have mastered the ground game of getting out the Vote. I'll admit that it seems likely Dem would win the General right now, but come the actual General race that may be a very different story.

If recent memory serves me right in prior elections, haven't the Democratic Nominees who all had this built in presumption that they were Presidential Winner lose?

I'd vote Dennis sans doubt.......

" my accent more resembles that soft southern gulf coastal accent than the LL hilbilly accent. "

That gulf coast sound really is distinct, and it's one of my favorites, pogo....

Loretta's is, of course, VERY rural Appalachian.

pogo
the trend lines are bad for Rudee. The more he campaigns the worse the does. I believe he has spent the most and campaigned the most in Fla and didn't he used to be very far a head?

Corey, JennBe was teasing you :-). I was trying to get yyou a date.;-)

mayor joe riley.....charleston sc.....very close to an old charleston accent but not quite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4K8rwUy_PA

I did early voting today. Mostly people over 50....that's not surprising. But I ran into a guy I used to work with at the voting place and I mentioned that it was thrilling to actually feel like my vote counted for somethng and my candidate wouldn't be chosen by a few states. He said that had been a major topic of conversation in the circles he runs in as well. He said that a lot of people seemed pissed that they've felt their votes never counted before.

Yeah, Patsi, it's a reflection of the effort you don't want to exert in the angry heat of southern summers. Actually, there are dozens of dialects down there.

True story - Mrs. P & I were at an outlet center in Hagerstown, MD, and this guy in front of us in Eddie Bauer or LL Bean, I forget which, had a pretty slow southern accent - Mrs. P mentioned it to me, and said he sounded just like my mother. I commented to him that he didn't sound like he was from around Hagerstown, and he said no, he was from Alabama. I told him I was, too - Birmingham - and asked where he was from. He said Opelika - which is where my mom's family is from. Has Mrs. P got an ear or what?

Oops, gotta go. Time slipped away. Later.

HE"S APPOLOGISING????????

omg! tweety is attempting to appologize bout what he said about Hillary only being elected new york senator because Bill fooled around.

Well Hang Me Low or Hang Me High.....but I just saw something that means the end of the world is near.

I have to watch again at 7pm....

be still my beating heart. my hubby thinks i was hearing things. lol

me too sheila, and record it too!

Tweety's apology brought me out of a dead sleep. Hell must be freezing over.

Kathy (The Queen) must have said something....He's afraid of her.....or his feelings may be hurt from the thought of a protest. lol

Yes I'm happily married, but you never know? I'll be 40 in a couple of months, might have a mid-life crisis.

Regarding my Tequila remark-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqv-2emERFw

I was outside for a second and had to rewind when I realized what Matthews was doing!

what?..... Tweety is apologizing on national teevee.....
I'll have to watch the replay at 7

and for those of you who love John Stewart....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/17/stewart-blasts-media-cove_n_82021.html

Not sure it was good enough, but HEY! Its a start.

geeez....
this is an exciting thought..... maybe we actually can make a difference....
at least where Tweety is concerned......

blogs dedicated to his hatred....
letter writing campaigns spear-headed to MSNBC
and now a planned protest....

he's finally listening...... HA!

Must be National "I'm sorry "day
Robert Johnson apologizes to Obama
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/01/robert-johnson.html

When he apologized did he say "It's not you , it's me." ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ1tBYV1cgU

From Tweety.

Tweety is a ratings whore. And if it takes an apology, that's ok by him.

Or maybe he's been sleeping on the couch. And his daughter won't talk to him. Maybe Craig can ask him?

LOLOL Good One Corey!

Looks like the casino caucus' are on.

CNN just showed Bill Clinton blow a gasket when a reporter asked him about the suit.

well.... someone at sweetjesusihatechrismatthews just posted that Tweety claimed he didn't do anything wrong....just made a poor choice of words....

guess I'll have to make sure to watch it and make up my own mind about what he didn't or did say....

but if the above is true..... I say keep that protest on...

Here's a link for the Clinton blow up-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uthdea6X2PE

There goes Tweeties liberal bias coming out- "Will the Repubs even have a nominee"

I'm sure we will, we just don't know who it is.

JennBe,
"I'm sure we will, we just don't know who it is."

Chuck Hagel. And if it is, I'm buying the tequila...

Thanks Dog. I know my place here. LOL!

Jennbe,

That's not liberal Bias, That's senastionalism. He's a republican and his brother is staunch in Pennsylvania

corey.....lol

Costanza: You cant tell me "it's not you it's me...." "It's not you it's me" is MINE........I'm FAMOUS for "it's not you it's me....."

No Craig?????

I just got a cheezy (real cheezy and sleazy) push poll in the mail from the DNC. Actually, the poll was just a pretext for asking for a contribution. I'm tempted to write them a check for a million dollars and then call my bank to stop payment on the check.

Renee,

remember my hopeful prediction about the offensive coordinator in Dallas? I wanted Jason Garrett to stay and assume the Head Coaching job. He turned down two head coaching jobs (Ravens and Falcons) and is still in Dallas. Got a raise to about 3 million a year. Wade had to get a raise also so he would make more money than Jason. Half the dream has come true.

yo soy Horsedooty!

the way this blog's been running I'm wondering if Craig found a fish wrapped in newspapers in the green room........

Sturgeone , here's why I said that. A friend of mine at work said her 12 year-old son's girlfriend broke up with him the other day. She broke up with him by giving him a letter. In her letter , she explained "It's not you , it's me." I just found that funny that a 12 year-old girl would tell a boy that.

...Disapointment. Craig wanted me to relay to you guys that there was a technical meltdown in the studio and he didn't get on.

Well next time Craig!

corey.....lol......yup, I think "It's not you, it's me" is ageless.......

Where was Craig?

Gotta go make dinner while Tucker is on.

TTYL

dog -- Conway had 55 number 1 records! I don't think anyone else has come close.

Doots,
I really liked Wade when he was defensive coach for the Broncos. He didn't get a fair shake when he became head coach. Haven't followed much since.

But I'm no fan of the Cowboys after they thumped the Broncos in Superbowl XII. And after Jones dumped Coach Landry.

Patsi....every time I hear Twitty do "BumBum Bum"....I gag.... lol Gross out!

I remember Conway Twitty when he was still a rock n roll dude......"Little Lucy dont you Put No Lipstick On" and "It's only Make Believe" that must have been 58 or 59 or so.........

You've Never Been This Far Before.....Bum Bum Bum....gag me....lol

http://music.yahoo.com/track/862274

Two blog posts that show why John Mayer is a good guy. The last 2 posts he's written. Cowboys fans should take note.

http://www.johnmayer.com/blog

Obama's spiritual mentor
Powerhouse Chicago preacher draws attention, and plenty of controversy
By Michael Hill | Sun Reporter
January 16, 2008

CHICAGO - The packed house at Trinity United - some 3,000 in all - had been in the pews for almost two hours, energized by a 200-voice choir and a rousing dance performance Sunday, when the Rev. Jeremiah Wright stepped up to speak.

Wright is well-known in Chicago and in the black church world for taking over a small United Church of Christ congregation in 1972 and turning it into an 8,000-member powerhouse. More recently, his name has become familiar as the longtime spiritual mentor of Barack Obama, who joined the church in 1988 - a move Obama says was important to shaping his identity as an African-American.

On Sunday morning - amid intensified crossfire between Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Obama over the use of race in the Democratic presidential campaign - Wright was preaching from the Gospel of John, using his powerful style to link the story of the loaves and fishes to a contemporary political message.

Some argue that blacks should vote for Clinton "because her husband was good to us," he continued.

"That's not true," he thundered. "He did the same thing to us that he did to Monica Lewinsky."

I remember Conway when he was the next "Elvis Presley". The first release sounded so much like Elvis that people weren't sure through the first few bars.

He was great later as a country singer.

I just read that Obama silenced him and I just saw a spoken statement on the CLintons support and efforts for the Black communities and how this all should just stop.

Good for him.

Well he didn't silence him but he did distance himself from the remarks as others have done from remarks made by those outside their campaigns

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/01/obamas_spiritual_mentor.html

ha, somebody must have read this blog and switched off the satellite. no, seriously, the studio in orlando lost the feed, so no hardball for me tonite

LOLOL Craig,

You'd a thunk that we are a good look into the conversations in this very country. YOu should recommend us for background.

Sorry you didn't make it!

Dooty....
good to hear that.... hope the other half comes true too.....

sorry to find out no Craig on Hardball tonight..... guess I'll only be watching the opening minutes.....

Corey.... I don't understand all the uproar about Tony Romo's romance with Jessica Simpson..... I've never paid attention to any sports figure's home life... I figure that's their business..... I just want to see them compete in their sport to the best of their abilities.....

Tucker, Bill Press, and Buchnan just did a short go around about Obama's pastor in Illinois and his support of Farakahn among others. Their main point being that come the general everything the man had ever said will be brought out in connection with Obama.

It doesn't matter who the Democratic party runs, we know the Republicans are going to do something hideously foul. Rush and O'Reilly alone are going to be neck deep in their own doo doo so we might as well get used to hearing it now and figuring ways to fight back.

Chris....Your spinning. You called her "She-Devil" among many other sexist smears.

Ok, Half of an appology.

Chris Made talking Points Memo.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

Well What a day!

Judge Rules In Favor Of Vegas Strip Caucus Sites

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2008/01/judge_rules_against_nevada_caucus_lawsuit.php

LMAO @ **'I'm for the little guy', 'I love politics', 'women rock' ..."**

Sheila,

I have a question. You have said that you support Obama because he is "moderate". This always throws me for a loop since his voting record is so much more liberal than Clintons. I'm curious why you think he is the more moderate of the two.

Jamie,

I have said, I am moderate. But I am historically an Independent. Obama is more to my serious need for ALL people to work together in this country and begin the fix.

He is inclusive. I think we have more of a chance to get it right at the start, rather than more of the establishments same ole, same ole. I like his steadfast rise above most of the swipes. I like his steadfast stick to his ideals. For a solid year he has kept steadfast with his ideology and his honesty. I've been watching very very closely and I see the same proinciples, no matter what happens to rattle his cage.

I like him. I no way do I think he's moderate. I think he's Fresh. Now THAT is a word I've used a lot.

Okay. That makes sense. It was the word "moderate" that was throwing me. Thanks.

My goodness, all these mea culpas, today, are giving me(yet another) Christine Lavin ear worm.

This one is particularly comical, as she mentions Bill Clinton in the lyrics.

NATIONAL APOLOGY DAY
Christine Lavin
One Wild Night in Concert
1998
______

We got Mother's Day for Mothers
Valentine's Day for love
Labor Day for workers
Earth Day for the ozone up above
but there's one holiday I'd really love to see
when I have explained it to you
maybe you'll agree

we need a National Apology Day
a day that you pick up the telephone and say
that you are sorry to everyone you've ever slighted
wrongs don't last as long once they are righted

a National Apology Day
you can feel the guilt lift and float away
you can kiss goodbye any of those
long standing grudges
we'll have less need for
therapists, lawyers, cops and judges

it's the civilized, sophisticated way
yes you, too could be part of National Apology Day
it could be the Friday that comes
right after Thanksgiving
once we've counted all our blessings
and the reasons that we're glad we're living

we make a list, we dial, we make amends
for the things that have ticked off all of our friends
and our relatives
and our co-workers
and our neighbors down the street
we discover humble pie
is not the worst thing we could eat

a National Apology Day
we can ask the President to lead the way
he can apologize to Paula Jones
for his supposed crime
and she can apologize to us
for wasting all of our time!!!!!
(what was she thinking?)

and if anybody here doesn't like this song
well, I'm sooo sorry, but at least it's not very long
so, if the topic pops up, I hope now that you will say
we need a National Apology Day
(Marv Albert)
we need a National Apology Day
(we're waiting Bill and Paula)
WE NEED A NATIONAL APOLOGY DAY!!!!

That's OK, Craig, we didn't need you, WE GOT TUCKER TO FILL YOUR HARDBALL SLOT!
That's the first time I watched any of that obnoxious small-mind's work in years.
And please, Orlando sat-feed minders, DO NOT LET THAT HAPPEN AGAIN!
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...so-o-o-o...who dropped the hammer on Chris Matthews head? We all know he has been taking tremendous hits in the blogosphere for what is just plain crassness.
Was it public bloggers' opinion, or corporate NBC who leaned on Chris Matthews and made him give his little talk?
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Corey: If the Red Wings lose to Vancouver tonight I will be very upset. They haven't won in a very long time. Dominator in the goal...I would rather have Ozzie in there....but look for a Zetterberg breakout tonight. Time to get to it.

Sheila- I totally agree with your post above about Obama. The reasons why I and many others liked him bear little resemblance to what the pundits say-

Chris' Appology just made HUFFPO....Me thinks his boss' said something.....

Chris' has a huge Premadona ego. He is not hard to read. The only thing he's really sorry for is that people don't like him. That hurst his feelings. He is not sorry for hating Hillary Clinton and he has LONG been sexist.

He was that way when I worked on his show. That was in the 90's.

Off topic, but it's Shelia's fault for diverting me to Huffpo.

Memo to Les Moonves:
Subject: What would Walter Cronkite do?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/15/katie-couric-caught-on-ta_n_81594.html

Dnd,

This one's for you. ;0)

Joke leaves 'em gasping

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jan/17/joke-leaves-em-gasping/

Awe dnd,

Katie didn't surprise you did she? I think she's twerp, but she was OK in that clip.

Shelia,
"he has LONG been sexist.
He was that way when I worked on his show. That was in the 90's."

Matthews' wife has been making him sleep on the couch since the 90's? No wonder he's so crabby!

"Joke leaves 'em gasping"

Sigh.

hi.. back home.. some of you know i'm studying theology..hopefully for ordination but that's a ways away.. in the meantime, I'm assigned to a church and a friend just sent me a link to a video he shot at our Christmas service.. please if you just cant stand the idea of amateur music, by all means dont click on the link.. i wont be offended.. but I'm kinda proud of this.. this is a combination of the children's choir, the music group (my two daughters are in it) and other musicians.. I'm the blonde leaning on the piano.. my daughter (17) is the blonde next to me and my other daughter (19) is the tiny girl in the row behind. This was produced on Quicktime so if you have windows you may not be able to run it.. when it downloads move the cursur to about halfway along the bar.. the title is "the choir".. :)

http://www.kjbrown.net/misc/Movie.html

Shelia,
I didn't care that Katie said "shit" or that she was "bubbly" with her staff. Or that she was concerned about her appearance on camera. What stunned me is how clueless she was about the stuff she was reporting on. Anybody here has a better grasp of the issues than she exhibited in that clip. Maybe it misrepresented her. I dunno. I'm just sayin'...

I'm sorry dnd....it didn't surprise me. She is a La La Girl. They hired her for the ratings. Sorry, I thought you knew. She is also mean though. Very Mean

I just saw tweety's "apology"...what a crock.. this was about his remarks about all women..

Tylenol

I loved the clip particularly the song choice. The voices were wonderful for two of my favorite carols. During the lead up to Christmas on my blog, I used both songs for articles.

http://jdurward.blogspot.com/2007/12/on-third-day-of-christmas.html

http://jdurward.blogspot.com/2007/12/love-songs.html

Tweety made the apology for the ONE thing he had said about Senator Clinton. I noticed he never addressed the whole chain of events that add up to an obvious attitude of demeaning women and Senator Clinton in particular.

Tylenol,

nice video thanks for sharing.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Ty,
Great video. No wonder you're so proud of your talented daughters.

LMAO @ **"(insert smart ass emoticon here)"**

dog.. the first president who, when he talks, we all hear the L&O "ching-ching"

Chris has an interesting way of delivering a mea culpa, he keeps on chattering @ 100 mph and smiling, smiling, smiling.

At least he said he 'got it'. And he seemed to be kinder after saying that.

tt

Chris Matthews Mea Culpa
At least he said "he got it"

http://patterns2.blogspot.com/

tt

Huck's son arrested with gun @ airport.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=3085058

It's dated April but is all over the net today.

tt

Label head Jimmy Bowen callled Conway's "Redneck pompadour" and "Rock & roll pompadour."

That was when he (Bowen) told Conway in the early '80s that he needed to modernize his image and music or he would be over. Conway did just that, changed the pompadour to a perm.....got some'80s threads....some new music,and had a new hit run into the 1990's. (It was a move worthy of a politician.)

hey tylenol, loved the video and the song choices, thanks for posting it.

Hey all;
I went looking for information on the nevada caucus rules for an argument on another site and found this thought you might find it interesting

http://www.nvdemscaucus.com/images/ draftdelselupdated_oct2007l.pdf

The official rules for the Nevada caucus. It tells you more than you would ever want to know. I'm was looking at page 50 -- 53 , the delegate apportionment rules. Its giving me a headache.
If your interested look at them and tell me what you think.
I'm going to bed and see if they make more since in the morning.

Jack

Jack

Unrelated to anything else, I worked on my blogs again. Wow, the newer format is so much easier. One is the old format, & I have to go into the code still. Time consuming, I must say. So here they are. They're even linked.

http://patterns2.blogspot.com/

http://assorted-images.blogspot.com/

tt

Bowman C has some interesting pix on his blog of the NH primaries..

http://mudgeling.blogspot.com/

tt

Chris "Im a good person who said a bad thing" Matthews.

ooooooookay.........

Chris "I'm a good, even great, person who is perceived by some nitpickers with nothing else to do to have said what some perhaps might somehow mistakenly think may have possibly been a slightly bad---well, not exactly bad, but maybe some small bit less than good-----thing" Matthews.

You nailed it, Sturge!