Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

LA Times opinion Kathleen Kennedy for Hillary Clinton

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-kennedy29jan29,0,1618955.story

Senator Clinton has been involved with the Children's Defense Fund for almost it's entire 35 year history.

http://www.childrensdefense.org/

serving as its chairwoman for a number of years in the mid 80's.

This week's coverage of the campaigns ledd me to email this note to MSNBC:

I have known for years that the press was in love with John McCain. I understand the press loves Barack Obama. But NBC's complete and utter loathing for Hillary Clinton, and attempts to influence an election has finally driven me around the bend. So with apologies to Comcast's advertising crew, I leave you with this message to Tim, Chris, Joe, Tucker -- and yes, even Keith:

You are an extremely terrifying cable channel. Just the scariest subterranean commentators on television. I'm afraid that you will give me and my granddaughter nightmares, so I'm going to have to block you. Oh, and tell the zombies they're blocked too.

Hillary Rodham before there was Bill she was famous

FORGING HER OWN PATH

Hillary Rodham arrived at Yale in 1969 a minor celebrity, thanks to her commencement speech at the equally elite Wellesley College outside of Boston, where she rebuked a senator who was sitting nearby.

Rodham gained more prominence during the second semester of her first year at Yale Law, when it seemed like ''the whole place was falling apart . . . the most intense year in the history of Yale Law School,'' said Laura Kalman, who wrote Yale Law School and the Sixties: Revolt and Reverberations.

Several Black Panthers were on trial for murder in New Haven. The campus, opened to New Left demonstrators associated with the trial, became a circus. Downtown business owners, fearing violence, boarded up their windows. A law library was set afire. The shooting deaths of four student demonstrators at Kent State University in Ohio by National Guardsmen further enraged campuses nationwide.

Rodham -- sympathetic to the angry left but insistent that its grievances could be resolved within the system -- moderated a tense campus meeting at which violence seemed to percolate under the surface, as students debated how to respond to Kent State and issues specific to Yale.

Quoting an unnamed student, Kalman wrote: ''Hillary did what nowadays would be international summitry -- flying back and forth between sides,'' maintaining credibility with all, impressing faculty and fellow students, helping to keep New Haven peaceful.

Rodham's time at Yale also introduced her to children's issues through her work for the Children's Defense Fund and New Haven legal-aid lawyer Penn Rhodeen
http://www.miamiherald.com/politicalcurrents/story/375960.html

Clinton worked on the Nxon impeachment hearings
it got Thompson elected to the Senate.

I think Senator Clinton could just as easily been Senator Rodham.

Mebbe that was Jeb's pet 'possum and she's about to boil it like a bunny. She will not be ignored.

And she was the first female partner in the Rose Law Firm.

Health Care
although she did not get overall reform she did learn from her mistakes and went on to address two of the needest groups

As First Lady of the United States, she took a prominent position in policy matters. Her major initiative, the Clinton health care plan, failed to gain approval by the U.S. Congress in 1994, but in 1997 she helped establish the State Children's Health Insurance Program and the Adoption and Safe Families Act.

If you bothered to read other people's posts you would know.

The legislature passed the standards and passed new taxes to pay for them. Legislators and others praised Mrs. Clinton for her work, and said the new standards were the most important long-range steps for education that the state had ever taken.
http://www.oldstatehouse.com/educational_programs/classroom/arkansas_news/detail.asp?id=528&issue_id=29&page=1

Sheila,

Re Obama taking JFK into the future. Guess he can thanks to Caroline, but not RFK,. His children are supporting Clinton. Kathleen did the editorial above and i'm sure Clinton could get her to do a commercial

The pictures from the Ambassador of the RFK assassination could be very effective or RFK's speech on the MLK death would certainly be equally "inspirational" to the Caroline commercial featuring JFK

Updates from the Intrade Presidential Futures markets...

As there is very little or no trading in many of the Feb. 5th races, I have revised the dashboard to reflect two additional markets.

1) Winner-Takes-All market: This market attempts to predict who will eventually win the General Election in November. The graph depicts the probability for each candidate currently in the race. Until party nominees are selected, this market is a nice surrogate for head-to-head match ups of various candidates.

2) National Political Party Vote Shares market: This market attempts to predict the percentage each party will garner in the November election. As you will see, this graph is fairly flat at this time. However, this market does not typically receive much attention until after the nominees for each party are selected.

http://www.central.edu/publicdocs/01%2D30%2D08FuturesMarketGraphs.pdf

For a short tutorial on Presidential Futures Markets, please see:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/01/florida-to-forecast-both-party-1.html#comment-16896

you can post the link to the comment
as spike did with the explanation of how intrade works

The family representation while excellent for both campaigns are irrelevent.

The message is not in ownership. I'm not speaking "tit-for-tat here.

*gigglesnorts @ all the possum caps*

They kinda have the same expressions on their faces, don't they?

A chart of sorts in honor of c'bob.

http://www.grist.org/candidate_chart_08.html?source=liveearth

McCain thanking Ahnnold and the Plunger

Gee he didn't mention that Ahnnold was an undocumented worker who overstayed his visa

Hey folks, away from desktop on blackberry but need to say: old comments don't go away and each has its own url for spotlighting in a newer post. Things will get unmanageable if we import too many old comments into new posts. If you want to call attention to an old comment, just click the highllighted date under a comment -- your browser will open a page with that comment on top -- just copy the url and paste it in your comment to a new post. It will automatically create a link to that comment.

Dog I like your style. Thanks for reposting. Interesting day today. ;0)

Here is a blog I posted on 24 November. Unfortunately, it seems the situation has not gotten better, only worse. And now instead of just Obama, the Clintons were forced to join the "fray"

Obama Needs to Take the High Road as Promised
Current mood: discontent
Category: News and Politics

The following is a message I sent to the Barak Obama official MY SPACE. I like Barak, and I like Hillary. But I have been increasingly disturbed by Barak's attacks on other candidates, particularly Hillary. It isn't like no one else does this, but Barak was campaigning on the need for a "new politics", instead of all the usual attacks one sees in Presidential campaigns. He has apparently abandoned this goal after seeing his popularity figures dwindling and Hillary's skyrocketing. Here is the message:

"I have to say .. Obama has increasingly disappointed me. I really loved his keynote speech at the Democratic National Convention in 2004, and also his call for a "new politics" when he announced his interest in running for President. But, when he wasn't getting the numbers he hope for, he went on the attack on Hillary particularly. I am a Clinton fan from the days Bill and Hillary were in the White House. I have also watched with great interest and hope with Obama's run for the Presidency. But his vicious attacks on Hillary has taken away the moral high ground he pledged to walk on.

I don't expect you guys to post this comment. I am still open to Obama, but I need to see less attacks on Hillary and a return to the "new politics" he has given us much hope to see in this election cycle.

Oh and one more thought. Democrats attacking Democrats only hurts the whole party going into the general elections. I wish it would stop. We can't afford another Republican President.

Thank you,

Thomas"

http://mediamatters.org/action_center/matthews_monitor/

i tawt a taw tweety

Craig: "If you want to call attention to an old comment, just click the highlighted date under a comment and copy the link into the new thread "

Excellent housekeeping tip. Maybe that should go as a header at the top of each thread....

Thank you George for doing your best to strengthen our military and keep us safe in the Homeland (god, I hate that term - it sounds so Hitlerian).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/31/us-military-may-not-be-re_n_84286.html

Since McCain is looking more and more like the Repug nominee,and is BushII in all matters military, I hope that Hillary or Obama throws this in his face and asks what, aside from throwing money he doesn't have at the problem, does he propose to do to address the lack of readiness of our military to defend the US.

Here's a great move:

McCain and Hillary should agree on a joint statement calling for action on Darfur and Kenya. They should formulate a compromise position that is tough and calls for the UN and others to move past the stalemate to "protect the human rights" of those suffering. They can signal a new effort tot really bring Deomcrats and Republicans together rather than other candidate's strategies of division and blame.

In a bold move it shows new Republican and Democratic willingness for bipartanship as well as map out some of the JFK/Reagan policy either candidate would likely field.

Now who needs this more, McCain or Hillary? I think it serves them more, than detracts. Now that's thinking outside the box. I think it nails Romney and Obama.

Any thoughts?

No offense Euro Tom, really.

But please spell his name "Barack" not Barak. Seems to be a habit and you were so interesting when finding out the correct spelling and the Names meaning.

I thought the meaning was meaningful. Barack = Blessed. Thank you for that. ;0)

It's an interesting thought Maxtrue... it could show that bipartisan can work. I think self-interest will stop anyone from doing this. But send it to the campaigns... why not?

right! I understand Sheila, but that post was written 24 November. But I agree !!!

Craig--
just wondering......have you mentioned anything to your friends at MSNBC about people feeling that their coverage is beginning
to be as tainted as that of Fox news--albeit in the opposite direction?

And again, as a courtesy to readers and your source sites, PLEASE do not copy large blocks of text when links are available. Excerpts are fine, with links. And whenever you paste a full url into a comment, the system automatically converts it into a clickable link

oops sorry Craig

McCain can't afford that move max because he is seen by too many on the hard core right as a liberal leaning maverick.

To do anything in conjunction with Hillary Clinton would only exacerbate that impression and it would make it harder for him to win in November.

OT: Has anyone seen the film Buried Alive with Steve Sandvoss and Terence Jay? It's a horror film, and my little Italiano made me watch it. But there is this really cool song that Terence wrote and sings for the end titles. I love it. If you want to take a listen go to http://www.myspace.com/eurotom . The song is not commercially released, but I loved it IMMEDIATELY when I heard it. It's called Demon.

Caption: Just one hundred more and I'll have my coat!

how about "separated at birth?"

dog, been there in the echo chamber before. Another voice is always welcome, no?

dog, there is a critical difference between Hillary's statement about communicating the healthcare proposal better and Dumya's seriatum attempts to get unpopular legilation passed - she understands that her explanation of a very complex proposed solution to a very complex problem was not adequate and would actually explain it better the second time around - Dumya seems to think we were too dumb to get the wisdom of his simple approach to what he views as a simple problem (no matter what the problem or how complex it really is) the first time and just repeats the same old platitudes he said the last time, only louder.

Truebeliever -- I've said it on the air about most DC media. FYI: MSNBC has comment boards for such thoughts. Jamie, you still have the link to that one uinder my name? I don't have it on my blackberry. It would be more effective to post complaints there

One cannot escape the message Obama is making. Democrats don't want a leader that has any views that can bridge the political divide. How he unites is strange. Any explananation?

McCain is loathed by the Right because he has views which are more moderate in some areas. I think it helps these two to explain what bipartisnaship means. The notion Obama is pushing is illogical. On one hand he sports JFK which the Washington Monthy article shows clearly Obama is not. In fact, he talks more about talking to enemies than he has actually talked to our European allies. He goes back to the past all the time, but disses the Clinton run as a return to our past. Quite amazing. He goes back to Reagan while touting position for the future that are extremely unReagan. He calls Hillary divisive as his campaign and rehtoric has produced the most divisive primary in years (LOL he blames the Clintons) and his remarks on SOTU as well as stump speeches are nothing about JFK like policy and much ado about evil Republicans. He actually copies Clinton policies now in Iraq and on the economy.

McCain will have no problem knocking Obama, but by showing some civility and bipartanship with Hillary now, he can take the steam out the attacks on the more centrist, consolidate his position and leave the final race about policy differences. I don't know if either would be so bold, but at the present rate, this race is devolving into fractionalism, idiot slogans and sleeping at the wheel which led to 9/11.

Did McCain support Desert Fox? Does Obama know what Thomas Ricks said about Desert Fox? Pretty funny that the media has yet to give an unbiased account of Iraq from 1990 -2003. It is quite a story flipping anf flooping all the way to Piro's interrogation of Saddam. Obama still thinks Bosnia and Desert Fox reprresents a failed past? How JFK of him, or shall I say, how Reagan of him.

Craig, an FYI - when I've gone to the MSNBC message boards, they require that you provideway more information than I normally do to nonsecure sites (and I have not gotten any message telling me that my info is encrypted and the site is secure) and they also require that you agree to Microsoft termsof use that includes payment of fees, etc. without making any mention of what those fees mitght be.)

However, you can contact Abrams and the rest via e-mail through links on the site, although it's been a while since I've done that.

Who said nominations are a done deal? Hell have Obama and Romney suggest it then. This is what sucks about politics. No one wants to work together because to do so may challenge their own personal fifedoms and political interests.

Maxture,

One cannot escape the message Obama is making. Democrats don't want a leader that has any views that can bridge the political divide. How he unites is strange. Any explananation?

YOu just make no sense. Sorry...don't pass go and collect $200. ;0)

Pogo--
Craig--

Thanks for the info--I will certainly speak my mind. I currently am an undecided voter, and although I do have leanings, I want decide on my own from the facts. Not what some is trying to shove down my throat.

I was disappointed that none of the candidates really spoke on on FISA and Harry Reid's poor treatment of Senator Dodd. Edwards did the most and then Clinton and Obama didn't even issue a statement until after the first vote.

I don't get it. Dodd is out there providing leadership they didn't even have to come up with a plan they could have just made the issue a focus in one campaign speech.

And they could have lobbied their Senate supporters who voted with the Republicans. FISA is a no brainer.

Caption:

This is my match from e-Harmony !

Katie,

Its important from a campaign point of view to concentrate on Health Care and other safe issues. Issues that are sanctioned as safe for now. FISA is still considered pretty contraversial publically.

Too devisive for the Primaries. Most for the General once the NOM is sealed.

Both Clinton and Obama are being prudent for now.

Euro Tom-
I still have my Kool Aid pitcher...only now I seve margarita's in it!
~G

Sheila

I completely disagree with that. The bill is very important and this would have been a great opportunity to demionstrate some leadership.

It would be more division in the general. They all share the same position. Why not do something together. It was more than the FISA vote as well. It was Reid's failure to respect Dodd's request for the hold.

Legislation and policies are happening during this campaign. The candidates shouldn't be in hiding.
If they can bring people together...let's do it now.
To me actions speak louder than words.

Here's Russ Feingold on FISA
on why it is important NOW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDlYcn5HEs8

caption:

Mirror, mirror on the wall--who is the fairest of them all?

Caption for photo:

"Don't taze me bro:

hey.. just because my caption contained the word "balls" doesnt mean ya should ignore the Canadian..

IShelia,

I will not repost Obama's speeches in the last week. He blasts Clinton for having any views that bridge the political divide. He calls them Republican views, or supporting Republican ideas. I suppose Bosnia or Desert Fox were Republican ideas. I suppose there was nothing in the Patriot Act worth passing. I suppose the Free Trade agreements were all completely wrong. The idea that a Democratic candidate should have views that reflect only Kos or Huffington is absurd. All on the gang of 14 should have been shot? Again. Obama makes the Republican Lite claim of anyone agreeing to a compromise, of bridging the divide. That is why he publically declared his support of the Amnesty Bill (to look compromising) and then tried to sink it by putting forward his brilliant and creatively imaginative idea to prevent employers from checking worker's status. This is classic Obama. He didn't even support the President's SOTU plea on Darfur. Hypocricy? Again Obama blasts sanctions on Iran making his public record in the speech he delivered to AIPAC a blatant lie. Read the speech. Do you get it? Do you except the reality of facts? Or is it all about the nice cherry Koool Aid? Google Obama's speeches, google his failed amendment during the Amnesty fight. He hasn't even taken an active fight on Kenya because it might favor some "Republican" ideas. It is such nonsense and I can see why some Obama supporters stamping such criticism right down. Do you not think it will be coming? And will Obama supporters cry "lynching" to avoid such vetting? Will Obama tell McCain what Reagan was about? Now really. Obama couldn't out flank Hillary's centrist credentials so he created a fairy tale he thought he could sell that would allow him to appear centrist while pandering to the Left with Leftish rhetoric. Maybe Democrats are blinded enough by ad work to believe. Hell, Obama's site asks us to believe. A real leader doesn't ask us to believe, but to see with our owneys the ideas and the vision laid out before us. Don't take anything on faith. Know only what you see and can reasonably assume. The rest is snake oil which is much what Bush sold. AH....how quickly we forget.

Now come on, you don't have to be a professional pundit to see this. And if you were a professional pundit, you probably would be using air time to promote such a myth to see the "irresistible force' beat the "immovable Clintons"...LOL

So I suggest Hillary touts her bipartanship and ask what the hell Obama means by bipartanism when he attacks her record of such bipartanship. It is completely disingenuous for all but the true believers.

The Constitution forbids religion as a requirement for holding office and what Obama suggests is that only those believing in his "religious" view (of course I mean this ideologically) ought to be nominated by Democrats. The future, we are asked to BELIEVE, is something Obama will deliver us oncce we defeat those evil Republicans. He'll get us to the promised land if only we believe. You know, only campaigns banckrupt of details and policies run on such blather. And when they stumble they come up with divisive slogans, scapegoats and excuses.

Funny how Nader thinks Obama more corrupt than Hillary in terms of economic policy. I know, Nader is a Republican Lite.

kook aid? LOL

http://www.counterpunch.org/nader01072008.html

The Nader piece on Obama. If you are an Obama supporter don't bother you've heard it all before.

Speaking of Kool Aid...the folks at TV Guide seem to be partaking!

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Cheers-38-Jeers/Scarboroughs-Morning-Joe/800032157

Dog,
Please link recent speechs by Obama on Darfur and particularly Kenya. I want to see his passion and plans. I want to see his bipartisan effort and what leadership and arm twisting he will use now to do something about the situation.

I have read through recent speeches and see nothing. I did not hear his applauding the SOTU's call to act on Darfur or blast those on the left who have recently called Darfur far less than genocide. Did Obama have words with Carter who also said Darfur wasn't genocide?
So show me the meat and show me the policy that will work or is this more of our believing Obama will get it done somehow AFTER we take the chance, believe and elect him President?

Don't know, do you?

MaxTrue - the great leader who said "We have met the enemy and he is us" was POGO.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/01/captioning-kate.html#comment-23845

Craig: Newbie here. I emailed you about your courageous stance against the MSNBC collective (or shall we say "Borg"?) about how they were distorting Clinton coverage.

I just have to know ... do these pundits work off a script or outline? In the case of MSNBC do they decide on a specific theme and run with it? It was quite disheartening to watch Keith join with the schoolyard bullies and be a party to the distortion. IMO it kinda takes the bite out of his special comments when he plays fast and loose with the truth. Let's put it this way, in seeing what he did to the Clintons' the night of the SC primary, I have to wonder about a lot of the stuff he has said about the Bush administration. And .. trust me... I PRAY that the things he has said about Bush are true.

Have to admit ... it's shaken my world view a bit. Up until now, I have viewed Keith as a GOD! LOL

Well the Judicial Watch List shows Hillary's long vetted crimes never proven, but look at Obama's record. Remember this is the guy touting his Ethics Bill in what is essentially his only act of bipartanship. Not pretty and Rezko is far from over. Maybe Obama will testify? The wisdom of it all as the Chicago papers claim far more donations that Obama has given back. to date, is questionable. And Obama gave back some of that cash only days ago after Clinton blasting. Obama has know about this for months. Are we to assume that her pressure caused him to donate Rezko to charity? Had Clinton done this, Mathews would be spitting on her picture live.

Look at the other "claims". May the typical DC politican, but the Second Coming? No, not pretty at all.

Caption
:Hey ya'll...doesn't this make a better logo for the GOP than that dumb elephant?

Pogo,

I know, that was for you, just a friendly joke......

I didn't really think you picked that username for any support of Obama........

Shiela

How hard is it to stand up to the friggin' phone company and say law breakers should be hauled into court.

I guess the later only applies if your a Mexican.

Jack

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/01/captioning-kate.html#comment-23874

Tylenol: I was going to use the word "balls" in my caption too, but I thought it would be unseemly for a newbie. LOL

To: Barack Obama
From: JohnR
Re: Tonight's Debate

Be very careful, I know you will attempt to be aggressive pointing out differences between you and Hilliary. But, Hilliary's plan is to be the nice compassionate, soft woman that wants to just "all get along." This will be her strategy and if you appear too aggresive you will come off as "badgering the woman." Just rememebr what happened in New Hampshire when she started crying and received a lot of sympathy. Be prepared to do battle but if she attempts to play the "soft woman" card change gears and show the more compassionate side of yourself. If you follow this advice you win win California!

Maxture,

I absolutely give you a wide gurth to speak what you want.

You have no earthly idea what I was talking about when I posted this morning and I understand now that Clintonites are completely oposite of The Obama Supporter ideology and THATS OK.

I may disagree with you and not understand why you are so hot under the collar, but I respect your views and the blind love you have for you candidate.

Please, by all means continue.

sure was pogo.. i luvvved that comic..

GAKaren,
Welcome. And I thought your caption was hilarious.

Why do we need to label each other?

Can't people support a specific candidate without having their intelligence called into question?

I'm really concerned that after the dust settles in August Dems will not be able to come together and vote for the nominee whether it is Hillary or Obama.

dnd: Thank you. Katherine Harris pictures write themselves actually.

AMEN GAKaren!!!

BTW,

dnd, always good to read your smiling face. ;0)

Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.

- Abraham Lincoln

There are signifcant differences in the candidates.
If you have certain priorities the issues should be the focus.

The heath care plans are an example of that.

the author of the google doc has to invite / enable you to see it

Laughing @ dog!

Max. I appreciate the joke.

I like Hillary's plan for college education financing.

Tuition at 43 k per year ... the sub-prime mortgage mess of today ...is the college loan mess of many tomorrows if we dont get something changed

dog, you know Sheila's a chef. She I am sure revels in giving folks a wide girth - she just don't spell too good. Musta been one of them Freudian slippers.

Max,

Very nice post indeed. Now if you look at this please.

We Obama and Edwards supporters are not the MSM. I myself took as a lot of time and vetting, if you wiil, to settle on my Candidate. I know that 99.9% of his supporters feel the same way.

We believe in what we have seen heard and gleened form all of his writing, his background, his spoken word.

There is always a caluculated risk when you support a candidate. We have made the same as you.

To me, what I wrote this morning is paramount. But reality speaks that I go foreward here in a careful way. I don't want to become disalutioned about Clinton when I know I might vote for her.

Thank you for understanding.

Now laughing @ pogo!

Max at 3:03 "We make a huge mistake voting with our hearts rather our heads. Our adversaries are many, our political divisions here real and the time on the clock growing shorter. Vilifying the Clintons and advancing Bamalot to crush the Republicans is not wiser than real unity, civility and a vetting of the best ideas.

Well thought. Well said.

Is good or bad news for Obama?

"Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was the most liberal senator in 2007, according to National Journal's 27th annual vote ratings. The insurgent presidential candidate shifted further to the left last year in the run-up to the primaries, after ranking as the 16th- and 10th-most-liberal during his first two years in the Senate. "

Shelia,
My apologizes. What I have no clue about is the nature of this "contact" thread...LOL. Yes, thank you for giving me wide berth to rant when these rants might be best directed at those I hear ranting all day from the other side at the evil Clintons.. So I see it is somewhat misdirected at you and giving my very recent landing, forgive the learning curve. I don't actually know any of you, so it might be very unfair to level any blasts.

If I do, then just imagine I'm blastin back the copious crap thrown at the Clintons that I feel is unjust and wrongheaded. Much of it from a derenged media. Yes, I have real issues with Obama. I think I have tried to make my case, but I just wanted others out there who support the Clintons and other more centrist Democrats that there are many who feel their pain...LOL Perhaps now is a good time to stand up and remember Democrats were known for leading this country through wars and adversity. No, the enemy is not so much ourselves as the world. I just wouldn't bring my car to a priest, I would bring it to a mechanic.

And I certainly would bring anything to Catherine Harris, except two men wearing white suits.

"And I certainly would bring anything to Catherine Harris, except two men wearing white suits. "

That was my typo sin of the day.....LOL

AND I CERTAINLY WOULDN"T BRING ANYTHING TO KATHERINE HARRIS, EXCEPT TWO MEN WEARING WHITE SUITS....is the right line

But then you all knew that anyway....

Max,

I've posted to you twice now.....ARGH!

Very quickly,

You are sweet and intelligent and thank you very much.

The anology I'd like to give you is this. I wouldn't want a priest for my Prious or a regular mechanic. I'd want someone who was up on the latest technology and who spoke the cars language too.

To use Hipster's closing excuse...."All I'm Sayin!

Re H20's Lincoln quote:

It reminds me of what a friend told me about Cub fans. He was in Chicago for a three game series between the Mets and Cubs and wearing a Mets' hat to show his colors.

On the days the Cubs lost, their fans couldn't have been nicer. "Great game" "Boy, you guys have great pitching." and similar complimentary terms. But when the Cubs finally won the final game of the series, he says their fans were totally obnoxious.

His summation: "They're great losers, but they're the worst winners I've ever seen." Old Abe had those folks pegged a long time ago.

Tom said,

But in all seriousness, I am getting tired of all this back and forth. It was fun for the first week, but now it's wearing thin.

LOL Join the club my friend,, Join the club!

the primary should take place on one day

Ok well... for those who are interested, you can reach me via My Myspace profile... http://www.myspace.com/eurotom

Good night, it's my bed time

Good Night Tom Boy!

Tom, take heart - it's the back and forth that keeps things lively here and at other more longstanding and successful blogs like FireDogLake and Kos. One of the things I've seen at many other blogs is kind of a hit and run style that is probably cathartic for the posters, but not really engaging - here, it's more engaged. Hit & run is not suffered lightly here, and we old timers like to thnk we can disagree and still respect each others' opinions, no matter how stupid we think those opinions are. People get called asses for being asses here, but don't get called asses for holding one opinion or another - unless of course they think Dumya, Cheney or those of that ilk are just swell, then they are asses and deserving of being called asses.

I think Hillary will win, perhaps after Tuesday it will be clearer. Never underestimate the Clintons and beating them down makes them all the more underdog. Hispanics cancel out the black vote and the media bashing has made many women think twice. Just look at Florida and it will counted.

Not only do I think she will pull this off and be ComeBack Kid 2, but she has the ability to be the ameoba Bill was and actually pull together agreements that can pass the Floor.

Attacks will come from abroad and the Thacher Side will ignite. The Bitch in her is a national asset as her husband can be on the global stage (Please not SCOTUS).

Obama will be carrying far more pressure on him to succeed with the divisiveness in the voting demographics a real burden. Much of this not his fault. It would have made far more sense for him to have been VP and avoid the rancor of this election. His choice and now his bed. If he does win, much of the damage will have already been done and personally, I think McCain makes him more toast than Hillary.

We shall see.

Brain: "Folks don't forget we're highly engaged. You're lucky if you can get the average voter to read a pamphlet much less take it from your hands when you are passing them out on the street. "

Sad but all too true.

And max,

May the most fortunate candidate win!

P.S. Barack, after you win the democratic election make a hard dash to the middle and center of politics. You will never win the general being a lefty liberal....

New caption:

"Coming to FOX News Channel in Spring of 2008..."The Possum and the Shrew". Weeknights after the O'Reilly Factor!

Ok Ok I just have to do the Caption.....

"Ok Kathrine....Kiss the baby and get it over with!"

I read this at David Sirota's blog

Washington State Moves Toward Public Financing

http://www.washclean.org/details1-29-08.htm

I think they should make everyone's day and treat each other like they're at a tea party.. "oh no..after YOU!".. "yes senator, no senator.." .. would drive the pundits crazy..

TY! LOL

But then the Press would just start a pissing match about who's pinky was higher, touching the cup or more curved....and what it all meant! ;0)

No , no. You can't be nice. Nice gets you walked all over. Trust me!

Wow....I'm humbled.

Volkner says,

“After 30 years in government, serving under five Presidents of both parties and chairing two non-partisan commissions on the Public Service, I have been reluctant to engage in political campaigns. The time has come to overcome that reluctance,” Mr. Volcker said in a statement today. “However, it is not the current turmoil in markets or the economic uncertainties that have impelled my decision. Rather, it is the breadth and depth of challenges that face our nation at home and abroad. Those challenges demand a new leadership and a fresh approach.”

He concluded: “It is only Barack Obama, in his person, in his ideas, in his ability to understand and to articulate both our needs and our hopes that provide the potential for strong and fresh leadership. That leadership must begin here in America but it can also restore needed confidence in our vision, our strength, and our purposes right around the world

ohh i think they can both be nice.. set it up ahead of time.. just polite each other to death! "good point, senator, I'd never thought of that. I'd like to add a thought of my own.."

You mean like those Chipmunks on the Bugs Bunny cartoons? "After you." "No , no. After you." "No...after you. I insist!" "Oh , I could never go first. After you!" "Thank you!"

Well, gotta blow. Later.

LOL @ "Wow....I'm humbled. "

Linda,

I'm sincerely tickled you think I'm amusing. Volkner is one of those. "Best of the Best:. He's know celeb, but he is a man of deep knowlege.

...That's NO Celeb. lol I need to go home. If only.

Sheila

You mean Volcker...right?

I understand that he is a man of deep knowledge. :)

It is amusing, to me, that YOU are humbled by Mr. Volcker's opinion of Obama.

...I'm just sayin' ;)

Well Like I said, my dear I AM Humbled by great opinion.

And.....no matter about my spelling. When I get very tired is gets worse than this. Good thing I've been around for a long time, because all of these people know me a love me anyway.

Nash one time ordered me to stop applogising for it because my writing was valuable and very interesting anyway....'Besides. I was among friends".

Too bad I don't have spell check.

I had to look Volcker up on Wikipedia. Didn't know him.

Sheila,

I love you creative spelling. Sometimes in the midst of a really wonderful thought, there will be this litlle quirk of a guessing game. You always have something valuable to share and are always worth reading.

I'd like to know more about this Volker.....

Carter administration......kind of remember him......

And Jamie you know me well. Thanks Girl!

Sturg, hunny bunny, better late than never. He's an interesting person who has rolled up his sleeves for this country for years without a lot of talk.

maybe dnd will show up. I think he has a pretty good understanding of the history of economic policy and he was talking about Volker pre the endorsement.

He is the one who made the tough decision to raise interest rates to 18%. It got inflation under control.
People could plan their trips to Europe again.

Sheila

Yes, I agree with nash...I find your your posts to be very interesting. :)

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/shared/minitextlo/int_paulvolcker.html

PBS interview with Volcker very friendly

the seventies are a bit hazy, you understand.......but I did vote twice for Jemma Cotta.......

Thanks Linda,

Volkers latest was the investigation on the Oil For Food Program in Iraq for the UN, I believe...at least that is the last time I heard his name.

Something to do with the Bush Administration slamming his findings. But so long ago.,

phew....
finally caught up on all the posts after getting home from lunch and shopping....

of course.... my friend and I went to a bookstore.....
Patsi..... I bought that book you've been touting: Free Lunch by David Cay Johnston.... it looks very interesting..... won't get to it for a while..... but I will get to it.....

Maxtrue..... I really like your posts...... but of course..... it WILL be the Patriots who win on Sunday.... not the Giants.... :0)

great captions everyone...... they really made me laugh....

Sheila said,

Volkers latest was the investigation on the Oil For Food Program in Iraq for the UN, I believe...at least that is the last time I heard his name.

Something to do with the Bush Administration slamming his findings. But so long ago

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/international/jan-june05/volcker_2-03.html

I was wrong. This was the investigation that found Kofi Anon's son guilty of dipping into the Fund.

Katie Harris: Just one more possum.

oh, yeah...I forgot to chime in about how funny and clever the captions are!! I would be hard put to pick a winner!!

Dan Abrams last night was exploring the clinton/media business last night.......will be nice to see that tonight......

A blast from the past. At Tuesdays Bill Clinton speech there were two hecklers...Here's a clip of Bill in his pre-presidential days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGTQZnC-6a4&feature=related

Another caption:

"Yeah some guy in a car tried to run over me once too!!"

Well Guys,

Thanks for the interesting day. I have been out of my house for three days with extreme weather and power outages.

SO my power just went back on and so now I get to go back and try to warm the place up with a New Storm coming in tonight by 12am.

So since my computer is in the upstairs, I won't be on the computer until I can't see my breath anymore.

CIO!

Max, Still I think your missing the point. Obama is Obama. That is distinctly why now, "7" of my hard right republican friends have turned coated and will be voting for him onSuper DUper Tues.

Now I have to fly. Time to go warm up the Crib!

What will republicans do on a Hillary & McCain race?
The only staunch republican I know hates the both.

H20.....yep, I have a friend with the same problem.....he's in a tight spot........He calls McCain supporters "McCainiacs"

Caption for Katherine Harris Photo:

"I think it would look better with full, thick, black mascara!"

h20...maybe they'll just stay home, which would be great for whomever is nominated by the Dems. I still think it's amazing how many more Dems than Reps turned out in Florida, especially since the GOP votes were actually live ammo. If the Dems manage this passion correctly in the general, then the real Tsunami Tuesday is going to be in November.

caption:

"Oh yeah? Sez who? They'll be in season with one call...I've got connections!"

If nominated, will John McCain choose RG for his VP?

Has someone already written a Spunk and Moxie caption for the Harris photo? I believe those are the names Jon Stewart gave to her boobs when she was running for Senate a couple years ago.

Katherine Graham Cracker,

If HRC could lay her hands on the sick and heal them, I would not vote for her. I just plain and simple don't like her. Even when I liked Bill, I did not like her. She appears too abrasive and condescending.

Obama is the only person who can unite this country AND THE WORLD since Dumbya, with Lucifer at his side, destroyed our relationships around the world.

haven't there been more democratic voters than republican in all of the primaries so far? If I were the republicans I would be paying attention to that.

I think that Obama needs more training, not by Kennedy.
I don't think the media has bothered to vet him as they have Hillary.
I think his delivery is wow, but sooo low on substance, thats what was wrong with the first Clinton presidency. Low on substance. Thats why the Health Care Plan failed, didn,t get the specifics out there and by the time they got it together they had lost their momentum.
I wonder what is happening at MSNBC ,seems they have turned their studio into a campaign office for Obama.
I used to have a lot of respect for those guys there operative word being used to.
I am new on here hope this do dattie goes thru.
THANKS

Truebeliever...you bet. It's just that in Florida, the Dems turned out something like 1.7 million voters to cast basically meaningless ballots. The Repubs bested them by 200,000 raw votes -- but when you consider what was at stake on the GOP side, it should have been more like 2 to 1 or 3 to 1 or 4 to 1.

Welcome Betty Brock,

You've picked a good night to drop in. Once the debate starts things could get rather lively in here. You are right about MSNBC bias. It isn't so much Obama favoritism as an all out attack on Hillary Clinton completely sans truth or fairness.

Dog...somebody better tell Craig to start a new thread around 8 p.m.. Otherwise, this one will be overwhelmed.

Karo.....let me get this straight......you hate "dumya and Lucifer by his side" so much that you'd welcome another republican administration rather than vote democrat if the democrat is Hillary........is that about it?

Debate on CNN 8:00 East Coast Time

some say it is Obama that is bring the passion to the election with his hope and optimism. I'm sure his sunny outlook and ability to fire the furnace helps, but I think the passion would have been there anyway. The Bush Administration is the biggest contributer to the fire in the bellies of Americans. That is what is is for me. I have waited for 8 years to see the democrats back in business. I was devastated when he was re-elected. I think the crowd the dems put up for candidates was and is awsome, but I am just as passionate about getting rid of the rightwing, backward thinking, dishonest, service for hire presence of the republicans. I was raised a republican as my uncle was a state representative in MO for years. But I just couldn't stomach their ideas and tactics anymore during the election.

Here's something not mentioned about the proposed economic stimulus package: the tax breaks for business will impact states revenues as the taxes some states assess on business are based on what the businesses pay in national tax.

So while the value of the stimulus proposal has dubious value to stimulate the economy, it will certainly impact services states provide. Doh!

Truebeliever...I love your post.

It makes me want to go write some Dick Cheney Hate Koans to pass the time between now and 8 p.m.

Photo caption:

"I got your stimulus package right 'chere"

CNN is discussing the two sides of JOhn McCain. Since he might end up the Republican nominee, what did you think of his performance last night. I found him mean and snarky, the dark side of McCain. We all know he can be all jovial and smiley but this barely controlled temper is well known.

"Obama is the only person who can unite this country AND THE WORLD since Dumbya, with Lucifer at his side...."

Ah....back to the Second Coming scenario....God All Mighty.

Obama is fine but PLEASE stop the tearful worship. You are starting to sound like Squeeky Fromm.

Well let me tell you, I am not popular in by family. They are cronies and contributers, and the all have picures on the wall shaking hands with John Ashcroft and Kit Bond. Makes me sick. I actually ask to switch places at the Thanksgiving dinner table because I could look at John Ashcroft looking down at me from the wall. I don't get invited too often anymore!

Jamie,
"We all know he can be all jovial and smiley but this barely controlled temper is well known."

Hey it worked for Bill Clinton!

To sturgeone: “Karo.....let me get this straight......you hate "dumya and Lucifer by his side" so much that you'd welcome another republican administration rather than vote democrat if the democrat is Hillary........is that about it?”

I see no difference in McCain and HRC. They both voted for everything Bush wanted and got. She tries to play the middle. She has played the middle for the last several years knowing what she was going to do…run for the presidency. That comment she made about supporting a bill and was glad it didn’t pass…just another way to play the middle and “change her mind” now that she is running. That’s both of the Clintons’ strategy. I want a different direction and most definitely a new direction. Who do you think is bringing all of these voters out who never voted before? It is definitely not her. If HRC is the candidate in the general, I will not vote for the first time in my life because I won’t vote for a Republican and I won’t vote for her. No difference!

Latest poll from realclearpolitics: (He’s gaining!!!)
CA: Clinton 43, Obama 40
GA: Obama 52, Clinton 36
MA: Clinton 43, Obama 37
AL: Obama 40, Clinton 35
MN: Clinton 40, Obama 33

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/01/captioning-kate.html#comment-24023

I am with you on this. When I hear Democrats say that they won't vote for so and so, there is NO difference between the Dem and Republican candidates it makes my skin crawl.

I honestly do not believe our country can survive another 4 years of Republican rule. Our way of life will not survive even 1 more conservative jurist appointed to the high court. We need to remember what is at stake.

TrueB...hang in there, buddy. I'm an old mule from Missouri myself, so I know exactly of which you speak. Except I was raised in a Democrat family, where we were schooled to hate Kit Bond.

GAKaren

That is exactly right. If the surpreme court gets skewed it very probably be years before it can be fixed. Just that alone could cause more damage than we can imagine.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/01/captioning-kate.html#comment-24013

Kerolenna,

If you think about your own position on Hillary, and then transfer that "opinion" to our global advisories - that is the crux of our political challenge.

When U.S.citizens admit to being closed minded to those we do not "know" or "like" - it would follow that foreign citizens would feel similarly.

Which candidate can best facilitate a global dialog that would bring our advisories, who are steadfast in their beliefs, to a level of mutual respect and understanding?

W. in Denver today for a fundraiser for Senate candidate Bob Schaffer. I wonder if the GAO has figures on what these fundraising efforts cost taxpayers.

There sure is a lot of vitriolic comment from Obama supporters today.

My adfvice..take a deep breath and relax..

Karo: With all due respect there is a HUGE difference between HRC and McCain.

McCain thinks that it is a-okay to render American citizens (and others) to countries where they will be tortured. Torture is just fine with him. He has also said we could be in Iraq for 100 years.

For all her faults, Hillary wants to bring the troops home before the next century, yes, she HAS stated this and last time I checked she doesn't approve of torture. (Other than reminding Bill of past indiscretions, I'll bet.) However, if I am wrong about that, I'm sure someone will tell me.

I'll say one thing for Hillary, she has amazing jewelry! Bill has probably bought most of it. hehe

LL
consider yourself lucky. I had to grow up and start thinking on my own before I realized how the buscuits were baked. Unfortunately my parents were the republicans who just fell in line,

OD,
"There sure is a lot of vitriolic comment from Clinton supporters today.

My adfvice..take a deep breath and relax.."

Brrr.....its cold in Michigan......{{{{{{{COLD}}}}}}}}}

True: As we know SC justices usually leave the bench dangerously close to if not feet first! That's a long time. LOL

Oregon DEM,

I'd say we OBama supporters did a fine job of being good sportsman and good discourse at the same time.

We just wanted to talk. ;0)

GAKaren,
"McCain thinks that it is a-okay to render American citizens (and others) to countries where they will be tortured."

Um, the first US president to approve extraordinary rendition was Clinton. And if you take him at his word that Hillary gave the green light to all of the major decisions, that doesn't speak too well to Sen Clinton's position on rendition...

patsi

I am glad you fired MSNBC, too. Starve them out, we all know Chris Matthews can lose some weight.

Hi Sheila...sorry to hear you flew back north to the OTHER "doesn't count" state.
Anyway, I thought today's posts were fabulous. So please know it's appreciated.

GAK
Yes indeed. And we know how powerful they are--they pick presidents!

If HRC could lay her hands on the sick and heal them, I would not vote for her. I just plain and simple don't like her. Even when I liked Bill, I did not like her. She appears too abrasive and condescending.

Obama is the only person who can unite this country AND THE WORLD since Dumbya, with Lucifer at his side, destroyed our relationships around the world.

Posted by: Karolenna | January 31, 2008 6:17 PM

In the "you can't make this up" category, Romney will hold a rally here tomorrow at a Harley Davidson dealership in Thorton.

Ron Paul will be at the Denver Convention Center.

Oh, and by the way, Max....you are starting to sound like you've been to a tent revival too. This is politics, not some sort of cult worship, whether it's Obama or Hillary.

Karolenna...But can Obama unite the Solar System? That's my question.

(I'm just making a joke going back to last night's thread, about the notion of a president "uniting" this country, let alone the world, is just a platitude. The last person to unite this country, really, was Adolph Hitler. Sorry, but them's the facts).

From the ACLU: "The current policy traces its roots to the administration of former President Bill Clinton. Following the attacks of September 11, 2001, however, what had been a limited program expanded dramatically, with some experts estimating that 150 foreign nationals have been victims of rendition in the last few years alone."

I think it is wee bit of a stretch to say that Bill was torturing people in the manner of Bush and his best buddy McCain.

Sorry ... part of my post got nuked (I'm still working out the kinks on this board) -- I was referring to the ACLU's take on extraordinary rendition.

Larsass,

Thank you so much! It was a fun day for us and we appreciate all ya'll's patience.

You LAL, I may like the warmth of FLorida, but with all the work I do down there.....its nive to come back even if I am in the middle of one of the worst winters in recent memory for the Detroit region.

Poor Corey now.....he gets dumped on and not just by Women! ;0)

But can Obama get me off of my assembly line duties at work??? Start with that and then we'll talk.

And BTW LAL,

It may have been " The Japanese" last time, but the sleeping giant has been awake for the last 8 years and we've been chained.....

I think 8 years of killer insanity is as strong a uniter as ever was.

Sheila...that's hilarious and I never really thought of that irony: Bush really has become the ULTIMATE uniter, because everyone hates him! LOL!

GAKaren,
"I think it is wee bit of a stretch to say that Bill was torturing people in the manner of Bush "

W.r.t. rendition, that is something we can never know.

If HRC could lay her hands on the sick and heal them, I would not vote for her. I just plain and simple don't like her. Even when I liked Bill, I did not like her. She appears too abrasive and condescending.

Obama is the only person who can unite this country AND THE WORLD since Dumbya, with Lucifer at his side, destroyed our relationships around the world.

Posted by: Karolenna | January 31, 2008 6:17 PM

read the threads before you post

that is what I'm saying Sheila.
I honestly would vote for someone's hound dog before I could give the presidency back to a republican. They have betrayed all of us.

Great debate line for Hillary: "Senator Obama, the country already IS united...against the policies of the last eight years of George Bush. What we need now is a president who knows specifically what to do with that unity."

Amen True Believer.....AMEN!

I voted today on Moveon.org and it was for Hillary and I filled-in the comments as to "why?" Here's why! I was on my honeymoon in Australia and New Zealand this past September right after GWB's visit. I went to 3 different cities (this is to point out that I was not in only one city or region as there as political differences by region). One woman commented to me that I must be cringing fo hear "my" President when he spoke in Australia. She told us she hoped Hillary would take the election. That sentiment was echoed by many Australians who chatted us up and once they knew we were Americans, mentioned the Clintons and hoped we would elect Hillary. I did not hear any negatives. Same story in New Zealand (where they really are not afraid of women). Before my visit, I was really on the fence about Hillary because I was told that she was unlikable by the US media. Really had a impact on me. Here I was waffling about her because I believed the lazy reporters that she was unlikable. I am ashamed I bought into their trash talk. The kind of talk that makes your fear we will get stuck with another Republican. It is so much BS. She is a capable woman and will make a fine President. Isn't that great!

Obama responds...."Thas wha I'ma sayin Hill", "You finally get it".....Just kidding Lard. ;0)

Blonde wino...you honeymooned in New Zealand?
You're not really Mel, are you?

Dnd,

Heres an adaptation for ya. Beppe Gambetta changed up the tempo and stuff of Norman Blake's Church Street Blues because he could not get the words out properly in English at the speed in which Blake sings them.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=t3cmBHPflMk

enjoy,

yo soy Horsedooty!

I wish I were Mel...love her, too.

I'm pissed that you're married. I fell in LOVE with you last night! Oh well, a Lardass can dream...

Just a few words and yes I guess you could say I hit and run.

Since I got my own blog I don't hang here as much as I use to so I comment a lot less. I do though try to keep up with whats going on over here though and I would also like to welcome all the newbies and those who have been here when I left a comment.

Max...
I understand what you mean about all your concerns about war, terror and countries that no longer like us, but after all we did invade a Sovereign Nation based on lies. It is an illegal War and Occupation.

Someone once told me that you see what you want to see. If you look for evil you will find evil. If you look for good you will find good. It all depends what you are looking for.

Sheila...
I agree about Obama. I have watched him speak and listened carefully too his words. He is indeed a generational treasure which we should all embrace. I haven't seen or heard anyone speak or move me like him since John F. Kennedy ran for the Presidency.

I believe that he can take us into the future better than Hillary ever can, however if Hilliary wins the nomination I will hold my nose and bite my tongue as I vote for her.

Got to run now. Take care and ...

God Bless.

Anon-Paranoid: Before you leave, just one exception to your point. I think everyone here would agree that Donny Osmond (who also followed JFK) spoke and moved us all, and was a generational treasure as well.

Anon-P,.

My friend. So good to see you. Been a long time for me and thanks for your comments!

this just isnt fair.. here you all are havin a party..and *i* had to be content with sneak peeks.. WOW..craig.. remember when we were a cute little band of idealists?? haha..those days are gone, my friend.. LOOKIT 'em all!!

Doots,
Beautiful. Just beautiful. Thanks.

I am getting ready to watch Blizter on CNN. He really should change his first name to LION...his face reminds me of the lion from the Wizard of Oz.

No WAY!

Michael Jackson, BEFORE Puberty! "ABC, Its easy as ONE TWO THREE!" "I say wella Do Ray Me, ABC, One two Three, Baby you and me girl!"

anon-p,
Give us a link to your blog!

Lardass...
Yes he was, but not in the league of a JFK or Obama.

I also believe that Obama is a Constitutional Scholar as well.

God Bless.

Anon-P
Throw a rock. Hit a constitutional scholar. They're not as rare as pop sensations. Sorry bud.

I still say they'd take the wind out of everyone's sails if they were overly polite tonight.. "I yield to the gentleman from Illinois" haha

"Max, Still I think your missing the point. Obama is Obama. That is distinctly why now, "7" of my hard right republican friends have turned coated and will be voting for him onSuper DUper Tues."

Well, I know several Republicans voting for Obama on SuperTuesday too. They want Obama to beat the tougher foe for them. This is just the piling on I'm talking about. I question "hardcore Republicans" suddenly voting for Obama. They consider him far more Liberal than Hillary so I suggest that was a bit of politicking. I know many LIberals who would rather vote for McCain than Obama.

Am I missing the point that you are suggesting some kind of cult of personality is the reason to vote for Obama? I am completely dumbfounded. Vote for Obama because Obama is Obama. Does he heal the sick, have superpowers? Its almost like you're describing a religious experiance or some evangelical event at Madison Square Garden.

I guess 9/11 is forgotten, political division a myth so let's vote for Elvis because he's the Dream. Some one please tell me Shelia was just kidding. How is this reasoning not "drinking the Kool Aid"? Karolenna says Bush with the Devil at his side destroyed our relations around the world and others offer similar claims. Obama taps into this divisive spin and then says he will unite us all. I'm sorry, this isn't reasonable debate, the vetting of ideas and strategy. Belichick wins because of his thought process and the abilities of his players, not the power of cult or vague promises. Amazing....just amazing and my questions are irrelevant, consequence is illusion.

Wow, what powerful ideas.......I BELEIVE...not

is there a drinking game tonight?

Ty,
"I still say they'd take the wind out of everyone's sails if they were overly polite tonight.. "

LOL! I want Obama to put the "snub" thing to rest by planting a big kiss on Hillary.

no tongue

Max. See above post. You need to get on board the Donny Osmond train.

Unsolicited Advice:

Everyone enjoy the debate, discuss the issues presented, and avoid personal attacks aimed at the two candidates; one of which will be running for the White House in November..

that's it, dnd... hugs and kisses.. "see? we dont hate each other".. :)

Ty,
"is there a drinking game tonight?"

Every time they say "change" do a shot. I'll probably be face down on the keyboard within the first 10 minutes.

lol..donny osmond train... 'and they calllllled it puppy luvvvvv" (altho.. i'm chagrined to admit.. i remember the original.. )

dnd...
I should be in Craig's blogroll, but here you go.

http://america-weeps.blogspot.com/

I'm very anti Der Fuhrer Adolph Bush and Dark Lord Dick Heinrich Himmler Cheney.

God Bless.

PS: I would advise watching the debate and also follow the Primaries next Tuesday. Obama brings out the young and I remember when I was their age how inspired I was by JFK and I never regretted how I felt.

I have only had one year where I did not vote and I felt disenfranchised that year. He inspired me to make sure I voted once I was old enough to vote and JFK did his best to make Our Country a better one than what it was when he took office.

Again...God Bless.

For those of us teetotalers...every time Hillary says "I'm a man trapped inside a woman's body", do a shot.

Max,

My Friends, all told me they were desparate for change. They HATED all the Republican candidates and they don't want the Clinton team.

That is too bad, really.

....channeling.............

One last thought.

Keith is doing a special comment tonight. Better turn on your second tv to watch it.

God Bless.

Karolenno 6:17

dogs eye

7:21 "If HRC"

Oregon Democrat

That's no fun :(

Let's all have fun. Both of our candidates are great people. Whatever you think about who would do a better job (Go Hillary), we can be nice to each other. It's only two hours without insults. Go find some music on You Tube to play if things get tense.

A-Paranoid...if you post one more "one last thought" item before you "split", you'll go down as the most passive aggressive blogger on this thread.

Either stay and stand up for your opinions, or leave without comment.

Amen Jamie....{Go Barack} ;0)

Laaaaaadieeeeeees and Gentlemen. Are you reaaaaaaady to rumble?

NEW THREAD for Democratic Debate Blogging

Yeah the morning load talks about what an transformational candidate Obama is and when Craig asked if he would vote for him....he said no.

It is clear from their actions the Republicans would rather go down to defeat then work in a bi partisan fashion.

Change is electing a dem this time instead of republican. BO will not really be much different from HRC or will he? Let's watch and see...

Boy its hard getting out of here.

I think that the Republican Debate Moderators where very disrespectful to both Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee. They too are candidates and deserve the same respect that Romney and McCane received.

God Bless.

woohoo!!!!

"Someone once told me that you see what you want to see. If you look for evil you will find evil. If you look for good you will find good. It all depends what you are looking for."

Sure, the threats I posted are really good thins advocated by good people and the real evil in the world resides in the White House. Such views do trail many who believe in Obama......

Hillary has made clear she does not accept that spin. Period. It is not a matter of belief, it is a matter of fact. There's a big difference. Jefferson thought the French Revolution was a fantastic prospect......until he observed the painful reality.

You guys.....Craig posted NEW THREAD about 6 posts ago.....I'm waiting ;0)

how do you do a new thread?

LardassLiberal, Your comment (posted at 7:10 pm): “(I'm just making a joke going back to last night's thread, about the notion of a president "uniting" this country, let alone the world, is just a platitude. The last person to unite this country, really, was Adolph Hitler. Sorry, but them's the facts).” is incorrect. This is “them’s the fact” for YOU: The last person to unite this country was Osama BinLaden. And, what happened with that unification? It was squandered by none other the current the current dictator in chief, GWB. We had complete unity after 9/11. Can anyone on here dispute that? And, what did he do with all that power? He went to war? And, who voted for that war? Well, I don’t need to tell you that even though she now says she thought it was this and for that and who knows what!!!

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