You can tell that a politician has a lot of baggage when it takes nearly an hour to sort through it.
On NBC’s “Meet the Press” today, Rudy Giuliani faced a relentless grilling from host Tim Russert on the former New York mayor’s spotty record regarding everything from his shady business clients to official perks for his mistress.
The sheer volume of political scandals from Giuliani’s past might overwhelm anyone else, but the Republican presidential contender avoided catastrophe by greeting Russert’s tough questions with a disarming mixture of humor and humility. A few times he sheepishly admitted mistakes.
Although some of Giuliani’s answers stretched the limits of credulity, he at least avoided coming across as angry or overly defensive – which would have made him seem wounded.
Still, given the growing number of viable options in the Republican race (Mike Huckabee’s rise, a possible John McCain comeback, and the continuing threat from Mitt Romney), you have to think that Giuliani’s session with Russert will trouble primary voters who are looking for a bullet-proof nominee to run against the Democrats.
Going into the interview, Giuliani was already losing his once-solid claim as the GOP’s frontrunner in national polls. He might carry his baggage with a smile and heartfelt apologies, but it is still weighing him down.

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Woo Woo
Carry over from last thread
Craig,
Will you be going to Nevada for their election?
Can we do Vegas again?
Love at the Mirage anyone?
Posted by: Jamie | December 9, 2007 1:49 PM
What might have upset him more was if Republicans had a reaction similar to mine: "After Bush, I couldn't take four more years of explanations" just before they changed the channel.
Posted by: Jamie | December 9, 2007 1:51 PM
waiting to see what unfolds in IA and NH before plotting the next course, Jamie. But would be great if Nevada worth going to, another Vegas fest would be a blast
Posted by: Craig Crawford
| December 9, 2007 1:52 PM
NBC continues to prop up the Plunger.
He was prepared for every question, It would have been pathetic if he had not done a good job.
How many times now has he had to say, I made a mistake.
The media decided he was the one...and now that the public is paying attention the media is once again wrong.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 9, 2007 2:07 PM
Well obviously we need to keep things very undecided until Nevada on January 19 so you all can be tempted by
http://mirage.com/entertainment/entertainment_cirque_du_soleil.aspx
Posted by: Jamie | December 9, 2007 2:13 PM
dog,
Good question.
BTW, you can see mtp online at
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/
Rudy has adopted the Hillary cackle when asked tough questions that he doesn't want to answer.
Posted by: dnd | December 9, 2007 2:18 PM
Rush transcripts from Meet the Press…
“Tim, you see what happened was… excuse me… I have to take this…”
“Hello dear… yes… talking to him now… I see… well have that nice Sgt. O’Malley take Poopsie outside… I know dear… we don’t need anymore stains to clean up…”
I’m sorry Tim, what was your question again?”
Posted by: MadMustard
| December 9, 2007 2:24 PM
Rudee
"I am not a crook!"
not in the breaking and entering definition but in the misuse of public funds definition.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 9, 2007 2:39 PM
Mad,
LMAO!
Posted by: dnd | December 9, 2007 2:46 PM
a crook is a crook
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 9, 2007 2:58 PM
dog,
You forgot the loving, tolerant, compassionate congregation at Westboro Baptist Church:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church
Posted by: dnd | December 9, 2007 3:54 PM
What I find interesting is that the Phelps group can be legally limited without contest by exactly the same standard as that set for protestors at abortion clinics of 36 feet. Several city councils are talking about setting local limits near funerals of 100 to 300 feet that might be contested.
Free speech cannot get so close that it becomes assault,
Posted by: Jamie | December 9, 2007 4:29 PM
Out here there a number of biker groups that protect the vets funerals from these kooks. Law enforcement looks the other way when these nut jobs get in the bikers face, and suffer the consequences. ;-)
Posted by: dnd | December 9, 2007 4:42 PM
hey renee,
if you are not watching the NE Pats right now then you should be. the night game is Indy and Balt.
yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: horsedooty | December 9, 2007 4:55 PM
Okay music people. As part of the promotion for tonight's 1968 on the History Channel, they have a trivia test on the music of 1968
http://www.powerof68.com/music/
Posted by: Jamie | December 9, 2007 5:34 PM
Doots,
The Pats are not an issue. In the AFC west, SD won today so it's a must win for the Broncos over the Chiefs. It's gonna be chilly in the second half, as the temp is around 25 at halftime.
Posted by: dnd | December 9, 2007 5:43 PM
dog,
"Don't think there will be an audience for nostalgia shows about our current era. More like, what was WRONG with those people?"
That's what I thought when HHH lost to Nixon.
ps. There was no Internet in 1968. It's precursor, ARPANET, didn't start until 1969. This was the best investment the DoD ever made in technology.
Posted by: dnd | December 9, 2007 6:39 PM
Dooots........i noticed today that if you put out a pan of water for a mockingbird, they WILL crap in it.......and then drink from it......i conclude that birds are nuts........
Posted by: sturgeone | December 9, 2007 7:53 PM
I never take a bath, i hate washing my face in water I've been sitting in.......
----Frank Zappa
Posted by: sturgeone | December 9, 2007 8:11 PM
What's the primary date for Nevada?
Jamie, judging by your Cirque post, it's 1/19?
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| December 9, 2007 9:22 PM
Somehow I think Rudy IS a crook . And I don't like his affiliations through his corporate companies.
Saw "Cube 2: Hypercube" last night. Caught my attention for imagination & creativity. There's "Cube" and "Cube Zero" yet to be seen.
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| December 9, 2007 9:26 PM
I saw Forest Gump again tonight........last time i saw it was in the waiting room at Chelsea Studios when me liddle datta did her audition for NYU.....whadda movie.....
Posted by: sturgeone | December 9, 2007 9:29 PM
I would definitely see POTO = Phantom of the Opera @ The Venetian.
*sigh*
But it's never same since I saw Gerry Butler in the film version.
*sigh*
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| December 9, 2007 9:29 PM
and now she's viewing the splendors of Florence......amazing........you feed em they grow.
Posted by: sturgeone | December 9, 2007 9:32 PM
So today I went to the Obama event in South Carolina - my 4 yr old son and I were two of the nearly 30,000 to show up and listen to what Barack Obama had to say. It was the most beautiful sight I had seen in South Carolina since I moved here 12 years ago.
Regardless your candidate, it has to be a good sign for America if a man can inspire this many people in a state often seen as apathetic to politics.
I think the game is just getting started!
Posted by: wonamini
| December 9, 2007 9:47 PM
"Regardless your candidate, it has to be a good sign for America if a man can inspire this many people in a state often seen as apathetic to politics."
Sorry wonamini, that's not the way I saw it. I am not so sure how much of the crowd went to see Obama or whether he inspires that many people to be interested or involved in politics. Too much of leap, IMO.
Posted by: zoey
| December 9, 2007 10:02 PM
wonamini, good info.
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| December 9, 2007 10:04 PM
zoey, interesting info.
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| December 9, 2007 10:04 PM
Wona......what did he say?
Posted by: sturgeone | December 9, 2007 10:05 PM
Well I can not account for the entire 30,000 being "legitimate" involved voters according to your standards. But I will say the entire crowd around me were fired up and ready to go!
In a small state like South Carolina, Democratic events are like old home week, seeing lots of faces that I haven't seen since the Boston Convention in 2004 or Clyburn's Fish Fry earlier this year. The energy can not be described!
People were their with their teenagers, with their babies. People of all ages of all colors of all professions of all walks of life. Arrested Development opened. There were a few words from Obama staffers - we participated in a World's Record - the largest phone banking ever! That was pretty clever I thought. Then Michelle Obama came out - she was wonderful and kept it short - Oprah came out was wonderful - very positive and kept it pretty short and then Obama came out. He talked about standing up and taking action. He talked about if he listened to people in the past telling him to just wait a little and not take action yet he would not be where he is today. Then he asked us - if someone asked you to wait and not take action where would you be today.
It's about action! Standing up and taking action.
He is not the candidate of everyone's choice - I am just reporting that he is my choice and I stood up and I am fired up and ready to go. Well actually I have been canvassing for the man since he did his first national canvassing event back in June - way before anyone was engaging the grassroots.
Posted by: wonamini
| December 9, 2007 10:22 PM
Wonamini,
So what you are saying is you were inspired. That makes more sense.
Posted by: zoey
| December 9, 2007 10:26 PM
I am saying that I saw a lot more people being engaged in what Obama was saying - The people surrounding me were up on their feet more with Obama then Oprah - the crowd was chanting Obama not Oprah. I think people can easily say that the people showed up to see Oprah - but that crowd was fired up and they were responding to Obama.
I am inspired more by Obama's early effort in grassroots organizing. I have seen him at smaller venues - actually at a smaller venue in my town - it was the biggest political event my Congressman (24 years in Congress) had ever seen in our county since he had been in Congress. And there was no special guest at that event.
I think it is great that people are underestimating his support - January 26th will be that much sweeter!
Posted by: wonamini
| December 9, 2007 10:33 PM
When John Edwards brings in a well-known musician, actor, etc. he is still the main attraction. He uses this type of platform to his best advantage. The celebrity is more like John's back-up singer. That's why I would like to go see him and Tim. They will make a nice team in a town hall meeting.
Posted by: zoey
| December 9, 2007 10:41 PM
Dex...Heads up! "Journeyman" will be on tomorrow night!
Posted by: harborwoman | December 9, 2007 11:41 PM
I missed 1968 in the USA. I was in Frankfurt, Germany (USAF) and I got to read about all of that.
yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: horsedooty | December 9, 2007 11:44 PM
dooty,
I was in Giessen (sp?) for the 4th of July 1968 visiting my sister. Her husband was in the Army. I flew into Frankfurt. It was a great vacation.
Posted by: zoey
| December 10, 2007 12:12 AM
Dex,
I missed the beginning of the Browns' game because I was at the Siena/Iona b-ball game. Saw probably the last 7 minutes of the first half and the rest of the game with the Albany Chapter of the Browns' Backers.
I didn't notice the empty seats until later in the game, but one of the guys watching with me said empty seats are not uncommon for Jets games in the Meadowlands. Lousy weather and losing seasons will do that to you. Also, they built their fan base playing at Shea Stadium. New Jersey is a world away for some of those folks.
I guess those who can afford season tickets still keep buying them, while they wait for the second coming of Joe Namath, but then put individual game tickets up for sale on Stub Hub or similar venues.
I won a friendly bet on the game with a Jet fan, who's a former co-worker. I've got two six-packs of assorted beers from the Cooperstown Brewing Company on their way to me. I'm usually a Coors Light guy, but how can an umpire go wrong drinking Old Slugger Pale Ale, Benchwarmer Porter, or Strikeout Stout? (As long as it's in moderation.)
Posted by: EdVB
| December 10, 2007 12:23 AM
Interesting beers, it sounds like, Ed.
My beverage of choice is usually plain tap water, but with the nachos I am having in five minutes I will pop a Vernor's Diet Ginger Ale.
I guess when you have the best tasting water in the world bubbling up from artesian wells two blocks away (our city's water supply), it's a great benefit to living here.
Yeah, at game's end that stadium was empty...for the last few possessions. I guess Romeo keeps his job.
I taped it earlier in my den but I think I will just watch the 1968 show now on the big TV in the living room...repeat showing starts now.
Posted by: Dexter
| December 10, 2007 12:58 AM
ART BREAK...Ira Cohen, one of the great artists of our time, from NYC, has a show going on in London now:
http://www.octobergallery.co.uk/exhibitions/2007coh/index.shtml
Posted by: Dexter
| December 10, 2007 3:19 AM
You sure didn't miss anything good by being out of the country in 1968, dooty. What a horrible year. My then-husband and I were in Germany the next two years, '69 and '70. When we got back I went through a culture shock.
Posted by: Patsi | December 10, 2007 5:44 AM
very interesting, but I don't agree with you
Idetrorce
Posted by: Idetrorce | December 15, 2007 9:48 AM
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